Northern Idaho Bigfoot feat. Derek and Katie

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So for today's introduction, we
have an audio clip for everyone.

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This audio was sent to us from
Derek and Katie and northern

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Idaho and it was recorded in
September 2020.

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The first audio clip that will
play is the original recording.

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The second clip is with enhanced
volume.

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The third clip is the same but a
bit slower.

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Keep in mind that we can clearly
hear horses neighing and dogs

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barking.
But the Deep yelling throughout

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the audio isn't from any known
animal that they or, we are

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aware of welcome to this episode
where we dig into, whatever

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could be making this sound
Bigfoot, and welcome back to

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infinite rabbit hole.
So real quick, the first audio

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is pretty quiet, so listen to
that and then I'll say second

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audio after that.
I'll give you a few seconds to

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turn your volume down because we
enhanced it.

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Pretty pretty high so that you
guys can really get a grasp of

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what we're listening to.
And then the third audio clip is

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going to be just as loud.
So adjust your volume

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accordingly.
Thanks

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The sources are starting to
freak out.

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I can hear him name.
Second audio in 5 4, 3 2 1.

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Third audio.
I'll just restart.

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But we're just gonna restart.
I'm gonna go ahead and remove

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that again.
Welcome back to the, if the

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rabbit hole for the third time
today, my name is Jeremy.

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I'm your host.
I am joined today by Jacob and

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Kidd, Kidd Ken's are of the
Ken's, our kids stuff and our

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guest today, which everyone here
is excited to hear from.

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So we're going to skip
introductions, Derek and Katie

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Derek.
It's going on man.

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How you doing?
Pretty good.

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How are you guys doing doing
pretty good, man?

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Doing pretty good.
We're still lagging a little

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bit, but this is much better
than it was over on our other

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platform.
For those listening in tonight,

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please be considerate.
We are experiencing some

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technical difficulties, but
honest, it doesn't matter.

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It is what it is.
It is what we're going to have a

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good time tonight.
We're going to talk about some

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cool shit.
Shit.

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Some stuff that's been happening
over on Derek's property over

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there in Idaho and some of his
other stories as well.

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Derek reached out to us a little
while ago via email and sent us

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a really awesome clip, which
were, which I'm going to attempt

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to put on a front of this
episode.

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So hopefully, you guys were able
to hear that.

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That is the clip that Derek's
it's into us.

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If not, then you're just not
going to hear it and nobody's

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going to get this entire
episode.

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That's okay.
Derek.

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So, first things first In your
email to us, you said that

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you've had a couple different
paranormal experiences with

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experiences in your life, but I
really would love to start off

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with this, this audio.
Can you give us the backstory of

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this audio first?
I just want to hear what?

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What?
What brought you outside to

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start recording this man.
How long did it go for?

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Oh, it was like end of September
beginning of October in 2020 and

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maybe 2019.
I'm not sure the year Booker

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sitting out by the fire pit.
September 8, the 2020 according

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to Katie nice.
My wife we were sitting out by

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our fire pit and then I started
getting dark so it's time to

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come inside to get ready for the
kids to go to The kid to go to

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bed and everything and I heard
like the dogs on all the

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properties, just going crazy and
I like what's going on.

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So I opened up the door and I
was listening for a little bit

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and all of a sudden scream and
like guttural.

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Yell that I've never heard up
here before.

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And so I pulled out my phone and
then, and you can hear the

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horses, and I've never heard the
horses going crazy.

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We've heard coyotes and other
animals around here, too, but

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it's never made the horses.
Has go crazy like that but upon

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listening to it and everything
like you can hear my kid.

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He says Dad, I'm scared and it's
just, I don't know.

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And we've done a lot of research
to like of the local animals.

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Like the Cougars Bobcats and
what their screams and calls

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sound like but nothing honestly.
Sounds like what I've heard of

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here That is some crazy shit
man.

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So your best guess you mind
putting it out there.

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What do you think this is?
I honestly I honestly think it

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might be a Bigfoot big feet.
So when you said guttural yell I

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sit in here.
I got the goose bumps because I

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was telling Jeremy right before
this.

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I play I played it on my, my
sound system in here and just,

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you know, crank it all the way
up.

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And I told him I was like, that
is exactly what I heard out when

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I was camping in Northern
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We're out there and it was We
heard the tree knocking

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everything like that and as
like, I have this huge game, if

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I call, if I ran into a Bigfoot,
I would run out there and, you

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know, and, you know, get a
fistful of hair or something

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like that.
Whatever, right, whatever I'd

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say that circumstance.
But dude, I didn't breathe for,

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like, 10 minutes.
I'm sure of it.

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He was the tree knocking all
around, all the adults, the next

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morning, they're all like, oh my
gosh, did you hear that?

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Like everyone heard it and then
the campsites were spaced out by

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like You know, maybe a quarter
to a half mile or whatever is

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basically if you could get into
the area you could camp there.

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So they had, you know, a 70
degree incline, you drive your

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truck up into, right to get into
these spots, but we could hear

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the people partying down the
creek because it's all echoey

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and stuff and you could hear
them out there, screaming

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hooting hollering, you know,
they're drinking it up and then

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all this activity started and
they just shut up over there and

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it was the loudest deepest yell
I've ever heard and it was just

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fun.
Out into the woods and echoing

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and stuff.
And all these knocking all

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around us and everything.
And these guys are here.

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Shut up and turn off their music
and stuff.

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They're all freaked out.
And I heard your video and I was

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just like, that is exactly what
I heard.

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Like it was crazy.
And then I found this massive

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footprint right behind my tent
that we put up on our Facebook

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group right behind it nuts.
Absolutely.

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Yeah.
It's not sand, like I've never

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believed in Bigfoot and
everything, but it's like, oh,

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could be just be old wives tale,
But like after hearing that, I'm

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like, I have no idea what the
hell that was.

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It was Bigfoot, don't worry.
So give me.

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Give me a little bit of the
history man.

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Has this ever been a thing on
this property?

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Have you heard it since?
No, that was the first time

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we've heard it and we had heard
it since and we've talked to our

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neighbors and we've had a my
wife showed it to a couple

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friends and they're just like we
have no idea what the hell that

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could have been because of that
night, that it happened.

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Like normally when people hear
things around here, they will

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post on Facebook.
Hey right here that or you know,

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booms around nobody.
He posted anything on.

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What they heard that night.
Nobody that Because nobody

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wanted to come out like it.
Did you guys hear that Bigfoot?

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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I mean that's what I was
thinking.

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So it's like are we supposed to
hear like was that like it was

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terrifying but it was, you could
hear it because it's Echo Wing

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wherever it's at.
I got a supposed to-- and it's

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just like it was just one of
those things where it's just

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like it's baffling.
Like and it's funny because we

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watched a lot of like North
Woods law and all that and they

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had a rabid Bobcat, come on.
Well they didn't know it was

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wrapped in.
My work go and it let out the

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scream.
Like, I wonder if I could have

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been like a rabid Bobcat, but
then you go back and replay both

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of them.
Like no, that was not.

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That was unless somebody was
being stupid and had a

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microphone and don't you know
what I mean?

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Like, jump something like that.
Had a microphone.

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I'm like, but then again even
though the like course the seems

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weird But it was just some one
time, but every everything was

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freaked out like it was just it
was weak.

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Here.
Yeah, but I've never heard the

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horses behind us start going to
tell like they were on that

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video because there's a weird.
It was like, growing up and

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stuff, and it's like up here.
I don't feel uncomfortable, like

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that night.
Was just weird, but going into a

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lot of the force and Washington.
I fucking do not want to the

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force in Washington.
I hate them the couple as soon

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as he walked into a deep dark
part of the forest you think

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you're going to get eaten alive
by something somewhat.

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I don't know.
It's just weird because I've

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been camping in those areas
since I was a little kid and

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it's like I've never felt
comfortable going into any

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forest and Washington because it
feels like there's some presents

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out there.
Yeah.

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You take a lot of the things you
take a lot of here.

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Native American lore and history
and stories that come out of the

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area.
I know Idaho is very famous for

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being a Blackfoot territory.
I'm not too familiar with the

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exact area that you guys are
from, but I know that they have

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a lot of stories of creatures of
men of the woods of screaming,

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spirits of coming from the woods
which you know can be correlated

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and easily explained of by
Bobcats.

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And you know it doesn't
necessarily have to be a rabid

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Bobcat.
I've heard a Screen in the

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woods.
I've heard of bobcats scream

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shoot 20 feet away from me
before.

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They're allowed its it sucks.
I mean, Fox is also also make a

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pretty gnarly sound too.
What does the fox say?

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It doesn't.
If you listen to the video.

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One thing that I found, that was
absolutely just amazing was, was

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a different layers of sounds and
the different bodies of voices

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that are out there.
There.

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And I say, voices, just because
I'm trying to differentiate

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between the different sounds.
You have a really high pitch

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scream which could be you know,
it could be a bobcat then you

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had that very low guttural yell
that is something that's not

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necessarily made by an unknown
creature of the woods.

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You know, that's something
that's a little bit different.

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Then you have as you say in the
video you hear the horses

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neighing.
There's a lot of really

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interesting stuff coming from
this.

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So Do you know anything about
the area is there is their

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history in your area, a Bigfoot?
Sightings is this?

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Have you guys looked into this
at all?

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Once I started listening to you,
when you were telling, you said

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something about the BFRO
researching on the internet, I

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went in and I went to that
website and I typed in for a

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went or County and everything,
and I found a couple that are

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kind of like to the east of us
but nothing really in our area

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that I could find.
You should submit that video to

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them.
You should.

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That's what.
I'm honestly thinking about it,

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do it, they would probably go
nuts over.

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It, it's definitely some
interesting stuff.

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I know a couple people that are
probably going to be listening

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to this episode that may want to
get in touch with you.

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Of course, you know, I'll
contact you on a case-by-case

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basis and you know, let you
decide about that.

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But we could, you know, if you
want to excel this we could

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definitely do that.
I have some, some connections in

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the world and those people that
I have connections with have

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better connections than I do.
So, If you do want to get some

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some focus on that we definitely
can.

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So Katie is Katie is Katie there
with you, okay?

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Just just cooking dinner.
No, no, you're good, you're good

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back.
When we were recording on the

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other platform, your kind of
talk a little bit about your

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history and your beliefs and
Bigfoot, do you kind of, do you

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mind kind of reiterating that a
little bit and telling us a

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little A bit about your history
and your focus on the subject

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just so that we can make sure we
get that recorded.

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No, that's fine.
I don't like this in my mom.

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Always, she grew up with a
Sci-Fi, not sports stuff and

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we've always talked about, you
know, UFOs.

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Like we're not only, we're not
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Like we, we literally always
talked about stuff growing up

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and becoming up, was like one of
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again, it's like, every time I
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Wyoming to organ or Washington.
I would look at it was like, I'm

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going to see something that I'm
not going to know what it is

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just because of how my mom, like
my dad, like were Christian,

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Believers and all that, but it's
like my mom instilled in me that

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we're not alone stuff out there,
but the we can just fly it.

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Like there is absolutely stuff.
We cannot explain like I was

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telling you about the woods and
Washington and stuff.

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It's like, I would visit my
tells all the time and she had a

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party and it Would back up a
line, you know, someone's I

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don't know exactly what
Forrester was but literally it

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was black like I would not I as
soon as you cross that tree line

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I did not feel safe even as a
child I don't feel safe.

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I will not feel safe going in
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Like you just, it's a mirror.
It's a weird feeling you get, I

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guess.
And it's like, when we went

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camping because we might, we
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Washington, as Which was the
called will come away, Skookum

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away this time.
And here's the stuff and they

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and you know, all the horses
stuff around those it was a

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played play like your sin or
they have your to know that you

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can rent out all that but as
soon as I walked into the

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forest, I love doing
photography.

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So I go out and take pictures
and I walk out there and I

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bought a certain amount and I'm
like, I'm done like you just get

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that Eerie uncomfortable feeling
where it's just You don't feel

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comfortable being out there
because you know, something's

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other.
So if that makes sense, why did

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you scare the living shit.
I just want to talk a little bit

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about the Skookum title because
Skookum is a very hot topic word

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inside of the Bigfoot Community.
Now, there is a very, very

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popular famous cast, called the
Skookum cast Which is it, it's a

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cast of an entire body of
Bigfoot laying on its side and

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you know some people will try to
say that.

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No, this is a deer and they
could point out the thin forearm

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of the deer on the cast itself
and some people look at it and

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they're like yeah you know, I
can definitely see the ass cheek

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of a Bigfoot and and see it
reaching and Skookum is actually

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the word.
Is it originates from Canada,

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actually kid, just to throw that
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There for you.
I don't know what tribal musume

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it comes from a tribe but it
actually means strong, big and

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excellent and a lot of places
that are just that are recorded

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as you know in the title of the
place as Skookum goes along with

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a lot of the places that are
also have devil in the word are

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in the term like Devils Lake
Devil's Ridge, has Devil's

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Mountain and everything like
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They all have a A reference to a
wild man in the woods.

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Go ahead kids.
I'm sorry.

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That's okay.
I just wanted to quickly throw

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out there.
Skookum is actually a chinook

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work Chinook and that is
Canadian right.

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Yes snuck is Canadian.
Yeah, I know the hockey team I'm

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not too sure where exactly the
Chinook is but the whale isn't

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it.
Salmon salmon.

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Well fish, duh.
So that's pretty cool.

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That is, there's some very
interesting stuff, I absolutely

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believe in Bigfoot.
I mean, that's, that's no

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secret.
I've talked about that all the

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time on my show.
Derek, what about you, man?

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What's your history?
And your beliefs on the big

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hairy man in the woods?
Honestly, like I can't I would

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have these discussions watching
all the Bigfoot shows it's like

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yeah.
There could be something else

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but I like hearing that and then
drive through the vast expanse

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of forest and watched him, like
there has to be some near.

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I mean like there's so many
acres of unexplored land at are

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just treated Leaf read.
You'd be dumped and think that

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we're alone, We're Alone.
Yeah.

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Have you ever flew over that
area of the country Donnie

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Werner?
It's, there's nothing out there,

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it's nuts.
Yeah, I flew from Pax River.

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Maryland out to Point Mugu
California, one time, actually

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like four or five times.
But one time I actually was

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awake for the entire thing and
went as soon as we passed over

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the Mississippi, it gets very
very sparse.

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And then, of course, once you
get into the Rockies, it is just

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insane.
I mean, you can look down and be

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like, I think that's a road.
It could.

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Could be a road but it's too
short.

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It's like, it's like a like a
river, maybe a creek, I don't

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know, but there's no, there's no
like established pounds or or

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anything out there, man.
It's just nothing.

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I mean, every once in a while,
you'll see like a breaks in

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like, electrical wires, you
know, like the brakes of the

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forest where the electrical
wires will cut through.

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You'll see those every once in a
while more than you'll see any

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roads or towns or anything.
It's just absolutely nuts.

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How much space there is out
there and I think people just

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kind of get lost in Any idea
that there's that the United

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States is just completely packed
full and there's no no room for

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a Bigfoot and it's just
completely wrong.

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That's one thing that a lot of
from my experience a lot of

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people don't understand how much
land is not being used.

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We there's nobody there, there's
nothing going on.

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We haven't even crossed this
portion of the land, right?

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Like and I've a lot of people
forget about that so they're

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like oh there's No way.
We haven't found a Bigfoot.

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Oh, absolutely.
There is.

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There's hundreds and thousands
of species of animals that are

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probably so highly.
Who knows if they're still the

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ones that they found on extinct
animals.

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Yeah, that are not an extinct
extinct animals not, I think

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sorry, but you know what I mean?
Like they find all this stuff.

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It's like, we have so much land
as not been even touched all

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across the world.
So it's like, who Whoa, was what

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the hell is out there?
It's just like the universe and

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I'm going to go into a rebel
holes on me when I go to yes

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that's one of the show.
You gotta do what you gotta do.

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That's what we do here.
No I'm just I have a I am

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terrified of the ocean because
I'm much too many just like

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plastic.
You do not get a follicle and

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lasted.
Nice.

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Um, I want to know, but I want
to know what's under the ocean.

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I have to know like, before I
die.

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I want to know, do we have a
Megalodon, just hanging out down

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there.
I want to know about our space

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like I, I want to know this
stuff, but it's base, is fake.

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Yeah.
No I haven't that.

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I mean if you're into the ocean
stuff that is an awesome

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episode.
I got to see if that episodes

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like live because if not I'll
turn it live right now for you

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is it?
Yeah.

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Okay.
The bloop and Julia sounds.

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We did it with a with a woman
named.

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Yeah, me from another podcast.
I love that episode and I'm with

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you, I totally agree.
We gotta figure.

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We Got to stop focusing on space
and start focusing on the water

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like you're like, okay, we
already know we have aliens,

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okay, they were pretty announced
that crab so it's like lets you

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know, put a little deeper into
where we live and figure out

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what's down there.
So what I want to know.

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Yeah, that's fair, I don't know.
And I feel you on the Bigfoot

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thing and being a Christian, I'm
a Christian guy.

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I think that Bigfoot exists.
It's lots of a belief for me

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more, as like, If someone were
to say, do you think that there

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could be a different species of
wolf that we haven't discovered

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yet be like, yeah, probably
like, it's just it's not, it's

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not, it's just an animal, you
know, I don't go into the whole

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mindspeak thing or they're
teleporting or they're turning

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translucent when people see
them, any of that sort of stuff,

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it's just like, all right, we
know that gigantopithecus

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existed in China, right?
At some point and it's just like

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you never want to spreading out,
they followed land bridges and

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stuff during the Ice Age.
Okay, cool.

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And then you You know, why
couldn't that have come over

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here too?
It's just not a big deal to me.

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I'm just like, yeah, probably
and you know, honestly I was

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kind of in this point for me
when I was just like, here in

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Jeremy was talking about his
Bigfoot experience, he did a

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couple times on the show and and
then I went up.

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Did that Whatchamacallit?
Did that camping trip and Dinky

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Creek, California, and that kind
of sealed.

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The deal for me, I found the
footprint, I heard the tree

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knocks, I heard the yelling, all
this sort of stuff.

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One that I was with that was,
you know, some of them are

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really big into Bigfoot and
stuff.

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I mean, they couldn't shut up
about it.

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It was just like that kind of
sealed it for me and it's just

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like, all right.
Well the next step is to, you

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know, actually see one which
according to Jeremy is depending

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on in what location.
And what activity they're

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involved in, it could be pretty
horrifying but you know it's

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like it's not a big deal for me.
It has no impact on my faith and

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just like wow God made another
interesting animal like okay

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cool sounds good to me you know
it's like it has Thing to do

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with with that at all.
But it's just like you sure,

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created a, not some scientific
experiment but the government I

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would say because of the
neighborhood and lure that

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that's most likely not.
Yeah, because it goes back to.

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I'm just like now is there
something out there that the

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government operated now?
Definitely creating you.

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Look at the Bishopville Lizard,
Man Down in the Carolinas, that

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could definitely be some kind of
government experiment, gone

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wrong, the Beast of Busco, which
is out in Indiana, which is a

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gigantic fucking Turtle.
I don't, I was gonna say that's

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the giant turtle, isn't it?
That thing's fucking huge and I

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mean that could be something
where it's like a radiation

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issue or or something along
those lines are good.

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I mean, be a one-off of some
kind of weird saltwater tortoise

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that got stuck in a freshwater
Pond, I don't know.

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I mean there's definitely some
some of them out there that

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could definitely be some kind of
weird government experiment.

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I'm on, I'm on the the side with
Jake here.

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I only Bigfoot is I just I just
think that There's two too many

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stories coming from.
They're just too old for it to

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be that case, but if you talk
about the gugg with the gugg,

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way is a absolute Savage of a
Bigfoot.

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This is the most dangerous type
of Bigfoot that you can get here

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in the United States.
If you're interested in some of

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the scarier story was about
things.

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Like a like a like a baboon /,
Dogman thing.

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Yeah, it's absolutely vicious.
That could be, that could be

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something gone wrong.
I don't know.

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But the typical Patty style
Bigfoot, I would say that's just

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animal.
Here's my question.

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Do you think that since we know
like we always was a Bigfoot?

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Do you think that there could be
like an, ER They're intertwining

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with each like especially each
region is going to have some

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different, right?
Oh yeah.

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We live in all this percent
because there would be and like

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get a replay there makes me
think you know what you mean

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Regional differences enough.
Looks like a meeting with the

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other from other species.
Like one finds one here, one

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finds one here they met and they
create a super super Bigfoot,

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super Bigfoot.
Oh yeah.

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That be happening.
Like, do you think that migrate

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and do different things?
Oh, yeah.

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Hybridization definitely could
be a thing for sure.

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I definitely am on board with
hybridization.

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I mean if you look back to you
know no Jake's feels a little

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bit different about this but you
go by what science tells you

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they tell you that the
Cro-Magnon and the Neanderthal

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made it and eventually one died
off in one created the modern

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human being that we are today.
So yes, I absolutely do believe

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that that can happen.
I mean you get the same thing

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with coyotes and dogs, dogs and
wolves, wolves and coyotes.

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It happens, right?
You can't stop that kind of

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stuff.
These are these are wild wild

448
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800
creatures, wild beans that, you
know?

449
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:13,900
I mean shoot something looks
good, you might as well.

450
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:18,800
Fuck it, right?
More simple perspective.

451
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,900
I mean, you know, for lions and
tigers, apparently there's

452
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:24,400
ligers.
You know, it's just like if it's

453
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,000
in the same species, there's
really no reason why it couldn't

454
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,800
interbreed and I don't see why,
why?

455
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,400
It wouldn't.
Excuse my language.

456
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Sorry, I didn't mean to be this,
but it's married a reindeer

457
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
worried about, what?
Yeah, I try to be a trying to be

458
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:49,000
respectful.
We only have another six minutes

459
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:54,100
of recording time left on this.
They limit your recording time

460
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:58,000
on Zoom.
So we'll talk for like another

461
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,400
five minutes and then we'll cut
out and we'll get joined back in

462
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:02,900
and we'll do another recording
to continue.

463
00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:05,800
Is that okay with you guys?
Yeah, that's fine.

464
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,700
Cool.
All right.

465
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:15,500
So just so we can kind of get
this in before time cuts out.

466
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,700
Is there anything that you guys
do believe within the world of

467
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,500
cryptozoology is I'm talking
about creatures, not aliens, not

468
00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:24,400
goes or anything like that.
I'm more interested about

469
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,400
physical creatures of the woods
of the of the Lakes, the rivers

470
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,200
ponds the oceans.
The hills, the everything,

471
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,400
physical Flesh, and Blood
creatures.

472
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,900
Do you guys Even anything that
that we haven't discovered,

473
00:31:37,900 --> 00:31:39,800
since we're already kind of on a
topic.

474
00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:52,500
Be say things, Derek.
I'll say out to her, we all

475
00:31:52,500 --> 00:31:56,900
know.
I haven't had my crayons for

476
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:00,800
today so I'm a little laughing.
I'll send you some, I'm not

477
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,500
gonna lie, I actually I was this
close to Bringing Koreans to

478
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,300
this.
This topic, I was gonna bring

479
00:32:07,300 --> 00:32:11,600
them to Greens.
My favorite French hate, it's

480
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:38,600
all love.
I think honestly the wind goes

481
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,300
just like crazy because it's a
cannibalistic person.

482
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,800
Do your thing that just fits
nuts.

483
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,500
Ya know something.
Odd dear.

484
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:55,100
No not near as a little
different that sounded pretty

485
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:58,800
girls.
Drawing England during the year?

486
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:01,100
Yeah.
No they're not near as

487
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,200
interesting.
Eventually we will cover

488
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,900
something like that.
Not dear.

489
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,200
Oh yeah, the not dear.
It's n0t.

490
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:32,400
Yeah, it's literally,
that was for the first time as a

491
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,000
guest.
She was the first one to reach

492
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,900
out.
To us via email and just kind of

493
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:39,400
talk to us a little bit about
our show and explain how much

494
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,000
she appreciated it.
So it was like, fuck it.

495
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,700
Let's have this person on and
let them choose what to talk

496
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,500
about.
Kid, take it from there.

497
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Yeah, I just wanted to email the
guys and be like, hey, you guys

498
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,100
are doing a great job, like,
keep up the good work.

499
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:59,300
I don't have a cool story or
anything for you, but I'll

500
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:01,900
happily be your first first fan
email.

501
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,700
Yeah.
And yeah.

502
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,300
Have her come on the Boost.
Our egos.

503
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,900
Yeah.
Tell us how great we are.

504
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:11,600
Yeah, Jeremy was like what do
you want to talk about?

505
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,600
The rest is history.
What about you Katie?

506
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:30,699
You know, I honest.
We believe there's a bunch of

507
00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:33,400
lake monsters especially
depending on how deep the like,

508
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:37,100
is that Mike, I don't care if
it's lockness, I know there's a

509
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:42,000
whole thing but we have a lake
that has the submarine base

510
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:45,300
right up from us and it's like
what the hell are they up here

511
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:48,500
for when it's one of the deepest
lakes and Idaho like?

512
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:56,900
Well, there's a theory that the
pond or a lake connects to the

513
00:34:56,900 --> 00:35:06,100
Pacific Ocean via Cave System
you don't pour too.

514
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,200
That's where the Godzilla eggs
are how easy I believe.

515
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:23,400
Yeah.
I believe they have to be.

516
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:30,800
I mean, like I said, I'm just
hanging out just waiting for

517
00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:33,700
things to open up and come up.
There's something down there

518
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:38,400
that doesn't want us to find it.
I do think I have a thing with

519
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:46,000
the ocean.
I'm not gonna argue with that.

520
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,300
That's that's, that's enough for
me.

521
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,000
Yeah, you definitely gotta hear
that Loop and Julie, sounds

522
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,600
thing.
We talk about some like black

523
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,300
spot that was caught captured on
satellite.

524
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:58,800
That was it's like the size of
an aircraft carrier underneath

525
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,700
the water.
It's frickin nuts.

526
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,500
Thanks Megan.
All right.

527
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,300
Well, we have one minute left
here, so we're going to go ahead

528
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:14,900
and shut down and move on over
to the next recording.

529
00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:18,900
Anybody listen to this, sorry
for the break, but we got to do

530
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:20,600
it again, dude.
All right.

531
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,600
And I'll be taking care of an
editing who cares?

532
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,500
Yeah.
What's the question again?

533
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:32,500
All right so we had to shut down
restart a little bit because

534
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:35,800
we're recording on Zoom right
now instead of our typical

535
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,900
platform.
So Zoom only gives us about 40

536
00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:42,000
40 minutes of recording before
we get to shut down and restart.

537
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,200
We were just having a
conversation as we were waiting

538
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,300
for Jake.
Come back from, you know, use

539
00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:52,200
the little girl's room.
We Katie asked the question

540
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,400
because we were talking about
Bigfoot and And the sounds that

541
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,800
were in the video that they sent
us and she asked the question,

542
00:36:58,808 --> 00:37:02,700
is another thing that Bigfoot is
known to mimic sounds of other

543
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,200
creatures and it's true.
It is absolutely true.

544
00:37:05,207 --> 00:37:08,300
This is something that that has
been a fear Theory.

545
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:11,900
I would say Theory because
because one of my really good

546
00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:13,900
friends.
Jeffrey Fernandez, who is also a

547
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,300
host, has this podcast will say
without without a, without a

548
00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:20,700
specimen actually captured.
We can't prove it, which is

549
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,000
true, right?
But there has been a lot of

550
00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:27,200
Research into the topic.
And a lot of researchers that

551
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,400
have found that Bigfoot, use a
lot of bird calls a lot of

552
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,600
whistles, a lot of clicks, a lot
of slapping on trees.

553
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:38,300
And then yes, there has been
some recordings of just like

554
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:42,700
this really weird how that
sounds like, it's trying to

555
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:49,200
mimic a coyote, or a lot of
diurnal bird calls at night,

556
00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:50,800
right?
Where it's just like, why are

557
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,900
why are we hearing this specific
bird call at night?

558
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,600
Right?
And a lot of nocturnal bird

559
00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:01,000
calls like owl Hoots during the
day and not necessarily on

560
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,500
point.
You're like wow, that's either a

561
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:06,800
really sick bird or, you know,
that's just a one-off time.

562
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,900
Where this thing has a cold and
now it's hooting in the middle

563
00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:15,000
of day or its Bigfoot, trying to
mimic, and do its thing.

564
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
You know, we've gone into a
couple times here on the show

565
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,900
about how Bigfoot have these
communities that they, that they

566
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,000
surround right?
You have The females and the

567
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,800
children and the middle.
And then you have these

568
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:33,900
stationary kind of big Burly,
males out standing guard.

569
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,900
I mean if anybody that served in
the military knows about

570
00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:42,700
standing watch or guard can't
even say that ever again Watch

571
00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:53,100
how dare you.
I'm also ate Jake now and how

572
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,400
they'll communicate?
With different kinds of animal

573
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,700
calls.
So yes you know.

574
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,000
So that's something that you
know I would like to see if

575
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,500
maybe you guys can can kind of
catch on to while you're out

576
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:07,900
there.
You know, if you're getting

577
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:10,500
those kind of Screams, you're
going to be getting something,

578
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:13,700
something's going through there,
I'd be interested to see if

579
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:16,200
around the same time, frame with
the year, they're around there

580
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:21,000
because you know, there's a lot
of people No.

581
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,900
No, I didn't think about that.
Oh yeah.

582
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:38,500
And it's like especially like
for summertime and that's when

583
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:52,000
we see that would be interested
to know.

584
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,600
Comes out here and 9:00 at
night.

585
00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:02,300
And I'd be, I mean, these things
have been spotted in all 48 are

586
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:06,900
all 49 Mainland States, right?
So including Alaska, every

587
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:09,600
single state of the Mainland.
These things have been spotted

588
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,000
on and if you if you watch the
progressions, you can see that

589
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,600
there is a clear path in which
they follow seasonally, you

590
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,700
know, they had south in the
winter and they had North.

591
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:21,800
And in the summer they have like
it.

592
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:23,400
Chill Lee.
They don't like it hot.

593
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,600
They don't like cold unless
you're talking about Regional

594
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,200
variants such as the Swamp ape
or the woodbooger, you know,

595
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,400
definitely pay attention Unity.
Well the Eddies that's that's a

596
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:40,100
Himalayan creature.
That is China or over an infant

597
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:45,700
but one thing to be like the
yetis I think of a Yeti as more

598
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,700
of the snow.
Not so much like big but here,

599
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,100
yeah, we it's not real source of
but especially having a laugh.

600
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:57,400
Got words, 90% snow 90% of the
time, would that not?

601
00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,100
Hmm.
No, I don't think so.

602
00:41:00,500 --> 00:41:02,700
No, I don't think so.
You gotta think of bears, right?

603
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:04,400
Brown bears.
Do the exact same thing.

604
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,700
Now you get grizzly bears up in
the Upper Canada and the

605
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,600
Northern parts of Alaska and
everything that are just giant

606
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,200
freaking monsters.
These things are beasts right

607
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,800
and they're much bigger than the
brown bears.

608
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,400
They're down here in the United
States.

609
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,800
The ones like we see here in the
United States.

610
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,100
I mean, they're scary, they're
big know, you don't want to go.

611
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,400
Near him.
But you ever go see a brown bear

612
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,800
up in Alaska or in Canada.
It's like a Kodiak.

613
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,700
Yeah, you're like, holy shit.
That thing looks like it's butt

614
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:40,200
hole up here.
And, you know, just, just be saw

615
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,200
a Grizzly Lacher when we were
camping.

616
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:47,400
Yeah.
Very, very remote oil, Lane,

617
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:50,900
scariest drive up there and we
saw this bear.

618
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:54,600
We're on cliffs, like We're on
clips and we just see this thing

619
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,900
coming friendly fucking Derek's
like, is that a fucking dollar

620
00:41:56,900 --> 00:42:00,900
was like, no.
That's a fucking mayor and was

621
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:05,100
big, it was fucking huge and
they're just Dope Up The Cliff

622
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:09,100
or were like, oh good.
That's gonna say you guys did

623
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:14,300
the American thing is he took
care of itself?

624
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:20,800
Yeah.
So I mean, if you're asking me

625
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,800
I'm just a Desktop research for
me and I, you know, I haven't

626
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,000
really spent a lot of time out
in the woods doing it.

627
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,200
I've done a little bit but not
much not nearly as much as I

628
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,300
would.
I would love to do.

629
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:35,400
But from what I can study from
right here with the books that I

630
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,400
have over here in my my library
and, you know, the stuff I can

631
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,500
look up online, I mean, there's
a lot of sources out there, a

632
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:44,700
lot of people are tracking these
things.

633
00:42:44,700 --> 00:42:51,400
If you look at Jeff meldrum's
cast collection, you know, he he

634
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:55,700
tracks Visuals with scars like
certain scars on their feet,

635
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:58,900
that show up across different
state lines, like these things

636
00:42:58,900 --> 00:43:02,200
move, they move, they're not
stationary creatures.

637
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,500
I mean, you'd think about how
many times do you see a brown

638
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:07,000
bear?
Like don't mean those things are

639
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,000
very secluded, right?
You don't ever see a brown bear

640
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:13,600
like very but what you have is
pretty rare.

641
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,100
I mean there's some people that
you know live within the

642
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:19,100
territory of a brown bear and
they see him you know here and

643
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:23,000
there but think of think of it
like Like this, with the

644
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,600
population as low as it is with
brown bears, right?

645
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:32,300
We're seeing Bigfoot even less.
So there's either there's either

646
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:35,700
a bit of intelligence or there's
low population or there's both,

647
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,300
right?
And these things are migratory.

648
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:41,000
If you think with your
circumstance, they are migrating

649
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,900
with the blueberries, right?
Yes.

650
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,100
And that's one thing that I
found out, because I had my

651
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:49,400
experience in the spring in
Northern New England.

652
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:53,600
And it just happened to be that
the Team time that I was there

653
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,500
was the same as that time, that,
that state was going through its

654
00:43:57,500 --> 00:44:01,700
blueberry blue.
And, you know, you get the Bears

655
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:04,500
and everything will come out,
get the blueberries and

656
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:08,600
apparently soda Sasquatches.
So the bigfoots so, you know,

657
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,800
that's something that I would be
interested for you guys.

658
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,100
To kind of keep an eye out for
to not only look for the time

659
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,600
that there's, that they're
heading south, you know, give or

660
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,000
take a month from the time frame
that you guys saw.

661
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:23,900
Also, you know, on the other Of
the coin to pay attention in the

662
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:26,400
spring.
When everything is starting to

663
00:44:26,408 --> 00:44:28,700
bloom and everything, you start
getting all those wild berries

664
00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:31,600
to blackberries raspberries and
all that other good stuff and

665
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,100
see if you can't hear anything,
man.

666
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,100
Be interesting.
Well Mom and Dad might have some

667
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:42,800
interesting things down wiper.
Maybe I know up in the

668
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,500
mountains.
We never even paid attention.

669
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,600
What's going on down there?
Like road trip.

670
00:44:49,700 --> 00:44:59,100
Yeah.
Desolated population of maybe a

671
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:04,900
couple hundred people and they
have access to thousands and

672
00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:08,800
thousands of thousands of
Forestry behind them.

673
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,700
So you go up there, there's
nothing up there, belonging

674
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:15,600
somewhat logging roads, but
other than that you have no

675
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,200
homes.
You have legit.

676
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,100
Nothing.
There's tons of huckleberries

677
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:21,900
and blueberries and raspberries.
Yeah.

678
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,600
Man.
Oh yeah.

679
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:29,800
So I think about that.
Might have to do that next.

680
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:34,000
This next year, I would I feel I
would think we'll send you guys

681
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,500
something.
Hell yeah, I mean, I would be

682
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:38,600
setting up microphones all
through the woods man.

683
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:50,400
Same trail cameras.
Jeff bottles of peanut butter

684
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,800
through the woods.
People think he's a fucking

685
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,600
peanut butter.
Someone coming into town, just

686
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,000
stealing peanut butter and go
ahead Into the Woods.

687
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:24,600
I smell peanut butter.
Good stuff.

688
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:35,300
Yeah, so now that they I think
that would be interesting.

689
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,600
Sorry, no you're good.
This is this is the kind of

690
00:46:39,607 --> 00:46:41,300
conversations I love to have
guys.

691
00:46:41,300 --> 00:46:44,800
I love it Derek.
So when you emailed us to kind

692
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,200
of move on to the next topic
here, you said that you had some

693
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,500
other paranormal experiences.
Do you mind expanding on that?

694
00:46:54,100 --> 00:47:06,700
No, I have no problem. so when I
told you it was this old castle

695
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:12,600
grounds in Okinawa or whatever
and the lore behind it was

696
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:21,300
fairly construction of the
hotel, the okinawans would have

697
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:25,400
experiences, they would have
here girls screaming and all

698
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,600
this so they Pretty much all
those were just like, I'm, I'm

699
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,700
done.
We're not going to work on this

700
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:32,100
like a program.
And then, there was this Air

701
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:33,900
Force guy, that was driving down
the road.

702
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:41,400
He heard a girl scream come from
that abandoned Hotel area and he

703
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,400
called authorities.
He's everything.

704
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,700
And he picked by the local
authorities.

705
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:50,200
Brought back to the base, had
his car towed to the base and

706
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,300
was told never gonna see again.
So when we go over there, we

707
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,400
stores from the on the base,
everything and we're like, okay,

708
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:04,000
let's take a look at this area.
So we ended up driving up their

709
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:08,900
product like 9:30 10:00 at
night, and we had a hop, a

710
00:48:08,908 --> 00:48:11,600
chain-link fence.
We were walking in.

711
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,500
We missed anything in here,
anything.

712
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:18,500
And then, when we were in there,
we her heard a little girl, like

713
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:23,100
a noise, a little girl would
make So we're like okay this is

714
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:25,900
really weird a couple hours ago,
I didn't hear anything else like

715
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:28,200
that.
So we're like, okay, let's head

716
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,100
back.
Let's go back to base or

717
00:48:29,107 --> 00:48:31,100
whatever.
So as we were walking this road,

718
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:35,800
it was like a windy road and
there was a tree, limb hangover

719
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:40,900
off the side of the road.
I was the second-to-last first

720
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:46,700
in line and find me and him and
I both heard something running

721
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:52,900
up behind us and then stop.
He Um's on me, I turn around and

722
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:55,300
we don't see anything, but we
look up the road and that this

723
00:48:55,300 --> 00:49:00,200
tree branch.
There's two legs standing on the

724
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,200
opposite side like tentacles,
just like straddling the tree

725
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,200
branch so we can to sit there
for a little bit but they and

726
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,700
then all of a sudden it just
disappears and then we double

727
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:13,400
time very much out of that whole
entire little area.

728
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:17,000
Just like a military member.
You hear about some crazy

729
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,300
demonic stuff.
It was stuff up the road and

730
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:23,800
let's do it.
Let's go.

731
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,200
No, I don't know much about
paranormal stuff when it comes

732
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,900
down to ghosts and spirits and
everything, that's something

733
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:37,200
that we lacked here on the show
that we just didn't have anybody

734
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,200
really specializing in, so we
didn't cover it very much.

735
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:47,300
But from what I do know that the
And of Japan has quite a bit of

736
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,400
some, some paranormal
experiences.

737
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:55,000
I know.
Northern Japan has a lot, a lot

738
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
more than Southern Japan.
Like Okinawa.

739
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,100
Okinawa is down in southern
Japan.

740
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:04,100
But when you get down up to like
Okie Gaara, which is the suicide

741
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:08,400
forest, it's about, you know
that it's.

742
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,200
But I think that's like almost a
day or two days.

743
00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:19,100
Worth of travel by car, you
know, it's a pretty long trip

744
00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,500
from Okinawa if you were to go
straight through.

745
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:25,600
I think it's about two day trip.
When you get up there into the

746
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,700
hills, you know, because okay
got Hora surrounds, a an old

747
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:38,500
volcano and the ground itself is
actually all volcanic Stone and

748
00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:42,600
the trees that grow out of it.
The Roots can't even grab into

749
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:44,300
the ground.
So all the roots.

750
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:50,800
Kind of built on top of the lava
stone that's there and there's a

751
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,600
bunch of tunnels like pits that
just fall down, block people

752
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,700
that just go in there just to
explore it end up actually Dying

753
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:00,500
by falling into these giant
holes.

754
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:06,400
So you not only do you have this
whole thing about like people

755
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,700
committing suicide there on an
absolutely massive scale but you

756
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:12,700
also have people that died
there.

757
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:16,300
Accidentally just by trying to
do some research in the, for

758
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:19,000
until like a lava shoot.
Yeah, that's what exactly what

759
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,400
it is.
Don't they have like signs and

760
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,500
everything everywhere that says
if you need help please call

761
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:27,300
this number.
If you're exploring be very

762
00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:31,000
careful where you step they do.
And that's just, that's the kind

763
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:35,900
of stuff that Japanese culture
just has, you know, and it's

764
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:38,800
superstitious as well.
Very, very superstitious.

765
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,700
And I believe, you know, if we
had CJ on still, CJ would tell

766
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:46,700
you that.
You know, most likely I'm not

767
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:50,500
trying to put words in the CJ's
mouth or anything but that the

768
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:54,700
island of Japan, there's more
topas there than anything.

769
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,400
You know, a lot of people have
these oh yeah, beliefs that

770
00:51:59,500 --> 00:52:03,800
there's these, this paranormal
two entities, these ghosts and

771
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,700
spirits that live within the
realm of Japanese folklore and

772
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:13,100
legends and stories mythologies
that a lot of them actually do

773
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:16,300
come true.
Due to the tulp effect.

774
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:20,500
Now, I don't know anything about
Okinawa.

775
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:22,700
I've never been.
I know a bunch of people that

776
00:52:22,700 --> 00:52:27,500
have been but I wish I had more
to expand on.

777
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:28,900
That it's freaking awesome
story.

778
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:32,500
Like Jake said, it's just like a
service member to hear something

779
00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:35,300
that could possibly kill you and
just go do it.

780
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,500
Exactly.
And that's where I first.

781
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:53,700
Had my other Derek.
Yeah.

782
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,800
And like, that's where I had my
first sleep paralysis experience

783
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:03,100
and anything before that, like a
phantom.

784
00:53:03,100 --> 00:53:07,000
So glad I don't have to me and
it was the craziest thing in the

785
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,800
world.
Sleep paralysis is nuts, man.

786
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:17,300
It's that's that's Topic.
I wish we visited again,

787
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:19,800
hopefully, in the future.
We can revisit because there's

788
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,800
a, there's a lot of information
that I didn't put out in an

789
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,900
episode that I know.
Now, I would love to experience

790
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:29,000
all that.
But yeah, man, what kind of

791
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,600
weird shit?
I mean, have you seen anything

792
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:32,800
during your sleep paralysis
episodes?

793
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,300
That was like, honestly, I only
had one of them and that was

794
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:43,300
while I was over there and I
there was a there, was someone

795
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,500
sitting like sitting on my chest
just looking at my face on a

796
00:53:47,500 --> 00:53:48,300
demon.
Yeah.

797
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:51,200
The old hag, everything leading
up to it.

798
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:58,300
Like so I was in a room that I
was all alone and like the way

799
00:53:58,300 --> 00:53:59,000
it was.
Weird.

800
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,900
Stopped fucking sink.
You have a head.

801
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:08,200
Ed or a door or Joy goes into
the head that shares a door with

802
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,000
the other bedroom and then you
walk around and then you can

803
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:15,000
like get into the actual room.
So the night the happened, I had

804
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,100
locked on my doors, I was
getting ready to hit the sack

805
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,600
and as I was laying down, I
heard my door open, but I was

806
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,100
like the doors locked, so I set
up the door was still locked.

807
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:31,800
And then the way boss like my
thick pen around a wall, that

808
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:36,800
was by the sea.
And then I felt something grab

809
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,200
my foot.
After I had checked the door and

810
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,300
everything, I felt something
grab my foot and kind of start

811
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,300
trying to pull me down around
the bed.

812
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:46,900
And I was like, what the hell is
going on?

813
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:49,300
So I set up again and nothing
was going on and there was

814
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:52,600
nobody in the room, I had door
was locked, my front door was

815
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,600
locked and then I lay down again
and then all of a sudden I

816
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,500
couldn't move, I couldn't
breathe.

817
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:03,200
I couldn't scream or anything.
And I opened my eyes.

818
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,400
There was something sitting on
my chest and I was screaming for

819
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,300
the person next door to come
into the bedroom, but I couldn't

820
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:11,300
say anything.
And then all of a sudden, I

821
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:15,300
broke out and I was able to yell
and he came banging on that head

822
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:18,600
door to see what was going on
and it was nuts.

823
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,700
How it went on, you were
sleeping on your back.

824
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:22,800
Double slip out the back.
Yeah.

825
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,600
Oh man.
So there's like three or four

826
00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:30,100
common experiences when it comes
to sleep.

827
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:31,500
Paralysis.
Just put a little bit of

828
00:55:31,508 --> 00:55:33,300
information out there for those
that are listening.

829
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,700
If you haven't listened, to the
old sleep paralysis episode that

830
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:41,500
we did, one of the most common
experiences is the old hag.

831
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:45,200
And that is, that's what you
experienced, you know, you feel

832
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,900
that pressure on your chest and
also you look and there's this

833
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:52,900
black, almost hazy looking thing
sitting on your chest and you

834
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:54,900
can feel it, you can feel it
sitting on your chest.

835
00:55:54,900 --> 00:56:01,000
It's called the old hag.
It goes by other names in other

836
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:06,000
cultures but if ADI out there
wants to do more research on to

837
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,900
it.
That's what you want to look at

838
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:09,100
you.
Want to look at the old hag

839
00:56:09,100 --> 00:56:11,300
phenomenon.
Very, very cool.

840
00:56:11,500 --> 00:56:16,700
So is It's like is that an
outer-body experience?

841
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,800
No, sleep paralysis is
completely inner body experience

842
00:56:21,700 --> 00:56:23,700
there.
There is a lot of outer body

843
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:27,700
experiences that you can have
during sleep such as astral

844
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:32,600
projection or a kind of a
mixture of the two, which is

845
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,600
lucid dreaming, you can I do.
Yeah, technically, you're still

846
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,400
inner body but you can go
anywhere within your dream

847
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:43,800
world.
Now, sleep paralysis is Lee

848
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,000
internal, sometimes.
One of the experiences from

849
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,000
sleep paralysis, you kind of
feel like you're floating and

850
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,700
you're floating up towards your
ceiling.

851
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,800
That's as far out of body
experience that you get from

852
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,800
from sleep paralysis, but there
are plenty.

853
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,700
Okay, a lot more than what I
just explained when it comes to

854
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:05,700
out-of-body experiences while
you're sleeping too.

855
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:12,000
So that is just as I was getting
the kids ready for a shower.

856
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,500
But anyways, right?
To, I've had two weird

857
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:19,700
experiences to life where I
don't know if it was Iowa's in

858
00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:25,500
like super deep Grim sleep.
And when was that car?

859
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:31,800
And it fell asleep, so hard to
where I remember me seeing my

860
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,800
mom because this is when I was
little and not driving, she was

861
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,700
banging on the window because
went to McDonald's to get food

862
00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:43,300
when we're on vacation, she was
banging on the window so hard.

863
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:46,900
And I was trying to say
something like, scream and yell,

864
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:50,600
like I couldn't open the door
and then all the sudden like all

865
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:55,700
of a sudden I get this and I
wake up and then happen, pretty

866
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:59,700
much twice.
The second time it happened, I

867
00:57:59,700 --> 00:58:05,600
saw myself having a seizure on
my bed or my floor, whichever

868
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,600
one it was and then something
woke me up.

869
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,300
I don't know exactly what woke
me up, but something woke me up.

870
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:17,900
Which was a and those are the
only two that the seizure one is

871
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:21,000
a common experience.
That is definitely a very common

872
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,600
out-of-body experience that a
lot of people experience during

873
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:26,500
a seizures.
I mean, it's not as common as

874
00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:30,300
like, you know, one out of 10.
I'd say, more of one, out of 51

875
00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:32,500
out of 100 people who
experienced seizures.

876
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,500
Probably have a seizure.
Yeah, it's it's strange and he

877
00:58:38,508 --> 00:58:42,400
never never.
Yeah, you know, you never had It

878
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,200
had a seizure.
You just say experience like

879
00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:48,200
weird.
It is the weirdest thing I

880
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,700
watched myself have a seizure
and I've never had a seizure in

881
00:58:51,707 --> 00:58:53,900
my life.
Wow it's all right.

882
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:56,300
I see myself dreaming in her
person all the time.

883
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:59,500
It just rips you out for a bit.
That's it.

884
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:09,400
I got one too.
I'm sorry.

885
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,900
What was your question?
Don't like I literally saw it.

886
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:29,100
So I just want to say I
apologize.

887
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:31,300
We're getting like every third
word, you're saying.

888
00:59:32,700 --> 00:59:34,700
So it's kind of it's a little
difficult to make out what

889
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:41,000
you're trying to ask it but It
you know I'm sorry I don't mean

890
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:47,800
to be rude or anything.
We are we're we're about eight

891
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,600
minutes away from it, kicking us
off.

892
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,900
Now I'm going to go ahead and
add about five minutes.

893
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:58,700
Start closing this out.
Is there anything that you guys

894
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:01,600
would like, to talk about ask or
anything along those lines?

895
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,700
Jake kinds, are you guys too?
I know I've talked a lot during

896
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:08,700
this, this recording here.
So I want to make sure you guys

897
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:13,100
all get it, get a chance to.
I just want to quickly say that

898
01:00:13,100 --> 01:00:15,400
that was a really, really cool
video.

899
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:19,500
It gave me chills.
I had to show my roommate and it

900
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:23,900
gave him chills that.
Thank you for sending that

901
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:26,400
video.
It was super, super cool to

902
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,600
listen to.
And I'm going to probably go

903
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,600
listen to it, like, 20 more
times after.

904
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:36,300
This is spread it around.
I mean, it's nice to have other

905
01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:39,500
people who Who understand what
we went through.

906
01:00:39,900 --> 01:00:42,800
Like, and when we experience
like I said, it's nice to have

907
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,200
people that are not going like,
oh well, just a somebody call

908
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,100
lovable whatever.
It's nice to have people that

909
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,800
believe what we believe in.
You know what I mean?

910
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,400
Like that was the original
concept of the show.

911
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,500
Yeah.
Dad.

912
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:04,000
Yeah.
Like we never edited it, we

913
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,600
never did anything but that's
what we recorded.

914
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,600
And that's what we've had on our
phones for two years.

915
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:12,700
That's so cool.
I think that it's so unique

916
01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:15,700
because we've had people come on
that have had these sorts of

917
01:01:15,700 --> 01:01:18,000
strange experiences like that.
But you're the first ones that

918
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,800
have hit us up with a, you know,
something we could actually

919
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,600
listen to and just be like this
is what we experienced right and

920
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,400
a, I mean told you right away.
It was exactly what I

921
01:01:27,408 --> 01:01:30,800
experienced when I was camping.
I didn't know how to really

922
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,100
explain it and stuff when I
heard that I was like this is

923
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:35,300
what I heard, you know.
And yeah, yeah.

924
01:01:35,308 --> 01:01:36,800
I mean you guys totally pulled
it out.

925
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:39,400
I'm glad that we were able to
get you on even with the spotty

926
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,000
signal and all that stuff.
Tough.

927
01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:43,100
Getting you on, chatting about
it and stuff.

928
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:45,800
It's been a really cool episode.
I appreciate you guys hanging

929
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:49,200
out with us.
I'm really appreciate.

930
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,700
It's been fun.
We appreciate you guys having us

931
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:54,600
on and thank you.
Jeremy for back to me.

932
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,800
I honestly never thought I'd
hear from you, okay?

933
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,900
Because I didn't think I'd get a
response either.

934
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:06,200
I totally understand.
We're just little guys, man.

935
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:11,500
We're not, we're real people,
you know, I we tried which we

936
01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:13,800
put it out on that, because all
the time, reach out to us, reach

937
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,800
out to us, reach out to us and
we just don't get it, you know.

938
01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:21,100
We don't get people that want
to, yeah, but come on the show

939
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:24,300
and talk with us or, you know,
we don't get people that

940
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:26,400
randomly email us with some cool
stuff.

941
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,900
I mean, I do get some some
random.

942
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:35,300
Let me tell you some really
random stuff, but mostly it's

943
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:37,800
like government secrets and
stuff like that.

944
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,500
It's like, dude, I just, you
know, I think I'm sure, if a

945
01:02:39,508 --> 01:02:46,700
Walmart where they're hiding all
the aliens, it's like, yes, some

946
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:50,200
top-secret us.
A government experiment that's

947
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,200
happening in Canada with
cloaking devices for Humvees.

948
01:02:53,200 --> 01:03:04,800
It's like We appreciate, it's
been fun.

949
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,100
Like if we talk about a lot of
stuff all the time, but it's

950
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:15,100
nice being able to talk to other
people that understand where

951
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:17,000
were coming from.
Yeah, we're Christian Believers

952
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,300
and all that.
But the same time, we're not

953
01:03:19,300 --> 01:03:22,400
alone in this world that's out
there that we cannot explain.

954
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:27,400
And it's just, it's fun having
the conversations and talk about

955
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,400
it.
Sure, absolutely, 100% agree

956
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,400
with you couldn't couldn't say
it better myself.

957
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,700
It's just fun.
I mean, No Derek.

958
01:03:37,700 --> 01:03:41,000
Thanks for reaching out man.
Like it really means a lot and

959
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,100
it's a, it's something that Jake
and I originally wanted to do

960
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:47,900
with the show like this show was
not supposed to be what it is.

961
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:54,100
The original concept was talked
about monsters and and and and

962
01:03:54,100 --> 01:03:58,500
eventually completely fade away
from talking about stuff that we

963
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:03,100
research and go strictly to
interviews with people who have

964
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:04,600
had experiences just like you
guys.

965
01:04:04,700 --> 01:04:08,400
And that's what we wanted to do.
And infinite rabbit hole is just

966
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:14,500
become a completely different
monster and you know thank you

967
01:04:14,500 --> 01:04:19,600
so much because this right here
this interview it's got me

968
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,000
motivated man.
I'll tell you it's I love it.

969
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:27,300
I just love you but yeah is
there anything else you guys

970
01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:29,800
want to say motivator?
I'll tell you that much.

971
01:04:29,900 --> 01:04:32,700
Oh no, I get it.
I mean he's a he's a Marine.

972
01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:40,600
Well, what do you guys call us?
Do anyways.

973
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:44,700
All we have to say is we go
camping this year.

974
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:48,600
We find a bunch more shit.
We're sending to you.

975
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:50,300
Hell yeah.
How about that?

976
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,900
We'll have you back on.
If you guys are ever up up in

977
01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:58,000
our neck, and look this up, and
we'll take you camping and go

978
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,000
out, like, the Deep Woods.
Hell yeah.

979
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,500
Like I said, you know, the wife
and I are looking at yourself at

980
01:05:03,500 --> 01:05:05,600
that one place, I don't want.
To say what it is.

981
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,400
Because I don't want people to
know where you're from other

982
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,500
than just saying that you're
from the great state of Idaho.

983
01:05:12,300 --> 01:05:15,000
I, you know, eventually the wife
and I are going to make it out

984
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:19,900
there, I'll make it out there
with my Katie and my, my entire

985
01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:28,100
clan that I have.
And yeah, I'll definitely hit

986
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:30,100
you guys up.
If I ever do make it out there,

987
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:45,700
I'll tell you sure.
It's just fun for me.

988
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:50,600
It gets me back into that whole
realm of what the fuck is out

989
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,500
there?
Good good.

990
01:05:55,300 --> 01:05:57,300
That's awesome.
That's really awesome here.

991
01:05:57,300 --> 01:06:00,500
Because we've been having a
guys, we've been having a lot of

992
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:05,700
really negative reviews lately,
and this is fucking awesome.

993
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:12,900
I appreciate it guys.
I love all the weird crazy like

994
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:17,200
I said, I grew up with that,
that's what I grew up and when

995
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,600
what's one who's won and yeah, I
believe the stuff but they're

996
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:25,000
still shit out there.
That who knows?

997
01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:28,300
Yeah, gosh, I agree.
I couldn't agree more.

998
01:06:28,900 --> 01:06:32,000
All right.
Derek, Katie has been absolutely

999
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,500
fantastic.
Having you guys on, I can't wait

1000
01:06:35,500 --> 01:06:37,500
to hear back from you guys.
Hang tight.

1001
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:40,100
I'm going to shoot you guys an
email.

1002
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,300
Real quick.
After this, I'll leave the

1003
01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:49,700
contents just between us, but I
just want to say thank you so

1004
01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:52,100
much for coming on and sharing
your story.

1005
01:06:52,100 --> 01:06:57,100
Sharing your video, man?
You guys are a part of the

1006
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:01,200
group, right on Facebook.
Yeah for sure.

1007
01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:06,700
Cool I hope that you guys stay
active and you know, I would

1008
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:08,900
love to hear more from you guys.
Thank you so much.

1009
01:07:10,900 --> 01:07:13,600
Thank you guys for having us and
I really appreciate it.

1010
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,100
Nice meeting.
You all nice meeting you too.

1011
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,300
All right, guys, there's been
another episode of the infinite

1012
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:21,500
Roberto podcast.
We'll see you next time.

1013
01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:23,700
I'm next PATH, but the infinite
Rabbit Hole.

1014
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:25,900
Bye everybody.
Bye.

1015
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,700
You guys have to say by you
happy.

1016
01:07:29,900 --> 01:07:30,700
It's the law.