206. Modern UFO Phases, Crypto, Underwater UAP, & Historical UFOs.

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Jeff, shut up.
Shut your mouth.

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Just teach me how to make money
and shut up about everything

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else.
I don't even know how to make

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money.
I'm fucking poor dude.

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Dude, I've been losing losing in
the stocks game yeah.

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However, however comma my oil
stock in Alaska, they've been

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waiting to drill for four
frickin years.

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In the last week it woke back up
after the Gray area and it's

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finally positive again.
It's only like 20% positive but

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heck yeah dude I've got 122,000
shares in this company looking

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for them to strike oil but they
haven't been allowed to dig so.

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Well, you never know man, you
might be the next trillionaire.

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Well, here's that's the thing,
here we are.

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It's winter time.
So they had to wait to winter to

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start because they had to get
over an an ice bridge, right, to

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get over a big old lake with all
their heavy equipment.

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So let's see, let's see if they
they strike oil and then who

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knows?
That thing goes to a dollar.

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You know that's 22 million,
baby.

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It's fucked up, man.
That sub zeros.

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I was watching this video this
guy was talking about.

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He's like, that's when you know
that a society is in collapse is

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when the men come home from
working.

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And then they try to figure out
like they start playing with the

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markets, trying to figure out
how to make more money, right?

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And then eventually it's only a
matter of X amount of time

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before societies collapse.
And it's like, damn, we're at

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that point, man, because I do
the same shit.

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I spent the whole weekend just
trading fucking meme coins.

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Yeah.
Fucking darkest places in the

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Internet.
And it's like darkest and

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dirtiest crap holes on the
Internet.

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Trying to outpace inflation just
to survive.

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It's like, fuck man, it's.
Good though.

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Hell yeah, brother.
Fuck yeah dude.

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Kids are about to be AUS citizen
bro.

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Yeah, oh boy, 51st state over
here, kids, is going to be the

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52nd.
OK, Yeah, I honestly don't know

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about that, but.
I don't.

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Know.
We shall see.

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They're saying that we have to
put like quite a few $1,000,000

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into your guys's, like military
to even allow them to function.

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So if we stop doing that, it
collapses.

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So then at that point you might
as well be a state instead of a

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country.
All I know is that if that

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happens, I'm moving to Canada.
Oh yeah, I'm buying like 1000

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acres for a penny or something
like that, right?

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Moving to Canada.
Is there like 10 people there?

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It'll be the new gold rush, all
that land that nobody lives in

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up there, It'd just be bro.
Yeah, you wouldn't survive in

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our cold, though.
I don't.

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You're from Florida, remember?
I don't hear Arctic hellscape.

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All right, I will buy land
there.

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OK.
I will take out a loan for 100

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bucks and buy 10,000 acres OK.
A stiff 85° breeze hit us at UFO

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Days and Jeff freaked out.
Dude, it was cold, man.

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It was.
Not it was negative early about

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a day Kenzer was saying he gets
down to -55 and they're like,

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yeah, we'll still go to school
and work.

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I'm like.
Couple a couple years ago in

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Alberta it got down to like
-50°C out here and they still

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were sending kids to school.
It was absolutely that shit in

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my opinion, but cold.
That's what it's here.

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What's -50°C in Fahrenheit I?
Think it's like 45 inches.

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-58°F.
OK, I was.

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Probably moly.
Yeah, it's fucking.

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Cold it.
Was like 42 here and I was

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freezing my ass off dude just
from here to the car I was like

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fuck this man 42 is fucked up.
State Nope, keep your cold

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there, I don't want it.
All right, I got a few things

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that we can we can talk about
today I came across.

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Them aliens with the bones.
We could.

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That's cool.
I didn't.

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I didn't do nearly enough
research into it though to to

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hold a conversation.
I was just cruising during my

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break today at.
Work twice at it.

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I looked at it a little bit.
Yeah, I am however starting a

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new project and I was doing some
research for a topic for that

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new project and came across some
really interesting reading

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material.
So so I read it and and the the

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the topic was pretty, pretty
cool.

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For those of you that appreciate
that the the UFO stuff, which

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should be everybody here, if
you're listening to this

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podcast, there was an
interesting bit at the back end

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of what book was it?
It was shoot, I should probably

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have figured that out.
I don't know, it was like two or

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three books ago.
What book was it it?

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Was the big secret is Jeremy
doesn't even know how to read.

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He just acts like he has all
these books.

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No, no, no, Jeremy definitely
knows how to read.

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I don't know how to read.
I was thinking it this whole

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time.
It was Skinwalkers at the

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Pentagon.
It was the follow on book that

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came out like almost damn near 2
decades after the Hunt for

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Skinwalker book by Colin
Kelleher and George Knapp.

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The book that I did most of my
research off of for the

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Skinwalker series that we did
back when we were with

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Paranormal Network.
They did a, a section at the

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back of the book in the prologue
on the six phases of the of

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modern UFO history.
And I thought that that would be

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a really, really cool topic to
talk about.

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So if you guys want to talk
about that, I'll talk about the

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the six phases and talk about
the years and, and what each.

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Phase.
Brought to brought to modern

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UFOUF ology.
I think that would be a pretty

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cool thing to talk about.
Pretty cool.

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And then I see Wollen's put in
the chat.

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Jake, have you guys?
I didn't get to listen to last

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week's episode.
I was super sick.

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So did you get to talk about
your your sighting?

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I.
Did not no, we didn't cover it.

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So if you're not part of the,
the Facebook chat or the

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Facebook group rather, you
wouldn't have seen it.

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But I, well, Whitney and I were
carpooling home from our job in

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Red Wing, which is just about at
the border of well, Red Wing, MN

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is actually in Minnesota, but
the Red Wing Regional Airport is

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actually in the Wisconsin sides.
And that's where we work.

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So we have an hour drive from
Red Wing to Menominee.

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And while we were driving, I saw
AII thought it was a helicopter,

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right?
It was just kind of sitting

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still.
And I kept looking at it, kept

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looking at until we got right up
underneath it and I realized it

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was more plane shaped.
I mean, there was 4 lights kind

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of in a cross shape, so not a
square, right, but across.

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And so I was filming this thing,
but the thing that kind of

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bugged me out it was is that was
staying completely still.

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And we all know that aircraft,
especially prop planes, stuff

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like that, with a really large
headwind can kind of fall out in

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position, right?
It's not until they go up or

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down that they actually start to
accelerate and move.

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But it was just tripping me out
quite a bit.

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And so I started filming it, or
Whitney started filming it at

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first, and then she told me to
pull over because, I mean, I'm

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driving.
I'm like, what the heck is this

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thing?
And she's like, just just pull

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over.
So we pulled over and parked on

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the side of the road through on
the hazards and I'm filming with

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my phone and then I pull my
phone away because it's it's

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getting the lights right.
But I pull my phone away so I

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can actually look at the Dang
thing and it's across like a

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plane.
But then the sides are connected

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on all points.
And I was like, that's on a

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plane.
I don't know what that is, but

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it's not a plane.
And we were 8 miles, she said

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north of Elmwood, right?
So.

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Chat 12.
She said 12.

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OK, so we're 12 miles north of
Elmwood and so pretty close.

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And it was.
Yeah.

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So I mean, it was weird.
It kind of tripped me out a

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little bit.
I know quite a bit about

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aircraft.
I mean, me and Whitney work on

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aircraft every single day at
work.

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I've worked on plenty of
different military aircraft.

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I don't know what the thing was.
It was not an airplane.

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Unless airplanes suddenly have
bands that I guess attach their

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wings to their nose into their
tail on all sides, right.

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So it was kind of plain shaped
in the fact that it was, you

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know, a cross, right?
Because the, the generally

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speaking, it's not a square.
The the tail extends a little

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bit past the nose and the wings
are a little bit closer to the

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nose, right?
Because that's where all the,

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well, that's I guess
aerodynamics or whatever.

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But yeah, it was really trippy.
And so we ended up taking all

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the videos.
We threw them on the group chat

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and stuff.
And unfortunately with the way

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of phone technology is, I mean,
the main focus of the video was

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on the lights, right?
So you can't see the body of the

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plane at that point or whatever
it was, right?

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The drone or something, But
yeah, it was super trippy

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because it just wasn't moving at
first.

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It wasn't moving for the five
miles until we got to it.

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It was just staying still.
I was like, what the heck is

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that?
And she's like, well, maybe it's

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a helicopter.
I was like, yeah, but if a

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helicopter stationary like that,
it's usually because they're

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searching for someone.
I grew up in the hood.

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I know about ghetto birds.
They would have a big old

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spotlight looking for something
and there was no spotlight.

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What are they doing right?
And so as we got up there, it

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was, it was pretty, pretty
different, right?

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And it wasn't going very fast.
It wasn't going like plane

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speeds.
It was probably going, I don't

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know, 60 miles an hour less, you
know, comfort cut going over the

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top of us, which is pretty slow
for an aircraft.

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Usually it's in the 100 mile an
hour plus, right?

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So yeah, it's very strange, but
I don't know.

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It sounds very much like the
drones that were over Jersey and

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other parts of the country.
It does.

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And I was even still, I kind of,
you know, I kind of hesitate to

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say it was that because I really
don't know, right?

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I mean, there's been a lot of
videos that come out from Jersey

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and New York and all these other
places and they are a lot

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clearer than my video was.
So I really hesitate to say, oh,

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this is what this was.
I don't know what this was, but

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it was not an aircraft or sorry,
it was not an airplane, right?

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It was not a helicopter.
Speaking of the Jersey Drones,

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I'm wearing the new 9 line New
Jersey Drone T-shirt.

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Nice.
And I'm wearing the shirt for

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all of us.
Look at this thing.

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I'm wearing my shadow band
shirt.

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Napkins are in it.
Look at this shirt.

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Dude, those things are super
rare.

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That's probably like a one of
five right there.

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I'm pretty sure that's the only
shirt ever made with that print.

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No, I know a few people who
bought.

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No, there, I remember there,
there was one other person I saw

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with the same shirt in the
group.

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They bought her shirt as well.
Oh.

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You're talking about Ken's art
shirt.

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Yeah, I can.
Oh, I got.

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My.
Shadow Band shirt on.

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Today.
Yeah.

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Hell yeah.
No, Jake's shirt is awesome.

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I like.
Jake's shirt too.

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I never introduced you.
No, you didn't.

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Oh, kid.
I'm sorry, everybody.

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Everybody listening today.
We have kid in the house.

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Yeah, pretty sure everybody
knows who I am at this.

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Point Dan is going to be dope.
Danny will be.

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Yeah, he'll be excited.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah, he will.
No, it's good to have you back

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on.
I'm excited to be back on.

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It's been a while.
Split.

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Nice to get together heading.
Oh, OK, hold on.

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I won't be able to hear hear
you.

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Look at that heading.
So for those who they can't see

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it, it's the Whale and the Bola
Punyas from Hitchhiker's Guide

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to the Galaxy.
And the whale has a towel

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wrapped around his waist,
because don't forget your towel,

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obviously.
Sorry to everyone that has to

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hear a a fan buzz from this 3D
printer right here behind me.

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I've been printing off a a
monster monstrous amount of

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stuff.
Here's a it'll focus because

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it's glowing white, right?
Yeah, it's glowing.

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There you go, a Kelly Green Man.
So As for Jeremy, I'm going to

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paint it up for him from his
episode and actually.

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Just just like the story, they
glue in the story.

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And this is a a rock cock.
So there's a tremendous amount

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of people that put the rock's
face there.

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We go see if I can block that,
light the rock's face on various

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objects.
So this is a rock cock and the

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next thing that's printing is
Rocket Raccoon from Guardians of

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Galaxy, except it has the rocks
space on it.

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I stand by this is the same guy
guy that was in the chat going

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off about how people are so
weird and they have this weird

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obsession with the rock and
putting his face on things and

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yet here he is printing
everything with the rock's face.

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On the next, it's called the
rocket, so it's like a model

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rocket, but it has the rock's
head on the top, so we're going

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to shoot it in the stratosphere.
I can't wait.

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Goodness.
Gracious.

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Oh gosh, that's obnoxious.
It's hilarious.

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Shut up.
It's great.

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You'd love it, Kenzer.
Don't even lie to me.

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I never said I wouldn't.
I just I.

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Love my stick obsession.
All right, so new format for

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infinite rabbit hole.
We're not doing a scripted thing

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anymore.
That will be part of my new

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project.
We're going to keep things more

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streamlined, more
conversationally based here for

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now on.
So we're going to try this new

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format out with with still
dropping knowledge.

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You guys ready you guys.
Ready to?

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Test the waters.
Send it.

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All right.
Bet.

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So, like I said, what we'll talk
about today are the six phases

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of modern UFO history as
outlined by Colin Kelleher,

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James Lakatsky, and George Knapp
in the back of their book

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Skinwalkers at the Pentagon.
Now in phase one, this was the

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initial phase.
This was the introductory phase

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of the UFO phenomenon to
America.

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This was brought forth in 1947
when Kenneth Arnold reported

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these boomerang or Chevron
shaped aircraft flying in

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formation over Mount Rainier in
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This is where you get the term
flying saucer from, which was a

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misquote by the AP Press Wire
who misquoted Arnold by by

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saying that he had described
them as flying saucer shaped

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what he actually described them
as when in relation to flying

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saucers were moving as if they
were saucers skipped across the

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top of water.
He actually explained them as a

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Chevron shape or a boomerang
type shape.

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And that misinterpretation of
Arnold's description of flying

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saucers has stuck to the UFO
mythos since and the term flying

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saucers or the descriptive term
flying saucers has become the

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number one described term in
ufology since so phase one.

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So the saucer is the psyop.
Yes.

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Right.
Well, yeah, that's what I put

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out.
I don't know, two years ago in

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one of the episodes I was
talking about how he reported

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something different than the
newspaper said flying saucer.

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And then we had 30 reports in
two days of people sing flying

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saucers because they won their
15 minutes of fame.

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And then how Hollywood puts out
an alien movie like they do the

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grey aliens and everyone's like,
oh, I've seen a grey alien too.

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And I've seen a grey alien.
And then the green aliens.

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Oh, I've seen a green alien.
Right.

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So not discrediting historical
like cave paintings and things

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from like, well, I know that
that Skeeter brought us up in in

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the chat as far as like Catholic
paintings and things like that

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and what are these objects and
stuff like that.

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I can't account for the
Catholics in their paintings.

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But you know, we do have
historical paintings and

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architecture and and and designs
that go back many, many, many,

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many years.
And they have these sorts of

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things, which I understand, but
I mean, for the most part, it

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seems that when Hollywood goes
somewhere or misinformation goes

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somewhere, then the people
follow because they all want to

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be famous and popular, even for
10 seconds on the newspaper

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article that one forgets the
next day.

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Now to be fair, right, like like
you said, not to discredit cave

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paintings and and and such,
right, there were plenty of

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historical sightings prior to
the Kenneth Arnold fiasco with

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the misquoted flying saucers
where there were flying saucer

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described.
Crap that, but they never use

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the terms flying saucer.
I'm actually trying to look it

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up right now.
Yeah, I feel like this is, I

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mean, it's obvious to me that
they would use, they give you a

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lot of truth, but then they mix
it with a lot of bullshit,

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right?
And then that way the public

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runs with a bunch of the
bullshit and it makes it easier

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for these intelligence agencies
to sift through the bullshit.

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To find the actual stuff, right.
So like they probably have on

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their checklist somewhere and I,
when I say they let's just say

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like the men in black, right,
like whatever agency this is

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sure, you know, on their
checklist somewhere.

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It's like, oh, if they mention a
saucer, like instantly just

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throw it in the bin, right?
Like, we're not really gonna

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worry about that because we
know.

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Like embellishment, you got to
make it more interesting for

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people that way, right?
And then we think it's a saucer,

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so we're looking for a saucer
when it's really this other

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shaped thing.
Exactly.

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It's a tic tac shape or it's a,
you know, a.

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Boomerang.
Right.

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They know that in the hangar
they've got the triangle craft,

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right?
But then they also know that

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there's some weird other thing
that's happening too, right?

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So it's on the checklist, right?
So it's like once they go down

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the checklist, they're like, OK,
here's the pile of shit that's

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actually worth looking at, and
then we have a whole big pile of

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bullshit, but the bullshit gets
out in the pulse.

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So prior to the the flying
saucer, the two most popular

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descriptions for UFOs were
described as the double convex

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type, which if you think about
it would be a flying saucer, and

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the convex planer type, which
would be a flat bottom with a

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flying saucer top.
Those were the two that were

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most commonly reported
throughout history, also within

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World War 2, in the form of Foo
Fighters and Ghost Rockets,

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which would have been just a few
years prior to the Kenneth

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Arnold reporting.
Besides that, what makes me

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wonder with the ancient cave
paintings and.

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Art from Mar.
Ancestors, essentially, you

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know, we have such an
imagination.

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I mean, we have Hollywood and
all this sort of stuff, right?

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Where we make movies about all
kinds of stuff that just don't

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exist yet, you know, or at all,
right?

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Who knows?
Like Tomorrow War, right?

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And I was watching Tomorrow War
the other night, and it was just

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like, you know, teleporting
through time 30 years in the

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future if you're already dead at
that point, so that you can kill

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the aliens and all this sort of
stuff.

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Well, back in the Renaissance,
they had Shakespeare, right?

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They had plays of things that
didn't necessarily exist, right?

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So people have always had
imaginations and told stories

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and have come up with things.
It's just, you know, what are

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the things that their disposal?
What if, you know, before the

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age of aircraft, it was the
ability to fly like birds or

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like quote, UN quote the gods,
right?

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Like I heard Louis CK, he did a
stand up bit where he was

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talking about people bitching
and complaining about the Wi-Fi

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not working while they're
sitting in a, in a seat that's

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flying 500 miles an hour.
Like you're, you're a ancient

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God right now.
Like stop complaining, right?

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Maybe that was the thing.
Could it be that these people

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just had these cave paintings
and things because they, they,

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it was part of their
storytelling of like how the

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world came to be or, or you know
what, it wouldn't it be cool if

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we could fly in the air like
birds?

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You know, we couldn't do it
ourselves.

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We can't grow feathers.
So let's, you know, we'll fly in

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a boat across the the sky or
something like that, right.

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So it makes me wonder that more
so than, you know, that they saw

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something.
But at the same point or the

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same time, my intellectual
brain, as far as going through

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my lens of Christianity, tells
me that maybe spiritual

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influences were upon these
people.

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They gave them information to
where either they saw the

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spirits themselves or the future
and painted that maybe, who

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knows, right?
It's, it's really, it's, it's a

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toss up.
Who knows it, it could be

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nothing, it could be everything.
No one really knows, but it is

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interesting to think about, you
know, because you can't really

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discredit that stuff because we
have archaeologists now that

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can, you know, look as as deep
as the dye that was utilized to

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paint these cave painting and
say, OK, this is round during

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this time BCE or whatever it
was, right?

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They're not going to say, well,
this was made yesterday with

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acrylic paint, you know, type
stuff, you know, or 20 years ago

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with acrylic paint.
And then they just wiped a bunch

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of dust off and made it look
really old or whatever it was,

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right?
So, so they are there, right?

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They do exist, and they were
there for a reason, whether that

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reason was for storytelling, for
entertainment or for historical

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document of their life and their
experience.

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I mean, who's to say, really,
without proof?

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I mean, we're just kind of
tossing it up there, but yeah.

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Kid, you got anything?
You're muted.

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I was muted.
You were correct.

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No, I don't really.
I don't really have anything.

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Just kind of absorbing it all
right now.

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I kind of agree with what Jake
is saying with like, maybe they

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were just storytelling, Who
really knows.

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But yeah, I don't really have
much.

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Well, by you have that.
Seems like a big SOP to me bro.

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I'll be interested.
Like I said before man.

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Like show up not in some fucking
weird spooky mysterious way

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place out of sight, you know?
Also show up in something that's

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not, you know it doesn't have
fucking lights on it, right?

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Because you don't need lights,
you know, this aerodynamic shit,

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you don't need that if you're
travelling intergalactically and

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interstellarly, like you don't
need aerodynamics, you don't

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need that shit, right?
So, you know, show up in a

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weird, like a morphic BLOB of
some sort that's like organic in

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some way, you know, then I'll be
interested and show up, like I

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said, downtown Orlando.
I'm going to be like, oh snap,

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right.
Like what the fuck?

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But you wouldn't believe it
anyway.

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It'd be like all these cops
showing up at that Miami mall

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and you'd just be like, that's
fake.

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It's for ATV.
Show This is why I said downtown

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Orlando, because that's the
closest major metropolitan area

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to me, right?
And it's and wait, wait, hold

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on.
It's the closest major

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metropolitan area to the Cape
NASA where they launch all the

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shit into space.
So if anything is going to come

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here and be like, what the fuck
is going on here?

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They're going to be like, wait,
they're launching stuff into

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space.
This is one of the places they'd

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come check out.
And when they fly down here,

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they're going to see the greater
Orlando area and they're going

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to show up over there.
And that's going to be Ground

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Zero of when the fucking or or
one of the other many, you know,

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launch sites and the closest
metropolitan area to those

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launch sites.
And there's a lot of them, but

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there's only.
One, I mean, there's Vandenberg

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Air Force Base up in, down in
Southern California, but up in

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the mountains a little bit and
it's, but it's super remote.

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I mean, there's no one there.
But if you come in from from

449
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,960
high altitude, from space,
right?

450
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,680
And let's say it's a clear, I
mean, and again, we're talking

451
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,640
interstellar species here,
right?

452
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,040
They're going to have all types
of centers.

453
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,120
They're going to come.
They're going to see what what,

454
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,920
what's the closest city to that?
LA.

455
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,080
They're going to fly into LA.
They're not.

456
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,520
Going to LA is gone.
Yeah.

457
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,960
Unfortunately, gone right LA has
been burned to nothing.

458
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,040
My point is, is like, you know,
if a species, in my opinion at

459
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,120
least, it's going to come here
from another star system of some

460
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:46,720
kind, They're not just going to
meet some random dude in a farm,

461
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,800
right?
Like that's weird stuff that

462
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,600
we're doing.
OK, If another species going to

463
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,640
come here, they're going to come
check out what's going on.

464
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,720
Like, where is the stuff?
Where's the energy?

465
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,880
What are the lights that we see
down there?

466
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,520
What is all this stuff that's
happening?

467
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,520
Like they're not just going to
show up in a weird spot.

468
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,360
They're going.
To be let me let me ask you the

469
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,360
question right?
If you were going to a foreign

470
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:11,640
planet, would you go to the more
populated areas?

471
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,320
Would you, would that be the
more safe way to go?

472
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,800
Or would you go to the outskirts
and check out one or two of

473
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,880
these creatures before you go
and you check out the spot where

474
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,280
there's 10s of thousands of
them?

475
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,680
And you, it would depend on the
area.

476
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,760
Like have I have I observed the
area, right?

477
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,440
Because like we were talking
about last episode, Jeremy, you

478
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,960
weren't here because you're
sick, but I was talking to Jeff

479
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,920
and Creamer.
I was like, you come to my area,

480
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,000
I'm going to shoot an RPG at
your freaking your spaceship to

481
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:42,720
see what the thing's made of,
right?

482
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,880
Or there's people like that, or
they're just going to light that

483
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,400
thing up versus a major city
where they don't have access or

484
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,920
the the laws are against their
ability to own firearms of a

485
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,640
certain caliber, right?
So it would it would certainly

486
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920
depend on how long you've been
observing them.

487
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:02,760
If you were observing them for a
short period of time, then sure,

488
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,840
some hillbillies somewhere
versus a major city, right?

489
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,000
Where they have, you know, cops
with Bearcats and stuff, right?

490
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,920
You got to think dude, all of
our radio waves have been being

491
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,160
shot out into space for 100 plus
years now. 200 years.

492
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,480
OK.
So.

493
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:22,960
Go ahead, Jeff.
Sorry.

494
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,000
Oh, I was just going to say like
the anything that's been coming

495
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,760
here, right?
They've been able to capture any

496
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,280
of those frequencies, any of
those broadcasts.

497
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,600
They know full well all what
humanity's about by now, right?

498
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,720
They've had 200 years worth of
capturing frequencies and, and

499
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,880
absorbing information.
They they.

500
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,160
Know who won the Grammys in the
70s?

501
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,120
Man, that's about it.
So.

502
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,880
At that point then landing in
gun free DC would be the best

503
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,640
place to be.
Yeah, I don't know.

504
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,760
It just reminded.
Me.

505
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,800
You don't want to go to Alberta,
trust me.

506
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,000
It just that this conversation
just reminded me of a post I

507
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,240
actually made in the Group A
while ago.

508
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,560
They've just been surveying
everything already.

509
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,520
They've been watching us for who
knows how long.

510
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,440
They're just for all we know
they're they're surveying this

511
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,680
planet to destroy it for an
intergalactic Hwy.

512
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,560
Just to bring back the
Hitchhiker's Guide reference

513
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:30,880
here, but like I, I think
they've been serving or watching

514
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,840
or observing the area and us for
a long time now.

515
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,320
So they're probably already
aware of how we act to things,

516
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,280
how we're going to react to
something or they have a decent

517
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,120
idea of it.
So I don't think it would matter

518
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,680
if they showed up in a small
place or a big city.

519
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680
It's going to create the same
kind of chaos.

520
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,040
You're saying they've been
watching our movies, so they

521
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,880
know that we're going to try to
kill them on site?

522
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,280
Yeah, literally.
I don't know, man.

523
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,040
I just, you know, I don't see a
whole lot of evidence for things

524
00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:05,800
coming here from elsewhere,
right?

525
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,360
I see a lot of evidence for us
doing spooky shit in the skies.

526
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,640
Sure, right.
But I don't I don't see the

527
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,960
other.
That like goes into Jeremy, you

528
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:22,320
want to talk about the paper
mache alien bodies?

529
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,400
I mean, we like a brief thing,
you know, whatever.

530
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,480
Well, I mean, what were they
calling them?

531
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,560
What was the term that they were
using?

532
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,640
Something AT.
Yeah, try something triacal Tri,

533
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,640
yeah.
That's what it was.

534
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:43,880
So basically meaning try digit,
right, try finger basically

535
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,400
excuse me, the the Peruvian or
the the.

536
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,280
That's it, yeah.
Naz Nazca, right, the Nazca

537
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:02,800
lines there's been mummified
remains found with elongated

538
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:08,400
digits and and some very strange
skeletal structures structures.

539
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Let me see if I can bring them
up here.

540
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:22,240
Try Dactyl.
There's let me see here should

541
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:28,520
probably let me let me read off
the next bit and then I'll bring

542
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:34,720
this up and we'll we'll look
through So I'm not just leaving

543
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,720
Dead Space in in the recording.
All right, yeah.

544
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,960
All right.
So let's talk about phase two

545
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,360
really quick.
Phase two.

546
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,680
Well, the end of Phase 1 ended
in 1952 which would have been

547
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:53,200
the display of UF OS over
Washington DC which lasted a few

548
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:59,160
days and jets were scrambled
from nearby Andrews Air Force

549
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:08,160
Base made a huge display of
basically dogfights and people

550
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,360
from the ground.
Ton of people spotted and

551
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:18,440
witnessed these various shapes
and sizes of UFOs over our

552
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,920
nation's capital in 1952.
Now phase two overlapped with

553
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,320
Phase 1 slightly by about three
years.

554
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,600
This was the contactee phase.
People claiming interactions

555
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,800
with extraterrestrial pilots,
often with messages about

556
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,320
nuclear weapons and its dangers.
You got to remember in 1949,

557
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,480
this was just a few years
removed from the usage of the

558
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,480
atomic bombs on Hiroshima and
Nagasaki at the end of World War

559
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,200
2.
The cultural impact now as we

560
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:58,480
just talked about the phases
2345 and six, we'll talk about

561
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,240
how each one of these phases had
a cultural impact.

562
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:06,080
The cultural impact from phase
one was the introduction of the

563
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,639
UFOs to the masses now.
The cultural impact of Phase 2

564
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,679
was the emergence of UFO related
cults and religious movements,

565
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,880
particularly in the hippie
culture.

566
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:26,760
Now specifically, there was a
lot of different UFO cults that

567
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,840
popped up during this time.
The one that I want to kind of

568
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,360
push out there and use as an
example was George Adamski's

569
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:43,360
cult, which George Adamski was
made basically famous for his

570
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,639
stories of interactions with the
Nordic aliens who would take him

571
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:54,080
or his space spaceship or their
spaceships and fly him to the

572
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,719
dark side of the moon.
Where there where he would

573
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:04,560
report lush vegetation, rolling
hills and populated

574
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:12,360
civilizations of of human esque
beings as well as visitations to

575
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,880
other astronomical bodies within
our solar system.

576
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:24,080
Now Adamski would go ahead and
publish 3 separate books.

577
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,440
Flying Saucers have landed in
1953, inside the spaceships in

578
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,720
1955 and flying saucers farewell
in 1961.

579
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,480
And if anybody else is familiar
with the work that we've done

580
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,760
here on Infinite Rabbit Hole in
the mid 1960s, we were all

581
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,760
introduced to the one of the
most famous cases that we've

582
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,360
ever covered here on the
Infinite Rabbit Hole, Woody

583
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Derrenberger and Injure Cold.
So Phase 2 was the phase of the

584
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,480
contactee.
Now we will talk about a

585
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,880
different version of the
contactee in phase four a little

586
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,600
bit later.
But for now, we're talking about

587
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:14,720
the peaceful, well, mostly
peaceful contactee which led

588
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:19,000
into the UFO cult and religious
movements.

589
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,720
Real quick, I want to respond to
the chat.

590
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:28,440
So Skeeter said Ezekiel's will
in the Bible is a UFO

591
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,520
description that's still being
seen today.

592
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,080
They just painted what they saw.
They never told the story

593
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,040
anything else like that.
So I want to read what he's

594
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,880
referring to.
This is Ezekiel 1 verse 4

595
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,280
through a lot, right?
So I'm just going to read it

596
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,840
until it's done.
It says, as I looked, behold,

597
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,000
the stormy wind came out of the
north, and a great cloud with

598
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,720
brightness around it and a fire
flashing forth continually.

599
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,160
In the midst of the fire there
was a gleaming metal, and from

600
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,440
the midst of it came a likeness
of four living creatures.

601
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,640
And this was their appearance.
They had human likeness, but

602
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,480
each had four faces and each of
them had four wings.

603
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,000
Their legs were straight, and
the soles of their feet were

604
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,640
like the sole of a calf's foot,
and they sparkled like burnished

605
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,480
bronze under their wings.
On their four sides they had

606
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:26,720
human hands, and on the fore and
on and the forehead, their faces

607
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,400
and their wings.
Thus their wings touched one

608
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,360
another.
Each one of them went straight

609
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,760
forward without turning as they
went.

610
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,440
As for the likeness of their
faces, each had a human face,

611
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,720
the forehead the face of a lion
on the right side, the the

612
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:44,600
forehead the face of an ox on
the left side, and the forehead

613
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:49,960
the face of an eagle, such as
such as where their faces and

614
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,320
their wings were spread above.
Each creature had two wings,

615
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000
each of which touched the wing
of another, while 2 covered

616
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:01,000
their bodies, and each went
straightforward whether the

617
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,960
spirit would go away.
They went without turning as

618
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,120
they went.
As for the likeness of living

619
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,560
creatures, their appearance was
like burning coals of fire, the

620
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,680
appearance of torches moving to
and fro among the living

621
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,960
creatures.
And the fire was so bright that

622
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,120
out of the out of the fire went
forth lightning, and the living

623
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,640
creatures darted to and fro like
the appearance of a flash of

624
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,160
lightning.
Now as I looked at the living

625
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,120
creatures, I saw a wheel on
earth beside the living

626
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,720
creatures, one for each of the
four of them.

627
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,760
So that's four wheels.
As for their appearance of the

628
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,080
wheels and their construction,
their appearance was like the

629
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,840
gleaming of barrel, and the four
and the four had the same

630
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,960
likeness, their appearance and
construction being as it were

631
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:50,080
wheel within a wheel.
Then they went and they went of

632
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,880
any of their four directions
out, turning as they went.

633
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,880
And their rims were tall and
awesome, and the rims of all

634
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,720
four were full of eyes all
around.

635
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,400
And when the living creatures
went, the wheels went beside

636
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,760
them.
And when the living creatures

637
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,760
rose from the earth, the wheels
rose.

638
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,600
Wherever the spirit wanted to
go, they went, and the wheels

639
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,120
rose along with them.
For the spirit of the living

640
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,880
creature was the wheels.
Then those went.

641
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,920
When those went, these went.
And when those stood, these

642
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,720
stood.
And when those rose from the

643
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:29,440
earth to the wheels.
I see you get no pictures right

644
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,000
there.
These stood and when they rose

645
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,080
from the earth, the wheels along
with them for the spirit living,

646
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,520
the spirit of the living
creature was in the wheels.

647
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,360
Over the heads of the living
creature there was likeness of

648
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:47,960
an expanse shining and awe
inspiring crystal spread out

649
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,920
above their heads.
And under the expanse of their

650
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,040
wings were stretched out
straight one toward another.

651
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,840
And each creature had two wings
covering his body.

652
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,840
And they, they went, and they, I
heard the sound of their wings,

653
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,480
like the sound of many.
Waters like the sound of the

654
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,200
Almighty, a sound of tumult like
the sound of an army.

655
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,520
When they stood still, they let
down their wings, and there came

656
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,760
a voice above the expanse over
their heads.

657
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,240
When they stood still, they let
down their wings.

658
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,680
So that was one through 25 of
Ezekiel 1, I believe.

659
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,560
So that's the problem.
All right, so that is an

660
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,600
incredible description of an
angelic being that is describing

661
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,600
a cherubim.
The problem I have skeeter with

662
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,080
people seeing these wheeled
things is not the full picture.

663
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:47,040
So either it's not what they're
saying it is, or it's a demonic

664
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:55,600
reproduction that cannot be
filled to fruition, right?

665
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,280
The devil likes to deceive.
So if he's going to make someone

666
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,600
think that they're seeing a
cherubim, but he's not going to

667
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,920
show the full thing of how
glorious this thing is or how

668
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,080
terrifying it is, then it's not
that, right?

669
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:16,920
So it, it's a reproduction like
you would expect, say like a

670
00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:22,440
like Marvel wants to make action
figures of their heroes or like,

671
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,760
like the old Christmas movie.
Gosh, was it Jingle all the way

672
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,080
with Arnold Schwarzenegger,
right.

673
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,200
So there's Turbo man and then he
goes and he gets the Mexican

674
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,800
turbo man and it breaks apart in
his hands and it's a cheap

675
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,400
replica and all that sort of
stuff.

676
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:44,240
It's not the right thing.
So he, the devil may be trying

677
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:48,560
to replicate the same thing and
his his angels that have fallen

678
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:53,760
with him to deceive people, but
he's not able to because it's

679
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,640
not the real thing.
So that's my problem with it,

680
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,920
you know, or people are just
being deceived into thinking

681
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,560
they're saying something that
isn't that because whatever I

682
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,000
just read right there is way
more glorious and would scare me

683
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,160
into crapping my pants.
And that's why every Angel in

684
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,080
the Bible when they came to upon
a person, they said, fear or

685
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,280
not, you're right, because
people were scared to death,

686
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,800
right?
So that's probably what it is.

687
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,160
Sorry.
That, that is a very interesting

688
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:24,480
bit right there.
Who brought that up?

689
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:27,320
You guys see this?
Yeah, I saw this.

690
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:32,120
I just saw this is 2 hours old.
Yeah, this, this I saw earlier

691
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,480
today.
In UFOs moving at hundreds of

692
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,920
miles an hour underwater, the
public congressman says, yeah,

693
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,240
this was.
Pretty interesting.

694
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,320
Republican Representative Tim
Berchant said in an interview

695
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,320
Wednesday that an Admiral whom
he did not identify had told him

696
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,760
of an unidentified craft moving
in incredible speeds in the sea.

697
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,640
Quote, they tell me something's
moving at hundreds of miles an

698
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:01,760
hour underwater, as large as a
football field underwater, the

699
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,760
Tennessee congressman told
former Republican Congressman

700
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,840
Matt Gaetz.
You know that, you know the the

701
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,120
Admiral that was on Sean Ryan
show, Tim Gallaudet.

702
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,320
Yeah, he was in one of the
congressional hearings who had

703
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,520
also been talking about his
other Admiral buddies who were

704
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,880
talking about that kind of
stuff.

705
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,800
One of those Admirals that Tim
Gallaudet was talk was talking

706
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,320
to is is one of the Admirals
that was talking to that

707
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,080
congressman.
Yeah.

708
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Yeah, it's it's supposedly one
of the same unnamed Admirals,

709
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,080
but apparently he's getting
ready to come forward now too.

710
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Bro the size of a football
field.

711
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,800
That's huge.
Yeah, that's a lot of water to

712
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,280
move through.
Like this is what I was saying

713
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:56,560
earlier about like, well, you
know, they like not needing

714
00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:00,400
aerodynamics and shit like that,
like worth or hydrodynamics like

715
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,360
these craft or there must be a
force field or they're bending

716
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,560
space.
Time they would have to have

717
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,600
hydro dynamics like even our our
aircraft carriers that are

718
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,680
larger than football shield, I
mean shoot they can or football

719
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,760
field rather they can only go up
35 knots tops.

720
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,520
Right, so they have to.
Have hydrodynamics to be able to

721
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,520
get through that.
Have you guys not been seeing

722
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,240
the big picture that's been
being painted?

723
00:44:23,720 --> 00:44:26,880
It's nuts.
Like the everything goes back as

724
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,440
far as like Bob Lazar.
So like when Bob Lazar came out

725
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,080
and he said that there, what was
that element, 1:50 or 1:55?

726
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:35,280
Or.
One one or something like that,

727
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,120
yeah.
Yeah, where he said that they

728
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:42,160
use this to to as fuel for the
UFOs and not only as fuels, but

729
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,760
also for gravity manipulation,
right.

730
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,520
And creating these gravity
manipulating fields around these

731
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:54,320
crafts to basically displace any
matter around it and and create

732
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,440
a seamless form of
transportation because it

733
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,040
removes everything around it
like that.

734
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,080
That's what it's doing, right?
And then and then that's, that's

735
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,440
what that's what, that's what
Doctor Steven Greer was talking

736
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,440
about.
And then you see how, you know,

737
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,600
he's talking about this stuff
and then he's talking about the

738
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,360
CE five thing.
And then you have this

739
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:18,720
whistleblower that comes
forward.

740
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,640
Then he's saying the same thing.
And then Louise Elizondo

741
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,640
starting to say the same thing.
You're starting to, you're

742
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,280
starting to get all these people
that are coming forward just

743
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,920
talk about the same thing.
And yet the original person that

744
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,760
said it way, way back in the
day, everyone called crazy.

745
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,840
It's it's not.
It's just, but you know, it's

746
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,120
just interesting to me because,
you know, there's it's still

747
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:45,440
there's still no evidence that
these things come from

748
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,040
elsewhere, right?
So it's like to me, this has got

749
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,760
to be some organization creating
these things.

750
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,680
These these are man made.
See elsewhere.

751
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,360
Could be anywhere though, and it
The thing is, is is that.

752
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,840
Could be a lot when you, but
there's just no evidence of

753
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,280
that, right?
But so we have evidence of

754
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,280
humans making stuff like this.
This is why I have a problem

755
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:17,160
with the term alien in general,
because alien it just means

756
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:21,920
foreign or strange.
Like we we find all these new

757
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,000
creatures from the ocean or from
the dirt or whatever all the

758
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,280
time and they call it an alien
like creature.

759
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,120
Well, yeah, because it's a
foreign creature to us.

760
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,160
That's all an alien really is, a
foreign creature to us.

761
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,400
I have a little bit of a hard
time with that term.

762
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,840
To to be fair.
Though that's the same with

763
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,400
elsewhere.
It's like, well, where is

764
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,440
elsewhere?
To me, elsewhere is Wisconsin

765
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,760
right so.
Yeah.

766
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:49,240
Well, to be fair, when you're
talking about the the UFOUF

767
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:53,400
ology community, right, the
majority of the time when when

768
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,400
discussing the term aliens,
you're talking about

769
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,000
extraterrestrials.
Well, yeah.

770
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,960
And, and the problem is, is
exactly that is that they're so

771
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:06,760
far caught up into the
extraterrestrial storyline that

772
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,600
everything else kind of goes to
the wayside.

773
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,240
And and you know, Jeff, Jeff,
you know, gets tied up in, in

774
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:20,120
the idea that it has to be some,
some human contractor in in it.

775
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,080
It's not I, I'm not saying that
he's wrong.

776
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,080
I'm not saying that it has to be
an alien being from a extra

777
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,880
extra terror.
So from outside.

778
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,560
Of this planet inside the Earth.
I mean, I'm, yeah.

779
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,040
And, and then that's, and
that's, that's I, I'm, you know,

780
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:45,880
I, I think that the best way to
answer this right isn't to sit

781
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,320
here and, and say that it, it,
it has to be one of these

782
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,560
answers.
The best way to answer this is

783
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,120
to say, hey man, I think that
this is a tiered possibility

784
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,840
answer right where I think, hey,
I think that the best

785
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,200
possibility is that it's an
interim interdimensional thing.

786
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,720
And then the next possibility is
that it's probably from

787
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,560
somewhere within the Earth or
somewhere within the oceans of

788
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:13,640
some some civilization that's
non human intelligence.

789
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,040
To kind of piggyback off that
though, this whole sure, maybe

790
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,040
they come from this inner Earth,
right?

791
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,880
But to us, random person who
doesn't look like they may look

792
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,480
human like, but for all we know
they're a lot paler and they

793
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,360
look more Gray in the skin
because of it.

794
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,920
That's we, we would see this
person go, whoa, that's an alien

795
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,720
because they don't they look
like us, but they aren't us.

796
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,720
You know what I mean?
I personally think that there's

797
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:40,800
zero chance that they're from
another planet.

798
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:47,480
So then what do you think about
these quote UN quote paper

799
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:55,040
mache, you know aliens, right?
They found in Mexico that have

800
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,640
the human like structure.
Do you buy that?

801
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:02,400
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I think so I because.

802
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,480
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Like those, those creatures

803
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,440
could have been inner Earth
creatures.

804
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,640
Yeah, and we're calling them
aliens.

805
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,720
Especially when you, when you
talk about Central and South

806
00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:19,760
America, especially when you
have like what was it Colonel

807
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:26,680
Fawcett and the lost city of Z.
And you have all of those, the,

808
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:34,080
the Aztec cave systems and the
stories of Quessel Codol and,

809
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:39,320
and how the, the, the
civilizations that arose from

810
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,080
the grounds.
I mean, there, the, the area is

811
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:51,600
just littered with lore and
history of, of advanced beings

812
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:53,960
that came up through the ground
systems.

813
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,160
And how all of these, these
pyramids and everything that

814
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:04,680
popped up across the world were
actually openings to these

815
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,320
massive cave systems that were
found under the world under the

816
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:13,280
ground, but were entrances to
the, to the above world for

817
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,400
these people.
And that's how you have a lot of

818
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,000
the architecture that is shared
from various parts of the world

819
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,800
is because all the architecture
was shared by a civilization

820
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:29,040
that was found under the ground.
You know, and then you have

821
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,040
architecture that's shared in,
in, in Africa, in South America,

822
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:38,920
in, in East or West Asia or East
Asia, right.

823
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:43,280
You know, and, and, and, and
there's even some that say that,

824
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,920
that there's architecture just
exactly like it in Antarctica.

825
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,760
And I, I, I think we've, we've
talked about that a few times.

826
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,200
We haven't done a deep dive on
it yet, but I mean, there's an

827
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,800
argument to be said about that
too.

828
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,120
There was something that was
discovered recently, I want to

829
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:04,720
say it was an Antarctica.
It was a massive underground man

830
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,720
made structure.
Yeah, I'll get you the I'll get

831
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:10,040
you the link.
I saw it come up on my feet and

832
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,040
I saved it.
So I don't know if I sent it to

833
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:17,600
the group way more was it was
discovered through gosh, what do

834
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,360
they do when they're looking at
cave mounds and stuff like that

835
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,800
or not cave mounds, but Indian
barrel mounds and stuff And

836
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,000
they're they're looking at the
ground.

837
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,160
They're like Geo scanning or
something like that.

838
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,560
It was found something like that
where they found a massive

839
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,600
structure that was man made in.
America, I'm way more inclined

840
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,440
to believe that there was like
Middle Earth was a thing, for

841
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,040
instance, right?
Like if you went back in

842
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,720
history, because I think most of
history is just fabricated.

843
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,520
So I think if you go back in
time, however long it is, there

844
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,960
was probably like advanced
civilizations all over the place

845
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,840
on the surface, right?
First of all, and and they were

846
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,840
probably doing crazy shit that
we wouldn't even believe.

847
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:58,920
OK.
And then I also do think that

848
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,040
there's probably civilizations
that we were warring with that

849
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,720
do come from underground.
And it's possible that a lot of

850
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:08,440
those mud flood theories, like
when they when they reset

851
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,560
history last time, that those
mud floods were designed to bury

852
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,880
all of these entrances.
Because you got to remember,

853
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,280
right, Like what Jeremy's
talking about too, you know,

854
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,240
like the pyramids, Giza was
under buried under sand a

855
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:26,640
couple, 100 years ago, right?
Like the, the dudes that were

856
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,120
traveling across the Sahara, you
know, they just saw the very

857
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:34,000
tops of the pyramids and the
Sphinx was probably completely

858
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,440
buried for a long time, right?
And then after like years and

859
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,160
hundreds of years, the head
started being, you know, exposed

860
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,520
due to wind and stuff like this.
And then explorers came and they

861
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,800
started digging it all out.
Like that whole plateau was

862
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,920
under sand.
And then you get into mud, flood

863
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,240
shit and people are digging
under these older structures and

864
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:55,920
they're realizing, wait a
minute, these two, three story

865
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,240
structures that are here, we can
dig down.

866
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:01,720
And these structures are
actually like four or five

867
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,600
stories deeper, right?
And some of the doorways and

868
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,120
windows are much bigger, as if
it was giants or something that

869
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,960
were occupying some of these
buildings.

870
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,000
So I think there is something
to, you know, them being from

871
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,480
here and maybe at some point we
just wipe them out or block them

872
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,320
off from from accessing the
surface.

873
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,320
But what part of history you
think was covered up or changed?

874
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:25,680
A lot of it.
Most of it.

875
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,880
What specifically?
I mean, you know, it just, I

876
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,040
first, if I had to say
specifically, I'd say just the

877
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,120
timeline, the timeline in
general, right?

878
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,240
So how so?
Well, how do you know that it's

879
00:53:39,240 --> 00:53:41,960
year 2025?
Well, I don't.

880
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:50,480
OK, it's that easy.
But besides that, say like going

881
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:56,560
into ancient civilizations and
stuff like that, say like we,

882
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,480
we, we both believe in the
flood, right, Right.

883
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,160
It was a cataclysmic event,
maybe one of many, right?

884
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:08,680
But it was one of them.
And it could have potentially

885
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:13,120
destroyed all of the world's
records if they were written

886
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,960
down on paper versus stone.
And even if they were written

887
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,040
out stone, and they could have
washed into the ocean and been

888
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,560
buried under silt and all that
sort of stuff, right?

889
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:28,880
So what's to say it wasn't
strategically covered up versus

890
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,560
naturally covered up or
catastrophically covered up,

891
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:39,440
right?
To hide the the information from

892
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,640
these peoples that were so bad
that God had to flood the earth.

893
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,720
I think it was both.
It was both because like Gobekli

894
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:48,520
Tepe was purposely buried.
They've done the studies to find

895
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,080
that.
Sure, they could tell that it

896
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,080
was buried on purpose before the
Younger Dryas, right?

897
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,120
So like, OK, they knew that
something was going to happen

898
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,600
and then the Younger Dryas
events happen and for the next

899
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,680
1000 years, like natural
disasters buried the rest of the

900
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,160
shit, right?
OK, Gobekli Tepe is just one

901
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,480
example of these massive sites
that that was purposely buried.

902
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,120
And who knows how many there
are.

903
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,320
That's just one of the few that
we've stumbled across.

904
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,400
I mean, honestly, there could be
Atlantis because you know, we

905
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:23,320
know that just like today, the
major metropolitan areas for the

906
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,880
most part, not all the ways and
the always, but for the most

907
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,560
part are on the coastlines,
right?

908
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,880
Because that's where the trade
happens and the commerce happens

909
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,160
and going in between countries
and all that sort of stuff.

910
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:40,200
Well, if the, we know that the
seas rose like what, 200 feet or

911
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,560
something like that, right?
Or 200 feet, 400 feet inland,

912
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,400
right?
So that could have buried a lot

913
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,160
of civilizations, right?
We're talking about 200 feet

914
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:57,560
inland is probably or 400 feet
inland rather is probably 400.

915
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:01,000
Feet out of sea rise.
It was 400 feet of sea low rise.

916
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,640
Yeah, by the end of the Ice Age.
OK, so the.

917
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,920
Younger driest period.
The sea level rose 400 feet.

918
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:13,200
So we're seeing a lot of mud
built civilizations collapsing.

919
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:18,760
We're seeing a lot of stone
built civilizations turning into

920
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:24,040
reefs right before modern
science could get a chance to

921
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,400
get at them, right.
They they just look like reefs

922
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,160
now, right?
Because they're all overbuilt

923
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,600
and covered with with stuff and
everything.

924
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:35,560
So I don't think that a
tremendous amount was covered up

925
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:40,560
intentionally.
I don't think that historians

926
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,520
throughout the world have tried
to cover stuff out from us and

927
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,240
said I think they're trying to
uncover stuff that has been

928
00:56:47,240 --> 00:56:52,360
buried, whether by natural means
or by supernatural means.

929
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,800
I'll tell you a couple of
examples, man.

930
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,520
First of all, just a modern
example, OK?

931
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,160
They've been trying to rewrite
history just for the last 10

932
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,560
years in front of our eyes.
You and I know this.

933
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,760
We've seen it happen, right?
They've been doing it right in

934
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:05,480
front of us.
OK?

935
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,720
I'm not going to get into it.
It's not the show for that.

936
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,320
However, you can go back and we
could talk about like, you know,

937
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,560
I've heard arguments and I don't
know enough.

938
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:15,640
I haven't done the research to
know like people will say, Oh,

939
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,240
Napoleon wasn't real, right, or
like these types of things.

940
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,680
I'm not saying that that part of
history is necessarily fake or

941
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,480
not.
I don't know when you get into

942
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,440
like ancient shit, especially
when you talk about like carbon

943
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:28,560
dating not being that that
effective.

944
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,720
When you talk about like the
choke, the chokehold that

945
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,720
archaeology has on all the
information about like ancient

946
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,320
dig sites and things like that.
You know that's you know, if I

947
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,400
want to say when.
I don't know, obviously.

948
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,080
You know however far back those
dig sites are are completely

949
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,520
strangled right by like the
Smithsonian and their fucking

950
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:50,240
peoples.
OK.

951
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,040
So that's what I mean about
history in the timeline being

952
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,480
skewed.
So I will, I will agree with you

953
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,600
there.
I, I know I'm going to disagree

954
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:05,200
with Jeremy, but the idea of the
Smith, Smithsonian and the

955
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,720
archaeologists and all these
people trying to push this

956
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:13,840
billions of year, you know,
evolution over time type stuff,

957
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,400
so they're willing to scrub the
numbers and all that stuff.

958
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,960
Here's a good example.
I agree with that right?

959
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,400
Yeah, here's a good example I I
forgot I was going to mention as

960
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,840
well.
It's just that like the kings

961
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,280
list.
I think it's like the it's

962
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,360
either Sumerian king list or.
The Egyptian, Yeah.

963
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,280
Right.
The Egyptians kings list, like

964
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:34,800
so mainstream archaeology, they
recognize the King's list back

965
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,400
to a certain date, right?
Like back to 3600 BC or whatever

966
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,840
the year is OK.
And then the King's list that

967
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:47,560
the Egyptians wrote down goes
back like 42,000 years.

968
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:52,920
Some of a ridiculous number, OK.
But archaeology OK as a whole

969
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,960
just says no, no, no, no, no,
that's that's just bullshit.

970
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,360
They were just making shit up.
This is the real start of the

971
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,480
the thing.
And it's like, OK, fuck you.

972
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,200
How do you know?
First of all, right, you're

973
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,280
just, you are the arbiter of
truth and you're dictating to us

974
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,080
what the history of humanity is,
right?

975
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,240
So to me, that's where the
timeline could be skewed.

976
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,760
But they could have been making
it up in the same way that the

977
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:18,400
Greeks made-up their gods, in
the same way that the Norwegians

978
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:23,240
made-up their gods, right?
Thor wasn't up there slinging

979
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,920
the sun across the list of guys
banishing the moon every night,

980
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,200
right?
They could have been making it

981
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,680
all up this.
Isn't a list of gods though.

982
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,400
This is a kings list.
Is the list of rulers who ruled

983
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:35,720
over.
But they could have been making

984
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,960
it up.
They could have Now the only

985
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,120
thing that I think is odd is
that if I'm pretty, if I'm not

986
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,360
mistaken, some of the rains, the
the lengths of some of the rains

987
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,640
were like thousands of years,
right?

988
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,320
Like the further that it went
back on the kings list, the

989
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,280
kings were reigning for hundreds
of years, thousands of years.

990
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,200
And then that's why the
archaeology is like, Oh no,

991
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,000
that's bullshit because
obviously people don't live 5000

992
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:58,880
years.
How could he have a?

993
00:59:58,880 --> 00:59:59,400
Rain.
Yeah.

994
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:02,600
Methuselah in the Bible, living
969 years.

995
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:03,480
Yeah.
OK.

996
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,360
So that's where I think shit
gets a little wonky.

997
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,640
Anyways, you know it does.
It does not say that God created

998
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,640
Adam and Eve and they were the
first people.

999
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,120
Got em.
It doesn't say.

1000
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,440
It doesn't say that.
So, Amanda.

1001
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,000
Strikes again.
Will trails real?

1002
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,400
I will agree with you that it
doesn't say that, that they were

1003
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,920
the only two people.
They might have been the first

1004
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,440
people.
They were not the only two

1005
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,880
people, right?
Doesn't say that.

1006
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:40,800
So like when Cain killed Abel,
he went out to another land and

1007
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,920
married a wife.
Well, where does she come from?

1008
01:00:43,120 --> 01:00:45,400
So they weren't the only two
people there.

1009
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,800
They were the only two people in
the Garden of Eden.

1010
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,400
So it could have been possible.
And it's not described in the

1011
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,000
Bible how long Adam and Eve
lived before they sinned, right?

1012
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,800
They could have lived for
100,000 or a million years

1013
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,080
before they sinned, right?
It could be a billion years

1014
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,320
before they sinned, but at some
point they sinned.

1015
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:06,960
They got cast out of the Garden
of Eden and then childbirth pain

1016
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,560
was a thing.
And then Cain killed Abel

1017
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,680
because he was jealous.
And then Cain was banished and

1018
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:15,440
then Cain married a wife
somewhere else.

1019
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,720
Where did that somewhere else
come from?

1020
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,840
And who is that person?
So they could have been there.

1021
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,600
So yes, Egypt could have been
around for 42,000 years or

1022
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,640
40,000 years or 100,000 years up
until that point.

1023
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:34,000
The only problem is I tend to
side with archaeology because

1024
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,720
you have to kind of prove it.
But at the same time, I

1025
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:41,680
recognize where you're coming
from, where modern archaeology

1026
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,000
and even the Smithsonian is just
full of crap.

1027
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,040
They want to hide the fact there
was giants in the Indian mounds.

1028
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,560
They want to hide all this sort
of stuff.

1029
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,320
You're right, because, I don't
know, maybe you would prove the

1030
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,520
Bible's right or it would prove
some other narrative other than

1031
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:00,960
what they're pushing.
I agree.

1032
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,640
But I also.
Disagree.

1033
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,720
That's why I go back my first
point when I said that they've

1034
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,800
been doing it in front of us for
the last 10 years, right?

1035
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,280
So imagine what they've been
doing for the last 10 years,

1036
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,440
just changing narratives,
changing history, just doing all

1037
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:15,440
that kind of shit.
But imagine we, they didn't have

1038
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,200
the Internet for all of human
history.

1039
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,400
And this goes back for thousands
of years that these schmucks

1040
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,680
have been doing this to us,
right?

1041
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:26,920
So like, how many things and how
many times did they fucking put

1042
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,960
this guy's name in there?
Change the date to that.

1043
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,840
No, he won the battle.
That type of shit I think is

1044
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,760
just, I think if we had a time
machine and you can go back and

1045
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:38,520
look at all the events in
history, you'd probably be like.

1046
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,360
What the fuck?
Like he's not the guy that they

1047
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:45,120
said he was.
He didn't do that right well.

1048
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:47,880
Throughout history.
It's been proven that nobody.

1049
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,600
Is who they say they are so.
All right, 2.

1050
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:51,920
Two things.
Two things.

1051
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:56,800
One I want to give a shout out
to Big Chalk 0870.

1052
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,800
Welcome bro.
He said shout out from middle

1053
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,160
Australia try.
I try my best to watch live but

1054
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,240
the time difference kills me.
Anyways, keep up the good work.

1055
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,520
Hey thanks for for stopping by.
I really do appreciate you

1056
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:10,720
there.
Thank you.

1057
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,640
Where did where did Jeff go?
Where did he go?

1058
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:16,160
He was losing the.
Argument.

1059
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:18,440
He stopped and left us.
How rude.

1060
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,960
Fuck, dude.
Ain't that right, Crystal?

1061
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,600
He's losing the argument, so he
left.

1062
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:29,560
Jeffrey Marie.
She's going to be like, no.

1063
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,080
I I worked up, I worked up an
appetite.

1064
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,640
I needed a snack and a.
Drink.

1065
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,920
Are those popcorners?
Yeah, bro, those things are so

1066
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,280
good.
Fucking love popcorns.

1067
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,760
Oh I've never seen Netflix.
What's?

1068
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:45,760
That it could be a sponsor if
they send me a.

1069
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,960
Pallet, but we'll see all right,
So what I wanted to say was

1070
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,520
sweet chili, sweet chili.
I didn't even know there was a

1071
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,000
sweet chili but but that.
The white cheddar ones though,

1072
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,320
oh man.
And the kettle cooked ones are

1073
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,120
just.
The kettle cooked ones are.

1074
01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,000
The.
Dangerous boobs.

1075
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,080
My only ones knew that we had
powers.

1076
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,480
They do, and it's the kettle
cooked.

1077
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,840
Ones all right Phase three
nuclear military bases

1078
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:18,600
interacting with UA PS 1960s to
1970's.

1079
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:23,120
The focus of this is the UA PS
interfering with operations at

1080
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,120
nuclear ICBM bases in the US and
USSR.

1081
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:35,160
There was There is a string of
Northern Air Force bases called

1082
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,840
the Northern Tier bases.
Most famously this would be the

1083
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:48,000
Malmstrom Air Force Base
sabotaged that that highlighted

1084
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:57,600
the the incident where a UFO
shut off nuclear reactors that

1085
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:08,640
were that were being worked on
or brought up on by various

1086
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:11,560
nuclear workers there at the
base.

1087
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:18,400
I'm not 100% sure as to what the
story was, but it is well

1088
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:26,000
documented that whatever was
there at the time was orange and

1089
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,200
it had affected whatever that
they were doing with their

1090
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,680
nuclear weapons during that
night.

1091
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:46,320
The the effect from this was a a
ton of UFO related projects,

1092
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:54,680
mainly Grudge Bluebeam and what
was the other one?

1093
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,600
Jeff, do you remember what the
first one was called?

1094
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:01,200
Grudge, Bluebeam and.
Shit, what's that?

1095
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,440
No Allsap, Allsap and ATIP are
modern.

1096
01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:10,720
Those are the ones that Elizondo
work for.

1097
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:15,360
So many fucking projects man.
I don't even know.

1098
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:16,440
Dude.
When you say it, I'll be like

1099
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:31,160
Operation Frank.
Anyways, let's see Grudge Sign

1100
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:38,000
Project Sign, Project Grudge and
Project Blue Book were mostly

1101
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:45,400
started in in response to the
attacks or the manipulation of

1102
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:51,880
nuclear silos in the northern
tiered Air Force bases of the

1103
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,800
phase Three or the speaking.
Of projects.

1104
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:56,880
Can I interrupt you for a
second?

1105
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,880
Yeah, I think it's interesting.
I don't know you've been keeping

1106
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:02,640
up with current events at all in
your sickness.

1107
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,560
This whole project Stargate.
Have I been staying up with

1108
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,680
Project Stargate?
Do you know what project

1109
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:10,360
Stargate is?
I've I.

1110
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,280
Heard about project Stargate, I
don't off the top of my head and

1111
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:17,600
know exactly what it is now.
So this is a new project.

1112
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:21,120
This is a brand new project.
Project Stargate is like a new

1113
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,960
AI thing, right?
So they're building all these

1114
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,880
massive data centers in the US
and these giant fucking mega AI

1115
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,880
plants and nuclear power plants
to power them and all this

1116
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,840
stuff, right?
And they're calling it Project

1117
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:33,800
Stargate.
And I just think it's

1118
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,160
interesting that they're calling
it Project Stargate.

1119
01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:39,480
It's almost as if they're using
that to flood the Internet with

1120
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,840
this new project that's publicly
known to cover up the old

1121
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,800
Project Stargate that not a lot
of people know about.

1122
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,120
Because if you Google Project
Stargate right now, of course

1123
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,520
you're going to get the AI shit,
Trump, you know, the data

1124
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:54,800
center, blah, blah, blah, blah,
blah.

1125
01:07:55,200 --> 01:08:00,080
You're not going to find the
original project Stargate that

1126
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,760
they were doing like spooky
fucking ESP shit and and all

1127
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,920
kinds of, you know, crazy CIA I.
Wonder if it's because of this

1128
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:13,720
whole CE five thing because CE5
and the original project

1129
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:17,680
Stargate has a lot of
similarities.

1130
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:22,439
Maybe, man, but you know, it
also made me think too, is it

1131
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:23,800
possible?
Because you know, you hear

1132
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,319
people like Elon Musk and these
fucking tech people, they talk

1133
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:29,240
about like our new AI gods are
coming, right?

1134
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,800
And it's like, you know, there's
something to that.

1135
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,240
I think where they they really
believe this shit.

1136
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:37,399
I think these cults believe this
shit and they think that

1137
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,840
building these super intelligent
AI systems are going to somehow

1138
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:47,760
like bridge us to whatever,
right?

1139
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,960
Call it another dimension or
call it the spirit world or the

1140
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,800
demonic realm, whatever you want
to call it.

1141
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,800
Like I think they're building
these data Centers for that and

1142
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,160
they're flooding the Internet
with the information so that we

1143
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,880
don't start not not just so that
we don't.

1144
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,520
I think that's just like a
cherry on top.

1145
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,279
Flood the Internet with the word
Stargate.

1146
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:09,520
So they can't find the old
Stargate, but also it's like a

1147
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,040
little wink and a nod, like,
hey, we're going to call this

1148
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,800
Stargate, and this is how we're
going to communicate with the

1149
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:17,640
stars.
Like literally we're going to

1150
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:20,200
use AI to communicate with our
fucking gods.

1151
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,359
It's interesting.
I wonder why they would.

1152
01:09:22,359 --> 01:09:27,720
I wonder why they would recycle.
That's the question too, right?

1153
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,279
Yeah, that's, I know that's what
you're asking.

1154
01:09:30,279 --> 01:09:34,680
I don't know why I reiterated
it, but it's it is interesting

1155
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,080
because yeah, you're right,
because I just Googled it and

1156
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:44,399
that's all I'm getting right now
is this American artificial

1157
01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:47,439
intelligent joint venture
created by Open AI, SoftBank,

1158
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,760
Oracle and investment firm MGK.
The venture plans on investing

1159
01:09:52,640 --> 01:10:01,520
up to $500 billion US in AI
infrastructure by 2029.

1160
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,240
It's interesting, man.
Sorry, I didn't mean to like

1161
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,080
derail the UFO conversation, but
we were talking about projects

1162
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,760
and made me think of that.
And I think that it's super

1163
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,000
interesting because again, I
think that these people are in a

1164
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,000
cult.
They're in, in what I would call

1165
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,960
the Saturn death cult.
And they've been talking about a

1166
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,280
golden age.
They've been talking about

1167
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,760
bringing about a golden age.
Check this out right.

1168
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,440
Do you think that this AI is
their their God?

1169
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,800
Their entity.
Yes, listen, I think literally,

1170
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,080
I think this man, because if you
look at CERN, right, we all know

1171
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,920
Cern's been up to spooky shit
this whole time.

1172
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:39,560
They got a statue of Shiva in
the front, OK God is a fucking

1173
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,080
destruction and rebirth, OK?
And then they've been talking

1174
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,600
about this golden age that
they've been trying to bring

1175
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,080
back for literally thousands of
years, OK.

1176
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:51,320
And the tech people who have all
been involved in transhumanism

1177
01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:54,960
and eugenics going back to like
World War Two, OK?

1178
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:58,960
They're the same people who
dumped all the funding and are

1179
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,680
involved in all the the
programs, right?

1180
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,480
The WEFS and the fucking
trilateral commissions and all

1181
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:09,000
these organizations that are
literally backing all of this AI

1182
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,400
shit.
OK, I literally think they're

1183
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,400
trying to build what they're
calling their gods, their AI

1184
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,880
gods, or they're bridging a
portal to communicate with these

1185
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,200
things.
And when they're calling it the

1186
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,480
golden age, and this is another
thing you can look up to, type

1187
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:26,280
in Google this, Google the
golden age.

1188
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,040
Just Google that and you'll see
the connection from what you

1189
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,000
just googled before.
This is a fun game.

1190
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,160
What do you see?
You see Trump, you see Trump's

1191
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:39,320
quotes, the golden age.
OK, well, it that's that's the

1192
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,160
whole thing.
If you listen to his speech, he

1193
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,640
went to the fucking World
Economic Forum, the Davos.

1194
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:47,200
He went to Davos the other day
and he basically he was saying

1195
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:49,200
it in the way that he says
things, right.

1196
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,000
It's all coded.
I'm I'm a little bit QE all

1197
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,240
right, I'm a little Q anonish.
He he says things that are coded

1198
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,400
and he says this is America's
golden age.

1199
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,280
And the way he says is he
enunciates the golden age part.

1200
01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:03,800
He's very clear about repeating
the Golden Age.

1201
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:08,200
I have an article right here and
the first sentence is President

1202
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:13,520
Donald Trump, with his usual
bombast, has declared that his

1203
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:17,800
second term will be a new golden
age for the country.

1204
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,600
I.
Mean he said it in his freaking

1205
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,520
in his freaking speech, he said
this is the the beginning of the

1206
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:28,000
golden age of America, he said
in.

1207
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:31,000
The same speech, in the same
speech he he said he was going

1208
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:35,000
to that we were going to be the
capital of fucking AI and

1209
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:36,720
crypto, right?
Yeah.

1210
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:40,960
And those, those things are all
connected to this, you know, one

1211
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,640
world, new world, you know,
order shit.

1212
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,800
Listen, if you want to talk like
layers on conspiracies, right?

1213
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,840
Like base layer reality.
Yeah.

1214
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,320
I voted for Orange Man because
lesser of two evils on deeper

1215
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,400
levels of conspiracy.
He's probably the Antichrist.

1216
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,480
We're probably about to have
seven years of fucking Ballin,

1217
01:13:01,480 --> 01:13:02,920
dude.
We're going to be awesome for

1218
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:04,320
seven years and it's going to be
super dope.

1219
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:05,720
This is what Creamer always
talks about.

1220
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,440
She's going to be sweet.
Golden Age.

1221
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:12,320
Then it hits the fan.
Jake will back me up on that,

1222
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:13,560
right?
All right, moving on.

1223
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:20,360
Get this done.
Phase 4 alien abductions, huh?

1224
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,880
No go.
Ahead Phase 4 Alien abductions

1225
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:30,240
CE3 phenomenon which is close
Encounters of the Third Kind,

1226
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:36,640
which was introduced by J Allen
Hynek includes visual sightings

1227
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,320
of extraterrestrial beings
famous cases.

1228
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,440
If you're familiar with what
we've covered here on Infinite

1229
01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:47,960
Rabbit Hole, you'll, you'll
remember Communion, the Whitley

1230
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:53,960
Strieber story, and there's been
a ton of psychological studies

1231
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:58,640
born from this phase, which
increases the focus on

1232
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,920
psychological effects on
abductees.

1233
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:06,960
Now with that being said, there
has also been a lot of

1234
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:15,080
information that has stemmed off
of the abductee phase, most of

1235
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:22,320
which kind of surrounds the,
the, the idea of these

1236
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:32,880
abductions highlighting areas of
the abductee that have to do

1237
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:40,360
with reproduction.
So there was a famous abductee

1238
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:44,280
story told by Budd Hopkins of an
abductee that he called Kathy

1239
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:54,280
who was abducted, had a an egg
taken, had their egg inseminated

1240
01:14:55,200 --> 01:15:04,080
external to her body, incubated,
burped, raised, and she was

1241
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:12,920
reintroduced to her child who
was a human alien hybrid during

1242
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:19,160
a completely separate abduction
case years later.

1243
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:26,520
This phase four or CE3, close
Encounters of the Third Kind is

1244
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:29,960
by far the darkest of the six
phases.

1245
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:38,120
And this is where you get a lot
of the the Hollywood stories, a

1246
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,720
lot of the Hollywood horror
stories, sci-fi stories that

1247
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:47,760
you, that you see such as close
encounters of or I'm sorry, it's

1248
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,920
not even close Encounters, but
the 4th kind movie.

1249
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:58,480
You also get an extension to the
JJ Allen or Yeah J Allen Hynek

1250
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:10,760
table or scale with CE4 and
CE5CE4 which was not added by J

1251
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:20,560
Allen Hynek but rather by
Jacques Valdez who added or

1252
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:26,720
separated CE3 into two separate
categories.

1253
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:34,160
Where CE 3 was merely seeing a
an alien or an extraterrestrial

1254
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:40,120
person or being and C4 was being
taken away from your current

1255
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,800
location or wherever you were
when you saw the being.

1256
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:54,720
CE 5 has 2 separate definitions,
one that was given by Steven

1257
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:59,360
Greer which is what we have just
talked about a little earlier,

1258
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:04,360
being where he believed would be
humans reaching out to

1259
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:09,000
extraterrestrials.
Where Jacques Valet believed

1260
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:15,320
that CE 5 was when there was
some sort of physical evidence

1261
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:24,280
left on a human body.
This here like I said the the

1262
01:17:24,440 --> 01:17:30,040
the lasting impression left by
phase 4 was psychological

1263
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,920
evaluations of abductee Victor.
Any comments on that?

1264
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:39,240
Nothing.
OK, Phase five mysterious large

1265
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:43,400
black triangular craft lasted
from the 1990s to the 20 tens

1266
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:48,600
characteristics of these craft.
Large silent, low flying with

1267
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:53,400
lights at corners.
Noticeably there was also one

1268
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,200
larger white light in the
beginning.

1269
01:17:55,840 --> 01:18:02,080
Notable event the Belgium UFO
wave lasted from 1989 to 1990.

1270
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:11,080
This was a big speculation and
this also the the, the big

1271
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:17,040
outcome from from phase 5 was
the public's perception of the

1272
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,720
government being behind a lot of
UFO activity.

1273
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:26,960
This was the introduction of,
there was a ton of books that

1274
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:29,440
were pushed, a ton of
documentaries that were pushed.

1275
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:37,000
The TR 3B was introduced
introduced to a lot of the

1276
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:44,840
ufology groups and conspiracy
groups and a lot of people

1277
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:48,320
started pointing fingers at the
US government or various

1278
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,200
countries governments and
militaries.

1279
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,080
See, this is the thing, man,
this is what I'm talking about.

1280
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:57,800
Because I've seen that that's
not that's just the easiest

1281
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:02,120
patent to like remember, right?
TR 3B, It's just super easy, OK?

1282
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,960
And it's a triangular
spacecraft.

1283
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:07,280
Boom, everybody knows it.
But there's a lot of different

1284
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,360
patents, man.
I've gone down the list before,

1285
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,040
right?
And I've seen dozens and dozens

1286
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,560
of patents for like anti
gravitic spacecraft, anti

1287
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:19,520
gravitic, this, you know,
gravity manipulation field

1288
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:22,560
generators, like literally all
the shit that you've heard in

1289
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,160
fucking Star Trek.
Like there's patents for these

1290
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,440
things.
Now, that doesn't mean that all

1291
01:19:26,440 --> 01:19:29,240
of these things exist, right?
I can go get something patent

1292
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:32,760
pretty much fucking right now if
I have the money to do it.

1293
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,520
But that's the key is it cost
money to get things, patent

1294
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,440
number one.
And #2 if you look at the patent

1295
01:19:38,440 --> 01:19:41,280
holders on a lot of these
things, not all of them, but a

1296
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:44,600
lot of them, they're, they're
like big holders, right?

1297
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,320
Big money, you know, you have
like Raytheon and you have

1298
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:51,440
Northrop Grumman and you have
like Saint Clair is a big name.

1299
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,120
That's one of the Illuminati
families.

1300
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:57,360
And John St.
Clair, he buys up a lot of these

1301
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:01,360
fucking patents and stuff.
Now, he's got infinitely deep

1302
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:06,400
pockets, right?
So if you have these patents for

1303
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,040
these things and you have
infinitely deep pockets, why

1304
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:10,760
wouldn't you have a bunker
somewhere where somebody's

1305
01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:14,800
trying to build these things?
You know what I mean?

1306
01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:21,800
Yeah, one of the the other
models that come out from this

1307
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:28,080
was the F117 Nighthawk, which
actually was classified top

1308
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:33,000
secret until this phase.
This this phase actually helped

1309
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:39,280
push this this craft into into
declassification.

1310
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:42,600
And I, you know, I think it's
interesting too, because, you

1311
01:20:42,600 --> 01:20:46,720
know, there's another layer on
that because it's one thing to

1312
01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:49,320
go get a patent for this type of
technology.

1313
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,880
Those are public patents.
Everybody knows that if you're

1314
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,880
really going to build some super
secret shit, you're not even

1315
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,600
going to get a patent for it.
So going back to like the older

1316
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,080
stuff, right?
Yeah, sure.

1317
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:05,280
We don't have a patent from the
50s about anti gravitic craft,

1318
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,480
but if we had the patent in the
70s for the anti aggravated

1319
01:21:09,480 --> 01:21:12,720
craft, I would assume that
somebody else had already worked

1320
01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:17,600
on and built anti aggravated
craft in the 40s and 50s and now

1321
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,400
somebody else is trying to build
this technology and they went to

1322
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,120
get the patent.
Sorry, I'm all drugged up I

1323
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:24,440
guess.
That's all good.

1324
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,280
So much meds going on right now.
You know, what's interesting

1325
01:21:28,440 --> 01:21:30,760
again too, is like I want to go
back to that article where I

1326
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:34,960
brought up where the Admiral
said that there was a football

1327
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:38,120
field size craft moving hundreds
of miles an hour under the

1328
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:40,240
ocean, right under the water,
right?

1329
01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:42,560
You know, I don't know what it
looked like.

1330
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,160
I didn't read the whole article,
but I'm assuming that it was

1331
01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:49,920
probably either like spherical
or rectangular shaped of some

1332
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,960
kind.
I just assume that, right, I,

1333
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,640
you know, and going back to what
I said the beginning, like I'll

1334
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,840
be super spooked when something
like amorphous BLOB or like an

1335
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,400
organic craft shows up or some
kind.

1336
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,520
Because then I'm like, wait a
minute.

1337
01:22:04,520 --> 01:22:06,760
Like we wouldn't build that,
right?

1338
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:12,240
Like we would build spherical
craft, triangular craft, cubicle

1339
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,400
craft, you know, these types of
craft I feel like humans would

1340
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,200
build because it's geometrically
sound.

1341
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,320
That's just what we do.
But like something from another

1342
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:23,480
planet or whatever, like they're
going to build some starfish

1343
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,360
craft or some fucking weird, you
know what I mean?

1344
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:30,480
Jellyfish Craft.
Be it'd be be weird.

1345
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:35,760
It's it's what was it?
There was a movie that came out

1346
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:43,400
years ago where these large
black Oval shaped craft landed

1347
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:50,360
and these alien beings were
stuck behind glass.

1348
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,960
And they were, they were
communicating by like ink spray.

1349
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,960
You know what I'm talking about.
No.

1350
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:05,720
And I thought that was always a
really interesting, interesting

1351
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:10,800
movie because it had a whole new
concept of communication to it.

1352
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:12,640
And I think that's that's more
or less.

1353
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,320
I know, I know you're talking.
About are you talking about

1354
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,000
arrival?
Yes, that's what I'm talking

1355
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,280
about.
I don't think I've ever seen

1356
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,320
that movie, but I was intrigued
so I googled it.

1357
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:24,440
It's called Arrival and it came
out in 2016.

1358
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:26,960
Yeah, that was a pretty good
movie.

1359
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:30,400
Now, it didn't have a different
form of transportation like

1360
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,640
you're talking about, but it did
have a completely new form of

1361
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:41,400
communication where they they
talked in sort of like a like a

1362
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:45,400
like how a squid would eject
ink.

1363
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,120
They did something similar and
they, they talked in like these

1364
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:54,800
circular patterns where the, you
know, the, I don't know, their

1365
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,520
sentence would, would be a
circle.

1366
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:59,200
And then like the little
patterns around the, the circle

1367
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:04,560
would, would be their sentence.
It was, it was a very

1368
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,760
interesting form of
communication.

1369
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:15,240
But if you applied that to
things such as transportation

1370
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:22,880
vehicles, it'd be interesting to
see like let's say a vehicle

1371
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:28,480
made out of liquid, right?
Or plasma.

1372
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,080
Those are the ones that I'm
interested in like there's and

1373
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,160
I've only seen maybe one or, or
heard of one or two of these

1374
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,880
sightings in modern times where
and I think one of them was one

1375
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,840
of these pilots.
And he said that it was, it

1376
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:46,920
looked more like a, a cube with
a sphere inside or a sphere with

1377
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,440
a cube inside.
I think is what he said.

1378
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:51,280
It was like a cube with a sphere
inside of it.

1379
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,000
Well, you've seen the you've
seen the jellyfish UFO, right?

1380
01:24:55,000 --> 01:25:00,400
What do you think about that?
Probably fake, probably CGI or

1381
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,680
or a prop of some kind it.
Looked like an Imperial Droid.

1382
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:07,120
I thought we determined.
Yeah, it's an Imperial Droid.

1383
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,000
No, I don't know.
I'd have to look at it again, to

1384
01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:10,880
be honest with you.
And maybe maybe it was good

1385
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,640
enough.
But you get what I'm saying

1386
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,560
though.
Like my whole thing is if if it

1387
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:18,520
looks like something that a
human would make, it's probably

1388
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,880
something you would make.
And I don't think I've seen

1389
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:26,120
hardly anything, one or two
stories ever that are like,

1390
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:29,120
whoa, that's like some.
But why some?

1391
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,320
Shit.
Why couldn't a being that

1392
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,480
thought like a human make the
same thing that a human would

1393
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:35,760
make?
Why?

1394
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,720
What makes you think that they
would think like a human?

1395
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:40,880
Why not?
Why would they?

1396
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:45,120
Well, I mean depending on the
creatures and their planets or

1397
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,680
something like that.
Well, this is like the like if

1398
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,040
you want to get into like debate
theory type shit, right?

1399
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:54,840
Like you make the claim that
they would think like humans.

1400
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:56,960
Well, I'm.
Not there's no evidence.

1401
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:58,880
I can't, I can't cite any
evidence.

1402
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,240
They would think like the way
that we do.

1403
01:26:01,240 --> 01:26:08,480
Obviously, I I can't what what's
it called when you say something

1404
01:26:08,480 --> 01:26:10,120
and someone says something
opposite?

1405
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,280
Will they have the what's the
term, Jeff?

1406
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:17,240
You know it.
What?

1407
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:18,640
What are you?
What are you getting at?

1408
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,480
Sorry.
If you were to make a claim, say

1409
01:26:21,480 --> 01:26:26,360
like the ocean is so many feet
deep, right, and someone said

1410
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:31,840
no, you're wrong, they would
have the argument of what's the

1411
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:34,520
what's the term?
I don't fucking know bro I'm

1412
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,560
just saying they.
Have to claim their, their

1413
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,920
thought, right?
They can't just make that claim.

1414
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,720
Then you're like, OK, cool,
well, well I'm going to defend

1415
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,080
it, right?
So they have to argument that

1416
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:47,920
and prove to you why they think
that's wrong, right?

1417
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,920
So I don't have that when it
comes to aliens, right?

1418
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:58,840
Making spaceships or, or, or
aquatic ships that look like

1419
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:00,840
jellyfish, right?
Yeah.

1420
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,360
Well, that's the point.
There's no reason that we would

1421
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,320
assume that these beings from
another planet would make

1422
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,640
anything that would resemble
something that we would be

1423
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:09,400
making.
Right.

1424
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:13,520
Why wouldn't something from an
inner earth perspective make

1425
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,040
something from an outer earth
perspective like a jellyfish?

1426
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:19,280
Possible that that could be
possible, right?

1427
01:27:19,280 --> 01:27:21,800
Like, you know, I'm not
discounting that there could be

1428
01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,600
things from inside the planet,
right?

1429
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:29,680
Like I'm just standing on on my
beliefs that space is fake and

1430
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,680
gay.
So like things coming from outer

1431
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,760
space, like, you know, I'm just
trying to make the argument here

1432
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,560
like there's nothing coming from
Spade, nothing's coming here.

1433
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:41,600
Casually threw that one in.
Yeah.

1434
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,520
It's it's, it's it's like his go
to when he's backed up against a

1435
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,120
wall, it's like.
I'm not backed up against

1436
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:49,680
anything.
I'm making a very clear

1437
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,160
argument.
There's no reason to assume that

1438
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:56,800
aliens would be making a fucking
triangle craft a saucer, craft

1439
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:59,080
any of these things.
Now there again, there's only a

1440
01:27:59,080 --> 01:28:02,040
handful of things that are like
out of the ordinary things that

1441
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:03,720
are just like mind boggling.
Like what?

1442
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:06,200
The wheel of Ezekiel is one of
them, right?

1443
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,640
Like what?
You know the what I was telling

1444
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,800
you about this pilot.
That's all like the cube with

1445
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,960
the sphere inside, which could
be a similar thing to this wheel

1446
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:17,720
of Ezekiel type thing, right?
It's like those are weird things

1447
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:19,800
that we're probably not
building.

1448
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,040
Maybe we are, but it makes more
sense to me that we're building

1449
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:27,480
craft that are aerodynamic and
hydrodynamic, that can fly and

1450
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:32,560
like do these types of things,
but we're not building these

1451
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,920
other types of structures.
Like you can't even.

1452
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,640
There's no words for these
structures.

1453
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,880
We get to a point because
there's nothing we can prove

1454
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:45,640
here in this chat room that
space is real.

1455
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:52,200
Yeah, we look up at every night
and we see all the luminaries,

1456
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,200
we see the moon and all that
sort of stuff and all of his

1457
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,520
phases.
But we can't really prove

1458
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:01,480
because none of us are
astronauts, right, That the moon

1459
01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:04,920
is real and things like that.
So I, I understand where Jeff is

1460
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:08,040
coming from.
I still think he's full of shit,

1461
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,520
right?
But I understand where he's

1462
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,840
coming from.
But the same time, like what's

1463
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:19,000
to say these things are actually
coming from outer space versus

1464
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:22,360
our own planet?
And in which case that could be

1465
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,000
so many things that could be our
own government.

1466
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:26,240
They could be a foreign
government.

1467
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:31,760
They could be the inner Earth.
They could, they could be a not

1468
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:36,600
from the inner, from a landmass
we don't even know about, right?

1469
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,120
Because I don't know, because
I'm not an oceanic explorer.

1470
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:47,640
I'm not a astrophysicist, I'm
not a geographer, I'm not any of

1471
01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,080
these sorts of things.
So, yeah, according to Jeff,

1472
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:55,240
what he's claiming, I mean, I
guess could be real because

1473
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,920
literally I have no way of
saying no to them except through

1474
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:04,640
the Internet.
And sometimes we can't always

1475
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:09,760
see that what the Internet says
is true in relation to, like,

1476
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:11,480
the MLK files.
It could.

1477
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:13,400
It could be baloney.
It could be real.

1478
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,280
No one can honestly know unless
you're there with them.

1479
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,360
Like, someone could say that I'm
a murderer.

1480
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,080
OK, cool.
They could say I murdered

1481
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,000
someone today, all right, cool.
And they could have a whole

1482
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,600
thing written up about it.
But unless someone was there

1483
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,760
with me today, all throughout
the day I was watching movies

1484
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:37,240
with my wife, they would have no
idea whether I was a murderer or

1485
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:41,280
I wasn't.
And it could be very convincing

1486
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:44,560
depending on what I was doing.
Say I was making a hydrogen

1487
01:30:46,320 --> 01:30:53,320
engine for a Toyota Tundra, and
some government agency wanted to

1488
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,160
cover that up.
And they were super sincere

1489
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,280
about it.
And they put a letterhead on all

1490
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,760
the sort of stuff.
Some people say that's true,

1491
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:03,720
that I went out to Walgreens and
killed someone today.

1492
01:31:05,360 --> 01:31:07,640
My wife would know that was
there with her watching movies

1493
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,680
all day, and we went to
Walgreens to get her some

1494
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:13,760
tampons and that was it.
You know, I mean, but you add

1495
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:17,960
those sorts of things into there
and unless you're there with

1496
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:22,600
them or you're able to study the
same things and verify that it's

1497
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,240
true or false, you really don't
know.

1498
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:30,000
I think that's the scary thing
about where we're at today.

1499
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:36,480
It's frustrating because we
don't know the truth, because we

1500
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:39,760
see an official letterhead.
Jeremy, you, you know me, right?

1501
01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:42,400
We see an official military
letterhead.

1502
01:31:42,440 --> 01:31:44,720
We, we think that's, that's the
real thing.

1503
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:47,880
But it could be bullshit.
It could all be bullshit.

1504
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:53,120
Yeah.
But we see that as prior

1505
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:56,400
military and we're like, yeah,
that looks official to me.

1506
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:02,240
Could be plagiarized, right?
Other people see that that

1507
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,680
aren't prior military and
they're like, holy shit, this is

1508
01:32:06,480 --> 01:32:09,200
military letterhead.
It's got to be real.

1509
01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:11,280
Could be bullshit the whole
time.

1510
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,120
They could do that to all of us.
They could do that for the JFK

1511
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,000
files, They could do that for
the Martin Luther King files.

1512
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:20,720
They could do that for the moon
landing.

1513
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:26,800
They can do that for everything.
It's so frustrating for us as

1514
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:31,200
people that want to report on
this stuff, to report the truth

1515
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,360
and not be looked at as, you
know, shills.

1516
01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:40,680
I want to believe my government,
but Dang it, it's getting real

1517
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,480
hard to.
I agree 100% actually.

1518
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,960
And with AI and everything, it's
making it even harder now to.

1519
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:52,080
Oh my gosh, it's so rough.
Like, like we were expecting,

1520
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,600
you know, Trump to come in.
He was going to release all

1521
01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,480
these files and he signed an
executive order for it.

1522
01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,840
But what's to say that all these
files aren't also tainted with

1523
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:05,120
bullshit files, right?
And the fact that they were

1524
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:07,360
trying to smear the guy, who's
to say?

1525
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:10,080
They're not dropping all this
information just to stir the pot

1526
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,320
and cause chaos and outrage,
right?

1527
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,800
Instead of actually giving us
the truth, they're just making

1528
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:17,360
something up just to cause.
An outrage because there is

1529
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:18,920
that.
No, it's a distraction.

1530
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,840
There is that as well.
But also, you know, we know that

1531
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:27,480
the US government for a long
time has been just full of crap,

1532
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:30,040
right?
They've been just stirring the

1533
01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,000
pot and stirring the pot and
stirring the pot.

1534
01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:35,560
And they make these things say,
like the Philadelphia

1535
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:40,160
experiment, right?
Things that weren't crazy, but

1536
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:43,720
make them top secret.
So what's to say that all the

1537
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:47,120
files we're getting at the
moment aren't just bullshit

1538
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:51,400
files they made of just nonsense
where they were just trying to

1539
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,000
frame the guys be like, well,
it's the easiest thing to non

1540
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,960
class or declassify rather.
So we're going to release these

1541
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:00,760
first.
And these were the smear

1542
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:04,320
campaigns.
These were, you know, on Martin

1543
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:09,280
Luther King Junior.
It was on, you know, JFK or

1544
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:10,760
whatever it was, right?
It was just.

1545
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,920
This goes back to the to the
victor's writing history books

1546
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,440
thing, man, is because it's
happening right in front of us

1547
01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:18,120
all the time, right?
Like now, I'm not going to say

1548
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:20,880
that everything that the United
States puts out will forever be

1549
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,120
seen as truth because that's not
going to be the case.

1550
01:34:23,480 --> 01:34:28,160
But currently, right now, the
United States is power and power

1551
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:31,000
is projecting truth to the
world.

1552
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,760
So when when power puts out, hey
man, this is what happened.

1553
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:39,360
The world accepts it as truth
and it gets, you know, embedded

1554
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:43,440
in history.
Now it might be 100 years, 500

1555
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:45,840
year, however long it is in the
future till somebody comes about

1556
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,160
and says, hey, man, like that
was actually false.

1557
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,840
But not all of the shit gets
caught, right?

1558
01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:54,800
Like, right, very few things get
caught that get misconstrued

1559
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,840
through history.
So the timelines, the history,

1560
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:00,000
it's all fucking bullshit.
And I think that the, the age of

1561
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:02,360
knowing that we're going to this
age of Aquarius is age of

1562
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:05,000
knowing, this age of
information, this golden age,

1563
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:09,280
this AI information age is all
just, it's exactly what you're

1564
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:13,840
saying, bro.
They're all putting out bullshit

1565
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:17,040
to get us all to accept the
things as truth, right?

1566
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:20,160
Trump's going to do these again.
I voted for the guy, but he's

1567
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:22,160
going to come out and he's going
to do all out of this shit where

1568
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,160
it's like, hey, man, I'm
releasing the documents.

1569
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,560
I'm telling you the truth now.
What actually happened on

1570
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,400
January 6th?
What actually happened here and

1571
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:31,680
there, right?
But at the same time, like

1572
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,080
that's going to soften up a lot
of the people who are self

1573
01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,120
thinkers and critical thinkers.
They're going to be like, oh

1574
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:38,600
look, we're getting the truth
finally.

1575
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,760
We're getting the truth finally.
We're getting the truth finally.

1576
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:47,320
But you're not right.
You just suck in a whole nother

1577
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:50,360
class of the people, the people
who were critically thinking and

1578
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,160
thinking for themselves.
It's a big psyop.

1579
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:55,360
It's a distraction, like Kid
said.

1580
01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:59,920
As interested as I am in these
files and these documents, yeah,

1581
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:03,440
they, they can't be like they
have to be the distraction.

1582
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:05,920
There's got to be something more
going on.

1583
01:36:06,440 --> 01:36:08,680
I just don't.
Understand, I just don't

1584
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:13,320
understand why there has to be a
like a the 60 day wait like

1585
01:36:13,320 --> 01:36:15,240
that.
That right there just just

1586
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:17,400
screams.
Yeah, that's flag, Yeah.

1587
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,200
They're gonna be dropped the.
Documents so much crap like.

1588
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:25,240
Yeah, like what's the point of
any redactions if there's an

1589
01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,840
executive order that says
release this shit?

1590
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:32,680
I mean, the there shouldn't be
any reason that as soon as pen

1591
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:37,440
hits paper for that order, there
should because you should be

1592
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:41,320
walking over there and because
opening up the file cabinet and

1593
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,560
pulling that shit out and
dropping it on the counter.

1594
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,720
If the public knew what the
truth was not just about MLK,

1595
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,960
but about JFK and RFK and all
these these events that have

1596
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,880
happened in history, right?
Them creating his story history,

1597
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:58,760
OK, like the Gulf of Tonkin and
all this type of shit, because

1598
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:02,160
that's in those files too, right
and now that's not even a secret

1599
01:37:02,160 --> 01:37:03,520
anymore.
It's public information that the

1600
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,320
Gulf of Tonkin incident, the
reason that we went to Vietnam,

1601
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:10,680
right, was not as they told us
when we went OK, They, they

1602
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,840
bullshat us just like they
bullshat us about weapons of

1603
01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:16,480
mass destruction, right, just
like they bullshat us about all

1604
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:20,840
these things, OK, if, if the
information on the files comes

1605
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:27,120
out 100% unredacted, the entire
world would fucking lose their

1606
01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:29,400
minds because they'd be like,
wait, are you telling me that

1607
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,360
the last, you know, 60 to 70
years has just been a complete

1608
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:38,240
sham everything.
And and it would be a a

1609
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:41,680
collapse, but it wouldn't just
be American population being

1610
01:37:41,680 --> 01:37:44,440
pissed off it'd be the whole
world would be pissed because

1611
01:37:44,440 --> 01:37:47,800
we've gone into every country,
right Vietnam, for instance,

1612
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:49,960
just to stick on that was not a
military action.

1613
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:52,520
It was a police action, right?
Like we went in there as a

1614
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,680
fucking police force and did
this shit off of a lie, right.

1615
01:37:56,680 --> 01:37:58,720
So imagine what the
international community does

1616
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,400
when that comes out as truth
because the files get released

1617
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:04,560
unredacted.
This is why there's a fucking

1618
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,320
waiting period and they have to
redact shit.

1619
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,840
It's not just because like, oh,
Frank ordered the head.

1620
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,280
No, no no.
It's like the implications that

1621
01:38:12,280 --> 01:38:16,480
go way deeper than that.
Like the world you know, net

1622
01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:18,520
gets fucking tangled and shit,
you know?

1623
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:21,360
All right, I got to wrap this up
guys.

1624
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:24,480
I am so tired.
Yeah, it's almost 11:00.

1625
01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:27,840
What the fuck?
Yeah, Jeff.

1626
01:38:28,120 --> 01:38:30,880
Jeff's bedtime, clearly.
All right, last.

1627
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:34,880
One way past that.
Phase 6 pilots interacting and

1628
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:39,640
recording UAP Government
acknowledgement 2010 to today.

1629
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:44,240
Modern sightings increased pilot
reports, both civilian and

1630
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:47,880
military leaked footage.
This is when we got the gimbal,

1631
01:38:47,880 --> 01:38:54,720
Tic Tac and go Fast videos
confirmed in 2021 and from this

1632
01:38:54,720 --> 01:39:00,280
we got official recognition from
Congress and the formation of

1633
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:02,320
government, new government task
force.

1634
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:08,840
And that's it.
That is the six phases of modern

1635
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:10,880
UFO history.
No, we took the.

1636
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:17,280
One big fucking SOP.
All wrapped up in one big

1637
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:21,640
fucking SOP.
No, I don't think so.

1638
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:25,200
I think there's a lot of things
wrapped up in a SOP, but there's

1639
01:39:25,200 --> 01:39:27,160
some things that aren't.
I can't tell you what those

1640
01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,960
things are, right?
I couldn't say, well, this is

1641
01:39:30,960 --> 01:39:34,440
SOP and this isn't a SOP and
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1642
01:39:34,440 --> 01:39:37,280
I can't say that.
But I think there's some things

1643
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:41,320
that the government does know
and there's things that the

1644
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:44,960
government doesn't know because
the government isn't all

1645
01:39:44,960 --> 01:39:48,840
knowing.
They can try to be, but they

1646
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:50,040
aren't.
Just like they didn't know what

1647
01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,520
the drones were.
What's that?

1648
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:54,560
Yeah, I'm waiting on that shit
too.

1649
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:58,440
That's pissed me.
Off No, no, no, not the drones

1650
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:04,720
I'm talking about like everyday
type stuff like you, you just

1651
01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:09,680
said it.
Someone made put $50.00 into the

1652
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,440
meme coins and made $3.2
million.

1653
01:40:12,440 --> 01:40:18,440
So if the guy want to make a
drone like a drop a a nuclear

1654
01:40:18,440 --> 01:40:24,360
warhead on Washington.
As long as he use AVPN, who's to

1655
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:28,200
say who knows about what, right?
It's awful.

1656
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,920
It's awful to think about.
I would encourage anyone not to,

1657
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:35,640
but who's to say what anyone
knows about what?

1658
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:41,400
So yes, the government knows
about a lot of stuff, and no,

1659
01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,760
the government doesn't know
about all this stuff.

1660
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:46,640
The government doesn't know shit
bro.

1661
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:47,920
Nobody said it was the
government.

1662
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,320
If they knew about all the
stuff, they would be able to

1663
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:56,160
prevent every single freaking
assassination attempt.

1664
01:40:56,280 --> 01:41:01,320
Or they do and they're just
waiting around, like maybe it

1665
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,720
happens, Who knows?
Hey, we'll chew some beers

1666
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:05,560
later.
It's not the government.

1667
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:11,160
The government's so corrupt.
Dude, I, I don't know, maybe

1668
01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:13,760
they know about everything and
they're just waiting around.

1669
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:16,160
They're just like, yeah, if it
happens, who?

1670
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:19,160
Government can't build a road,
but it's not the government.

1671
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,480
Not local.
Go local government.

1672
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,840
All right, kid.
Jeremy.

1673
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:32,600
Thanks for showing up.
I'm glad I could make it.

1674
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,080
I'm glad you guys invited me.
I had.

1675
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:35,800
This was a good episode.
I had fun.

1676
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,000
It was.
It was Jake's idea, man.

1677
01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,600
Thank Jake.
You had a good, good idea, Jake.

1678
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:42,440
Thank you.
Appreciate you talking.

1679
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,320
Jeremy wasn't going to be here
today.

1680
01:41:44,840 --> 01:41:47,680
Yeah, I almost couldn't.
Yeah, I was, I was told you

1681
01:41:47,680 --> 01:41:49,880
weren't going to be here.
I was like, OK, well, I will

1682
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:51,120
step in.
And then you were here.

1683
01:41:51,120 --> 01:41:54,640
I was like, oh bonus, I I get to
hang out with all the guys

1684
01:41:54,640 --> 01:41:56,880
tonight.
Yeah, well, just in case they

1685
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,160
end up broken my throat out and
I can't record for another

1686
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:03,360
month, I figured I'd try to be
here today.

1687
01:42:05,160 --> 01:42:10,640
Makes sense?
So, but well, you guys got any

1688
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,120
final thoughts?
Thanks for having me, this was

1689
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,120
fun.
We'll have to do it again soon.

1690
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:21,000
That's all I got.
All right, Well, Jake, Nope.

1691
01:42:22,440 --> 01:42:24,400
Well, there's been another
episode of the Infinite Rabbit

1692
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,560
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1693
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,040
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1694
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:30,760
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1695
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,000
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1696
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,080
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01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,960
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1705
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