189. Men in Black Part 3: Encounters (2024 Halloween Special)

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Yes, that's Skeeter from episode
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I'm your host Jeremy, and today
we're going to celebrate

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Halloween.
Look at us looking all festive

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Before we jump into the topic
for tonight, let's go ahead and

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visit the guests and see what
they're supposed to be FA.

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What's up bro?
What are you?

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I am a scarecrow rabbit.
Gary, look at you, man.

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Dude, that's dope.
That is dope.

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Pretty sick, right?
I figured hitting, you know,

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infinite rabbit hole, you know,
honestly, we all know I'm that

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guy waited till today to get my
my costume.

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So I went out to Walmart.
They didn't have shit went to

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target, they didn't have shit
went to spirit of Halloween.

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They had a lot of shit so.
Well, like, it's kind of their

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thing.
That's their thing.

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So we walked around and then I
got this and like I was saying

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earlier, I had full intentions
to return this thing tomorrow.

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Sorry you're going to seem to
mess.

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One thing is not very
comfortable but I was going to

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return it tomorrow but they were
like Nope, sorry you can't.

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So here I have.
Now I have a mask.

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Nice.
I love it man, it looks good on

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you, it really does.
If you get it right, you see it

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like the mouth moves when I
talk, which is kind of sick, but

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it's crunching my my beard and I
don't know how I feel about

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that.
Yeah, everyone's going to make

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sacrifices, man.
Just just shave it.

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Yeah.
Go ahead.

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Beardless, Jeff.
Halloween.

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No, we're not doing that.
Hi, Jake, whom whom are you?

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Actually, I'll hold on.
I will shave the beard right now

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on stream for a $500 donation.
Yeah, there you go.

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There you go.
Donate $500 and Jeff shaves his

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beard.
That'll pay for another plane

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ticket for him to come out.
That would well, that would pay

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for a couple of them, Crystal
said.

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No beard shaving.
It'll pay for my therapy.

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Jake, who are you man?
What you doing today?

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Jeff, who do you think I am?
I got a a pipe right here.

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You are Dad.
Guarantee it's from a fucking

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movie.
Dad.

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A dad, so he said.
Dad, is that you?

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Dad, I came back.
Turns out they only had milk in

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Oklahoma.
I had to walk there.

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Kate Kenzar, Who am I?
It's from a popular movie,

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National Lampoon.
Yeah, Christmas movie.

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I'm not.
Going to get it, kids.

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Of course you're not going to
get it.

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Probably you will get it.
She probably would.

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I don't watch movies.
I'm cousin Eddie from Christmas

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vacation.
Oh, Oh yeah.

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Cousin Eddie.
Yeah, right.

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Yep.
You don't know?

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Shut up.
You look just like him, Let me

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tell you just.
Like him, Whitney says.

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Y'all suck.
I put a lot of time and money

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into this costume.
Well, you look good.

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You look comfortable.
This is pretty comfortable you.

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Want to get up and do a spin for
us?

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Nope.
Here I don't think it comes with

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the belt and the thing and the
hat and.

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Pants, huh?
Nice.

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Because it's kind of chilly in
here.

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Classy.
Well, I'm a man in black.

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I didn't go far with this one.
Just like, just like last time I

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did the Bunny.
Man, Blue Brothers or something?

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No man, it's men in black.
It's the man in black.

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I had the neuralizer but I can't
find it.

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I think my kids fucking took it.
It's like Blues, I was saying.

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You know what, man?
You know what?

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You don't even look like a
fucking Bunny.

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Well, you know what?
Crystal says that you look like

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one of the Blues Brothers.
I agree.

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Crystal, whatever.
Terrible cop and I'm a Blues

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Brother.
I don't care.

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I was supposed to look.
Do Blues Brothers have this?

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No Men in Black do I.
Didn't even see that until you

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pulled it out.
Yeah, yeah, See, that's how far

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I went with this.
Dang, I got that thing for

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$1.50.
Nice.

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Yeah, it it's like the cherry on
top, man.

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It's perfect.
Actually, they do.

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They're musicians.
That's true music.

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Musicians do wear those little
microphone things.

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Crystal, you're not fun.
Stop it.

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Oh, yeah.
Look at them.

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Look at all those men in black.
Look at them all.

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They're all in black and stuff.
That's literally you.

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You're a you.
Got a beard?

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They don't have beards.
Man in Blues.

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You've never seen that, right?
No, yeah, not ever.

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I I might watch it.
All right, before we get

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started, after we did our
introductions, I want to say

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hello and thank you to Kenzar
for being our very first Patreon

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supporter.
Oh wow.

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Hey, give her the shout out.
Go ahead and make that

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announcement.
We now have a

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patreonpatreon.com/infinite
rabbit hole.

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Yeah, we we got it.
I am working on the very first

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Patreon exclusive episode and
for those that are interested in

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what it might be, it is an
additional part to our

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Skinwalker Ranch series.
So I came across some really

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good content and I will present
it for Patreon.

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The question is, this is going
to have to be answered by people

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when this episode comes out,
which will be the Tuesday before

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Halloween.
Do you want it done like this

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episode here where we read,
discuss or do you want it to be

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a solo documentary episode?
And if it's a solo documentary

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episode, I'll probably just
rewrite the whole Skinwalker

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Ranch episode and just redo it
with the new information added

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in there.
Make it nice and fresh with

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clean music behind it and and my
my succulent voice telling you.

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Succulent whispering thank you
in my moist ear holes.

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Funny guy.
I am a funny guy.

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You are.
You are.

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I am, yeah.
I've been told that before and I

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was like, yes, and I'm humble
about it too.

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Oh good, good.
One other announcement.

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We are now there and you can

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leave comments on every episode
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We've got a bunch of comments.
You guys want to hear some?

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Yeah.
Yeah, let's see.

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The first one is by Valerie
Ensign on the Tim Banal episode.

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She said why are you starting on
episode 167?

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Anyways, good job.
Thanks Valerie.

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Appreciate that.
This is on a short.

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We've we've been posting shorts
on on YouTube lately on one of

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the men in black shorts, Muscle
Bird 9761 says I love you Jake.

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Yeah, and I said aw back.
Yeah, and we don't know who that

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is.
Nope.

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J Dogs full commented on our
Flat Earth conversation that we

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had with Declassified Dave.
He said contact Flat Earth Dave

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and get him to come on and
educate you.

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He likes small shows as long as
they are globers or a small

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show.
I'm a glober.

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I've actually had I've had Flat
Earth Dave on my show twice.

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Have you?
Yeah, man.

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Well, why don't you reach out to
Flat Earth Dave for us then?

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Don't you reach out to flatter,
Dave.

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Listen, guy, listen.
We're trying to network.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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So network, yeah.
Through.

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You just a little parasite
class.

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Yeah, you guys.
Just another.

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Chills, just parasitics, just
sucking the OK.

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I'll hit him up, I'll let him
know.

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Thanks man, appreciate that.
I got you.

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We have a comment on the younger
driest episode.

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This one's from Doctor Suri
Anarayanan 9256.

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He says we must take a Geiger
counter to measure

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radioactivity.
The next time we see

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vitrification on megaliths, we
might find proof of pre Diluvian

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nuclear war.
Thanks doc, I appreciate that.

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I'm with you.
There could be something there.

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Good stuff.
And then we have a plethora of

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comments from somebody on the
Patterson Gimlin film episode,

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Episode 15, episode 15.
You guys ready for this?

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These are kind of funny.
Ready.

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There's a lot of typos.
Let's see one of you said turns

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out they weren't able to make a
suit this good until 40 years

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later.
You're wrong.

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Unless you mean CGI.
What movie are you talking about

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that's as good as what is in the
PG film?

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Another one 1E chamber that
needs to be cleared up is why

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Patterson had illustrations in
his quote UN quote book that had

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drawings of a creature with
boobs before this footage was

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taken.
I didn't know anything about

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that.
That was also before I really

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did deep research, so thanks
Steve.

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Then Steve then followed up with
raising that Lane conspiracy,

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which is 1000% pure conjecture
is unnecessary and ruins the

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credibility of this episode.
It's a peeve of his happy

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birthday Bob Gillan and happy
anniversary to the PG film I'm

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out.
That is also another thing to

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that that that we need to
announce that today is Patty

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Day.
Today is the day that Patty was

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was captured on film October
20th.

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Nice.
Yeah.

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So what was he saying the last
comment?

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I don't know.
It's been so long.

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Something about a conspiracy
that we brought up and he was

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like, it's lame and it's stupid.
Wow.

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All right, huh.
Well, I would say to him without

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sounding too rude, no, go ahead,
I I don't have enough time to

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filter out everything.
That's a pet peeve of

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individuals, so deal with it I
suppose.

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Oh, you hear that, Steve?
I'm just saying it's like, OK,

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and then.
People.

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Been so many people being at
Walmart at the same time as a

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pet peeve for me but I'm not
going to tell them that I'll go

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home.
Maybe you should.

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Nor would they listen to me.
Maybe they will They.

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Should do it.
They will.

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I'll be like, look, can you guys
just go home?

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All right?
Just tired of looking at you.

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This is a pet peeve of mine.
Please dude.

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Last.
Comment preference.

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No one cares about your
preference.

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Last comment lat take.
There's no other evidence of

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Bigfoot.
Other videos are trash.

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Hearsay and footprints don't
count.

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The only thing you can conclude
is that this is not a man in a

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suit.
So the only thing I really have

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to say is yes, we made the
argument that it's not a man in

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a suit, right?
What else could it be?

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What else could it fucking be?
Is it a bear in a fucking suit?

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I mean start off with the word
lactate.

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Is that what you said?
No man, he he, he's got a lot of

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typos.
Lat take so LAAT space take.

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You know.
What?

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People terrible spelling is a
pet peeve of mine so.

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Lactating is a pet peeve of
mine.

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Yes, also lactating.
I hate it when people lactate in

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our comments.
That's a pet peeve.

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At Walmart.
At Walmart, I'm not.

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Going to say that I don't like
that's a good thing.

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It's a thing, man.
It's.

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Your deed all.
Right.

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You guys ready to roll?
Yeah.

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You guys got anything to put out
before we start?

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Nope.
I've got nipples, Jeremy, can

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you milk me?
No, all right, have.

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You seen that movie?
No, I don't know what you're

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talking.
About.

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That's a pet peeve of mine.
What?

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That you don't know what I'm
talking about.

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Yeah, that you don't know what
we're talking about.

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That's a pet peeve.
That's all right, we'll laugh

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together.
Jake.

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Crystal's laughing too.
Crystal's not laughing.

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Look at her.
She's not laughing at all to get

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this all set up here.
It's validated, she put in the

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chat, she is laughing good and
she's a real person.

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Is she?
Yeah, since when?

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I mean I I saw her she it could
be AI.

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It could be all right.
There is green screen technology

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and you know.
Well, today we are going over

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the.
Course encounters.

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Of the men in black.
You guys ready?

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Yep, Yep.
All right, First one takes us to

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Los Angeles, CA in 1953.
In both of Nick Redfern's books,

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The Real Men in Black and The
Slender Man Mysteries, Redfern

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makes mention of a specific MIB
encounter from Los Angeles, CA

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in 1953, when an attorney's
office in the city was visited

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by two extremely tall men in
black suits, described as as at

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least 6 foot 6 1/2 feet tall
each, who demanded to be

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included in the investigations
of the recent issue of missing

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children in the area.
This demand was seemingly

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granted as the two men were
given authoritative positions in

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the building.
The office never questioned

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their presence until after their
investigation was over, but once

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they were gone, the entire place
broke down in a frenzy.

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The workers at the office
described the hands of the men

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as being the most disturbing
feature, fingers that looked

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more like independently moving
tentacles than typical fingers,

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and filing cabinets that were
left dented in on the top by

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what people were describing as
one of the tall men who leaned

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against them.
Later reports of these men in

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black would also report
descriptions of tentacles in

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many different aspects.
How do we want to do this?

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You want me to just read a few
of them and we'll we'll stop and

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talk about them?
Yeah, we'll do that.

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Good.
Good answer.

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Thanks.
Jeff.

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Parkersburg, WV November 2nd
1966 John Keel mentions an

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encounter reported to Mary
Higher that included an unnamed

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man and his Co worker who were
driving home from work after

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dark when a craft came out of
the sky and landed in the

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highway between them.
A strange man dressed in all

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black walked out and towards the
two men.

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He spotted a large grin and had
his hands tucked under his

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armpits.
The man asked the duo what they

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were doing and a few other
questions such as where they

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lived and who they were, who
they were before walking back to

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the craft and lifting back into
the sky.

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Then a few months later, the son
of the man who reported the

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incident to hire called her
office and asked her to not ever

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print anything about what his
father had told her.

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When she asked why, he stated
quote, look, don't use my name.

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I don't want to get involved in
this thing that scientist fella

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told me before being cut off by
hire asking about who is this

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scientist that you're talking
about.

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The man explained that a
scientist from Ohio had stopped

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by their house and told them not
to spread anything about what

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they saw that night.
The really strange thing about

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this visit was that the father
son and father's Co worker had

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never told anyone about the
incident at all due to the fear

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of being labeled as crazy.
He just knew every detail about

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what happened that night.
Kiel would go on to explain that

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this would seem to be a report
from a crackpot, but that exact

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same thing happened on the exact
same night on the exact same

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stretch of Rd.
Another man had reported.

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I just, I, I put it there again,
reported the same thing, but

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this man would report the
incident to the police.

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That man's name was Woody
Derrenberg.

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Sound familiar?
Yes it does.

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Good job and we'll do one more
here.

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Parkersburg, WV Again November
2nd, 1966, 7:00 PM Woodrow, AKA

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Woody Derrenberger of Mineral
Wells, WV was driving home from

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a day's work as an appliance
salesman when 2 vehicles drove

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past him in haste while on the
highway near Parkersburg at at

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about 7:00 PM.
The second car was very large

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and had no external lights on
when it overtook Woody's

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position, but something else was
off.

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This thing he originally thought
to be a large truck was not

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touching the ground at all.
Instead it was flying low to the

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ground and looked as if it were
pursuing the first view.

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As the flying craft overtook
Woody, it turned towards the

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side of the road and came to a
complete hovering stop and lower

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to the ground.
The craft was larger than your

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typical vehicle and was shaped
like a kerosene lamp with a

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large bulging section in the
middle that tapered off on each

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end.
As the craft lowered down to the

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road, Woody had to slam on his
brakes and safely stopped his

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vehicle about 8 to 10 feet away
from whatever it was that lay in

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front of him.
Woody sat in awe as he watched

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the door appear from seemingly
nowhere and observe a man walk

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out and towards the driver's
side of Woody's vehicle.

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Woody would later describe the
man as being about 5 feet and 10

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inches tall.
He had slicked back black hair

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and olive complexion, wore a
dark overcoat with what Woody

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believed to be a shiny green
piece of clothing underneath.

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Woody watched as the man walked
up casually with his hands

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tucked under his armpits as if
he were hiding them before Woody

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received a strange signal in his
mind that sounded like spoken

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words.
He soon realized that it was the

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man who was walking up who was
mind speaking to him.

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The words that rang through his
mind without the stranger ever

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moving his lips said quote.
Do not be afraid, we mean you no

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harm.
I come from a country far less

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powerful than yours.
Woody and the stranger had a

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short conversation about some
basic topics without Woody ever

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lowering his window as the craft
closed up and lifted back into

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the.
Into the air, some of the

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questions that Woody remembers
were asked about the city of

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Parkersburg, Woody's job, and
where Woody lived.

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As the men were finishing up
with their telepathic

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conversation, the craft lowered
back down to the road and the

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unfamiliar man told Woody that
he would see him again and that

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his name was Cold.
Cold finished the encounter by

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mentioning that Woody should
report this conversation and

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that Cold would see him again
soon.

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That night when Woody returned
home, his wife highly concerned

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and his wife was highly
concerned and begged Woody to

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contact the police about what
had happened.

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Eventually he would give in
which sparked a long story

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between Woody, the public and an
alien humanoid from a faraway

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planet called Lanulos name
injured Cold.

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If you would like to hear us do
a deep dive into the amazing

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story, I recommend checking out
our four part series that we did

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in episode 73 through 76 with
special guests Ashers from the

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on Wednesdays We Talk Weird
podcast as well as episode 93

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with special guest Tanya
Dehrenberger, the daughter of

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Woody.
In episode 159, our remastered

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documentary episode of the
injured cold Story where the

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complete story is presented
without any conversation or side

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topics at all.
So I can't do a men in black

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episode with talking without
talking about the one most

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famous man in black that that
was never actually a man in

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black and that was injured cold.
Will Smith?

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Will Smith?
Sure.

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I don't get it.
Tommy Lee Jones.

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No, Tommy Lee Jones was the real
one, bro.

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Yeah.
Something just occurred to me

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that is kind of had to kind of
throw out there.

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Yeah.
Why are people contemplating or

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actually calling the police to
report something strange when no

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crime is being committed or
anything like that?

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Like I wouldn't call the police
and be like, oh, I just saw a

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weird looking car on the road.
Is that something that used to

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happen back in the day?
And then people just don't do

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that anymore because it's just
like, you know, it's not an

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emergency and I didn't see
anything illegal.

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No one's being hurt.
Just like I'm not going to calm

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up me.
Like I saw a light in the sky

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and be like OK cool.
Well, people used to get

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arrested for having weird cars,
so.

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Oh yeah, yeah.
So it's like it's it's kind of

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thinking about that.
I was like, like, why would you

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do that?
Wait, what are you asking

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exactly?
Do they?

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Why are people either talking
about it, contemplating it, or

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actually calling the police
because they see something

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strange that's not something
like it's not an emergency.

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Because you got Karen's out
there, bro.

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Got Kens and Karen's, man.
You know, you see somebody

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parked in a parking lots, not
supposed to be there.

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They're calling the cops.
You see some kid walking around

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with a hoodie on calling the
cops.

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You look at him on calling the
cops.

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It's just like, you know?
That's true.

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That's true.
Maybe Woody Baron.

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Woody Darenberger is just a
Karen.

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He just has a conversation with
a guy in a weird looking vehicle

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and he's like, I'm going to talk
to the police.

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About this What town was this in
again?

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Where was this out again?
7:00 PM.

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Virginia Oh, you weren't.
You were a part of the The

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Injured Cold series, weren't
you?

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Yeah but bro I got a bad memory
I can't remember.

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Specifically, it's been it's
been a while.

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On everything.
But it's bum fucked nowhere,

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right?
It was in the middle of nowhere.

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It was like, yes, yes, yeah.
So come on, man.

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He, you know, he knows his
neighbors.

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He, you know, he sees a weird
fella out there in the sticks,

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you know?
You know, he's calling old buddy

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Frank.
Sheriff Frank.

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Hey, we got to let you know
what's going on here, man.

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Hey, there's a guy out here with
a suit on.

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Yeah, what's that all about?
Came out of the sky.

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Yeah, looks like he might be the
lawyer type.

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Yeah.
His engines aren't it's.

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My baller land.
Shot at him all.

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Right, the big AG.
He's one of the big AG guys in

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here.
Who is this?

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Crystal says people do that when
they're suspicious or scared

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about stuff.
Well, people may do that, but

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that's a pet peeve of mine.
I wouldn't do that, man.

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I'd be like interesting lad.
One thing to keep in mind

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though, about that time period
that was the same.

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The same period where the
Mothman was wreaking havoc

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through Point Pleasant.
Also the same time period where

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the Silver Bridge went down.
Also the same time period where

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a ton of people showed up in the
small town of Point Pleasant

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that looked like really strange,
weird short people they but

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there was a ton of them and they
all happened to work for the

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hydroelectric company.
It's basically it's like after

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911 and everyone profiling the
crap out of anyone that has

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brown skin.
Exactly.

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Yep.
I had a buddy that he was

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Mexican, had a really big beard.
And every single time he flew,

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long hair, long beard, he would
get extra security inspections

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and checks and things like that.
And he's like, I'm, I'm not

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Muslim.
It's like, and they're just

458
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,960
like, well, it's just, you know,
a random check.

459
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,640
And he's like every time, every
time I fly every other month,

460
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,760
yeah.
Shit, I would wear a turban.

461
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,080
Yeah.
Just anything else.

462
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,960
You guys ready?
Yeah.

463
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,840
Oh, wait, I real quick.
How many?

464
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,920
How many like actual Men in
Black sightings are there, do

465
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,960
you know?
Thousands.

466
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,280
OK, there's a shit load then.
Yeah, I mean I only did 6 pages

467
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,200
worth.
Right.

468
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,080
Well, you know, I didn't know
because sometimes it's like a

469
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:02,600
dozen, right?
Or like a.

470
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:03,760
Couple.
Dozen.

471
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,040
But if you're talking hundreds,
thousand, you know.

472
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,440
There's a ton, man.
It's a lot.

473
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,240
It's a lot.
Hey Skeeter in the chat.

474
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:14,160
Hey Skeeter, Skeet Skeet.
All right?

475
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:22,120
Wildwood.
Wildwood, NJ, January 9th, 1967.

476
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,880
Connie, the 17 year old daughter
of Arlene and Edward

477
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,360
Christensen, answered the door
the night her and her family

478
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,280
returned from a long trip to
Florida.

479
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,720
The man who stood there was
tall, wore a Russian style fur

480
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,880
hat and a long black coat.
Connie walked out for her

481
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,840
mother.
Connie called out for her mother

482
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,400
and Arlene would ask the man
what it was that he had come to

483
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,880
their house for.
The man replied with a question

484
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,720
quote, does Edward Christensen
live here?

485
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,280
Mr. Christensen may have
inherited a great deal of money.

486
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,320
May I come in?
Arlene allowed the man to enter

487
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,760
their home as she called up the
stairs for Edward.

488
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,200
Edward was 6 foot 2 inches tall
and the stranger was easily 6

489
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,560
inches or more taller than him.
The Christensen's would later

490
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:17,240
state that their best guess at
his weight was at least £300.

491
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,920
The tall man removed his hat and
stated quote this will only take

492
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,360
40 minutes.
His hair was black and close

493
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:29,200
cropped with a balding spot that
looked as if someone had just

494
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,360
shaved it on the back of his
head and one of the man's eyes

495
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,440
was not coordinating with the
other one which made them assume

496
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,680
he had a glass eye.
As the man took off his coat,

497
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,120
Connie spotted a bronze badge
pinned to his shirt and the

498
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:49,000
letters K or possibly the Greek
letter Sigma and a lowercase X

499
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,320
on the front.
The man quickly covered it up,

500
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,640
removed it and put it into his
pocket.

501
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,920
As the man sat down, his already
2 short black pants rode up his

502
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,840
shin, exposing his dark socks
and dark thick soled shoes.

503
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,280
But the strangest thing about
this was the green wire that was

504
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,200
coming from his foot and up his
pant leg.

505
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,040
The man spoke in a sort of
robotic rhythm and seemed to be

506
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,200
talking as if he was speaking
from a script he had remembered

507
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,040
together.
His speech reminded the family

508
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,480
of a radio recording, but live.
Edward explained to the man that

509
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,360
they were just getting ready to
sit down for dinner and asked

510
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:29,920
him if he would like to stay and
eat.

511
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,720
The man who would eventually
introduce himself as Tiny

512
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,200
replied in a raspy asthmatic
voice that he was on a diet and

513
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,000
he would like a glass of water.
In about 10 minutes, Tiny Wood

514
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,440
begin by taking out a small
notebook and pen and began

515
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,880
asking Ed a few identifying
questions such as history of

516
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,680
schools, scars, and past
addresses.

517
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,080
After 10 minutes of his face
getting progressively redder, he

518
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,760
turned to Connie and asked for
the glass of water he had

519
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,640
mentioned.
When she returned, Tiny used the

520
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,600
water to swallow a a large
yellow tablet that he produced

521
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,440
from his pocket, which seemed to
calm whatever it was that was

522
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:15,040
making his face look so red. 40
minutes later, Tiny was done

523
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,160
with his interview and thanked
the family for their time.

524
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,520
He exited the house, walked down
the road and lifted his arm into

525
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,680
the air.
They quickly learned that this

526
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,600
was a signal as a black 1963
Cadillac pulled up to the curb

527
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,520
with its headlights out before
Tiny got in and they drove off

528
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,720
away still with no headlights.
This encounter with a strange

529
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,480
man becomes an instant possible
Men in Black event once you know

530
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,040
that the Christensen's had a
prominent UFO sighting in

531
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:50,200
November the previous year.
Southside West Virginia April

532
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,640
1967 An unnamed man from Ohio
was driving along the Chief

533
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,160
Cornstalk hunting grounds on a
rainy night when a black figure

534
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,720
sailed above his car and began
to dive to give chase as he

535
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,600
tried to accelerate away.
Quote It was at least 10 feet

536
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,000
wide.
It was doing over 70.

537
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,960
It scared the hell out of me
when I saw it move ahead of me

538
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,880
and turn towards the river.
In October, about seven months

539
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,080
later, he was getting home from
work when he walked in on a

540
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,000
strange man dressed in all black
standing in his living room.

541
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,000
As he reached for his light
switch, the the strange intruder

542
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,720
took a picture of the home owner
with a blinding flash.

543
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,480
While he was rubbing his eyes
trying to gain his vision back,

544
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,440
the home invader raced past him
and got away.

545
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:42,640
Galipolis.
Galipolis, Gallopolis, Ohio

546
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,440
December 1967 One of the most
disgusting encounters with the

547
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,240
infamous Men in Black around
Point Pleasant that year was

548
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,600
when 2 short men dressed all in
black entered into the office of

549
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,480
Gallopolis, Ohio branch of the
Athens, OH Messenger, a local

550
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,080
newspaper building just across
from the Silver Bridge and

551
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
confronted the very same same
Missus.

552
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,960
Mary Higher, a reporter for the
newspaper the men who hire

553
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,720
described as being possibly
twins, had stated quote, we hear

554
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,040
there's been a lot of flying
saucer activity around here.

555
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,120
This came as a shock to hire as
literally a few days prior the

556
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,080
Silver Bridge, which stood just
yards away from our office

557
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,840
window, had collapsed into the
Ohio River, killing 46 people

558
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,280
three days before Christmas.
It is easy to understand her

559
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,600
confusion when an event like
this happened and someone come

560
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,440
walking into the building of the
local newspaper asking about

561
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,560
UFOs.
During this particular time,

562
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,320
things continue to get even
stranger.

563
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,960
When the men began asking of
hire had been told by anyone to

564
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,280
quote what would you do if
someone did order you to stop

565
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,360
reporting on flying saucer
sightings?

566
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Which hire promptly replied
quote I tell them to go to hell.

567
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,680
And the men promptly left.
And the man promptly left.

568
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Then the eeriness of the
situation took another step up

569
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,920
when later that same afternoon,
another man entered the doors of

570
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,560
the messenger, who was also
dressed in all black.

571
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,360
But unlike the other two who
were who were tidy and well

572
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,120
groomed, this man seemed
disheveled, with a ragged suit

573
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,680
and untamed hair.
One particular detail about the

574
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,120
man that Hire found disturbing
was the extreme length of his

575
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,080
tapering fingers.
The man introduced himself.

576
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,960
Quote My name is Jack Brown, I'm
a UFO researcher.

577
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,720
Immediately following his
introduction, Mr. Brown asked in

578
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,760
a stuttering voice.
Quote what?

579
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:45,440
What would What would you do if
someone ordered you to stop to

580
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:49,560
stop printing UFO stories?
This didn't sit well with Hire

581
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,400
as she asked the man if there
was any connection with the two

582
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,640
men who had paid her a visit
earlier in the day.

583
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,760
Mr. Brown's response was that he
was a friend of Gray Barker's.

584
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Gray Barker was from Clarksburg,
WV, a little over 100 miles

585
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,920
away.
Soon after a few back to backs

586
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,920
with Gray, John Keel and the
local UFO sightings, the man

587
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,400
promptly left and Mary Higher
was left with a very strange

588
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,600
feeling about the three men in
black that paid her a visit that

589
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,880
day.
All right, let's talk about

590
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,120
them.
People are way too trusting,

591
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,040
man.
Yeah, like I would I wouldn't

592
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,600
even allow like and I don't do
anything, but I wouldn't allow a

593
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,160
police officer to like just walk
in my house or anything like

594
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,160
that.
Like let alone someone

595
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:41,040
unannounced being like, does
someone live here at this

596
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,400
address because some vague
response.

597
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,360
Oh yeah, come on in.
Like it's just like it's like

598
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,840
anyone can.
You could go on the on X hunt

599
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,800
map and look at my neighborhood
and see who owns every single

600
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,040
house.
Like that is not a valid reason

601
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,840
to just let someone walk on in.
Yeah, and.

602
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,760
It was like people, I guess back
in the day were way more

603
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,560
trusting and you could even do
the whole, well, small town

604
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,360
living, blah, blah, all that
sort of stuff.

605
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,920
Yeah, well, that may be true,
but if I don't know you, you're

606
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,280
obviously not one of my
neighbors.

607
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,199
You're not just going to walk up
in my house like, you know what?

608
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,880
So you can case it out and break
in later like no.

609
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,679
That's a That's a good way to
get Dahmer.

610
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,199
Yeah, for sure.
It's like this is this is

611
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:28,000
strange.
Yeah.

612
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,440
Yeah, I mean, obviously they
told, you know, threaten

613
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,040
somebody, but I'm interested
that the scripture and talk

614
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,480
about this guy has some wires
coming out of his shoes up his

615
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,719
leg.
Like what was that hold all that

616
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,639
about, dude?
Robotic voice.

617
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,400
Yeah, yeah, that that's, that's
pretty strange.

618
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,920
So the robotic voice is a pretty
common detail in a lot of Men in

619
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,239
Black sightings and encounters.
We talked about that a little

620
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,159
bit during the one of the one of
the two presentations.

621
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:02,200
The the, the odd voice doesn't
only come in a robotic sound

622
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,800
though either.
It can also come in a whisper, a

623
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,360
squeal, a very, very deep, very,
very low or very high, very low

624
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:15,920
tone voices, a lot of things.
I mean, sometimes it sounds like

625
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,720
these people have never spoken a
word before in their lives.

626
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:24,760
It's, it's strange, right?
It's the the the details of a

627
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,440
lot of these encounters leave
you believing that these things

628
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,400
probably are not human beings.
Peter said in the chat that

629
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,640
they're definitely not demons.
Well, if they're not human

630
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:38,680
beings, maybe they're demons.
They're demons.

631
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,920
Let me ask you this just because
I know, I know party is kind of

632
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,760
being facetious, right?
But would you if like aliens

633
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,200
from another planet actually
came, would you think they're

634
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,120
demons?
Sure, why not?

635
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Would you?
You wouldn't be open to like the

636
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,480
possibility that other
civilizations on other planets

637
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,400
could be created by the same God
as well.

638
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,920
Oh yeah, sure.
You know, save just the same or

639
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,800
in another fashion perhaps,
maybe if need.

640
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,120
Be, yeah, I mean, I suppose, but
like, that's a, it's all a

641
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,440
possibility, but.
You saw the Pope said that

642
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,080
recently, right?
Like.

643
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Yeah, said a lot of stuff.
Yeah, the obviously right.

644
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:24,080
The Pope is trying to get all
the world religions together

645
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,280
under 1 banner like I don't.
Know I think the Pope is a

646
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,040
lizard personally but.
I'm not a Catholic.

647
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,000
I'm just saying, you know?
Caused himself the Holy Father

648
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,400
was just a blasphemous title for
any human being to have like he

649
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,040
doesn't sin, right?
It's funny because his Instagram

650
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,280
keeps getting he gets getting
caught because he keeps

651
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,120
following like only fans girls
on Instagram.

652
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,360
So yeah, there's that.
That's.

653
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,080
Our Pope if you control his
Instagram.

654
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,360
Someone's doing it.
I mean like realistically, is

655
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680
the Pope controlling his own
Instagram?

656
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,200
You think that?
Knows maybe he does.

657
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,920
Or maybe bro come.
On maybe he does.

658
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:07,320
Maybe he's like. 99% of like
celebrities or entertainers

659
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,800
aren't controlling their own
social media platforms for the

660
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,880
most part.
Maybe one or two of them they

661
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,720
might, you know, like their ex
account or something.

662
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:15,040
But.
I do my own.

663
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,600
You're right, we are a
celebrity, but the Pope?

664
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,400
Come on bro.
Christmas says he's too old to

665
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,320
understand it, for one.
Yeah, you're probably right

666
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,080
Well, one of the bishops who's
in control of his Instagram

667
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,480
keeps following his only fan
models and there doesn't.

668
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,760
It's not a good luck, but also.
It said that the Python.

669
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,840
He can, he can say a whole bunch
of stuff, right?

670
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:42,280
It's just, you know, it's weird,
especially when he goes against

671
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,080
the Bible, which he's supposed
to be like, you know, the head

672
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,320
of the Catholic Church
representing, like, the

673
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,920
intermediator between God and
all of all the Catholics

674
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,240
following the Bible.
And he says stuff that goes

675
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:01,040
completely against Scripture.
That's pretty strange.

676
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,200
It makes a lot of people wonder.
But yeah.

677
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,760
Wasn't there like a lot of talk
back before he was the Pope that

678
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,600
like or, or like right when he
became the Pope that like, oh,

679
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,160
he's going to be the last Pope?
Like there were some prophetic.

680
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,880
Yeah, I something like that.
And then also from like some

681
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,680
monk from like 1200 years ago or
something like that.

682
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,080
I heard something like that.
But also it was kind of strange

683
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,240
because the last Pope retired,
they're supposed to like die

684
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,720
apparently, and then the next
one takes over.

685
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,240
So that was weird too.
They're like, you know, did he

686
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:35,080
just kind of get pushed out, you
know, whatever it is?

687
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,040
Because if you're supposed to
die being the Pope, then.

688
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,880
Maybe.
Maybe.

689
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,280
I don't really deal with other
stuff like senility or getting

690
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,560
Alzheimer's and dementia and
stuff like that, because you'd

691
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,920
have to imagine if they're
they're all getting old enough

692
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,200
to where they're having a
natural death, then they're also

693
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,560
dealing with things like that
sometimes, right?

694
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,920
So that might be a part of it, I
don't know, but yeah.

695
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,840
Well, some I always talk about
like when the, I remember when

696
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,440
the Queen died, like before they
announced that she was dead,

697
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,240
there was all this talk in the
conspiracy world, like, oh, the

698
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:10,680
Queen's been dead, you know, the
queen died, all this stuff.

699
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,320
There's like all this like
symbology and iconography.

700
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,400
But people were also pointing
out like, oh, but she was just

701
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,840
here like at this thing.
And here's like some footage,

702
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,280
but it's like you got body
double s and you know, deep

703
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,560
fakes and that kind of thing.
So it's it makes you wonder,

704
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,160
like, did that Pope retire or
did he actually die?

705
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,200
And they just kind of like
covered that up and use the

706
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,040
double for a little while until
they can like manufacture this

707
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,880
mass press release that, hey,
he's retiring, blah, blah blah.

708
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:39,040
Blah.
Yeah.

709
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,240
Well, anyway, to answer your
question, yes, I I do think

710
00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:46,880
that's a possibility.
It's, it's probably not a

711
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,960
probability, but it's a
possibility.

712
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,080
That being said, just because, I
mean, if they really wanted to,

713
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,760
they could pull like an injured
cold thing and just be like,

714
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,480
yeah, this is, you know, show
some people on national TV at

715
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:06,200
like the White House or whatever
it is, or one of the European

716
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,240
Union things or the UN or
whatever, right?

717
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,880
And just be like, yeah, this is
an alien from another planet,

718
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,400
you know?
So it would have to.

719
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,720
I don't know how you would prove
that unless they looked really

720
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,000
weird.
But even then it could have been

721
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,080
pre recorded and it could be
green screen and all that sort

722
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,520
of stuff.
And they're doing, they're

723
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,240
messing around with, you know,
rap.

724
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,680
Was it like, you call it a, a
rap concert, I suppose, but they

725
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,360
have like, a Tupac as a freaking
hologram or whatever.

726
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,080
So there's so much stuff like,
how would you ever be able to

727
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,080
see that and just be like, oh,
yeah, this is real.

728
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,040
Unless you saw him face to face,
right?

729
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:51,160
And even then you could be
getting a, you know, the CIA

730
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,040
could be implanting you with
ideas and, you know, all this

731
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,680
sort of stuff, whatever the
thing that Jeff's always talking

732
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,160
about.
So it's like, you know.

733
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaking of Jeff, hi, Bud.
Sorry I had to take the mask off

734
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,600
for a man.
I think it was like restricting

735
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,360
the blood flow on my brain.
You got to build a mark on your

736
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,360
head now.
Yeah, I know.

737
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,240
You see that?
Yeah, both sides.

738
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,680
Yeah, I don't know what.
Do you think?

739
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,400
Jeff or would you or would you
say that they were still

740
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,520
interdimensionals?
Would you be willing to accept

741
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,560
them as being outer space
aliens?

742
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,360
Wait.
Say that again.

743
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,280
I'm sorry.
Ask that again.

744
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,680
Well, it's the same question.
I'm just sending it to you

745
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,920
versus, you know, whether
they're real aliens or demons,

746
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,880
would you think that they're
real aliens or would you still

747
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:45,120
be on board with their
interdimensionals or inner Earth

748
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,280
beings or whatever?
I mean, I, I think any of the

749
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,920
things are possible, right?
But I I wouldn't necessarily,

750
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,080
even if something was like
interdimensional, I wouldn't

751
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,640
necessarily think that it's
demonic.

752
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,320
No, no, no.
I mean, I'm not saying demonic

753
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,240
for you because you are.
That's that's my.

754
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,480
I believe, I understand, but I
do believe in that kind of

755
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,360
thing.
I believe in demons, right?

756
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,600
Like we've had this
conversation.

757
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,200
I believe in these things, but I
wouldn't necessarily think that

758
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,160
just because something is
interdimensional necessarily

759
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,760
makes it evil or demonic, right,
or whatever there there's got to

760
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,960
be angelic forces as well.
I believe, I do believe in like

761
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,160
duality and that kind of.
Thing I guess it would have to

762
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:31,040
depend on the message.
The message right or well,

763
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:32,960
that's the thing too.
Creamer always talks about on

764
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,800
shadow band like you know that
the the guy like in revelations

765
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,440
that like the the Antichrist,
like everybody loves the guy,

766
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,640
right?
And it's like.

767
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,200
Everyone.
Not everyone, but like most of

768
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,880
the world loves the guy who's
the greatest guy ever, you know?

769
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,440
And like everything is super
dope for a while.

770
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,440
Like so you know, the message
itself might sound great too,

771
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,320
but you never know.
I guess it's hard to say.

772
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,400
Well, I would say that there
would have to be a level of

773
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:06,640
discernment and you know, yeah,
I mean, someone comes around

774
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,320
toting like the idea for World
Peace and all that stuff.

775
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,640
I mean, let's I'm not going to
I'm not the yeah, wars all the

776
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:18,200
time, everyone dying guy, right?
I'm not saying that, but one of

777
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,720
the things that the Antichrist
is supposed to do is make a

778
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:25,040
peace treaty between Israel and
all the other nations, right?

779
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:30,400
And then he, he allows them to
start worshipping again, which

780
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,960
in order to to worship the way
that the Jews are supposed to

781
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,640
worship, they have to have the
temple, which is currently in

782
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,920
conflict on wherever that the
last temple, the second temple's

783
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,600
location was, whether it's
really in the spot where the

784
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,400
Dome of the Rock is right now,
which is, you know, the biggest

785
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,880
Muslim mosque ever.
They're not going to demolish

786
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,560
the Dome of the Rock to freaking
to put up, you know, a Jewish

787
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,800
temple, but that would have to
get built.

788
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,000
The Jews are already ready to
go.

789
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000
They have all of the, the, the
priestly garbs and all that sort

790
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:06,280
of stuff.
But anyway, so anyway, there's

791
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,480
things that the Antichrist is
going to do before he comes out

792
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,520
and says, you know what?
I am God.

793
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,480
You have to worship me.
And if you don't worship me, I'm

794
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:19,760
going to kill you.
So although I'm I would love to

795
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,680
see ten years or seven years
where we're where there's no

796
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:28,640
wars, that would be great.
Someone comes out and starts

797
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,520
doing that sort of stuff because
I have that discernment and I

798
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,440
know what the guy is supposed to
do.

799
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,040
I can be like, that's suspicious
versus everyone else, which

800
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,240
would just be like, oh, yeah,
this is great.

801
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:43,800
You know, of course.
So it that's it would have to be

802
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,520
with the message.
It's like, yeah, a spiritual

803
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,760
being, whether it's angelic or
demonic, but what's the message,

804
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,960
right.
Because in the fallen world

805
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:59,400
today, you know, it could be
something that the whole entire

806
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,480
world wants to rally behind.
But anyone with any, you know,

807
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,440
biblical sin sense would be able
to look at that and be like,

808
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,680
well, that's not actually good,
right?

809
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:09,640
Yeah.
Yeah.

810
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,960
So.
But either way, I mean, yes, the

811
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,440
possibility could exist that
there would be aliens or

812
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,520
sophisticated beings on another
planet.

813
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,400
But for me, it's just not
probable because it's like the

814
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,920
distance to get here.
How would you do that?

815
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,400
How long would it take?
And it's certainly when it comes

816
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,120
to UFO sightings.
And they have freaking landing

817
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,400
lights.
And I'm like, Nah.

818
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:47,160
Yeah, I just, I see so much of
this like UFO propaganda coming

819
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,800
out now that it's just like the
more comes out, the more I'm

820
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,040
like, here we go.
Man, it's fucking heavy right

821
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,200
now too.
It is so heavy, bro.

822
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,080
They're all, I think it's just
they're about to hit us with the

823
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,000
all like, you know, we got to
come together, the one world

824
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,000
order.
Thing we have to destroy the

825
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,600
enemy, shoot a nuke at him, you
know?

826
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,080
Yeah, fight the bugs, dude.
You know, I've been, I've been

827
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:14,000
thinking about the the whole
space travel thing with alien

828
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,960
civilizations visiting Earth.
How how long did it take for us

829
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,560
to go from horse and carriage to
you?

830
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,440
Ready for this rocket to the
moon?

831
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,360
Like 100 years, right?
Yeah, that's.

832
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,000
That's just 100 years of of
innovation and.

833
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:36,000
I think like difference between
World War One or even in World

834
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:43,080
War 2 and our stuff today.
It's like World War 2, we saw

835
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,720
the aircraft engine go from
where we're getting into the

836
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:51,320
start of kind of like jet planes
and stuff like that.

837
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Most of it was still props, but
weaponry started getting more

838
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,640
advanced and everything just
after World War 2.

839
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:06,400
You know, in the next decade and
a half over, we're shooting

840
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:12,920
rockets and now we have jets
that can fly like 2000 miles an

841
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,480
hour, you know, and freaking or
we could shoot a freaking

842
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,880
intercontinental ballistic
missile that goes all that goes

843
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,600
out of the atmosphere, goes
around the Earth, comes straight

844
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,160
back down and could freaking
knockout someone's house.

845
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,560
They had the other side of the
year too, right?

846
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:29,960
They had that in.
World War, yeah.

847
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,680
Well, the, the V2 rocket program
and all that sort of stuff, but

848
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,800
it was just like, you know, a
number of kilometers, like 1020

849
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,000
kilometers.
But so.

850
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,720
It's so it's just like, so yeah,
I mean the advancements in

851
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:41,280
technology have gone through the
roof.

852
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,320
So honestly, they wouldn't even
have to be that much more

853
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,840
advanced to.
But my.

854
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,720
Point.
My point is, is that if it took

855
00:47:49,720 --> 00:47:53,000
us 100 years ago from horse and
buggy to go into the moon or

856
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,720
even more than that right,
sending drones to Mars.

857
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,120
I mean what?
What do you think of this a

858
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,600
civilization would be able to do
if they were thousands of years

859
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,840
older than us?
Yeah, but The thing is, well,

860
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,960
are you talking about a
civilization on another planet?

861
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Sure, yeah.
Well, that's not the problem.

862
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,640
The problem is the distance in
the expanding of the universe,

863
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:16,320
right?
So.

864
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,600
Right, I, I understand
everything.

865
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,040
Everything's expanding out from
a a singular point, the.

866
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,680
Big as you want, but
realistically is if you're not

867
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,160
traveling faster than light
somehow then.

868
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,320
Oh.
You also got to remember that

869
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,840
there is theoretics and
wormholes, and if if a

870
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,000
civilization can master the
technology, master that science,

871
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,400
master that mathematics that's
needed in order to manipulate

872
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:48,240
wormholes, that's a whole
different story.

873
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:51,720
Maybe, I don't know, to me
that's like a cheat code like

874
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:53,760
when I think about that and I
don't like that too much.

875
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,800
Like I try not to play games
with cheat codes too much

876
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,320
because it just ruins the game
for me.

877
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:02,000
But like for real, you know, and
like, I get that that's like an

878
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,320
actual thing and people think
about this.

879
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:06,760
Oh, I who knows, it's
theoretical, but you know,

880
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,200
theoretically is an actual
thing.

881
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,680
But I like to think of it more
like if it's possible than in

882
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,960
the expansion and the distances.
Like it's more interesting for

883
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,000
me to think about, like maybe a
civilization has to travel in a

884
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,400
certain direction through the
universe in order to get to

885
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,120
certain things and can't go the
other way.

886
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,680
So if we're all expanding, there
has to be like a certain

887
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,000
trajectory of expansion, if that
makes sense, Like this object is

888
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,280
moving away from.
This, yeah.

889
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,040
So maybe they could travel to
this?

890
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,200
Closer to your mic friend.
They could travel to this object

891
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:42,320
but not back to the one they
came from, if that makes sense.

892
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,560
So it might be like a one way
trip for, well, they.

893
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,960
'D have to get a wormhole going
back the other way.

894
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,320
Well, I'm not even talking about
wormholes.

895
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,840
I'm talking about outside of
outside of Chico.

896
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,040
'S so.
Oh, but here's another thing

897
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,200
too.
Just because civilization has

898
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,960
been around for thousands of
years doesn't mean that

899
00:49:59,960 --> 00:50:02,520
necessarily they're also
advanced.

900
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,040
Like.
Think of like the United States.

901
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,640
We we invented the Internet,
right?

902
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,080
And blue jeans and the business
suit and things like that.

903
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,400
But you get other civilizations
that have been around for

904
00:50:14,720 --> 00:50:17,760
thousands of years and they
still make their homes at a dirt

905
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,440
right?
Or they still run around in the

906
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,920
the jungle with bows and arrows
eating monkeys and stuff like

907
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,520
that.
So just because of civilization,

908
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,960
even on our own planet, is
thousands of years older than

909
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,480
another one, doesn't mean that
they're doing anything with it.

910
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,800
Yeah.
No, I mean, I, I totally get

911
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,720
that, right.
But then you're, you're also

912
00:50:38,720 --> 00:50:43,480
saying that, or you're assuming
that we're just the smartest

913
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,200
thing out there, like something
like it's something that's more

914
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,400
intelligent than us may only
need five years to do the same

915
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,440
innovations that we did in 100
years.

916
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,440
You know, and, and I know you
have your, your beliefs, right,

917
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,680
but from my point of view that
there's got to be something else

918
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,400
out there.
And I don't believe that we're

919
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,880
the smartest thing in the
universe.

920
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,080
Biology.
Not because there's God and

921
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,440
everything else.
Well, you know, and, and then,

922
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,560
you know, like we're, we're just
getting into the sciences of

923
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,600
antimatter or negative matter as
they're calling it now, right,

924
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,360
Because positive and negatives,
everything equals out in this

925
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,920
world, right?
You have, you have matter.

926
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:24,280
You have.
Dark you have all.

927
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,360
That's the duality I'm talking
about.

928
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,440
Right, right.
But but now we're starting to

929
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:38,160
find out that if we manipulate
negative matter or, or fuck, I

930
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,680
can't think of it.
I just said it too, I'm going to

931
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,680
call it negative matter.
So if we can manipulate negative

932
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,560
matter, grab some.
We don't know what it is, we

933
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,160
don't know where it is.
But due to the laws of physics,

934
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,240
it has to exist somewhere,
right?

935
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:54,000
Everything has its opposite,
right?

936
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,360
Positive negatives equals 0,
right?

937
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,480
So if.
We were anti mass.

938
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:06,440
Yeah, if if we were to be able
to capture anti mass and seclude

939
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,080
it into a chamber and then put
it next to another chamber that

940
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:19,880
had regular mass or material,
you would get this, this

941
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,120
constant flow, this attraction
between the two of them.

942
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,640
And then if you have another
one, right, let's say we, we

943
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,480
sandwich that negative mass with
two positive masses.

944
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:35,520
Now as long as we're shooting
electricity through these

945
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,760
positive masses, we increase
their gravitational pull via the

946
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,920
flux lines of their magnetic
waves, right?

947
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:45,200
So now.
You have this sense.

948
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,400
So I know so now.
So now you have this negative

949
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,200
mass going back and forward
between the two of them with

950
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:56,840
pretty much 0 effort whatsoever
except for initial start up the

951
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,840
spark plug in your car.
And you have that motion of the

952
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,520
negative mass going back and
forth between the two positive

953
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,600
masses.
That's free propulsion, that's

954
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,840
energy.
That's.

955
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,880
Yeah, but that's that's like an
empty vacuum chamber and you

956
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,760
freaking, you suck all the air
out of the vacuum chamber.

957
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,640
OK, well, you have nothing,
right?

958
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,320
There's nothing in there anti
mass.

959
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,440
I mean, call it what you want.
There's nothing there we don't

960
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,600
have.
You can't then take that vacuum

961
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,640
chamber and shake it up, and now
you have a engine I.

962
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,640
Mean you're, you're looking at
it in a very vase though.

963
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,200
I mean, obviously there has to
be some technology built around

964
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:37,280
it, right?
I mean.

965
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,640
You shake it up and now you have
an engine.

966
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,320
Oh shoot, my vacuum chamber is
flying off into the sky.

967
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,560
But what I'm saying is that the
power behind this stuff, if you

968
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,480
just, if you're able to restrict
the, the, the natural laws of

969
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,920
attraction between positive and
negative materials or charges,

970
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,680
you're able to create power that
can pretty much bring you up to

971
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,360
the speed of light.
Now, it may take time to

972
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,040
accelerate that fast and it's
going to take time to break, you

973
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:08,480
know, from, from the speed of
light, but it, you can get

974
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,400
pretty fast to this stuff, man.
This is all stuff that they're

975
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,720
working on right now.
This is something that that

976
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:15,000
they're doing at CERN.
This is, I mean, obviously you

977
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,920
know, Cern's a bad word around
here, but what do you got there?

978
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,360
What is this?
I can't even read it.

979
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Inertial reduction or inertial
mass reduction device.

980
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,600
Now that sounds exactly like
what I'm talking about right

981
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,040
there.
Bring her up.

982
00:54:29,720 --> 00:54:31,960
Look at this.
This is a fucking patent for

983
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:33,880
this shit.
See.

984
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,360
Craft using an inertial mass
reduction device comprises of an

985
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,400
inner resonant cavity wall,
outer resonant cavity and a

986
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,040
microwave emitters.
Electrically charged outer

987
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,520
resonant cavity wall and
electrically insulated inner

988
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,880
resonant cavity wall form a
resonant cavity.

989
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,040
The microwave emitters create
high frequency electromagnetic

990
00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,240
waves throughout the resident
cavity, causing the resident

991
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,720
cavity to vibrate in an
accelerated mode and create a

992
00:54:56,720 --> 00:54:59,840
local polarized vacuum outside
the outer resident cavity wall.

993
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,880
Yeah, it's like I read that.
It's like I read that myself.

994
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,160
Like this triangle spacecraft
that we keep seeing all over the

995
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,600
place.
Oh look, the Navy.

996
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,040
The TR 3B.
Department of the Navy adjusted

997
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:17,160
exploration still going 02036.
Yeah.

998
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Yeah, man, this is shit that
we're working on right now.

999
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:24,880
Now just imagine that there's
this civilization out there that

1000
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,440
already has this shit figured
out.

1001
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,720
They've.
Mastered it 16 They applied for

1002
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,320
this in 2016 or filed in 2016
for this.

1003
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:37,320
Well, then in that case, I would
have to say that that one guy

1004
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,560
that was just on the Shawn Ryan
Show podcast, I was kind of

1005
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,680
talking about all this sort of
stuff.

1006
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,760
His statement, yeah, that his
statement that he made where

1007
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,840
he's like, look at the way we
treat other species on this

1008
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,160
planet.
If they're inferior, inferior to

1009
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,480
U.S. intelligence wise, we eat
them.

1010
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:03,440
Now think of a civilization out
there in the beyond that has is

1011
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:06,960
so much more intelligent than us
and we are inferior to them.

1012
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:09,640
With our lacking intelligence,
are we just going to become

1013
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,080
cattle?
They show up.

1014
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,720
Oh man, you know what?
Fuck that.

1015
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:16,880
We're not going to do the
Murfreesboro Monster or Black

1016
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:22,920
Swan.
We need to do the fucking, the

1017
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,240
Fermi paradox.
Why?

1018
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:26,960
That's what we need to do
because that's what we're

1019
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,600
talking about right now.
Yeah, Yep.

1020
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,640
There.
You go method and means for

1021
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:39,400
creating artificial gravity in
spacecraft 19721969.

1022
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,040
Excuse me?
Wait, are we talking about if

1023
00:56:42,240 --> 00:56:46,200
the the paradox thing in
reference to this or in

1024
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,000
reference to me saying we're
going to get eaten?

1025
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,120
That to, to what you just said
about us getting in.

1026
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,600
It's, it's in a, it's in a vague
sense.

1027
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,360
And in a vague sense, it's not
exactly what the Fermi paradox

1028
00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:57,840
is.
The Fermi paradox asks the

1029
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,440
questions, the question of if
there's so many civilizations

1030
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,440
out there in the universe, why
haven't we been visited?

1031
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:09,560
But there's a, there's a longer
version to it too, right?

1032
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,520
It goes along the lines of if
you use the Drake equation.

1033
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,040
Do you know what the Drake
equation is?

1034
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:19,280
It's I know who Drake is.
It's, it's a, it's a, it's an

1035
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:23,800
equation used to predict the
amount of intelligent

1036
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,640
civilizations there are in the
universe.

1037
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,960
And you have to, you have to
find out these variables.

1038
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,560
You know, you have to find out
the values of of these inputs.

1039
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,240
Bring it up, Jeff, Jamie, bring
it up.

1040
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,320
I think that.
Bring up the Drake equation,

1041
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,200
but.
I think that look.

1042
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,640
At this shit.
Nevermind, I lost it.

1043
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,040
Fucking force field generator.
Yeah, man.

1044
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,160
Bro, they're building.
I'm telling you, they got

1045
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:59,720
breakaway so they got fucking
space cruisers and shit up

1046
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,360
there, man.
They're doing it.

1047
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,600
They've been doing it, I think.
I think they've been up there

1048
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,600
for like 50 years, probably with
like space destroyers and.

1049
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,800
Can you imagine getting one of
them Little, I don't even know

1050
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,680
what they're called, like
floating jet skis that they have

1051
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,400
in Star Wars that they're
zipping around in the the woods

1052
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,400
with?
Getting one of those things

1053
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,520
yeah.
Versus like a motorcycle that

1054
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,240
be.
Nope, dude, I know Jeremy's

1055
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,680
never seen any of this shit, but
you know, like any of these

1056
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:31,240
like, you know, Babylon five,
Star Trek, Star Wars, like any

1057
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:36,600
of these ideas where you have
like these giant fleets of you

1058
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:37,720
know.
I'm telling.

1059
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:40,960
You I.
Learned a new a new term

1060
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,840
yesterday.
Do you remember it, Jake?

1061
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,320
A new term?
Yeah.

1062
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:47,960
Was it yesterday?
Yeah.

1063
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,760
No, it was.
No, it was 2 days ago. 2 days

1064
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,880
ago when you were over my house
and I was, I was working out in

1065
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,800
my little makeshift gym down
here.

1066
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,360
Is that where the term is?
Space operas.

1067
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,600
Anyways, I told Jake I was like,
I don't like space operas and

1068
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,560
he's like space operas or just
people singing in space.

1069
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,440
No, space operas are just Star
Wars and Star Trek.

1070
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,640
That kind of stuff dude.
Which is weird because it's all

1071
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:13,920
aliens.
You like aliens?

1072
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,400
Yeah, not that kind.
Look, you know, in the

1073
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,600
multiverse.
I'm not a big epic guy.

1074
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,080
It's.
I need science hardship and no

1075
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,560
science in it.
It's like 2 movies but no one

1076
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,000
watches the second one.
It's, it's it's the same thing

1077
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,840
with like Marvel movies, man.
I'm not I'm not a fan of Marvel

1078
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,120
because all it all, all they do
is they add like these bright

1079
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:39,320
explosions and they dangle some
keys in front of you and they're

1080
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,040
like, look, be entertained by
this.

1081
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,480
But yet they're they're script
writing fucking sucks, right?

1082
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,480
There's nothing behind it.
They're terrible.

1083
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,680
The people who write for them
are terrible people.

1084
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,520
Kenzar says that those bikes are
called speeders.

1085
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,480
Crystal says now he's
discriminating against aliens.

1086
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,160
Yeah, you're a, you're a
specious dude.

1087
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,240
I guess I am.
Yeah.

1088
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,960
I guess I am it is what it is.
Check that dude, I'm on a I'm

1089
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,160
going down a rabbit hole now.
Did you bring up the Drake

1090
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:08,680
equation yet?
No, I forgot.

1091
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:09,840
I'm sorry I went down a rabbit
hole.

1092
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,200
Look dude, walking through
walls.

1093
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,760
Training System Patent This
invention is a training system

1094
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,920
which enables a human being to
acquire sufficient hyperspace

1095
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,360
energy in order to pull the body
out of dimension so that the

1096
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,800
person can walk through solid
objects such as wooden doors.

1097
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,680
Hey, hey, Jeff.
Jeff.

1098
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,280
Yeah, dude.
Jeff, when you present your one

1099
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,400
episode next year, why don't you
just bring patents all?

1100
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,240
Right.
That would actually be super

1101
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,800
easy.
A good conversation.

1102
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,400
He's right here.
John Sinclair.

1103
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,040
That's his fucking name.
I was, I was just going to ask,

1104
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,440
who's the guy's name?
That was like trying to run

1105
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:50,800
through walls and like part of
the damn, I can't think of the

1106
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,240
damn fucking program now, one of
those Stargate programs or

1107
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,640
whatever it was.
He was trying to run through

1108
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,720
walls, man.
You know what he needs to

1109
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:03,040
finish?
He needs to finish freaking that

1110
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,320
gateway process thing.
Yeah, he does.

1111
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,160
Which is easy you just reading
it and then trying to explain it

1112
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,840
to these to to me because I'm
dumb but.

1113
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,960
Yeah, Jeff.
Jeff likes to leave things on

1114
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,720
finisher.
Well, you need to finish

1115
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,640
communion.
I didn't unfinish that.

1116
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,360
You were like, we got to do a
different.

1117
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,600
We got to start this other
fucking series and then we just

1118
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:26,800
never went back to it.
That's not.

1119
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,160
True.
No, you said that you didn't

1120
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,640
want to do it anymore because
you didn't.

1121
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,040
Like it We were already halfway
through.

1122
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,120
Yeah, you said.
Well, I don't want to do this

1123
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,960
anymore.
I don't like reading like this.

1124
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,840
I like going off script.
You're making the show.

1125
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,400
No, that's what you said.
And then you're like, oh, let me

1126
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,000
pull up a bunch of readers and
read them to you.

1127
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:45,760
I'm.
The greatest reader in the land

1128
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,320
are.
You guys ready for some more Men

1129
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,720
in Black?
No.

1130
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:53,240
I mean, we're.
Like, at this rate, at this

1131
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,720
rate, we might as well just say
screw it, we're going to do

1132
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:59,040
another episode on it and just
keep arguing with each other

1133
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,360
about aliens.
We're bad at this.

1134
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:05,640
Are we?
Well, it's along the lines.

1135
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,200
Good at it.
Hold on.

1136
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,080
All right.
Have you even seen the movie Men

1137
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,320
in Black?
Are you lying?

1138
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:14,640
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.

1139
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,240
I don't know.
I I think I did.

1140
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,840
I think I did.
I'm pretty sure I did when I was

1141
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:20,880
a kid.
I don't, I don't remember it.

1142
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:22,960
Can't tell you what it was.
I mean, there's like a few

1143
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,240
movies here.
The other ones are pretty

1144
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,000
garbage.
I don't think I saw more than

1145
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,320
one.
I'm pretty sure I did.

1146
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,720
I remember the the flashy thingy
and then.

1147
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:34,920
Yeah.
Yeah, it was probably one of

1148
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,440
those things where it was on,
but I wasn't paying attention.

1149
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,480
Yeah.
So it is what it is.

1150
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:48,440
Crystal, I can't kidnap him
because I gave him a firearm and

1151
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:50,080
he would use it on me.
Pew Pew.

1152
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,360
I'd have to go all out.
I couldn't just I couldn't just

1153
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,680
show up and be like, hey, man,
let's hang out.

1154
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,480
I would have to put on a ski
mask and, and chloroform him and

1155
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,200
drag him out of his house,
hitting his head on every step

1156
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,640
on the way out and and stuffing
him into a a bag.

1157
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,240
You know why?
But throwing him in the back of

1158
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,280
the car and taking him over and
then like clockwork, forging his

1159
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:16,400
eyes open and forcing him to
watch movies because I just it,

1160
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,280
it's the ADD, you know, I just,
I have to go just all out at

1161
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:21,640
stuff.
I can't just, you know.

1162
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,360
You said you're going to clock.
Monkey around with it.

1163
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,920
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're going to make him watch

1164
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,880
all of these movies.
Hell yeah.

1165
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:31,120
You guys ever had Bell Vita
crunchies dude?

1166
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:34,480
No.
Yeah, these are delicious.

1167
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,480
Bell Vita Bell Vita sponsor us
dude, please.

1168
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,080
Look at the ingredients in that.
It's probably terrible.

1169
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:42,720
I don't give a.
Shit, they're delicious.

1170
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,320
Yeah, I like the blueberry ones.
I also like the blueberry ones,

1171
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:47,120
they're really good all.
Right.

1172
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:53,000
I'm ready to continue.
I was just going to look through

1173
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,280
and see if there's any ones that
are actually wanted to to like

1174
01:03:56,480 --> 01:04:01,120
make sure we get out.
Keats Island, British Columbia,

1175
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:06,760
January and May 1968 A woman who
had moved to a remote cabin in

1176
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:11,800
October of 1967 began witnessing
a plethora of strange lights in

1177
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,720
the sky almost immediately after
moving on January 29th, after

1178
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,960
witnessing a cigar shaped craft
with dimmed red and yellow

1179
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,080
lights, 2 quote UN quote,
employees of the local

1180
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:28,760
hydroelectric company dressed in
all black coverall stopped by

1181
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:32,000
her cabin.
The men offered to help her

1182
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:36,080
install her stovepipe and
completed the task and had a

1183
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,240
glass of tea with her before
they left.

1184
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,760
She admits that they were
strange.

1185
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,720
Their skin was a dark olive
color and they had issues with

1186
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,600
walking.
They always looked at their feet

1187
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,360
while they were walking about
and even though they were

1188
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,640
watching their feet, they still
found it hard to walk straight.

1189
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,400
On May 2nd she once again
encountered 2 strange dark olive

1190
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,960
colored men in all black.
One of them was one of the men

1191
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,400
who stopped by and helped her
install her stove pipe.

1192
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:10,800
The other was much younger, she
guesstimated at 19 to 20 years

1193
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,360
old.
This time they were on a path on

1194
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,440
her property that she was
walking on and moved to the side

1195
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:20,040
of the walkway for her to pass.
She reports that she felt

1196
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,680
strange as the pair sat there
and stared at her for a while

1197
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:27,320
while she passed, but they had
claimed to yet again be there to

1198
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,360
inspect water and electric lines
for the company.

1199
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,080
The very next day, a Jeep full
of four workers in normal blue

1200
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,120
working clothes and acting
perfectly normal showed up to

1201
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:42,800
her house from the hydroelectric
company claiming to be there to

1202
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:46,040
inspect her lines.
When she told them that there

1203
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,080
were already two guys here the
day prior, the supervisor of the

1204
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,800
crew told her that whoever they
were, they weren't from the

1205
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:54,920
hydroelectric company.
Albany, NY.

1206
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,520
February 1968.
Wait, wait, wait.

1207
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,360
Yes.
Jeffrey, you just made me think

1208
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:01,360
of something.
I figured it out.

1209
01:06:01,800 --> 01:06:04,200
Oh, you thought, let's do it.
Yeah, I figured it out.

1210
01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,720
Think about this, right?
You know how like AID pig

1211
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:09,480
videos?
Like it's hard for them to get

1212
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,440
certain things right?
Like the hands are always weird,

1213
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,200
the faces and crowds are always
weird.

1214
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,480
Like humans walking is kind of
weird.

1215
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,960
Can't quite get it.
Except that uncanny valley ship.

1216
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,480
Yeah.
I wonder if implanted memories

1217
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:24,360
are the same way, or at least if
implanted memories back then

1218
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,680
were the same.
Way maybe the uncanny valley is

1219
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:29,240
interesting.
My my thought is basically like,

1220
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,720
what if the Men in Black aren't
actually there?

1221
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:35,880
They're just implanted memories
in a way, kind of like like

1222
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:37,320
screen memories what you're
talking about.

1223
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,280
Yep.
Where like instead of

1224
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,960
remembering the actual event
with the entities, you remember

1225
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,800
the owls or whatever the thing
was.

1226
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,000
What if the Men in Black is just
another version of that and it

1227
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,840
just can't quite get that
uncanny valley thing down

1228
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,560
because it's not human, so it
doesn't understand fully how to

1229
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,640
represent a human in these.
False.

1230
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:59,320
Memories, That is an extremely
interesting point of view on

1231
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,160
this.
I like that a lot actually,

1232
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,280
because you know, when we were
talking about the screen

1233
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:07,120
memories and and the owls and
how they were imperfect, right?

1234
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,960
Some owls would be wearing these
boot like things or they would

1235
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,840
have a human like face or a
human like appendage or some

1236
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,240
sort of bipedal appendage on
them.

1237
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,920
The screen, the screen memory
theory tells you that, you know,

1238
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,560
they, they can't master their
craft, They're not mastered at

1239
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,200
it yet.
It's they're not, you know,

1240
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:30,080
perfect.
And if you apply that to the Men

1241
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,200
in Black story and theories,
then it makes a lot of sense.

1242
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,640
It really does.
And I mean, in that case, you

1243
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,200
could be dealing with one or two
things, right?

1244
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:45,720
Most likely you're dealing with
either an extraterrestrial

1245
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,240
being, whether it be from outer
space or or a different

1246
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,120
dimension, or you're dealing
with the government.

1247
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:52,160
Interesting.
I like it.

1248
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,760
I like that.
Brought to you by by reading

1249
01:07:56,200 --> 01:08:01,160
Velveeta Crunchy.
They have to you're.

1250
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,360
Going to get a sued.
Are you guys ready to move on?

1251
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:09,320
Albany, NY February 1968 An avid
UFO investigator named Jennifer

1252
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:12,440
Stevens reported a strange
incident.

1253
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,479
Her husband had stopped into the
local coffee shop during work

1254
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,399
hours where a man struck up a
conversation with him.

1255
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:23,600
The man was strange and had a
darker olive complexion, but

1256
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,080
what was really strange was that
the man talked only about UF OS

1257
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,680
Peter, Jennifer's husband didn't
really know what to make of it.

1258
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,359
Jennifer was the sky watcher,
not him.

1259
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:38,479
The man would abruptly stop,
stand up and say one last thing.

1260
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:44,040
Quote People who look for UFOs
would be very, very careful.

1261
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,040
Jennifer would get in contact
with John Kegel about the

1262
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:51,640
incident, and when Kegel asked
Peter to draw the person he saw

1263
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,600
Peter drew two of them.
One they sent to Keel and the

1264
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,319
other they kept for themselves.
A few weeks later, their house

1265
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:00,800
was broken into during the
night.

1266
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,200
The only thing that they could
find missing was the sketch that

1267
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,960
Peter drew a strange man.
Two months later, Peter died of

1268
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,279
unknown circumstances.
Jennifer was convinced that it

1269
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:15,319
was tied to the strange man and
her UFO research, so she

1270
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,640
immediately stopped everything
and anything to do with the

1271
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:22,319
subject of UFOs.
John Keel would go on to use

1272
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:25,319
Peter's drawing whenever someone
would report a run in with a

1273
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:29,359
member or members of the Men in
Black, which was typically met

1274
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,399
with confirmation that it was a
man that they had also

1275
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:37,920
encountered.
Arcadia, FL 1972 Author Timothy

1276
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:43,080
Beckley mentions in his book
Curse of the Men in Black, the

1277
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:49,200
story of former FBI employee
Patricia Hyde where in 1972 she

1278
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,800
witnessed a strange object in
the sky over Arcadia, FL.

1279
01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,760
This of course sent her down the
UFO rabbit hole as it does with

1280
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,040
so many others.
Shortly after she would be

1281
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,720
approached by a man with sharp
and thin eyes dressed in an all

1282
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,840
black suit.
The man sternly told her quote,

1283
01:10:06,440 --> 01:10:09,120
You will stop investigating
flying saucers.

1284
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:15,160
Decatur, IL Early 1970s
cryptozoologist and owner of the

1285
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,600
International Cryptozoology
Museum in Portland, ME, Lauren

1286
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,600
Coleman had his own encounter
with a strange man in black,

1287
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,560
which he outlines in his book
Mysterious America.

1288
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,040
In the section of the book that
outlines his research into the

1289
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:33,600
mad Gassero Mattoon from the
1930s, Lauren described his

1290
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,720
experience with a Lieutenant
Applegate at his then home in

1291
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,120
Eldorado in the Eldorado
apartments.

1292
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:44,640
Quote A darkly suited, very thin
man who said he was with the

1293
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,240
Decatur Police Department
stepped into my life.

1294
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,280
He identified himself as
Detective Lieutenant Applegate.

1295
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:58,600
He said he was checking to see
if I was the enema, the enema

1296
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,400
bandit, and why I was digging
into this story.

1297
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,600
He said I should stop
researching this series of

1298
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,680
cases.
A few days after the encounter

1299
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:12,280
with a strange man, Coleman
attempted to contact him by way

1300
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:16,080
of the Decatur Police Department
when he was shocked to discover

1301
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:20,080
that nobody matching the name of
Applegate or the man's physical

1302
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,920
description ever worked in the
department.

1303
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:29,400
I'll do one more.
Mexico City, Mexico 1975 On May

1304
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:35,760
3rd, 1975, Carlos Antonio de Los
Santos Montiel was flying his

1305
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:40,920
private Piper Aztec 24 airplane
when shortly after taking off

1306
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,240
from Mexico City, he was
surrounded by three flying

1307
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:47,360
saucer like craft.
The saucer shadowed him for a

1308
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:51,320
while until he randomly was
lifted from 15,000 feet to

1309
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:56,040
15,800 feet in elevation without
his control.

1310
01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:59,960
A media app immediately after
the saucers flew away at

1311
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:02,920
incredible speeds, and Carlos
was left alone the rest of his

1312
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,280
flight.
Several weeks after this

1313
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,200
encounter, he was driving to a
local news station to be

1314
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,360
interviewed about the event when
a car forced him to pull over on

1315
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:14,360
the side of the road.
A strange man dressed in all

1316
01:12:14,360 --> 01:12:18,240
black approached Montiel and
sternly stated that I would be

1317
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:23,040
unwise to appear on the show.
Montiel was so shaken up from

1318
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,200
the encounter with the man that
he did not appear on the show

1319
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:29,360
and remained very hesitant to
speak about either encounter

1320
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:33,280
ever again.
All right, let's talk about it.

1321
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:35,880
FA, you got to come back.
There he is.

1322
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:37,560
My bad.
Yeah.

1323
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,720
Rick Bear.
What's up, bro?

1324
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,160
First time shatter.
How you doing, bud?

1325
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,840
How you doing?
What's up, Rick?

1326
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,400
Hey, if you're in the chat and
you're not following the

1327
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,360
infinite rabbit hole, make sure
you hit that follow.

1328
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:50,280
The follow button for us, Rick.
Appreciate you.

1329
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:51,680
All right.
So what do you guys?

1330
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,000
Think talking.
About We've been doing it for

1331
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,040
three days now.
Yeah, I mean.

1332
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,240
No, we had an interview last
time.

1333
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:01,800
Oh, we did, didn't we?
You're right.

1334
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,840
Yeah.
Yeah.

1335
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,520
Well.
Skeeter says that we did a cover

1336
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,800
where Bouffad started because
it's from Barron, Wisconsin.

1337
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:16,720
It's not far from us.
For those that are unfamiliar

1338
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,120
with MUFON, there's probably not
a lot of you, but I'm sure

1339
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:21,360
there's one or two listening to
the infinite rabbit hole right

1340
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,520
now that are not familiar with
MUFON.

1341
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,440
That is the Mutual UFO Network
and is one of the absolute

1342
01:13:26,440 --> 01:13:31,360
biggest networks or
organizations in the study of

1343
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:32,720
ufology.
Yeah, man.

1344
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:38,160
Look, I mean, I don't know, I
think I've pretty much exhausted

1345
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,520
my thoughts on what the Men in
Black are.

1346
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,720
Could be, right?
There's a million theories.

1347
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,080
The one that I just came up with
a few minutes ago is probably my

1348
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,640
favorite so far, right?
The just the, the janky cheap

1349
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:56,640
fake screen memory men in black.
And then of course there's

1350
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,440
obviously like actual what we,
you, you can call them the men

1351
01:14:00,440 --> 01:14:02,480
in black, right?
Like three letter agencies will

1352
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:06,960
come knock on your door if you
see some shit that's classified

1353
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,400
or, you know, whatever the case
is.

1354
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,520
So both.
Yeah, both.

1355
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:18,080
I'll do one more.
I have a couple other sightings

1356
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:22,120
and encounters, but I'll do one
more just because it's from

1357
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,880
Idaho and we know somebody from
Idaho, so.

1358
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:29,400
Who do we know from Idaho?
Her name's Whitney also.

1359
01:14:29,480 --> 01:14:30,440
Oh, my wife.
Yeah.

1360
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,000
Yes.
Yeah, she's from Idaho.

1361
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:37,560
So we'll, we'll knockout this
Idaho one and there's plenty of

1362
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:40,360
content to do multiple Men in
Black episodes.

1363
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,360
So maybe somewhere down the road
we'll revisit and I'll I'll tack

1364
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,640
on the other encounters that I
did not cover.

1365
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,920
We're already an hour and a half
into this recording, so got to

1366
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,880
start wrapping her up.
So guys, ready?

1367
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:59,920
For the story, Yep.
North Idaho, mid 1970s A doctor

1368
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:04,040
mentioned in Nick Redfern's book
The Real Men in Black who wanted

1369
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:07,800
to Remain anonymous, tells of a
story when he was asked to look

1370
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,080
at an abrasion on a young boy's
arm.

1371
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,440
When the doctor asked the boy
how he had gotten the injury,

1372
01:15:13,480 --> 01:15:17,280
the boy told of how it was quote
the space doctors who had given

1373
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,360
it to him.
The boy elaborated and described

1374
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,280
how he watched a strange
airplane land in the woods

1375
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,920
behind his house.
He was curious and entered the

1376
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:29,200
woods to get a better look.
There he came across strange

1377
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:32,880
looking people who captured him
and brought him to another craft

1378
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,600
and what would later be
described as conducting medical

1379
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,320
and intelligence tests on the
boy.

1380
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:43,000
The boy didn't really put much
weight into what the young.

1381
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,320
I'm sorry.
The doctor didn't really put

1382
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,040
much weight into what the young
boy was telling him as he

1383
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,760
believed it was just a case of
the boy's imagination.

1384
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,600
But five years later, two men
dressed in all black with black

1385
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,800
hats and black sunglasses showed
up at his door asking about the

1386
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,160
boy's story.
The unnamed Dr. asked the two

1387
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,560
men why they wanted to know
information on the boy, in which

1388
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,000
the one in front who did all of
the talking claimed that they

1389
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:13,080
were just simply curious.
The doctor related very vague

1390
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:17,200
related very vague details of
the boy, but nothing about the

1391
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:21,160
strange things he claimed.
The men in black seem to accept

1392
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,680
the answer as a stiff smile
arose on the one on the one's

1393
01:16:24,680 --> 01:16:29,400
face and they left in haste.
So other than that, I do have

1394
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:35,080
stories from Orchard Beach,
Maine, and another one from West

1395
01:16:35,080 --> 01:16:38,720
London, England, but I think
that we got the really good ones

1396
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,720
out of there, at least today.
Have you thought about making

1397
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,960
like a page on the website where
you just drop like all these?

1398
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,920
Like a maybe?
Like A blog of sorts.

1399
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,080
Like a like on the Patreon I
could do that.

1400
01:16:49,480 --> 01:16:51,200
We could do that on Patreon.
Yeah, that's a good idea.

1401
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:52,840
We can.
Definitely do it.

1402
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,720
Yeah.
So final thoughts.

1403
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,640
I don't know if did we do final
thoughts on the last Men in

1404
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:01,880
Black episode?
I don't think we did.

1405
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:03,560
I don't think so.
Let's do it now.

1406
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,080
Hefe.
Are you are are you sticking

1407
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:13,200
with?
What do you think the origins of

1408
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:14,680
them are?
Even if they're screen memories,

1409
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,240
what are they?
Well, I think if you're.

1410
01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:18,600
The chat, by the way, go ahead
and sound off of what you think

1411
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,600
they are and we'll we'll read
them off here.

1412
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:22,160
Go ahead.
What do I think?

1413
01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,800
The men in what?
What was the question?

1414
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:25,160
Ask me the question one more
time, man, I'm sorry.

1415
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,080
So you had you had come out with
the explanation that you

1416
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,920
believed that the men in black
could be screen memories, right?

1417
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,480
What are they screen memories
of?

1418
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,000
What are they hiding?
Anything really, I mean it, this

1419
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,360
could just be an advanced thing
that governments and

1420
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,040
corporations are doing just like
on a lower level, like I said

1421
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,360
earlier, right?
Like if, if you somehow stumble

1422
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,200
into like a classified building
somewhere, right, you see some

1423
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,440
shit you're not supposed to see.
I mean, you're not necessarily

1424
01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:57,160
going to disappear, right?
Like they're going to send some

1425
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,760
dudes in suits to come talk to
you and they're probably going

1426
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,520
to have you sign some paperwork
and like, you know, it never

1427
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:06,240
happened type of thing, right?
So, and that's been happening

1428
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:09,240
forever.
So maybe whatever is happening,

1429
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,200
even if it is like other
entities, whether from inner in

1430
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,840
the earth or outside the earth
coming here, you know, maybe

1431
01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:19,720
they've seen that and they're
like, OK, let's try to mimic

1432
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,320
this with these screen memories,
right?

1433
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:24,600
If we're going to come in here
and fuck around, like let's try

1434
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,240
to implant something that maybe
they'll recognize and which is

1435
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:32,400
why I was saying maybe they have
trouble mastering the human

1436
01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,760
thing, right, Whatever it is.
So they're, when they're

1437
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:39,680
implanting those screen memories
of the men in black in your

1438
01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:43,520
mind, something's off, right?
The skin tones a little off.

1439
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,920
The way they walk is weird.
The way they sound when they

1440
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,840
talk is weird.
Because it's not humans creating

1441
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,560
those screen memories.
They're creating screen memories

1442
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,520
of the thing that humans do,
which is send the FBI or the CIA

1443
01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:58,320
knocking at your door like it
what they're covering up.

1444
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:01,520
Who knows, right?
I mean, I couldn't even begin to

1445
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,080
speculate on what aliens or
interdimensionals would want

1446
01:19:05,480 --> 01:19:08,480
with us or want to do here.
I have no idea.

1447
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,920
That they want to milk our
nipples 100.

1448
01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,000
Percent, unless it's something
that.

1449
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,000
We're getting milked.
My favorite theory about that,

1450
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,320
not to get you sidetracked, is
just like that.

1451
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,120
We're somehow either an
experiment or they seated us

1452
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,560
here, or they were here at some
point in the past and now

1453
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,240
they're or they've always been
here or they're coming back to

1454
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,560
see what has happened in the
last million years.

1455
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,880
Like those types of things are
my favorite things to think

1456
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:36,520
stuff.
Yacoob.

1457
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:38,840
I don't think about any of that
stuff, ever.

1458
01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,080
Even when Jeff brings it up, I
still don't think about.

1459
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:42,720
It So what do you think of the
Men in Black?

1460
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,440
Sir, I mean, I'll be willing to
put some weight into it and say

1461
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:51,480
that they're that it's legit.
Not that there any sort of

1462
01:19:51,480 --> 01:19:56,640
special like robots or whatever
like Skeeter says Sears said.

1463
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,000
I'm still undecided.
Men and black are humanoids,

1464
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:02,280
human experimented on different
dimensional beings people from

1465
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:04,400
the future Skype psychic visions
or other.

1466
01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,440
I think that it's just a branch
of the government.

1467
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:14,040
It could be the CIA or the FBI.
There's like we discussed last

1468
01:20:14,040 --> 01:20:17,360
time 2 weeks ago when we were
talking about this, was that

1469
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:22,360
there's nothing more clean cut
and also gives the.

1470
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:27,520
Sense of an authority figure
than a plain black suit with a

1471
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,800
white shirt, black sunglasses,
hat, no hat, whatever, but a

1472
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,840
clean cut look, all that sort of
stuff.

1473
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:41,680
And generally speaking, a lot of
military agencies use that exact

1474
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,720
same thing as their sort of
uniform or attire, right?

1475
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:54,960
You know, and that would make
sense if, as in in the beginning

1476
01:20:54,960 --> 01:21:00,840
of all this crap, they're super
like, not OK with everyone kind

1477
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:02,680
of assuming everything's all
aliens.

1478
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:06,800
And UF OS it'd be interesting if
there was a way to see the

1479
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:11,640
number of sightings or reports
of the men in black and how,

1480
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,800
depending on the culture and
what was going on, whether there

1481
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:19,640
was an increase of that.
Thanks.

1482
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:25,240
Whether there's an increase of
that activity or a decrease,

1483
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,440
like everyone's talking about
UFOs now, they seem to be

1484
01:21:28,440 --> 01:21:30,920
wanting to blame everything on
the aliens.

1485
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,680
So I would imagine there'd be a
decrease of people having

1486
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,680
interactions with the Men in
Black or whatever.

1487
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,720
The alphabet soup agency
actually is what it stands for,

1488
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,680
whatever it is, versus like in
the 40s, fifties, sixties, 70s,

1489
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:50,800
where it was, you know, way more
like we're doing these

1490
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:53,080
advancements in technology.
We don't want people talking

1491
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,640
about it, you know, that sort of
thing.

1492
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,720
We don't want people to
investigate it and find out

1493
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,360
what's actually going on.
But now they're willing to be

1494
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,080
like, yeah, you know, the aliens
or whatever.

1495
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:09,280
It's probably a real group that
they're just, you know, they're

1496
01:22:09,280 --> 01:22:12,360
probably really hostile back in
the day and maybe not so much

1497
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:16,760
now or when people start kind of
getting close to everything.

1498
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:19,760
Like, I mean, some of these
folks, they're sitting there

1499
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:23,800
saying, like, you know, they had
a conversation with someone or

1500
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,760
they hadn't experienced, but,
you know, they didn't say

1501
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:28,120
anything.
And then the men in black are

1502
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,800
showing up telling him to stop,
you know, not to say anything

1503
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,000
about it.
Right.

1504
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:36,520
And we know today that our
phones hear everything we say.

1505
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:40,440
You know, our webcams can record
us even when they're not on or

1506
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:42,360
the the light isn't on, that
sort of stuff.

1507
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,000
You know, How long has that
technology been around?

1508
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:48,240
Yeah, where people are just
being constantly watched and

1509
01:22:48,240 --> 01:22:51,440
monitored all the freaking time.
I get it.

1510
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:54,720
You know, you get back into like
the 50s and 60s and it's like,

1511
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,560
yeah, well, you know, you got a
a Rotary phone on the wall type

1512
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:02,400
stuff.
But that's not to say that that,

1513
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:06,440
you know, high level technology,
the stuff that may or may not

1514
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:09,800
have gotten us to the moon
wasn't already around and they

1515
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:13,720
didn't have, you know, tabs on
people on incidents and things

1516
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:16,040
like that.
And especially if it was, you

1517
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:21,840
know, military or, you know,
black budget, you know,

1518
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,080
experiments going on in a
population, they would have tabs

1519
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,200
on everybody, you know, So maybe
it was like, we flew this craft

1520
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,480
over this house.
We're going to go to every

1521
01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:36,320
single, every single house in
this neighborhood and tell them,

1522
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:40,200
don't say anything about what
you just saw or we'll get you or

1523
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:42,120
whatever it is.
And maybe they come up to some

1524
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,800
of the neighbors.
And like 9:00 PM on a Friday,

1525
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,720
dude, I was asleep, you know,
type stuff.

1526
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,400
And maybe they come up on some
of the neighbors in, in the

1527
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:53,560
neighborhood that are just like,
how would they know that?

1528
01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,600
You know, I didn't tell anyone
that I saw that craft because

1529
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,920
they canvassed the entire area
and they run away because they

1530
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:04,200
got to get to 100 houses in
this, in this block, right.

1531
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:10,440
So it's like, it could be that,
you know, but I'm leaning more

1532
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:14,600
into the belief that, yeah, it's
it's a real organization with

1533
01:24:14,600 --> 01:24:19,520
real people, but with their
motive, who knows?

1534
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,960
Besides, it seems to shut people
up.

1535
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,960
And if they don't shut up, then
they disappear or they die,

1536
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,760
right?
My house broken into.

1537
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,120
My my personal opinion on the
men in black, I think my

1538
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:37,280
personal opinion with the men in
black goes hand in hand with the

1539
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,360
explanation of UFOs that I
discussed in the last recording

1540
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:44,440
of the men in black where the
their potential time travellers.

1541
01:24:44,440 --> 01:24:48,920
I mean, and that's kind of a a
fantasy answer for you to it's,

1542
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:50,920
it's what I want them to be be
honest with you.

1543
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,200
I think that would be a really,
really cool concept.

1544
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,160
Jake's probably right though.
They're probably just government

1545
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,600
entities, something from the
alphabet suit boys.

1546
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:05,320
But I in in the, in the land of
my wants, needs and desires.

1547
01:25:05,320 --> 01:25:10,520
I would like them to be from
from time and be time travellers

1548
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,640
to the guardians of time that
they fly around their little

1549
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:19,760
flying saucers and and stop
people from ruining the timeline

1550
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:22,240
so that we can all have babies
and stuff.

1551
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,720
My only problem with that is
that we see them and we talk

1552
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,680
about them, and just by that I
mean we are talking about them

1553
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,240
right now.
So we are.

1554
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,080
Going down the tulpa line.
I get, I don't know what that

1555
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,080
is, but we're fucking with the
timeline, right?

1556
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,960
Like that alone is fucking with
the timeline.

1557
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:41,200
Unless.
Unless this is how the

1558
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,000
timeline's supposed to be.
Because you got to.

1559
01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,880
Remember, we're, we're close,
we're close, We're close to the

1560
01:25:45,880 --> 01:25:47,720
disclosure.
It's coming, right?

1561
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,040
Right.
No, I don't believe so.

1562
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,080
You don't.
Think so.

1563
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,040
I think I think it's coming.
I think it's coming.

1564
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,600
I think what's coming, I think
what's coming is a is a, a

1565
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:01,360
disclosure, but not the
disclosure I think.

1566
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:04,280
It's coming as a fair.
A disclosure of a bunch of lies.

1567
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:08,400
Yeah, fake disclosure is coming.
Where every single question that

1568
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:12,720
has a little bit of little bit
of snazzy stuff or a cool answer

1569
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,800
is like, oh, we'll talk about
that in the closed session.

1570
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:16,680
Yeah, it's all going to be
closed sessions.

1571
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,560
It's all going to be unknowns.
It's all going to be potential

1572
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:23,160
threat to national security or
global security.

1573
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,640
It's going to be, you're going
to get the fucking bullshit

1574
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:27,320
answer, bro.
They're not going to ever tell

1575
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,000
us.
You know, the only way that

1576
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,960
you're ever going to find out
that like actual aliens exist is

1577
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:38,280
if like they show up in mass and
just make themselves known.

1578
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,560
And even then it's questionable,
right?

1579
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,440
When you talk about all these
conspiracies with 5G towers and

1580
01:26:43,440 --> 01:26:47,200
hologram technology and all this
type of shit and, and, you know,

1581
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:50,600
voice to skull technology, which
could be like video to skull

1582
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,200
technology.
Think about that right?

1583
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:53,080
Like.
Right.

1584
01:26:53,480 --> 01:27:00,440
Well, let's, let's take a quick
dive down the the news Isle of

1585
01:27:00,440 --> 01:27:03,480
the infinite rabbit hole real
quick because there's two big,

1586
01:27:03,480 --> 01:27:11,560
big news or two pieces of news
out there that are huge 1 is

1587
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,480
that it?
You know this, this could be

1588
01:27:13,480 --> 01:27:17,320
under the funny ears disclosure
that you were talking about,

1589
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:20,040
right?
Where the James Webb telescope

1590
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:24,920
has picked up on something that
seemed to have taken a 90° turn

1591
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:29,520
directly towards Earth.
Is that real?

1592
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,040
Yeah, that's a well.
Apparently, but I wasn't.

1593
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,040
I wasn't sure if that was just
some bullshit TikTok video.

1594
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,640
You know, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no.

1595
01:27:38,640 --> 01:27:43,120
I I saw that on Scientific
Weekly I believe it was.

1596
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,200
So, you know, that's the thing,
that's what I'm talking about,

1597
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:47,680
right?
Like, and this is the type of

1598
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,640
thing where there's certain
threats that none of us can

1599
01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,520
really like, prove.
We can't substantiate this at

1600
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:54,800
all.
So it's just like you have to

1601
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,600
trust, well, if they come out
tomorrow and they're like, hey

1602
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,760
man, that thing that turns
coming towards us like it'll be

1603
01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:04,680
here in 10 years and it's a
threat, I guess you're telling

1604
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,160
me the truth.
Yeah, I think it's interesting

1605
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,280
though.
Oh, actually, you know what?

1606
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:14,400
There's Yeah, the 11 other news,
piece of news.

1607
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,520
One other news is we've got some
news is here, guys.

1608
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:24,920
The other news is, is that we
have a very famous event that's

1609
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,640
making its way back into the
news.

1610
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,720
The Miami Mall thing, it's
coming back.

1611
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:34,360
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

1612
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:39,200
Apparently, apparently some guy
I don't like, I don't remember

1613
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:45,240
his name, but apparently they
said they called his name by

1614
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:51,240
name in Congress and announced
him as an enemy of the state.

1615
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,920
And this guy had gone online and
announced that he has video

1616
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:00,480
footage of the beings that were
in that mall and that he will

1617
01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:02,400
release them.
He just needs to find the right

1618
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:04,800
way to do it so that he doesn't
get fucking killed.

1619
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:09,480
Just put it on X right now.
You you don't think they can

1620
01:29:09,480 --> 01:29:12,200
find you when you post something
on X?

1621
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:15,040
No, I don't think that they'd
care at that point to kill.

1622
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:16,240
Him.
I think they would squash that

1623
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,080
shit right away.
No, because The thing is, if

1624
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:21,600
this is like the type of thing
that like Doctor Greer always

1625
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:22,480
talks about, right?
What?

1626
01:29:22,480 --> 01:29:23,280
Love him.
Or hate him.

1627
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,880
You know, there has to be a
protocol in order to come out

1628
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,040
with certain type of shit so you
don't get killed.

1629
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:31,240
And the people who try to come
out like secretively or like

1630
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,760
behind closed doors and through
some chant like that shit

1631
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:35,720
doesn't work bro.
Like you have to put that shit

1632
01:29:35,720 --> 01:29:38,080
out open sourced.
Like everybody has to know.

1633
01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,360
No, he's, he's got to go to
fucking Joe Rogan.

1634
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,600
He needs to go somewhere.
Joe Rogan or.

1635
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:47,200
Whatever, something he needs to
go live somewhere big and just

1636
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,360
put it out there.
Put it on X, you put it on X and

1637
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,320
it'll get shared by 20 million
people on.

1638
01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:56,760
X man, I don't think you're.
Safe that he's really famous but

1639
01:29:56,760 --> 01:30:01,920
he's the the UFO guy and all
those guys that went on the Sean

1640
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,920
Ryan show podcast and they were
talking about all that crazy

1641
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:06,760
stuff and they're all the
whistleblowers and they're going

1642
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:12,320
through this one guy in order to
get their.

1643
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,880
Stuff out there in Congress,
Yeah.

1644
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:17,120
Or are you talking about Doctor
Steven Greer?

1645
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,240
No, I think he's talking about
Bob Lazar.

1646
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:21,440
Not Bob Lazar.
I'm not talking about him.

1647
01:30:21,440 --> 01:30:26,040
No, I'm talking about it's like,
Oh my gosh, he's some like

1648
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,560
Russian Rogan.
He's been on Sean Ryan.

1649
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:35,480
He's like some freaking
researcher and he helps people

1650
01:30:35,480 --> 01:30:36,920
come out with this sort of
stuff.

1651
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:39,640
Steven Greer.
No, Steven Greer does it.

1652
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:42,400
Well, I mean Doctor Steven
people.

1653
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:45,440
That's his whole spin, his whole
steel spiel is that he gets

1654
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,160
these whistleblowers and these
people who apparently are in the

1655
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,160
know or were in the know at some
point and he gets them together.

1656
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,480
And every so often they have
these meetings in front of

1657
01:30:53,480 --> 01:30:55,080
Congress or.
How do you put out?

1658
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,520
Information.
You know, like.

1659
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:02,560
I think it's GRIER or the ER.
I think it's Greer.

1660
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,320
No, I'm looking at him, not him.
All right, while while you're

1661
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,160
doing that, let's go ahead and
read through some of the

1662
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:12,120
comments here, Skeeter says.
I'm still undecided if MIB are

1663
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,240
humanoids.
Oh, wait, you already said this,

1664
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:15,200
didn't you, Jake?
Yeah.

1665
01:31:15,480 --> 01:31:18,280
OK.
Where where did you leave off?

1666
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:20,360
Did we get everybody?
They're all arguing with each

1667
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,600
other about what the men in
black are looks like.

1668
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,840
Kenzer says, well, they have to
tell us the truth, right?

1669
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,040
So maybe it is exactly like they
showed in the movies.

1670
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:32,400
Maybe they're just here to keep
it all in touch.

1671
01:31:33,200 --> 01:31:35,800
Oh, George Knapp.
Jeremy.

1672
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:36,840
Korbel.
Yeah.

1673
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:41,480
Jeremy Korbel.
Yeah, Jeremy Korbel is he's a

1674
01:31:41,480 --> 01:31:48,600
big, big time whistleblower.
George Knapp, is he he.

1675
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:52,240
He's from the the Coast to Coast
AM family.

1676
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:55,280
Does he help whistleblowers come
out?

1677
01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:00,720
Yes and no.
I, I would say that there's been

1678
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:05,840
whistleblowers on coast to
Coast, but I, I, it's mostly for

1679
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,480
entertainment.
I don't know how how serious

1680
01:32:08,480 --> 01:32:11,160
you'd be taken if you went on
coast to Coast and tried to blow

1681
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,160
a whistle.
I don't.

1682
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:14,560
I don't think you'd be taking
that seriously.

1683
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:16,720
They got some, there's some
weirdos that go on there.

1684
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,640
So then.
Maybe it's Greer.

1685
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:22,040
Yeah, I think.
Was one of the authors in that

1686
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,200
Skinwalker Ranch book Could be
wrong?

1687
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,480
Let's see.
Yeah, he's going to have to.

1688
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:35,600
This individual would have, I
agree, throwing it up on Rogan.

1689
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,800
So it like literally at that
point, 30 million people see it

1690
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,760
all at the same time, and now
there's no point in killing the

1691
01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:46,080
guy because it's just going to
go massive, massively viral from

1692
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,360
there.
You have to come out loud and

1693
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:53,800
live so that that you can get
ahead of the alphabet soup boys

1694
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,000
and.
That's the problem.

1695
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:59,480
The thing, the fact if if it's
true that they like named this

1696
01:32:59,480 --> 01:33:02,360
man like an enemy of the state
and he's just like a regular

1697
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,160
dude who would have just
happened to have been in the

1698
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,480
mall and like, like, he's not
like a trained operative of any

1699
01:33:07,480 --> 01:33:09,000
kind.
Like they already got him, bro.

1700
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:11,560
Let's be realistic.
Oh yeah, They they know exactly

1701
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,920
where he is.
I mean it's.

1702
01:33:14,000 --> 01:33:16,520
Going to explode.
And they probably don't even

1703
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,040
have to get him right.
He again, he's not a trained

1704
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:20,720
operative.
They probably scrubbed his

1705
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,480
device remotely.
As soon as they knew that he had

1706
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:26,000
it, they were like, oh, just
fucking oh, it's gone, don't

1707
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:26,320
worry.
That's.

1708
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,600
Probably why we haven't seen it
yet.

1709
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,960
Or they put a little CP on his
device or something like that

1710
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,760
and he's going to go to prison
for that or some shit.

1711
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,040
Oh yeah.
Well, those, those two big

1712
01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,920
newses are, are making news.
You know, we got the the thing

1713
01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:44,720
that's coming to Earth could be
here and I don't know, I think

1714
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,120
it's like 10 light years away or
something like that.

1715
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:48,600
So.
It's 10 years, yeah.

1716
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,680
Ten, I think it's 10 light
years, man.

1717
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:54,400
So you're looking at hundreds if
not thousands of years still.

1718
01:33:54,560 --> 01:33:56,440
Depends on how fast it's moving.
Right.

1719
01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:59,840
And I, I don't think we're
catching it on the James Webb

1720
01:33:59,840 --> 01:34:02,000
telescope if it's moving at
lightspeed.

1721
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,880
We have somebody.
There was another comment I want

1722
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:07,360
to read off.
Well, that's the thing too,

1723
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:09,480
right?
If it's 10 light years away and

1724
01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:12,120
we just noticed it turning
recently, that means it turned

1725
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:13,840
10 years ago.
That's true.

1726
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,960
Yeah, it did.
That's true.

1727
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,640
So.
I we we need to cover the Fermi

1728
01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:22,200
paradox.
It it would be a fucking awesome

1729
01:34:22,200 --> 01:34:24,760
conversation.
I'm I'm, I'm going to dive into

1730
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,720
the Fermi paradox next.
You guys are going to love that.

1731
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:32,320
Rick Bear 459 says we don't even
get the truth from elected

1732
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,880
officials.
I saw that you pinned that, so I

1733
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:38,800
wanted to get that out.
Very true, very, very true.

1734
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:42,320
All right.
What do you think guys ready to

1735
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:43,720
call it?
It's a bedtime.

1736
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,400
Yeah, man.
Yeah, I think it was a good

1737
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:45,800
episode.
I.

1738
01:34:47,360 --> 01:34:49,760
Didn't really talk about the men
in black, but you know, whatever

1739
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:52,640
it is what it is.
I mean, what's there to talk

1740
01:34:52,640 --> 01:34:53,360
about?
No one knows.

1741
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:56,040
About one on that, they're
talking to us bro, what are you

1742
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,080
talking?
About Yeah, we got a Blues

1743
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,120
Brother right here.
Right here, man.

1744
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:00,960
Yeah.
It's not my fault that the Blues

1745
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,360
Brothers were created in order
to make the Men in Black look

1746
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:05,200
like jokes.
Yeah.

1747
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:10,320
New conspiracy unlocked.
Yep, yeah, The Blues Brothers,

1748
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,240
the original Men in Black.
All right, wow.

1749
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,440
That has been another episode of
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1750
01:35:14,440 --> 01:35:19,360
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1751
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:22,800
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1752
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1753
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:30,560
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1754
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:36,360
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1755
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:40,000
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1756
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,720
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1757
01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,360
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1758
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:50,520
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1759
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,800
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1760
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:54,720
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1761
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,480
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1762
01:35:59,480 --> 01:36:06,120
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1763
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,160
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1764
01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:11,080
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1765
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1769
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1781
01:37:00,200 --> 01:37:01,840
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01:37:08,040 --> 01:37:10,840
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we'll see you right here in the
next fork in the path of the

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Infinite Rabbit hole.
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