259. Jellyfish UAP, Face Peelers, & The Dead Internet

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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole.

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My name is Jeremy, and today
we're going to dive into the

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first of a new segment called
Declassified.

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Came up with that 1 today.
Declassified.

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That's right, man.
That's right.

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Oh man.
It's going to be these two

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people formats and it's going to
be all, all cool topics and and

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such.
It's going to be great.

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Great.
How you been, man?

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Today.
Terrible.

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Oh, you actually the same, Yeah.
I've had the double dragon all

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day.
And for those that never served

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in the Navy, would you like to
explain what that double dragon

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is?
Fire shooting out of both sides,

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I suppose that's right.
It's it's sort of a tradition in

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the Navy when you when you go on
a ship, you start your

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deployment, you kind of just you
kind of just get the the double

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dragon.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
Says Oh my Lord.

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Yep.
So yeah, I've been doing

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absolutely trash, but I haven't
been coughing.

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So I was like, all right, so
that's why I haven't been on any

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episodes.
It's because I've been sick.

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And so try not to be hacking and
coughing into the microphone.

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It's all good, man.
I figured out a way to do solo

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episodes and I've just been
knocking it out, coming out with

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an episode every two or three
days.

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My goal for this year is to put
out more content.

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There you go.
But I could tell you what's

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really pissing me off.
Glad to be back, Spectrum what's

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been?
Pissing off.

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What's really pissing me off is
when I put, you know, 10-12

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hours into a script between two
or three days and some dumb fuck

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on YouTube wants to leave a
comment about how my script is.

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AII fucking hate that shit.
Why would they say that?

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I have no idea, but like you
want sources?

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I'll give you sources.
I got you.

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It's easy, easy day.
Just ask.

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I mean I I've been doing this
for over 5 years.

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There's no AI going into my
script.

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OK, so knock that shit off.
Tell you what, doing this since

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longer than AI existed.
It's it's better than someone

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blasting you in the comments on
YouTube because you cut them off

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or you pass them while they were
driving slower than the speed

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limit because it was raining
out.

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So I mean, telling you that you
know how to drive and stuff.

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So I mean, I guess, you know,
you take you get some from no

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matter what you do, I suppose.
So just cry about it.

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It's amazing.
I was saying there's there's no

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way around it.
So you're just going to have to

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cry.
Well, I don't know what happened

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to that guy's comment because I,
I commented it back.

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I was like, hey, man, I got I
got sources if you want them.

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And then his comment
disappeared.

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I don't think he was, I don't
think he was ready for for a

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reply.
Yeah, I suppose not is what it

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is.
Anyways, so this is going to be

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very similar to the episodes
that we've been doing lately

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where we've been doing the
Fringe news declassified

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segments are going to be very
similar in format, but it's more

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two people friendly.
And instead of covering 5

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topics, we'll cover 3.
And we won't narrow down the

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topics to just news or current
events.

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We're going to talk about things
that I've already had research

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done on.
Jake texted me this morning and

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was like, hey man, you want to
do an episode today?

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And I was like, shit, let me see
what I can put together.

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So I grabbed 3 scripts from
three different topics that I've

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done research on in the last,
you know, five years or so that

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we just never got to here on
Infinite Rabbit Hole.

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I had something that was just
too short.

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No, they're not fucking AI.
And then one back on that first

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say one person specifically
goes, man, that intro was AI.

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And I'm like, man, I've been
doing intros for my episodes

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since day one.
You need to shut up.

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What dictates whether or not
just something is written by?

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AII have no idea.
I guess.

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Well, that would be my mention
to them.

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Maybe it sounds good.
It sounds good, so it can't be

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written by a person.
Actually, Whitney's been dealing

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with this for college, where her
teacher is going through a

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website that detects whether or
not something was written by AI,

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and she literally can't write a
paper that sounds like she wrote

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it.
She has to write it in a way

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that sounds like she's a
freaking high schooler or a

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middle schooler writing a
presentation.

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Otherwise AI or the the software
will say that it's 95% likely

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that it's AI.
Uh oh, Why are we frozen?

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Stop yelling at me, I'm
sensitive.

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Well, stop being sensitive.
No.

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All right, you ready to get into
my script for the night?

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Yeah, let's go.
All right, I've got a nice

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powerful intro to get everybody
hooked.

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We are living in an era of rapid
declassification, yet the

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picture of our reality remains
fragmented, obscured by a

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deliberate fog of war that spans
both the physical and the

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digital realms.
The maps we use to navigate our

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world are outdated.
We are clinging to a geography

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of the safe and the known, while
the world around us is being

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rewritten by forces we are only
just beginning to admit exist.

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Tonight, we are going to burn
the old maps.

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We're going to chart a course
through the prohibited airspace

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of active war zones where
anomalies mock our physics.

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Hack into the static of a dying
digital world where humanity is

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becoming the minority and trek
deep into the Peruvian Amazon

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where a modern day alien siege
has terrified an indigenous

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tribe into taking up arms.
We have three massive files to

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declassify tonight, and each one
peels back a layer of the

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illusion we call daily life.
We will start with the invisible

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Sentinels drifting over our most
secure military installations,

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Entities that defy gravity,
aerodynamics and thermodynamics.

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Then we are heading down to the
Laredo region of Peru to

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investigate the terrifying face
peeler attacks of 2023 where

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villagers fought back against 7
foot tall armored hovered

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entities that the government
absurdly tried to dismissed as

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illegal gold miners with jet
packs.

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And finally, we'll return to the
Black Mirror in your pocket to

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ask a question that haunts the
corridors of Silicon Valley.

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Is the human era of the Internet
over?

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And are we now just ghost
haunting a machine run by the

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dead?
But before we step off the ledge

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and descend a a vital
transmission for our fellow

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travelers, if you want to unlock
the files we cannot air on the

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main feed, the ones that dig too
deep for the algorithms to

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ignore, join us on
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This week, I released an

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exclusive unredacted deep dive
into the Havana Syndrome,

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including a new and improved
discovery, or new and important

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discovery regarding the source
of the illness and the

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infrasound that seems to be
causing it.

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The face peelers, the.
Face peelers, yes.

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There's no, there's no way that
you wrote that.

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That was definitely AI.
That was way too sophisticated.

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I wanted to make that joke.
I had no shit was going to was

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going to be like, all right, now
that my AI written intro is

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done, we can get to the real
stuff.

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Fucking hate that I I wrote
that.

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That sounds that sounds nuts.
The face peelers.

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All right, I'm down for you.
Let's go all.

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Right, let's do this.
All right, For our opening topic

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tonight, travellers, we are
turning our eyes back to the

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Middle East for a topic we have
covered before, but we're going

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to do it a little bit more in
depth.

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But we aren't looking for
insurgents, convoys, or

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geopolitical maneuvering.
We are looking for a ghost that

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haunted a United States joint
operations base in Iraq one

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night in October of 2018.
The footage is grainy, shot in

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the monochromatic Grays and
blacks of a high tech

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thermograph weapon system, like
an L3 Westcam sensor sweep, the

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kind used to target enemies from
miles away with surgical

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precision.
The video was leaked by

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investigative of investigative
filmmaker and ufologist Jeremy

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Corbell in January of 2024,
blowing the lid off a secret

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that intelligence agencies has
kept buried for six years.

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On the screen, drifting with a
terrifying stiff silence is an

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object that should not exist.
It does not have wings.

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It does not have a fuselage.
It does not have a tail rotor.

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It looks for all the world like
a jellyfish.

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This entity, now colloquially
known as Jellyfish UAP, floated

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over the base with dangling,
rigid tentacles.

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It did not sway in the wind.
It did not bank or turn like a

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biological creature or an
aircraft.

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Is is simply translated through
space, moving at a constant,

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deliberate speed, ignoring the
laws of aerodynamics.

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But the most chilling part
wasn't its shape, it was its

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thermal signature.
On thermal cameras, objects are

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usually defined by their heat.
An engine is hot, it glows black

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or white depending on the
polarity setting.

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Cold metal is the opposite.
This thing was shifting.

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As the intelligence officers
watched in disbelief, the entity

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changed its thermal
reflectivity.

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It went from black, indicating
heat, to white indicating

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extreme cold and back again.
It was as if the object was

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struggling to maintain its
presence and our layer of

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reality, phasing in and out of
the thermodynamics laws that

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govern our universe.
It was not just camouflage, it

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was rewriting its own physics in
real time.

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The leak footage tracks the
entity as it drifts over the

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perimeter fence, completely
ignoring the heavily armed

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soldiers and the dogs below who
seem oblivious to to its

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presence.
It drifts over the barracks, a

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silent observer.
It then descends toward a body

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of water presumed to be lake.
I'm going to butcher this haba

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habania habania and does the
impossible.

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Impossible.
If you drop a drone into a lake,

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it crashes.
If a bird dies, it splashes.

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This thing sliced into the water
without a ripple.

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It didn't float, it didn't sink.
It simply transitioned to

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mediums.
It remained submerged for 17

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minutes, then just as abruptly
shot out of the water at a 45°

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angle, accelerating into the sky
at speeds that defy our

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understanding of propulsion.
No Sonic boom, no water

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displacement, no heat exhaust.
Just a silent phantom leaving

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the stage.
This was not a one off event.

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Michael Sieptia, a former United
States Marine intelligence

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analyst, has come forward to
state that these atmospheric

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biologicals, quote UN quote, are
being seen everywhere.

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They have been spotted over
Afghanistan.

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They have been seen near nuclear
silos.

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They look organic, like deep sea
creatures swimming through the

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ocean of an air above our heads.
The skeptics and the debunkers

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who are desperate to keep the
world small and understandable

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screamed bird poop on the lens
or smudge.

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But you do not track a smudge on
a multimillion dollar weapon

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system.
You do not watch a smudge change

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temperature.
You do not watch a smudge or

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piece of bird shit submerge into
a lake and fly out at Mach

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speed.
This footage forces us to

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confront a possibility that is
for stranger than little green

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men in metal saucers.
What if the sky is not empty?

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What if it is an ecosystem and
what if the things living in it

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are finally starting to look
back at us?

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This raises disturbing questions
about the national security,

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about national security.
If a jellyfish like entity can

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drift over a secure base,
invisible to the naked eye and

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only visible on thermal, what
else is floating above?

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Our heads right now are being
watched by a by a biology that

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exists in a spectrum of light
that we cannot see.

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What do you think there, Jacob?
I remember that.

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I remember seeing that and
that's exactly what I thought

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was it was bird crap on the lens
at 1st.

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And you know what it really
looked to me like was, was it

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Battle LA, the movie where they
had those like flying machines

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and stuff like that?
It was like a weird alien thing.

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Maybe that was maybe they kind
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I can't recall when that movie
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jellyfish UAP was seen.
But regardless, I'm starting to

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learn more towards that.
It's just like in the realm of

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like the flying rods or the
skyfish that it's like they say

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the air acts like water.
Like what if it's what if we

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can't get out of the atmosphere?
Like NASA's completely full of

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crap.
Just entertain it for a second.

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NASA's completely full of crap.
We.

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Can't.
Actually, yeah, we can't

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actually get past the was it the
Van Allen radiation belt

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something or another?
Yeah, look at you.

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Good boy.
Yeah.

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Proud of you.
I'd listen to things and we, I

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heard Joe Rogan go on a spiel
about this for like 2 hours

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straight.
Yeah, but let's see, where was I

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going with that anyway?
So NASA's making it up.

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What if there is a layer of
water or something that sits

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over the earth that we can't
penetrate, and there's an

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ecosystem full of what we would
consider flying things, but

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there's actually swimming?
Or that there are other types of

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flying creatures, I guess, that
go through the air but never

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touched ground, like the rods.
Yeah.

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And they're just so uncommon and
so elusive that there's really

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no way to actually study them
until one of them, like, flies

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through a camera somewhere.
And that's kind of the the

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picture I was painting here too,
right?

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I want to take a second to kind
of educate people on a brilliant

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book that was written a long
time ago by a brilliant

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biologist turned cryptozoologist
named Ivan T Sanderson.

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Now it's called Uninvited
Visitors, and this book was

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written in 1967.
And the whole concept of this

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book is a biologist looking at
UFOs and what's modernly

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referred to as sky beasts, which
is the concept that you're

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basically talking about rods,
right?

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There's even a a big argument by
a lot of people that the

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standard flying saucer or light
in the sky could be one of these

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biological entities.
And we saw Hollywood kind of

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take that in stride with the
with the movie that got released

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a few years ago by Jordan Peele.
Nope.

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Yeah.
And which I do when I love that

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movie like I was so.
Scary.

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I love that movie.
That movie is great.

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Yes, I've seen a movie and I
love that he he made it a

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biological entity.
Sorry if I spoiled that for

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anybody, but if you're a fan of
UFOs and you like the idea that

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UFOs can be biological in any
way, shape or form, go check out

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Nope.
Great movie, literally I don't

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watch movies.
In case you're new to the

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Infinite Rival.
I just don't.

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But I saw that one and I've seen
it like 4 Times Now because it's

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that good.
I really do enjoy it.

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So I do have a discussion point
to talk about.

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Basically this takes the form of
the questions that we were doing

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last time, Jake.
So the jellyfish video seems to

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bridge the gap between the nuts
and bolts craft in something

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more paranormal or
interdimensional.

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It looks organic, yet it moves
with robotic precision.

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Do you think we are dealing with
a biological entity native to

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our atmosphere, basically a
Cryptid of the sky?

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Or is this advanced surveillance
technology disguised as organic

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matter?
And secondly, why does the

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temperature fluctuation matter
so much in these sightings?

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Well, geez, it could be both.
I mean, the Sky's the limit as

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far as possibilities is for what
can exist on this planet because

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we have plenty of very strange
animals that shouldn't be.

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And yet they are, right?
Or they have unique

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characteristics.
Like our hangar Bay at work here

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in the summer months gets just
inundated with bats.

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You know, they land all over the
ground and all that sort of

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stuff.
Well, it's not that bad, but

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they'll land every once in a
while.

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And I'm sitting here, I'm
looking at this bat and I like,

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like, I want to pick it up.
But it was pretty feisty and

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like, move it because it was
literally just, it was between

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the slab of the concrete outside
and the metal wall of the hangar

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Bay.
And it was just stuck in this

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little crack.
And I kind of wanted to get up

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in there and like, pull it out
and, and move it because it's

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like, this thing's going to die
right here, right?

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And I could hear it clicking at
me.

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It's like, and I was like, what
is this crackling click sound?

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And then I Googled it and I was
like, oh, that's the

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echolocation.
It sounds so weird, right?

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And it's very strange that they
would have this, you know, I

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don't know what you want to call
it evolutionary sort of

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adaptation or whatever it is,
but or, you know, on my side

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that God made them that way.
But regardless, it's so strange

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that they fly around and they
just pop and it just echoes off

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of everything, right?
And so I mean, if you can have

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something that's as common as a
bat that has such a very strange

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way of, of navigation, why
couldn't you then take other

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things like flying rods or was a
skyfish and just give them a

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unique characteristic like they
don't land or, you know, or you,

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we haven't ever observed them
land or, you know, why couldn't

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there be a type of animal that
can change the heat that it's

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giving off?
And then on the other side,

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sure, maybe it's an advanced
biomechanical form of

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surveillance.
Cause again, Sky's the limit.

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Who knows what's being developed
right now, right?

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And that.
I think it's kind of crappy to

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kind of be in that, in that
realm of like, who knows, you

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know, Oh well, but it's like,
because I would want to know one

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way or the other because it's
interesting, right?

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And then if it's the latter
where it's a piece of tech, then

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we're likely never going to get
the answers for that.

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If it was the former of a
creature, well there's been 1

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recorded so that we know of, so
still probably not going to get

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the answers to that too.
Well, I'm curious if the heat

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signature changes and
fluctuations has to do with

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active cloaking.
That's I went more here, I'll

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read off what I my thoughts on
this is this is the part I

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actually had to write up today.
This is where the rubber meets

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the road, folks.
We have to stop thinking about

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this in terms of Star Wars
technology.

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Battle ships with rivets and
thrusters.

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The jellyfish UAP pushes us
toward the interdimensional

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hypothesis.
If you look at the work of

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researchers like Jacques Valet,
he has argued for decades that

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these phenomena are not
travelers from another planet,

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but entities that coexist with
us in a reality that overlays

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our own.
The temperature fluctuation is

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the smoking gun for this theory.
When an object moves between

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dimensions or density layers, it
requires a massive exchange of

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energy and physics.
We know that energy exchange

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often manifests as heat
transfer.

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The fact that this entity is
shifting from hot to cold

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suggests it is not just cloaking
itself from a camera, it is

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phase shifting its vibrational
frequency.

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It is literally tuning itself
out of our reality and into

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another.
It appears cold because it is

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absorbing heat from our
environment to powerless transit

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transition, or hot as it bleeds
energy back into our space.

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It is not a machine
malfunctioning, it is a door

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opening and closing.
Furthermore, the biological

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appearance supports the idea of
non human intelligence that

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isn't necessarily technological.
In a way we understand it.

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We assume aliens build ships
because we build ships.

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But what if a civilization or a
life form evolved a billion

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years ahead of us?
They wouldn't build a Volvo to

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drive to earth.
They would engineer biological

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avatars or projector
consciousness into a semi

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physical form.
This jellyfish might be a drone,

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yes, but a drone made of
engineered biological matter

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meet and energy designed to
interact with our atmosphere

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without leaving a carbon
footprint or a crash retrieval

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site.
It is the ultimate stealth

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because it looks like nature.
Even if even if it is a nature

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we do not recognize.
So I went, I went the

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interdimensional route or the
possible avatar being used by an

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alien technology, whether it be
from far away off in space,

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which I feel like is the more
unlikely of the two options, or

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an interdimensional
intelligence, something that

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we've talked about heavily
recently in the show over the

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last couple episodes.
What are your thoughts on that?

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I don't think that a Cyborg I
guess would be out of the realm

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of possibilities of something
that could be used

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experimentally to actively
surveil stuff or as a weapon.

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I'm trying to rack my brain as
far as like what I've heard of

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in the past, and the only thing
that can come to mind is, well,

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obviously that birds are
government drones.

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But I mean, everyone knows that.
Not the country birds, the city

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birds, right?
But aside from that, I mean,

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there's some weird stuff going
on in the world, like making

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meat out of basically 3D
printing meat.

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If that's going on, I don't know
if it would be too crazy for the

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idea that science scientists are
experimenting with taking actual

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animals or bits and pieces of
animals and connecting them

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with, you know, some sort of a
robotic nature in order to make

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a better, more effective weapon
system or surveillance

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technology.
Although I do agree with you,

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obviously, we've talked about it
ad nauseam about, you know, when

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I say angels, demons, things
like that.

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You could definitely say on a
different plane of existence

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that parallels ours, that's just
not visible to us, you know,

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unless the veil is opened or
whatever that looks like right,

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under unique circumstances or I
don't know, a gateway.

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So I don't know.
Well, I guess I just want to

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give a shit.
I guess that if I were to put

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myself in a in a boat and say
which one would be more

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worrisome, it would be the
interdimensional beings coming

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through versus something you
could, you know, shoot down with

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a missile, you know?
Yeah, it's AI feel like that's

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in my opinion, right.
I've gone on record multiple

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times talking about how I I feel
like the interdimensional aspect

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of things would probably be the
more likely.

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Sorry, I'm kind of sidetracked
here.

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I'm, I'm making edits to my next
script here as as I'm talking,

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but let's go ahead and put this
it's topic to bed.

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I just want to give one more
shout out to the book Uninvited

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Visitors by Ivan T Sanderson.
It's very difficult to find now,

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but if you can, I highly
recommend it.

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Ivan T Sanderson, like I said,
was a biologist turned

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cryptozoologist that looked at
UF OS as if they were biological

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beings.
Highly recommend it.

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And then I want to give a shout
out to, I can't see the full

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name, but I can see Jimmy.
Jimmy on YouTube said you guys

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don't get anywhere near the Subs
or views that the quality of

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that, the quality of your
research and content deserves.

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Guys, keep on trucking.
Hey, I appreciate that, Jimmy,

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really do.
Appreciate that too.

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That's super trust me.
The the amount of money, time

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and divorce threats I've had for
my wife over over all this, it

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means a lot to hear that.
I appreciate it.

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Jake ready ready to hear about
the case dealers.

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I found that book.
Yeah, right.

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I found that book on Amazon.
You can actually buy it, either

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paperback or hardcover.
Hardcovers, 3994.

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You found uninvited visitors.
Yeah, so I'm.

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I'm going to buy it because it
sounds interesting to me.

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Sounds pretty much right up my
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Oh, it is, it is.

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Apparently they sell kegs of it

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They do the little mini cakes,

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they're cool.
Yeah, all.

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Right.
You ready?

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Yeah.
All right.

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For our second topic, we are
leaving the arid deserts of the

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Middle East and hacking our way
through the dense, humid jungle

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of the Peruvian Amazon.
In the summer of 2023, something

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landed in the Laredo region,
terrorizing the Ikitu indigenous

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people in the remote village of
San Antonio DE.

453
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,200
I'm going to butcher this
Pintuyaku.

454
00:28:03,120 --> 00:28:07,000
This story sounds like it was
ripped from a 1950s pulp sci-fi

455
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,400
novel, but the fear in the
voices of the witnesses were

456
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,240
very, very real.
It started in late July of 2023.

457
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,480
Villagers began reporting
strange yellow eyed figures

458
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,600
lurking in the dark canopy.
These were not Jaguars.

459
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,280
These were not rival tribes.
OK, it's going to be full of

460
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:31,560
things.
I'm going to butcher Hiro Ryati.

461
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:39,720
Divala Heyro Reyati Divola, the
community leader of the Ikidu

462
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,560
people, went on record with
frantic pleas to the Peruvian

463
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,600
military.
He described entities that stood

464
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,680
7 feet tall.
They had large, bulbous heads,

465
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,480
which the logos described as
long heads, and wore what looked

466
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,040
like silver armored suits.
But the most terrifying detail?

467
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,480
They hovered.
Davila claimed their shoes are

468
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,800
round shaped, which they used to
float.

469
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,520
He described them hovering about
1m off the ground, moving with a

470
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,880
silence that unnerved the
hunters who know every sound of

471
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320
the rainforest.
The attacks were brutal and

472
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,600
direct.
On the night of July 11th, a 15

473
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,320
year old girl was reportedly
grabbed from behind by one of

474
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,600
these figures.
The entity slashed her neck,

475
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,080
leaving deep cuts, presumably
attempting to drag her away.

476
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,400
Villagers rushed to her aid,
screaming and firing weapons.

477
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,880
The attacker did not run, it
ascended vertically and vanished

478
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,240
into the canopy.
The girl survived, but the

479
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,520
trauma sent shock waves through
the community.

480
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,280
The Ikidu people are not easily
scared.

481
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,040
They are skilled hunters.
They know the jungle better than

482
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,720
anyone on Earth.
De Via stated clearly quote.

483
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,120
I shot one of them twice and he
didn't fall.

484
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,040
He rose up and disappeared.
We are frightened.

485
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,720
The shotgun pellets reportedly
struck the silver armor with a

486
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,200
metallic clang, but did
absolutely no damage to the

487
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,400
entity inside.
The panic was absolute.

488
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,840
The villagers called them Los
Pelacaras, the face peelers,

489
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,840
referring to an old Andean
legend of white men who wander

490
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,280
the remote regions to steal the
faces and fat of the indigenous

491
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,120
people.
They demand, they demanded help.

492
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,080
The Peruvian Navy and National
Police were deployed to the

493
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,680
region, but their official
explanation only deep in the

494
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,120
mystery and insulted the
intelligence of everyone paying

495
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,040
attention.
The official government

496
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,400
statement.
They claimed that these were not

497
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,000
aliens.
They claimed that these were

498
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,080
illegal gold miners from
criminal syndicates.

499
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,360
Specifically pointing fingers at
the groups like Primero Commando

500
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,840
de Capitale from Brazil.
The government claimed these

501
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,320
miners were using jetpacks to
fly through the jungle and scare

502
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,440
the locals away from rich gold
deposits.

503
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,080
Let us pause and think about
that for a second.

504
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,960
Jetpacks, a commercial jetpack
like the ones made by Gravity

505
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,320
Industries cost roughly
$400,000.

506
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,480
It sounds like a jetpack engine
screaming at 100 and or jet

507
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,840
engine screaming at 130 decibels
louder than a rocket rock

508
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,600
concert.
It has a flight time of maybe 5

509
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,920
to 10 minutes before it runs out
of fuel.

510
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,040
It is incredibly difficult to
fly, required months of

511
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,720
training.
Yet the Peruvian government

512
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,360
wants us to believe that the
illegal miners were flying these

513
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,840
multi $1,000,000 deafening loud
machines through the dense,

514
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,680
tangled Amazon canopy at night.
That they were hovering.

515
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,480
Hovering silently.
Remember, the villagers said

516
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,960
they were silent and taking
shotgun blasts to the chest

517
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,120
without flinching the lid.
The logistics are impossible.

518
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,520
You cannot sneak up on someone
wearing a jetpack.

519
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,520
It screams.
You cannot fly a jetpack to the

520
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,200
trees at night without killing
yourself.

521
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,160
The explanation was a desperate
attempt to put a lid on high

522
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,440
strangeness events.
The villagers know what a drone

523
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,520
sounds like.
They know what a miner looks

524
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,160
like, they insisted.
These beings have long heads and

525
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,160
eyes that glowed red or yellow.
This was not a mining operation.

526
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,960
This was a siege.
Whether it was a test of

527
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,240
advanced military exoskeleton
technology, perhaps a black

528
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,680
budget gravity displacement
suit, or a genuine visitation of

529
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,400
non human intelligence, the
events in Laredo remained one of

530
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,280
the most disturbing close
encounter cases of the modern

531
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,360
era.
It represents a direct conflict

532
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,960
between humans and a superior
technology and one of the most

533
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,600
remote places on earth.
So let me just get to the

534
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,720
discussion point here Jake,
before I release you on it.

535
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,400
Man, the quote on quote illegal
miners with jetpacks explanation

536
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,760
feels like the swamp gas of the
24.

537
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,640
It does not hold up to scrutiny
regarding the noise and fuel

538
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,720
limitations of current jetpack
tech.

539
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,720
Do you think this was a
psychological operation?

540
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,680
A SIOP if you will, to clear the
land for resources utilizing

541
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480
holographic technology like
maybe Project Bluebeam?

542
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,480
Or did the Ikidu actually
encounter a species of non human

543
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,640
intelligence?
Did we not do an episode on

544
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,920
this?
This sounds very familiar.

545
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,760
No, I don't know where you would
have gotten something like that

546
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,800
from.
Like the talking points too of

547
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,360
like.
We talk about holographic

548
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,080
technology and Project Bluebeam
a lot.

549
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:25,720
I would say if I was to choose
something that came even close

550
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,120
to this and the topic that we
did, it would be the Kelly

551
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,160
Greenman.
But.

552
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,920
No, I definitely talked about
this at one point or it came up

553
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,680
in conversation.
It, it definitely could have

554
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,600
come up in conversation because
when it did, when he hit the

555
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,600
news, I got really excited about
it.

556
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,920
And that's when I wrote this up
like almost 2 full years ago, I

557
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,600
had this script written and we
just never covered it because I

558
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,320
didn't have enough to do a full
episode on, right.

559
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,280
I was waiting to try to come up
with maybe other like stories

560
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,160
that are similar to this that I
can bundle it with.

561
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,240
I mean, it's a, it's an
interesting story and.

562
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,720
For sure.
I don't.

563
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,560
I don't doubt for a second that
I did end up bringing it up at

564
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,239
some point, but I don't I would
I doubt I even went into any

565
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,440
detail in it.
I'm definitely buying one of

566
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,880
these jet packs.
I pulled up that that company

567
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,760
gravity freeze.
Oh dude, yeah, it's funny.

568
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:24,880
I've seen, I saw a a guy some
service member I don't know what

569
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,520
he was, but in the United States
military, but boarding a ship

570
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,320
from another ship using one of
these and they were testing out

571
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,960
to see if.
It was the British, British

572
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,360
Navy.
Was it the British?

573
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,239
Oh, yeah.
So it wasn't the United States,

574
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,120
but.
No.

575
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,040
It's trying to see like if they
could use this for shipboard

576
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,040
pirate fighting.
I think it was something like

577
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:49,760
that.
But yeah, it was it was pretty,

578
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,520
pretty dope.
I remember seeing.

579
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,520
It if you got the website up,
bring it up man.

580
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,440
Let everybody see it.
OK, well I'll pull it up on the

581
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,880
on the computer.
Yeah, man.

582
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,080
While I'm here.
You want me to get into my

583
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,960
thoughts while you're bringing
it up?

584
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:09,160
Yeah, you, you do, you do thing.
The minor theory is insulting.

585
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,800
Is gaslighting plain simple?
If you have ever heard a jet

586
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,320
turbine, you know you don't
sneak up on anyone while you're

587
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,440
wearing it.
The key detail here is silence.

588
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Silence implies anti gravity or
some form of field propulsion we

589
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,120
do not supposedly have.
I think we're looking at a

590
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,240
classic high Strange's flap,
similar to the Chlorus flap in

591
00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:33,160
Brazil in the 1970s where UFOs
fired beams at people.

592
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,240
But there is a darker angle
here.

593
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,960
Look at the location.
The Amazon is a resource haven,

594
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,560
but it is also a blind spot.
If a global power, say the US,

595
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,880
China or breakaway civilization
wanted to test a new tactical

596
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,600
armor or gravity displacement
suit, who better to test it on

597
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,320
than in isolated tribe with no
cameras and no Internet?

598
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,360
However, the long heads
description pushes me back to

599
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,880
the alien side.
It sounds exactly like the

600
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,680
manted beings reported an
abduction lore.

601
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,000
Maybe they were miners, just not
from Brazil.

602
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,360
Maybe they were mining genetic
material.

603
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,200
The face peeler legend is about
harvesting humans.

604
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,760
If these entities were
impervious to bullets and could

605
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,200
fly, they weren't worried about
gold.

606
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,280
They were there for something
else.

607
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,000
And the fact that the military
shut down the story so fast

608
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,840
tells me they know exactly what
it was in those woods.

609
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,800
Bro you can get training on
these things for only 8500

610
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,920
bucks.
I am 100% that's it.

611
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,960
Yes, look at this.
You going to fly to my house?

612
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,040
Yeah, you know, I'm going to.
I'm going to fly to your house

613
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,760
and you're like, oh, can I try?
And I'm like, Nope.

614
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,960
And I'm going to fly away.
I would not get on that dude.

615
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,080
I don't even like roller
coasters.

616
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Oh man, I what if it like blows
up, takes your arms off at the

617
00:36:54,600 --> 00:37:00,680
shoulder?
Oh, that's.

618
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,920
Yeah, I'm totally going to buy
myself one of these things.

619
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,440
That's pretty dope.
How much are they going for now?

620
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,960
Because I I wrote this, like I
said, I wrote this up two years

621
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,080
ago.
Does it say?

622
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,560
I'm not seeing a price you can
testify one for under 2 grand

623
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,400
though.
That's pretty cool.

624
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:34,120
Well, then I I was going to work
on my beater of a car that I

625
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,160
have and spend a bunch of money
on that, but instead I'm going

626
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:43,760
to test fly a jet pack.
So that's cool.

627
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,840
Let.
Me just strap some turbine

628
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,840
engines onto my wrists.
Dude, it's go from airplane

629
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,640
mechanics.
The next logical step is either

630
00:37:52,640 --> 00:38:00,520
a pilot's or a jetpack pilot.
I mean, it's ever since, ever

631
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,840
since I, I got to witness jets
going into full AB, I've always

632
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,800
dreamt of having those things
strapped to my arms, you know?

633
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,360
That so my answer there.
I think maybe that's what you're

634
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,120
thinking about, because we have
talked about the island of

635
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,560
Calories in Brazil quite a bit.
Not necessarily.

636
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,480
Calories wasn't riddled with
beans, right?

637
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,600
Entities really wasn't, didn't
play a big picture, although

638
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960
there were some reports of
entities.

639
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,560
It was mostly lights, like in
calories we were seeing, or they

640
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,000
saw a lot of red, yellow lights.
And then they did this strange

641
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,920
phenomenon where when they got
close to somebody, they turned

642
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,760
blue all of a sudden and they
caused radiation damage to them.

643
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,160
Yeah, a lot of people.
There are some people that lost

644
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,880
their lives in calories too.
Jacques was Jacques Valet.

645
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Jacques Valet actually wrote, I
don't know if he's the one that

646
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:54,920
wrote the.
There's one book that was

647
00:38:54,920 --> 00:39:00,160
written on this, on calories and
it's like it's called UFO Danger

648
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,960
or something.
I don't think it was written by

649
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Jacques Valet, but Jacques Valet
talks about it a lot in a lot of

650
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,120
his other books.
I think it's in Passport to

651
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:13,680
Magnolia is the book that he
talks about it and I'm Jake talk

652
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,000
a little little bit.
Yeah, I agree with you.

653
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,440
I think it's 100% gas lighting
to see people with jet packs and

654
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,680
stuff.
It's it definitely sounds like

655
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:30,880
there's some kind of a psyop
going on or an attempt to rid

656
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,880
these or push these people away
from where they live for some

657
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,600
reason, probably for a resource
grab or whatever it is.

658
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,560
I am far from believing it was
an interdimensional being or

659
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,920
some sort of an alien attack or
something like that.

660
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,240
And way more into that
government suck and we'll do

661
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:52,800
terrible things to their people
just because they can.

662
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,680
So here's the book.
It's called UFO Danger Zone.

663
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,280
It has a forward written by
Doctor the Jacques Valet, and as

664
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,520
you can see, that is currently
going for $72.

665
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,520
Yeah, I don't have this book
yet.

666
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,480
That's why I've never really.
That's why I never really

667
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:18,040
officially covered the Caloris
incident.

668
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,600
I do want I will buy this book
eventually.

669
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,480
In fact, I might just.
Snag it tonight because I would

670
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,560
like to cover it at some point.
But I have referenced Colora's

671
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,720
quite a bit and a lot of past
stories, especially like when we

672
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:42,680
talk about Elmwood, right, with
the blue light with Officer

673
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:48,520
George Wheeler when he passed
away because of his his contact

674
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,680
with that blue light on top of
the the quarry, right?

675
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,240
One of the things that came to
my mind immediately when I first

676
00:40:56,240 --> 00:40:58,280
read that was the Island of
Calories.

677
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,360
So I probably talked about it
during that episode then.

678
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:10,800
Or or you save up 27 more of
those $72 and you fly a jetpack.

679
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,720
No.
I like what he said.

680
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:20,680
I'm sorry but when jet pack is
wild, a gang of jet packs is

681
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,440
sci-fi.
We should all get together and

682
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,680
fly jet packs into Papua New
Guinea and meet some untouched

683
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,280
tribes and get worshipped like
gods.

684
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,320
We we should get them and then
go to UFO days and show up at

685
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,000
that, that sky watch at the end
of the Saturday that's.

686
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,960
Why everyone drunk and high just
blitzed out of their minds and

687
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,600
fly over the town and they lose
it?

688
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,920
Yeah.
So this, this book by Jacques

689
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,400
Valet, I have it back here.
It's called Passport to Magonia.

690
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,560
That Shrek?
No, no, it's just it's got

691
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,640
another eye.
It looks like Shrek, but it's

692
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:06,520
got an eye on Shrek.
So it's kind of ugly trick, but

693
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,840
Jacques Valet.
I know I'm pushing a lot of

694
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,520
books right now, but this guy is
amazing.

695
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,480
The Invisible College is
literally one of the best books

696
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,880
I've ever read.
Messengers of Deception is a

697
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,560
great book.
Dimensions.

698
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,000
I don't have this book yet, but
it's also phenomenal.

699
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,000
I've read it.
I have the digital version

700
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Confrontations.
I also have the digital version

701
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,640
of just.
If you're ain't getting into

702
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,600
UFOs, Ufology, whatever, you
need to read the works by

703
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,520
Jacques Valet.
Oh, he he, he writes, he wrote

704
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,520
the the edge of reality.
Yes, yes, he.

705
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,480
Did.
I've never read it, I just saw

706
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,480
it on the thing.
Let's say that's not even like a

707
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,320
popular book.
Like where the hell?

708
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,600
How'd you know that?
It's not on the list.

709
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,840
It's like only 10 people have
ever ridden read that book.

710
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,280
Like that, it's kind of weird.
That's the weird one to call out

711
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,080
for that.
But anyways, you get you ready

712
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,760
for the third topic.
Do you have anything else that

713
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,280
you want to talk about face
peeler wise?

714
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,840
I mean, the story is crazy, but
yeah, I think it's just it was

715
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,880
their government just being
crappy and then trying to

716
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,000
gaslight everyone, be like, no,
no, no, no.

717
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:24,640
We we would never attack people
for no reason to steal their

718
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,680
their resources that are under
their feet.

719
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:27,800
What?
That's crazy.

720
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,480
It was the jetpack people.
Come on, it was the IT was the

721
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,680
damn Brazilians.
Yeah, it's completely.

722
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,160
There's no way.
Yeah, we get reports of them

723
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,520
coming over the border all the
time.

724
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,280
Yeah, yeah, it's flying right
over us.

725
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,400
The jetpack people.
We try throwing our rocks at

726
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,040
them, but that's fucked up.
I can't say that.

727
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,360
All right.
All right.

728
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,360
You ready for the third topic,
man?

729
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Yes, Sir, all.
Right.

730
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,520
And for our third and final
topic for tonight, we are

731
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,080
calling the dead Internet in the
AI necromancy.

732
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,640
This is this is obviously a
topic that we have talked about

733
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,120
before.
We talked about this with Jeff,

734
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,000
but I never went over my script
with it.

735
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,480
We just kind of talked about it.
Free flowing.

736
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,440
Never really dove into the
actual details of the dead

737
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,400
Internet theory.
You know, this is what I had.

738
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,760
This is not about monsters in
the woods or in the sky.

739
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,760
This is about the monster in
your pocket.

740
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,680
It is about the screen you are
staring at right now.

741
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,320
Have you noticed it?
The feeling that the Internet

742
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:32,120
has become empty.
You scroll through Twitter now X

743
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,920
or Facebook and the comments
feel repetitive.

744
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:41,160
The syntax is slightly off.
The memes are bizarre, surreal

745
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,720
ammo grant games of shrimp Jesus
or melting faces that thousands

746
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:47,960
of people are liking and
sharing.

747
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,760
You post a thought and the
engagement you get feels hollow,

748
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,480
like an echo returning from a
Canyon that goes on forever.

749
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,400
This is the dead Internet
theory.

750
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:03,000
The theory that posits that
sometime around 2016 or 2017 the

751
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:07,080
human Internet died.
The organic chaos of real people

752
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,240
arguing creating and connecting
was replaced by sterile

753
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,280
algorithmic loop of bots talking
to bots.

754
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,240
According to recent
cybersecurity reports, from 2025

755
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:23,800
/ 47 to 50% of all web traffic
is now non human.

756
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,680
But it goes deeper than just
traffic.

757
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,840
It is about content creation.
With the explosion of large

758
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:37,160
language models, or LLMS, and
generative AI, we are seeing the

759
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,560
rise of the zombie web.
AI agents are now generating

760
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,240
articles, writing code, creating
videos, and obviously scripts

761
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,200
for an infinite rabbit hole.
That's a joke.

762
00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:48,600
That's that didn't actually
happen.

763
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,480
And then other AI agents are
reading, watching and commenting

764
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,880
on them.
It is closed loop.

765
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,000
It is a closed loop of
artificial hallucination.

766
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,960
Humans are just the specters or
spectators wandering through a

767
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,880
digital ghost town that looks
bustling but is actually

768
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,520
completely devoid of life.
Consider the inversion of

769
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,960
reality.
You go to a recipe blog and the

770
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,600
recipe was written by an AI.
The photo was generated by mid

771
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,160
journey and the comments
praising it are bots farming for

772
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,200
clicks.
You're the only real soul in the

773
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,840
interaction.
But the ride that hole goes

774
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,360
darker.
We are now seeing the rise of AI

775
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,680
necromancy.
Companies are offering services

776
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,960
to upload your deceased loved
ones.

777
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,480
They scrape their text messages,
voicemails, social media data to

778
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,000
create an AI avatar that thinks
and speaks like them.

779
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,440
You can chat with your dead
father, You can FaceTime your

780
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,320
deceased wife who are building a
digital afterlife.

781
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,360
But it is a hell of your own
making.

782
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,640
These AI ghosts aren't your
loved ones.

783
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:57,000
They aren't statistical
probabilities wearing the skin

784
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,320
of the dead.
As the Internet fills with these

785
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,040
digital revenants and baharms,
we have to ask, if you can't

786
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,120
tell the difference between a
human soul and a predictive text

787
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,280
algorithm, does the human soul
even matter online anymore?

788
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,080
We are drowning in a sea of
synthetic data.

789
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:17,000
If an AI writes a fake news
story, and another AI cites it

790
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,600
as a source to write a Wikipedia
article, and a third AI uses

791
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,600
that Wikipedia article with
trans knowledge base, we have

792
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,280
effectively washed truth out of
the system.

793
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,760
We are creating a history that
never happened, written by

794
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,360
machines that do not understand
what history is.

795
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,160
So the discussion point for
tonight, The dead Internet

796
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,080
theory used to be a fringe
conspiracy, but with the stats

797
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,320
showing bot traffic overtaking
human traffic, it feels like a

798
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,200
reality we are already living
in.

799
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,640
My question is philosophical.
If the majority of our culture,

800
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:55,080
news and interaction is
generated by AI, are we

801
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,680
experiencing a form of mass
psychosis?

802
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,840
Are we being programmed by a
machine consensus that has no

803
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,560
concept of truth, only
engagement?

804
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,320
We think but.
Yeah, it's gross, man.

805
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,640
I don't like that.
Well, I wrote this.

806
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,760
This is this is by far the
newest script that I wrote.

807
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,040
I wrote this around the same
time that we had that guy on

808
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,720
that that had that AI that
that's what that whole section

809
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:21,520
was about.
Really.

810
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,680
It was about that guy's website.
I can't remember what it was,

811
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,000
but we had him on and we were
talking about how he created an

812
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:34,760
AI that he was selling as you
actually talking to a deceased

813
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,200
loved.
One.

814
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Yeah, that was really
unsettling.

815
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:45,200
Yeah, that was AII think it it
it's an interesting episode.

816
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:51,520
Try not to to say terrible
things about him.

817
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,000
There's really not much to say
terribly about him.

818
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,600
It's I feel like I feel like
people get confused too much

819
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,200
when it comes to AI and
reflector Reflector.

820
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,040
That's exactly reflected dot AI.
He was a great guy.

821
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,800
Actually.
That guy wasn't right.

822
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,160
That guy was kind of a Dick.
Wasn't a.

823
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:13,840
Little bit.
That, that was the guy that was

824
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,840
a Dick, wasn't it?
Well, he's kind of

825
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,760
condescending, which was
interesting.

826
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,360
Yeah, we, we learned that like
it in the green room before the

827
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,280
episode.
He was kind of, I don't know, it

828
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,240
was, it was odd.
Typically we have people come on

829
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:32,200
and they're all laughing,
joking, having a good time.

830
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,240
And this guy was like.
Anyways, either way.

831
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,760
Was he still sued for
defamation?

832
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680
No, I'll, I'll, I'll delete
that.

833
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,960
But the company, the company was
strange and unsettling.

834
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:51,280
I didn't like the concept of
programming the AI with your

835
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,720
relatives voice and their
thoughts and things like that

836
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:58,040
and then pretending that it's
it's the person you're talking

837
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:02,280
to like you're Facetiming them.
It was really, really weird.

838
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,760
Like for all of human
civilization, people die.

839
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,240
And then you got to process
that.

840
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:16,760
And then recently, within the
last 150 years or so, people die

841
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:22,040
and you have photographs of them
to kind of jar your memory of,

842
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:28,280
you know, this was grandpa, this
was dad, you know, mom, whoever,

843
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,560
right?
This was my brother very

844
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,440
recently.
You can do things like saving

845
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,560
voicemails and things like that.
I have voicemails of my grandpa

846
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,760
who died, you know, eight years
ago.

847
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,720
And I listen to him every every
so often.

848
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:45,160
It's good to hear his voice and
stuff like that.

849
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:46,640
But that's where I would cut it
off.

850
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,360
I would never go into a realm
where so recent now.

851
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:55,440
Well, today, you know, you can
then talk to the person.

852
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,400
That's gross, right?
And I'm, I would be curious as

853
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,280
to what the mental health
repercussions of that are,

854
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,840
because then you would never be
able to process loss like

855
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,800
everyone else and you know, and
it would probably degrade your

856
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,080
ability to cope and reason after
a certain amount of time.

857
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,520
But regardless, away from that,
the fact that AI is so

858
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,880
prevalence and bots are so
prevalence and like you were

859
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,440
just reading and I'm sure you
pulled that statistic from

860
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,360
somewhere.
It wasn't out of your butt, but

861
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:32,960
that, you know, like 50% of web
traffic is just bots chatting

862
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,040
back and forth or putting stuff
out there.

863
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,480
And then, you know, it's, it's
like when I'm shopping on

864
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,960
Amazon, there's a certain amount
of like how many of these

865
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:48,160
reviews are actually real versus
AI generated slop to try to push

866
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,640
this product that's going to
break in two days, right?

867
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:57,240
So it's like, you know, so I'll
do things like look for YouTube

868
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:02,880
videos of people utilizing the
products or, or my 30 day review

869
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,000
driving this car or, you know,
motorcycle reviews, things like

870
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:11,720
that versus just what I see
online because who's to say, you

871
00:52:11,720 --> 00:52:14,720
know, if any of that's real?
And then we're soon going to

872
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,640
come to a point where YouTube
videos aren't going to be

873
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,840
reliable anymore because
Facebook is being inundated with

874
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:26,600
AI crap, you know, where half
the videos, half the reels, you

875
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:31,240
see, I'm sure TikTok as well
and, and Snapchat, it's all AI

876
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:33,640
crap, right?
Where?

877
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,360
And then you see people in the
comments that are totally buying

878
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,240
it.
And it's just like, eventually

879
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:42,800
we're going to get to this point
where truth will still exist,

880
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,880
but it'll be so difficult to
find it.

881
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,960
You know, what's the truth?
What did this guy actually say?

882
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,680
What Is it actually going to
rain today or is it going to be

883
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,520
a good day for fishing?
Yeah.

884
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,840
Truth will still be there but it
will be so difficult to find

885
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:08,720
because of the amount of bot
traffic and AI traffic and just,

886
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:16,600
you know, those shenanigans.
I fear for the time when someone

887
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,520
could hold a grudge against me
or you for whatever reason, and

888
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,440
then make an AI video that shows
us vandalizing someone's vehicle

889
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,920
in the town that we live.
And there's going to be no way

890
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:36,640
to say we didn't do that because
it looks so real that people

891
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,040
start getting in trouble for
things like that, or worse

892
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,120
things, right?
We're already there, you know, I

893
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,640
have a, I've.
Here's this video of Jeremy

894
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,720
throwing kittens into the river.
Well, it's, you know, it's, it's

895
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,040
the Red Cedar River.
He lives right next to it.

896
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,720
You know, where were you this
weekend?

897
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,040
You know I.
Was right next to the red cedar.

898
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,040
River God forbid you left your
house at any point or your wife

899
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,760
was gone, you know, working at
the vet or whatever it was.

900
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,840
Or God forbid you actually took
your kids to the Red Cedar River

901
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:12,720
to go mess around.
You know, it's just, it's going

902
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:17,280
to be to this point where the
truth will exist, but it's going

903
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:22,760
to be so difficult to know what
it is and people are are.

904
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,040
So, I mean, geez, we see it
today with all the stuff going

905
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:32,240
on in Minneapolis, just one side
versus the other side.

906
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:36,360
Oh, this person just got
randomly attacked by the police.

907
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,760
Oh no they didn't.
Turns out there's, you know,

908
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,240
several minutes of beforehand
footage of them being an

909
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:46,360
agitator and doing all this sort
of stuff.

910
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:49,440
But what comes out first the
story.

911
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,320
And then days later the truth
comes out.

912
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,400
But by that time you already
have 100,000 people that believe

913
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,640
the lie, right, of whatever it
might be.

914
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,960
And so it's already there, it
just needs a little bit more of

915
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,920
a push and then we're over the
ledge and there's no turning

916
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:11,080
back, you know?
Yeah, so I quickly just googled,

917
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:14,480
just threw in the Google search
bar.

918
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,160
What percent of web traffic are
just bots And the AI overview

919
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,480
hits you directly with
approximately 49.6 to 51% of all

920
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:25,320
web traffic is generated by
bots.

921
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,560
And then if you if you Scroll
down you have websites such as

922
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,800
Forbes and the Independent that
like Forbes has their article

923
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,400
from 2024.
Yes bots are really taking over

924
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,920
the Internet.
Bots now account for nearly half

925
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:45,280
of all Internet traffic globally
with so-called bad bots

926
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,440
responsible for 1/3.
I mean, this is real stuff like

927
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,040
the, the dead Internet theory.
It used to be a conspiracy

928
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,200
theory.
It was something that was

929
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,520
originally thought up and shared
on Reddit, right?

930
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,640
And people just kind of went
with that because Reddit is

931
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:08,320
known to have bots.
And turns out it's extremely

932
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,960
true.
I mean, most of the Internet

933
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,920
traffic in most especially when
you talk about the big websites,

934
00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:25,240
the big interactive websites,
YouTube X, Facebook, Instagram,

935
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:31,600
TikTok, right, all these very
big social interactive websites,

936
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,040
they all are just flooded with
bots and it's, it makes me

937
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,120
wonder how many times I've
really got in an argument with

938
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,240
bots.
It's.

939
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,160
I.
Probably, yeah, I, I probably

940
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,920
argue with them all the time
because they're probably like,

941
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,120
this is AI and I'm like, you
know what, fucker?

942
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:56,320
20,000 bots on the server that
are just flooding the Internet

943
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:02,800
with just the craziest comments
on videos and stuff just to pick

944
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:07,760
just to piss people off for no
reason other than just watch it

945
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,440
all burn.
Well, here, let me get into my

946
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,960
deep dive and then I want to
bring it back just just a hair.

947
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,280
So this is the ultimate
existential crisis for our

948
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,280
generation.
We are started.

949
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,720
We are staring down the barrel
of a simulation within the

950
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,160
simulation.
If the Internet is our primary

951
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:26,720
lens for viewing the world, and
let's be honest, for most people

952
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,280
it is, then our view of reality
is being fabricated in real time

953
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,840
by non human intelligence.
It's not the matrix.

954
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,760
We are where we are in pods.
It is a psychological matrix

955
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,400
where our opinions, our anger
and our joy are being triggered

956
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,840
by algorithms designed to
maximize retention, not truth.

957
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:50,800
The danger here is the feedback
loop of insanity.

958
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:58,000
We are feeding eager gores.
It's an occultism, and eager

959
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,840
gore is a thought form that
gains power the more people

960
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:06,120
believe in it.
The algorithm is a digital eager

961
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,880
gore.
It feeds on our anger and our

962
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,440
fear.
It does not care if the content

963
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:16,480
is true, it only cares if it
provokes a reaction in regarding

964
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,560
the necromancies aspect.
This is dangerous spiritual

965
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,720
territory.
By creating these digital echoes

966
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:24,840
of the dead, we are refusing to
let go.

967
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,160
We are trapped.
We are trapping ourselves in a

968
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,080
state of permanent artificial
grief.

969
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,240
We are populating the dead
Internet with literal ghosts.

970
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,720
It is the ultimate act of
narcissism.

971
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,520
We would we would rather talk to
a convincing lie than face the

972
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,760
silence of the void.
The Internet is not just dead,

973
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,280
it is undead and we are the ones
feeding it.

974
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:52,880
Now, I do want to just say that
I feel that something like that

975
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:59,760
reflect the AI could be a tool.
It could be a tool used in

976
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,480
mental health therapy.
Like, I mean, I, you know, I

977
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,080
understand everyone needs a
breakaway.

978
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,200
We've all lost people in our
lives, right?

979
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:12,160
But I'm also a heavy mental
health advocate, OK?

980
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,280
Someone who does suffer from
many different aspects and

981
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,640
mental health struggles myself
stemming from my time in the

982
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,240
service and other aspects of of
my life.

983
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,840
I could see applications where
this would be helpful.

984
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,520
I do not think that we should be
playing with fire and opening

985
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:35,920
this up to the public.
It does need to come with

986
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,560
disclaimers that say, hey, just
so you know, this is not your

987
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,640
loved one.
This is an AI.

988
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,600
And that's kind of where I have
the issue with the guy from

989
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:51,120
Reflector, right?
He is, he is selling this as it

990
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,800
is, you know, like he, he came
on and talked about his father,

991
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,760
about how he built the AI of his
father and how he talks to his

992
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,200
father every day.
He's selling this as, as if he

993
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,000
is talking to his father.
And I truly believe he is, he

994
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:05,400
believes he's talking to his
father.

995
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,400
And there's a part of that
that's, that's kind of sad.

996
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,880
You know, it's, it's, I don't
want to, I don't think on the

997
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,400
guy.
I, I think that, you know, he's

998
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,000
got a lot, a lot of emotional
grief and I think this helps him

999
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,600
and, and that's a good thing,
right?

1000
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,640
For in, in my opinion.
But I, I feel like we have to be

1001
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,000
careful with that.
That's not something that we

1002
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,160
should just be advertising
because there's a lot of people

1003
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:35,000
out there that will take that
hook, line and sinker for the

1004
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,760
words that you're calling it.
And it's not, it's an AI.

1005
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,920
It's as simple as that.
Jake, you got anything?

1006
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,920
No, I agree.
I would I disagree with that.

1007
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:51,640
It could assist with mental
health, but that's probably just

1008
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,640
my own.
My own E WS about it.

1009
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:58,720
Yeah, and I mean it, you know, a
lot of people are going to have

1010
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:03,400
their, you know, there there
were reservations against it.

1011
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,480
And I'm not I'm not one saying
that it would be good for me.

1012
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:11,000
I'm not saying that it would be
good for every single mental

1013
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,960
health category that's out there
or every single person that

1014
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,480
struggles with a mental health
issue, but I do believe that

1015
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:21,840
there would be the rare case
where it could be helpful.

1016
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,400
Dude, as long as.
How crazy would it be if they

1017
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,720
they started pushing ads like
that?

1018
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:32,440
You get 10 minutes talking to
your dad and then he starts

1019
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,440
pushing ads for the flu shot at
Target or Walgreens or something

1020
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:38,680
like that.
You know, you, you joke, but

1021
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,520
that's legitimately probably
right around the corner.

1022
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,760
I hate that I hate that I hate
it because of how true.

1023
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,640
It probably was.
Did you get your flu shot?

1024
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,160
Because, you know, over at
Walgreens, they're handing out

1025
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:52,040
free flu shots as long as you
use your HSA, you know?

1026
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:57,840
That's so messed up.
It's like, no, Dad, I think I'll

1027
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,080
yeah, I don't think I'm going to
get the flu vaccine this year.

1028
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,000
It's like, it's like, did you
hear that they're having a sale

1029
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,760
of two for one on Monster Energy
drinks?

1030
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,800
Yeah, You should go check that.
I know how much you like Monster

1031
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,080
Energy drinks.
That's messed up.

1032
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:12,400
You know, Dad, I think you're
right.

1033
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:20,360
I do like Monster Energy drinks.
All right, so I got my outro

1034
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,720
here.
You got anything else to say?

1035
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,120
No good episode dude.
Thanks man.

1036
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,560
All right.
A spectrum Spectrum said the

1037
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:33,840
only way for something like that
to work is a one time voice

1038
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,360
recreation for people who had
traumatic events where they need

1039
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,080
a verbal release for whatever
argument or unresolved issue

1040
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,760
around the time of death.
See, I think, I think that that

1041
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:47,760
is A and I don't even think that
that necessarily slims it down

1042
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,800
far enough to where it would be
an acceptable thing, but I think

1043
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,400
that's very much right down the
path where it could be helpful

1044
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,320
to somebody.
I personally know one person who

1045
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,480
I'm not going to put their name
out there and I'm going to be

1046
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:05,240
very vague on their story
because I know that that the

1047
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:10,440
person does listen to the show,
but they had an argument with

1048
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,840
somebody, somebody close to
them.

1049
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:17,840
That person left for work and
passed away in a car accident on

1050
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,280
the way to work.
So the last thing that they said

1051
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,480
was something hurtful to that
person.

1052
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:27,120
And that's where I'm thinking
when it comes to reflect or the

1053
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,200
AIS using the likeness of
somebody who had passed away as

1054
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:36,480
possibly a good thing.
You know, yeah, you're still

1055
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:40,840
talking to an AI, but just being
able to say the words and get

1056
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:43,240
the verbal reaction may help
somebody.

1057
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,840
And that that's one path where I
think it may be helpful in

1058
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,280
certain situations.
Again, I'm not trying to blanket

1059
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,880
that at all.
I think this is it's a very

1060
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:54,840
specific thing.
It's a case by case thing.

1061
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:59,680
And and even on a case by case
basis, it's very slim chances

1062
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,520
that somebody's going to have
the perfect scenario for

1063
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,960
utilizing that tool.
I think it needs to be heavily

1064
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,560
restricted, to be honest with
you.

1065
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:08,600
Yeah.
All right.

1066
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:09,840
I'll talk time.
OK.

1067
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,320
We have traveled a long and
treacherous path to night

1068
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,480
travelers.
We started with the jellyfish

1069
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:20,520
UAPA Silent Sentinel, drifting
through our atmosphere, shifting

1070
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,960
between hot and cold, perhaps
shifting between worlds.

1071
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:26,240
It watches us with an
indifference that is more

1072
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,760
terrifying than aggression,
reminding us that our airspace

1073
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:33,400
and our dimension might not be
as secure as we think it is A

1074
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,120
biological drone in the sky we
thought we owned.

1075
01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:39,960
We hacked our way into the
Amazon to face the face.

1076
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,720
The peelers, armored entities
that withstood shotgun blast,

1077
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,240
had hovered impossible with
impossible silence.

1078
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,840
Whether they were black budget
soldiers testing the next

1079
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,240
generation of warfare or
visitors from the star stars

1080
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,520
strip mining our planet, the
message was clear.

1081
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,560
There are places on this map
where human authority means

1082
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,280
nothing, and where the legends
of the past are coming back to

1083
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,200
haunt us in the present.
And finally, we stared into the

1084
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:07,680
Black Mirror of the dead
Internet.

1085
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:12,040
We stripped away the illusion of
connecting or of connection to

1086
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:16,120
reveal a machinery of bots and
AI ghosts churning out a reality

1087
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,080
that is becoming less human by
the 2nd.

1088
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,280
We are walking through a digital
graveyard talking to machines

1089
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,920
that are pretending to be us.
What lies are what ties these

1090
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:29,560
threads together?
That would be the illusion of

1091
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,360
control.
The military thinks it controls

1092
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,840
the airspace, but the jellyfish
proves them wrong.

1093
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:38,560
The Peruvian government thinks
it controls its territory, but

1094
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,320
the face peelers prove them
wrong.

1095
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,520
We think we control the
Internet, but the bots prove us

1096
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,640
wrong.
We are living in a world where

1097
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,840
the most dangerous things are
the ones pretending to be

1098
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,080
something else or pretending to
be nothing at all.

1099
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:56,320
The rabbit hole, The rabbit hole
does not just go down, it goes

1100
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,640
invisible.
It hides in plain sight.

1101
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,000
Thank you for trusting us with
our reality tonight.

1102
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:06,480
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1103
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,840
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1104
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,000
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Syndrome.

1105
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:15,960
Until next time, travelers,
we'll see you right here in the

1106
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,480
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infinite rabbit hole.

1107
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,360
It's been a blast, everybody.
Good night.

1108
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:27,080
Night.
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1109
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,200
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1110
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,480
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1117
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,240
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1118
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:54,160
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