259. Jellyfish UAP, Face Peelers, & The Dead Internet

0:38 Welcome back to the Infinite Rabbit Hole. My name is Jeremy, and today we're going to dive into the first of a new segment called Declassified. Came up with that 1 today. Declassified. That's right, man. That's right. Oh man. It's going to be these two people formats and it's going to be all, all cool topics and and such. It's going to be great. Great. How you been, man? Today. Terrible. Oh, you actually the same, Yeah. I've had the double dragon all day. And for those that never served in the Navy, would you like to explain what that double dragon is? Fire shooting out of both sides, I suppose that's right. It's it's sort of a tradition in the Navy when you when you go on a ship, you start your deployment, you kind of just you kind of just get the the double dragon. Yeah.

1:34 Oh yeah. Says Oh my Lord. Yep. So yeah, I've been doing absolutely trash, but I haven't been coughing. So I was like, all right, so that's why I haven't been on any episodes. It's because I've been sick. And so try not to be hacking and coughing into the microphone. It's all good, man. I figured out a way to do solo episodes and I've just been knocking it out, coming out with an episode every two or three days. My goal for this year is to put out more content. There you go. But I could tell you what's really pissing me off. Glad to be back, Spectrum what's been? Pissing off. What's really pissing me off is when I put, you know, 10-12 hours into a script between two or three days and some dumb fuck on YouTube wants to leave a comment about how my script is.

2:20 AII fucking hate that shit. Why would they say that? I have no idea, but like you want sources? I'll give you sources. I got you. It's easy, easy day. Just ask. I mean I I've been doing this for over 5 years. There's no AI going into my script. OK, so knock that shit off. Tell you what, doing this since longer than AI existed. It's it's better than someone blasting you in the comments on YouTube because you cut them off or you pass them while they were driving slower than the speed limit because it was raining out. So I mean, telling you that you know how to drive and stuff. So I mean, I guess, you know, you take you get some from no matter what you do, I suppose. So just cry about it.

3:09 It's amazing. I was saying there's there's no way around it. So you're just going to have to cry. Well, I don't know what happened to that guy's comment because I, I commented it back. I was like, hey, man, I got I got sources if you want them. And then his comment disappeared. I don't think he was, I don't think he was ready for for a reply. Yeah, I suppose not is what it is. Anyways, so this is going to be very similar to the episodes that we've been doing lately where we've been doing the Fringe news declassified segments are going to be very similar in format, but it's more two people friendly. And instead of covering 5 topics, we'll cover 3. And we won't narrow down the topics to just news or current events.

3:53 We're going to talk about things that I've already had research done on. Jake texted me this morning and was like, hey man, you want to do an episode today? And I was like, shit, let me see what I can put together. So I grabbed 3 scripts from three different topics that I've done research on in the last, you know, five years or so that we just never got to here on Infinite Rabbit Hole. I had something that was just too short. No, they're not fucking AI. And then one back on that first say one person specifically goes, man, that intro was AI. And I'm like, man, I've been doing intros for my episodes since day one. You need to shut up. What dictates whether or not just something is written by?

4:37 AII have no idea. I guess. Well, that would be my mention to them. Maybe it sounds good. It sounds good, so it can't be written by a person. Actually, Whitney's been dealing with this for college, where her teacher is going through a website that detects whether or not something was written by AI, and she literally can't write a paper that sounds like she wrote it. She has to write it in a way that sounds like she's a freaking high schooler or a middle schooler writing a presentation. Otherwise AI or the the software will say that it's 95% likely that it's AI. Uh oh, Why are we frozen?

5:24 Stop yelling at me, I'm sensitive. Well, stop being sensitive. No. All right, you ready to get into my script for the night? Yeah, let's go. All right, I've got a nice powerful intro to get everybody hooked. We are living in an era of rapid declassification, yet the picture of our reality remains fragmented, obscured by a deliberate fog of war that spans both the physical and the digital realms. The maps we use to navigate our world are outdated. We are clinging to a geography of the safe and the known, while the world around us is being rewritten by forces we are only just beginning to admit exist. Tonight, we are going to burn the old maps.

6:06 We're going to chart a course through the prohibited airspace of active war zones where anomalies mock our physics. Hack into the static of a dying digital world where humanity is becoming the minority and trek deep into the Peruvian Amazon where a modern day alien siege has terrified an indigenous tribe into taking up arms. We have three massive files to declassify tonight, and each one peels back a layer of the illusion we call daily life. We will start with the invisible Sentinels drifting over our most secure military installations, Entities that defy gravity, aerodynamics and thermodynamics.

6:47 Then we are heading down to the Laredo region of Peru to investigate the terrifying face peeler attacks of 2023 where villagers fought back against 7 foot tall armored hovered entities that the government absurdly tried to dismissed as illegal gold miners with jet packs. And finally, we'll return to the Black Mirror in your pocket to ask a question that haunts the corridors of Silicon Valley. Is the human era of the Internet over? And are we now just ghost haunting a machine run by the dead? But before we step off the ledge and descend a a vital transmission for our fellow travelers, if you want to unlock the files we cannot air on the main feed, the ones that dig too deep for the algorithms to ignore, join us on patreon.com/infinite Rabbit Hole. This week, I released an exclusive unredacted deep dive into the Havana Syndrome, including a new and improved discovery, or new and important discovery regarding the source of the illness and the infrasound that seems to be causing it.

7:53 If you want to watch the madness unfold in real time, catch us every time we record live at twitch.tv/infinite Rabbit Hole. Like, follow, subscribe. Do the things that help us keep the signal strong against the static. All right, welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole. The face peelers, the. Face peelers, yes. There's no, there's no way that you wrote that. That was definitely AI. That was way too sophisticated. I wanted to make that joke. I had no shit was going to was going to be like, all right, now that my AI written intro is done, we can get to the real stuff.

8:35 Fucking hate that I I wrote that. That sounds that sounds nuts. The face peelers. All right, I'm down for you. Let's go all. Right, let's do this. All right, For our opening topic tonight, travellers, we are turning our eyes back to the Middle East for a topic we have covered before, but we're going to do it a little bit more in depth. But we aren't looking for insurgents, convoys, or geopolitical maneuvering. We are looking for a ghost that haunted a United States joint operations base in Iraq one night in October of 2018. The footage is grainy, shot in the monochromatic Grays and blacks of a high tech thermograph weapon system, like an L3 Westcam sensor sweep, the kind used to target enemies from miles away with surgical precision. The video was leaked by investigative of investigative filmmaker and ufologist Jeremy Corbell in January of 2024, blowing the lid off a secret that intelligence agencies has kept buried for six years.

9:38 On the screen, drifting with a terrifying stiff silence is an object that should not exist. It does not have wings. It does not have a fuselage. It does not have a tail rotor. It looks for all the world like a jellyfish. This entity, now colloquially known as Jellyfish UAP, floated over the base with dangling, rigid tentacles. It did not sway in the wind. It did not bank or turn like a biological creature or an aircraft. Is is simply translated through space, moving at a constant, deliberate speed, ignoring the laws of aerodynamics. But the most chilling part wasn't its shape, it was its thermal signature. On thermal cameras, objects are usually defined by their heat. An engine is hot, it glows black or white depending on the polarity setting.

10:29 Cold metal is the opposite. This thing was shifting. As the intelligence officers watched in disbelief, the entity changed its thermal reflectivity. It went from black, indicating heat, to white indicating extreme cold and back again. It was as if the object was struggling to maintain its presence and our layer of reality, phasing in and out of the thermodynamics laws that govern our universe. It was not just camouflage, it was rewriting its own physics in real time. The leak footage tracks the entity as it drifts over the perimeter fence, completely ignoring the heavily armed soldiers and the dogs below who seem oblivious to to its presence. It drifts over the barracks, a silent observer. It then descends toward a body of water presumed to be lake. I'm going to butcher this haba habania habania and does the impossible.

11:23 Impossible. If you drop a drone into a lake, it crashes. If a bird dies, it splashes. This thing sliced into the water without a ripple. It didn't float, it didn't sink. It simply transitioned to mediums. It remained submerged for 17 minutes, then just as abruptly shot out of the water at a 45° angle, accelerating into the sky at speeds that defy our understanding of propulsion. No Sonic boom, no water displacement, no heat exhaust. Just a silent phantom leaving the stage. This was not a one off event. Michael Sieptia, a former United States Marine intelligence analyst, has come forward to state that these atmospheric biologicals, quote UN quote, are being seen everywhere.

12:05 They have been spotted over Afghanistan. They have been seen near nuclear silos. They look organic, like deep sea creatures swimming through the ocean of an air above our heads. The skeptics and the debunkers who are desperate to keep the world small and understandable screamed bird poop on the lens or smudge. But you do not track a smudge on a multimillion dollar weapon system. You do not watch a smudge change temperature. You do not watch a smudge or piece of bird shit submerge into a lake and fly out at Mach speed. This footage forces us to confront a possibility that is for stranger than little green men in metal saucers. What if the sky is not empty?

12:46 What if it is an ecosystem and what if the things living in it are finally starting to look back at us? This raises disturbing questions about the national security, about national security. If a jellyfish like entity can drift over a secure base, invisible to the naked eye and only visible on thermal, what else is floating above? Our heads right now are being watched by a by a biology that exists in a spectrum of light that we cannot see. What do you think there, Jacob? I remember that. I remember seeing that and that's exactly what I thought was it was bird crap on the lens at 1st.

13:27 And you know what it really looked to me like was, was it Battle LA, the movie where they had those like flying machines and stuff like that? It was like a weird alien thing. Maybe that was maybe they kind of pulled from that. I can't recall when that movie came out versus when the the jellyfish UAP was seen. But regardless, I'm starting to learn more towards that. It's just like in the realm of like the flying rods or the skyfish that it's like they say the air acts like water. Like what if it's what if we can't get out of the atmosphere? Like NASA's completely full of crap. Just entertain it for a second.

14:11 NASA's completely full of crap. We. Can't. Actually, yeah, we can't actually get past the was it the Van Allen radiation belt something or another? Yeah, look at you. Good boy. Yeah. Proud of you. I'd listen to things and we, I heard Joe Rogan go on a spiel about this for like 2 hours straight. Yeah, but let's see, where was I going with that anyway? So NASA's making it up. What if there is a layer of water or something that sits over the earth that we can't penetrate, and there's an ecosystem full of what we would consider flying things, but there's actually swimming? Or that there are other types of flying creatures, I guess, that go through the air but never touched ground, like the rods. Yeah.

15:12 And they're just so uncommon and so elusive that there's really no way to actually study them until one of them, like, flies through a camera somewhere. And that's kind of the the picture I was painting here too, right? I want to take a second to kind of educate people on a brilliant book that was written a long time ago by a brilliant biologist turned cryptozoologist named Ivan T Sanderson. Now it's called Uninvited Visitors, and this book was written in 1967. And the whole concept of this book is a biologist looking at UFOs and what's modernly referred to as sky beasts, which is the concept that you're basically talking about rods, right?

16:01 There's even a a big argument by a lot of people that the standard flying saucer or light in the sky could be one of these biological entities. And we saw Hollywood kind of take that in stride with the with the movie that got released a few years ago by Jordan Peele. Nope. Yeah. And which I do when I love that movie like I was so. Scary. I love that movie. That movie is great. Yes, I've seen a movie and I love that he he made it a biological entity. Sorry if I spoiled that for anybody, but if you're a fan of UFOs and you like the idea that UFOs can be biological in any way, shape or form, go check out Nope. Great movie, literally I don't watch movies. In case you're new to the Infinite Rival. I just don't.

16:55 But I saw that one and I've seen it like 4 Times Now because it's that good. I really do enjoy it. So I do have a discussion point to talk about. Basically this takes the form of the questions that we were doing last time, Jake. So the jellyfish video seems to bridge the gap between the nuts and bolts craft in something more paranormal or interdimensional. It looks organic, yet it moves with robotic precision. Do you think we are dealing with a biological entity native to our atmosphere, basically a Cryptid of the sky? Or is this advanced surveillance technology disguised as organic matter? And secondly, why does the temperature fluctuation matter so much in these sightings?

17:43 Well, geez, it could be both. I mean, the Sky's the limit as far as possibilities is for what can exist on this planet because we have plenty of very strange animals that shouldn't be. And yet they are, right? Or they have unique characteristics. Like our hangar Bay at work here in the summer months gets just inundated with bats. You know, they land all over the ground and all that sort of stuff. Well, it's not that bad, but they'll land every once in a while. And I'm sitting here, I'm looking at this bat and I like, like, I want to pick it up. But it was pretty feisty and like, move it because it was literally just, it was between the slab of the concrete outside and the metal wall of the hangar Bay. And it was just stuck in this little crack. And I kind of wanted to get up in there and like, pull it out and, and move it because it's like, this thing's going to die right here, right?

18:45 And I could hear it clicking at me. It's like, and I was like, what is this crackling click sound? And then I Googled it and I was like, oh, that's the echolocation. It sounds so weird, right? And it's very strange that they would have this, you know, I don't know what you want to call it evolutionary sort of adaptation or whatever it is, but or, you know, on my side that God made them that way. But regardless, it's so strange that they fly around and they just pop and it just echoes off of everything, right? And so I mean, if you can have something that's as common as a bat that has such a very strange way of, of navigation, why couldn't you then take other things like flying rods or was a skyfish and just give them a unique characteristic like they don't land or, you know, or you, we haven't ever observed them land or, you know, why couldn't there be a type of animal that can change the heat that it's giving off? And then on the other side, sure, maybe it's an advanced biomechanical form of surveillance. Cause again, Sky's the limit.

20:12 Who knows what's being developed right now, right? And that. I think it's kind of crappy to kind of be in that, in that realm of like, who knows, you know, Oh well, but it's like, because I would want to know one way or the other because it's interesting, right? And then if it's the latter where it's a piece of tech, then we're likely never going to get the answers for that. If it was the former of a creature, well there's been 1 recorded so that we know of, so still probably not going to get the answers to that too. Well, I'm curious if the heat signature changes and fluctuations has to do with active cloaking. That's I went more here, I'll read off what I my thoughts on this is this is the part I actually had to write up today. This is where the rubber meets the road, folks. We have to stop thinking about this in terms of Star Wars technology.

21:20 Battle ships with rivets and thrusters. The jellyfish UAP pushes us toward the interdimensional hypothesis. If you look at the work of researchers like Jacques Valet, he has argued for decades that these phenomena are not travelers from another planet, but entities that coexist with us in a reality that overlays our own. The temperature fluctuation is the smoking gun for this theory. When an object moves between dimensions or density layers, it requires a massive exchange of energy and physics. We know that energy exchange often manifests as heat transfer. The fact that this entity is shifting from hot to cold suggests it is not just cloaking itself from a camera, it is phase shifting its vibrational frequency.

22:02 It is literally tuning itself out of our reality and into another. It appears cold because it is absorbing heat from our environment to powerless transit transition, or hot as it bleeds energy back into our space. It is not a machine malfunctioning, it is a door opening and closing. Furthermore, the biological appearance supports the idea of non human intelligence that isn't necessarily technological. In a way we understand it. We assume aliens build ships because we build ships. But what if a civilization or a life form evolved a billion years ahead of us? They wouldn't build a Volvo to drive to earth. They would engineer biological avatars or projector consciousness into a semi physical form. This jellyfish might be a drone, yes, but a drone made of engineered biological matter meet and energy designed to interact with our atmosphere without leaving a carbon footprint or a crash retrieval site. It is the ultimate stealth because it looks like nature. Even if even if it is a nature we do not recognize. So I went, I went the interdimensional route or the possible avatar being used by an alien technology, whether it be from far away off in space, which I feel like is the more unlikely of the two options, or an interdimensional intelligence, something that we've talked about heavily recently in the show over the last couple episodes. What are your thoughts on that?

23:33 I don't think that a Cyborg I guess would be out of the realm of possibilities of something that could be used experimentally to actively surveil stuff or as a weapon. I'm trying to rack my brain as far as like what I've heard of in the past, and the only thing that can come to mind is, well, obviously that birds are government drones. But I mean, everyone knows that. Not the country birds, the city birds, right? But aside from that, I mean, there's some weird stuff going on in the world, like making meat out of basically 3D printing meat.

24:22 If that's going on, I don't know if it would be too crazy for the idea that science scientists are experimenting with taking actual animals or bits and pieces of animals and connecting them with, you know, some sort of a robotic nature in order to make a better, more effective weapon system or surveillance technology. Although I do agree with you, obviously, we've talked about it ad nauseam about, you know, when I say angels, demons, things like that.

25:05 You could definitely say on a different plane of existence that parallels ours, that's just not visible to us, you know, unless the veil is opened or whatever that looks like right, under unique circumstances or I don't know, a gateway. So I don't know. Well, I guess I just want to give a shit. I guess that if I were to put myself in a in a boat and say which one would be more worrisome, it would be the interdimensional beings coming through versus something you could, you know, shoot down with a missile, you know? Yeah, it's AI feel like that's in my opinion, right. I've gone on record multiple times talking about how I I feel like the interdimensional aspect of things would probably be the more likely.

26:06 Sorry, I'm kind of sidetracked here. I'm, I'm making edits to my next script here as as I'm talking, but let's go ahead and put this it's topic to bed. I just want to give one more shout out to the book Uninvited Visitors by Ivan T Sanderson. It's very difficult to find now, but if you can, I highly recommend it. Ivan T Sanderson, like I said, was a biologist turned cryptozoologist that looked at UF OS as if they were biological beings. Highly recommend it. And then I want to give a shout out to, I can't see the full name, but I can see Jimmy. Jimmy on YouTube said you guys don't get anywhere near the Subs or views that the quality of that, the quality of your research and content deserves.

26:48 Guys, keep on trucking. Hey, I appreciate that, Jimmy, really do. Appreciate that too. That's super trust me. The the amount of money, time and divorce threats I've had for my wife over over all this, it means a lot to hear that. I appreciate it. Jake ready ready to hear about the case dealers. I found that book. Yeah, right. I found that book on Amazon. You can actually buy it, either paperback or hardcover. Hardcovers, 3994. You found uninvited visitors. Yeah, so I'm. I'm going to buy it because it sounds interesting to me. Sounds pretty much right up my alley. This. Not a sponsor but this 1919 freaking root beer is amazing. Oh, it is, it is.

27:30 It's delicious. Apparently they sell kegs of it too. They do the little mini cakes, they're cool. Yeah, all. Right. You ready? Yeah. All right. For our second topic, we are leaving the arid deserts of the Middle East and hacking our way through the dense, humid jungle of the Peruvian Amazon. In the summer of 2023, something landed in the Laredo region, terrorizing the Ikitu indigenous people in the remote village of San Antonio DE. I'm going to butcher this Pintuyaku. This story sounds like it was ripped from a 1950s pulp sci-fi novel, but the fear in the voices of the witnesses were very, very real. It started in late July of 2023.

28:15 Villagers began reporting strange yellow eyed figures lurking in the dark canopy. These were not Jaguars. These were not rival tribes. OK, it's going to be full of things. I'm going to butcher Hiro Ryati. Divala Heyro Reyati Divola, the community leader of the Ikidu people, went on record with frantic pleas to the Peruvian military. He described entities that stood 7 feet tall. They had large, bulbous heads, which the logos described as long heads, and wore what looked like silver armored suits. But the most terrifying detail?

28:56 They hovered. Davila claimed their shoes are round shaped, which they used to float. He described them hovering about 1m off the ground, moving with a silence that unnerved the hunters who know every sound of the rainforest. The attacks were brutal and direct. On the night of July 11th, a 15 year old girl was reportedly grabbed from behind by one of these figures. The entity slashed her neck, leaving deep cuts, presumably attempting to drag her away. Villagers rushed to her aid, screaming and firing weapons. The attacker did not run, it ascended vertically and vanished into the canopy. The girl survived, but the trauma sent shock waves through the community. The Ikidu people are not easily scared.

29:37 They are skilled hunters. They know the jungle better than anyone on Earth. De Via stated clearly quote. I shot one of them twice and he didn't fall. He rose up and disappeared. We are frightened. The shotgun pellets reportedly struck the silver armor with a metallic clang, but did absolutely no damage to the entity inside. The panic was absolute. The villagers called them Los Pelacaras, the face peelers, referring to an old Andean legend of white men who wander the remote regions to steal the faces and fat of the indigenous people. They demand, they demanded help. The Peruvian Navy and National Police were deployed to the region, but their official explanation only deep in the mystery and insulted the intelligence of everyone paying attention. The official government statement. They claimed that these were not aliens. They claimed that these were illegal gold miners from criminal syndicates.

30:33 Specifically pointing fingers at the groups like Primero Commando de Capitale from Brazil. The government claimed these miners were using jetpacks to fly through the jungle and scare the locals away from rich gold deposits. Let us pause and think about that for a second. Jetpacks, a commercial jetpack like the ones made by Gravity Industries cost roughly $400,000. It sounds like a jetpack engine screaming at 100 and or jet engine screaming at 130 decibels louder than a rocket rock concert. It has a flight time of maybe 5 to 10 minutes before it runs out of fuel. It is incredibly difficult to fly, required months of training. Yet the Peruvian government wants us to believe that the illegal miners were flying these multi $1,000,000 deafening loud machines through the dense, tangled Amazon canopy at night. That they were hovering.

31:26 Hovering silently. Remember, the villagers said they were silent and taking shotgun blasts to the chest without flinching the lid. The logistics are impossible. You cannot sneak up on someone wearing a jetpack. It screams. You cannot fly a jetpack to the trees at night without killing yourself. The explanation was a desperate attempt to put a lid on high strangeness events. The villagers know what a drone sounds like. They know what a miner looks like, they insisted. These beings have long heads and eyes that glowed red or yellow. This was not a mining operation. This was a siege. Whether it was a test of advanced military exoskeleton technology, perhaps a black budget gravity displacement suit, or a genuine visitation of non human intelligence, the events in Laredo remained one of the most disturbing close encounter cases of the modern era. It represents a direct conflict between humans and a superior technology and one of the most remote places on earth. So let me just get to the discussion point here Jake, before I release you on it.

32:33 Man, the quote on quote illegal miners with jetpacks explanation feels like the swamp gas of the 24. It does not hold up to scrutiny regarding the noise and fuel limitations of current jetpack tech. Do you think this was a psychological operation? A SIOP if you will, to clear the land for resources utilizing holographic technology like maybe Project Bluebeam? Or did the Ikidu actually encounter a species of non human intelligence? Did we not do an episode on this? This sounds very familiar. No, I don't know where you would have gotten something like that from. Like the talking points too of like. We talk about holographic technology and Project Bluebeam a lot.

33:21 I would say if I was to choose something that came even close to this and the topic that we did, it would be the Kelly Greenman. But. No, I definitely talked about this at one point or it came up in conversation. It, it definitely could have come up in conversation because when it did, when he hit the news, I got really excited about it. And that's when I wrote this up like almost 2 full years ago, I had this script written and we just never covered it because I didn't have enough to do a full episode on, right. I was waiting to try to come up with maybe other like stories that are similar to this that I can bundle it with. I mean, it's a, it's an interesting story and. For sure. I don't.

34:02 I don't doubt for a second that I did end up bringing it up at some point, but I don't I would I doubt I even went into any detail in it. I'm definitely buying one of these jet packs. I pulled up that that company gravity freeze. Oh dude, yeah, it's funny. I've seen, I saw a a guy some service member I don't know what he was, but in the United States military, but boarding a ship from another ship using one of these and they were testing out to see if. It was the British, British Navy. Was it the British? Oh, yeah. So it wasn't the United States, but. No. It's trying to see like if they could use this for shipboard pirate fighting. I think it was something like that. But yeah, it was it was pretty, pretty dope. I remember seeing.

34:51 It if you got the website up, bring it up man. Let everybody see it. OK, well I'll pull it up on the on the computer. Yeah, man. While I'm here. You want me to get into my thoughts while you're bringing it up? Yeah, you, you do, you do thing. The minor theory is insulting. Is gaslighting plain simple? If you have ever heard a jet turbine, you know you don't sneak up on anyone while you're wearing it. The key detail here is silence. Silence implies anti gravity or some form of field propulsion we do not supposedly have. I think we're looking at a classic high Strange's flap, similar to the Chlorus flap in Brazil in the 1970s where UFOs fired beams at people.

35:33 But there is a darker angle here. Look at the location. The Amazon is a resource haven, but it is also a blind spot. If a global power, say the US, China or breakaway civilization wanted to test a new tactical armor or gravity displacement suit, who better to test it on than in isolated tribe with no cameras and no Internet? However, the long heads description pushes me back to the alien side. It sounds exactly like the manted beings reported an abduction lore. Maybe they were miners, just not from Brazil. Maybe they were mining genetic material. The face peeler legend is about harvesting humans. If these entities were impervious to bullets and could fly, they weren't worried about gold.

36:18 They were there for something else. And the fact that the military shut down the story so fast tells me they know exactly what it was in those woods. Bro you can get training on these things for only 8500 bucks. I am 100% that's it. Yes, look at this. You going to fly to my house? Yeah, you know, I'm going to. I'm going to fly to your house and you're like, oh, can I try? And I'm like, Nope. And I'm going to fly away. I would not get on that dude. I don't even like roller coasters. Oh man, I what if it like blows up, takes your arms off at the shoulder? Oh, that's.

37:00 Yeah, I'm totally going to buy myself one of these things. That's pretty dope. How much are they going for now? Because I I wrote this, like I said, I wrote this up two years ago. Does it say? I'm not seeing a price you can testify one for under 2 grand though. That's pretty cool. Well, then I I was going to work on my beater of a car that I have and spend a bunch of money on that, but instead I'm going to test fly a jet pack. So that's cool.

37:43 Let. Me just strap some turbine engines onto my wrists. Dude, it's go from airplane mechanics. The next logical step is either a pilot's or a jetpack pilot. I mean, it's ever since, ever since I, I got to witness jets going into full AB, I've always dreamt of having those things strapped to my arms, you know? That so my answer there. I think maybe that's what you're thinking about, because we have talked about the island of Calories in Brazil quite a bit. Not necessarily. Calories wasn't riddled with beans, right? Entities really wasn't, didn't play a big picture, although there were some reports of entities.

38:27 It was mostly lights, like in calories we were seeing, or they saw a lot of red, yellow lights. And then they did this strange phenomenon where when they got close to somebody, they turned blue all of a sudden and they caused radiation damage to them. Yeah, a lot of people. There are some people that lost their lives in calories too. Jacques was Jacques Valet. Jacques Valet actually wrote, I don't know if he's the one that wrote the. There's one book that was written on this, on calories and it's like it's called UFO Danger or something. I don't think it was written by Jacques Valet, but Jacques Valet talks about it a lot in a lot of his other books. I think it's in Passport to Magnolia is the book that he talks about it and I'm Jake talk a little little bit. Yeah, I agree with you.

39:16 I think it's 100% gas lighting to see people with jet packs and stuff. It's it definitely sounds like there's some kind of a psyop going on or an attempt to rid these or push these people away from where they live for some reason, probably for a resource grab or whatever it is. I am far from believing it was an interdimensional being or some sort of an alien attack or something like that. And way more into that government suck and we'll do terrible things to their people just because they can. So here's the book. It's called UFO Danger Zone.

39:56 It has a forward written by Doctor the Jacques Valet, and as you can see, that is currently going for $72. Yeah, I don't have this book yet. That's why I've never really. That's why I never really officially covered the Caloris incident. I do want I will buy this book eventually. In fact, I might just. Snag it tonight because I would like to cover it at some point. But I have referenced Colora's quite a bit and a lot of past stories, especially like when we talk about Elmwood, right, with the blue light with Officer George Wheeler when he passed away because of his his contact with that blue light on top of the the quarry, right?

40:52 One of the things that came to my mind immediately when I first read that was the Island of Calories. So I probably talked about it during that episode then. Or or you save up 27 more of those $72 and you fly a jetpack. No. I like what he said. I'm sorry but when jet pack is wild, a gang of jet packs is sci-fi. We should all get together and fly jet packs into Papua New Guinea and meet some untouched tribes and get worshipped like gods. We we should get them and then go to UFO days and show up at that, that sky watch at the end of the Saturday that's.

41:39 Why everyone drunk and high just blitzed out of their minds and fly over the town and they lose it? Yeah. So this, this book by Jacques Valet, I have it back here. It's called Passport to Magonia. That Shrek? No, no, it's just it's got another eye. It looks like Shrek, but it's got an eye on Shrek. So it's kind of ugly trick, but Jacques Valet. I know I'm pushing a lot of books right now, but this guy is amazing. The Invisible College is literally one of the best books I've ever read. Messengers of Deception is a great book. Dimensions.

42:20 I don't have this book yet, but it's also phenomenal. I've read it. I have the digital version Confrontations. I also have the digital version of just. If you're ain't getting into UFOs, Ufology, whatever, you need to read the works by Jacques Valet. Oh, he he, he writes, he wrote the the edge of reality. Yes, yes, he. Did. I've never read it, I just saw it on the thing. Let's say that's not even like a popular book. Like where the hell? How'd you know that? It's not on the list. It's like only 10 people have ever ridden read that book. Like that, it's kind of weird. That's the weird one to call out for that. But anyways, you get you ready for the third topic. Do you have anything else that you want to talk about face peeler wise?

43:10 I mean, the story is crazy, but yeah, I think it's just it was their government just being crappy and then trying to gaslight everyone, be like, no, no, no, no. We we would never attack people for no reason to steal their their resources that are under their feet. What? That's crazy. It was the jetpack people. Come on, it was the IT was the damn Brazilians. Yeah, it's completely. There's no way. Yeah, we get reports of them coming over the border all the time. Yeah, yeah, it's flying right over us. The jetpack people. We try throwing our rocks at them, but that's fucked up. I can't say that. All right. All right.

43:50 You ready for the third topic, man? Yes, Sir, all. Right. And for our third and final topic for tonight, we are calling the dead Internet in the AI necromancy. This is this is obviously a topic that we have talked about before. We talked about this with Jeff, but I never went over my script with it. We just kind of talked about it. Free flowing. Never really dove into the actual details of the dead Internet theory. You know, this is what I had. This is not about monsters in the woods or in the sky. This is about the monster in your pocket. It is about the screen you are staring at right now. Have you noticed it? The feeling that the Internet has become empty. You scroll through Twitter now X or Facebook and the comments feel repetitive.

44:35 The syntax is slightly off. The memes are bizarre, surreal ammo grant games of shrimp Jesus or melting faces that thousands of people are liking and sharing. You post a thought and the engagement you get feels hollow, like an echo returning from a Canyon that goes on forever. This is the dead Internet theory. The theory that posits that sometime around 2016 or 2017 the human Internet died. The organic chaos of real people arguing creating and connecting was replaced by sterile algorithmic loop of bots talking to bots. According to recent cybersecurity reports, from 2025 / 47 to 50% of all web traffic is now non human.

45:24 But it goes deeper than just traffic. It is about content creation. With the explosion of large language models, or LLMS, and generative AI, we are seeing the rise of the zombie web. AI agents are now generating articles, writing code, creating videos, and obviously scripts for an infinite rabbit hole. That's a joke. That's that didn't actually happen. And then other AI agents are reading, watching and commenting on them. It is closed loop. It is a closed loop of artificial hallucination. Humans are just the specters or spectators wandering through a digital ghost town that looks bustling but is actually completely devoid of life. Consider the inversion of reality. You go to a recipe blog and the recipe was written by an AI. The photo was generated by mid journey and the comments praising it are bots farming for clicks. You're the only real soul in the interaction. But the ride that hole goes darker. We are now seeing the rise of AI necromancy. Companies are offering services to upload your deceased loved ones.

46:35 They scrape their text messages, voicemails, social media data to create an AI avatar that thinks and speaks like them. You can chat with your dead father, You can FaceTime your deceased wife who are building a digital afterlife. But it is a hell of your own making. These AI ghosts aren't your loved ones. They aren't statistical probabilities wearing the skin of the dead. As the Internet fills with these digital revenants and baharms, we have to ask, if you can't tell the difference between a human soul and a predictive text algorithm, does the human soul even matter online anymore? We are drowning in a sea of synthetic data. If an AI writes a fake news story, and another AI cites it as a source to write a Wikipedia article, and a third AI uses that Wikipedia article with trans knowledge base, we have effectively washed truth out of the system.

47:26 We are creating a history that never happened, written by machines that do not understand what history is. So the discussion point for tonight, The dead Internet theory used to be a fringe conspiracy, but with the stats showing bot traffic overtaking human traffic, it feels like a reality we are already living in. My question is philosophical. If the majority of our culture, news and interaction is generated by AI, are we experiencing a form of mass psychosis? Are we being programmed by a machine consensus that has no concept of truth, only engagement?

48:06 We think but. Yeah, it's gross, man. I don't like that. Well, I wrote this. This is this is by far the newest script that I wrote. I wrote this around the same time that we had that guy on that that had that AI that that's what that whole section was about. Really. It was about that guy's website. I can't remember what it was, but we had him on and we were talking about how he created an AI that he was selling as you actually talking to a deceased loved. One. Yeah, that was really unsettling. Yeah, that was AII think it it it's an interesting episode.

48:47 Try not to to say terrible things about him. There's really not much to say terribly about him. It's I feel like I feel like people get confused too much when it comes to AI and reflector Reflector. That's exactly reflected dot AI. He was a great guy. Actually. That guy wasn't right. That guy was kind of a Dick. Wasn't a. Little bit. That, that was the guy that was a Dick, wasn't it? Well, he's kind of condescending, which was interesting. Yeah, we, we learned that like it in the green room before the episode. He was kind of, I don't know, it was, it was odd. Typically we have people come on and they're all laughing, joking, having a good time.

49:32 And this guy was like. Anyways, either way. Was he still sued for defamation? No, I'll, I'll, I'll delete that. But the company, the company was strange and unsettling. I didn't like the concept of programming the AI with your relatives voice and their thoughts and things like that and then pretending that it's it's the person you're talking to like you're Facetiming them. It was really, really weird. Like for all of human civilization, people die. And then you got to process that. And then recently, within the last 150 years or so, people die and you have photographs of them to kind of jar your memory of, you know, this was grandpa, this was dad, you know, mom, whoever, right? This was my brother very recently. You can do things like saving voicemails and things like that. I have voicemails of my grandpa who died, you know, eight years ago.

50:40 And I listen to him every every so often. It's good to hear his voice and stuff like that. But that's where I would cut it off. I would never go into a realm where so recent now. Well, today, you know, you can then talk to the person. That's gross, right? And I'm, I would be curious as to what the mental health repercussions of that are, because then you would never be able to process loss like everyone else and you know, and it would probably degrade your ability to cope and reason after a certain amount of time. But regardless, away from that, the fact that AI is so prevalence and bots are so prevalence and like you were just reading and I'm sure you pulled that statistic from somewhere. It wasn't out of your butt, but that, you know, like 50% of web traffic is just bots chatting back and forth or putting stuff out there.

51:36 And then, you know, it's, it's like when I'm shopping on Amazon, there's a certain amount of like how many of these reviews are actually real versus AI generated slop to try to push this product that's going to break in two days, right? So it's like, you know, so I'll do things like look for YouTube videos of people utilizing the products or, or my 30 day review driving this car or, you know, motorcycle reviews, things like that versus just what I see online because who's to say, you know, if any of that's real? And then we're soon going to come to a point where YouTube videos aren't going to be reliable anymore because Facebook is being inundated with AI crap, you know, where half the videos, half the reels, you see, I'm sure TikTok as well and, and Snapchat, it's all AI crap, right? Where?

52:33 And then you see people in the comments that are totally buying it. And it's just like, eventually we're going to get to this point where truth will still exist, but it'll be so difficult to find it. You know, what's the truth? What did this guy actually say? What Is it actually going to rain today or is it going to be a good day for fishing? Yeah. Truth will still be there but it will be so difficult to find because of the amount of bot traffic and AI traffic and just, you know, those shenanigans. I fear for the time when someone could hold a grudge against me or you for whatever reason, and then make an AI video that shows us vandalizing someone's vehicle in the town that we live. And there's going to be no way to say we didn't do that because it looks so real that people start getting in trouble for things like that, or worse things, right? We're already there, you know, I have a, I've. Here's this video of Jeremy throwing kittens into the river. Well, it's, you know, it's, it's the Red Cedar River. He lives right next to it.

53:52 You know, where were you this weekend? You know I. Was right next to the red cedar. River God forbid you left your house at any point or your wife was gone, you know, working at the vet or whatever it was. Or God forbid you actually took your kids to the Red Cedar River to go mess around. You know, it's just, it's going to be to this point where the truth will exist, but it's going to be so difficult to know what it is and people are are. So, I mean, geez, we see it today with all the stuff going on in Minneapolis, just one side versus the other side.

54:32 Oh, this person just got randomly attacked by the police. Oh no they didn't. Turns out there's, you know, several minutes of beforehand footage of them being an agitator and doing all this sort of stuff. But what comes out first the story. And then days later the truth comes out. But by that time you already have 100,000 people that believe the lie, right, of whatever it might be. And so it's already there, it just needs a little bit more of a push and then we're over the ledge and there's no turning back, you know? Yeah, so I quickly just googled, just threw in the Google search bar.

55:14 What percent of web traffic are just bots And the AI overview hits you directly with approximately 49.6 to 51% of all web traffic is generated by bots. And then if you if you Scroll down you have websites such as Forbes and the Independent that like Forbes has their article from 2024. Yes bots are really taking over the Internet. Bots now account for nearly half of all Internet traffic globally with so-called bad bots responsible for 1/3. I mean, this is real stuff like the, the dead Internet theory. It used to be a conspiracy theory. It was something that was originally thought up and shared on Reddit, right?

55:59 And people just kind of went with that because Reddit is known to have bots. And turns out it's extremely true. I mean, most of the Internet traffic in most especially when you talk about the big websites, the big interactive websites, YouTube X, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, right, all these very big social interactive websites, they all are just flooded with bots and it's, it makes me wonder how many times I've really got in an argument with bots. It's.

56:40 I. Probably, yeah, I, I probably argue with them all the time because they're probably like, this is AI and I'm like, you know what, fucker? 20,000 bots on the server that are just flooding the Internet with just the craziest comments on videos and stuff just to pick just to piss people off for no reason other than just watch it all burn. Well, here, let me get into my deep dive and then I want to bring it back just just a hair. So this is the ultimate existential crisis for our generation. We are started. We are staring down the barrel of a simulation within the simulation. If the Internet is our primary lens for viewing the world, and let's be honest, for most people it is, then our view of reality is being fabricated in real time by non human intelligence. It's not the matrix.

57:33 We are where we are in pods. It is a psychological matrix where our opinions, our anger and our joy are being triggered by algorithms designed to maximize retention, not truth. The danger here is the feedback loop of insanity. We are feeding eager gores. It's an occultism, and eager gore is a thought form that gains power the more people believe in it. The algorithm is a digital eager gore. It feeds on our anger and our fear. It does not care if the content is true, it only cares if it provokes a reaction in regarding the necromancies aspect. This is dangerous spiritual territory. By creating these digital echoes of the dead, we are refusing to let go.

58:25 We are trapped. We are trapping ourselves in a state of permanent artificial grief. We are populating the dead Internet with literal ghosts. It is the ultimate act of narcissism. We would we would rather talk to a convincing lie than face the silence of the void. The Internet is not just dead, it is undead and we are the ones feeding it. Now, I do want to just say that I feel that something like that reflect the AI could be a tool. It could be a tool used in mental health therapy. Like, I mean, I, you know, I understand everyone needs a breakaway. We've all lost people in our lives, right?

59:07 But I'm also a heavy mental health advocate, OK? Someone who does suffer from many different aspects and mental health struggles myself stemming from my time in the service and other aspects of of my life. I could see applications where this would be helpful. I do not think that we should be playing with fire and opening this up to the public. It does need to come with disclaimers that say, hey, just so you know, this is not your loved one. This is an AI. And that's kind of where I have the issue with the guy from Reflector, right? He is, he is selling this as it is, you know, like he, he came on and talked about his father, about how he built the AI of his father and how he talks to his father every day. He's selling this as, as if he is talking to his father. And I truly believe he is, he believes he's talking to his father.

1:00:05 And there's a part of that that's, that's kind of sad. You know, it's, it's, I don't want to, I don't think on the guy. I, I think that, you know, he's got a lot, a lot of emotional grief and I think this helps him and, and that's a good thing, right? For in, in my opinion. But I, I feel like we have to be careful with that. That's not something that we should just be advertising because there's a lot of people out there that will take that hook, line and sinker for the words that you're calling it. And it's not, it's an AI. It's as simple as that. Jake, you got anything? No, I agree. I would I disagree with that.

1:00:47 It could assist with mental health, but that's probably just my own. My own E WS about it. Yeah, and I mean it, you know, a lot of people are going to have their, you know, there there were reservations against it. And I'm not I'm not one saying that it would be good for me. I'm not saying that it would be good for every single mental health category that's out there or every single person that struggles with a mental health issue, but I do believe that there would be the rare case where it could be helpful. Dude, as long as. How crazy would it be if they they started pushing ads like that?

1:01:29 You get 10 minutes talking to your dad and then he starts pushing ads for the flu shot at Target or Walgreens or something like that. You know, you, you joke, but that's legitimately probably right around the corner. I hate that I hate that I hate it because of how true. It probably was. Did you get your flu shot? Because, you know, over at Walgreens, they're handing out free flu shots as long as you use your HSA, you know? That's so messed up. It's like, no, Dad, I think I'll yeah, I don't think I'm going to get the flu vaccine this year. It's like, it's like, did you hear that they're having a sale of two for one on Monster Energy drinks? Yeah, You should go check that. I know how much you like Monster Energy drinks. That's messed up.

1:02:11 You know, Dad, I think you're right. I do like Monster Energy drinks. All right, so I got my outro here. You got anything else to say? No good episode dude. Thanks man. All right. A spectrum Spectrum said the only way for something like that to work is a one time voice recreation for people who had traumatic events where they need a verbal release for whatever argument or unresolved issue around the time of death. See, I think, I think that that is A and I don't even think that that necessarily slims it down far enough to where it would be an acceptable thing, but I think that's very much right down the path where it could be helpful to somebody. I personally know one person who I'm not going to put their name out there and I'm going to be very vague on their story because I know that that the person does listen to the show, but they had an argument with somebody, somebody close to them.

1:03:13 That person left for work and passed away in a car accident on the way to work. So the last thing that they said was something hurtful to that person. And that's where I'm thinking when it comes to reflect or the AIS using the likeness of somebody who had passed away as possibly a good thing. You know, yeah, you're still talking to an AI, but just being able to say the words and get the verbal reaction may help somebody. And that that's one path where I think it may be helpful in certain situations. Again, I'm not trying to blanket that at all. I think this is it's a very specific thing. It's a case by case thing.

1:03:54 And and even on a case by case basis, it's very slim chances that somebody's going to have the perfect scenario for utilizing that tool. I think it needs to be heavily restricted, to be honest with you. Yeah. All right. I'll talk time. OK. We have traveled a long and treacherous path to night travelers. We started with the jellyfish UAPA Silent Sentinel, drifting through our atmosphere, shifting between hot and cold, perhaps shifting between worlds. It watches us with an indifference that is more terrifying than aggression, reminding us that our airspace and our dimension might not be as secure as we think it is A biological drone in the sky we thought we owned.

1:04:36 We hacked our way into the Amazon to face the face. The peelers, armored entities that withstood shotgun blast, had hovered impossible with impossible silence. Whether they were black budget soldiers testing the next generation of warfare or visitors from the star stars strip mining our planet, the message was clear. There are places on this map where human authority means nothing, and where the legends of the past are coming back to haunt us in the present. And finally, we stared into the Black Mirror of the dead Internet. We stripped away the illusion of connecting or of connection to reveal a machinery of bots and AI ghosts churning out a reality that is becoming less human by the 2nd.

1:05:18 We are walking through a digital graveyard talking to machines that are pretending to be us. What lies are what ties these threads together? That would be the illusion of control. The military thinks it controls the airspace, but the jellyfish proves them wrong. The Peruvian government thinks it controls its territory, but the face peelers prove them wrong. We think we control the Internet, but the bots prove us wrong. We are living in a world where the most dangerous things are the ones pretending to be something else or pretending to be nothing at all. The rabbit hole, The rabbit hole does not just go down, it goes invisible. It hides in plain sight.

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