Aug. 4, 2023
143. Reptoids of Cryptozoology
Sometimes there's things that you will come across in your life that just don’t make much sense and dealing with an unknown upright walking giant Ape in the woods of North America is hard enough to believe, I get it. But what about those other creatures that are reported with regularity throughout time. Ones that fly, swim, warp in and out of this dimension. What about Giant moths, or ancient prehistoric giants, birds or dinosaurs that soar through the sky and are reported in different geographical areas and different times to have swooped down just to grab a family pet or worse, sometimes it's an actual member of the family. Out of all of the things that go bump in the night, there is one category that really trips me up. One that is shaped like us, walks like us, and may even think like us. But one thing is for sure, it doesn’t look like us and it for sure didn’t come from our family tree. Nope, these things remind us more about lizards, amphibians, reptilian aliens, and even dinosaurs. These are the things really going bump in the night, the things that are truly made of nightmare fuel, the things that could possibly be another evolutionary line of a dinosaur or lizard that we are completely unaware of that could have potentially evolved intelligence as good or better than ours. These are the Reptoids of the Cryptozoological world.
Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole.
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Sometimes there's things that
you will come across in your
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life that just don't make much
sense, and dealing with an
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unknown, upright walking giant
ape in the woods in North
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America is hard enough to
believe.
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I get it.
But what about those other
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creatures that reported with
regularity throughout time?
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Ones that fly, swim, warp in and
out of the other dimensions?
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What about giant moths?
Or ancient prehistoric giants,
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birds Or dinosaurs that soar
through the open sky.
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They're reported in different
geographical areas and different
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times to have swooped down just
to grab a family pet.
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Or worse, sometimes it's an
actual member of the family.
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Yeah, there's plenty of strange
stories to go around that you
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could ponder over and debate.
Trust me, I do it all the time.
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Out of all the things that go
bump in the night, there is one
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category that really trips me
up.
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One that just for some reason
doesn't seem biologically
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possible at all.
One that is shaped like us,
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walks like us, and may even
think like us.
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But one thing is for sure, it
doesn't look like us and for
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sure didn't come from our family
tree.
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Nope.
These things remind us more of
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lizards, phibians, reptilian
aliens, and even dinosaurs.
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These are the things that really
go bump in the night.
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The things that are truly made
of nightmare fuel.
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The things that could possibly
be another evolutionary line of
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a dinosaur or lizard that we
were completely unaware of that
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could have potentially evolved
intelligence as good or better
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than ours.
These are the reptoids of the
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cryptidological world.
Welcome back to the rabbit hole.
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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rapid hole, everybody.
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I'm your host, Jeremy today.
Dive into the world of the
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Reptoids.
Well, last week we talked about
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the Bishopville lizard, man.
Yeah, well, that's by far the
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most famous and the biggest
legend when it comes to reptoids
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in the cryptozoological world.
But what about all the little
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ones?
What about all the ones that are
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mentioned once, twice, maybe
three times, maybe, maybe a
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little bit more.
But nothing near as much as the
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Bishopville lizard.
Man, there's a lot of them,
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trust me.
There's a lot, and I did my due
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diligence to kind of put it all
together for you.
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So hang tight, travelers.
These are the reptoids of
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cryptozoology.
Enjoy Charles Wetzel's encounter
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on November 8th.
In 1958, a man by the name of
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Charles Wetzel was on drive and
is 1952 Buick along N Main St.
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in Riverside, CA.
As he approached the area of the
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road that calmly succumbs to the
rising waters of the Santa Ana
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River, Wetzel slowed his car as
he approached the deep water and
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slowly began making his way
through the flood.
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He was coming up to the sign on
the side of the road that warns
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drivers of the rising waters
when his radio began to become
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very staticky.
He was turning the dial to tune
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to a new station, and he noticed
a creature standing roughly 6
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feet tall making its way into
the middle of his side of the
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street.
In response, Wetzel slammed the
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brakes and watched and awes.
Whatever it was began to come
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closer and just stared at
Charles as he grew nervous.
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The creature was described by
Wetzel as having a quote UN
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quote round scarecrowish head
with a beaked mouth and
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reflective eyes, and as far as
he could tell, it had no nose or
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ears.
As the creature began to climb
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onto the hood of his car from
the front driver's side, Wetzel
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was able to notice that the skin
of the creature was scaly in
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texture as the creature began
clawing at the windshield.
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Charles reached for his 22 that
he kept on him at all times and
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aimed at the creature in an
attempt to scare it off, but the
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creature showed no signs of
fear.
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Wetzel then made the decision to
get the hell out of Dodge in
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Florida.
The creature fell off the hood
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as the car made an initial lurch
forward and was run over by
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Wetzel as he drove off as fast
as he could.
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Wetzel went directly to the
local police and reported the
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incident, but the police found
no evidence that anything had
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happened at the scene.
But the discovery of marks on
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his windshield, streaks of
grease missing from his oil pan
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on the bottom of his car, proved
that something was there and
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that he did seem to run over it.
The very next night, another
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motorist on the same St. also
reported seeing a tall, dark,
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shadowy quote, UN quote,
something run across the road,
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the theus Lake Monster, on
August 19th, 1972 at thetus Lake
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in British Columbia, Canada.
Teenagers Gordon Pike and Robin
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Flulen were standing on the
shore of the lake when a roughly
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5 foot tall humanoid creature
erupted out of the water and
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began running after them.
The Victoria Daily Times
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reported that the teenagers were
able to successfully get away,
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but not before one of them
suffered a nasty scratch on his
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hand, which apparently was
caused when the creature cut the
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boy with a sharp spike
protruding from its head.
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Both teenagers described the
creature as having a scaly body,
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webbed hands and feet.
A very.
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Dark head with large fish like
eyes.
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The boys first reported the
events of the Royal Canadian
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Mounted Police, who took the
encounter serious enough to
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actually investigate the event.
Unfortunately, nothing came to
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the investigation.
Four days later on August 23rd,
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young boys by the name of
Russell Van Dys and Mike Gold
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were fishing at Thetas Lake when
they witnessed the creature poke
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its head out of the water and
look around.
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When the creature resubmerged,
the boys ran away.
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Both children described the
creature as having a silvery
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body with a large monster like
head, deep black eyes, and large
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ears.
Again, the police investigated
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but found nothing.
Unfortunately, when Russell Van
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Nuys was 49 years old, he
claimed in an interview that it
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was all lie and it was all Mike
Gold's idea to capitalize on the
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recent report of the creature
attacking a few older kids from
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the area days before.
No.
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In the summer of 2006, a
freshwater professional fishing
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instructor for the Freshwater
Fisheries Society of British
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Columbia by the name of Jesse
Martin was spending the day
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fishing for the shores of Fetus
Lake.
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Just before the sun went down,
Jesse decided a few more casts
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wouldn't hurt before he packed
up and headed to the now empty
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parking lot.
As he was loading his gear into
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his Ford Mustang, Jesse was
alerted to movement in the
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shrubs nearby.
A little unnerved Jesse got into
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the front seat and turned on the
car, and as he looked into the
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rearview mirror, Jesse was
surprised to see a large man
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like figure running on two legs
towards the back of his car as
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he peeled out of the parking
lot.
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Whatever it was seemed to have
tried to unsuccessfully grab
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onto the passenger side of the
car.
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When Jesse got home, he was yet
again surprised to see five
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scratch marks down the side of
his passenger side door with
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what looked like fish scales
speckled in within the area of
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the print Gator man.
Along the banks of the
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swamplands through the southern
United States, another reptilian
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of sorts has made itself known
with a few different
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communities.
Gator men are pretty much what
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they sound like.
Standing at roughly 5 feet tall,
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the Gator men are described as
having a human child sized torso
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before it tapers off into a
thick Gator like pale 4 stubby
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Gator Legs protrude from its
compact mid body and sport web
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toes and fingers.
They also come equipped with
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dark green or black scales and a
nice row of razor sharp teeth.
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Legend goes that they move under
the cover of darkness in groups
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of five or six, traversing the
lakes and waterways from Texas
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to the Carolinas and becking in.
They're even said to enjoy raw
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meat most of all, but can also
survive on nuts, dry leaves and
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fruit.
Reports of these creatures are
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most plentiful from the 1700s
around the Florida Everglades,
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but have been reported
sporadically throughout history
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in various locations along the
Gulf States and a few inland
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swampy areas as well.
South America even has their own
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Gator Man, in which they
referred to as Hombre Cayman and
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said to possess both features of
alligator and man.
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The legend describes that Hombre
Cayman was once a fisherman who
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fell for a trick of a water
spirit.
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But the best documented cases of
such creatures come from the
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most unsuspected areas of the
United States.
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In 1973, reports of Gator men
were popping up in the Newton
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Lafayette area of New Jersey,
and in 1977, New York State
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conservation naturalist Alfred
Holstruck claimed that there was
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a well known man alligator
creature that would exit the
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waters of southern portions of
the state to feed on the shores
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of various bodies of water.
In 1974, an unnamed man was
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driving around White Meadow Lake
in the Rockaway Township of New
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Jersey when his headlights fell
upon a large reptoid on the side
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of the road.
Although the creature had its
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back towards the road, he could
tell that the scaly skin was
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greenish in color, and as he
approached closer, the animal
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turned its head towards the left
to reveal large bulging eyes and
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a lipless reptilian mouth.
The consensus on the Gator Man
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seems to be that this is more or
less folklore, born from the
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early years in the areas
bordering the Everglades in
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South Florida.
But who knows, maybe this could
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be the earliest depictions of
what would later be referred to
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as lizard men, reptilian aliens.
And of course, we cannot end
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this section on Gatorman without
touching on the most famous of
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them all, Jake the Alligator
Man.
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Now Jake isn't like the Gator
Man previously mentioned, it
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just so happens that it shares a
name with them.
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The most recent place I could
find displaying Jake is the
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Marshes Free Museum on Pacific
Ave. in Long Beach, WA.
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Go ahead and Google Jake the
Alligator Man and stare in all
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what literally looks like a
human torso and a head merge
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with an Alligators lower half.
Chupacabras.
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A list of reptoids would not be
complete without at least
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mentioning the absolute most
famous of them all, El
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Chupacabras.
Yes, it is true that the
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American chupacabra is
considered to be more candid in
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nature, but the original one
reported in Puerto Rico in the
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1970s and the one that is now
active in Central and South
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America has a more common
description of being reptilian
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or alien in nature.
And I'm going to have to stop
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the coverage on this particular
Cryptid right here and now,
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since the topic deserves an
entire episode all to itself, if
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not a two or three-part series,
I just wanted to include it in
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this list of possible reptile
creatures.
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More to come.
Others Most cases of upright
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walking reptiles come in the
form of 1 off reports that never
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get grouped into a large
collection which ultimately
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depicts a new addition to the
world of cryptozoology.
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I was able to gather as many of
these stories as possible for
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you.
In 1937, man was fishing from
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his boat near Saginaw, MI when
he witnessed the man with
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reptile attributes come out of
the water on two legs, lean up
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against a tree for a few
minutes, and reenter the water.
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The man reported the encounter
to the police with no evidence
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or followup sightings had ever
occurred.
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In October 1954, a man by the
name of Renzo Pugina of
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Peravocino de Urba, Italy, was
terrified when he walked out of
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his house in the morning and
came face to face with a large,
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bipedal man covered in scaly
skin.
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The creature reacted quickly and
hastily, flew away.
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After reporting the incident,
the police did find a spot on
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his lawn that was covered in an
unidentifiable thick, oily
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substance.
In August of 1955, Miss Darwin
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Johnson was swimming in the Ohio
River near Evansville IN when
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she was grabbed from below the
water by what she described as a
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very rough hand with an
incredible grip.
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As she pulled herself out of the
water, a friend of hers made
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Johnson aware that her leg now
had a green spot on it.
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To Miss Johnson's surprise, this
is where the creature had
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grabbed her.
Lauren Coleman, a world renowned
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cryptozoologist, was one of the
people who had an opportunity to
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investigate this report.
In his book Mysterious America,
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Lauren includes that it is his
honest opinion that this woman
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was the victim of an attempted
attack by a reptilian man.
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In 1966, a nine year old boy in
Stevensport, Kentucky woke at
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about 1:00 AM to a loud sound
outside his bedroom window.
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Unfortunately, he was unable to
see anything, so he headed
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downstairs and pulled back the
curtain in the living room and
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was terrified of what he saw.
The witness was 49 years old
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when he was interviewed by
Charlie Raymond, founder of the
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Kentucky Bigfoot Research
Organization.
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In the interview, he described A
brownish green creature that,
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incredibly, looked more like a
reptile than a human.
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It had scaly skin, webbed hands,
and the only thing human about
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it was that it stood on 2 legs.
Charlie guesstimated that the
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creature stood anywhere between
5 1/2 to 6 feet tall.
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As the boy and the creature made
eye contact, it turned and ran
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on two legs towards Sinking
Creek, which boarded his
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property at the time.
He would continue to describe
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how the creature had a set of
what looks like gills hanging
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off of its jaw bone down to its
shoulders, small black eyes and
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a Ridge of flesh that began in
its forehead and traveled to the
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back of his neck.
Another encounter with a quote
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UN quote Frog Man was reported
just north of Little Rock, AR,
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in 1952 at Lake Conway by a man
named George Dillon.
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George was fishing with his
trout line on his February
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morning when an area of his line
seemed to have been snagged on
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something.
He pulled hard and was shocked
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to see that what was attached to
his hooks wasn't a large fish or
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an underwater relic, but rather
a large aquatic creature that he
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was completely unfamiliar with.
As he pulled, he noticed that
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whatever it was, it was snagged
in the mouth by one of his
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hooks, and the thing was making
a sad attempt trying to dislodge
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the hook with its tongue.
The things had flailed around as
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if it was extremely scared and
reached out and eventually put a
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hand on George's boat.
The skin was green and spotted
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and reminded George of a frog,
but the head was more like that
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of a monkey with a sharp
jawline, blue lips and a
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toothless mouth.
George claimed that the creature
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must have weighed about £80 and
that it had very broad shoulders
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and a haunched back.
The thing eventually freed
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itself and swim away.
In Wisconsin, sometime in the
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mid 90s, a Wisconsin Department
of Natural Resource game warden
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was traveling along Hwy. 13 near
Medford when a figure was
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spotted standing in the middle
of the road.
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As the warden approached, he
could see that whatever it was
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had scaly green skin, and just
as surprised as he was to see
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the creature, he was also
surprised that it unfolded large
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wings from his back and took off
into the air.
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The creature landed just behind
the warden's truck and stood
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there for a few seconds before
taking off again permanently.
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But roughly around the same
time.
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Unfortunately, it is unclear as
to whether it was before or
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after the Warden's encounter.
Another group of men working at
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a construction site off of the
same Rd. witnessed a creature
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that they described as being
exactly like the one seen by the
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Warden.
The creature sprouted wings and
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flew above the canopy of the
trees surrounding the work site,
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and the men never saw it again
in December of 1988.
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Two Italian men, a farmer and
security guard, had encounters
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with reptilian men on two
different occasions.
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The encounter that the farmer
reported was during the night
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and the creature had serpent
like eyes and briefly chase
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after the witness before leaving
the area.
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The second was only seen briefly
and it fled into the nearby tree
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line.
And in 1993, a couple out
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looking for their lost dog in
Lacrosse, Wisconsin, were
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stunned when I discovered what
looked like to be a very large
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bipedal creature with brown
scales covering its entire body.
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The witness claimed that the
creature had bright yellow eyes
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with thin slits when their
flashlights shined on its face
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old three toes between February
and October in 1948, the Tampa
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Bay area of Florida found itself
with a mystery of its own.
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Hundreds of large 3 toed tracks
were being found throughout the
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area and extended slightly N
into the Panhandle of the state
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as well, although most of the
witnesses reported spotting a
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large creature with a rhinoceros
like head.
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The three toed footprints are
synonymous with dinosaurs such
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as Raptors.
The creature eventually became
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known throughout the Gulf Coast
communities as Old Three Toes
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and the area was on high alert
for almost an entire year.
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The case that really sparked
fear when it came to Old Three
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Toes was in February in 1948,
when on Clearwater Beach, a
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young couple had parked their
car and witnessed a large
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creature exiting the water
before fleeing and reporting the
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sighting to the local police.
When officers arrived, there
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were in fact dozens of three
towed tracks along that specific
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section of the beach that looked
as if the creature came in and
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out of the water numerous times
before heading back in for good.
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The very next morning, more
people reported that the track
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for Beck Upon arrival, officers
yet again discovered similar
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footprints in almost the exact
same area.
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In March, a third set was found
on another beach only a mile
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away from the original set that
was tracked for over 100 yards
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before it disappeared in the
grass.
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This was followed by another
trackway showing up on Dan's
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Island on March 20th and another
track on April 3rd, and Indian
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Rocks Beach just 10 miles South
of Clearwater, with yet another
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one showing up in the same area
on April 8th.
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On July 25th, pilots John Milner
and George Orphanides were
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flying around the area of Hog
Island when two men spotted a
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very large, strange creature
swimming around with legs like
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an alligator just 200 feet
offshore.
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The pilots described it as
having a very thick and large
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build and a proportionally sized
tail, but the strange thing
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about their sighting was that
they described it as having hair
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all over its body.
Many people took this report
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very seriously, but some were
saying that the thing must have
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been caught up in seaweed as
there were no sea animals long
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hair in the area.
Two more sightings came in after
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the pilot sighting, one of which
was from a couple on vacation
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from Wisconsin in August.
This sighting is where the
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famous rhinoceros had
description comes from.
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And the less known sighting was
in Chieftain near the Swanee
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River in October of 1948 before
Old Three Toes disappeared for
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good.
Now Florida was not the only
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place in history to have such
sightings and reports of a large
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amount of three toed footprints
being found on beaches.
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Years earlier in the 30s, three
Toed tracks were found beaches
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in New Zealand, Queensland,
Tasmania, Australia, Argentina,
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Nantucket, Island and South
Africa.
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So what are they?
Obviously we cannot engulf all
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of these creatures into one
category, as they are from
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different times, different
spaces and different
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descriptions.
But what we can do is talk about
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the possibilities as a whole.
One such possibility is that
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they are known creatures.
Could some of these be actual
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alligators?
Perhaps bats?
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Maybe large fish such as a
sturgeon?
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One of my favorites for a lot of
lizard encounters is the theory
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that these could merely be
Sasquatch that have been covered
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in hardened mud, which may give
the look of scaly, possibly Moss
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or lichen covered green skin.
I mean the statures, right?
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A lot of these creatures are
extremely tall.
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What about tyrannodons?
Specifically the one where the
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warden spots are flying
artillian in the middle of the
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road?
Could this be a prehistoric
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remnant?
What about exotic pets?
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One theory about the Fetus Lake
monster is that it is a Teague
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lizard that was reported lost by
a local man a year earlier.
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But that really couldn't be,
since exotic reptiles have zero
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chance of surviving the harsh
Canadian winters.
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In fact, a lot of these stories,
like the ones from New York,
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Jersey, Michigan, and Wisconsin
may be in climates that are just
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too cold for reptile live in
period.
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What about hoaxes?
Maybe.
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In fact, most would probably say
yes, that they are 100% all
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hoaxes.
Although I'm not blind to the
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fact that humans do stupid
things for stupid reasons, I
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would like to think that if
anything was wrongly reported,
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it would be a case of
misidentification instead of a
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hoax.
But sadly that is most likely
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not the case.
Let's head on over to the other
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side of the pool really quick.
Let's ask the question, highly
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regarded in the world of
conspiracy, what about the idea
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that some of these could be the
feral brethren of the famed
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reptilian beings?
They're said to control the
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politics of the world.
How about an ancient race of
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dinosaurs?
What if a small population of
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velociraptors or previously
mentioned tyrannodons evolved in
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a similar fashion to humans and
became bi people in a very slim
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population exists today like
that of the Sasquatch?
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In Lyle Blackburn's book Lizard
Man, the true story of the
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Bishop Feld monster, Lyle
describes how men by the names
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DA Russell and our sequin
published a paper in the
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National Museum of Canada's
Solagius #37 in 1982 that
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describes how the Cretaceous
dinosaur known as the
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Staniocasaurus in Eculus, more
commonly known as Trudon, was
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famously known as having a very
large brain compared to its
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dinosaur brethren.
And if not for the Mesozoic
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extinctions of a very large
amount of living species on
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Earth, they may have developed a
brain similar to that of humans.
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If you look up what a true down
looks like, you'll notice that
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this creature was bipedal and
very similar to looking like a
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velociraptor.
So if it was given enough time
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to evolve, such as we had, it
would not be such a far stretch
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to think that these creatures
could have been formed in
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something resembling that of
Gatorman or the Lizard Man of
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Bishopville.
Or what if they are just what
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they are categorized as?
Cryptids, an undiscovered
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species of animal yet to be
categorized by science?
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Personally, this one's my
favorite, but unfortunately it
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is most likely not the case.
It wouldn't be right to
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introduce you to the strange
group of lizard men, weaned
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lizardoids and dynoids without
at least mentioning that a lot
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of these amazing reports came
around the time where there was
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a craze going on in pop culture.
The list of movies alone
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depicting a man in the lizard
costume of sorts is incredibly
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long for this time period.
The Creature from the Black
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Lagoon in 1954, The Revenge of
the Creature from 1957,
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Alligator People of 1959, The
Hideous Sun Demon, also from
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1959, The Reptile in 66, Knight
of the Cobra Woman in 72, and
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The Legend of Gatorface in 1996.
So it may be safe to say that
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most, if not all the people who
have reported a Lizard Man of
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sorts did have some sort of
recollection of what it might
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actually look like just from the
movies alone.
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Is this the answer to all of our
reports?
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Most likely not all of them, but
some of them.
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Very good chance at being a
simple stretch of the
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imagination.
But almost 10 years before the
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invention, the first movie
camera newspapers were reporting
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in October of 1878 that a wild
man had been caught in a rural
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area of Tennessee and was being
transported by railway to
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Louisiana, Kentucky for a public
display.
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A rather large news story at the
time was spreading throughout
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the nation at the speed of black
and white that this wild man
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they were calling it had a layer
of scales all over his body
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which would fall off at regular
occurrences around spring and
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fall.
The creature also came equipped
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with a head full of hair, a
fully grown wild man beard, huge
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eyes, easily doubled the size of
humans and stood 6 foot 5 inches
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tall with webbed toes.
The daily care for this man
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included regular housings to
keep its skin damp and a diet
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raw fish and cooked meat.
Apparently fish was the only
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thing he could eat raw.
A report that surfaced a few
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months later in February in 1879
described the man as old and
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withered with a Gray sickly tone
to his skin.
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Dead looking hair and a blushed
face.
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But then the report went on to
explain that he was happily
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married with several children,
and local doctors discovered
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that he was in fact a man with a
skin disease referred to as
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ichthyosis.
Ichthyosis is now a known skin
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disease that gives the skin an
appearance of being scaly.
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If you're sensitive to the
thought of newborns with
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unfortunate physical
deformities, I would recommend
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not Googling this disease.
Some of the pictures of the
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infants with ichthyosis.
It's heartbreaking.
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Just don't do it.
I added this part as a last bit
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of relative information, so you
may have all the tools needed to
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decide for yourself what each of
these creatures may have
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actually been.
All right, travelers, we have
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one more case to look at.
Next week, we dive into the
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first installment of the
Infinite Rabbit Hole mini doc
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series.
The Loveland Frogman.
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This will wrap up our coverage
of all things reptoids and
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cryptozoology.
Of course, there are the
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Reptilians of both underground
and the far corners of space,
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but those are completely
different subjects altogether.
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So hang tight kids, we're going
to get weird and one day we will
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jump into reptilian world.
But until then, Next week,
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Frogman, thank you once again
and I'll see you next.
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As the timeline, you into this
tangent creating an alternate
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1985 alternate.
You need an Einstein for
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everyone else.
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Sometimes there's things that
you will come across in your
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life that just don't make much
sense, and dealing with an
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unknown, upright walking giant
ape in the woods in North
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America is hard enough to
believe.
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I get it.
But what about those other
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creatures that reported with
regularity throughout time?
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Ones that fly, swim, warp in and
out of the other dimensions?
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What about giant moths?
Or ancient prehistoric giants,
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birds Or dinosaurs that soar
through the open sky.
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They're reported in different
geographical areas and different
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times to have swooped down just
to grab a family pet.
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Or worse, sometimes it's an
actual member of the family.
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Yeah, there's plenty of strange
stories to go around that you
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could ponder over and debate.
Trust me, I do it all the time.
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Out of all the things that go
bump in the night, there is one
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category that really trips me
up.
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One that just for some reason
doesn't seem biologically
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possible at all.
One that is shaped like us,
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walks like us, and may even
think like us.
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But one thing is for sure, it
doesn't look like us and for
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sure didn't come from our family
tree.
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Nope.
These things remind us more of
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lizards, phibians, reptilian
aliens, and even dinosaurs.
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These are the things that really
go bump in the night.
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The things that are truly made
of nightmare fuel.
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The things that could possibly
be another evolutionary line of
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a dinosaur or lizard that we
were completely unaware of that
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could have potentially evolved
intelligence as good or better
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than ours.
These are the reptoids of the
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cryptidological world.
Welcome back to the rabbit hole.
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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rapid hole, everybody.
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I'm your host, Jeremy today.
Dive into the world of the
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Reptoids.
Well, last week we talked about
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the Bishopville lizard, man.
Yeah, well, that's by far the
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most famous and the biggest
legend when it comes to reptoids
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in the cryptozoological world.
But what about all the little
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ones?
What about all the ones that are
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mentioned once, twice, maybe
three times, maybe, maybe a
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little bit more.
But nothing near as much as the
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Bishopville lizard.
Man, there's a lot of them,
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trust me.
There's a lot, and I did my due
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diligence to kind of put it all
together for you.
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So hang tight, travelers.
These are the reptoids of
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cryptozoology.
Enjoy Charles Wetzel's encounter
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on November 8th.
In 1958, a man by the name of
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Charles Wetzel was on drive and
is 1952 Buick along N Main St.
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in Riverside, CA.
As he approached the area of the
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road that calmly succumbs to the
rising waters of the Santa Ana
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River, Wetzel slowed his car as
he approached the deep water and
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slowly began making his way
through the flood.
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He was coming up to the sign on
the side of the road that warns
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drivers of the rising waters
when his radio began to become
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very staticky.
He was turning the dial to tune
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to a new station, and he noticed
a creature standing roughly 6
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feet tall making its way into
the middle of his side of the
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street.
In response, Wetzel slammed the
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brakes and watched and awes.
Whatever it was began to come
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closer and just stared at
Charles as he grew nervous.
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The creature was described by
Wetzel as having a quote UN
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quote round scarecrowish head
with a beaked mouth and
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reflective eyes, and as far as
he could tell, it had no nose or
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ears.
As the creature began to climb
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onto the hood of his car from
the front driver's side, Wetzel
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was able to notice that the skin
of the creature was scaly in
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texture as the creature began
clawing at the windshield.
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Charles reached for his 22 that
he kept on him at all times and
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aimed at the creature in an
attempt to scare it off, but the
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creature showed no signs of
fear.
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Wetzel then made the decision to
get the hell out of Dodge in
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Florida.
The creature fell off the hood
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as the car made an initial lurch
forward and was run over by
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Wetzel as he drove off as fast
as he could.
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Wetzel went directly to the
local police and reported the
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incident, but the police found
no evidence that anything had
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happened at the scene.
But the discovery of marks on
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his windshield, streaks of
grease missing from his oil pan
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on the bottom of his car, proved
that something was there and
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that he did seem to run over it.
The very next night, another
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motorist on the same St. also
reported seeing a tall, dark,
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shadowy quote, UN quote,
something run across the road,
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the theus Lake Monster, on
August 19th, 1972 at thetus Lake
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in British Columbia, Canada.
Teenagers Gordon Pike and Robin
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Flulen were standing on the
shore of the lake when a roughly
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5 foot tall humanoid creature
erupted out of the water and
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began running after them.
The Victoria Daily Times
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reported that the teenagers were
able to successfully get away,
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but not before one of them
suffered a nasty scratch on his
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hand, which apparently was
caused when the creature cut the
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boy with a sharp spike
protruding from its head.
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Both teenagers described the
creature as having a scaly body,
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webbed hands and feet.
A very.
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Dark head with large fish like
eyes.
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The boys first reported the
events of the Royal Canadian
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Mounted Police, who took the
encounter serious enough to
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actually investigate the event.
Unfortunately, nothing came to
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the investigation.
Four days later on August 23rd,
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young boys by the name of
Russell Van Dys and Mike Gold
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were fishing at Thetas Lake when
they witnessed the creature poke
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its head out of the water and
look around.
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When the creature resubmerged,
the boys ran away.
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Both children described the
creature as having a silvery
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body with a large monster like
head, deep black eyes, and large
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ears.
Again, the police investigated
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but found nothing.
Unfortunately, when Russell Van
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Nuys was 49 years old, he
claimed in an interview that it
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was all lie and it was all Mike
Gold's idea to capitalize on the
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recent report of the creature
attacking a few older kids from
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the area days before.
No.
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In the summer of 2006, a
freshwater professional fishing
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instructor for the Freshwater
Fisheries Society of British
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Columbia by the name of Jesse
Martin was spending the day
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fishing for the shores of Fetus
Lake.
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Just before the sun went down,
Jesse decided a few more casts
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wouldn't hurt before he packed
up and headed to the now empty
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parking lot.
As he was loading his gear into
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his Ford Mustang, Jesse was
alerted to movement in the
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shrubs nearby.
A little unnerved Jesse got into
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the front seat and turned on the
car, and as he looked into the
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rearview mirror, Jesse was
surprised to see a large man
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like figure running on two legs
towards the back of his car as
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he peeled out of the parking
lot.
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Whatever it was seemed to have
tried to unsuccessfully grab
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onto the passenger side of the
car.
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When Jesse got home, he was yet
again surprised to see five
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scratch marks down the side of
his passenger side door with
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what looked like fish scales
speckled in within the area of
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the print Gator man.
Along the banks of the
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swamplands through the southern
United States, another reptilian
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of sorts has made itself known
with a few different
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communities.
Gator men are pretty much what
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they sound like.
Standing at roughly 5 feet tall,
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the Gator men are described as
having a human child sized torso
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before it tapers off into a
thick Gator like pale 4 stubby
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Gator Legs protrude from its
compact mid body and sport web
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toes and fingers.
They also come equipped with
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dark green or black scales and a
nice row of razor sharp teeth.
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Legend goes that they move under
the cover of darkness in groups
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of five or six, traversing the
lakes and waterways from Texas
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to the Carolinas and becking in.
They're even said to enjoy raw
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meat most of all, but can also
survive on nuts, dry leaves and
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fruit.
Reports of these creatures are
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most plentiful from the 1700s
around the Florida Everglades,
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but have been reported
sporadically throughout history
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in various locations along the
Gulf States and a few inland
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swampy areas as well.
South America even has their own
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Gator Man, in which they
referred to as Hombre Cayman and
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said to possess both features of
alligator and man.
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The legend describes that Hombre
Cayman was once a fisherman who
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fell for a trick of a water
spirit.
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But the best documented cases of
such creatures come from the
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most unsuspected areas of the
United States.
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In 1973, reports of Gator men
were popping up in the Newton
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Lafayette area of New Jersey,
and in 1977, New York State
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conservation naturalist Alfred
Holstruck claimed that there was
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a well known man alligator
creature that would exit the
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waters of southern portions of
the state to feed on the shores
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of various bodies of water.
In 1974, an unnamed man was
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driving around White Meadow Lake
in the Rockaway Township of New
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Jersey when his headlights fell
upon a large reptoid on the side
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of the road.
Although the creature had its
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back towards the road, he could
tell that the scaly skin was
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greenish in color, and as he
approached closer, the animal
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turned its head towards the left
to reveal large bulging eyes and
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a lipless reptilian mouth.
The consensus on the Gator Man
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seems to be that this is more or
less folklore, born from the
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early years in the areas
bordering the Everglades in
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South Florida.
But who knows, maybe this could
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be the earliest depictions of
what would later be referred to
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as lizard men, reptilian aliens.
And of course, we cannot end
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this section on Gatorman without
touching on the most famous of
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them all, Jake the Alligator
Man.
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Now Jake isn't like the Gator
Man previously mentioned, it
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just so happens that it shares a
name with them.
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The most recent place I could
find displaying Jake is the
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Marshes Free Museum on Pacific
Ave. in Long Beach, WA.
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Go ahead and Google Jake the
Alligator Man and stare in all
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what literally looks like a
human torso and a head merge
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with an Alligators lower half.
Chupacabras.
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A list of reptoids would not be
complete without at least
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mentioning the absolute most
famous of them all, El
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Chupacabras.
Yes, it is true that the
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American chupacabra is
considered to be more candid in
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nature, but the original one
reported in Puerto Rico in the
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1970s and the one that is now
active in Central and South
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America has a more common
description of being reptilian
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or alien in nature.
And I'm going to have to stop
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the coverage on this particular
Cryptid right here and now,
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since the topic deserves an
entire episode all to itself, if
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not a two or three-part series,
I just wanted to include it in
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this list of possible reptile
creatures.
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More to come.
Others Most cases of upright
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walking reptiles come in the
form of 1 off reports that never
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get grouped into a large
collection which ultimately
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depicts a new addition to the
world of cryptozoology.
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I was able to gather as many of
these stories as possible for
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you.
In 1937, man was fishing from
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his boat near Saginaw, MI when
he witnessed the man with
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reptile attributes come out of
the water on two legs, lean up
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against a tree for a few
minutes, and reenter the water.
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The man reported the encounter
to the police with no evidence
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or followup sightings had ever
occurred.
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In October 1954, a man by the
name of Renzo Pugina of
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Peravocino de Urba, Italy, was
terrified when he walked out of
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his house in the morning and
came face to face with a large,
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bipedal man covered in scaly
skin.
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The creature reacted quickly and
hastily, flew away.
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After reporting the incident,
the police did find a spot on
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his lawn that was covered in an
unidentifiable thick, oily
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substance.
In August of 1955, Miss Darwin
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Johnson was swimming in the Ohio
River near Evansville IN when
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she was grabbed from below the
water by what she described as a
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very rough hand with an
incredible grip.
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As she pulled herself out of the
water, a friend of hers made
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Johnson aware that her leg now
had a green spot on it.
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To Miss Johnson's surprise, this
is where the creature had
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grabbed her.
Lauren Coleman, a world renowned
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cryptozoologist, was one of the
people who had an opportunity to
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investigate this report.
In his book Mysterious America,
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Lauren includes that it is his
honest opinion that this woman
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was the victim of an attempted
attack by a reptilian man.
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In 1966, a nine year old boy in
Stevensport, Kentucky woke at
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about 1:00 AM to a loud sound
outside his bedroom window.
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Unfortunately, he was unable to
see anything, so he headed
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downstairs and pulled back the
curtain in the living room and
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was terrified of what he saw.
The witness was 49 years old
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when he was interviewed by
Charlie Raymond, founder of the
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Kentucky Bigfoot Research
Organization.
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In the interview, he described A
brownish green creature that,
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incredibly, looked more like a
reptile than a human.
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It had scaly skin, webbed hands,
and the only thing human about
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it was that it stood on 2 legs.
Charlie guesstimated that the
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creature stood anywhere between
5 1/2 to 6 feet tall.
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As the boy and the creature made
eye contact, it turned and ran
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on two legs towards Sinking
Creek, which boarded his
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property at the time.
He would continue to describe
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how the creature had a set of
what looks like gills hanging
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off of its jaw bone down to its
shoulders, small black eyes and
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a Ridge of flesh that began in
its forehead and traveled to the
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back of his neck.
Another encounter with a quote
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UN quote Frog Man was reported
just north of Little Rock, AR,
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in 1952 at Lake Conway by a man
named George Dillon.
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George was fishing with his
trout line on his February
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morning when an area of his line
seemed to have been snagged on
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something.
He pulled hard and was shocked
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to see that what was attached to
his hooks wasn't a large fish or
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an underwater relic, but rather
a large aquatic creature that he
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was completely unfamiliar with.
As he pulled, he noticed that
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whatever it was, it was snagged
in the mouth by one of his
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hooks, and the thing was making
a sad attempt trying to dislodge
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the hook with its tongue.
The things had flailed around as
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if it was extremely scared and
reached out and eventually put a
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hand on George's boat.
The skin was green and spotted
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and reminded George of a frog,
but the head was more like that
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of a monkey with a sharp
jawline, blue lips and a
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toothless mouth.
George claimed that the creature
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must have weighed about £80 and
that it had very broad shoulders
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and a haunched back.
The thing eventually freed
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itself and swim away.
In Wisconsin, sometime in the
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mid 90s, a Wisconsin Department
of Natural Resource game warden
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was traveling along Hwy. 13 near
Medford when a figure was
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spotted standing in the middle
of the road.
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As the warden approached, he
could see that whatever it was
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had scaly green skin, and just
as surprised as he was to see
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the creature, he was also
surprised that it unfolded large
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wings from his back and took off
into the air.
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The creature landed just behind
the warden's truck and stood
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there for a few seconds before
taking off again permanently.
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But roughly around the same
time.
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Unfortunately, it is unclear as
to whether it was before or
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after the Warden's encounter.
Another group of men working at
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a construction site off of the
same Rd. witnessed a creature
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that they described as being
exactly like the one seen by the
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Warden.
The creature sprouted wings and
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flew above the canopy of the
trees surrounding the work site,
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and the men never saw it again
in December of 1988.
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Two Italian men, a farmer and
security guard, had encounters
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with reptilian men on two
different occasions.
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The encounter that the farmer
reported was during the night
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and the creature had serpent
like eyes and briefly chase
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after the witness before leaving
the area.
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The second was only seen briefly
and it fled into the nearby tree
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line.
And in 1993, a couple out
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looking for their lost dog in
Lacrosse, Wisconsin, were
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stunned when I discovered what
looked like to be a very large
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bipedal creature with brown
scales covering its entire body.
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The witness claimed that the
creature had bright yellow eyes
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with thin slits when their
flashlights shined on its face
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old three toes between February
and October in 1948, the Tampa
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Bay area of Florida found itself
with a mystery of its own.
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Hundreds of large 3 toed tracks
were being found throughout the
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area and extended slightly N
into the Panhandle of the state
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as well, although most of the
witnesses reported spotting a
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large creature with a rhinoceros
like head.
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The three toed footprints are
synonymous with dinosaurs such
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as Raptors.
The creature eventually became
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known throughout the Gulf Coast
communities as Old Three Toes
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and the area was on high alert
for almost an entire year.
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The case that really sparked
fear when it came to Old Three
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Toes was in February in 1948,
when on Clearwater Beach, a
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young couple had parked their
car and witnessed a large
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creature exiting the water
before fleeing and reporting the
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sighting to the local police.
When officers arrived, there
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were in fact dozens of three
towed tracks along that specific
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section of the beach that looked
as if the creature came in and
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out of the water numerous times
before heading back in for good.
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The very next morning, more
people reported that the track
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for Beck Upon arrival, officers
yet again discovered similar
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footprints in almost the exact
same area.
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In March, a third set was found
on another beach only a mile
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away from the original set that
was tracked for over 100 yards
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before it disappeared in the
grass.
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This was followed by another
trackway showing up on Dan's
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Island on March 20th and another
track on April 3rd, and Indian
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Rocks Beach just 10 miles South
of Clearwater, with yet another
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one showing up in the same area
on April 8th.
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On July 25th, pilots John Milner
and George Orphanides were
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flying around the area of Hog
Island when two men spotted a
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very large, strange creature
swimming around with legs like
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an alligator just 200 feet
offshore.
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The pilots described it as
having a very thick and large
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build and a proportionally sized
tail, but the strange thing
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about their sighting was that
they described it as having hair
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all over its body.
Many people took this report
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very seriously, but some were
saying that the thing must have
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been caught up in seaweed as
there were no sea animals long
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hair in the area.
Two more sightings came in after
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the pilot sighting, one of which
was from a couple on vacation
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from Wisconsin in August.
This sighting is where the
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famous rhinoceros had
description comes from.
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And the less known sighting was
in Chieftain near the Swanee
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River in October of 1948 before
Old Three Toes disappeared for
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good.
Now Florida was not the only
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place in history to have such
sightings and reports of a large
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amount of three toed footprints
being found on beaches.
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Years earlier in the 30s, three
Toed tracks were found beaches
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in New Zealand, Queensland,
Tasmania, Australia, Argentina,
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Nantucket, Island and South
Africa.
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So what are they?
Obviously we cannot engulf all
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of these creatures into one
category, as they are from
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different times, different
spaces and different
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descriptions.
But what we can do is talk about
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the possibilities as a whole.
One such possibility is that
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they are known creatures.
Could some of these be actual
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alligators?
Perhaps bats?
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Maybe large fish such as a
sturgeon?
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One of my favorites for a lot of
lizard encounters is the theory
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that these could merely be
Sasquatch that have been covered
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in hardened mud, which may give
the look of scaly, possibly Moss
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or lichen covered green skin.
I mean the statures, right?
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A lot of these creatures are
extremely tall.
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What about tyrannodons?
Specifically the one where the
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warden spots are flying
artillian in the middle of the
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road?
Could this be a prehistoric
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remnant?
What about exotic pets?
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One theory about the Fetus Lake
monster is that it is a Teague
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lizard that was reported lost by
a local man a year earlier.
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But that really couldn't be,
since exotic reptiles have zero
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chance of surviving the harsh
Canadian winters.
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In fact, a lot of these stories,
like the ones from New York,
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Jersey, Michigan, and Wisconsin
may be in climates that are just
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too cold for reptile live in
period.
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What about hoaxes?
Maybe.
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In fact, most would probably say
yes, that they are 100% all
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hoaxes.
Although I'm not blind to the
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fact that humans do stupid
things for stupid reasons, I
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would like to think that if
anything was wrongly reported,
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it would be a case of
misidentification instead of a
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hoax.
But sadly that is most likely
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not the case.
Let's head on over to the other
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side of the pool really quick.
Let's ask the question, highly
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regarded in the world of
conspiracy, what about the idea
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that some of these could be the
feral brethren of the famed
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reptilian beings?
They're said to control the
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politics of the world.
How about an ancient race of
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dinosaurs?
What if a small population of
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velociraptors or previously
mentioned tyrannodons evolved in
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a similar fashion to humans and
became bi people in a very slim
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population exists today like
that of the Sasquatch?
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In Lyle Blackburn's book Lizard
Man, the true story of the
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Bishop Feld monster, Lyle
describes how men by the names
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DA Russell and our sequin
published a paper in the
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National Museum of Canada's
Solagius #37 in 1982 that
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describes how the Cretaceous
dinosaur known as the
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Staniocasaurus in Eculus, more
commonly known as Trudon, was
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famously known as having a very
large brain compared to its
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dinosaur brethren.
And if not for the Mesozoic
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extinctions of a very large
amount of living species on
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Earth, they may have developed a
brain similar to that of humans.
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If you look up what a true down
looks like, you'll notice that
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this creature was bipedal and
very similar to looking like a
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velociraptor.
So if it was given enough time
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to evolve, such as we had, it
would not be such a far stretch
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to think that these creatures
could have been formed in
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something resembling that of
Gatorman or the Lizard Man of
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Bishopville.
Or what if they are just what
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they are categorized as?
Cryptids, an undiscovered
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species of animal yet to be
categorized by science?
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Personally, this one's my
favorite, but unfortunately it
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is most likely not the case.
It wouldn't be right to
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introduce you to the strange
group of lizard men, weaned
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lizardoids and dynoids without
at least mentioning that a lot
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of these amazing reports came
around the time where there was
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a craze going on in pop culture.
The list of movies alone
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depicting a man in the lizard
costume of sorts is incredibly
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long for this time period.
The Creature from the Black
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Lagoon in 1954, The Revenge of
the Creature from 1957,
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Alligator People of 1959, The
Hideous Sun Demon, also from
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1959, The Reptile in 66, Knight
of the Cobra Woman in 72, and
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The Legend of Gatorface in 1996.
So it may be safe to say that
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most, if not all the people who
have reported a Lizard Man of
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sorts did have some sort of
recollection of what it might
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actually look like just from the
movies alone.
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Is this the answer to all of our
reports?
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Most likely not all of them, but
some of them.
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Very good chance at being a
simple stretch of the
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imagination.
But almost 10 years before the
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invention, the first movie
camera newspapers were reporting
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in October of 1878 that a wild
man had been caught in a rural
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area of Tennessee and was being
transported by railway to
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Louisiana, Kentucky for a public
display.
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A rather large news story at the
time was spreading throughout
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the nation at the speed of black
and white that this wild man
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they were calling it had a layer
of scales all over his body
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which would fall off at regular
occurrences around spring and
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fall.
The creature also came equipped
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with a head full of hair, a
fully grown wild man beard, huge
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eyes, easily doubled the size of
humans and stood 6 foot 5 inches
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tall with webbed toes.
The daily care for this man
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included regular housings to
keep its skin damp and a diet
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raw fish and cooked meat.
Apparently fish was the only
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thing he could eat raw.
A report that surfaced a few
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months later in February in 1879
described the man as old and
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withered with a Gray sickly tone
to his skin.
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Dead looking hair and a blushed
face.
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But then the report went on to
explain that he was happily
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married with several children,
and local doctors discovered
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that he was in fact a man with a
skin disease referred to as
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ichthyosis.
Ichthyosis is now a known skin
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disease that gives the skin an
appearance of being scaly.
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If you're sensitive to the
thought of newborns with
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unfortunate physical
deformities, I would recommend
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not Googling this disease.
Some of the pictures of the
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infants with ichthyosis.
It's heartbreaking.
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Just don't do it.
I added this part as a last bit
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of relative information, so you
may have all the tools needed to
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decide for yourself what each of
these creatures may have
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actually been.
All right, travelers, we have
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one more case to look at.
Next week, we dive into the
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first installment of the
Infinite Rabbit Hole mini doc
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series.
The Loveland Frogman.
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This will wrap up our coverage
of all things reptoids and
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cryptozoology.
Of course, there are the
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Reptilians of both underground
and the far corners of space,
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but those are completely
different subjects altogether.
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So hang tight kids, we're going
to get weird and one day we will
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jump into reptilian world.
But until then, Next week,
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Frogman, thank you once again
and I'll see you next.
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