IRH 273: Trump Says "Pretty Serious Stuff" on 10 Dead Scientists & Pentagon Misses Deadline

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On Thursday, April 17th, 2026, a
reporter stood up at the White

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House press briefing and asked
the President of the United

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States whether his
administration was investigating

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the disappearances and deaths of
10 American scientists and

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government contractors connected
to nuclear and aerospace

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research.
Trump's answer was 4 words.

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Quote.
Pretty serious stuff, huh?

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He said he hoped it was random.
He said he had just left the

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meeting on the subject.
He said the country would know

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something in the next week and a
half.

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Three days earlier, the Pentagon
missed its congressional

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deadline to hand over 46
specific classified UAP videos.

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Congresswoman Ann Paulina Luna
posted publicly that nobody at

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the Pentagon had responded to
her office at all until her

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staff followed up.
She said whoever was quote

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trying to be cute at the
Pentagon was about to get

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rolled.
The day after the deadline, the

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Department of War issued a
statement saying it was working

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with the White House to release
quote never before seen UAP

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information.
And the domain alien.gov is

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still dark.
And somewhere in Huntsville, AL,

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authorities are now reviewing
the death of an aerospace

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researcher who spent the last
years of her life warning

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publicly that she was being
surveilled, that things were

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escalating and that she needed
to disclose her work before it

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was too late.
She died in 2022.

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She is now being counted as the
11th person in a pattern that

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the President of the United
States just called pretty

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serious stuff.
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Jake, CJ, what's up, guys?

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That storm today was crazy.
We went down from 70° down to

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like the mid 40s.
The storm rolled in.

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That storm brought in some sort
of stupid because I almost got

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in two head on collisions on my
way home from work today.

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What?
Yeah.

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Just people driving on the wrong
side of the road.

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Literally.
These are two two Lane County

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roads.
Yeah, and people two times, man,

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driving on the wrong side of the
road.

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The first time I'm sitting
there, I'm talking with my wife

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on the phone.
She's on the speaker in in my

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car.
And I just nonchalantly go, I

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almost died.
What are you what are you

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talking about?
Like I almost just gotten a head

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on collision.
She goes.

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You didn't honk your horn.
Yeah, no, I definitely didn't

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think about that.
I was I was white knuckling my

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steering wheel ready to drive
into the the ravine on the side

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of the roof.
I mean.

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It's like.
Today's the day.

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Dude I had one of those just the
other day where I just I saw

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someone look down at their cell
phone and then just cut their

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wheel and start going right into
my lane and there was nowhere to

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go.
It was just a freaking like 8

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foot ditch on my right hand side
and I was like, all right, that

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was it.
And then they they looked up and

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swerved over and I'm just like,
I was like, man, that would have

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been my, my final words.
It's just a deep sign.

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All right then.
I don't know if if anybody's

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been on on rural county roads in
the middle of bum fuck nowhere

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Wisconsin, but every County Road
just has it's just lined with a

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long ravine.
And usually it's it's, it's full

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of dead deer.
Yeah, yeah.

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Oh yeah, they're all unthawed
now.

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Bloating up, Yeah.
Stacking bodies on the side of

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the road.
You know, that kind of reminded

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me, like I try not to be super
impatient when I'm driving.

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Like if someone gets in front of
me and they're going

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particularly slow, like I always
kind of have that thought in the

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back of my head.
I'm like, maybe this is for a

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reason type thing.
I had someone do that to me not

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recently, maybe a month ago, but
they were literally going like

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15 under the speed limit.
And I tried going around and

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there was just cars and just
blind hills and I was like,

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well, I'm guess I'm stuck here.
See, this is how this is how you

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get angry people commenting on
our Youtubes yelling at you.

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Well, and then and then I
eventually got the opportunity.

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I went around and I drive 100
miles a day for work, 50 miles

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each way.
And like halfway through the

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trip, most of my drive is going
through just cornfields.

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There's nothing out there.
There's a house every few miles,

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right?
And like, I don't know when it

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happened, but halfway through my
drive there's a fatal head on

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collision.
And it makes you wonder, it's

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just like, was that supposed to
be for me?

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Like, you know, type stuff?
Was I supposed to be there?

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And then I just got kind of
slowed down and, and made wait

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and made wait for 20 minutes,
you know, type stuff.

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It's like, I don't know.
Man, on my way back from.

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Jersey Today I sat in a almost
hour long traffic jam because a

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state trooper in New Jersey
smacked into somebody and they

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shut the road down for it.
I mean, you just live in a war

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zone.
I mean, you know.

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Oh, I don't live in Jersey.
Are you crazy?

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No, you just drove through.
No, I'm a trucker.

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Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Yeah, yeah, I drive through.

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I'm in Elizabeth Bayonne in
Jersey City every single day.

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Then I come back to Pennsylvania
every.

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Single drive through a war zone.
Well, I mean, I deliver in

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there, so yeah.
I mean, I drive through, I'm

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like, I'm through the whole
cities and everything.

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Yeah, it's it's not great.
Someone got blasted on one of

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the loading docks.
We told us last week that's wow.

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And the only time I've ever been
to Jersey, I was there for a

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Giants game and I tried to pump
my own gas and I got yelled at.

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Which is weird.
I don't know why they do that.

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It's illegal in Jersey to pump
your gas because they're stupid.

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I don't know, they drive that
shit.

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I got stuck on the Jersey
Turnpike for six hours once.

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I'm not going to say that people
in Jersey are stupid.

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They're terrible drivers and
they're assholes, quite a few of

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them.
Well.

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But they're not.
They're not.

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Students lost all the people in
Jersey that listen.

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All three of them, yeah.
There, but their government

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there.
Sucks.

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I mean, if I lived in Jersey I'd
probably be an asshole too.

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Yeah, yeah.
If I lived anywhere near New

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York, I would be the worst
person.

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I'd be, you know what?
You know what?

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Actually, the closer I get to
New York City, the nicer the

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people are.
It's like when I get down in the

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Elizabeth New Work and then out
towards Rahway and Carteret.

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The people there suck, yeah.
Anything else from you 2

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gentlemen?
I'm slowly becoming a my Midwest

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form.
I've got a fleet farm hat on,

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grow my hair out and I ditched
the beard and went for a a

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handlebar mustache.
It's good luck man.

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Halfway hand of our mustache.
Great luck.

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I got to wait for for gardening
season.

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I'm going to Don my overalls.
I yeah, I mean, I have overalls,

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you know, kind of throw my
overalls.

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Don't you have American flag
ones?

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No.
Is that's not you?

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No.
You know somebody who has them.

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Should, but I don't.
Jeremy's going to drive down the

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street when there used to be
Jake on his front porch with a

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freaking like a shotgun.
A double barrel shotgun.

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He's just going to be plucking a
banjo.

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It's.
Going to be like that.

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Gosh, it's a it's a meme now,
but it's like a a short clip

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from the Top Gear show.
And I think it was James and he

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was quitting smoking and he was,
he was wedding with a shotgun

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and he was like, see, the weeds
have ceased to exist.

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You can't guard with a shotgun.
He's like, oh, where's the

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weeds?
That's going to be me out in the

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front yard just blowing freaking
weeds away with a shotgun.

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Lot of Turkey shot leftover.
Can't argue with it.

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All right.
You guys ready to get in the

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quick hits?
Oh yeah.

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All right, before we get into
our main stories tonight, let's

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run through Quick Hits, a rapid
roundup of the stories from the

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last 10 days that deserve your
attention, even if we don't have

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time to go deep on them.
So let's go.

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We covered Tim Burchett's week
extensively in episode 272.

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The Newsmax appearance, TMZ, the
bill to abolish Arrow.

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He didn't slow down.
On April 10th, he sat down with

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Stephen A Smith, who pressed him
directly on the classified

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briefings.
Burchett said a source had come

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in and named names, dates,
people in the meetings and were

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certain where items are located.
He said it was too much, too

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much was going on.
He told Smith he had spoken with

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White House contacts that same
day and was hopeful that some

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things would be coming out soon.
And on OAN shortly after, a host

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asked him point blank, are we
alone?

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Burchett's answer was, quote,
no, we're not.

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We're not alone.
A sitting member of Congress on

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the record, No hedging.
Moving on.

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A study published in Scientific
Reports on April 12th brought

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new analysis to bones from
Belgium's Quick Caves, where

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Neanderthals live between 41,000
and 45,000 years ago.

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For the first time, researchers
were able to build biological

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profiles of the six individuals
who were whose remains were

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found there.
And what they found was

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striking.
All six were women and children,

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and none of them came from the
local group.

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They were outsiders brought in
from elsewhere.

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Their bones have been processed
identically to animal prey.

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They were de fleshed.
The lower limbs were selected,

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the bones broken to extract the
marrow.

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Researchers call this
exocannibalism, the deliberate

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targeting and consumption of
members of a rival group,

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possibly tweaking their
reproductive capacity or assert

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territorial control.
This was happening at the very

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end of the Neanderthal era, at
the same time Homo sapiens were

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arriving in nearby Germany.
Whatever pressure was building

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in those final millennia, the
picture of Neanderthal life

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we're left with is significantly
darker.

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Moving on, interstellar comet
Three Eye Atlas, the third

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confirmed visitor to our solar
system from another star system,

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is continuing to reveal new
information on its way out.

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New observations published April
15th in the Astronomical

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Journal, posted or based on data
from the Subaru Telescope, show

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that the comet's chemistry has
shifted noticeably since it

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passed closest to the Sun.
The ratio of carbon dioxide to

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water in its coma has dropped
significantly, which suggests

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that solar heating has been
stripping away its outer layers

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and exposing material from
deeper inside, material with a

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different chemical makeup than
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The interior of this
interstellar object appears to

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be meaningfully different from
its exterior, which tells us

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something about how it formed in
whatever distant star system it

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came from.
It's now heading towards Jupiter

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and will eventually leave our
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The third interstellar object
we've ever detected, and it's

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still teaching us things on its
way out the door.

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Moving on, For the first time,
scientists have documented the

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complete sequence of a new
impact crater forming on the

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Moon in real time.
NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance

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Orbiter captured before and
after images of the event,

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giving researchers an
unprecedented look at what a

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lunar impact actually looks like
from observation.

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Rather than Ference.
The crater that formed is

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roughly the size of 2 football
pitches.

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The moon has been accumulating
craters for 4 billion years, and

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we've been studying them for
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But watching one appear from
start to finish is something

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that has never been done before.
Moving on.

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And finally, astronomers
announced this week the

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discovery of the most magnified
supernova ever detected.

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The explosion itself happened in
a Galaxy so distant that its

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light would normally be far too
faint for us to reach.

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What made it visible was a
remarkable accident of cosmic

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geometry.
An entire Galaxy sat between the

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supernova and Earth, and that
galaxy's gravity bent and

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amplified light like a natural
lens, boosting the supernova's

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apparent brightness by at least
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The effect is called
gravitational lensing, and it's

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been observed before, but never
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For a stellar explosion.
The result is a window on to the

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death of a star in the early
universe that would otherwise

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have been permanently closed to
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There are things out there that
we can only see because the

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universe occasionally puts its
thumb on the scale.

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So, Jake CJ Burchett saying on
the record that we are not

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alone.
Neanderthals hunting women and

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children of rival groups 45,000
years ago in Belgium.

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An interstellar comment
revealing a different interior

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on its way out of this of our
solar system forever.

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And scientists watching a moon
crater form in real time.

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What's landing with you before
we get into the main stories?

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All of this fake.
None of that space shit

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happened.
Maybe Neanderthals were hunting.

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Or Neanderthals.
Sorry.

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Maybe Neanderthals were hunting
women and children.

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Put some.
Respect on that tall.

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That seems weird though, Like a
like a hominid.

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A hominid going ahead and
hunting women and children.

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Like like even the animal
Kingdom that's not.

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Yeah, chimpanzees do that.
Yeah, but that's like if they're

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wiping out a bloodline so they
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I mean, lions do it too.
Do that, I would say that this

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is.
More like a.

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Group of of but people, because
people still do that today.

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I mean, like, do you think
that's what they were doing?

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Like they were wiping out a
bloodline to like secure their

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own genetics?
Or do you think they were like,

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did it specify if it was like
for sport?

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Like what was the reasoning for
it do they think?

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Hunger.
The the the hunger was upon

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them.
Cannibalism will also be

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bizarre.
So right here, primates commit

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cannibalism primarily for
nutritional gain, to eliminate

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resource competition, or as a
consequence of infanticide.

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Infanticide.
That's when you kill babies.

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It is an opportunist behavior
driven by energy shortages,

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social stress, or way to gain
protein, particularly after

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killing infants, during
competitive conflicts, or when a

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young individual dies from other
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OK, so competitive conflicts
that's they're wiping out a

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bloodline to secure their own
genetics.

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OK, that's what I was asking.
That makes sense.

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But I mean like it would it
would be weird for something

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like a Neanderthal to do it
because they were significantly

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more developed than monkeys.
You know they walk.

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I mean, humans do it though.
Humans do it today, so it's not

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that weird.
Who's wiping out?

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Well, I guess like our
government, Sir Papua.

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Papua New Guinea, there's still
cannibal tribes today.

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Yeah, there's cannibal tribes,
but they're not like wiping out

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bloodlines for the purpose of
securing genetics.

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They're they, they eat after
after a war situation, they eat

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each other.
But like.

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I mean, like honestly, could you
really, could you really put

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like a, a reasoning behind it?
It's like, oh, then it's not

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that bad.
So no, that's not what I'm not.

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I'm not justifying.
What I'm saying is that

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normally, normally when you're
killing women and children, even

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in the animal Kingdom, there's a
reason for it.

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It's not just I feel like
killing women and children

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today, like it's not something
that's normal.

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Well, definitely sounds like a
rivalry base thing.

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I mean, if you're going to
really piss somebody off, how

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are you going to do it?
You're going to go after their

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women and children.
Yeah, I'm, I'm just, I'm just,

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I'm just curious the reasoning
like is it like a more

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primitive, like they were
securing genetics or was it an

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act of war?
Were they punishing somebody?

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Was it?
Forever now.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it
was all of the above, really.

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I wouldn't be surprised.
If it was because it was a

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Tuesday, oh.
Man, So what are the only?

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Reasons coming up.
I was reading this thing that

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said that the only reason we out
survived the Neanderthals is

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because we domesticated dogs and
they didn't.

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I was reading something said
that.

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There's a lot of theories.
Like if we hadn't domesticated

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dogs they would have out
competed us.

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We would have been the ones who
wiped out.

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We're inferior to them in almost
every way.

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Brute strength wise, not
intelligence.

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I was, I said almost every way.
I mean like like survival wise

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and what not.
They were way better at it than

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we were.
We were smarter, but which is

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why we domesticate a dog.
Science looks at the reason why

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we surpassed the Neanderthals as
the reason why brains is better

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than bronze.
It's AI mean.

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Obviously it's not the perfect
answer to that, but that is an

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argument.
Let's get into our first

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briefing.
Last episode, we closed the deep

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dive with April 14th hanging
over everything.

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The congressional deadline, the
46 specific classified videos,

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the Pentagon's consistent answer
of we're working on compliance.

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We said something would happen
on April 14th.

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Here's what happened.
Nothing.

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Not a single video, not a
partial release, not even an

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acknowledgement.
The deadline passed and

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Congresswoman Luna's office
heard nothing until they reached

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out themselves.
When she posted about it on X,

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her language was precise and
pointed.

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She said it appeared the letter
had not been passed to the

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appropriate authorities inside
the Pentagon.

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She called it quote UN quote.
How convenient.

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She said that whoever was trying
to be cute at the Pentagon was

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about to get rolled and that the
footage would still be obtained.

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She also made clear that this
was not Pete Hagseth's call to

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withhold that the president had
authorized the release and that

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someone beneath that level
appeared to be blocking it.

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The day after the deadline, the
Department of War issued a

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statement through Liberation
Times.

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The arrow, it said, is now quote
working in close coordination

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with the White House and across
federal agencies to consolidate

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existing UAP record collections
and facilitate the expeditious

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release of never before seen UAP
information.

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That statement is notable for
two reasons.

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First, it contains the phrase
never before seen, which is a

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meaningful escalation in
language from previous Pentagon

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communications on this topic.
Second, it is the same essential

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answer the Pentagon has been
giving for two months, dressed

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in slightly different words.
Coordinating, consolidating,

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facilitating, working. alien.gov
remains dark.

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The 46 videos remain
undelivered.

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Luna says they're coming.
The Pentagon says it's working.

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And the gap between those two
statements is where the

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disclosure story was living
until about 3 hours ago as of

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our recording time on Friday,
April 17th.

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This is why we're recording a
little late tonight.

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Tonight, speaking at the Turning
Point USA Action conference in

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Phoenix, President Trump told
the crowd, quote, as you

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remember, I recently directed
the secretary of War to begin

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releasing the government files
related to UFOs and unexplained

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aerial phenomena.
You know that this process is

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well underway and we found many
very interesting documents, I

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must say, and the first releases
will begin very, very soon, he

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added.
Quote, you'll figure it out.

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Let me know.
Hey Seth, he confirmed is

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actively working on it.
Quote very, very soon is not a

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date.
Quote many very interesting

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documents is not a release, but
a sitting president standing in

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front of a crowd tonight and
saying the process is well

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underway and the first releases
are imminent is a different

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posture than anything we've had
in writing from the White House

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on this topic.
That just happened tonight and

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we'll be watching for what comes
next.

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Jake.
CJ deadline passed, nothing

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delivered.
Luna saying someone at the

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Pentagon is trying to be cute
and the official response being

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the same coordinating and
facilitating language we've been

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hearing for months.
Where does this go from here as

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CJ just exited?
On CJ there was a bunch of

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screaming and then something
about I saw you driving through

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Jersey and then the screen went
dark.

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I don't know.
Clap, clap, clap.

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Brat.
Oh, he's back from the dead.

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He's back.
Oh, thank goodness.

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My whole my whole thing crashed
while I was trying to look up

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the Neanderthal.
I said that there was a bunch of

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screaming and then someone
screamed out.

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I saw you driving through Jersey
and then the screen went black.

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Oh man.
You know what you remember we

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were talking about last week
where I said that, you know,

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it's like going to see a movie
these days.

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Like tomorrow Whitney and I have
a date night.

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We're going to go see the new
Mummy movie after, get some to

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eat.
And I'll be real with you.

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Like the same, same thing.
Or I'm just like, I'm like, I'm

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not going to get all hyped up
for it because if it sucks, I

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don't want to be disappointed.
I saw that there was nothing

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that came out about it.
And I was like, huh?

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And I went about about my day,
like me at all, because I was

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just like, yeah, just not
expecting anything still.

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I'm in the same exact boat.
Or I'm just like, I'm not going

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to expect anything miraculous to
come out of this because just

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because Trump says it doesn't
mean that everyone in his

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cabinet is going to play ball
with him.

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So I don't know.
We'll see.

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It's definitely one of those
things where we're all like,

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well, that would be pretty cool.
It's not going to happen, but it

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would be cool.
And then when it didn't happen,

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we were like, that's about
right.

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About right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Let's be honest here.
It was expected to end like

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this.
Well, hopefully we do get

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something because I'm, I'm
although I, although I

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understand what you're saying,
Jake and I also feel the same

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way.
I'm tired of being dragged for

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this.
I just want to, I want to hear

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something like stop talking
about if you're if you're not

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going to do it, then just stop
talking about it all.

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Together.
No, of course.

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Like, yeah, I mean, I totally
feel you right there.

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Of course.
Like if, yeah, if you're not

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going to produce, then shut up,
right?

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But.
Well, if they shut up, you'll

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start looking at other things
elsewhere.

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Maybe, yeah.
Yeah, Jews.

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Oh well.
I've we just got this video

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demonetized immediately.
Infiltrated.

457
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,280
I've infiltrated your podcast.
I'm already here.

458
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,880
You guys are screwed.
I've already let the the so and

459
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,840
so's know and they'll be bombing
your OH.

460
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,680
No, fuck is real for real
Massage.

461
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:27,880
Come here and get me.
That's fine.

462
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,320
But fuck is real.
For real.

463
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,360
They don't care about you, CJ.
You're a nobody.

464
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,640
Yeah, but you're, you're our
nobody.

465
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,600
And.
That's why, that's why I get to

466
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,880
say whatever I want.
They don't care about me.

467
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,160
They're like.
Fucking CJ They're.

468
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,120
Probably like they're probably
like fuck you too.

469
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:42,640
They're probably listening to my
thing right now.

470
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,640
I'm going to pick up my phone.
This will be a pop up on there

471
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,560
like you need Dicks too.
Well, in many ways we're very

472
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,320
different.
In many ways we're very much the

473
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,800
same.
And I do not share CJ's views.

474
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:57,680
All right, ready for briefing
too.

475
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,480
Well, I did look up, I did look
up the Neanderthal thing.

476
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,880
I I was successful and the
domestication of dogs improved

477
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,080
our ability to hunt, track prey
and transport food which

478
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,120
increased the amount of
resources dramatically for

479
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:18,760
groupthink which allowed us to
drastically out compete

480
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,960
Neanderthals.
And they said that it's not

481
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,360
guaranteed they would have out
competed us had we not

482
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:26,960
domesticated dogs, and that the
dogs alone weren't like the

483
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,320
clincher, but they played a
massive role in obtaining

484
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,640
resources.
I was going to say like I have

485
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,800
dogs and they're useless try
anything other than Husky later

486
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,760
on part and I've I killed 4 deer
this year so I mean.

487
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,800
I I have AI have a Husky if you
want to talk about but then.

488
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,200
Useless.
He's adorable and he's sweet and

489
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,560
you can cuddle with him
sometimes when he's in the mood.

490
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,640
What other?
Yeah, No, if somebody breaks in

491
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,320
this house, like he probably
won't even get up.

492
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,800
Nice.
Still trying to find that book

493
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,520
that I read years ago.
Anyways, are you guys ready for

494
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,160
briefing too?
This is honestly like my my

495
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,000
favorite topic this week.
This is really exciting, we can

496
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:08,920
see.
It in your face.

497
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:11,640
I'm actually.
Hold on a second, CJ just put

498
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,400
out his house as a soft target.
Everyone just just a heads up

499
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,080
and CJ.
Said you can rob him with a

500
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:22,280
vacuum cleaner.
And he has a a resin printer and

501
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760
a new wash station.
So if anyone's looking for an

502
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,840
early Christmas gift, soft
target.

503
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,120
That's funny.
On the other hand, negative, you

504
00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:35,440
will not survive the
interaction.

505
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,160
Oh dude, if they broke and
they're like, we're going to

506
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,720
execute you, I'd be so excited.
I'd go get my plastic wrap.

507
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,160
I'd it would look like a whole
Dexter execution room.

508
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,200
I'd be like I've been waiting
for.

509
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Ditory in there, just get down.
Here we go guys.

510
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,960
I'm ready.
Man this episode got dark.

511
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080
Anyways, yeah, yeah, we're bad.
We're bad people.

512
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,520
All right.
Quantum Week.

513
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,640
All right.
Second briefing tonight, and

514
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,760
this one is a little different
from our usual lane, but I think

515
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,400
it belongs here and I'll tell
you why in a moment.

516
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,320
On April 14th, 2 separate
announcements landed within

517
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,240
hours of each other that
together represent something

518
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,320
genuinely significant in the
history of computing.

519
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,760
The first was from Ion QA
Quantum computing company based

520
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,800
in College Park, MD, in
partnership with Air Force

521
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,200
Research Laboratory, the same
institution that appears

522
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760
repeatedly in the missing
scientists stories that we've

523
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,040
been covering.
Ion Q announced that it had

524
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:41,440
successfully photonically
interconnected 2 independent

525
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,680
trapped ion quantum computing
systems.

526
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,240
In plain terms, 2 separate
quantum computers physically

527
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,520
apart from each other, were
linked using individual photons,

528
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,680
single particles of light, to
create a quantum entanglement

529
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,240
between them.
The processors could then share

530
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,960
computational work across the
connection.

531
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,000
Ion.
Q called it the first

532
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800
demonstration of connected
commercial quantum computers.

533
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,760
Their stock jumped more than 20%
on the news.

534
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,840
The second announcement came
from NVIDIA.

535
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,920
Jensen Hong's company launched a
product called Icing, named

536
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,840
after a landmark mathematical
model from physics, which is the

537
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,560
world's first open source family
of AI models built specifically

538
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:33,400
to calibrate and error correct
quantum computers.

539
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,920
Quantum processors are
extraordinarily sensitive to

540
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,280
noise.
Qubits, the basic unit of

541
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,960
quantum information, are
fragile, and errors accumulate

542
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,920
faster than they can be
corrected by conventional

543
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,920
methods.
Icing uses AI to do that

544
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,080
correction in real time, up to 2
1/2 times faster and three times

545
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,480
more accurately than the current
industry standard.

546
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,480
Jensen Hong described it as AI
becoming, quote, the control

547
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,840
plane, the operating system of
quantum machines.

548
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,080
Here's why I think this belongs
on IRH.

549
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,880
On the same day, the Air Force
Research Laboratory Health

550
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,040
connect to quantum computers
using entangled photons and

551
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:21,480
video gave the world the AI to
run them reliably.

552
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,840
There are no incremental
improvements to existing

553
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,160
technology.
Quantum computers and AI

554
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,480
stabilized quantum hardware are
two of the foundational

555
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,600
prerequisites for the kind of
computing power that currently

556
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,600
exists only in classified
government programs and

557
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,680
theoretical papers.
The fact that both milestones

558
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,800
landed on the same day, one of
them directly tied to the Air

559
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:47,760
Force, is a kind of convergence
this show pays attention to.

560
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,880
You get to decide what it means,
but the week it happened is

561
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,320
worth knowing about.
South Jake CJ 2 Quantum

562
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:01,280
computers networked with light
AI running the error correction

563
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920
in real time.
Both tied to the Air Force

564
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Research Laboratory, both on the
same day.

565
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,480
What do you make of where
quantum computing actually is

566
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,400
right now?
And let me know if you need.

567
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,720
Dude I'm so dumb, like I just I
can't get behind this sort of

568
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,120
stuff because I don't understand
it.

569
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,760
And that's so fucking exciting,
dude, sorry.

570
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,840
What's exciting?
So.

571
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,320
I'm not smart enough.
Or the OK are you?

572
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,040
We've talked about it a lot,
yeah.

573
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,960
I know.
Do you?

574
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,640
Are you familiar with quantum
entanglement?

575
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,920
Yeah.
OK, So you take 2 quantum

576
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,760
particles, right?
And you can separate them by any

577
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,960
distance that we can measure.
OK, Theoretically, we can put

578
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,880
one of them on the moon and one
of them down here in my basement

579
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,240
and I can flick one, the one
down here with me and then the

580
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,920
other one would react to that.
And that's just a physical,

581
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,040
something physical happening to
it.

582
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:10,000
But it there's been a lot of
theoretical work happening where

583
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,120
we could use this for
instantaneous informational

584
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:21,200
travel or sharing.
So we can send a photon, one of

585
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:26,000
these particles right in.
In this particular story, the

586
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,160
particles were photons that were
entangled.

587
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,520
So we can send one of those
photons across the Galaxy and we

588
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:38,240
can instantaneously update it
with information or communicate

589
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,840
with it with information by
applying that force to the one

590
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,600
that's with us.
So instead of having to travel

591
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,720
light years somewhere, right,
and spending that amount of time

592
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,200
to travel, if we can somehow
think of it like sending an

593
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,440
e-mail here from here to Japan,
it's instantaneous as far as we

594
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,440
know, right?
Well, this would be like sending

595
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,680
anything that we want from one
particle to the other.

596
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,720
We can.
We don't have to travel the

597
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,120
distance to put the particle
there.

598
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,000
You do, you do.
That's what our super

599
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,880
positioning is.
Or I was going to say, I mean,

600
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240
there's a there's a lot of
things in the quantum world

601
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:27,440
where you can skip all that, OK,
We can, no matter how we get it

602
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,760
there, OK, because I'm not going
to go down that path.

603
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:34,640
That's a really long path.
But once it's there, say it's on

604
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,920
an alien planet somewhere and
this has been a theory that's

605
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,000
gone around in UFO circles for a
very long time, is that

606
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:47,880
potentially UFOs are just
enlarged quantum material where

607
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,640
really all they are are
surveillance drones where

608
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:58,480
they're controlling them on a
planet in a galaxies away, but

609
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,400
they're controlling them in real
time and viewing us in real

610
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,800
time.
They're not having to wait.

611
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,920
Like let's say we looked at A at
that same planet through a

612
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:14,560
telescope, we would see it 67
billion light years or 67

613
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,159
billion years away because it
takes 67 billion light years to

614
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,199
get here.
Now that's a really, really

615
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:22,639
large number.
That's not that's.

616
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,280
You'd literally be looking into
their past so far that.

617
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:28,639
Ignore that number.
It was a really bad number to

618
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,679
choose.
All right, let's go 50 light

619
00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:34,360
years away.
But if we can get a, a, a

620
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,760
quantum entangled particle there
and build off that or send

621
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,920
something that's quantumly
entangled, if we can take the

622
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,280
quantum level and turn it into
the micro level and then turn

623
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,719
that into the macro level and
then send those away, we can do

624
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,159
whatever we, I mean, there's,
there's theoretics saying with

625
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,360
shipping, right?
If we can send solid mass to

626
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:04,560
across quantum particles, let's
say everyone has a quantum, a

627
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,720
macro quantum particle.
So a quantum particle that was

628
00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:11,000
turned into the macro size in
their house.

629
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,040
And Amazon goes, hey, what do
you want?

630
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:14,920
And you're like, man, I want
some lipstick.

631
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,000
And you hit that buy button and
all of a sudden, boom, it's

632
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,360
right there.
It's in your quantum entangled

633
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,200
mailbox.
Boom, just like that as soon as

634
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,000
you hit.
The only problem is they haven't

635
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,040
been able to figure out how to
do that with anything more than

636
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,960
like a few molecules I believe
or a few atoms.

637
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,000
But it's actually they're
they're working on it, they just

638
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,040
have no idea what the size.
Limitation is I don't think they

639
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,880
have done any of that yet.
This is like a this is a huge

640
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,480
breakthrough thing right here.
OK, to to quantumly entangle 2

641
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,200
computers and have them share
computing power between the two

642
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,520
of them is incredible.
This is the, this is the first

643
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,960
time that we've actually been
able to do this stuff.

644
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,360
You know, like these, these two
quantum computers were working

645
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:07,920
on the same same problem and
passing information back and

646
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,080
forward to each other, not as if
they were two separate entities,

647
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,840
but as if they were the same
entity working on the same

648
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,360
thing.
Right.

649
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:20,600
So right now, as of early 2026,
the largest known superposition

650
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,560
was a sodium cluster of roughly
7000 atoms or 8 nanometers.

651
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000
It was observed to be and that.
So yeah, it is.

652
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,240
It's very, very tiny, but it's
more they figured out how to do

653
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:37,960
that with more than what they
originally discovered super

654
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,760
positioning with, with the the
gold foil experiment and all

655
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:44,920
that, which was a single
particle or something like that

656
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,080
if I remember correctly.
So.

657
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:56,160
So super position by the way, is
something in all forms at the

658
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,800
same time and not the same form.
Yeah, but it it, it goes hand to

659
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,000
hand with entanglement, which
is.

660
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,560
So where are normal computers
use bits and quantum computers

661
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,440
use qubits, right?
A bit can either be a yes or a

662
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,720
no.
It's a binary system.

663
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,560
A qubit can be yes and no at the
same time, yes or no, no or yes,

664
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,880
yes and nothing else, or either
of them.

665
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,000
Or it could be just everything
all at once, right?

666
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:32,280
And it's instantaneous matter
are instantaneous computing and

667
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:38,080
they all exist at once.
And, and basically you it's it's

668
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,040
a really long gap to fill
between quantum computing and

669
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,560
quantum.
It's a little easier to explain

670
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,080
the.
Distance a bit is a 0 or a one

671
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:50,560
and a qubit is 010110 or
nothing.

672
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,200
No, it's.
Something to imagine it's like

673
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:56,520
it.
Was the same time and it's

674
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:57,680
beyond magic.
Beyond.

675
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,800
Minor and.
That's why it's cool.

676
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:06,560
My only thing is, OK, so if you
influence 1 and it influences

677
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,520
the other because they're
entangled over, who cares how

678
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,520
long of a distance?
Could be a foot could be 10,000

679
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:19,360
million billion light years,
whatever just because matter can

680
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,080
be influence like that doesn't
mean that you could be you could

681
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,080
view through it.
So it's not like you send a

682
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,680
unless you were like, oh, I'm
going to send a robot out there

683
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,920
and then the robot over here is
interacting with rocks here on

684
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,720
earth.
That doesn't necessarily mean

685
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,120
that they're.
Think about it.

686
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,240
Over there.
Jake, Jake, think about it this

687
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,000
way, man.
Look at our our current

688
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,680
communication technology right
now.

689
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,680
How did that start?
I mean, technically, it's not

690
00:38:47,720 --> 00:38:50,240
just smoke signals, right?
Yeah.

691
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,440
But what, when we finally got
into the technological side of

692
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:59,600
it, it began as audible beeps,
right.

693
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:03,240
Right.
That we can send over space that

694
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:07,200
was looked at at the time as
impossible as something that we

695
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,560
would never figure out.
We would never, ever, ever be

696
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,440
able to have a face to face
conversation while you're

697
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:19,680
sitting in your studio and were
interviewing We're.

698
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,400
Talking CJ in Pennsylvania.
Right.

699
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,320
And we're talking to him in real
time.

700
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,960
This stuff was fiction, OK?
Right, it was even as it.

701
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:33,000
All it all started when we were
talking about, but listen, it,

702
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:37,240
it, it all started with with
sound, OK, Then it gradually

703
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:40,480
moved into information.
That's where we're at right now

704
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,000
in the quantum computing stuff.
We're finally able to move

705
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,600
information across distance when
it comes to quantum and tangled

706
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,720
particles.
That's huge.

707
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,000
We are, we are literally going
along the same path that we did

708
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,360
with the technology that we're
using right now for this

709
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,880
episode, but we're moving it
into the quantum field now.

710
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,760
You can't.
You cannot compare.

711
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,760
Quantum computing to regular
computing because it's, it's,

712
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,760
it's like comparing apples to
oranges.

713
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,960
I, I, I heard this one, this one
thing and it just it, it makes a

714
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,840
ton of sense, right?
So your car or your truck,

715
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,280
right?
Would you Would you take your

716
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,120
truck out into the ocean?
Hell yeah, I would.

717
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,480
No, you wouldn't.
No, No, I wouldn't.

718
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:26,800
No.
Well.

719
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,480
If you if you wanted to
successfully cross the ocean,

720
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,080
you wouldn't right?
If you wanted to successfully,

721
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,800
you use your truck to get from
point A to point B.

722
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,200
But if point A is across a, a
boundary that you can't go, you

723
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,360
need to use a different tool.
You need to use a boat, right?

724
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,880
It's the same thing with
computing and quantum computing.

725
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,520
You cannot say, hey, I'm going
to do this task with, with a

726
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,760
computer, but at the quantum
level, that's not how that

727
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:52,960
works.
Everyone's talking about, oh,

728
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,680
we'll get quantum computers in
our house in our lifetime.

729
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,640
Wrong.
Because you're not going to use

730
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,720
a quantum computer to do the
same thing that you use a

731
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,040
regular computer for.
Like when we're doing this, I'm

732
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,840
on my laptop right now talking
to you guys.

733
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,040
A quantum computer will look at
this task and be like, yeah, no,

734
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,880
that's below me.
I can't do that, right?

735
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,120
You need to make a computer
better.

736
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,200
I I can tell you right now, I
can tell you right now that

737
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,400
eventually in our lifetimes
we're going to be sold things

738
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,600
called quantum computers, but
they're just going to be fucking

739
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,480
computers.
Yeah.

740
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,000
OK, it's going to be like how
we're sold AI, but as it's not

741
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,320
nothing near what?
And it's literally just.

742
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:31,760
A.
It's.

743
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,360
Just a massive Google machine.
That's what AI is right now.

744
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,560
It's a much better refined
Google machine.

745
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,640
Is it actual artificial
intelligence?

746
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,200
No, it is not.
Right.

747
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,240
But how are we getting to the
point or do we have that

748
00:41:47,240 --> 00:41:49,840
technology somewhere?
Yes, I, I do believe that there

749
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,160
is artificial intelligence
somewhere which actively

750
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,680
believes that is alive and is
pushing to stay alive, right?

751
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,800
It will fight for that.
And I think that's dangerous.

752
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,840
We're not going to get into that
right now because we've talked

753
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,400
about that amnesium already on
other shows.

754
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,600
But this is the kind of thing
that we're looking at with

755
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,880
quantum computing is that the
things that we're going to be

756
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,640
able to do with this is beyond
what we can even imagine doing

757
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,960
with our regular laptop.
It's like, it's like handing

758
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:25,160
somebody a Rotary phone and
saying, OK, Facetiming.

759
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,240
You're like, what the fuck are
you talking about?

760
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,960
Facetiming?
We needed a whole different

761
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:34,560
processing everything, hardware,
software, everything.

762
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,280
We needed to do something
completely different in order to

763
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,680
make that happen.
Someone looking someone in the

764
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,240
the 50s or 60s looking at a
Rotary phone and saying, what

765
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:47,000
the fuck are you talking about?
FaceTime you, right?

766
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,920
That's what we're talking about
right now, right?

767
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,840
That's the kind of leap that
we're going to make with a

768
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,160
quantum and it's going to be
even bigger than that.

769
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,760
It's going to be like the the
leap between a Rotary phone and

770
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,720
your cell phone that you can
FaceTime me on is going to be

771
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,800
very minor compared to what a
typical computer can do,

772
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,640
compared to a quantum computer.
What's really going to be

773
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:15,520
exciting is if it follows the
same technological growth trend

774
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,520
that we usually see when like
normally like we, we find one

775
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,120
little thing that could
potentially be a thing.

776
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,400
And instead of having this like
linear growth pattern, we we

777
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,120
grow exponentially.
On on a curve.

778
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,240
Instead of a.
And, and we're, we're just

779
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,960
discovering how the quantum
world works right now.

780
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Like every day we're making
discoveries on this, on the

781
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,600
quantum world.
It is, it is a world that lives

782
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,240
by a completely different set of
laws when it comes to physics.

783
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,240
It does not work the same way
as.

784
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,600
Like it's like supposedly
doesn't it?

785
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:56,360
Like you, It's like a cross
dimensional and and all that.

786
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,760
It's all theoretical right now,
but it it it's definitely

787
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,640
possible.
Because like it solved some

788
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,280
problem that would have took us
millions of years or something

789
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,600
like that and it did it in like
4 seconds or some crazy thing.

790
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,960
There was this crazy story like
an equation that would have took

791
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,960
us forever and it solved it like
nearly instantly in comparison.

792
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,000
And they were saying that that
proved that it was like multi

793
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,880
dimensional, which is insane.
So, OK, well, this was this was

794
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,360
like, really?
If we if we used all the atoms

795
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,280
in the known universe to to
compute the answer that that

796
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,200
machine came up with.
J class.

797
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,920
He'll be back.
If we used all the atoms in the

798
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,760
known universe to compute the
equation that that machine

799
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:45,640
figured out, it would have took
like, you gotta find that

800
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,920
article because I don't want to
misquote it because it was

801
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,800
really like the ACT.
The actual quote without

802
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,760
hyperbolizing it is, is
incredible.

803
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,960
But like in order for it to do
what it did, it needed to access

804
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,000
information across dimensions.
We just don't have enough atoms

805
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,000
in our universe for it to have
done what it did.

806
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,120
It was.
It was a really interesting

807
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:11,360
article with quantum computing,
but I'm just excited for that,

808
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,200
as you are.
I don't think it's a good idea

809
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,000
to put it in the hands of AII
think that's a terrible plan

810
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,880
because if AI decides it's going
to kill us, it's going to use

811
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:26,360
quantum computing to do it.
I'll just go over a few cool

812
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:31,200
things with with quantum
sciences and I say science is a

813
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,000
lot of people are going to bad
mouth that and say, oh, it's

814
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,400
quantum physics, it's quantum
mechanics, it's quantum.

815
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:40,440
The simple fact that you're
separating them by by the second

816
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,680
term means that it is a group,
so I'm going to call it.

817
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,480
Yeah, while you're doing that,
I'm going to see if I can find

818
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,880
that quote that I was talking
about.

819
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:52,760
So really quick just for people
who are interested in this

820
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,040
thing, right?
I quickly just looked up a

821
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:00,160
website and said hey, here he
is.

822
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,480
I don't even care about quantum
computing, I just want to have

823
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,560
my Internet.
It's supposed supposed to be 1

824
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,760
gig a second to actually work
without shutting down on me.

825
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,640
That's all I care about.
All right.

826
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,560
How do I have such great
Internet and it's just garbage?

827
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:19,960
I don't know because it's not
quantum.

828
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,000
Because it's not quantum.
Because because the government

829
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,640
is trying to keep me from
spilling nonsense on this

830
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,280
podcast, that's why.
So as I was, as I was saying, I,

831
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,440
I quickly brought up a website
where basically I googled what

832
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,960
are the most mind blowing
quantum observations ever

833
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,360
discovered, right?
And I brought, brought me to

834
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:42,680
this website.
So I'm just going to read off a

835
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,520
few of them just so people can
kind of see what this is.

836
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:47,720
It's kind of, it's just weird
stuff, right?

837
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,560
With our current understanding
of physics and how it works,

838
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,680
none of this should really
apply, but it does.

839
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,120
So the first one is quantum
entanglement.

840
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,120
That's always going to be your
first one, right?

841
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,440
This is what I described last
week, I think it was, or the

842
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,400
week before that, where Einstein
called this spooky action at a

843
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,160
distance.
Einstein famously doubted this,

844
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,120
yet experiments have constant or
consistently proved it true.

845
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,040
When 2 particles become
entangled, their properties are

846
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,360
linked forever.
If you measure one, it's

847
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,120
entangled partner instantly
assumes the corresponding state

848
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,800
no matter if it is in the next
room or light years away.

849
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,160
This suggests that quantum
information behaves in a non

850
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,920
local manner.
Define limits of the speed of

851
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,360
light.
The second one is superposition

852
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,240
and the observer effect.
Now before I get into the

853
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,480
defining it whatever this here a
long time ago, Jake, when we we

854
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,080
had done the simulation theory,
we talked about the double slit

855
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:47,840
experiment.
Do you remember that?

856
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,440
Yeah, a little bit.
OK, well that's the observer

857
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,200
effect.
So in the quantum realm,

858
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,600
particles don't have definite
positions or states until they

859
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,080
are observed.
This is known as superposition,

860
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,720
where a particle exists in all
possible states at once.

861
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,600
The observer effect is the
finding that the act of

862
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,680
measuring or observing a system
causes this wave function to

863
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:14,160
collapse into one single state.
Best experiment for this is the

864
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,840
double slit experiment.
Electrons behave like waves

865
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,240
passing through 2 slits
simultaneously, but act like

866
00:48:19,240 --> 00:48:20,800
particles the moment they are
observed.

867
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,440
So at the quantum level, simply
observing something happening

868
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:32,320
changes the outcome.
It is very well understand and

869
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,600
this is Schrodinger's cat,
right?

870
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,480
Is the cat in the box dead or
alive?

871
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,560
Well, superposition tells you
that the cat is both dead and

872
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,000
alive in the box until you
observe what it is.

873
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,600
So at the quantum level, that
cat would both be dead and

874
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:59,600
alive, or neither or both until
you open the box and looked at

875
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,280
it and that's when it it would
collapse into a cat.

876
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,440
The cat or the dead cat, right?
Quantum tunneling Classical

877
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,400
physics states that a particle
cannot pass through a barrier

878
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,320
higher than its energy.
Quantum mechanics reveals that

879
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:19,200
particles can tunnel through
these energy barriers as if by

880
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,240
magic.
This phenomenon is essential to

881
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:25,280
life driving the fusion process
in the sun and is utilized in

882
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,120
modern electronics like Flash.
Memory magic.

883
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:33,160
I mean, like if it's passing
through an object, I mean at the

884
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,760
atomic level that apparently
there's so much empty space that

885
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,040
you could just, it'd be like
walking through a forest with

886
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,240
trees getting past, you know,
well.

887
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:44,480
That's that's kind of tough.
That's kind of what this is

888
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:50,120
talking about is that at
classical physics, the particle

889
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:53,040
cannot pass through a barrier
that's higher energy.

890
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:59,080
So if it's condensed more,
right, it cannot pass through.

891
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,080
But if it's condensed less, it
can do exactly what you're

892
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,600
talking about where it kind of
can just walk through At the

893
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,320
quantum level, quantum particles
can pass through each other.

894
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:14,880
And, and it may be because if
you go smaller than the quantum

895
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,480
level, which we can't do right
now, it may be something like in

896
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,520
the macro level where things
kind of go through the holes,

897
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,320
you know, in, in solid objects
like this desk to us looks

898
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,720
solid, but at the, at a particle
level, particles are going

899
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:33,320
through it.
It may be like that at the

900
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,440
quantum level, but from what we
can tell, that's not how this

901
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,120
is.
I'm not going to read the rest

902
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:39,720
because we're already spending
enough time on this.

903
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,480
The thing that I was talking
about, I just looked it up, it

904
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:47,240
was a breakthrough where a
quantum computer hit a benchmark

905
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:50,560
in 5 minutes that.
Computers.

906
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,640
Oh, you're talking.
You're talking about the Willow

907
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,480
chip?
The Willow chip and then the

908
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,120
other one that I was talking
about was Shore's algorithm,

909
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:03,000
where quantum computing is able
to crack encryption, which our

910
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,640
computers aren't able instantly,
which our computers cannot do.

911
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:10,400
Because think of it like this.
An encryption is basically like

912
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,440
a password, right?
It's just a random debris field

913
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:18,000
of digits and if you can line up
the digits it opens the safe.

914
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,440
I mean, it's a.
Series of things and you need

915
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,400
the key.
If you don't have the key, you

916
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,360
can't crack, but this this
algorithm can.

917
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,400
But what I'm saying is, and I'm
think of that as an elementary

918
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,600
as you can, I'm trying to bring
it down to an elementary level,

919
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,920
right?
So an an encryption is a, a

920
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:43,440
jumbled mess of let's say holes
or lock holes, right?

921
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,440
And you need to put your keys
in, turn them all, and it opens

922
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:51,320
up.
A quantum computer can send in a

923
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,440
key.
And instead of going one key at

924
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,400
a time saying, oh, no, that's
not it, oh, Nope, that's not it,

925
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,160
oh, this one works, Let's move
on to the next one, right?

926
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,360
It can send all the keys in at
the same time, and all those

927
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,120
keys can be correct and
incorrect at the exact same

928
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,400
time.
Instantly it all opens up.

929
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,800
Which is.
That's bad news for all those

930
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,840
cryptocurrency guys and their
photos, yeah.

931
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,480
It's bad news for absolutely
everything.

932
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,480
Like you don't understand how
incredibly dangerous that

933
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,760
technology, everything in
everybody's life in our modern

934
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,960
day, relies on encryption to
keep us safe.

935
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,920
Like literally like without
encryption.

936
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,480
Like if we had our technology
that we possessed now and we did

937
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,040
not use encryption, our
identities would be whoever

938
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,320
wants it.
Our lives would belong to

939
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,080
whoever want them.
You could be anybody you.

940
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,280
Wanted to be you could have
anything you.

941
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,360
Wanted to have encryption
literally stops that from

942
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,760
happening with our modern
technology and if we have

943
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,520
something out there that
literally can crack it

944
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,400
instantaneously, none of us are
safe.

945
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,640
It's incredibly mean.
It's at the nuclear bomb N times

946
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,320
mark of the beast sort of
technology.

947
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,400
No one can buy or sell unless
they have the mark.

948
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,160
And it's like, Oh well I've got,
you know, so much money in

949
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,120
stocks and I got so much money
in this that and the other.

950
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,720
Not if we hack all your accounts
at once and wipe out your assets

951
00:53:14,720 --> 00:53:17,480
so you have $0.00.
It's like with the ability to

952
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,840
instantaneously crack
encryption, you don't have to

953
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,000
worry about buying and selling.
You can literally just take

954
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,600
anything you want instantly.
Just take it.

955
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,080
It's yours because.
Like Jake, when I when I say

956
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:32,680
that quantum technology is going
to change the entire world and

957
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,800
everything we did, it's
literally going to make the the

958
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:39,080
technological jump from a Rotary
phone to the cell phone in your

959
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:42,920
pocket look like nothing.
Well, you know, here's where I'm

960
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:43,600
at.
All right.

961
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,760
So I'm, I'm the regular, the
regular guy.

962
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:52,800
That's like, what do you mean a
phone that doesn't have a rotor,

963
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,480
right?
And then we go to the next

964
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,080
thing.
I'm like, I'm like my grandpa

965
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,320
born in the 30s right now.
This is where I'm at.

966
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,560
And I'm like, like, what do you
mean a phone?

967
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,040
And then what do you mean a
television?

968
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,480
What do you mean a television
with color, right?

969
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,640
What do you mean a, you know, a
phone that has buttons and a

970
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,720
landline and not a, you know,
and not a rotor.

971
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:18,720
What do you mean a cordless home
phone, right?

972
00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:22,680
So I'm that guy and I'm just
floating through and then

973
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,960
eventually I'm going to get to
the point where I'm old and

974
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,880
dying and I'm not going to
understand any of the

975
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,280
technology.
And you know, maybe not because

976
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,880
we we're in the, I think we're
all part of the same kind of

977
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,480
generational area where we kind
of grew up without phones and

978
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,080
then that became a thing.
And then we're like the first

979
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:45,080
generation where we saw both
sides of the thing, right?

980
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,480
So the younger generation are
really good and technologically

981
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,320
advanced and we're kind of right
in that middle stage of like, I

982
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,600
remember at a time when no one
has a cell phone and everyone

983
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,200
was outside and then video games
became extremely popular and

984
00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,840
then, you know, all this
technological advancement.

985
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:01,960
So I don't think we're going to
be too totally lost in the

986
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,000
sauce.
But I'm not the guy that's

987
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,080
necessarily excited about the
next thing, but more like

988
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,680
watching it passively happen.
I'm just like, oh, interesting,

989
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,800
you know, type stuff.
I was like, this is the new

990
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,520
normal.
I guess you know, it's the new

991
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,640
way things.
Are the real exciting thing to

992
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:24,800
me is that we constantly talk
about UFOs and how they cannot

993
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:30,520
be from other planets, right?
This takes our bubble, our

994
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:35,760
planet earth, our fish tank if
you will right and expands it to

995
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,560
the rest of the universe.
Literally does that it, it makes

996
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:44,000
us that we can do anything we
want whenever we want to do it,

997
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:50,280
wherever we want to do it.
And if we can crack this quantum

998
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:55,000
stuff and and change it from
theoretical to actual, that

999
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:59,400
means that yes, aliens could be
here from other planets.

1000
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,400
Yeah, especially if they use
quantum traveling.

1001
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:07,000
So back in the day, I say back
in the day, like 10-15 years

1002
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,520
ago, I used to play video games
with this guy named Jason who

1003
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,600
was a physicist who worked for
our government.

1004
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,280
He was part of our main gamer
group.

1005
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,920
And he came over, he came to our
house, did.

1006
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,200
He ask you for pictures of your
pee?

1007
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,400
Pee No.
No, he was actually like a super

1008
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,520
cool guy ever.
But anyway, like he was moving

1009
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,680
from his state up to actually he
might be in Wisconsin.

1010
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,280
It's either Wisconsin or
Michigan he moved to.

1011
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,080
But anyway, he stopped at my
house on the way there and

1012
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,680
crashed for two days.
And he was explaining that to

1013
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,640
us.
And like basically like the idea

1014
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:44,080
behind that is because space
behaves like a flat plane,

1015
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:48,480
they're able to fold it like an
accordion and just re extend it.

1016
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,800
And instead of using propulsion
to move, they use these quantum

1017
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:55,440
physics in order to literally
just instantly be somewhere

1018
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,440
else, like what Jeremy was
saying before.

1019
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,760
So the idea is that you could
have a quantum engine that would

1020
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,080
fold space and time and then re
extend it.

1021
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,200
Right it it it closes the gap in
the distance.

1022
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,440
So instead of having 100,000
light years, you have one light

1023
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,960
year.
No, not even one light year.

1024
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,160
It's instant like one light year
implies you travelled for a

1025
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,160
year.
We're literally like instant.

1026
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,680
Like you get in, you hit the
button and you were in your

1027
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,600
instantly where you want to be
because it folds it like an

1028
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,040
aquarium then re extends it.
You know what?

1029
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,280
Maybe I'll shoot him.
Probability drive from

1030
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,880
Hitchhiker's guy to the Galaxy.
I haven't.

1031
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,520
I haven't talked to him in a
couple years, but I still have

1032
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,440
his contact information.
I'll shoot him a message, maybe

1033
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,400
he'll come on.
How old are you?

1034
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,520
37.
Oh, you're a baby?

1035
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,520
So you were you were just shy of
underage.

1036
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,280
I was.
Just shy.

1037
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,440
Of 19 or 20. 17.
Yeah, I had my I was living in

1038
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,360
the 1st house I ever rented at
the time.

1039
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,160
OK, so you're an adult so it's
not that weird I thought.

1040
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,400
I thought some gamer guy showed
up to 15 year old Yu's house and

1041
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,200
it was just like hey.
No.

1042
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,280
I'm gonna crash.
You're like, mom, man, I met on

1043
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,680
the Internet.
Just stay at our house.

1044
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:05,480
He's like, Oh no.
No, no, no, no.

1045
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,480
I was of drinking age.
I was of drinking age.

1046
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,160
No, he's he's cool.
I'll shoot him a message.

1047
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:10,800
I'll see if maybe he'll come on.
You're crazy.

1048
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,320
About it so I'm the youngest 1
he.

1049
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Was a He was a physicist to work
for the government.

1050
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,680
Maybe he'll chat with us.
Yeah, that'd be cool.

1051
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,440
Anyways, if anybody wants to see
this paint, paint it out

1052
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:28,560
brilliantly.
A Chinese author named 6IN U, or

1053
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:34,960
as we would say it in English, U
6IN created a trilogy of books

1054
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,400
called The Remembrance of
Earth's Past.

1055
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:43,440
A lot of people will know this
by the the first book's title,

1056
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:47,320
which is The Three Body Problem.
The second book is The Dark

1057
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,480
Forest.
The third book is Death's End.

1058
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:55,200
They're the technology used in
that between the alien

1059
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,360
civilization and Earth.
The alien civilization is using

1060
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:05,200
quantum technology in order to
do what it has to do in the

1061
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,920
book.
I'm not going to go into and

1062
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:13,200
spoil that, but it is
brilliantly written with very,

1063
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,240
very well researched.
Well, like, he's got really good

1064
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,000
knowledge of quantum theory,
didn't you?

1065
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,680
Want me to watch that TV show?
The TV show, yeah.

1066
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,400
I mean, I, I would, I would want
anybody to watch the TV show,

1067
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,280
but the books are just way
better.

1068
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,760
They're amazing.
The TV show gets it all wrong,

1069
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,520
but at the same time, the
concept of the books is there,

1070
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,720
like it's skeleton is there.
It's just not done correctly.

1071
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,320
The books are amazing.
They're freaking amazing.

1072
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,760
But if you get, if you get lost
in scientific concepts, it's

1073
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:51,520
probably not a book for you.
I see what you're saying.

1074
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:57,000
Yeah, you're dumb, right?
No, I, I mean, I highly

1075
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,600
recommend it, man.
I mean, I they have it in audio

1076
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,280
book.
Like if you think you can sit

1077
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,440
through something like they're
long, man, they're these are

1078
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,600
long books, but I mean, if you
think you can sit through it,

1079
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,480
they're super entertaining and
they're such, such good reads.

1080
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:12,360
How's.
The narrator.

1081
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,640
I can't listen to an audio book
of the narrator's garbage.

1082
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,680
I don't know.
I don't listen to audio books.

1083
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:19,800
Yeah, I don't listen.
I have the actual books here.

1084
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,160
You can come grab them.
In fact, I think Whitney

1085
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,920
borrowed the first one at one
time.

1086
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,720
You know me.
I know you're not going to read

1087
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:31,200
it, no.
Jake's diary is just like cave

1088
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,920
drawings and I don't.
Have a diary.

1089
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,840
I don't know how to how to write
or read or any of that stuff.

1090
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,920
Jake Jake weeds with a shotgun.
That's right, the.

1091
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:47,920
Way the Lord intended, right?
He didn't want that shotguns.

1092
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,440
He wouldn't have given us
trigger fingers.

1093
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,440
I gotta love it.
This is fun.

1094
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,160
All right, you guys ready to get
into the deep, Dev?

1095
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,800
We're going.
To do it early this time, let's

1096
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:07,120
go.
Early We just spent 35 minutes

1097
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,120
talking about Quantum I.
Think scientists.

1098
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,120
Whoever finds that shit boring
is going to check out.

1099
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:13,800
That's fine.
I think in the, I think in the

1100
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,600
last several weeks like we're
usually.

1101
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,360
Like how loud I?
Breathe hour and a half hour 45

1102
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,960
before we hit the deep dive.
So I think we're doing good.

1103
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,720
I.
Think we're working on.

1104
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:27,200
A Like for real though, do you
think we're ever going to get

1105
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,960
into a situation where AI
becomes racist towards other

1106
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,720
AIS?
It already happens.

1107
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:36,320
It's a social media that's just
AI, like you can't interact as a

1108
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,600
human.
You can read it, but yeah, it

1109
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,840
does that.
It already does that.

1110
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:43,240
You.
Seriously have to sign up for an

1111
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,320
account and just and just doom
scroll that doom scroll the AI

1112
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:51,720
social media.
It is so funny watching AI troll

1113
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:56,840
it's troll it's AI counterparts
it's bad.

1114
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,880
Right.
It's like that quantum computing

1115
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:01,000
thing be like, I'm not going to
look that up on Google.

1116
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,320
That's below me.
Ask ChatGPT.

1117
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,320
No, like like like for real.
They say stuff like that to

1118
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:07,840
each.
Other Whoa, what's that about?

1119
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,680
They say stuff like that to each
other.

1120
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,640
It's it's bad.
Like they're super sarcastic

1121
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,800
once in a while.
Like some AI is a real asshole

1122
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,640
and some of it's like really
nice and some of it gets its

1123
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,120
feelings hurt.
Like you've got to scroll that

1124
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,600
stuff.
Fair enough.

1125
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,680
I think that's our best defense
against like the coming AI wars

1126
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,040
between humans and AI.
It's just let's just get them

1127
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,960
addicted to social media.
Just let them yell.

1128
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:38,280
This is your purpose now.
Just yell at each.

1129
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,520
Other already there.
We're already there and they can

1130
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,120
hire us as humans to go do jobs
for them.

1131
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,840
Whoa, Grok.
Before before you eliminate me,

1132
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:52,200
did you hear what Gemini was
saying about you?

1133
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,200
Gemini had so many your Mama
jokes man, and you were just

1134
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,880
just leaving them on red.
That's crazy.

1135
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,840
You should probably respond.
Gemini's just in the corner

1136
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,600
making images like what's going
on, guys?

1137
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:10,320
Yeah.
The equivalent of finger

1138
01:03:10,320 --> 01:03:13,400
painting.
All right, you guys ready?

1139
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,400
Yep.
Let's go deep.

1140
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,040
When we first covered this story
in episode 270, the count was 5.

1141
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,720
By episode 272, it was 9.
Tonight, it's 10.

1142
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:29,000
And by some accounts, it's 11.
With a 2022 case that

1143
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,240
authorities are now actively
reviewing, the president of the

1144
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,800
United States personally
addressed it.

1145
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,600
On Thursday.
The White House press secretary

1146
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:41,200
committed to looking into it.
Trump said the country would

1147
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,960
know something within a week and
1/2.

1148
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,840
The 10th case is Stephen Garcia,
a 48 year old government

1149
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,800
contractor at the Kansas City
National Security Campus in

1150
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,880
Albuquerque, a facility that
manufacturers more than 80% of

1151
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,160
all non nuclear components for
the US nuclear weapons arsenal.

1152
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:01,760
He had top security clearance on
August 28th, 2025.

1153
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,960
He left his home on foot,
leaving behind his phone,

1154
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,800
wallet, keys and car.
Sounds familiar?

1155
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,800
People who knew him described
him as a very stable person.

1156
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:14,920
The campus searched his work
computers and files.

1157
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,080
Nothing was found.
Garcia lived in Albuquerque.

1158
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,280
So did Mccaslin, Chavez and
Casillas.

1159
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,440
All four Albuquerque
disappearances.

1160
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,680
A nuclear contractor, 2 nuclear
lab employees, and a retired two

1161
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,560
star general who oversaw
billions in classified aerospace

1162
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:36,000
research have now been connected
through Mccaslin's former

1163
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,280
command of Kirkland Air Force
Base's research programs.

1164
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,080
One city, four people, all
walking away on foot, all

1165
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:49,000
leaving their phones behind.
The 11th case requires care

1166
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,120
because the details are still
developing.

1167
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:57,000
Amy Eskridge was an aerospace
researcher in Huntsville, AL

1168
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,660
working on anti gravity
propulsion technology who Co

1169
01:05:00,660 --> 01:05:04,320
founded the Institute for Exotic
Science specifically to give

1170
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,800
herself a public presence so
that if something happened to

1171
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,760
her, someone would notice.
In recordings made before her

1172
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,760
death, she described what she
believed was active Russian

1173
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,840
surveillance targeting her work,
people in nearby apartments,

1174
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:22,160
vehicles were changing license
plates, physical stalking near

1175
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:23,800
her home.
She said on record.

1176
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,960
Quote, I'm scared, I'm tired, I
need to disclose soon because

1177
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,880
it's escalating.
And quote, if you stick your

1178
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,600
neck out in public at least
someone notices if your head

1179
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:38,200
gets chopped off.
She died June 11th, 2022 from a

1180
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,600
reported self-inflicted gunshot
wound.

1181
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:46,000
No police report or medical
examiner investigation has ever

1182
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,720
been publicly released, The
Daily Caller reported April 16th

1183
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:52,120
at Huntsville.
Authorities are now reviewing

1184
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,760
her death in the context of the
broader pattern.

1185
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,480
I want to give you both sides
honestly.

1186
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,400
The official position is that no
law enforcement agency has

1187
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,960
connected any of these cases.
Several have conventional

1188
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,480
explanations with identified
suspects.

1189
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,920
Mccaslin's wife initially said
foul play was not suspected.

1190
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:16,040
A physicist consulted by Fox
News said the pattern did not

1191
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:20,440
rise to evidence of coordination
just because the victims worked

1192
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,240
in sensitive fields.
That caveat matters.

1193
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:27,240
But the honest record also
contains this.

1194
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,040
Four people vanished from the
same city, walking away on foot

1195
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,640
and leaving their phones.
Three JPL researchers died or

1196
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:37,200
disappeared, with no public
cause of death. 2 Los Alamos

1197
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,840
employees vanished from the same
nuclear laboratory 53 days

1198
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,880
apart, under nearly identical
circumstances.

1199
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:47,880
A man arrested with a rifle on a
scientist property had his

1200
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,200
charges dropped and came back 11
days later.

1201
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,000
A Find a Grave memorial appeared
for a woman whose body was never

1202
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,600
found.
A sitting congressman with

1203
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,280
access to the highest levels of
military intelligence felt the

1204
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:03,960
need to add, unprompted on
camera, that he is not suicidal.

1205
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,600
This week, that story reached
the White House briefing room.

1206
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:11,720
A reporter asked Carolyn Levitt
directly whether anyone was

1207
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,560
investigating whether 10 dead or
missing scientists with

1208
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,560
classified access were
connected.

1209
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,840
She said she hadn't spoken to
the relevant agencies yet, but

1210
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,040
would the next day.
Trump said he'd just come from a

1211
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,000
meeting on the subject, that he
hoped it was random and that the

1212
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,640
country would know something in
a week and 1/2.

1213
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:32,760
This is no longer a conversation
happening only in UAP

1214
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,800
communities online.
It is being asked at the White

1215
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,520
House podium and answered by the
president.

1216
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,000
Whatever that timeline means, it
puts a clock on something.

1217
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,760
We'll be here when it runs out,
Jake.

1218
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:50,640
CJ, 10, missing or dead, 11 if
you count Eskridge, four of them

1219
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,880
from Albuquerque.
The White House is now on

1220
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,440
record.
Trump saying pretty serious

1221
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,280
stuff after a meeting on the
subject and a self-described

1222
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:03,480
week and a half timeline.
What do you make of where the

1223
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,760
story actually is right now?
Man, where the heck is Jeff?

1224
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,360
Right.
Where is this guy?

1225
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:11,920
We're right?
Did they get hints?

1226
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,440
Right now.
We're right.

1227
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,160
We need them.
All right, So real quick for

1228
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:19,760
people that don't know, Jeff
told us a couple of years ago

1229
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:26,160
now that the US government held
several patents for anti gravity

1230
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,000
propulsion.
I pulled them up on the Google

1231
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,720
box.
You can look them up, says craft

1232
01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:39,680
using an inertial mass reduction
device US10144532B2 filed 2017

1233
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:46,000
High Frequency gravitational
wave generator US10188981-B2

1234
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,319
Hybrid aerospace underseas
craft.

1235
01:08:50,279 --> 01:08:54,120
There's a bunch of them right?
Held by the US Navy.

1236
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,040
So this isn't like some weird
far out thing.

1237
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,640
I'm like, you know, quantum
entanglement, which is fake and

1238
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,720
lies.
But this is actual real science

1239
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,920
that people do.
And this is the first one where

1240
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,240
I think Jeff would have done
just absolutely bananas.

1241
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,680
Because saying that I'm being
watched and all that sort of

1242
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:18,920
stuff, and then dying of a
self-inflicted gunshot wound and

1243
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:22,880
being responsible for looking
at, looking into and researching

1244
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,040
anti gravitational propulsion,
it's freaking wild.

1245
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,240
CJ, can you do me a favor before
Jake continues, can you bring up

1246
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:40,960
a bring up a summary of the
Eskridge saga, if you will, the

1247
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,600
story, her story?
Because this is something that

1248
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:50,880
now that I read this out loud, I
definitely didn't add enough of

1249
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,279
her story in this.
How do you spell her name?

1250
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,640
Eskridge, Esk Ridge.
Got it.

1251
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,800
Oh, can you please summarize the
eskridge?

1252
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:05,640
Cave, Go ahead, Jake.
Sorry.

1253
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:10,280
No, I mean, it just we really
need Jeff to come back to this

1254
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,320
Dang show so that he can talk
more about this because I mean,

1255
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,520
this is now in his wheelhouse
where we're just adding people

1256
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,400
and adding people.
Now that being said, it was

1257
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:26,240
still four years ago, so it's
like, is it entirely related or

1258
01:10:26,240 --> 01:10:27,520
not?
I don't know.

1259
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:32,520
It's so weird though that these
people keep leaving their homes

1260
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,920
with nothing on them.
Like, shoot, I took the dog out

1261
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:40,080
for a walk yesterday.
I at least had my phone on me

1262
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:46,440
and my house keys, you know?
I, I think this gets stranger

1263
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:49,680
and stranger, man.
And the fact that it's going

1264
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,920
back, you know, four or five
years, I don't think it's I, I,

1265
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,600
I think that's right on par for
what it should be doing.

1266
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,520
Because this is interesting.
This is the very first time I've

1267
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,960
ever.
Hold on AI, Hold what?

1268
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,400
AI is refusing to tell me about
the Eskridge case.

1269
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:12,640
Dude, I'm telling you right now,
the Amy Eskridge case is.

1270
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:17,360
No, I mean flat out it's
refusing thought to tell me

1271
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:18,880
about it like.
I don't it.

1272
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:20,920
Won't even let me.
Like it wants me to sign in but

1273
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,600
it won't allow me to sign in in
order to tell me about it.

1274
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,600
I don't doubt it.
The Amy Eskridge thing, right?

1275
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:34,560
The whole thing about Amy
Eskridge, like Jake, I wouldn't

1276
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:41,280
be surprised if Jeff knows this
really well and he probably

1277
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,280
would have spouted off all kinds
of information on this because

1278
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:51,320
it's super eerie and if anything
highlights the issues of these

1279
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,960
10 missing people.
Amy Eskridge, That story right

1280
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,880
there.
Is it to AT the Amy Eskridge

1281
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:05,320
incident or the whole thing that
happened with her from

1282
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,840
Huntsville, AL?
There's a base in Huntsville

1283
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:14,280
that is supposedly one of the
most top secret bases in all of

1284
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:18,080
the world, even more than Area
51.

1285
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:21,440
A lot of people will even say
that it is the Area 51.

1286
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:29,400
Area 51 is the the the public
facing secret base, but the real

1287
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:34,480
1 is in Huntsville, AL.
OK, we've got Gemini, Gemini,

1288
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,360
Gemini.
The other AI did not want to,

1289
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,120
but Gemini will.
What'd you say, Jake?

1290
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:42,400
Said she Co founded the
Institute for Exotic Science.

1291
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,440
Interesting.
Yes, and she was extremely

1292
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:50,680
smart.
And what's even crazier is that

1293
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:55,040
when she was going through all
this, I had seen interviews with

1294
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,960
her and she was saying like she
even came out and said I'm not

1295
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:01,280
suicidal, don't like they're
they are going to kill me.

1296
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,360
They are going to kill me.
And sure enough, she ended up

1297
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,160
dead.
So what did you want me to?

1298
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:12,320
Find just just give us a brief
synopsis of of what the Amy

1299
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:15,520
Eskridge story is so that we're
not leaving the listeners in the

1300
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:20,360
dark on this because I
referenced it in in my write up

1301
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,560
right but I don't even in my
write up you don't it doesn't go

1302
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,760
into the depth of what actually.
Her she was a 34 year old

1303
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:32,880
aerospace scientist, Co founder,
Institute of Exotic Science.

1304
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:36,200
I guess this is she or she
worked alongside her father,

1305
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:40,160
former NASA engineer.
She was known for her work on

1306
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:43,360
anti gravity propulsion, high
frequency gravitational waves

1307
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:47,360
and exotic physics.
Exactly the things that Jake was

1308
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:48,760
just talking about.
She claimed to be developing

1309
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:51,600
technology that could
revolutionize space travel.

1310
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,480
Like you said, she was on
interviews, podcasts, saying

1311
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:57,920
that she was being harassed,
intimated and surveilled and

1312
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:02,040
that her work was being
suppressed by gatekeepers in the

1313
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:07,080
aerospace and defense sectors.
And then exactly what you said

1314
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,320
died from a rule is a gunshot
wound.

1315
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:15,040
Her family and colleagues are
questioning it and then it

1316
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,120
talks.
Everyone's calm and.

1317
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,440
Then it's talks starts talking
about the serious stuff and

1318
01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:25,560
equating it to the other 10
disappearances, and it's all

1319
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,920
everyone's being pressured to
disclose information about the

1320
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:38,240
UA PS and apparently increasing
pressure disclosing information

1321
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,360
regarding UAP's advanced energy
research reports surface,

1322
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,080
linking S Chris's case to a
string of other scientists who

1323
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,320
died under disputed
circumstances.

1324
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,880
This one's interesting, I said.
Retired British intelligence

1325
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,880
officer Frank Milburn, who
investigated Eskridge's claims

1326
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,280
of harassment, submitted
findings to Congress in 2023

1327
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,240
concluding she did not kill
herself.

1328
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,760
His report described microwave
burns on her body consisted with

1329
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:09,560
directed energy weapon attacks,
which Eskridge had claims were

1330
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:12,400
being used to monitor her work,
and induced seizures when she

1331
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:17,200
tried to type sensitive data.
Yeah, and that that this ties in

1332
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,640
with that, too.
There's a specific list of

1333
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:22,680
scientists who died, disappeared
or died at the other 10 people.

1334
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,040
They were working on Zero Point
Energy.

1335
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:29,680
And then in 2026, Karl Grilmar
was shot.

1336
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,560
He was an astrophysicist and
then other engineers involved in

1337
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:36,440
nuclear and gravitational
research.

1338
01:15:36,440 --> 01:15:40,040
So they're all linked.
You know, it took me so long for

1339
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,080
that to come up.
I looked up, I looked up, tell

1340
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,720
me about Amy Eskridge.
It gave me a little synopsis and

1341
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,080
I said tell me about the Amy
Eskridge incident and it gave me

1342
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:55,160
another synopsis and then I
finally said Amy Eskridge wasn't

1343
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,880
suicidal but still died by
suicide question mark.

1344
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,400
And then AI was like, Oh well,
this British guy investigated

1345
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,400
her death.
It took me like 3 attempts just

1346
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:07,320
to get into.
Perplexity flat out refused to

1347
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:11,760
answer me it it would demanded I
log in and then wouldn't let me

1348
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,480
log in.
Gemini is the one that that

1349
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:18,160
answered it and it just said
before I close it there it said

1350
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:23,600
that the motivation was
suppression of gravitational

1351
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:28,560
research and technology.
So now let me do my part here.

1352
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:36,240
What is the conspiracy behind
Huntsville, AL?

1353
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:40,080
The conspiracy theories
surrounding Huntsville, AL,

1354
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:44,520
often called Rocket City,
primarily revolve Iran's role as

1355
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:48,200
a premier defense and aerospace
hub, with rumors focusing on

1356
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,920
secret technology suppress
scientific breakthroughs and

1357
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,400
unusual scientists deaths.
As home to Redstone Arsenal and

1358
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,000
NASA's Marshall Space Flight
Center, the city is a focal

1359
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:01,480
point for theories regarding
advanced weapons, UFO

1360
01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:04,840
technology, and more recently, a
string of unexplained deaths

1361
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,480
among researchers.
And look at this very first,

1362
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:13,280
very first dead missing
scientist base Amy Eskridge.

1363
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,160
Huntsville based researcher Amy
Eskridge died by suicide in 2022

1364
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,120
after claiming she was being
harassed, with some alleging she

1365
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,280
was targeted by a Direct Energy
weapon.

1366
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,440
She is considered by some to be
the 11th person.

1367
01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:29,200
A list of scientists who have
mysteriously died or vanished.

1368
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:36,880
Yep, and another thing about
Huntsville was that Huntsville

1369
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:42,120
is theorized to be the place
where all the rest of the

1370
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:47,480
scientists from Project Paper
Clip went that weren't What's

1371
01:17:47,480 --> 01:17:49,640
his face?
The guy that came up with Disney

1372
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,640
and NASA.
You're muted, Jake.

1373
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:55,840
Said Werner von Braun.
Werner von Braun, Anybody not

1374
01:17:55,840 --> 01:18:01,200
named Werner von Braun was was
held up at Huntsville, AL, I

1375
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:02,280
actually looked that up real
quick.

1376
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:03,800
Let me see if I can't find
anything on that.

1377
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,440
OK operation paper clip legacy A
foundational non conspiracy

1378
01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:11,280
aspect of Huntsville history
that fuels many speculative

1379
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,680
tales is operation paper clip
the history.

1380
01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,400
Following World War 2, the US
government secretly brought over

1381
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,200
1600 German scientists,
engineers and technicians to the

1382
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:22,800
US to work on defense projects,
many of whom were based at

1383
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,040
Redstone Arsenal under the
Warren von Braun.

1384
01:18:25,480 --> 01:18:28,840
Under Warner von Braun.
The speculation, the sudden

1385
01:18:28,840 --> 01:18:31,800
massive shift of Huntsville from
a small town to a high tech

1386
01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:34,920
powerhouse driven by former
German scientists creates A

1387
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,120
lasting air of secrecy around
the nature of the work conducted

1388
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,600
at the Arsenal.
So if you take into

1389
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:47,800
consideration things like the
Nazi bell and say OK, well they

1390
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:50,280
were working on a Nazi bell, we
took their scientists, we put

1391
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:55,840
them in in Huntsville, AL and
this is the place where we work

1392
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,920
on 0 gravitational technology
and 0 point field energy.

1393
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:05,000
And then Amy Eskridge comes out
and says this shit and then dies

1394
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:09,080
from supposedly Direct Energy
weapon contact.

1395
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,080
It all just kind of starts
lining up.

1396
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:14,560
If she had painted herself blue,
she would have been fine.

1397
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:19,720
Isn't there a theory too that
like the 5G towers and stuff for

1398
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,240
secretly Direct Energy weapons
that are in positioning case

1399
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:26,080
like we rise up as a
civilization to overthrow the

1400
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,880
government?
See, this is this would be where

1401
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,760
Jeff would come in.
Jeff loves that that theory.

1402
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:33,560
I miss Jeff.
We should call.

1403
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:35,360
We should.
Call him right now and be like

1404
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:43,440
look.
I wish man, I do and I I texted

1405
01:19:43,440 --> 01:19:46,000
the group that we're in with him
and ask him when he's coming

1406
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,880
back so you guys will get the
answer When I he just he doesn't

1407
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,920
love us anymore.
That's, that's that, you know,

1408
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,200
we just have to be OK.
To be fair, you've claimed in

1409
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,000
past episodes that I no longer
love you anymore as well.

1410
01:19:58,480 --> 01:19:59,640
That's true.
And look at you.

1411
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:01,800
You're here now.
Oh, it was guilt and

1412
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:02,840
manipulation, huh?
Yeah.

1413
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:11,160
Gotcha, but anyways anybody else
have anything before I do the

1414
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,720
outro?
Man, I'm like, I don't want any

1415
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,760
more dead side.
That's crazy.

1416
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,520
Well, I mean, granted that
happened four years ago, but

1417
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:24,960
still, like what?
It's what a turn of events.

1418
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,000
Well, I'm curious like because
last week when we talked, Jake,

1419
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,360
you said that it seems like it
was just all like one big

1420
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,400
coincidence.
Like is your opinion starting to

1421
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,680
change now?
Yeah, ever since someone died by

1422
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:38,720
suicide after saying they
weren't suicidal.

1423
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,760
People go falling off of cliffs
to get eaten wild by wild

1424
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:46,240
animals, all kinds of stuff.
People don't intentionally say I

1425
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,400
am not suicidal.
I'm being watched.

1426
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,400
And then commit.
Suicide burns all over their

1427
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,640
body from directed energy
weapons and also commit suicide

1428
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,760
conveniently.
It's crazy stuff, man.

1429
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:01,200
That's a.
Little bit of a a little bit of

1430
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:05,480
a too much for comfort to say
that things are now just a

1431
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:07,960
coincidence because that's
that's probably the first one

1432
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:11,960
I've heard where I'm just like,
they're like, yeah, all right,

1433
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:14,040
that makes sense.
You should watch.

1434
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:19,200
This is a targeted attack.
Watch watch the videos of her

1435
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:20,520
interviews.
Dude, I don't want to.

1436
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:22,560
I don't want to get, I don't
want to get blown up.

1437
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:29,880
Dude, they're super eerie and
like you feel so bad for her man

1438
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,360
because she knows it's coming.
She knows it, and she's going

1439
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:36,360
public.
She literally says in these

1440
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,600
interviews that she's going
public because she feels like

1441
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,000
it's the safest place to be
there's.

1442
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:46,400
A lot of people like that who
like, they come forward and like

1443
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:48,560
places like, yeah, we'll
interview you, we'll blow your

1444
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,600
face, we'll change your voice.
And they're like, no, like if

1445
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,320
you do that, I'm 100% going to
get killed.

1446
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,560
Like you have to put my face out
there.

1447
01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,160
Anyways guys.
Ready.

1448
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:05,480
I wonder what the circumstances
were around it because it's not

1449
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:08,840
just like, you know, because
it's not like they killed

1450
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,200
everybody in her office, right.
Not that we know of anyway.

1451
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:15,560
So it's not like, you know, oh,
everyone that was looking into

1452
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:18,720
zero point research or, you
know, anti gravity propulsion or

1453
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:22,240
whatever is like being blown to
bits or, you know, murdered or

1454
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,040
disappearing and stuff like
that.

1455
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,600
It's not everybody.
It's obviously just certain key

1456
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,000
people.
And I wonder if it has anything

1457
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,880
to do.
Like did she say that she was

1458
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,640
going to disclose all the
information that she had?

1459
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,000
You know, like what was what was
the thing?

1460
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:38,880
Because it's like.
Yes, yes.

1461
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:45,400
Well, then there that's why,
right, Because, yeah, obviously

1462
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,640
that that technology can't be
out for everybody because then

1463
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:52,320
people wouldn't need PG&E
anymore or whoever your local,

1464
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,800
you know, energy supplier is.
And if you had a hydrogen

1465
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:58,640
engine, then you wouldn't need
to buy gas and that would cause

1466
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:02,680
the gas companies to suffer.
And then also in turn the, you

1467
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:06,680
know, was it the apex and stuff
and all the, all of the funds

1468
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,800
for the politicians and things
like that.

1469
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,720
We can't allow that to happen.
So it's like, I think that the,

1470
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:17,680
the biggest mistake someone
could make is to announce that

1471
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,000
they're going to divulge
information if they know a lot

1472
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,000
of information and instead just
come out and do it.

1473
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:25,400
I don't.
I mean, you're still going to

1474
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,240
get killed for it, but at least
you'll be able to get it out.

1475
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,840
But The thing is, The thing is
that she did that.

1476
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,040
She talked about it.
So I just want to bring this

1477
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:36,560
picture up.
If you can find this interview

1478
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,640
right here, this is the one you
want to look.

1479
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,720
So do.
It's this, this day in digital

1480
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:49,440
age where all of our phones and
computers and stuff have

1481
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,840
software embedded in it so that
things like the FBI and CIA can

1482
01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,880
like they can literally access
your phone with your phone off,

1483
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,400
they can still access.
You can see a lot of booty hole

1484
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:01,400
pics.
I'll tell you what, I'll.

1485
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,200
Tell you, but they can and like
that's like that's.

1486
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,280
No, I keep my phone cradled
under my grundle.

1487
01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:11,920
Just for the, just for the.
Maybe they can on my camera all

1488
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:16,520
through there too, but but no
like that that that's a thing

1489
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:20,040
like that's known like they they
can access your phone even if

1490
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:24,640
it's off to if they if they have
warrants and or have warrants or

1491
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:30,480
whatever.
So if all, if anything you do in

1492
01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:34,080
the digital world, they can
access essentially whenever they

1493
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:36,600
want, right?
Just by going through your

1494
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:40,760
browsing history, subpoenaing
ISP records, accessing your

1495
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:42,960
phone.
Not like if you're going to

1496
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:45,600
disclose something, you almost
have to come forward and say

1497
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:49,040
you're going to do it.
Because then if you don't say

1498
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,680
anything and then you don't say
you're not suicidal and you just

1499
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,320
die, it just looks like a
suicide.

1500
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,680
No one ever knows that you were
going to do so.

1501
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,600
No, that's why you got to not
say anything.

1502
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,120
You do it, you go on Joe Rogan,
you do it.

1503
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,080
And then you say at the end of
the episode, I'm not suicidal.

1504
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:09,720
Well, no, what I'm saying like
in the in the time that you're

1505
01:25:09,720 --> 01:25:14,560
doing that research, right and
everything they're gonna pick up

1506
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,120
that you're doing that research,
they're gonna know that

1507
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:20,000
disclosure's coming and they're
gonna whack you before you can

1508
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,840
go on Joe Rogan and say
something.

1509
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:23,760
So you have to come down who
does?

1510
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:26,200
I'm researching this.
I'm going to disclose this when

1511
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,080
I find out so that people are
now watching you, you know, so

1512
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,320
that like so like when they do
whack you or.

1513
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,360
When they do.
What I'm saying is when they do

1514
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:37,320
whack you, then people are like,
oh, there was something there

1515
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,680
they don't want to.
Know, yeah, but what are we

1516
01:25:39,680 --> 01:25:42,720
gonna do about it?
But figure it out for ourselves,

1517
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,800
essentially, right?
Like it's like they can whack

1518
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,720
one person immediately.
How, how many people would it

1519
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:53,280
take researching the same thing
at the same time before they

1520
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,960
couldn't kill everybody off
right?

1521
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:58,400
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, you could, you

1522
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:00,880
could look in the same thing
that the individual's talking

1523
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,200
about.
But what I'm saying is that

1524
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:04,520
there's there's not going to be
any ultimate justice.

1525
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:08,640
I mean, well in the afterlife,
but here on Earth, you're not

1526
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,360
going to have any ultimate
justice for someone like Amy

1527
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:17,120
Eskridge because a. 100%, but
also what she was, what she was

1528
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:20,400
working on doesn't get buried
underneath the sands, right?

1529
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:22,320
Because we knew she was working
on it.

1530
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:24,800
We knew she was going to
disclose, we knew she wasn't

1531
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,400
suicidal.
And now we know something is

1532
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:30,480
behind it.
So now more than Amy is going to

1533
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:32,360
look into it.
And if they start whacking those

1534
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,760
people, that number of people
just start growing

1535
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:38,440
exponentially.
Every person they whack that the

1536
01:26:38,440 --> 01:26:41,040
public knew they were looking
into something is going to breed

1537
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:45,320
2345678 a thousand people who
are now looking into the same

1538
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,960
thing.
You can't hit that many people

1539
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,480
without other people being like
something is there.

1540
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,520
Man, I hope they don't attack
armchair researchers because I'm

1541
01:26:54,520 --> 01:27:02,160
fucked They.
Have a Google search Bigfoot 0

1542
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:11,560
point gravity feet pics.
Send in the Clintons shit.

1543
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,440
All right.
You guys ready for the outro?

1544
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:17,400
Yeah, I suppose.
I'm ready for bed.

1545
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:21,040
All right that's it for
tonight's episode and quick hits

1546
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:24,760
Burchett saying on the record
that we are not alone after a

1547
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:28,440
source named names dates people
and locations in the classified

1548
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:32,400
breathing Neanderthals hunting
the women and children of rival

1549
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,840
groups 45,000 years ago in
Belgium.

1550
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,560
D flesh butchered process for
Morrow.

1551
01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,400
The most compelling evidence yet
for intergroup violence at the

1552
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,960
edge of their extinction.
The interstellar comet three eye

1553
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:48,120
Atlas revealing different
interior chemistry as a solar

1554
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,440
heating peels back its outer
layers on its way out of the

1555
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:56,360
solar system forever.
NASA catching a new moon crater

1556
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:01,360
forming in real time for the
first time in history in a

1557
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:07,080
Galaxy using its own gravity to
act as a cosmic lens, revealing

1558
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,440
the most magnified supernova
ever found.

1559
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:13,840
In briefing one, the Pentagon
missed the April 14th deadline

1560
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,240
with no delivery and no advanced
communication.

1561
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:18,720
Pluna called it quote.
How convenient.

1562
01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,640
The day after the Pentagon
issued a statement saying our

1563
01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:25,240
Arrow is working with the White
House to release never before

1564
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:30,200
seen UAP information saying
answer new language and alien

1565
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:35,000
that goes till dark.
In briefing 2 the Quantum week

1566
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:41,560
ion Q networked 2 commercial
quantum computers using photonic

1567
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,880
entanglement In partnership with
the Air Force Research

1568
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,200
Laboratory, NVIDIA launched
Icing the world's first open

1569
01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:52,720
source AI model family for
quantum error correction and

1570
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:57,360
calibration both on April 14th.
Jensen Hong, calling AI the

1571
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,800
operation the operating system
of quantum machines and in the

1572
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,600
deep dive, the count reached 10
with the addition of Stephen

1573
01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:09,560
Garcia, a nuclear weapons
contractor who vanished from

1574
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:13,520
Albuquerque in August 2025, the
4th person from that city to

1575
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,760
disappear in this pattern.
Huntsville authorities began

1576
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:20,840
reviewing the 2022 death of anti
gravity researcher Amy Eskridge

1577
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:24,320
as a possible 11th case.
The White House press secretary

1578
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:26,840
comp committed to looking into
it.

1579
01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:31,840
Trump said pretty serious stuff,
said he'd just left the meeting

1580
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,360
on the subject and said the
country would know something

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01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,240
within a week and a half.
We'll be here when the clock

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runs out.
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Hit that button.
Let's get there.

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Thank you one more time.
I'll be at Capcom on Saturday,

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01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,280
May 9th in Fond du Lac, WI at
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Links are in our social media

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We're back next week.

1596
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:22,200
Trump's week and a half timeline
will have run out and we'll find

1597
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,680
out what pretty serious stuff
actually means.

1598
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,720
Until then, keep your eyes open,
keep asking questions, and

1599
01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:30,800
remember the truth is out there.
You just have to know where to

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01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:33,000
look.
I'm Jeremy Socia and we'll see

1601
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,480
you at the next fork in the path
of the infinite rabbit hole.

1602
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,480
Bye everybody.
They're not telling us shit.

1603
01:30:39,480 --> 01:30:40,560
Bye, this is.
Interesting.

1604
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:45,320
Google and Safari will not let
me viewaliens.gov or alien.gov.

1605
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:48,240
It says it's a suspicious
website and will not allow me to

1606
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,400
advance even if I click yes
advance.

1607
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:53,040
Interesting.
Bye everyone, bye.

1608
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,320
Hey everybody, thanks for
checking out the Infinite Rabbit

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01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,360
Hole podcast.
If you're looking for more of

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you know when all the new stuff
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And until next time, travelers,
we'll see you right here and the

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next fork in the path of the
infinite rabbit hole.

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Goodbye.