190. Psychedelics, Psychic Bigfoot, Mothman Anatomy, and Various Conspiracies w/ Nate & Thomas of the Reality Czars Podcast

0:02 Imagine that this line represents a time in the present 1985 Future Past prior to this point in time, somewhere in the. Past the timeline skewed into this tangent, creating an alternate 1985 alternate to You need an Einstein from reality for everyone else. Welcome back to the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. I'm your host Jeremy. Today we have two guests in the house. Before we get there, let's go ahead and bring in the other Co hosts for the night. Jake, let's start with you man.

0:46 How you doing? Doing all right, did a bunch of chores today, threw out my back a little bit. You know, that's about it. Right on. Hell yeah. Al Jeffrey What's? Up yo. All good? I'm here. Yeah, I'm good, man. I'm great. How are you? I'm. Good. You ready? I'm. I'm always ready, man. They they call me L ready Hefe. That's like what they call me. That's my name. I've I have heard people say that it's crazy to say that. I've never heard anybody say that. Well, you don't watch movies. You're right, I don't. All right, let's get to the guest today. They are the hosts of the Reality Czars podcast. We have Nate and Thomas in the house. Nate Thomas, what's up guys? How you guys doing?

1:28 Dude, fantastic. Thank you for having us on, man. Hell yeah, man. We are on best behavior tonight. Yeah, I'll try to be on my best behavior. Yeah, we're on platforms that I'm probably not allowed on, so I'll be good. I'm going to try to be good. And my wonderful Co host down there, Thomas the Paranoid motherfucking American. Can I say the F word? Is that a thing allowed on here? So you first and then ask. That's how it works. Curse is good man. You're you're good with that. Can we perform actual curses on a live stream? I don't know. What do you mean by? Probably I didn't see that in the TOS anywhere, so it didn't like, I don't know. Sacrifice a chicken and something bezel Bob or something, I don't know. Well, you, well, I don't want to make any assumptions here, but you know.

2:15 Wait, let me grab my tinfoil Yamaka and then we'll be good and I can do it. Here you go. All right, so let's start off just talking a little bit about the Reality Czar's podcast. How did this start? It started like in the middle of lockdown, like during the heat of it, during things that I don't know if we're allowed to talk about, you know, little stabbies and things like that. We were in Northwest Oregon, me and the original Co host Tony, and we were part of like a weird like agris community. So we're like, you know, like weirdos, radicals that like weren't going to get any pokes, weren't going to wear masks and we're going to do whatever the fuck we wanted to do.

2:59 So a lot of what's the best way to call it like black market anarchism. So if the store wasn't going to allow us in, then we were going to do what we wanted to do. Like we knew our farmers, we were, you know, buying, selling eggs, barters, anything under the under the table, no taxes. And we met, he was the only guy that volunteered to help me. So like my wife's aunt had a pig farm and I don't there's a long explanation. Maybe you were looking for a short one. But anyways, Long story short, we went up to Washington to meet some other radical weirdo anarchists up there. We taught like a pig slaughtering like class and had a breakdown the meat, not all the fun stuff. And on the way there, I had my teenager and like his buddies in the back.

3:41 They were going to help us. And we just had this fucking awesome conversation. And the kids were asking us about like wild stuff. We were, we were like teaching about like 911 and all the fun stuff. And we were like, dude, this could be a show. This would be a lot of fun. And so that's kind of how we started just like back in the day. And this is like stream yard, but we didn't even know how to use it. So we'd like use it over the phone and like the audio quality was shit. And there's some people that go back and listen to the the old stuff. If you're fucking hardcore, you can. We're talking about wild dumb shit. Then Thomas joined about probably like two years ago, huh buddy? Yeah, I think we were just doing chick track read throughs. Yeah and me and Thomas just clicked and had a fucking great time. And my Co host this time had moved to like new hey where the fuck does he live anyway?

4:26 Somewhere on the East Coast. And he was like his work schedule didn't kind of like mesh with mine. And so like I was kind of doing it solo. And then Thomas came right at the perfect time and I was like dude, you want to be a Co host because he had come on like 3 or 4 times. And so he kind of became a Co host without being a Co host. And then the rest is history. Thomas, I heard you do like 8 podcasts. I get around, yeah, I'm a little bit of a podcast slut. I I like it, though, because I can test the waters on other people's shows. And Nate has people on. I don't even know how the hell he gets into. Some people's sort of like caller IDs and whatever they're like, they won't answer me. They'll answer Nate. He'll pull some big names, but we can also just say what like Nate doesn't care like so we can just say whatever the hell we want on reality czars. So it's it's great to kind of figure out where the lines are. Like there's no line on that show, but you can figure out where your personal line is, which is like a really cool sandbox to play in.

5:26 I think that's kind of why I started doing this anyways, because I'll be invited on. We would get into some topics, but like I wanted to get a little bit deeper, but a lot of the topics that you get into and conspiracy and paranormal and stuff, even like religious topics, there's always like a certain line in the sand where you're like, whoa, whoa, we're on insert corporate, you know, platform name here. So anyways, yeah, reality czars is one of those places that that we ended up being able to do that into any capacity. Again, I started out reading some of the the more worse of the Jack T Chick tracks that I think even mentioning the names of some of them would get you taken off of some platforms.

6:07 That's also how we bonded because I was a hardcore chick track going in and out of church and stuff. They'd fill my pockets with chick tracks and they'd have me, like, handing them out and stuff. And so like, I was a big fan of that since, I mean, well, a fan in a weird way. And yeah, so me and Thomas definitely bonded over that. And so the rest is history, man. Anybody listening right now? If you guys haven't figured it out, there's no filter on these guys. Thomas can put on a corporate face. He he actually, he reels me in sometimes. Yeah, I'm, I'm very corporate friendly. If I need, if I need to be, I can. I can slip in and out of it like and take it on and off like it's a hat. I'm your like your retarded like drunk uncle that like can't be stopped, you know and it.

6:48 Works well, Thomas, you had said that that Nate has the hookups on some big names. I've seen that you guys had David Icahn. That's probably one of the the bigger ones. Yeah, absolutely. But also like I've just gotten introduced to so many other people through Nate directly. Charlie Robinson was another pretty big name that we had in here. We had Tony Merkel on a few times that helped me get connected with Joel Thomas. We've had cryptids of the corn on there. Oh yeah. Just just lots and lots of massive and, you know, in the podcast kind of worlds. And yeah. And I think it's just because Nate's so easy to talk to and he can just kind of like BS on any topic, even if he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

7:32 Like he can just BS on it anyways. He's he's a great conversationalist. He always, you know, he, he makes you feel. He cares about your pleasure. I do, yeah. I'm a giver, dude. He's a giver. He's a definite giver. Right on. Are you guys, are you guys deal with all media? You deal with Steve, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're, we're definitely, we're hardcore alt media united. Hell yeah, yeah, we're all on there as well, too. Yeah, there's, and there's a lot of people in that group too, man, A lot of big names. So yeah, you you get around that circle, you could definitely like meet some cool ass people that are in this like weird community, you know? We should work with that a bit more, Steve. Yeah.

8:16 Yeah, it's been a while, man. To be honest with you, I haven't talked to Mark in in. Fuck, man, it seems. Yeah, yeah. I haven't talked to him in, I don't know, a year probably. I feel like a Dick. But you know, his life, just his life, Life carries on and you just get sucked into other shit. But Mark, Mark, if you're listening, what up, bro? Miss you, dog. Mark's not listening. He's not listening. But if he is hey Marky. So Thomas, last time that we were on the realities are as you were talking about your your comic man, you were getting ready to release your NASA issue. That went well, man. That dropped last month. I've already gotten all the different copies shipped out and everything.

8:58 I sold out of all my little NASA fake moon danding playsets. That's what I'm trying to make more of and stuff. And it was. It was kind of cool too, because in that release I included a few of my conspiracy cards and then as soon as I got all the initial ones out, I listed the conspiracy cards on the site and they, they basically sold out overnight and I had to like get a whole bunch more printed. And then those ones are like 80% sold out again too. So maybe I just stop everything. I'll stop podcasting, I'll stop comics, I'll stop music, I'll just make more conspiracy cards that might end up being like the route forward now. So is that is that the the website you have there?

9:38 Is your name paranoid? american.com. American.com yeah, that's something that I've been running for since 2012 at least. The first comic I started working on was in 2006. And that was that was the thing that I started at Disney was Paranoid American. And that was kind of the the reason that I ended up leaving was because I wanted to just ended up doing a full time. That's awesome, dude. Yeah, I'm gonna have to snag a couple of these, man. The never straight answer that was the name of your your NASA. The the latest one that took about five years, it's a 40 page comic about Stanley Kubrick directing the moon landings. And I guess the the twist on it is that it's not necessarily like the the focus isn't about, OK, we're going to convince you that Stanley Kubrick did in fact direct the moon landings. That's just happening.

10:23 That's just de facto happening. And all the pages and the rest of the comic is just about things that happen while that's going on. It's almost like The Office where you never really see them sell paper. Maybe once in a while, like they're talking about selling paper, but even though like this entire show that's been offered multiple seasons about a paper company, but it's never about paper. It's just like the crazy antics of the people that work there. And that was sort of the premise of Never a straight answer, is it? What are these astronauts and the cameraman and like these random people doing? What about the CIA handler? How easy is it to handle Stanley Kubrick, this guy that's obviously a strong personality. So that's kind of where the the nugget started for. Never a Straight Answer.

11:07 Shit's awesome, dude. I love it. I love it. I'm have to snag that one. I see it's See. You got it. You got it on sale right now. For now, because I've got that one cover and as soon as I have to do a reprint, it'll go to the regular price. But I I try my best to make them as affordable as I can because I would rather have more people reading it than make like an extra dollar or two or something off of the book. Because I think that that's really where I want to get into is I want more and more normies reading these books too. I want to be incredibly accessible, kind of like a Jack T Chick thing where you're like, hey, why, Why are these people stuffing these comics in my pockets? And then you go home and you're like, oh, all of a sudden, you know, I've got a different religion than everyone else and, and Halloween's going to send you straight to hell. And why do I think that?

11:52 I don't even know. But these comics are so great, I'm going to keep reading them. Nice man, I brought up your your website here just to kind of show everybody. Yeah, that's the main cover right there. Oh yeah man, good shit. There's your conspiracy card pack. We got the pack, we got the Bohemian Grove play set because I said the the never straight answer 1 is sold out and I've been cooking on like 3 or 4 new ones. I'm going to have at least two or three Bigfoot play sets coming out soon, especially when me and Nate release the Bigfoot pamphlet. I've been working on an Illuminati one. I've got a Statue of Liberty one. I've got a Skull and Bones with George Bush naked in a casket as a playset. The obscene, right?

12:34 For anyone that cares about the fine details, how are you? Making that, how are you making those playsets? Like what is that? So I find like Lego compatible sort of figures and and stuff, they're called Mocs, make your own creation within the Lego realm. But I just find the right ones that fit perfectly in in these little blister packs. And yeah, I mean, I'll like over the last weekend, I was just searching for all the the new Marvel mini fig figures coming out and like, all right, I'll take the head off of that one and we'll take the hat off of that one and the body off that one and just kind of mix and match them. I'm always on the look. And every once in a while I'll see something like, Oh my God, I can make a Bigfoot Elvis if I get these two pieces.

13:17 So that's one of the things that might be coming is I might have some Bigfoot Elvis packs coming. I also found some Abraham Lincoln's, so I might have like an Abraham Lincoln assassination playset. I definitely am doing for Christmas. I hope I can get it done time. But Santa drinking pee, it's just like him passed out next to a reindeer and a bunch of mushrooms. But it's all it's like Santa is a mushroom or I don't know what I'm going to call it. Yeah, but I already know what the theme is. This is amazing dude. This is this is genius, bro, Because honestly, some of these man, like, you know, I'm thinking about buying these and just never opening them and just seeing what happens in like 20 years, right? Like these could be something. Right. Oh, these, this would be bigger than Bitcoin. You'll get rich off of these within like a year even. Yeah, you don't have to wait.

14:01 Some of these dude. The other cool thing too about those playsets is like I just did Ocala Comic Con recently and which is a fairly big comic convention. I think like 8 to 10,000 people went through and you would see people go by and the kids are like attracted to the little toys. Oh daddy, daddy, I want this one. And like the dad. Oh yeah. What do you got over here? And then you. Just. See, like either like sheer look of terror because they picked up the Hillary Clinton super predator playset. It's got like a pepper head rotating with green light coming out of it. And either they'll be like, Oh no, put that down and like just whisk them away or you'll get like a smirk and like, Oh my God, is this for real?

14:42 And I don't know, I just, I love the intersection. Yeah, this is the one right here. Because when I have it on the table, that little head that's on the table there, there's actually a, a light that lights it up and illuminates. And like, there's some green ones and red ones and stuff, but it's a showstopper. Like people walk by, you can't help but turn your head and look at this. And now all of a sudden there's 8 year olds that are like, mommy, daddy, what's a dream? Something, something. And I just think that's the coolest. That's awesome. What's a dream to Chrome? Yeah, right. It's one of those words you can't say on Twitch. Whoops. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

15:23 Allegedly. Depends on the context. If you stop yourself and you say that's not real, no one actually believes that. It's a science fiction thing. Moving on. Yeah, they mentioned, they mentioned in the Boys TV show and that's what we're talking about now. Allegedly. Allegedly. I'm looking at looking at your stuff. You got tons of episodes already man. How often do you guys post? Not enough for the amount, not enough for the amount that we actually record. Dude I am so fucking backed up. I'm months. I have months and months of content, which kind of sucks. I just did, I work so much I don't have time. But yeah, we I tried to put out three episodes a week. I put out, we started a new like started out like a news fucking a news network.

16:10 We call it schizo news network. And we try to talk about all the weird fucking wild shit you haven't heard about. And it's pretty spicy, dude. Like, so anybody listening to this, like if you think anything I said has been offensive so far, We get really hard in that we have like a yeah, it's nuts, dude. It's like Faces of Death and like Lenny Bruce, if Lenny Bruce was writing his comedy in 2024. We're we're definitely covering like pedo gate stuff. We're talking about champion. We're talking about like. This is also one of the the trading card packs all have a sticker and that's one of the stickers that gets random and certainly in some of the packs. Dude, I've got so much space back here, I got to get some shit off your side.

16:57 Birds aren't you got some Birds aren't Real stuff. Yeah, I got a Birds aren't real members. Yeah, we got. Birds aren't real, dude. My my goal is this is sort of be the Walmart for conspiracy themed entertainment. So toys and comics and all the things. I kind of I kind of want to be the one stop shop like if if you want to be offended or if you want to offend somebody else conspiracy related. Like I got it all. I even got like a new X-rated section. Office chick dude. Do I need an office? I mean, yeah, yeah, always. Not me, not me, I know. Yeah, right. You'll go. He'll show skin. Dude, don't worry about. It. We'll talk bro, we'll talk about it. All right, so let's let's get into, let's get into some more of the the podcast stuff. Let's go, Nate.

17:43 Yeah, brother. What, what, what are your favorite topics? Let's start there. What do you like talking about? Well, I started like talking about like politics. That was like the big thing that I was really into. And then you kind of realize it's just all fake manufactured. And so you can talk about that. But like, then I started really getting into some of the Cryptid stuff. I, I went full retard for a minute because I had been kind of normal. And then like, you know, when you first kind of get conspiracy pilled, you kind of jump down every single rabbit hole. And I was like pretty sure that about like Tartaria, that every mountain used to be a fucking dead giant and all kinds of weird shit, you know? So like I've I've done all the fucking weird rabbit holes, but the ones that I always go back to are definitely Bigfoot and definitely the elites for sure.

18:30 Allegedly. Allegedly that's what they said in that Boys episode at least. You're right. Exactly. Yeah, I'm with that man. I've definitely been like so far down all the rabbit holes that like I've been on the craziest end of every spectrum. You know, it's still a conspiracy game. Yeah. I mean, some days, some days I'm like, the Earth is flat, right? I've argued to the death with dudes that like the Earth is definitely flat, right? Proper model to not like these next. Days like, not like, right? It's thrown. Right. Yeah. And then the next day I'm like, Nah, man. Like I'm totally in on like secret space program breakaway civilizations shit. And then then you know, the next day, like, like Gravity's fake, like you said, I don't know anymore at this point. I just, when they this whole thing like with AI and nobody's going to know anything, the deep fakes and everything's just going to be so hard to understand. It's like, bro, I'm already there dude. I've been there for like 10 years, man. So bring it on.

19:27 Let the deep fakes come with all the weird shit that nobody can understand and parse through what's real or not because it's like welcome to my world. Hell yeah, dude. And as soon as it gets good enough, we're going to have like AOC doing anal and it's going to be great. Like there's going to be some fantastic. They've already. Passed. Laws. There's already there's laws being passed. Where did I just see this? Like California? Probably, yeah. One of these places where like if you know these deep fake celebrity or or public figures and deep fakes like you could be prosecuted for posting that or creating. That I'm pretty sure our intros and outros are illegal in California. They are felonies at this point in California. Dude, your intros are sick. I need one. I need one.

20:08 I haven't heard the outro yet, but the intros are sick. I've heard a couple of them. It's that gospel one that you were talking about. Dude just dropped. We promoted it today, I think was the first official use of that. Was it the gospel one? Yeah, it's been. That one is definitely a felony. Full felony. I'll have to check that out as I was looking for it. I've I heard a couple of them, duplicates of a couple of them. I'm like, man, this camp. Yeah, I thought there was a Gospel 1. So I'm happy to hear it just wasn't out yet. So have you ever seen something crazy man, Like talk about Bigfoot, anything like that? You ever seen a dead body? Yeah, I've seen too many of them. A. Few. Wait, so you. Guys want to see one right now.

20:50 Yes, let's go. Check this out. No, I'm just going to. As far as Bigfoot goes, man, I have had a telepathic communication with one, which kind of sounds gay and retarded, but that was we did our first Bigfoot documentary called The Search for Psychic Sasquatch. And so me and a couple friends and my son actually got to come, which was a lot of fun. And we went looking for Bigfoot out here in the Pacific Northwest, like N northwestern Oregon out here looking for him. And we all had a very similar like telepathic communication. Every single one of us. We kind of felt the same thing. He was kind of, he was telling us to fuck off is what he was doing because we were getting near this one area and we were having like, it was, it was a mask. It was a male talking to us.

21:39 And he was kind of saying like my family's down there. And that was kind of like the feeling we got, like if we were going to continue going down this area, he was maybe going to fuck us up. And so we we didn't go down that area. Yeah. I don't know. I have never laid eyes on him. And I'm not 100% sure that he's ever going to let me. It's one of those weird things. I mean, we were actually just talking with Chris Matthew today about a little bit of this Bigfoot stuff and whether or not he is some sort of interdimensional creature or if he is just like maybe some weird kind of hominid that is kind of more advanced, at least like telepathically and psychically. And can kind of like like we've had a lot of listeners on and one of them sent me some photos of like, it looks like almost the outline of a Bigfoot, but it's glimmery, right? Where they can kind of, they can kind of make themselves invisible.

22:31 They can blend into their situations. I don't know, dude, it's an interesting thing. I hope I get lucky. I hope Bigfoot's going to let me see him because we're planning on doing some more filming actually pretty soon. We've had some credible, well as credible as you can take it, sightings out here and pretty recently actually in my neck of the woods. So I think we're going to try to go out there, meet a few friends. You guys ever tried to reach out to somebody like Ron Morehead to see if he can talk, come on and talk about that kind of stuff? He's he's got. Two wild. Books he's got quantum Bigfoot and voices in the wilderness. Those two books are are incredible when you're talking about the quantum Bigfoot or the the the mind speak Bigfoot. But then if you want another guest, reach out to Carter Bush hard.

23:16 He has these three books right here. They're evidence of an enigma. 1-2 and three. And he does I believe he's out of Missouri. I believe, forgive me, Carter, if you're listening, either Missouri or Arkansas, one of those two. And he does all the the mind speak stuff with with with the big feats and he has some really, really interesting stories. His books are just, they're all about his investigations into the mind speak Bigfoot and he he talks about certain, certain cases that he deals with and some of the cases show up in all three books and he he's more than willing to openly talk about all of them. That's awesome, man. Yeah.

23:56 I mean, after the show we should talk about it. You should give me his e-mail address or something. Yeah, I'd love to talk to him. Yeah, you know, he's great, Great stuff. Oh. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. So I mean, those are kind of mostly the topics we talked about. But what fun about our show is that we don't ever just talk about one different thing. It doesn't get boring. We have like tonight, we actually had some folks on that we're talking about like abduction experiences that they've had. And then it's simultaneously like we were talking with Chris earlier today and we were talking about like, I don't believe in aliens. I think it's bullshit. But like, dude, honestly, after having this conversation, they kind of fucking open my mind. I still keep an open mind after all this shit, which is a little fun.

24:37 Thomas reels me back in because he is our skeptic. You'll tell me. Respectful skeptic sometimes. So. So no, no crazy experience or experiences for you, huh Thomas? Not really, I mean psychedelic related, pretty much every one of them. And when I was a little kid I lost the stuffed animal that I swear was there. But that's pretty much as far as it goes. Although I have had some really interesting psychedelic experiences, not even through me, but what like this is I guess where I kind of pushed me over because I was raised Roman Catholic, which is basically the best way to raise an atheist child. So by the time I was done with Catholicism atheist, but then I get into psychedelics and then that kind of whips me into maybe agnosticism slash regular old Gnosticism where it's like, OK, well, maybe I don't know, maybe there is something that's like undefinable here. And it was in particular Salvia de Vinerum this before it was illegal in all the different states. And I just remember seeing this thing and how it affected everyone I knew because, I mean, as soon as I found it, I had to share it with everyone I knew.

25:49 But, but the similarity in some of the experiences and like the very specific things that people would hear, see, feel and, and just go through and then come back and tell me this from vastly different walks of life. I mean, I'm, I'm talking all over the, the gamut. I mean, I even when I was at Disney, I was like, Hey, you ever tried this obvious stuff in and even them right with like no prep, no sort of biasing, like they hadn't seen the YouTube videos or any of that. So anyways, that in particular was like entities and this lady Salvia where people would report like I saw a lady like specifically there's a lady there and she's either telling me like, I can't come in this door or yeah, like come in this door or whatever. And it was just so wild that over 2 decades of introducing complete strangers to this and hearing these exact same descriptions over and over again. Like I don't know how else to to understand that through any other lens.

26:47 I've looked down all the skeptic rabbit holes and all the research I know about what they call our form constants. You look up form constants on wiki or something like this is where people repeat seeing fractals or spider web patterns or honeycomb patterns and it can be explained based on the arrangement of cones in your eye and how the brain is created. But nothing describes seeing like a consistent little entities and seeing a woman and hearing a woman. And the fact that Salvia is also named, I think Pastora, which is like the Lady shepherdess or something, and that they also call her Lady Salvia. Because even people from before America was founded also we're having these exact same experiences with like a lady talking to them.

27:32 So I mean, smoke this plant. You hear a lady talk to you and introduce you to entities. I feel like I can't be an atheist after going through that and seeing other people go through it so many times. So I don't know if that counts as alien experience or ghost or whatever. That's the absolute closest that I've been. Thomas I just need to know though one through 10 how fuckable is Lady Salvia? Does she have some sweet tits and a fat turd? I. Don't think anyone's like seen her face outright dude. Like like in in my experience, it's always been like a lady in the shadows almost wearing like a veil or like a cloak or something. So yeah, I never heard of this with salvia before, but I'm guessing it's the same concept as like the machine elves for DMT and stuff, right?

28:15 Where everyone that ends up taking it ends up seeing these things. Similar, although I haven't had that same experience whatsoever even myself or talking to other people. Like some people have reported these little machine elves and stuff, but it also feels like they they're already familiar with Terence Mckennas work. They've heard about the DMD machine elves and stuff, this salvia stuff. Like someone be like, I've never even heard this, what would I've like? They haven't heard of salvia, They've never seen a video on it. It's such a niche little thing and not only are the entities there, but this lady and like what she does and the whole like get, there's a gatekeeping aspect where the entities are there and they're basically telling you, you either like, hey, come with us, you're ready, or they'll tell you, oh, you're not like this.

28:56 What the hell is this guy doing here? That's actually one of the more common themes that started to blow my mind way early on. This is when I was in high school. I was like 16 or something, maybe maybe even not that 'cause I remember I found Salvi before I could even drive. So like 1516. This is like the mid 90s, right? And and I'm giving it to all my friends and we're and it just was labeled incense. It's all set on the bottle. Like we even know what the hell it was. I had to like search online to figure out what the hell this stuff was and it's linked to CIA, MK Ultra and stuff. But I'm doing this and people are explaining like I did it, but I was in this room and like there was people laughing at me and they were like criticizing me and telling me that my whole life was a lie and like, this isn't fun. Why did you give me this?

29:38 You know, But that experience, it's so, it's so crazy that there was always this form of gate peeping. You would go into like this purgatory and then the entities, whatever they whatever was the lady or these like little cartoony looking things and they would tell you like you're not ready, you are ready, come with us, don't come with us. It's it was a very binary thing and some people would like they finally accepted me. They get all like excited and stuff and they passed this test. And again, dude, this is something that would constantly happen over and over with different people reporting the same like checkpoint. Like they like they were playing Mortal Kombat or something. And after the 5th time they finally figured out how to kill Goro or whatever. Like that was almost how it felt was with some of these. It's interesting because I've I've had a similar experience to that.

30:26 I mean I've I've done salvia multiple times, DMT multiple times, but the first time doing DMT I actually had a similar experience to what you're talking about with this. Like I I encountered in the what I would call the void, right? Maybe it was deep space, but there was no stars was just the void. So purgatory I guess right? And it was a female entity. I couldn't see it, but I could sense like a female energy that was there and it was almost comforting me in a way while I just existed in that space for literally all the time. Like I watched time go from before it existed till after it existed and then waking up like just being mind fucked that it was only 12 minutes. But it was similar to what you're talking.

31:06 Like I didn't see machine elves and I've never seen machine elves. But I have encountered like female energies on DMT that usually comfort me. You know? It's usually a pretty pleasant experience, but. That's crazy, man. That's it it. There's a lot of parallels here with near death experiences. I mean, we've talked about this a lot on the show and I think a lot of people talk about this all the time. For me personally, I think that psychedelics is more of like a lifting of a veil. You're opening something to where entities and other dimensions, if you will, maybe they are demonic, right? Maybe they are whatever they are, I don't know. But you when you're doing psychedelics, I do believe that you are unfiltering your brain to an extent where you can you can receive signals from other places.

31:52 Right. Well, I think it's almost like an amplifier for like an antenna, which are like real things, right. If you went and put an antenna out to get some signal, but then you can like boost it with energy, right. And that's, I mean, it's kind of what's happening at a biochemical level too, that when you do a psychedelic, usually what it's doing is it's, it almost has like these re uptake inhibiting qualities too, Especially we're talking about DMT and Mao is and all that stuff to like get the perfect blend. But what it does is it forces all these extra sort of like a neurotransmitters to be constantly in your system. And normally it wouldn't travel too far because your body uses it up. It's like, oh, there's a sweet neuro, you know, neurotransmitter there.

32:36 Let me go ahead and suck that up and make use of it. But when you're on a lot of these psychedelic drugs, your system's flooded with it. So now all of a sudden they're they're moving around, they're going farther than they normally would because it's your entire system saturated in it is what causes like the synesthesia where people will be like, I can smell The Color Purple, man. Like all these things. It's because the neurotransmitters are literally like jumping over the normal boundaries. So you are literally smelling purple because there's so much going on that it's a flood. And if you're in that sort of a state where your body is just being incredibly receptive to everything, like everything's on full blast. I mean, yeah. I mean, maybe you're you're kind of like amping the antenna and you can pick up some extra signals. It's about as far as I'll walk into the woo woo on that. Yeah, it to me honestly man, what you're talking about right there.

33:25 And I've experienced this right first hand multiple times. Like to me, that's what like David Ike going back to that, that's what he's usually talking about, or that's what I gather from it. He's talking about like the holographic universe and things like that is like there is some information field that we're able to tune into and probably not so much now, right? Because we're, we're just fucking consuming all kinds of bullshit. And who knows what other kind of frequencies are hitting us with. But you know, the natural us, you know, going back ancestral us was probably able to tune into some of these frequencies, especially doing some of these psychedelics, eating mushrooms and shit like that, right? And they were able to communicate or whatever the fuck pickups. Catch your breath long enough from running away from Saber toothed tigers and starvation maybe.

34:08 Yeah, sure. I mean, I mean, yeah, I don't know. I I do like Terence Mckenna's idea. I don't know if it's his idea, but he talks about like the stoned ape theory a lot, you know, us evolving, eating mushrooms off the ground and just that having an influence on our our consciousness and our brain forming and that kind of thing over the course of however long it might be, right. Like I love that shit. You know, there's an idea too. I'm sure you guys have heard this too, like the idea that the spores are like the the intelligence or like somehow bringing the intelligence. Like if you were some super intelligence, how would you seed your intelligence into the universe? Would you send ships or would you send spores? Right. So is this awesome?

34:49 Just like you know. Was the the Paul Stamets mycelium theory? I don't know if that's his, but he definitely has made it popular. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. Jeff. What? For like second episode of the new year I'm doing stone date theory. I've got Terence Mckenna's Food of the Gods here. I'm going to eat mushrooms for that one. That's fine. I'll you guys should get a chimp and feed the chimp mushrooms for that episode. If that's and then interview them, we'll. See if he grows in consciousness. Call Peter and see if they're OK with them. Yeah, that would be the cool. That would have to be like a video episode for sure. But if that were a series, I would watch 100% of those episodes.

35:38 Somebody's doing that somewhere. There's a laboratory somewhere, right? It's. On the black net, probably it's. Feeding. Chimps mushrooms and not the dark net, I mean the black net. Oh, oh, such a thing, huh? No. OK. He doesn't shut up, Jeremy. Shut up, Jeremy. All right. Either you guys got questions? No. Not that I'll answer. Not that you'll answer. I won't answer questions. No, I don't. I don't answer questions. I'm I'm travelling, I'm not driving. All right, let's I got a little bit of news for you guys. I can't I don't have the source with me right now, but apparently we need to see you guys are going to love this the the the web telescope, right the the new telescope that they have out there apparently found signs of life on a planet. It sounds like Maloney.

36:29 Life that we would recognize. Yes. Wait, on which planet? I don't. I don't know. I don't know. I just breezed over it at some point today, the James Webb Telescope. I'll see if I can bring it up. Telescope finds life. Man, See, here's the thing, Robin fucking harping on issue for years, man. Like this whole, I don't know if you want to like lump it in with Project Bluebeam, but I guess it is because to me that's just like an umbrella term for fake. You know, an alien something, right? Fake extraterrestrial threat, right? Doesn't have to be holograms in the sky or anything like that. It just has to be. I think originally too was Jesus that was one of the like pre a predecessor to Bluebeam. Was it Mongoose?

37:14 I don't think maybe it wasn't Mongoose, but there was something that the CIA was trying to stage in Cuba for Castro where they were going to shoot a bunch of fireworks in the sky and they thought they could convince all of the religious bumpkins that the fireworks were Jesus and this was the second coming. And, and I think that that was like some of like the rudimentary kind of play school versions of, of blue beams. So it's usually about it's something like global thing that's supposed to unite the world, whether it's an external threat, the second coming, an apocalypse, whatever. Yeah, exactly. I think they're trying to make something that's going to be everything to everybody. It's one of those sketchy weird things, dude. And it's one of those things too, where I think it's like connected to like the Lucius Trust that's connected to the UN them like doing the grand invocation that they do every year trying to bring about what they call the cosmic Christ. And I think it's very well connected to things like I was just reading an article on my stupid show Schizo news Network where they were talking about all these different UFOs that are supposedly visible right now. And and this is like having dissemination from like the CIA, ex CIA agents and all this fucking Department of Defense. And I think they are trying to fucking get us to think that there is something bigger, scarier, because that's every comic book ever, right?

38:34 That's like Ender's Game. That's like the one with the with the blue Jesus with the dot on his head. I can't remember the name of that one where they're going to fake an alien invasion or I guess an Ender's Game. There was an alien invasion and that was the only way that they could unite the entire Earth. All of a sudden you can get like everyone to kind of come together, right? And yeah, I'm very fucking skeptical of there being any life anywhere else. I don't know, dude. It's it's interesting. And if so, if there is that visible, whatever that life is, is it fuckable? I think that's the most important thing that we have to ask. But yeah, dude, I don't know. I'm very fucking skeptical because it seems like maybe that was Plan Z, right? Like they like to do that sort of thing, right? With like the voice to skull technology. That was one of the first things they did to the folks in Guantanamo Bay where they were sitting there and talking to them like, hey, this is Allah and I want you to tell them everything, you know, right?

39:27 Where they try to, they try to, they try to play that. So I think they're going to try to be anything to everybody, right? So I don't know, dude. It's, it's bizarre. It's weird. And I I'm 100. Percent with you, man, anytime anything comes up that becomes like global news, like obviously the this global health crisis that we went through and this, you know, before that it was like this, this global terrorism threat and like these type of things. Global warming. Global warming, like climate change, like all of these things, they immediately throw red flags up for me because like any of us know when when you read what they write because they put this shit out there telling you like, hey, we need some form of crisis in order to enact whatever it is our great reset or our little occult fucking. Whatever it is.

40:16 You know, so when I see this shit, it freaks me out a little bit because it's like, Oh yeah, you found some life out there, right? I'm waiting for like the Starship Troopers or like the hell divers like narrative to hit right. I I was just talking to this. Was I talking to this tomorrow war? Yeah, we were talking about this last week. I'm like, man, hell divers came out at the perfect time. I don't know if you guys played that game, but it had that star Starship Troopers ask, like overly sarcastic, like we got to save democracy, right? And that came out at the same time that like all the politicians were like, oh, democracy is under threat, right? So it was like perfect timing. So like here James Webb, James Webb telescope finds life on fucking Mars.

40:59 Whatever. I'm like, oh, OK, so you're telling me that basically bugs are going to hit us soon or whatever the case, right? The only good bug is a dead bug. Right. And I did have seen a lot of news. In fact, last week, Jeremy, you were talking about like an asteroid or a second moon or some bullshit. Like, you know, I see this all the time, man. Pop shoot. That should be visible tonight. Tonight, it's supposed to be the night. Two months, everybody. I think that's The thing is they know that nothing else is really going to get us fired up, right? Like we're all so numb with the pace of in which crazy shit's happening, right? Like World War 3 is happening every fucking day so. I think if anything, we're more tame now than we used to be.

41:41 Like I've got a knock like a like a strong interest in looking up the history of Mormonism because it's uniquely American. There's not a lot of religions that you can say like up. Well, that's specific to America. Pretty much. There's a handful of them, but Mormons, the OG Mormons, they took like the doomsday prophecy stuff and let the world's ending and world wars are going to be fought and like all this stuff. But they, they wouldn't be vague or say like, oh, in our lifetime or, you know, and in our kids lifetime, they'd be like next April, next April, all this is happening and then wouldn't happen. And it'll be like, well, that's because we prayed it away. But now it's happening next April. I'm like, but it's so fascinating to see in like, I guess pre Internet and pre like unions and, and pre like national communication lines that the doomsday cults were way more specific and they were way more like, it's in two weeks from now, you know, like it was, it was always like in the matter of the moment.

42:40 And now it feels like the same thing. But now everyone's kind of like, oh crap, you know, someone's going to find this post where I said the world's going to end in April. If it doesn't end in April, then I'm kind of screwed. So like, they might push it out like a couple years or anything, but it's, it's nowhere near how much it used to be. It's the same way that if you go and read old newspaper articles from America in the 19 tens 1920s, nineteen 30s, like every other freaking article is Malik this. And we found Sumerian, you know, ancient like communities here and like underground lizard, you know, reptilian cities found in California. And like, if anything, our great grandparents were way more occult. They were way more in tune about talking about entities from other planets and stuff like that was way more the norm than it is now.

43:29 Now it's almost like everyone's acting like they just found some secret, like, oh, you know, Mike, my great grandparents would never know about this stuff. Like, actually, they probably knew way more. They probably still you want Sumerians. Now you can only find it in the tabloid section, in the news, in the in the grocery store. It's not mainstream news anymore. Everything's but it. Definitely started that way. Yeah, everything's so diluted too. I mean all the the miss, I mean, hate using the term misinformation because that term's so fucking overused. But you know, it is true, right? That all, especially in the conspiracy world, it's like, good luck. And, and it's funny because I can actually spot like a, let's say like a new conspiracy theorist from a mile away because they'll say some shit.

44:09 And I'm like, OK, you piece together like three or four of those theories that I used to watch videos on back when YouTube was the Wild West, you know? And it's like, I see what you're doing here, right? It's this whole new thing. It's just weird to me. The whole thing is fucking a shit show. It's it's funny that we started off talking about your, your NASA edition for your comic, right, Because exactly what Jeff's talking about when I, whenever I get contacted first by like a conspiracy theorist or someone who claims to just be getting into the top of the first thing they want to say first thing. Did you hear that the moon, moon landing was fake? And it's like, no, man, tell me about it. Oh, that's.

44:49 Cute. You believe there's a moon? I don't like that one. What moon? I think our 100th episode, I think it was we did a whole space is fake debate and. Which wasn't even really a debate, it was more like a three or four on one fucking pile, no? It was. It was. Wrecked by the way too, just for. The he he did, he did, it was, it was a one-on-one and, and we were just, you know, kind of stocking the fire. That's what you're doing, the peanut gallery. Yeah, but yeah, I can't like the the amount of people who listen to that episode specifically and then will message me and say, Oh yeah, space is fake because they faked the moon landing.

45:32 It's like. You missed the plot dude. I've heard the opposite to that too, which is one of the my favorite conversations that I've had. Shout out to my my homie Maverick from Maverick approach. But I do this thing like with 10 questions or maybe it's more than that, but I'll like just like rapid fire and ask people their opinions on stuff. And I was asking him one time and basically he didn't believe that the moon landing was real and he didn't believe that space was real, but he does believe that we could land on the moon. And I was like, how like, how did those answers work out? But in fact, it was one of the more like a logically cohesive explanations that I've heard before. And that's the space isn't real, It's all localized is the local sun, local moon theory, right?

46:24 That says that the sun's like 3000 miles away and the the moon's even closer than that. So he was explaining, well, if that's the case, then the moon's actually way closer than NASA says it is. So it would actually be way easier to get to the moon, especially if it was localized within our sort of, you know, little atmosphere ionosphere. So kudos to that concept because it's the exact opposite, right? It's like instead of thinking, well space is fake because the moon landings were fake, this is like no space is fake but moon landings could be real. It's not the one that happened back in it. Just it just wouldn't be in the moon, in space. Well, I don't know, like even that one, right? Even the 1969 Apollo mission that that they yeah, that they put on TV, even that could potentially have been a real landing just on a localized moon in this in this theory, right, That was the truth that.

47:17 Landed on the set. Or might be a real moon, it just happens to be a local moon. Yeah, in the local moon, in the hangar in Arizona. I'm a big fan of of like blending the two theories really. You know, I like to think that we are in some kind of like localized system, but maybe it is, I don't know, I, it's, it's got to be some blend of the two. There has to be some realm, some version of space that exists, right? Obviously, I don't think that the information that we're getting told about this realm is correct, right? Like the numbers, the distances, the, all of the things. There's got to be something in there that's fudged, right?

47:58 So to me, space is fake is as simple as that, right? You just fudge one thing, right? You fudge gravity, right? What is gravity? How does it function? You fudge that boom space as we know it is fake, right? It's a whole different realm up there. And it it operates in a different way than what we're told. And they're doing other things up there than what we're told. I'd say I I believe the official narrative about space as much as I believe the official narrative about JFK assassination. Right. There's got to be a good reason why they're while they're holding on to that, there's got to be some really incriminating shit. Oh, do you ever heard that the moon killed JFK? No, please tell. Not I just made that up on the spot. Of the Chronicle. Save it Thomas My favorite version of the JFK assassination is the one with who was the fucking president of Haiti. Thomas That was the that's.

48:49 Papa doc Papa doc Duvet. They summoned evil voodoo spirits on JFK because JFK cancelled support of Haiti. He took full credit. He he was like, no, the IA 100%. I was the. One, I did it. Yeah. I think I've got two favorite. Well, I've got 3 favorites. My my number one favorite is the JFK reached total enlightenment and his head just exploded because his brain couldn't encapsulate this divine knowledge that was bestowed upon him in that moment. The other one is that Jackie killed him, which is just a fun one to to talk about. And then the the third one, which I almost feel could be legit, like I, I don't know, I don't know where I'm at on it, but he was accidentally shot by a Secret Service guy. It was totally unintentional.

49:37 He was like running, had his finger on the trigger, had his safety off, was like, oh, crap. And then they had to like wrap this whole narrative around this Keystone cop sort of like 3 stooges situation that they found themselves in one. Now this part I, I think this is factual. Let me just state it like it's fact, but maybe it's not. But I also heard that JFK at that point was on so many different like drugs for syphilis that he basically had what you would call like a syphilitic brain where you start going crazy just because of untreated STD's, which kind of checks out for the whole Kennedy family line, right? But that he he was almost was in like this zombified state anyways, so that they were kind of king kill ritualing him because he was on a decline and they didn't want to see him decline any further. And even the limousine that they had him take out that day either was a modified one that had the top down or he or they put the top down.

50:35 But all of that was completely irregular. Like all those things lining up were totally irregular. So it was almost like the Trump thing right where it's like, how come no one's paying attention to the roof? How come you got all these like, how come like the the day shift is guarding you today? How come we didn't get like the the sweet stripper night? Shift was recording the gunman the entire time, but no Secret Service. You can see him, Yeah. 30 people that are like, there's a guy up there. The cops are just like. A lot of. Dude. Ref yeah, I get I get asked all the time why I don't cover the the moon landing. And it's that in Bigfoot, like why don't, why don't we ever do a deep dive into Bigfoot to prove that it's real? And it's like, man, I just, I want to, I don't have the money. It's just beneath us.

51:29 It's beneath. Us. I know I don't. I don't see a purpose in doing it. I don't see a purpose in doing the moon. You got to catch Bigfoot, dude. If you ever want to prove anything, you got to catch them. There's no other whether there's no no number of podcasts on the planet would convince someone until you actually capture them. I, I don't need to convince anybody about that man. Like I, I think we talked about it when we were on your show, but I saw a Bigfoot when I was nine years old. I I don't need to convince. Myself, right, right. But but to other people, like they got to see it too, right? They got to feel it. Yeah, I mean, I get it. I just don't see. I just don't see a reason for. Listen, we just got to get the funding, a little bit of funding. It's not hard to do, you know. I know. Some milk. Come on guys, pony up. We can do it for 20 bucks experience and we'll blow a freaking hole through his chest and we'll take him for a second. I ran into, what's his name?

52:17 Dan. Dan Sheely. Don Sheely. Yeah, why didn't you get him on the show yet? I don't know, just haven't because he sucks. Fascinate about everything. Means nothing to me if you don't get along for Crash. But yeah, I ran into him over here fucking Wawa in Florida just. So let's say we catch Bigfoot. Does it instantly become like bestiality if we have like ladies fucking like, or do we have like, do we have a new website? It's kind of like dog fart or you know what I mean? Like you just have all these white women to just mount a Bigfoot. Like is that cool? Or is he considered a different species? Foot fart? I don't know man. How fetish? The level of Thomas and I have like, well, Thomas and I have definitely looked into the Bigfoot erotica, dude, and it is, it's hot right now, bro. But sure, it is so much.

53:09 Yeah, if we could actually get a Bigfoot and then we could actually kind of pimp him out, we'd make a ton of money. Speaking of Cryptid erotica, apparently Mothman erotica is is nuts. What does mop Man's Dong look like though? Whatever a mop's Tong looks like, it doesn't sound appealing. It probably does the same thing as like their nose does where it curls up and then it just, you know, unwinds. Or is that the man part? Oh, maybe it's the man part. Maybe he's all moth except for except for the man part he's got. He's got man knees, man thighs, man Dick. The furry communities loving this. Everything else Moth loves loves lights. I, I actually came across, this is going to sound so wild. I came across this article a while ago about a guy that works for the government and he works for like some department of invasive species, right?

54:11 And there's certain types of moths that are invasive versus others that look similar. And in order to determine whether or not the the moths that are in an area are in fact the invasive species, you have to dissect a moth penis in order to like figure out exactly which of these species are. So there is literally a job in the government that someone's profession is dissecting moth penises. What does that pay? I'm looking it up. Probably more than you make, man. Well, what do you do? What is the title I I googled moth penis dissector. Yeah, that's probably about right, man. I'm a moth penis dissector by profession Reddit. Thank you Reddit man nerd.

54:56 That's a good. One, the guy was like, it was like Glass Lake Refuge or something, grass Grassy refuge. But that was he had like a whole blog on all the different penis that he had dissected moth penises that he'd cut open. So if anyone knows this, that dude probably knows what a Mothman penis would look like you. Got to get him on the show dude. We do like man. There's a mystery to be solved, dear Sir. Good stuff. All right, let's see, let's let's send it over to the chat really quick. Let's see if they have any questions while we're talking about the next thing. So anybody in the chat, if you got questions, type it up and we'll we'll send them out until then. What do you guys got coming up?

55:47 Anything good? Yeah, dude, we got some fun stuff coming up. Well, we have, we have David coming back on in November, but we also have some pretty interesting ones coming up. Let's see, we got JT for JC. He's a pretty awesome guy. We're going to talk to and we're going to talk to Thomas, who's the guy that we're talking to next weekend that you're not. I don't know if we should talk about it. You're not friends. But I might not be in. Well, yeah, I I don't know if I'm even going to go to that one. It'll probably not be as helpful as it as it could be. All right. Well, we're going to get into some like eschatology. We're going to get in Masonic goober. Yeah, yeah. So we're going to get into some like like N world eschatology, we're going to get into some like Christian Zionism, all kinds of wild shit. That's going to be a fun one, dude. We got all kinds of fun stuff coming up. I've got a couple people that I have to. I think we're talking to the fittest flat Earther too. He's a fucking fun guy.

56:41 Yeah, we got some fun ones coming up the. Fittest flat earther. Yeah, go check about it. It's it's fucking awesome. So I reached out to David Icke months ago and I think it was his son that sent a reply to me and he basically like set up like, hey man, so when, where, how long, that kind of stuff. So I, I replied, never got a reply back. So good on you. How, how we're? Trying to talk about. How? Yeah, I, I do. We got to talk. About how you got that, let me e-mail him as well. We'll just, we'll blast. I'll put him in the e-mail blast room. Yeah. Yeah, we'll just fire him out, dude. Just spam. Dude, I'll hit him with some some calls from India, like dude, we'll fucking there. I'm selling them a car warranty and all that. Dude, he's coming on.

57:30 All right, well, doesn't look like we have any questions from the chat. We only have nine people in here right now. We're we we're doing this an hour later than we normally do. So got a lot of sleepy heads out there. I'm sorry. Man, I appreciate that we had we had already had another one lined up and so I had to move in an hour. You're good, man. You're good. This is fun. All right, Where can they find you guys? Let's go. Let's do that real quick. Well, I always tell people they can send me their hate mail, love mail, They can even send me their Dick pics, especially if it's Sasquatch Dick pic. I actually did. I shouldn't say send me your Dick pic. Don't actually send me your Dick pic. We're we're, we're on tinfoil hat. I said send me your Dick pic.

58:13 And then probably less than a dozen people, I think actually sent me a Dick pic. So honestly, if you do get a Sasquatch Dick pic, please send it to me. That's great. So you can all hit me up at realityczars@gmail.com. I promise you that I'll read your message. I am pretty good at getting back to people. I used to promise that I'd get back to you. I'm 99%. I promise that I'll answer an e-mail that you send me. Do you rate, did you like? 20, do you rate, yeah, did you rate, did you like, did you have anyone that move? Up like nice curve bro. Oh, to the left.

58:53 All right, Yeah. Dog leg left. To the right. Wow, that's abnormal. Nice. Good job. We probably could set that up like, I don't know, one of these days if I get AI keep saying that I'm going to start a Patreon and then I never do. But yeah, if you want me to rate your Dick pic, I guess I can. So you gonna have to pay me my. Wife says I'll send you my puppy's Dick pic. There we go. There you go. Yeah, Red Rocket. Thomas, where can I find you, bud? I mean, the best place is pretty much always going to be paranoid american.com because I think that I got some control over that one. So even if I get taken down off the other platforms, that's always my home base. And then the Bigfoot comic that Nate and I have been working on is that does bigfootexist.com and I got a whole list of other ones lined up behind that.

59:45 There's Illuminati comic.com that I'm working on with Donut about the Bavarian Illuminati. I've got one called Titanic comic.com, Satanic Panic comic.com. A whole bunch of other comic dot coms of these pamphlets are going to be coming out. So that's kind of what my focus has been on these little mini pamphlets. I also signed a deal recently with conspired TV, which is like a little smartphone or like a like a smart TV app, kind of like a Hulu and they specialize in doing conspiracy and paranormal documentaries. So I've also, I just wrapped it up the the rough cut today of a documentary that I've been working on on memory palaces. I don't know if you guys know anything about memory palaces. Like one of the coolest topics freaking ever, no. Shit, we might have to have you back on for that. Just talk about that.

1:00:36 It's, it's one of the coolest things because you can teach someone this memory device in 5 minutes and I can teach you guys something and you'll remember it for years. It's like, it's like such a very easy and powerful way of transforming your mind. I'm, it's crazy. They don't teach it in schools, but I mean they don't really teach anything except for they purposely. Don't teach that in schools. Can't have people with that that kind of power, man. Oh, it's, it's under the the umbrella of rhetoric and they don't teach rhetoric at all to the the normies because it's so much more potent if you don't know what the hell you're up against. Right on man. Yeah, we're definitely going to have you have you back on for that.

1:01:19 That's that's an interesting shit. We we cover a lot of psych stuff here, like we covered split brain and and a few other really cool things. I got some Deja vu stuff coming up and you know, near death experiences. There's a, there's a handful of other things too that I've I've covered and I, I love that shit, Absolutely love it. So. Probably going to be working on a whole series of them. I'm calling it mind games for now, and every one of them is going to be about something different, but it's like a mental sort of thing. Like the second episode I'm working on now is on a combination of neuro linguistic programming and also something called natural language processing and how these two different things are converging right now with AI in like crazy ways.

1:02:04 And most people, if you say NLP, you're lucky if they've even heard of one of those types. No shit. You got a, you got a target date. Actually the first one on Memory Palaces should be out this week. I don't have an exact date or time yet, but if you if you just search, if you go to conspired.tv, that's basically like this Hulu style website and it'll just pop up right there. It'll pop up on on that screen. Sweet, I'll I'll watch your X account too. Yeah, I'm sure I'll, I'll start blasting out once it's it's released. And yeah, hopefully if they do well, because I would love to do like a full season of these things, like maybe 12 different 20 to 30 minute episodes. But we'll we'll see how the first three do first. Hell yeah, man, Good stuff.

1:02:51 Before we let you guys go, got to give a shout out to a neutral listener that we have. Long time listener to the Infinite rabbit hole, Danny. Danny, dude, yeah, he's all over the place. He's got the best in the game. Dude, he's Danny's awesome. We need to get Danny on the show. We have. We keep talking about that. I'm going to reach out to him tomorrow and be like, yo, man, just come on, come on the show. Yeah, we got to have a chat. But yeah, Danny's Danny's phenomenal, man. He, he, he does a world's worth of work when it comes to acts and stuff, just pushing the shows and, and everything and. Let's just fly everybody out down here to Florida, bro. We'll just kick it, Yeah, Yeah, dude. We'll do it for Danny.

1:03:34 Do it for Danny bro. I'm down. Hell yeah. I'll make T-shirts do it for Danny. Really. Hell. Yeah, I love it. But all right. Anybody have any final thoughts? Last words? Happy New Year. Fucking Jeff, what a Dick. Thanks for coming out guys. I appreciate it. Thanks for joining. US. Hell yeah, Absolutely, man. Yeah, man. All right, well, that has been another episode of the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. We'll see you right here, the next fork in the path of the Infinite Rabbit Hole. Bye everybody. Bye, bye guys, have to say bye. Bye, guys. There it is. Hey everybody, thanks for checking out the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast.

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