Oct. 8, 2024

186. A Haunted Discussion w/ Alison of the REP Paranormal Team

Jeremy, Jake and Jeff welcome Alison Robinson, a seasoned paranormal investigator with the REP Paranormal Team, the REP Paranormal and Friends Podcast, and co-owner of the Paranormal Buzz Radio Network. The team dives into Alison's background in paranormal investigations, her experiences, they give their takes on the types of spirits that are often reported, the hosts share stories of haunted locations, and their childhood memories of creepy places. Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole! InfiniteRabbitHole.com

The Black Hole Series

Ever get lost in conversation with someone and the five minute encounter turns into a few hours of really deep and informative discussion? Well, that is what’s going on here. In our Black Hole Series, we sit down with some of the most brilliant and experienced minds in the community as well as experiencers of strange creatures or events and bring you their stories and research with their own words.

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Imagine that this line
represents a time in the present

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1985 Future Past.
Prior to this point in time,

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somewhere in the past, the
timeline skewed into this

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tangent, creating an alternate
1985 alternate to You need an

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Einstein from reality for
everyone else.

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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole podcast.

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I'm your host Jeremy, and today
we're going to sit down and talk

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to a special guest.
But before we do that, we're

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going to go ahead and bring in
the Co hosts of the show, Jacob.

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Yes, Sir.
We had ourselves some good food

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last night, man.
Dude, we did.

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So Jeremy and I and his kids did
fajitas on their fire pit

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outside.
So that was cool, real primal

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sort of experience.
The kids were super bored.

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It was awesome.
They're like, I want to play

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video games.
And we're like, no, it's just,

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it was rad, dude.
I I'm so stoked.

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I'm so excited.
Tomorrow is the opening day of

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squirrel season here in
Wisconsin and I've got Ava

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appointment and then I'm going
to go out and get me some tree

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rats.
I can't wait.

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I already, I already got all the
stuff for squirrel Stew.

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I told Whitney I was just like,
you're going to eat this with

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me, right?
And she's like, you're going to

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Stew it?
And I was like, yeah, she's

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like, OK, I'll eat it.
She's like, she's like, your

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rabbit Stew is great.
So I'm sure the squirrel Stew

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would be good too.
So excited for that.

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Yeah, me and Jeremy, the the
wives were out in Duluth, MN all

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weekend and they did like a
Oktoberfest sort of thing out

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there.
So it was just me and Jeremy and

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the kids kicking it.
So we did, he called it hobos.

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Basically anything in the
fridge, you just throw it in a

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tinfoil and wrap it up, throw it
on the fire.

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So it came out really good.
And then we did, we did the

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fajitas and stuff.
So yeah, it was, it was a really

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good weekend.
And then for me.

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Candy bars.
Everything.

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You know all that stuff we did
s'mores.

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So the kids love that freaking
Oh my gosh.

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Jace, his oldest son, right?
Jace, 10, he gets three pieces

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of fajita meat.
This like flank steak that's all

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sliced up.
He gets 3 pieces of that and

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like a maybe a single piece of
bell pepper, wraps it in a

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tortilla and he eats half of it
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trash.
He's like, I'm saving room for

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the s'mores.
Just like, Oh my gosh, there's

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no nutrients going into this
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It's crazy.
But no, it was, it was a great

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time we had.
We had a good time for sure.

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Great stuff.
Open fire fajitas.

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Phenomenal those jalapenos came
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Oh, my gosh, yeah.
You know, it's great.

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You, you put the jalapenos on
their whole, you know, get a

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nice char on all the sides,
slice them up, and like, all the

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heat's gone, right?
So you you get this, this, you

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get lulled into this false sense
of like, everything's good.

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And then the next day happens
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annihilates you.
Oops.

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All right, all right, let's,
let's move on.

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Let's move on to the guy that
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step for step.
Jeffrey, what's up, man?

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My stomach actually hurts right
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And no, I was not at the BBQ.
I live over 1000 miles away.

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But no, I'm I'm good man.
I'm here.

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Terrible excuse.
Here with this was it, tummy

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Wick.
You're an awful person.

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I'm.
Courage.

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It's all that raw cookie dough
you eat I.

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Shouldn't have.
I didn't have any cookie dough

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this time.
I wish I did.

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That'd probably make my tummy
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All right, well, he, he he
didn't match Jake.

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'S yeah, that's enough out of
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Shut up now.
Sorry.

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All right, let's get on to the
guest today investigating since

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2013.
She's the Co founder of the Rep

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Paranormal team, Rep Paranormal
and Friends podcast and the

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co-owner of the Paranormal Buzz
Radio radio network.

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It is my pleasure to introduce
you all to Allison tonight.

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Welcome to the infinite rabbit
hole, Allison.

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Thanks for having me, guys.
Welcome.

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It's a pleasure.
Yeah, absolutely.

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Absolutely.
So I was on her her podcast a

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little while ago before we did
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thing in July.
Had a good time.

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We talked, we had some good
conversation there.

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Check it out.
It's a good episode.

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But I wanted to reach out to you
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because I want to talk a little
bit about what you do and you

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know your specialties and your
background and and you know, I'm

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going to be honest with you for
a rabbit hole podcast don't

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cover the paranormal very much
when it comes to like spirits

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and ghosts and stuff like that.
So we're.

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Squares.
Terrible people.

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So, Allison, can you give us a
little bit of a, a background

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about you and what you do?
Yeah, sure.

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So I am a paranormal
investigator.

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I've been doing it since 2013.
Kind of started off when I was

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younger.
My mom said that I was always

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scared.
I always saw like a shadow

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figure near my bed.
And she's like, you know, you're

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little, you don't, you know,
whatever.

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But you know, sometimes I would
start laughing or crying or

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literally having a full on
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Sometimes it sounded like I was
talking in tongue, whatever.

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As I got older, I kind of
noticed it a little bit more,

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but I just kind of shrugged it
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And then we were playing, I
played slow pitch softball, got

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together with some girls, you
know, we've been drinking and

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stuff and we're like, hey, have
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murder house?
I'm like, yeah, like we should

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go like, absolutely, let's go
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So we, we got some really cheap
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I had a really old camcorder,
which I still use because it

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works great.
It's a night vision cassette

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tape 1, and we went there with
no expectations, not knowing

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what we were doing, and we've
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I mean, we did get some Evps
there, which was kind of, you

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know, interesting.
Got some names on there which

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were like, OK, not sure what
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And so we've been doing it ever
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Like we just started going out
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So we haven't really been a
whole lot of places out of Iowa,

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but, you know, we're just going
to kind of figure out these

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things.
We like to kind of debunk a lot

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of stuff.
You know, sometimes we're like,

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OK, are these people like just
setting up things for stuff to

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happen?
You know, when we're at a

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location just so they have
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to pay the money to go.
We haven't found anything like

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that yet, but I'm sure we'll
come upon it sometime or

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another.
But you know, and besides doing

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the paranormal, we have a
podcast that we do usually on

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Thursday nights, 87 Central, we
cover paranormal, we do near

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death experiences.
We have a lot of authors on

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anything and everything that
people want to talk about.

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So yeah, it's.
Kind of good stuff.

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Yeah, yeah, we we go quite a few
places.

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How many investigations would
you say you've done?

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Give me a rough, rough ballpark.
Maybe 50 or 60, maybe more.

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What's the best one you did?
Oh.

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Well.
Oh, that's so hard.

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Oh my God, that's so hard
because we have a place that's

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like our home away from home.
But we had a place this year,

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that 1858 Garnett House Hotel.
That place was insane.

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I didn't go in with any
expectations, guys like, oh, I

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can't be there to let you in.
I left the key there.

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I have to be at our other
location.

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So I'm like, OK, cool.
We have no history on the place.

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You know, whatever, we're just
going to roll with it.

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There's only three of us and we
had dolls flying off at us,

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balls coming out there was
walking.

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I've got walking up stairs.
It it was intense.

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One of the gals is like, I'm
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the Ramada Inn.
And I'm like, no, we paid for

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this.
We are staying here.

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Suck it up.
Like we are staying here.

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I literally probably slept 40
minutes the whole night like it

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was it was insane.
And I we couldn't figure out how

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these things were doing that.
I mean, I didn't see any strings

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or anything like that, you know,
I don't know it it was bizarre.

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I asked one.
I said I triple dog dare you to

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fall in Leslie's head.
Probably maybe 10-15 minutes

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later it fell on her head.
I don't know.

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Coincidence?
I don't know.

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Yeah.
Well, no one, even someone who

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died 1000 years ago.
No one can stop a triple dog

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dare.
You have to do it.

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It's the law.
Exactly it is.

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It is the law.
Afterlife.

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It's the law.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Do they even know what that?
Was or it taught us anything?

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Yeah, alright.
You guys document these like

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these events, you guys bring
cameras and stuff like that with

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you.
We do bring cameras a lot of

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times.
Kim actually has ADVR system

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with eight cameras, but we
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A lot of it was just on her
Facebook Live.

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I tried to roll my camcorder,
but it kept telling me there was

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an error.
I tried a new SD card.

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I everything would not work
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I finally did get it to work in
the morning, but it was weird

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because it said it wasn't
working.

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But I went back and there was
actual video on it.

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So I, I, I don't know.
But yeah, we try to document all

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this stuff and we write it all
down.

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So if we go back to that place,
we can kind of see if we can

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recreate that or if we get some
of the.

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Same.
Yeah.

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And get some of the same
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those responses.
So yeah, it's a lot of

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documenting.
So what?

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What part of the country are you
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We're actually from Iowa.
I'm from the US, Iowa

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Marshalltown.
Corn.

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Nothing but corn around here.
Yeah.

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You're not.
You're not far from Jake and

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Iowa.
We're northwestern Wisconsin.

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That's what I thought.
Yeah, a lot of corn.

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Tons of tons of corn, right?
Yeah, me and my me and my wife

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actually drove into Iowa a month
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And the gas station we stopped
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this sweet corn festival.
And there's people walking

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around with like those super
graphic teas and it was just

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corn kernels and stuff.
Where did we fall into?

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I love this place.
Yeah, there's absolutely nothing

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to do here.
It's awesome.

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Other than investigate.
Yeah, yeah.

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Well, you guys have a lot of
history there for sure.

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I mean, yeah, there.
I mean, I'm sure there is.

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Do I keep up with it in our
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No, I don't like there is
absolutely nothing here.

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We don't even have a mall
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That sucks.
Terrible.

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Whitney, my wife wants to know
if you do any Bunny bopping.

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No, can't say that I do any
Bunny bopping.

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What's Bunny bopping?
When she was growing up in

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Idaho, they would spotlight Jack
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with with.
That's what she did in the

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middle of nowhere Idaho.
I suppose so, she said.

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Maybe, I mean.
Stuff around here.

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Bunny Bobbin.
But Bunny Bobbin, my mom just

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said like cow tipping.
Like cow tipping, I said.

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Cow tipping.
Yeah, that's awesome.

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Oh man.
Are you anywhere near Vent?

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Are you anywhere near Van Meter?
Actually, that is over, yes, I'm

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about an hour and a half from
there from the meter I have been

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to Van Meter.
I did go to that festival, which

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was interesting.
That's.

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Going to be a cool festival.
It was actually not too bad.

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I mean, it's it's not like a
huge festival, but like did add

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some unique speakers and then
they take you on like a walking

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tour of where the van meter
creature thing supposedly was or

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whatever.
It's interesting.

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We should do it, Jeremy.
We should I was just going to

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say that we should make a trip
down to Van Meter and and go to

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that festival.
That sounds like a blast.

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That's one of my all time
favorite stories is the Van

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Meter visitor.
We covered with Jake about a

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year, year and a half ago and
there was actually just a new

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book written about it.
Jeez.

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What was his name?
I can't think of the author's

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name, but he I have.
Oh, Chad Lewis.

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Oh.
Yeah, yeah, Chad, Yeah, I've

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seen him talk before.
Yeah, he's cool back.

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Yeah, he, he just him, Noah Voss
and one other person, I can't

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remember, the other author just
dropped a new book on the Van

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Meter visitor.
And I mean, eventually I, like I

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said in the episode, I'll, I'll
be able to do a number 2 now.

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I definitely will.
Because Chad's really good at,

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at digging really deep for some
of the stuff that other people

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aren't going to find.
So, you know, love, love, love

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Chad.
But so, so you investigate a lot

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of it's, it's, it's tough to say
because in, in the community, we

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have a lot of people who call or
use the word paranormal as an

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umbrella term for anything
unknown, right?

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And then you have people that
are that are really hardcore

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into saying that paranormal is
strictly spirits, ghosts and the

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lot like that.
Others will.

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Say and and.
Demons.

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Oh, don't even go there.
Don't even go there.

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And it's not in my vocabulary.
So and then some people will use

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the, you know, the word
supernatural where paranormal

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would just mean everything under
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Bigfoot, cryptids, you know,
everything and anything.

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So excuse, excuse me if if I'm
not using, you know, the the

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preferred term.
But like I, like I said, we

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don't, we don't cover the
spirits too much here, but.

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Yeah.
Is there anything outside of

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spirits, ghosts, and demons that
that you guys look into?

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You know, I personally want to
really look into like Bigfoot

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and things like that.
Like I'm, I, you know, I just

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kind of want to see for myself.
I want to go out there and and

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into a wooded area and see if
there's anything like that.

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Now, if I could get the rest of
my team to do that, I highly

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doubt it.
Do I want to traipse through the

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forest by myself?
I don't know about that if I

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want to go into a wooded area by
myself, but I might.

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But that's something I'm
interested in doing.

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It's terrifying.
Let's go.

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Let's.
Do it.

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Mind lovingly scary?
Let's go do it.

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It's fun.
It would be fun.

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I think it would be fun.
You never know what you can run.

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Into you don't hit a run into a
Bigfoot, instead you get mauled

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to death by like a cougar or
something.

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I mean, like, yeah.
Yeah, that could be fun.

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You know, that could be fun.
You never know.

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You know, I'm in, I'm really big
into like I, I've always had a

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thing about UFOs and things like
that when I was younger.

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However, you know, nowadays I'm
like looking up there, you know,

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people see all these things and
I'm like, are they just seeing

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satellites?
There's so many stinking

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satellites up there.
Like how do you even know, you

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know, you know what I mean?
Like.

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Yeah.
I don't know.

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It's kind of sucks with all
those up there because you can't

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really tell anything anymore and
you never know.

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Just like the paranormal, you
don't know.

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Like you have to be, you have to
debunk everything.

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You never know.
You can't say it's really

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paranormal or not.
That's my thought anyways.

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Jake, are you not going to ask
her about the hipster ghosts?

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I was, I was going to get to I
was going to let it happen.

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All right.
So who do we have on the last

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time that I was talking to about
that?

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Skeeter.
Skeeter OK, yeah, so here's

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where I have the big issue.
So my mom will tell you she

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Christian woman, I'm a Christian
guy, but she grew up in a house

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in England.
She was a military brat, Dad was

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in the Air Force.
And this place, if it wasn't

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haunted, it was filled with
demonic activity, like she was

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getting pushed down the stairs.
The, the stove would turn on,

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you know, all that sort of
stuff.

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You know, towels get thrown on
the stove that's turned on type

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stuff, like all the sorts of
craziness.

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One day grandpa comes home from
work, grandma's home with the

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kids.
And you know, she's like, it was

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a really rough day.
And so he yells out into this

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house, if you don't stop this,
I'm going to burn this house to

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the ground.
And everything stopped until the

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point where they actually, like,
left there 'cause grandpa got

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reassigned back to the States.
Mm, hmm.

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Mm, hmm.
So basically the story was the

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lady went crazy, drowned her
kids in the tub, and then hung

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herself off of the banister.
Right?

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Like really hardcore stuff.
So years later, grandma and

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grandpa go back to England on
like, you know, hey, we're

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retired now.
We're going to go and visit some

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old places since they go back to
the military base.

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It was actually base housing.
And they find the exact same

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house.
And grandma goes up to the the

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door, knocks and and the lady
answers and say, hey, you know,

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we used to live here 30 years
ago, all this, her stuff,

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whatever.
And then she's like, is she

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still here?
And the lady's face goes white

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and she's like, you know about
her.

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So this place is like it's,
it's, it's filled with demons or

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taunted, whatever it is, right.
But up and down, left and right,

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you know, she doesn't believe in
ghosts and neither do I.

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And really, when it comes down
to it, the main reason why I

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don't believe in ghosts, even
though I've had plenty of

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experiences that would lead to
the person believing ghosts,

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right?
Being in the military, being on

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an old, old buildings that used
to be like psych wards and

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things like that.
Seeing some weird stuff,

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literally seeing light switches
flip themselves when I'm like on

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watch, I'm like had to keep the
lights on because if there's a

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fire, I can't have 300 people
stumbling around the dark.

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So you know, they can't see the
light from their bedrooms to the

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common area.
So the light switches in the

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hallway have to be on.
I'm literally like every time I

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get to the psych ward floor, all
of the freaking lights are off

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and I'm flicking them all on and
stuff like that.

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I'm sitting here.
I'm, I'm going to sit here and

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wait and wait for the guy who's
going to, who's playing a prank

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on me.
They're going to reach out the

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door and flip off the light
switch.

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And I literally watch all the
light switches drop by

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themselves.
I was like, I'm out, goodbye,

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you know, type stuff.
But.

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The problem?
Is for me is that though I've

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experienced a lot of stuff and
I've seen a lot of stuff when it

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comes down to people talking
about the paranormal, you know,

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ghosts, right, or spirits left
behind, unfinished business,

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that sort of stuff.
Whatever it is, they always have

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some sort of, you know, 18th
century, 17th century, 16th

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century, horrible murder, this,
that and the other.

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It's never the hipster that was
walking across the street

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dropped his vape, turned around
and picked it up and got hit by

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a bus, right?
It's never that guy.

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And and I brought it up to
Skeeters attention.

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I was like, statistically
speaking, 400,000 people die

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worldwide every single day from
and it's not people dying.

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You know, some people it's like
in the hospital surrounded by

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their loved ones.
It's, you know, sudden heart

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attacks.
It's car accidents, it's plane

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accidents.
You know, I'm a gun guy, but I

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hate to say it, it's gun
violence, right?

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It's.
Terrible.

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Horrible things.
The Civil War was awful.

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The Revolutionary War was awful.
There's, you know, genocides

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going on across the pond right
now in Africa all the freaking

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time.
If there was ghosts because of

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traumatic events, we would be
bumping into them, like rocking

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through sand at the beach.
They'd be crazy, right?

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So the thing I brought up, it
was just like, well, I have a

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hard time believing in ghosts
because it's always some like,

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oh, this one axe murder from way
back when.

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Instead of like, yeah, the
hipster or like those guys that

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you see on YouTube that are free
climbing skyscrapers and then

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just fall off, you know, just
like, and that's it.

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But it's just like you don't see
them.

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You know, people aren't
reporting seeing some like

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phantom figure climbing up a
skyscraper, right?

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So.
But.

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But then again, we haven't
really talked to, besides our

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old boss from the paranormal
network, we haven't really

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talked to a lot of paranormal
investigators.

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So can you lend any insight into
that?

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Like, have you seen any of that
stuff where it's it's maybe not

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so crazy or so old where it's
just like, yeah, I mean, it's

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pretty casual, but hey, this
place is haunted.

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No, I can't actually say.
I mean I haven't actually seen

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an actual full body apparition
or anything like that.

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I've seen a face of an older
woman, but I couldn't tell what

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period she was from.
She was just an older woman.

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Now, can I say that maybe I have
had connection with my grandpa

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who passed away just right
before COVID got some very

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interesting things from his
home.

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I mean, I asked him his
granddaughters names.

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He gave me Kenzie Cloy, which
those are his grandkids names.

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And and I asked him who the baby
was on the wall and he said me

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William, that's his name.
But you know, that's about it.

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I haven't actually seen like an
actual spirit or anything like

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that, that I can say that, you
know, I haven't had that

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experience yet.
And I when I want to absolutely.

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But you know, a lot of people
there was like it's a white

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flowing gown and or it's a man
with a tall black top hat or,

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you know, it's the same freaking
ghost.

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I'm like, I don't know, I don't
know about that.

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Like it gets me wondering too,
because, you know, why?

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Why would spirits now not be
around?

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But spirits from eons ago would
be, I don't know what people

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just are just saying that's what
they're seeing at these places

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because these places that
they're going to are from like

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the 1800s.
So they're like, oh, I'm going

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to see a ghost that's wearing,
you know, clothes that hatch

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that time period, you know, And
that could be a thing too, could

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be influencing what they're
seeing.

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I don't know.
In the last episode with

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Skeeter, I had brought up the
the possibility I, I have no

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idea.
I'm going to be honest with you

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that I'm, I'm lacking in my
research on on ghosts and

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whatnot.
That's OK, But I brought up the

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idea that there could be a
potential time frame buffer, if

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you will, right.
You got, you got to wait a

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certain amount of time before a
spirit does appear.

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It it may not be an
instantaneous thing.

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And that's why we see all of the
older it's, it's the waiting.

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Room in in.
Beetlejuice.

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00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,880
Beetlejuice.
Yeah, wait for a number of years

444
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:36,160
before you eat so.
But like, like we were saying,

445
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,440
you know, maybe wait 80 years
and then it it will be nothing

446
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,640
but hipsters, it could.
Be.

447
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,960
Yeah.
That could be.

448
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,640
That could be a possibility,
honestly, because in those

449
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,200
places they're going to say are
haunted from those eras or

450
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,200
whatever time periods, and then
that's what they're going to

451
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,760
see.
I wonder if that can just be

452
00:23:54,800 --> 00:24:00,280
influenced from the chat.
Willowen says for Allison, Do

453
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,720
you have a specific experience
that makes you truly believe in

454
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,920
ghosts?
I don't know.

455
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,280
Guess it'd probably be the
getting the feedback, huh?

456
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:13,600
But real quick, before that, for
those who died said, where did

457
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,560
shadow ban go?
That's a great question.

458
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,720
Where did he go?
Oh, he's.

459
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,480
Jeff stuff, he's garbage anyway,
That's why he says this.

460
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,360
This falls off the nap.
You know he's he's.

461
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:30,320
Pooping boys.
Got sorry dude, I'm sorry.

462
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,680
My stomach hurt, I had to jump
away.

463
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,280
I'm dying.
I'm dying.

464
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Jeremy, you need to leave right
now and go for a lottery right

465
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:47,480
now.
So that back to Bowen's

466
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,640
question, was there was there
one event that that sticks out

467
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,720
as like, hey, this, this
convinces me I I can't.

468
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,920
Say that I really have I mean
I've had things that have

469
00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:00,600
happened that I can't explain,
but does it make me be like, Oh

470
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,680
my God, there's spirits
everywhere like that's totally

471
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,320
legit thing.
No, I don't.

472
00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,400
I can't say that that I have had
an actual experience yet that

473
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,280
really makes me think that
there's actually spirits around.

474
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,160
I'm still trying to get that
proof, that information, just to

475
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,600
verify, you know, I don't know
why we get some of the

476
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,120
experiences that we have or the
Evps or anything like that.

477
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,920
I I can't explain it, but
doesn't make me think that

478
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,240
there's some spirit there.
No, not really.

479
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,440
I guess that's.
What separates you from being a

480
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,160
researcher versus an expert?
You know I.

481
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,040
Don't.
I don't say there's an expert.

482
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,160
Into this sort of a thing,
right?

483
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,880
Yeah, I'm going.
To say I'm ever an expert, I

484
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:45,280
don't think you could ever be.
An expert to zoology or

485
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,680
paranormal or UFO or or anything
like that, because all that

486
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,920
stuff is still unless it's like
I'm an expert in dogs because

487
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:57,040
dogs exist and I have dogs and I
train dogs, you know, things

488
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,920
like that, right?
That would be fair.

489
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,040
But you're an expert.
Anything that we cover, you

490
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,200
know, you cover, we cover here
on the infant rabbit hole would

491
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,520
just be a lie because we're all
just investigating because it's

492
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,920
like we don't know, you know,
we.

493
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,880
Won't still were.
There honestly like that's the

494
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,400
way it is right?
We either won't know until we

495
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,480
see a Bigfoot face to face and
find out if it can mind speak or

496
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,040
not right or whatever.
We won't.

497
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,600
Know about the afterlife until
we get there, and we won't know

498
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:32,120
about, you know, UFOs unless we
get sucked up into a freaking

499
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,800
UFO and probed in the butt and
then we'll be like, I got a

500
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,480
pretty.
Good.

501
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,560
Idea, you know?
Yeah.

502
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,720
I have proof.
Yeah.

503
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,640
All right.
So, I mean, could you imagine,

504
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,360
though, like 100 years from now,
investigators or researchers are

505
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,720
looking at all these hipster
ghosts, and they're like, ghosts

506
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,000
aren't real, dude.
Why is it never a Victorian

507
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,880
person You know from like 203
hundred, 400 years?

508
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,160
Like a coffee, it's it's always.
These hips or douche bags from

509
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,960
a. 100 years ago, yeah.
Oh man, where's?

510
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,240
My bait, bro.
Come on bro, where's my bait?

511
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,440
Can we squeeze some juice from
you bro?

512
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,760
Yeah.
You ever heard of steampunk bro?

513
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,440
Totally.
Put some copper copper lugs on

514
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
your hat.
It'd be so steampunk, bro.

515
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,360
Now the next investigation I'm
going to core.

516
00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,960
Are there any hipster ghosts
here?

517
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,160
Why are you drinking soda?
You should be drinking tea, bro.

518
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,320
Come on.
Like, OK, please leave me alone.

519
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,640
Please.
Whatever I got to do to make you

520
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,400
pass on, leave me alone.
Daddy likes.

521
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,920
His Pepsi.
All right, Daddy.

522
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:58,400
Here All right so one of the few
things Jake and I do agree with

523
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,600
is I I don't think there's
really any experts in this field

524
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,040
You have a lot of people that
claim to be experts, right yeah

525
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,360
we're all researchers because
nobody has the solid evidence to

526
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,480
prove any of this because then
it would be proven right right

527
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:17,760
but we can speculate what do you
think all of this is when it

528
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,640
comes to ghosts and spirits and
such I I.

529
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,120
Honestly don't know, that's what
I'm still trying to figure out.

530
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,560
Like, I mean, I'm sure there's
some science or like our mind,

531
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,400
like we're, you know, sometimes
I feel like we can be influenced

532
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,200
by a location too.
Like sometimes maybe we're just,

533
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:40,160
we're there and we kind of, oh,
what's the word I'm looking for?

534
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,800
I can't think.
But like sometimes I think our

535
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,000
mind can play tricks on us, like
our influence us, like, oh,

536
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,120
we're here.
You know, people have had this

537
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,600
happen or this and that.
And so sometimes, you know, we

538
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,480
might get into that factor where
we're like, did I hear that?

539
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,800
Oh, yeah.
And then you say, oh, did you

540
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,320
hear this?
And then the next person's like,

541
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,080
yeah, I heard that.
What did you hear?

542
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:02,800
You know?
And then you kind of, you know

543
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,400
what I mean?
So a lot of that happens, too.

544
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,360
So you really got to just write
everything down over there in

545
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,120
the corner.
He's like, I don't want to be

546
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,680
the only one that didn't hear
anything.

547
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,600
So yeah, I heard it too, right?
Yeah.

548
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,560
Exactly.
Yeah, there's a lot of that

549
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,120
going on too.
I know that for sure.

550
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,720
There was a hilarious SNL bit
back when they're funny like 10

551
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,840
years ago that I was watching
that was ripping on all the

552
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,600
ghost hunter shows.
And it was like all, all the

553
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,080
lead cast members, but they're
in this room and someone like

554
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,200
tripped over something and
they're like, did you hear that?

555
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800
And then all I got like, you
know, they're all painted green

556
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,880
because of the, because of the
night vision on the, the old

557
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,120
camcorders, right?
Yeah.

558
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,200
And they're like, yeah, I did
hear that.

559
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,320
Oh, I heard that too.
Oh, I heard that.

560
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,240
And then one of them, like one
of them had a infrared or sorry,

561
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,760
a call like a heat sensitive
camera.

562
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,040
Is that infrared?
No, whatever.

563
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,520
But anyway, so they have like a
flare.

564
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,240
A flare thermal Cam.
Yeah, one of the.

565
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,360
Signatures.
Yeah, one of the guys, he's so

566
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,280
so he farts, right?
And there's just this cloud, but

567
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,200
and it comes, you know what
you're talking about.

568
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:14,400
The guy.
In the face.

569
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,560
And he's just like, he's like,
I'm getting a strong smell of

570
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,960
sulfur.
And the guy's like, all right,

571
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,040
you know, calm down.
It's just like, you know, it's,

572
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,360
it's not that big a deal.
It's like, oh, I smell it too.

573
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Oh, it's sulfur.
It's sulfur from hell or

574
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,960
something like that.
They're all freaking out.

575
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,080
He's like, Oh my God, I farted,
all right?

576
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400
It's like this whole thing,
they're just ripping on all

577
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,760
these freaking, all these goats
hunting shows and stuff.

578
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,960
And it was like, gosh, it was,
it was great.

579
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,040
Yeah.
Smells are hilarious and it's.

580
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,800
Funny too, because we had a
well, it's not funny, but we had

581
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,400
a Co host on here.
He's taking a break right now.

582
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:55,240
But CJ and he was really big
into the occult and.

583
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,920
Through that.
Process he got really big into

584
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,280
the paranormal and ghosts and
things like that and so he has

585
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,240
all that equipment and so he's
actually told me from time to

586
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,680
time it's like bro, I will say
the word I will ship you all of

587
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,840
my equipment and you go out
wherever you want to go.

588
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,240
Like right here in Menominee,
Wisconsin, we have the what's

589
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,840
that theater?
The the Mabel.

590
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,400
Tanner, Mabel.
Tanner and it's supposed to be

591
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,520
super haunted and stuff, but
it's really old.

592
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,480
I mean, I don't care about any
of that.

593
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,640
The architecture is beautiful on
this gorgeous, right?

594
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,680
Like you'd see an old cathedral
in like England and just be

595
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,080
like, you know, it's just
amazing, right?

596
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,800
And so, but he was like, it
would be really fun for you as

597
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,320
someone who's such a skeptic
into all this to go in and set

598
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,360
all this equipment up and just
see what happens, right?

599
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:49,000
Versus like relying on other
people that are, you know, on

600
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,440
the shows all over Discovery
Channel or History Channel or

601
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,440
whatever it is and just being
like, all right, whatever, you

602
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,800
know, oh, there's a loud noise.
Like no one behind the camera

603
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,600
just banged the cabinet real
quick, right?

604
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,840
So it's like, it's interesting
hearing you say that too, when

605
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,520
right at the beginning of the
questioning that you y'all went

606
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,760
into that spot and you're like,
yeah, we had the dolls flying

607
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,760
off and all that stuff.
And I didn't see any wires or

608
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,080
anything.
And you even said that you're

609
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,960
like, you know, do these people
just kind of put on a show just

610
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,280
for entertainment and stuff,
right?

611
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,120
So that's that's cool to hear
you say that.

612
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,880
Yeah.
Oh yeah, for sure.

613
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Because I mean, you have to kind
of look into those things

614
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,400
because some people, you know,
I've seen it on the shows, you

615
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,560
know, where they have gone in
and people were just trying to

616
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,440
get attention and get people
there and be on a show, you

617
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,440
know, to get attention to their
bar or whatever.

618
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,840
So you never know if somebody's
going to go in and try to fake

619
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,880
this stuff.
So then that way it gets out in

620
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:52,160
the public and then, oh, hey,
ATV show wants to come in and

621
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,480
you know what I mean?
And give them more publicity and

622
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,560
then they Jack up the prices.
Like you just, you just never,

623
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,360
you never know.
So that's why you've always got

624
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,800
to just kind of check everything
out, scope everything out, check

625
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,320
for maintenance wires, anything,
you know what I mean?

626
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,120
Like you got you got to check
that stuff out I.

627
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,440
I screen shared for a minute and
showed everybody the Mabel

628
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,200
Tainter I was wondering.
What was going on?

629
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,160
Like what is going on with my
screen right?

630
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,000
Yeah, it's a, It's a, it's an.
Absolutely beautiful place.

631
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,080
I love that place.
We yeah, that.

632
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,400
Looked really cool.
Mm, hmm, yeah, it's.

633
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,480
It's funny because around here,
you know, when they, you know,

634
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,640
somebody finds out about the
show, they're always like, you

635
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,440
should go investigate the Mabel
Tainter.

636
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,960
It's like, man, I don't know
anything about that.

637
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,960
Like I'd just go there, be like,
hey, are are you here?

638
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,040
Is it you?
No, All right.

639
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:48,320
Bye.
But yeah, no, CJ, CJ has told us

640
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,320
multiple times that he would
send out his equipment.

641
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,040
You know, I don't know, Maybe,
maybe one day.

642
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,360
Maybe one day if somebody wants
to see that, it'd probably be

643
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:56,920
hilarious.
Oh yeah, it would be.

644
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Actually like healthy it goes
face to face and tell him he's

645
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:06,160
not real like I don't care all.
Right Hefe Cool.

646
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,840
You got to say things, dude.
Say things, say something.

647
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,320
What do you want me to say?
Man, I'm just not.

648
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,880
Trying something, Another
dimension, Something you say?

649
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,280
Tell us how it's the government.
Yeah, it's definitely.

650
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,040
Not the government.
The government is not smart

651
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,639
enough to pull off of something
like.

652
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:29,880
All right, but.
Yeah, it could be some

653
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,159
multinational corporations doing
some weird shit with some

654
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:36,679
Project Looking Glass or some,
some weird like, I don't know.

655
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,560
I don't personally think it's
ghosts because I kind of get the

656
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,199
same vibe.
Like why is it always ghosts

657
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,480
from like certain eras, at least
it seems.

658
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,760
And it's always like the same
type of thing that these these

659
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,239
hauntings are like there's a
spot here in Florida that's

660
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,920
like, I don't know, 30 minutes
for me.

661
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,440
And it's apparently like the
most haunted place in Florida,

662
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,200
Cassadaga.
And like, I've been there a

663
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,080
handful of times and it's just a
couple of psychic readers and

664
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,160
like a bar, some of those
people.

665
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,600
But.
Yeah, it's like, I don't know

666
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:10,480
it.
I don't.

667
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,120
It doesn't ever hit me even like
in the movie.

668
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,320
Maybe it's the movie's fault, to
be honest, because like every

669
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,160
time I watch like a ghost movie,
I'm like, this is stupid.

670
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,880
It's not scary.
So maybe it's ruined it for me,

671
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,840
but.
Man, I watched the the newest

672
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,480
paranormal activity and I see
the the ghost is like jangling

673
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,320
the pots and pans around at
night.

674
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,640
I'm like first night I throw the
husband through the second story

675
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,720
window.
Like get out of my house right?

676
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,600
I'm like, I'm not playing with
this stuff.

677
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:44,520
Yeah, I don't know.
I, I do think that there's like

678
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:48,920
intersection and cross over
between like dimensions and

679
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,440
stuff.
So I'm not saying that like

680
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,680
phenomena isn't happening.
I just don't necessarily think

681
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,520
that it's like ghosts of other
people in the past.

682
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,000
It might be some other, you
know, weird.

683
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,800
Shit going on, I don't know,
interdimensional?

684
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,560
Interdimensional.
Psychic vampires fucking around

685
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,040
you.
Know yeah, Alex Jones is right.

686
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,480
Yeah, well.
Allison, I don't know if you

687
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,920
picked up on the concept of the
show yet, but we have a tinfoil

688
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,520
hat guy.
We have a skeptic.

689
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,400
Oh yeah, of course.
Myself, who just kind of likes

690
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,720
to talk about it, so there.
So there's a thing here.

691
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,200
Yeah, that's good.
That's all.

692
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,480
Right.
That's all right.

693
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,840
I mean, I've had plenty of share
of different kind of people on

694
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,240
our show too.
So it's all good, but.

695
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,760
So I win, my mom says.
I've had so many close

696
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,600
encounters.
So sorry Jeff is wrong.

697
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:39,960
Well, again.
I'm not saying like the

698
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,440
phenomena is not happening, I
just don't know if it's.

699
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,880
Nope, you're wrong.
It's Frank.

700
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:50,000
From 1800 doing this, it's
something else happened, yeah.

701
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,800
You're wrong, Jeff.
I think you're wrong.

702
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,800
Mom's always.
No, I guess so.

703
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,680
That's right.
Damn straight, she says.

704
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:03,040
I live in a haunted house, so
yeah, there you go.

705
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,960
Fuck it, Jeff, you don't know
nothing.

706
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,960
I went on one ghost hunting trip
back when I lived in St.

707
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:17,120
Petersburg, FL.
We went to the Venoy Hotel and

708
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,880
apparently they had done some
ghost hunters episode or

709
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,640
something of the sorts there
too.

710
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,120
And this, this guy was like you
just you have to check it out.

711
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,960
You have to check it out.
It's creepy.

712
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,760
Come with our crew.
You know, you'll change your

713
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,960
mind because honestly, you know,
I, I'm, I'm always the guy

714
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,240
that's like, man, you know, I
don't necessarily believe in it,

715
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:41,960
but you know, if you say you saw
it, then I'll give you the time

716
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,480
of day to, to talk and we'll
discuss it.

717
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,400
Right, right.
So same, same thing.

718
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,280
Always been like that.
And I was like, yeah, you know,

719
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,720
you know, same thing.
Not, not really a a big fan or,

720
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:56,800
or like really know too much
about the, the paranormal, but

721
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,680
you know, convinced me.
So let's go.

722
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,280
Went there absolutely nothing
happened, absolutely nothing

723
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,600
happened and he and he was like,
man, I don't know what's going

724
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,960
on.
They're they're usually like

725
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:10,640
super, super busy and it's like,
man, I don't I don't know, but

726
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,680
it's it's a it was a nice hotel.
It was really cool and they they

727
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,720
were nice enough to let us go in
there and kind of check out some

728
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:20,280
of the, the, the areas that
aren't really, you know, open to

729
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,760
the public like the, you know,
where the staff go and

730
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,400
everything.
But yeah, we didn't, we didn't

731
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,520
see anything.
Actually, I could probably

732
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,160
screen share some pictures of
annoy there's.

733
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,320
I mean, there's so many times
that we've been on an

734
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,000
investigation, we don't get
anything.

735
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,120
It's like just sitting there in
the dark watching freaking

736
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:39,400
darkness.
The whole 812, whatever hours we

737
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,440
do it, we don't get anything
every time.

738
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,560
Like or sometimes we might get
something very small and we're

739
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,920
like, that's nothing like they
don't, you know, if you're

740
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,480
having, there's not always going
to be phenomenon or activity or

741
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,240
anything like that.
When you go to a location,

742
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,560
there's just, it's just not like
that.

743
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,160
It's very random.
And some people they say that

744
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,800
they get it all the time.
Do they really?

745
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,600
I don't know.
Or did they say that?

746
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,800
So people will come to the
location, you know, that's

747
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,400
another thing, so.
But like, I, I feel like

748
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,320
somebody's got some sort of
evidence out there or has some

749
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:17,760
kind of hookup where they can
take us and change our mind.

750
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,640
Or, you know, I, I don't think
you could change Jake's mind.

751
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,160
I think he's pretty much sat in
his way.

752
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,840
No, no matter what you show him,
he's going to be like, yeah,

753
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,080
demonic, but.
Demonic but if if.

754
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,240
Somebody, if somebody knows a
hotspot and they're like, yeah,

755
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:41,120
you will 100% have some sort of
encounter and it'll get your

756
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,800
mind thinking, I'm 100% down.
I want to see it right?

757
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,960
I want to see what everyone else
is talking about.

758
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,520
But check.
Out that Garnett place, there's

759
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,680
been a lot of weird stuff.
I I had the previous owner on

760
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,000
years ago, Rob Garcia.
There's a new owner now, but

761
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,800
even when he was taking care of
the place, like some of the

762
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,920
stuff was just like, what is
going on?

763
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,680
I I don't know, we've only been
there one time, so I can't

764
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,120
really say, you know, we had
stuff happen, but will it happen

765
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,280
again if we go there?
I couldn't tell you if it will

766
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,960
or not.
Malvern seems to be fairly

767
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:19,160
decent, but that's that's we go
there a lot so.

768
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:24,880
Jake, Jake's mom said, you know
she, she's talking about she's

769
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,760
she agrees is demonic and that
demonic isn't fake.

770
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,440
I, I don't disagree with you.
I don't, no, there's.

771
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,880
Negative or had to each other.
I've never.

772
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,440
Had this experience.
I should have.

773
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:42,480
Taken you to the Wolf Manor back
when we got first got started it

774
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,400
was it was probably still up.
So there's this place where I

775
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,800
grew up in Fresno, CA called the
Wolf Manor and it used to be a

776
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:55,000
mansion and then it got turned
into an insane asylum or not

777
00:40:55,040 --> 00:41:01,480
sorry not an insane asylum.
It got turned into a like a, a

778
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,560
home for the like a retirement
home type thing, right?

779
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,680
But there was like 3 staff
members to every hundred

780
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,000
patients, right?
And then eventually they just

781
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:18,640
left and left like 300 elderly
people inside of this house just

782
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,600
starving to death, laying in
their own feces.

783
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,520
It's disgustingly horrible.
It's awful.

784
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:31,720
All of them died and then they
came in, you know, like people

785
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,640
were like trying to do welfare
checks and finally a place came

786
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,400
in and saw this sort of stuff.
It was just absolutely

787
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,800
atrocious.
And there were so many lawsuits

788
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:45,080
against this property that no
one would would buy it.

789
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,120
And I remember going to school
when I was a kid and it

790
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,520
literally said free Wolf Manor,
like it was for free.

791
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,320
But if you took over the
ownership of the home or the the

792
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,360
mansion, you would also take on
the $20 million lawsuit or

793
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,440
whatever it was, right, For all
the wonderful death suits and

794
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,000
all that sort of stuff, right?
So there's no way.

795
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,520
And eventually someone bought it
and they, excuse me, they turned

796
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:14,920
it into a like a ghost tour type
stuff because if anywhere's

797
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,360
going to be haunted, it's going
to be this place, right?

798
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,960
And then eventually got torn
down.

799
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,280
And I think they put like a
Walmart on top of it or

800
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,000
something like that.
Whatever they do, you know,

801
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,960
because it's California,
definitely there.

802
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,000
My mom says it was a skilled
nursing facility.

803
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,200
Dad picked up a bunch of dead
and dying patients there for

804
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,120
years when he was a paramedic.
He said it was the worst he'd

805
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,960
ever seen.
So that's my dad.

806
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,440
So, she said it's a costume now,
so.

807
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,280
Yeah, so.
It's yeah.

808
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,960
So they they demolished the
building, but it was this like

809
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,320
stain on the community for
decades, right.

810
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,720
And that would have been like
the perfect place to go.

811
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,320
I'm not saying it would change
your mind or we would experience

812
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,720
anything or whatever it is.
But if I can think of one place

813
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:06,880
that would be like, tremendously
haunted or demonically

814
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,920
influenced or oppressed or
whatever it is, it would be that

815
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,840
place.
Right?

816
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,240
Yeah.
Oh, for.

817
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:15,920
Sure.
Yeah, my mom.

818
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,080
Says the hair on the back of
your neck stood up just driving

819
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,760
by.
It's pretty gross.

820
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,240
It's a haunted.
Costco, Yeah.

821
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,960
Indian burial ground under a
Costco.

822
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,360
Yeah, there you go.
So I grew up in AI, grew up in

823
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,160
the town in Middletown, CT.
That's where I was born.

824
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,480
And I, I was there until the,
the summer between my sophomore

825
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,840
and junior year of high school.
And when I hit high school,

826
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,680
there was this place that we
used to always go to.

827
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,960
It was called the Connecticut
Valley Hospital or CVH for

828
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:55,320
short.
And this place was was shut

829
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:02,000
down, abandoned way before, you
know, I got there and let me

830
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,800
tell you, the creepiness of this
place was nuts.

831
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,280
I mean, we used to just go there
and do stupid kid shit, right,

832
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,080
right, Hide and go seek.
I would never do any

833
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,880
recreational drugs ever in my
life.

834
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,120
But if I did, I would go there,
right.

835
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,280
You know, kids go there to make
out all the time It but it's

836
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,320
it's super creepy.
I actually, we went down there

837
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:28,560
one time and we went into the
basement and there is this huge

838
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,680
cement slab down there and you
know, this, this one kid, I'm

839
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:34,960
not going to put his name out
there.

840
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:41,920
His name was Dane.
He, he would tell me he would be

841
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,040
like, you know, you know, how
many people had lobotomies on

842
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,120
this, this slab or how many
peoples had autopsies And you

843
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,240
can see the drains next to it
and everything.

844
00:44:51,240 --> 00:44:53,800
It's like, Dang, man, the amount
of blood that went down this,

845
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,960
but the Connecticut Valley
Hospital was a mental institute

846
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,320
and it, it, there was a lot of
really, really creepy stuff.

847
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,200
I actually pulled it up here for
you guys.

848
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,560
This same thing I've been doing
with everything else, right?

849
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,880
This this is what I used to go
and hang out at some nights.

850
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,080
It was super, super weird,
right?

851
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,200
Look at look at look at this
Yeah.

852
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,280
I mean, that's very cool.
There was some some really,

853
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,000
really weird stuff going on
here.

854
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:29,000
I never witness anything super
strange myself, but the stories

855
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,440
that come out of this, I wonder
if it's still available to go

856
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,560
check out because that would be
something that I would go and do

857
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,000
research at or do an
investigation at.

858
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,680
I mean, this was for sure.
Oh yeah, it was on.

859
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,480
It.
Was on Silver Street in

860
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,560
Middletown, CT and we used to go
there all the time.

861
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,480
I mean, but this like, yeah,
there there were holes in the

862
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,920
floors and like, you know,
easily could have died when

863
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:59,960
nobody would have known easily.
Fallen to do this, yeah.

864
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,840
Especially, you know, in, in
the, the shape I was in at the

865
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:09,400
time, you know, 'cause I again,
I've, I've never done any

866
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,400
recreational drugs.
But if I did, then it would have

867
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,720
been it would have been really
bad.

868
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,720
Allegedly.
Allegedly.

869
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:23,360
Yeah, allegedly.
But yeah, that's, that's one of

870
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,160
the places that I personally
would like to go back to

871
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,520
investigate because I, I don't
know, does every time that I've

872
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,960
ever talked to anybody about
hauntings or what not, it's

873
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,120
always come up in my mind.
And, you know, sometimes I bring

874
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,760
it up and it's like, man, I just
tell the story of that slab.

875
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,840
That slab is just terrifying.
And there's this like 1 little

876
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,040
basement window just like in any
basement where you have like the

877
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,680
the quarter size window like up
at.

878
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,480
The very top.
By the ceiling, it just had one

879
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,600
of those with like the moonlight
shining in.

880
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,920
It's just absolutely petrifying
and creepy.

881
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,920
And then you have this guy Dane
sitting there telling you over

882
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960
and over again about how much
blood that went down the drains

883
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,800
and lobotomies that happened.
And it's like, man, dude.

884
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,520
Yeah, if.
I did recreational drugs, this

885
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:20,240
would be a great place to do it.
My mom said from that story I

886
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:23,680
told about her in England, she
said we lived in the Martin

887
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,160
Place in Hawkwold, England for
two years.

888
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,600
I got, she said I got pushed
down the stairs, locked in the

889
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,640
house, furniture moved by
itself, lights on and off.

890
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,800
She said it's a daycare now.
Oh my.

891
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,520
Gosh.
Oh.

892
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,240
No, those kids are going to be
screwed.

893
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,240
One of my my.
Skepticism too, right, is like

894
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,840
there's so many places, like
I've lived in a lot of places.

895
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,080
I move almost every year.
Every time the lease is up, I

896
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,240
move.
It seems like I've lived in a

897
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:58,840
lot of places that were built in
like, I don't know, the 50s,

898
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,680
sixties.
So you would imagine that I've

899
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,800
at least lived in a couple of
places where like some traumatic

900
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,920
events may have happened.
And yeah, like I've never seen

901
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,360
it.
You would just, I, I would think

902
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,120
that there would be more of it.
If there's a lot of old

903
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,360
buildings, there's a lot of
older houses that people live in

904
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,120
every day, or there's daycares
or Costco's in.

905
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:19,880
So.
I.

906
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:22,360
Think everybody.
'S going to be.

907
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,760
Investigating in the next few.
Years as a Costco.

908
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,280
That's right.
That's.

909
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,760
Right sample.
Where'd you get that free

910
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,000
sample?
Oh, from that?

911
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,720
That booth over there.
What booth?

912
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,440
But Dang, some good stuff.
And like.

913
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,880
Being ostracized by like saying
something, you know, like, oh, I

914
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,520
saw, I could go, I saw something
weird and you know, whatever.

915
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,360
But it just seems like the the
amount of it seems lesser than

916
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:55,320
it should be if it's based off
of like what you would think it

917
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:56,680
is, right?
Like traumatic events or

918
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,960
somebody died here or like
something like that, right?

919
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,200
But that's what, that's what
leads me to believe that it,

920
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,920
it's probably something
different, right?

921
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,080
I mean, Jeff and I probably
align somewhat on this because

922
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,520
I, I believe that if it is a, a
real phenomenon that it probably

923
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,840
has to do with something with
bleeding dimensions or inner or

924
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,600
right, you know, multiple planes
of existence, you know, coming

925
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,120
into contact with each other or
something along the lines.

926
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:27,760
And in between those planes of
existing time kind of is, you

927
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,520
know, weird.
It doesn't, it's not linear like

928
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,200
it or it doesn't.
We can't see time linear through

929
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,840
other worlds, you know, other
parallel worlds.

930
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:44,400
So we see it in that, that
repetitive Groundhog Day pattern

931
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,840
that a lot of people will report
when it comes to ghosts and

932
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,360
spirits, right?
Because a lot of people will

933
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,280
report that they, they see
something and it's always a,

934
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,320
it's at, it's 2:11 in the
morning.

935
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,320
She's going to be coming down
the stairs and here she comes,

936
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,640
right.
Right now, I'm not saying that's

937
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:05,560
absolutely the case, but I, I, I
definitely think that in my, in

938
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,240
my mind, with the research that
I've done, the things that I

939
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:11,320
believe in, I, I think that
that's more along the lines of

940
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,920
my beliefs and in this whole
thing.

941
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,920
It's like the movie The Others
where you're seeing all these

942
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,600
things, but instead of them
being the ghost, you're the

943
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,680
ghost and they're the people
that are moving into your house.

944
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,360
That's a movie you should watch.
I know you haven't watched it,

945
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,080
but you should.
I I haven't.

946
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,520
Definitely haven't.
Watched it either, I don't.

947
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,640
I've never seen Star Trek.
It's a good.

948
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,920
Movie, Yeah.
I'm not into Star Trek.

949
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:37,960
Yeah, I.
Catch it for it all the time.

950
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:45,280
Yeah, Star Trek and Obi Wan and
and the ring, right?

951
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,360
They get the ring, they get the
ring and they're like, don't

952
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,520
don't take the ring from me.
And then the guy takes the ring

953
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,240
and then they get mad.
So they take out their

954
00:50:53,240 --> 00:50:56,640
lightsabers, right?
Right, my Lord.

955
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:57,840
Yep, you.
Got it.

956
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,880
Yeah, sure.
OK, you got it.

957
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,400
Yep, Yep, 1. 100 Sir Allison.
He's not.

958
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,600
I could be AI, could be a
Hollywood writer.

959
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,120
Simple in.
These movies, Yeah, no.

960
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,000
Simple.
Wow.

961
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,840
Anyways, yeah, this is what it
is.

962
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,920
Anyways, what was I going to say
before you guys rudely

963
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,640
interrupted me?
I don't know.

964
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,800
Yeah, we got a dead spot in the
whole show.

965
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:27,640
Thanks, guys.
That's not.

966
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,560
Good, that's not a dead.
Spot.

967
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,400
You made it a dead spot.
Nope.

968
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,200
Talking about.
Ropes and lightsabers and.

969
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:43,280
Yeah, is what it is.
Do we have any questions from

970
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,040
the chat?
Anybody in the chat?

971
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:47,800
Send us some questions.
Let's let's ask more questions.

972
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:50,200
I know Allison's got to get out
of here.

973
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,440
We're already we'll.
Wait, you're a dead spot.

974
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,640
I am.
Thanks, Wolens.

975
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,600
Appreciate you.
Love you too.

976
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,160
Yep.
All right.

977
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,400
Well, we'll, we'll go ahead and
give the the chat a second to

978
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,720
come up with any questions that
they possibly could have.

979
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,000
Jake, Jeff, do you guys have
anything else for Allison before

980
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,240
we let her go?
No, not really.

981
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:19,600
I appreciate you coming on.
I don't obviously don't take my

982
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,880
skepticism, you know.
Oh, I.

983
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,160
Don't.
Don't worry about it.

984
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:24,920
No offense.
Or anything obviously, right.

985
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,320
I'm all about the research.
I just.

986
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:28,280
Right.
Yeah.

987
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:29,800
Nope, totally.
I don't.

988
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,640
It doesn't bother me at all.
So see, that's not how.

989
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,440
You approach Jeff, you say
thanks, Jeff, you ruined my

990
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,880
life.
Everything that I've worked for

991
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:39,600
is just down the drain because
you said some stuff.

992
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,880
I just thinks like this.
Maybe or.

993
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:43,800
There you go.
Yeah, yeah.

994
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,000
Gosh.
My.

995
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,800
Eye here I.
Don't know why my eyes are so

996
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,360
itchy right now.
It's crazy.

997
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,200
No Allison, thank you so much
for coming on.

998
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,360
I appreciate you being light
hearted about it, being able to

999
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,480
crack jokes and stuff.
And I, and I hope you're

1000
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,400
horribly offended by everything
I said.

1001
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,440
Yeah, no.
I mean, you hear this stuff all

1002
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,000
the time, so I'm used to it.
I don't really care.

1003
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,120
Yeah, just be.
Super offended.

1004
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,840
I hope you think about it later,
like a month.

1005
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:12,880
Sure, I'm going to.
I'm going to be like murdering

1006
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:13,840
you in my dreams.
I'm going.

1007
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,400
To murder.
You in my dreams because that's,

1008
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,240
that's one thing I do love Mr.
Crime.

1009
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:22,320
I love it too.
I've.

1010
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,560
I love it so much.
I've been dreaming about it.

1011
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,680
It's been bad.
Like, have I ever talked to the

1012
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,960
cops?
It's all allegedly Zen.

1013
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:34,480
Someone may have fed one time
like like I watch all the the

1014
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:39,880
YouTube explore with us like
police interrogations and stuff.

1015
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,720
Oh my gosh self-defense.
But I still chopped them up and

1016
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:46,880
burned the bottom.
Right.

1017
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,080
Yeah, sure.
Gosh, people are.

1018
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,320
Vile.
It's so bad but I love it.

1019
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,280
I can't get enough of it.
It's like.

1020
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,240
For me.
It's it's watching these people

1021
00:53:59,240 --> 00:54:01,720
trying to lie themselves out of
it and then just getting

1022
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:05,640
hammered with like a death
sentence or a lifetime in

1023
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,520
prison, Right.
And I'm like, Oh yes.

1024
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,080
I know I don't know, like if
I've had, it's kind of weird,

1025
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,400
you know, I'm a little weird
like this.

1026
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,240
But if I've had a really
stressful day, I like to come

1027
00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:16,960
home and have a glass of wine,
watch true crime.

1028
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:18,480
That's exactly what I do.
I'd rather.

1029
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:21,880
I.
Will I will binge watch that

1030
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:23,360
killed his whole.
Family.

1031
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,000
Yeah, right.
Rough.

1032
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,920
It's like CSI, but, you know,
real goodness.

1033
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:37,080
Yeah.
Speaking of true crime, we

1034
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,720
haven't we have a nice little
streak going here on the live

1035
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:44,640
shows where I I give a little
insight into the future of the

1036
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,600
show and a possible episode
upcoming.

1037
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:53,720
We may be diving into our first
true crime case where we kind of

1038
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:57,680
touched on it already when we
covered the Slender Man in the

1039
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,320
Slender Man episode when we
covered the the case of the two

1040
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,640
girls from Waukesha, WI.
I just bought a book.

1041
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:10,160
It is called Slender Man and it
is by Kathleen Hale and it is

1042
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:15,680
entirely about the case of the
two girls in Waukesha, WI.

1043
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:21,760
So if anybody is interested in
hearing a true crime episode,

1044
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,040
the first true crime episode
here on the Infinite rabbit

1045
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,280
hole, that's what we're going to
be diving into.

1046
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,040
Because at the same time, you
know, true crime is cool, right?

1047
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,720
But infinite rabbit hole, we
deal with infra rabbit hole

1048
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:34,200
stuff.
And if we could tie the Slender

1049
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,640
Man into it, I think it would
make for for a pretty cool

1050
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,480
episode.
So Oh yeah, sure, that's gonna

1051
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:39,880
be awesome.
All the people.

1052
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,520
Listening all the people
watching whenever you guys do

1053
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:45,360
get a chance, make sure you guys
message us on your social media

1054
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:49,520
of choice and let us know.
Do you want to hear a our first

1055
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:54,240
true crime episode on the
Slender Man case real quick?

1056
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,840
Wollen, says Allison, have you
ever smelt anything weird while

1057
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,440
doing your ghost investigations,
You know?

1058
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:08,000
I can't recall that I have, but
I know that Kim, one of my team

1059
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,520
members, we were at Farrar
School and we were up in what

1060
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,000
they called the principal's
office, but it was actually the

1061
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,480
counselor's office that we later
found out she smelled Pickles.

1062
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,040
I I.
Didn't smell it.

1063
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:22,400
She smelled.
She's like, why does it smell

1064
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,520
like Pickles?
I'm like, I don't know what

1065
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:26,280
you're talking about, but.
Pickles of all.

1066
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,760
Things I don't, I don't know.
That's about the only thing I

1067
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,280
haven't really smells.
Or anything like that.

1068
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,400
Not that I can recall now.
No.

1069
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,520
No, I haven't.
I want to say it was Family Guy,

1070
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,400
where they are like something
about a ghost in the house and

1071
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,320
if you put a cucumber on the
couch, you come back tomorrow,

1072
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:50,920
it'll be a pickle.
Does that does that ring a bell

1073
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,600
for anybody here?
I don't think I've.

1074
00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:54,720
Seen that one?
I want to say it was.

1075
00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:57,640
Family Guy, Jake, I'm going to
look up the the the clip and

1076
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,280
send it to you later.
It's, it's absolutely hilarious.

1077
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,240
Just funny, just hilarious.
It's probably not Family Guy at

1078
00:57:03,240 --> 00:57:05,320
all.
It's probably Star Wars.

1079
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,200
Oh my.
Gosh, Allison, have you ever

1080
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,200
played the Midnight Man game?
No.

1081
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,520
I haven't, I told.
Jeremy and his wife about this

1082
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,080
earlier or a couple weeks ago.
So they were the kids were

1083
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,520
playing some game and I was just
like, I can't remember what they

1084
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,360
called it.
There was like a birthday party

1085
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,880
going on or whatever.
And I was just like, I was like,

1086
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,000
wait, explain to me this game
because I thought it was the

1087
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,360
Midnight Man game and it turned
out to be completely innocent.

1088
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:38,680
So back when before I was a
believer in in Jesus and I was a

1089
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,960
like a just a ruthless, like,
let's find out individual.

1090
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:49,160
So we would play a game where
you would, you would light a

1091
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:53,400
candle and like a big tall,
like, you know, a good size

1092
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,800
candle, right?
So you light this candle and

1093
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,640
this would be like your lights,
right?

1094
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,040
We turn off all lights in the
house.

1095
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,600
And you would write a the thing
on a piece of paper saying like,

1096
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:09,600
we invite the midnight man into
our house from the hours of

1097
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:16,480
12:00 AM to 3:30 AM.
And then you'd draw some blood

1098
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,040
and you'd sign your name in
blood.

1099
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,080
And then at 12:00 in the
morning, you would knock on the

1100
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,440
door and open it.
And you would invite the

1101
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,440
Midnight Man into your house,
which was essentially a demon or

1102
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,760
whatever, during the witching
hour.

1103
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,200
And then you'd close the door.
And then you'd have to run

1104
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,120
around and hide with your
candle.

1105
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,800
And if the candle went out, you
had no way to light it.

1106
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,440
And then you're susceptible to
being possessed by the Midnight

1107
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,400
Man.
What?

1108
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,520
I am dude, I have never heard of
this crap.

1109
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,840
Like this, which was just fun,
right?

1110
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,760
Oh my.
God, we did Bloody Mary and

1111
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,960
light as a feather stuff as a
board back in my day.

1112
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,360
Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

1113
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:03,480
Or the OR the the only one which
is ON I, I think it's it's

1114
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Japanese for demon.
And you would take a you'd,

1115
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,280
you'd make a doll, you could
take a stuffed animal, whatever,

1116
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,520
take all the stuffing out of it.
You fill it with rice, which

1117
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,640
represents the body, and you
stitch up with red thread, which

1118
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,360
represents the blood.
And then you would say a chant

1119
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:24,040
and give it a spirit and you'd
leave it with a weapon and go

1120
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,440
hide in the house and hopefully
it doesn't come and kill you.

1121
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,720
Oh my.
Gosh, like a teddy bear.

1122
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:33,240
Stuffed with rice covered in red
thread that would run around the

1123
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:34,440
house with a knife and kill
knife.

1124
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:37,880
Yeah.
Are you sure there's not a movie

1125
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,400
already out there like that?
There is, there actually is,

1126
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,560
because of the tradition of
doing the thing.

1127
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:50,720
So I sent the clip to the chat.
Jake Jeff of the Family Guy

1128
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,280
scene.
It is Lois's brother who gets

1129
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,280
out of an insane asylum and he
has a ghost wife.

1130
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:03,840
And yeah, it's it's it's there.
It's there for you.

1131
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,160
Her name's Marion, if anybody
wants to look that up.

1132
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,800
I found it on YouTube.
Just look up.

1133
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:13,000
I think I looked up Family Guy
pickle scene or something like

1134
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,040
that.
It is.

1135
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,600
It came right up.
So there, there you go.

1136
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,480
All right, Allison, I know I
kept you way later and I was

1137
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,600
supposed to I do apologize about
that.

1138
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,880
But before we close up shop, why
don't you go ahead and let

1139
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:33,760
everybody know where they can
find you so that they can come

1140
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,280
listen to you and and follow
your your work.

1141
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:37,920
OK, I.
Knew you were going to ask me

1142
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,960
this, so I have to look it up
because I don't know my handles.

1143
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,760
That's ridiculous.
We do have a Facebook.

1144
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,440
We do have a Facebook page that
Kim runs.

1145
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,600
Our Facebook page.
It's RAP, paranormal and

1146
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,880
friends.
We post a lot of our stuff about

1147
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:53,280
our podcast on there, our
upcoming investigations, some of

1148
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:58,520
our live feeds.
Also I do our Twitter page.

1149
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:05,000
It's Allison at re Paranormal.
We also have Instagram, which is

1150
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:08,240
RE Paranormal 24, so that's kind
of where you can find us.

1151
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,080
Our shows are on Thursday
nights.

1152
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:14,120
You can find it on Spreaker for
free on Thursday Nights Live, or

1153
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,120
it's on any podcast platform
that you listen to or wherever

1154
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,520
you like to listen to your
podcasts.

1155
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:20,720
Nice.
I just followed you guys on

1156
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,160
Facebook.
All right.

1157
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,520
Sweet.
Yeah.

1158
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:28,360
So whenever this goes live, I
will tag your Facebook group in

1159
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,840
it real quick so.
Wolan said in response to your

1160
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,000
Your smells answer.
Allison, she says OK, I smelt

1161
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,520
something gross one time.
Well, I felt like I was being

1162
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:39,920
watched.
I was just curious.

1163
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,040
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I mean, you know, a lot of

1164
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,600
people say they smell like the
smell sulfur, you know, rotten

1165
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,000
egg kind of smell of something.
Might be it's kind of a sign of

1166
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,360
something whatever or bad or
whatever, or maybe somebody just

1167
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,040
farted, I don't know but.
Maybe it's a ghost.

1168
01:01:57,080 --> 01:01:58,240
Maybe.
It's a ghost.

1169
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,680
Fart.
Anything else?

1170
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,800
Everything Good guys.
Ready to roll, Allison?

1171
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,760
Thank you so much for joining
us.

1172
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,520
I appreciate it.
It's been fun.

1173
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:09,400
It was a good episode.
I It's great.

1174
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:10,720
Yeah.
Absolutely.

1175
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,600
Thanks for having me, guys.
I appreciate it.

1176
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Sure.
Yeah.

1177
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,160
Thank you.
Thank you very much.

1178
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,760
You had a couple people in the
chat that also said thank you

1179
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,920
Wolens and 14 the wins.
I think that's that's

1180
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,960
Shakespeare.
Well, thanks.

1181
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,720
Everybody, I appreciate it.
Thank you very.

1182
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,520
Much.
I really do.

1183
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:34,600
Appreciate that.
And for everyone else, this has

1184
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:38,000
been another episode of the
Infinite Rabbit Hole Podcast.

1185
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,360
We'll see you in the next fork
of the Path of the Infinite

1186
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,840
Rabbit Hole.
Bye everybody, Bye bye peace.

1187
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:49,880
Out, hey.
Everybody, thanks for checking

1188
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,760
out the Infinite Rabbit Hole
podcast.

1189
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,000
If you're looking for more of
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1190
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1191
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:00,760
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1197
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