IRH 266: Pyramids Predate Egypt & Pentagon UFO Update

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February 25th, 2026 NASA
releases images from the James

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Webb Space Telescope showing a
nebula that looks like a human

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brain suspended in space.
Scientists call it the exposed

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cranium, and some researchers
are asking what if the universe

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itself is a living Organism?
That same day, a researcher

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affiliated with the Autonomous
University of Barcelona

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publishes a paper claiming the
Great Pyramids of Giza weren't

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built by the ancient Egyptians.
He says they're 12,000 years old

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and constructed by a lost super
civilization with technology we

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still don't understand.
Two days earlier, on February

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23rd, scientists announced
they've discovered bacteria

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frozen in a Romanian ice cave
for 5000 years.

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It's resistant to 10 modern
antibiotics, and it's raising

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questions about whether life on
Earth might have

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extraterrestrial origins.
And this week, Defense Secretary

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Pete Hagseth confirmed that the
Pentagon is actively working on

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President Trump's directive to
declassify government files on

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UFOs and aliens.
He said they're quote UN quote

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digging in while the All Domain
Anomaly Resolution Office, or

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Arrow, now has over 2000 UAP
cases in its database.

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Ancient bacteria that shouldn't
exist.

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A brain shaped nebula suggesting
the cosmos is alive, A 12,000

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year old pyramid mystery that
rewrites human history.

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And the US government is moving
forward with UFO

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declassification.
All of it happened in the last

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seven days.
Welcome back to infinite rabbit

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hole.
What's up everyone?

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I'm Jeremy Socha and you're
listening to the infinite Rabbit

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Hole, your briefing on the
unexplained.

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Today I'm joined by my Co host
Jake and CJ.

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And we've got a packed episode
tonight.

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All right, let's get into it.
We've got three stories in our

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briefing section tonight, and
then we're going deep on

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something that just dropped two
days ago.

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At the time of this recording, a
researcher claiming the great

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pyramids are 12,000 years old
and were built by a lost

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advanced civilization.
But first, our news briefing.

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In our first story, scientists
in Romania just woke up bacteria

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that's been frozen in ice for
5000 years.

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It's resistant to antibiotics
we've invented in the last

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century, and it's fueling
theories that life on Earth

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might have come from somewhere
else.

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For our second story, Defense
Secretary Pete Hegseth confirmed

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this week that the Pentagon is
actively working on Trump's UFO

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to classification order and
arrows.

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Caseload just passed 2000 cases.
And for our final briefing, NASA

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releases images of a nebula that
looks like a human brain

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floating in space.
It's called the exposed cranium,

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and it's reviving a theory that
the universe itself might be a

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living, conscious Organism.
But before that, let's check in

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with the guys.
Jacob, what up, buddy?

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Oh, I'm so exotic now in my
name.

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Nothing.
I'm excited to get into these

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stories.
I feel like there's going to be

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a little bit of an overlap in
conversation, especially with

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the first one.
But yeah, it sounds pretty dope.

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Let's let's get into it.
I'm ready to go.

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Sweet man CJ second show back
dude how you doing?

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I'm doing all right.
I'm doing all right.

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I'm, I'm having a pretty good
week.

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I'm getting into the works of
David Hume right now.

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David Hume, she's a philosopher.
I actually have Underneath the

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Death Whistle that I bought
because of Jake.

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What are you, a philosophizer?
Yeah, dude, for like years, man,

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years a big part of my life.
So this is the complete works of

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Hume here.
It's a pretty thick book, but

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and I was like the Carl Jung's
Red Book.

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I have all bookshelf full of
philosophy stuff.

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Carl Jung.
I know that one.

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Yeah, I have his red book
sitting here.

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I have, oh, nice symbols and
then individuation all kind of

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shit over there.
But so David Hume and Emmanuel

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O'Connor are like these two like
main figures who represent

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different aspects of morality
from a consequentialism point of

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view and a deontological point
of view.

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And I just think that the whole
concept of morality and where it

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comes from and what's moral and
and immoral and like the

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different lines of thought are
like super interesting.

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And those two are like the
giants when it comes to when it

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comes to morality.
So reading their works is really

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interesting. 1st for sure.
I always thought it was

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pronounced Carl Jung but.
It's you.

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Yeah, it's you.
No, he's definitely a Titan in

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in that field and many others.
Honestly, Jung is.

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I mean, Jung touches morality,
but he's more about the process

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of individuation, you know,
assimilating aspects of the

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shadow, separation of the ego,
understanding the self,

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attaining the higher self and
understanding the higher truths,

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things like that.
He, he, he come, his teacher was

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Freud until he separated from
Freud and came up with his own

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ideas, you know, and about what
the ego is and, and whatnot.

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But no human Khan are really,
really cool.

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They're, they kind of go hand in
hand, I guess a little bit like

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Frederick Nietzsche a little
bit.

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Nietzsche is really, really hard
to understand though.

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I've, I've read one of his works
so far and it was not easy and I

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could have really used Cliff
notes.

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Well, I.
There's AI now, hey.

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Dude, I'm not even sure AI
understands it.

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And like and then like when you
read Nietzsche's work, like you

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have to like understand that.
Like when he died and his sister

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obtained all of his stuff, she
published his work and then

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added her own stuff to it and
published it.

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Or isn't it his name?
It's like the Super racist stuff

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in the books that's actually his
sister Poop.

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Yeah.
Well, no, it's it's pretty bad

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actually, but yeah.
I've got a few things to

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announce before we move on.
Big news for me is I finally got

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my edited version of of my book
back from my editor today.

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So the the Elmwood book will be
out soon.

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Just got to do the edits that
that he requested and I'll start

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looking at self-publishing and
get that out hopefully before

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any event that I'm going to
officially announce that I'm a

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part of.
It's already been officially

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announced through the organizer,
but I want to announce it to my

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listeners so that if they're in
the area, they can come out and,

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and, and say, hey, I'm doing
this right here.

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Let me share the screen for
those that are watching.

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If you're not watching, check
out youtube.com/infinite Rabbit

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Hole podcast.
This is the Wisconsin Caps

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website wicaps.com and they are
having a Cryptid and paranormal

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convention on May 9th in Fond du
Lac, WI and I will be there as a

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special guest speaker.
You can see this little guy

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right here that that picture
that's me right underneath the

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the cheese head Sasquatch got to
love it.

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They're going to have a Bigfoot
hike on May 8th.

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And one guy who's been on this
show before, Barnaby Jones is,

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is leading that.
And for those that are familiar

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with cryptozoology and those
that study it, this guy right

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here, Ken Gearhart is kind of a
Titan.

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He's the, he's the guy, the
other guy that wears the Black

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Hat other than than Lyle
Blackburn, who was on our show

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just a few months ago coming
down.

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You can see the entire lineup of
speakers and every, everything

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else that's going on there.
And there is your guy me.

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I will be talking about UF OS
specifically CE 5 or close

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encounters of the fifth kind.
I, I am going to be part of

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that, that panel there.
So by all means, I highly

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recommend Come out and check us
out, Come Shake My Hand.

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Hopefully the book's out by then
and you can snag yourself copy

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the book, but if not, at least
come say hey Fond du Lac, WI,

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May 9th, the day right before
Mother's Day.

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If you let me buy the very first
actual like hardcover book and

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sign it, I will reference it in
the next 10 episodes so that you

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don't have to be like this.
Reminds me of this crazy book

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I've been reading, you know?
Pull it.

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Out, Jeremy, I'll be like.
Yeah.

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He's going to shield the shit
out of you.

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You're going to sell at least
one copy.

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I'm going to steal it, but he's
he's going to buy it.

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You won't survive the
interaction.

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It's like, what does that mean
exactly?

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I don't know.
But no, I've already stolen the

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book.
It's fine.

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I already have it.
All right.

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I didn't talk about physically
stealing it.

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That's your copy.
You could buy that.

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That's.
All right, good.

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Downloaded off the dark web.
Happened.

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I convinced Jeremy to send it to
me Uber.

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Not sure if I'm going to do a
hardcover yet.

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I don't know how that works so I
haven't done that research yet.

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But you put cardboard.
We'll see.

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On the first page and you staple
it to it and it's a hardcover.

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All right, well, we'll see.
We'll see.

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Anyways, you guys ready to jump
into the news?

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All right.
In the depths of Scary Sawara

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Cave in Bromania sits one of the
world's largest underground

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glaciers.
It's a massive block of ice,

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roughly the size of 40 Olympic
swimming pools that started

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forming about 13,000 years ago.
Scientists drilled a 45 meter

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ice core from The Cave, which
revealed a frozen record

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spanning thousands of years.
And buried in a layer of that

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ice, they found something
extraordinary, a bacterial

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strain called Scyrobacter SC65 a
.3.

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The research was published in
the journal Frontiers in

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Microbiology on February 21st,
2026.

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Here's what makes this discovery
significant.

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The researchers tested this
ancient bacterium against 28

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modern antibiotics from 10
different drug classes.

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Drugs we use to treat everything
from tuberculosis, urinary tract

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infections, skin infections, and
serious bacterial diseases.

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The bacterium was resistant to
10 of the 28 antibiotics.

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Now, for those unfamiliar with
how antibiotics work, these are

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drugs designed to kill bacteria
or stop them from multiplying.

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When you get a bacterial
infection, antibiotics target

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specific mechanisms in the
bacteria, like breaking down

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their cell walls or blocking
their the ability to reproduce.

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They're one of modern medicines
most important tools.

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But when bacteria become
resistant, those drugs stop

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working.
The bacteria survive, multiply

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and spread, and we lose our
ability to treat infections that

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were once easily curable.
That's why antibiotic resistance

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is considered one of the biggest
threats to global health.

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And that's why finding
resistance in a 5000 year old

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bacterium is so significant.
This microbe has been frozen in

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ice for 5000 years, long before
penicillin was discovered, long

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before modern medicine existed.
And yet it carries resistance to

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drugs like trimethoprim,
clindaisum and metronidazone and

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others that were developed in
the 20th century.

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Genetic analysis revealed the
strain contains over 100 genes

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linked to antibiotic resistance,
Doctor Christina Porcia, senior

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scientist at the Institute of
Biology Bucharest, said.

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This quote studying microbes
such as Sygrobacter SC 658.3

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retrieved from millennia old
cave ice deposits reveal how

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antibiotic resistance you've
evolved naturally in the

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environment long before modern
antibiotics were ever used.

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So what does this actually mean?
Well, first, it challenges the

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narrative that antibiotic
resistance is purely a result of

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modern drug overuse.
This bacterium proves that

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resistance mechanisms existed in
nature thousands of years before

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humans invented antibiotics.
Bacteria have been locked in a

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chemical arms race for millions
of years, producing and

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resisting antibacterial
compounds as part of Earth's

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natural ecology.
But here's where it gets

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interesting For the French
science community, this

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discovery is fueling transpermia
theories, or the idea that life

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on Earth may have
extraterrestrial origins.

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Transpermia suggests that
microorganisms, or the building

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blocks of life, can survive in
space and be transported between

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planets, moons, or even star
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or interstellar dust.
When these objects impact a

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planet, they could seed it with
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Psychrobacter SC65-A Tech 3 show
us that microbial life can

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survive extreme conditions,
frozen for millennia, resistant

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to environmental threats,
carrying genetic information

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that seems almost preloaded, if
you will.

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Some researchers argue that if
bacteria can carry advanced

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resistance genes without prior
exposure to modern antibiotics,

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it raises the question, where
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come from?
Now, mainstream scientists would

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say it's just natural selection
over millions of years.

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But panspermia advocates point
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ask, what if these organisms
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What if they arrived on Earth
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mechanisms honed on another
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There's also a more immediate
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Quote If melting ice releases
these microbes, these genes

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could spread to modern bacteria,
adding to the global challenge

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of antibiotic resistance.
As the planet worms and glaciers

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melt, we could be releasing
ancient organisms in ancient

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genetic code back into the
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Organisms that modern medicine
wasn't designed to handle.

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On the flip side, the discovery
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The bacterium produces unique
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compounds that could inspire new
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It also carries nearly 600 genes
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There's a lot we don't
understand about what the

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ancient microbe is capable of,
so here's the bottom line.

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Scientists just revived a 5000
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resistant to drugs we invented
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It's raising questions about the
origins of life on Earth, the

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Natural History of antibiotic
resistance, and what other

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ancient microbes might be
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So my question, Jake, CJ, do you
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panspermia theory or is this
just nature doing what it's

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always done?
Let's go Jake first, because I

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believe that's going to be the
quickest.

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You'd be wrong.
Two things, yes.

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Organic matter, bacteria, some
simple organisms, yes, have been

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known to survive incredibly
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whether that's the removal of
oxygen or just the absolute most

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freezing temps or, you know,
setting it on fire, you know,

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things like that.
Some things just do survive,

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right?
Or I've learned to adapt over

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time or we're just made to be
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I mean, I don't know, It's it's
just a a toss up really.

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The idea that they came from
other planets.

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I mean, you know how I feel
about that, But it's it's

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interesting that you did it in
this order because here shortly

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you're going to talk about how
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years old and not made by the
Egyptians and made instead by an

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advanced civilization.
So you mean an advanced

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civilization that could have
been doing anti microbial and

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antibacterial treatments and
making resistant bacteria and

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then some of that got frozen and
not completely wiped out and

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whatever the Ice Age or the the
flood or something like that,

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right?
Is that what?

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Damn, Jake is swinging with the
left.

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I'm just saying.
Like like here, here I have like

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I'm, I'm about to listen to two
different scientists in two

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different, totally different
fields basically coming to the

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same conclusion or, you know, or
not the same inclusion, two

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different conclusions around the
same topic, but in their own

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specialized fields, right.
One will say, well, it came from

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another planet.
The other one's going to say,

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well, an advanced civilization
made these guys made these,

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these pyramids.
That's all that they, they could

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do was just make, you know, 90°
blocks and transport these, you

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know, massive stones from
wherever they came from.

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They didn't do anything else
that that's all that they did.

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You know, they didn't have any
other technologies or any other

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like germ theory or anything
like that.

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I mean, it's just, you know,
kind of begs the question is

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like, you know, is this
something that we could say, oh,

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it came from somewhere else or
could we say it came from right

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here from a civilization that,
you know, was way more advanced

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than us?
And we're just kind of as we go

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through archaeology and through
the study of the earth and as,

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as far as we know it, we're
running into those like those

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footprints, those ancient
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before what we would consider
modern man or recorded history,

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right?
I don't know, it's kind of a

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toss up.
Wow.

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Yeah, I like, I like how you
know me Like I I typically would

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do this stuff in chronological
order or something that makes

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sense.
But the reason why I didn't do

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it today is because the Pyramids
is it's our deep dive.

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Yeah.
That's the only reason is

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because we're doing it last,
because it's the deep dive.

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Now, I mean, now that's not to
take anything from your deep

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dive.
I mean, I'm sure we'll have

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plenty to talk about there too.
But I I can just, I can see the

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parallels, right?
I can see that, you know, like I

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said, two scientists and they're
two separate fields coming at

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the same topic in what they see,
but coming to a different

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conclusion.
I like it.

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I like.
It and for me, one is way more,

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you know, likely than the other.
CJ, what do you think, Bud?

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Honestly, Jake is cooking on
that one.

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I like can't, I can't add
anything to that.

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It's 100% exactly what I'm
thinking.

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It doesn't.
It doesn't make sense that if we

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have this like advanced
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the more I look into the idea
that there was a high tech

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civilization before ours
existing and like the evidence

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to support that, everything Jake
said makes total sense.

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And really really I don't know
why we can't just leave that

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bacteria frozen and go back to
eating bats.

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That seems to be our way of
getting new bacteria dude so.

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Every time something gets pulled
out of the Dang IS, I'm like,

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we've had Jurassic Park movies
for like 30 years now guys, what

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are you doing?
Right.

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Like we've got enough.
We've got enough problems with

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the germs that we create, right?
No crowns on purpose, the ones

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we create on purpose like we
don't really need to dig up the

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ones that this past civilization
was dealing with and well hey

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guys look what we found good put
it back.

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We have enough problems like.
Now, now let's, that's not to

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say that nature doesn't adapt
because assuredly it does,

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right?
It, it adapts in all kinds of

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ways.
And so, yes, it is possible that

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we could invent something like a
drug that fights a specific type

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of bacteria and then come across
a bacteria that's more advanced

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than the simple ones that we've
been fighting off, like the flu

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or, I don't know, chlamydia or,
you know, something like that.

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Like doesn't something, doesn't
bacteria become like like drug

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resistant, like through like it
evolves and like morphs as it's

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exposed to different drug.
So like naturally, most bacteria

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and viruses or whatever, well,
not viruses don't really get

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affected by drugs like bacteria
and whatnot.

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They they're not naturally
immune to most of our drugs.

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Like they develop that as like
as adaptations to continue its

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own survival.
So the fact that this thing is

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like super immune to ten of our
drugs, it doesn't seem naturally

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occurring.
I would, I would ask because I

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obviously I'm not the guy for
this, but I would ask what I, I,

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I don't understand necessarily
how a drug is made that is able

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to able to defeat these types of
bacterias.

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Like what concoction of stuff is
the thing that's able to defeat

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that?
Like if it's just a line of

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genetic code, like an mRNA type
thing or whatever it is that's

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able to beat out this other line
in genetic code.

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Is it possible that since all
drugs really anything that we

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have is somehow and in the
earliest form derived from the

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earth itself, right?
You know, even if it's, you

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know, microchips comes from the
earth in some way, shape or

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form, is that the same thing
with germ theory that the drugs

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that we have come from the
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So it's it's possible that there
could be germs out there that

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are just immune or have adapted
to dealing with those types of

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ingredients over time that are
inside the drugs.

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And because there's one thing
that they are immune to, then

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the whole drug in itself doesn't
work.

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Does that make sense when I'm?
It's totally possible dude,

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because like all, like all, like
you said, all of our drugs come

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from natural sources, right?
Right.

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So like, and, and people well
before our time were using those

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natural sources because they had
some level of efficacy in, in,

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in helping them feel better when
they were sick.

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So like rudimentary stuff that
they, they were using honey and

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ash and charcoal and stuff like
that.

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So, you know, and then like
there's all kinds of different

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like roots and flowers and all
kinds of things that have

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natural healing properties and
antibacterial properties to

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them.
And I mean, back in the day they

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called that witchcraft, right?
And now we call it medical

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science.
So.

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It's still witchcraft, but yeah.
Essentially, sure, yeah.

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But but yeah, I mean like if
they were if they were exposing

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this bacteria to like
rudimentary things that not as

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effective as the drugs we have
cause like our drugs are

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refined, right?
We take those ingredients, we

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refined them and we get.
They're not powerful.

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You're not taking a whole clove
of garlic with some water

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anymore.
Yeah.

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Right, right.
Like or like, you know, just

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Downing like gallons of honey
and hoping for the best, right.

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But like, you know, you have
those things and like these

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roots that have these naturally
occurring chemicals.

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And I'm sure you could have
exposed it and maybe it has like

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a mild like resilience.
But like, it's essentially like,

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you know, they have like a like
a roofing nail, right?

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And they were hitting it with a
standard hammer.

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And our, our modern day drugs
are like hitting that same

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roofing nail with a
sledgehammer, right?

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So it's still strange that the
bacteria would be resistant to

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those drugs, even with like
evolved or adapted resistances

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to like rudimentary sure, and
like archaic forms of treatment.

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Definitely.
Well, I think we hammered that

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one out.
With a sledgehammer.

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I see what you did there.
All right.

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You guys ready to move on?
Yes.

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All right, briefing #2 Last
week, we covered President

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Trump's February 20th directive
ordering the Pentagon to

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declassify government files on
UFOs and aliens.

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This week, we got confirmation
that it's actually happening.

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On February 23rd, Defense
Secretary Pete Hegseth was asked

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directly about the
declassification order during a

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visit to Sierra Space in
Colorado.

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Here's what he said.
Quote, we've got our people

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working on it right now.
I don't want to oversell how

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much time it will take, but
we're digging in.

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He added that his team will be
in full compliance with Trump's

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instructions and told reporters
to stand by for updates.

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This is significant.
Higgs has admitted he didn't

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have this task on his bingo card
for this year, but he's publicly

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confirming that the Pentagon is
actively identifying and

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preparing to release files.
Shortly after Trump's

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announcement, Pentagon spokesman
Sean Pornell said the Department

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of Defense, quote, looks forward
to working with the interagency

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to fulfill the president's
directive.

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And Hegseth himself posted a
screenshot Trump's order on

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social media with an alien emoji
and a saluting emoji.

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So this isn't being dismissed or
delayed, is being treated as a

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legitimate directive.
Now, here's some additional

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context that just came out this
week.

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The Pentagon's All Domain
Anomaly Resolution Office, or

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Arrow, has now logged over 2000
UAP cases in its database.

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That's the office Congress
created in 2022 to investigate

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unidentified anomalous phenomena
it launched under the Biden

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administration, and its caseload
has been steadily growing.

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Arrow officials briefed Congress
early on and issued several

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reports documenting UAP
sightings.

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But recently, they've been tight
lipped.

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00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,920
They haven't published our 2025
annual report or the second

456
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,000
volume of reports on government
involvement with UAP.

457
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,800
So the fact that the caseload
has surpassed 2000 cases and the

458
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,440
fact that Trump is now ordering
declassification suggests

459
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,400
there's a lot more data than the
public has seen.

460
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,840
Christopher Mellon, former
deputy assistant Secretary of

461
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,600
Defense for intelligence, said
this about Trump's order.

462
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,560
Quote, this might be a
consequential moment, but the

463
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,920
impact will depend on the follow
through.

464
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,600
He's right.
The question isn't whether Trump

465
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,440
issued the directive he did.
He did that for sure.

466
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,080
The question is what actually
gets released and when.

467
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,720
Trump's order doesn't specify a
timeline.

468
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,440
It doesn't say what information
will will be disclosed or how

469
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,040
much will be redacted.
It just directs the Secretary of

470
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,440
Defense and other agencies to,
quote, begin the process of

471
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:48,160
identifying and releasing files.
So what happens next?

472
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,120
Well, there are a few
possibilities.

473
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,240
The Pentagon could release files
confirming that UAP are real and

474
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,000
that they've been tracked for
decades and that their origin is

475
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,480
unknown.
That would be significant.

476
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,360
It wouldn't necessarily be
shocking.

477
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,120
We already know this from
congressional testimony and

478
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,720
Arrow reports.
Or they could go further.

479
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,720
They could confirm the existence
of recovered materials.

480
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,440
They could acknowledge that an
analysis suggests non human

481
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,960
manufacturing.
They could admit that reverse

482
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,080
engineering efforts have been
underway.

483
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440
That would be a major step.
It would confirm that the US

484
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,960
government possesses physical
evidence of non human

485
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,160
technology.
Or, and this is the scenario

486
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,600
that would fundamentally change
everything, they could confirm

487
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,440
that non human intelligence
exists, that contact has been

488
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,440
established, that recovered
craft and potentially biological

489
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,280
entities are real.
Which scenarios?

490
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,440
Most likely That depends on what
the government actually knows

491
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,520
and what they're willing to
admit.

492
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,920
But here's what we can say with
confidence.

493
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,240
Trump wouldn't have issued this
directive unless he's prepared

494
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880
to release something he
understands.

495
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,280
Optics.
We went over this last week.

496
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,320
If he orders declassification
and nothing significant comes

497
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,400
out, it makes him look foolish
and makes the directive

498
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,600
meaningless.
So either he knows there's

499
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,160
something substantial to
release, or he's confident that

500
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,600
even limited disclosures will
satisfy public interest and

501
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600
allow him to claim he's being
transparent.

502
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,320
Now.
Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb,

503
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,080
who's briefed Congress on UAP
and leads the Galileo Project

504
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,720
searching for extraterrestrial
technology, said this quote.

505
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,520
One step that can be taken
immediately is to declassify

506
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,960
events from 50 years ago.
Technologies used half a century

507
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,640
ago are no longer strategically
sensitive.

508
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,840
Releasing older data could
significantly advance scientific

509
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,920
research.
Now, to me, that's a reasonable

510
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,840
approach, Declassify old files
that don't compromise current

511
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,840
national security and let
scientists analyze them.

512
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,000
But some experts are skeptical.
Former Arrow Director Sean

513
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,480
Kirkpatrick said people
expecting evidence of alien life

514
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,480
will be, quote, UN quote,
disappointed.

515
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,200
He called Trump's order a
distraction for administration

516
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,440
and predicted that people will
cry conspiracy and claim there's

517
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,520
a cover up no matter what gets
released.

518
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,480
He might be right or he might be
wrong.

519
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,880
What we know is this.
The Pentagon is actively working

520
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,440
on Trump's declassification
order.

521
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,720
Arrow has over 2000 UAP cases in
its files and the disclosure

522
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,240
conversation has officially
shifted from if to when.

523
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,160
So, Jake, CJ, let's see if
anything has changed in your

524
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,320
opinions on this.
Do you think the Pentagon will

525
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,200
actually release significant
information, or is this just a

526
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,960
political move that ends with
redacted files?

527
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,960
We've already seen CJ go with
you first, bud.

528
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,800
We're never going to get more
than the tip of the iceberg no

529
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,960
matter what they say is
declassified.

530
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,520
It's all false flags.
SIOP Fucking bullshit.

531
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,560
They're never, they're never
going to tell us what we

532
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,600
actually want to know.
It's like, it's like when you're

533
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,600
training a dog, right?
And you want certain behaviors

534
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,680
out of it.
You never give it the full

535
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920
begging strip.
You give it a little piece off

536
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:16,760
of it until it starts to
respond.

537
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,200
And then it gets used to just
getting that little piece and

538
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,480
that little piece is good
enough.

539
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,080
And then eventually you don't
give a shit.

540
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,480
You just click a little thing
when it does what you say.

541
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,240
And then and then eventually you
don't even do that anymore.

542
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,600
So we're never, we're never
going to get the full story.

543
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,600
We're just going to have to be
OK with the fact that they're

544
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,160
going to give us the smallest
piece of the pie that they

545
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,880
absolutely can get away with
without us bitching.

546
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,800
Yeah, well, here's where I agree
with CJI.

547
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:53,360
Mean, I mean, regardless of what
gets declassified, people are

548
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,640
going to hate Trump regardless
because like we discussed last

549
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:02,600
week, without going full board
back into it, I mean, the amount

550
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,560
of information that the
president actually has versus

551
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,520
all the people that work
underneath him is very limited.

552
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,920
So they're going to say that
Trump is creating a SIOP when in

553
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,960
reality it's the Pentagon that's
creating the SIOP because they

554
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,600
have the information or, you
know, the Department of War has

555
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,160
the information or whatever,
right?

556
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,840
It's just I, I, I stand by what
I said last week.

557
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,520
I truly believe that he is
serious and that he wants

558
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,840
information to be released.
But then he also has to have

559
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,040
people that work underneath him
that are going to be willing to

560
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:44,240
release that information.
And I don't think that we're

561
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,920
going to get anything
substantial that's just going to

562
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,760
blow the lid off the whole
thing.

563
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:55,320
Like if it's if it's even
possible that we do have worldly

564
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,360
or other dimensionally, you
know, other other dimensional

565
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,560
craft that we are reverse
engineering.

566
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,720
There is no way because of
national security that that

567
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,960
would ever get out and release
to the public unless through a

568
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,159
whistleblower, in which case
everyone could just be like, I

569
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:12,199
don't know what he's talking
about.

570
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,199
He's insane, He's crazy.
Oh, look, he just, you know, he

571
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:16,800
just died in a car accident.
Weird.

572
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,040
You know, it's just like it'll
never just come out.

573
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,520
They won't ever say that because
in the grand scheme of things,

574
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:29,440
regardless of how the individual
that's listening or either of

575
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,560
you feel about the other
countries that take up the face

576
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:40,000
of this earth, in their minds,
they cannot allow them to get a

577
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,560
hold of that information.
And the easiest way for them to

578
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:48,520
do that is through Google or
through, you know, a release of

579
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,080
information as if Russia and
China aren't watching our news,

580
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,159
you know, newscasting 24/7 to
see if anything leaks out they

581
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,120
can use against us.
Or not, but the gap.

582
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:02,520
Is there right, even if that
isn't happening, the belief and

583
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,560
the fear is there.
So yeah, I don't, I don't see

584
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,880
anything crazy coming from it,
although it would be cool to

585
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,760
have more talking points here on
the podcast for more, you know,

586
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,560
types of Uaps, because who's to
say that the only thing we have

587
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,320
is like balls and tik toks and
rods and things like that, or

588
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,520
Tik toks, tic Tacs and rods and
things like that.

589
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,440
You know, maybe there's, you
know, maybe there's a, a, a Nazi

590
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,520
bell flying about, who knows?
You know, I don't know.

591
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,320
That'd be kind of cool to have a
talking point and be like, wow,

592
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,440
this is interesting.
So.

593
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,880
The truth is, space is fake.
Those aren't spacecraft, they're

594
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,080
interdimensional craft, and
they're never going to tell us

595
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,880
that.
Jeff, sit down.

596
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,200
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, most definitely.

597
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:51,280
The Van Allen radiation belt.
No one can get past it, not even

598
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,840
them.
If you're new to listening here,

599
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,880
not everyone on this show thinks
that space is fake.

600
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:03,720
I for one think space is real.
I think space is real.

601
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,480
I don't think the space station
is real.

602
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,240
I think this, yeah, I think the
space station is real.

603
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,400
I think it's a it's.
It's, it's just not, it's not as

604
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,160
far, well, obviously it's not as
far as people think it is.

605
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,000
Something up there ain't right
about that because they always

606
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,920
say there's like all that space
debris and like this tiny little

607
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,800
trunk is, is flying so fast that
it would absolutely demolish

608
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,920
stuff if it hit it.
Like how do they dodge all that

609
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:31,440
shit?
That's just that's just that.

610
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,480
But like a a Pebble, you know,
something the size of a dime, if

611
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,240
that thing is flying as fast as
they say it is and, and it

612
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:41,440
contacts, it's something the
size of a size of a dime.

613
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:42,760
It's just going to shoot right
through it.

614
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,560
Most of it's just sheet metal.
You know, it's, I mean, yeah,

615
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,440
there's, there's a ton of
insulation on there and

616
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
everything.
But you know, out of all the

617
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,040
documentaries that I've watched
on the space station, it's

618
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,280
surprisingly thin.
You know, I, I don't, I don't

619
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,160
actually, I, I actually agree
with Jeff.

620
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:01,200
That's why I said like I I don't
think that space itself is fake,

621
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,400
but I don't think they're
actually truthful with us about

622
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,320
what it actually is up there.
I don't I don't agree with Jeff

623
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,320
on space is fake.
Now he'll say that he's talking

624
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,240
hyper hyperbolically and you
know what?

625
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,800
Whatever.
I think he flip flops on that

626
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,880
sometimes.
I think he legitimately thinks

627
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,320
space is super fake.
Like fake, fake one argument.

628
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,800
I do like that he brings up this
is, this is off topic a little

629
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,440
bit, but the whole fact that all
the nations can behave together

630
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,480
up in the space station but not
down here on Earth, It's, it's

631
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,560
actually quite hilarious.
Yeah.

632
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,600
Well, I mean that makes sense.
It's a much smaller, it's a much

633
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,520
smaller group, right?
The more people you get

634
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,040
together, they start clicking
and then they find like they

635
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,040
find reasons to hate another
group.

636
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,280
Like that's just human nature.
So like, but you have a very

637
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,160
small group up there, chances
are they're going to work

638
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,880
relatively.
Well, together, plus the the

639
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,160
fear of being ejected through
the the track space lock is

640
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,520
pretty right, Right.
It's like, it's like if, if if I

641
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,800
had a knife and you had a knife
and at any point one of us could

642
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,280
get stabbed, how polite would
you act?

643
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,640
Right, faffo is a real thing up
there.

644
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,640
It's like it's.
Like at.

645
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,720
Any point I could just trip you
into the airlock and eject you

646
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:16,960
into space?
Oh crap, that's weird, I didn't

647
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,200
know that would happen.
But yeah, I actually, I actually

648
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,680
really do space.
Toilets.

649
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,680
I really do think that most of
the Uaps we see are actually

650
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,040
interdimensional craft and not
outer spacecraft anyway.

651
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,040
And I really don't think they'll
ever tell us that because that

652
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,360
would confirm multiverse theory.
And if that, and if like they

653
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,400
know for a fact that that's
true, they'll never ever tell us

654
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,880
that that's true.
We should do an episode one time

655
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,240
where we just discussed that
because I've got a shit ton of

656
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:49,000
information.
I am right on board with you.

657
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,200
If anybody is familiar with John
Keel's Ultra terrestrial theory,

658
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,240
that's the thing that makes the
most sense to me.

659
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,960
And if anybody wants that
episode, leave, leave a comment,

660
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,760
let us know.
We could talk about it.

661
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,800
I can break it down for anybody
who's really interested in it,

662
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,360
and I could break it down in a
way that makes sense.

663
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,200
What?
What?

664
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,920
Wait, why does that matter?
We want the episode.

665
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,680
Let's.
Why don't?

666
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Yeah, come on.
I don't.

667
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,600
I don't care about the listeners
at this point.

668
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,040
Come on dude.
No.

669
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,840
Let's do it because we want to
do it.

670
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,120
Well, maybe we'll make it.
AI could potentially make it a

671
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,680
Project Jackalope episode.
We'll, we'll, we'll kick that

672
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,720
one.
Around, you know, the crappy

673
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,240
thing too is because I'm sitting
here thinking, because I agree

674
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,840
with CJ.
I think that there's not I think

675
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,960
it it there's multi parallels,
like multi dimensions, not in

676
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,120
the way of like at some point at
some place in the multiverse,

677
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,160
there's a a Jacob Owens that's
sitting here doing a podcast

678
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,360
right now, except I have, you
know, 5 arms because one the six

679
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,760
doesn't work right?
Instead of two arms, right.

680
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,320
I don't think of it like that,
but that there's multiple

681
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:01,320
dimensional planes.
But what would be gained, the

682
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,960
thought process of my head, is
what would be gained by that

683
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,880
information being kept to secret
besides just being like, we're

684
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,360
better than those peons because
we know information that would

685
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,080
blow up their tiny little brains
and we're not going to give it

686
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,920
to them.
And that makes sense.

687
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,760
The most likely it.
Makes sense to not tell us

688
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,680
because of control.
Because I felt superior and

689
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,160
knowing and we didn't.
It's, it's control that would

690
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:31,200
there be, if, if they confirmed
that there was a multiverse and

691
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,720
that not only was there a
multiverse, but there are beings

692
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:39,360
who can travel the multiverse,
the entire planet would panic.

693
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,280
It would be absolute pandemonium
because no one would want to

694
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,600
deal with that because we don't
have the technology, at least as

695
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,480
far as citizens are concerned,
we don't have the technology to

696
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,360
transverse those dimensions
ourselves.

697
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,080
So if there was to be like an
attack for whatever reason,

698
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,720
resources or whatever, we would
have no way to fight back

699
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:00,600
against that.
And that's horrifying.

700
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,040
Well, it would certainly break
down the idea that the

701
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,760
government's main job of any,
any government, which they do or

702
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,920
they do not depends, but the
government's main job is to

703
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,760
protect the citizens of that
country.

704
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,920
And if they can't provide
protection, then what good are

705
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,720
they?
Why listen to them?

706
00:41:19,720 --> 00:41:22,400
Why follow their rules?
So yeah, I could see that that

707
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,800
makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, it's all about

708
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,760
control and keeping us place and
complacent, at least while

709
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,120
they're trying to figure out
maybe, maybe, maybe they're

710
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,360
developing a way to do it.
Maybe that's what that bell

711
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Jeremy brought up before was
for.

712
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,240
Because as far as far as I know,
when it comes to like the Nazi

713
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,560
bell, like they don't actually
know what they wanted to use it

714
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:42,760
for.
Like, they have theories like

715
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,440
time travel and stuff, but they
never actually confirmed what

716
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,240
the idea was behind that device.
Maybe he was trying to travel

717
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:49,720
dimensions?
Maybe.

718
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,240
There's a lot.
Of other dimensions.

719
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,400
That's messed up.
Maybe that's what the TR 3.

720
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,920
B is all right.
Yeah, true, true, true.

721
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,040
All right.
There we have hollow Earth and

722
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,560
there's a lot of fucking things
in there.

723
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,080
Yeah.
Big feet.

724
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,800
I'm going to, I'm going to take
a second to just kind of break

725
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,720
off and, and give you a, a quick
analogy of the ultra terrestrial

726
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:18,120
theory that I think would help
out with at least getting people

727
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,800
interested in the idea.
So we've discussed adnesium

728
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,960
about UFOs and their incredible
ways of moving, right?

729
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:33,640
They can move at speeds and
velocities that a human body

730
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,040
cannot withstand.
In within our gravitational

731
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,400
field right here on Earth, 1G is
what we feel.

732
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,560
Wherever you're sitting, pretty
much you're feeling 1G1

733
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:52,360
gravitational unit.
Anything faster than that, or

734
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:58,920
anything faster than I think is
13, humans start to pass out and

735
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,280
bone structure starts to
degrade.

736
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:07,320
UFOs, UAP, whatever you want to
call them, have been documented

737
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,760
at moving up to 19 GS extremely
fast.

738
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:19,560
Now we can't survive that.
We can't fly at 19 and do a

739
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,160
perfect 90° angle.
We can't immediately stop and

740
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,560
restart.
So here's the analogy.

741
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,640
Imagine this is a Petri dish.
And for those that aren't

742
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,720
watching right now, I'm holding
up like a little post it note

743
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:37,840
thing.
OK, Now if this Petri dish has

744
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:42,400
bacteria on it, OK, and I'm a
scientist, I'm looking at this

745
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,640
back at this Petri dish.
The bacteria on here has a life

746
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,800
cycle of 5 minutes.
Everything that they have to do

747
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:57,760
within their lifetime is be
born, reproduce, grow old and

748
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,000
die 5 minutes long.
If I take an instrument like

749
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,360
this pen here and I touch the
Petri dish, how would that be

750
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:13,040
perceived to the bacteria?
Let's say that they have a

751
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:15,520
sentience that's close to
humans.

752
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,360
They're intelligent, OK?
They're they're capable of

753
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:24,600
communicating, of documenting
history, of documenting events.

754
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,040
What would this pen tip look
like in the Petri dish?

755
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,000
It would look like it just came
out of nowhere to a a bacterium.

756
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:39,480
Now, if I remove the pen, they
would look like something just

757
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,800
disappeared.
What I'm trying to do is give

758
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,120
you an analogy of a 2D world, A2
dimensional world.

759
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,080
OK, X&Y axis.
That's pretty much it.

760
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,400
All right, That's the analogy
for the bacteria here.

761
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,320
As I touch the Petri dish, the
world in which this bacteria

762
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:02,960
lives in, and I remove the pen
from the Petri dish, it looks to

763
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,280
the bacteria as if something
just appears and disappears.

764
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:13,120
Now, let's say 20 minutes goes
by and I grab a new tool.

765
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,480
Here I go.
I got the back end of this pen.

766
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,160
Here it's the back, back end of
this red pen.

767
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,280
And now I touch it because I
want to see how the bacteria is

768
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:25,680
going to react to that.
Now, remember, the bacteria sees

769
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,360
time on a different scale than
what we do.

770
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,680
OK?
They live their whole life in 5

771
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,400
minutes.
We don't.

772
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,760
OK?
We live in an average of 80 to

773
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,800
100 years.
In human terms, the way we

774
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:44,920
perceive time now, their 5
minutes feels like a lifetime.

775
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,640
But what's only taken 20 minutes
for us has taken 4 generations

776
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,920
that has gone by for this
bacteria.

777
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,880
So the pen touches the pad or
touches the, the Petri dish and

778
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:03,760
they see another object appear.
Well, they're freaking out,

779
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,440
they're running around.
They're like, what's going on?

780
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,560
Well, they head to the library
and they find out that some

781
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:14,920
crazy man from 20 or 20 years
ago, comparison to how we would

782
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:20,520
perceive it, it'd be 4
generations behind, wrote down

783
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:24,000
in this library that they saw
this weird object just appear

784
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,600
and then disappear.
And that's what we did, right?

785
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:31,600
We, we, we put that the pen tip
on the Petri dish, watched how

786
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,400
the bacteria reacted to it and
we put it away.

787
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,320
Now they write down and they say
this happened, they appeared,

788
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,040
they disappeared.
The same stuff that we that we

789
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:46,480
see UF OS and UAP do all the
time and we see it in different

790
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:51,240
forms.
We can see it as a metallic disc

791
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,080
shaped object.
We could see it as a light, we

792
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:57,080
could see it as a cigar shaped.
We can see it as a big giant

793
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,880
triangle.
Tons of shit.

794
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:05,760
Now me as the scientist, I don't
have a way to communicate with

795
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,400
the bacteria.
OK?

796
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,920
I can't speak bacterium.
They can't speak English or

797
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,560
human, OK?
We don't have a way to

798
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,880
communicate.
The best way that I can talk to

799
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,040
them is by taking my tool and
seeing how they react and

800
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,240
building from there.
Now I take that tool and I'm

801
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,800
like, hey, I want to see how
they react if I move it a little

802
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,520
bit.
What does this look like to you

803
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:31,480
guys?
What would that look like to

804
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,080
bacteria movement?
It would look like a UAP, right?

805
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,320
If I took the my tool and
touched the the Petri dish and I

806
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:44,360
just went like this, it would
look like UAP does to us.

807
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,000
OK, this and I'm not going to go
any further than that, but there

808
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,840
is a lot more to talk about here
because I want to get back to

809
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,480
the episode.
But that is the ultra

810
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,880
terrestrial theory at its most
elementary point as said by John

811
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:02,240
Keel.
If you guys want a really good

812
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:05,680
deep dive into what he's talking
about, I highly recommend

813
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,800
Operation Trojan Horse.
That's the book where he really

814
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,280
dives into that.
But you can also look at the 8th

815
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,880
tower.
Even talks about it a little bit

816
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,360
in in Mothman Prophecies.
Shit, any book that he really

817
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:21,560
writes other than Jadu is
something where he will talk

818
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,520
about the ultra ultra
terrestrial theories.

819
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,000
What I've gathered is Jeremy now
thinks Galactus is poking us

820
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:28,600
with a pen.
I.

821
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,480
Don't know what that is.
Yes.

822
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:31,840
OK.
Thanks, Jake.

823
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,960
Yes.
What is that?

824
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:34,640
Fill me in.
Come on.

825
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,400
What is Galactus is an ultra
terrestrial that consumes

826
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,000
planets in the Marvel Universe.
Oh.

827
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,640
Yeah, I definitely didn't know
that I'm.

828
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,960
I'm the other kind of nerd.
So what do you guys think about

829
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,080
that?
He means dork, but.

830
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:52,560
Nothing.
Yes.

831
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,640
I I don't, I don't think, I
don't think there's some giant

832
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,440
being poking us with a pen.
It wouldn't be, it wouldn't even

833
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,320
have to be a giant being.
It's just be a being in another

834
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:06,000
dimension or you know, something
from a higher dimension.

835
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,240
I would say the 4th dimension,
right?

836
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:11,040
Just because we live in a
three-dimensional space, we live

837
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,320
in three dimensions of space, in
one dimension of time.

838
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,800
Time is not the 4th dimension.
It is just a dimension of a

839
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,800
separate category.
So we live in three dimensions

840
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,520
of space and one dimension of
time.

841
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:29,600
The 4th dimension of space.
The only shape that we can even

842
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,960
conceive, and we don't even know
if it's 100% right, is the

843
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,760
tesseract.
It's if you Google a tesseract

844
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,080
that is.
CJ, can you bring up a picture

845
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,800
of the Tesseract?
They definitely get something

846
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,760
from the Transformers movie when
I do this.

847
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:49,680
You will, but just just bring up
tesseract shape if you look at

848
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:55,200
it tesseract.
TESSERACT.

849
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,400
Another thing for the Marvel
movies.

850
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:04,120
Is it?
Yeah, yeah, There you go.

851
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,040
That's tesseract.
That that black and white one

852
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,040
right there is probably the best
way to kind of show the layman

853
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,160
what a tesseract it is in a
nutshell.

854
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:24,680
And even that that is there are
three-dimensional mind creating

855
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,000
a four dimensional object.
That's the best way that we can

856
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,320
do it.
That may not even be correct,

857
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,960
may it may not even be anywhere
near correct.

858
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,200
But mathematically, that's a
four dimensional object.

859
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Do you think it's just like
interdimensional, like trolls,

860
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,200
right?
Like this is their version of

861
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,560
cow tipping.
They're like, you guys want to

862
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,520
see something funny and they
just Blake Blip over here and

863
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,240
watch us scatter like roaches.
And then they go back and they

864
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:52,000
have a good game without it.
This is literally John Keel's

865
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,040
argument.
Literally.

866
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,360
No, I'm, I'm, I'm serious.
It's, it's, it's A and beyond

867
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,520
that, there's the cosmic
trickster theory, which is

868
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:08,000
almost a parallel explanation
of, of John Keel's ultra

869
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,840
terrestrial theory, just more of
jokesters and pranksters.

870
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,160
I mean, I mean, you guys know
that I'm a Christian guy and I

871
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,080
believe, I worship a God that I
believe is outside of our space

872
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,080
and time.
And what you could consider the

873
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,360
4th dimension or maybe the 50th
dimension, I don't know.

874
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,760
But it's outside of that.
And I also believe that there's

875
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,800
beings out there that are also
outside of that that transcend

876
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:37,680
maybe not can't look at time in
the same way the creator could

877
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,760
from, you know, where
everything's on the same, maybe

878
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,720
a loop where he could just see
it all at any point, like

879
00:51:43,720 --> 00:51:47,480
watching a ADVD or a VHS.
He could just skip, go forward

880
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,640
and go back and whatever he
wants to do at any point and see

881
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,400
everything that has ever
happened with any human being on

882
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:57,640
earth.
But that they would have a be

883
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:03,400
able to maybe go back and forth
or maybe they can just go

884
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,680
outside of our plane, but are on
the same time frame, but are

885
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,720
just, you know, eternal in the
sense that once they were

886
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,560
created, they can't be
uncreated.

887
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:18,440
So I mean, yes, I I to to a
limited amount of what you

888
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:19,960
talked about.
Yes, I agree.

889
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,080
I don't think that it would be
so much as a that God is

890
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,120
sticking his fingertip into our
sky and going like this, being

891
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,560
like woo Hoo, not to say he
couldn't if he didn't want to,

892
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:34,840
but I don't think that's the
point.

893
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,840
But then you know something to
what CJ said.

894
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,000
You know, an interdimensional
being just being like, Hey, you

895
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,200
want to go tip some cows?
Check this out.

896
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:47,880
Why couldn't the demons be doing
that to create confusion,

897
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,160
deception, fear, panic, things
like that in their cow tipping

898
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,480
sort of way in what we talk
about.

899
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,640
So yeah, I, I agree with with
what you're talking about now.

900
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,600
And I would say that Uaps are
interdimensional beings in that

901
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,160
sense, coming into our space
just to screw with us, then yes,

902
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,760
just.
You know, real quick question

903
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,080
for Jake real quick before you
get in there, Jeremy, just just

904
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,520
because I'm curious to to know
what you think.

905
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,280
So like as a reptile keeper,
right?

906
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:18,000
I have 14 lizards.
OK.

907
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,200
And you have a problem.
I I.

908
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,920
Is that what you wanted me to?
Say I don't have a problem.

909
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,520
Listen lot.
Of addicts say that I don't have

910
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,520
a problem, everyone else has a
problem.

911
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,400
I mean, it's fair.
I guess you could say I'm

912
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,520
addicted to reptiles.
I've been addicted since I was

913
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,840
four years old.
But anyway, each individual age,

914
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,720
right, is set up in a different
Biome relative to what that

915
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:45,960
specific lizard needs.
Yeah.

916
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:51,280
So do you think it's possible
that like, this dimension is our

917
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:55,280
enclosure and that God also has
other various enclosures where

918
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,800
he keeps different various sets
of beings?

919
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,280
And then every once in a while
you get those lizards that

920
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,720
figure out how to get the fuck
out of their cage and they go in

921
00:54:04,720 --> 00:54:07,400
somebody else's cage and it
causes problems and you got to

922
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,360
figure out what they're doing to
make them stop.

923
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,760
Like an octopus escaping its
aquarium and eating all the fish

924
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:13,720
in another one.
Yeah.

925
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:15,680
Right, right, right, right.
Do you think it's possible that

926
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,120
maybe God is doing something
like that?

927
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,280
Like, all right, I have humans
here and then I have whatever

928
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,560
this is over here and I have
this over there and I have that

929
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,120
over there.
And here's the dimension of

930
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,040
demons because I created them
for funsies or whatever it is

931
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,760
the reason that happened.
And like, you think that's

932
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,160
possible?
Or do you not subscribe to that

933
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,640
idea at all?
Certainly it could be possible,

934
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,760
but unless the disclosure
happens, who knows.

935
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,600
Well, we would never be able to
disclose that God.

936
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,320
God would have to come down
directly and be like, sit down,

937
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,760
President Trump.
And I swear, I swear, if God

938
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:49,480
came down and personally talked
to Trump and not the rest of us,

939
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:53,520
I'd be so upset.
Well, so upset, not necessarily

940
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:57,480
even that certainly it could be
possible that like you were just

941
00:54:58,240 --> 00:55:02,680
kind of theorizing there.
Yeah, I mean it, it could be

942
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:07,800
possible and it could be that
the demons are supposed to be in

943
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,200
their area, but as defiant
creatures.

944
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,360
And the reason why they are
considered demonic beings and

945
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,160
not angelic beings is because
they're prideful and fell with

946
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,120
Lucifer that they.
They either.

947
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,600
Say screw you, God, I don't care
what you have to say.

948
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,480
I'm going to do what I want
because that's the in their

949
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:30,000
nature to do so, because they're
already going to be damned for

950
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,240
eternity anyway, so why not just
do as much as chaos as they can

951
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:35,760
until that point happens, right?
Certainly that could be a thing,

952
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:40,800
or it could be the thing that
our universe, our solar system

953
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,520
or whatever it is, is our
terrarium and that there's other

954
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,240
terrariums out there and maybe
they have their form of Jesus

955
00:55:49,240 --> 00:55:51,200
and maybe they don't because
they never sinned.

956
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,720
Like who?
Who's to say, right?

957
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,760
But we won't know any of that
stuff unless that sort of

958
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,480
disclosure comes down because as
far as we know, yeah, the

959
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,280
government has UFOs and aliens
and things like that.

960
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,360
Or they could come out and
straight up say it be like, Oh

961
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,760
yeah, we're all in a demonic
death cult and we've been

962
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,360
talking to the demons and that's
how we have this technology.

963
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,520
It's not aliens.
It's, you know, interdimensional

964
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,240
beings that you would call,
they're called demons or we even

965
00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:18,960
call demons, but they're giving
us this information and this is

966
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,800
how we're able to make it
because they're telling us stuff

967
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,080
that are defy physics in this
universe that God wouldn't want

968
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,480
us to know.
But they're doing it anyway

969
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,440
because they don't care what God
has to say.

970
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,480
It could be that too.
It could be way on the left

971
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,480
field or way on the right field.
But unless disclosure happens,

972
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,440
we won't know either way and we
can just speculate.

973
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,960
And even if disclosure happens,
who says we believe it?

974
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,400
True, there is that too.
We definitely would not.

975
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,560
I would call bullshit
immediately because I was just

976
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,600
assuming anything they tell us
is bullshit because they don't

977
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,600
want us to know the.
Truth, but we know that from

978
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,400
like CERN, right?
They said that they were able to

979
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,600
Jeremy knows the quote because
he's really big into it, but

980
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,800
they were able to get
information from another

981
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,320
dimension right is basically
what they said paraphrasing.

982
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,760
What does that mean, right?
Is that does that mean that they

983
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:10,720
were in communication with other
dimensional beings or that they

984
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,680
they opened up a portal to
another dimension where they can

985
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,440
communicate with other
dimensional beings?

986
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,840
And then in that circumstance,
what does that mean for the

987
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:22,960
growth in technology?
And I don't know, was it

988
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,520
transhumanism and things like
that that happened?

989
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,320
Here, receiving data or
information could be anything

990
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,840
like they could have looked into
another dimension and took its

991
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,040
temperature and said we got.
It could be, you know, it could

992
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,920
be something mild and it could
be something out.

993
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,360
It was communication.
They didn't say like, they just

994
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:43,320
said very vaguely information.
Well, information.

995
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:45,640
Hired like particles of Morse
code into it, I mean.

996
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:48,120
Information can come from all
different sources.

997
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,000
Like you can get information
through video, you can get

998
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,720
information through speech,
through written form, through

999
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:54,800
sign language.
Like what?

1000
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Does that information look
great?

1001
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,840
The point I'm trying to make is
like that all that information

1002
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:04,360
you just listed is extremely
complicated forms of information

1003
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:07,440
where more than likely they
receive some extremely simple

1004
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,960
form like a temperature or a
single vibration or an

1005
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,600
electrical reading like they
didn't like could that would be,

1006
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,840
yeah.
Or like a brief blinking of

1007
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,480
light, you know, or something
like that.

1008
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,800
Could be, could be more like,
but unless they're willing to

1009
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,760
say that we can, we can
speculate, right?

1010
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,040
So it's just like, yeah, I don't
know.

1011
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,440
It could be a whole terrarium
setup.

1012
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,560
Two things.
One, the analogy of the pen

1013
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,440
moving around on the Petri dish.
I just want to be clear that

1014
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,480
that's not exactly what I think
is is what they're doing.

1015
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:50,720
I literally use the pen as an
analogy or a vehicle to portray

1016
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,640
the idea.
No, I get it.

1017
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,680
So.
I was just taking a stab at you.

1018
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:58,400
I just.
Yeah, yeah, No, I, I want to

1019
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,920
make sure that people that are
listening are also, you know,

1020
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:06,400
just understanding that it's,
I'm not saying that whoever they

1021
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:08,160
are are out there.
They're not.

1022
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:09,960
I'm not saying that they're
pranksters.

1023
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,560
I'm not saying that, you know,
it's a literal tool that they're

1024
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,840
trying to use.
It could literally be something

1025
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:22,000
that we cannot even comprehend
because it's not from our

1026
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,200
dimension.
The only UFOs look like what

1027
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:31,320
they do the the anomalous balls
of light or the the metallic

1028
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,840
objects during the day because
that's how we perceive it in our

1029
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:39,080
in our dimension.
But it's true, nature could be

1030
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,760
something.
We literally can't even create a

1031
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,520
concept.
The only problem that I would

1032
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:48,680
have with the example that you
gave, although it was a very

1033
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:54,360
good example, is that even the
bacteria, because we can look at

1034
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:59,040
like a tardigrade.
A tardigrade is as small as some

1035
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:03,240
types of bacteria, yet it still
exists in a three-dimensional

1036
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,720
form.
So they are not outside of that.

1037
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:11,360
So it would be way more
terrifying to have something

1038
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,400
because because think of it this
way.

1039
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,920
If they were able in the
bacteria form somehow and maybe

1040
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,480
they can through sneezes to
becomes, you know, join the

1041
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,640
space race with the rest of us,
you know, to where they're, you

1042
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:29,040
know, getting out of the Petri
dish and then going through the

1043
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,160
atmosphere in the air, I guess
in the form of a cough or

1044
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,800
sneeze.
They would then see the

1045
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,480
scientist in his office staring
at what they would consider to

1046
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,680
be their planet, messing around
with the Petri dish and seeing

1047
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:48,440
how they reacted.
And then even then they would

1048
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:53,120
have to deal at that point with
the idea that something comes

1049
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,520
from not space, that's, that's
looking into our world as if

1050
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,600
it's a Petri dish, but something
that's literally invisible

1051
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,680
because we can't see it because
on another dimensional plane.

1052
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:08,760
So they still exist in 3D, it's
just super limited, right?

1053
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:09,880
Because.
They're not fun.

1054
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,520
Right.
I'm sure they have some kind of

1055
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:12,800
mass.
If you could look at a

1056
01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:15,800
bacterium, I'm sure that there
there's an orb or something like

1057
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:20,760
that or sphere some kind, right?
Maybe it be so messed up.

1058
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,520
It's so crazy and messed up like
I.

1059
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,440
Literally can't create.
The best comprehended, right?

1060
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,760
I, I, I can't create a perfect
analogy.

1061
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,440
The best thing that I've ever
seen anybody create a perfect

1062
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,360
analogy of the point of view
from a from a lower dimension

1063
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,760
than the three dimensions is
this book right here and I

1064
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:48,840
highly recommend it.
It's called Flat Land by Edwin

1065
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:54,440
Abbott.
This book is an entire book

1066
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,960
story written from the
perspective of A2 dimensional.

1067
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,920
Incredible.
I have it here, Jake, if you

1068
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,800
ever want to borrow it.
Yeah, literally, It's mind

1069
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,280
blowing.
It's absolutely great book.

1070
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:14,920
And it was first published I
think in some like 1890s or

1071
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,920
something, late 1800s, maybe
even early 1900s.

1072
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,520
But this book is, it's
incredible.

1073
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,120
Like it because it's so funny,
because like, even, because I

1074
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,760
understand we've, like you said,
talked about this ad nauseam.

1075
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,640
Even the idea of like a piece of
paper, you know, existing in a

1076
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,160
2D space, it's like, OK, well,
the atoms in that piece of paper

1077
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,520
exist in the 3D space.
There's no way to actually

1078
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:45,080
portray this in a way visually
that would make sense, because

1079
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,040
we don't have anything that we
could show visually that would

1080
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,600
make sense.
Right.

1081
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,600
We we cannot create an actual,
we cannot create an actual 2

1082
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:57,760
dimensional world because the
tools that we use are

1083
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,280
three-dimensional tools.
So strange.

1084
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,320
What if it's more like a lake?
Right, right.

1085
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,800
Like we go to a lake, we throw
something in there, get

1086
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,440
officious attention, yank the
little bastard out of there, put

1087
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,720
our fingers in its orifices and
throw it back.

1088
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,240
True, we've done that.
We do put.

1089
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:15,440
Our fingers and orifices, yes.
Right, right.

1090
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,040
So they they throw something in
our dimension, get one of our

1091
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,520
attention, yank one of us out,
probe the living shit out of of

1092
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:25,800
us, and then throw us back.
I mean, that's also not a bad

1093
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,640
analogy that.
One's shiny, get his ass.

1094
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,440
They're lures are little grey
aliens and and instead of like

1095
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,680
getting our attention and us
attacking it, it's them coming

1096
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:43,760
to get us while we're sleeping.
Or we're standing in a field

1097
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,240
just staring at it.
I had a.

1098
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,480
Period of like 3 hours of
missing time.

1099
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,480
Maybe I got probed in in my
orifice or if I.

1100
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,280
You sound hopeful.
I don't know, you know, I'm a

1101
01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,160
scientist.
Hopefully, hopefully they kissed

1102
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,240
you at the end of the night.
Too.

1103
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,120
Yeah, right.
Jake, are you?

1104
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:04,840
Are you?
Familiar with the Betty and

1105
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:07,320
Barney Hill story, they had
missing time too.

1106
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:09,640
Yeah.
It's like a common theme.

1107
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:14,120
No, it's pretty common.
You're missing time has a common

1108
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:19,200
theme with between besides alien
sleep interactions, possession.

1109
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,600
Oh yeah, that's, that's true.
Yeah.

1110
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,160
I was also a terrible person at
the time, so that's probably

1111
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:24,800
likely as well.
I.

1112
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,880
Mean I wouldn't.
I wouldn't say no to that, which

1113
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,840
is a horrifying thought, but no,
it's something else taking over

1114
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,920
my body, my mind.
But yeah, that was a bad person.

1115
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,360
So I can see that I.
Was not necessarily

1116
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,560
specifically, I was talking
about the whole just missing

1117
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,120
time in general.
I cannot remember what the

1118
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,600
second thing I wanted to bring
up was, so I'm just going to

1119
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,120
skip it.
Cannot remember.

1120
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,680
Anyways, you guys ready for
briefing #3?

1121
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,880
We spent an hour.
On this conversation.

1122
01:04:57,720 --> 01:04:59,000
It was a good conversation.
It was good.

1123
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:06,040
All right, Briefing 3 On
February 25th, NASA released

1124
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:10,200
images from the James Webb Space
Telescope that are among the

1125
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:14,080
most stunning in otherworldly
photos the observatory has

1126
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,520
captured since it launched.
The subject is Nebula PMR one,

1127
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:23,160
nicknamed the Exposed Cranium,
and it looks exactly like what

1128
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:27,200
the name suggests, a human brain
suspended inside a transparent

1129
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,400
skull floating in the depths of
space.

1130
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:36,280
The nebula was first captured in
infrared over a decade ago by

1131
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,800
NASA's now retired Spitzer Space
Telescope.

1132
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:44,680
Spitzer scientist gave it the
Exposed Cranium nickname back in

1133
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:49,520
2013, but the image was blurry
and indistinct compared to what

1134
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,320
Webb just revealed.
Using two of its imaging

1135
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:59,280
instruments, Nearcam or Near
Infrared Camera and Miri or Mid

1136
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:04,240
Infrared instrument, the James
Webb Space Telescope captured

1137
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:09,960
the nebula in exquisite high
resolution detail and the brain

1138
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:15,520
like appearance is unmistakable.
According to NASA, the nebula

1139
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,960
has distinct regions that
capture different phases of its

1140
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,960
evolution.
There's an outer shell of gas

1141
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:26,360
that that was blown off first,
consisting mostly of hydrogen,

1142
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,080
and there's an inner cloud with
more structure that contains a

1143
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,760
mix of different gases.
But the most striking feature is

1144
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,920
a dark vertical lane running
through the middle of the

1145
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:40,280
nebula.
It divides it into a left and

1146
01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,600
right hemisphere, exactly like a
human brain.

1147
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,320
NASA says this dark lane is
likely the result of an outburst

1148
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,520
or outflow from the central
star.

1149
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:54,720
Stars near the end of their life
cycle often eject material in

1150
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,760
twin jets bursting out in
opposite direction.

1151
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,440
That's what appears to be
happening here.

1152
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,480
The nebula surrounds a dying
star, and we're watching it shed

1153
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:09,800
its outer layers in a dynamic,
relatively rapid process.

1154
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:15,360
On cosmic time scales, at least.
Now, here's where this gets

1155
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,520
interesting.
Beyond just the visuals, the

1156
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,920
release of these images has
revitalized what's called the

1157
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:27,160
biocosm theory, the idea that
the universe itself functions

1158
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:32,040
like a biological Organism.
This isn't a new concept.

1159
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,720
Philosophers and scientists have
speculated for decades about

1160
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,160
whether the cosmos exhibits
lifelike properties.

1161
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,640
But images like this, showing a
nebula that looks disturbingly

1162
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:48,160
similar to a human brain, add
fuel to the conversation.

1163
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:53,960
The Biocosm theory suggests that
the universe might not just

1164
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:58,120
contain life, it might actually
be alive.

1165
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,320
The Galaxy, stars and cosmic
structures could operate like

1166
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:06,480
cells, neurons or organs in a
vast interconnected living

1167
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,560
system.
Some proponents point to the

1168
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,760
large scale structure of the
universe, which resembles neural

1169
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:17,240
networks when you zoom out far
enough, filaments of Galaxy

1170
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,560
stretching across the cosmos,
connected by dark matter,

1171
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:24,479
forming patterns that look
remarkably like the synaptic

1172
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,960
connections in a brain.
Others argue that consciousness

1173
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,399
itself might be a fundamental
property of the universe.

1174
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,439
That's something that emerges
only in biological organisms,

1175
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,920
but something woven into the
fabric of reality at a cosmic

1176
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:41,960
scale.
Now, mainstream astrophysicist

1177
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:47,160
would say that the resemblance
between the nebula and a brain

1178
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:51,279
is just pareidolia, our tendency
to see familiar patterns in

1179
01:08:51,319 --> 01:08:54,080
random structures.
The universe isn't designed,

1180
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,760
it's not alive, it's just
physics playing out over

1181
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,359
billions of years.
But for those in the

1182
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:03,279
consciousness research
community, this image is more

1183
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,960
than just a coincidence.
There's a growing body of

1184
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,479
research exploring the
connection between quantum

1185
01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:11,680
mechanics, consciousness, and
the nature of reality.

1186
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:14,479
As we've mentioned in a recent
episode, there are some

1187
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,439
physicists who argue that
consciousness might arise from

1188
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,439
the quantum processes in the
brain.

1189
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,120
Others suggest that
consciousness could be a

1190
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,520
property of the quantum vacuum
itself, the zero point field

1191
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:28,880
that permeates all of space.
If that's true, then maybe the

1192
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:32,200
universe isn't just a collection
of dead matter governed by

1193
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,880
mechanical laws.
Maybe it's something more.

1194
01:09:35,319 --> 01:09:38,520
Maybe it's aware.
The exposed cranium nebula

1195
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:43,040
doesn't prove any of this, but
it raises the question why does

1196
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,399
a cloud of gas and dust formed
by a dying star millions of

1197
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:51,399
light years away look exactly
like the organ we use to

1198
01:09:51,399 --> 01:09:56,040
perceive reality?
Is it just a cosmic coincidence,

1199
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:58,920
or is the universe showing us
something about itself?

1200
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,160
Webb's observations capture a
precise moment in this star's

1201
01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:05,800
decline.
Depending on its mass, it will

1202
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,320
either end in a supernova
explosion or continue shedding

1203
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:13,760
layers until only a dense white
dwarf core remains, cooling

1204
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,680
slowly over billions of years.
But the image itself, this brain

1205
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,160
shaped structure floating in
space, will likely outlive our

1206
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:25,600
current understanding of what
consciousness is and where it

1207
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,120
comes from.
So, Jake CJ, what do you think?

1208
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,880
Is this just pareidolia or is
there something deeper going on

1209
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,600
when we see these kinds of
patterns in the cosmos?

1210
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,600
Fight for who goes first.
I really don't want it to be

1211
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:43,760
something deeper because when,
when you look at that theory,

1212
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:48,080
like even deeper into it, like
they say that like, I think it's

1213
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,320
like galaxies behave like
synapses, right?

1214
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:55,520
Solar systems are like a cell or
whatever, and or like planets

1215
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,240
are like a cell.
I forget exactly how it's set

1216
01:10:57,240 --> 01:10:59,040
up.
But I do remember reading that

1217
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,040
in the event that that is like
that Earth and with us

1218
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,320
specifically is cancer.
We, we, we, we behave exactly

1219
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,840
like a cancer cell.
And I mean, it really everything

1220
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,200
they're talking about is that
whole concept of like, as above,

1221
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,320
so below, it's the microcosm
versus the macrocosm.

1222
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:20,280
And, and the microcosm will
always mimic the macrocosm on

1223
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,440
some level or, or vice versa.
And it's all very, very strange.

1224
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:29,680
And I I would find it very
difficult to believe that the

1225
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:35,040
universe itself is a is alive
but but like a space that

1226
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,640
contains life would make more
sense to me.

1227
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:41,440
I don't know if that makes sense
what I'm trying to say.

1228
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,320
It does, Jake, what you got?
You look like you got a Facebook

1229
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,640
going on.
I'm on NASA's website right now

1230
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,280
and I'm trying to figure out why
the colors are different from

1231
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:56,360
when it was first exposed or
when it's first seen versus now,

1232
01:11:56,440 --> 01:11:57,960
and I found those.
Pictures are fake.

1233
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:02,000
Well, and that's what that's
what Jeff's always saying here.

1234
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:04,800
Let me let me show you guys what
I'm looking at.

1235
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:10,800
So this is this is
science.nasa.gov and if you go

1236
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,080
into it's.
Showing us black.

1237
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:18,640
Oh, there it goes, now loaded.
If you go into the images on

1238
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:23,640
here, you can have all this
information as far as the image

1239
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,920
itself.
This is image was created with

1240
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:32,320
web data from Proposal 9224 M
Garcia, Mark Marin.

1241
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,080
You can click on that and it
will get you information on who

1242
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:42,040
exactly were the individuals
that looked into this sort of

1243
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:43,640
stuff.
So you can you can scroll

1244
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,840
through all this data and this
information and see if it makes

1245
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:50,840
sense to anybody.
But the the thing was, Jeff was

1246
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:54,640
always saying that, you know,
these are these are.

1247
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,640
Paint by numbers.
Painted right paint by numbers

1248
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,840
and so I'm getting into here and
you can go downloads for the

1249
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:05,680
full res image and you can click
that and it will go into, you

1250
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,280
know, basically like this is the
blurry picture and this is when

1251
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:12,600
it's high def.
But then coming down here

1252
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:18,240
there's where was it?
There's a video I was just

1253
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:22,080
looking at a video of.
I saw you scroll past it on that

1254
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:24,320
very first page you showed us
when you first loaded the

1255
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,520
screen, it has a Big Blue
letter, said Videos.

1256
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,560
Right, yeah, I don't know where
it went now they're I'm on to

1257
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:35,040
them, so they're hiding it.
But basically it was a video.

1258
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,080
It was showing the original
images.

1259
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:42,800
Maybe it's this guy, the
original images and then where

1260
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,960
they are now.
And I'm wondering why it's such

1261
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,120
a is this it?
Yeah, this original observations

1262
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,120
and then now.
And it's like, why such a

1263
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:57,680
drastic coloration change?
Like all that stuff that was on

1264
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,200
the outside is gone and stuff.
And it's like, oh, it's because

1265
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,360
it was blurry.
And it's like, yeah, I get it,

1266
01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,640
but.
I mean, it kind of looks like a

1267
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,040
brain, but it also kind of looks
like a set of lungs.

1268
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:13,480
Well, I'm not, I'm not.
I I think that the universe is

1269
01:14:13,480 --> 01:14:17,120
pretty much like a fractal, like
in the same way you'll see like

1270
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:20,360
a certain types of ferns and
it's like the shape of them.

1271
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,600
It's kind of like a triangle and
each like leaflet is a triangle.

1272
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,720
Golden ratio.
You know, getting down into it

1273
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:31,600
and stuff like that.
In the same way I've discussed

1274
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:37,680
it might have been the IT might
have been the debate argument

1275
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:43,000
fight Jeremy and I had with the
stone ape theory where I might

1276
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:44,680
have said it or maybe it was
somewhere else.

1277
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:48,520
But that you know, why is it
that our hand, you know, 5

1278
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:53,800
fingers looks like a hand and
then a whale's hand also, you

1279
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,000
know, or whales flipper also
looks like a hand.

1280
01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:03,280
So, and I think it's because the
creator use the same code for

1281
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:06,160
everything in the same way.
And I, I heard this recently

1282
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:10,080
from Kent Hovind, he says, you
know, if you looked at Microsoft

1283
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:14,760
Office and Microsoft Excel and
Microsoft PowerPoint, I bet you,

1284
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:20,440
if you looked inside the code
for these three different, you

1285
01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:24,120
know, programs that the code
would be pretty Dang similar.

1286
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,200
And that's because it was
created by the same company.

1287
01:15:27,480 --> 01:15:31,080
He's like, in the same way he's
like I have, he said, I have

1288
01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:34,640
4000 books in my library and
they all use the same 26

1289
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:35,880
letters, right?
Why?

1290
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,360
Why?
Because they're, they're written

1291
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:41,000
in English, because they're
written by the same people,

1292
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,600
right?
Or the same, they're using the

1293
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:46,200
same code to write these books
in the same way it would be for

1294
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,040
any other language.
They'd still use the same

1295
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:52,400
characters even if the ideas of
this book, this is it's about

1296
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:55,760
history and this is science
fiction and this is fantasy and

1297
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,120
this is non fiction and this is,
you know, all these other

1298
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:01,040
things.
This is history of, you know,

1299
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:05,160
ancient Egypt and this is
history of, you know, black

1300
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,240
history and and you know, all
that sort of stuff.

1301
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:10,520
But they all have the same code
to them in the same way you have

1302
01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,640
all these animals that have the
same DNA, you know, although in

1303
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,320
different forms.
But then you also see, you know,

1304
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:21,920
similarities between my hand and
the bones in a whale's flipper,

1305
01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:23,680
right?
Because it's all the same thing.

1306
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,920
So why is that to say that our
brain the most, if the the

1307
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,280
biggest issue the scientists
have is like, how does the brain

1308
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:34,840
actually work?
How does consciousness happen?

1309
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:36,000
You know, all these sorts of
things.

1310
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:41,040
But it's like the most marvelous
thing that we have in existence

1311
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,880
here.
That's natural.

1312
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:48,320
But then you come way outside of
just this, going back to the

1313
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:53,360
original point in our 3D space
and get outside of that and then

1314
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:56,000
into the next terrarium, so to
speak.

1315
01:16:56,240 --> 01:17:00,440
And you see a similar sort of
shape and things like that.

1316
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,560
And is it because that, you
know, we're all connected in

1317
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:09,480
some sort of, you know, like
cosmic thought or something like

1318
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,120
that?
Or it could it be because

1319
01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:15,240
whoever created it just use the
same design a bunch of times

1320
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,440
Because why reinvent it?
If you're going to make a new

1321
01:17:17,440 --> 01:17:21,280
car, I guarantee you would have
some form of wheels and an

1322
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,400
engine.
You wouldn't start from complete

1323
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,600
scratch, bone bear scratch to to
do the next thing.

1324
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,760
You'd use the building blocks
you already had, you know?

1325
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,680
You're already active and they
you already know they work.

1326
01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,800
Right.
And so it's like, I think that I

1327
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,800
think that there's a lot more
parallels like that that we

1328
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,720
could get into and just, you
know, why are we so similar to

1329
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,960
primates?
Well, why not, right.

1330
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:51,080
It's, and you could say, well,
we're not similar to birds.

1331
01:17:51,080 --> 01:17:53,840
And yeah, you're right.
But we still have brains and

1332
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,600
lungs and hearts and guts and
like all these sorts of things.

1333
01:17:57,760 --> 01:17:59,520
It's like we just don't look the
same.

1334
01:17:59,680 --> 01:18:02,480
Our outer dermis doesn't look
the same as birds.

1335
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:04,600
Our bone structure doesn't look
the same as birds.

1336
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,280
But when you get down to it, we
still have the same organs.

1337
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,080
Meow, you know.
It makes a lot of sense.

1338
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:11,600
You know, I think.
Especially with the hand thing

1339
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:14,520
you said, because like as
humans, like we rely on

1340
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,200
manipulating objects in order to
survive.

1341
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:22,520
So having four fingers and a
thumb is like the ideal way of

1342
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:24,520
being able to do.
That's why we don't have three

1343
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:26,520
fingers and a thumb.
Because you know, there are

1344
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,280
people that are born with three
fingers and a thumb and they

1345
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:32,160
struggle to do some of the stuff
that we do with four fingers and

1346
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,440
a thumb, right?
So what what you're saying makes

1347
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:40,000
sense, like the whale having
like the fins with the the same

1348
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:42,160
kind of structure within that in
that fin.

1349
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:43,760
Well, they don't need to
manipulate objects.

1350
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:47,560
They need to move water.
So even though it's a similar

1351
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:49,880
structure, it does the different
things they don't need.

1352
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,480
Like, see, no, what?
What you're saying makes a lot

1353
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:57,240
of sense is the point of SO.
I think that I like when science

1354
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:01,760
can get into other realms that
were previously unexplored or

1355
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:06,080
untouched by us, whether that's
the depths of the ocean or that

1356
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,440
goes into space or, you know,
whatever that looks like.

1357
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:13,040
Because for me, every time a
discovery like this happens for

1358
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,440
me, in my brain, it says, this
is the marvelousness of the

1359
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:20,000
creator and the creation that
he's given us.

1360
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:24,480
And I can see his thumbprint and
everything that he did because

1361
01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:27,760
of the way he made it and how
similar it is to other things.

1362
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,120
And in some ways, another person
might look at that and be like,

1363
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:35,600
look at the way that we evolved
to to parallel the thing that we

1364
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:38,600
evolved from, right.
And it's like, yeah, I mean, I

1365
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,240
guess I could see it from that
perspective, but it just

1366
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:44,800
doesn't, you know, the, the
beginning of everything doesn't

1367
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,680
make any sense to me, but I, I
like it.

1368
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,080
I mean, I, I think that it's
pretty cool that it looks like a

1369
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,160
brain, you know, but I know that
the Milky Way Galaxy doesn't

1370
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:58,320
look like a brain, but it sure
as heck looks like a big old

1371
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:03,520
atom, you know?
So, you know, you know, maybe a

1372
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,520
more advanced atom than, you
know, maybe a carbon atom or an

1373
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:08,640
oxygen atom, but it sure does
look like 1.

1374
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:10,760
And it's like, well, why is
that?

1375
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:12,920
Is it because everything evolved
from?

1376
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:18,800
That point or is it because it's
the same shape or the same

1377
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:23,120
design in just different forms
and different functions created

1378
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,480
by the being that that said, and
this is this is the way it's

1379
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:29,400
going to be, you know?
Yeah, See, there you go.

1380
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,600
I wouldn't even look at the
picture you brought up, but

1381
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,520
that's exactly it.
I mean, the solar system looks

1382
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:35,680
like an atom.
The Milky Way Galaxy looks like

1383
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:40,120
a gigantic atom, right?
And it's just like, why couldn't

1384
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:45,240
it be the exact same?
You know look because it serves

1385
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:49,160
in some ways the same function.
Yeah, I mean, we, we see.

1386
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:50,720
Maybe the universe is like that
too.

1387
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:52,480
Or maybe the universe looks like
a big brain.

1388
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,480
Maybe.
And then the, the, you know,

1389
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,920
whatever the things inside of
our brain that control thought

1390
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:02,440
and all that sort of stuff and,
and movement and, and you know,

1391
01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:04,600
you're blinking, you're
breathing, everything like that.

1392
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:09,480
Those are the different galaxies
or the universes inside.

1393
01:21:09,480 --> 01:21:14,040
You know, all that sort of stuff
is just the big, big function of

1394
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,120
the big brain, right?
It all works together in a way

1395
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,640
we couldn't possibly comprehend
because we can't get there to

1396
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,160
observe it.
Is what some of the theories

1397
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:25,920
think that they think that the
universe itself is a giant brain

1398
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,600
and all these different like
solar systems and galaxies one

1399
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:30,360
that are the individual
synapses.

1400
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,560
Right.
Because because they behave

1401
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,080
like, I guess like the galaxies
or whatever behave exactly like

1402
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,800
brain synapses do or something
like that.

1403
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:41,200
I forget.
I forget which if like, or if

1404
01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:43,400
it's like neurons, I forget
exactly how it is.

1405
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:44,640
But yeah, that's like the
theory.

1406
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,680
When like what is what is a the
brain synapses, what are they

1407
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,200
made of?
I mean made of cells, right?

1408
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,120
And so if you can get down and
down and down and down and down

1409
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,080
to where you're looking at
atoms, you could look at the

1410
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,840
same thing for the entirety of
the universe.

1411
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,880
If it if we end up getting to
that point where we can observe

1412
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,720
somehow the outside of it and
say, oh, it looks like a big

1413
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,920
brain.
And then you get down and down

1414
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:14,600
and down and down and down until
the atoms are the solar systems.

1415
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:18,600
There's this, there's this line
of science that looks at things.

1416
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:22,440
We're like matter doesn't
actually exist, right?

1417
01:22:22,440 --> 01:22:27,240
Like we are atoms, like those
particles aren't physical

1418
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,800
matter.
They're particles that vibrate

1419
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,880
at different frequencies that
allow it to imitate what matter

1420
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,800
would be.
So then we have like these

1421
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,640
different states of matter,
gases, liquid solids, it's not

1422
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,240
actually existing.
It's just particles that vibrate

1423
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,640
at the right frequency that
allow it to imitate what those

1424
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,080
things would be and allow us to
interact with that.

1425
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,000
And they can do it in complex
forms, which gives us life and

1426
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:53,800
all kinds of stuff.
And at that rate?

1427
01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,200
It's way, way deeper than.
That at that rate, it's exactly

1428
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,040
what we're talking about.
They're just called it different

1429
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,840
things.
It's like saying.

1430
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:00,800
Yeah.
No, no, you're right.

1431
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:02,120
I'm just.
It's like saying the theory of

1432
01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:05,920
of gravity is just a theory.
OK, well, I'm still being held

1433
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:08,000
to my seat, so.
And they're just like, well,

1434
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:09,320
it's just not called that.
It's like.

1435
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,120
Right, right.
Well, I mean what you're saying

1436
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,840
it's like none of this actually
exists.

1437
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,920
It's just particles that vibrate
correctly and it like it's all

1438
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:25,480
an imitation of what we perceive
as existence.

1439
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,480
All I'm saying, all right, guys
ready to move on.

1440
01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:29,720
I get to heaven.
I got a lot of questions because

1441
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,640
I'm a very curious person and I
really want to see what it all

1442
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,400
looks like from the outside.
I'd like to sit in on that

1443
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:36,720
conversation.
Just listen.

1444
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,640
What's up with teeth?
What's going on, man?

1445
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,280
Youth all throughout their
entire life and we get 2 sets.

1446
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,160
What's up with that?
We're doing all this stuff down

1447
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,280
here and you gave us the
dirtiest mouths.

1448
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,920
Things got venom.
We're just dirty.

1449
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,720
OK, Yeah.
Thanks.

1450
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,240
Thanks.
We're we are an hour and a half

1451
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,960
in and we have not started the
deep dive yet, so let's go ahead

1452
01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:03,720
and get that knocked out.
All right.

1453
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,000
All right guys, Yep, this is a
good episode so far.

1454
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:08,400
I like this.
I agree.

1455
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,760
The leg is sticking out there.
All right, now that C JS leg is

1456
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,320
taken care of, we've arrived at
the deep dive.

1457
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,640
And this week we're talking
about something that just

1458
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:22,000
dropped a few days ago from when
this is recorded.

1459
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:26,200
Of course.
On February 25th, 2026, a

1460
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,240
researcher affiliated with the
Autonomous University of

1461
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:33,520
Barcelona has published a paper
arguing that the Great Pyramids

1462
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:38,480
of Giza weren't built by the
ancient Egyptians.

1463
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:42,360
He claims they're 12,000 years
old, constructed by a lost super

1464
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:45,760
civilization with advanced
technology that we still don't

1465
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:50,280
understand.
His name is Antonio Ambrosio and

1466
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:55,520
he is an independent researcher
whose paper has not yet been

1467
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:59,840
peer reviewed, but it's already
making waves in the alternative

1468
01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,400
history community and sparking
debates among mainstream

1469
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:06,440
Egyptologists.
So let's break this down.

1470
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:10,680
What's the claim, what's the
evidence, and what does it mean?

1471
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,560
If he's right?
Ambrosio's central claim is

1472
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,360
this.
The three main pyramids at Giza,

1473
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:22,880
the Great Pyramid of Khufu, the
Pyramid of Khafre, and the

1474
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:30,320
Pyramid of Menkaowre were not
built around 2600 BC by the 4th

1475
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:34,360
dynasty Pharaohs.
Instead, he argues, they were

1476
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:39,520
constructed around 12,000 years
ago, long before the rise of

1477
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:43,920
Egypt's dynastic civilization in
3100 BC.

1478
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:47,840
That timeline places their
construction at the end of the

1479
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:52,040
last Ice Age, a period when
mainstream archaeology says

1480
01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,600
humans were still hunter
gatherers living in small tribal

1481
01:25:55,600 --> 01:26:00,480
groups with no cities, no
writing and no advanced

1482
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:03,640
technology.
But Ambrosio says the evidence

1483
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:06,640
suggests otherwise.
He argues that the pyramids show

1484
01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:10,960
levels of engineering precision
that later Egyptian builders

1485
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,640
never matched.
And he claims the Egyptians

1486
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,640
didn't build the pyramids.
They discovered them,

1487
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,280
appropriated them, and tried to
replicate them.

1488
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:24,560
Let's start with the
engineering.

1489
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,440
The Great Pyramid of Giza is one
of the most precisely

1490
01:26:28,440 --> 01:26:31,040
constructed buildings in human
history.

1491
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:34,440
The base is almost perfectly
level.

1492
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:40,200
We're talking about a margin of
error of a less than 2cm across

1493
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,440
a base that's over 230 meters
wide.

1494
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:48,880
That's absurdly accurate even by
modern construction standards.

1495
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,240
And when you take the idea of
the ground slowly eroding below

1496
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:56,000
it over thousands of years, the
thought that it may have once

1497
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:00,880
sat absolutely perfectly level
is very believable.

1498
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:03,680
The stones are cut with
incredible position.

1499
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,680
The blocks fit together so
tightly that you can't slide a

1500
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,920
piece of paper between them.
In many places, no mortar was

1501
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:15,600
used in the core structure.
The way the stones alone holds

1502
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,640
it together.
And the pyramid is aligned to

1503
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:23,840
true north with an accuracy of
115th of a degree, the kind of

1504
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:28,000
astronomical precision that
requires sophisticated surveying

1505
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:31,920
tools and a deep understanding
of celestial mechanics.

1506
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:36,560
Now, mainstream Egyptologists
say the ancient Egyptians had

1507
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,160
these skills.
They point to evidence of copper

1508
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:41,960
tools, ramps and organizational
capacity.

1509
01:27:42,480 --> 01:27:46,320
They argue that the 4th Dynasty
builders were highly advanced

1510
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:49,720
for their time and fully capable
of constructing the pyramids

1511
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,240
using the technology available
to them.

1512
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,280
But Ambrosio asks, if the
Egyptians built the Great

1513
01:27:56,280 --> 01:28:01,120
Pyramid around 2600 BC, why
didn't they ever replicate that

1514
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:04,280
level of precision?
The pyramids built after the

1515
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:09,680
Fork dynasty are smaller, less
precise, and in many cases they

1516
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,200
collapsed or deteriorated much
faster.

1517
01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,960
The Pyramid of Joser, which is
considered earlier than Giza in

1518
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,880
the conventional timeline, is a
step pyramid made of smaller

1519
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:25,800
stones with much less precision.
Ambrosio argues this pattern

1520
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,040
doesn't make sense if Egyptian
engineers was steadily

1521
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:33,080
improving.
Instead, he says, it looks like

1522
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,680
the Egyptians were trying to
copy something they found and

1523
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,640
failed to match the original.
Here's another key piece of

1524
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,680
Ambrosio's argument.
No mummies have ever been found

1525
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:46,680
in three main pyramids at Giza.
The Giza pyramids are all

1526
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,880
traditionally believed to be
royal tombs.

1527
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:54,400
Kufu, Khafre and Macore were
Fourth Dynasty Pharaohs, and the

1528
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:59,280
pyramids were named after them,
but no royal burial has ever

1529
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:00,960
been discovered inside any of
them.

1530
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,360
In the Great Pyramid, there's an
empty stone sarcophagus in the

1531
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:09,800
King's chamber, but no mummy, no
burial goods, no inscriptions

1532
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:11,640
indicating it was used as a
tomb.

1533
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,280
Ambrosio says this is
significant.

1534
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:18,360
He argues that the discovery of
an empty sarcophagus it doesn't

1535
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:22,360
prove Khufku built the pyramid,
it only proves that Khufu

1536
01:29:22,760 --> 01:29:25,600
claimed it.
And there's precedent for this.

1537
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:29,480
Throughout history, rulers have
appropriated ancient structures

1538
01:29:29,480 --> 01:29:31,120
and attached their names to
them.

1539
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,880
Roman emperors did it.
Medieval kings did it.

1540
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:37,360
Why wouldn't the Egyptian
Pharaohs now?

1541
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:41,280
Mainstream Egyptologists counter
this point by pointing to

1542
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,680
hieroglyphs found in a hidden
chamber inside the Great

1543
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:47,520
Pyramid.
The markings include what

1544
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,200
appears to be Khufu's name.
Most scholars consider this

1545
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,600
evidence that Khufu commissioned
the construction, but some

1546
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,120
researchers dispute the
authenticity of those

1547
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,240
hieroglyphs.
They claim the markings were

1548
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:03,360
added in the 19th century by
explorers or forgers trying to

1549
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,200
prove the pyramids connection to
Khufu.

1550
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,960
Ambrosio cites this debate as
evidence that the written proof

1551
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:12,560
of construction is lacking.
Ambrosio also points to the

1552
01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:15,800
Great Sphinx of Giza as
supporting evidence for his

1553
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,560
timeline.
The Sphinx is traditionally

1554
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:23,880
dated to around 2500 BC, roughly
the same period as the pyramids.

1555
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,080
But geologists have noted
something unusual about the

1556
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,360
erosion patterns on the Sphinx.
The body of the Sphinx shows

1557
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:34,440
signs of water erosion, vertical
fissures caused by heavy rain.

1558
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:37,560
Here's the problem.
Egypt has been an arid desert

1559
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:41,160
for thousands of years.
It hasn't experienced that kind

1560
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:44,560
of sustained heavy rainfall
needed to cause a type of

1561
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:47,800
erosion since roughly 5 to 3000
BC.

1562
01:30:48,480 --> 01:30:52,360
And even that's debated.
If the Sphinx was built around

1563
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:57,280
2500 BC, as the conventional
timeline suggests, it shouldn't

1564
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:01,360
show water erosion.
The climate was already dry by

1565
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:03,960
then.
But if the Sphinx, and by

1566
01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,960
extension the pyramids, were
built during a wetter period,

1567
01:31:07,480 --> 01:31:10,640
that pushes the construction
date back thousands of years,

1568
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:16,240
possibly to a time when the
Sahara was in a desert, a time

1569
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,560
when the region had rivers,
lakes and rainfall.

1570
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:23,560
Ambrosio argues this is
consistent with a 12,000 year

1571
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,200
old construction date.
That timeline places the Sphinx

1572
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:29,560
and the pyramids in a period
when the climate was very

1573
01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:31,800
different.
Mainstream archaeologists

1574
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,320
counter that the erosion could
be caused by wind, sand and

1575
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,960
other environmental factors over
millennia.

1576
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,240
They argue that water erosion
isn't the only explanation.

1577
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,600
But that debate continues.
Now let's talk about the

1578
01:31:44,600 --> 01:31:47,960
mythology.
In ancient Egyptian texts,

1579
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:53,440
there's a concept called Zep
tepee, or the first time.

1580
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:58,600
It's described as a golden age
before human rule, a time when

1581
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,960
gods walked the earth and great
works were accomplished.

1582
01:32:02,320 --> 01:32:06,800
Some fringe historians argued
that Zetepe isn't mythology,

1583
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,200
it's history.
They claim it refers to a real

1584
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:13,920
period roughly 12,000 years ago
when an advanced civilization

1585
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,120
existed.
The civilization that built

1586
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,800
monumental structures, possessed
advanced knowledge of

1587
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:24,840
mathematics and astronomy, and
then disappeared, possibly due

1588
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,400
to a cataclysmic event.
This ties into the broader

1589
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:32,440
theory of a lost super
civilization, sometimes called

1590
01:32:32,440 --> 01:32:37,680
Atlantis, sometimes referred to
as a pre diluvian culture that

1591
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:41,720
predates recorded history.
Ambrosio connects the pyramids

1592
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:45,200
to this idea.
He suggests they weren't built

1593
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,320
by the Egyptians.
They were built by whoever came

1594
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:53,440
before, and the Egyptians
inherited them, claimed them,

1595
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:56,160
and wove them into their own
mythology.

1596
01:32:56,320 --> 01:32:58,920
And here's where things get even
more interesting.

1597
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,040
In early 2025, Italian
researchers led by Corrado

1598
01:33:03,040 --> 01:33:08,120
Malenga from the University of
Pisa and Filippo Biondi from the

1599
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:12,880
University of Strathclyde
announced they had discovered

1600
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:19,120
what they described as a massive
underground network beneath the

1601
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:23,480
Giza pyramids.
Using synthetic aperture radar,

1602
01:33:23,480 --> 01:33:26,640
or SAR.
Combined with satellite data,

1603
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:30,320
they claimed to have detected
structures more than 2000 feet

1604
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:34,560
beneath the surface.
They reported finding 8 vertical

1605
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:40,280
cylindrical shafts surrounded by
spiral pathways connecting to

1606
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:45,280
large cubic chambers.
Above these they say there are 5

1607
01:33:45,280 --> 01:33:48,920
multi level structures linked by
passageways.

1608
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,760
The team described it as a vast
subterranean complex,

1609
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,640
potentially as large as the
pyramids themselves.

1610
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,240
Now this claim is highly
controversial.

1611
01:33:59,480 --> 01:34:03,280
The research hasn't been peer
reviewed, and many experts have

1612
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:07,640
pushed back hard.
Professor Lawrence Conyers, a

1613
01:34:07,640 --> 01:34:10,280
radar specialist from the
University of Denver, said it's

1614
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:14,320
not possible for SAR technology
to penetrate that deeply into

1615
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:16,680
solid rock.
He called the underground city

1616
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:24,120
claim a huge exaggeration.
Dr. Zahi Mawas, Egypt's former

1617
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:27,920
minister of antiquities,
dismissed the findings entirely,

1618
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:32,520
calling them completely wrong
and saying the techniques used

1619
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:35,840
were neither scientifically
approved nor validated.

1620
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,120
But here's why it's relevant to
Ambrosio's theory.

1621
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:44,360
If there are structures beneath
the pyramids, even if they're

1622
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:48,040
not as massive as the Italian
team claims, it raises the

1623
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:51,760
question why would ancient
builders construct an elaborate

1624
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,160
underground system beneath
monuments that were supposedly

1625
01:34:56,160 --> 01:35:00,040
just tombs?
Ambrosio and other alternative

1626
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:04,240
historians argue that this fits
the pattern of a much older,

1627
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,840
more complex site.
They suggest the pyramids might

1628
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:09,560
not have been standalone
structures.

1629
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,080
They might have been part of a
larger architectural plan, one

1630
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:17,160
that included subterranean
chambers, water systems and

1631
01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,440
features we haven't fully
discovered yet.

1632
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:22,680
Some researchers have even
speculated that these

1633
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:25,880
underground structures could be
connected to the legendary Hall

1634
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:29,440
of Records, a mythical chamber
said to contain the knowledge of

1635
01:35:29,440 --> 01:35:32,320
a lost civilization.
Whether the Italian teams

1636
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,480
findings hold up under scrutiny,
that remains to be seen.

1637
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,680
But the fact that ground
penetrating technology is

1638
01:35:38,680 --> 01:35:43,320
revealing something beneath Giza
suggests there's more to the

1639
01:35:43,320 --> 01:35:45,560
site than what's visible on the
surface.

1640
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:50,960
And if Ambrosio is right, the
pyramids are 12,000 years old,

1641
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,280
then these underground
structures could predate the

1642
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,240
pyramids themselves.
They could be the foundation of

1643
01:35:57,240 --> 01:36:00,920
something much older.
There's also evidence of similar

1644
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:04,240
megalithic structures around the
world that show comparable

1645
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:08,960
engineering precision.
Sakase Weihoan in Peru and

1646
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:13,520
Baalbek in Lebanon.
These sites feature enormous,

1647
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:18,120
precisely cut stone blocks that
seem to defy the technological

1648
01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:21,160
capabilities of the cultures
that are credited with building

1649
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:24,720
them.
Ambrosio and other alternative

1650
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,640
historians argue that this
points to a global network of

1651
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:32,400
advanced builders, a lost
civilization that left its mark

1652
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:35,480
across continents before
vanishing from history.

1653
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,760
So what do mainstream
Egyptologists say about all

1654
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,520
this?
They reject it almost entirely.

1655
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,560
They argue that the conventional
timeline is supported by

1656
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:48,320
multiple lines of evidence.
Radiocarbon dating of organic

1657
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:52,200
material found in the pyramids.
Hieroglyphic records tool marks

1658
01:36:52,200 --> 01:36:55,800
consistent with copper and
bronze tools and a progression

1659
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:59,680
of pyramid construction
techniques visible in earlier

1660
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,880
structures.
They say the engineering

1661
01:37:01,880 --> 01:37:05,360
position of the Great Pyramid is
impressive but not impossible.

1662
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:09,200
The Egyptians had the knowledge,
the labor force and the

1663
01:37:09,200 --> 01:37:11,400
organizational capacity to build
it.

1664
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:14,960
They point out that smaller,
less precise pyramids came

1665
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:19,000
before Giza, not after the step.
Pyramids in earlier attempts

1666
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:22,320
show a learning curve.
Giza represents the peak of that

1667
01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:25,080
development.
Later pyramids were smaller and

1668
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:29,000
less ambituous because the
political and economic

1669
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,840
conditions change, not because
the knowledge was lost.

1670
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,800
As for the water erosion on
Sphinx, they argue it's been

1671
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,080
misinterpreted.
Wind erosion, chemical

1672
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:40,000
weathering and other factors can
produce similar patterns.

1673
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:45,720
And As for Zip Tippy, they say
it's mythology, a symbolic story

1674
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,800
about the origins of Egyptian
civilization, not a historical

1675
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:50,720
account of a real advanced
culture.

1676
01:37:51,200 --> 01:37:52,640
But let's entertain the
possibility.

1677
01:37:52,640 --> 01:37:56,800
What if Ambrosio is right?
What if the Great Pyramids are

1678
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,880
12,000 years old?
What if they were built by a

1679
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:01,840
civilization we don't know
about?

1680
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:04,160
That would rewrite human
history.

1681
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:07,200
It would mean that advanced
civilizations existed long

1682
01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,320
before we thought they did.
There's a timeline.

1683
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,440
We've been taught hunter
gatherers transition to

1684
01:38:13,440 --> 01:38:18,520
agriculture around 10,000 BC,
Cities emerging around 4000 BC.

1685
01:38:18,840 --> 01:38:23,320
Riding developing around 3200 BC
is incomplete.

1686
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:28,200
It would mean that knowledge was
lost, that a cataclysm, whether

1687
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:32,400
a flood, an asteroid impact, or
a climate shift, wiped out a

1688
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:36,520
highly developed culture,
leaving behind only fragments,

1689
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,200
megalithic structures, myths and
legends.

1690
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:43,640
And it would raise the question,
what else don't we know?

1691
01:38:44,440 --> 01:38:47,280
If a civilization capable of
building the pyramids existed

1692
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:51,800
12,000 years ago and then just
disappeared, what happened to

1693
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,080
them?
Where did they go and what did

1694
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:59,720
they know that we've forgotten?
Antonio Ambrosio's paper is not

1695
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,200
peer reviewed.
His claims are controversial.

1696
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:04,960
Mainstream archaeology rejects
them.

1697
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,680
But the questions he's raising
aren't new.

1698
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:11,800
They've been asked by
researchers like Graham Hancock,

1699
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,920
Robert Schoch and John Anthony W
for decades.

1700
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:20,360
The precision of the pyramids,
the lack of mummies, the water

1701
01:39:20,360 --> 01:39:23,640
erosion on the Sphinx, the
global presence of megalithic

1702
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:28,160
structures, the mythological
references to a lost golden age.

1703
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:32,640
These are real anomalies and
they deserve investigation.

1704
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:36,920
Whether Ambrosio is right or
wrong, the fact that we're still

1705
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,440
debating the origins of the
pyramids in 2026 tells us

1706
01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:45,400
something important.
We don't have all the answers.

1707
01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,160
All right, Jake, CJ, what do you
guys think?

1708
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:50,920
Are the pyramids 12,000 years
old?

1709
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,920
Or is this just alternative
history running wild?

1710
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:55,480
Gaps in the archaeological
record?

1711
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:58,760
Not all at once.
CJ should go first.

1712
01:40:00,280 --> 01:40:02,240
Hold on, pull.
I'm pulling some stuff up so I

1713
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,080
can make some points.
So you go ahead.

1714
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:06,840
I think he's doing the same.
Yeah.

1715
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:09,400
You guys are both look like
you're just typing away.

1716
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:15,360
So, so I do have this already up
right.

1717
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:20,120
So went ahead and asked
perplexity if heavy objects

1718
01:40:20,120 --> 01:40:24,760
sitting in sand will self level.
And essentially no, they won't

1719
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:27,400
self level without some sort of
outside thing.

1720
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:36,160
Vibrations, water, water flow,
tides, waves or vibration or

1721
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:39,680
loading changes, right?
Unintended vibration.

1722
01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:42,480
So I saw the words unintended
vibrations and I was like, does

1723
01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:46,080
Egypt get earthquakes?
Egypt gets tons of earthquakes,

1724
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:49,760
right?
And then I don't know if you

1725
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,600
guys remember because this guy
freaking vanished off the face

1726
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:54,640
of the earth, but I'm going to
show you this real quick.

1727
01:40:55,120 --> 01:40:57,320
This dude.
Literally the actual screen bud.

1728
01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:03,080
I will in a second.
So this guy here.

1729
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:06,240
Yeah, this guy, this guy's
slick.

1730
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:09,760
Yeah, he he.
He did it all himself.

1731
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:14,480
Yeah, like look at these these
techniques this gentleman was

1732
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:20,000
using to figure out how to move.
And like, he's doing it smaller

1733
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:25,440
scale, but like, look at the
weight he's moving by himself.

1734
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:31,880
Now imagine having 20 or 30 guys
and the same set of devices.

1735
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:37,280
Yeah, there's there's a few
issues with this.

1736
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:42,760
OK, He's doing all of this on
structures that are built with

1737
01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:46,840
modern screws and and drill
guns.

1738
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:53,560
You know it's and and modern 2
by fours or other pieces of wood

1739
01:41:53,560 --> 01:41:58,480
or material, right?
It's yes I the concept is there.

1740
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:03,440
You do not believe to to achieve
what he what he put together

1741
01:42:03,440 --> 01:42:06,200
with squaws and stuff in here he
could do I agree.

1742
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:10,080
Do that with wooden pegs.
You could do that with pine

1743
01:42:10,080 --> 01:42:14,760
titch or pine titch, pine pitch
and like this stuff like they

1744
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,480
had copper, they had bronze.
They could have made those

1745
01:42:17,480 --> 01:42:20,160
pulleys, right?
Maybe we would have found them,

1746
01:42:20,160 --> 01:42:21,960
maybe not.
Maybe they would have melted

1747
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,320
that down and created jewelry
when it was all said and done.

1748
01:42:24,600 --> 01:42:26,720
Like there's no reason they
couldn't have made these

1749
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:29,920
devices.
Would they be as structurally

1750
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,080
sound and would they have needed
way more frequent repair?

1751
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,160
Absolutely.
But there's no reason they

1752
01:42:35,160 --> 01:42:39,400
couldn't have made that stuff.
What I'm saying is this guy is

1753
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:43,680
moving tremendous amounts of
weight with very minimal effort.

1754
01:42:45,240 --> 01:42:49,240
100% true.
By himself, you know, so I'm not

1755
01:42:49,600 --> 01:42:53,560
I'm not really sure that I buy
that pyramids in the Sphinx are

1756
01:42:53,560 --> 01:42:55,800
12,000 years old.
The only the only thing really

1757
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,880
compelling about that is the
water erosion.

1758
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,440
But I'm just as likely to
believe that bored primitive

1759
01:43:02,440 --> 01:43:05,160
people stood on top of it and
just pissed down the side of the

1760
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:07,320
the Sphinx whenever they wanted
to.

1761
01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:11,200
Like maybe you know.
Honestly, maybe.

1762
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:17,560
It doesn't when we have when we
have explanations like that

1763
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:23,720
available and the the inaccuracy
of carbon things like carbon

1764
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:29,440
dating and they stuff like stuff
like that.

1765
01:43:30,080 --> 01:43:34,000
And like I know of the Anunnaki
and I know that like they

1766
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,240
believe like people like Hermes
Triomagistus was from Atlantis

1767
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:41,200
and he was one of the Anunnaki
and really immortal and, and

1768
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:44,680
took on new forms as lives ended
or whatever.

1769
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:48,080
And like I know all the lore
behind that and whatnot.

1770
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:52,800
I still don't think the pyramids
and Sphinx are 12,000 years old.

1771
01:43:53,480 --> 01:43:56,800
I think it's just as likely that
primitive people use primitive

1772
01:43:56,800 --> 01:44:01,080
devices like that put things
into position and earthquakes

1773
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,320
over 3000 years settled them out
and made them level to that

1774
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:06,600
degree.
I think nature's fully capable

1775
01:44:06,600 --> 01:44:08,280
of doing that.
If you have enough weight on

1776
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:11,040
something it will self settle.
Yeah.

1777
01:44:11,080 --> 01:44:15,480
So one thing, right, It's not
necessarily the movement of the

1778
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:18,480
of the blocks while it's there.
It's the getting the blocks to

1779
01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:22,120
where the location was that is
the big mystery.

1780
01:44:22,440 --> 01:44:27,480
OK, most of the blocks for the
Giza pyramids were actually

1781
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:32,160
harvested from the Giza Plateau.
I think miles north and had to

1782
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:36,240
be brought down a river and all
that. 15 kilometers were the

1783
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:40,400
furthest away.
Now, the outside of the pyramid,

1784
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:46,200
OK, the outside, I want to say I
can't, I don't have it in my

1785
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:50,680
notes, but it was like a white
outer casing.

1786
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:55,560
The the stone on the outside of
the pyramids, they found where

1787
01:44:55,560 --> 01:45:00,600
those were cut from over 500
miles to the South.

1788
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,400
And those are gigantic blocks as
well.

1789
01:45:04,240 --> 01:45:09,440
In fact, they were even heavier
than the stuff that was quarried

1790
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:14,360
on the Giza plateau.
So I'm not saying blocks weren't

1791
01:45:14,360 --> 01:45:18,200
cut from that stone.
How do they know for a fact that

1792
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:21,160
those blocks came from there?
They they took one of them off

1793
01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,120
the pyramid, took it down there
and matched it.

1794
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:26,360
Up like a bunch?
I mean, the best thing to do

1795
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:31,920
would be composition matching.
You know, everything is slightly

1796
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:33,360
different.
No matter where you get, you get

1797
01:45:33,360 --> 01:45:36,840
limestone from here and and in
Wisconsin, you go to limestone

1798
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,840
there in Pennsylvania and you
know, you can look at the the

1799
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:46,160
mineral composition of it and
find that, you know, if a random

1800
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:50,640
piece of limestone ended up in
Florida that it most likely came

1801
01:45:50,640 --> 01:45:53,000
from here in Wisconsin than it
did in Pennsylvania.

1802
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,400
Right now I understand that and
I'm not saying that I don't

1803
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:02,720
believe that some high tech
civilization maybe jump

1804
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,800
dimensions and help them put
these together.

1805
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,720
I just don't think it was 12,000
years ago.

1806
01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:09,440
I also don't think it was 12,000
years ago.

1807
01:46:09,440 --> 01:46:12,560
If I have to be brutally honest,
I don't think that that number

1808
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,520
is correct.
I'm just going off of what was

1809
01:46:14,520 --> 01:46:17,240
written in the guy's paper.
If we've got interdimensional

1810
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,760
travellers now, they could have
had it then if they have things

1811
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:23,360
like tractor beams or whatever,
or high tech lasers for cutting

1812
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,360
shit and whatever.
Because wasn't it like the

1813
01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:28,400
granite or whatever that they're
cut from?

1814
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:32,480
Like like the bronze or copper
tools they were using wouldn't

1815
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:35,560
have had the hardness capability
of cutting through that stuff

1816
01:46:35,560 --> 01:46:35,960
or.
Whatever.

1817
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:38,480
Yeah, a lot of that wouldn't, I
mean we would need diamond

1818
01:46:38,480 --> 01:46:41,080
tipped saw blades to go through
and and.

1819
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,200
For cutting stone like that, now
I know that we use high pressure

1820
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:47,120
water.
Primarily, yes, yes we do.

1821
01:46:47,480 --> 01:46:49,160
And they would not have had that
technology.

1822
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,400
So OK, inter dimensional beings
crossover, they use the laser

1823
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:53,840
high pressure technology,
whatever.

1824
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,600
I'm not.
I'm not going the inter

1825
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,280
dimensional being route on that
one.

1826
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:00,600
For aliens, whatever I.
I like the advanced

1827
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:02,920
civilization.
I think that's a very

1828
01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:05,320
interesting case and I think
there's a lot of evidence for it

1829
01:47:05,320 --> 01:47:06,640
around the world and through
time.

1830
01:47:07,120 --> 01:47:12,400
But I, I'm not also I'm, I don't
know about the 12,000 years.

1831
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,320
I I I feel like Jake might be
ready to jump in though.

1832
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,040
You see me chomping at the bit
over here.

1833
01:47:19,560 --> 01:47:21,800
I see.
OK, well, you know where I'm

1834
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:23,520
going to go.
Where am I going to go, CJ?

1835
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:26,560
To young Earth theory and the
Bible.

1836
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:29,040
Hey, how'd you know?
Oh, that's weird.

1837
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:34,160
Creepy I.
I've known you for 8 1/2 years

1838
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:35,200
now.
I think is.

1839
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:37,120
It that long?
No way.

1840
01:47:37,560 --> 01:47:39,800
No, the show's only 5 1/2 years
old.

1841
01:47:40,480 --> 01:47:41,080
Five and a.
Half.

1842
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:42,640
I'm saying it, You've known them
for five years.

1843
01:47:42,920 --> 01:47:45,000
Listen, they can say the two of
the pyramids are 12 and a half

1844
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,440
12,000 years old.
I've known Jake for 8 1/2 years.

1845
01:47:47,440 --> 01:47:50,160
I can say that if they can make.
Up numbers I can make.

1846
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,280
Them There's no photographic
evidence of the first time that

1847
01:47:54,280 --> 01:48:01,440
we met OK, so.
It's a time stamp Facebook post

1848
01:48:01,440 --> 01:48:06,480
somewhere.
Right, so this is this is

1849
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:12,600
quoting out of out of Matthew 24
verse 37.

1850
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:16,640
The apostles following around
Jesus were asking him when the

1851
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:20,520
time when the end would be and
this was his response.

1852
01:48:20,600 --> 01:48:26,440
He said here in verse 37 going
into 38 it says.

1853
01:48:27,680 --> 01:48:32,280
In 39 it says.
But as the days of Noah were, so

1854
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:35,360
also will the coming of the Son
of Man be.

1855
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:39,000
For as in the days before the
flood they were eating and

1856
01:48:39,000 --> 01:48:42,640
drinking, marrying and giving in
marriage until the day that Noah

1857
01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:46,520
entered the ark, and they did
not know until the flood came

1858
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:50,040
and took them all away, so also
will the coming of the Son of

1859
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,560
Man be.
And then he goes in to explain

1860
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:57,480
that more, but he gives a couple
examples there of basically what

1861
01:48:57,480 --> 01:48:59,960
they were doing before the
flood.

1862
01:48:59,960 --> 01:49:02,480
And they're, they're eating and
drinking and feasting and

1863
01:49:02,480 --> 01:49:04,240
marrying each other.
OK, great.

1864
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,360
It's also in the Bible that
they're that God looked upon the

1865
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,880
hearts of men and saw that they
were nothing but evil all the

1866
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:18,040
time and felt sorrow and regret
in the creation of man, but that

1867
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:21,880
he he favored Noah and his
family because of their their

1868
01:49:21,880 --> 01:49:25,360
righteousness.
But it's just seeing something

1869
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,200
like that.
And I agree.

1870
01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:29,560
I agree that the Egyptians
didn't build the pyramids.

1871
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:32,760
I think they moved in and they
probably graffitied all over the

1872
01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:36,000
pyramids in the same way, you
know, dumb tourists do today.

1873
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:39,120
They go to places that have, you
know, whether they're granite

1874
01:49:39,120 --> 01:49:42,120
faces or they're Half Dome or
they're a structure that

1875
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:43,720
someone's built and they
graffiti all over them because

1876
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:48,640
people suck, you know, and they
try to graffiti isn't just

1877
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:54,840
necessarily in a way to deface
something, but you see graffiti

1878
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,880
all over certain neighborhoods
and it's because they're trying

1879
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:02,560
to claim that territory as their
own, which is ridiculous because

1880
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:04,600
they're doing it in the city
built by other people, right?

1881
01:50:05,160 --> 01:50:08,720
But people do that all the time
and ancient cultures, I don't

1882
01:50:08,720 --> 01:50:11,960
believe we're any different but
in this whole thing.

1883
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:18,560
But as the days of Noah were so
also, well, the coming of the

1884
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:24,040
son of Man B and he's talking
about when he comes back, they

1885
01:50:24,040 --> 01:50:28,920
weren't only marrying each other
and having parties and feasting.

1886
01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:33,520
They were doing other things
during this amount of time that

1887
01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,240
they inhabited the earth before
they were taken away.

1888
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:40,760
And I think that they were doing
things like this, things that we

1889
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:45,280
can't even comprehend.
And because this he's describing

1890
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:49,080
what's going to happen in the
future, at that time when he's

1891
01:50:49,080 --> 01:50:51,760
saying this to these people,
they had no idea how to build

1892
01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,960
the pyramids.
And here with all of our

1893
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:57,600
advanced technology, we still
don't know exactly how to build

1894
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,520
the pyramids, although we could
replicate it in a smaller form

1895
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:03,080
like that gentleman did on that
video that that you showed.

1896
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:07,560
If we, if we, but that's based
off of the technology we have

1897
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:12,120
now knowing where true North is,
knowing you know, what's

1898
01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:14,600
completely level, like how do we
measure that?

1899
01:51:14,600 --> 01:51:18,360
We could do that.
Now on a smaller scale, maybe

1900
01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:22,240
this is saying that we are going
to get to that point where we

1901
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:26,160
could do similar things and have
full knowledge and not only have

1902
01:51:26,160 --> 01:51:29,666
full knowledge, but the same way
we have that massive bass pro

1903
01:51:29,667 --> 01:51:32,560
shops and wherever Vegas or
wherever it is, that's a giant

1904
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:35,280
glass pyramid.
We actually do build a pyramid.

1905
01:51:35,560 --> 01:51:39,560
And then it happens, right?
And then and then it happens

1906
01:51:39,560 --> 01:51:42,280
because we're at this point now,
we're in the same way.

1907
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:46,280
Atheism really didn't exist
until after the atomic bomb was

1908
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,600
made when people decided, oh,
we're God now.

1909
01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,840
We don't need the idea of God
because that's us.

1910
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,760
We're going to get to this point
where we're going to be so

1911
01:51:54,760 --> 01:52:00,080
horribly evil as a, as humankind
and we're going to be able to

1912
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:05,440
defy physics and what we can do
or what, you know, what we can

1913
01:52:05,440 --> 01:52:08,640
create and just get to this
point where God's going to look

1914
01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,640
at us and say, and that's enough
of that.

1915
01:52:11,480 --> 01:52:16,240
Wrap it up.
You know, I, I don't know, I, I

1916
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:17,880
think that there's, there's some
parallels here.

1917
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:21,560
But yeah, I'm, I'm absolutely
the, you know, the people before

1918
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:23,160
the flood weren't a bunch of
Cavemen.

1919
01:52:23,440 --> 01:52:28,560
Because if you look at animals,
animals can't determine evil.

1920
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:32,160
They can't, you know, even if a
dog bites you, it's, he doesn't

1921
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,960
do it out of evil.
He does it out of instinct.

1922
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:37,600
You can't look at primitive
people and put that sort of

1923
01:52:37,600 --> 01:52:41,160
weight on them and say, oh, it's
because they're evil or they,

1924
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:44,400
you know, evolutionarily just
running off of instinct.

1925
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,120
There had to have been something
more.

1926
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,040
Was it the technology?
They met some.

1927
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,080
Chihuahuas that are real
assholes.

1928
01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:53,080
What's that?
So I've met some chihuahuas.

1929
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,280
Real assholes.
Chihuahuas are from hell,

1930
01:52:55,280 --> 01:53:01,040
everyone knows that.
But besides them, God.

1931
01:53:01,080 --> 01:53:03,760
God gave the devil the ability
to create one thing and he

1932
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:09,680
created Chihuahuas.
OK, so besides them, I think

1933
01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:13,600
that, yeah, I, I have no doubt.
And I was actually just just

1934
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,080
discussing this with another
Christian Co worker that I have

1935
01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:18,880
this week.
And I was like, yeah, I don't

1936
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:21,200
think that the Egyptians built
the pyramids and I don't think

1937
01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:22,840
the Jews were the ones that
built them either.

1938
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:26,840
The Bible says the Jews were in
captivity or enslaved in Egypt.

1939
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,080
That it does not say that they
built the pyramids.

1940
01:53:29,440 --> 01:53:31,640
It doesn't say that the
Egyptians built the pyramids.

1941
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:35,960
It's like, and then you know, if
there's even a shadow of a doubt

1942
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:40,280
that the hieroglyphs on the
inside the pyramids didn't come

1943
01:53:40,280 --> 01:53:43,680
from the Egyptians by people
that aren't Egyptian, that

1944
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,840
actually says a lot because of
course they want to safeguard

1945
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:49,520
their history and say no, no,
no, no, no, no, our ancient

1946
01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,320
people were amazing, way better
than you guys.

1947
01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,280
You can't even figure it out.
We can't even figure it out.

1948
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,600
That's how good they were.
And then you get people from the

1949
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,360
outside of that.
And that's why we have peer

1950
01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:03,480
reviewed studies that say these
look like chisels, chisel marks

1951
01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:08,160
from modern day tools, not from
ancient Egyptians that were able

1952
01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:11,840
they, they could make this crazy
precise cut, you know, these

1953
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,680
crazy precise cuts on these
massive blocks and transport

1954
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:16,720
them.
But they're tooling looks like

1955
01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:20,360
the garbage we make now when it
was bought from Harbor Freight.

1956
01:54:20,440 --> 01:54:23,000
Come on now.
Like, you know, it's like there,

1957
01:54:23,240 --> 01:54:24,840
that's where that happens,
right?

1958
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,240
That's where that peer review
comes in.

1959
01:54:26,240 --> 01:54:28,600
And then someone comes in and
they're like, they're like, if

1960
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:32,440
this was able to be done, then
everything that they were doing

1961
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:35,200
from that technology period must
have been amazing.

1962
01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:39,880
You know, and I I suppose you
could say that from from like

1963
01:54:39,880 --> 01:54:41,560
right now, it's like, why would
there be?

1964
01:54:41,720 --> 01:54:44,360
Why could we, you know, shoot
sound at people and make them

1965
01:54:44,360 --> 01:54:47,360
feel like their skins on fire?
But I'm buying tools from crap,

1966
01:54:47,440 --> 01:54:49,560
you know, Craftsman tools for my
toolbox.

1967
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:53,760
You could say that, but what it
if it's in the same realm of

1968
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:58,240
like the thing, right?
The pyramids, why is the tooling

1969
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:01,520
that they're using to write down
how they built it and their

1970
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:05,120
history is trash compared to how
they built the thing, right?

1971
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:08,680
It would be very strange to see
that if the scientists that

1972
01:55:08,680 --> 01:55:12,320
created that, you know, heat
wave death ray thing that

1973
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,480
they're shooting at protesters
are also using tools from Harbor

1974
01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:17,320
Freight, would be very strange,
right?

1975
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:23,040
So versus something else, Right.
So I think that there's a lot to

1976
01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:26,160
be said with that, that, you
know, things aren't lining up.

1977
01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:30,120
And it's probably because those
two things, the pyramids being

1978
01:55:30,120 --> 01:55:32,960
built and the things written on
the pyramids are from 2 totally

1979
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,760
different time periods and two
totally different cultures.

1980
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:40,720
And I, I agree that.
Yeah, you can say things will

1981
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:43,560
self level over time and things
will, you know, kind of right

1982
01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:45,480
themselves over time.
And I I agree with that.

1983
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:50,160
But you can't really disagree
with how true to true North it

1984
01:55:50,160 --> 01:55:53,520
is.
Like, that's pretty insane.

1985
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:57,840
And then that later on, other
renditions of the same thing

1986
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,040
were smaller and crappier in
their construction.

1987
01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,880
It's like, if anything, they
would have gotten better.

1988
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,440
And then like, OK, we're not
going to make this giant one,

1989
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:08,040
but we're going to make another
one.

1990
01:56:08,200 --> 01:56:12,200
But it would be in the exact
same format of just a marvelous

1991
01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:15,320
spectacle.
It wouldn't be a crappier design

1992
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:17,760
as if someone was trying to
replicate that.

1993
01:56:18,400 --> 01:56:20,240
I think the.
IPhone 72.

1994
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:23,520
Now whether it was 22,000 years,
I don't know.

1995
01:56:24,240 --> 01:56:26,000
What is it from?
Everything Jake just said.

1996
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:29,280
I have this like visual of
ancient Egyptians.

1997
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:30,760
It's like a bunch of Donald
Trump's.

1998
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:34,240
We have the best pyramids, the
greatest pyramids.

1999
01:56:34,480 --> 01:56:38,120
The Aztecs pyramids don't point
to north, but our pyramids do.

2000
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,720
I mean you could look at the
Aztecs too.

2001
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:43,040
I mean, the Aztecs, they they
have had some pretty cool

2002
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,000
pyramids and the culture thought
that if they didn't kill people,

2003
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:48,720
the sudden wouldn't come up.
That doesn't, Yeah.

2004
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:52,840
Well, the Aztecs are also
significantly more modern times

2005
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:55,760
than people.
To me that says people that just

2006
01:56:55,800 --> 01:56:59,680
walked upon this in the same way
when I'm, you know, when I'm

2007
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,720
playing a video game in arc and
I see a a structure that the

2008
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:05,440
game makers built and I'm like,
I'm going to make this my home.

2009
01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:10,480
Why would I make walls I've got?
This one door and I'm good.

2010
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:12,320
It's the.
And nobody can mesh through

2011
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:15,040
this.
It's just.

2012
01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:19,200
In a in a people move, moving
from one place to another sort

2013
01:57:19,200 --> 01:57:20,680
of a thing, I think.
They just showed up.

2014
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:23,360
This is mine now.
Yeah, people.

2015
01:57:23,360 --> 01:57:26,160
Act the exact same whether it's
on a video game or in real life,

2016
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,840
right?
In the same way, if, if

2017
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:33,840
something were to occur and say,
you know, you're, I don't know,

2018
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:38,880
you stumbled across a really
nicely built home in an area

2019
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:42,160
where someone just, you know,
gave you the land, Would you

2020
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:44,600
then say, well, I'm not going to
take that.

2021
01:57:44,600 --> 01:57:46,840
I'm going to build my own and
waste a bunch of money, a bunch

2022
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:48,680
of time.
If you could just move into the

2023
01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:53,560
the space, right.
It's like, I think that I think

2024
01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:55,160
that there's a lot of that
throughout the world where

2025
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:56,960
people are like, I don't know
how this happened.

2026
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:00,320
Well, it's because it wasn't us
that did that.

2027
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:05,040
You know, maybe people, sure,
but not our people in this, you

2028
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:08,280
know, what would call the
timeline that we have now?

2029
01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,560
A cataclysmic event that was so
great, not only did it wipe out

2030
01:58:11,560 --> 01:58:14,040
the technologies and the people,
but also everything they wrote

2031
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:16,120
down because most assuredly they
they must have.

2032
01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:20,680
But it's gone now and and.
Of the ocean and the ocean.

2033
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:23,080
I mean, I can.
Say that shit into the Mariana.

2034
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:26,480
I can say, I mean, I know
through modern archaeology we,

2035
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:31,680
we find things like, you know,
swords and stuff from the Roman

2036
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:34,600
era and everything.
And they are, they have to be

2037
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:38,040
perfectly preserved.
And even then, you know it,

2038
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:41,120
their preservation state has to
be perfect because even then we

2039
01:58:41,120 --> 01:58:44,600
get it out and it's like a chunk
of what it once was, right?

2040
01:58:44,600 --> 01:58:47,040
And it's like, well, we can date
this back and say, this is

2041
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:48,280
probably built during this time
frame.

2042
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:52,240
Or we found this in a, you know,
we found a Viking long ship and

2043
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:56,560
these were inside of, you know,
what was once the wood of that

2044
01:58:56,560 --> 01:58:58,840
ship.
So this is probably a burial

2045
01:58:58,840 --> 01:59:00,040
thing, right?
We can see that.

2046
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:04,720
But then when things are exposed
to the elements, the fence from

2047
01:59:04,720 --> 01:59:07,360
the base that I just left in
Southern California two years

2048
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:10,280
ago when I got in the Navy, the
fence was like 10 years old, but

2049
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:14,240
it was exposed to sea air.
And all of the, the all of the

2050
01:59:14,240 --> 01:59:18,440
the brackets holding the links
on to the post were gone.

2051
01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:21,800
Like just chunks of just rust on
the ground.

2052
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:23,400
It was crazy.
I took a picture of it and I

2053
01:59:23,400 --> 01:59:25,000
sent it to some people.
I was like, I was like, yeah,

2054
01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:27,160
that's well belt.
Good job military, you know?

2055
01:59:27,160 --> 01:59:29,120
But it it's true.
I mean, the thing had only been

2056
01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:31,520
there for like 10 years with the
Sierra just eating it away.

2057
01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:36,920
And that's modern iron, right?
Changing sides, I'm more team.

2058
01:59:36,920 --> 01:59:40,520
Jig and stuff, right?
And so it's like even things

2059
01:59:41,200 --> 01:59:46,040
will get lost to time, and it's
only because of certain, and I'm

2060
01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:48,960
not going to agree that those
aliens from Peru are real

2061
01:59:48,960 --> 01:59:50,440
because of The Cave they're
found in.

2062
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:51,560
That's B.
Listen.

2063
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,840
Listen, man.
But I also agree with Jake on

2064
01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:56,400
that one.
I think those shit's fake too.

2065
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:57,880
But I.
Don't think I don't fear.

2066
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:01,600
It's not crazy to think of.
And even like, shoot, in

2067
02:00:01,600 --> 02:00:03,920
Virginia, there was, there's
Jamestown there.

2068
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:06,920
And you know, you go over there
and they're like, yeah, this is

2069
02:00:06,920 --> 02:00:08,600
where a building used to be.
And it's like, well, how you

2070
02:00:08,600 --> 02:00:11,120
know, it's like, well, there's
4x4 post holes.

2071
02:00:11,320 --> 02:00:12,720
It's like, right, where's the
posts?

2072
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:15,680
Well, they're, they're gone.
This is 250 years ago.

2073
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:17,040
They're they're not here
anymore.

2074
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:21,320
It was wood, you know, it just
cut from a, you know, trees

2075
02:00:21,320 --> 02:00:25,040
lying about, but we could tell
the building was here because of

2076
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:27,040
where the holes are in the
ground.

2077
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:31,320
And it's like, and that was only
250 years, not, you know, 2003

2078
02:00:31,320 --> 02:00:35,200
thousand, 5010 thousand 12,020
thousand years ago, right.

2079
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:37,880
It's like it's.
Remarkable beginning from that

2080
02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:39,240
time frame.
Aliens up.

2081
02:00:39,520 --> 02:00:44,320
So, yeah, I mean, even outside
of the Bible and what I believe

2082
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:49,160
on that, I do think that the
reason why we can't come up with

2083
02:00:49,160 --> 02:00:54,080
the things now of how exactly
how this was built, maybe from a

2084
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:57,960
smaller scale but not that sort
of scale, is because we weren't

2085
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:00,200
the ones that did that.
Otherwise there would probably

2086
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:07,440
be, you know, a timeline of
journal entries overtime saying

2087
02:01:07,440 --> 02:01:09,640
this is how this happened,
right?

2088
02:01:09,640 --> 02:01:13,240
Unless there was cultures back
in the day that are same like

2089
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:16,280
the same as our cultures these
days where they move into an

2090
02:01:16,280 --> 02:01:19,560
area and destroy everything
because you know, their religion

2091
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:23,360
says to do so, which is a.
Forgery tries to shame us over

2092
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,400
these aliens.
Just a quick follow up question.

2093
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:28,000
Like so like all that stuff is
gone, right?

2094
02:01:28,000 --> 02:01:31,440
And like, and a lot of that does
make sense that a lot of it

2095
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:34,280
would have eroded or you know.
Eternity.

2096
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:36,320
Absolutely.
Destroyed it right.

2097
02:01:36,840 --> 02:01:41,280
But they if if all that stuff
was like existing and masked

2098
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:43,760
like they would have needed a
lot of those tools in order to

2099
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:46,360
make those things.
We should have at least found

2100
02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:49,040
like 1 and.
Like we, we.

2101
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:52,240
We find petrified giant.
What I'm saying is like we find

2102
02:01:52,240 --> 02:01:56,800
giant petrified Viking turds.
True, literally giant pieces of

2103
02:01:56,800 --> 02:01:59,840
Viking poop.
We found that We should have

2104
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:02,640
found a metal tool somewhere,
right?

2105
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:05,560
And and that's not to say that I
mean, think of like the Sahara,

2106
02:02:05,560 --> 02:02:07,040
right?
The reason why you get these

2107
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:10,160
crazy looking sand dunes that
kind of build up and shift and

2108
02:02:10,160 --> 02:02:11,360
stuff like that is because of
the wind.

2109
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:14,120
What's to say that one of those
tools doesn't exist, but it's

2110
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:16,240
buried underneath 200 feet of
sand?

2111
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:18,120
That's fair.
That's fair.

2112
02:02:18,120 --> 02:02:20,560
Or it's in a cave somewhere.
We found the Dead Sea Scrolls

2113
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:23,520
that, you know, show that the
Bible wasn't just, you know,

2114
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:26,240
wasn't just made-up, but it was
written down at some point.

2115
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:29,400
But we found those in a cave.
And that was in the 1900s, I'm

2116
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:32,360
pretty sure, you know.
And Jeremy's so fake pregnant

2117
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:33,720
aliens that he's about to try to
shoot.

2118
02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:35,440
Why?
Why couldn't it be that yes,

2119
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:38,760
those tools do exist, we just
haven't discovered them yet?

2120
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:41,320
Or they're being hidden by a
culture that doesn't want them

2121
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:44,960
to be found because it would
destroy a narrative or whatever,

2122
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:47,920
right?
I don't know, that's how I feel

2123
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:49,400
about it.
We find one of them in the

2124
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:51,360
government shows them like give
us that, give us that.

2125
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:53,600
I mean, it'd be like Sonian,
right?

2126
02:02:53,600 --> 02:02:56,160
You find it.
If you found a freaking dinosaur

2127
02:02:56,160 --> 02:02:58,960
skeleton in your backyard trying
to dig a trench, they'd probably

2128
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:00,120
come in there and take it from
you.

2129
02:03:01,000 --> 02:03:03,120
Well, you find one of these,
like, ancient tools that will

2130
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,240
totally reveal what you're
saying, and the government just

2131
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:07,880
sweeps in, takes the tool,
shoots the guy in the face, puts

2132
02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:10,440
him in a hole somewhere, and
then everybody's gone.

2133
02:03:10,440 --> 02:03:14,200
No one knows any different.
I mean, like, that's a problem

2134
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:17,280
in California, right?
Because people will, the city

2135
02:03:17,280 --> 02:03:19,960
will Commission a new, a new
high rise to be built and

2136
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:22,800
they'll go in there to level the
ground with, with skid steers

2137
02:03:22,800 --> 02:03:25,960
and bulldozers and things like
that, and then find whale bones.

2138
02:03:25,960 --> 02:03:28,160
And then immediately the
government will swoop in there

2139
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:32,200
to to excavate all of it and
then make sure the site's good

2140
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:33,440
before they're allowed to
continue.

2141
02:03:33,440 --> 02:03:34,880
And that process might take a
year.

2142
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:37,280
I mean, it happens pretty
routinely.

2143
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:40,560
So even if you were to find
something like this, that's not

2144
02:03:40,560 --> 02:03:42,840
to say that the federal
government, it wouldn't be like,

2145
02:03:42,840 --> 02:03:45,080
well, this is ours now, what are
you going to do about it?

2146
02:03:45,080 --> 02:03:51,400
Kill those or us you know well.
Actually, it should, you know,

2147
02:03:52,760 --> 02:03:55,680
give me my fucking ancient tool
bag and just start running

2148
02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:56,320
stuff.
Over.

2149
02:03:56,320 --> 02:03:58,680
That's right.
All right, Jeremy, you can shame

2150
02:03:58,680 --> 02:04:00,360
us now.
No, I'm not.

2151
02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:04,320
I, I, I just, there's a, there's
a lot of misconceptions out

2152
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:10,680
there about the, the Nazca,
about the Peruvian mummies,

2153
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:13,560
right?
When we first talked about it,

2154
02:04:13,560 --> 02:04:18,640
Jake, these guys right here were
the ones that, that we were

2155
02:04:18,640 --> 02:04:20,840
talking about.
And these were the, the, the

2156
02:04:20,840 --> 02:04:23,640
more common photos being being
sewn around.

2157
02:04:24,120 --> 02:04:26,800
Those are fake.
Oh, they are fake.

2158
02:04:27,400 --> 02:04:31,320
Those ones, these two right here
are fake.

2159
02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:36,600
These are the Peruvian tridactyl
mummies that everyone is talking

2160
02:04:36,600 --> 02:04:38,800
about.
This is what actually came out.

2161
02:04:39,400 --> 02:04:43,920
This is what the mainstream
media attached to, not the

2162
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:45,640
correct.
Things not necessarily they

2163
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:48,360
those were the ones that the
government said this is what we

2164
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:51,000
have and they had their fake
scientists standing around it.

2165
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:55,000
That's what the the mainstream
media told you.

2166
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:59,800
So there, there's actually a
total, I think a six or seven of

2167
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:03,640
these.
Now this is Monsteret.

2168
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:07,480
This is one of the more famous
ones that people are talking

2169
02:05:07,480 --> 02:05:09,000
about.
And then there's also Maria.

2170
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:13,960
Now I'm going to bring up.
They look pretty big, could they

2171
02:05:13,960 --> 02:05:15,520
be just backed up looking
people?

2172
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:19,880
A lot of new breeding.
No, I don't think so, man, and

2173
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:22,160
I'm going to show you.
Chicken eggs up their butts.

2174
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:25,920
No, I I was listening to JRE the
other day and they were talking

2175
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:30,080
about how like the cranial space
has more volume than the humans

2176
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:31,760
does, which isn't actually
possible.

2177
02:05:31,760 --> 02:05:34,520
Like it like even if you have
like one of those cultures where

2178
02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:37,160
they shape the head or whatever,
like you would be able to

2179
02:05:37,160 --> 02:05:39,120
increase volume that.
Correct.

2180
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:43,000
So listen, just check out this
website, Pam.

2181
02:05:43,240 --> 02:05:47,240
So the other CJ, the the episode
you're talking about, when I

2182
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:50,000
talked about it before, this is
the website that I got a lot of

2183
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,440
that information from.
And this is just the breakdown

2184
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:57,240
of the Maria Tridactyl.
Like I said, there's 6-7, maybe

2185
02:05:57,240 --> 02:05:59,560
8 of them is.
Maria, the pregnant one.

2186
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:06,080
Yes, Maria is the pregnant one.
This is this is a a scan of her

2187
02:06:06,080 --> 02:06:11,400
right here and you can see a
full 3 dimensional scan of her.

2188
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:13,120
Creepy looking bitch.
Holy shit.

2189
02:06:13,480 --> 02:06:18,920
Yeah, that's her butt hole, but
that's the important problem.

2190
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:22,360
But you can see it.
The reason why they're called

2191
02:06:22,360 --> 02:06:26,200
trigactyls is because they have
three toes, or you know, 3

2192
02:06:26,320 --> 02:06:29,400
appendages on their feet and
three appendages on their hands.

2193
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:32,160
Here's a side view of Maria.
Now.

2194
02:06:32,160 --> 02:06:36,080
This is tridactyls.org.
Highly recommend to anybody

2195
02:06:36,080 --> 02:06:38,200
who's interested in this topic
to go check this out.

2196
02:06:38,200 --> 02:06:40,400
It's very, very interesting
stuff.

2197
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:42,280
I went to high.
School with the guy that had six

2198
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:45,160
fingers on each hand and six
toes on each foot and he was

2199
02:06:45,160 --> 02:06:49,160
like 6-7 I think.
He was huge and it was a genetic

2200
02:06:49,160 --> 02:06:52,560
defect through all of the men in
his family.

2201
02:06:52,680 --> 02:06:55,400
If he died and someone found a
skeleton, would they just call

2202
02:06:55,400 --> 02:06:57,760
him a hexadactyl and say he was
an alien?

2203
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:03,200
Well, I the there's a lot of
structural differences between

2204
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:08,960
the tridactyls and typical
humans.

2205
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:13,280
OK, a lot of different things.
I'm not going to get into the

2206
02:07:13,280 --> 02:07:15,200
breakdown.
We're already, yeah.

2207
02:07:15,200 --> 02:07:17,640
We're doing terrible with the
hour long deadline.

2208
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:22,120
There's episodes in a row that
have gone way over.

2209
02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:25,360
Terrible, right?
OK, so here's the other the

2210
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:29,440
other specimens.
Monster Rat, Maria, Joy, Paloma,

2211
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:33,360
Santiago, Sebastian, Antonio.
And then there's the. 2 foot

2212
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:34,000
right.
They're people.

2213
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:40,160
They got people names.
I just like found them in the

2214
02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:42,520
caves with a hello my name is
tag on it.

2215
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:45,680
Those stickers stuck to their
chest, yeah.

2216
02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:49,280
These aren't aliens, these were
Costco employees that got lost

2217
02:07:49,280 --> 02:07:52,640
you.
Guys, you guys are wild.

2218
02:07:56,200 --> 02:08:01,600
So, but yeah, it's, I highly
recommend anybody that is

2219
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:06,240
interested in this.
There is incredible, incredible

2220
02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:11,440
data on this now.
And I 100% believe that these

2221
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:15,640
are real biological entities.
Whether they are deformed humans

2222
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:25,160
I don't know, but there there's
even metal medical hardware

2223
02:08:25,240 --> 02:08:30,480
installed in them, like as in
somebody what you're saying on

2224
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:31,880
these things while they were
alive.

2225
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:34,320
So what you're saying is that
these are the pre flood

2226
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:37,840
chimeras?
They may, and that is something

2227
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:40,800
that has been passed around as
as a potential.

2228
02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:43,920
No, I don't.
I don't know if they necessarily

2229
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:48,040
match the description of a of a
you know what a lot of people

2230
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:55,400
would title a Nephilim, but this
is there's, there's a lot coming

2231
02:08:55,400 --> 02:08:58,960
out about this guys, and a lot
is being blocked here in the

2232
02:08:58,960 --> 02:09:00,600
United States.
You have to go to outside

2233
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:05,000
sources.
A lot of Spanish speaking

2234
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:06,680
websites.
Well, I'm sure, because this

2235
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:09,320
probably comes from a culture
that's mostly Catholic and this

2236
02:09:09,320 --> 02:09:13,200
is, and we live in a society
that's they're trying so hard to

2237
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:15,040
make it as atheistic as
possible.

2238
02:09:15,640 --> 02:09:18,920
Can I go back to something Jake
mentioned earlier, just just to

2239
02:09:18,920 --> 02:09:21,280
kind of ask a question.
So when we were talking about

2240
02:09:21,280 --> 02:09:24,520
the hands earlier, right, and,
and the five digits and how

2241
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:28,080
that's pretty consistent across
not only like humanity, but like

2242
02:09:28,080 --> 02:09:30,760
other species as well.
And we kind of had a discussion

2243
02:09:30,760 --> 02:09:35,320
about like, why having hands
that way, like matter because

2244
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:37,480
like, you know, we have our
hands are set up the way they

2245
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:42,920
are.
We need to manipulate objects in

2246
02:09:42,920 --> 02:09:45,600
complicated manners and what
not.

2247
02:09:45,880 --> 02:09:49,880
How is that hand set up
advantageous to manipulating a

2248
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:52,240
complicated?
It looks like they just swing.

2249
02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:54,600
That's what it looks like it.
Looks like they were hanging

2250
02:09:54,600 --> 02:09:57,440
upside down in trees.
Those are bat people.

2251
02:09:57,760 --> 02:10:00,080
I mean, what's going on?
Here I guess it doesn't or it

2252
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:02,360
isn't because they're all dead
and there's none of them left,

2253
02:10:02,360 --> 02:10:04,880
so I guess.
True, you know, true.

2254
02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:07,160
But like, but if you look at the
form they're put in or whatever

2255
02:10:07,160 --> 02:10:10,880
and they're like in the caves,
that's like, like, what was,

2256
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:12,840
what do they call that?
Like it's like a complicated

2257
02:10:12,840 --> 02:10:15,680
form of, of burial, which is
like one of the main signs of

2258
02:10:15,680 --> 02:10:19,240
like intelligence and community
and like advanced civilization

2259
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:22,720
and all that, right?
Like, like the people coming

2260
02:10:22,720 --> 02:10:24,680
together, something like that.
I don't know.

2261
02:10:24,680 --> 02:10:27,600
It just it doesn't make sense to
me that they would have three

2262
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:33,080
fingers, no thumbs, and then be
a complicated form of life that

2263
02:10:33,760 --> 02:10:38,040
existed long enough to to evolve
to that, to that form.

2264
02:10:38,360 --> 02:10:41,320
It doesn't make sense to me,
more like like Jake was

2265
02:10:41,320 --> 02:10:43,320
mentioning earlier.
I see what you're saying, yeah.

2266
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:47,320
Like like some sort of weird
genetic birth defect that ran

2267
02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:50,600
into a ran in a specific
bloodline and now they no longer

2268
02:10:50,600 --> 02:10:54,360
exist because those those
defects weren't advantageous and

2269
02:10:54,600 --> 02:10:56,600
they weren't able to spread
their genes.

2270
02:10:56,920 --> 02:11:00,440
They died out, as they should.
They're like creatures from The

2271
02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:02,400
Descent.
Right.

2272
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:04,960
Here's I want to share this real
quick just.

2273
02:11:04,960 --> 02:11:06,720
They don't need thumbs because
all they're doing is climbing

2274
02:11:06,720 --> 02:11:10,320
cave rocks.
Exactly, they were climbing over

2275
02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:14,120
rocks getting minors that are
trapped in the minors.

2276
02:11:14,120 --> 02:11:16,240
Not minors.
No Epstein over here.

2277
02:11:16,240 --> 02:11:18,480
They're.
Getting mine could have been

2278
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:19,800
Epstein.
That's why she was pregnant.

2279
02:11:20,440 --> 02:11:25,760
Well, I just want to show the
file verification down here just

2280
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:28,320
for you know the people that
this matters to.

2281
02:11:28,320 --> 02:11:32,240
Like Jake did a, a version of
this with the NASA photos

2282
02:11:32,240 --> 02:11:34,400
earlier.
So I just want to make sure

2283
02:11:34,400 --> 02:11:37,880
people can see that there,
there's a lot of stuff here

2284
02:11:38,160 --> 02:11:42,000
where they're very, very open
about their research, very open

2285
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:46,920
about the research.
Now, whether or not this is like

2286
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:52,640
you said, a, a mutant human.
I, I know a lot more about this

2287
02:11:52,640 --> 02:11:54,360
than what we're talking about
right now.

2288
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:57,840
And for the sake of it being
already 2 hours and 15 minutes

2289
02:11:57,840 --> 02:12:00,680
into the show, I'm not going to
dive into it.

2290
02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:03,000
Maybe we can on another day.
Yeah, that'd be cool.

2291
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:05,280
But.
It's pretty dope.

2292
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:07,160
That's strange.
I like it.

2293
02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:11,280
I wouldn't mind diving into it.
I just, I just, I still don't

2294
02:12:11,280 --> 02:12:13,280
think that's real.
I really don't.

2295
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:18,440
I, I definitely think that
there's it's, it's a, it's a

2296
02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:22,160
biological entity.
And when you start seeing

2297
02:12:22,280 --> 02:12:25,360
pictures like, where is it?
Could it be an animal like a

2298
02:12:25,360 --> 02:12:28,800
monkey that just I mean it?
I mean, maybe, maybe.

2299
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:32,640
There's there's dozen species of
hominids, right, dozens of

2300
02:12:32,640 --> 02:12:35,640
species, but like even like even
but, but if you look at those

2301
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:39,120
different dozens of species, we
don't have 3 fingered 3 toed.

2302
02:12:39,680 --> 02:12:41,760
But look, these are bat fingers.
Like look.

2303
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:45,920
At this this this is this is not
this is not set up like a human

2304
02:12:46,240 --> 02:12:52,760
It's got a joint here 1234 on
each finger so they're.

2305
02:12:52,760 --> 02:12:54,280
Lemurs.
They're not humans.

2306
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:57,240
They're lemurs.
Being big lemurs, maybe they

2307
02:12:57,240 --> 02:13:01,200
were dead, maybe they were,
maybe they were fur, but they,

2308
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:04,640
you know, or maybe they had fur,
but there's still a lot of

2309
02:13:04,640 --> 02:13:07,160
things about them, man.
I'm telling you, there's a lot

2310
02:13:07,160 --> 02:13:11,720
of things about these things
that are very odd, very eerie,

2311
02:13:11,720 --> 02:13:14,920
very.
What's the word I'm thinking of?

2312
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:18,000
Those have eyes their.
Parents were from West Virginia.

2313
02:13:18,920 --> 02:13:24,080
No, no, my brains fried because
of you guys, canny.

2314
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:30,400
It's very uncanny, you know?
Anyways.

2315
02:13:31,040 --> 02:13:34,680
Well, it's a plaster.
But it's not, I'm telling you,

2316
02:13:34,680 --> 02:13:38,320
man, it's not like you should
like take some time, man.

2317
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:42,440
Check, check these things out.
There is a ton of stuff on this

2318
02:13:42,440 --> 02:13:45,880
website where it gets into like
the biological breakdown, the

2319
02:13:45,880 --> 02:13:48,320
studies and they're updating it
all the time.

2320
02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:51,160
All the time.
They're updating the information

2321
02:13:51,160 --> 02:13:52,960
on this website.
It's absolutely incredible.

2322
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:56,480
I have I have this thing
bookmarked on on my on my

2323
02:13:56,480 --> 02:13:58,320
computer just because I like
checking it out.

2324
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:01,520
I'll be fine with it as long as
they don't try to say that this

2325
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:04,360
is what we evolved from.
Because it wouldn't make any

2326
02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:08,200
sense to go from the previous
thing of like, oh, we found a

2327
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:10,760
tooth and we built an entire
skull around it with this giant

2328
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:14,920
cranium thing to then this that
has less toes and fingers and

2329
02:14:14,920 --> 02:14:17,200
then back to the other thing.
Right type stuff.

2330
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:22,040
It would just like, I could
totally see like this is another

2331
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:25,360
species and then they got
examples.

2332
02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:28,520
Like, like existed alongside us,
like Neanderthals and the

2333
02:14:28,520 --> 02:14:30,600
Denizovans.
Denizovans.

2334
02:14:30,600 --> 02:14:33,360
Is that what they're called?
Yeah, you're right.

2335
02:14:33,640 --> 02:14:36,360
If the Neanderthal existed, I
believe that they were just

2336
02:14:36,360 --> 02:14:41,840
another type of primate, not a
not an evolutionary step.

2337
02:14:42,520 --> 02:14:45,520
But there's like what, like over
30 different hominids or

2338
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:49,000
whatever that they have now or
some.

2339
02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:51,680
It's a crazy number.
It's a.

2340
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:53,880
Lot of various hominids that
they have.

2341
02:14:54,560 --> 02:14:56,680
Yeah.
They like so they range from

2342
02:14:56,680 --> 02:14:59,960
like 3 feet tall to 6 feet tall
over the course of whatever,

2343
02:14:59,960 --> 02:15:01,600
whatever.
So it's like a either way, a

2344
02:15:01,600 --> 02:15:03,960
species of hominid, but.
The problem is is that people

2345
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:07,040
range from three feet tall to
There's a guy in my Bible study

2346
02:15:07,040 --> 02:15:10,600
this morning at six nine.
Damn, it's like people like that

2347
02:15:10,600 --> 02:15:12,560
exists.
He's not anarchy.

2348
02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:14,320
That's.
A big dude.

2349
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:16,720
Man, crazy that guy was.
He's in disguise.

2350
02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:21,040
I think we need to bring him in
and start grilling him about

2351
02:15:21,040 --> 02:15:22,960
aliens.
We might give something up.

2352
02:15:23,960 --> 02:15:27,400
Anyways, I didn't mean to start
all that, but just because it's

2353
02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:29,880
been brought up multiple Times
Now, I was like, let's just,

2354
02:15:30,080 --> 02:15:31,200
well, hey.
Throw this out there.

2355
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:33,000
Helps me out if you.
Don't want us to ask questions.

2356
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:36,280
Why you show it to us?
I listen to, I listen to your

2357
02:15:36,280 --> 02:15:38,520
thing that you had when you're
kind of running on your own

2358
02:15:38,520 --> 02:15:40,160
there for a little bit and you
were talking about the

2359
02:15:40,160 --> 02:15:42,080
tridactyls.
I was like, he's bringing this

2360
02:15:42,080 --> 02:15:45,360
garbage up again.
I'm in my garage by myself, like

2361
02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:50,360
looking at my car, like, really?
So yeah, that makes sense.

2362
02:15:50,360 --> 02:15:52,880
I'm glad you did that because I
thought you were just crazy.

2363
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:55,960
I was like this, this, this is
the thing I was dying on.

2364
02:15:55,960 --> 02:16:04,560
This is.
Yeah, but so just just for one

2365
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:07,520
more time, for shits and
giggles, this is what Jake's

2366
02:16:07,680 --> 02:16:10,960
thought I was dying on.
This is this is what he was

2367
02:16:10,960 --> 02:16:12,560
like.
This is what he's dying.

2368
02:16:13,160 --> 02:16:16,960
This right here.
Oh yeah, Those things, because

2369
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:18,320
that's what they originally
reported on.

2370
02:16:18,320 --> 02:16:21,200
We reported on that because that
is what was out.

2371
02:16:21,240 --> 02:16:24,040
That that was the information I
was out was these stupid fucking

2372
02:16:24,040 --> 02:16:26,600
things.
And yes, those are obviously

2373
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:30,720
fake.
Like that's stupid anyways.

2374
02:16:31,280 --> 02:16:33,200
Looks like they made them out of
Tupperware and plaster.

2375
02:16:33,680 --> 02:16:35,320
And I yeah, they probably did.
Oh.

2376
02:16:36,120 --> 02:16:38,240
I'm sorry, I was muted there,
but no, no, Jeremy was like,

2377
02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:39,639
this is it?
This is the missing link.

2378
02:16:39,639 --> 02:16:41,200
I was like, no, Jeremy, this is
BS.

2379
02:16:41,200 --> 02:16:42,959
That's that's lies right there.
That's what that.

2380
02:16:44,320 --> 02:16:50,040
Is to see.
Well, oh, it was such, it was

2381
02:16:50,040 --> 02:16:52,680
such a confusing time because
there was multiple reports out

2382
02:16:52,680 --> 02:16:55,040
about multiple different things.
People were doing tests on these

2383
02:16:55,040 --> 02:16:57,600
fucking yes, they were made of
chicken bones.

2384
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:01,120
Yes, that what we just looked at
right there was made of

2385
02:17:01,120 --> 02:17:04,680
bullshit.
But there were also reports

2386
02:17:04,680 --> 02:17:10,160
coming out of, of the, the, the
authentic tridactyls as well,

2387
02:17:10,559 --> 02:17:13,280
like they were both coming out
at the exact same time.

2388
02:17:13,559 --> 02:17:17,240
And so the, the lore connects in
a way.

2389
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:20,280
Like there is some lore behind
this that people created those

2390
02:17:20,559 --> 02:17:25,280
those bullshit ones to mimic the
the real tridactyls to sell as

2391
02:17:25,280 --> 02:17:27,440
like souvenirs and stuff like
that.

2392
02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:31,200
They just had like an ancient
guy from like science and a lamb

2393
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:32,000
like an.
Ancient.

2394
02:17:33,400 --> 02:17:36,320
An ancient wild bill and he just
like pieced bones together and

2395
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:40,680
he was like, I need skin.
And it's like wrapped it around

2396
02:17:40,680 --> 02:17:42,959
there and then like folded them
up and put them in The Cave.

2397
02:17:42,959 --> 02:17:46,160
And it was like it was, it was
performance art back then, you

2398
02:17:46,480 --> 02:17:48,400
know, people.
Have a standing right there with

2399
02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:50,520
A tag on it that says hello my
name is bullshit all.

2400
02:17:54,120 --> 02:17:57,040
Right, all right, all right, all
right, all right.

2401
02:17:57,280 --> 02:18:00,160
Before I do the outro, does
anybody else have anything else

2402
02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:01,400
to say?
Final words.

2403
02:18:01,879 --> 02:18:04,080
Tackles are fake.
No, they're not.

2404
02:18:08,559 --> 02:18:09,680
I'm not so.
Space.

2405
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:13,000
Great episode.
Yeah, I thought it was.

2406
02:18:13,000 --> 02:18:15,080
I thought it was too.
No, this was a lot of fun, guys.

2407
02:18:15,160 --> 02:18:18,760
I had a good time tonight.
So that's it for this week's

2408
02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:21,400
Fringe News briefing.
We covered a lot of ground

2409
02:18:21,400 --> 02:18:23,680
today.
Scientists in Romania revived

2410
02:18:23,680 --> 02:18:27,959
5000 year old bacteria from an
ice cave that's resistant to 10

2411
02:18:27,959 --> 02:18:31,680
modern antibiotics, raising
questions about antibiotic

2412
02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:36,040
resistance, ancient life, and
whether panspermia theory might

2413
02:18:36,040 --> 02:18:38,240
explain where the genetic code
came from.

2414
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:42,120
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth
confirmed the Pentagon is

2415
02:18:42,120 --> 02:18:45,280
actively working on Trump's UFO
declassification order.

2416
02:18:45,639 --> 02:18:48,559
Arrow's caseload has surpassed
2000 cases.

2417
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:52,719
The disclosure timeline is
moving forward, and the question

2418
02:18:52,719 --> 02:18:55,240
now is what actually gets
released and when.

2419
02:18:55,840 --> 02:19:01,240
NASA released stunning images of
a brain shaped nebula called the

2420
02:19:01,240 --> 02:19:04,240
Exposed Cranium, reviving
theories that the universe

2421
02:19:04,240 --> 02:19:08,000
itself might be a living,
conscious Organism.

2422
02:19:08,320 --> 02:19:12,840
Whether it's just pareidolia or
something deeper, the images are

2423
02:19:12,840 --> 02:19:15,879
haunting.
And we went deep on Antonio

2424
02:19:15,879 --> 02:19:20,280
Ambrosios paper claiming the
Great Pyramids of Giza are

2425
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:24,400
12,000 years old, built by a
lawsuit for civilization with

2426
02:19:24,400 --> 02:19:27,520
advanced technology.
The engineering precision, the

2427
02:19:27,520 --> 02:19:30,680
lack of mummies, the water
erosion, almost Sphinx, the

2428
02:19:30,680 --> 02:19:34,879
underground structures beneath
Giza, and the Egyptian mythology

2429
02:19:34,879 --> 02:19:38,920
of Zptepe all point to something
we don't fully understand.

2430
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:42,440
Mainstream archaeology rejects
the claim, but the questions

2431
02:19:42,440 --> 02:19:44,360
remain.
So what do you think?

2432
02:19:44,959 --> 02:19:46,959
Are we on the verge of rewriting
human history?

2433
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:50,720
Is the Pentagon about to confirm
what UFO researchers have been

2434
02:19:50,720 --> 02:19:53,520
saying for decades?
Is the universe alive?

2435
02:19:53,960 --> 02:19:57,320
Leave a comment.
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2436
02:19:57,560 --> 02:19:59,800
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2437
02:20:00,400 --> 02:20:03,200
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2438
02:20:03,200 --> 02:20:05,560
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It helps more people find the

2439
02:20:05,560 --> 02:20:07,800
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Next week, another briefing,

2440
02:20:08,000 --> 02:20:11,320
more stories from the fringes,
another deep dive into something

2441
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:14,720
the mainstream won't touch.
Until then, keep questioning,

2442
02:20:14,880 --> 02:20:18,120
keep investigating, and remember
the most important mysteries

2443
02:20:18,120 --> 02:20:21,040
aren't the ones we've solved.
They're the ones we're brave

2444
02:20:21,040 --> 02:20:23,880
enough to ask about.
This has been infinite rabbit

2445
02:20:23,880 --> 02:20:25,640
hole.
I'm Jeremy Social with Jake and

2446
02:20:25,640 --> 02:20:29,480
CJ, and until next time,
travelers will see you right

2447
02:20:29,480 --> 02:20:32,720
here in the next fork in the
bath of the infinite rabbit

2448
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:34,080
hole.
Bye everybody.

2449
02:20:34,560 --> 02:20:36,520
Bye.
Well.

2450
02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:39,320
Bye.
Well.