161. Q1 2024 Wrap-Up

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Welcome back to The Infinite
Rabbit Hole.

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I'm your host, Jeremy, and today
we're going to go back in time

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and do things the old way and
talk to everybody Like like a

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podcast and not just a a
documentary, which is pretty

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cool.
I know a lot of you guys are

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missing this and a lot of you
guys don't.

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Oh well, this is what you get.
Without further ado, let's go

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ahead and bring the cast in.
Let's start with my Co creator,

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Jacob.
That's me.

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That facial hair?
Phenomenal.

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Not up close.
It's very it's very airy.

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It looks like spider legs all
over my face, but I appreciate

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it in the shadows.
It looks great.

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What's up dude?
I I smell like a campfire.

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I've been making Maple syrup all
weekend long and for a long time

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today, so I smell like smoke and
syrup.

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It is the probably the butt end
of sugaring season because of

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the in the weird temperature
fluctuations.

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But yeah, we got some trees
tapped out on our new property

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and just tried it out for the
first time.

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Well, you heard that, everybody.
Infinite rabbit hole Maple syrup

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coming to grocery stores?
Nowhere.

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You know, my dad just said my
dad just asked me through text

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if I can find bottles that are
shaped like Bigfoot.

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And I was like, gosh, I wish
that would be awesome.

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How cool would that be, right?
We got to be.

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We got to be able to do it.
That would be pretty sweet.

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Find a custom glass blower.
That's sweet.

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Again, I just been creating my
or cleaning my garage all day.

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I yeah, you know, I we'll get
into that later.

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Let's go ahead and bring the
next one, since he's wearing a

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hat like me.
Jeffrey, What's up, man?

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You.
What's up, bro?

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The the one guy I was expecting
not to listen to any of the

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episodes actually listened to
all of them.

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To be fair, I binged all of them
today, so.

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What did it take, bro?
Six hours.

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That's.
Crazy.

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Took my whole work day pretty
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But yeah, that's what we did
today.

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So it's all fresh in my mind,
but in all in in reality, I was

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driving for half of that, so I
don't know how much of that

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actually stuck, but we'll see.
Well, yeah, but how you been,

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man?
How's how's Shadow Band?

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Shadow Band's dead.
What?

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It's been dead.
It's been dead since, like,

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October.
You.

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Got that fancy little neon sign
and everything, man.

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Yep, Still got the sign.
The sign's not dead, you know,

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But you know, it's just it's
it's hard, bro.

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I'm running a business now.
I'm working full time.

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I've got a girlfriend.
It's like I don't have time for.

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I got a PlayStation Five, bro.
Like how I'm supposed to How am

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I supposed to do a podcast?
Man, you made me get that hell

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divers game, and you have yet to
bring freedom and democracy to

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those alien scumbags a single
time.

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With with you.
Yeah.

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Well, you know, you just, you
always get on after I get off.

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Man, I'm an early bird.
You know this.

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You know, my bedtime like 7:00
PM.

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Come on.
Yeah, you're old.

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Well, the one person in the
group who doesn't have APS 5 Co

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hosting today is CJCJ.
How?

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How are you?
I'm all right.

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One of these things is not like
the other.

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One of these things is CJ.
Right.

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You don't have a beard and you
don't have a PlayStation 5.

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Correct.
Freaking nerd.

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Yeah.
Correct.

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Yeah, nerd, you have blue eyes.
It looks like you got blue eyes.

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You got blue.
Eyes.

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One of them's blue, one of
them's green, and I have a brown

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spot in one of them.
Oh, you're one of them weirdos.

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So you're a witch, huh?
That explains a lot.

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Bet the ladies love that.
It is my one attractive feature.

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Wait, he got a nice voice on you
face for radio for sure, but a

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nice voice.
Good stuff.

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Good stuff.
See he.

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Says the guy with a white van in
his driveway.

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Who?
Yeah.

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You.
Yeah, initial hair.

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Are you comparing me to a Pedo
or the Unabomber?

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You do look like a homeless guy.
I'm not gonna lie, I've been

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saying this.
That's why I changed my name on

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here to Hobo Jake.
Good stuff.

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All right, let's let's jump into
like the big news.

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The big, big news?
We talked about the thing.

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We're talking about the thing.
We have to talk about the thing.

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The thing is, is that Infinite
rabbit hole is going to be

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making its first in person
appearance at a UFO festival

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called UFO Days in Elmwood, WI.
We will be there all three days.

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Believe it's the 26th, 27th and
28th Friday, Saturday and Sunday

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July.
So if you are in the area, come

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dot come by and say hello to
myself, Jacob and Jeffrey.

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That's right.
Yeah, I got the flight.

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I'm terrified of flying, but I'm
doing it for you guys.

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He said he wanted to come up and
meet some travelers.

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That's what he wanted to do.
Yep, we're going to have a

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booth.
We're going to do some

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interviews.
I don't know what else Jeremy

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wants to do a presentation.
We'll see.

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That shit is going to be empty
the whole day.

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Jeremy's going to bitch later.
It's going to be great.

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It's.
Going to be fucking.

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The presentation would be sick
like I I keep thinking about the

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presentation thing and if that
goes through like I I need a a

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Jeff Fernandez, Ted talk like
that's what I need in my life.

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Younger Dryas 2 point O.
We're pulling up, We're pulling

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up patents.
We're going deep on documents.

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It's I'm going to ruin.
Everybody thinks they're getting

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abducted by aliens.
I'm going to.

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They're going to paint me by the
end of the weekend.

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Oh, you're going to whip out the
TR 3B patent be like you guys

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are the.
Government show I'll.

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Bring my shill hat for you.
Judging by the way they react to

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our episodes, you guys are going
to be at this infinite rabbit

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hole booth and people are just
going to come up like, oh hey,

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Shadow bed, hey.
Thanks man pretty much.

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Thanks.
I know a couple locals here that

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have already told me that they
will be at the festival, so

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they're looking forward to
seeing us.

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Nice.
But yeah, so the plan is

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everybody that we're going to
start here in at UFO days and

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possibly move on to other things
somewhere down the road, so.

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I want to visit all the haunted
things here as someone who

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doesn't believe in any of that
stuff and record every

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interaction I get, which will
probably be a bunch of nothing,

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and throw it up on YouTube.
I decided that on my drive

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through to Minnesota today, I
was just like, that's something

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I should do.
Do you?

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Want me to send you all my ghost
hunting gear?

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Oh dude, do it.
It's a little little known fact.

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I actually used to have a ghost
hunting team.

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I have like, I have like FLIR
thermal cameras, I have EMFEVP

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recorders, all kinds of stuff.
Dude, I I will take all that

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stuff.
I will use it.

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And I'll deny every single piece
of evidence I get.

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Like, it's static.
It's like die die and I'm like

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static.
Jake, Jake, like, it's like an

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EVP.
It's like ever swallow your

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soul.
And he's like, no, that wasn't

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English.
Interference.

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But yeah, so UFO Day is not much
to say there.

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We still have to create our
lineup and what we're doing.

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So if you are planning on going
or if you're going to be in the

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area and you guys want to hear a
specific thing, let us know.

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Maybe we can make it happen.
Be fucked up if I went there as

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like like a patron of the
festival and just like walk past

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you guys behind the booth, would
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Even recognize her in person.
It's.

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Like me and my kid, I'm eating a
corn dog.

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I'm like, oh hey Jeremy.
Just like, keep it moving.

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They better have corn dogs
there.

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It's the let me find out one
member of Infinite Rabbit Hole

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that will not be there is going
to be CJ, he says.

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He does not care.
Because he hates us that.

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Was correct.
Actually, that was almost a

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quote.
Yeah, it wasn't.

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I believe what I said was I
don't give a fuck.

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It is what it is.
It is what it is.

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But we got Jeffrey to come up,
so that's cool.

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There'll be three of the four
hosts of the infinite rabbit

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hole there for you guys.
Please, if you guys are there,

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come hit us up and yeah, talk to
us.

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Let us let us know.
I'll send Andrew to take my spot

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for me.
There you go.

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I'll take Andrew.
Only if he brings that squeaky

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ass chair.
All right.

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So this is the quarter 1/20/24
wrap up episode.

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So this is kind of be the
standard.

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Every three months, we're going
to get together and talk about

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the episodes that came out to
kind of give you guys the old

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feel of how the episodes used to
run, where we used to do the

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documentaries and the commentary
and all our thoughts and ideas

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and and whatnot.
But we're just going to put them

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all into one episode for you
guys, and that's this one.

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So first on the docket,
everybody is Slender Man.

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Does anybody have anything to
first start off about Slender

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Man?
Did that episode was such a

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bummer?
The fuck you for not letting me

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be on that episode with you
'cause you go to do a solo

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documentary.
I love Slender Man.

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We we had the whole thing
recorded with Kenzar too.

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It was 3 hours long.
And then Jeremy's just like, oh

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shoot, all the audio went
through my webcam and not my

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microphone, and we'd scrapped
the entire episode.

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It sucked.
It was such a good episode too.

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We were like shocked how
horrible those kids were

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stabbing their friend to death
or trying to, at least.

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Yeah, it was.
That was definitely my fuck up

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guys.
Everyone listening.

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I did have a a retro episode in
mind when I when I did that

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because it was technically
supposed to be the Halloween

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urban legend episode and as we
know, things didn't work out.

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We ended up taking a few months
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it got moved mostly because of
that that fuck up, which was

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kind of the he's.
So mad.

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He's like, that's it, we're
taking a break.

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Yeah, that was that was the
straw that broke the camel's

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back, man.
I I just couldn't do it.

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I was like, all right, that's
it.

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You need to stop doing all these
mental errors now and really

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giving up on quality.
Speaking of quality, I got to

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fix that Shag Harbour one.
It's absolutely terrible.

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But you.
Didn't you didn't bring up the

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movie Slender at all, which is
like probably the best motion

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picture about Slender Man?
Well, it's like a fictional

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story, but it's probably the
best movie made involving

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Slender Man.
You didn't even bring it up.

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No, I didn't.
But I did bring up.

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Forgive me, it's been a long
time since I recorded this and

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listened to this episode.
I want to say the Marvel

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Hornets, right?
Marvel Hornets.

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So Marvel.
Hornets for all of 30 seconds,

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even though they were the ones
that perpetuated the entire

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Slender Man myth after the
creepypasta.

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Yeah, and.
I mean, come on, man, that

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episode was long.
I There, there there was things.

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I have all of the Marble Hornets
episodes on DVD box set that I

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bought from them.
Well, that's great, man.

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That's, that's good.
Yeah, that's.

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What Wanted to be on the
episode.

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You didn't let me, Yeah.
That's right.

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Things happen.
Things happen.

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Can't have another.
Expert on the episode.

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Come on, dude.
No, I'm.

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I'm pretty sure I wanted you on
the episode.

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You said no, no.
Or you had something to be on

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that episode.
We'll find.

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The chat I don't.
I don't.

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I was like I want to do it.
I want to do it.

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Prove it.
I I don't recall that, I recall

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you saying.
You know, there's a funny.

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Thing I know more about Slender
Man than you do.

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That's I don't want to be on it.
I do remember you saying that

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you knew more than I did and I
was like, well, whatever, I just

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read a book.
So there anyway.

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Search function in this damn
chat, Jeffrey.

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So honestly, again, I was
working and driving, listening

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to, binge listening to all of
the episodes for the season, so

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a lot of it didn't really stick.
But what it makes me think of,

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and I think I may have told
this, I'll tell you guys the

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short story version, but I think
I told you guys that.

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Would I ever tell you about my
sleep paralysis?

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My one time I had sleep
paralysis ever in my life.

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The time where you woke up and
your butt was hurting.

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No.
Where I had this dream and it

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just for whatever reason, it
just made me think of this.

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You know, I had this dream and
it was more of a nightmare.

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And in this nightmare, there was
banging on a door, right?

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And I go to this door and I open
the door and a bunch of kids run

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out and they're like, oh, he,
you know, he's there.

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He's chasing me.
Whatever they're saying, it's

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some variation of that.
And as I look back through the

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doorway, there was this tall
skinny being charging full

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Sprint at me and it as I shut
the door, it bursts through the

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door and stands over me.
And it's probably 7-8 feet tall,

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hunched down in my face and all
I just remember having the

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thoughts of like what are you
doing in here?

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Like what Why are the kids in
here?

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All this?
And I wake up and I'm clearly

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awake and at the same time, like
the the blanket is being tugged

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on my foot on my bed, but I
can't move.

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And then like a few seconds
later, I wake up and there's

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nothing there.
That's nuts.

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No, I've never heard that.
That's never told that on the

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show.
Oh, OK, Well yeah, that's what

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it just made me think of so.
Jeez, wait, was that a nightmare

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or sleep paralysis, 'cause that
was like it was.

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It was nightmare and I woke up
again and it's like when I woke

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up the first time I was clearly
awake, like everything was

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normal in my room except for
something was tugging on my

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blanket and then I woke up again
in the same position and I was

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able to move like.
OK, I had sleep paralysis a

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couple of times, but never like
full on visual hallucinations.

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Yeah, it was intense.
Dude, I've had a dream within a

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dream within a dream like that.
Like dream Inception before.

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Yeah, it's crazy.
But that was probably the

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Slender Man, bro.
It probably was.

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Anyways, no, definitely some
brutal shit.

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Especially when it came to the
real life implications that

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Slenderman ended up having.
Not just the the girls, right?

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The girl that did the murder,
she's supposed to get out of

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jail soon, isn't she?
If not already.

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Audio's OK.
Yeah, you're fine.

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You're good.
OK anyways the the real life

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implications, the thing that
really I don't know it was kind

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of unnerving to do the research
on it and I've since been asked

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to do by three different people
to do a in depth dive into this

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would be our first true crimes
episode.

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I guess you you would say into
the the Slender Man court case

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and the the entire trial and
kind of dive into more of the

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psychology behind the 2 girls.
I don't know if I'm going to do

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that, not 100% sure.
And if this the show ever does

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dive into true crime that
probably be the one of the paths

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we would exercise.
But you know if you're listening

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to this and and you guys you
know feel like that's a thing

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you guys do want to hear let me
know.

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But other than that, the that
attempted mass shooting was

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intense.
I I looked up some some news

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reports from that and just to
just know how bad that could

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have got was pretty pretty
crazy.

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Jeff's mortal with the
conversation already.

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He's playing guitar now well.
This is.

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My brain going.
This is probably the topic that

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he does not care about when it
comes to this entire line up.

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But yeah, I had.
AI had a dream, like just

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literally like last night,
except it was more along the

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lines if I had Maple syrup to
boil and there was snow all over

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the ground, but it was pretty
close, same same intensity.

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Sounds like a fetish dream.
It was about Maple syrup.

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Yeah, well, I've been making
Maple syrup all weekend.

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Your Your sleep paralysis.
Demons pour Maple syrup on you.

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They lick it off your body
slowly.

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Hey, hey, hey.
We're not going to get into my

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relationship with my sleep
paralysis demons, all right?

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That's behind closed doors.
The thing was that the dream and

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the feeling was the same, all
right.

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The the the girls who did the
murder.

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I think.
What I can't remember the girl's

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name.
She's.

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I think she's due to get out of
jail, like, if not already soon.

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Good for her.
Well, she was up for parole and

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she like, turned herself away
from parole, saying like she

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wasn't, like mentally capable of
being in the world or something

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like that.
Yeah, I remember doing something

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or saying something about that
coming up soon, the Morgan

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Geyser and Anisa Weir.
I'm not sure which one is the

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one that's up for parole soon or
the one that's going to be

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getting out.
But when when we did the

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recording, they were pretty
close to getting that.

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So I was one of them was like
extra close to being like, yeah,

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if not, she's already getting
out.

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Good possibility of it.
Did not look into that before

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we.
What do you want to show up at

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her parole hearing and be like I
say, no.

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She'll kill again or attempt to
anyway, no.

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No, no, that's a that's a crazy
bitch.

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Like, yeah, that's one of those
ones you deny even knowing who

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she is.
You're like, I don't know that

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person though.
Yeah, no, this isn't definitely

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some fucked up shit.
Any anything else about Slender

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Man?
Y'all.

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I didn't listen to the episode
again because I was so

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distraught about US bombing the
first one.

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I mean, I already knew all the
information and stuff, but yeah,

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it was, it was pretty wild.
Like, I really wish that episode

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had been good because my
reactions were very genuine.

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I I knew of Slender Man and just
like, I guess it's like an urban

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legend type thing and tall being
in a suit or something like

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that, right?
And then like morph suits has a

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Slender Man, you know, outfit
with like long fingers and stuff

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like that.
That was about it.

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That was the extent of it.
I didn't know that people

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followed this urban legend to
the extent of.

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Like attempting murder and stuff
like that.

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Like I So it really blew my
mind.

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Yeah.
Did any of you guys ever play

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the video game where you run
away from Slender Man?

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No, I've seen it, though I've
seen people the game play on

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YouTube.
It's very good.

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It's very scary when you're the
one playing it cause like when

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you're watching it, you're like
this isn't bad and then you play

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it and like your anxiety gets
going.

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Isn't like AVR thing too?
I don't.

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I don't think so.
When I when I play, it's just

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like on the computer.
Maybe there's another VR version

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of that, but yeah.
Well, if you guys listen to our

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episodes on Spotify, you can
leave a response to how you felt

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about the episode.
We did get a We did get a

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response from Lalisha Marr.
She said Gas.

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I had to.
I had to ask the the panel what

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that meant and apparently.
That is a It's good stuff.

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Good as shit is what I'm being
told.

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And then I also double checked
that with my 12 year old.

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Yeah, I also double checked that
with my 12 year old and again

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she said good as shit.
She didn't say it like that, but

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she she told me, yes, that that
is correct.

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He said, honey, what is gas?
She said Good.

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As shit, you're grounded.
But thank you.

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No.
Knowing Jeremy, he'd be like,

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what is that good as shit Word.
And they went back to reading

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his book about his next subject.
That's.

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More or less probably.
What?

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What had happened?
Yeah.

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Even Jayce dropped an F bomb the
other day and Jeremy's like what

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did you just say?
What did you just effing say?

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There's not going to be any
effing cussing in this house,

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you little S.
No, he didn't.

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He didn't actually say it.
I he said something similar to

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it and I kind of went along with
it and he was like, no, no, not.

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Telling your.
Mother.

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I have to actually watch the
music I listen to in my car now

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because me and my son were at
Wawa the other day and I didn't

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really realize what was playing
on the radio.

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And we're standing in the Wawa
and he goes, everyone else is an

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asshole.
Really loud.

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Rough, rough.
I was very.

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Phenomenal.
No more real big fish for you.

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Let's let's move on the news
episode about aliens in the

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mall.
Whatever happened with that, it

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just died.
Yeah.

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Dead.
DED.

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Dead.
Yeah.

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Jeff said it's a movie trailer
and everybody gave up.

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We called them out on it, man.
They were like, fuck.

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I mean, technically, we don't
know yet because the Stranger

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Things season trailer hasn't
came out yet, so we don't know.

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Or it was real.
It was just buried super

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quickly, which means it was
probably real.

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Which is how this thing would
happen.

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A couple weeks after, really
quickly, a couple weeks after

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it, a couple of my friends were
on Instagram talking about that

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live in Florida and they were
like there were a lot of cop

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cars and it was dumb.
And then it was done and nobody

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cares anymore.
Well.

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I mean, same thing with the the
Mexican aliens, those aliens in

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Mexico and stuff like that.
Huge news.

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Yeah, Yeah, well, I mean,
they're complete garbage, but

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huge news for a week and a half
and then nothing else.

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No one cares.
Well, that's as far from my

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perspective, right, as the one
who's usually the most skeptical

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about the alien stuff hitting
any type of mainstream news,

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right?
Is that it's a distraction from

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something else.
And the fact that it came and

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went and and it's just gone to
the abyss pretty much confirms

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that.
I don't know if anybody's looked

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into what happened at that same
time that none of us are talking

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about something.
Yeah, whatever it is, something

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went down.
But I can confirm being 3 hours

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away from Miami that there was
not in fact, giant aliens in the

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mall because the hordes of
panicked people have not come

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here yet, right?
They would have to pass me in

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order to get out of Florida and
it the traffic is normal.

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So.
Yeah, yeah 'cause if they

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attacked a mall in Miami, they
wouldn't attack anywhere else.

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Well, you know, I would expect
to see them in NASA, which I

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literally have my eyes on all
the time.

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You guys can confirm this that?
That is very true.

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Fish across the river from NASA.
He sends his.

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Videos all the time of him
fishing, and then he'll zoom in

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on NASA.
Here's the launch station.

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It's awesome, my man.
Is like that, my man.

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Is like that old lady neighbor
who's always peeking through her

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blinds.
He's like looking trees, looking

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at the rocket launchpad.
He's like they're up to

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something.
I just know it.

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I'm going to call the cops.
There's really no bait on my

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line.
I'm just standing out there with

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the fishing pole watching that.
Did I tell you guys the one

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where the helicopter flew right
over my head while I was out

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there?
No, no.

453
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,440
Like, they were like, hey,
there's that guy from the Real

454
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600
Shadow Band podcast, not that
fake one.

455
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,160
Yeah, dude, no, they would
attack NASA, I'm sure so.

456
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,640
Because they tried to probe his
brain and he had that silver

457
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,080
lined beanie on and they were
like, why can't we get in?

458
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,080
Let's go check him out.
No, the facial.

459
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,480
Recognition picked him up and
they were like, we know who that

460
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,760
is.
Maybe I.

461
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600
Have seen the aliens, but I'm
sure we'll get into that with

462
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,720
the next section here.
He was like all four of them.

463
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,360
Those three guys are on the
list.

464
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:49,680
Jeff's on three.
We need to go watch him.

465
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,000
So anyways, let's move on.
Let's.

466
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,480
Well, first, let's get to the
response on Spotify.

467
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,720
We had one response from
somebody called Better Name.

468
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,720
They said great exclamation
mark.

469
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,080
Oh, good.
Yeah.

470
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,480
Not too descriptive, but yeah,
very, very well appreciated.

471
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,880
Always loved the support.
Yep, Hell yeah.

472
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,360
Let's move on to the Screen
Memories episode.

473
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:20,760
Jeff, would you like to kick
off?

474
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,600
Yeah, this this one was my
favorite honestly.

475
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,640
Because.
Me too.

476
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,920
There obviously there's like the
the Bohemian Grove aspect and

477
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,760
like the government and like the
Washington DC, like the, you

478
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,640
know, the GPS view.
You could see this owl and did.

479
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,800
You look at that?
I've seen it.

480
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,680
Yeah, I've seen.
It it's so clear, it's crazy.

481
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:41,920
It's.
Fucking nuts.

482
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:46,200
Yeah, there's there's definitely
something to this.

483
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,880
I mean, I could go pretty deep
on what my thoughts are on on

484
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:56,680
this, but basically OWL, as you
say in the episode Owls have

485
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:02,920
been kind of seen as some either
an entity, it's in it of itself

486
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,120
or like a representation of
souls or entities or there's all

487
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:08,920
these different variations
through cultures of this owl and

488
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,600
in some fashion, right.
And then when you talk about

489
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,280
screen memories, I I don't
necessarily think that it's as

490
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,640
much of like an implanted or
false memory that's used to keep

491
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,840
you from remembering what
abducted you or what have you.

492
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,720
I think it's more the fact that
and I've said I've talked about

493
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,480
this before I'm under the
impression that whatever the

494
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,480
entities are that have been here
for a long time, they're

495
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,960
actually manipulating light in
the information in light that

496
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,640
our brains can decode.
So I I yeah, sure.

497
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:44,560
Absolutely.
Right.

498
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,600
So I would be more under the
impression that when you're

499
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,520
seeing not every owl, obviously,
but when you're having these

500
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,400
these weird owl encounters, that
that is actually the entity, not

501
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,120
necessarily a screen memory of
an owl to mask the real memory.

502
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:05,160
Because if they're hijacking the
information in the light that we

503
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,920
can decode and perceive as
reality, then they could

504
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,000
literally just make themselves
look like owls.

505
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,480
And if and again going back to
like these all of these occult

506
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,040
worshippings, like let's use
Bohemian Grove as an example.

507
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:27,400
These people know that owls are
are important on that esoteric

508
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,120
level of reality right.
They they know that there's

509
00:28:30,120 --> 00:28:33,480
something about the owls.
So it's super interesting.

510
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000
I I was my mind was going crazy
listening to that episode.

511
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,600
I was like oh shit oh this, that
and I've I've had many

512
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,120
encounters with owls that were
weird encounters.

513
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,960
So maybe they are.
Maybe they.

514
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,440
Maybe they are here.
So like, two things then.

515
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,280
First, Phil had an episode at
the end, near the end of his

516
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,040
last season, where he had a lady
on there who was talking about

517
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:01,480
aliens that instead of using
speech, they use codes delivered

518
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,920
in light patterns and light
waves, which was really

519
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,320
interesting.
Kind of like goes with what you

520
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,320
were saying there, not the
demons part, but the the the

521
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,360
part with the what you're saying
like it's like hijacking the

522
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:15,680
light waves.
And then the other thing is like

523
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,680
do you guys think that like it's
really like about the owl

524
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,760
specifically or do you think
it's about like the human mind's

525
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,000
affiliation with owls being that
they have such large eyes and

526
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,200
most cultures around the world
kind of like view the eyes as

527
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,800
like the essence of the soul,
like where the soul is kept

528
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,480
kept, right.
So like it is these huge eyes

529
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,120
and like you're looking into
that and like you think like

530
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,840
you're looking into like more of
a soul then like, yeah, blue

531
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,320
doesn't.
Have eyes, bigger eyes.

532
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,560
You can use.
Blue whales, right?

533
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,680
But Linda, we're talking about
like, like scale, like

534
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,240
proportion to head.
Like owls have the anime eyes of

535
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,720
the of the animal Kingdom,
right?

536
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,880
So, like, they're huge.
There's something to that for

537
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:56,600
sure.
I think.

538
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,360
Like in the physical reality,
right?

539
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,120
Just normal people throughout
history viewing owls, They're

540
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,400
crazy birds, man.
I mean, first of all, birds are

541
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,440
always held in like high regard,
whether it's good or bad, right?

542
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,560
Because number one, they can fly
and we can't.

543
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,160
Owls are supposed to be so wise.
Yeah, we're always looking at

544
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,600
different types of birds,
especially weird birds.

545
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,200
And and it's captivating to the
ancient man's mind, right?

546
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040
So an owl would be no different.
They're huge, which is another

547
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,160
thing that would captivate us.
The eyes, as you're saying, and

548
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,680
the fact that they can rotate
their heads, like, you know,

549
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,760
most of the way around, like all
of those factors are things that

550
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,960
you know, it's like it's a weird
thing as a human to see those

551
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,440
types of things, right?
So I think.

552
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:37,760
They're silent when they're
flying.

553
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:38,840
They're not like any other
birds.

554
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,360
Where they you can hear the
flapping.

555
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,880
They're completely dead silent
when they're flying and they're.

556
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,680
They're apex predators, right?
All of these things are

557
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640
interesting, especially to
ancient man, right?

558
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,480
Like all of these things.
But I do really think that

559
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,200
there's something, you know, in
that occult sphere or in that

560
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:03,640
esoteric sphere that has a link
to owls because of like you say

561
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,520
in the episode Jeremy Bohemian
Grove.

562
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,280
There's there's no other reason.
I mean they could have built a

563
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,840
30 foot statue of anything, but
they chose to make it an owl and

564
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,880
they chose to put the blueprints
of an owl in the the groundwork

565
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,720
of Washington, DC So there's
definitely something there.

566
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,360
And I personally think that it's
more literal than just like

567
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,840
screen memories.
I think that what you're seeing

568
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,960
in those encounters is what the
entities are encoding for you to

569
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,200
see, not masking what you saw.
But one more question then like

570
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,640
correct me if I'm wrong, but
doesn't Moloch have something to

571
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:48,200
do with owls as well?
In the ancient texts, I don't

572
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,320
think so as much.
But a lot of this stuff from

573
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,840
ancient texts has been like, you
know, inverted, right?

574
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,320
Like that's that's one of the
whole.

575
00:31:58,320 --> 00:31:59,840
I mean you would know about the
CJ, right?

576
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,480
Like inverting truth or
inversion of reality like this

577
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:09,000
is like one of the things that
some occult people would do to

578
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,800
perform certain types of magic
or whatever the case might be,

579
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,440
right?
Like inversion, is is one of

580
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:14,840
these keys.
Well, usually.

581
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,760
Usually.
Well, inversion is like has a

582
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,840
lot to do with like divination.
But typically when things were

583
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,240
inverted, it's because people
were trying to wipe out Pagan

584
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,840
cultures, not because of like
anything else.

585
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,440
Sure, sure.
Well, I think that you know

586
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,640
there as you know like the old
saying as above, so below my

587
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,840
belief in that saying is more so
like things happen on the higher

588
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,040
realms that we can't necessarily
understand and perceive.

589
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,800
They also happen in the physical
reality that we perceive so.

590
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Yes, Moloch is the owl God.
No, it's it's a bold man, but he

591
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,520
does.
Have a pair of wings.

592
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,360
It was.
It was the bold head with

593
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,840
outstretched hands, and the
people would throw their babies

594
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280
inside the hands while there was
a fire burning underneath.

595
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,920
And they'd play their
instruments so they couldn't

596
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:02,880
hear the screams of the babies
while they burned to death

597
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,200
inside the hands.
But there's other depictions of

598
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,560
Moloch where it has a big pair
of wings behind it.

599
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:13,520
So I guess, but that's not to
say that an occult practice that

600
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:19,400
worships, you know, a demon
couldn't then add on other

601
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,680
things to say like, OK, now owls
are mixed in with it.

602
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,120
Like, I'm not going to say the
people that do the Bohemian

603
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,360
Grove thing and all the
politicians and stuff don't also

604
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,680
worship other, you know, deities
such like that, right?

605
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,920
It's just like, you know?
Well, I mean it also and it

606
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,800
makes sense like it to use an
owl when you're trying to

607
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,320
convince people or something
because the eyes, the the whole

608
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,880
like that it holds the soul.
Yeah.

609
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,120
In the eye, the the eyes contain
the truth.

610
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880
It's like baby they basically
but you thinking the animal with

611
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,520
the largest eyes on scale,
you're telling them like Oh

612
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,360
well, we we hold the truth like
look into our eyes, we hold the

613
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,440
truth.
This is where your soul lives.

614
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,560
Right.
Well, that's exactly what I

615
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,360
mean.
You know, when I say that these

616
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,960
people know something that we
don't know and they're encoding

617
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,040
that.
See again as Jeremy said in the

618
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,080
episode, like if you're in the
conspiracies, you understand

619
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,800
that these people have to tell
you or they believe that they

620
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,960
have to tell you things.
So when they build a 30 foot

621
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,920
statue of an owl or and you
didn't mention this in the

622
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,360
episode, but it made me think
about it.

623
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,080
If you go back and look at a lot
of like the EDC stages right

624
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:27,400
there, all a lot of those stages
have whether it's cyborgs or

625
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,800
owls like that's always a a
reoccurring theme.

626
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:35,600
And those people like a Bohemian
Grove, they understand that

627
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,159
there is wisdom that they hold
and it involves your soul.

628
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,880
So they would, of course encode
this into like their owl worship

629
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,639
at the same time, just like what
you're saying, CJ Like those,

630
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,120
those components of the eyes and
of the owl and the wisdom and

631
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,520
the and the soul, like the
windows to the soul.

632
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,239
Like they're literally saying,
like, look, we're worshipping

633
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,160
this thing, or maybe not even
worshipping it, right, 'cause I

634
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,000
don't know that that's what
they're doing there.

635
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,240
It's their mascot.
It it's just a way for them to

636
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,480
put out into the public.
And again we have to remember

637
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,840
that nothing that they really
don't want us to know about gets

638
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,360
out, right.
Like there's secrets that'll

639
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,120
never come out.
So the fact that people were

640
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,680
able to get these secrets from
Bohemian Grove out to the public

641
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,480
and it's become so widely known,
that was done on purpose, right.

642
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,760
So that was their way of showing
you, hey, look, we're we're

643
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,960
playing with the soul, We're
playing with the wisdom that

644
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,120
we're holding tight.
Here it is.

645
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,120
So I'm not going to lie, I
probably could have done a whole

646
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,080
another episode on this.
And in order to get it down in

647
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:44,440
time, I had to cut out a couple
of those, those examples, right?

648
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:48,280
Like the EDM concerts and stuff.
I did have something like that.

649
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,880
It wasn't very thorough because
I'm, I'm be honest with you, I'm

650
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:55,960
not too familiar with the scene,
so I could only go off of what I

651
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,600
could find online and I didn't
really like that.

652
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,920
Bro, I'm going to take you to a
rave and you're going to just

653
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,120
just record the whole thing.
Nah, I'm good.

654
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,600
But if you two want to.
Do a rave.

655
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:07,920
They're going to think you're
cops.

656
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,840
I'm going to wear the shill hat
while I'm there.

657
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,520
I I danced.
Just good enough to pass as as

658
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:19,680
just a weirdo, right?
He's.

659
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,400
Did on the episode with with
Moloch and everything, did you

660
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,120
bring up the Travis Scott
concert?

661
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:28,960
I don't remember.
No, that's what I was just

662
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,080
saying.
So that that was a part that I

663
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,720
had in there was specifically
the Travis Scott concert.

664
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,640
But again, I get all my my
information from books.

665
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:45,000
I don't have a lot of content
that I get from online.

666
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,600
Usually that's just for like
small, small details.

667
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,600
So I wasn't very comfortable
with the information I was

668
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,800
putting out because I couldn't
verify the information coming

669
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,600
from a reputable source.
I know when the Travis Scott

670
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,440
concert happened that there was,
you know, videos of it

671
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:11,040
everywhere and the the image of
of owls was was a huge thing and

672
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
plus a whole bunch of other
demonic concepts a part of it.

673
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,440
They're all.
Illuminati.

674
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,560
What CJ?
The the stage was deliberately

675
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,400
set up as like a painting
representing Moloch and

676
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,120
sacrifices to Moloch and the
trampolines like it was like the

677
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,480
exact number of people died.
That would be the sacrifice and

678
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,360
like it was it.
Was very specific people,

679
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,720
people.
Not to get way off topic, but

680
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:38,880
people were actually reporting
that there was something weird

681
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,280
with the the frequency of the
music as well.

682
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,200
Like people were having all
types of effects and stuff.

683
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,320
I just put a link in the chat
right here too if you guys want

684
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,680
to look at it.
This is just open it.

685
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:49,800
Up image search and you can just
kind of browse through.

686
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,680
These are all EDC stages and
almost all of them have

687
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,680
representations of owls, ancient
Egyptian gods and cyborgs.

688
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,760
It's like it's weird thing.
Oh yeah, no, there's definitely,

689
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,720
definitely a connection there,
especially when you start seeing

690
00:38:05,720 --> 00:38:09,720
that these EDC concerts from
this is again coming from an

691
00:38:09,720 --> 00:38:16,520
online source I've been hearing
or I research or I found that

692
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,280
there's a lot of political ties
going into these EDC concerts

693
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,040
now too.
And look, you know, I'll even

694
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,760
kind of this is probably
something that Jake would agree

695
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,800
with mostly.
But like, and don't get me

696
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,440
wrong, like I used to be the
hippie, right?

697
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,640
I would do psychedelics and and
go to these types of festivals.

698
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,080
But understanding the things
that I understand now, I do

699
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,280
realize that that is a form of I
don't want to use the word

700
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:44,880
brainwashing, but you know,
manipulating of of your soul,

701
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,320
right?
Going to like EDC for instance.

702
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,840
Taking a bunch of psychedelics,
listening to this music, the

703
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,880
the, the frame rates and the
flashing lights with these

704
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,760
symbols in the background all
tied in together is doing

705
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,320
something to your subconscious
mind.

706
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,040
So.
Yeah, I just stopped going to to

707
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,440
raves.
I I watched a guy die at the

708
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,440
last rave I was at and I was
just like, all right, that's

709
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,680
enough for me as a security
guard.

710
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,840
So people came up, he was like,
had his, his water bottle off to

711
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,360
the side and there's a bunch of
chicks like grinding on him and

712
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,280
stuff, so clearly he's focused
on them.

713
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,640
Some guy walks up with just a
handful of crap and just puts it

714
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,600
right in his water bottle.
A bunch of guys come running up

715
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,800
and try to pull the water bottle
out of his hands because they

716
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,760
just watch this guy drug it
right?

717
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,680
And he gets all aggressive and
starts pushing him back and he's

718
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,080
like, gives him this weird look,
turns away and starts drinking

719
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,520
it.
And then 20 minutes later he's

720
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,720
on the ground foaming.
Paramedics are there and he

721
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:37,320
flatlines and they throw a sheet
over him.

722
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,360
And I was like, all right,
that's enough for me, you know,

723
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,760
I mean, I like the music, right?
I like this.

724
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,040
It's just, you know, it's great
to work out too and all that

725
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,600
sort of stuff.
It's good to dance too and

726
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,920
everything.
But yeah, it's just like that

727
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,840
sort of life and culture and
stuff like that, especially with

728
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,920
heavy drug use and everything.
But now, yeah, you see stuff

729
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:01,720
that gets there, It's either
that most stages I see these

730
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:03,840
days, they have a huge push for
this.

731
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:10,320
Like sort of, I don't know.
Eastern mysticism type thing

732
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,640
going on with their stages and
stuff like that.

733
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,320
And it's like, all right, well,
I mean, I guess it's all open up

734
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,320
your mind and blah, blah, all
this sort of stuff, you know?

735
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,480
Yeah, if you took the position
and looked at that type of thing

736
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,120
from the perspective of like
spiritual warfare, for instance,

737
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,760
right?
You could definitely make the

738
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,040
the the ties that this is some.
This is like promoting all forms

739
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,040
of degeneracy.
No offense to people who like

740
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,040
this shit.
Just saying if you took that

741
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,840
perspective, you know you're.
You're.

742
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,120
Right.
You see what I'm saying?

743
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040
So, but it is interesting that
they always have the owl.

744
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,720
Like it's a very prominent
feature, right?

745
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,400
So it's like like CJ said, man,
the the owl's eyes, man.

746
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,080
It's like the window to your
soul, bro.

747
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:55,320
Like it's.
Been a symbol for a lot of

748
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,720
different spiritual faiths and
paths and you know we're going

749
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:02,960
all the way back like pre
Christianity, pre Judaism, like

750
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,160
you know, the old gods, you know
the owl was always a symbol of

751
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,000
like the window to the soul and
the and and like the truth and

752
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,480
wisdom.
I was always regarded as a good

753
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,000
omen.
Except if you ask Kensar, she

754
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,280
hates owls.
She's scared.

755
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,080
Owls like, absolutely.
They they brought blessings and

756
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,360
things like that.
So like when you take it like

757
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,640
you incorporate, it's like a
it's like adopting something,

758
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,720
right, Like just because I can't
think of a better example.

759
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:31,720
It's like when the Nazis adopted
the swastika from Eastern

760
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,520
culture, where it meant like
wisdom and like faith or

761
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,120
something like that.
It was like a good luck syndom

762
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,760
symbol for the Chinese or
something like that.

763
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,520
And then the Nazis took it and
turned it into something evil.

764
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,320
It's like it's sort of the same
thing there, right?

765
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Like they take the album, they
can do something.

766
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,200
It's not bastardized it.
Right.

767
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,400
Yeah, exactly.
They bastardized it.

768
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,360
They inverted or perverted these
these symbols or these ideas.

769
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,720
And again, if we're taking the
conspiracy mindset here, right

770
00:41:58,720 --> 00:42:01,040
these people at Bohemian.
Grove Who are?

771
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,200
Infatuated with owls for
whatever reason?

772
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,960
Yeah, sure.
Maybe the owl is a good omen for

773
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,800
them.
Yeah.

774
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,080
Well, no, that's like they take,
they're like, oh, this is a

775
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,440
symbol that means truth to these
people.

776
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,480
Well, if we apply it to what
we're see, what we're doing,

777
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,600
then they'll associate that with
truth.

778
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,920
It's like a manipulation, right?
It's almost like a spiritual

779
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,400
gaslighting.
Yeah.

780
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,240
That's super interesting though.
Yeah, I I didn't know that Owls

781
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:34,240
were associated with screen
memories honestly until

782
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:38,240
listening to that episode.
But it makes a lot of sense when

783
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:41,200
I really think about, especially
thinking about things going back

784
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,480
to what I was saying about like
them encoding information in the

785
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,800
light and stuff.
Like we talked about the the

786
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,600
Gateway documents, right?
And you remember that section

787
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,480
that they're saying, hey, look,
the universe is a hologram.

788
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,240
Your mind is a hologram that
attunes itself to the universe

789
00:42:55,240 --> 00:42:58,880
hologram, creating consciousness
like holograms are it.

790
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,600
It's information encoded in
light and then decoded using

791
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,240
like whether it's sound or
vibration or whatever the case

792
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:07,320
might be.
Like that's what your brain is

793
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,440
doing, right?
We're just taking in light and

794
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,720
your your brain is taking these
signals and showing you what

795
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:17,760
your reality is, so.
Do you think that means like the

796
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,800
Do you think that means like the
mantis shrimp has a way better

797
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,560
concept of reality than the rest
of us?

798
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Why?
I don't know shit about mantis

799
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,840
shrimp except that.
They're so like we have like we

800
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,360
have like 3 cones and mantis
shrimp have like over 20.

801
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,920
So I can see all the different
wavelengths of light now.

802
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040
They can.
They can see on spectrums we

803
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,880
can't even begin to imagine.
Yeah, well, there's probably a

804
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,040
lot of animals like that, right?
Like you ever see your cat?

805
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,360
Like, look, there's no, I mean.
Well, cats can see an

806
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,960
ultraviolet, can't they?
Ultraviolet.

807
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Yeah, I'm not saying that all
animal or most more animals have

808
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,160
more cones.
I'm just saying like different

809
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,120
species can see different
spectrums of light, therefore

810
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,560
they're seeing.
Oh yeah, I mean it's not

811
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,760
uncommon.
Like birds can see UV, fish

812
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:09,760
communicate using UV.
Yeah, a lot of different species

813
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,480
in the animal Kingdom use either
ultraviolet or infrared and and

814
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:19,120
a lot of different things.
But to kind of to kind of jump

815
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,240
back into what I was talking
about.

816
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:25,960
Another thing that I cut out was
the amount of owl statues there

817
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:32,680
are in.
We'll just use Bohemian Grove as

818
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:40,800
the example, but Bohemian Grove
like organizations where they're

819
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,080
very heavy.
Heavy in like what cities

820
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,520
they're very heavy in.
There's a ton of owl statues.

821
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:51,200
New York City, Washington, DC,
San Francisco.

822
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,440
These cities are known or not
necessarily.

823
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,320
They're not known to the public,
but if you go there, you can

824
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,360
spot hundreds.
If not, like in New York City,

825
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,440
you can spot thousands of owl
statues.

826
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,560
If you look up the owl statues
in New York City, there's people

827
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,960
who make videos of these things
about how they just randomly pop

828
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,600
up in random locations.
And then another weird thing

829
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,400
about the ones in New York City
is that their eyes glow green at

830
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,160
some time, some random
intervals.

831
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,040
So that's that's another thing
that I had cut out.

832
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,520
But we've been on this subject
for quite a while.

833
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,600
But like I said, I could have
potentially made an entire

834
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,840
second part to this.
So Jeff, if you ever want to

835
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,840
create the second part of to
this, I'm pretty sure you can

836
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,520
probably make a really bad ass
second piece to this.

837
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:48,440
I'll consider it.
OK, with that being said, this

838
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:56,720
episode had no comments on it.
And another little fun fact is I

839
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:01,560
had a random person person
message me on Facebook asking me

840
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,680
for the original to the cover
art because he wanted to get it

841
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,600
tattooed on him.
I I.

842
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:11,360
Thought it was pretty.
Cool.

843
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:12,680
I was pretty.
Wild.

844
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,680
I sent it to him, I said.
Here you go, man, Do you think?

845
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,360
Did he send you a tattoo?
No, a picture of a tattoo.

846
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,880
No, no, no.
He he probably wanted to use it

847
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,400
for something different.
But whatever, man.

848
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:26,320
It's it.
I I love that cover.

849
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,320
I created that cover myself by
the way, completely by myself

850
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,840
using AI so.
By yourself.

851
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,960
Proud of myself.
Anyways, moving on to the next

852
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:40,720
episode.
CJ, this is yours, man.

853
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Bachelor's Grove.
So one thing I.

854
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,600
Want mini sewed compared to the
rest of these though?

855
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,720
Yeah, I tend to go a little
long.

856
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:53,360
But anyways, before I joined the
Navy, I was actually just a few

857
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:57,280
miles away from Midlothian, IL,
and if I had any idea that that

858
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,640
was there, I probably would have
went and checked it out.

859
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,320
And not a lot.
Of people know about it except

860
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,080
for the locals.
Yeah, my wife is from that area

861
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,280
and her family's still there, so
if I ever find myself back in

862
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,640
the area, I'm going to go check
it out.

863
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:14,480
I want to go fishing over there,
pull out a horse and buggy and a

864
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,480
farmer.
Some of the stories, they were

865
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:21,160
really crazy because a lot of
them, it felt like like they had

866
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,040
like like the initial stories
and then people were like, oh,

867
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,440
this is getting popular and now
we're just going to make stuff

868
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,160
up to like, keep attracting
attention to.

869
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,000
It.
Yeah, and like, it just never

870
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,880
attracted the kind of attention
people were looking for.

871
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:44,440
Yeah, it's I'm not too big into
the haunting aspect of things,

872
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
hence why we haven't really
covered it.

873
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:50,680
It falls well within the realm
of of what we should cover here

874
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,120
on the Infinite Rabbit hole.
And that's why, yeah, I'm happy

875
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,840
to have you on board here CJ,
because you can do that whole

876
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,720
genre of service when a lot of
us can't.

877
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,600
So it it it was a nice.
It was a it was it was nice

878
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,840
having that in the show because
I think when someone thinks of a

879
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,320
show that covers the paranormal
and the supernatural that you

880
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,080
know, hauntings is kind of just
like just fits.

881
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:19,640
So the.
Problem is, is like, without,

882
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:23,600
like the conversational aspect
and like the back and forth on,

883
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,800
like what people think, the
actual haunting stories aren't

884
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,760
very long, right?
Like when I was doing that show,

885
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,480
ethereally, yours make like my
longest one where I talked about

886
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,160
an actual haunting was maybe 40
minutes.

887
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,600
Yeah.
And that and that like covered

888
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:45,560
like everything, plus additional
like like tracking down like

889
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,920
what who like people actually
were and what what actually

890
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,840
happened to them in regards to
certain things like extra

891
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,480
research, not just the story.
And it was just 40 minutes.

892
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,240
What was the location of that
place again?

893
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:02,760
Midlothian, IL.
Because what I was thinking

894
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,440
listening to that was like, I
wonder if when I whenever I

895
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,000
think of like, spots that have
weird shit going on, I'm always

896
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,960
thinking like the Ley lines, I.
Didn't want to say that.

897
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,880
You know what I mean?
But it's it makes sense because

898
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,400
didn't we figure one time that,
what's that other place over

899
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,440
there?
Fuck, I don't know.

900
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,040
We figured one one time we were
talking about some place that

901
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,360
had like weird shit happening
and it was like right on the

902
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,680
intersection of a bunch of Ley
lines.

903
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,760
So my thought listening to that
was like, I wonder if that's

904
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,560
also lit on some Ley lines, you
talking?

905
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,200
About Skinwalker Ranch.
That might have been, I don't

906
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:36,840
know.
I don't know if it was

907
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,200
Skinwalker, might have been, I
don't remember, but that's my

908
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:41,880
thought.
Like so.

909
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,280
The problem is, they have like 3
consistent stories at Bachelor's

910
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,320
Grove.
They have the the Lady in White,

911
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:54,880
the Blue orb, and then the the
cemetery, the caretaker, right?

912
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:00,680
Except short of the blue light
and the the Lady in White.

913
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,280
There's no record of that
caretaker ever existing.

914
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,120
There's no record of that house
ever actually even been there.

915
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,400
There's no record of a Yellow
Hat Man there, the.

916
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:11,840
Curious George and the Man the
That's.

917
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,320
The first thing I thought about
too.

918
00:50:15,720 --> 00:50:18,080
Yeah, you like when they
described the, like, I didn't

919
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,360
give that guy any time on the
episode.

920
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,120
It would have been like 15
seconds and would like they way

921
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,600
they describe him.
He does look like the dude from

922
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,240
Curious George.
And.

923
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Like the the farmer who rode the
horse and buggy into the pond,

924
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,760
the pond didn't exist.
Like they hadn't done the quarry

925
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:36,720
yet, so it's not even possible
for him to drowned into a pond

926
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:42,040
that wasn't there.
They put the pond there to to to

927
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,960
hide the fact that he drowned in
the area where there wasn't a

928
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:45,440
pond.
Yeah.

929
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,320
Drowned in the dirt, right?
Based out in the grass, it was.

930
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:51,880
A puddle at the time, and it
just rained.

931
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,200
And he was.
Very drunk.

932
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,480
And then the only other one that
I like, I'm inclined to put some

933
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,840
substance into is like maybe the
black dog, because it makes

934
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,520
sense for like that, like the
lady in white and the blue orb

935
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,640
and things to start happening.
And like, people attract.

936
00:51:07,720 --> 00:51:11,880
People are attracted to that.
And like the mob did dump bodies

937
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,760
there in the 30s.
So it kind of makes sense for a

938
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,240
black dog to show up there
afterwards, like when you look

939
00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:21,120
at black dog mythology and like
the black Shuck and all that,

940
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,920
right?
But the rest of it is just like,

941
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,160
this was made-up just because
people wanted to jump on the

942
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,720
hype train.
Like the place started getting

943
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,600
the play.
It had like a whole lot of like

944
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:33,320
traction in like the 70s and 80s
for being like this like

945
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600
haunting hotspot.
It was like cool for people to

946
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,080
go there and like and then we
could start dying like he.

947
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:40,560
And you're like.
If you notice that when you go

948
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,520
through the the history of the
place, it's like real popular,

949
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,280
like for a little while.
And then when it starts dying

950
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,880
off and people start forgetting
about it, all the sudden there's

951
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,000
this huge burst of a new story
that comes out and gets people

952
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,320
to come back.
Well, two things I wanted to

953
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,240
touch on on this actually,
without touching on the black

954
00:52:01,240 --> 00:52:04,200
dog phenomenon because I I
always find that very

955
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,680
interesting.
But the Lady in White is you're

956
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,840
not your typical lady in white
where I'm very into urban

957
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:15,280
legends and a typical lady in
white, which is a common urban

958
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,000
legend throughout the, I would
just say America.

959
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,560
I'm not sure about the world,
honestly, but it's typically

960
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,600
tied to a specific location.
And a lot of times it's tied to

961
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:30,880
a Rd. where there's a a woman
who asks for, let's say like a a

962
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,040
ride home.
Like a hitchhiker if you will.

963
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,520
She's in a white dress.
She tries to get gain access

964
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:41,000
into your car.
That's typical.

965
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:44,400
That's.
Very symbolized and involved in

966
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:48,160
relationships specifically.
Yeah, specifically exactly and

967
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,240
thank you for filling that in.
Yeah, specifically men in

968
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:56,720
relationships trying to peel the
adulterers out of all of us.

969
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,920
That is your typical lady in
white.

970
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:03,440
So when when CJ was going over
the lady in white, I was kind of

971
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,800
waiting for a a sort of that
aspect to pop out, but it never

972
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:08,960
did.
So I was.

973
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,040
So I don't think it's like a
Lady in White is in the category

974
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:13,920
Lady in White.
I think it's just a title they

975
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:15,960
gave her because of the dress
they see her in.

976
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,880
Yeah, that's that's kind of what
I bought off of it too.

977
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,240
I I figured that was the case
after you went over that subject

978
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,360
and I was like, huh, you know,
that's that's interesting.

979
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,360
And then I I specifically, I I
had a notebook with notes on,

980
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,440
you know, your episode and the
Younger Dryas, because I didn't

981
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,320
specifically do research into
it.

982
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,360
So I had specific notes about
what to talk about.

983
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,800
And I remember that was one
thing that I wrote down and I

984
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,600
don't know where the damn
notebook is anymore.

985
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120
I don't know why I even kept it.
Anyways, the other thing I

986
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,360
wanted to talk about was the
only time that I came close on

987
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:59,480
this podcast to talk about a
haunting or a topic tied to

988
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:06,840
hauntings was the I don't know,
some people aren't going to like

989
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,880
this, but I wanted to dissect Ed
and Lorraine Warren and how much

990
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,080
of bullshitters they are.
Oh, OK.

991
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,320
Thank you, God, I was.
I was about to quit the infinite

992
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,920
rabbit hole again.
Right now for for those that

993
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,440
actually CJ, you probably know
more about this than I do, but

994
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,880
Ed and Lorraine Warren are
demonologists.

995
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:31,240
They're tied to very, very, very
big haunting.

996
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,680
Cases charlatans who showed up
and made situations worse

997
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,680
everywhere they went.
A. 100% and but they have this

998
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:42,080
cult like following and you'll
know things like the The

999
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,480
Amityville Horror and what's the
doll one called their CJ.

1000
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,840
Annabelle.
Annabelle A lot of them were

1001
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,880
made into big name or big name
Hollywood features.

1002
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,200
And there's way more than that.
There's Oh.

1003
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,080
Yeah, there's times.
What is that?

1004
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,040
The the one that starts with AC?
That everybody.

1005
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,640
That's a whole series of movies.
Conjuring.

1006
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,080
Conjuring, Yeah, yeah, Conjuring
series.

1007
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,840
It's all Ed and Lorraine Warren.
And like None of it is true

1008
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,880
like.
None of it.

1009
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:13,000
And the.
People who survived the

1010
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,400
encounters with Ed and Lorraine
Warren, like who are still alive

1011
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,240
and can talk about what it's
like to interact with them.

1012
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:19,400
They were like, no, they were
idiots.

1013
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,680
And they showed up and they just
like screwed everything up.

1014
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,960
They got under foot, they were
in the way and they just wanted

1015
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,320
to take credit for everything.
So there's a a sort of new show

1016
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,080
on Netflix that I was watching
the other day about a an

1017
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,520
exorcism or a case with an
exorcism tied to it and how Ed

1018
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,360
and Lorraine Warren got tied to
that.

1019
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:43,600
And the specific the boy who who
was being exercised is being

1020
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:48,320
recorded for this, the show.
And he's specifically talking

1021
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,080
about how Ed and Lorraine Warren
came in.

1022
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:57,000
They created all kinds of
publicity for it and then they

1023
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:03,760
made out with some some movie
contract.

1024
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,320
It might have even been
Amityville.

1025
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,280
I'm not 100% sure.
I was folding clothes at the

1026
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:09,880
time, so I wasn't fully
involved, but he was

1027
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,520
specifically talking about how
he, how Ed and Lorraine Warren

1028
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,400
fucked his entire family.
Yeah, it wasn't Amityville.

1029
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,960
Like, their involvement in
Amityville was so minuscule.

1030
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,960
Like, it's almost negligible.
It was just like, oh hey, this

1031
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,240
whole thing happened in
Amityville.

1032
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,800
And then for 15 minutes, Ed and
Lorraine Warren showed up and

1033
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,960
nobody cared back to Amityville
and like, So I don't know which

1034
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,280
story you're talking about, but
they did that like that.

1035
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,800
That's like that's like the
cookie cutter version of what

1036
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,320
they did everywhere they went.
Yeah, so the the show's called

1037
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:49,200
Devil on Trial.
It's it's on Netflix.

1038
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,480
I can't find a synopsis, so I
can't really tell you what it's

1039
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,720
what it specifically goes over.
But it's called Devil On Trial.

1040
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:03,480
So if anybody does want to watch
that, that is the closest that I

1041
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,960
ever came to doing a A haunting
topic minus the one time I

1042
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,360
thought that I could do an
episode on the Salem Witch

1043
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,520
Trials and realized it was
literally just history and there

1044
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,440
was no hauntings at all.
Yeah.

1045
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,640
If you ever want to do an Ed and
Lorraine episode where we just

1046
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,760
sit down and talk shit about
them, let me know them about it.

1047
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,800
I will call off work to do that
episode.

1048
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:27,040
Well, all right, travellers, you
heard it here.

1049
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,440
If you want to hear an episode
where CJ and I just talked shit

1050
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,560
about Ed and Lorraine Warren,
let us know and we'll make it

1051
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,640
happen.
There are no comments on that

1052
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,400
episode.
Sorry, CJ, nobody loves you.

1053
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,080
I'm not.
I'm not.

1054
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,520
Shocked to be honest with you.
But moving on, we're going to

1055
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,520
start off with the comment from
this episode.

1056
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,440
This is for the younger driest,
and this was done by none other

1057
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:55,920
than Jeffrey himself.
The comment here is Best episode

1058
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,560
in the multiverse by El Hefe
which is Jeff himself.

1059
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,360
He he literally commented on his
own fucking episode like a

1060
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,840
loser.
So.

1061
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,760
Here's the lady laughing at him
in the back.

1062
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,040
Can you post on Facebook and
like your own Post loser?

1063
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,640
I did, in fact.
So one thing to say about the

1064
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,320
Younger Dryas, and for some
stupid reason this ends up

1065
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:28,320
happening with Jeff, makes me
want to think rethink the entire

1066
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,720
infinite rabbit hole and what
direction we go in if in.

1067
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,760
A Jeff Hole.
Yeah, it should honestly just be

1068
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:38,640
the infinite Jeff topic hole,
because every time he does an

1069
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,080
episode, the topic just blows
out and plays.

1070
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,880
And this isn't hole.
Yeah, this the the Younger Dryas

1071
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:51,520
has definitely done incredibly
better.

1072
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,560
Well, it's so good.
Well, the only other episode

1073
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,920
that did better than the Younger
Dryas is the IRH news when we

1074
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,760
talk about Aliens in the mall.
But you have to think that we we

1075
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:07,520
caught that right when it
happened and it's it was also

1076
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:12,280
out a month and a half before
Younger Dryas.

1077
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,800
So it had enough, you know
enough time to kind of beat

1078
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,680
Younger Dryas and only beat it
by a handful of plays.

1079
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,080
So, Younger Dryas, who wants to
start us off there?

1080
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,720
I'll start it off.
I was down with nearly

1081
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,760
everything Jeff was talking
about.

1082
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:39,840
Not maybe not a comet impact as
I believe that most of the

1083
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:44,400
craters you see on Earth or the
calderas are actually from water

1084
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:50,080
coming up from the hollow earth.
Because prior to the flood like

1085
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,920
breaking through.
They make if you take an ice

1086
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:57,760
cube and you put it underneath
sand and then the ice cube goes

1087
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,480
away and it like all the sand
sinks, right?

1088
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,000
It compresses and stuff like
that from water being there.

1089
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:07,960
It makes a perfect round disk or
perfect round bowl the same way

1090
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,920
you see all the crater impacts
that are on the earth.

1091
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,720
Like I don't think that they're
actually from meteors, they're

1092
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,440
actually from water coming up
through there.

1093
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,680
But anyway, I digress.
So yeah, but I totally believe

1094
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,560
in lost civilizations.
I mean, I'm a Bible believer.

1095
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:24,960
Say it over and over and over
again.

1096
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,720
If you read the story of Noah's
Ark, the reason why God flooded

1097
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:33,480
the earth, it was because man's
heart was wicked 24/7.

1098
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,160
There was nothing good about us.
And you could speculate as to

1099
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,280
what that means.
It could just be like people

1100
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,600
were just like, I don't know,
cannibals just raping each other

1101
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,640
all day long.
Or it could be that there was

1102
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,120
ancient civilizations that had
an incredible wealth of

1103
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:52,160
knowledge.
I'm, I'm down with the idea that

1104
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,720
a lot of the ancient structures
we see here on Earth were built

1105
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,040
by people that didn't inhabit
them, as far as history says.

1106
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,760
You know, how did they get the
technology to make XY and Z when

1107
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:06,560
they only had the technology to
do, you know, these buildings we

1108
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,000
can obviously see that they
created because it has their

1109
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,080
their art style, their
architecture, that sort of

1110
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,760
stuff.
I'm down with that whole thing,

1111
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:15,800
Down with the whole giants
thing.

1112
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,440
You know, had were the pyramids
made giants, whatever, Who

1113
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:19,240
cares, right?
Maybe.

1114
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,400
Maybe not.
Could be slaves you know, Jewish

1115
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,400
slaves.
But yeah, I mean, I was, I was

1116
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,880
jiving like that whole episode.
I was like, I was like, yeah,

1117
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:34,240
yeah, you know, all the Atlantis
stuff and everything like that.

1118
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,000
Like it was, it was getting me
pretty good.

1119
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,520
The only disagreements I had
were like on the ages of things,

1120
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:42,360
saying that something was like,
you know these stones from

1121
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,520
Gobekli Tepe, is that right?
Gobekli Tepe.

1122
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:48,480
That's it.
I can't pronounce that.

1123
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:52,240
But that you know, they're
thousands and thousands and

1124
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:57,960
thousands of years old, older
than you know, the the Egyptians

1125
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,960
and things like that.
And it's just like, well, but

1126
01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:05,560
that's using carbon dating on
stone, which is inaccurate AF.

1127
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:10,120
Well, couple things real quick,
Two rebuttals to that.

1128
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,400
Number one, the the crater
impacts.

1129
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,640
Nobody's really ever found
crater impacts from the comet at

1130
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,400
the end of the Younger Dryas
because they would have impacted

1131
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,920
this tooth thick, two mile thick
ice sheet.

1132
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:22,840
So there's not really any
craters.

1133
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:28,040
The craters would have hit the
ice sheet and melted away almost

1134
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:32,440
instantly, right?
So that being said, after

1135
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:39,480
recording that they did discover
some pretty sizable, let's call

1136
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:43,400
them dents in the ground in like
I think it was in Greenland or

1137
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,000
Iceland somewhere.
That would have been right in

1138
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:49,520
the path of these impacts and
the way that they're shaped from

1139
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,480
what I understand is it's not
necessarily what we would

1140
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,800
consider like an impact crater
Now.

1141
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,720
It was more so as if something
did hit the ice sheet and

1142
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,360
compressed down creating like
this.

1143
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,720
Like a dip?
Like a different shaped crater,

1144
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,520
if that makes sense than what
you would expect to see, right?

1145
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,920
So that's the first thing.
The second thing, the carbon

1146
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,040
dating that they did at Gobekli
Tepe, and I remember carbon

1147
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,320
dating is not accurate beyond
50,000 years.

1148
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:18,720
The carbon dating they did in
Gobekli Tepe, they did not do on

1149
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,600
the stone.
All of those megaliths,

1150
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:26,680
Echobekli Tepe, were purposely
buried 11,000 years ago.

1151
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,240
So what they do like the
sediment layers?

1152
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:32,280
They as they've been digging,
they've been finding organic

1153
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,960
material that they were doing
carbon dating on down there and

1154
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:36,560
they.
But isn't it?

1155
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,200
Isn't it that carbon dating is
completely inaccurate if the

1156
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,040
thing gets wet?
It's in the desert.

1157
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,440
Carbon dating is inaccurate.
Like.

1158
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,880
Altogether they they gave
somebody a chicken.

1159
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,040
Bone as it used to be.
Yeah.

1160
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,240
No, it's it's just gave them
that chicken bone and they

1161
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,200
carbon dated.
It's like 11,000 years old.

1162
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:55,920
Yeah.
And it was like it was like a 5

1163
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,960
minute old chicken bone.
They just got done eating the

1164
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,080
BBQ sauce off of like.
I've shit all over carbon

1165
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:02,840
dating, so I'm with you guys on
that.

1166
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,240
But there is other ways to date
things.

1167
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,160
Right now, the the thing that I
find most interesting isn't

1168
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:13,680
necessarily the dating as much
as it is the fact that all of

1169
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,200
those sites in Quebec Le Tepe is
a big site.

1170
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,240
It's huge, right?
They've only uncovered like a

1171
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:20,640
small percentage of it, and even
what they've uncovered is huge.

1172
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,640
But the fact that it was
purposely buried, and it was

1173
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:29,400
buried with sediment, if you
will, from another location.

1174
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,920
So people purposely brought,
just like they brought the big

1175
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:36,440
stones to Egypt to build, you
know, the Giza Plateau, They

1176
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,960
were bringing these, the sand
and shit from somewhere else to

1177
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:46,960
bury this thing right as the
younger, driest period started.

1178
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,840
So it's as if they knew
something's about to go down.

1179
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,040
We have to preserve this.
Let's bury it.

1180
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,960
That's.
What's interesting, the other

1181
01:04:54,960 --> 01:05:01,040
thing that got to me too was the
ice core samples.

1182
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,400
I've seen that before and at
first I was skeptical.

1183
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:05,880
I'm like, what does that even
mean?

1184
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,520
But basically snow layers over
time compressing down on each

1185
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:15,280
other and you can see in those
layers of this was this

1186
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:19,840
represents 1/2 a year or a year
or ten years or whatever that

1187
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:22,880
layer represents.
There's changes to the

1188
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,080
atmosphere and the environment
and like different, you know,

1189
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,800
carbon levels and all that sort
of stuff in the environment.

1190
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,080
I think that sort of stuff is
fascinating.

1191
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,960
And that's what when I get into
my whole Christianity realm of

1192
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:40,080
like, well, is it a young earth
that looks old or is it an old

1193
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,480
earth that, you know, you know,
whatever.

1194
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:46,600
But either way, like that whole
thing, like I was, I was jiving

1195
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,080
like that was a a Dang good
episode.

1196
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,680
The only thing I didn't like,
really didn't like, was the

1197
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:54,040
volume, because as soon as we
got into an ad, my speakers on

1198
01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,560
my truck went through the roof
and blew my eardrums out.

1199
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,000
Yeah, So yeah, yeah, Sorry about
that guys.

1200
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,520
I am a music guy, so I can make
the music sound good, but when I

1201
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,880
start editing my own voice, it
is ass.

1202
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:09,040
I got to figure out the proper
levels for editing.

1203
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,560
Just yeah, whatever.
Yeah, whatever.

1204
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,640
But there, there's a lot to it,
man.

1205
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,760
And there's, and I don't know if
I made this very clear in the

1206
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:23,000
episode, but the younger, driest
period is not really debated,

1207
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:25,880
right.
Something happened that caused a

1208
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,520
dramatic change in the climate
at that time.

1209
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:33,000
Now the the debate is whether it
was a a fragmented comet that

1210
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:37,640
came in and hit the ice sheets
and then 1200 years later more

1211
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,120
fragments of the same comet came
in and hit somewhere in the

1212
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,400
ocean causing those two spikes
that you see on, you know, on

1213
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:47,520
their on their data, right.
The fact that those two spikes

1214
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,960
happen, though, not really
debated, you know what I'm

1215
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,160
saying?
So that's really where it comes

1216
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,680
down to.
Could it have been a fragmented

1217
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:54,840
comment?
Probably.

1218
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,160
That's what I think because we
go through the toward meteor

1219
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,400
shower twice a year, every
single year, and every single

1220
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,120
time that happens, there's
meteor showers, right.

1221
01:07:01,120 --> 01:07:04,640
So it makes sense to me.
Could it have been like a sky

1222
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:07,880
battle, like the the ancient
Vamana that the Hindu texts talk

1223
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,800
about and like a a super energy
nuclear war happening at that

1224
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,520
time that caught could have
been, I don't know.

1225
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,960
You know what I mean?
Yeah.

1226
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:22,560
Yeah, I think the the biggest
comments that I've had, one of

1227
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,680
the most common comments that
I've had about this episode was

1228
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:29,120
the Valium.
So thank you Jeff.

1229
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,800
I would like to say that your
voice is amazing.

1230
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:38,080
Absolutely knee shattering like
I was.

1231
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,080
I was weak, man.
If I.

1232
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,320
Blame I.
Blame his.

1233
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:43,360
Pants hell off while he's
listening to it.

1234
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:48,720
Like, if I if I swing that way,
I'd be like, dude, just read

1235
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:49,320
your.
Script.

1236
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,920
I'll take care of myself.
Jeremy was Jeremy.

1237
01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,960
Listening to it.
Jeremy, for the long issues,

1238
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:55,800
what?
A.

1239
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:59,680
What a recording, man.
What a recording.

1240
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:06,960
Beautiful voice, just gorgeous.
The was it the the music you put

1241
01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,400
behind it?
I I've started to notice that

1242
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:12,320
y'all are throwing like music
and stuff behind what when

1243
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,960
you're speaking.
I thought that it was really

1244
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,800
well placed.
It was like it was a really good

1245
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,920
episode, just it was a pleasure
to listen to it.

1246
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,200
Appreciate it Chad GBT wrote the
whole thing.

1247
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:24,640
I just read it.
You know, that was something I

1248
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,520
was going to say too.
I was just like I was sitting

1249
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,319
there thinking about I'm sitting
there driving, I'm listening to

1250
01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:29,279
it.
And I was like, Jeff doesn't

1251
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,760
even speak like this.
I I don't even think he wrote

1252
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,680
it.
Like I was going to force you to

1253
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,240
tell me who wrote this for you
and I was going to hide.

1254
01:08:36,359 --> 01:08:39,680
GBT.
Chad GBT he's like furthermore

1255
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,720
and I was like he doesn't say
that.

1256
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,600
He doesn't say.
Furthermore, he's.

1257
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:49,080
Never said furthermore.
But it is weird doing a podcast

1258
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:52,479
by that's the first time I've
ever done something like solo

1259
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,200
with nobody else to talk to.
And just like, record it.

1260
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,399
Like, it's very weird.
But let me do it a few times.

1261
01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:00,640
We'll dial it in, you know.
Good job, man.

1262
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,600
Now that's good.
All right, moving on.

1263
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,319
Gotta gotta make some.
Make some time up here.

1264
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,319
Stardust Ranch.
I can't.

1265
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:15,000
Touch your PS you said Mel's
hole and I was like, we can't

1266
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,040
escape him.
It's just I was like, I was

1267
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,399
like, it's just unescapable.
Mel's hole, it's just the the

1268
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:24,720
worst story I've ever heard.
The only believable part that I

1269
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:28,439
heard was when the guy said that
he pulled out his AK47 to shoot

1270
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,600
it at the craft or the beam or
whatever it was.

1271
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,279
That's the most.
Merkin thing I've ever.

1272
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:33,960
Heard I was like, I can buy
that.

1273
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,600
I literally, I'm, I'm shooting
all the time in the backyard

1274
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,160
waiting for the aliens to come.
Like I was like bring it, you

1275
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,720
know.
But yeah, Oh yeah, this the

1276
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,960
samurai sword.
There's Cortana fell off the

1277
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,840
back of a truck.
And that's how I got it.

1278
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:49,600
I was like, yeah, OK, you see
someone's property fall out of

1279
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:52,080
their truck and you're just
like, just so happens to be a

1280
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:54,000
Cortana that I'm going to use on
these aliens.

1281
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,800
Not I'm not.
I don't want to bag on this

1282
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:02,240
story so much because there are
a lot of people who are who are

1283
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,760
heavy believers.
And Edwards.

1284
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,520
A story, right Edwards?
Well, there's a lot of flat

1285
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,480
earthers too, but we talk crap
on that.

1286
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:11,520
True.
True. 1.

1287
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,160
Of them, one of them sitting on
the show.

1288
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,800
Can we do like a can we do like
a like a social experiment where

1289
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,440
like we take the people who like
they believe in it and the

1290
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:21,400
people who are like that's
nonsense and the people who

1291
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,120
like, I'm not sure.
And then like distribute an IQ

1292
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,760
test to everyone and compare
that data.

1293
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:31,000
No, but.
I think we could if we.

1294
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:32,680
Try.
They'd be like this guy doesn't

1295
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:35,520
even know how to read.
When I say.

1296
01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:42,360
I'd be like so.
When I say that I had to alter

1297
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:47,120
like I've I really had to work
hard to make this episode not

1298
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,000
sound like a parody of
skinwalker ranch.

1299
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:56,120
It was very, very difficult.
The whole Stardust Ranch thing,

1300
01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:02,360
I think is I don't want to come
off as rude man.

1301
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,040
I'm not.
I'm not buying it.

1302
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:10,400
But the idea of living at a in a
place where you have to night in

1303
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,240
and night out, fight off alien
beings with samurai swords.

1304
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,760
That sounds awesome.
Yeah, sounds like a lot of fun.

1305
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:18,880
Not gonna lie.
The the guy on the property I

1306
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,840
killed the monsters, I would
have been like dude, let's party

1307
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,360
bro.
Sounds awesome.

1308
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,240
Show me the monsters.
So there were two parts of that

1309
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:32,360
that actually kind of like lined
up with certain things like the

1310
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:35,440
way you guys described described
it, like the the way the aliens

1311
01:11:35,440 --> 01:11:39,360
were and how they interacted and
things like that lines up with

1312
01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:44,840
the interdimensional being lore
and then the bullets not doing

1313
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:49,040
anything, but the Cortana doing
something because it's iron

1314
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:51,120
katanas.
The original katanas were iron,

1315
01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,680
right?
Yeah, because of the bullets are

1316
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:56,680
LED iron effects, spirits and
interdimensional beings.

1317
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:58,480
Oh, See.
See.

1318
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:03,000
So says Supernatural.
So says in the individual lore,

1319
01:12:03,320 --> 01:12:05,600
Supernatural pulled that from
mythology.

1320
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:06,920
Well, I don't know.
I heard it first from

1321
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,360
Supernatural and SO.
You know, it's a lot of like and

1322
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,280
stuff.
That's why they used to put like

1323
01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,240
iron bars and stuff like they
would bury like iron spikes and.

1324
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:16,000
Shit.
Or they put horseshoes up.

1325
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,520
My two biggest problems,
honestly and and really the

1326
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,560
biggest grievance I would have
didn't didn't you mention that

1327
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:26,280
they wrote a book?
Yeah, Yep.

1328
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,280
See, when you when you're going
through something like this and

1329
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,920
then you write a book about it,
it just makes me think that you

1330
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,960
were just trying to write a book
about it.

1331
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,360
You see what I'm saying?
Like, right So.

1332
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,120
He gave him money.
Right.

1333
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,680
You know, so like pulling it
automatically.

1334
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:46,960
Isn't he?
My skepticism goes up a little

1335
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:51,200
more when you've written a book
about the thing because the

1336
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,680
money and the whatever right now
versus.

1337
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:54,200
Just throwing it out on the
Internet for free.

1338
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,720
Right.
So like, I'm already skeptical

1339
01:12:56,720 --> 01:12:58,680
about it.
So he did originally do that.

1340
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,320
He did originally put it on the
Internet for free.

1341
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,920
And I said Ed Edwards earlier,
but it's actually John Edmonds,

1342
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:12,920
not Edwards.
Yeah, the I I was.

1343
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:14,680
I was.
I'm not gonna lie, I was.

1344
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:20,840
I was interested in the entire
subject until the lady showed up

1345
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,760
with the Syrians and.
Oh my.

1346
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,160
Gosh.
Oh my God.

1347
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,440
To the horses.
And I'm like, Can you believe

1348
01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:31,640
people like this get paid?
There were so many titles to

1349
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:36,920
her, her profession like oh
gosh, I speak for the rocks too.

1350
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:42,320
And I'm not going to lie, I left
out a couple titles of hers

1351
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:43,800
because I couldn't pronounce
them.

1352
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:47,840
I'm not going to lie, there was
like three of them, man, where I

1353
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,560
left them out because I was
like, I can't pronounce this and

1354
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:53,760
I couldn't like, Google the
pronunciation, like there wasn't

1355
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,600
any of that, like, click the
speaker and it it pronounces it

1356
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,360
for you.
So I was like, yeah, fuck it,

1357
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,680
There's there's enough titles
here already.

1358
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:03,680
That's crazy.
Yeah.

1359
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,600
Oh, go ahead, go ahead.
My my favorite part of that

1360
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,640
story was when the lady showed
up the the random lady like they

1361
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:14,120
contacted her and she pulls up
with a friend who's like an

1362
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,480
alien and she brought like an
Armada with her and then she

1363
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:21,600
just walks out to the driveway
and then like holds her hands up

1364
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,600
like Rafiki and comes back and
like.

1365
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:31,880
It's done, Rafiki.
Yeah, I mean, look, dude, we

1366
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,920
can, I could, you could make the
argument like, hey, is this

1367
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,920
another one of these vortices or
Leyline intersections?

1368
01:14:38,920 --> 01:14:44,360
Is there some weird magnetic
force of the Earth happening at

1369
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,240
the spot?
And then it's like fucking with

1370
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,120
people's perceptions of things,
right?

1371
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,520
Or whatever.
Like, that's the only thing that

1372
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,640
I can think of.
I'm not going to discount that

1373
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,560
dude was having and and his wife
were having some weird

1374
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,800
experiences.
I just can't buy that.

1375
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:04,160
It was like the Grays at this
dude's house, 'cause it's like,

1376
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,920
again, there's so many other
places that the Greys could show

1377
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:12,480
up and that would be way more
effective than some random 10

1378
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,280
acre lot somewhere.
You know what I mean?

1379
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:17,160
Like, whatever their goal is,
whether it's to communicate or

1380
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,560
study or whatever, that's not
the place to do pretty much any

1381
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,920
of these things, right?
So to me it's like something was

1382
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:28,880
probably, you know, messing with
the perceptions of reality at

1383
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:30,880
this point, like in the in the
Earth.

1384
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,720
We're also going to just not
talk about the fact that Jeff's

1385
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,680
door opened itself, just.
Now I saw that it was a cat,

1386
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,240
though probably it.
Was a cat.

1387
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:42,160
So the the thing that I thought
about because I was I was

1388
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:46,560
debating on whether to do a
subject or a a a section in this

1389
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:51,160
report about how this could be
true and.

1390
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,320
If he made it up, be true to
him.

1391
01:15:54,920 --> 01:15:57,960
Right.
And then, you know, I was gonna

1392
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:02,760
go into the whole cosmic
trickster aspect of things, and

1393
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,600
I thought that that would be a
good way to kind of sum that up.

1394
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,680
But then I've never really
covered the cosmic trickster

1395
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,760
before on this show.
So when you cover the the cosmic

1396
01:16:12,760 --> 01:16:17,680
trickster or any trickster
right, Depending on what you

1397
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:23,000
call it, it honestly requires an
entire episode to explain.

1398
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,560
So I didn't really want to go.
In, is this what you're

1399
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:26,960
referring to?
Sort of.

1400
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,080
But this is a, this is a a a
different being sort of

1401
01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,160
altogether.
Nah, I mean, really, man, it's

1402
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,720
they're, you know, I'm not going
to get into it.

1403
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,080
Google it if you if you're
really interested in it.

1404
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,800
One day I will cover the the
concept of the of the cosmic

1405
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,840
trickster and that is something
that's pointed at in the

1406
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:56,400
Skinwalker Ranch lore as as a
possibility as well.

1407
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:03,360
But with that being said, there
is one more ranch that I will be

1408
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,000
covering eventually.
So I have Skinwalker Ranch,

1409
01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:10,080
Stardust Ranch, and a third one
here.

1410
01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:12,880
Probably gonna put some time in
between it, but I've already got

1411
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,440
the book.
Is there the only thing that

1412
01:17:16,440 --> 01:17:20,760
this episode was missing was
someone who has a ridiculous

1413
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,920
it's just ridiculous nickname
that they demand everyone call

1414
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:29,440
them.
I go by Dragon Skinwalker Ranch,

1415
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,320
that, that caretaker that the
Monster Hunter to be like, like,

1416
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:39,520
my name's Dave, but I go by
Shadow Man or something, some

1417
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,200
dumb, stupid nickname I'm just
like, it would have been a

1418
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,760
parody of.
That is crazy.

1419
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:47,800
So without saying it out loud,
this is the name of the.

1420
01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:50,280
Ain't never heard of it, bro.
No.

1421
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,000
And you know, a lot of people
haven't heard of that or

1422
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:57,000
Stardust Ranch and I will be
diving into that completely

1423
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,640
blind.
So the the research material is

1424
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,920
here, ready to roll.
So eventually you'll be getting

1425
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,880
a third ranch story.
And what's crazy about these

1426
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,880
three ranches is that they make
a perfect line.

1427
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:14,200
Perfect. 3 point line, Yeah.
Like Orion's Belt, The Orion's

1428
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:16,440
Belt of Ranches.
Almost like they fall on one of

1429
01:18:16,440 --> 01:18:19,160
the many Ley lines.
Almost like they do.

1430
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,480
Almost like they do.
Or a natural gas line one of

1431
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:25,640
the.
Either one, either one would

1432
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,400
mess with your mind for sure,
yeah.

1433
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,840
Anything else on this one?
No.

1434
01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:33,160
I like the episode.
I thought that it was good.

1435
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:34,480
I thought you presented it very
well.

1436
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:36,640
I thought it was fun.
It was a fun episode.

1437
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,800
I mean in in the way that Mel's
Hole was fun too.

1438
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,640
Right.
Mel's hole was Mel's hole was

1439
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,240
not fun.
Mel's hole was was annoying we.

1440
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,760
Had we had a blast doing Mel's
hole?

1441
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,680
Oh, we were tearing it up.
But yeah, that was.

1442
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:53,040
And then And then this happened.
Fun.

1443
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:55,000
This happened.
Fun fact, every time we

1444
01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:00,640
mentioned Mel's hole, That thing
like shoots up two or 300 plays.

1445
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,560
Yeah, it's hilarious and people
regret ever having.

1446
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:07,960
Listened to it.
All right.

1447
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:11,560
So that episode did have a
comment by Ryan Newland.

1448
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,920
He said great episode.
This podcast is bomb.

1449
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,200
Thanks, Ryan.
I appreciate you.

1450
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,680
Thanks, Ryan.
Bomb is a good thing, just so

1451
01:19:19,680 --> 01:19:20,640
you know.
Thanks man.

1452
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:23,720
Appreciate you.
Appreciate you really, really

1453
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,960
quick.
It's got really quick.

1454
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,480
I want to just touch on Injured
Cold.

1455
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:35,720
This was the episode in
celebration of our 100

1456
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,720
thousandth play.
So thank you travellers for

1457
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,960
taking the time to listen to us
100,000 times.

1458
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,880
I'm sorry, but I.
Appreciate if those was us.

1459
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:50,880
Yeah, probably.
No, no, I I make sure when I

1460
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:52,680
listen to it, I listen to the
raw audio.

1461
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:54,240
I don't.
I don't count my listen.

1462
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:58,680
But with that also being said,
the only other thing that I want

1463
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:02,560
to put out there is if you
didn't get a chance to listen to

1464
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,720
it.
During our part five of the

1465
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:09,760
injured Cold series that we did
back in the day, we had Tanya

1466
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,240
Darenberger on and she has since
passed.

1467
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:18,640
So I just want to put that out.
There she was, she was awesome

1468
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,120
and I'm just going to leave it
at that.

1469
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,640
So by all means, if you feel
like you need to, pay your

1470
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,480
respect.
Please do.

1471
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:32,800
She was a great, great addition
to the show for that episode and

1472
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,960
a resource that we no longer
have.

1473
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,960
So all right.
And very kind, super kind to do

1474
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,040
that interview with us.
Super kind.

1475
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,160
She was the nice one of the
nicest people I've ever met.

1476
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:50,720
And she's, she was very, very
open to the Q&A and you know,

1477
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,040
how does this work, how does
that work, that sort of stuff,

1478
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,520
you know, just kind of not
getting frustrated with us non

1479
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,120
believers I guess.
Yeah, she took, she took the

1480
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,400
heat very well, 'cause we hit
her with some some skepticism,

1481
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,440
for sure.
Yeah, it's good.

1482
01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:07,240
She's a good interview.
Yeah, she was great.

1483
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,040
Person.
She was awesome.

1484
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:15,800
She's gonna be missed for sure.
And then the last episode, the

1485
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:20,520
one that we will be coming out
tomorrow as of this recording,

1486
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:25,320
will have come out two weeks ago
as of the release and the one

1487
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:30,400
that I edited, the fastest and
worst editing that I've ever

1488
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,040
done in my life.
It's absolutely horrible

1489
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,000
editing.
Sorry, I was on a time frame

1490
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:37,440
with this one.
I hadn't.

1491
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:41,080
Railed.
Jake was supposed to do a

1492
01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:45,400
Colocanth episode, but then I
had to research, write up, edit

1493
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,880
and publish this episode.
The.

1494
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:50,560
Syrup season is only three weeks
long, Jeremy.

1495
01:21:51,480 --> 01:21:54,120
Well, anyways, so at least he
didn't.

1496
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,040
Quit the show this time.
That's true.

1497
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,240
At least he did not.
I just don't contribute, that's

1498
01:21:58,240 --> 01:21:59,920
all.
So.

1499
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,000
So pretty much the same, same,
same.

1500
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,520
So if you guys are listening to
that episode, you're like, damn

1501
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,200
this, this is a really shitty
job.

1502
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,680
Editing it's not.
It's good.

1503
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:15,280
No, it's it's really not.
It's absolutely terrible.

1504
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,360
Maybe.
Two things speak to you so much.

1505
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,680
I'm just used to the way that
you sound, so when I hear it I'm

1506
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,560
like alright.
Bro, I didn't even notice a

1507
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:24,720
difference, man.
At least the volume was right.

1508
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:27,160
Yeah.
Just really dropped the ball on

1509
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,000
that one.
So I actually researched how to

1510
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:35,040
edit podcasts faster and I went
down this this one guy's path of

1511
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,920
how to edit podcasts.
And yes, it did go fast.

1512
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,920
Not 100% happy with the way it
came out I'll I'm going to kind

1513
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,400
of alter it a little bit to to
my likings, see if I can't

1514
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,760
fiddle with things to get it
better.

1515
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:54,080
But with that being said, Shag
Harbour.

1516
01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,120
Look, man.
Look, man.

1517
01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:03,120
OK, first of all, we're talking
about the height of the Cold

1518
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,720
War, OK?
Yep, we're talking about a a

1519
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,160
military installation right in
the area.

1520
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:17,760
OK, this is got secret
technology testing written all

1521
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,800
over it, you know what I mean?
100% agree.

1522
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,560
That's all I'm saying wasn't
aliens.

1523
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:28,360
It was definitely testing.
I'll tell you, I didn't know

1524
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:32,080
anything about Shag Harbour.
I knew it happened.

1525
01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:35,960
I didn't really know the story.
I've always known it as the

1526
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,120
Canadian Roswell, which.
Doesn't make any sense.

1527
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,360
It it really doesn't.
It doesn't.

1528
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:45,720
And you know, we'll kind of get
into that a little bit more when

1529
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:48,760
we eventually do cover Roswell.
But the big difference between

1530
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:53,920
Roswell and Shag Harbor is that
there was debris and bodies said

1531
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:56,240
to have been recovered in
Roswell.

1532
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:59,240
And that's what makes Roswell
Roswell, right?

1533
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:05,280
Where Shag Harbor was.
The closest that you got to it

1534
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:11,360
was that that ship that was
doing a it turned into a like a

1535
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:15,960
a reconnaissance mission where
they were watching these alien

1536
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:21,400
beings fix a downed UFO under
the water in a Bay.

1537
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:31,480
It it was a great, great story.
The context was phenomenal.

1538
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:39,880
But I agree with Jeff.
I think this 100% was secret

1539
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,960
government doings.
I mean, there's, I mean, what

1540
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:48,120
about what I'm thinking is you
have some secret technology

1541
01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:52,760
that's able to fly and go, you
know submersible under the

1542
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:56,200
water, right?
One craft that can do both,

1543
01:24:56,480 --> 01:25:00,040
because if if any military can
develop something that can do

1544
01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:04,480
that, that's next level, right?
Because you think about billion,

1545
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:07,920
hundreds of billions that go
into like submarine research and

1546
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,480
then also hundreds of billions
that go into aircraft research.

1547
01:25:11,480 --> 01:25:14,800
If you could somehow merge the
two and just create one craft

1548
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,120
that can do both, boom, you're
good.

1549
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,520
So why wouldn't they be doing
that?

1550
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,120
And then also the bit about the
Russian, it was a Russian

1551
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:26,160
submarine that showed up, right?
You know that that that back

1552
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:29,000
during the Cold War, I mean
there was all of the listening

1553
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,120
programs and everything.
So it's like we knew what the

1554
01:25:31,120 --> 01:25:32,920
Russians were doing, the
Russians knew what we were

1555
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:36,280
doing, not to mention the remote
viewing programs that both of us

1556
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:39,000
were doing.
So you had psychics literally

1557
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:41,600
finding out secret programs that
were happening.

1558
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:48,000
So exactly the fact that the
Russian submarine popped up at

1559
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,520
that time was like the key for
me.

1560
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:55,000
It was like, OK, they knew
something was going down and

1561
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,880
they showed up to get their eyes
on whatever this thing was too.

1562
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:03,120
Right.
And honestly my personal opinion

1563
01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:08,520
is that this was a possibly a
Soviet craft and that the the

1564
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:13,520
Soviet sub had showed up to
assist or what not Because

1565
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,520
honestly if this was a Canadian
or an American craft there would

1566
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,480
never have been the ship that
watched it.

1567
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,960
It would just never would have
really happened.

1568
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:28,320
They they would have the the the
Canadian armed forces and the

1569
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,760
American armed forces have
always worked very closely

1570
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:36,160
together and one would have had
would have said to the other

1571
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,880
like hey get away from our shit
and they would have just kind of

1572
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,480
dealt with it.
But I I I really do think that

1573
01:26:42,480 --> 01:26:47,240
this was possibly Soviet and we
were watching this happen to

1574
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:51,800
gather information and then the
Soviet so came to either assist

1575
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:56,400
or try to block us from from
watching whatever was going on

1576
01:26:56,880 --> 01:26:59,200
and you know whatever happened
happened.

1577
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,760
There I I actually disagree.
I think it was probably more one

1578
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:08,040
of ours and the Soviets, I mean,
look back then, you know radar

1579
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:09,560
and all that wasn't what it is
today.

1580
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:13,600
So it's not unimaginable to
think that a Russian sub could

1581
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,520
have gotten that close to one of
like a Canadian installation

1582
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,440
somewhere without anybody really
knowing, right?

1583
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:22,360
Like, I'm sure it happened all
at the time, but the thing that

1584
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,240
really also grabbed my attention
was that they used that that

1585
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:30,720
whole situation to further the
Project Blue Book.

1586
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,480
So this is like one of those
things where it's like, hey man,

1587
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,800
what if we just like kind of
make the story seem a little

1588
01:27:37,800 --> 01:27:39,800
more crazy?
Maybe we'll actually have some

1589
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,840
civilians get eyes on this thing
and then that'll get us more

1590
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,320
funding.
Because you think about the

1591
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,000
millions of dollars and all the
people whose jobs at the time

1592
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,160
were were dependent on Project
Blue Book.

1593
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:54,120
Why wouldn't they do some form
of a false flag event to just

1594
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:56,840
get more funding to keep the
project going, right?

1595
01:27:57,160 --> 01:28:02,480
See, there was so many other
different UFO incidents that

1596
01:28:02,480 --> 01:28:05,640
happened around the Cold War
time that I think better fit

1597
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:07,880
that narrative and eventually
we'll cover them.

1598
01:28:10,360 --> 01:28:11,640
I'm not saying that's the only
one.

1599
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,280
I'm just saying, you know, like,
here's a piece, another thing we

1600
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:15,560
could be like, hey, we need more
funding.

1601
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:16,920
Look, man, there's shit going
down.

1602
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,680
And the Russians are even
looking at it too, like, oh

1603
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:20,760
shit.
But if you look at the politics

1604
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:26,880
from the US, Canada and the
Soviets there, there was

1605
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,360
definitely a lot going on
between those three parties,

1606
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:35,920
especially with us teaming up.
I I personally personally I'm

1607
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:42,400
still on board with it being
Team Soviet Craft and and I I I

1608
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:45,480
do agree that there probably was
a false flag created at some

1609
01:28:45,480 --> 01:28:52,280
point somewhere using a quote UN
quote UFO to help garner create

1610
01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:59,080
interest and get funds for the
project Bluebeam or or you know

1611
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,720
equal programs.
But I don't think that was the

1612
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:06,000
one.
Maybe I'll maybe I'll cover one

1613
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,320
of those here soon so we can
talk about that.

1614
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:13,600
But yeah, there there's a lot of
other USI wouldn't say a lot,

1615
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,000
but there's at least three that
I can think of that happen

1616
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,160
around the same time frame,
where I think those were much

1617
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,920
more.
Impactful.

1618
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:27,400
Yeah, well, when in in the sense
of getting funds as a false

1619
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,720
flag, I definitely think that
there was some some better ones

1620
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:34,360
out there to fit.
That it wasn't aliens, bro.

1621
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:40,760
That's all I'm saying.
I I would like to hear AI want

1622
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:44,400
to hear one of the the
interviews with with one of

1623
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:49,400
those steel guys or the you know
whoever was tasked with watching

1624
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:54,280
that happen at the bottom of the
the Bay there and see if he

1625
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:56,320
can't actually describe what
they saw.

1626
01:29:56,320 --> 01:30:00,400
Because one thing in in water
man, especially in saltwater,

1627
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:04,440
you can't see that far down.
That's, you know, that's the

1628
01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:06,680
first thing that I thought of
when I when I saw that.

1629
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:11,360
And that actually may lend to to
believability of what you were

1630
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:16,720
saying.
If if one person is floating

1631
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:20,880
around that top of the water
looking down and just watching

1632
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,360
as these alien beings are fixing
this craft, you're not seeing

1633
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:28,200
much, if anything, be honest
with you, especially in salt

1634
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:28,920
water.
It's just not.

1635
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:30,440
Going to happen and they're
definitely.

1636
01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:32,440
Seeing you.
Oh yeah, they're they are.

1637
01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:35,760
They're definitely seeing you.
They may not see see you, but

1638
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:41,680
they'll see you on on equipment.
And if if we were watching them

1639
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,280
with equipment as well, there'd
be no reason to have a person in

1640
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,160
the water.
So I'm not 100% sold on this

1641
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:51,440
guy's story.
You think that's what the aliens

1642
01:30:51,440 --> 01:30:53,920
think?
They're like, hey, that guy sees

1643
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:55,160
us and they're like, nobody
cares.

1644
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:56,760
No one's going to believe him
anyway.

1645
01:30:57,440 --> 01:30:58,360
Maybe.
Maybe.

1646
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,120
Good, good possibility there
too.

1647
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:05,600
But yeah, I love, I love that
story.

1648
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,560
I I definitely think something
happened.

1649
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,440
Something happened and something
went wrong.

1650
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:16,480
Whether it was an alien craft or
a Soviet or you know, AUS or

1651
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:22,800
Canadian test craft is, you
know, up for debate.

1652
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:24,880
But I I do believe something
happened.

1653
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:29,520
There's enough evidence, enough
recorded history, to say

1654
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,120
something happened.
For sure.

1655
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,720
Saw some shit go down for sure.
Yeah, there's FAA records.

1656
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:40,400
There's, you know, I, I know
they're easy to dock.

1657
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:47,080
But military records, a lot of
newspapers, a lot of eyewitness

1658
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:51,320
testimony that there's a lot, a
lot to point that yes,

1659
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,240
something.
And nobody saw an owl.

1660
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:56,000
Good.
Question we know of.

1661
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:58,640
Good question.
Maybe they saw water an owl

1662
01:31:58,640 --> 01:32:00,240
under the water.
Maybe they.

1663
01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:03,280
Were they were owls?
Maybe they were owls that were

1664
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:04,360
fixing the craft.
Who knows?

1665
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:08,680
The craft from the abyss, Yeah,
they had to drink the OR.

1666
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,040
They had to breathe in the pink
stuff.

1667
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,520
It was actually watching that
thing get repaired underwater,

1668
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:15,880
because you need eyes that big
to see it down that far.

1669
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,440
True, but this topic was
recommended by Justin, who came

1670
01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:26,680
on the episode for episode 137
of Black Hole Chat, where we

1671
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,160
talked about Justin and some of
his endeavors.

1672
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,320
I still talk to you.
Nice guy do.

1673
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,080
You good?
Yep.

1674
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,960
Well then he'll he'll appreciate
that this was done.

1675
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,920
Hopefully he he sees it.
I haven't seen him too active in

1676
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:42,960
in the group lately, so
hopefully he does.

1677
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:46,160
Deleted his Facebook.
Oh, well, good for him then.

1678
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,640
Yeah, good for him.
Well then hopefully he does

1679
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:52,760
appreciate the episode because a
very long time ago we had, we

1680
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:57,120
had asked for recommendations
and he had it was literally just

1681
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:59,680
a comment that said do the Shag
Harbor incident and I was like,

1682
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,080
huh, I was like totally forgot
about Shag Harbor.

1683
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:04,880
I should do a Shag Harbor
episode.

1684
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:09,080
And I I grabbed a couple books
and dove in and I've actually

1685
01:33:09,080 --> 01:33:13,160
had the the research halfway
done for a very long time.

1686
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:17,920
And then you know when the when
Jake said he wasn't able to

1687
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,760
finish Kola Camp, I was like, Oh
well, this is a perfect time to

1688
01:33:20,760 --> 01:33:22,960
finish.
Not only was I not able to

1689
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,240
finish it, I didn't start it.
Yeah, well, I didn't want to say

1690
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,480
that, but that's true.
I jump.

1691
01:33:28,520 --> 01:33:31,560
The ball, we all fail sometimes
and I failed really hard.

1692
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:34,160
Sorry guys.
We'll see if it comes out next

1693
01:33:34,160 --> 01:33:35,640
quarter.
Probably not.

1694
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,680
Does anybody want to give us a
tidbit as to what we're doing?

1695
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:43,680
Next quarter no.
What do you?

1696
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:44,840
What do you?
What are you?

1697
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,960
Asking us for, I don't know, a a
peek under the curtain, some a

1698
01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:49,920
little reward for making it this
far.

1699
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:51,400
What's?
Pay no attention to you want.

1700
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,160
To look up our skirts.
That's what you're asking.

1701
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:57,640
Yeah, yeah.
Do you guys have any ideas of

1702
01:33:57,640 --> 01:33:59,000
what you're going to cover next
quarter?

1703
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:02,160
Not a single clue, man.
No, I do.

1704
01:34:02,440 --> 01:34:03,600
Nope.
I do.

1705
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:05,720
Jake's not going to do anything.
He's going to tell us to do

1706
01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:07,680
something and not do it.
You know what?

1707
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,840
Just for that, I'm going to keep
it to myself.

1708
01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:11,640
And then you're going to be
surprised.

1709
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:13,960
You're going to be you.
Won't be surprised because you

1710
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:15,600
won't do it.
Then we'll be like we knew it.

1711
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:16,760
Yeah.
You're either going to be

1712
01:34:16,760 --> 01:34:18,840
surprised or you're going to be
like that's typical.

1713
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,840
In true, in true Jeff fashion.
I'm gonna wait till the very

1714
01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,720
last minute and then I'm gonna
cram it all in.

1715
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:26,320
Very well knocked.
Out of the park.

1716
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,640
Well, I will give you guys a
peek, because the very next

1717
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,400
episode that you're gonna hear
from the Infinite Rabbit Hole is

1718
01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:37,280
the story and history of Pepe,
the Lake monster of Lake Pepin,

1719
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,440
which was a recommendation.
No, not a frog, which was a

1720
01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:45,080
recommendation from a very young
fan of the show.

1721
01:34:46,200 --> 01:34:51,560
Little little girl, I believe
she's either 9 or 10, who said

1722
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,720
that she wanted us to cover a
lake monster.

1723
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,600
So.
Wait, people are letting their

1724
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:56,960
children listen to us?
I was.

1725
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:58,680
Just thinking the same thing.
Girl I.

1726
01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:03,640
I I I don't.
I I wouldn't say all the

1727
01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:06,240
episodes.
I've cussed like 17 times this

1728
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,480
episode alone.
So I don't I don't think she's

1729
01:35:08,480 --> 01:35:12,520
going to listen to this episode.
I I I have it on very good

1730
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:17,560
account that it is filtered
before the kid listens.

1731
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:23,040
Isn't Pepe the Frog from 4 Chan?
Sure, but this is Pepe, not

1732
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:24,600
Pepe.
Oh.

1733
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,480
Yeah, Pepe.
Pepe.

1734
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:29,600
The monster of Lake Pepe.
Wait, should should we start

1735
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,920
like, like No censoring
ourselves so little kids can

1736
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,200
listen like if we have a?
No.

1737
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,760
I censor myself.
This is a This is somebody I've

1738
01:35:40,160 --> 01:35:42,800
I have.
Redacted statement from Jake.

1739
01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:48,080
I have talked to mom and mom
said that she's allowed to

1740
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:49,760
listen to the documentary
episodes.

1741
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:54,360
So we were not talking about
like prison pockets and stuff

1742
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:57,360
like that.
Correct, correct.

1743
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:01,760
And when when I had talked to
mom, I was like, Dang, you know,

1744
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:06,680
we covered Ogo Pogo and and a a
couple other, you know, Loch

1745
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:09,160
Ness and stuff.
And I was like, eh, Focal Pogo

1746
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:12,120
might be OK, but I think Loch
Ness, I think that probably

1747
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:13,560
wouldn't be a good one for them
to listen to.

1748
01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:17,240
I said, well, I got a question.
Yeah.

1749
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:22,440
When you were doing the episode
on the ranch, Stardust Ranch,

1750
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:26,240
towards the end of it you said
something and I wanted to

1751
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,040
confirm what you said because I
listened to it a few times.

1752
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,640
I was like, I think this is what
he said, that the wife was

1753
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:37,520
kidnapped several times.
Yeah, and that is that is her I.

1754
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,400
Thought she was levitated
several times and only kidnapped

1755
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:42,760
once, like when they put her
through the wall.

1756
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,960
No.
At the end of the episode I had

1757
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,520
been mentioned that I didn't
cover stuff from other sources,

1758
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:55,280
including his wife.
His wife, also at the end of his

1759
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:59,400
book, wrote a chapter, a small
chapter about her own

1760
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:05,040
experiences, and there was
mention of her being kidnapped

1761
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:06,720
by alien beings and raped.
Yes.

1762
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:11,440
Oh.
So to go back to your other

1763
01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:13,360
question.
But you said that the greys

1764
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:18,520
didn't have genitals.
Didn't say that it was exactly

1765
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,680
the greys that took her anyways,
Jeff.

1766
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:25,960
I was.
Thinking about getting Dave

1767
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:29,800
Sheely on next season I.
Don't know who that is, but

1768
01:37:29,800 --> 01:37:32,080
yeah, do it.
The Bigfoot guy bro.

1769
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,360
Oh, oh.
Oh, that guy?

1770
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,280
Yeah, yeah.
Now he's.

1771
01:37:36,280 --> 01:37:38,520
Not going to come on because you
said that he's going.

1772
01:37:38,600 --> 01:37:40,720
To be Bigfoot didn't know who
that was.

1773
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:42,760
Yeah, now he's not going to.
Come on, you better need that

1774
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,400
part out.
Annunciate Man, God damn it.

1775
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:48,480
Of course I know who that is.
Yeah, I want to know what Jake

1776
01:37:48,480 --> 01:37:51,600
was planning to do now.
I don't want to tell.

1777
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,520
You because you're going to.
You got to bring it up.

1778
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,400
You.
You based on me 17 times a day.

1779
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,880
I I do saying that you had to
face for podcasting all that

1780
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:04,240
stuff she's.
What?

1781
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:06,880
Sheep squats, Sheep squats.
You better.

1782
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,080
You better do it right.
Well, I mean, I'm going to

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01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,200
present it.
Yeah, you better do.

1784
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:13,120
Right.
Good.

1785
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:17,000
Dude, I'll do, I'll, I'll just
halfway the whole thing, just

1786
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:18,720
because you said that.
Yeah, I'll tell you.

1787
01:38:18,760 --> 01:38:21,600
I'll tell you what, it's going
to be a fun episode for you at

1788
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:23,880
least to research.
We did an episode on that on

1789
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:27,680
Crypto Technical years ago.
Yeah, you can't find it anymore

1790
01:38:27,680 --> 01:38:31,400
because we took it all down.
But it was a it was a it's a fun

1791
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:33,560
story if it was.
Up.

1792
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:37,640
If it was up, I would literally,
verbatim say the exact same

1793
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:42,400
thing and put it out on here.
I'd be like, did my research,

1794
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,880
did all of you.
If you verbatimed anything we

1795
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,160
did on Crypto Technical, Jeremy
would never upload it as an

1796
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:52,840
infinite rabbit episode.
I've tried to make I buy myself

1797
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,640
that shirt that says I was
censored and infinite rabbit.

1798
01:38:56,840 --> 01:39:00,760
Guys, we got to cut it here.
I'm getting yelled at and have

1799
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,160
to go do dad stuff.
Yeah, it's past my bed.

1800
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:04,160
I.
Didn't get to tell what I was

1801
01:39:04,160 --> 01:39:05,520
going to do.
What are you going to do?

1802
01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,080
What are we going to do?
The Shakespeare Conspiracy, The

1803
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,880
anti struck 4 year theory.
I gave you guys so much time to

1804
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,040
talk about it.
You're like.

1805
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:16,360
Everybody else talked.
I was waiting.

1806
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:17,600
I was because I.
Talked a lot.

1807
01:39:17,840 --> 01:39:19,800
We just spend the whole time
interrupting each other.

1808
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,240
I mean it's.
Yeah, the Shakespeare conspiracy

1809
01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:25,000
is going to be great because
that's going to be the first

1810
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,800
historical conspiracy that we
get into.

1811
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:29,520
Yeah.
Yeah, Shakespeare didn't

1812
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:31,400
actually exist.
Yeah.

1813
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,080
Good stuff, I mean, obviously.
Yeah, You didn't know

1814
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,000
Shakespeare was fake?
All right, guys.

1815
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,000
Well, that has been another
episode of the Infinite Rabbit

1816
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,960
Hole podcast.
We'll see you next week when we

1817
01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:46,080
cover Pepe the lake monster of
Lake Pepin.

1818
01:39:46,680 --> 01:39:48,920
And we'll talk to you again in
another three months.

1819
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:52,040
When we do the next wrap up
until next time travelers, we'll

1820
01:39:52,040 --> 01:39:54,000
see you.
The next fork in the path.

1821
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,240
The infinite rabbit hole.
Bye bye.

1822
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:58,800
Oh, you gotta say it.
Say it.

1823
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:00,400
Oh, bye.
All right.

1824
01:40:00,400 --> 01:40:01,160
There you go.
Say it, Jeff.

1825
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:01,800
We're away.
Go.

1826
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:07,480
There.
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This line represents the time as
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The timeline viewed into this.
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