Jake's not buying the alien framing — and his reason goes somewhere most UAP conversations don't. His theory: when disclosure finally happens and the government says "yes, aliens," that itself will be the cover story. What he thinks they're actually working with is demonic entities. His reasoning: the powers that be know the word "demon" would cause a complete societal collapse — religion, identity, everything people have built their worldview around. So they'll slowly roll out "aliens" instead, because aliens are digestible. Fallen angels are not. Jeremy's response: "That's a pretty crazy conspiracy, Jake." Jake: "I know. It's just my gut." He connects it directly to his Christian background and what he calls "the great deception" from Scripture. CJ and Jeremy don't entirely disagree.

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