201. The Murphysboro / Big Muddy Monster Part 1

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today.

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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole.

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I'm your host Jeremy, and today
we're going to change up the

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schedule a little bit.
We are not doing La Eurona

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tonight.
We are going to jump into part

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one of our coverage on the
Murfreesboro Monster.

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We did the Falk Monster sometime
in the summer this year and it

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got really good reviews.
A lot of people really liked the

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whole Bigfoot urban legend
stories, so we're going to do it

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again.
We have two parts total for this

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one and it's going to be a good
one.

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Murfreesboro Monster is a
classic.

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You guys will learn that here
soon.

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If you don't already know about
it, and if you do, well, then

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you already know.
It's kind of a class.

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ahead and bring in the host.
Jake took a pretty cool trip

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yesterday, man.
We did.

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We did.
Do you want to you want to tell

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everybody what we did?
Nope.

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Can't say who we visited but.
So Jeremy and I went to Elmwood

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where we did UFO Days to have
lunch at a restaurant and speak

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to a individual there about
getting an interview with him.

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And while we were there, we ran
into or didn't really run into

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them.
I hit up Amy, the president of

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UFO Days, and let her know that
we were in, let her know that we

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were in town.
So she and Dawn, what is Don's

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role in there besides being a?
Treasurer.

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OK, screaming at the kids to
pick up all the garbage.

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So they, she or they both came
over and hung out for a little

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bit.
And Jeremy, I guess, well, he's

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writing a book for the whole
thing.

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So he ended up as, as the turn
of events happened this, the

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city treasurer or treasurer, the
city historian just happened to

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be there at the exact same time
that we were leaving.

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So they were checking out my
motorcycle because I rode that

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for like the last ride of the
season before I put it to bed

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and pull the battery and all
that sort of stuff.

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It's gonna start getting colder
and start snowing and I'm a fair

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weather rider.
Say what you want, I don't care.

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I've crashed and I don't want to
do it again.

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So I, yeah, they were checking
out the bike because I have a

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pretty sick custom paint job on
it.

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And just as we're kind of like
saying our goodbyes, the

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historian for the city shows up.
And I guess we didn't see

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because we were manning the
booth, but she had a whole

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Elmwood set up or UFO Day set up
in the Historical Society

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building where it was all the
newspaper articles and all like

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the, the interview that they did
on the Geraldo show and all that

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stuff was playing in the
background.

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So they said that she had like
300 people kind of stop in for

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like an hour because they're
watching these interviews,

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things like that and reading
everything.

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So Jeremy got hooked up with her
to see about getting like the

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history of Elmwood and all that
sort of stuff.

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And I should I say like the no
how the talent's positioned or

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anything like that.
OK, so.

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Thanks man, sorry.
Yeah, yeah, there's there's some

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stuff that it's going to be
inside the book because we don't

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want to throw everything out
there, but it was really cool.

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It was cool.
And I think we scored the

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interview that we were looking
for.

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The individual was was pretty
seemed to be a lot better about

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it and like saying, yeah, like
he'll he'll do it and stuff.

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And also he has a a property
that apparently has a lot of

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Bigfoot activities.
So we asked if we could camp out

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on it and stuff and, and kind of
see what's up with that.

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So we're going to end up
following up with that really

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soon.
So that was that was pretty

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cool.
Yeah, I'd say we, we hit that up

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in the springtime.
Yeah.

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Go go big feet in under the
UFOs.

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Not bad for just showing up on a
whim.

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We didn't let anyone know we
were coming out until we just

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kind of showed up there.
So that was that was pretty

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cool.
I didn't expect it to be so

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profitable.
Profitable, right?

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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And then and then that's it.
And here I am sitting on the the

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show today and I'm drinking some
Glenn Leavitt 14 year old Scotch

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and I got a New Belgium Voodoo
Ranger Juicy Haze IPA as a

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backup.
Nice, that's all I got.

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Yeah, I forgot to say what I was
drinking.

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I'm drinking Polliner
Oktoberfest BIA.

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There we go.
Tonight, and I actually just

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finished it, so I'd never even
grabbed a backup, so I'll have

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to squeeze over there a little
bit later.

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I have fat squirrel from new
Garrus.

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Love it.
Good stuff.

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That's going to be my backup
tonight.

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Oh, oh hefe.
Oh hefe, oh hefe.

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What up bro?
What's up dude?

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Chilling man.
You guys like the new setup?

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I do, it's all.
I don't.

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It's galactic ugly.
Damn bro.

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All right, we.
Gotta send everything back.

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Gotta send everything back.
Crystal, you hear that?

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Yeah, Crystal does not approve.
I'm hanging out.

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I'm chilling.
I got a Kroger seltzer water, 0

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calories, strawberry lemonade.
Looking for that sponsorship.

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You know what I mean?
And as I said at the beginning

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of the stream, we are now down
to two.

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I have not eaten any
crystallized one.

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That's it.
Going.

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To answer to answer Danny's
question in the chat, yes, we

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did upload a few episodes to
Spotify.

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Those were streamed on Twitch
over the last couple of weeks on

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Tuesdays, my friend.
Tuesdays on Twitch you can find

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Shadow Band, usually 8 ish.
8:00-ish.

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OK, you know how it is over in
Shadow Band.

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We're just firing from the hip,
so 8:00-ish.

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Skeeter don't don't don't suck
up to Jeff.

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Background is garbage and he
needs to do better.

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Thanks Skeet bro.
I appreciate that man.

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Yeah.
Yeah, he's he's Jeff is, I mean,

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look at look at Jeremy's
background.

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Jeremy's background is nice.
Look at it.

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My background isn't that nice.
So there's a lot of money up on

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this wall.
Jeff has just got like shadow

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band podcasts and a light
machine.

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He's he's lame.
It's too clean.

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Yeah, make a few more.
He needs like a butter that

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thing up.
Listen, I'm I just put this

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together at 6:00 PM, OK,
starting.

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Six years about your excuses,
Jeff.

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Second of all, I'm just, I
already know that this space

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here, I'm, I need something
here, probably some more light.

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I think I'm gonna get one of
those standing light bars or

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something to go here.
So just bear with me.

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And I have Project Blue Beam
technology in my fucking studio,

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bro.
Get wrecked, OK?

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Yeah, well, you know what?
You're trash.

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So yeah.
It is what it is, Jeff.

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You got a good beard, though.
You got that going for you.

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I do not have a good beard.
I'm getting you.

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Got a good beard?
But you're getting Gray and

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it's, it's Gray and thinning.
I'm old now.

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Yeah.
But it's tame.

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Look at mine.
I'm like, get out.

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It's like a fro on my chin.
I'm about to go on a carnivore

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diet and start working out at
4:30 in the morning here, so

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we'll see how this take a
screenshot of this.

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Jeff's going to have to.
Wrap this so dangerous not even

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have a neck.
See if the Gray changes from the

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carnivore diet.
Nice.

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Probably not.
It'd probably get worse.

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If I like got my got my backup
beer.

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Fat squirrel.
Bam, look how fat that squirrel

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is.
Look at how fat he is.

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Dang, Yep, you should be that
fast girl for next Halloween.

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That squirrel.
You'll be skinny.

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You'll be a skinny squirrel.
Maybe I will be still, still

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only at loss of £75 this year,
but only. 75 lbs, ladies and

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gentlemen, that he's lost in a
year only.

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Yeah, yeah, you're a piece of
carp.

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You're a piece of garbage.
You need to do better.

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You need to lose 100 lbs.
There's what it is.

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I don't think I'm gonna be able
to make it by the end of year,

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but sorry, I started gaining all
the weight since I started

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working out.
But all right, anything else

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that you guys want to put out?
I voted.

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I got the sticker right here in
my hat.

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Oh yeah, look at that.
You did.

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As well.
I don't put a sticker on myself

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though because I'm not a
freaking dweeb, but I did vote.

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Yeah, well, at least I have a
cool background, unlike you.

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Danny, I'll send you my Danny
commented asking for some, some

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tips on on the weight loss.
I'll, I'll send you a message.

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I had.
I have a plan that the VA helped

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me get hooked up with and it
it's a, it's a, it's a pretty

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sweet plan.
It's it's a.

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Less food, more activity.
And amphetamines.

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Amphetamines yes, but I'll I'll
I'll comment you on on Twitter

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or X or whatever it's called
here probably by the end of the

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night just.
He no longer drinks here, he

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butt chugs it so he doesn't have
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This is.
Going in my face, it's not

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medical advice, for the record.
Yeah, he's over there butt

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chugging beers.
You guys ready to jump into

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Murfreesboro Monster?
Let's do it.

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You left it there, didn't you?
You're such an asshole.

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You better read it.
No.

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Wow, you scumbag.
All right, the back story, the

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Murfreesboro Monster AKA the Big
Muddy Monster is a Bigfoot type

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crypted urban legend that stands
as one of the most convincing

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and believable among other
similar critters such as Momo of

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Missouri, the Falk Monster of
Arkansas, the Honey Island Swamp

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Monster of Louisiana, the
Lorelei of North Carolina, the

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Grass Man of Ohio, the Beast of
Whitehall in New York, the

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Mongolon Monster of Arizona and
the Dewey Lake Monster of

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Michigan, just to name a few.
The prime year for sightings and

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encounters of Big Muddy then
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thing was in 1973 where
according to Jim Jung in his

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book Weird Egypt, a case for
supernatural geology, a trucker

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near the intersection of
Illinois highways 149 and three

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witnessed an 8 foot tall bipedal
something standing in the

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cornfield.
This particular sighting, which

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would be repeated multiple times
throughout the upcoming decades

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amongst many others, left most
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the year when the monster made
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limelight of urban legend
mythology.

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Although this may not have been
completely true, the year of

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1973 was most definitely the
year with the highest frequency

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of sightings and run insurance
with something strange in the

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area.
But truth be told, there are

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stories of this creature or
another like it going back to

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before the 1950's.
The problem with those stories

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is they lack any real detail
other than some vague

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descriptions of something
stalking the area and having

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brief run insurance with the
locals in various newspaper

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articles from the time.
But why is it that the legend of

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Big Muddy peaked in the year of
1973?

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The most common belief is that
the flood that plagued the area

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in the months prior forced
something out of its normal home

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and shelter, possibly from the
many caves and caverns of the

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nearby Shawnee National Forest,
to wander the counties of

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southern Illinois.
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people that are familiar with
the stories surrounding the

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famed Murfreesboro Monster would
be right to believe that the

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origin of the Beast of the Big
Muddy started in 1973.

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Although we will dive into
encounter stories with some

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actual information in them from
much earlier than that.

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The question will be, were they
the famed Monster of

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Murfreesboro?
Well, you'll have to decide for

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yourself when we get there, but
to touch base on the time frame

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before the 70s, the Thing made
headlines in an October 1942

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edition of the Murfreesboro
Daily Independent when a

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statement was published as a
warning to the children of the

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area.
Quote.

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The Thing reportedly remains
abroad, and for that reason,

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children are advised to remain
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accompanied by their parents.
The paper even went as far as to

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recommend that the local fox
hunting club release their

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hounds so that they could track
down the Thing's location and

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capture it alive.
On October 15th of 1949, the

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Harrisburg Daily Register ran an
article announcing the reward of

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$100 to anyone that could
capture the creature causing

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issues in the area.
The reward was posted by Harry

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Greenberg, who owned a
metalworks company on the

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outskirts of Murfreesboro.
Greenberg was having issues

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almost nightly with his workers
near the railroad that were

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reporting everything and
anything as the identity of a

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nuisance animal, preventing them
from doing their work out of

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fear for themselves.
The only precarious issue was

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that each of his workers
reported a different description

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of the mysterious animal.
One man said it was a huge wolf

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with a large bushy tail, another
claimed it was a squirrel, and

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the last one swore it was a bear
and claimed to have seen it walk

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on two legs across the tracks
before falling back down to four

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legs and running off into the
woods.

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Unfortunately, no one ever
claimed $100 reward.

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According to authors Chad Lewis,
Noah Voss, and Kevin Lee Nelson,

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the earliest physical
description of the Murfreesboro

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monster had described the
creature at quote 8 feet high

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and weighing about 400 lbs and
left huge 8 inch long V shaped

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tracks with a 19 inch bipedal
stride.

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From this description an 8 inch
foot for a creature standing on

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two legs at over 8 feet tall
doesn't seem like a reality, but

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reports would repeatedly be
submitted of the creature in the

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8 to 10 foot range thrusting the
beast soon to be known as the

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Murfreesboro Monster AKA the
Beasts of the Big Muddy or the

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Big Muddy Monster into the
history books of cryptozoology

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as one of the more believed
local legends in history.

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As animals both wild and
domestic began to show up

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mutilated, decapitated and
eviscerated all over

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Murfreesboro and the surrounding
area, the description of the

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monster would eventually evolve
into that of an all white or

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light Gray.
Some even claimed to be albino

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Bigfoot creature with reports of
its height ranging from its

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standing 7 to 10 feet tall with
a horrible stench, glowing red

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eyes and a scream that echoed
the forest of the area with a

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bad attitude.
In September of 2014, author and

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researcher Kevin Lee Nelson was
in Murfreesboro to talk with the

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local population and do some on
site research into a legend of

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the Murfreesboro Monster.
He was pleased to find that even

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those that were too young or not
even born at the time of the big

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flaps in the 70s and 80s still
knew of and were willing to

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share their stories that they
either had themselves or passed

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down to them by friends and
family.

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Nelson also was ecstatic to find
that when he entered the

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Murfreesboro Police Department
and asked if they had any

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information on the monster, the
officer behind the desk was more

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than happy to lend him the
folder that they had on the

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creature.
Nelson was impressed and shocked

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to walk into the department's
conference room to be greeted by

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a large brown folder with
letters over 3 inches thick and

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large black marker stating quote
Big Muddy Monster 1973

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emblazoned on the front of it.
All right, Jake, you suck, just

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so you know.
You're such a It's all true.

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The whole thing, it's true.
No, I, Skeeter says.

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Definitely not seeing you guys.
Yes, I did see you guys because

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I have two screens.
I have one right here and I have

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this one over here, and all I
see is that the thing zooming in

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and out on Jake's face and I'm
like, well, I skipped a little

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bit there because I couldn't pay
attention.

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Thanks, Jake.
Last time, last time I I was

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doing that, you were like, I
can't see you because I

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maximized my whole screen, so I
didn't think I was messing you

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up.
I won't do it anymore.

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I'm sorry.
Well, that's before I had I I

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was doing all my reading off
that screen.

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I was doing my reading off this
screen at that time.

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So I just covered up you guys.
I'm sorry.

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Yeah, I didn't know.
Stop yelling.

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That's.
Why you stick the protocol OK?

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Why are you switching screens?
Yeah.

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Whatever, you're a real piece of
poop.

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Whatever, man.
All right, we guys think about

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the Big Muddy.
Definitely Bigfoot.

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Definitely, I like all the
different names.

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That's pretty dope.
Yeah.

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So the name Big Muddy comes from
the Big Muddy River which which

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borders the town of Murfreesboro
and he is frequently spotted or

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it is frequently spotted around
or in Big Muddy.

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I mean or bear.
Or bare maybe?

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Just based on the size, what do
you say?

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10 feet?
Is that what you said?

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Eight to 10 feet is the average
reporting size.

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Definitely.
Not a bear.

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So well, The thing is about
those sightings, right?

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We've talked about this before
is like, you know, if you're out

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in the woods, right?
And like, especially if you get

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startled by something, you know,
maybe it's only 7.

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So startled it might be 10 feet
in your memory when you go

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recall it, right?
Yeah, yeah.

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So was that the South Park
episode with the The Giant?

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With the giant Guinea pigs.
I'm so startled.

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To make fun of Cloverfield.
Yeah.

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Yes, I've seen Cloverfield.
I love Cloverfield.

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It's.
Crazy.

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I like Cloverfield.
I thought that was a good movie.

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I'm I'm upset that they never
released that other movie that

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they were supposed to do from
the point of view of the other

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guy with the camera on the
bridge.

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Yeah.
I don't know.

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I haven't seen Cloverfield.
No.

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No, no, no Sir.
It's probably better than Star

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Trek Wars.
Probably not any recent stuff

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besides just the 70s and 80s.
Oh, yeah, yeah, we'll get into

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that.
There's it's, there's so much of

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it.
It's pretty crazy that we don't

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have any biological evidence of
this thing, to be honest with

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you.
This is this is probably, you

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know what, when it comes down to
the local urban legends of

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Bigfoot creatures, this is one
of the ones that have stuck

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around for the longest and
continues to have the most

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sightings out of everything.
I mean, the Beast of beast of

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Whitehall from New York is up
there as well, but that's more

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of a Whitehall, NY is a resort
town where they have, you know,

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ski resorts and it surrounds a
Big Lake or pond.

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I can't remember what exactly it
qualifies as, but it's more

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regional thing where I mean the
Murfreesboro Monster is regional

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too.
We'll get into the area of

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southern Illinois known as
Little Egypt here in a little

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bit and I'll explain that whole
naming.

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I believe it's in the very next
bit, but the, the, the amount of

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sightings in little Egypt is in
incredible.

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It's just I, I, I feel like
there should be more, there

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should be more evidence of this
thing being around then then

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there is.
And I would love to go down

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there and check it out.
Seems like a really interesting

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place.
OK.

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Just just for the just to kind
of throw it out there, something

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that just kind of occurred to
me.

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Why is it that?
Is it because it moved to the

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area?
Like why?

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Why is it that we always have
things like this where the

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report started in like the 50s,
sixties, seventies, 80s,

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nineties, 2000s, whatever,
right?

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But it's just like if it's an an
actual animal that lives in this

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area, then the reports would
have started a long time ago

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unless it just moved into the
area.

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Well, the Midwest, especially
that portion of the Midwest is

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very, very popular for a lot of
Bigfoot sightings.

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This is not very far from Momo,
the Missouri monster, which we

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will eventually get into at some
point.

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But you also have to think of
the time frame of reporting,

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when is technology good enough
to be able to properly record

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these sightings and be able to
not just record them, but have

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the the know how to preserve
that reporting in a way that

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could be referenced in the in
2024.

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So you have to think of that
too.

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That's I, I think that's a big
bit as to why a lot of the times

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it'll start in the 50s, sixties
and 70s.

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But one thing I was not able to
do was, was attach any Native

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American stories to this.
Not saying that there isn't any,

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because I am.
I am a week shy of of finishing

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all of my research on this.
So I I did have a couple sources

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that I wanted to look at when it
came to tying in Native American

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mythology to this or their own
lore, but I unfortunately was

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not able to.
Maybe I'll be able to squeeze it

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in and get in for next week's
episode, we'll see.

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But yeah, I I think that's,
that's most likely going to be

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your answer is you got to think
about the the technology used in

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order to preserve these kind of
sightings and and stories.

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I wasn't necessarily asking
because it's something I was

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curious about, but I know that
we like to try to play as many

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angles as we can.
So I imagine that that would, if

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that question just kind of came
up my head that I could answer

452
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,520
for myself.
But someone might be asking that

453
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,560
question and not have an answer
to it.

454
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,880
Yeah, no.
It's good to agree.

455
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,320
Get those answers out or get
those questions out for sure.

456
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,520
Yeah.
Anything else?

457
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:53,520
Cool.
No, all good.

458
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,160
Ready to move on.
I think this next section is

459
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,880
pretty, pretty small.
Let's go.

460
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,560
Oh wait, no it's not.
Never mind, it's 50 pages.

461
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,040
All right, let's see here.
Geography and the paranormal.

462
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,320
The Murfreesboro Monster seems
to be on track to remain one of

463
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,800
the most beloved and feared
cryptozoological urban legends

464
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,320
in all of American history.
But there is one thing to keep

465
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,560
in mind when debating on its
legitimacy.

466
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,600
Actually, there's a handful of
them.

467
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,520
The Murfreesboro Monster was
accompanied by many other urban

468
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,880
legend creatures and animals in
a 2 hour radius around the

469
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,640
monster stomping grounds.
There are at least 12 separate

470
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,360
urban legend monsters that have
called this area home.

471
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,920
Creatures such as the Alton Area
Weirdness and the Hamel Tiger

472
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,960
beginning in in 1933.
The Mount Vernon Monster of 1941

473
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:47,160
and 1949.
The Goose Filled Bear in 1949,

474
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,360
the Tuttle Bottoms Monster and
the HAMP Mine Monster of the

475
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:54,240
1960's.
The Missouri Monster AKA Momo of

476
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,320
the 70s, the Black Panther
attacks of 1971, the

477
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,560
Edwardsville Red Beasts in the
Enfield Horror of 1973, the Moro

478
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,360
Monster of 1976.
And if you go even further back,

479
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,320
you come across the Centerville
something from 1880s.

480
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:14,480
So the Murfreesboro Monster was
just one of many mysterious

481
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,640
entities being spotted
throughout the area and

482
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,600
throughout history.
And maybe there was something

483
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,400
more than natural going on here,
as you will soon learn.

484
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,800
The description of the creature
may seem inconsistent, but it

485
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,880
may just be because the light
haired Big Muddy may not be the

486
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,160
only mysterious creature
stalking the woods around

487
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,440
Murfreesboro.
When you add the fact that there

488
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,280
were and still are many other
unknown phenomena occurring in

489
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:44,120
Jackson County, Illinois and its
surrounding counties, this

490
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:48,320
becomes even more eye opening.
The area is literally infested

491
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,080
with UFO sightings, hauntings,
urban legends, the many

492
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,440
encrypted creatures we just
talked about, and a ton of other

493
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,960
events under the High
Strangeness umbrella.

494
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,080
The area in question is commonly
referred to as Little Egypt, a

495
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,920
name given to the area
encompassing all of Southern

496
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:09,680
Illinois by the founder of the
area, a Baptist minister in 1799

497
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,720
by the name of John Badgeley,
who lives in the area now known

498
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,520
as Edwardsville.
Badgley referred to the town

499
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,440
prior to the modern naming as
Land of Goshen, with Goshen

500
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,080
being a reference to a land
mentioned in the Bible in Lower

501
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,720
Egypt where the Israelites live,
farmed and practice agriculture.

502
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,720
It is said that he called it by
this name due to the lush

503
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,840
vegetation and fertile soil.
There are a total of 11 counties

504
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,000
that make up the Little Egypt
region, those being Alexander,

505
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:46,520
Gallatin, Hardin, Jackson,
Johnson, Mazik, Pope, Pulaski,

506
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,640
Saline, Union and Williamson
counties and is bordered by the

507
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,840
Mississippi River to the
southwest and the Ohio River to

508
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,040
the southeast with Murfreesboro
being located in Jackson County.

509
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,320
Within these counties there are
plethora of other strange

510
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,840
phenomenon outside of the realm
of physical creatures.

511
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,640
These phenomenon fall under a
few categories such as physical

512
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,120
anomalies, man made anomalies,
folk tales, manifestations, odd

513
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:17,320
gravitational events, and UFO
events To name a few of the

514
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:21,480
specific examples we have the
Cairo Bubble, the hauntings at

515
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Cairo's hospital, Public Library
and Opera House, the Duff

516
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,520
Spooklights, the McConnell
Banshee, The Cave in Rock of

517
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,440
Hardin County which houses many
phenomenon such as its own

518
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,480
banshee that screams out into
the night, headless dogs, an

519
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,400
incredible amount of haunted
roads and historical hotels, The

520
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,440
Hooven Hollow, Earth Lights,
Hicks Dome, a Headless Horseman,

521
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:50,120
the Hicks Town Earth Lights, the
Claude Tanner Omen, the Glowing

522
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,440
Bridge, the Lost village of
Ovie, the mystery of the Bedrock

523
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,680
footprints, and an incredible
number of haunted cemeteries

524
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,440
just to name a sliver of the
reported historical and modern

525
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,200
cases of high strangeness that
plagued the Little Egypt region.

526
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,680
There is enough going on in this
one section of the state of

527
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,560
Illinois that we could and will
cover an entire series one day

528
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,120
on the geology and the high
strangeness in Little Egypt.

529
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,840
One of the strange places within
the borders of Little Egypt that

530
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,640
should be highlighted is the
Shawnee National Forest.

531
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,800
If you're familiar with the
Missing 41 phenomenon or our

532
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,520
early series titled National
Park Mysteries, you are aware

533
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,640
that National Forest have their
own flavor of high strangeness,

534
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,320
especially when it comes to the
plethora of missing person cases

535
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:43,640
without ordinary details.
Shawnee encompasses 289,000

536
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,920
square acres of cliffs, dense
forest, forgotten caves, a

537
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,400
plethora species of wildlife,
and many old and dark swamplands

538
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,080
all wrapped up with strange
calls and wood knocks springing

539
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,080
through the night, sending
chills down the spines of those

540
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,080
with an earshot that are aware
of the possibility of a Bigfoot

541
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,560
like creature's existence.
The area of Little Egypt is

542
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,320
highly dissected in the book
Weird Egypt, The Case for

543
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Supernatural Geology by Jim
Jong.

544
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,680
In this book, Jung dives into
the idea that fault lines and

545
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,320
other natural geological
formations and structures may be

546
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,560
what causes the area's high
level of strange happenings.

547
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,480
But yet again, we'll cover that
more in depth on another episode

548
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:31,000
of The Infinite Rabbit Hole.
All right, guys.

549
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,680
So.
I want to go that sounds Nope.

550
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,040
Let's go, dude.
Can you go back out?

551
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,720
We're talking about like the
Egyptian.

552
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,600
Yeah, little Egypt.
Yeah, can you, can you just read

553
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,640
that part again?
Do you mind?

554
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:50,760
So mostly, yeah, I mean, I I
could go into it more in depth,

555
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,960
but like I said, I will be
covering this more in in another

556
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,480
episode at one point, but just
to read that section again.

557
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,120
The area in question is commonly
referred to as Little Egypt, a

558
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,240
name given to the area
encompassing all of southern

559
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,720
Illinois by the founder of the
area of Baptist minister in 1799

560
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,680
by the name of John Badgley, who
lived in the area now known as

561
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920
Edwardsville.
Badgley referred to the town

562
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,680
prior to the modern naming as
the land of Goshen, with Goshen

563
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,360
being a reference to a land
mentioned in the Bible in Lower

564
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,720
Egypt, where the Israelites
lived, farmed and practiced

565
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,920
agriculture.
It is said that he called it by

566
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,360
this name due to the lush
vegetation and fertile soil.

567
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,400
Is that what you wanted?
That's like the whole Midwest.

568
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,440
So, right, you know, I, I 'cause
you, you said that and then I

569
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,080
kind of got distracted, I'm not
going to lie.

570
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,640
And I started thinking about
this whole Egypt was America.

571
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,440
You heard this before.
No.

572
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,880
Yeah, there's, I'd have to
really do the the research and

573
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,880
like look into it.
But I've seen this before.

574
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,400
There's like this idea that I
guess what we think of as

575
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,760
ancient Egypt and like all the
stories and this, and that's

576
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,680
like a lot of that was actually
taking place on this continent

577
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,400
and not over there.
And there's like a lot of ties

578
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,880
with like what they've named a
lot of the cities in the States,

579
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,040
you know, they've named a lot of
them after like cities that are

580
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,360
in Egypt or vice versa, right?
And it's like, it goes back to

581
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:21,280
this like altered history, like
mud flood reset, you know, is

582
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,000
everything they're telling us
like flip-flopped or inverted

583
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,320
somehow and like the maps being
flipped, right?

584
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,200
Like maybe there was a magnetic
shift of some kind or whatever,

585
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,040
you know, pull shit, whatever,
whatever they used to talk about

586
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,840
with that kind of thing.
And then, you know, the maps

587
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,680
were different and this was
actually the Mississippi.

588
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,480
Mississippi was the Nile and all
these things because there's

589
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,840
pyramids here.
I, I think you'd be interested

590
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,960
in this book to be honest with
you, because it dives into the

591
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,320
geology and fault lines and and
fissures and cracks and stuff

592
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,320
that flow up and down the
Mississippi, which would

593
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,640
encompass Jake and I's location
here too.

594
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,200
But this book that I, that I got
all this from is Weird Egypt by

595
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,760
Jim Jong.
And I don't want to say what I

596
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:16,960
paid for this because it took me
a long time to find this copy.

597
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:24,360
But this is this is a, a book
entirely about the the little

598
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:29,920
Egypt area of southern Illinois.
And reading through it, when you

599
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,679
said that they name a lot of
places here in the United States

600
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,320
after Egyptian, you know,
sources.

601
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,000
You should take a look at some
of the towns in in southern

602
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,560
Illinois.
It's pretty crazy.

603
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,360
Yeah, I'll, I'll check that out.
But you definitely look into

604
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,960
that, that conspiracy too,
because it's a fun one.

605
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,760
I'm going to look into that.
Well, you should present that.

606
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:55,760
Maybe I will.
Maybe you should, I mean what?

607
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,920
What do you guys think?
In the chat should should Hefei

608
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,160
present to us the the theory
that America is Egypt or ancient

609
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,680
Egypt?
What do you guys say?

610
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:07,960
Yeah, it hasn't presented
anything else.

611
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,960
Give him a guilt trip.
Neither have I though.

612
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,000
Hangers bro, when I bring, I
bring the heat.

613
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,000
You guys have both presented 1
episode this year.

614
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,320
One to Steven Dang bringing that
heat.

615
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:27,640
Still banger every time.
Jake did goat Man and you did

616
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,200
the other one.
The thing the the the the thing

617
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,680
the the the meteor, the
asteroid, or whatever you know,

618
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,560
the younger driest.
You did your driest Atlantis.

619
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,240
No, you did Atlantis a couple
years ago.

620
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,480
Yeah, talk.
About this year.

621
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,800
This year, yeah, one matters.
Passed like a couple months ago.

622
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,000
According to that, Jeremy is.
Running in hot I'll come in hot

623
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,440
with some new.
Every single cent that's made is

624
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,640
going straight to Jeremy's
pocket because he's the only one

625
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,480
doing anything for the show.
Put some pressure.

626
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,240
On some sauce.
Not for you guys only because

627
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:07,560
the Chad said so.
So not because of you guys.

628
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,840
Yeah, put it on, lay it on them
nice and thick.

629
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,400
He does work for the fans and
not for the hosts.

630
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,680
That's right.
That's right.

631
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,160
Yet he won't even take off his
shirt.

632
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:24,240
What scum.
Just doing it for peanut, peanut

633
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,880
and Harambe.
Peanut and Harambe.

634
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,800
That's sick.
Oh my gosh, that story is so

635
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,040
effed.
Yeah.

636
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,800
Well, this they had a raccoon
too, man.

637
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,480
Yeah, dude, that's like.
The raccoon's name?

638
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Frank.
Yeah, in order to save the

639
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,640
animals from inhumane
conditions, they come in and

640
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,440
kill both.
For for Peanut, Frank and

641
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,520
Harambe.
I'll.

642
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,120
I'll bring in some heat on some
lost history.

643
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,800
OK, good.
Yeah.

644
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,520
I, I feel like I'm gonna get
learned it.

645
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:07,360
It's been great.
Last section of the night.

646
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,000
It's a long one.
We're gonna get into some

647
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:12,720
sightings.
Good.

648
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,800
And and encounters.
We're gonna you guys ready?

649
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,760
Ready to roll?
Dude, I'm so ready.

650
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:27,120
This is going quick, all right
before the 1970s.

651
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,000
As I mentioned before, the bulk
of Murfreesboro monster

652
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,440
sightings took place in the year
1973, but there were plenty of

653
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,560
sightings of strange creatures
stalking the area of the Big

654
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:44,760
Muddy for decades prior 1915.
Creole Springs, Illinois In the

655
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,240
town of Creole Springs,
Illinois, just 35 miles

656
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:53,080
southeast of Murfreesboro, the
local animals, both domesticated

657
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,840
and wild, began to act
strangely.

658
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,320
Horses were skittish and
aggressive, cattle were crashing

659
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,160
through fences, and dogs were
acting aggressive to their

660
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,880
owners.
The locals of the area believed

661
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,240
that it was due to something
else being in the woods

662
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,200
surrounding the town, something
that was threatening them,

663
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:15,000
something alpha if you will.
How did the locals come to this

664
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,760
conclusion?
Well, it started with strong,

665
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,920
aggressive and guttural roars
coming from the tree lines.

666
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,480
The distant roars soon evolved
into low growls coming from the

667
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,040
thick brush near people's yards
and then eventually so one

668
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,760
finally laid eyes on it.
Late one night, a young man was

669
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,360
driving home when he witnessed a
large creature stare him down

670
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:41,280
while he was driving by in his
vehicle, let out a threatening

671
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,440
yell and clear a nearby fence
before running off out of sight.

672
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,640
The Carbondale Daily Free Press
was the first publication to

673
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,920
publish anything on the matter
on April 29th in 1915, but the

674
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,360
creature was never identified,
nor was it ever documented to

675
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,520
have been seen ever again.
The yells and the growls would

676
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,120
continue for a few months, but
after that stint of strangeness,

677
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,560
everything settled down.
The locals became convinced that

678
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,880
the mysterious creature was
either a displaced Mountain Lion

679
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,280
or an escaped animal from either
a zoo or a train transporting

680
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,600
circus animals.
So many people now believe

681
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:28,400
differently. 19281929,
Carbondale, IL In the December

682
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:33,200
11th, 1928 edition of the
Carbondale Free Press, an

683
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,200
article was published that
highlighted multiple cases of

684
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:40,080
hunting dogs in the area being
found dead just 7 miles

685
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,120
southeast of Murfreesboro.
Apparently an unknown killer was

686
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,520
about and they were leaving
these dogs in a gruesome state

687
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,800
for their owners to find.
Many of the dogs had crushed

688
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,480
skulls, partially eaten heads,
and blood seemingly drained from

689
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,520
their throats.
A Doctor Etherton's dogs were a

690
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,600
few of the victims, however.
Whoever or whatever.

691
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,440
Killed his prize foxhounds was
able to cut through a chain link

692
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,160
fence, leaving a hole big enough
for a human to crawl through

693
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,680
before dismembering the dogs.
This too was considered by most

694
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,560
locals to be an escaped animal
from a train that was

695
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:24,840
transporting zoo or circus
animals. 1941 Colt, Illinois In

696
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,800
the winter of 1941, the
residents of Culp, Illinois were

697
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,040
shocked to discover that the
recent uptick in quote UN quote

698
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,640
beast sightings may have some
truth behind them.

699
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,520
After all.
A large trackway was discovered

700
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,000
in various portions of the town
in the fresh morning snow.

701
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,040
The Murfreesboro Daily
Independent newspaper quoted a

702
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,800
local resident quote.
Of course, we didn't believe

703
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,080
rumors of such a beast until we
inspect the footprints.

704
00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:57,520
They measured 8 inches across
and were V shaped unlike

705
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,680
anything we've ever seen.
A posse was formed early on

706
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,200
after the discovery of the
Prince with the intention of

707
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,040
tracking down the beast and
where it lived.

708
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,680
But as the morning went on, more
fresh snow fell and the trackway

709
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,440
was lost before the townsfolk
could find the truth of the

710
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:20,600
strange Prince. 1942 Duquoin,
Illinois In 1942, in the town of

711
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,040
Duquoin, just 20 miles north of
Murfreesboro, multiple reports

712
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:29,880
were called in of what author
Chad Lewis described as quote, a

713
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,480
giant silver monster.
These monster stories completely

714
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,480
took over all of the town's
chatter and left everyone scared

715
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,680
and nervous about what this
monster could possibly do to

716
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,200
themselves, their families,
their animals and property.

717
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,160
These reports describe cases of
screen doors and windows being

718
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,320
damaged, missing animals, and
shots being fired at some

719
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,480
enormous beast.
Those that laid eyes on it seem

720
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,400
to have either collaborated in
their stories or they really saw

721
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:04,720
something most of them described
as a quote UN quote 7 foot tall

722
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:11,120
man like creature. 1942
Murfreesboro, Illinois In

723
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,920
October of 1942, an article was
published in the Murfreesboro

724
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,400
Daily Independent highlighting
the pathway the creatures seem

725
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,080
to be taking in a Southwestern
fashion.

726
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,160
The article included a few
reports with date stamps

727
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,080
providing proof that whatever it
was, it was clearly moving in a

728
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,760
certain direction.
One such report in the

729
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,440
Independent that day highlighted
a report of a man just South of

730
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,200
Carbondale that burst through
the doors of the local Sheriff's

731
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:43,000
Office yelling about, quote, an
animal weighing about £400 that

732
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600
jumped out in front of his car
while he was driving down the

733
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:51,840
highway. 1948 Pinckneyville, IL,
just 20 miles north of

734
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,920
Murfreesboro.
A flap of mutilations involving

735
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,000
beloved family dogs in the area
was soon accompanied by a print

736
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:03,600
covered in the mud of bee coop
bottoms where a local trapper

737
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,320
Buster Doll, was conducting his
morning rounds of checking his

738
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,320
traps.
Doll came upon the print and

739
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,400
immediately dugout the earth
around it, preserving the print

740
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,280
the best he could.
This print was immediately put

741
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,640
on display in town, and many of
the locals believed it to be a

742
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,000
print of a really large black
bear.

743
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,960
But many of the local hunters
and woodsman thought

744
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,480
differently, including Buster
Doll himself, who was quoted in

745
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,920
the Daily Independent newspaper
as saying that he was quote

746
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,960
going to trap somewhere else, as
he was fearful that he would

747
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,880
lose many traps, possibly even
his own life.

748
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:44,040
December 1948.
Steelville, Denmark 30 miles

749
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,360
northwest of Murfreesboro in the
town of Steelville, a local

750
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,400
farmer by the name of Hermann
Rubach began hearing strange

751
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,760
screams from the woods
surrounding his property at

752
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,920
night.
Rubach became concerned when his

753
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,080
brave hunting dogs began
cowering with their tails tucked

754
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,560
when the screams ringed out.
Rubach himself was not a

755
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,720
believer in the idea of some
unknown creature lurking in the

756
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:09,440
local woods and believed that
the animal responsible for the

757
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,440
screams was an ocelot.
The problem with this assumption

758
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,400
is that ocelots are small
Wildcats that are native to

759
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:20,320
northern South America and
Central America, not the

760
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,160
northern Midwest states of the
US.

761
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:26,880
Others came forward claiming
that they believed the screams

762
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,680
that were eventually being heard
everywhere around town were

763
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:35,160
those of a bobcat, but nobody
was ever able to bring proof

764
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:40,200
that it was a local or displaced
Wildcat, nor was anyone ever

765
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,440
able to prove that it was an
unknown bipedal creature either.

766
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,080
Only 10 miles West of the
previous report in Steelville,

767
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,400
the town of Denmark, Illinois
began having their own strange

768
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,280
noises blurring out into the
night from the tree lines.

769
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,480
But it wasn't the loud, distant
noises that had Alma Davis

770
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,840
concern.
It was a deep, aggressive growl

771
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,920
she heard when she went to
investigate what was making her

772
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,760
dogs bark wildly.
Misses Davis believed to be

773
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,240
believed it to be the growl of a
bear and compare the sound of

774
00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:15,440
that of a bear on exhibit she
had seen at the Saint Louis Zoo.

775
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,760
Another strange event would take
place in the same month in the

776
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,680
town of Ergenes, Illinois, just
10 miles north of Murfreesboro,

777
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:28,360
where Miss EG Steinhaimer would
be too scared to open her back

778
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,160
door after hearing a large
creature stomp around on her

779
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,240
back porch late at night.
She had walked to the back door

780
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:39,560
to check what was making her
dogs bark wildly, but froze in

781
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,080
fear when she heard heavy
footfall lumbering around just

782
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,800
on the other side of the door.
Miss Steinheimer when not open

783
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,520
the door that night and never
learned the identity of the

784
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,840
mysterious porch stomper.
So actually, we'll, we'll take a

785
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,840
break right there because I'm
going to dive into the 1950s.

786
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:58,560
We'll we'll create another
section of this.

787
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,240
So what do you guys think?
Definitely a bear or Bigfoot.

788
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:04,400
One of those two, huh?
They've.

789
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,480
Got elk, right?
It's kind of, it could be an

790
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,840
elk.
Not in southern Illinois, no, I

791
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,280
don't think so.
No, what other like big animals

792
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,320
are over there?
Big feats, Chevy 15 hundreds.

793
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,440
That's about it.
Mr. Beast eats people.

794
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,240
Apparently he does.
Apparently he does.

795
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,360
What was the circumstances
around that I.

796
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,520
Don't know, he probably.
Jeremy, it was Jeremy.

797
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:36,960
Was talking about yeah, yeah or.
Somebody he wasn't supposed to

798
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,880
endorse and then boom, you know.
Somebody, somebody leaked their

799
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,560
their private chats within their
little Mr. Beast groups and

800
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:49,640
apparently he was talking about,
you know, weird stuff with

801
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,080
little kids and, and eating
people.

802
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:56,480
Well, I guess if they ever look
at our Twitch chats, we're all

803
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,400
screwed.
Booty hole first, yes.

804
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,960
A long.
Day that's so wild I never heard

805
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:13,640
that yeah see if you guys aren't
in live streaming us on twitch

806
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:17,440
like you're missing out because
we're dying in the chats right

807
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:21,880
now but cannibalism all kinds.
Of stuff the chat is just yeah

808
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,840
I'm.
Trying to be serious after

809
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,560
you're asleep, you know, finding
it taste like worms.

810
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:32,680
OK.
So I like that there's a lot of

811
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,120
a lot of sightings and not just
starting in the 70s.

812
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:43,080
It's like you said, all the
surrounding areas where it's the

813
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:46,160
same, probably the same
creature, but it's just named

814
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,520
different things.
So if you were to look at

815
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:54,200
Murfreesboro Monster, it's going
to say first noted in 1970 or

816
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,720
whatever, but if you look at all
the other names of this

817
00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,640
creature, you get all the other
dates and stuff like that.

818
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,800
So that's good.
That's, that's really good.

819
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,960
And it would be interesting to
look up Native American lore or

820
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:14,040
stories or or mythologies or
whatever from this area for this

821
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,560
creature.
And that would, in my mind, put

822
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,920
a lot more weight into it being
real.

823
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,680
But also that since there's so
many sightings, they go back

824
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,920
way, way further.
That's that's good too.

825
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:29,400
So that's what I look for.
I mean, I've said it ad nauseam

826
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,200
in multiple different episodes,
but if this is your first

827
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,000
episode, when I'm looking for
something as far as like the

828
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,960
validation of the realistic
nature of a creature, Bigfoot,

829
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,200
Loch Ness Monster, whatever,
right?

830
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,640
It really helps if the sightings
don't just start at some time

831
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,880
frame like the 90s or whatever
it is.

832
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,440
If it goes back way further,
especially if there's Native

833
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,920
American lore for it.
Because these humans, you know,

834
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:03,720
these people and culture
societies, they, they knew what

835
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:07,640
was in the woods.
So yeah, they have their own

836
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,760
mythologies.
Like, you know, the moon rises

837
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,600
every day or, or, or the sun
rises every day because the fox

838
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,240
jumps across the sky and grabs
it and drags it over, you know,

839
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:18,560
things like that.
Oh, sure.

840
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,920
But when it comes to like their
big hairy brothers that are in

841
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,280
the woods and things like that,
that aren't bare, that aren't,

842
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,680
you know, whatever else they
describe as like people

843
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,800
essentially, but covered in
hair, things like that, you'll

844
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:42,880
find a lot of that.
And for me, that solidifies it

845
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,840
as maybe not now if there's
hasn't been any recent

846
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,880
sightings, but then, yeah,
something was definitely there

847
00:49:52,720 --> 00:49:55,760
now as the proof of it, you
know, is there biological proof?

848
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,440
Unfortunately, that's where
things kind of drop off the map,

849
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,960
which sucks, right?
But as far as, you know,

850
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,680
claiming the realism of
something.

851
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:08,800
But I really like it when
there's a consistent pattern of

852
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,400
sightings throughout history as
far as like when people actually

853
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,600
start reporting stuff and like
the newspaper was something that

854
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,640
could really be seen by a
multitude of people versus just

855
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:22,320
the town or whatever it is.
And, you know, there's records

856
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,080
of those sorts of things.
But then also when it gets so

857
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:29,960
far in that before this town or
this city existed and there was

858
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,440
only natives living there, that
the natives of that area had

859
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:40,120
lore or stories about the same
type of creature, right, that

860
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,120
these people are reporting.
So that's cool.

861
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,760
I like it.
Yeah, I'm always suspicious if

862
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,760
there's if.
There's shows up.

863
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,200
Yeah, if the stories just pop
up, especially like in the 1900s

864
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,280
or something, right, or late
1800s, I'm usually pretty

865
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,840
suspicious because it's when we
start flying, that's when we

866
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,680
start, you know, doing crazy
tech and messing with

867
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,120
electricity and like all kinds
of other stuff.

868
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,480
So, you know, there's like weird
phenomena that people weren't

869
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,120
used to seeing and hearing and
all that kind of stuff at the

870
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:10,800
time, right?
So like you, you could probably

871
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,880
explain away like half of all
types of weird sightings.

872
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,280
But yeah, going back, even
ChatGPT didn't have anything for

873
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,360
me on ancient lore or Native
American lore on this one,

874
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,960
right?
Did you?

875
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,200
Why are you laughing?
Did you look too?

876
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,240
Did you ask chat?
PT No, Yeah.

877
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:34,320
No Google's wack bro all right
but this?

878
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,360
Is this is exactly what you're
going to get from Jeff on his

879
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,360
next episode, ChatGPT?
Write me up a podcast episode

880
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:45,240
lasting roughly an hour long on
this topic, and that's what

881
00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:48,280
you're going to get.
You know I hate that already.

882
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,680
It's going to be like, yeah, the
last one that you did where I'm

883
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:51,600
just like.
I won't.

884
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,720
I wrote that for.
You, because you don't say that

885
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:58,640
stuff when you're speaking.
I won't do it again, but I did

886
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,280
do it once and that it was a
great episode.

887
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,600
It was a great episode, all
right, and I did some tweaking.

888
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,200
What happened to DuckDuckGo?
DuckDuckGo doesn't update itself

889
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,680
as much.
Like I've noticed that some of

890
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,040
the information isn't like as up
to date, owned by Google

891
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,960
probably I would imagine.
All right.

892
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,120
Skeeter says what happened to
Duck Duck to go.

893
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:24,760
He already answered it.
I just answered that.

894
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,040
I wasn't listening because I was
reading the comments.

895
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,640
Furthermore, shut up, kid.
Yeah, wow, that's hate speech.

896
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,640
You can't say that.
Kid, I would never tell you to

897
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,920
shut up, kids.
Offended.

898
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,800
I meant that in a fun way it.
Was a joke.

899
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,360
Not ever.
Crystal says pay attention Jake,

900
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,480
you can't say that to me.
I've got ADD.

901
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,600
I have a disability and I'm
offended now.

902
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Cancelled.
I do like the idea of doing

903
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,800
doing a highlights from the chat
thing.

904
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,040
Maybe we'll put on the back of
the episode.

905
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,720
Spoiler alert, we're getting a
producer soon.

906
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:08,080
Hopefully we'll see.
Maybe that could be a producer

907
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:13,440
task to to highlight some chats
at the end of the episode every

908
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,880
every episode.
Yeah, yeah, we're going to set

909
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,240
that up.
We're going to have to sit

910
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:24,760
together and all have like a off
stream meeting one night and get

911
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,760
everything dialed in.
We'll we'll make that part of

912
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,360
the Patreon.
You guys could be part of our

913
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,400
off stream meetings if you if
you're in the Patreon.

914
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,160
Yeah, that'd be cool.
Yeah, yeah.

915
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,600
All right.
You guys ready to to finish it

916
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,560
out with the 50s and 60s?
Yeah, let's go.

917
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,640
Yeah, man, it's a, it's a pretty
short section, so.

918
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,920
Teach me.
Oh, you're about to get taught

919
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:45,440
it.
You ready?

920
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,720
Oh, teach me so good.
Teach me step bro.

921
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,920
Help me step bro up.
I'm stuck.

922
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:59,520
Teach me, teach me every.
I don't know how to read all

923
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,040
right.
Damn it dude, now I gotta stop.

924
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:11,640
Just cracking up.
Jesus.

925
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:16,120
There's cracking up too.
All right, Come on, man, Stop

926
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:16,760
lagging.
I'm.

927
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,280
Working on it.
I'm getting there all right.

928
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,200
The 1950's, the 1950s started
off with a bang.

929
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,200
Many different reports were
being submitted throughout the

930
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,880
area of Murfreesboro and its
surroundings.

931
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,320
The creature would seem to
prefer the area around the

932
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,320
Murfreesboro Iron and Metal Co
where a local reporter for the

933
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,440
Daily Independent would stake
out on multiple nights to try

934
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,240
and learn the true identity of
the mysterious creature.

935
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,120
There were apparently many run
insurance that the reporter

936
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,200
would have with the beast where
it would be just outside of his

937
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,880
line of sight, but eventually
the creature seemed to move on

938
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,760
from the area around the Steel
and metal company and the

939
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:03,560
reporter never learned of its
true identity. 1958, Jackson

940
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:06,800
County.
The February 2nd, 1958 edition

941
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,400
of the Southern Illinoisian
published John Sherman's story

942
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,200
of discovering perfectly shaped
prints in the snow on the side

943
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,000
of the road in Jackson County.
Sherman would track the prints

944
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,920
for a few miles to the fence of
a pasture where the whatever

945
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,880
left them seemed to walk back
and forward a few times before

946
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,440
seemingly jumping over the
fence.

947
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,520
The prints were 7 1/2 inches
long and five and a quarter

948
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,280
inches wide with strides from 38
to 40 inches long.

949
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,160
Many of the locals believed it
to be a lion or a Mountain Lion,

950
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,960
but an expert in large animal
tracks from Southern Illinois

951
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:47,160
University by the name of Doctor
Klimstra was quoted on an issue

952
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,280
of the Southern Illinoisian
saying, quote, the tracks

953
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,440
definitely are not those of a
Mountain Lion or a cougar.

954
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,800
The same report would state that
he was convinced that it was

955
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,840
from a very large animal in the
Keenid family, but the

956
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,720
identification of whatever left
the tracks was never solidified.

957
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:12,680
1968 Herrin IL the headline
stating quote 10 foot tall.

958
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,480
What's it reported seeing
highlighted the cover of August

959
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:21,920
19th, 1968 edition of the
Southern Illinois, alluding to

960
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,960
an encounter just 10 miles east
of Murfreesboro in the town of

961
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:31,040
Herron. 22 year old Tim Bullock
and his girlfriend, 17 year old

962
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:35,560
Barbara Smith, were doing what
young love does in a car on the

963
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,480
side of the road near the woods
when a clump of dirt was thrown

964
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,680
in the open driver side window
of Bullock's car.

965
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,480
Tim Bullock attempted to look
around in the shadows the tree

966
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,480
line for the prankster that
thought that they could get a

967
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,000
laugh out of messing with him
and Barbara, but he was never

968
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,440
able to see anyone or anything.
Barbara on the other hand would

969
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,960
scream at the top of her lungs
when she spotted a humongous

970
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,520
black figure.
She would later estimate it to

971
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,600
be 10 feet tall.
Walking around just past the

972
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,120
tree line, she claimed that the
thing's head was as large and

973
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,160
round as his car's steering
wheel.

974
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:18,480
Barbara's reaction was enough
for Bullock to act and speed out

975
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,320
of the area.
The next day, Bullock would have

976
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,440
returned find a large impression
in the grasp where he believed

977
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,200
that whatever it was may have
laid down for an extended

978
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,360
period.
In the same article, two other

979
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,200
reports would mention run
insurance with a 10 foot tall

980
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,080
bipedal something in the area
between Chittyville and Heron.

981
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,320
All right, that's all the
reports we're going to do for

982
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,720
tonight.
Shitty Ville.

983
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,240
Shitty, shitty, shitty.
Ville.

984
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,360
Shitty Ville.
Yeah, this is a shitty Ville

985
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:52,480
man.
Where do you?

986
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,520
Where do you live, oh shitty
Ville?

987
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,640
There's a place over here called
Taintsville.

988
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:59,680
Yeah.
Real true place.

989
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:00,480
Real place.
Oh.

990
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,120
Jake what?
That's.

991
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,080
Crazy.
Help me step bro I'm stuck in

992
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:09,240
this wood chipper dying I.
Didn't take my glasses off.

993
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,000
I start fogging up my feet got
so hot.

994
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:18,800
It's freaking dying.
And then Kenzer saying Jake stop

995
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,960
I'm crying so hard.
Laugh out loud.

996
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,800
I was just, I was dying, bro.
Skeeter Yeah.

997
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:30,480
So the the one where the canid
prints were found does allude to

998
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,680
a dog man type creature.
You know, we haven't dove into a

999
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:39,040
Dog man topic in a while, in a
very, very long while.

1000
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,920
We should do that.
We should do like Dog Man.

1001
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,960
Exclusively bipedal or or do
they go on all fours as well

1002
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,760
They.
They do go on all fours and they

1003
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:55,200
they are most found along the
Mississippi Valley River area,

1004
00:58:55,200 --> 00:59:00,120
Mississippi River Valley, which
is there's a connection there.

1005
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,160
So from the research that I have
done into the dog man

1006
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:11,120
phenomenon, there are two major
points of origin for the dog man

1007
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,520
phenomenon here in the United
States.

1008
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:17,320
You have one in the, the Upper
Peninsula, Michigan's and down

1009
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,320
into Wisconsin where you get
like the the beast of Beret Road

1010
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:26,760
and then you have the Rougarou
down in southern Louisiana.

1011
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:33,440
Now if you look at the history
of upright walking canons or

1012
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:38,520
werewolves, you know of the
such, you get the Lucaroux lore

1013
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:43,240
from France.
France the the French word.

1014
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,280
From the rugaru and all that
stuff, yeah.

1015
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,440
Yeah, So, and if you look at the
two areas of the country that

1016
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:54,960
were first established by French
populations, you have Louisiana

1017
00:59:55,120 --> 01:00:00,040
and you have the Great Lakes
area where they, they shipped in

1018
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:05,000
from the Atlantic Ocean.
You know, they, they, they

1019
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,640
traveled along the Great Lakes
area and they, they stayed, you

1020
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:13,400
know, eventually established
pretty much primarily the

1021
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,560
Canadian side of the Great
Lakes.

1022
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,360
And that's where you get a lot
of the French Canadians and

1023
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,160
everything.
And I'm sure Kate can kind of

1024
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,280
clear that up for us too.
She probably is better adept

1025
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,280
into the history of Canada and
French Canada and.

1026
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:34,200
Canadia all around.
But when you when you take that

1027
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,240
and you create a line from
Michigan or at least the Upper

1028
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:45,200
Peninsula of Michigan down to
Louisiana, for the most part it

1029
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,920
follows very closely to the
Mississippi River.

1030
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:55,640
And when you align the, the
sightings of dog men, which are

1031
01:00:55,640 --> 01:01:00,760
primarily along the Mississippi
River, it it that there's just

1032
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:05,320
too much coincidence there.
I'm, I'm going to save my, my

1033
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,960
thoughts and feelings on that
for when we actually do dive

1034
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,000
into the dog man phenomenon.
But I, I always found that to be

1035
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,560
an interesting tidbit for the
dog man.

1036
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,960
And when you add Little Egypt
and the, the counties in there,

1037
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,320
you, you do also get a ton of
dog man encounters.

1038
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,040
And I, I specifically threw that
one in there because I wanted to

1039
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,960
highlight that there are other
creatures in this area,

1040
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:36,080
specifically dog man.
Now dog man is a creature that

1041
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:39,960
has been spotted in Little Egypt
quite a bit or in the southern

1042
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:45,200
southern Illinois counties.
So I wanted to, to make sure I

1043
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,280
threw that out there.
Skeeter, thanks for catching on

1044
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,560
that.
I appreciate that means I did

1045
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,720
well and hopefully some other
people catch that too.

1046
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:59,840
I think I'd like to do an
episode on lycanthropism because

1047
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,360
I'm such a big monster fan.
I think that would be really

1048
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,080
dope.
And then I'm going to, I'm going

1049
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,680
to do the thing and see if I
turn into werewolf.

1050
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,600
I'm going to drink rainwater
during a full moon out of a

1051
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:14,680
wolf's paw print and see if I
either contract dysentery or

1052
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:17,880
turn into a werewolf.
Either I turn into a werewolf or

1053
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,280
I crap my brains out.
One of the two.

1054
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:25,440
There is a book by Brad Steiger
called the werewolf book this

1055
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,520
right here, which I have already
read.

1056
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,880
I've read this.
I've had this book since before

1057
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:35,880
I started the infinite Rabbit
hole, which is where I I gained

1058
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,920
a lot of my my theories from
when it comes to dog man and and

1059
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,840
werewolves and such.
So if you do ever want to do

1060
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,520
that, here's the book that you
need to need to do your

1061
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,200
research.
Programs borrow it from you

1062
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,240
'cause this is tomorrow.
Incredible book, Absolutely.

1063
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:53,960
Incredible.
Bring it to the bring it to the

1064
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:55,600
restaurant tomorrow and I'll
borrow it from you.

1065
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:59,560
Yeah, absolutely.
Because that'd be that'd be

1066
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:00,120
cool.
I've the.

1067
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,480
Restaurant huge tomorrow.
Werewolf guy.

1068
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,320
Yeah, restaurant.
Well, yeah, I mean, I love all

1069
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,000
those sorts of movies.
Like I'm the monster movie guy,

1070
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,480
right?
So like my favorite movie series

1071
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,800
in that lion, I guess is like
the underworld series.

1072
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,280
And then also what's the
producers name?

1073
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,520
But the the newest wolfman
movie?

1074
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,080
I mean it came out a few years
ago, but it's it's good.

1075
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,160
What's Skeeter say?
God.

1076
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,200
Cool episode of three.
Well, if I did it, it would be

1077
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,720
at least three episodes for
sure.

1078
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,040
That's funny, yeah.
At least.

1079
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,520
It's only a 70 page write up.
Help me step around.

1080
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:49,680
I'm stuck in this write up.
Oh, that's fucked up man.

1081
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:53,480
I have I have a couple other
books that you you should

1082
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,560
probably grab too.
I'll bring them tomorrow.

1083
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,840
We're going to go to to
Milwaukee Burger tomorrow for

1084
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,120
veteran's day.
They're giving out free burgers

1085
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,360
to vets.
Me and Whitney are going to get

1086
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,160
cheese drunk.
I'm going to eat a burger and

1087
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,760
eat it all.
Bro, the first time we went

1088
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,520
there, holy crap, I went there
with you guys and I got those

1089
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,760
giant cubed pepper Jack cheese
curds.

1090
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:23,560
I ate so much cheese that I
almost like fell asleep.

1091
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,920
Amazing.
I had like like a 12 ounce beer.

1092
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,480
It wasn't that.
It was absolutely the amount of

1093
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,680
cheese that I had.
My body was just like and shut

1094
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:40,240
down factory reset.
See, when Jeff came up here for

1095
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,520
UFO days, we weren't able to do
any of the cool, like touristy

1096
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:46,240
stuff.
So if he ever does come back up,

1097
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,840
if we'll have to take him to
Milwaukee Burger because we'll

1098
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,600
have to introduce him to what
real cheese is.

1099
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:57,240
Not just the ones that you get
assaulted by, but like actual.

1100
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,040
Cheese curds.
Yeah, that that was aggressive

1101
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,400
cheese.
Now I have to work tomorrow on

1102
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,440
Veteran's Day because somebody
has to make the money that can

1103
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:09,000
be taxed so that you guys can
enjoy the day off, man.

1104
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,280
Yes.
I'm happy to do it for you guys,

1105
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,120
man.
Maybe we should cry about it

1106
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:14,720
with.
Your just no no no I'm happy to

1107
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,880
do it bro.
I just want you to have a slice

1108
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:21,040
of cheese in my honor.
Slice bro I'm going to eat like

1109
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:25,000
3 lbs of cheese.
Yeah, have a bite for me and

1110
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,560
just.
Remember that they have this

1111
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,840
sampler cheat, these cheese curd
samplers, which are just

1112
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,040
phenomenal, man.
They make pepper Jack cheese

1113
01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,440
curds.
That's that's an orgasm in your

1114
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,560
mouth.
That's amazing.

1115
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,440
Remembrance Day, they call it
Remembrance Day up there in

1116
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,400
Canadia.
Help me step bro I've eaten too

1117
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:45,960
much cheese and I'm blacking
that's.

1118
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,960
Weird Remembrance Day sounds
like some hell divers propaganda

1119
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,400
shit.
On Remembrance Day, will you

1120
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:58,680
remember the hell Divers?
That's like some some what is it

1121
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,760
Hunger Games type stuff.
Yeah, dude.

1122
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:05,280
On Remembrance Day, we gather up
24 of your kids and make them

1123
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:08,040
fight to the death for riches
and glory.

1124
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,120
Dude, cheese sticks.
Oh, I got cheese sticks in the

1125
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,560
fridge, don't I?
The producer says.

1126
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:15,680
We got cheese sticks in the
fridge.

1127
01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,160
All right, look, dude.
Bet you're not as good as the

1128
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,920
cheese sticks that you got hit
in the face with.

1129
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,440
Those were pretty good.
Those were pretty good.

1130
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,040
All right, so for anyone who
doesn't know.

1131
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,120
All right, so when we were doing
the Elmwood thing, the UFO days,

1132
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:37,960
the last day there was a parade,
and one of the 11 of the parade

1133
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:44,040
floats was for the cheese.
Ellsworth Cheese Factory.

1134
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,520
Elsworth cheese that's just
like, it's a local cheese

1135
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:48,040
manufacturer, all that sort of
stuff.

1136
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:54,120
But they had coolers of cheese
curds and I don't like string

1137
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,320
cheese and stuff like that.
And then milk as well.

1138
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:04,440
And they were like overhand
freaking 90 mile an hour pitches

1139
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:09,640
throwing these bag of cheese
curds at people so hard that

1140
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:14,640
Jeremy's wife Katie got like cut
by a bag right, like right in

1141
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:15,680
the.
Face man.

1142
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:20,080
Just nailed her in the face and
sliced her open and let me tell

1143
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,320
you, I ate that one and it was
it was great Is amazing.

1144
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,640
I'm pretty sure like.
Didn't it like almost knock the

1145
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:29,440
laptop over like?
Dude, they were just hauling him

1146
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,160
at us.
So it smacked the back of the

1147
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:34,800
laptop and there was like this
nice little ring on the the

1148
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:38,040
picture for like 3 minutes
before it finally faded away.

1149
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,040
Like they were, they were
chucking those things at you.

1150
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:43,920
Yeah, that was so Nope.
And then and then like the nice

1151
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,080
ladies come in afterwards and
like, would you like some

1152
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:47,760
chocolate milk?
And it's like, well, I guess

1153
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,080
I'll wash down some of this
aggressiveness with some

1154
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:53,200
chocolate milk.
I think I had I had taken one

1155
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,240
too many chocolate milks from
that nice lady.

1156
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,680
Yeah, those are good chocolate
milks too.

1157
01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,800
I was as aggressive as they were
throwing the cheese.

1158
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,400
I was that aggressive getting
those chocolate milks from her.

1159
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:07,640
Yeah.
Crystal asks in the chat, well

1160
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,480
she said cheese made from
Bigfoot milk or someone said

1161
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,160
that.
Crystal said can you milk a

1162
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:17,160
Bigfoot and Skeeter says if it's
got nipples you can.

1163
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:25,200
Pinzer says you can milk
anything so long as it has

1164
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:26,920
nipples.
Laugh out loud.

1165
01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,000
For those of my.
Questions the same thing here

1166
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,600
would be what do you mean by
milking a Bigfoot?

1167
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,080
Like what?
What general is mostly like

1168
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,319
you're milk are?
You like this?

1169
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,600
Yeah, are you, are you milking
it or are you milking it?

1170
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,000
Like what's going on?
Family show here, Jake.

1171
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,960
We're talking about family.
Show I think we've established

1172
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,720
by deep fried human butt holes
that this is not a family show,

1173
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,600
Crystal says.
Whoa.

1174
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,359
Clearly because she's never
thought about.

1175
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:57,160
Two hands for.
Sure we died 2 hands for sure

1176
01:08:57,319 --> 01:09:00,720
see look look y'all if you
aren't following us on twitch

1177
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:03,359
and you're just seeing this on
YouTube or whatever it is I mean

1178
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:06,160
this would be dope if like the
chat stream and stuff was

1179
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,279
parallel to the YouTube videos,
but like you guys are missing

1180
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:13,680
out because we're we're cracking
up here because of the chat

1181
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:14,840
like.
We can overlay it.

1182
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,200
We have to overlay it on here.
There's so, yeah, there's so

1183
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,240
much lost context.
No, no, we need to not overlay

1184
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,000
it because we need to make sure
that people come to the Twitch.

1185
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:26,760
That's the goal, right?
We want to get people on the

1186
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,760
Twitch.
We want to.

1187
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,040
Airpoint.
People live.

1188
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:39,040
Crystal's two handed Milky.
You know they say about big

1189
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,760
feet, big socks.
Yeah, they do.

1190
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,439
Big stocks, big shoes too,
probably.

1191
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,720
Shit, all right.
Danny says.

1192
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,720
I'm laughing so hard I can't see
straight.

1193
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,960
Bro this Twitch thing is like
the best thing we've done.

1194
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:00,440
Isn't it all right?
Isn't it?

1195
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,640
Back to the episode.
The episode's I'm.

1196
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:07,920
Not well, I as far as like
wrapping it up, we we went

1197
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,880
straight into the the chat and
stuff like that.

1198
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,720
I.
We got a whole another Part 2 to

1199
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:16,040
do next Sunday.
Yeah, but still, I'm like, I'm

1200
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,480
like 90% sure that this thing's
real.

1201
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,880
Oh, I think it is.
Do the do the sightings, I mean

1202
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:27,160
without getting too far too far
into it, do the sightings like

1203
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,760
continue into like recent years?
Yes.

1204
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,880
Or kind of just drop off.
I'll, I'll read off the topics

1205
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,760
that we'll go over next.
Next Sunday we're going to go

1206
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,000
into the 1970s.
Obviously we're going to do the,

1207
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,360
the big sightings of the 1970s
and then we're going to, there's

1208
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,680
a couple other topics that we
dive into that are specific big

1209
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:48,800
sightings.
One's called the salvage yard,

1210
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:56,080
and then we dive into modern
sightings, which I dive right

1211
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:02,200
into, like the stuff from BFRO.
Part 2 is female Bigfoot milk

1212
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:07,240
farms dude.
Yes, got us.

1213
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:15,640
Oh.
My gosh, female Bigfoot milk

1214
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,600
farms.
Look, if we capture a female

1215
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:23,400
Bigfoot, I promise you that I
will throw that milk up on

1216
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:25,880
Amazon so everyone can get a
taste, you know I'm saying.

1217
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,160
After this episode, I guarantee
you Twitch updates its terms of

1218
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:33,920
service and.
We're talking about milk.

1219
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,320
No more talking about
mythological creatures nipples

1220
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,120
when you're when you're bringing
milk and cheese and stuff.

1221
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,920
Yeah, Crystal.
No, we're talking about milk and

1222
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:44,840
those big feats.
Weirdo.

1223
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:49,000
I might lick your boyfriend in
asleep but you better not be

1224
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:53,000
milking them big feets.
She's like, oh God.

1225
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,640
Fuck TRT, we got Bigfoot milk on
here.

1226
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:02,880
It's like labels like bone
broth.

1227
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,920
Oh my gosh, remind me of that
freaking that movie animal from

1228
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:09,720
gosh who?
Who is it?

1229
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,280
It was.
Squatch milk.

1230
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,960
Jeff, what was the actor?
Dude, we should make a protein

1231
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,520
bar and protein shakes.
Actor from what?

1232
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,240
Animal what?
The fuck are you talking about?

1233
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,880
He's a he's a comedian.
He's a Jew, he's a comedian.

1234
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,760
Oh the the Jewish comedian guy.
Yeah, I know you're talking

1235
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:29,560
about.
Come on, bro.

1236
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:34,440
Anyway, they're like, the whole
promo was like badger milk that

1237
01:12:34,440 --> 01:12:37,040
you're supposed to like get all
these incredible gains from

1238
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,680
drinking badger milk and he's
like, that's a.

1239
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,160
Good badger milk, you know.
What I'm saying what?

1240
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:43,080
The Who the fuck?
Oh my gosh.

1241
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,960
It's ringing a bell.
I don't know, it's been a while.

1242
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:48,880
I'm.
Going to look at it.

1243
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,520
Anyways.
Real man of genius.

1244
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,400
Hey you guys want to see
Skeeter's UFO?

1245
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,240
Yeah, you want to bring it up?
Yeah, I'll bring it up.

1246
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:02,560
Bring it up bro.
Rob Snyder.

1247
01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:05,440
Rob Snyder.
Hey, guy.

1248
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,040
Well, sending me messages.
So while you're while we're

1249
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,640
waiting on that, I want to
announce something a little bit

1250
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,880
of a change that's going to
happen with the show here.

1251
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,880
Starting January 1st.
I'm going to backseat some of my

1252
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:23,240
major research for some of the
episodes on this show.

1253
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:28,240
So we're going to be leaning
heavily on guests and you know,

1254
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:32,160
having some some bigger names
from the community come on to

1255
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:36,360
the show.
I need to take some time put to

1256
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:42,040
put aside for writing my book.
I, I, I would really, really

1257
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:47,320
like to have it out by July when
it come time for UFO days.

1258
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:52,320
I think that the more realistic
time frame will be for next

1259
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:57,560
year's or for 2026's UFO days,
but still would like to try.

1260
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:03,440
So just just know that once we
do the the two year anniversary

1261
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:07,360
episode on January 14th, which
is my birthday by the way, 200th

1262
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,520
episode on my birthday, that
will be the last episode where I

1263
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:16,680
dive into research heavily to
make sure that I have topics out

1264
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,880
on time for you guys.
For now on, it's just going to

1265
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:24,040
come as at whenever I can.
I'll always be researching a

1266
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:28,200
topic for you guys, but I won't
be able to dedicate as much time

1267
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:33,480
because I need to shift over
into author mode and get my

1268
01:14:33,480 --> 01:14:36,760
first book knocked out.
So just want to make sure you

1269
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,200
guys are all in the loop on
that.

1270
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,160
You guys are aware of the
changes coming to the show.

1271
01:14:42,440 --> 01:14:46,600
So this is the video that
Skeeter posted, right?

1272
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,400
I also want to sign copy.
If you don't give me a signed

1273
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,720
copy, I'm burning your house
down.

1274
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,040
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
We we should replay these, we

1275
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,200
should have Skeeter on and
replay these so that he can

1276
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,160
explain what's going on here.
Yeah, we should.

1277
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,400
Oh, there he is.
He's explaining it.

1278
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,840
Can't see the white.
I can see the one.

1279
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:06,320
Huh.
I love the.

1280
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:09,440
Area that we live in, in the
chat, it really doesn't show in

1281
01:15:09,440 --> 01:15:12,480
the video well.
The the area that we live in is

1282
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,200
is nuts, man.
I love it.

1283
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:16,960
We there's some really weird
shit that happens here.

1284
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:20,240
For those of you who don't know,
Skeeter I believe has nipples,

1285
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:21,840
so if you want you could
probably milk them.

1286
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:24,640
Interesting.
Yeah.

1287
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,280
It's unfortunate that we can
never get like a good clear

1288
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,960
video, man.
It's like, and it's nobody's

1289
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,000
fault, right?
Like you're not, nobody knows

1290
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:34,000
it's going to have, you can't
have a tripod and your nice

1291
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,920
camera setup ready for this
thing that you know, pop up and

1292
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,480
be in focus and all that shit.
So it's understandable, but it's

1293
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:44,760
like fuck.
You know, why are you yelling?

1294
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:47,520
What's what's going on?
I didn't hear any of that stuff

1295
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,800
that you just said.
I was reading the chat.

1296
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:53,400
It seems like Skeeter has a
pretty, pretty good record of

1297
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,040
seeing things in the sky.
Jake, maybe we just need to go

1298
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,960
out there and take a look one
day.

1299
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:03,160
Yeah, dude, road trip if he has
a guest measure and I can share

1300
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:04,720
it.
But the video sucks.

1301
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:12,800
It's yeah, man.
We'll have to get a good camera

1302
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,360
and zoom in on shit like that.
That'd be interesting.

1303
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,040
I want I want to see a light
split into multiple lights and

1304
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:20,440
then come back together.
That would be.

1305
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:23,600
Dude, Skeeter, even if you have
an expensive camera, like again,

1306
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:27,120
you, you have to be like, you
know, tripod out info because

1307
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,560
you have to know how you know
how far it's going to be, when

1308
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,040
it's going to be just to be
ready.

1309
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,480
Yeah, even with a good camera,
you're not going to get a good

1310
01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:36,200
shot of these things, man.
No, man, I love it too, Kendra.

1311
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,400
When are you going to come back
on the show?

1312
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,600
Keep keep us updated with these
videos Skeeter.

1313
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:45,240
Seriously, man, I, I know I
can't, I can't get back to you

1314
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:50,200
all the time.
Skeeter is one of one of the few

1315
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:54,480
listeners that we have a, a
private chat with and he he

1316
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:57,120
sends us some videos and
they're, they're pretty sweet

1317
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:58,120
man.
But what was that?

1318
01:16:58,480 --> 01:17:01,160
It was.
Some something, some some light

1319
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,520
in the sky, man for those who
died, said.

1320
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,360
Scary stuff, man.
What the hell was that?

1321
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:13,320
So Skeeter, if you want to
answer that, but from what I,

1322
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,120
from what I get from it, it was
just a, you know, strange,

1323
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,760
strange light in the sky that
split up into multiple lights.

1324
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:24,840
And yeah, Skeeter's, Skeeter's
been doing leg work for us, man.

1325
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:30,360
Can I send you my video and then
you screen share it?

1326
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,560
You can do it.
You can screen share it.

1327
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:38,000
You can screen share it.
Well, send it to send it to the

1328
01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:40,480
group chat.
Yeah, send it to the group chat.

1329
01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:41,920
See.
They probably came to.

1330
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:43,560
Folks are just going to have to
hang out for a bit.

1331
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:49,840
Yeah, like you guys, Jake has a
really, really cool video.

1332
01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:52,280
Was that that was in Virginia,
right?

1333
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:56,360
Yeah, that was on Oceana.
That's just to Trump's president

1334
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:57,960
back.
We're going to learn all to find

1335
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,000
this about the aliens.
So basically maybe.

1336
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:08,720
November 13th, man, they're
doing another, another Congress

1337
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:12,480
briefing and we should, we
should go live.

1338
01:18:12,480 --> 01:18:14,440
We should go live.
And that's the whole thing.

1339
01:18:14,440 --> 01:18:16,920
I still don't, you know, I say
this at every time we talk about

1340
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,600
UFOs, man.
I still think it's just

1341
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,520
propaganda leading us into like
a Project Bluebeam type

1342
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,360
situation, right?
And I don't know where I heard

1343
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:26,800
this.
I was listening to something and

1344
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,600
they were talking about Project
Blue Beam.

1345
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,960
And the guy made a good point.
He's like, you know, you have

1346
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,920
like the urban legend of Project
Blue Beam, which is the one that

1347
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,720
we know about, the holographic
images in the sky, blah, blah,

1348
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:38,840
blah.
Well, like, the real thing is

1349
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,480
probably not quite that, right?
It's going to be more of like

1350
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:45,200
what we're seeing in real time.
And he was saying that there was

1351
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:50,520
some intelligence person from
the CIA who in like 1999 said

1352
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,800
that, you know, he came out on
record saying like, hey, the

1353
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,000
next thing is going to be like
extraterrestrial threats.

1354
01:18:56,440 --> 01:18:57,560
And then you.
Want me to play it?

1355
01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,720
It was like, it's been 25 years,
so how's it going, right?

1356
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:06,880
Just to add some context.
So I was over on NES Oceana

1357
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,120
Naval Air Station Oceana, which
is a naval base.

1358
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:15,040
It's half Navy, half Marines.
But anyway, so in Oceana,

1359
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:21,240
Virginia, and we, I was out in
the smoke pit basically, I think

1360
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:26,000
a Zebo area outside of the
barracks and me and probably

1361
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,200
about 40 other people were
outside barbecuing.

1362
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,080
We were playing music and we all
saw this.

1363
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:35,880
And, you know, some people said
maybe it was parachutists,

1364
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,240
parachuters and things like
that, but they had flight OPS

1365
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,520
going on.
So I, I'm not certain about

1366
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,840
that.
And it was right over the base

1367
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:47,600
and no one in the aviation
community knew what was going

1368
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,240
on.
No one had like, even like the

1369
01:19:49,240 --> 01:19:52,080
helicopter guys that were there
weren't like, yeah, you know,

1370
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,920
this was obviously, you know,
plan and stuff like that.

1371
01:19:55,920 --> 01:19:58,360
We knew we were going to be
dropping parachuters out, but

1372
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:03,520
this was right over our our base
and it was, it was pretty dope.

1373
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,160
But like if the video had
continued, it was just a bunch

1374
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,560
of people like, well, what the
heck is that?

1375
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:12,080
Was that right type stuff?
So anyway, yeah.

1376
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,560
Sweet, you ready?
Yep, go for it.

1377
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:17,320
Yeah, I've seen some weird stuff
around military bases, but that

1378
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:18,840
was the only one that I got to
record.

1379
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:24,760
I saw something that was silver
metallic, like I, I couldn't

1380
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:27,440
tell you what it was.
There was a, it was reflecting

1381
01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:30,480
the sunlight and stuff, and it
was just sitting right over one

1382
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:32,480
of the hills over in Southern
California.

1383
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:35,640
Was over there in station in
Point Magoo in Ventura, CA.

1384
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:40,320
But I was driving right when I
saw it, so I wasn't able to just

1385
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,240
whip out my phone to start
recording it and stuff like

1386
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:43,840
that.
Like it was, it was kind of

1387
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,160
weird.
But yeah, I've seen definitely

1388
01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:51,000
seen some stuff around military
bases, but that's the only video

1389
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,640
that I have of like, you know,
the weird stuff and, you know,

1390
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:56,360
honestly, like, like, I'll be
real.

1391
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,640
Like it could be explained away.
Like, you know, there could have

1392
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,920
been some OPS going on or
something like that.

1393
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:06,840
And they were in fact Seals or
whatever and they had flares on

1394
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,440
their, on their stuff.
But I, I think that generally

1395
01:21:09,440 --> 01:21:12,520
the flares are red.
They're not white, but also like

1396
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,360
you said.
They don't.

1397
01:21:13,480 --> 01:21:15,800
They do not do it during flight
OPS.

1398
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,360
Right.
So we had jets going and all

1399
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,400
sorts of stuff.
It was just really very strange.

1400
01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:25,320
And I was like, so you could
explain it, but for, for

1401
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,600
everyone that was sitting there
from all different squadrons

1402
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,120
just at this barracks, it was
just kind of weird, you know,

1403
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:34,320
they were like, I don't know of
anything going on right now.

1404
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:40,760
Yeah, I I don't, I don't buy the
IT was just some some random

1405
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,760
flight UPS.
I agree with Gator swamp swamp

1406
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,040
gas reflecting off of Venus.
That's probably exactly what it

1407
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:47,760
was.
Yep.

1408
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:54,360
Yep, Spoiler alert, everybody.
All right, well, that has been

1409
01:21:54,360 --> 01:21:56,160
another episode of the Infinite
Rabbit all.

1410
01:21:57,400 --> 01:22:00,560
Do you guys have anything else
to put out before we sign off

1411
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,680
for the night?
Yeah, I mean, if you guys would

1412
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,680
just ten of us in the chat still
here, if we could all just do me

1413
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:14,680
a favor, hop on over to Shadow
Band Pod on Twitch, me a couple

1414
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,480
of follows over there.
I will be live on Tuesday,

1415
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:23,840
Tuesday night, 8:00-ish Eastern.
Kids always there for those who

1416
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,800
dies usually there.
That's all I got, Danny says.

1417
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,560
Truly awesome.
And don't milk Bigfoot or if you

1418
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:35,240
do videos, just saying.
Can't promise that.

1419
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,920
Shadow band pod here.
I'll just I'll chat in the in

1420
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,760
the thing, Danny, and you could
just click on my name in the

1421
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,720
chat and it'll bring you to my
page, Jeff.

1422
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:48,520
What are you going to have me on
Shadow band?

1423
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,280
When are you going to have me on
Shadow Band?

1424
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:52,120
You want to come on Tuesday?
What time?

1425
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,360
8 Eastern.
Is 7 for us?

1426
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:00,840
Hi.
Oh, I'll hit you up beforehand.

1427
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:04,800
Well, we still have to figure
out we're going to do a

1428
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:09,240
crossover event.
We got to, we got to get Creamer

1429
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,520
involved in that too.
Hell yeah.

1430
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:16,280
Thanks, Danny.
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1431
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1439
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This has been another episode of

1440
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,600
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podcast.

1441
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:54,880
Next week we'll dive into Part 2
of the Murfreesboro Monster, and

1442
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,800
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1443
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:03,400
Until then, we'll see you right
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1444
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:07,040
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1445
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,160
Chad.
Bye.

1446
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To milk bye.
Or to milk in the Bigfoot.

1447
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1448
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1449
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