241. 9/11: Proof You're Being Lied To w/ Richard Gage

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Hey travelers, in this episode,
we explore a topic that has

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sparked debate and curiosity for
over 2 decades, the events of

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September 11th.
Our guest is a leading voice in

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the movement seeking a new
investigation into the collapse

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of the World Trade Center
buildings.

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With a background in
architecture and engineering,

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they bring a wealth of knowledge
and compelling evidence that

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challenges the official
narrative.

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Will discuss the theory of
controlled demolition, examine

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the structural anomalies, and
question the information

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provided by the mainstream media
and government agencies.

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Get ready for a conversation
that will leave you questioning

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what you thought you knew like
we have never had before.

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On this podcast, please welcome
San Francisco Bay Area architect

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Richard Gage, AIA member of the
American Institute of Architects

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and founder and former CEO of
Architects and Engineers for 911

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Truth.
He now leads the charge for a

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new World Trade Center
investigation along with his

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courageous wife GAIL, at
richardgage911.org.

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Mr. Gage became interested in
researching the destruction of

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the World Trade Center high
rises after hearing the

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startling conclusions of a
reluctant 9/11 researcher by the

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name of David Ray Griffin on the
radio in 2006, which launched

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his own unyielding quest for the
truth about 911.

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The organization he founded, AE
911 Truth now numbers more than

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3600 architects and engineers
demanding a new investigation

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into the explosive destruction
of all three World Trade Center

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high rise buildings on 9/11.
As an architect he has worked on

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most types of building
construction including numerous

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fireproof steel framed
buildings.

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Most recently he worked on the
construction documents for a

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$400 million mixed-use urban
project with 1.2 million square

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feet of retail parking structure
and a mid rise office space, all

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together about 1200 tons of
steel framing.

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Please welcome Richard Gage, AIA
architect.

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Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit
Hole.

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Richard, welcome to the infinite
rabbit hole.

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How are you doing today?
Oh, fantastic.

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Thanks so much.
That's that's Jeremy, right?

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Yes, Sir, yes.
Sir, yeah, I'm doing fantastic.

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I'm, I'm, we're making some
progress in the 9/11 truth

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movement and I'm, I'm excited to
share that with your audience

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today.
I'm excited for you to share

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that with our audience.
This is a topic.

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I mean, we've, we've discussed
it, right?

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We've discussed it.
I'm give you a little bit of

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background on myself.
I am A8 year Navy vet who worked

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in aviation the entire time.
So I'm very familiar with JP 5.

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Also, I, I can tell you a bit of
the difference between JP5 and

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Jet A and Jet A1, which is the
fuels that we're going to be

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talking about today.
So I should be able to, to, to,

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to stay up with you a little
bit.

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And then Jeff here, he's the,
he's the conspiracy guy.

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So he's actually going to
probably drool all over this

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presentation and you'll love it.
Yep, I'm the resident resident

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crazy guy, so I'm here for it.
Yeah, we need 1 you.

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Got to have one in every group
that's for sure.

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Absolutely.
So Richard, can I just start off

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with a a basic question for you,
Anybody who's watching right

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now, I know we're we're going to
get a lot of people on Spotify

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who aren't watching the video
you're going to listen to the

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audio.
But Richard here has a

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presentation that he's going to
present for us today.

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I highly recommend that if you
get a chance to watch this on

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either Spotify video, YouTube,
or any of our auto, any of our

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other video platforms.
That way you can see Richard's

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entire presentation.
Richard, how did you find

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yourself interested in the
subject of 911 and the kind of,

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let's say, mixed information or
misinformation that we are

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getting?
Well, I bought the official

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narrative hook, line and sinker
for five years, so I mean, I

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never heard any alternative
explanation until 2006.

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I heard Bonnie Faulkner's Guns
and Butter program on KPFA and

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she was interviewing David Ray
Griffin, who's now written 14

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books on the subject of 911, and
I was just floored.

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Coming back from a construction
observation meeting and in

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Lafayette, CA, I was hearing
that the ends of the beams were

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dripping with molten iron.
I was hearing that there was a

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third tower that came down on
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I'm going what are you talking
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I know I'm an architect.
If there was a third tower that

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came down the these beams were
expelled laterally at 80 miles

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an hour out of the twin towers
and and and the ends of the

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beams dripping with molten
metal.

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This is crazy.
I had to find out if it were

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true.
So I went the next day and he,

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he, David Ray Griffin was
speaking at the Grand Lake

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Theatre in Oakland.
And I had to, I had to find out

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what this is all about.
Man, The place was packed.

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There was like 600 people in
this theatre.

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And I'm going, whoa, this is,
this is enormous.

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That's is there really something
to this or are all these people

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conspiracy theorists?
So they wouldn't even let me in.

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I had to, I had to go home and
watch on the Internet because it

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was packed.
So I learned how to, you know,

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watch a live stream and I, I'm,
I, I, I, I was, I was hooked.

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I had to tell you, but I, I was
very uncomfortable.

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I felt like my world was turning
around.

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As I researched this over the
next several weeks, as I met

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the, the group, the local group,
the Northern California 9/11

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Truth Alliance, and they helped
me to understand what was going

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on.
They met every other week and

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put the PowerPoint together,
took it to the firm that I

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worked with, 15 architects and
engineers, and they were, you

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know, like most of them thought
I was nuts until I bought them

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pizza and made them come in and
watch because they couldn't turn

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down a free pizza.
So they all, all, all fourteen

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others, including in addition to
myself, they were all raise

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their hands at the end of this
presentation.

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Oh my God, you're right.
These are controlled

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demolitions.
We got to have a new

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investigation.
So those are my first, including

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myself. 15 architects and
engineers signed on to the

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petition demanding a new
investigation.

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Now there's 3600 architects and
engineers staking their

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reputations publicly on the
petition at AE 911 truth.org.

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And so that's an extraordinary
number of people that don't, do

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not have to have no, no stake in
this in this game other than the

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fact that we're architects and
these are buildings.

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So it's very impressive.
Jeff, you got anything, bud?

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No, I mean, makes sense to me,
right?

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Like as the conspiracy guy here,
you know, it's kind of how a lot

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of this goes, whatever you're
talking about, whether it's 911

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or take your pick of the thing,
you know, usually just take some

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time to sit down and really like
look at or listen to some of the

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evidence or explanations on some
of these things.

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And if, if people are willing to
do that, not to say that you

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just automatically believe
whatever the conspiracy is, but

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you know, you're, you're more
inclined to be like, oh, wait a

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minute, there's something here
for sure.

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So I think that's something to
take away from that.

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You know, you, you sat down and
took the time and, you know,

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something clicked and you're
like, OK, there's something

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here.
So people should do that.

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Definitely.
Yeah, it's, it's great when you

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have somebody with some
expertise in this, in, in the

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fields that we're talking about.
I, I, I feel like too often

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people are just very accepting
of the information that comes to

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them, whether it be by the
mainstream media, by, you know,

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other government outlets.
It, it doesn't necessarily Click

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to a lot of people some of the
most common sense details that

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are incorrect.
This has been on my radar for a

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very long time and it's probably
before I met Jeff.

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I wasn't much of A conspiracy
guy, but even the 9/11 story,

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the the one that is represented
or presented to the public, just

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never really clicked it it.
It didn't make a lot of sense to

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me, especially after my time in
the in the Navy.

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Just too many pieces didn't fit.
It didn't make sense kind of

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taking the longer out there, but
I'm happy to have you here very

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much.
Richard, this is going to be

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very insightful and I know we'll
have a great conversation here.

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Jeff, do you have anything
before we start?

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No, I'm excited to see the
presentation.

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You know, I'm relatively
familiar with a lot of the, you

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know, engineers and architects
for 9/11 truth stuff.

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You know, I've seen all the
documentaries like everybody

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else out here and that kind of
thing.

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So, you know, I'm, I'm stoked
to, to see what you got and get

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into it.
Cool.

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Well, let's go for it then.
I, I, I just want to warn your

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audience, those who are new to
this material, it, it, it has an

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effect on you.
I don't know about Jeremy and

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Jeff, probably a long time ago,
like me at some point, you know,

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this was shocking for me the
first couple of weeks turned my

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world upside down.
I, I mean, I did not want to

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believe this.
I was a flag waving Reagan

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Republican who wanted to go into
Afghanistan and Iraq and get

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those bastards who did this to
us, right?

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This is, this is not something
that, that, that, that, that

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just fell into place for me.
I got real angry too.

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I, I, I, I was, I'd been lied to
at a colossal scale and along

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with the rest of the world and,
and just, it felt like, like

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this weight on my shoulders.
I had to do something about

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this.
I mean, I'm an architect.

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These are buildings.
The buck stops here.

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So it's not even the evidence
that we're showing today of

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explosive controlled demolition,
which is clear, convincing,

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overwhelming, abundant and
irrefutable.

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It's the implications of this
evidence.

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What does this mean for us?
But you know, our entire

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government, our, our media who
led the drum up to the March for

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war, we're involved in a $6.5
trillion global War on Terror

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following 911.
The the ramifications are

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extensive and we'll talk more
about those.

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But you can't trust what is told
to us on the TV anymore.

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I, I did at one time.
And you can't trust our

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government officials.
And as you have indicated, Jeff,

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the, the, the lies have
continued before and since 9:11.

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I'm more aware of the, the since
was with COVID and with the

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Charlie Kirk situation, the the
Gaza scam that we've been fed,

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which we're not going to talk
about today.

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But we have lectures on those
parallels between 9:11 and and

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COVID 9/11 in Gaza, which we can
go into another time.

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But regarding 911, it's big
enough for one night.

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And I mean, this was this is the
largest building in most of our

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States and yet most architects
and engineers know nothing about

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it.
I mean, the third worst

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structural failure in modern
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And I'm one of 90,000 members of
the American Institute of

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Architects.
We didn't get one bulletin on

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this.
Again, the third worst

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structural failure in modern
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I wasn't hit by a plane that
this this building here and it

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nevertheless went down at 5:20
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It was about a football field in
length north of the north tower.

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And here it is standing just
fine even as the towers are

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coming down.
Some of the beams hit Building

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7.
Actually, there was some damage,

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and that damage is documented by
NIST.

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And but they say it's not a
significant factor in the

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building's collapse.
And so NIST is the National

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Institute of Standards and
Technology, who was tasked by

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Congress to explain these
collapses to the American

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people.
Well, let's look at that

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collapse.
Here is Building 7 at 5:20 in

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the afternoon.
And then the independence on the

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left comes down first in an
isolated event, and then 6

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seconds later, the entire
building does this.

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Whoa.
Well, wait a second.

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We've seen this before, right?
Like the old hotels in Las

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Vegas, we've got a frame of
reference for this, unlike the

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Twin Towers, which was very
different, which we'll get into.

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So we have, we have to ask
ourselves, what was the official

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narrative?
Well, here it is from John Gross

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of the NIST report.
What we found was an

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uncontrolled building fires
caused an extraordinary event.

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The collapse of World Trade
Center 7 was primarily due to

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fire.
Fires.

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Well, we have to look at those
fires.

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And these are the worst fires
that we have any photographic or

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video evidence of in the
building.

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And they are few, they're small,
and they're scattered throughout

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the building.
And furthermore, they're burned

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out on the floors of interest to
NIST about an hour before the

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building came down.
And that's important because

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they have a whole theory of how
this building came down and it

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relies on fires burning at the
time of the collapse.

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It's called thermal expansion of
these long span beams on floor

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12 and floor which pushed this
girder off of its seat on this

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column 79.
And then they say floor 13 fell

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on 12/12 and 11 and so on for 9
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And then this instability
traveled eastward to the right

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all the way across this football
field length building.

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Well that's an extraordinary set
of claims for which they had to

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omit key structural elements
from their computer modelling in

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order to get it to work, which
we go into and when we have more

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time, there's, this is a 4 hour
presentation we're talking about

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today that we're giving in an
hour.

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So what have we ever lost?
A high rise building which are

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all fire protected type 1 fire
resistant buildings, steel

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framed, most all of them.
No, not one.

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None of these steel frame fire
protected structures that have

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ever come down due to fire, not
before or after 911.

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And these particularly in these
fully engulfed structures with

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fire, they still don't bring
them down well.

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What can bring a high rise down?
Well, we can look at controlled

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demolition as a hypothesis when
the NIST never considered

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seriously on the left, series of
known controlled demolitions on

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the right, building 7.
Do you see any resemblance?

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Is there enough similarity?
It's spot on.

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To warrant an investigation into
the possible use of explosives,

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especially since fire, the
official cause of this

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building's collapse, has never
in history brought down a steel

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frame fire protected structure
ever.

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Well.
So we're going to look at a few

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features of controlled
demolition, see if it has any of

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them beginning with feature
number one.

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Is there a sudden onset of
destruction?

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Well, here's Dan Rather
narrating his view that evening

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of this building's collapse for
us.

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What?
You're seeing are high shots.

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Now here we're going to show you
a videotape of the collapse

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itself.
Describe that.

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Now we go to videotape the
collapse of this building.

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It's amazing, amazing,
incredible.

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Picky word.
Oops.

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For the third time today, it's
reminiscent of those pictures.

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We've all seen too much on
television before when a

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building was deliberately
destroyed, destroyed by well

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placed dynamite to knock it
down.

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What was that Dan deliberately
destroyed by well placed

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dynamite to knock it down?
Well, that's Dan using his

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intuition, right?
We all should in fact use our

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intuition and.
The problem is he's never

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repeated these words before 911
and excuse me, after 911.

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And we never seen, with two
exceptions, this building coming

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down on mainstream television.
This should have been the most

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studied structural failure ever
in all the structural

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engineering schools and
architecture schools.

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It's it's a completely
unprecedented event and the

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largest ever so, but it's been
swept under the rug by the

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American Institute of
Architects, by the American

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Society of Civil Engineers.
So let's, let's look and see if

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it has feature number 2.
Is there a straight down

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symmetrical collapse into the
building's footprint?

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Let's look from West St.
Yeah, pretty straight down,

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pretty symmetrical.
How do you achieve that?

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Well, there's only one way.
Those columns which are holding

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up that building have to be
removed, and all of the core

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columns have to be removed at
once within a fraction of a

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second of each other, followed
by the perimeter columns about a

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second later.
But they all have to come down

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at once too.
And then you have to repeat that

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on every floor.
Any deviation of that pattern,

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you have problems.
Can these fires 'cause that

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level of precision, it's just
not going to happen.

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No.
And if you you get problems, if

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you have some of those
explosives don't go off, you can

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have problems like this and you
can have problems like this.

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Somebody has to go back into
that building and set off those

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explosives.
It's got to be perfect.

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This is a science.
If a building is damaged besides

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on the on one side, it would tip
over to that side.

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NIST says this damage was due to
thermal expansion on the

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northeast corner of the
building.

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Well, it should have fallen that
way.

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Not straight down, no.
And how fast did it fall?

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Well, physicists have analyzed
the building and discovered that

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it came down at freefall
acceleration for at least a

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third of its 7 second fall.
Well, wait a minute.

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What does that mean?
That's as fast as a bowling ball

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falling out of the sky, gaining
velocity every second.

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The definition of acceleration
and what's it accelerating

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through 40,000 tons of
structural steel that's three to

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five times stronger than it
needed to be to hold that

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building up.
NIST was denying that it came

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down to free fall, like
acknowledging this steel, saying

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that would mean there'd be no
structure under it.

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But members of architects and
Engineers for 911 Truth, they

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Stephen Jones and David David
Chandler in particular,

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challenged this publicly in
their press conference.

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And they had to admit and
acknowledge that it came down.

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You're right at freefall after
denying it for eight years.

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So seven years.
So we have finally the admission

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of the freefall, but the no
acknowledgement of what happened

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to all those columns.
So it could come down at free

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fall.
Are these fires going to take

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out all those columns at once?
No, that's not going to happen,

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is it?
So we'll look at the next

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feature of controlled
demolition, the total

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dismemberment of the steel
frame.

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I mean, we had a moment
resisting steel frame structure

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where the columns and beams are
rigidly welded 1 to another.

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They don't just fail these
connections naturally that the

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failure if there's going to
occur, it'll be a bending moment

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outside the connections.
But what we have is a House of

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Cards.
Literally, it looks like it

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comes down as and the columns
and beams are severed one from

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another in a four to six story
pile.

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So buildings that fall
naturally, they fall over to the

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path of least resistance.
They're the certainly damaged.

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It's recognizable though as a
building.

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It doesn't fall like a House of
Cards.

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The columns and beams are not
severed one from another because

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that's again the strongest
connection.

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Can these fires take out all
those column to beams

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connections?
No, not going to happen.

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Do we have sounds of explosions?
Then what?

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Because what could bring this
building down like we saw?

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Well, explosions could and
explosives, but you'd have

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witnesses that would hear the
sounds of explosions.

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They would see the flashes of
light.

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Let's see what we have here.
And this says there are no

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witnesses of explosions at this
building.

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They claimed to have interviewed
over 100 witnesses.

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Well, they missed all of these,
apparently.

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Here's Darrell, a medical
student interviewed that

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evening.
We.

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Were watching the building
actually because it was on fire,

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the bottom floor.
So the building was on fire and

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you know, we heard this, this
sound that sounded like a cloud

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Thunder turned around.
We were shocked to see that the

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building was well, it looked
like there was a shockwave

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ripping through the building and
the windows all busted out.

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And, you know, it was horrifying
and.

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Then you know about a second
later the box floor caved out

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and.
About a second later, the the

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floor caved out after a sound of
a clap of Thunder, a shockwave

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ripping through the building,
windows busting out.

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We have Kevin Mcpatten, former
Air Force medic who is doing

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triage in the building.
And but they're this is his

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experience after being told that
the building had structural

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damage and you better get away.
But this is what he hears before

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the building came down.
You.

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Heard explosions like boom and
it's like a distinct sound.

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It's not like like when the
compression like boom, boom,

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boom, boom, boom like floors
that were dropping and

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collapsing.
This was boom like you felt a

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rumble in the ground, like
almost like you wanted to grab

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onto something that to me, I
knew that was an explosion.

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There was no doubt in my mind.
And what did this gentleman Bill

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Rosati see?
I was standing like 2 blocks

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away and all of a sudden I just
seen a big flash and then I seen

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the building coming down and I
just seen people just running

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everywhere, chaotic like.
OK, a big flash.

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And how about Richard Patterson,
the captain of the FDNY?

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17 let go as well and was a
series of concussive explosions.

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And this first responder,
Patrick Dillon.

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I remember feeling that like it
would like, like freight trains

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underneath the earth, shaking
the earth, even shaking me.

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That's when we all saw Building
7 crumple in the middle.

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Like.
Way up at the top it it buckled.

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It buckled and then dropped.
And this gentleman, Richard

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Rotan's deputy director of New
York's Office of Emergency

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Management, he had to go into
the building.

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And then he had to go into that
building to assess it.

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You could hear the building
freak above us.

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You could hear things fall.
You could hear the fire burning.

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You could see columns just
hanging from the upper floors,

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gaping holes in the floors.
Up above us there was an

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elevated car that was blown out
of the shaft and it was down the

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hall.
Wait a minute.

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An elevator car blown out of the
shaft.

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This shaft right here.
Oops.

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Let's find that shaft there at
blown out one of these elevator

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cars blown out of the shaft in
the hall, which runs right next

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to the core here, 30 feet away.
That's an incredible explosion

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that could accomplish that.
What?

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What could cause that?
What could cause the experience

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here?
By Barry Jennings, who along

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with Mayor Giuliani's attorney,
Michael Hess, had been called to

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a meeting.
But they got there late back

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after both planes hit the
towers.

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But before they came down,
everybody had evacuated the

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building 7 and these guys didn't
know that they got up to the

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23rd floor and this is their
experience on the way down when.

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We got to the 8th floor.
I started walking to one side of

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the building.
That's how the building was

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gone.
The first explosion I heard when

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I was on the stairwell landing.
When we made it down to the 6th

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floor.
Then we made it back to the 8th

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floor, I heard some more
explosions.

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That's on the sound, like a
boom, like a like an explosion,

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more than one, yes.
We started walking down the

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stairs.
We went to the 8th floor, Big

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explosion flew us back into the
8th floor.

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When we get outside, police
officer comes to me and says you

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have to run.
We have more information of

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bombs, so you have to run.
Information of bombs Bombs like

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this heard in the late morning
of 9/11 in the vicinity of

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Building 7.
Yeah, here's one of the guys who

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can tell you I'm OK.
All right?

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Yeah, hold on.
You want to call?

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You want to call your mother or
something?

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Don't worry about me.
You need to make calls right

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now.
So NIST says there are no

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witnesses of explosions.
Well, that video is a witness of

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explosions in the late morning
of 9/11 in the vicinity of

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Building 7.
Well, if you had explosions and

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explosive demolition, you have
people that knew about it in

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advance there before knowledge,
like Chief Nick Fusconi, who

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says we're moving the command
post over this way.

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That building's coming down,
huh.

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He knows the building's coming
down.

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We've never lost a steel frame
fire protected structure due to

456
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:44,200
office fires alone.
Well, listen to Chief Pete

457
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,600
Hayden.
Well, we had our special

458
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,800
operations people set up
surveying instruments to monitor

459
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,640
and see if there's any movement
in the building.

460
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,120
We're concerned of the
possibility of collapse of the

461
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,480
building.
And we had a discussion with one

462
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,880
particular engineer there and we
asked him if we allowed it to

463
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:03,800
burn, could we anticipate A
collapse and if so, how soon.

464
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,600
And it turned out that he was
pretty much right on the money

465
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,360
that he said in his current
state about you have about 5

466
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,520
out.
Wait a minute, you have about 5

467
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,800
hours in its current state.
Again, we've never lost a steel

468
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,120
frame fire protected structure,
and this engineer is not only

469
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,600
saying the building's going to
come down, but he's saying it's

470
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,120
going to come down in about 5
hours.

471
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,280
Well, and it does.
It come down in exactly 5 hours

472
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,320
at 5:20 PM that evening, 523 to
be exact.

473
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,520
Of course, the prediction could
only have been made with

474
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,120
foreknowledge, and they won't
release the name of this

475
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:50,920
engineer who made this
startling, unprecedented genius

476
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,080
prediction.
Well, listen to these mysterious

477
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,000
construction workers walking
away from Building 7, hearing an

478
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:03,400
explosion over their shoulder,
looking back at the building and

479
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,200
then looking straight into the
CNN camera and saying this

480
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,320
what the building is about to
blow up, flame and debris coming

481
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,640
down.
How do they know the building is

482
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:44,000
about to blow up?
We've never lost a steel frame

483
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440
fire protected structure in
history.

484
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:53,960
Incredible.
And So what does Pat Patrick

485
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,840
Dillon also suggest to us?
And.

486
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:02,440
He pointed to what turned out to
be the entrance to Building 7's

487
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,280
lobby.
He said go in there, go in

488
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,040
there, take a break, take a
break.

489
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,640
There's other guys in there like
that.

490
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,800
And that's what I did.
I finished coming down off the

491
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,400
pile and climbed over the
wreckage of VC or Vessy and and

492
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,639
went into in those revolving
doors and just kind of fell on

493
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:22,960
the floor.
There were other guys in there

494
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,360
doing the same thing.
I was just shaking their heads

495
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:30,040
and, and spitting out poison
and, and, and trying to get

496
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,199
their, you know, get their lungs
back together again.

497
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,199
As I was, and I was on the
floor.

498
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,400
These battalion chiefs come in
through the revolving doors.

499
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,600
There was three of them.
They had the, the white helmets.

500
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,560
I, I, I didn't get any, any IDs
off them.

501
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,880
But as soon as they stepped
inside, what stepped in behind

502
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:55,600
them were these two people in
black with black ski masks on

503
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,000
and, and Uzis.
And the Uzis were, you know,

504
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,600
hanging off their necks.
And I don't know what they were

505
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,960
or who they were, but the
battalion chiefs started yelling

506
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,560
at us, like ordering us to get
out, get out of the get out of

507
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,480
this building, get out of this
building.

508
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,000
They're going to pull the
building everybody out now.

509
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:20,000
And they ordered us back out.
So guys in Uzis, that's

510
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,320
interesting to say the least,
but they're going to pull the

511
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:31,480
building, get out again.
This building had a few fires

512
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:35,320
that that afternoon.
They shouldn't even have been in

513
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,360
there in the 1st place.
But now they're told it's going

514
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,040
to come down.
And this is corroborated by

515
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,880
Captain Richard Patterson of the
New York Fire Department.

516
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,080
So he and I made our way over to
the entrance of the building.

517
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:56,400
Before we arrived there, there
was a construction worker who

518
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,600
happened to be.
He emerged from the dust cloud

519
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:08,240
and walked past the chief and I
and he said he had overheard the

520
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,000
chief's comment.
And he paused and said that'll

521
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,440
be coming down around 5:00.
We part ways.

522
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:23,320
We arrive at 7 and there were
two paramilitarily clad men with

523
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:32,680
black rifles, sunglasses and as
we approach the entrance they

524
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,040
closed ranks and said one of
them said this building has been

525
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,360
secured.
Which is odd because in my

526
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,000
experience in the FDN, why
anybody preventing access to the

527
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,440
fire department in the event of
a fire, that's a criminal act.

528
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,680
The chief and I were not in a
position to argue the point,

529
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,720
given the inequality and
weaponry present.

530
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,600
Again, guys in military garb
keeping firefighters from

531
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:13,520
entering the building.
This is extraordinary and the

532
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:21,640
example of foreknowledge being
told that this was going to be

533
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:31,280
coming down at 5:00, again,
really quite extraordinary.

534
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,760
How about Kevin Mcpadden?
He was a witness of those

535
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:40,880
explosions, but before he heard
and saw those explosions, he was

536
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:46,680
held back several blocks away
from Building 7 with others told

537
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,280
because they were told it was
going to come down.

538
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,920
So they're moving everybody
away.

539
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,600
And this is what he heard from a
radio held in the hands of who

540
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,680
he believed to be a Red Cross
worker.

541
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,880
At the last few seconds, he took
his hand off and you heard 321.

542
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,240
Wait a minute.
Do fires bring buildings down to

543
00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,840
countdowns?
What's really going on here?

544
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,600
This is again rather
extraordinary what we're

545
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,200
learning, and the BBC announced
the collapse of this building 20

546
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,920
minutes before it even happened.
Take a look.

547
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:27,520
Now, more on the latest building
collapse in New York.

548
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,760
You might have heard a few
moments ago was talking about

549
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,040
the Salomon Brothers building
collapsing, and indeed it has.

550
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,000
Apparently, that's only a few
100 yards away from where the

551
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:39,960
World Trade Center towers were,
and it seems that this was not a

552
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,680
result.
Of a new attack.

553
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,360
It was because the building had
been weakened.

554
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,680
During this morning's attacks,
we'll probably find out more now

555
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,680
about that from our
correspondent Jane Stanley.

556
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,640
Jane, what more can you tell us
about the Salomon Brothers

557
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,960
building and its collapse?
Well, only really what you

558
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,360
already know.
Details are very, very sketchy.

559
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Sketchy indeed.
They they apologize for this

560
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,240
grievous error, citing the
confusing events of the day.

561
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,360
What does this make them?
Psychic What's really going on

562
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,680
here?
Well, CNN is not to be outdone.

563
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,440
They announced the collapse at
11 O seven that morning.

564
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,800
In New York, Allen Dodds Frank
joins us on the phone in lower

565
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,280
Manhattan.
Allen, Allen, just two or three

566
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,080
minutes ago, there was yet
another collapse or explosion.

567
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,400
I'm now out of sight.
A Good Samaritan has taken me in

568
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,000
on Dwayne Street.
But at 10:45, there was another

569
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,240
collapse or explosion following
the 1030 collapse of the second

570
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:44,960
tower, and a firefighter rushed
by estimated that 50 stories

571
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,760
went down the street filled with
smoke was like a fire forest

572
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,360
fire roaring down a Canyon.
Now, as I think Patty Sabga and

573
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,040
others have told you, all of
Manhattan is covered.

574
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,760
Downtown Manhattan is covered
with thick. 50 stories went

575
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,120
down.
There was no other fifty story

576
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,800
buildings that went down.
There was no other building that

577
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,480
went down.
There were buildings that were

578
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,120
badly damaged, but they're
talking about building 7 here,

579
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:19,400
47 stories.
So how, how did how did they,

580
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:24,320
where did this story come from
so early in late morning

581
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:28,920
compared to the late afternoon?
Had that building come down at

582
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,920
that time, we wouldn't have any
photos or videos of it.

583
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,920
It would have been completely
obscured by the massive dust

584
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,640
cloud released when the twin
Towers went, Yeah, maybe that

585
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,600
was supposed to happen.
It was.

586
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,520
It was targeted for destruction
at that time.

587
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,440
So there wouldn't be all of
these photos and videos of the

588
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,480
free falling of Building 7.
And maybe those are mysterious

589
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,600
construction workers walking
away from Building 7, hearing

590
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,360
that explosion and telling us
it's going to blow up.

591
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,320
Maybe.
Maybe they had fixed a dud that

592
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:11,520
didn't go off at this time in
the morning and that's how they

593
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,680
knew it was going to go off
later and others did too.

594
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,400
Interesting.
Well, do we have experts that

595
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,920
agree about this?
Here's one of the top European

596
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:29,080
controlled demolition guys.
Danny Joenko is the expert on

597
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,760
this in Europe.
What did he say?

598
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,080
This is controlled demolition.
Sakovator.

599
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,760
Sakovator.
But it's not a school.

600
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,920
There's a team of experts.
Team of experts did this

601
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,680
professional work?
Without a doubt.

602
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaking of professionals,
there's three dozen structural

603
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,920
engineers among the 3600
architects and Engineers

604
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,880
demanding a new investigation
like Kamal obeyed.

605
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,720
A localized failure, he says, in
a steel frame building like

606
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:04,840
World Trade Center 7, cannot
cause a catastrophic collapse

607
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,640
like a House of Cards without a
simultaneous and patterned loss

608
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,360
of several of its columns at key
locations within the building.

609
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,480
Does that sound like something
that FIRE is going to do?

610
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Kamal is the CEO of Architects
and Engineers for 911 Truth and

611
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:34,560
he is joined by Professor Leroy
Halsey, who engaged in a four

612
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,160
year study of the collapse of
this building because he said we

613
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,600
got to figure out what what
happened to this building.

614
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,200
This is completely
unprecedented.

615
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,680
There's hundreds of similarly
designed buildings around the

616
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,960
world.
We got to find out, well, the

617
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:56,840
University of Alaska sponsored
him as the chair of the civil

618
00:42:56,840 --> 00:43:00,640
engineering department to find
out what what's going on here.

619
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,920
He's one of the top forensic
structural engineers in the

620
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:08,920
country after all.
So he proceeded to get his PhD

621
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,840
candidate students to compete
with one another, you one using

622
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:18,760
one program, very sophisticated
program, SAP 2000 and Abacus the

623
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,920
other program.
And they corroborated each

624
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,280
other's results.
They found that if this building

625
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:31,200
was going to fall because of the
failure of column 79 as NIST

626
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:37,320
claimed, it would fall over
intuitive right to the path of

627
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,560
least resistance to the east
where column 79 is in the

628
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:48,720
northeast corner.
And so he found that, gosh, if

629
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,400
in order to get it to fail like
we have, we see in the video in

630
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,280
the center, we have to remove
all the columns in the building

631
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,280
at once.
And then the University of

632
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:07,160
Alaska on the left looks exactly
like the video in the center.

633
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,720
Compare that to NIST's computer
model, where they try to get it

634
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:18,120
to fall, failing 400 structural
steel connections every second

635
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,480
in order to try to get it to
fall without telling us.

636
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,440
They're doing that, by the way,
but they can't even get it to

637
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,920
fall and it begins to tip over
in fact, so they stop it 2

638
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,040
seconds in to the overall
collapse.

639
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:40,560
So they've their own computer
model disproves their theories.

640
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,440
What did the University of
Alaska fine fire did not 'cause

641
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,360
the collapse of this building,
the temperatures were not high

642
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,560
enough to cause the weakening of
the steel framing.

643
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,440
Thermal expansion did not result
in a loss of support for the

644
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,440
beams and the girders.
This building was a global

645
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,040
failure.
Involving what?

646
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,800
The near simultaneous failure of
all the columns in the building,

647
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,920
not a progressive collapse, is
claimed by NIST.

648
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,080
Well, how do you do that?
There's only one way, and that's

649
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:15,840
controlled demolition.
And for which we would need, in

650
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:21,360
this case, in building 7,
incendiaries used by the

651
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,640
military to cut through steel
like a hot knife through butter.

652
00:45:25,240 --> 00:45:27,120
Do we have evidence of this?
Oh yeah.

653
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,240
Provided by who?
FEMA in their Appendix C among

654
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,760
others in their Building
Performance Assessment Team

655
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,400
report of May of 2002, they have
a metallurgical examination of

656
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,040
the steel.
What did they find?

657
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,280
Never before observed eutectic
reactions involving

658
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,960
intergranular melting capable of
turning a solid steel girder

659
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,720
into Swiss cheese like we see in
this piece of World Trade

660
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:00,880
Center. 7 steel with silver
dollar size holes.

661
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:07,760
Fire doesn't do this to steel
doesn't do this either.

662
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,560
In this piece of World Trade
Center twin towers beam thinned

663
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:19,400
to razor sharpness, they say a
rapid oxidation and sulfidation

664
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,480
liquid iron.
That's molten iron.

665
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:31,120
That's 3000°F.
Office fires are not even half

666
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,680
this temperature.
Typically sulfur formed during

667
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,040
this hot corrosion attack on the
steel.

668
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,200
Where did the sulfur come from?
This speculates maybe it came

669
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:51,040
from the gypsum board.
Gypsum board has been used for

670
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,640
100 years to protect steel from
fire.

671
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,640
It has never turned around and
attacked the steel that has been

672
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:02,360
designed to protect that.
This, in this metallurgical

673
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,360
examination results, is termed
the deepest mystery uncovered in

674
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,840
the investigation, yet it's
completely ignored by NIST.

675
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,440
But the New York Times calls it
that.

676
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:20,480
And in fact, the author of the
FEMA report, Dr. Jonathan

677
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,280
Barnett, says steel members in
the debris pile appear to have

678
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:29,000
been partly evaporated in
extraordinarily high

679
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,000
temperatures.
Well, what does it take to

680
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,320
evaporate steel 4000°?
Where are these temperatures

681
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,680
coming from?
Nothing in the official

682
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,600
narrative can explain any of
these temperatures.

683
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:50,080
And there's so much more,
including the evaporation of the

684
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:55,480
beams documented here by Abelhas
and Astani Ozil, a structural

685
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,560
engineer who supports the
official narrative.

686
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:06,760
We show we have liquid molten
steel or iron pouring out of the

687
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,920
material held in the crab claw
excavator, and we can tell the

688
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:16,160
temperature of molten steel or
iron by its color.

689
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,720
That's just the physics of the
luminescence of the steel.

690
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:26,200
We're exceeding 2500°F here.
What in the official narrative

691
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,760
can accomplish this?
Office fires are only half these

692
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,360
temperatures.
Jet fuel burns at less than that

693
00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:38,680
600° according to this
engineering firm and this

694
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:48,680
trading resource firm that says
600° in open air fires may get a

695
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,560
little hotter than that in the
worst case.

696
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Mathematical models for
experimentation in fires,

697
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:03,840
18130°, absolute worst case,
we're twice these temperatures.

698
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,200
What can get at twice those
temperatures?

699
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,040
Can thermite do that?
Well, what is thermite anyway?

700
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,440
An incendiary used by the
military, thermite is a compound

701
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,600
of iron oxide and aluminum
which, when ignited, sustains an

702
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,280
extreme heat reaction, creating
molten iron.

703
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,880
In just two seconds, thermite
can reach temperatures over

704
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:34,240
4500°F, quite enough to liquefy
steel.

705
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:39,480
We know that open air fires
cannot burn hot enough to melt

706
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,600
steel, but metal had melted at
the base of the tap flowers.

707
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,760
Appendix C of the FEMA report
describes sulfur residues on the

708
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,280
World Trade Center.
Steel.

709
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,120
The New York Times called this
the deepest mystery of all.

710
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,880
Sulfur slightly lowers the
melting point of iron, and iron

711
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,520
oxide and iron sulfide had
formed on the surface of the

712
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:08,440
structural steel.
Sulfur used with thermite is

713
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,720
called thermate, producing even
faster results.

714
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,640
Well, maybe we're getting
somewhere here, because if

715
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:23,040
thermite were used, it would
explain the presence of of

716
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,240
extreme temperatures 4 and
5000°F.

717
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:34,440
It would explain the presence of
iron, molten iron, elemental

718
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,120
iron.
We haven't used iron in our

719
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:42,200
skyscrapers for 100 years.
Where is all this melted iron

720
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,000
coming from?
Fe.

721
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,240
It would explain the presence of
sulfur too.

722
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,680
Sulfur's added to thermite to
become thermite, where it's much

723
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,400
more effective at cutting
through steel.

724
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:03,240
So we have to ask ourselves,
this is all evidence of ignited

725
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,680
thermite.
Is it?

726
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,760
Yes.
It can only be that.

727
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,880
Is there any other evidence of
ignited thermite?

728
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,240
Yeah.
Who's providing this?

729
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:16,600
the US Geological Survey in
their particle Atlas of the

730
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,760
World Trade Center.
Dust.

731
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,040
In 2005 it's published.
What do they find?

732
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,800
Billions of what?
Previously molten, meaning

733
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:34,040
3000°F.
Iron, meaning the byproduct of

734
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:37,080
thermite.
Microspheres.

735
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,200
Well, how do they get to be
spherical?

736
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,040
They're about size of a human
hair on average.

737
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:45,360
Visible.
They are visible to the to the

738
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,080
naked eye.
Well, aerosolized liquids form

739
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,760
themselves into spheres by
surface tension.

740
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:57,600
That's just what they do and
especially under explosive

741
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:02,240
pressure so that this all makes
sense.

742
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:08,960
Used in the EPA says these are
used as a signature component to

743
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:11,960
distinguish World Trade Center
dust from common office building

744
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:13,680
dust.
In other words, it's not even

745
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,280
World Trade Center dust unless
it has these previously molten

746
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,960
iron microspheres in it.
We don't know where they came

747
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:26,680
from, but they got to have it.
RJ Lee Group doesn't know where

748
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:32,040
they came from either, but they
say they comprise up to 6% of

749
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,040
some of these samples, dust
samples.

750
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,920
By extrapolation, we're talking
about up to 4 tons of the

751
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:50,880
evidence of thermite here, with
no other rational explanation.

752
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,160
RJ Lee says these are formed
during the World Trade Center

753
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,400
event, Not before, by the
welders putting the building

754
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,960
together.
Not afterward by the ironworkers

755
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,440
taking the building apart, but
during the event.

756
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,960
Well, how would they get formed?
We could do an experiment.

757
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,440
Experiment is the arbiter of
competing hypotheses.

758
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,520
Let's light some thermite, see
what happens.

759
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:27,240
We see what looks like thousands
of sparks, but we can wait till

760
00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:32,200
they fall in the pan as
previously molten iron

761
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:37,440
microspheres.
Well, that's pretty clear what's

762
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,320
happening here.
Thermite creates molten iron

763
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,440
microspheres.
Molten iron microspheres are

764
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,000
found in all the World Trade
Center dust.

765
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:50,160
That was all evidence of ignited
thermite and can only be that.

766
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:55,200
Is there any evidence of
unignited thermite in a World

767
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,480
Trade Center dust?
Yeah, A-Team of eight

768
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,880
international scientists led by
Niels Harvard and Steven Jones,

769
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:09,760
nuclear physicist and chemistry
professor, and they analyze 7

770
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,440
independently collected samples
that are sent to them, and they

771
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,520
find these curious red Gray
chips.

772
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,160
They thought they were paint,
but unlike paint, they're

773
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:27,640
attracted strongly by a magnet.
And so they get real curious,

774
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,960
what's all this iron doing?
Primer paint has iron in it, but

775
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,720
it's not strongly attracted to a
magnet like this.

776
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:40,880
So they analyze the red layer
and they do X-ray energy

777
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:46,720
dispersive spectroscopy in this
top layer and they find that it

778
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:57,520
has peaks of aluminium and iron.
Come on.

779
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,880
I'm anyway aluminum and iron and
manganese, which is added again

780
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,400
to thermite to become thermate.
What?

781
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,920
What's the signature of thermite
doing in these paint chips?

782
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,640
That's not right.
It shouldn't be there.

783
00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:21,200
So they do.
They zoom in 50,000 times with

784
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:28,560
an electron microscope and they
find what they find Iron eye

785
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:37,760
crystals and aluminum platelets
that are 1000 times smaller than

786
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:42,040
the diameter of a human hair.
Nano size.

787
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,760
We're at the nanoscale here.
They're set in a matrix, a bed

788
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:52,640
of oxygen, silica, carbon.
This is organic material.

789
00:55:52,640 --> 00:56:00,560
Organic material is what's added
to TNT, high energy explosives

790
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,600
to expand rapidly as a gas and
knock things over.

791
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:09,920
That's how explosives work.
Whereas incendiaries work by

792
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,400
means of extreme heat and burn
things up.

793
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,800
Here it looks like we have an A,
a mixture of both.

794
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:21,920
So they get real curious.
They do a peer reviewed

795
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,640
literature research and they
find this has been made already

796
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,240
before.
It's called super thermite.

797
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,040
Lawrence Livermore lab developed
it before 2001.

798
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,000
Explosive composites based on
thermite reactions whose fuel

799
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,040
and oxidizer constituents are
intimately mixed on the

800
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:44,840
nanometer size scale.
Well, this is interesting.

801
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,520
They found that when they reduce
these particles to the nanometer

802
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:55,520
size scale, the surface volume
increases exponentially and you

803
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,440
have an instantaneous chemical
reaction.

804
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,360
So you've engineered an
incendiary which works by means

805
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,680
of heat, massive heat, to become
more explosive.

806
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:14,000
So Lawrence Livermore Lab, when
they ignite their chips, they

807
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,040
found that they produce these
peaks of energy.

808
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:28,120
This is aluminothermic reaction
and producing this, this

809
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:34,360
behavior, well, an exothermic
reaction is also produced by the

810
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:38,480
red Gray chips that they found
from the World Trade Center at

811
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:43,640
about 425°C eight, 58150
Fahrenheit.

812
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,440
Well, this is fascinating.
They're doing the same thing as

813
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,720
the peer reviewed aluminothermic
materials.

814
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:56,120
Not only that, what do you
imagine that they produce when

815
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:02,240
they're ignited?
Molten iron microspheres with

816
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:08,720
the same signature chemical
signature as the molten iron

817
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:13,600
microspheres found and produced
by RJ Lee and the US Geological

818
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,960
Survey in all the World Trade
Center dust.

819
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:22,040
So we know exactly where those
previously molten iron

820
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,960
microspheres came from.
They came from these red Gray

821
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,960
chips as if we didn't know.
They're found attached to

822
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:35,000
partially ignited red Gray chips
in the World Trade Center dust,

823
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:41,280
as you see here and here.
You see this is a very advanced

824
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,120
materials not made in a cave in
Afghanistan.

825
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,840
It's made only in the most
advanced defense contracting

826
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,440
laboratories.
And they conclude in this 25

827
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,680
page peer reviewed paper in the
Bentham Open Chemical Physics

828
00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:00,400
Journal that the red layer is
active unreacted thermitic

829
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,400
material incorporating
nanotechnology.

830
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,840
It's a highly energetic
pyrotechnic or explosive

831
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,200
material.
This is all been documented

832
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,520
since 2009.
Nobody else has submitted their

833
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:21,000
peer reviewed paper documenting
or, or trying to challenge

834
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,600
officially these results.
They yeah, they'll wave their

835
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:26,880
hands.
Oh, this is just paint.

836
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:31,840
Well, paint doesn't have these
exotic properties and it's, it's

837
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:36,760
clearly not paint.
So this is a set of evidence

838
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:43,720
that has all of the 10 key
characteristic features and some

839
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,680
very uncharacteristic features
of controlled demolition,

840
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,880
explosive destruction with
incendiaries.

841
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:56,720
In the case of Building 7, this
None of these features can be

842
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:00,640
accomplished by fire, the
official cause of this

843
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,520
building's collapse, let alone
all of them with additional

844
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,240
circumstantial evidence and
corroborative.

845
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:11,600
Eyewitness testimony.
This is proof of controlled

846
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:17,400
demolition, a body of proof
that's convinced 3600 architects

847
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,440
and engineers to sign on to the
petition demanding a new

848
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,320
investigation.
And many of them appear in our

849
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:31,360
ongoing film series 9/11 crime
scene to Courtroom, in which

850
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,760
Mick Harrison of the the
litigation director for the

851
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,880
lawyers Committee for 911
inquiry and myself are in the

852
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:43,040
boardroom giving and providing
all of this evidence along with

853
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:49,400
our experts to the grand jury.
Here's just a taste of that film

854
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,840
series.
No matter how improbable the

855
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,280
conclusion may appear, and
you've eliminated the

856
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:02,000
impossible, whatever remains.
However improbable.

857
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:08,240
Must be the truth.
We're bringing alive in the film

858
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,560
the 60 exhibits of the 9/11 WTC
evidence contained in the

859
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,160
Lawyers Committee Grand Jury
petition that have already been

860
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,720
submitted to the US Attorney in
Matt Hat to present to a special

861
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,280
criminal jury.
This historic investigation is

862
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,080
ongoing, and there's a role for
you in it.

863
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,240
Yes, you can help us bring the
real perpetrators to justice.

864
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,000
Through this film series.
We're bringing together two

865
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,720
dozen experts in their fields.
They ignored any scenario

866
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,120
involving incendiaries,
demolition work.

867
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,400
You're going to set charges on
each.

868
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,160
Floor.
The building could not have been

869
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,160
brought down by office fires.
In other words, all of the.

870
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:55,960
Interior columns over 8 stories
came down basically lost at

871
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:00,600
once.
I could make out what what

872
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,040
looked like from a science
fiction movie.

873
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:04,880
Most in lava.
OK.

874
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,760
And he paused and said that'll
be coming down around 5:00.

875
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:15,160
We'll be filming these evidence
presentations not only for

876
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,880
filings with jury, also
presentations to each.

877
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,720
Of you We're inviting you to
serve as virtual grand jury

878
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:34,400
during each episode.
And yes, we've created four of

879
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:39,160
these episodes already and you
can see them at our website,

880
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:52,480
richardgage911.orgor911c2c.org,
the website for the film series.

881
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,360
And you can also help Co produce
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882
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:03,840
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883
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:08,080
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884
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885
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So yes, take part in that if you
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886
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,040
It's free.
And we have to ask ourselves,

887
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,840
what about the Twin Towers?
Oh my God, if Building 7 was a

888
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:30,960
controlled demolition, and I
believe we've just proved that

889
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:38,240
it was good, is it, is it
possible that the the same site,

890
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:42,280
the World Trade Center site, the
Twin towers could exhibit some

891
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:49,040
of the same alarming evidence?
Well, it's even more alarming

892
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,600
after a look at it.
We have upward outward arching

893
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,840
streamers, a geometry of
fireworks freely flying

894
01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,920
structural steel sections
weighing 4 and 8 tons each,

895
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:06,720
laterally ejected at 80 miles an
hour, clocked by physicists,

896
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:15,320
trailing thick white smoke
clouds landing up to 600 feet in

897
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,800
every direction.
Why are they trailing thick

898
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,840
white smoke clouds?
Steel is not flammable in office

899
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:28,560
fire or jet fuel conditions.
What's going on here that every

900
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:33,520
one of these structural steel
sections is trailing smoke?

901
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:38,200
Well, let's look again at
thermite and how it burns and

902
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:44,400
what it create.
In addition to molten iron, wipe

903
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:52,000
smoke clouds of aluminum oxide,
ash, the other by product of

904
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,080
thermite in addition to molten
iron.

905
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,680
So now we know.
Well, let's look at the

906
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,000
evidence.
Do we have the features of

907
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,640
controlled demolition?
Let's take them one at a time.

908
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,800
Is there a sudden onset of
destruction?

909
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,240
Yeah.
The north tower is standing at

910
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:11,680
rest, and all of a sudden it's
in uniform downward motion, no

911
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:16,880
jolt, no hesitation upon impact
of the cold hard steel below.

912
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,800
Same with the South tower, it's
standing at rest and all of a

913
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:26,720
sudden it's in uniform downward
motion, no jolt, no hesitation

914
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,800
upon impact.
With that steel below the plain

915
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,960
point of plain impacts, we're
told that the upper part drove

916
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:39,560
the rest of the building down to
the ground and then destroyed

917
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,480
itself.
This is called the crush down,

918
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:47,880
crush up theory produced by
Sedentic Bazan of Northwestern

919
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:52,120
University in Chicago, who
submitted this mathematically

920
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:57,800
obscure paper just two days
after 911.

921
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,880
The rest of us are trying to get
our bearings right.

922
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:03,200
We're in shock.
What?

923
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:06,560
Who did this to us?
When's the next attack coming?

924
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,080
And not this guy.
He apparently he's in his den,

925
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:16,360
creating the key theoretical
basis for NIST's column failure

926
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:20,600
theory, which they use to this
day.

927
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,000
Incredible.
But it suffers from some key

928
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,120
problems, one of which is the
violation of Newton's third law

929
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:32,360
of motion.
There's an equal and opposite

930
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,760
destructive force when two
bodies collide.

931
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,240
Take a Mack truck.
Run it into a Volkswagen.

932
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:39,600
Who wins?
Right?

933
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:42,840
The the Mack truck wins, not the
Volkswagen.

934
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,080
Doesn't matter if we drop the
Volkswagen on to the Mack truck

935
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,720
now.
The lightest part of a structure

936
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,400
cannot destroy the cold, hard,
heavier, intact steel below.

937
01:06:54,000 --> 01:07:00,240
Again, the lightest part is at
the top with I beams, wide

938
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:04,240
flange beams that are only three
quarter inch thick, but they get

939
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,440
bigger and thicker as you go
down to mid height.

940
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:12,520
You're 52 inches by 22 inches
and then they that infills and

941
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,840
you're almost solid steel at the
bottom.

942
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,120
Well, let's take a look at that
Volkswagen.

943
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,480
Is it destroying the lower part?
I'll make it easier for you.

944
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,720
Watch the lower red line, the
point of plane impacts.

945
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:32,520
Is the upper part destroying the
lower part, or is the upper

946
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:38,880
section of this building being
destroyed itself, telescoping in

947
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,800
on itself in the first couple of
seconds?

948
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,400
That's what's happening, the
Volkswagen's being destroyed.

949
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:51,000
If it were destroying the lower
part, you would see it after

950
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,760
three seconds.
But none of the photos, none of

951
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,400
the video, show an upper part
destroying the rest of the

952
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,640
building down.
You already saw it's been

953
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,160
destroyed itself.
If it were there, it would have

954
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,840
destroyed these few remaining
columns standing 900 feet in the

955
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:14,920
air for about a dozen seconds
until they also suffer an

956
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:19,920
explosive charge below, and then
that column descends frame by

957
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:26,000
frame through the smoke that it
is falling through.

958
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,319
So let's take a look at this
from another perspective.

959
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:34,760
What are we looking at?
Are we looking at a building

960
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:41,479
collapsing, or are we looking at
something that looks more like a

961
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:46,080
volcanic eruption with upward
outward arching streamers?

962
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:51,160
A geometry of fireworks freely
flying structural steel

963
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:59,720
sections, In this case freely
flying solid molten objects

964
01:09:00,319 --> 01:09:04,319
trailed by thick white smoke
clouds?

965
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:11,200
Yes, the analogy is much closer
to a volcanic eruption and yes,

966
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,160
the volcanic eruption is on the
right.

967
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:18,520
If you had any confusion there,
but they very closely resemble

968
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:26,560
each other Plus so so the this
is not what we're seeing at all.

969
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:33,279
Crush down and then crush up
theory, the pile driver theory.

970
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:39,120
What we're seeing is that it's
it's a four stage operation,

971
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:42,399
First stage like a controlled
demolition, much like Building

972
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:47,040
7.
Second stage, outward driven,

973
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,920
laterally ejected, freely flying
structural steel sections.

974
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:59,240
Third stage, remaining in the
air for 900 feet and for a dozen

975
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,640
seconds.
Fourth stage, the falling core,

976
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:07,200
3 seconds.
So let's ask ourselves the

977
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,320
second feature, is it true?
Do we have patterned explosions

978
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,720
and flashes of light?
What could really bring this

979
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,640
building down?
Well, there's 156 first

980
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:22,600
responders who are witnesses of
explosions, many of them before

981
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:27,560
the tower comes down.
These were these professionals

982
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:33,000
were recorded within a month
after 911 by their Fire

983
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:37,120
Commissioner, Thomas von Essen,
producing 12,000 pages of

984
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,200
testimony which hardly anybody
read.

985
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:49,080
All of them Professor Graham
McQueen did. 156 of these 501st

986
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,880
responders were found to be
eyewitnesses of explosions.

987
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:55,560
Let's look at a few of them.
We felt the ground shake.

988
01:10:55,560 --> 01:11:00,120
You could see the tower sway,
and then it just came down.

989
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,560
Wait a minute.
They're seeing something,

990
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,040
they're feeling something,
they're hearing something, and

991
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,280
then the building comes down.
There's a very specific order of

992
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,520
events that many of them refer
to.

993
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,680
All of a sudden, the ground just
started shaking.

994
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:18,040
Felt like a train running under
my feet.

995
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:21,560
The next thing we know we look
up on the towers collapsing.

996
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:26,240
Shook my bones shortly before
the 1st tower came down.

997
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,560
I remember feeling the ground
shaking or the terrible noise

998
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,880
and then debris just started
flying everywhere.

999
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,040
I saw flash flash flash at the
lower level of the building.

1000
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:40,600
You know like when they demolish
a building with each popping

1001
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,720
sound, initially an orange and
then a red flash came out of the

1002
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,880
building.
Then it would just go all around

1003
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:51,400
the building on both sides saw a
number of brief light sources

1004
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,120
being emitted from inside the
building.

1005
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:58,720
Between floors 10 and 15, he saw
about six of these brief flashes

1006
01:11:59,480 --> 01:12:04,920
accompanied by a crackling sound
before the tower collapsed.

1007
01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,360
I saw low level flashes, I saw
flash, flash, flash.

1008
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:13,880
And then it looked like the
building came down, an explosion

1009
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,600
appeared at the very top
simultaneously from all four

1010
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,120
sides.
Materials shot out horizontally.

1011
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:25,360
And then there seemed to be a
momentary delay before you could

1012
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,640
see the beginning of the
collapse.

1013
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:34,080
How specific does this Fire
Chief need to be this expert

1014
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,000
witness?
This ignored all of these

1015
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,040
witnesses of explosions, saying
that once again there are no

1016
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:46,120
explosions outside of the
initial jet plane jet impact in

1017
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,360
the building.
There's an explosion in the

1018
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:52,320
South tower, one floor and or
another when it hit about the

1019
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,280
5th floor.
I figure it was a bomb because

1020
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,520
it looked like a synchronized,
deliberate kind of thing.

1021
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,560
Seemed like on television when
they blow up these buildings

1022
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,600
seemed like it was going all the
way around like a belt.

1023
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,600
All these explosions, the
building was blowing out on all

1024
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,520
four sides.
We actually heard the pops, you

1025
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,760
know, you heard the pops of the
building.

1026
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,600
I thought the terrorist plant an
explosive somewhere in the

1027
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,680
building.
That's how loud it was, a

1028
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:24,320
crackling explosive.
Another loud boom at the upper

1029
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,960
floors and in a series of
smaller explosions which

1030
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,920
appeared to go completely around
the building at the upper

1031
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,800
floors.
And another louder shattering

1032
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:38,320
blast with a large fireball that
blew out more debris the lower

1033
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,320
level of the building.
You know, like when they

1034
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,840
demolish a building.
That's what I thought I saw.

1035
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,600
Do you see any flashers?
I said yes, I thought it was

1036
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,320
just me.
He said no, I saw them too.

1037
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,760
Everybody, I think at that point
still thought these things were

1038
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,080
blown up.
So I was fully expecting

1039
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,000
anything else to blow up.
You were there when the planes

1040
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:58,800
hit?
No, I was there when the

1041
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,560
building exploded.
He see, he said.

1042
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:06,360
You mean when it fell down?
No, when it exploded.

1043
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:09,480
How about these gentlemen in
this Firehouse?

1044
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,280
NIST says there's no other
witnesses.

1045
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,520
They claim to have interviewed
101st responders and they missed

1046
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:31,280
every one of these 186.
How is that even possible?

1047
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,240
Or was it more of a cover up?
Do we have a straight down

1048
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:39,160
symmetrical progression?
Well, the South tower begins to

1049
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,400
tip over like you imagined that
it might.

1050
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:47,400
That's in fact it's a 20°.
So we have asymmetrical loading

1051
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,160
on the structure below by this S
tower that's falling off.

1052
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,920
We have asymmetrical damage from
the fires, asymmetrical damage

1053
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:01,480
from the impact of the planes.
How in the world then, do we get

1054
01:15:01,480 --> 01:15:06,640
complete symmetrical progression
of destruction, just like the

1055
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:11,360
firefighters described all the
way around each face of the

1056
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,800
building?
It makes no sense.

1057
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:22,600
Well, maybe it does make sense
if we look in and zoom in on the

1058
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:29,520
leading wave of these
explosions, which can only be

1059
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,320
that just like the firefighters
described floor by floor popping

1060
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,720
out of the building and they
heard those pops.

1061
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,680
We're not looking at a nuclear
weapon going off.

1062
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,480
We're looking at a series of
what what must be preplaced

1063
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:51,000
explosives floor by floor here.
We're not looking at directed

1064
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:55,840
energy weapons.
They don't have, they don't,

1065
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,600
they've never been tested at
this scale for this purpose,

1066
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,640
right?
Floor by floor destruction.

1067
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:07,120
How do you time that?
How do you, how do you create?

1068
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:14,280
Why not just use explosives?
So we have to find out if we

1069
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:19,400
have squips or isolated
explosive ejections which are

1070
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:23,000
occurring well below the zone of
destruction. 20 stories below,

1071
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,520
40 stories below the zone of
destruction.

1072
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,800
No accounting for these isolated
explosive ejections anywhere in

1073
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:35,240
the official narrative, 60
stories down below the zone of

1074
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,120
destruction.
What is happening here?

1075
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:45,600
These are obviously mistimed
explosions occurring with solids

1076
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,960
ejected from the core and in the
South tower on the left side.

1077
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:55,720
In this looped video, we see
about a dozen such explosive

1078
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,320
ejections, essentially
liquefying the structure,

1079
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,760
reducing its rigidity to nothing
so that it doesn't continue its

1080
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,240
angular momentum and fall off
the building to the right,

1081
01:17:10,960 --> 01:17:13,680
reacting off the solid object
below it.

1082
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:20,360
No, it just falls back down,
eventually into into the

1083
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,000
building and then straight down
also.

1084
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:30,520
And how fast The north tower is
easily measurable by physics

1085
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:37,000
teachers, David Chandler in this
case, and physicists. 64% of

1086
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:41,560
gravity, it's falling at that.
That is 2/3 of freefall

1087
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,240
acceleration.
That's almost as fast as a

1088
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:47,000
bowling ball falling out of the
sky.

1089
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:49,720
The bowling ball had no
resistance.

1090
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:55,960
This had only 10% of the
resistance left from the

1091
01:17:55,960 --> 01:18:02,800
structural steel columns.
So 90% of the structure strength

1092
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,920
of the structural columns has
been removed, where we're

1093
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:10,680
talking about columns like this,
52 inches wide, 22 inches high.

1094
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,200
These columns, where did they
go?

1095
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:22,440
We're talking about 287 massive
columns, 47 in the core and 240

1096
01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:27,360
in the perimeter.
There's more steel than glass on

1097
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,800
the exterior of these particular
buildings.

1098
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:37,240
The structural steel sections.
What happened to them that the

1099
01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:43,680
that they're being removed so
that they can so that the the

1100
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:49,360
building can fall that fast?
Well, let's look at them in

1101
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,680
particular because they are
laterally ejected, which we

1102
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:57,160
already saw some evidence of.
And here we see they are impaled

1103
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,600
into the skyscrapers all around
them.

1104
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:05,000
Banding as far away is 600 feet,
destroying the Winter Gardens,

1105
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,520
destroying the Deutsche Bank
building.

1106
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:13,120
These are these structural steel
sections are composed of three

1107
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:18,760
vertical columns tied together
by spandrel panels that this

1108
01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:24,960
gentleman is on top of.
There's only four bolts at the

1109
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:29,720
top and bottom of these at the
point of plane impacts, tying

1110
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:34,120
them into the columns above and
below.

1111
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:43,840
So all the plane had to do with
its massive kinetic energy going

1112
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:51,640
500 miles an hour is push in
with 10,000 gallons of fuel.

1113
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:59,680
A lot of mass, a lot of speed
pushing in these orthogonal

1114
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,600
structural column sections,
shearing those bolts.

1115
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:11,640
It didn't slice those columns,
it sheared those bolts and they

1116
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:16,560
are freely flying that that's
the plane.

1117
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,920
And this is now the collapse.
About an hour later or so,

1118
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,400
freely flying structural steel
sections weighing 4 and 8 tons

1119
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:27,920
laterally.
Eject.

1120
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:29,800
Look at this one.
Ejected.

1121
01:20:30,280 --> 01:20:31,840
This one's going to hit building
7.

1122
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:36,240
Wait.
Back two, forward 2, back two.

1123
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,880
What are we seeing?
We're seeing the lateral

1124
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,320
ejection.
It's not.

1125
01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:43,680
How does gravity work down?
What's going on here?

1126
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:50,440
Out, and then gravity begins to
take over till you get a 45°

1127
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,760
angle or so.
And what is it?

1128
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,520
Trailing?
Thick white smoke Clouds of

1129
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,920
what?
Aluminum oxide?

1130
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,320
Ash.
The other byproduct of thermite.

1131
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,000
Well, there's enough energy here
to hurl a 200 LB cannonball 3

1132
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,920
miles.
And there's a lot of cannonballs

1133
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:16,080
here, hundreds of them hurled
600 feet at 80 miles an hour,

1134
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:21,160
well beyond the boundary of the
World Trade Center, impacting,

1135
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:25,240
as you can see, on the north
World Trade Center 7 even.

1136
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:29,800
But NIST says that is not a
significant factor in that

1137
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,920
building's collapse.
There was some damage to the

1138
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,480
north to the southwest corner
here, but the collapse started

1139
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:40,360
in the northeast corner right
here.

1140
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:44,080
So we have, let's think this
through.

1141
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:49,440
If 100,000 tons or so of steel
framing is distributed, most all

1142
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:55,520
of it outside the footprint of
the building, then what's left

1143
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:01,440
to crush the building?
This is about 2/3 of the weight

1144
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:06,440
of this building.
It's not available to crush the

1145
01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:12,680
building and also be 600 feet
away or 200 or whatever.

1146
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,640
Maybe it's a concrete.
Let's look for the concrete

1147
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:21,400
because we have 110 floors, each
an acre in size, composed of

1148
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,880
sections like this concrete
poured on metal decking

1149
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,040
supported by lightweight steel
trusses.

1150
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:33,920
We're looking for about 110 acre
size assemblies.

1151
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:40,000
How many do we find?
Not 50, not 20, not ten, not one

1152
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:46,560
acre size floor, not 1/2 acre,
not 1/4 acre, not a 16th of an

1153
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:51,720
acre size floor in a real
pancake and collapse like this

1154
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:56,200
one in Bangkok, Thailand due to
the recent Myanmar earthquake.

1155
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,760
We have pancakes.
Compare the pancakes.

1156
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:07,880
We have 5 stories, maybe 6,
maybe 7 of concrete floors.

1157
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:13,440
That's a real gravitational
collapse naturally caused.

1158
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:16,800
That's what we're looking for.
In fact, we're looking for

1159
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,920
something that's three times the
height of this, given that we

1160
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,120
have 110 floors in the Twin
Towers.

1161
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:30,680
So we don't find that, though
we're missing the concrete.

1162
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,320
Where'd all?
Oh, that's where it went.

1163
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:40,440
It's pulverized in mid air.
What can pulverize 90,000 tons

1164
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:47,520
of concrete floors in mid air.
Well, according to the American

1165
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:53,320
Society of Testing Materials
report C856 concrete is

1166
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:59,440
powderized at as low a
temperature as 1500°F.

1167
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:06,440
We have 4 and 5000°F.
What do you think it can do if

1168
01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:12,040
at 1500°F it turns to white
powder decomposed hydration

1169
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:17,160
products?
Well, yeah, we've got a

1170
01:24:17,160 --> 01:24:22,000
mechanism that can account for
the decomposition of the

1171
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:23,800
concrete in this incredible
heat.

1172
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:32,440
Not only ASTM is C856 but a fire
safety journal which says 2200°

1173
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,920
concrete is completely
decomposed.

1174
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:43,520
We have twice these temperatures
with nano thermite and thermite

1175
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:48,360
and this is documented very
well.

1176
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,560
So we know how the concrete can
be pulverized.

1177
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:58,920
But what we have to ask
ourselves then, if that's true

1178
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:05,080
and 90,000 tons of concrete is
pulverized and distributed

1179
01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:11,000
laterally across lower Manhattan
in a blanket 3 inches thick from

1180
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:19,000
river to river in a three square
mile area, then how can it crush

1181
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,480
the building?
This is another third of the

1182
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:29,400
weight of this building not
available to crush the building.

1183
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:37,720
What's crushing the building?
Nothing is crushing the

1184
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:40,920
building.
That was a lie produced by

1185
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:44,360
Zedenik Bazant of Chicago,
Northwestern University,

1186
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,680
Northwestern University in
Chicago.

1187
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:56,680
And that lie was given to us two
days after 911, and it became

1188
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:02,600
and remains the key theoretical
basis for NIST's column failure

1189
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:05,800
theory.
Not only did they use all that

1190
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:10,400
weight to crush the building,
they doubled it by a factor of 2

1191
01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:19,640
because it took the engineers 10
years to decode that paper, and

1192
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,120
that's what they found when they
did.

1193
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:28,840
And they reduced the column
strength below by a factor of 3.

1194
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:31,480
It's completely rigged in favor
of a collapse.

1195
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:37,000
And that's what engineers like
Tony Zambodi, Richard Johns and

1196
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:41,480
Gregory Zeutelinski, they tried
to publish their paper in the

1197
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:44,280
American Society of Civil
Engineers, Journal of

1198
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,600
Engineering Mechanics, the paper
that Zidanek Besant was

1199
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,760
published in, but they said we
won't publish it.

1200
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:52,200
Why?
It's out of scope.

1201
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:58,400
Wait a minute, how is it out of
scope to publish a challenge to

1202
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,160
a previously published paper in
that journal?

1203
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,800
That's what we do in peer
reviewed science.

1204
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,000
Well they didn't want any part
of it, so there are ethics

1205
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:14,240
violations and lawsuits in play
about that.

1206
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:18,920
Well, how would they have gotten
such materials like thermite,

1207
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:24,640
nano thermite and high energy
explosives into the building?

1208
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,840
Well, one way is under the guise
of a fire proofing upgrade,

1209
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:34,200
which they had in the nine
months, in the months and years

1210
01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:39,800
just before 9/11.
Coincidentally, some of those

1211
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:43,320
floors are the floors that got
hit by the planes.

1212
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,920
Very interesting.
Well, could they have had a

1213
01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:52,360
undercover operation saying that
they were applying liquid

1214
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:59,320
applied fire proofing because
nanothermite was liquid applied

1215
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:03,680
because of the dual layers, red
and Gray, That indicates that

1216
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:08,000
they were applied in two layers
with liquid.

1217
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:14,000
So there is liquid applied fire
proofing called intumescent

1218
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,360
paint.
So that's a possibility.

1219
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:20,080
We need more research.
Kevin Ryan of digwithin.net

1220
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,440
provided this initial research
to us.

1221
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:29,560
It's got to be dug into a lot
deeper and there's another

1222
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:35,520
possibility maybe both are true.
We have, if we had access to the

1223
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,720
core columns and beams in the
building, excuse me, through the

1224
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:42,160
elevators in the building, we
then have access to the core

1225
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:46,080
columns and beams in the
building which are immediately

1226
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:51,120
adjacent to them.
They would have to saw through

1227
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:56,280
lots of gypsum board, like 2
inches of gypsum board to get to

1228
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,800
those columns.
That would produce a lot of

1229
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,520
dust.
If you've ever done gypsum board

1230
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:06,000
work, you'd know what Scott
Forbes was complaining about.

1231
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,560
He was a senior database
administrator for Fiduciary

1232
01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:39,360
Trust, and here's his testimony.
Interesting.

1233
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,400
Well, this elevator
modernization is actually

1234
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:49,080
documented in Elevator World.
March of 2001, Ace Elevator got

1235
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,520
the contract with the Port
Authority, given one of the

1236
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,120
largest and most sophisticated
elevator elevator modernizations

1237
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:59,440
in the industry's history to a
small maintenance contractor

1238
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:04,200
like Ace Elevator with basically
1 customer, the World Trade

1239
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,960
Center complex.
Fascinating.

1240
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,640
They came out of nowhere to get
this contract from Otis

1241
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:13,480
Elevator, who had installed and
had been maintaining those

1242
01:30:13,480 --> 01:30:16,920
elevators for the life of this
building.

1243
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,480
Where were the Ace Elevator
contractors?

1244
01:30:21,480 --> 01:30:27,680
On the morning of 911, they were
pulled out to a meeting because

1245
01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:29,080
they were having a labor
dispute.

1246
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,120
So we're told they were pulled
out.

1247
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,560
They weren't there to help the
firefighters rescue the victims.

1248
01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:42,200
These are experts in the the
elevator cabs, of course, which

1249
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:46,120
are used sometimes to rescue
victims.

1250
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaking of which, what happened
to all the steel?

1251
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:54,360
We have the largest and most
perplexing structural failures

1252
01:30:54,360 --> 01:31:00,480
in history, but starting just
two weeks after 9/11, 400

1253
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:06,920
truckloads a day were carting
the steel away, 400 a day

1254
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:13,000
shipped to China for recycling.
This is the this is before

1255
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:15,680
investigators could get their
hands on it and do a proper

1256
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:19,440
forensic investigation.
This is the illegal destruction

1257
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:23,400
of evidence in a crime scene,
prompting Bill Manning, editor

1258
01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:27,920
in chief of Fire Engineering
magazine, to cry out crucial

1259
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,680
evidence that could answer many
questions is on the slow boat to

1260
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:35,280
China, showing an astounding
ignorance of government

1261
01:31:35,280 --> 01:31:38,320
officials to the value of a
thorough scientific

1262
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:41,840
investigation.
The destruction and removal of

1263
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:47,680
evidence must stop immediately.
But it didn't so in the World

1264
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:52,360
Trade Center towers with the
evidence of molten steel and

1265
01:31:52,360 --> 01:31:54,200
iron, which we talked about
already.

1266
01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:59,200
Thermite incendiaries.
We have 10 characteristic very

1267
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:03,320
uncharacteristic features, most
of them with the outward

1268
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:09,040
explosiveness of this demolition
compared to building 7A classic

1269
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:13,120
implosion.
Direct evidence of destruction

1270
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:18,040
with explosives fire can account
for any one of these, let alone

1271
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:20,960
all of them.
With additional circumstantial

1272
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:25,080
evidence, corroborative
testimony, this becomes proof of

1273
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:26,840
control demolition, a body of
proof.

1274
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:32,920
Let's convince 3600 architects
and engineers again who appear

1275
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:38,560
in our crime scene to courtroom
film series, which you can see

1276
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:43,040
the first four of a dozen
episodes, which we will, we're

1277
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:48,960
in the process of making now.
And we brought this evidence to

1278
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,280
Washington, DC on September
1011.

1279
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:59,800
And 12, we had a sitting senator
come and speak at a 9/11 truth

1280
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:05,320
conference, Senator Ron Johnson,
who not only came and spoke, but

1281
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:10,480
offered his platform to us.
And yes, we met with him, ten of

1282
01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:17,600
us that day before he spoke to
150 of us that evening.

1283
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:25,040
And we were in negotiation with
him about how to have this 911

1284
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:29,040
investigation in the Senate.
He is the chair of the Senate

1285
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:34,480
Permanent Committee, Permanent
Subcommittee on Investigations.

1286
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:38,480
They have subpoena power.
This is the most incredible

1287
01:33:38,480 --> 01:33:43,440
development in the history of
the 9/11 truth movement, and

1288
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,240
we're excited about pursuing
that.

1289
01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:54,680
But you already have one of the
best documentaries made on the

1290
01:33:54,680 --> 01:33:58,920
World Trade Center 9/11.
Explosive evidence experts Speak

1291
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:05,280
out and you have the 15 minute
mini documentary narrated by

1292
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:09,000
actor Ed Asner, World Trade
Center Building 7, Solving the

1293
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:13,840
Mystery.
You have an hour long film by

1294
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:18,920
Dylan Avery, maker of Loose
Change 9/11, documenting the

1295
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,240
history of Professor Leroy
Halsey at the University of

1296
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:27,000
Alaska about Building 7.
You can download the doc, the

1297
01:34:27,520 --> 01:34:30,840
brochure of which is an outline
of this evidence that we've been

1298
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:33,840
talking about today.
Print it, give it to every

1299
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,640
architect and engineer you can
find, everybody else that you

1300
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:40,600
know, because we've got to get
to the truth about 911 and we

1301
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:44,480
got to get it out there to
everybody for a variety of

1302
01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:53,160
reasons, including the fact that
we have.

1303
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,040
We are living in a surveillance
state.

1304
01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:59,080
As a result of the Patriot Act,
the Military Commissions Act,

1305
01:34:59,080 --> 01:35:02,200
the National Defense
Authorization Act of 2012, any

1306
01:35:02,200 --> 01:35:04,840
of us can be arrested without a
right to a lawyer, a trial, a

1307
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:08,720
jury.
We can be tortured and even

1308
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:13,320
assassinated.
All of our phone calls, our

1309
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:18,240
emails, our texts are
systematically swept up and

1310
01:35:18,240 --> 01:35:24,000
stored in the large building in
Utah for use against us later.

1311
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:31,640
No, the truth about 911 has to
be exposed because it is a 2 by

1312
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,280
4.
That'll knock people over the

1313
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,760
head.
And like it did me.

1314
01:35:36,240 --> 01:35:42,520
And they were in which during
which they will realize that

1315
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:48,120
we've been lied to on a colossal
scale and we can undo the $6.5

1316
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:53,120
trillion global War on Terror.
Well, we can expose it and stop

1317
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,440
it.
After all, where do you draw

1318
01:35:55,440 --> 01:35:57,120
your line?
In the sand?

1319
01:35:57,120 --> 01:36:00,280
Do you wait for the next 911?
No, don't stick your head in the

1320
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,960
sand.
Come out and speak the truth

1321
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,680
about 911.
Join Jeremy and Jeff.

1322
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:12,920
We have a need.
The world has need of us to

1323
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:15,360
speak this truth.
So send this podcast to

1324
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,840
everybody.
You know it's not too late.

1325
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:26,160
It's yes, it's been 24 years,
but by the 25th year, because of

1326
01:36:26,160 --> 01:36:35,960
the recent advances in 9/11
truth movement, including the

1327
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:40,200
five part documentary series
that Tucker has pulled out, put

1328
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:48,360
out there his new petition,
newcommissionnow.org.

1329
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:54,480
That is historic in the 9/11
truth movement because he spent

1330
01:36:54,600 --> 01:37:00,000
the first few years denying and
ridiculing the 9/11 truth

1331
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,640
community.
Now he's leading it.

1332
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,000
It's rather extraordinary
actually.

1333
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:08,320
Kurt Weldon, former Congressman
Dennis Kucinich, former

1334
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:13,360
Congressman, keynote features
speakers also at Turning the

1335
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:18,760
Tide in Washington, DC last last
month.

1336
01:37:19,200 --> 01:37:22,440
So yeah, join all of us.
It's not too late.

1337
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:25,560
That's what we needed to share
with everybody.

1338
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:33,680
Guys, how?
Did he just leave?

1339
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:46,640
I think so.
OK, well, I don't, I don't know

1340
01:37:46,640 --> 01:37:51,840
if he meant to just back out
like that, but wow, mind fucking

1341
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,760
blown.
Yeah.

1342
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:55,560
Holy shit.
Sorry about that.

1343
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:02,440
Hey, there he is.
I hit the wrong button and now

1344
01:38:02,440 --> 01:38:05,520
I'm frozen.
I'm going to unfreeze myself yet

1345
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:07,720
again.
I don't know why that's

1346
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,680
happening.
That's never happened before,

1347
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,880
actually.
It might be Riverside, man.

1348
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,920
We we've had on and off.
It's hit and miss with Riverside

1349
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,000
sometimes, you know.
Yeah.

1350
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:23,960
No, seriously, Richard,
Applause, man, that was that was

1351
01:38:23,960 --> 01:38:26,160
phenomenal.
Absolutely amazing.

1352
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,120
Wow.
Wow.

1353
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,280
Thank you.
Wow, that's pretty clear

1354
01:38:31,280 --> 01:38:34,240
information, isn't it?
I mean, you, you can't listen to

1355
01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:41,000
watch this without without going
OK, we need a new investigation.

1356
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:44,600
You got me on that one.
That was all perfectly

1357
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:48,720
articulated.
That was wow.

1358
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,400
Yeah.
I mean, like, you know, it, it

1359
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,120
answers a lot of questions, but
it brings up so many more

1360
01:38:55,120 --> 01:38:59,640
questions which we don't have 72
hours to sit here and go through

1361
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:00,760
all the questions, right?
Seriously.

1362
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:05,600
But I do have one question for
you, Richard, and that's do you

1363
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:10,920
ever worry about, you know,
being so public with pushing,

1364
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:12,960
you know, all of this out and
that kind of thing?

1365
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,160
Like is that?
Does that concern you at all?

1366
01:39:15,880 --> 01:39:23,680
Yeah, but the truth is that I've
never had a threat in 20 years,

1367
01:39:24,200 --> 01:39:30,200
so I'm not going to stop now.
And if I even if I get one, this

1368
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:34,800
is the the truth about 911 is a
lot more important than any

1369
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:39,600
anybody's life.
But I'm delighted that I haven't

1370
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,480
been killed yet.
Well, me too.

1371
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:44,840
Yeah, protect.
Protect.

1372
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,960
This man, everybody.
Yeah, maybe I'm protected.

1373
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,480
I mean, I do engage in a lot of
prayer.

1374
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:54,680
Well, good.
Very, very good.

1375
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:59,200
I my, I I can only tell one
story really.

1376
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,720
I I got into it one time when I
was in the service with a with a

1377
01:40:02,720 --> 01:40:09,000
a power plant mechanic.
And he was just kind of being

1378
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:10,560
really dumb about this whole
thing.

1379
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:15,400
You know, we were talking about
melting points.

1380
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:20,480
But even even that my my
argument was so little compared

1381
01:40:20,480 --> 01:40:25,400
to what you brought to us today.
I mean, his his his argument was

1382
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:30,800
that JP 5 right.
So back then we were, we were

1383
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:34,880
working off of the idea JP 5.
I mean, I ended up learning

1384
01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:38,960
throughout my time in, in the
Navy that JP 5 and and jet A and

1385
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,200
jet A1, which would have been
the fuel sources on these 760

1386
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:48,720
sevens is, is quite different.
But even then, you know, we

1387
01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:52,320
weren't we, he was arguing that
the, the, the temperature

1388
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:58,320
burning of these fuels were at
3300 to 4 thousand 4000°F.

1389
01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:02,320
And I was trying to explain it,
you know, you got to understand

1390
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:06,280
that that is your, the internal
combustion section of your, of

1391
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:10,920
your, your turboprop or turbo
engines, right?

1392
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:15,200
The ones that Rolls Royce made,
the ones that we were

1393
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:19,040
specifically working on.
And you know, just for anybody

1394
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:24,760
listening, the argument there
is, is null because this is an

1395
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,560
internal environment, right?
This is This is a system that

1396
01:41:27,560 --> 01:41:31,320
does 4 stages, suck, squeeze,
bang and blow.

1397
01:41:31,320 --> 01:41:33,840
You have your intake, your
compression, your combustion,

1398
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:38,280
and your exhaust section.
Without the first 3 sections of

1399
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:45,520
of this the the power plant or
the engine of an aircraft, you

1400
01:41:45,520 --> 01:41:49,240
don't have the environment
needed in order to get that high

1401
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:53,160
in temperature.
So the burn temp of an external

1402
01:41:53,800 --> 01:42:00,800
fire from Jet, Jet a Jet A1 or
even JP 5 is roughly I I think

1403
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:04,320
you had had it at like between
800, right?

1404
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,200
Was that was that about where
you had it at?

1405
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:13,720
600 is what the engineers and
the brokers list as the burning

1406
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:17,760
point and and some say it's
twice or three times that, but

1407
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,080
it doesn't matter.
We're still half the temperature

1408
01:42:20,480 --> 01:42:25,640
of the molten iron and steel
that we have evidence of.

1409
01:42:26,240 --> 01:42:30,000
Yeah, it's, I mean JP 5, just
going off of the values there,

1410
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:34,040
right, The internal or the
external burning temperatures of

1411
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:38,960
JP 5 is 1500 to 1850.
Now like you said, that's not

1412
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,000
even close.
Can't you definitely not getting

1413
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:45,080
molten steel out of that and
you're definitely not going to

1414
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:49,200
get the beating that that you
see from thermite and thermite.

1415
01:42:50,600 --> 01:42:55,720
It's just absolutely asinine.
Sorry that people would would

1416
01:42:56,000 --> 01:42:58,200
say, Oh yeah, it's because the
jet fuel.

1417
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,400
Come on man, you don't be so
close minded here.

1418
01:43:01,720 --> 01:43:04,800
You got you kind of really think
about this stuff and you don't

1419
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,960
need nothing to think that far.
So I'm, I'm curious, there's a

1420
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:11,160
chat question that came through
and I'm this is, I'm curious

1421
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:13,200
about this as well.
So I, I know that you're an

1422
01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,160
architect and like, you kind of
have like your lane with this,

1423
01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:18,960
that you're, that you stick to.
And I, and I understand also why

1424
01:43:18,960 --> 01:43:22,000
you would want to try to not
stray too far off into like

1425
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,800
crazy world because you know,
you have reputation and, and all

1426
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:27,120
these things that go along with
that.

1427
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:30,520
But the question that came
through is, have you ever

1428
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,480
commented on the predictive
programming surrounding this

1429
01:43:33,480 --> 01:43:35,360
event?
So, you know, like all the the

1430
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:40,240
weird stuff prior to 911 where
you had cartoons with the

1431
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,600
buildings getting hit by planes
or coming down, like just just

1432
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,600
so many examples of this.
Is this something that you've

1433
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,480
ever looked into or or
commented?

1434
01:43:47,480 --> 01:43:54,000
On quite a bit actually, and my
presentation on the parallels

1435
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:58,640
between 9/11 and COVID goes into
that quite a bit.

1436
01:43:58,680 --> 01:44:04,960
At the end of the presentation,
we examine The X-Files and how

1437
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:13,520
Hollywood has given us the meme
of a plane hitting the towers

1438
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,000
again and again and again and
again, actually.

1439
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:24,880
And that is you can find that.
Just search COVID under at the

1440
01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:31,680
website richardgage911.org.
Definitely going to do that.

1441
01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:34,200
Definitely going to go and and
check out all the stuff on

1442
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:36,960
there.
And my last question for you, I

1443
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:39,720
actually have another podcast,
the Shadow Band podcast.

1444
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,920
I think I actually have an
e-mail from from you or your Rep

1445
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,920
or whoever it is.
I would love to have you on that

1446
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,040
show as well.
Just like you said, the more we

1447
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:50,760
can spread this around would be
great.

1448
01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:54,560
So I'll definitely reach out to
you on there and hopefully we

1449
01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:56,320
can set that up one day.
Thanks.

1450
01:44:56,360 --> 01:45:00,320
Good, good.
Yeah, between between the two

1451
01:45:00,320 --> 01:45:04,280
shows you there's a there's a
lot of reach there and this

1452
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:08,080
stuff definitely deserves it.
Richard.

1453
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:11,680
We'll we'll we'll when this
episode comes out, it's going to

1454
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:16,920
come out.
Let's see the 20th next Monday.

1455
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:22,520
We will push there.
There'll be quite the effort

1456
01:45:22,520 --> 01:45:26,800
behind this to get this out.
Yeah, let's.

1457
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,400
Do I appreciate you, Richard?
I mean, not only the work you're

1458
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:32,760
doing, but you know, for coming
on and, and spending the time

1459
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:36,200
with us, you know, lonely
podcast nerds, you know, we're,

1460
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,640
we're grateful to have somebody
like you to come in and do this

1461
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:41,200
is pretty awesome.
Yay, that means a lot coming

1462
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:42,960
from another conspiracy
theorist.

1463
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:47,240
Well, there's a lot to be said
for sticking your neck out like

1464
01:45:47,240 --> 01:45:49,600
this that you know, this is a
lot here, man.

1465
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:52,720
This is a lot.
And you killed it.

1466
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,440
This is.
Well, we need to get this on

1467
01:45:54,440 --> 01:45:57,040
Tucker.
I mean, don't you think he's got

1468
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,120
this five part series?
He didn't even call us, right?

1469
01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:03,960
And, and, and yet this is the
evidence he needs to back

1470
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:05,800
himself up.
Absolutely.

1471
01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:10,480
And episode #4 which is coming
out next week of his five part

1472
01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:15,280
documentary, it is he, he talks
about the Halsey report, the

1473
01:46:15,280 --> 01:46:19,560
University of Alaska professor
Leroy Halsey, he talks about

1474
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:21,360
that.
He talks about the nano thermite

1475
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:25,720
peer reviewed paper by this team
of eight international

1476
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:32,000
scientists with red Gray chips
of nano thermite found in all

1477
01:46:32,000 --> 01:46:33,440
the World Trade Center dust
samples.

1478
01:46:34,120 --> 01:46:40,680
So why not, you know, you know,
go the extra mile and show the

1479
01:46:40,680 --> 01:46:44,600
physics of like and the the
detailed analysis like we've

1480
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:46,200
done today.
Come on, Tucker.

1481
01:46:46,480 --> 01:46:49,600
Come on, Joe Rogan, let's get on
the barrel all.

1482
01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:51,680
Right.
Call the call to action.

1483
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:55,400
Everybody send those emails.
Send those messages on, on

1484
01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:00,680
social media emails, whatever
you got to do, spread this

1485
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,160
episode around.
Let's get Richard's voice out

1486
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:07,240
there, get his organization out
there, get his videos out there.

1487
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:13,120
Amazing stuff.
richardgage911.org.

1488
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,720
Check it out, spread it, Do what
you have to do.

1489
01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:21,440
This word needs to spread.
Richard, is there anything else

1490
01:47:21,440 --> 01:47:23,720
that you'd like to put out
before we call it a night?

1491
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,320
No, that should do it.
Guys, get the word out.

1492
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:33,440
I'm I didn't come here just to
speak to you guys at home.

1493
01:47:34,520 --> 01:47:38,960
I came to speak to everybody,
you know, so how easy have we

1494
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:42,200
done it here with Jeff and
Jeremy and and me?

1495
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:46,320
This, this podcast has to go
everywhere.

1496
01:47:46,760 --> 01:47:52,440
What are you going to do when
your child or grandchild looks

1497
01:47:52,440 --> 01:47:57,280
up to you and says, daddy,
mommy, what did you do to stop

1498
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:02,280
the police state that we're
living in right now?

1499
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:10,560
Have a good answer for that
question and let your emotion,

1500
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:16,000
your, your, your conscience
guide you as to what to do.

1501
01:48:16,440 --> 01:48:20,040
But do something.
Absolutely, even if it's as

1502
01:48:20,040 --> 01:48:21,800
small as have a conversation
with somebody.

1503
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:23,800
Yeah.
That's it.

1504
01:48:24,040 --> 01:48:27,320
Bring it up.
All right, Richard.

1505
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:31,000
That was phenomenal, man.
That was amazing.

1506
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,360
Amazing, amazing, amazing.
I can't wait to get this out.

1507
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:44,320
Speechless.
All right, well, you you left me

1508
01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:45,800
without words, Richard.
You really did.

1509
01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,200
It's it's amazing.
And I I can't wait to check out

1510
01:48:49,200 --> 01:48:51,600
the rest of your stuff.
I'm I'm going to I'm going to

1511
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:53,320
get it all.
I'm going to go check it out.

1512
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:56,720
Can't wait.
All right, Jeff, you got

1513
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:00,160
anything to say before we go?
You're muted.

1514
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:06,200
They're still muted.
They're muted again.

1515
01:49:08,040 --> 01:49:10,520
No.
OK, all right, all right.

1516
01:49:10,520 --> 01:49:14,320
When are these?
Well, Richard, if you don't mind

1517
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:16,480
hanging back for just a few
minutes just so I can make sure

1518
01:49:16,480 --> 01:49:19,480
all your audio and video comes
on over to me.

1519
01:49:20,120 --> 01:49:23,840
But once we shut down the live
stream, it will have you out in

1520
01:49:23,840 --> 01:49:26,320
less than 5 minutes.
All right, all right, until

1521
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:28,680
until next time everybody.
This has been another episode of

1522
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,560
the Infant Rabbit Hole podcast.
I'm Jeremy, I'm your host.

1523
01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:33,880
Richard Gage was our guest
today.

1524
01:49:33,880 --> 01:49:36,440
Make sure you go check him out
richardgage911.org.

1525
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:39,600
He has phenomenal content as you
just saw today.

1526
01:49:39,640 --> 01:49:42,680
That is just the tip of the
iceberg for everything that he

1527
01:49:42,680 --> 01:49:45,560
has to present to you.
Check him out, support his

1528
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:49,160
stuff, talk about what he has
going on.

1529
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:53,040
Until next time, travelers,
we'll see you in the next fork

1530
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:54,800
in the path of the Infinite
Rabbit hole.

1531
01:49:55,080 --> 01:50:06,000
Bye everybody.
Hey everybody, thanks for

1532
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,160
checking out the Infinite Rabbit
Hole podcast.

1533
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:10,400
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1534
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,760
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1535
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:17,160
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1536
01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,240
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1537
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1538
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:25,360
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1539
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1540
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:32,200
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1541
01:50:32,240 --> 01:50:34,120
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