July 9, 2024
173. UFOs Over Elmwood 2: The Forster and Wheeler Encounters (CHRONICLES)
Today, we dive into the second part of our coverage on the small town of Elmwood, Wisconsin as we peel back a few more layers on what it has in its history. The Forster and Wheeler encounters are by far the three biggest and most impactful encounters that this town has to offer, and they are amazing. But what makes each of them so incredible is the fact that all of them have multiple people reporting the same thing or that were also there at the time of the event. All this and more as we dive into the mystery of UFOs Over Elmwood, Part 2. Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole!
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Welcome back to The Infinite
Rabbit Hole.
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I'm your host, Jeremy, and today
we're going to dive into Part 2.
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Of our coverage of UFOs over.
Elmwood And on this installment,
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we'll peel.
Back the layers of the.
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Forester and Wheeler encounters.
Now these. 3 encounters are
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huge.
To the story of what?
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Happened in Elmwood.
And why this little?
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Small town in western Wisconsin
really has a case for being one
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of the absolute strangest places
on the face of this planet.
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I'm not going to go ahead and.
Soak up all your time today,
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travelers.
Let's go ahead.
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And jump right in.
Now this is going to be the.
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Shortest episode of this series,
but it will hit the.
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Hardest, but hang tight and
enjoy.
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The Forrester Encounter March.
2nd 1975 An 8 month pregnant
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woman by the name of.
Carol Forrester and her three
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children, ages 4. 5:00 and 8:00
were on their way home from a
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family lunch at Carol.
'S mother's house.
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In the town of Arkansas,
Wisconsin, about 17 miles away,
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everything seemed to be going
just fine until they.
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Spotted what they thought was a
very bright.
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Star in the sky on County Road
P, but as they continued.
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Their drive.
They realized that whatever it
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was, it was much closer.
And seemed to be following them
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from a distance every.
Turn Carol made the star seemed
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to turn.
With them and.
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Quickly closed the gap.
Between itself and the.
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Forester, Chevy with the
realization.
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That this was no. *.
She contemplated stopping at the
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closest farm to have someone
else witness it, but ultimately
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decided against it and.
Carried on towards her house,
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Carol Forrester tells of her
experience.
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In the April 1989 edition of an
unknown magazine.
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Article by Steve Kaplan.
Quote when I got.
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About 3 miles.
From our farm.
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It was directly above us and it
was.
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Lower than any star I had ever
seen in the sky, and then a
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little past Mimi.
Weber's house.
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It was suddenly one or two car
lengths ahead of me.
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The ship was so bright it was
like.
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Looking at a light bulb, it was
blinking on and off.
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It was shaped like two cereal
bowls tipped together, and there
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was a row of windows across the
center.
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This understandably upset not
only.
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Her, but also all three of the
children.
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In the car.
Her oldest, Mary who?
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Was in the front passenger seat
and who was the first to notice
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the anomaly, as well as the
younger two in the back in
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response, Carol.
Reversed away from whatever it
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was while.
Mary was yelling, Mom, it's
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coming at us.
Carol backed up all.
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The way until.
She was able to.
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Reverse into the driveway of
Mimi and Roger.
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Webber, according to.
The May 24th, 1989 edition of
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City Pages magazine.
Carol and her children exited
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the car and.
Approached the Weber house where
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they were greeted by Roger.
Mimi and their two teenagers.
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John and Laurie.
A side note.
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Author Howard Bloom describes
this.
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Portion of the event much?
More thoroughly of the.
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Portion of when Carol and her
children were.
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Driving under this craft for a
bit.
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He mentions that the orange.
Light that this craft.
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Was emitting engulfed the.
Car and Carol was.
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Frightened, as it seemed to
make.
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Her daughter, Mary.
Glow orange.
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He also mentions that Mary at
one point.
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Opened the passenger side.
Door and was ready to jump out.
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Before Carol grabbed her and as
a consequence drove their car
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off the road.
And onto Apache ice and snow.
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Fortunately nobody was harmed,
but I wanted to add.
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This little bit as.
Bloom's book.
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Out there was the only.
Source that I found that
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mentions the.
Forester encounter in this.
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Way now from the Weber's home
actually owned.
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By Roger's mother, Miss Karl
Weber at the.
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Time they all could see the
object moving just above the
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tree line, which obviously.
Convinced Roger that this was a
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real situation.
According to Noah Voss in his
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book UFO Wisconsin.
Carol and Roger originally
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discussed the possibility that
it was a satellite.
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Another side note, another.
Detail that I.
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Only found in author Howard
Blum's book Out There was the
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name of the owner of the.
House that Carol approached
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being Jack Bayer rather.
Than the Weber.
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'S where Blum described Roger
as.
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Being Bayer's son.
Of course.
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There is a chance that they are
one in the same, but I was
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unable to find any information
to clarify this inconsistency.
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My honest opinion here is that
Blum didn't have the.
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Approval to use the.
Weber's actual name.
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So in order to keep them
anonymous, they use the name
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Jack.
Bayer, but this could also be
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false.
Just wanted to throw it out
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there.
I did have a.
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Ton of sources including
newspaper articles, magazine
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articles.
A recording of a very, very
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popular show.
From 1988 which?
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We'll discuss a little bit in
part three.
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That all said that this was
Roger Webber.
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Not Jack Bayer.
Now to get back on track.
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Happy that someone else saw the
strange thing in the.
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Sky Carol began to try the
drive.
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Home again.
With her three children.
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This is when things began to
take a turn to the.
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Very strange.
The craft reapproached and
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lowered all the way down to the
road just in front of her.
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So close, in fact.
That Carol had to stop her car.
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And once again reverse.
Back to the Weber's house,
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according to Voss quote, Roger
responded.
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To the noise of.
Carol's Horn.
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Blaring and rushed.
Out of the house, reportedly to
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see the.
Object lifting up.
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Past the treetops, Roger decided
it was.
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Best if he escorted the family
to their home.
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As the craft followed the two
cars all the way to Carol's
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house.
At a distance of only a few.
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Car lengths behind before it
settled above the pasture of the
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Forester farmhouse.
According to City Pages
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magazine, When Bud.
Forster, Carol's husband.
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Came home from a snowmobiling
excursion with.
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Carol's father, Bill.
He was able to see the strange
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craft through their dining.
Room window.
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Before it shot.
Off into the distance.
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Carol, Bud, Roger.
Mimi and all of their children
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would.
Later describe the craft.
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As glowing orange.
Or having numerous orange lights
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with a.
Dome on the very top and had.
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Four legs or supports.
Underneath it.
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Most reports that I found.
Described the craft as being.
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Roughly the size of a car, but
there was a few that quoted.
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Carol as saying it was 10 or
even 20 times.
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Bigger than her 68 Chevy, but
just to be clear.
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Most of them.
Said that it was roughly the
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size of a car, Carol told
investigator Jack Bostrack, 2.
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Weeks after the incident that
her two younger children.
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Refused to sleep.
Alone and were giving her and
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her husband issues around
bedtime every night when that
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used to never be the problem.
Carol stated to author Howard.
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Bloom that they would suffer
horrible nightmares that kept
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them awake most nights than not.
They would eventually find a
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routine of sleeping in the
living room together.
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With all of the.
Lights on.
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For nearly three years as well
as also.
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Refusing to use the outhouse at
night.
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As they were petrified that the
craft would.
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Come back and take them away.
Officer George Wheeler's.
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Encounters Encounter one Sunday,
April 6th, 1975 at approximately
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11:30, Researcher Bill Johnson
quotes.
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Officer George Wheeler as.
Describing the object.
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As quote.
A large ball of flame.
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He noticed it as he was
beginning to take a left onto
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County Road PP when he watched.
As it took a path.
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Straight in front of him from
the direction of Kramer's Hill.
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This of course caused.
Him to give.
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Chase to it quote my first
thoughts was.
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That it was a. 747 and it was on
fire.
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And was going to crash.
As the craft.
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Began to slow down.
Officer Wheeler pulled over.
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Into a ditch and watched.
As it flew overhead.
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More than one source mentions
Wheeler describing having to
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jump.
Out of the cruiser as he thought
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that it.
Was going to hit him directly
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while others mention him
watching it from the driver.
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'S seat either account.
You want to follow, Wheeler
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reported.
Watching it as it.
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Flew directly over.
Him at about 1500 feet before
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coming to a still.
Hover over a flat field and
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pasture.
It was now.
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Obvious that this was.
Not.
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A 747 Officer Wheeler would
later.
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Go on to describe it as being
cigar.
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Shaped with rounded sides.
Quote like two cereal bowls put.
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End to end while illuminating
the ground, sky, and.
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Countryside around it as well as
reporting quote.
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I'd say it was the size of a
football field shortly after
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stopping the craft.
Turned, lurched and took.
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Off at what Wheeler describes to
author Howard.
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Bloom as in quote UN quote
instantaneous speed while
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performing 90°.
Turns.
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This event affected Officer
Wheeler so much that he began
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carrying field glasses and two
types of cameras, one of which.
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Was specifically.
For night time photography in
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which he kept in his cruiser.
At all times he would also place
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a call.
To the previously mentioned
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nearby UFO researcher by the
name of Bill Johnson of
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Menominee attempting to get
answers.
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As to what it was.
His specific questions came from
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concern for the safety of the
town of Elmwood and its people.
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George's wife, Doris.
Mentioned in an interview in
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1989 with City Pages magazine.
That quote he called into the.
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Sheriff's Department in
Ellsworth and said I don't know
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what I'm seeing, but I've never
seen anything move so fast in
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my.
Life, he was so.
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Frightened that he drove into a
ditch.
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Also around 11:30.
On the same night, James Kay and
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his family described a similar
craft that they.
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Spotted about. 15 miles South
of.
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Wheeler's.
Event that also seemed to be
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illuminating the ground.
James's. 3 year old daughter.
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And family dog appeared.
Terrified to authorities upon
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arrival, the ordeal was.
Too much for the family to stay
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on the.
Property, so they moved away to
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live with a relative shortly
after.
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The police station and Pierce
County.
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Sheriff's Office would also
receive another call Which?
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Came in from a local woman by
the name of Nancy Theus.
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As well as a.
Call from the Kohler family
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around midnight of the same.
Day describing.
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An eerily similar craft a few
miles away now the Kohler family
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event was mentioned in the.
First episode, so if you are
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curious as to what that is.
Go on back to that one and check
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it out.
Theus made two.
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Calls to the police.
Department that night.
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The first was to.
Report a Quote UN Quote Glowing
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UFOA second call was made to
report that the glowing craft
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she was watching was now
accompanied by.
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Three similar objects.
This.
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Edition was verified shortly
after by at least two Sheriff's
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Department.
Deputies that were nearby by the
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time that the.
Deputies arrived the talk with
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Theus.
It was almost one.
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AM there are three separate?
Accounts describing the same
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thing.
By a police officer.
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At least 2 deputies.
An entire family.
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And another woman.
But it didn't.
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Stop there, reports were.
Also being filed describing the
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same from the nearby areas of
Maiden Rock and Ellsworth, and
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as Voss mentions, the National.
Weather Service.
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Of the nearby Twin Cities of
Minneapolis and Saint Paul were
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unable to offer any.
Clues as to what could have.
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Accounted for these sightings, I
personally think it was safe to
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say that there was definitely
something in the sky in and
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around Elmwood that night.
Wheeler's second encounter.
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April 22nd, 1976 at 11:00 PM.
Officer George Wheeler would.
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Witness his second unidentified
flying object.
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This time it came as an.
Orange glow, which looked as if
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it was a fire that was described
as.
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Coming from the area of.
Kramers Quarry on Tuttle.
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Hill in the book Wisconsin
Legends and.
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Lore by T Krulos As he
approached, he watched as a
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silvery colored craft hovered
about 100.
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Feet over the nearby.
Alfalfa fields which?
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Stood only about 500 feet from
where he.
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Was quote my God.
It's.
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One of those UFOs.
Again.
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Wheeler shouted over.
To radio.
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To dispatch.
This thing was.
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Big Officer Wheeler describes
the dispatcher, GAIL.
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Miley Helmer.
Who was also the police chief's
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wife?
At the time as being quote.
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About two. 100 and. 50 feet wide
and bigger than A2 Story House
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and this.
Time.
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He was able to watch a bit.
Longer.
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And better describe details.
Such as an object.
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That looked like.
A quote UN quote.
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Paddle wheel like apparatus
inside, which would later be
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thought of as a possible turbine
of sorts.
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An orange.
Light that was too bright to
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look directly at on top of the
craft, a large black hose like
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structure.
Hanging from the bottom that he
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could not see the end of from
his point of.
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View 6 bright blue lights or
windows a.
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Silvery or metallic skin with a
large Dome on top, emitting that
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intense orange glow that was
previously mentioned in a few.
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Sources such as the.
April 29th, 1976 edition of.
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The Argus.
That, I found had quoted Wheeler
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as saying quote.
I could see shadows.
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As if something were moving
inside of it, Dispatcher GAIL
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Helmer attempted.
To reply to Officer Wheeler's
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report.
But was unable to get him to
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answer.
As a backup option.
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Helmer contacted Paul
Fredrickson, an administrator
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from the local nursing home,
who.
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Also lived very close to the
quarry on Tuttle Hill.
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To ask him to check and see if
he could see anything about what
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was happening at the quarry.
Side note, Paul.
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Fredrickson was a part of two
other encounters.
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Mentioned in the.
Previous episode, Paul
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Fredrickson tells his.
Story in the May 14th, 1976
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edition of an unknown newspaper.
By reporter and writer.
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Tom Lawn quote I got up and
looked out the window and saw
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this flaming orange object in
the sky.
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Author Howard Bloom quotes.
Fredrickson describing the
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moment in his 1990.
Book out there quote.
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I saw this flaming orange object
in the sky.
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It resembled a bright.
Orange Half Moon I watched it
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for a full 10 seconds and went
back to the phone by the.
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Time I returned.
To the window with my wife.
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The object was gone the whole
time this is happening.
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Officer Wheeler's wife, Doris.
Is listening to the exchanges
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and failed contact attempts to
her husband on the.
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Police scanner.
So she heads towards Tuttle Hill
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herself.
To check on George.
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Before she gets there, a farmer.
By the name of David.
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Moots, who is?
Driving their family's
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babysitter home when he sees.
Officer Wheeler's cruiser.
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Parked in the middle of County
Road Pee.
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With a driver side door open, as
he approached, he found Officer
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Wheeler.
Unconscious, slumped.
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Pale in the driver.
'S seat and difficult to bring
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back to consciousness once able
to converse with moots officer
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Wheeler claimed that he and his.
Cruiser were struck.
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In which moots questioned if.
The officer was.
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Hit by another car in a hit and
run.
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But Wheeler?
Agitatedly denied and stated
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that it was instead a.
Blue ray of light.
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That emanated from a UFO at this
point.
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Both his wife Doris.
And the.
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Officer, that Wheeler was.
Covering for that night, police
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Chief Gene Helmer.
Approached after hearing
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everything over the police
scanners.
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Doris and Gene.
Brought George to.
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The home of Doctor Frank
Springer to be evaluated and was
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given medication for his
excitement and what I could only
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believe was anxiety and.
Stress before heading.
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Home for the night, doctor.
Springer told author Howard.
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Bloom that he had been the.
Wheeler's doctor.
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For many years and never knew.
George to.
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Act in such a.
Way quote.
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He was deeply disturbed.
And highly nervous, once home
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police Chief Helmer.
Stopped by to interview Wheeler,
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which turned.
Into a nearly 90 minute
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conversation, but that wouldn't
be the end of their night as.
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George was.
Unable to get any sleep and was
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extremely stressed about what he
had endured.
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This LED Doris.
To call Doctor Springer again,
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who gave his recommendation to
get him to a hospital.
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It was roughly 1:30 AM when the
ambulance showed up to take.
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Officer George.
Wheeler to the Memorial Hospital
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in the nearby town of Menominee.
Which just happens.
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To be the town that I call home
now.
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He would end up staying three
days so that they could monitor
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his heart and overwhelming fear
of being alone.
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But shortly after being
released, he would be.
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Hospitalized again.
By Doctor Springer's.
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Recommendation at the then
teaching.
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Hospital in the nearby city of
Eau Claire for severe headaches.
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And horrible nightmares, as well
as some pain in his arms and
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legs, this time staying for
another 11 days.
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But would leave the.
Hospital unhappy as the doctors
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were unable to determine
anything wrong with him even
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though he heavily.
Believed that he was suffering.
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From radiation poisoning, this
encounter would no longer leave
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him wanting another experience
with an unknown flying object in
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the sky.
As he was severely worried
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about.
Radiation and was quoted as
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saying quote.
I don't know.
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What I saw but.
All I know is that I don't.
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Want that experienced repeated.
Ever again in an undated.
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Article of the Eau Clear Leader.
Telegraph.
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Then police Chief Gene Helmer.
Stated that he has.
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Seen Wheeler in quote all kinds
of conditions.
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Related to police work.
And have never seen him shaken
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like he was that night after the
event the police.
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Cruiser would no longer start.
Even though new spark plugs and
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points were.
Installed a week prior.
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To the incident, but as they
would soon find out, not only
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would it need practically an
entire new ignition system.
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But all the spark plugs were
cracked or broken.
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The Saint.
Paul Pioneer Press.
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Posted an article on April 10th,
1987 which interviewed the
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unnamed mechanic who.
Worked on the car after the
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event.
Well, it was burnt out.
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I mean not.
Just burnt out.
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It was melted together.
In a big lump, I.
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Wish I would have kept it.
The cruiser ended up needing the
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newly installed plugs and
points.
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Replaced before it saw its
return to service with the
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department.
Other than Officer Wheeler.
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And Paul Fredrickson.
There were a few others that
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reported.
Seeing a strange orange light in
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the sky around the same time, as
well as many who reported
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television interference and
their dogs acting strange around
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11:00 PM that night.
One such person was the owner.
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Of the quarry who lived close
by, Mr. O, although Mr. O didn't
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see anything in the sky or even
notice anything in relation to
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the events involving Officer
Wheeler.
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He did report that his TV
stopped working just after 11.
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PM But the most intriguing
report came from a Mrs. Miles.
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Borgland, who was interrupted
while.
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Watching TV by her cuckoo clock
and television shutting off
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around 11:00 PM as Voss
mentioned, she was fiddling with
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the controls trying to get it to
work again when the room was
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suddenly engulfed in an orange
light coming from outside.
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She went to the window and
witnessed a.
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Large quote UN quote Bright.
Orange moon shaped.
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Object hovering over Tuttle Hill
for what she describes.
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As a few minutes.
Before it flew off.
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And her clock and TV began to.
Work again February. 19th 1977
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would be the date.
That officer Wheeler passed
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away.
From a heart attack 10 months
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after his second encounter with
a UFO near the.
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Quarry.
On County Road P you can listen
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to.
Officer Wheeler's.
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Accounts in his own voice on a.
Record that was produced.
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By Columbia Records in New York
in 1975.
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Unfortunately, I have yet to
find the name of the record.
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It is not proven, but many claim
that.
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Officer Wheeler.
Ultimately died from
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complications sustained from his
second experience on Tuttle.
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Hill before he passed away.
He did successfully recover from
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another heart attack.
After having a lifetime.
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Without cardiovascular issues
now I do have one call of order
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there travelers.
If you happen to know the name
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of that record.
Please.
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Pass it along.
I do want to.
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Get that, because I really would
love to hear George's story.
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From his own voice, it would be
absolutely phenomenal and I
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would.
Cherish that with every.
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Being of my heart, trust me,
that would be something that I
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would.
I would lock that away.
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That would.
Be something that I would find.
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Absolutely precious, but what
did?
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You guys think?
Of the Forster and Wheeler
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encounters, they're pretty
awesome, aren't they?
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And the simple fact?
That.
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Every one of these encounters
had other people who witnessed
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them is just simply amazing.
These three encounters are
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incredible.
Absolutely mind blowing.
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Now, Wheeler was an old pilot in
the Army and also spent a very
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long time in the New York.
State Highway Patrol so due.
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To his time as an Army pilot, he
would have known a thing or.
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Two about what?
Is in the sky now.
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Another thing that I did not
mention is.
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That Doris His.
Wife did many interviews after
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her husband's death and she
explained very.
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Vividly, that officer George
Wheeler, before he saw the first
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UFO, thought that UFOs were not
real.
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He was an avid denier of the UFO
phenomenon.
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Hated it.
Absolutely despised it.
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He believed that people who
believed in such things were
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crazy, but he changed his mind
potentially.
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At the cost of his life.
So that's it travelers.
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That's it for the 2nd.
Installment in the Elmwood.
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Series please.
Let me know what you think next
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week we.
Wrap this up with.
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Some just absolutely incredible
details about Elmwood, about a
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Mr. Tom Weber who almost got a
$50 million UFO landing pad to
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be built in Elmwood.
About all.
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Of the recognition that the
little town in West Wisconsin
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gained from these encounters and
Tom Weber and then we're.
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Going to wrap it all up with a
little.
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Bit of information about the
festival known.
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As UFO days which yours truly as
well as.
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Jake and Jeff, my Co host here
in the Infinite.
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Rabbit hole will be.
At Live for all of you to come
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and see.
Our very first public.
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Outing and I am incredibly.
Excited so please travelers, if
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you happen to.
Be in Elmwood or around Elmwood
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during the last full weekend of.
July this year, stop on by the.
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Infinite rabbit hole booth and
if you can tell me.
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What the title is?
Of episode 100 of The Infinite
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Rabbit.
Hole, I'll get you some
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stickers.
All the adults in your group
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will get a sticker, and all the
kids in your group will get some
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cool temporary tattoos of the
infinite rabbit Hole logo.
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So come see us, travelers.
We're looking forward to it.
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And until next time, I'll see.
You right back here.
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In this path of the infinite.
Rabbit hole.
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Bye.
I would like to thank you.
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I'm your host, Jeremy, and today
we're going to dive into Part 2.
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Of our coverage of UFOs over.
Elmwood And on this installment,
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we'll peel.
Back the layers of the.
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Forester and Wheeler encounters.
Now these. 3 encounters are
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huge.
To the story of what?
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Happened in Elmwood.
And why this little?
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Small town in western Wisconsin
really has a case for being one
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of the absolute strangest places
on the face of this planet.
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I'm not going to go ahead and.
Soak up all your time today,
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travelers.
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And jump right in.
Now this is going to be the.
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Shortest episode of this series,
but it will hit the.
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Hardest, but hang tight and
enjoy.
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The Forrester Encounter March.
2nd 1975 An 8 month pregnant
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woman by the name of.
Carol Forrester and her three
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children, ages 4. 5:00 and 8:00
were on their way home from a
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family lunch at Carol.
'S mother's house.
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In the town of Arkansas,
Wisconsin, about 17 miles away,
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everything seemed to be going
just fine until they.
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Spotted what they thought was a
very bright.
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Star in the sky on County Road
P, but as they continued.
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Their drive.
They realized that whatever it
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was, it was much closer.
And seemed to be following them
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from a distance every.
Turn Carol made the star seemed
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to turn.
With them and.
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Quickly closed the gap.
Between itself and the.
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Forester, Chevy with the
realization.
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That this was no. *.
She contemplated stopping at the
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closest farm to have someone
else witness it, but ultimately
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decided against it and.
Carried on towards her house,
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Carol Forrester tells of her
experience.
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In the April 1989 edition of an
unknown magazine.
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Article by Steve Kaplan.
Quote when I got.
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About 3 miles.
From our farm.
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It was directly above us and it
was.
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Lower than any star I had ever
seen in the sky, and then a
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little past Mimi.
Weber's house.
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It was suddenly one or two car
lengths ahead of me.
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The ship was so bright it was
like.
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Looking at a light bulb, it was
blinking on and off.
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It was shaped like two cereal
bowls tipped together, and there
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was a row of windows across the
center.
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This understandably upset not
only.
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Her, but also all three of the
children.
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In the car.
Her oldest, Mary who?
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Was in the front passenger seat
and who was the first to notice
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the anomaly, as well as the
younger two in the back in
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response, Carol.
Reversed away from whatever it
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was while.
Mary was yelling, Mom, it's
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coming at us.
Carol backed up all.
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The way until.
She was able to.
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Reverse into the driveway of
Mimi and Roger.
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Webber, according to.
The May 24th, 1989 edition of
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City Pages magazine.
Carol and her children exited
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the car and.
Approached the Weber house where
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they were greeted by Roger.
Mimi and their two teenagers.
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John and Laurie.
A side note.
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Author Howard Bloom describes
this.
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Portion of the event much?
More thoroughly of the.
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Portion of when Carol and her
children were.
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Driving under this craft for a
bit.
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He mentions that the orange.
Light that this craft.
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Was emitting engulfed the.
Car and Carol was.
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Frightened, as it seemed to
make.
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Her daughter, Mary.
Glow orange.
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He also mentions that Mary at
one point.
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Opened the passenger side.
Door and was ready to jump out.
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Before Carol grabbed her and as
a consequence drove their car
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off the road.
And onto Apache ice and snow.
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Fortunately nobody was harmed,
but I wanted to add.
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This little bit as.
Bloom's book.
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Out there was the only.
Source that I found that
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mentions the.
Forester encounter in this.
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Way now from the Weber's home
actually owned.
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By Roger's mother, Miss Karl
Weber at the.
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Time they all could see the
object moving just above the
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tree line, which obviously.
Convinced Roger that this was a
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real situation.
According to Noah Voss in his
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book UFO Wisconsin.
Carol and Roger originally
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discussed the possibility that
it was a satellite.
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Another side note, another.
Detail that I.
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Only found in author Howard
Blum's book Out There was the
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name of the owner of the.
House that Carol approached
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being Jack Bayer rather.
Than the Weber.
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'S where Blum described Roger
as.
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Being Bayer's son.
Of course.
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There is a chance that they are
one in the same, but I was
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unable to find any information
to clarify this inconsistency.
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My honest opinion here is that
Blum didn't have the.
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Approval to use the.
Weber's actual name.
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So in order to keep them
anonymous, they use the name
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Jack.
Bayer, but this could also be
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false.
Just wanted to throw it out
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there.
I did have a.
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Ton of sources including
newspaper articles, magazine
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articles.
A recording of a very, very
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popular show.
From 1988 which?
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We'll discuss a little bit in
part three.
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That all said that this was
Roger Webber.
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Not Jack Bayer.
Now to get back on track.
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Happy that someone else saw the
strange thing in the.
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Sky Carol began to try the
drive.
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Home again.
With her three children.
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This is when things began to
take a turn to the.
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Very strange.
The craft reapproached and
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lowered all the way down to the
road just in front of her.
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So close, in fact.
That Carol had to stop her car.
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And once again reverse.
Back to the Weber's house,
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according to Voss quote, Roger
responded.
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To the noise of.
Carol's Horn.
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Blaring and rushed.
Out of the house, reportedly to
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see the.
Object lifting up.
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Past the treetops, Roger decided
it was.
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Best if he escorted the family
to their home.
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As the craft followed the two
cars all the way to Carol's
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house.
At a distance of only a few.
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Car lengths behind before it
settled above the pasture of the
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Forester farmhouse.
According to City Pages
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magazine, When Bud.
Forster, Carol's husband.
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Came home from a snowmobiling
excursion with.
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Carol's father, Bill.
He was able to see the strange
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craft through their dining.
Room window.
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Before it shot.
Off into the distance.
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Carol, Bud, Roger.
Mimi and all of their children
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would.
Later describe the craft.
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As glowing orange.
Or having numerous orange lights
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with a.
Dome on the very top and had.
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Four legs or supports.
Underneath it.
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Most reports that I found.
Described the craft as being.
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Roughly the size of a car, but
there was a few that quoted.
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Carol as saying it was 10 or
even 20 times.
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Bigger than her 68 Chevy, but
just to be clear.
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Most of them.
Said that it was roughly the
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size of a car, Carol told
investigator Jack Bostrack, 2.
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Weeks after the incident that
her two younger children.
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Refused to sleep.
Alone and were giving her and
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her husband issues around
bedtime every night when that
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used to never be the problem.
Carol stated to author Howard.
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Bloom that they would suffer
horrible nightmares that kept
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them awake most nights than not.
They would eventually find a
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routine of sleeping in the
living room together.
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With all of the.
Lights on.
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For nearly three years as well
as also.
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Refusing to use the outhouse at
night.
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As they were petrified that the
craft would.
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Come back and take them away.
Officer George Wheeler's.
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Encounters Encounter one Sunday,
April 6th, 1975 at approximately
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11:30, Researcher Bill Johnson
quotes.
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Officer George Wheeler as.
Describing the object.
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As quote.
A large ball of flame.
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He noticed it as he was
beginning to take a left onto
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County Road PP when he watched.
As it took a path.
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Straight in front of him from
the direction of Kramer's Hill.
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This of course caused.
Him to give.
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Chase to it quote my first
thoughts was.
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That it was a. 747 and it was on
fire.
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And was going to crash.
As the craft.
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Began to slow down.
Officer Wheeler pulled over.
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Into a ditch and watched.
As it flew overhead.
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More than one source mentions
Wheeler describing having to
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jump.
Out of the cruiser as he thought
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that it.
Was going to hit him directly
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while others mention him
watching it from the driver.
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'S seat either account.
You want to follow, Wheeler
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reported.
Watching it as it.
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Flew directly over.
Him at about 1500 feet before
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coming to a still.
Hover over a flat field and
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pasture.
It was now.
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Obvious that this was.
Not.
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A 747 Officer Wheeler would
later.
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Go on to describe it as being
cigar.
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Shaped with rounded sides.
Quote like two cereal bowls put.
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End to end while illuminating
the ground, sky, and.
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Countryside around it as well as
reporting quote.
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I'd say it was the size of a
football field shortly after
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stopping the craft.
Turned, lurched and took.
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Off at what Wheeler describes to
author Howard.
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Bloom as in quote UN quote
instantaneous speed while
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performing 90°.
Turns.
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This event affected Officer
Wheeler so much that he began
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carrying field glasses and two
types of cameras, one of which.
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Was specifically.
For night time photography in
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which he kept in his cruiser.
At all times he would also place
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a call.
To the previously mentioned
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nearby UFO researcher by the
name of Bill Johnson of
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Menominee attempting to get
answers.
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As to what it was.
His specific questions came from
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concern for the safety of the
town of Elmwood and its people.
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George's wife, Doris.
Mentioned in an interview in
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1989 with City Pages magazine.
That quote he called into the.
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Sheriff's Department in
Ellsworth and said I don't know
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what I'm seeing, but I've never
seen anything move so fast in
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my.
Life, he was so.
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Frightened that he drove into a
ditch.
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Also around 11:30.
On the same night, James Kay and
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his family described a similar
craft that they.
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Spotted about. 15 miles South
of.
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Wheeler's.
Event that also seemed to be
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illuminating the ground.
James's. 3 year old daughter.
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And family dog appeared.
Terrified to authorities upon
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arrival, the ordeal was.
Too much for the family to stay
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on the.
Property, so they moved away to
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live with a relative shortly
after.
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The police station and Pierce
County.
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Sheriff's Office would also
receive another call Which?
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Came in from a local woman by
the name of Nancy Theus.
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As well as a.
Call from the Kohler family
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around midnight of the same.
Day describing.
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An eerily similar craft a few
miles away now the Kohler family
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event was mentioned in the.
First episode, so if you are
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curious as to what that is.
Go on back to that one and check
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it out.
Theus made two.
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Calls to the police.
Department that night.
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The first was to.
Report a Quote UN Quote Glowing
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UFOA second call was made to
report that the glowing craft
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she was watching was now
accompanied by.
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Three similar objects.
This.
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Edition was verified shortly
after by at least two Sheriff's
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Department.
Deputies that were nearby by the
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time that the.
Deputies arrived the talk with
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Theus.
It was almost one.
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AM there are three separate?
Accounts describing the same
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thing.
By a police officer.
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At least 2 deputies.
An entire family.
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And another woman.
But it didn't.
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Stop there, reports were.
Also being filed describing the
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same from the nearby areas of
Maiden Rock and Ellsworth, and
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as Voss mentions, the National.
Weather Service.
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Of the nearby Twin Cities of
Minneapolis and Saint Paul were
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unable to offer any.
Clues as to what could have.
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Accounted for these sightings, I
personally think it was safe to
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say that there was definitely
something in the sky in and
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around Elmwood that night.
Wheeler's second encounter.
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April 22nd, 1976 at 11:00 PM.
Officer George Wheeler would.
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Witness his second unidentified
flying object.
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This time it came as an.
Orange glow, which looked as if
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it was a fire that was described
as.
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Coming from the area of.
Kramers Quarry on Tuttle.
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Hill in the book Wisconsin
Legends and.
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Lore by T Krulos As he
approached, he watched as a
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silvery colored craft hovered
about 100.
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Feet over the nearby.
Alfalfa fields which?
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Stood only about 500 feet from
where he.
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Was quote my God.
It's.
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One of those UFOs.
Again.
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Wheeler shouted over.
To radio.
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To dispatch.
This thing was.
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Big Officer Wheeler describes
the dispatcher, GAIL.
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Miley Helmer.
Who was also the police chief's
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wife?
At the time as being quote.
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About two. 100 and. 50 feet wide
and bigger than A2 Story House
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and this.
Time.
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He was able to watch a bit.
Longer.
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And better describe details.
Such as an object.
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That looked like.
A quote UN quote.
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Paddle wheel like apparatus
inside, which would later be
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thought of as a possible turbine
of sorts.
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An orange.
Light that was too bright to
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look directly at on top of the
craft, a large black hose like
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structure.
Hanging from the bottom that he
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could not see the end of from
his point of.
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View 6 bright blue lights or
windows a.
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Silvery or metallic skin with a
large Dome on top, emitting that
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intense orange glow that was
previously mentioned in a few.
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Sources such as the.
April 29th, 1976 edition of.
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The Argus.
That, I found had quoted Wheeler
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as saying quote.
I could see shadows.
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As if something were moving
inside of it, Dispatcher GAIL
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Helmer attempted.
To reply to Officer Wheeler's
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report.
But was unable to get him to
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answer.
As a backup option.
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Helmer contacted Paul
Fredrickson, an administrator
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from the local nursing home,
who.
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Also lived very close to the
quarry on Tuttle Hill.
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To ask him to check and see if
he could see anything about what
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was happening at the quarry.
Side note, Paul.
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Fredrickson was a part of two
other encounters.
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Mentioned in the.
Previous episode, Paul
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Fredrickson tells his.
Story in the May 14th, 1976
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edition of an unknown newspaper.
By reporter and writer.
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Tom Lawn quote I got up and
looked out the window and saw
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this flaming orange object in
the sky.
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Author Howard Bloom quotes.
Fredrickson describing the
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moment in his 1990.
Book out there quote.
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I saw this flaming orange object
in the sky.
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It resembled a bright.
Orange Half Moon I watched it
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for a full 10 seconds and went
back to the phone by the.
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Time I returned.
To the window with my wife.
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The object was gone the whole
time this is happening.
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Officer Wheeler's wife, Doris.
Is listening to the exchanges
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and failed contact attempts to
her husband on the.
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Police scanner.
So she heads towards Tuttle Hill
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herself.
To check on George.
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Before she gets there, a farmer.
By the name of David.
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Moots, who is?
Driving their family's
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babysitter home when he sees.
Officer Wheeler's cruiser.
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Parked in the middle of County
Road Pee.
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With a driver side door open, as
he approached, he found Officer
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Wheeler.
Unconscious, slumped.
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Pale in the driver.
'S seat and difficult to bring
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back to consciousness once able
to converse with moots officer
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Wheeler claimed that he and his.
Cruiser were struck.
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In which moots questioned if.
The officer was.
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Hit by another car in a hit and
run.
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But Wheeler?
Agitatedly denied and stated
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that it was instead a.
Blue ray of light.
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That emanated from a UFO at this
point.
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Both his wife Doris.
And the.
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Officer, that Wheeler was.
Covering for that night, police
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Chief Gene Helmer.
Approached after hearing
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everything over the police
scanners.
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Doris and Gene.
Brought George to.
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The home of Doctor Frank
Springer to be evaluated and was
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given medication for his
excitement and what I could only
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believe was anxiety and.
Stress before heading.
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Home for the night, doctor.
Springer told author Howard.
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Bloom that he had been the.
Wheeler's doctor.
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For many years and never knew.
George to.
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Act in such a.
Way quote.
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He was deeply disturbed.
And highly nervous, once home
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police Chief Helmer.
Stopped by to interview Wheeler,
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which turned.
Into a nearly 90 minute
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conversation, but that wouldn't
be the end of their night as.
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George was.
Unable to get any sleep and was
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extremely stressed about what he
had endured.
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This LED Doris.
To call Doctor Springer again,
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who gave his recommendation to
get him to a hospital.
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It was roughly 1:30 AM when the
ambulance showed up to take.
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Officer George.
Wheeler to the Memorial Hospital
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in the nearby town of Menominee.
Which just happens.
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To be the town that I call home
now.
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He would end up staying three
days so that they could monitor
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his heart and overwhelming fear
of being alone.
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But shortly after being
released, he would be.
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Hospitalized again.
By Doctor Springer's.
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Recommendation at the then
teaching.
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Hospital in the nearby city of
Eau Claire for severe headaches.
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And horrible nightmares, as well
as some pain in his arms and
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legs, this time staying for
another 11 days.
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But would leave the.
Hospital unhappy as the doctors
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were unable to determine
anything wrong with him even
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though he heavily.
Believed that he was suffering.
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From radiation poisoning, this
encounter would no longer leave
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him wanting another experience
with an unknown flying object in
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the sky.
As he was severely worried
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about.
Radiation and was quoted as
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saying quote.
I don't know.
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What I saw but.
All I know is that I don't.
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Want that experienced repeated.
Ever again in an undated.
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Article of the Eau Clear Leader.
Telegraph.
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Then police Chief Gene Helmer.
Stated that he has.
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Seen Wheeler in quote all kinds
of conditions.
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Related to police work.
And have never seen him shaken
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like he was that night after the
event the police.
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Cruiser would no longer start.
Even though new spark plugs and
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points were.
Installed a week prior.
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To the incident, but as they
would soon find out, not only
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would it need practically an
entire new ignition system.
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But all the spark plugs were
cracked or broken.
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The Saint.
Paul Pioneer Press.
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Posted an article on April 10th,
1987 which interviewed the
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unnamed mechanic who.
Worked on the car after the
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event.
Well, it was burnt out.
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I mean not.
Just burnt out.
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It was melted together.
In a big lump, I.
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Wish I would have kept it.
The cruiser ended up needing the
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newly installed plugs and
points.
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Replaced before it saw its
return to service with the
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department.
Other than Officer Wheeler.
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And Paul Fredrickson.
There were a few others that
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reported.
Seeing a strange orange light in
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the sky around the same time, as
well as many who reported
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television interference and
their dogs acting strange around
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11:00 PM that night.
One such person was the owner.
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Of the quarry who lived close
by, Mr. O, although Mr. O didn't
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see anything in the sky or even
notice anything in relation to
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the events involving Officer
Wheeler.
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He did report that his TV
stopped working just after 11.
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PM But the most intriguing
report came from a Mrs. Miles.
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Borgland, who was interrupted
while.
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Watching TV by her cuckoo clock
and television shutting off
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around 11:00 PM as Voss
mentioned, she was fiddling with
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the controls trying to get it to
work again when the room was
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suddenly engulfed in an orange
light coming from outside.
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She went to the window and
witnessed a.
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Large quote UN quote Bright.
Orange moon shaped.
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Object hovering over Tuttle Hill
for what she describes.
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As a few minutes.
Before it flew off.
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And her clock and TV began to.
Work again February. 19th 1977
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would be the date.
That officer Wheeler passed
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away.
From a heart attack 10 months
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after his second encounter with
a UFO near the.
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Quarry.
On County Road P you can listen
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to.
Officer Wheeler's.
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Accounts in his own voice on a.
Record that was produced.
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By Columbia Records in New York
in 1975.
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Unfortunately, I have yet to
find the name of the record.
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It is not proven, but many claim
that.
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Officer Wheeler.
Ultimately died from
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complications sustained from his
second experience on Tuttle.
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Hill before he passed away.
He did successfully recover from
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another heart attack.
After having a lifetime.
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Without cardiovascular issues
now I do have one call of order
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there travelers.
If you happen to know the name
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of that record.
Please.
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Pass it along.
I do want to.
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Get that, because I really would
love to hear George's story.
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From his own voice, it would be
absolutely phenomenal and I
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would.
Cherish that with every.
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Being of my heart, trust me,
that would be something that I
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would.
I would lock that away.
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That would.
Be something that I would find.
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Absolutely precious, but what
did?
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You guys think?
Of the Forster and Wheeler
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encounters, they're pretty
awesome, aren't they?
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And the simple fact?
That.
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Every one of these encounters
had other people who witnessed
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them is just simply amazing.
These three encounters are
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incredible.
Absolutely mind blowing.
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Now, Wheeler was an old pilot in
the Army and also spent a very
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long time in the New York.
State Highway Patrol so due.
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To his time as an Army pilot, he
would have known a thing or.
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Two about what?
Is in the sky now.
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Another thing that I did not
mention is.
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That Doris His.
Wife did many interviews after
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her husband's death and she
explained very.
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Vividly, that officer George
Wheeler, before he saw the first
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UFO, thought that UFOs were not
real.
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He was an avid denier of the UFO
phenomenon.
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Hated it.
Absolutely despised it.
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He believed that people who
believed in such things were
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crazy, but he changed his mind
potentially.
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At the cost of his life.
So that's it travelers.
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That's it for the 2nd.
Installment in the Elmwood.
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Series please.
Let me know what you think next
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week we.
Wrap this up with.
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Some just absolutely incredible
details about Elmwood, about a
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Mr. Tom Weber who almost got a
$50 million UFO landing pad to
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be built in Elmwood.
About all.
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Of the recognition that the
little town in West Wisconsin
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gained from these encounters and
Tom Weber and then we're.
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Going to wrap it all up with a
little.
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Bit of information about the
festival known.
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As UFO days which yours truly as
well as.
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Jake and Jeff, my Co host here
in the Infinite.
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Rabbit hole will be.
At Live for all of you to come
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and see.
Our very first public.
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Outing and I am incredibly.
Excited so please travelers, if
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you happen to.
Be in Elmwood or around Elmwood
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during the last full weekend of.
July this year, stop on by the.
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Infinite rabbit hole booth and
if you can tell me.
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What the title is?
Of episode 100 of The Infinite
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Rabbit.
Hole, I'll get you some
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stickers.
All the adults in your group
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will get a sticker, and all the
kids in your group will get some
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cool temporary tattoos of the
infinite rabbit Hole logo.
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So come see us, travelers.
We're looking forward to it.
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And until next time, I'll see.
You right back here.
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In this path of the infinite.
Rabbit hole.
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Bye.
I would like to thank you.
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Once again for tuning into the
Infinite.
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Rabbit Hole podcast.
Please make sure to give us a
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follow in one of those beautiful
5 star.
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Ratings on your.
Podcast player of choice if you
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would like to join the
conversation and stay up.
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To date on.
All things infinite rabbit hole.
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Head on.
Over to Facebook and search for
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the Infinite Rabbit Hole
Facebook group.
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You'll know it's us when you see
the logo.
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If you would like to help
contribute to the 'cause there
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are a few ways to do so.
First, head on over to anchor
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dot FM forward slash Infinite
Rabbit Hole and click on the
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subscribe button where for $5.00
a month you'll get access to all
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our old episodes that will never
see the free spotlight ever
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again.
It's horrible stuff, but if
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you're into.
That kind of thing.
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And go check that.
Second head on.
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Over to infiniterabbithole.com
and click on the IRH Merch Shop
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tab and grab yourself a sweet
T-shirt, sticker, or whatever
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else you see.
That you wouldn't mind on until
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next time.
Travellers, I'm Jeremy and I'll
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see you at the next fork in the
path of the.
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Infinite rabbit hole this.
Line represents the time as of
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1985 Future Past right at this
point in time, somewhere in the
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past, the timeline tuned into
this gadget, creating an
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alternate 1985 alternate tune.
Near Einstein.
