204. Sacred Geometry, Numbers, & Conspiracy w/ Special Guest Themor76

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Imagine that this slide higher
this point in time somewhere in

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the.
Past the timeline you put into

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this tangent, creating an
alternate 1985.

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Fortunate to you here, Einstein.
For everyone else.

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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole podcast.

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I'm your host, Jeremy, and today
we got special guests in the

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house.
We are going to dive down the

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conspiracy side of the infinite
Rabbit hole today.

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We do not have Jacob with us.
He from what I understand as a

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Boo Boo, I don't know exactly
what it is, something with his

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back.
Hopefully he's all right.

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But we do have old EF free here
with us.

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Jeffrey, what's going on, dude?
Just gelling bro kind of full

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right now.
I just had big old fat slice of

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fresh baked bread and I covered
it with olive oil and fresh.

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That was my snack.
It was did.

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You toast it.
No, it was fucking fresh baked.

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You don't have to.
You took you took fresh baked

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bread and you drizzled olive oil
on it.

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You didn't make it soggy.
No, no, no, dude, I got the the

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butt piece so it's like nice
crispy.

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It was fucking perfect bro.
Don't question dude.

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I'm I'm a fucking gourmet chef,
dude.

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You don't know about me.
You don't know me.

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Gourmet.
That's a big word.

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Anyways, the more is our guest
today, the more what's up dude?

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Hello hello hello, welcome to
conspiracy land.

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Rabbit hole, huh?
Hell yeah, man.

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Infinite rabbit hole.
Let's go.

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Let's see how deep this infinite
really is.

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But the people from the chat
will know you, you've hung out

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in the chat quite a few Times
Now and you definitely see that

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you're you're absent from the
chat tonight, used to seeing

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your name over there, throwing
up some love for Jeff.

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Today's going to be a a good
one.

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Today's going to be fun.
I'm not as deep as these two

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guys are into the conspiracy
things, but I I'm versed in it,

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Jeff.
Jeff said I was well versed in

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it, but you know, I don't know.
I I I wouldn't necessarily

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describe myself as well versed
in conspiracy, but I can hold my

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own.
You know, you know, The thing

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is, is like, you know enough,
you know, there's The thing is,

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if I to me, a true conspiracy
theorist, right?

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And I take that term honestly
with like a badge of honor.

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I know some people try to like
push themselves away from that

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term or whatever.
I wear it like a badge of honor.

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Now, I think a real true
conspiracy theorist is not one

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who believes any of these crazy
things necessarily, but at least

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is open to entertaining the
ideas.

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And, you know, we could go down
the list and at least like name

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the project or name the
organization or name the person

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and like, you know who these
people are and shit.

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Right?
Like you can kind of, you can

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see the web.
So yeah, you're, you're well

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versed.
You see the web.

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I.
Wouldn't I?

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I think I'm versed.
We'll test.

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We'll test me today.
We'll see if I'm well versed,

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possibly we'll get a we'll get a
conspiracy grade from Jeff and

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the more today see possibly.
Man, and you know, you asked

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about like talking about 911 or
anything in particular.

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And I, you know, I don't like to
put myself in a box necessarily

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doing these shows on my show.
I usually just kind of shoot

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from the hip, right?
So I think that's a good idea.

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So I guess really what I would
ask is does anybody here know of

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anything that's happened
recently in the last week that

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or anything has been on your
mind in particular that is like

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something you want to talk
about?

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So I think it's official.
Jeff wants to talk about the

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fires.
That's what he's trying to push

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right now.
You can see through his lies.

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Everybody look at them.
Look at them.

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I haven't even been, I haven't
even been paying attention to

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the fires.
However, I did talk to Old Scary

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World last night for two hours
about about the fires and like

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smart city initiatives and all
the Great Reset and all that

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shit.
It was pretty, pretty good

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conversation.
Yeah, Were you on a show?

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Now he came on.
We did a impromptu live last

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night.
Oh, no shit, man.

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Cool.
Well, why don't we?

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Why don't we leave it up to the
guest, man?

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Let's see what?
See what our guest wants to talk

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about.
Guess the more.

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What do you want to talk about,
Dean?

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Yeah, thanks, man.
So the first thing that comes to

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mind when you guys were talking
there is the idea of the I want

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to Believe poster in the back,
right?

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Like a good conspiracy theorist
understands that you're going to

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have a bias, right?
You want to believe.

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Not that, you know, that's not
saying I know something back

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there.
That's saying I want to believe.

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Meaning give me all the
information available and let's

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evaluate it.
We'll go from there, right?

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You know, put all your cards on
the table.

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Let's see what they are.
Then maybe we can piece this

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together.
We can figure out what happened,

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right?
Like a good, good story or a

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good book.
There's lots of parts to it.

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You skip to page 58.
You missed the beginning, the

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middle, and now you're trying to
figure out what happened.

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You're not going to know, right?
You're on page 58.

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You have to read what happened
before or to, you know, give it

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context to give it
understanding, right.

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So I think for conspiracy
theorists in general, there's

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something that usually happens
when they recognize that they're

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no longer in a state of
believing they've grown up and

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they're able to prove something,
right.

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So I think it starts with all of
us like Santa Claus, right?

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It's a very obvious and
straightforward example.

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Santa Claus.
Well, I always wanted to believe

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in Santa Claus, therefore I
believed in Santa Claus.

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But we knew that that want
wasn't enough.

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We had to have proof or evidence
of Santa for Santa to be real.

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And we're disappointed, right?
So we have come across these

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stories, these ideas that are
being given to us.

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We evaluate them, you know, we
take them at take them at face

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value.
We try to get other people's

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opinions, other sources, more
information, then we try to draw

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some sort of conclusion.
But if you're in the game long

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enough, you're going to come
across something that you can

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actually demonstrably,
empirically prove, and you're

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going to go, oh, wait, this is
no longer about belief.

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There are people lying.
I know they're lying.

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They're lying straight face to
me and they're taking my money

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for these lies.
And then you feel a little

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different about it, right?
And you can brush that off to,

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to say, you know, that's just
the way the world works.

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You know, that's just the way it
is, You know, deal with it where

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you can go, well, this, this is
wrong, right?

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And then you can take it upon
yourself to have a moral issue

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with the way things are being
done.

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And then you're in a different
position then, right?

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You're almost in a
confrontational situation where

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you're at war, right?
The Alex Jones, you know,

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they're turning the frogs gay.
You know, the idea is that

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they're literally trying to
attack you all the time.

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And one of the things that came
up and we were talking before we

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launched the show was this
George Soros, right?

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Who is this character George
Soros?

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How long has he been doing what
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And why do we as conspiracy
theorists associate his name

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with not so good things?
On the other hand, he's in the

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White House getting what the the
Medal of Freedom.

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Yeah.
What are your guys's thoughts on

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George Soros?
Is this a a character of legend?

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You know, what do we know about?
I mean, his his name.

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If you pulled up George Soros,
you'd find 10s of thousands of

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different articles written over
the last 20 years about this

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guy.
Yeah.

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This guy is like Sam.
Yes, like a very popular name to

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be thrown around at a lot of
different events.

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So what?
What are your thoughts on George

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Soros?
Jeff, you want to go first, man?

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Well, so I probably probably
know about as much about George

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Soros as the next mother fucker,
to be completely honest with

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you.
Now, I've heard a lot of really

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shitty things about George
Soros.

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Now I'm the first one to
question all the narratives.

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So, you know, I don't really buy
into the draw.

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I lie.
I joke about it a lot, right?

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Like, I'll, it's like the thanks
Obama thing, right?

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Like everybody does that when
you're walking around and the

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milk's fucking $27.00.
Like thanks Obama.

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You know, so I do like the, the
Soros thing because it's kind of

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like laughing at both sides of
the, the issue.

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However, I do think that there
is something to the moving of

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the of the money to like fuck
around with like countries and

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like these like these refugees
and fucking around with that

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kind of stuff like global
turmoil thing.

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But again, I don't really know
much.

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I've only heard these types of
things, so I'm open.

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I think on the surface, George
Soros is a douchebag.

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That's, that's a, that's my
surface answer, right?

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He controls the world's
narrative.

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It seems he he owns every media
outlet that you can think of,

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CNN probably being the biggest
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But I'm going to be honest with
you, I, I don't, I don't know if

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he's actually the guy.
I think he might just be a

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figurehead.
There we go.

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So that's got to give me some
conspiracy points, right?

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I'm, I'm looking behind the guy,
the guy, right?

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Everyone believes that the, the,
the president is the actual

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president of the United States,
right?

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He's the guy that does all the
all the things and he makes all

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the decisions and changes all
the other things and makes other

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decisions.
But really, like, once you Start

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learning about the stuff like
the more was talking about and

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you start seeing things for what
they are, you start realizing

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that the president really
doesn't do shit right.

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They're they're, they're a
controller, right?

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They're they're a controller for
your favorite gaming console, if

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you will.
Somebody is is putting the

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inputs into the controller and
they're getting the outputs on

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their screen and they're getting
exactly what they want.

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A lot of people think that that
that controller is George Soros.

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I don't think it is.
I think George Soros is just

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another, you know, video game
controller.

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I don't, I don't think he's
really the guy.

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I mean, look at him.
He's I mean, you know, I'm not

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trying to talk shit about old
people, but I know that the

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guy's Uber rich.
But he, I just don't, I don't, I

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just don't see how he's got that
much power to do what he does.

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I don't know.
Does that make sense?

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Yeah, I think what you're what
you're trying to digest is the

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amount of narratives that have
been put out with his name.

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Yeah, it's it's really like
you're saying he controls the

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media.
The media, he's frontline

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center.
As far as his name in the media,

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they use it all the time.
He's like 9394 years old right

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now.
So let's be real about his

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capacity at this point in his
life, right?

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But we know that he has a a
history of being a financial

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success, right?
Made a lot of money.

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It's not very clear how he did
that.

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You know, was it really, you
know, like a Warren Buffett

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story kind of thing?
It's not as well documented, so

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to speak, on how George Soros
made all his money.

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But we know he's super wealthy.
Like you're saying he gets

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identified most within
conspiracy circles of crisis

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actors.
If you say crisis crisis actors,

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you're saying, oh, that's a
Soros funded program, right?

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That's like what everybody will
like commonly say because that's

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what mainstream narrative is,
right?

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Like it's out there so much that
most people have this feeling

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about George Soros of
negativity, but they're not

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sure.
Like they can't tell you what

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what he did.
Like, he's a bad dude, but what

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did he do?
You have any proof that he's

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paying people to lie?
Like, I mean, that's a bold

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claim that even mainstream media
is spinning.

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So you recognize it.
Like, there's a whole lot of

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different stories about this
guy, and they're creating a

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boogeyman, someone to hate,
right?

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Yeah.
It's not the CIA.

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It's not Central Intelligence.
It's George Soros, a banker that

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has to his own agenda,
manipulating the politics and

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politicians funding fake events
to support one political agenda

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or another.
Like Black lives Matter, George,

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throw us his name will be
attached, right?

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These these social economic kind
of movements, you know, the Wall

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Street one that seemed very
suspicious, right?

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Occupy Wall Street seemed a very
suspicious kind of, you know,

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narrative as well as involvement
by the community.

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Like, what do you mean, Occupy
Wall Street?

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This doesn't even make any
sense.

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How are you going to Occupy Wall
Street?

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What are you talking about here?
What are we going to do?

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Soros, right?
That must have been a Soros

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thing.
Yeah.

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LGBTQ.
That must be a Soros thing,

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right?
Sponsoring these social

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narrative movements of division
anytime we're, we're trying to

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look at dividing people.
He would be a name associated

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with doing this.
So we have someone to blame that

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it's not a bigger agenda, It's
an individual, right?

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Like it's a way to contain the,
the, the, the responsibility

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for, for a massive program,
right?

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I mean, they're basically saying
that he's a next level MK Ultra

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operative, right?
Like this guy is out there to

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fuck with your mind and he's
putting his money actively

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towards doing it.
How is he making money towards

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doing that right?
Yeah, well, you know, if you ask

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me, my, my opinion would be that
it would be something like same

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thing with Epstein where you
have the figurehead Epstein,

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Soros and the money is actually
intelligence money that's being

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funneled through.
And they are just like a either

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a honey pot or a psyop or like,
you know, if there is, The thing

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is, I'm sure somebody has done
the tracking of the money,

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right?
To be like, oh, look, this money

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did come from Soros or Soros's
foundations and into these like

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programs on some level, right?
That doesn't necessarily mean

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that he's like in on this big
agenda do that, right?

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Because he's got a lot of money
and it's moon in a lot of

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places.
But somebody's done that and

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they've at least connected a few
of those dots.

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So then I'm questioning like,
OK, is this like CIA feeding

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money through him to 'cause this
shit to happen so that the blame

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doesn't fall on CIA?
But I don't know.

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That would make sense, right?
I mean, it's logical to to

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assume that there is no personal
benefit for this individual to

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be involved in all these
different narratives, right?

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Like what?
How?

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Why is he making money?
How is he making anything money

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off of crisis actors?
Like how?

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The only way that I can think of
is through advertisements on his

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networks, right?
Because the guy owns a lot of a

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lot of networks, from what I
understand.

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I'm trying to find it, trying to
find a list of all the networks

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that he owns.
I just can't find it.

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Google's failing me today.
Just.

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Pull up George Soros wiki page.
It'll give you everything I.

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Probably should, huh?
That makes sense.

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I, I, if you go by, I don't
know, man, investments, I have

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no idea because he's, he, he's
not making enough money to do

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what he does off of
advertisements on CNN, right?

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And there has to be some kind of
real push behind the reason why

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he's drawing up the narratives
that he does, right?

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The, the narratives of the world
are all controlled by by the

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news networks for the most part,
right?

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Somebody is, is writing up their
scripts and and making them say

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things or having them say
things, paying them to say these

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things, which we it seems like
the world's becoming more and

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more aware of it, but we know
isn't necessarily true.

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In fact, we know a good portion
of what comes out of the

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figureheads mouths or talking
the talking heads on on most

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mainstream news networks is
complete bullshit.

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But somebody's making them say
that.

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And by making them say that, you
can see that there is a

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absolutely shit ton of people
that will eat every single word

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out of these people's hands.
And I don't know, I don't know

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if the money's maybe the money's
coming from, you know, multiple

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different parties that are
trying to push agendas.

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And he's just like, hey, give me
an agenda to push and it'll go

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to the to the highest bidder.
Right.

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It's like he's a money manager,
but like his, whatever his

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portfolio, I guess that he's
managing his chaos.

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Right.
And he's like, hey, George Bush,

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you want to go to war with
Afghanistan and Middle East,

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bro?
He goes.

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You know that.
Could be, I'm with that.

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I mean that could be, but the
more what are you?

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What are you?
What are you thinking?

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Because I know you're like
leading us down some path here.

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So I'm curious, like I know I'm
intrigued.

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Yeah, I think, I think we can
try to understand it, but we'll

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never know, right?
This is a person that's been

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made to be in the public
profile.

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So what you're going to find is
nothing but contradictions,

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nothing but innuendo and
assumptions.

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You're not going to find any
concrete evidence of anything,

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only conjecture.
And I think that's the key here.

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And that's what I think is the
transition to Epstein is

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actually kind of smooth because
I feel it's a case of the same

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situation.
Like understand, you know,

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Epstein, what do we know?
Well, we've been given a whole

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bunch of narratives, but no
proof, right?

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There's no, if they actually
caught them doing this stuff,

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there would be people in the
mass in jail, from the

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transportation to accommodations
to eyewitnesses to like, people

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would be getting rounded up like
big time if they had any

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evidence whatsoever.
But we're given a narrative that

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all this stuff happened, that he
ended up in a jail cell and then

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he hung himself.
And it's a lot to buy, right?

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Like, for how little you're
given.

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But it's so believable because,
yeah, of course, you know, the

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evil, corrupt powers that be are
sick, well, worshipping

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monsters, right?
Constantly the narrative when it

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comes to these people.
So any story that reinforces it,

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you have to like seriously
question it.

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And I think Epstein's one that a
lot of so-called conspiracy

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theorists.
Oh yeah, Epstein, you know, of

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course, like Podesta, you know,
these people are disgusting.

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You know, like we can go through
the laundry list of people that

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were sort of incriminated in
that situation, but none of them

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got charges.
Yeah, Galaine is sitting in

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prison for procuring underage
children to nobody.

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Yeah, what kind of prison is she
sitting in?

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It's probably.
I think this is going to be to

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the Moore's point, is she
actually sitting in prison?

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Because there's no proof of
that.

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Like we didn't see, we didn't
even see her in the court

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hearing, right?
Because it was all just, they

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didn't allow cameras in there.
It was just artist drawing shit.

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If you ask me.
Some of the drawings didn't even

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look like her, right?
So it's like, you know, I think

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that's probably kind of what the
Moores getting at here is like,

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none of this even fucking
happened.

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I think I think we can all agree
and I think this would this

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probably go for, I would assume
hope or at least hope that this

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would go for basically everybody
in this fucking world is that it

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is absolutely incredible the
amount of protection that these

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people have because the Epstein
thing, the ditty thing, the

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Pizzagate thing.
I mean, if if anybody in you

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know, else that wasn't a
celebrity or a politician did

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any of this shit, they would've
been locked away a long ass time

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ago.
But like, how long has the Diddy

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thing been out now?
That came out what, a year ago

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now?
Six months, 8 months, something

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like that.
Why are why do we not have the

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list of everybody that's been to
these fucking parties and why

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are they not put away?
We know it was full of fucking

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celebrities.
We know that it was full of some

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really big fucking names.
What?

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We don't know that.
Oh yeah, we do.

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Fuck that.
Yeah, we do stop.

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Well, come on.
I think that it is an important

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distinction of what we do know
in the ditty thing.

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I I am once again of the the
Epstein cloth that these

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narratives are being spun so
ridiculously often.

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We know that they're proven
sellers.

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People buy them because it's
believable narrative, you know,

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especially sexually explicit
content like this is, this is up

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everybody's alley, everybody's
buyer, this.

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And it's selling.
It in six ways from Sunday Man,

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podcast, mainstream, you name
it.

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Yeah, it's the rich man and and
this is something that old Scary

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World was talking to me about
last night.

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He kind of, it made sense to me.
It's like you see it with the

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fires, right?
It's like there's this and and

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you saw it with the Luigi
Mangione thing.

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It's like there's this sentiment
out there, you know, eat the

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rich, right?
And it's like, I think there's

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an element of that to these type
to this type of thing too,

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right?
When we talk about the Diddy,

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the Diddy situation, I'm not
saying nothing happened.

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I'm just saying, you know,
there's got to be at least some

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level of feeding the eat the
rich narrative with all that.

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Yeah.
So the P Diddy thing, is it Sean

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Combs, is it Puff Daddy or is it
P Diddy?

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It's all.
Is it none of or is it none of

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the above like so again, if
you're recording artists, you,

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the labels have proven time
again that they own you and your

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likeness and your image and the
music, right?

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So the a lot of these people was
Tupac really, was that really

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his name?
No.

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No.
So a lot of these characters are

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created.
A lot of these characters are

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created.
They have a story arc that, you

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know, and they go out with a
bang, right?

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The Puff Daddy, more people know
his name now than they ever

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have.
Like, that's just the bottom

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line.
And people are going to be

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playing his music forever, even
if it's just to look for clues

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of whether he did something
nefarious or if it plays into

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this, you know, idea that's
being spun of this character,

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right?
And it's very easy to vanish if

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people don't know your real
name, right?

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They don't call you that.
Yeah, that's true.

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So do you.
I don't think I think it's.

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Easy being famous as people.
Sure.

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Do you think or do you put any
stock behind like the I don't

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know how you explain this stuff,
but like there's the idea in the

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conspiracy world of like, hey,
you know, like when Kobe, when

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Kobe died, like hey, there was
like the Black Mamba thing going

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around.
It was like, hey, look at the

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day that he died and like
there's like numerology involved

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in gematria involved and like
this was a symbol, like a

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symbolic event.
So like, maybe he is alive or

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isn't like, do you put any
weight behind like the symbology

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of of these events?
Like, hey, P Diddy, The whole

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thing broke about P Diddy on
like this day.

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There's something there.
You asking me?

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I was asking the more because I
I don't know that you, I know

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you don't.
Yeah, you were looking to

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gematria rabbit hole.
Has gematria ever been something

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you looked into?
I have.

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I mean, again, only in passing
on the show, right?

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Like I've had people come on
here and like break stuff down

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for me and it's interest me for
long enough till the next guest

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came on and I was able, you know
what I mean?

452
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:32,640
Like yes and no.
I personally think it's too easy

453
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,800
to.
Draw lines between numbers.

454
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,600
I think if you if you look at
something, you make a number out

455
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,960
of it.
It's too easy to just pick

456
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,600
anything in this world to draw a
line to, you know, be like 911.

457
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:51,120
Well, that's exactly eight
months and three days away from

458
00:24:51,120 --> 00:24:54,360
my birthday.
So that must mean that I have,

459
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,400
you know, some kind of
connection to this because eight

460
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,400
and three is 11:00 and 11:00,
one plus one, the two digits and

461
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,000
11 = 2.
But really, if you look at it as

462
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,200
one number.
No, but there's one.

463
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,400
There's like equations that are
that are stuck to.

464
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,240
It's not random, but I get what
you're saying.

465
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,720
I mean, I guess, I guess I got
to know it a little bit better,

466
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,720
but.
About to get wrecked I want.

467
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,800
To hear this, holy shit, you're
the reincarnation of Lucifer,

468
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,160
aren't you?
As if these numbers mean

469
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,080
something, right?
Like I'm with you guys, like

470
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,760
let's not make too big a deal
out of this.

471
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,240
But obviously there are
communicating in numbers because

472
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,760
numbers is a language and
there's very intelligent people

473
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,720
that see the world in numbers.
That's just how they see the

474
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,640
world, right?
And we've come across them.

475
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,040
They're like math gurus or math
geniuses.

476
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,960
They apply numbers to
everything.

477
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,640
And this is just how the world
who works for them.

478
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,360
You know, other people are
artistic, you know, other people

479
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:54,840
have no common sense, but they
might be professional, you know,

480
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,880
ping pong player or something.
You know, it's like we we all

481
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,320
have different sets of skill
sets and, and they try to

482
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,000
communicate to all the different
profound individuals.

483
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,240
Here's a simple language that
you'll understand, right.

484
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,160
So the mathematics people that
are very intelligent, yes, they

485
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,400
want to keep them in the loop.
They'll put their numerology or

486
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,440
the basic numbers within the
story within the information

487
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,960
that that is being presented
sometimes visually and sometimes

488
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,760
in in text, right.
So, so yes, there is numerology

489
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,400
being used to communicate very
specific message whether they're

490
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,120
taking credit for something or
something else.

491
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,040
I remember when I come across
probably the most prolific code

492
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,960
that they use is 19.
So code 19, it's mentioned in

493
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,840
the Quran, but I think everybody
identifies it because these are

494
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,600
all the real numbers, one
through 9, right?

495
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,720
So 0 is not a real number.
You cannot have nothing.

496
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,040
Either there is something or
there is nothing.

497
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,640
In order to count, you have to
have something, right?

498
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,240
So you skip 0 and you have one
through 9 and it basically is

499
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,600
your beginning and your end,
right?

500
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,040
This is the Alpha and the Omega,
the beginning and the end.

501
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,480
So this number is represented in
nature as the flower of life

502
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,680
with 19 circles, right?
So you draw 19 circles and you

503
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:20,320
end up with the flower of life.
So it's also a numerical thing

504
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,200
that points to the grand
architect, right?

505
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,240
The idea that, OK, what is the
19th?

506
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:36,840
I think it's G anyway.
No, it's not GT.

507
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,760
Anyway, the idea, I don't know
why that came to my mind.

508
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:48,680
I looked into it.
S the infinite, the S So yeah,

509
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,400
code 19.
Obviously, we know Rona 19.

510
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,760
We know 19 hijackers on 9/11.
And some of these are some of

511
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,840
the bigger, more obvious events
that we can late 19 with.

512
00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:08,120
But the 19 turns into 33 when
you turn those 19 into a cube,

513
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,960
33 circles makes the cube or the
squaring of the circle.

514
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,800
So when I came across this was
like, oh, OK, so we're using 19

515
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:22,040
and 30 threes as part of
understanding nature in reality

516
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,280
and imprinting.
OK, a higher level of knowledge

517
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,880
is being conveyed here.
Like, yes, we the most

518
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,760
intelligent people here on earth
are well aware of what this is

519
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,920
and what it isn't, and we're
communicating that.

520
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,400
So as you become more familiar
with how these numbers associate

521
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,480
with reality, you'll start to
see that, OK, they're putting

522
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,200
their fingerprint on this
information too to to say, OK,

523
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,640
you guys, you know, you more
intelligent people, don't worry

524
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,720
about it.
You guys that are believing any

525
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,720
of this nonsense, you know you
won't see it.

526
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,320
It's, you know, the idea that
the truth in plain sight.

527
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,920
Well, not everybody can see,
right?

528
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,920
You can show a picture to
somebody and you go, yeah,

529
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,680
that's that's proof of Flat
Earth.

530
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400
And somebody else will say, what
are you talking about?

531
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,840
It's nothing, right?
The same picture, right.

532
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,680
So the I'm going to.
Ask you about one day.

533
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,440
So the idea that, you know, we
have to be aware of the

534
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,080
different ways they're
communicating in order to

535
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,200
identify them.
And as you learn more about the

536
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,280
sun, the moon, the stars, the
cycles of those, you know, the,

537
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,200
the year, I think the sun is on
a 3332 year cycle or something.

538
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,280
That's where you're 30 twos come
in, you're 28 days on the lunar

539
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,600
cycle.
There's a 13 months cycle.

540
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,120
You know, all these numbers are
how, how we've created our

541
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,480
clocks, right?
How we've structured time and

542
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,520
our reality.
So I don't want to like be

543
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,840
little numbers, but I do think
that people get a little crazy

544
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,160
with them too.
Yeah, I mean, I'm super

545
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:03,840
fascinated by that kind of
stuff.

546
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,720
Are you familiar with Micah
Dank?

547
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:07,920
No.
What is?

548
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,000
We should get Micah on the show.
We can for sure.

549
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,560
Jake would hate that.
He would fucking rage quit so

550
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,040
hard.
So Micah talks a lot about Astro

551
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,080
theology, right?
And how like the, the, the sky

552
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,640
clock is what I call it right?
For the dummies, the smooth

553
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,240
brains out there, like me, the
sky clock basically is, you

554
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,320
know, the zodiacs and the the
dates and the times and like all

555
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,040
of the secret knowledge that was
passed on through generations

556
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,720
and through religions and, and
all these stories and shit.

557
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,680
That was all just ways for them
to kind of keep track of the sky

558
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,360
clock.
And only like the Super elite

559
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,520
really know and understand the
sky clock and, and the things

560
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,160
that happen on certain intervals
and like they're still doing it

561
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:54,440
today, in my opinion, right?
That So when this shit happens,

562
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,600
it's it's kind of like what
you're saying.

563
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,120
It's like they're, I don't know,
I just kind of lost my train of

564
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,880
thought, but.
So from the from the eclipses,

565
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,120
knowing exactly when eclipses
are going to happen right to

566
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,160
other phenomena like comments,
Haley's comment, other, other to

567
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,760
meteor showers, feeding meteor
showers, other meteor showers.

568
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,000
This stuff is happening in a
pattern and the pattern is

569
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,840
identified numerically.
And yes, they're well aware of

570
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,920
these things that are unique to
our sky, and the rare ones are

571
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,680
celebrated.
And yes, these events will

572
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,760
correlate with the celebration
of these changes, right?

573
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,240
One of the major changes Age of
Aquarius into the age of

574
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,080
whatever, right?
So your ages will be celebrated

575
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,320
in different ways.
Your lunar and solar events will

576
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,280
be celebrated in different ways.
Are you a believer in the sky

577
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:51,960
clock at all?
Astro Theology.

578
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,000
I don't know how far Astro
theology goes.

579
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,680
Yeah, this.
Everything in the sky is doing

580
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,600
incredible patterns, geometric
patterns, perfect circles for

581
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,760
all the stars around Polaris and
24 hours a little bit less,

582
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,760
never changing.
And you know, like I was saying,

583
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,960
the moon is clock, 28 day cycle,
perfect cycle.

584
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,760
Sun is a clock, you know, does
the exact same thing all the

585
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:22,000
time.
So the precision of the sky and

586
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,680
the reliability of the sky is
obviously how we've constructed

587
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,920
our whole idea of time.
It's all, it's all based on

588
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,960
that, whether it's months, days,
years, minutes, seconds, all of

589
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,360
it.
Yeah, it's interesting to me

590
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,920
because, you know, back in in
ancient days, they would use

591
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,880
that knowledge, just like you
said, of a comet that is super

592
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,200
rare, whatever it is, to control
populations, as I would say,

593
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,200
right?
Like, you know, generals or

594
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,560
emperors or whatever.
They would send the armies to go

595
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,440
wait, you know, over the hill
for months because they knew

596
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,480
that, you know, a comet was
going to come through that only

597
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,480
comes once every whatever.
And then once that comic came,

598
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,880
like they knew, hey, like that
would symbol to the enemy that

599
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,920
their gods were angry or some
shit, right?

600
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,960
Like, you know, you get what I'm
saying.

601
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Like they would utilize these
events or like for for human

602
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,760
sacrifice events, right?
They would wait.

603
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,320
Not all cultures.
Some cultures would do this shit

604
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,400
all the time, but some cultures
would wait till like blood moons

605
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,240
or whatever the case was to do
these sacrificial rituals.

606
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,840
Because the people who had no
idea that these events were

607
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,720
about to happen, when it did
happen right after a sacrificial

608
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,360
ritual, they'd be like, Oh my
God, it's real.

609
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,640
So I think that the the elites
are still using it today.

610
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,480
But since we know more about
time now as a civilized culture,

611
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,320
they're doing it in other ways.
Like they're just communicating

612
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,040
that, hey, we still carry this
knowledge by example.

613
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,200
Taking out Kobe on such and such
a day with helicopter number

614
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,160
whatever, right?
Kobe knew about all this stuff

615
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,320
too.
He was.

616
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,360
He was definitely well aware.
Yeah, Kobe faked his death.

617
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,640
There is no helicopter crash in
Calabasas that didn't happen.

618
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,840
There's no bodies, there's no
helicopter, there's nothing

619
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,840
there.
Just look at the crash site for

620
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,440
sure.
Man, I don't know.

621
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,000
I've seen pictures, man.
I know.

622
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,400
I know pictures are getting
faked.

623
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,840
I know, I know.
But I've seen fucked up shit

624
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,560
from that.
But back to numbers.

625
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000
I find numbers fascinating, but
I definitely don't find them

626
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,679
fascinating in the same way that
you guys look at them.

627
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,400
I look at them from, you know, a
scientific point of view.

628
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,400
And I look at things like my the
19th circle thing, the flower of

629
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,400
life.
I've heard of the flower of

630
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,040
life.
I have no idea that it was, it

631
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,800
was a combination of 19 circles.
It's very interesting.

632
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,520
That is a that is a very
predominant pattern in a lot of

633
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:44,760
like geometric studies.
I guess that's the best way that

634
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,719
I can explain that.
But one of one of my absolute

635
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,480
favorite things in the world is
the golden ratio, right?

636
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:56,360
Some people know it as the
golden spiral and it is 1.618.

637
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:01,040
And if anybody, if you ever seen
like a conch shell or anything

638
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,800
that makes a spiral in nature,
they all follow this, this, It's

639
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:11,200
incredible how they all follow
the same spiral pattern with the

640
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,160
same degree of bend OR change.
I'll bring it up for for anybody

641
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,960
who doesn't know what the the
golden ratio is, this is the.

642
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,280
Flower of life right here.
Yeah, it is that that was pretty

643
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,960
interesting.
But I'm going to be honest with

644
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,400
you, man, I don't, I personally
don't believe that the puppet

645
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,120
masters of this world are
following anything to do with

646
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,120
numbers.
I know that there's this, you

647
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,000
know, the big theory about, you
know, like Satanic cults and how

648
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,120
they need to tell you before
they do it or they need to tell

649
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,560
you what they're doing because
that's part of their belief

650
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,440
systems and that they, they
follow, you know, specific

651
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,680
dates.
Everything's symbolized down to

652
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,040
dates times, the amount of
people that are doing something,

653
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,120
the amount of countries that
signed this tree or whatever,

654
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,600
right?
I don't personally see that as

655
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,240
important.
I think that if you look at

656
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:06,400
something like the golden ratio,
I wish I'll bring up here in a

657
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,280
minute.
And I'm not, I'm not a religious

658
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,000
person, but I look at things
like the golden ratio and how

659
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,200
well numbers and math works out,
especially, you know, as we

660
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:24,160
unravel the, the, the script of
nature, if you will.

661
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,840
I find those numbers extremely
interesting.

662
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,840
And if they were, let's say if
if the the bad people were were

663
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,480
working off of numbers on the
same line as nature, I think it

664
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,680
would make more sense.
But from everything that I've

665
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,600
heard, it just doesn't seem to
line up except for what you said

666
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,680
there with the moon phases.
I thought that was pretty

667
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,200
interesting.
And I actually.

668
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,720
I'm sorry, can you just repeat
what you said you thought about

669
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,760
the the flower of life?
What do you think it was you

670
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,800
said?
Some of you were like, I didn't

671
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,440
think it.
I don't.

672
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:01,040
I don't know, I, I feel like, I
feel like I lost something

673
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:01,800
there, but go ahead.
Sorry.

674
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,480
OK, damn it, now I don't know
where I was.

675
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,480
My bad bro, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry man.

676
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,240
I lost track of what you were
saying and I was trying to.

677
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:12,720
Catch me too.
Oh, oh, that's what I wanted to

678
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:16,840
talk about the moon phases.
While you guys were talking and

679
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,520
you had brought up the number
19.

680
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,200
I had to look into the number 19
just, you know, whenever

681
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,240
somebody brings anything up that
that sounds interesting, like

682
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:28,520
when you say, hey, there's a,
there's a thing with the number

683
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,680
19, the 19, right?
And then you brought up the 19

684
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,840
circles and the flower of life
and I was like, oh, wow, I've

685
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,880
seen that before.
That's a geometric pattern that

686
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,480
I'm familiar with.
It's very cool.

687
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,240
Let me look into this nineteen
thing.

688
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,000
And then you said something
about the moon phase has taken

689
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,640
28 days, right?
19 days one way, 19 days the

690
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,320
other way.
And I thought that that was very

691
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,080
interesting.
So I specifically looked up to

692
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,800
get information or to basically
Fact Check, right, and see if

693
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,520
that was true.
And I came across another

694
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:04,000
interesting moon fact with the
number 19.

695
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:10,240
According to the fax site.com,
it takes approximately 19 years

696
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,080
for the lunar phases of the moon
to appear again on the same day

697
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,280
of this of the year.
For example, the moon was full

698
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,800
on August 15th in both the years
2000 and 2019.

699
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,640
That's interesting.
See, that's that's where numbers

700
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,160
line up with nature, and I think
that that's very cool.

701
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:35,000
There you go, another 19.
So I'm, can you hear me OK?

702
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,440
I'm not lighting up very well.
Am I lagging?

703
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,840
Am I lagging?
I think you're hearing me lag a

704
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,560
little bit.
No, we can hear you fine.

705
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,560
OK, I'm not hearing.
OK, cool.

706
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,440
I just want to make sure that
I'm I'm good to talk.

707
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,280
So, yeah, definitely with the
numbers and, and nature is the

708
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,440
path we need to take to
understand how they're using

709
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,280
these numbers to communicate
their belief system or their

710
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,680
association of knowledge, right?
This is this is what sacred

711
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,800
geometry is really all about.
We talked about the 19 circles

712
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,440
and the flower of life.
What you'll find is Jeff, your

713
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,800
your little pendant thing.
There was a great example.

714
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,120
One of the most predominant
forms of nature and the

715
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,160
strongest geometric form is the
hexagon.

716
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,280
And what the 19 flowers, 19
circles ends up showing you is a

717
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,040
hexagon, right?
So this hexagon shape is found

718
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,680
all over nature, honeycomb,
right?

719
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,360
Basalt formations, turtles
backs, flies, eyes, perfect

720
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,800
geometric shape, right?
So the idea that, OK, this

721
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:45,720
flower of life is giving you
information about reality,

722
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,040
right?
And with the Fibonacci sequence,

723
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,280
where the golden ratio is
another very significant one,

724
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,920
right?
So we see the spiral of life or

725
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,440
the idea of the Fibonacci
sequence showing itself all over

726
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,640
nature like you're saying with
flowers, plant life, animals.

727
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,160
It's represented in in the human
body as well.

728
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,880
You want to look into the number
of vertebrae in your spine.

729
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,480
But this is also correlation to
numerology numbers and what

730
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,440
you'll find.
But the Fibonacci sequence is

731
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,880
interesting because this is
where I was going going with the

732
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:24,760
letter G The letter G or God or
the big G is a letter that is

733
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,680
telling you.
This is the Fibonacci sequence.

734
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,480
If you draw AG, you're drawing
the Fibonacci sequence, the

735
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,520
spiral of life and and where do
you find this?

736
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,920
G predominant?
The Freemasons, right?

737
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:42,320
What are they giving you?
The tool, the square and the

738
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,600
compass to draw circles and
straight lines, squaring the

739
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,080
circle.
What's at the middle of this?

740
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,160
The fingerprint of God himself,
the Creator, the Fibonacci

741
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,520
sequence, right?
That's right at the center.

742
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,760
So understanding the symbolism
behind what they're showing you,

743
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,840
a lot of people look at that and
go, yeah, yeah, whatever.

744
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,360
They're architects or something,
they're just tradesmen.

745
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:17,240
But if you understand how their
tools are used to identify real

746
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:22,240
things in nature, replicate
them, recreate them, you

747
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,920
understand.
Well, that's they're giving you

748
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,680
knowledge right there that
they're showing you.

749
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,640
Here's the Fibonacci sequence,
here's the square in the

750
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,320
compass, your vectors, your
measurements, and how you

751
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,560
identify that this place is
created.

752
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,440
That I think that underlying, we
all know that this place

753
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,800
probably has some sort of
purpose.

754
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,880
We're not all buying into The
Big Bang of nothingness to

755
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,560
something to random, you know,
single cells turning into us,

756
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,200
right?
We are the most intelligent life

757
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,400
form on this place, this
creation, and we're able to

758
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,240
figure these things out.
We're able to observe, measure

759
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,760
and test and prove things like
this cannot be by chance that a

760
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,440
fly's eyes have perfect
hexagons.

761
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,840
It's not by chance, right?
It's not by chance that all of

762
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,920
our senses work in harmony.
We can't identify how they work,

763
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,040
right?
But we know they do.

764
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,080
We can observe, measure, and
test to prove that they are

765
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,440
real, that our eyes work the way
they work, our hearing works the

766
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,200
way it sound works, the way it
works.

767
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,080
Light works the way it works.
And then when you recognize, oh,

768
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,800
OK, so some of these symbols
tell you more than what

769
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,480
mainstream tells you.
Like mainstream is lying to you

770
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,160
about all this shit.
You're like, oh, wait.

771
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,280
But if I look into what they're
telling me, then it's a

772
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,240
completely different story,
right?

773
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,240
Like what is light?
Is light a wave or a particle?

774
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160
This duality of light.
They can't even tell you what

775
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,800
light is, but they say that
light has a speed.

776
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,320
Well, how does light have a
speed if you can't tell me what

777
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,640
it is?
Right?

778
00:43:03,240 --> 00:43:06,520
They tell you, OK, a virus is
real.

779
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,440
Well, if you can't isolate a
virus and you can't show it to

780
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,720
me, then how's it real?
We have to be able to use the

781
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:15,800
tools we're given to observe,
measure and test reality.

782
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,920
And a lot of that is
communicated through math.

783
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,560
It's like, OK, here's here's,
here's mathematical

784
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,600
interpretation.
And that means that we're able

785
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,800
to count it.
And if we're able to count it,

786
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,920
that means it exists, right?
So it's a way of it's a, it's a

787
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,960
language of saying, you know, we
know some shit and they encode

788
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,600
it with, you know, hey, we know
some shit. 666 You think that

789
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,000
has anything to do with the
devil?

790
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,520
Or does it have to do with
knowing some shit?

791
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,800
Right?
And what's interesting to me is

792
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,160
that things like the flower of
life, that if you believe that

793
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,640
the narrative it was found in, I
think the oldest one was found

794
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,200
in Egypt in one of the ancient
temples. 56000 years old

795
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,840
according to their dating,
right?

796
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,600
I would say that's probably more
like 30,000 or something, or

797
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,040
300,000.
But they say at least 6000 years

798
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,160
ago, You know.
What the fuck did they know?

799
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,120
I just bought 3 books on sacred
geometry.

800
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Thank you, because it's
something that I haven't looked

801
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,600
into and it's a new subject to
me and of course I had to do

802
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,000
that.
Well, this is going to turn him

803
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,920
man, because you know what, man,
I'm not going to lie to you,

804
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,320
dude.
This is one of the things that

805
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:30,040
actually got me like like kind
of broke my me out of the matrix

806
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,480
is the best way.
Well, was getting into like

807
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,080
sacred geometry and like that
kind of thing.

808
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,040
I like the way that he's
approaching this stuff, right.

809
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,200
You get a lot of people who come
on or people that I've talked to

810
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:46,640
in the past that will will put
something in front of you and

811
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,320
say, you know, I'm and I'm not
trying to to use this against

812
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,160
you.
The more I'm just using this as

813
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,320
an example.
But like they'll come on and be

814
00:44:54,320 --> 00:45:00,480
like 911 was a hologram, right?
And I'll be like, OK, cool, How

815
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:02,320
do you know that?
And they'll be like, well, just

816
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:06,200
because it look, man, look,
that's a hologram and it's like,

817
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,200
man, it doesn't do it for me.
But when you break it down into,

818
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,760
into its smallest bits, right,
and you start to build it up.

819
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,480
This is this is going back to
what the more was saying very,

820
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,960
very early in, in the episode
when he was talking about the

821
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,640
poster up here, like you want to
believe, break it down into the

822
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,440
smallest things.
And that's how my mind works,

823
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,040
right?
So when you start talking about

824
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,720
things such as secret geometry,
when you're talking about how

825
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:32,600
the, the, the shapes of a, of a,
of a family's eye, and then you

826
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,560
start thinking about a whole
bunch of other things too,

827
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,360
right?
The flower of life just happens

828
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,320
to be a hexagon.
What else happens to be a

829
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,080
hexagon that we see in nature,
right?

830
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:45,000
What about the, the poles of, of
Saturn or poles of Mars, right?

831
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,480
We, we've, we've talked about
this a couple times here on that

832
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,000
this podcast before.
And Jeff, can you bring up a

833
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,960
picture of that of?
What?

834
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,480
The poles of I can't remember if
it was Mars or if it was Saturn.

835
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,400
I think it was Saturn, right?
The poles of Saturn, the clouds

836
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,840
or whatever they are, they make
this perfect hexagon.

837
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,120
It's it's, it's, it's incredibly
interesting how they do it or

838
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,880
how it's like that.
And you know, I know we've,

839
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,800
we've talked about multiple
times how look at that thing,

840
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,720
look at it.
That's fucking incredible.

841
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,600
Disclaimer, these are artists
renditions.

842
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,120
They are.
This is paint by numbers.

843
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,040
This is not real pictures of
space.

844
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,600
Correct.
But right, they, they, they do

845
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,760
the paint by numbers thing.
That's exactly what I was just

846
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,960
about to get into, is that, you
know, we've talked about this

847
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:39,560
multiple times here on the show
about how, you know, space is

848
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,520
fake.
And and, you know, it's not

849
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,720
necessarily something that I
believe, but I do know, I do

850
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:49,880
know that NASA takes information
that they, they're not actually

851
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,960
feeding you pictures, right?
They're they're feeding you

852
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,600
information.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

853
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,440
And they're they're faking gay.
They're they're doing the paint

854
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,560
by numbers thing and they're
putting it out as official

855
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,480
pictures, but it's really not
right.

856
00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:03,160
And we've talked about the Van
Allen.

857
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,360
But back to the hexagon.
Back to the hexagon.

858
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:11,320
Let's not go down there.
Listen, man, yes, you know, and,

859
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:14,720
and like, I like, I like talking
to Jake sometimes.

860
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,200
I mean, I like talking to Jake
all the time and you know, he's,

861
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:22,000
he's been trying to, to get me
to, to read the Bible and stuff.

862
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,440
And, and, and one day I, one day
I do want to read it, right?

863
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,440
It's, it's, it's part of my
curiosity.

864
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,680
I am curious of what it says
and, and how I'll interpret it.

865
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:37,720
But you know, it's, it's when
you, when you show me things

866
00:47:37,720 --> 00:47:42,840
like this, where there's
mathematics or, you know, these,

867
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:48,840
these equations in nature that
create these shapes and you know

868
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,320
what, what, what's 1 of the,
the, the one rules of nature,

869
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,960
one of the one laws of well,
not, I wouldn't say a law, but

870
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,600
the thing that you hear from
when you're a kid, right?

871
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,360
There's no straight lines in
nature.

872
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:05,080
But yet, you know, you see like,
like the more was talking about

873
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:10,200
the eyes of, of fly, right.
Well, there is straight lines of

874
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,400
nature there.
There's your, your example.

875
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,920
I feel like that is a better
piece of evidence for a creator

876
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,840
than someone telling me there's
a creator or somebody telling me

877
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,680
like, Hey, you should believe
this conspiracy theories or this

878
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,040
conspiracy theory because
there's a, there's this whole

879
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,960
ocean of people that also
believe it, right?

880
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,120
I mean, I, I don't know, explain
that very well.

881
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,080
I'm very eloquent on how you,
you know your position and, and

882
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,440
what you're looking for in your
journey, right?

883
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,120
All of us are looking for
different things in our journey

884
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,760
and when we come across proof or
a mind melting like hits you in

885
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,600
the face like, well, isn't that
obvious?

886
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,760
It changes the foundation in
which you stand, the ideas that

887
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,800
you build off of, right?
You're like, OK, so if this is

888
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,800
true about water or this is true
about light, therefore I can

889
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,200
apply it to everything I know
about water and light, right?

890
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,480
And it changes fundamentally how
you see the nature of your

891
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,480
reality and what it, what it is
and how it works.

892
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:16,520
So definitely looking into the
geometry, you know, so the

893
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,160
hexagon is, is an awesome one
because it really is everywhere.

894
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,560
And I think it's so fundamental
that the actual fabric of

895
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,720
reality is built off of it.
This formation, the it's the

896
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:31,800
so-called ether.
So they say that the bees can

897
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,480
start at any three points and
make perfect straight perfect

898
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,320
hexagons.
Now, if you've ever tried to

899
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,920
build anything using three
different reference points, this

900
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,680
is nearly impossible to map out
and project exactly where it's

901
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,240
going to be without using tools
to sort of mark where to start

902
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:51,400
right in, in three-dimensional
space.

903
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,480
So they can still can't figure
out how they do it.

904
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,560
Another thing they can't figure
out with bees is how they

905
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,600
actually fly in a straight line
back to the hive.

906
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,960
It's, it's, you know, they can
track the, these bees, no matter

907
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,480
where they get, where they go,
as soon as they're done, they

908
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:10,640
make a bee line to the hive.
That's where we get that

909
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,480
terminology bee line from.
They, they take a perfectly

910
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,760
straight line.
The Quran actually comments on

911
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,120
this and they say the bees take
God's roads.

912
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,640
So we have, we have a what's
called an electrical nature.

913
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,280
I don't want to call it an
electric universe.

914
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,960
That terminology sort of goes
too far.

915
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,160
But the electric grid on Earth
is well known.

916
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,960
We know that the higher you go,
the atmosphere becomes more and

917
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,920
more charged.
But the increase in voltage and

918
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:44,160
ampage, the higher we go, we
measure it directly, right?

919
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,560
And the ground is actually a
ground or a negative.

920
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,240
So you have everything above
earth is positive, everything

921
00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:53,160
below it is a negative.
This is the electrical nature of

922
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,880
reality.
But how does that grid actually

923
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,000
exist?
I think it's through hexagons.

924
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,040
Because some of the most
fundamental things like you see

925
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,920
with the salt flats, we the, the
Bolivian salt flats are

926
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,800
something like 4000 square miles
of flat land.

927
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,360
Some of the most amazing
photography you've ever seen in

928
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,240
your life has been taken in the
Bolivian salt flats.

929
00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:19,600
And what you'll notice is when
it dries up, the salt is forming

930
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,000
perfect hexagons on the ground.
The rocks, the salt formations

931
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,640
are forming perfect hexagon in
rock like I was talking about

932
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,600
with turtles backs.
It's also there.

933
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,360
So what is a pentagram?
What is what is at the center of

934
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,600
a pentagram?
The center of a pentagram or a

935
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,800
star is a perfect hexagon,
right?

936
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,320
So I think that what the NASA
was sort of alluding to is I

937
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,200
believe it's Saturn who
actually, over the course of its

938
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,880
journey throughout the sky
throughout the year, like the

939
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,280
Sun and Alema, I think it's
called, makes an Infinity

940
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:56,400
symbol.
Have you seen that?

941
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,240
The path of the sun over years
time and you mark it every day

942
00:51:59,240 --> 00:52:02,520
at the same time and it ends up
creating an Infinity symbol.

943
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,320
Yeah.
If you do that with Saturn, I

944
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:09,360
believe it creates a Pentagon
shape so that.

945
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,600
Yeah, I think I've seen that,
yeah.

946
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,120
The tracing of that the the the
movement of it ends up forming a

947
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,960
hexagon at its core.
You guys know about some?

948
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,040
Yeah, patterns developed by
sound waves.

949
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,160
Right, Jeremy, you're familiar
with this?

950
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,640
Yeah.
We, we've, we've talked about

951
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,680
this a couple times, I think.
I think this is very interesting

952
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:32,720
too.
So the thing that's interesting

953
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,240
to me just to kind of, I want to
just bridge it back to like the

954
00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:36,880
ancient, like our ancestors,
right?

955
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:38,800
Because I think there's
something really important about

956
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,920
like what they knew that it
seems like we don't now, right?

957
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,640
Well, some of us do, but not
generally speaking.

958
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,360
You know, when you if Jake was
here, you know, he would verify

959
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,520
this.
But like in the Bible it says,

960
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,760
and I don't know the exact
quote, but you know, God spoke,

961
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:56,680
right?
And he spoke this the universe

962
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,120
or life or whatever the words
are creation into existence,

963
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,440
right?
So in my opinion, that would be

964
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,920
a version of a vibration, like a
sound vibration, right?

965
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,400
And then when you think about
what here I Googled this just as

966
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:13,080
well, what does the ohm mean in
Hinduism, right?

967
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,800
When that's the symbol that you
see?

968
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,160
I don't have my screen shared,
but it's this other symbol on

969
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:22,080
this other pendant I have.
It's it's the classic ohm symbol

970
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:24,520
everybody knows about.
That is the sacred sound of the

971
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:29,120
universe, right?
It's a vibrational sound of the

972
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,760
universe.
And then when you look at like

973
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,280
the hexagon on top of Saturn,
right, And you look at cymatics

974
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,400
here, let me just share this
real quick because when I when I

975
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,720
flip between the two, it just
makes sense.

976
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,720
It clicks.
I'm probably going to like, you

977
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:52,160
see the the hexagon, right?
And then if I switch, it doesn't

978
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,000
let you switch immediately.
That's so lame.

979
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,440
Yeah.
And then Cymatics right here,

980
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,240
boom, it's the same thing,
right?

981
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:03,880
It's a lot of.
What you see when you look at

982
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,640
the stars for sure.
Yeah, when you.

983
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,000
Yeah, exactly when people are
like zooming in on stars with

984
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,440
telescopes or whatever, cameras
and shit like that, that you're

985
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,760
getting like that weird plasma
thing that everybody talks

986
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,720
about, it's a cymatic vibration.
And when you look into what a

987
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,760
hologram is, this is where, like
you get into holographic

988
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,240
universe stuff.
When you look at like just how

989
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:29,920
we make holograms, it's just
light and sound, right?

990
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,560
And they, they focus the light
beam and the sound and like, I

991
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,560
don't know, I'm not smart enough
to know exactly how it's done.

992
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:36,760
But that's pretty much all it
is.

993
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:41,440
And that's what the ancient
people, our ancestors believed,

994
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,000
that the universe was created
through sound, right?

995
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,680
And then light, right, let there
be light.

996
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,840
Like light and sound were the
two functions that created all

997
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,680
things in this universe.
So that's kind of like what I've

998
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,000
been believing for the last 10
years of my life, I guess.

999
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,760
I resonate with that.
I definitely, I definitely feel

1000
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,800
once you look in the light, you
get into a couple interesting

1001
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,960
phenomena, right?
Is light a waiver, a particle?

1002
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,520
Is it physical or non physical?
So does it we measure it, does

1003
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,840
it have a size, a shape or is it
non physical?

1004
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,400
Does it exist as a frequency, a
wave, Right.

1005
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,080
So you know, when you say sound,
I think frequencies.

1006
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,000
So the the light thing, that's a
long time ago.

1007
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,720
There was an experiment called
the double slick experiment.

1008
00:55:31,720 --> 00:55:34,200
We talked about it here in the
show a couple times when we

1009
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,440
covered the simulation theory
when we talked with Grayson on

1010
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,760
the first one, then we talked to
with Rizwan Verk on the second

1011
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,600
one.
The double slick experiment

1012
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:49,320
basically was a I'm going to
fudge up that the times and

1013
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,440
everything's I don't have it in
front of me, but it was from a

1014
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:56,280
very long not very while ago.
Basically it was a way of

1015
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,560
proving the existence of
superposition the more.

1016
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:01,480
Are you familiar with the
superposition?

1017
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:05,840
Yeah, yeah.
So basically for, for people

1018
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,040
that are listening that aren't
familiar with superposition, is

1019
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,360
there?
It is a, a quantum term and

1020
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:14,440
it's, it basically says that at
the quantum level because you

1021
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,800
were talking about light,
whether or not it's an energy or

1022
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:21,760
matter at the quantum level,
things exist in in multiple

1023
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:23,800
forms at one time.
And this is where you get the

1024
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,760
the Schrodinger cat example
right?

1025
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,680
You put a cat in a box with a
vial of poison.

1026
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,480
You leave the room, come back.
Is the cat dead or alive?

1027
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,800
The cat not hold the bottle.
Did the bottle break?

1028
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,000
Did it poison the cat?
Is the cat dead Until you open

1029
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,320
the box and you look inside the
box and you observe whether or

1030
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:47,080
not the cat is alive or dead.
That cat lives in a position of

1031
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,760
superposition or lives in
superposition.

1032
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:53,440
It is both dead and alive until
observed differently.

1033
00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:56,400
This is this is kind of where
I'm, you know, I'm, I'm going

1034
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,760
with I'm, I'm pushing back
against you a little bit here

1035
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:10,320
because light apparently due to
quantum physics or you know what

1036
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:17,160
smart people say, right?
Light lives in in, in, in, in,

1037
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:24,680
in superposition, right?
It is, it is both a a physical,

1038
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:27,240
it's made of matter and it's
made of energy.

1039
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,840
But it's not until it's observed
that it chooses one of those

1040
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,960
paths.
And if you look at the double

1041
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,480
slit experiment, this is how
they proved this.

1042
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,560
When you I should just bring up
a picture of it because I

1043
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,040
probably feel explain it better
that way.

1044
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,520
See, this doesn't refute
anything really.

1045
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:44,760
It's it's.
No, no, no.

1046
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,400
I know.
I know.

1047
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,280
It's perfectly with with the
idea.

1048
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,320
I mean, like, you know, if, if I
talked about this before where

1049
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,600
like it's funny that they just
now discovered what the photon

1050
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,680
looks like, right?
And it happens to look exactly

1051
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,760
like your eyeball.
It looks like the thing that is

1052
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,400
used to observe the thing,
right?

1053
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:01,960
Without 1, you can't have the
other.

1054
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,840
It's like what came first, the
chicken or the egg.

1055
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,800
It's literally like this paradox
that seems to have occurred

1056
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,960
where they discovered what the
fucking photon looks like look

1057
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,800
like an eyeball.
So like to me when I say that

1058
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,440
like sound in light is what
created the universe, light may

1059
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,400
just be the consciousness, light
might be the the observing,

1060
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,880
right.
So us observing is the light and

1061
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,520
the sound is just that
superposition that the

1062
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,920
possibility, all possibilities
in a wave, right?

1063
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,680
So that's a philosophical take
on it, I guess, but.

1064
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:39,160
Basically, the experiment is
best proven through this picture

1065
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,960
right here.
OK, Now for people that are

1066
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:50,040
watching this, this is, this is
a laser pointer basically,

1067
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,000
right?
And you have a sheet of whatever

1068
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,800
material we'll call paper and
there's two slits in it.

1069
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:03,640
Now if, if light was an energy,
which is what we believed it to

1070
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,920
be for a very long time, if you
shine the, the light through

1071
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:14,920
these slits, you should only get
2 pictures on the next the next

1072
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,600
sheet, right?
Because there's no physical

1073
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,160
anything to it.
There's no matter to it.

1074
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,720
So there is no bouncing, there
is no reflecting, there's no

1075
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:31,440
nothing.
But in fact, when you shoot a

1076
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:35,240
laser, which is all it is, is
condensed light, right?

1077
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:42,280
It's nicely tightly bundled beam
of light shined at these slits.

1078
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:49,960
You do get some reflecting and
bouncing that happens and that's

1079
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,360
how you get the multiple bars
over on the back sheet.

1080
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:04,320
So this is how they proved that
light is actually both a, an

1081
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:09,480
energy and matter.
I know I kind of, I, I just

1082
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,120
wanted to get that out.
I wanted to explain that to

1083
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:14,400
people.
The more I know I I kind of went

1084
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,240
down.
A different path in you there,

1085
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,880
and I apologize for that, but I
just wanted to get that out.

1086
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:26,480
No, I, I think that the question
was, you know, what is light and

1087
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,960
understanding what light is is a
big clue, right.

1088
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,880
So I'm going to agree with most
almost everything you what you

1089
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:37,680
said, maybe except for your
conclusion on this is how we

1090
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,920
know what it is and it's both.
So I'm not going to say that

1091
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,440
it's both.
I think we have, we have an

1092
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,680
understanding of light in a
frequency capacity.

1093
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,840
This is how on the spectrum of
frequencies we can identify

1094
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,880
which ones are the light from
infrared to near infrared to

1095
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,400
green spectrum, Blues, every
spectrum of color has its own

1096
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,200
frequency and this is how we
create LEDs.

1097
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,480
We use frequency to to manifest
light, to create light.

1098
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,640
Now the LE DS are not emitting
anything physical whatsoever.

1099
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,360
There's nothing coming out of
them except for a frequency.

1100
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,760
And a frequency is considered
non physical right?

1101
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,360
So the double slit gives us 2
patterns.

1102
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,920
One pattern is of a non physical
and one pattern is of physical,

1103
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,760
right?
Is light a wave or a particle?

1104
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,480
That's the question we're trying
to answer because we do the same

1105
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:37,560
thing and we get two different
patterns.

1106
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:43,360
So I wouldn't say that the laser
is emitting anything physical

1107
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,080
whatsoever.
It shows you that it can be one

1108
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:50,720
or the other based on
observation is what the double

1109
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,280
slit says.
The double slit says that it can

1110
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:59,160
come out of the laser as a
photon or a wave, a physical or

1111
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:04,560
a non physical thing based on
how you observe it or when you

1112
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:08,040
observe it, right?
Yep.

1113
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,760
So they took this thing a little
bit further.

1114
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,120
But before we go there, the
ramifications of that are just

1115
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:19,280
fucking mind blowing.
Do you understand how to apply

1116
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,200
that to anything you see in the
sky?

1117
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,200
Yeah.
Could does that mean that

1118
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,200
everything in the sky could
exist in a non physical form

1119
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,880
until I observe it?
Well, that's basically the gist

1120
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:34,040
of superposition, right?
And, and superposition is, is a

1121
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,240
term for the quantum level of
things, right?

1122
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:40,520
And that's, that's the, that's
basically, there's a, there's

1123
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,840
these theories that are out
there that if anything happens

1124
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,840
in the quantum realm, it could
also how it happened in the

1125
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,760
micro and macro as well.
We just don't know how to yet.

1126
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,560
Or this could be one of those
things which would align with

1127
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,640
more or less what you guys think
about, you know, certain things

1128
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,000
such as holograms and stuff.
The manipulation of

1129
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:04,000
superposition could create
something along the lines of a

1130
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,720
Project Bluebeam kind of
scenario that that would be

1131
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:11,720
interesting to look and see what
the implications are.

1132
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,520
One superposition.
Yeah, definitely.

1133
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:21,160
On the macro level.
The quantum ideas, the ideas

1134
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:25,720
sold to people, the public as
quantum, the quantum realm, that

1135
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,680
terminology becomes really
confusing because we're trying

1136
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,680
to figure out like, well, why do
you say that?

1137
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,760
I mean, you can come up with a
term that it does magic things,

1138
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:38,680
and that's basically what a lot
of the quantum terms do, like

1139
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,640
superposition.
That's magic.

1140
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,800
I mean, basically what that
means is that it exists

1141
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,800
everywhere at the same time.
It's like, well, but it doesn't.

1142
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,160
Like nothing exists everywhere
at the same time.

1143
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,960
If it did, then we wouldn't
exist, right?

1144
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,520
Like it would fill space if you
can't have that thing existing

1145
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,000
everywhere at once, because I'm
here and I wouldn't be here if

1146
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,880
that thing was filling that.
Space but superposition is also

1147
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,240
one of the best arguments for
the multi universe theory or the

1148
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,560
multiple universe theory where
you know every decision that we

1149
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:20,360
make splits off into into dual
dual existences right where you

1150
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:23,560
know to answer your what you
said, if if we can live in a in

1151
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:26,720
a state of superposition, we
would both be here and not be

1152
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:32,720
here which.
Should remind like, like we have

1153
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,000
no, we have no reference frame
to understand.

1154
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,920
Like what?
Like that's a that's an idea.

1155
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,680
And I love, you know,
philosophy, right?

1156
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,200
It's, it's a thought experiment.
It's like, OK, you know, what

1157
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:45,960
came before God?
How did he get here?

1158
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,840
You know, there's infinite
reductions in situations.

1159
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,960
Like you just come across
paradoxes and stuff like that.

1160
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,440
And I'm not trying to dismiss
any of this terminology.

1161
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,680
I'm just trying to say that it's
very foreign to us and we need

1162
01:04:57,720 --> 01:05:01,400
to think of analogies to be able
to describe it in reality, or

1163
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,720
even better, show it the actual
phenomena that exists where this

1164
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:09,880
terminology came from.
So the quantum realm really

1165
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,240
starts with the double slit
experiment.

1166
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,400
They get into trying to figure
out how how is this possible?

1167
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,600
How is it possible that our
observation can manifest

1168
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,360
reality, can turn something from
a non physical state into a

1169
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,160
physical state and actually
manifest light like this is

1170
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,600
magic.
So what the quantum realm did is

1171
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,080
they said, OK, let's take this
one step further and let's find

1172
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,120
out if it's the actual observer
that's collapsing the wave

1173
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,760
function and creating the mass
or the matter, the existence of

1174
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:38,040
a physical thing or is it
something else?

1175
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,320
So what they came up with this
experiment called the delayed

1176
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,080
choice quantum eraser.
I'll explain the term.

1177
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,120
I'll.
Explain the terminology first,

1178
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:49,440
just so it simplifies.
They're giving the light a

1179
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:53,320
choice, a delayed choice,
meaning at different intervals

1180
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:56,000
of time they're going to be
recording this light, right?

1181
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,320
So there's a choice and it's
delayed.

1182
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:02,840
So multiple options, delayed
quantum means to count.

1183
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:04,920
Don't make it any more
complicated than that.

1184
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,400
Either you can count it or you
can't, right?

1185
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:12,000
0 does not exist, right?
So if you're not counting

1186
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,920
anything, it doesn't exist.
So we're counting and then

1187
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:21,120
eraser, we can no longer count.
It's saying a paradox.

1188
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,440
OK, I'm on one hand, I'm
counting and now I can no longer

1189
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,720
count.
So another paradox arise.

1190
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,240
So this paradox is explained by
a demonstration.

1191
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,680
It's not really an experiment
because we're not manipulating

1192
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,560
the variables, right?
And an actual experiment, you

1193
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:38,040
got to manipulate independent
and dependent variables to

1194
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,920
understand the cause and effect
relationship.

1195
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:41,760
We're not even able to go that
far.

1196
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:46,160
All we can do is demonstrate or
observe, measure and test.

1197
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,280
And this is square one of the
scientific method.

1198
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,240
I'm not going to discount it,
but an actual experiment, you

1199
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,320
have to actually manipulate the
variables in order to determine

1200
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,400
the cause.
And we can't do that.

1201
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,200
We can only observe the effect.
So we're not even trying to

1202
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:00,640
figure out how what this is
doing.

1203
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,120
We're just trying to understand
what the effect is and how that

1204
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,400
works.
And what two other two other

1205
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:09,640
terms come out of this
demonstration that are also in

1206
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:13,000
line with your super positioning
and they call it quantum

1207
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:17,960
entanglement.
So the idea that, OK, your

1208
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,040
superposition could be a real
thing if something way over

1209
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:24,560
there knows what something way
over here is doing without a

1210
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,400
physical connection between them
or physical way for them to

1211
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,480
communicate this information,
right?

1212
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,600
How do they know at the same
time, right, so that they're

1213
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:38,960
entangled, meaning whatever one
does, the other one knows that

1214
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:44,800
it did it and vice versa.
And instantaneous action at a

1215
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,080
distance, right?
This is another idea.

1216
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,760
If it's in line with super
positioning, the idea that

1217
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,640
everything is everywhere, so
instantaneous action at a

1218
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,000
distance is pretty
straightforward.

1219
01:07:56,280 --> 01:08:00,360
It's meaning, you know, how much
time is it actually taking for

1220
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,960
something to be communicated
from point A to point B?

1221
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:06,360
And can we measure it?
And what quantum Eraser says is

1222
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,080
no, you can't measure it how
fast it's going because it

1223
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:14,240
breaks down time barriers,
right?

1224
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,439
We're seeing something happen in
this demonstration that goes

1225
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:23,840
back in time or something that
knows prior to something

1226
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,319
accomplishing its doing.
So how does we measure at one

1227
01:08:27,319 --> 01:08:29,880
station prior and other stations
later?

1228
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,880
The first station that gets
measured says this result, and

1229
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,200
the only way it knew that result
is by the completion of the

1230
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,680
entangled photon going where it
was going.

1231
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:45,880
So is this really like coming
down to like, OK, because I'm a

1232
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,920
smooth brain, right?
So I am.

1233
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,359
Is this just like because to me
I'm just thinking like fate or

1234
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:55,080
no fate, right?
Is fate a thing?

1235
01:08:55,600 --> 01:09:00,479
Is this one pre designed
universe with AI mean times not

1236
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,439
linear, but you know, like a
timeline, I guess, and the

1237
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:06,800
things that happened happened.
Or is it like multiverse and

1238
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:10,760
we're like peering and merging
and you know, infinite universes

1239
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:12,520
Thing is, it is that what we're
saying here?

1240
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,680
It's like it's going to be one
or the other?

1241
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,960
Is that what this experiment is
kind of designed for?

1242
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:23,640
I think it more points out to
the nature of our reality and

1243
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:29,240
how physical things can exist in
non physical forms until we

1244
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:34,040
experience them.
So I'll give you a great example

1245
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,520
of how this information applies
directly to a solution that I

1246
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:41,560
have a hard time with.
So I know the earth is flat,

1247
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,040
without question.
It observes, measures and tests

1248
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,160
to be level.
But it works like a cylinder.

1249
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:49,479
It works like a ball east to
West.

1250
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,160
If you go on a straight line,
you ended up the same place.

1251
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,280
And this is a paradox, a
paradigm, how this cannot

1252
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,680
happen.
Einstein provides one solution.

1253
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:02,320
He says it's the bending of
warping of space and time, not

1254
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,520
the physical reality that's
bending and warping.

1255
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,400
OK, I'm cool with that.
But we're also talking about.

1256
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,480
General Relativity.
We're also talking about the

1257
01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:16,920
idea of manifestation.
We live in a world that is full

1258
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,920
of information, and the delayed
choice Quantum Eraser

1259
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,160
demonstrates that it's the
information that collapses the

1260
01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,720
wave function and not the
observation.

1261
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,840
They remove the observer from
the equation.

1262
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:32,320
So this information exists in a
way that we can observe,

1263
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:37,360
measure, test, but we know it's
there because we observe the

1264
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,280
effects of it.
We can't locate it.

1265
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,040
We don't know where the sun, the
moon, and the stars actually

1266
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,760
exist in reality, but we observe
the effect of the moon, the sun,

1267
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,960
and the stars in our reality,
right?

1268
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,920
The the frequencies that are
generated, we don't know where

1269
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:56,920
they come from or how they
exist, but they're omnipresent,

1270
01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,320
right?
Like the idea of how a radio in

1271
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:04,000
your car works.
So these invisible frequencies

1272
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,000
are carrying this information to
your car.

1273
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:09,880
Well, those frequencies on that
dial exist in nature.

1274
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,000
We didn't make them.
We're not broadcasting them.

1275
01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:17,160
We didn't create them.
They exist in nature. 91 point

1276
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:21,600
592.8 all these exist within
nature.

1277
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,720
All we do is piggyback them.
We don't know where they come

1278
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,400
from.
We pig, we piggyback those

1279
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,400
signals, those frequencies that
exist.

1280
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:33,720
We boost them, give them more
energy and release them on their

1281
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:37,880
you know back and load it up
with our information and our

1282
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,720
antenna brings it to our radio
where it interpret the signal.

1283
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:46,360
So all these frequencies exist
everywhere all the time.

1284
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:49,280
Our Wi-Fi is broadcasting.
We don't, we don't feel it, we

1285
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,760
don't experience it.
We know that these phenomena are

1286
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:56,320
affecting things, but we don't
manifest the reality or the

1287
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,840
knowledge manifests the reality.
So where's this information

1288
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,240
being stored?
And back to your other question,

1289
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,440
with multiple dimensions and
then with multiple realities, I

1290
01:12:05,440 --> 01:12:09,120
think if we can prove that this
place is created, it's a purpose

1291
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,520
of reason, has mathematical
precision, then you can create

1292
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,360
as many as you want.
What's what's the limit?

1293
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,480
So do I think this place is
special?

1294
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:20,680
Hell yeah.
This is what?

1295
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,520
It's magnificent.
It's beautiful, it's

1296
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,320
spectacular.
It's amazing.

1297
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,160
But who knows?
Maybe there are these alien

1298
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:31,400
places that people dream of,
that people just can't.

1299
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:33,800
You know, that's their reality.
They live in that world.

1300
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:36,720
Maybe that's coming from a real
place.

1301
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,120
I can't dismiss that because I
don't know what's outside this

1302
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:42,240
realm, this place.
I like that.

1303
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:45,280
That was very good.
Very.

1304
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,040
Good.
You guys hear the Akashic

1305
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,280
Records?
You ever hear those?

1306
01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:49,600
Yeah, man.
Oh yeah.

1307
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,360
So it's not a new idea that this
information is somewhere like,

1308
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:57,440
and we can tap into it, that
we're, we're kind of receivers.

1309
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,720
We don't even know how our
memories are imprinted in our

1310
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,920
brains.
Like we can do this on a disk,

1311
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,440
right?
With ones and zeros?

1312
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,600
Fuck, we're about to go down a
whole hole right now.

1313
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,800
We don't know where we go when
we dream, when we dream

1314
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,320
consciousness experiments are
very fascinating and

1315
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:22,440
understanding just who we are is
really a journey that I think

1316
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,240
the lies are kind of like one
part of it.

1317
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,560
But the truth is like, wow, this
place really is magic.

1318
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,120
It really is supernatural.
It really is magnificent, you

1319
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,120
know, and they kind of hide it
with all this infighting and

1320
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,160
bickering and fear.
You know, the asteroids are

1321
01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:40,240
going to blow up Earth, the
sun's going to explode.

1322
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,440
You know, the moon's getting too
close, too far away.

1323
01:13:42,440 --> 01:13:46,040
You know, super volcanoes,
nuclear weapons, mass outbreaks

1324
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,640
of pandemics, pandemics, you
know, everything is distracting

1325
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:51,560
you from how magnificent this
place really is.

1326
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,960
And they're, they're getting
people to the point where

1327
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,400
they're hooked on drugs trying
to escape this reality.

1328
01:13:56,800 --> 01:14:00,880
It's like, dude, dude, fuck,
just appreciate how magnificent

1329
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,920
it is.
I'm cool with drugs, but, you

1330
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,400
know, try mushrooms or
something.

1331
01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,240
Just chill out.
Like you don't have to get on

1332
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,640
that pharma shit, you don't have
to be taking just fentanyl and

1333
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:11,880
fucking methamphetamines and all
that.

1334
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,320
It exists in nature bro.
Just go find some good plants

1335
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,560
and plant some good plants and
you'll be good.

1336
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:20,240
It's all right, man.
Yeah, it's interesting that

1337
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,840
they, you know, it's called a
flow state for a reason, right?

1338
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,720
When you get in a flow state in
whatever you're doing and it's

1339
01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,280
because you're riding those,
those frequencies, man.

1340
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,320
And like, the information comes
to you from what some people

1341
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,560
call the Akashic records, right?
Like when I'm writing music,

1342
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,680
when I'm playing guitar, man,
and like, if I'm sitting there

1343
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,640
for an hour and I'm just, that's
all I'm thinking about.

1344
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,000
I'm not thinking about bills.
I'm not thinking about anything

1345
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,200
else in the world, man, in the
universe except that thing.

1346
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,400
And the information just comes
to me and the things get created

1347
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,120
and I'm like, I'm blowing my own
mind.

1348
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,600
I'm like, holy shit, this is so
sick, right?

1349
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,680
And it's like, you know, and
then you can put, you can apply

1350
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,640
that towards anything.
And it's just interesting to me

1351
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:00,400
that that it's called the flow
state.

1352
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,120
And I know that it's called the
flow state for that reason, but

1353
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:07,560
you know, it's all, there's
definitely some connection to a

1354
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:11,920
creator of some kind.
Now, you know, you can get weird

1355
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,480
with it and say, are we at base
level creation, right?

1356
01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:18,080
Because then you got people like
David Ike who talk about the

1357
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,000
hacking of reality, the hacking
of the information of light.

1358
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:25,120
So the information that we're
consuming in in decoding our

1359
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:29,960
reality could be just hacked
from a higher being an alien,

1360
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:32,920
right?
So that's always interesting to

1361
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,960
think about too.
Yeah, Adam and Eve, two people

1362
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,240
started all this.
That's that's a bit of a fairy

1363
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,760
tale in my mind.
But, you know, the creation of

1364
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:46,400
this place, so many questions
when it comes to how, you know,

1365
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:49,040
we're given a lot of stories.
And I'm not saying that they're

1366
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:52,080
wrong or right.
I'm just saying if you can

1367
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,960
actually prove some things,
these questions become even more

1368
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,120
dynamic, right?
You have an actual foundation

1369
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,880
like, well, how the hell did he
pull off the sun or she?

1370
01:16:02,440 --> 01:16:06,640
In my mind, I think it takes all
of our spirits to manifest this

1371
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,440
reality, all of our energy.
And that gets into some of the

1372
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:11,960
population questions.
I don't know if you guys have

1373
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:14,400
ever questioned the population
of Earth and how that works.

1374
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:19,520
There's an agenda behind the
population that.

1375
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,080
And.
What if the?

1376
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:24,280
Same amount of guide What?
About what if the same amount of

1377
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:25,360
people have always been on
earth?

1378
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:29,280
Same amount?
All of them you.

1379
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,280
Mean like they just recycle
consciousness.

1380
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,040
No, like actual populations like
that.

1381
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:36,880
There's not 8 billion people
here.

1382
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,480
There never has been.
Well, we, we, OK, Yeah, we

1383
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:41,760
talked about that.
Wait, is that what you're

1384
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,480
saying?
I'm just saying, what if about

1385
01:16:44,480 --> 01:16:46,880
the same number of people die
that are born every day?

1386
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,520
Or that there's just always been
8 billion people here?

1387
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,600
Yeah.
You know, I'm just curious like.

1388
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,040
Well, I guess I never thought
about it that way.

1389
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:59,560
I have thought about, you know,
the, there was those theories

1390
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,520
going around a while back.
I used to get into it.

1391
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:02,960
Yeah.
There's not 8 billion people

1392
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,880
here, right?
There's only 500 million people

1393
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,080
here.
And it's like all the censuses

1394
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:09,960
around the world are just
fucking fake.

1395
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,560
And they do that for, you know,
so they can carry on with their

1396
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,720
fake money schemes and their
fucking scarcity schemes and all

1397
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,440
that bullshit.
And there's really not that many

1398
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:20,680
of us out there.
It's all bots and shit.

1399
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,240
Dead Internet.
I think that was what was going

1400
01:17:22,240 --> 01:17:24,040
around, the dead Internet theory
shit.

1401
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,400
Internet and PCs.
Yeah, PCs and shit.

1402
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,040
Yeah, population is an
interesting one because I come

1403
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,920
from one of the most densely
populated places on Earth, LA,

1404
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,160
right?
So I get where when you have a

1405
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,560
lot of people in one area, what
that looks like.

1406
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,800
And then I get on Google Maps or
whatever.

1407
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,240
And I, you know, some of these
cities in China, like they built

1408
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,760
the whole freaking city.
There's nobody in them.

1409
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,320
Like they're ghost cities,
right?

1410
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,760
And ghost towns.
And, you know, we're starting to

1411
01:17:50,760 --> 01:17:53,680
have a homeless like epidemic in
the United States here.

1412
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,040
A lot of people out on the
streets in some of these major

1413
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,240
cities for sure.
And I'm just curious, you know,

1414
01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:06,800
as far as how many people there
are actually, how do we know

1415
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:08,640
like the numbers are real like
you're talking about?

1416
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,480
Yeah, man, I like that.
That's the shit I get.

1417
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:15,520
Should we start counting houses?
No, you can't do that because

1418
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,160
they just pop up whole
neighborhoods, man.

1419
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,360
I've noticed that especially
around here in Central Florida,

1420
01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:24,080
man, you know, they're knocking
down whole areas of woods, man,

1421
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,480
and putting whole neighborhoods
there.

1422
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:29,640
And I know part of it's like,
you know, the whole Black Rock

1423
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,280
buying up the land and all that
type of shit, but dude, there's

1424
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,760
not that many more people like
moving here.

1425
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,680
It's just doesn't make sense to
me that they're building as much

1426
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,440
housing as they are unless some
smart city shit's coming and

1427
01:18:42,440 --> 01:18:43,720
they're going to start forcing
people.

1428
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,120
I don't know, but it's just
weird.

1429
01:18:45,240 --> 01:18:47,400
It's weird.
So you could go.

1430
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:49,960
My point is like, you can go
counting doors, but like, how

1431
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,440
many of those doors are just
there?

1432
01:18:51,440 --> 01:18:54,520
It's just doors, right?
For the facade, it's The Truman

1433
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:58,720
Show.
Yeah, it could be rabbit hole.

1434
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,080
I hear you.
You're pigeon around a little

1435
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,760
bit there.
Your your name brings back a

1436
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,560
memory of discovering the moon
for myself.

1437
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,480
And I found out that the rabbit,
the white rabbit is the face of

1438
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:14,800
the moon.
Face the moon.

1439
01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:17,280
You can trace the white rabbit,
and as it goes through its

1440
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,120
phases, it goes down the rabbit
hole.

1441
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:23,480
So this idea of the moon being
your white rabbit going down the

1442
01:19:23,480 --> 01:19:25,400
rabbit hole.
And really it's the only thing

1443
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,640
in the sky that looks physical,
right?

1444
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,440
Looks like a rock.
Everything else we see doesn't

1445
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:33,760
look physical.
So it's the the one thing that

1446
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,960
you can know for sure what it is
just through observation

1447
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,120
yourself throughout your
lifetime and asking questions.

1448
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,360
So many nations flags depict the
Crescent moon and the star start

1449
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:49,760
within it.
Pakistan, Turkey, Singapore,

1450
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:55,240
like a lot of countries do it.
And it's been recorded by

1451
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,360
astronomers that you can see
through it, stars through the

1452
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:00,760
moon.
When we see the moon during the

1453
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:04,040
day in the Crescent phases, and
it looks like sky blue behind it

1454
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,960
and like we can see the blue
through the crater sometimes it

1455
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,640
presents its transparent
situation, right?

1456
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:16,120
And then we have the moon during
its new moon phase when it's no

1457
01:20:16,120 --> 01:20:18,240
longer there, not blocking out
any stars.

1458
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:24,240
Where there should be a physical
obstruction, there isn't one as

1459
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,680
we trace the path in the moon in
the location where it should be.

1460
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,840
The lunar phenomena themselves,
it's one of my favorite studies

1461
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,360
because there's so much
information and if you

1462
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,360
understand how your eyes work
and how hard it is to see

1463
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:41,120
something in focus at distance.
My eyes are getting worse.

1464
01:20:41,120 --> 01:20:42,760
I see Jeff up there wearing
glasses.

1465
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,920
Jeff, can you read a newspaper
from across the street?

1466
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:48,160
My vision's actually impervious.
These are blue blockers, believe

1467
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:51,400
it or not.
People, but I bet you still

1468
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,280
can't read a newspaper from
across the street.

1469
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,360
No, probably not.
Like, that's just not how our

1470
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:58,280
eyes work, right?
The further something is away,

1471
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,520
the harder it is to resolve, the
smaller it gets.

1472
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:03,160
Until we can no longer resolve
that information, we cannot see

1473
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,800
it and.
That's 230 something 1000 miles

1474
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,080
away.
Yeah, if you think you can see

1475
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,840
the detail on something 237,000
miles away or you can see

1476
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,760
something, you don't understand
how your eyes work.

1477
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,600
It's that simple.
You don't understand how your

1478
01:21:18,600 --> 01:21:21,280
eyes work, and that's what the
Illuminati symbol is.

1479
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,840
The Illuminati is saying, look,
man, we know how our eyes work.

1480
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,440
That's why there's an eye on the
pyramid.

1481
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:29,200
That's why there's a triangle.
The triangle, what does it

1482
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,560
represent?
Represents science of

1483
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,200
perspective, the hallway
science, the train tracks

1484
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,920
converging into one and then
disappearing at a distance,

1485
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:40,280
right?
The tunneling effect, the idea

1486
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:44,800
that as we look out, the horizon
is formed by the convergence of

1487
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,640
the sides, the floor and the
ceiling.

1488
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:51,640
They come to a point, the floor
rises up to your eye level, the

1489
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:55,520
ceiling drops down to your eye
level, and the sides converge in

1490
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:59,200
until you can no longer resolve
the information.

1491
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,200
And this is at specific
distances based on, you know,

1492
01:22:03,440 --> 01:22:07,560
environmental factors, how good
your eyes are.

1493
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:13,520
But every single person on Earth
sees that moon in perfect focus

1494
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,360
on the horizon and sees the
craters and the details with

1495
01:22:16,360 --> 01:22:19,480
their own eyes, glasses on or
off, doesn't matter.

1496
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:24,800
The other quite telling thing is
that when it goes above you, you

1497
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:26,360
know, perfect focus.
I can see it perfectly.

1498
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,600
Then it goes above you and now
it's no no longer in focus and

1499
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,520
you can't see any of the detail
and it's smaller.

1500
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:36,920
Why is the moon always larger on
the horizon when it's rising and

1501
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:40,920
setting than one above you?
I almost hate to say it, but

1502
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:46,720
that's the general relativity
from Einstein at work.

1503
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:51,920
I know you don't like that, but.
Well, if you think that explains

1504
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,200
this optical illusion of
something looking closer and

1505
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,760
looking further away, that's OK.
But I would say general

1506
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:01,120
relativity doesn't have anything
to do with anything you see,

1507
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,080
because Einstein didn't base any
of his information on

1508
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,560
observations.
No, I would say the argument

1509
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,840
against what the Moore is saying
might be just perspective in

1510
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,000
general, right.
And maybe that is what you're

1511
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,800
saying, Jeremy, but there's
nothing, no reference, right,

1512
01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:17,800
So.
Yeah, it's all theoretical

1513
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,760
physics.
Right.

1514
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,800
When the moon is straight above
you, there's no there.

1515
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,640
There's no reference point for
size.

1516
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:24,960
Like something out on the ocean,
right?

1517
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,600
It's kind of hard to determine
how big it is or how far away it

1518
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,360
is.
That's when it's on the horizon.

1519
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,720
You have like trees and shit.
You have like a reference in

1520
01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:36,280
your peripheral.
Yeah, yeah, OK.

1521
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:38,880
So how are your?
But the moon's a hologram, so.

1522
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:41,600
Go ahead then.
Yeah, I.

1523
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:45,640
Was just saying how your eyes
work is proven science.

1524
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:48,400
You can all do the experiments
yourself.

1525
01:23:48,480 --> 01:23:53,040
You can take a stick and, you
know, walk as far as you want to

1526
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,520
walk and understand how that
information is consolidating,

1527
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:57,520
how you no longer see the guy's
feet.

1528
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:02,080
He shrinks, he condenses.
That information is lost.

1529
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,800
So are you familiar with how far
you can resolve that

1530
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,600
information?
Are you familiar with Crow 777?

1531
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,120
Yeah, yeah, crew.
Yeah, I had, I had Crow on the

1532
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,320
show 1 time.
He talked a lot about this kind

1533
01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:18,720
of stuff.
Man, it was mind blowing to me

1534
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:20,080
then.
It's mind blowing to me now.

1535
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,320
Yeah, yeah.
The phenomena that we experience

1536
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,360
every day that we haven't taken
the time to ask the questions

1537
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:30,440
about, right?
Like, why does the moon appear

1538
01:24:30,440 --> 01:24:36,160
10 times larger or more during a
super moon phase, Right?

1539
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,160
That'll give you a scientific
explanation for this.

1540
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:43,600
It'll tell you why they can't
tell you why Because it was of a

1541
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,480
magnification.
Magnification effect on the

1542
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:47,040
horizon.
Then why isn't anything else

1543
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,360
magnified?
You know the stars are

1544
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:49,880
magnified.
Nothing else is magnified on the

1545
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,240
horizon.
I can't tell you it's getting 10

1546
01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,480
times closer because there's a
direct correlation between

1547
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:57,800
distance and size.
I just totally fucked things up,

1548
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,040
right?
They basically leave you saying

1549
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,680
it's an illusion in your mind.
OK, we got, we got to start

1550
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:08,720
wrapping this up.
We're already over an hour and a

1551
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,000
half.
I hate to do it.

1552
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:13,800
Is what happens bro.
This is what happens, man.

1553
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:19,520
The more hang out for a minute.
Thanks for having me on your

1554
01:25:19,520 --> 01:25:20,520
show.
Do your thing, wrap it up.

1555
01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:21,880
Do do what you got to do.
Yeah.

1556
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:25,480
Do you do you have any social
links or anything that you want

1557
01:25:25,480 --> 01:25:28,440
to announce?
No, no, just follow Shadow Band

1558
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:30,000
Podcast and Infinite Rabbit
Hole.

1559
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,560
I like to hang out in their
chats and shoot the shit talk

1560
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:34,680
about topics.
Good people.

1561
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,640
Thanks for having me on.
I've been on both shows now.

1562
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:38,800
It's been a pleasure, you know,
hanging out, shooting the show

1563
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,680
with you guys, talking about
these fun stuff that we've

1564
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:42,560
looked into.
Good stuff.

1565
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,240
Yeah, we're going to do this
again.

1566
01:25:45,560 --> 01:25:49,360
Yeah, I'm done anytime.
It's going to have to happen,

1567
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:50,440
Jeff.
You got anything, man?

1568
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:54,640
I mean, obviously thanks for
coming on this show.

1569
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:57,240
And you know, this is my second
time having like an actual

1570
01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:59,560
conversation with you outside of
the live chats.

1571
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:04,040
So it's you're an you're an
interesting gentleman and yeah,

1572
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,680
I would definitely talk to you
anytime.

1573
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:12,120
So appreciate you coming on.
Yeah, the more Good show, good

1574
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:14,800
show.
Round of applause this.

1575
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,400
Is.
This was a lot of fun.

1576
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:24,840
This was a lot of fun.
This is I don't even know like

1577
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,520
where where to begin.
This is what happened to me when

1578
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,320
we talked about 911 and shit in
the second-half of the on my

1579
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:36,240
show or last week where I like I
got off and I have to listen,

1580
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:39,640
message Cramer.
And I was like, fuck, bro, did

1581
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,120
you hear what he was saying?
And he's like, yeah.

1582
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,640
And I was like I.
Bought I bought 8 books since

1583
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:46,520
the beginning of this episode,
just so you know.

1584
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,800
God damn Jeremy fucking donate a
Bitcoin to me or something.

1585
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,880
Jesus Christ, no.
Fuck off.

1586
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,560
I bought 8 books, man.
I gotta you know, I I didn't

1587
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,360
know which ones were the good
ones, so I just bought them all.

1588
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,400
OK, All right, the more thanks
man.

1589
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:08,640
Really, I like the way that you
present information.

1590
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:10,640
I like the way that you think
about information.

1591
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:18,760
I like the way that you that you
that you you break it down and I

1592
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,440
need to have more conversations
with you.

1593
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:25,840
I don't know how else to say
that other than just being

1594
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,000
straightforward with it.
I think, I think we, we need to

1595
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,560
have some more, some more
conversations for sure.

1596
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:36,160
All right, well, that, that has
been another episode of the

1597
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,000
infinite rabbit hole.
The more hang on when I I hit

1598
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,680
stop, just hang tight for a
minute.

1599
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,760
For those of you listening on
Spotify, Apple, or wherever you

1600
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:49,480
listen to your podcasts, just a
reminder that we go live every

1601
01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:55,080
Sunday night at 8:00 PM Central
time on twitch.tv/infinite

1602
01:27:55,080 --> 01:28:00,000
Rabbit hole.
And we are also now on Patreon

1603
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:05,760
where I just dropped the very
first episode for exclusive

1604
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:10,000
members of the $5 tier.
Also we have a $5 tier for

1605
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:16,120
Spotify memberships as well
where you you can also find the

1606
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,640
the John Teeter episode next
month, February.

1607
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:24,320
I have 50 something pages worth
of Skinwalker branch information

1608
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:29,880
for you which I took the old
script of 21 pages and exploded

1609
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,880
it.
There is a ton of really, really

1610
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:36,120
cool information where we dive
into the history of OSAP and the

1611
01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:42,560
BAS, as well as a lot of other
information that was completely

1612
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:46,200
skipped over with the first
series that we did.

1613
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:52,000
That will be a Patreon exclusive
for February and absolutely none

1614
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,600
of it comes from the television
show.

1615
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,240
So if you got all your
Skinwalker Ranch information

1616
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:59,760
from the television show, guess
what?

1617
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,080
You're about to learn a shit ton
more.

1618
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:05,120
So hang tight.
All right, that's been another

1619
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:06,680
episode of the Infinite Rabbit
Hole podcast.

1620
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,920
Once again, some more.
Thank you very much for coming

1621
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,840
on the show.
It's been a pleasure.

1622
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,360
You're welcome back anytime.
In fact, we are going to have to

1623
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:18,400
talk about getting you back on
at some point, because I really

1624
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:19,920
do want to pick your brains
more.

1625
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:25,280
Until next time, travelers,
we'll see you in the next fork

1626
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,040
in the path of the infinite
rabbit hole.

1627
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:29,160
Goodbye.
Bye.

1628
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:30,920
See you, Sir.
Thank you.

1629
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:37,480
Hey everybody, thanks for
checking out the Infinite Rabbit

1630
01:29:37,480 --> 01:29:39,560
Hole podcast.
If you're looking for more of

1631
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,760
our stuff, head on over to
infiniterabbithole.com where you

1632
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,440
can find links to all the
podcast players that we are

1633
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:48,960
available on and even our video
platforms such as TikTok and

1634
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:50,880
YouTube.
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1635
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,880
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1636
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,960
you know when all the new stuff
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1637
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,840
And until next time, travelers,
we'll see you right here in the

1638
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:03,360
next fork in the path of the
Infinite Rabbit hole.

1639
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:04,320
Bye.