207. Skinwalker Ranch, Drone Updates, Ley Lines, and Energy

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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole podcast.

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I'm your host, Jeremy.
Today we don't know what we're

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talking about at all.
Like at all at all.

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There was absolutely 0
conversation about the

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possibilities of what we're
going to talk about today.

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There's no Jake, He, he
requested us to, to do this on

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our own today.
I don't know what's going on.

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Catch up with him later, see
what's going, see what's

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happening.
Hopefully it's nothing serious,

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but it'll be just old Jeffrey
and I.

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Jeff, what's going on?
Dude, how you been?

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Chilling bro, hanging out,
working.

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Good stuff, man.
Good.

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Yeah, I have had a, I've had
myself a crazy two weeks, man.

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It's been It's a nut.
Yeah, he almost died.

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I did.
I found out that I have walking

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pneumonia.
It's not, it's not that bad.

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But so we had influenza A come
through the house.

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All six of us got it.
My wife, myself and my four

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kids, we all caught it.
And I'm the only one that has

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this lingering walking
pneumonia.

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Apparently I have fluid in one
of my lungs and I, I'll wake up

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and I'll be, I'll have all the
energy in the world.

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I'll get, I'll kick ass, tick
names and get shit done, you

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know, for an hour and then it'll
just hit me out.

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I'll lose all my energy, I'll
start coughing, I'll get a major

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headache, and I'll just want to
sleep.

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And yeah, I'll pretty much be
useless.

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I'll need a nap in the middle of
the day and pop some Advil

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Migraine.
Well, I went down to the, to

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the, to The Walking urgent care
shortly after the last recording

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and they were like, yeah, you,
you have some fluid in your

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lungs, man.
Pretty sure you have walking

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pneumonia or what they call
acute ammonia.

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And they said that because it
was viral that there's not

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really anything we can do about
it.

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If it was bacterial, then they'd
be able to give me the, the

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stuff, right?
The antibodies or and

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antibiotics and but because it's
viral just got to let it run its

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course but it's kicking my ass
man it's like today wasn't was

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like the first day where it
wasn't that bad yesterday I

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spent three hours on my my
midday just laying on the couch

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with my face in the pillow
because I just couldn't open my

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eyes my head hurt so bad but.
Sucks dude.

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Yeah, yeah.
And I've already used up all my

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sick time for for work.
So that's all gone for the rest

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of the year.
That's pretty cool.

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That sucks too.
Yeah, but I got, I got vacation

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time and stuff that I can use up
if, if need be.

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But yeah, I mean, hope,
hopefully we're we're on the the

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fast track recovery now and
hopefully every day gets better

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like today.
Today was tenfold better than

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yesterday.
But forgive me, you know, if, if

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if you're listening and you hear
me drinking water and eating

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some cough drops and coughing
into the mic and being rude and

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stuff.
I'm having a little bit a little

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bit of trouble keeping up.
Yeah.

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So I apologize ahead of time for
that.

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Don't have a headache?
Right now, but on the plus side,

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I finally got my fucking UFO
days poster.

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Did you?
Yeah, Crystal got her shirt.

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Oh, Jake sent it.
That's good.

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Thanks, Jake.
Yeah.

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And you know what the fucked up
thing is?

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He sent it in this nice,
beautiful frame and everything.

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I was like, oh, dude, you framed
it for me.

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And as I was putting it up, I
dropped it and now the frame is

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broken.
So.

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I bought the frame.
Oh, well, there you go.

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Yeah.
You're welcome.

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It made it here safe.
My chest.

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My chest don't hurt so it's
strange.

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Feels like, I don't know, it's
like I, it's like I used to be a

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smoker, like way back in the
day.

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I used to, I just smoked like 2
packs of cigarettes and woke up.

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But yeah.
So I, for those of you that that

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don't know, I'm going to start
spreading the word now.

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I, I got a new project right
around the corner.

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I'm not ready to announce
exactly what it is, what the

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name of it is, and show you guys
all the cool artwork and all the

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fun stuff yet, but it's coming
soon.

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I've been spending a lot of this
downtime working on that because

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it's, it's literally the only
thing that I can do.

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But it's pretty, it's pretty
fun.

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And I, I think, I think, I think
I enlisted the wife to finally

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help me out with something.
She was, she was more willing to

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help me because it was only me.
She's kind of shy, so she

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doesn't, she didn't want to put
anybody else down other than me.

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So she's like, she's like, if
I'm only going to hurt you, I

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don't care.
That's fine.

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Damn.
I was like, I'd be, I would be

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so proud to have you join this
this project.

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So that'd be really cool if, if
she does end up helping me out,

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she doesn't want to be behind
the mic.

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And it is a podcast, so we'll
see.

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We'll see.
I hope so.

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That'd be a lot of fun.
That'd be cool.

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Get involved and it's another
thing you guys do.

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Spend time together and shit,
you know it.

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Would be it would be honestly,
you know, unfortunately be one

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of the few things that we do do
together.

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We don't do too much other than
parent.

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But yeah, she's, she's my whole
world man.

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And I, I would, I would welcome
her into one of my projects with

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open arms.
I hope that I hope that it would

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be it would I hope it comes
true, man it I hope she listens

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to this at some point.
And I know she won't.

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I know she won't.
But in case she is one day, I

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hope that she took that leap and
helped me out with my next

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project.
But anyways.

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Hell yeah.
Excuse.

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Me.
Bro so you saw they fucking came

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out about the drones in New
Jersey and said it was a bunch

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of nothing.
Yeah, they said it was the FDA

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or the FAA, sorry.
They said that that it was some

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sort of practice thing that they
were they were testing some sort

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of emergency systems or.
Some sort of?

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Communication thing, but yeah,
but that's bullshit.

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Man, when I say that, I think we
could roll the tape back and I'm

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pretty sure I said, I'm pretty
sure they're just running a a

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test or they're running a
fucking.

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I didn't use the word test.
What was the word?

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I used like a scenario somebody
will run it back.

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I said this.
Yeah, I don't know, man.

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I don't know.
I, I, I feel like that's too

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convenient.
You know, that it's, it's, it's

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too easy to answer it that way.
That I, I feel like if, if there

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was any validity to that, that
would have been something that

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they had come out with right off
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You know, they, they, I.
Don't know, man, see some of the

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stuff that's happening right
now, like, you know, some of the

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incompetence that's been shown
to have been happening over the

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last three or four years, you
know, just in the last couple

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weeks, some of the shit that's
come out, like some of the money

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that they were throwing, you
know, sending what was, I don't

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remember the number, $500
million worth of condoms to

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Gaza.
It's like, OK, bro, like and

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there was countless, countless
programs where it was just

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incompetence like across the
board, right.

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So it's, you know, FAA is like,
yeah, go do your thing.

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And then every other agency is
like, you know, just.

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Yeah, man, I don't, I don't
know, man.

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Hey, I'm I'm tired of this whole
the whole UFO thing.

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I can't explain how much UFO
stuff that I have ingested

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lately, especially over the last
couple weeks it's in.

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It's insane.
I was just talking about this.

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Hopefully I don't ruin this for
him, but Jason Hewlett, our old

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boss man from the Paranormal
Network is getting ready to

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launch his own paranormal
podcast and I just recorded with

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him on his show.
I'll be on his third episode

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whenever he chooses to release
it.

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I think he said he's going to
release it sometime in March and

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so look forward to that.
Anybody listening when Jason

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Hewlett drops his his podcast?
I'll be his 3rd guest.

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And we were talking about it a
little bit and you know, I just

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talked about the, the overload
of UFO and UAP news that's,

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that's been out there and how
it's so hard to keep track of

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now because you have all these
different people that are coming

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forward.
You have so and so said this,

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you know, especially when you
have like, you have these camps

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that are coming out, right?
You have the Elizondo camp and

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you have the, the man.
What's that?

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What's that doctor's fucking
name?

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You know what I'm talking about
Greer, right?

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You got Greer coming out and
then you have that that that

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interview about the egg UFO over
at News Nation.

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And then you have people that
are responding to all this

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stuff, but they're not
responding to all three of them.

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They're only picking and
choosing one at a time and

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they're not being very detailed
about what they're responding

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to.
So it the confusion as to what

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they're responding to.
And then you have a lot of

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people that are just not very
educated about the, the acronyms

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and, and, and you know, what
they're, what they're referring

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to and what they're the acronyms
that they're using isn't

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correct.
Like I was reading this, this

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article the other day about, and
I mean, it was a full length

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article about this whole thing
about a TIP and the UAPTF.

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So if you didn't know, a tip is
the Advanced Aerospace Threat

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Identification Program, which
came out.

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That was where what Louise
Elizondo was the head of as part

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of the, the Pentagon's attempt
to or it's still going on.

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It's just under the, the, the
acronym ARROW now AAROAARO.

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But there this was when the US
military was having issues with

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these, these UA PS And this is
when when the, the UAP name

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really came out during all these
congressional meetings.

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Excuse me.
And they started creating these

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standardized forms for, for
military pilots to fill out

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whenever they had these these
encounters with these

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unidentified aerial phenomena.
Well, we had these this entire,

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this entire article that came
out and I want to say it was CNN

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and I was just reading through
it and they kept talking about

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the UAPTF, which is Unidentified
Aerial Phenomenon Task Force,

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which it it was AI would say
like a spin off organization of,

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of a tip that was specifically
set aside to create a, a report

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for the, for Congress,
specifically for that

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congressional hearing back in
2021, back when.

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Yeah.
What was it?

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What was the the the the main
guy's name in that first

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congressional hearing?
Do you remember?

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You talking about the tatted up
dude?

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Maybe, I don't know.
The journalist or the dude that

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he was interviewing?
No, the the military guy.

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Oh, I don't remember man, if you
said his name I'd probably

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recognize it, but I don't
remember.

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Yeah.
Question for you real quick.

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I'm sorry to throw you off.
Are we live on X as well or just

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on Twitch?
I don't know.

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Oh.
OK.

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Hold on, I'm going to get this
guy his name real quick because

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I know he's going to drive me
nuts if I can't figure out

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remember his name.
No, I guess I'm not going to be

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able to to get it.
Somebody find that for me on the

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chat.
Excuse me everybody.

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Fucking ruin the show just.
Yeah, I know, I know.

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I'm dying.
Just got to got to get better at

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this I guess.
Yeah, I don't know, I'm tired of

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UFO shit too, man, to be honest
with you.

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It's kind of like not it's
interesting to like ponder a

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crazy possibilities, aliens and
interdimensionals.

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Like obviously like it's just
interesting thought experiment

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stuff.
But you know, just thinking

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about it like what's happening
right now around us with that

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kind of thing isn't really like
super interesting to me, to be

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honest with you.
Yeah, Now there's stuff kind of

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in that realm that's interesting
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Like you get into like
Skinwalker Ranch stuff or like,

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you know, weird.
I don't even know if I want to

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use the word paranormal, but
just like, you know, areas that

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seem like portals of some kind
or something weird, like that's

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interesting, you know, and I
understand there's like orbs and

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UFO sightings that happened in
those areas, but I think those

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are much different than like
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if that makes sense.
Well, it's funny that you, that

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you say Skinwalker Ranch
because, you know, I had, I had

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just kind of made the
announcement a little while ago

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that I'm shutting down the, the
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And that was supposed to be
February's topic for the

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Patreon.
And I have since migrated that

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over to the, the, the new
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topics in the new projects.
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paranormal network, Speaking of
Jason Hewlett, I originally did

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the Skinwalker Ranch.
I think we did it in two or

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three parts or whatever.
And it was 21 pages.

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I've now got that up to 68 pages
long.

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Yeah.
And it, there's a lot there,

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man.
And if you want to take a, take

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a, a side sidestep into
Skinwalker Ranch, that's

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something we could talk about
pretty heavily tonight.

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There's a, there's a lot of
history there that I failed to,

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to, to talk about last time.
I don't know necessarily what

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where we would even start, but
basically the gist is if I were

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to summarize Skinwalker Ranch
and to kind of open up people's

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eyes about what what is really
going on there, you have to you

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can't look at Skinwalker Ranch
as the 480 acre property that it

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is in the northeast corner of
Utah in the Uinta Basin.

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You have to look at the Uinta
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The Uinta Basin has a
magnificent history of some of

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the weirdest shit that you'll
ever hear about, mostly in the

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form of UFOs in the form and two
separate categories.

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And that's basically going to be
mimic throughout the world and

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throughout history, right?
You have the, the solid metallic

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craft and then you have the, the
illuminated energy or AKA the

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orb, as many people will refer
to them as.

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Now the earliest mention of
anything strange is back when

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the native tribes the utes and
the I'm going to butcher it, so

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I'm not going to even try.
But I don't have my notes in

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front of me right now, so I'm
just going to stick with that

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for now.
Where the the native tribes had

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this these warring mythological
stories going back and forth

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about their skinwalker legends,
and sooner or later they ended

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up taking on some reality to
them and they started showing up

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in the forms of upright walking,
canine figures, shadow people,

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portals, mind control, and
objects in the sky as well as

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disembodied voices.
Jeez.

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So Fast forward to 74 when a
book by the title of the Utah

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UFO Display by PhD.
Doctor Frank.

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You know what's funny?
Frank Salisbury.

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Here it is right here.
The UFUFO, The Utah UFO Display

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by Frank B Salisbury.
This is the second edition which

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came out in 2010.
The 1st edition came out in 1974

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and in the the the 1st edition,
which I also have over there as

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well, he makes a lot of mentions
about some really, really old

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cases that were put together by
this this gentleman by the name

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of Junior Hicks, who this is
before the the Shermans took

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custody of the the Skinwalker
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So this is before any of the
legend of Skinwalker Ranch made

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its way into mainstream anything
and was really even known

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outside of any.
Honestly wasn't known at all

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because back when Edith and
Kenneth Myers owned the property

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prior to 1994, they owned it.
Since 1933, they've never

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reported anything outside of
their two neighbors, one to the

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east and one to the northwest,
with their adjoining properties

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Which?
Had very seldom conversations

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with the Myers about some of the
happenings on their properties,

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but it was Frank Salisbury who
put together Junior Hicks

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reports from as early as 64 to
the year prior to when this.

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When the 1st edition of this
book was released in 73, he put

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together some 60 different
reports and shut it all in the

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very first chapter of the book
and then use the the next.

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I I think he the total of 10
chapters in the entire book

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where he talked about various
points of view on the the

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subject of just the UFO
phenomenon in the UN to basin

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and he just focused on the Uinta
Basin as a whole, not Skinwalker

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Ranch.
Because remember when this book

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came out, Skinwalker Ranch was
nothing.

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So there was before Skinwalker
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the public.
The area that encompasses

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Skinwalker Ranch and surrounds
it engulfs.

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It was well known for all of
this stuff well prior they had

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things such as they had these
two very common physical craft

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that were commonly reported to
Junior Hicks.

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He was one was called a double
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convex planner.
That those were his own personal

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names that he he prescribed to
these these craft.

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If you look, if you think of the
the terms double convex, this is

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kind of like a, a lens thing,
right?

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So think of like a, a typical
flying saucer, right?

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So it's like this guy, right?
You have the, the convex sphere

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on the top and the convex hatch
sphere on the bottom.

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This was one of the more common
reported shapes of the you went

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to Basin at the time of the
collection of the 1st 60 reports

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from Junior Hicks.
The other one was the convex

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planer, which was half convex,
which was the top portion and

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planer being flat at the bottom,
so like a Dome.

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And then a third one that was
often reported was your orbs,

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which came in many different
colors, mostly in red, white,

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blue-green, yellow.
And there there were many

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different kinds of reports.
And Frank Salisbury, the author

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of the book, did a really,
really, really good job at

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separating some of the most of
these reports because he didn't

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report on all of them, just, you
know, picked and choose which

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ones to really dive into.
But he, he did a good job at

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deciding which ones to do so
with because he he segregated

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ones to really showcase the
differences in The Who, what,

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where, when and why's.
He even included some from

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people outside of who, who lived
from outside of the UN basin.

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And one particular case that
comes to mind was one from a

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hunting group from Salt Lake
City.

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They work for a company and they
were on a company or business

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hunting trip together.
And they were driving along a

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Ridge where they one of the
gentleman noticed a what they

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looked like to be a fire up on a
Ridge.

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And but this this fire, this red
glow seemed to be traveling with

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the truck.
It was mimicking the speed at

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the truck and and moving in the
same direction.

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So the driver stop the truck to
see if the if the glow would

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stop with the truck and it never
did.

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It kept going and as it broke
the peak of the Ridge and and

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and continued out into the open
air, it revealed itself as a

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large glowing fiery red ball to
what the the men described it or

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compared it to as like a harvest
moon.

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You know those really large
orangey red moons that you get

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when they're very, very low in
the horizon?

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And it, it kept floating at
roughly the same speed as how

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the how fast the truck was
moving until it basically just

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completely stopped and hovered
there.

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And, and it revealed itself as
one of those double convex

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shaped craft before it basically
took off directly skyward until

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it almost faded away.
And it as as quick as it it took

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off, it returned almost to the
exact same spot, but slightly

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closer to where they were.
I'll try to move my face then

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kid thinks.
And they watched it for another

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30 seconds.
They did.

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One of the guys had made a
comment about how they believe

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that this thing was was watching
them and waiting for them to

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make a move.
But when they didn't they just

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decided to to to kick rocks and
and leave.

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And where Then it left in the
same fashion as it left the

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first time.
And this time it just decided to

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go then, you know, I mean, we
get a lot of really good

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information.
I'm not going to really bore you

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guys with the, the details of
the, the Shermans or the Robert

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Bigelow eras because we, we dove
into that quite a bit.

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And I don't want to, I don't
want to give away too much, but

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I mean, I've, I've got, like I
said, 68 pages worth of research

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into it.
And there's there's just an

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absolute shit ton of of stuff to
talk about with Skinwalker

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Ranch.
Now.

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Sorry, I kind of took the long
road on there for you there,

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Jeff, but.
Yep, episode's over.

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Good job bro.
Yeah.

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Yeah, I don't know, man.
Like there's a lot of weird

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shit, you know, like the problem
that I have though is that all

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of this to me is just hearsay.
It's just he said she said type

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of stuff.
Because like, I haven't really

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seen anything.
Like even all the videos and

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stuff that you can find on the
Internet of a parent stuff

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that's going on, none of it's
really good, right?

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There's no solid videos.
It's just like, fuck, man.

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It's hard to tell what's real
anymore on top of that.

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So even if you do get a real
good video, it's like, oh, is

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that just some AI, you know,
deep fake shit or something?

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So, but I do think that there is
something to, you know, like

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energy portals on certain places
of the earth and what's going on

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there.
I mean, we could, we could guess

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for ages on what it is or why it
is, but there's definitely

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places where there's like
energy, whatever going on

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portals, you know, Geo man sees
shit, you know, Ley lines,

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whatever the case might be.
I think it's probably more like

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some Ley line grid, energy grid
type situation.

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The ancients probably knew about
it too.

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I personally don't think you're
too far off with that, right?

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But there's, there's three major
hypothesis when it comes to the

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answers behind Skinwalker Ranch,
right?

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I mean, in the in the big scheme
of things, there's hundreds of

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opinions about what's really
going on there.

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But when you really narrow it
down, there's three big ones.

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There's the skeptics point of
view where everything is either

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misidentification or a hoax or
people lying for publicity or to

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make a quick buck.
Personally, before I did

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research into Skinwalker Ranch
for the Paranormal Network back

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when we were part of that, I
thought there, there could have

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been some weight to that.
But I, I, I, I really pulled

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away from that once we did that
episode and even more now that

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I, I got a really good chance to
dive into that as thoroughly as

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I did recently.
The second one is what they

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refer to as the nuts and bolts
hypothesis.

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And, and this kind of goes down
to paths to this either delves

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into the world of the
extraterrestrial or the humans,

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right?
This is either that most of the

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phenomena is based on either one
of three type of

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extraterrestrial, one from
another planet, one from which

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is called the cosmic trickster,
which we've talked about before

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here on the show, and one from
an interdimensional.

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And then you have the.
Wait, that it that it is all

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three or that it's one of?
Three.

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It's one of the three.
Or, you know, honestly, the

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answer is more, more or less
most likely going to be some

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sort of mixture of of more than
one of these answers anyways.

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I highly doubt that anything in
the preacher natural or in the

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40 and that we talked about on
on the regular here is is a

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solid 1 answer in most cases.
Right, like if one entity can do

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a thing and then why couldn't
others?

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Yeah.
So like for example, right when

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I, when I get to the end of
this, I'll kind of explain a

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little bit more because
hypothesis #2 like I said, nuts

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and bolts there.
A lot of people will say that

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this is something physical in
the gist of of all of this.

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Doesn't matter whether you think
it's extraterrestrial,

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interdimensional, a cosmic
trickster at play, or a gin

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right is what we mostly will
know these these cosmetrist as

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or it's human beings doing human
being things for

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experimentation, military
exercise, reverse engineering,

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whatever it may be.
It's nuts and bolts physical and

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we can physically touch whatever
it is.

447
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:37,920
The third hypothesis is what
Frank Salisbury refers to as the

448
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,400
Stargate hypothesis, and this is
where you mix together the

449
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:49,960
concepts of of wormholes,
interdimensional portals,

450
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:58,160
portals to parallel worlds, so.
Stargates are awesome.

451
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,600
Yeah.
And and Stargate he uses as sort

452
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,080
of like an umbrella term for
those 3 concepts, right.

453
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:14,520
And personally, personally, I
think that, I mean, I don't

454
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:21,560
know, man, I, I, I think it was
at the, at the end of the

455
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,680
two-part two or three-part
series that we did with the

456
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,680
paranormal network where I was
kind of leaning towards the

457
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,200
cosmic trickster play where I
don't know, it just kind of I,

458
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,600
I, I like when things answered
more than one question.

459
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,000
And I felt like the cosmic
trickster kind of did that for,

460
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:46,200
for Skinwalker Ranch.
But in the, with all the, the

461
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,880
additional research that I did,
especially when you, when you

462
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:54,040
include the, the massive amount
of history that the, the general

463
00:32:54,040 --> 00:33:00,960
area has of the UN to basin, I
think there's much more going on

464
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,600
there.
And I think that it's something

465
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:07,960
older than than just this cosmic
trickster concept.

466
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,360
And, and I, I think that that
we're literally looking at a

467
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:21,600
place where where the, the
literal fabric between parallel

468
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:27,640
worlds may be thin.
And I think this is kind of, you

469
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,680
know, plays into the, the
concept of Ley lines a little

470
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,960
bit.
And I think if I know we never

471
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:41,040
really dove into the real, you
know, the the the TS and I's of

472
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440
of Ley lines before on on this
this podcast.

473
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,160
But show me your nuts, bro.
That's fucked up.

474
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,480
But there's a lot of concepts
we're.

475
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,440
Talking about my snacks in the
chat, I know I saw I got mixed

476
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,960
nuts here, all right?
It's a fucking bird food.

477
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,640
It's actually delicious though,
I'm not going to lie.

478
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,159
Showing everybody is nuts.
Fucking delicious.

479
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:14,639
Here's my ASMR bird.
But there's, there's a lot of

480
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,800
lot of theories behind the
concept of Ley lines.

481
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:23,040
And most people will look at
magnetic lines, you know,

482
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,639
natural magnetic lines of the
Earth and contribute that to

483
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:34,400
the, the build of Ley lines.
And they'll they'll make a cross

484
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:42,719
reference to specific locations
of of physical monuments such

485
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,360
as, you know, pyramids, Giza,
Skinwalker Ranch, yeah, if you

486
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,560
bring those if you bring up
these pictures, if.

487
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,520
Yeah, these are Ley lines.
Yeah, bring bring up a bring up

488
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,040
a good picture of these Ley
lines, man.

489
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,960
It, it basically wherever you
see a, a crossing point at these

490
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:07,280
Ley lines, there is a hotspot to
be found, right?

491
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:14,720
Mount Shasta, a Bermuda
Triangle, I mean the list goes

492
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:18,320
on.
Basically wherever wherever you

493
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:25,040
you can think of a hotspot in
the preternatural or the

494
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,880
paranormal, a Ley line gets
intersected.

495
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,400
There's actually a website, I
don't know off the top of my

496
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,720
head.
I can't really run it either

497
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:37,360
while we're streaming.
Probably because it's like

498
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,400
Google Earth.
They mapped Google Earth with

499
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,520
all the different Ley lines.
And the thing about Ley lines is

500
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,360
there's a shit load of them,
right?

501
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,000
It's like one of these things
where if you've ever gotten into

502
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:54,080
gematria or numerology or you
know, astrology, any of these

503
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,640
like esoteric type things,
there's a lot of different

504
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,600
translations or whatever, if you
want to call it right.

505
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:10,560
So on this like Google Earth 3D
live world that you can like

506
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,880
rotate around and zoom in on,
you can activate all these

507
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,840
different Ley lines from like
different ideas.

508
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,920
And of course there's a line
that crosses almost everything

509
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,640
depending on which one you're
using.

510
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,680
Right.
What, what, which cultures Ley

511
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,200
lines or witch version or
whatever, whatever.

512
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,000
Yeah.
But there is something to like

513
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,400
some of the major ones, you
know, they all do kind of

514
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,560
coalesce around certain
locations, right?

515
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:42,120
And you're right, they're like
Giza's one, you know, South

516
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,400
America.
There's there's few South

517
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,560
America.
There's some of them in North

518
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,400
America as well.
Basically, the Ley lines

519
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:54,360
originate at these major points
of structures and they're

520
00:36:54,360 --> 00:37:01,000
supposed to be basically gener
energy highways and where they

521
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,280
crisscross, they're supposed to
give birth to other areas of

522
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:13,760
paranormal or 40 in hotspots,
which is, believe it or not,

523
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,440
Skinwalker Ranch is one of those
crisscross spots.

524
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:23,880
Now, whether or not that's true,
not 100%.

525
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,560
It's, I personally have never
really dove into the concept of,

526
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:36,800
of Ley lines as a possibility
of, of, of, of being based in

527
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,640
reality.
I'm open to it and one day I'll,

528
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,640
I'll dive into it and look at
the evidence and, and make a

529
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,720
educated decision on it.
But for now, it's, it's a, it's

530
00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,200
a cool concept that I like to
play around with.

531
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,240
And let's just say that, you
know, we, we talked about this

532
00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:57,840
and, and from, from my point of
view with the stuff that I do

533
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,440
know about the stuff that I have
researched, the thing that makes

534
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,800
most sense to me when it comes
to these Ley lines and

535
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:09,680
Skinwalker Ranch or are you into
basin is what if these

536
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,240
intersecting Ley lines actually
highlight areas of which

537
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:22,000
parallel worlds have very thin
veils or membranes, if you will,

538
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,880
between the two?
Is this it right here?

539
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,800
Yeah.
Yeah, there you go.

540
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,640
So you can add different over
here on the left.

541
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,600
This is leylines.net over on the
left.

542
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,720
You got like explore map data.
I already selected one filter

543
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,360
just to make sure it was working
and shit.

544
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,960
So there's like all these
different folders, like global

545
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,440
lay lines, you know, sites,
anomalies, all this stuff.

546
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,040
Here we go.
Let's look at this one.

547
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Ancient maps, right?
This is cool.

548
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,720
So you can Add all these
different these.

549
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,880
I'm not sure how you get the
lines that connect, but yeah,

550
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,800
there's a way on here that you
can add one of the filter.

551
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,840
Oh, there it goes.
Look at that.

552
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,960
Nice.
Oh yeah, dude.

553
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,840
Right, so and yeah, I'd like
depending on which one of the

554
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:14,160
ones you're using, they'll yeah,
they make geometric patterns it.

555
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:17,760
And this is what's interesting
too, is because like a lot of

556
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,800
the ancient like philosophers
and mathematicians and all these

557
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:27,080
people that like got us to where
we are, they knew this, right?

558
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:33,120
This is why they built certain
sites on on these intersections.

559
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,360
This is why they put like these
geometric patterns, you know,

560
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,840
look like here's a star, right?
And if you rotate this just

561
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,800
right, that's like a pentagram,
right?

562
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,120
And that's used in every
culture.

563
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,360
And this is just geometry.
So you could break this down

564
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,960
into any shape and any fractals,
right?

565
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,640
What are the orange dots?
I don't know.

566
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,360
I don't.
I picked random filters to be

567
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,360
honest with you.
What is this?

568
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:04,720
That's Peru.
Oh, so that's that's the the

569
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,120
what you call it the the big
pictures that you see on the

570
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,920
ground.
God, what are they fucking

571
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:14,040
called the the NASCAR lions?
That's.

572
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,040
What that is?
That's got to be, yeah, Peru has

573
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,360
to be.
Yeah, so, well, there's a lot of

574
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,960
shit in Peru, man.
But you know, and who knows how

575
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,160
like accurate this particular
thing is with these lines, but

576
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,240
I'm sure it's pretty accurate.
I mean, dude, like this seems

577
00:40:30,240 --> 00:40:32,440
pretty legit.
There's a lot of shit on your

578
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,880
Platonic solids.
I don't even know what this

579
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,680
means, but I'm going to add this
to the map.

580
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,160
Fuck it.
I'll give it a give it a second,

581
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,920
see what happens.
Does anything happen?

582
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,200
I love these 3D masks man.
Look at that fat star over

583
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,400
Antarctica.
What?

584
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:57,400
Dude, it's too bad that we we're
not on a planet in space and

585
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,560
we're on a Flat Earth, man.
Too bad, man, too bad.

586
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Too bad it's cool shit though.
I dig it, man, I dig that kind

587
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,440
of stuff.
But I do think that the ancients

588
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,960
knew that kind of stuff.
And then you have to ask

589
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:19,560
yourself a question if in how
long ago was Egypt apparently

590
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:26,560
fucking, you know, founded 3600
BC, something like that.

591
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,920
I don't know man. 56000 years
ago.

592
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,720
They already knew where to put
it then.

593
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:39,440
Yeah.
Which means this goes way back,

594
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,120
man, way back.
I think that this kind of stuff

595
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,400
really leads to leans in on like
the we're much older of a

596
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:47,840
civilization than we think we
are.

597
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,280
I think that there was a lot of
stuff at play back then, a lot.

598
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,960
I mean, especially when you
start looking at the, the

599
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:00,000
influence that astral bodies had
on the placement of some of

600
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,640
these, these monuments like the
pyramids, Giza and, and Orion's

601
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,680
Belt, you know, I mean, it's
just incredible how some of this

602
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:15,240
stuff was built to perfectly
align with with astral bodies.

603
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:21,200
It's it's mind blowing.
And like timing too, you know,

604
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:28,040
if you stand right here every
whatever 270 years, the sun will

605
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,560
pass perfectly through and the
light will shine.

606
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,280
You know what I mean?
It's like that connection too.

607
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,760
It's not just where they put it,
but it it within the

608
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,000
construction.
They built time and clocks into

609
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,400
this as well.
Yeah.

610
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,160
And you really wonder, like, how
much time did they have

611
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,200
beforehand to figure this type
of shit out?

612
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,480
It's incredible.
And, and the what's the I've

613
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,760
been really, really thinking
about this lately and I've been

614
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,080
trying not to go down this
rabbit hole, but the 13 month

615
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,240
calendar, what do you know
anything about that?

616
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,680
Yeah, go ahead.
Sip your fucking coffee, guy.

617
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,080
Don't worry about the show.
We'll we'll wait for you.

618
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,400
Sorry man, I'm over here fucking
chowing down salty ass peanuts

619
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,400
bro I'm mouthed.
Motherfucker.

620
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,600
Yeah, man.
I mean, I don't know much about

621
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,240
that ship to be honest with you,
but I am aware of what you're

622
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,560
talking about.
I think there's definitely

623
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,840
something to that.
I feel like they were on the

624
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,840
right track with that shit man.
I mean, if you look at what

625
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,680
makes sense to me is that the
new year wouldn't be in January,

626
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,720
in the middle of winter right
now.

627
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:43,640
You could celebrate like winter
solstice, you know, as like the

628
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,720
beginning of the end of winter
because ancient peoples hated

629
00:43:47,720 --> 00:43:50,160
the winter time.
The winter time meant death.

630
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,200
That meant half the half of your
people froze to death, the other

631
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,360
half starved to death, right,
because there's no food to grow.

632
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,120
And that was just a terrible
time in the year.

633
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,520
And then the spring would come
and it symbolized birth and you

634
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,400
know, like rebirth and like all
this type of, you know,

635
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,600
fertility and all this shit.
And that was just like the cycle

636
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,000
of, of our ancestors lives
forever, right?

637
00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:18,400
Whether it was like the farming
or with even US procreating,

638
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,320
like, you know, you can even
people have even done the the

639
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,520
science and this like when it
started getting cold and people

640
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,800
started locking themselves in
the in the Hut shelters and

641
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,080
stuff, right?
That's when they started fucking

642
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,520
breeding.
And then when it started getting

643
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,640
warm and shit, that's when the
kids were starting to pop out

644
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,560
and it was like the whole time
of spring was like this thing.

645
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,760
So I think that when you track
like, I forget which culture

646
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,680
exactly, but like the new year
starts on like the spring

647
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,680
solstice, like that's their new
year, right?

648
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,240
And then if you talk about the
13 calendars and you break it

649
00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:53,160
into I think 28 days or 26,
whatever number it is per day,

650
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,480
and it's like the moon calendar
or something like that.

651
00:44:55,720 --> 00:44:58,040
I bet you somebody in the chat
knows more about this shit than

652
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:59,920
I do.
But there's definitely something

653
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,440
to that.
And I think that, you know,

654
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,440
they, the people who have been
siphoning our soul energy for

655
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,360
hundreds, if not thousands of
years, have been manipulating

656
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,480
things all the way down to the
level of like, time and how we

657
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:18,000
perceive time and what time it
is and fucking, you know, what

658
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,600
season it is and what we should
be celebrating as far as like

659
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,400
the sun cycles and the moon
cycles and that kind of thing.

660
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,320
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, we got a pretty

661
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,600
lengthy comment here from Nate
and MLMPLS.

662
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,400
Ley lions are kind of a joke.
I believe there are certain

663
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,960
locations with more energies of
various types that anyone could

664
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,400
take a map or globe and draw
lines on it claiming that

665
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,680
they're that's where those
energy centers are.

666
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,400
Nobody is blocking the globe and
measuring these energies.

667
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,440
Even if you found a location
with higher than average

668
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,680
energies, you can't say there's
a line connecting to the other

669
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,520
locations around the world.
It could be a pocket of energy

670
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,840
due to geological features or
underwater.

671
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,320
So I, I actually aligned pretty
close with with with that

672
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,800
statement.
Like I said, I've never really

673
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,880
done a deep dive into the the
whole concept of landlines.

674
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,120
One of these days I will it
it's.

675
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,600
That as well too man.
Honestly, for the most part I'm

676
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,920
just saying that there's
something to it, right?

677
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,840
Like there's got to be at least
a little nugget of something

678
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:29,040
there that a lot of these super
ancient sites do happen to align

679
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,280
in certain geometric, you know,
patterns around the globe,

680
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,360
right?
Like purse.

681
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,800
I'm not.
And it could be as simple as as

682
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,240
like the the architects of the
Great Society that live that we

683
00:46:40,240 --> 00:46:42,320
forgot about, right?
Call it Landis or whatever

684
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,400
empire it was.
Maybe they just did that as a

685
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,080
way of like what we do now,
right.

686
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,960
Like when we put a fucking what
do you call the big shaft thing?

687
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,680
The fucking obelisk.
Yeah, the obelisks are

688
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,120
everywhere.
You know, it's like it could

689
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,280
have been a thing like that.
Like, we'll put our fucking

690
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,640
monuments like on these
geometric locations around the

691
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:05,200
Earth just to symbolize that we
were able to build around the

692
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,480
Earth, you know, everywhere.
See the, the, the problem with

693
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:13,600
Ley lines for me, right?
And you know, I, I, I'm not a

694
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,160
huge fan of taking a shit on
subjects, right?

695
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,880
So I try to try to tiptoe around
these kind of things.

696
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:22,440
But the problem with Ley lines
for me is, is that the people

697
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,840
who heavily believe in them,
they assigned the power to the,

698
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:32,960
the, the monuments first.
And then they draw the lines and

699
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,320
they assign the power to the
lines.

700
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,720
And that's the problem, right?
I, I feel like if you found the

701
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:43,160
lines 1st and then the lines
brought you to the monuments,

702
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:49,680
that's when you would have more
of a, some sort of oomph, some

703
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:56,400
sort of real something behind
the claims behind landlines,

704
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,440
right?
But if you assign the power to

705
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,280
the the monument 1st and then
you draw a line and then you

706
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,000
just assign energy to the line.
Because you say that.

707
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,520
Couldn't you say the same thing
about like the celestial

708
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:15,040
alignments?
Yes, but when I, when I talk

709
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,840
about like Giza, right, I'm not,
I'm not claiming that there's

710
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,280
energy assigned to Giza because
it aligns Celestial Lee, right?

711
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,800
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm just
saying that I think it's

712
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,040
impressive that it aligns
perfectly with Orion's belt.

713
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,080
I think that's that's
incredible, you know, and.

714
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,680
And what I'm saying is, I'm
equally impressed that the

715
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,920
ancient civilization we forgot
about built these these

716
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:44,000
monuments in a geometric pattern
around the planet.

717
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,840
Yeah, I mean, there's, there's
definitely some, some some cool

718
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,240
shit around a plant.
Like we had just talked about

719
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,840
this, I think whether the last
week or the week before, or

720
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,320
maybe even the week before that,
where we talked about how

721
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,680
there's a lot of really similar
architecture all around the

722
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,920
world in Asia, Africa, South
America, when you talk about the

723
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,480
Aztecs and Egyptians, right?
And how there could potentially

724
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,680
be these underground
civilizations that had found

725
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,760
their way to the surface that
brought their architecture up

726
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,400
from, from these underground
pockets of civilization and, and

727
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,880
brought their architecture in
the form of these, these pyramid

728
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,080
like structures that we now see
today that we see all across the

729
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,120
world, right?
I mean, we, we see this stuff

730
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:31,600
everywhere and we see
architecture across vast

731
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:38,800
distances around the same time
or same time frame, but

732
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,720
absolutely nowhere near each
other that are separated by

733
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:50,200
these humongous pockets of ocean
where, you know, finding your

734
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,720
way to these specific points on
the planet and back.

735
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,880
You would, I mean, maybe, maybe
maybe I'm just ignorant of, you

736
00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:03,120
know, ancient technologies that
were available back then.

737
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,080
But, you know, looking back at
what they, what I believe they

738
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:14,400
had and what I, you know,
learned about in, you know, my

739
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,000
adventures, I don't think that
they had the tools available to

740
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:24,520
be able to do what, what,
what's, what's physically shown

741
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,000
without, you know, the, the
missing puzzle piece of, of, of

742
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,280
an underground civilization.
I, I mean, I listen, I'm not

743
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,080
going to argue against that.
I would just offer another

744
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,360
perspective that they wouldn't
be able to do that without the

745
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,560
help of time, right?
So like, you know, I think

746
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,280
humans are smart.
I think we're smart enough and

747
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,280
capable enough to do that.
I think you just give us enough

748
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,360
time and enough, you know,
freedom to do this thing or

749
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,320
whatever you call it.
We we could do that kind of

750
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,160
thing.
And that's all I think.

751
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,760
I think it's just and it maybe
it's cyclical.

752
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,320
You know, every so often,
whatever happens happens and you

753
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,360
know, she gets wiped, we forget
about the last cycle.

754
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:13,040
But and that could just be from
like fucking super volcanoes,

755
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,800
you know, meteors or could be
like nefariously done or could

756
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,520
be like part of the simulation
reset.

757
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,720
So who knows how deep that goes.
But you know, I do think that

758
00:51:23,720 --> 00:51:28,640
there is something to time.
I don't think you necessarily

759
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:33,400
need like an advanced species
offering us help, giving us

760
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,200
technologies or doing something
that, you know, we couldn't do.

761
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,360
I think you we could do it if we
stretch our history back instead

762
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:45,640
of going back 10,000 years since
we've started like writing shit

763
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:49,360
down and making pottery and like
doing math and stuff like that.

764
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,800
I think that's, you know,
they're saying 12, maybe 12 or

765
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,680
15,000 years if you count like
Gobekli Tepe, that's like

766
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,880
accepted science, 1212 thousand
years or not even.

767
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:03,280
Yeah, maybe no, 56000.
Whatever it is, I'm saying you

768
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:08,560
give it like a whole other
30,000 years before that.

769
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:13,400
That's probably where the
civilization existed.

770
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,320
Yeah.
And fucking, you know, all the

771
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:23,440
crazy shit was built.
So, so side tangent, side

772
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:26,120
tangent of this side tangent,
that's a side tangent of another

773
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,440
side tangent that we took today,
right?

774
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,920
Who is mistress of Muggles?
That's a new name.

775
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,160
I haven't seen that name.
Hello.

776
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,480
Mystrix of Muggles is a friend
of mine, actually.

777
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,320
What it do?
What it do?

778
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:44,720
She's awesome.
Did you ever get a chance to

779
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:48,440
listen to my Soul episode on the
Aquatic Ape theory?

780
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,520
Maybe.
What was?

781
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,280
This was a recent one.
No, it was.

782
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,880
Recent.
It would have been about this

783
00:52:53,880 --> 00:53:01,040
time last year, probably then.
So I recently came across more

784
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,840
reading material on this
subject.

785
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:08,240
I originally thought that Elaine
Morgan, who was the person who

786
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,960
brought the concept of the
aquatic a hypothesis, or as a

787
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,920
lot of people would, would,
would probably be more

788
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,600
comfortable with knowing it as
the aquatic aid theory.

789
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,360
I thought that she was the only
person that really ever wrote a

790
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,840
book about this, but apparently
I was wrong.

791
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,520
This, this person, this guy by
the name of Peter Rice Evans

792
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,560
wrote a book called The
Waterside Ape.

793
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:41,760
And this book right here I, I
recently started reading it is

794
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,960
he took Elaine Morgan's concept
of the aquatic ape hypothesis

795
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,920
and really dove into human
anatomy.

796
00:53:53,920 --> 00:54:06,880
And he makes some really, really
compelling evidential points

797
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,960
about how we could have spent
some, some solid time in water

798
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,840
man.
And and not just that, but he

799
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,000
also bridges a little bit into
how we could have spent some

800
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:27,600
time underground by making some
of the same points as if that

801
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:33,200
Elaine Morgan made when she
wrote the the book the aquatic

802
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:40,480
ape hypothesis and how he draws
parallels between animals or

803
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:47,680
creatures that live a sub
aquatic lifestyle, such as like

804
00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:50,040
elephants, hippos, rhinos,
right.

805
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,320
And they, they don't have hair,
right?

806
00:54:53,320 --> 00:55:00,280
They have a fleshy body, but
they also require moisture as if

807
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:06,600
as in humans do.
And they're parallels to other

808
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:11,000
creatures similar to that, such
as the naked mole rat that lives

809
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:15,840
underground basically their
entire lives, also does not have

810
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:22,160
hair and also requires moisture.
Where as hair or fur covered

811
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:27,840
animals don't require as much
moisture to, to say, you know,

812
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:34,080
keep their, their dermis
properly hydrated to a point to

813
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,520
where if they don't, they could
potentially die.

814
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,240
It's a, it's very, very
interesting.

815
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,040
And you know, he he does a
really, really, really good job

816
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:52,000
at at drawing a picture of how
we very well could have come

817
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:58,800
from either underground and some
wet caves or from the shores of

818
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,120
from some some pretty
interesting places.

819
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,560
Man, it's I can't wait to dive
into it.

820
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,040
Again, it could be too man.
I mean, you know, if you think

821
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:11,560
about the the length of time
that I'm talking that I think

822
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:15,040
about anyways, or I'm talking
about, you know, especially when

823
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,440
you get into like some of the
shit that like Graham Hancock

824
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,480
says.
And I don't know if he's right

825
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,040
or not.
But, you know, it's interesting

826
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:26,400
to think about where, you know,
if the Sphinx wasn't actually a

827
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,720
lion originally and it was
facing the constellation of Leo

828
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,200
and the rising sun.
Yeah.

829
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:37,720
You know, and then like you can
use simulation, computer

830
00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:40,080
simulations to run the clock
back like when the last time

831
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,560
that was.
And it was like I said, 30,000

832
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,160
years ago, whatever it was right
before the younger driest events

833
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,280
that wiped everything the fuck
out, right?

834
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,640
So and then if you run the clock
back again before that, it was

835
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,480
whatever was another 30,000
years, right?

836
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,160
And you can do this with a lot
of these sites.

837
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,160
And again, you know, it's kind
of like the Ley line thing.

838
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,720
Like, sure, you know, you can
run the clock back on anything

839
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:06,320
and see what was there and like
make some assumptions or

840
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,000
whatever.
But I think you probably could

841
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,240
at least go back one cycle of
30,000 years where humans were

842
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:17,000
probably doing some crazy shit.
And before the whatever happened

843
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,040
during the Younger Dryas,
whether it was a comet,

844
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,600
fragmented comet that wiped
everything out, you know, on two

845
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,200
different occasions over the
course of a couple thousand

846
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,560
years.
Or maybe it was like some

847
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,000
fucking super volcano or
whatever the case.

848
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,080
What?
Maybe the Earth just shifted, it

849
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,960
tilted in the sun, melted all
the ice and it just wiped

850
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,800
everything out.
I don't know, but I think there

851
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,080
was definitely some building
going on and I think they knew

852
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,360
about some weird spooky shit in
places.

853
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,440
I wish I didn't build shit
there.

854
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:52,720
I wouldn't be surprised if they
if they were aware of the, the

855
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:58,400
thin membrane between parallel
worlds, if, if they had some,

856
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:02,040
some way.
And, and this is, this is kind

857
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:09,640
of where you know that you could
add some, some sort of

858
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,280
reliability to the, to the
concept of Ley lines.

859
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:20,440
If these monuments were built at
these areas where this membrane

860
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,720
or this veil was thinnest
between parallel worlds, maybe

861
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,240
they built these monuments such
as these pyramids or other, you

862
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:37,280
know, structures Machu Picchu
and and others where this this

863
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,920
veil was so thin.
Where you get the strange

864
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,920
phenomenon that you can just
walk a ranch like these orange

865
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:51,520
clouds that when when look
through in in specific angles

866
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:57,720
you can see blue skies through
or you can see an upright

867
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:03,680
walking canine creature walk
through and walk into our our

868
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:11,040
existence out of nowhere through
this orange cloudy tunnel.

869
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,200
You know, that could be
something as simple as like the

870
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,440
magnetic field of the earth or
something like that.

871
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,800
Like some or some field that we
just don't know is like

872
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,360
interacting with the brain
somehow, you know, or it could

873
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,120
be something that simple where
the phenomena is just like what

874
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,040
the fuck is happening?
Like literally just a phenomena

875
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:34,920
like.
Yeah, and, and, and you know, I,

876
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,600
I know I'm, I'm trying really
hard to keep pulling this back

877
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,120
to Skinwalker Ranch.
But like I said, I just, I just

878
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,680
got done literally just
yesterday, just got done with

879
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,240
my, my really big deep dive in
the Skinwalker Ranch there.

880
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,480
You know, I don't know too much
about the Mormon faith.

881
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,280
And I'm sure if, if Jake was
here, he'd probably be able to

882
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:57,840
elaborate.
He probably knows something more

883
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,960
than what I do.
But from what I understand.

884
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,840
They are much more
extraterrestrial friendly than,

885
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:11,560
you know, let's say like, like,
you know, modern or standard

886
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:15,880
Christianity is right.
Excuse my ignorance if if that

887
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,880
doesn't make sense.
I'm not, you know, well versed

888
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:23,280
in that kind of stuff.
But I do know because Frank

889
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:28,200
Salisbury, the author of this
Utah UFO display, is a, is a

890
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,880
Mormon man.
And he does talk about the,

891
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,560
their openness with the concepts
of extraterrestrials and planets

892
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:42,640
outside of Earth and, and
whatnot, and how their founders

893
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:53,480
took to Utah because of their,
because of the, the, the, the I,

894
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:57,840
I, you know, I, I hesitate to
use words that I'm forcing into

895
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,800
position here, but, you know,
for the lack of a better term, I

896
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,560
would say for the thinness of
the veil that, you know, that I

897
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,760
used to describe such places as,
as, you know, like the Aztecs,

898
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,200
pyramids and stuff, right?
The same concept is basically

899
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,960
how he was, he was sort of
explaining that that they that

900
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,560
they chose this northern Utah
area, the UN to basin and, and

901
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,880
its surrounding areas to, to
settle in.

902
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,360
Because when you think Utah, you
do you think Mormons, right.

903
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:32,280
That's a.
That's a very common thing to to

904
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:36,440
make a connection with.
When I think Utah, I think first

905
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,600
state that's going to have a
Bitcoin reserve.

906
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,320
Maybe.
Probably my words, I'm sure, I'm

907
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:48,920
sure you're probably not wrong.
But you know, maybe there's

908
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,240
something there too.
Maybe there, you know, maybe

909
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,880
they, maybe they did choose that
state, that general area of the

910
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:03,320
country because of a thinning
of, of some sort of world

911
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,280
connectivity.
You know that that's the whole

912
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,000
Stargate hypothesis that
Salisbury put out.

913
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:13,480
He also included word holes,
which is not something that

914
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,760
connects parallel worlds or or
multiple dimensions, but

915
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:23,160
connects vast distances in space
through the universe you know.

916
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,160
You know what's interesting to
me, man, in this, you know, I'm

917
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:30,720
going to go on a little bit of a
derail here, I guess, but it's

918
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,200
like, you know, from my
perspective, you had this

919
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,640
civilization that was building
these monuments, you know, for

920
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:41,720
whatever reason, but they would
build their cities around these

921
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,320
monuments, right?
And like they had, it seemed

922
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:49,040
anyways that they had like a
different view on like our

923
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,400
relationship with the universe
and nature, right?

924
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,320
Like they were doing some kind
of worshipping the stars.

925
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,880
The cities were built around
these giant monuments that were

926
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,560
like somehow interacting with,
you know, the world and the

927
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,080
universe, you know what I mean?
Like by being aligned

928
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,920
celestially and, and that kind
of thing, right?

929
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,200
So they were interacting with
the universe, with their

930
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,960
architecture and their, and
their civilization, right?

931
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,560
Whereas now after the cataclysm,
let's call it, right, some, Jake

932
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,360
would call it after the flood,
right?

933
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,560
I would say after the younger
dries, right?

934
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:31,200
It seems like the system that
has taken control now, it has us

935
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,360
away from those things, all of
those places, all of those

936
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,560
monuments and those types of
things.

937
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:40,000
You know, we don't.
With the few exceptions, you

938
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,520
know, those are in the middle,
like Utah.

939
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,800
What the fuck is in Utah?
Nothing.

940
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,120
Right.
And it seems I, I would argue

941
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,240
that that's probably by design,
right?

942
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,200
Like, you know, they didn't we
didn't rebuild massive cities

943
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:56,760
around Machu Picchu, you know,
in the same kind of way that the

944
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,080
ancient peoples did.
And we're not using the same

945
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:02,080
like architecture in like
astrological shit.

946
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,200
Now, some people would argue
like, well, that's progress.

947
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,040
We don't have to do that, dummy.
We have computers and technology

948
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,560
and like, we can fucking use a
clock instead of stare at the

949
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,560
sun.
And it's like, sure.

950
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,800
But you know, does this make
sense?

951
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,200
Like, it seems to me like
there's a different order.

952
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:19,320
I don't.
Know if I don't know if this is

953
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,000
the path that you're trying to
go down, but you know, my

954
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,720
question is what if what if the
cities that we're building like

955
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:28,520
New York, Chicago, LA, Dallas,
right.

956
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,000
These are these are actually,
they mean nothing.

957
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:33,280
These areas mean absolutely
nothing.

958
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:38,720
And it's the, and it's the rural
areas, the the Appalachians, the

959
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,720
the Uinta Basin, the the
northern portions of Utah, the.

960
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:45,600
Well, that's what I'm saying,
right?

961
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,080
That that is what I'm saying
right there's.

962
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,960
The the National Park System.
Yes, listen, there's a

963
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,120
conspiracy theory, if you want
to call it that, that's out

964
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,080
there rolling around somewhere.
I don't know exactly what it's

965
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,760
called, but it's like, you know,
microchip Earth or something.

966
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,000
And the idea is that like all of
the cities, if you look at them,

967
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,480
if you zoom out, you look at all
the skyscrapers and you look at

968
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:07,520
the the grid patterns of the
roads and the streets, right?

969
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:09,720
Like these are all set up kind
of the same way that like

970
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,520
microchips and like transistors
and like all this stuff is set

971
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,760
up as well.
And it's like they've set

972
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:18,920
everything up in a way to like
harvest your energy, right?

973
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,880
I'm going to go esoteric on you
guys for a minute, right?

974
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,640
Like they put us in these they,
they put us, we do it ourselves.

975
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:29,240
But like the cubes, these
squares, like these solid

976
01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:32,960
geometric patterns, right?
Like, you know, it goes deep on

977
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:37,880
this deep level of, of this like
psyop, like soul sucking energy

978
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,400
type of shit.
So, you know, when I think of

979
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,280
fucking, it's like the new world
order, right?

980
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,520
The last, the previous order,
the one that built all the cool

981
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,280
shit, they were worshipping
fucking nature in a different

982
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,520
type of way.
They were interacting with the

983
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,640
universe.
We're in a current order now

984
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,320
where it's like separate from
that one.

985
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,200
They've, you know, blocked that
off from society almost.

986
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:02,360
We're in this new structure.
It's like microchip fucking soul

987
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:07,240
siphoning, you know, grids, you
know, and then like the new

988
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,760
world order that's coming and
the next cycle, which will

989
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,160
probably take like 100 years or
two for that to like fully be

990
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,520
implemented, will be like
whatever the next fucking thing

991
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,960
is.
Transhumanism, fucking weird

992
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:24,440
amorphous BLOB culture.
I don't know, sorry, I don't

993
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:25,080
know.
I just had to.

994
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,760
I had to go deeper a second
there.

995
01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:28,280
No, dude, you're good.
You're good.

996
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,600
I do.
Got to get going, though.

997
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:32,720
I got to get up.
We got a snowstorm coming in

998
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,600
tonight.
Well, maybe the weatherman, the

999
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,280
other man doesn't make up his
mind very well.

1000
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,240
But yeah, man.
And that's about all I can

1001
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,680
really do.
I'm sorry to get a massive

1002
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:49,200
headache again, but all right,
everybody in the chat.

1003
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,120
Thanks for stopping by.
Appreciate you guys.

1004
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:57,640
Guys are always awesome to to
read through what you know your,

1005
01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,000
your inputs.
Please keep it coming next time.

1006
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,200
Really do appreciate it.
I look forward to to making more

1007
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:07,000
announcements here in the near
future.

1008
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,200
Look forward to it, please, or I
look forward to it.

1009
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:17,680
You guys hang tight and can't
wait to, to just to spill the

1010
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,520
beans and, and bring you guys in
on some of the, the cool plans

1011
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,800
I've got going on.
Jeff, it's always a pleasure,

1012
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,720
man.
Thanks for the thanks for the

1013
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,760
good conversation, that dude.
Hell yeah brother, up your head,

1014
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:32,360
it goes away.
Get better buddy.

1015
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,160
We'll see, man, We'll see.
All right, one toler.

1016
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:40,760
Until next time, everybody.
This has been another episode of

1017
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,720
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podcast.

1018
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,400
We'll see you right here in the
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1019
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:47,840
Rabbit Hole.
Bye, buddy.

1020
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,360
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