175. Elmwood: Thoughts from the Hosts

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Welcome back to The Infinite
Rabbit Hole.

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I'm your host, Jeremy.
Today we're going to dive into

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Elmwood, everybody.
We're going to do it the old

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way.
We're going to talk a little bit

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about the documentary that you
guys just heard for the last

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three weeks of your lives.
Thank you, by the way.

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I hope you guys enjoyed it and
we're going to discuss our our

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own personal thoughts about it
one week before we head on over

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to UFO Days.
We're actually recording this

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like seven day or about a week
before the end of June.

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So we're we're really early on
this end, but by the time you

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guys hear this, we'll already be
hot in pursuit of UFO Days.

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It'll be shoot 3 days away when
you guys first hear this.

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Anyways, let's go ahead and
bring in your host for the

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night, Jacob.
What's up dude?

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Nice hat dude.
Thanks man, it's someone's wife

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made these.
Yeah, well, she didn't make

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them.
She bought them.

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Don't give her that much.
Greater.

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OK, yes.
Your wife bought these?

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Yeah, I'm digging it.
She opened up our bank account

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and bought them.
Well.

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You might not like them, but I
do.

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Yeah.
No, nothing.

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Nothing much is going on.
I mean, well, me and my wife

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finished building our chicken
coop and kicked all the birds

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outside, so that was cool.
And then we went trout fishing

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today, so that was nice.
Nice man, I finished my garden.

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Hey, there you go.
Yeah, I did the thing.

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Yeah.
Now if we can get Jeff over

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here, we could combine our
resources and get have a pig

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farm or something.
Yeah, yeah, Contribute, Sir,

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speaking to Jeff.
What's up dude?

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Sounds good.
What's up, bro?

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Yeah, I went fishing today and
caught some trout as well.

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Actually, it was pretty sick.
That's it.

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Spotted sea trout kind.
Yeah, man.

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Spotted yours have teeth.
They do have teeth.

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They will bite you.
They are little sneaky ones.

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Caught a couple of those.
All right, Elmwood, so you guys,

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I'm pretty sure you guys
listened to the entire series

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today.
Binge listened at as tradition.

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No, no, actually I listened to
one of them today.

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I listened to the other one
100,000 times already.

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And to be honest with you, the
third episode I don't I nothing

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is stuck from the third episode
'cause it's just been.

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There's a lot of information.
There's a lot of shit going on

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today.
Do you want to start with your

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project there, man?
Do you want to let everybody

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know what what you're working
on?

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Yeah, I'm trying to make these.
Well, hopefully by the time they

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start listening to them, they'll
be able to watch them as well.

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And I don't just mean like pull
it up on YouTube and listen to

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it, but like there's going to be
some video attached to this

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audio series.
So, you know, and hopefully

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they'll, they'll be getting
better as we move forward.

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So Jeff's working on the very
first iteration of a of an

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infinite rabbit hole documentary
in the video format.

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And it's, it's going to be, it's
going to be great.

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You know, I, I sat down with my
wife and my kids and we watched

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it.
And honestly, I think I think

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this is the first time my wife
ever looked at me with pride

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and.
I was like, I believe it was

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like.
I was like, you're you might do

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something with this and like I I
had to look at it and be like,

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well, Jeff did it.
And she's she was like, yeah,

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Jeff might do things.
Well, this is the.

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Thought that I had and I said
this to my girlfriend as well.

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I was like, you know, we had
that conversation the other day

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on the reality Czar's podcast
and then like I started doing

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the video and then I was like,
there's actually something here.

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Like you could make something of
the this series make a decent

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enough of a video and that could
be a stepping stone or platform

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to to get eyes or even to use
that as a pitch to get some, you

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know, something going.
So.

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So we gotta do a little bit of
future reading here, just cause

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the first episode hasn't
released yet at the time that

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we're recording this.
But I'm predicting that

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somebody's going to ask me.
Maybe multiple people will ask

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me what what is Chronicles and I
I vaguely went over it in

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episode one or Elmwood one.
And the gist of Chronicles is

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that Infinite Rabbit Hole will
be bringing continuous coverage

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of a specific subject.
So anything that we do Elmwood

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wise would technically fall
underneath the Chronicle's name.

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Chronicles 1 or whatever we end
up going with UFO is over.

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Elmwood is the running title
that we're using as of right

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now, will be a continual
project.

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It's not something that we're
just gonna end here with these

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four episodes, the three
documentary episodes, and then

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this one conversation piece.
This will be continual.

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So you'll get more content after
the UFO Days Festival, you'll

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get more content as we get
people to come forward and, and

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tell us some more of their,
their stories.

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You'll get more content when
Jake and I get off our lazy

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asses and go over to Elmwood and
whoa, whoa.

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I mean, my, my lazy ass whenever
whenever Jake gets off my lazy

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ass and and we we head on over
to Elmwood and we do a little

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bit of St. work over there like
on the corner with our best

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fishnets on.
Yeah.

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So once.
Once excited for some man on the

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street action that's gonna.
Yeah, I mean, that's how if

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you're gonna find anything about
a small town's UFO story, you're

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gonna find it on the corner.
Yep, you have to.

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And it has to be any form of
abduction.

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They don't specifically say that
it has to be from an alien

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craft.
It could.

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It could be anything.
So go out.

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And start showing my legs, yeah.
How else would you do it?

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I mean, honestly.
I mean, it's that's it.

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That's all right.
Yeah.

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Abductions 101.
So we'll start off with Elmwood

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one, right.
Elmwood one was an episode where

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I kind of went over all the
smaller events.

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This was kind of a precursor to
the real stuff.

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Not saying that these weren't
important at all they but they

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were much smaller, much less
covered.

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When I was doing the research
for this, we were given a binder

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from Amy and the binder was the
the town of Elmwood's collection

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of all the newspaper clippings
and magazine articles and

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posters and Flyers with anything
to do with either UFO Days

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festival or their history of UFO
events.

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And so I, I was lucky enough to
be able to get my own copy of

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that binder, Very, very excited
to have that in my position and

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basically going through a couple
decades worth of information in

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that binder.
These were the events that

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weren't part of the Carol
Forrester or George Wheeler

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topics, right?
These, this was everything else.

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There was a couple big ones in
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Let's there was the one where
the the the son and the father

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pulled over on the side of the
street and got out of their car,

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watched as this craft hovered
directly over them, which was a

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pretty impressive 1.
Then you had the very first one

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in 1956 where I think it was six
or seven different vehicles

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pulled over on the side of the
road on County Road P and

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watched as an orange glowing orb
floated past them about 20 feet

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off the ground.
Big one, a big word, but I think

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or it would probably be the
wrong way to describe that.

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But nonetheless, there was a lot
to unpack here because not only

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was there a handful of of
events, they they spanned

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decades.
Like I said, the first one was

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in 56 and I think we went all
the way up to 88 and

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unfortunately we don't have
anything else in the binder

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past.
I think August of 88 was the

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last entry or the the newest
event.

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So is there just no more
sightings?

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No, from what I, what I
understand from Amy is that it's

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ongoing.
There is one person in that

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town.
Well, I, I, it's not just one

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person, but there's one person
in that town that has a really,

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really good set of stories, but
they are very reluctant to be

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able to talk to anybody.
Apparently they had a a bad

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episode with a news crew who
made everybody look like idiots

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and the the town is very, very
reluctant to come forward and

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tell their story 'cause they
don't want to be made to look

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like fools again.
Well, this is like my, like this

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is what I was thinking that
whole first episode, you know,

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'cause there were so many
sightings and then like, it just

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kind of seems like it stops,
right?

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Or they stop keeping track.
Or they stop.

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Or are they stopping telling
everybody else?

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So I need to make it over to the
library and talk to the the lady

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in the library.
I've been told that she is

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somebody that I need to go talk
to because apparently there are

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other articles that aren't in
the binder.

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Apparently there's either a
second binder or a section of

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the library that's dedicated to
more modern sightings and that

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we need to get our s s over
there and go take a look at

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that.
So that is on the To Do List.

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That's why The Chronicles will
be ongoing, because as we

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discover more and more
information, we'll be sure to

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pass it on.
But yeah, it is ongoing.

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All right, well, we're gonna
have to find some people when

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we're there, I guess.
And.

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Well, that's hopefully we can.
I mean, if we're not showing up

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with a news van and like suit
and tie situation, maybe they'll

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actually talk to us, you know?
That's why I was trying to get

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you that colored shirt or
whatever.

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I don't want to make you look
like class bro.

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The people of Elmwood who are
listening, I don't.

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I don't even wear collared
shirts man, I'm a regular guy.

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We're lucky he's gonna wear a
shirt.

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It's all good, man, we're cool.
This guy spent a whole year of

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his life without shoes.
I did.

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That's a fact.
That is a fact, man.

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Dirty hippies.
One of us, one of.

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US manja, manja, manja in the
very first one, I recognized or

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I realized that there is a
tremendous amount of people that

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have never seen a helicopter at
night.

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Death, that is, yeah.
Yeah, especially even the ones

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that are like, it definitely
wasn't a helicopter.

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You'd be like, OK, well, you saw
red and green lights in a

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Searchlight.
That's a helicopter, you know,

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or, or a small plane that's
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If there was an airport nearby.
I was like, obviously there's

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some people that saw different
things but but an awful lot of

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people had never seen a
helicopter.

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Before Jake, the first thing I
thought about and I'm I'm hoping

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that when Amy does listen to
these these episodes, she's

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gonna remember that conversation
that we had with her or you

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specifically had with her when
we were checking out that

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abandoned house there on a
property that was that

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supposedly was extremely popular
for a lot of a lot of stuff.

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And honestly, Jake and I were
pleasantly surprised to find out

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that there may even be a a big
feats in in in the woods

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surrounding Elmwood as well.
So there may be a little bit

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more other than UFOs to talk
about from this town.

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But Jake, you had a a
conversation with her about a

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silent H60CI don't know if it's
a Sierra, but.

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Yeah.
Yeah, so.

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The one where, and I don't mean
that there's like super secret

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vehicles for the government
flying over the flying over

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Elmwood, but I just mean in
general.

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I mean, you know, seeing them
from far off or, you know, in

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this circumstance, it was the
SEAL who popped Bin Laden was

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talking about in a podcast that
they were on.

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They flew in using some super
stealth Blackhawks that even

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Obama, who was the president at
the time, had never seen before.

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And the pilots who flew them,
they were familiar with H 60s

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and they're familiar with
Blackhawks.

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So they snatched them up and
they were supposed to fly these

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things and the the pilots had
never seen them before either.

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And so they were giving in the
situation room.

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They're giving Obama the debrief
saying we're 99% sure that bin

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Laden is here in this in this
compound because his I want to

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say his son or his nephew is in
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And he's like his last line of
defense where he goes, you know,

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bin Laden goes to.
And that they gave the briefing

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to Obama and then he's like, all
right, is there anything else?

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And they said, yeah, so these
are the vehicles we're going to

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be using.
And the pilots, like I said, and

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Obama had never seen these
vehicles before.

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They were some super duper
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And if you've ever worked with
helicopters, you know how loud

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they are.
You know, I don't know how you

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could, you know, stealth, the
engine noise, the rotor, you

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know, noise, the chopping and
the chirping as it goes through,

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right.
The sound of the blades cut

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through the air and stuff.
And if there's like a riffle in

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the leading edge tape on the
blades, it'll make a chirping

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sound.
It's, it's really obnoxious, but

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but that when they got into the
compound that the people inside

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of it, the terrace's side didn't
even know that they were there

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until they breached the doors.
And so these were like super,

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super stealthy.
And now I don't mean to suggest

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that those are flying over
Elmwood and places around there.

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And like, I think there was one
where it was like a report that

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came from Bay City, which I
actually work in.

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So I I just mean that there's a
lot of people, it seems that and

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I, I guess we're fortunate
being, you know, prior military

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at the very least that we, you
know, worked on helicopters.

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But knowing that, yeah, they
have red and green lights.

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Yeah, they have, you know,
searchlights and all kinds of

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stuff.
And even to the extent that they

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don't have to fly with lights,
they can fly all lights off and

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the pilots can wear nods or NB
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They don't have to have lights
on, but they usually do, right.

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So, but yeah, I was like
listening, obviously there was

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some people that saw something
completely different, right?

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Or seeing a bunch of burn marks
on the ground and stuff like

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that.
I mean, that's completely

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different, obviously.
But then there was a lot of

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people that were like, yeah, and
it definitely wasn't a

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helicopter.
It's like, well, in my opinion,

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this was a helicopter.
You know, you said that a couple

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of times, 'cause it's like, I
now, I don't know if that's

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people lying to jump on the hype
of, you know, the, the string of

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sightings or that's just people
that, like I said, I've never

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seen that before.
And they, you know, at least at

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night and they're just like,
what's this?

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You know, I'll see a helicopter
at night and be like, oh, look

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at ghetto bird.
They're probably looking for

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someone You know I.
Think, I think that the time,

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just like that time period,
there was a lot of things going

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on that not only the the
military cause here's one thing

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I thought about too, right?
We're always looking for like

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where's there is, is there a
military base nearby, right?

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Is there an airport nearby
right.

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But nobody's ever thinking like,
hey, is there like a, a Lockheed

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Martin nearby?
Is there a Raytheon nearby?

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Like doesn't necessarily have to
be like an airstrip or something

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like, and especially like any
time frame 60s through the 80s,

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right?
They were definitely developing

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some like super advanced stuff
in that time frame.

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So it's possible that they have
that they were flying over these

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less populated areas with and
doing random.

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And the test could have been as
simple as, hey, look, we're over

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this random small town.
Like, let's see if we can just

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like track a vehicle, like go
track that vehicle, right?

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And then they'll track the
vehicle for a few minutes and

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they'll be like, all right,
cool.

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Yeah, that worked.
And then they.

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You know what I mean?
So.

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Yeah.
Yeah, that's kind of.

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What I'm doing there was that
one event where the woman

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described it as having one
bright light, 2 red flashing

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lights and it sounded like a
helicopter.

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Sure.
I thought it was definitely

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helicopters, You know what I
mean?

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I'm with that.
But there were some that, you

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know, and you could say there's
the other thing about the sound,

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right?
Like depending on how the wind

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is going, like you'd be
surprised how little you can

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hear something.
And I don't know necessarily

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about helicopter.
I haven't been that close to too

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many helicopters in my life.
But, you know, there's times

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where like a rocket goes off
here at NASA and I can't hear it

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at all.
And then there's other times

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where rocket goes off and like
the whole house shakes.

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I'm like, why is that?
And I think about it and I'm

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like, I wonder if like the wind
and all that has something to do

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with it, 'cause I know the wind
can obscure sound waves, you

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know, so.
Sure.

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So Jake and I, we met in the
Navy in a helicopter squadron,

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specifically the age 60s, age
60s Sierras.

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And one thing that they, I mean,
if if you work in aviation at

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all, you know, navigation
lights, right, there's specific

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colored lights.
That are on there too.

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No, it does.
It does.

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Yeah, everything.
Yeah.

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So just just for pure
educational purposes, right.

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You have the green light on the
starboard side or if you're in

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the, the, the.
Yeah, if if you're at the point

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of the pilot, it's your right
side and then the red light on

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your left side.
And then you have a white tail

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light.
And then oftentimes the way that

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helicopters, or at least the
Sierras were, were that they had

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the, the big spotlight up at the
nose.

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And when I'm listening or I'm
reading through these articles

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and I'm, I'm listening, I'm
trying to picture the

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description, most of the ones
that I'm, that I'm picturing

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that are not the orange ball,
right?

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Because we'll, we'll get into
that a little bit after we talk

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about the helicopter stuff, but
the stuff that wasn't the orange

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ball, There's a really a good
argument for most of these to be

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helicopters.
I, I don't know.

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And like what what Jake was
saying those they can go lights

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out, right?
And then they have the what are

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they infrared, right, The green
lights.

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So you can't see them without NV
GS or infrared goggles or any

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kind of like flare systems.
But basically these things will

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glow green when, when the when
the craft is is going dark.

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And this is another way for you
to be able to tell what the

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craft is, what direction it's
flying in by the positions of

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these lights.
And honestly, if you were to

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just look at a helicopter and
not know where these lights are,

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you probably couldn't find them
'cause they're they're flush.

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And they're incredibly difficult
to spot if you don't know what

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you're looking for.
I'm not gonna lie dude.

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And maybe these pictures are not
real.

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I just Google searched like
stealth helicopters.

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These things are sick bro like.
I'd have to.

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I'd have to look a lot of the
go.

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Subscribe to The Infinite Rabbit
Hole so that we can get us a

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stealth helicopter.
Yeah, let's get us infinite.

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Apparently if you want to you
can buy a Blackhawk on military

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auctions and stuff like that.
I watch a YouTube do it.

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Stealth one.
Well, somebody.

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Someday we'll get a Stealth.
Stealth one right now.

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Not right now, but.
These are all fake as fuck bro.

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These are.
Whatever.

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Give me any of them, though, I
don't.

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Care.
Not just that, but you got to

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figure there's a tremendous
amount of people around here

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that own small puddle jumper
prop planes.

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Actually one of my Co workers,
he's working on his pilot's

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license.
His dad owns a prop plane and he

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puts YouTube videos up all the
time of him flying that he flies

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on his in his ultra light and
stuff, right.

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Just a parachute with like he
basically sits on a fan and he

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just goes.
But if you want to talk about

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noise not being a factor, a
small prop plane that has NAV

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lights and if they're coming in
for landing or they're flying

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low, they also have big
spotlights on them.

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So you're not dealing with the
jet engine noise, right, 'cause

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even helicopters of small,
little compact jet engines,

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obviously they don't you know,
go into full AB and all that

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stuff.
It's a little bit different, but

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you wouldn't have that noise.
You'd have the the hum of the

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prop and that's about it.
So if we were to look at that

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and be like, you know, or I've
seen plenty of like rural

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landing strips where it's just
in the middle of a massive

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field.
There's just a strip of concrete

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or a strip of dirt like that
could be at two people are

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seeing, you know, airplanes
coming in for landing.

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They just see flashing lights in
the spotlight, you know, and

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they hear a hum or a buzz.
Yeah, especially if you're, if

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you're like in a farm area,
right.

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Oh yeah.
Farmland crop dusters.

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And here's the other thing too,
right, is like, I don't wanna, I

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don't wanna discount people's,
you know, experiences, right?

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Like, obviously you're seeing
something right now.

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I'm sure there's somebody out
there who's like, full of shit,

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right?
What's the percentage?

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I don't know, at least 1%, but
you know, people are seeing

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shit.
So, yeah, in a farming area, of

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course you're gonna have people
fly in their own planes in and

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out.
Some of them aren't gonna be

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registered in any kind of way.
You know, it's especially in

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this, in the in that time
period, people are just gonna

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have shit, you know?
Yeah.

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What are you gonna do?
And then the the last light to

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talk about would be the anti
collision lights or the smack

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lights.
And they're just depending on

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whether you're day or night,
they're flashing white or red.

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And usually, well, not usually I
think it's federal law now that

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you have to have one on the top
and the bottom of the aircraft,

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usually one on the tail, one on
the belly.

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Correct me if I'm wrong Jake,
I'm I'm not 100% sure if it's

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federally regulated to have two
now, but I know one has to has

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to be there, I'm thinking.
About the plane.

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If it's at night, I think there
has to be two, but if it's on,

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if it's daytime, I think the the
tail one is the only one that

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has to be has to take I.
Don't know about helicopters.

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I'm thinking about our plane
right now that I work on and I

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the smack lights are on the the
wings and there's one on the top

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of the tail.
There's not one on the belly.

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Oh, really?
Yeah, well, they smack lights.

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One thing that a lot of people
don't know too, if if you just

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have a a very elementary
knowledge of aviation, the the,

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the flicker of the smack light,
the, the, the strobe.

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Yeah, the strobe, the, the, the
regularity at which it goes and

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and the pattern in which it goes
will tell you what aircraft it

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is.
So like the the age 60s have a

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very specific doop doop, doop,
doop kind of I don't know that

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sounds funny pattern to it.
And then when I worked on the E

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twos, it was a a a three with a
with a pause and then a fourth

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one, right, very specific to it.
They also do that for the

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landing lights too the the
carrier landing lights on some

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of the planes.
Anyways, said though with such a

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a high presence for aircraft now
it could either be good or bad

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or it could be either a good or
bad spot to test out new.

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Like Jeff was saying, Raytheon,
Northrop Grumman, you know,

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whatever type technology, you
know, low population bunch of

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farmers, because let's be
honest, it's a bunch of farmers.

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I no longer would consider this
a fly over area considering

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I've, I've quite enjoyed the,
the area, but some people could.

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Now, that being said, I mean,
there's better places to test

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it, like in the middle of the
Mojave Desert where there's

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literally nothing.
But if that was the case, you

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know, I, I have to harken back
to the Sr. 71 Blackbird.

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That thing was in development
for 30 years before they dropped

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it or say the F35.
So those things were in

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development for 25 years.
Then it was basically things

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like, hey, we got to know if we,
you know, do a hard bank, you

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know, going nine GS, is it going
to crack the airframe in half?

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It wasn't anything really
nefarious as far as I know.

447
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,960
Or maybe it was, hey, can we,
you know, spot this person

448
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,400
brushing his teeth through his
bathroom window from, you know,

449
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,400
from 20,000 feet, you know, with
our flare, who knows?

450
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,720
But but still, it was a lot of
testing and a lot of

451
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,000
development.
And if you don't want your

452
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,520
enemies and your adversaries to
know what you have, you're going

453
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,200
to test those things in very
unpopulated areas.

454
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,760
And so that could be at two and
shoot.

455
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,920
I mean, you guys know how I feel
about aliens and stuff, but you

456
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:27,480
know, I, I, I guess it could be
that, but I more so lean towards

457
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,360
that maybe not necessarily the
government.

458
00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:32,240
Like I think Jeff and I see eye
to eye on this.

459
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,600
It's not necessarily the
government.

460
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,280
It's all those Black Ops
projects and black budget

461
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,840
projects, you know, all those
contractors that you put out a

462
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,720
FOIA request to the government
and they're gonna be like, yeah,

463
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,360
sorry, we don't know anything.
And it, because it's all

464
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:48,600
Raytheon, It's all, it's all
north of Grumman.

465
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,360
It's all, you know, whatever
that's not attached to the, the,

466
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,000
you know, federal government.
And that's why, you know, when

467
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,280
you get things like the F30
fives.

468
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,640
I had a buddy when I was
converting from a power plants

469
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,840
mechanic into an, you know,
avionics technician.

470
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,160
He was getting orders to the F30
fives.

471
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,240
And the first two years he spent
there, he couldn't even touch

472
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,800
them because it was all the
contractors from the company who

473
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,680
made them.
Whenever they come in with a

474
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,360
gripe or something for avionics
or whatever it was, they would

475
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:26,480
work on it.
And they were basically training

476
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,520
these guys, but they couldn't do
anything about it.

477
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,480
So even the federal government,
even though they paid for these

478
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,400
aircraft, they pay, they paid
for the publications to fix the

479
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,640
aircraft, they were still under
contract and, and under warranty

480
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,640
essentially.
And they weren't even allowed to

481
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,560
like touch them because
truthfully, the federal

482
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,160
government doesn't own any of
this stuff.

483
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,760
It's owned by these companies
that make these things.

484
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,000
And so they.
Don't even, you know, it's not

485
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,880
even them.
It's like shell companies under.

486
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,320
Shell companies under.
Sure.

487
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,640
'Cause it's like, you know.
This this manufacturer made the

488
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,320
plane, but who made the engines,
Who made the the windows, Who

489
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,960
made the whatever, right?
The hydraulics, you know,

490
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:09,240
systems, things like that.
So moving on past that right,

491
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,600
'cause we're already 30 minutes
into this episode, moving into

492
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,160
the, the, the things to me that
that do sound like real

493
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,320
unidentified craft.
And I it is I think this is a

494
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:27,400
perfect segue into episode 2,
although there were plenty of

495
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,240
these also mentioned in episode
one, but episode 2 where we

496
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,560
specifically talked about the
Carol Forrester and the officer

497
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:40,120
George Wheeler encounters with
orange craft.

498
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,160
Now these are these are the
descriptions on these are

499
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:49,000
completely different.
I from what you know, you hear

500
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:54,600
about this orange glowing like
craft that is commonly seen

501
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,920
around Elmwood or in the Pierce
County triangle.

502
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,000
This sounds like something
that's very interesting,

503
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,160
especially when it comes to
these three encounters.

504
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,480
So we'll, we'll start off with
the the Carol Forster encounter

505
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,240
and we're we're hoping, we're
hoping very, very much that we

506
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:22,960
may or may not have somebody
potentially able to clarify a

507
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,680
lot of this story as well as
very, a lot, very, very many,

508
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,400
many very forgot how to fucking
English today.

509
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:39,520
Yeah, who may be able to bring
us into some more of the modern

510
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,640
stuff who is intimately tied to
this specific encounter.

511
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,280
Not gonna go ahead and put names
out there 'cause I don't, I

512
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,320
don't mean any disrespect and I
don't want to, you know, ruin

513
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,360
any chance that we might
possibly have.

514
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,160
So we'll go ahead and leave that
person anonymous.

515
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,560
But if that person is listening,
just know that we do.

516
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,040
We really would love to hear
your stories.

517
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,440
But moving on, what do you guys
think of the Carol Forrester

518
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,400
encounter I.
I just want to make sure I don't

519
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,240
have my stories mixed up because
there was a lot of stories.

520
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,960
This is the one that was like
the two bowls shaped like the

521
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,440
two bowls.
What was it?

522
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,680
Or like 2.
So both her and Officer Wheeler

523
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,160
made a description very similar
to each other with hers and

524
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,880
Officer Wheeler's second
encounter where it looked like

525
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:37,200
two cereal bowls.
The way Wheeler put it was that

526
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:42,040
they were back-to-back or side
to side or or whatnot, where I

527
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,920
believe Carol Forrester did make
the description of two bowls on

528
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,760
top of each other.
But to to kind of brush up some

529
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,600
memories on the Carol Forrester
encounter is that this is the

530
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,800
one where she was with her four
or her three children in her car

531
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,680
being chased by this by this
orange glowing craft.

532
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And she pulled into the driveway

533
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,160
after this thing kind of moved
in front of her.

534
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,920
She reversed out back into the
driveway where she went into the

535
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,600
the the Weber house.
The neighbor's driveway,

536
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,320
basically.
Yeah, basically.

537
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,800
Basically the neighbor, they
came out, they all saw it.

538
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,120
Carol felt better, so she got
back in the car with her kids,

539
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,920
started going back home, and
then this thing landed on on the

540
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,800
road in front of her and then
she went back to the driveway

541
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,720
and this is where.
I carry a gun for this specific

542
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:38,120
reason.
This is where Mr. Weber jumped

543
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,400
in his truck and escorted her
back to her house.

544
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,960
And then they were those two as
like the little caravan that

545
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,880
they had created also was being
chased by this thing by only a

546
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,760
few car links behind.
And as Carol got home, she was

547
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,360
able to watch it through, I
believe it was her kitchen

548
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,360
window with her husband when he
got home before it finally left.

549
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,040
But yeah, that I.
This was the other guy.

550
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960
Did the other guy hang out until
the husband got home?

551
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,400
No, I don't think so.
I, I don't know.

552
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,320
I don't, I don't know.
But he there is there's plenty

553
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,320
of articles in the binder where
they do talk to talk to him.

554
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,480
They talk to because the house
was owned by his mother at the

555
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,000
time.
It was owned by his mother.

556
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,320
They were living there and they
had they had teenage kids at the

557
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,360
time.
There is one or two articles

558
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,480
where he is describing it and
telling you his point of view,

559
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,000
which matches up with Carol's
story.

560
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,320
So the real impressive thing
about this particular story and

561
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,120
actually this and the Weber or
and the the Wheeler stories were

562
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,720
that there was multiple
witnesses that basically vouch

563
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,200
for what the what the, the, the
main witness was saying, right?

564
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,400
So Carol as the main witness
explains all of this stuff.

565
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,200
And she even went on to the
Geraldo show and.

566
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,760
Told her story there.
Is it Geraldo?

567
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,520
It's Geraldo.
Well, I fucked that up, so look

568
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,880
at me anyway.
It's.

569
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,480
Still on TV you could literally
look him up and then when they

570
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,000
talk to him you could be.
Like should I?

571
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,600
Should I rerecord that?
Maybe I'll.

572
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,240
Just no no I already did the
video and everything over bro.

573
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,400
We just we all laughed together
with you.

574
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,440
It's also.
Have a.

575
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,320
Geraldo half a dub and be like
Geraldo.

576
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,840
We're talking about it now.
People aren't going to know what

577
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,560
we're talking.
Yeah.

578
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:45,200
So Geraldo, Nah.
So she went on, she went on the

579
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,400
show, you know, and, and many,
many other articles in the

580
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,880
binder.
And I mean, you can go online

581
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,600
and Google the Carol the Carol
Forrester encounter and find

582
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920
quotes from her about that
night.

583
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,120
And gosh, I think his name was
Robert Weber.

584
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:04,720
I could, I could be messing that
up.

585
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,960
I'm just gonna call him Mr.
Weber out of respect 'cause I

586
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:13,320
can't remember his first name.
But their stories of lying and

587
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,280
Weber's teenage kids.
One of them was also quoted in

588
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,040
an article saying practically
the same thing.

589
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:24,719
So there was definitely
something in the sky.

590
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,480
It was fucking with them that
night.

591
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,199
It was coming in and out of
above the tree lines over the

592
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,800
fields, coming onto the road,
chasing them, fucking with them

593
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,000
and then backing off when,
whenever you know, she would go

594
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,199
back to the Weber household.
And it's, it's just, I don't

595
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:46,520
know, man, it's super strange
and it just nothing about it

596
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,639
really reminds me of of a of a,
a known aircraft.

597
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,679
I mean, the movements I guess
could be mimicked by a

598
00:34:54,679 --> 00:34:58,120
helicopter, but there was so
many things about it that just

599
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,160
doesn't say helicopter.
I don't think that there's any

600
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,040
question that there's things
that aren't that we don't like.

601
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,880
I think we all agree that
there's other craft.

602
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,560
I mean, the question is just
like what?

603
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,400
Like where are they coming from,
right?

604
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,120
Is it ours?
Is it not ours?

605
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,560
Is it aliens?
Is it interdimensionals?

606
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,720
Is it China?
Who is it?

607
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,560
That's the real question.
And we have all these like

608
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:22,600
TikTok videos or TikTok Tik Tak
videos and things like that

609
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,840
showing that these things have
existed for a very long time or

610
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,960
have been, I don't mean existed
in the sense that like the

611
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,920
aliens have been here for a very
long time.

612
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,120
I mean, like, you know, projects
like this have been in place for

613
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,360
a very long time.
So yeah, I mean, her seeing

614
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,400
something that was completely
different or like two bowls

615
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,480
stacked on top of each other,
whatever it is, I mean it it I

616
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,000
mean, yeah, right.
Like.

617
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,880
I agree.
When I hear a weird thing, I'm

618
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,480
like, sure, OK.
Like they now they've got,

619
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,360
they've got some other weird
physics that they're playing

620
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,760
with and they're able to do
something else, you know, And

621
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,480
it's like, you know, to me, like
that's the, the more interesting

622
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,840
part of it all is just trying to
figure out like, what exactly is

623
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,320
this, you know?
Which, honestly, we'll we'll

624
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,880
never know.
Like, I don't think we'll ever

625
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,000
know.
'Cause dude gets blasted with a

626
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,160
blue laser beam or something.
So it's like, you know.

627
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:24,360
Yeah, it lights up the whole
interior of the car and stuff.

628
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:30,480
Yeah.
So let's we'll move right into

629
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,840
Wheeler's encounters then,
because that's what you're

630
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,280
referring to.
The first one.

631
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,320
It, it's a, it's a pretty big
event, right?

632
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:52,120
The this is a, a police officer,
ex military pilot highway New

633
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,000
York State Highway patrolman.
You know, he's, he's supposed to

634
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,840
be a reputable source.
So you, you gotta, you know,

635
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,240
there's some people out there
that would be like, well, none

636
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:08,640
of that means reputable to me.
I mean, but when you'd look at

637
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:14,880
how many other people were also
reporting the same thing, right?

638
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,160
And that that's what's most most
impressive about the second one

639
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,240
or the the first Wheeler
encounter was that all of the

640
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,560
other reports that were coming
in and that were all describing

641
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:29,640
the same thing and they didn't
have anything to do with Officer

642
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,200
Wheeler that night.
These were completely separate

643
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,760
people from different areas.
Different locations are in the

644
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,560
area that had nothing to do with
George Wheeler.

645
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,800
And he didn't conversate when
any of these people.

646
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,800
These were already being
reported into dispatch, into

647
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,480
radio shows to the Sheriff's
Department.

648
00:37:53,680 --> 00:38:00,080
And I don't know, it's, it's I,
I find that very compelling,

649
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,760
especially when you tie that
Officer Wheeler was describing

650
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,600
something so similar to Carol
Forrester.

651
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,040
And this only happened a few
months apart from each other.

652
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,280
I don't know personally, I, I,
I, I think that this this whole

653
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,280
orange glowing ball thing in in
Elmwood is, is an extremely

654
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,440
intriguing.
This is why I'm so excited to

655
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,680
like go and actually interview
people and talk about their

656
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,920
experiences.
Certainly we're going to get

657
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,800
some people that are kind of
just like riding the hype.

658
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:37,880
But like, I don't know, I'm
just, I'm just stoked for it to

659
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,560
hear it from their, their first
hand accounts of, of what they

660
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,520
saw and, and stuff and break it
down because certainly there's

661
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,080
some people that saw some weird
stuff.

662
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,480
You know, I, I put those sorts
of people in, in high regard,

663
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:54,640
people that are in law
enforcement or military type

664
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,520
personnel as as far as like now,
I'm not saying that I didn't

665
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,840
work with any people that were
compulsive liars 'cause I

666
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,240
certainly did have my time in
the military.

667
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:10,160
But generally speaking, they're
pretty straight arrows and they

668
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,720
do hardcore jobs and they're
hardcore people and they don't

669
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:18,840
BSU and you get someone that
left military service goes, oh,

670
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,240
excuse me.
Oh, I need to mute that.

671
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,400
Sorry.
Leaves military service, goes

672
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:30,320
into the police force and then
see something weird, especially

673
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:31,960
being having a pilot's
background.

674
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,960
Yeah, it's like you you probably
know when you're seeing

675
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,120
something that's strange, right?
You're at at that rate, you

676
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,120
know, you've seen it all right.
You've seen the worst of

677
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,360
humanity, the best of humanity.
You've seen all different types

678
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,480
of vehicles that we might have
at the at the current moment

679
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,000
that are available to like
military wise, available to to

680
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,920
be utilized for operations and
things like that.

681
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,680
Now, I don't know exactly what
sort of a pilot he was, but you

682
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,360
know, generally they have really
high clearances too, especially

683
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,640
if they're doing, you know,
operations and stuff.

684
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,040
So yeah, I mean.
I put more credit into him,

685
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:19,000
unfortunately, you know, just
the bias right then random

686
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,800
people throughout the city
saying, Hey, I I saw this, that

687
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,720
and the other.
But if his story is lining up

688
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:28,760
with other people's stories and
that gives them credibility as

689
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,440
well.
And that's kind of how my brain

690
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,520
works and that's kind of how my
bias works.

691
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,800
So clearly something was seen
and I correct me if I'm wrong,

692
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,200
'cause I, I listened to him all
a couple times, but it was a lot

693
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,040
of information.
He ended up dying like just

694
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,160
under a year later, correct?
That was after the 2nd

695
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,520
encounter.
Right, because he got radiated.

696
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,920
Yeah, well, he got, he got hit
with by that blue light.

697
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,960
We'll talk about that one in a
little bit more in depth here in

698
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,560
a minute after we move on from
the the first his first

699
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,440
encounter.
Jeff, you sound, you look like

700
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,560
you had something to say, man.
No, no, I'm just, I'm kind of

701
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,040
just looking up some stuff right
now.

702
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,320
I'm trying to think like I was
just looking up what kind of

703
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,680
military contractors and defense
contractors and aerospace

704
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,600
contractors there are in
Wisconsin.

705
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,640
There's a lot.
I don't know how many are there

706
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:18,920
were there then, but I'm sure at
least a few so.

707
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:25,160
Yeah.
But yeah, so just to kind of

708
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,560
give you guys listening a scope
for this, I don't know how much

709
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,640
I highlighted this in the
episode, but the Forster

710
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,880
encounter having March 2nd of
1975 and George Wheeler's first

711
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,240
encounter happened April 6th of
1975.

712
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,920
So just slightly over a month
later, pretty much the same

713
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:52,600
aircraft or, or a, a, a craft
being described similarly is

714
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,200
being spotted, except for the
one fact that George Wheeler

715
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,040
described this thing as about
the size of a football field.

716
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,160
That's big.
That's big.

717
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,040
But then you do, you know, you
look back at some of the smaller

718
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,480
stories and there's that one
specific one where this big

719
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,160
giant orange ball was coming up
over the horizon and four other

720
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,720
white ones just spread out from
it and then did their own things

721
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,160
at weird angles and weird
speeds.

722
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,840
And then they came back and were
then back into.

723
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,000
Yeah.
And, you know, that's something

724
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,920
that you hear quite a bit
through a lot of American UFO

725
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,680
stories and encounters.
You hear a lot about lights

726
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,000
splitting apart and coming back
together.

727
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,120
I mean this.
Yeah, you did.

728
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:42,200
You did.
You're right.

729
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,360
You did film one.
They didn't come back together,

730
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,080
but they they spread, spread
apart.

731
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,560
Yeah, it was pretty neat.
We should put that on Tiktok.

732
00:42:49,720 --> 00:42:53,800
But anyway, we should.
I mean, this could be an

733
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,760
international phenomenon as
well, but I'm not too familiar

734
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,200
with some of the international
stuff.

735
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,840
So anybody listening outside the
USI do apologize if this is also

736
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:06,200
something that shows up for you.
Blame my ignorance.

737
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,760
He's.
Got a lot of it.

738
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:14,640
I have a ton of it, Geraldo.
I'm gonna record.

739
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,760
It.
Anyways, Elmwood three.

740
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,440
No, let's go to Sorry.
Let's go to George Wheeler's

741
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,040
second encounter.
This was so Jake and I, when we

742
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:33,000
went and had our personal tour
with Amy, she one of the very

743
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:36,240
actually the very first place
that she did bring us was to the

744
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:39,040
quarry where George Wheeler had
this encounter.

745
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:45,120
And basically to describe this
right, you do, you go up a hill

746
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,920
and right when the the hill is
about to flatten out, just

747
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,200
before that, you can go into
this dirt Rd. driveway sort of

748
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,800
thing right next to where the
quarry is.

749
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,400
And it's got a fence and
everything.

750
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,800
But there's a nice sign there
that commemorates the, the

751
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,360
George Wheeler and multiple
other sightings that happened in

752
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,440
that same area.
One thing you'll you'll learn,

753
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,240
you know, in time, once we get
more stories from what we have

754
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:20,920
heard that wasn't recorded in
these articles, was that there

755
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,240
is a lot to do with this quarry.
They're coming from the minerals

756
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,200
dude.
Yeah, and that's, that's

757
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,000
something that has been brought
up in private conversations with

758
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:34,880
with with Amy multiple times
because I believe that she

759
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,040
actually lives near a different
quarry.

760
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,480
I could be completely wrong.
It could be the same one, I'm

761
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,480
not 100% sure, but I believe
it's a different one at where

762
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,000
her house is.
But Jake and I did go and see

763
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:52,120
this, this, this quarry.
So we were able to kind of, I,

764
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,360
I, I wouldn't say retrace
Officer Wheeler's encounter

765
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,840
because honestly, at the time
that we did go see this, we

766
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,400
didn't know anything about the
happenings at Homewood.

767
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,920
We knew that there was
something, we didn't know the

768
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,880
stories behind it.
We went there and honestly, I

769
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,640
wish I had known the stories
because, you know, I, I would

770
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,960
have looked more at it and try
and try to pick out things like

771
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,640
the alfalfa field.
I thought that would've been

772
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,760
something interesting to look
for.

773
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,560
But if he was where we were at,
where, I mean, we basically

774
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,800
parked right off the road, right
into the the entryway of this

775
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,080
quarry.
And if he's sitting there and he

776
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,880
sees this giant orange thing
hovering over in the in the

777
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,440
short distance, Jake, there's
nothing but sky there, man.

778
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:39,800
I mean.
Yeah, no, I mean, you see

779
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,320
everything.
You got a good view of what's

780
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,680
going on.
I mean, it's not like you're not

781
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,200
gonna be looking through trees
and you're not gonna be like,

782
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,520
hmm, what is that squinting your
eyes?

783
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,920
I mean, this is gonna be right
there right in front of you,

784
00:45:54,080 --> 00:46:01,080
broad night time and very, very
easily spotted and probably

785
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,600
extremely easy or extremely
simple to point out the details

786
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,000
as he did in this in this
encounter.

787
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,320
And that was like one of the
big, one big details that stuck

788
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:16,280
out to me in this second
encounter was the amount of

789
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,680
details that he was able to
reiterate.

790
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,120
Now, you got to understand the
first time that kind of caught

791
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:27,200
him off guard, right?
He did give us some details as

792
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,480
to what it was.
The second time he's, he's more

793
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,360
ready, right?
This happened, let's see, from

794
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:43,360
April 6th 1975 to April 22nd
1976, so a little bit over a a

795
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,000
year and a half a month after
this took place.

796
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:54,000
So you know, he's he's very well
informed of the stories that

797
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,480
happened in Elmwood.
He had his own first encounter

798
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:04,280
at this time, and this time he
pulls up, spots this thing in

799
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:10,240
the sky and is able to basically
take in everything that he's

800
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:15,920
seeing and pass on for a little
while, at least the description

801
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:21,560
of what he's seeing to GAIL
Hillmer, the dispatcher that

802
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,560
night.
So pretty pretty interesting

803
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,560
stuff.
Is there recordings of that?

804
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,800
You know, man, I don't know, but
that is gonna be something that

805
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,840
we may find out when we go to
the library.

806
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,480
We need to you need to do you
have a notepad of like yeah,

807
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,040
like things to get when we get
there.

808
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:43,160
OK it.
Should.

809
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:47,640
Recording, yeah, recording of
that would be one of them for

810
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,760
sure.
That would be pretty cool to

811
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,680
'cause it would if that.
Happened in 2024.

812
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,760
There would definitely be a
recording of it, right 'cause

813
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:58,320
that is, you know.
Yeah, even if they did have

814
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,240
recording, I doubt it would be
digital highly.

815
00:48:01,240 --> 00:48:03,120
Doubt, I mean.
And then here's another thing,

816
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,080
right?
Well, I guess we'll talk more

817
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,080
about the rads he got ratted
out, but.

818
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,400
Do you think so?
Yeah, we need that.

819
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,200
Now, do you think he do you
think he did get hit with some

820
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,240
radiation?
He got hit with something, man.

821
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,600
I mean, must've right?
And it, well, I mean, here's the

822
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:20,960
thing.
We could, you could probably

823
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,280
find out if it was radiated.
You could, if you know where the

824
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,360
spot is, you could take some
device over there and we could

825
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,400
do some testing and see if
there's any heightened whatever.

826
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,840
Yeah, but that would be
extremely residual by now,

827
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:40,480
perhaps probably even to the
point we're non existent.

828
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,400
Maybe, I don't know, I'm not a
scientist.

829
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,960
No, I mean, this is this is
definitely stuff that we should

830
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:53,440
be asking about when we when we
get our our toes wet in the.

831
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:54,800
Air did anybody?
Geiger counter.

832
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,040
I got a Geiger counter.
It'll be here on Tuesday.

833
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:58,720
Did you really?
Yeah.

834
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,600
See how serious we are in the
infinite Rival Everybody super

835
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,480
serial?
I always said man, they just

836
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,840
need to give me a job at the
boardroom where they're like

837
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,360
making movies or coming up with
ideas for stuff.

838
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,240
Just pay me like 100 grand a
year to just come up with ideas

839
00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,840
bro I got you.
There's somebody in the

840
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,320
government that literally gets
paid to come up with ideas to

841
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,320
try to fool the population that
could be.

842
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,320
AI could do it.
Fucking chill.

843
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:27,200
I could do it.
Yeah, this is another one where

844
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:33,440
there was multiple people who
either witnessed him or

845
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,240
witnessed the craft 'cause there
was that gentleman who lived

846
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:39,040
right next to Cory, who looked
out his window and was able to

847
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:44,160
tell GAIL Helmer, the dispatcher
that night, exactly what he was

848
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,280
seeing.
And what he described was

849
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:51,320
basically spot on with what
Officer Wheeler was describing

850
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,600
before.
Before everything went dead.

851
00:49:55,080 --> 00:50:02,040
Now there are multiple articles
in my binder that I think his

852
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:10,200
last name was Friedrichson right
here where he was the the main

853
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,800
person being interviewed.
So to have him give his

854
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,760
description and how that
collaborates with George

855
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,480
Wheelers and how close the
descriptions that they both had

856
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:27,880
together, it's very impressive.
It's just the, these three

857
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,320
events, I, I, I really think
make Elmwood, Elmwood.

858
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:34,720
They're just absolutely
incredible.

859
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:38,360
They're huge, they're
descriptive, they have multiple

860
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:44,160
eyes and they're intense.
And then it's just all all three

861
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,600
of them alone are, are really
impressive encounters.

862
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,880
But then when you just look at
them bundled together in in the,

863
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,520
you know, nice little package
that they're in.

864
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,640
And then you add the details of
all the other little accounts

865
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,400
that collaborate with them from
other points of view along

866
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,440
around the area, from people
calling in and reporting their

867
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,360
own sightings that match up to
what the Wheelers were looking

868
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,920
at or what George Wheeler was
looking at.

869
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:17,640
From, you know, places such as 5
miles away, 30 minutes

870
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:22,240
afterwards or 10 minutes
afterwards, somebody calling the

871
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:26,160
Sheriff's Department saying what
they they're seeing and how that

872
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,240
looks almost exactly what
exactly like what George Wheeler

873
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:32,880
has seen.
So I don't know, man.

874
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,440
It's.
We know if anybody's, anybody

875
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,080
who has seen it in any of these
stories is still around.

876
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:47,080
Yes, that's what we're, we're
trying notebook, we're trying,

877
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,000
OK.
It's an active try.

878
00:51:49,240 --> 00:51:57,320
It is an active try so and Jeff,
you may you may you may learn

879
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:58,440
more about that when you're
here.

880
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:06,160
So episode 3.
Sorry, I I just don't want to

881
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,360
ruin any chance that we possibly
could have, you know?

882
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:15,960
So episode 3 I.
Want a UFO landing pad in the

883
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,880
center of town?
Yeah, start a new petition just

884
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,520
to say we have it.
Well, there was that that one

885
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,760
lady who went and made one of
the pebbles out of her her

886
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,760
garden and and the Mississippi
River on on her property.

887
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,000
Listen, you could pitch that as
a tourist attraction and you

888
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,680
might you might be able to
swing.

889
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,560
Something that's, that's
originally what Tom Weber had in

890
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,760
mind.
You know, I, I mean, I, I'm not,

891
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,960
I'm not gonna sit here and say
that I know what he was

892
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,520
thinking.
He sure came off as he wanted to

893
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,280
build this as a, a place for
UFOs to land and alien beings to

894
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:58,120
come and conversate or integrate
with humanity.

895
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:04,400
But the mayor at the time
definitely saw this as a tourism

896
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,720
opportunity.
One of the slogans or sayings

897
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:12,320
that that that was very popular
or that he was known for saying

898
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:18,040
at the time was, you know, a, a
scenario based saying where if

899
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,040
someone asks you where Madison
was, then they'll be like, oh,

900
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,000
it's just a couple hours South
of Elmwood.

901
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,880
You know, as as kind of a joke
of putting Elmwood on the map

902
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:31,040
and making it a bigger place in
Wisconsin than Madison is.

903
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:36,280
And I think that's what the real
goal was here with the UFO

904
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,880
landing spot.
I mean, you think that this is

905
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:44,360
back in 88, right, $50 million
in in 88 was just ungodly money.

906
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,440
That's a lot of fucking money
back then, man.

907
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,680
You know, in fact.
How much quick create is that

908
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:54,520
for 100 by 100 foot square?
How much quick create is that?

909
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,840
We'll do it as though put a big.
Infant hole logo on it.

910
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:04,200
You're right.
Let's see, $50 million in 1988

911
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:11,160
would be worth.
Holy crap 132 million dollars

912
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:19,280
$905,545.93.
Man, that's why we need

913
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,480
subscribers.
That's.

914
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,080
Why I see?
Libra visa is the reason why it

915
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,920
didn't work out 'cause dude
that's a big ask man that you

916
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,200
know you don't.
That's a huge ask.

917
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,280
You don't need that in Elmwood,
WI for a UFO landing pad tourist

918
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,080
attraction.
You do not need that much.

919
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,520
You know, you could get away
with maybe like $5,000,000.

920
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,400
It'll probably get you a nice
little set up.

921
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,720
You know, you could.
You could draw some dies.

922
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:45,320
Well, he only ended up pulling
in 20 K is what he said.

923
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,920
You know too much.
Well, there's a lot of, there's

924
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,480
a lot of people that, that were
upset with him because he ended

925
00:54:53,480 --> 00:55:01,200
up funding his own UFO research
organization in Chippewa Falls.

926
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:11,120
And he basically he created this
or this group of people who

927
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,320
would always get together and
start planning things.

928
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:17,320
And, you know, and, and some of
the things that I found, there

929
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,320
was people pointing fingers at
him saying that he was paying

930
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,760
his friends with the money to
talk, sit at the table and talk

931
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,240
about UFOs.
That happens.

932
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,760
Is this organization still
around?

933
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,760
No, no it's not.
Are any of the people?

934
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,280
Still around from the
organization.

935
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:33,720
I don't know.
That's a good question.

936
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:35,560
We could look into that.
Notebook.

937
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,800
I was able to get a couple of
their names.

938
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:42,760
I put it in the, in the
presentation, but I was able to

939
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,840
get a few of their names.
So, I mean, it wouldn't be too

940
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,800
hard to, to look up and see if
any of these people are still

941
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,800
around, maybe even family
members are still around.

942
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:59,520
But yeah, the, the landing pad,
I just, I, I don't know, Elmwood

943
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:07,400
is a very, very small town.
It's got I think the back in 88

944
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:11,080
when this was happening, they
had 981 people there.

945
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:18,560
And right now I'm Googling their
population is right now at 811.

946
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:23,720
So it went down by over 100
people since 1988.

947
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:28,520
So it's it went down six people
since 2010.

948
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:33,360
So there's not a lot going on
out there.

949
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,240
Jake and I, when we went out
there to see Amy for the first

950
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:41,560
time, we went downtown.
There's a couple bars, couple

951
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,560
smaller restaurants, the
library, a couple businesses.

952
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,200
There's a really awesome
butchery place.

953
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:52,720
Interesting to me because it's
like, you know, there's not you.

954
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,680
You don't hear about me, dude.
We've been doing this show and

955
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,280
I've been doing this show with
you guys now for what, how many

956
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,600
years?
At least three years, right?

957
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,680
So, and I've never heard of this
up until, you know, a couple

958
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,680
months ago and we started
talking about Elmwood.

959
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,720
So there's no shows, there's no
documentaries, there's no,

960
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,720
there's nothing that I know
about except for what basically

961
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,760
I've heard from you so.
And the the funniest thing about

962
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,480
this the whole thing, I've never
heard of Elmwood before I moved

963
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,160
here.
Not once have I ever.

964
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,640
Heard of it and you're the guy.
And then the other thing is, is

965
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,760
that, you know, just, I mean, we
all know, right?

966
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,800
Like the Pentagon and everything
came out and over the last like

967
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,840
two years they've been dropping
a lot of shit.

968
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,400
That's basically saying like,
hey man, there's stuff going on.

969
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,880
There is stuff.
Happening and that.

970
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,400
Could be a PSIOP, we all get
that, but let's just assume it's

971
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,000
not that.
There definitely is some shit

972
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,280
going on so.
Well, so I think that there's a

973
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,680
reason why this binder ends in
88.

974
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,080
And I think that, you know, just
speculating here.

975
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,200
And the reason why I added the,
the CIA portion to this

976
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:04,400
presentation in at the end of
episode one was because I wanted

977
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,520
to instill that there was
government eyes on Elmwood, the

978
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,600
project Aquarius when they were
first starting out with the,

979
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,960
the, the exercising the, the,
the, the seers or the the

980
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,840
watchers or hookers or whatever
their description is.

981
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,440
We'll go over that in another
episode here.

982
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,080
Absolutely.
Actually, very soon.

983
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,400
Pretty sure that project
Aquarius when they were spotting

984
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,960
the Soviet Subs off of, you
know, different coastlines

985
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,120
around the world when they were,
you know, practicing Bunny ear

986
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,120
quotes, right?
Trying to find the Soviet Subs

987
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:47,920
from inside a, a LED case room
in Washington, DC.

988
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,560
The, the people who were
actually looking for them, the

989
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,760
people who were doing the remote
viewing, spotted a lot of UFOs

990
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,560
over nuclear sub locations right
over the water in the middle of

991
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,320
fucking nowhere out in the
ocean.

992
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:10,440
I think that I've, I, I think
that they use this to kind of as

993
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,200
a, as a secondary mission, or
maybe even the real primary

994
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,160
mission, who fucking knows?
But I, I really think that they,

995
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,920
they saw something over Elmwood.
I think that they were looking

996
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,600
at Elmwood.
What's that?

997
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,960
Sorry, I mean just like.
No, you're good.

998
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:30,520
What if just a what if here?
What if when you do something

999
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,640
like a remote viewing, you are
causing the anomaly that people

1000
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:39,200
are seeing?
As like a drone, like a camera

1001
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,400
drone.
If that makes sense, right?

1002
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,600
Like let's say I'm here, I do
remote viewing and I'm trying to

1003
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,960
see something and maybe I see
you in my remote viewing.

1004
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:51,000
But you have to manifest a
physical object to.

1005
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:52,280
Maybe you don't hear.
Your eyes.

1006
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,520
Maybe it just, that's what
happens, maybe because there's

1007
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,880
some connection, it just causes
this weird anomaly that nobody

1008
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,120
can really put their hands on.
And I'm not saying all the craft

1009
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,440
right, 'cause obviously people
have seen like metallic

1010
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,880
spherical craft when they've
said that, but.

1011
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,560
I'm gonna be honest with you, I
don't think so at all.

1012
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:10,880
And that's because I'm not
crazy.

1013
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:17,920
But I'm just kidding, dude.
I don't know.

1014
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,560
Maybe I don't think so.
It just doesn't.

1015
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,960
That's not something that's
within my wheelhouse.

1016
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,240
I'm pretty sure if we had CJ on
right now, he'd probably eat

1017
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,560
that up right away.
I just don't.

1018
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,960
What's up?
My thing just switched from my

1019
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,480
mic to my.
My audio just switched my mic to

1020
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,840
my.
I, I I did get a notification

1021
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,240
that you you started a new track
somehow.

1022
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,760
I don't know how you did.
It all.

1023
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,120
Right.
Well, we're just have to finish

1024
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,240
off this episode like this.
It's not it's not that big a

1025
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,120
deal, man.
I'll, I'll clean it up.

1026
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,080
I'll make it sound good.
Yeah, it still sounds good on my

1027
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,640
end, too.
But I I I do think that there

1028
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,080
was something in the skies over
Elmwood.

1029
01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,560
I think that the government knew
about it.

1030
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,600
I think that the government put
a hush order down because if you

1031
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,280
look at all the media attention
that Elmwood was getting in

1032
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:13,520
8888's a big year, right?
88 is when the Geraldo or

1033
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:20,920
Geraldo who, who, however you
pronounce it, you know, you talk

1034
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,920
about that episode, you talk
about Dan Rather, you're talking

1035
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:30,160
about multiple, multiple
publications, both national and

1036
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,880
local.
Tom Weber came out and said

1037
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,240
that.
NASA scientists.

1038
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:40,640
Yeah, the NASA scientists, the,
the, the UFO panel from Yeah,

1039
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,400
which we will eventually talk
about more in a later episode.

1040
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,000
Actually, actually a very soon,
possibly the very next episode

1041
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,840
after this one, we'll be talking
about UFO programs in the

1042
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:57,520
government.
But you talk, you have Tom Weber

1043
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,040
talking about the the landing
site which brought all the

1044
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,480
attention.
And then all of a sudden it

1045
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:08,040
seemed like literally months
after a year, two years stops,

1046
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,200
everything just shuts down.
There's no more fucking

1047
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,800
information, like at all.
So we know that the CIA was

1048
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,340
there, right?
The NASA scientists, quote UN

1049
01:02:17,340 --> 01:02:21,360
quote, were there or the NASA
engineers were there that were

1050
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,280
actually from the, the UFO
panel.

1051
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:31,440
I think that there's definitely
something going on over Elmwood.

1052
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:36,080
I think that we have great
documentation for it.

1053
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:40,200
I think that it got too big in,
in 88.

1054
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,640
The government shut that shit
down and put a gag order on a

1055
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,280
lot of people, possibly even
some threats out there said shut

1056
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:50,880
your fucking mouths.
There's nothing going on here.

1057
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,160
And I, I think that's, that's
kind of your answer, Jeff from

1058
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,200
earlier about why is it that
there's nothing recent?

1059
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:04,360
And I, I, I, I think that we're,
we're far enough away from 88

1060
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,560
now to where if people came
forward, they wouldn't be under

1061
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:10,720
that same threat.
So I think you, we have a good

1062
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,400
chance at bringing this back
into the limelight, especially

1063
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,480
with all the acceptance that's
going on with UFOs right now and

1064
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:22,000
all the, the government entities
coming forward about UFOs and

1065
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,440
being comfortable talking about
it.

1066
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,160
I think this is a really good
chance for Elmwood to push into

1067
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,240
the forefront of the UFO talk
and in the United States, if not

1068
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:35,280
the world, Honestly, I 'cause I,
I really do think that there

1069
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,920
could be something here.
I agree.

1070
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:42,320
Good.
Well, be there soon.

1071
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,640
Yeah.
Check it out Talk.

1072
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,960
Oh man, it's just, it's just my
thought, 'cause the same thing

1073
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,040
came to my mind, Jeff, is why
isn't this out there?

1074
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,840
Why are people not talking about
Elmwood?

1075
01:03:55,320 --> 01:04:01,120
Because I, I've kind of done a
carousel of different shows and

1076
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,360
was been a guest on some, some
shows recently, probably about

1077
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,760
11:50 of them, right?
So far where I'm talking about

1078
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,080
Elmwood and nobody knows about
it.

1079
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,720
Nobody, nobody's heard of
Elmwood.

1080
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,960
And it's, it, it, it's weird.
It's definitely weird.

1081
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:23,040
But you guys got anything else?
No, man, I mean, I'm excited to

1082
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,080
get up there.
When will this be out?

1083
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,000
This will be out a week before
I'm there.

1084
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,840
That this will be out.
Whenever it is, I'm excited to

1085
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,240
get there, yeah.
This will be out.

1086
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,400
Jake, what are we barbecuing,
dude?

1087
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,920
What are we eating, man?
Pork shoulders.

1088
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:42,200
Oh yeah, I like the sound of
that bud.

1089
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:43,120
Pork.
Shoulders.

1090
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,440
Anything ribs keep the
conversation going for a second

1091
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,800
boss.
Depends on how long I'm.

1092
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,720
It depends on how long we're at
the.

1093
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:56,480
Place maybe some Tri tip Tri tip
would be nice.

1094
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,120
Yeah, it would be good.
Probably Tri tip we need.

1095
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,600
To do some fried potatoes.
Especially if we're setting up a

1096
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,840
booth and a table and stuff like
we're gonna have to get there

1097
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:05,960
early.
We'll be there the whole time.

1098
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,000
We'll be there at the end
breaking it down, you know, and,

1099
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,520
and if we're lucky, hopefully
we're able to talk to some

1100
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:16,640
people and that might include
having to talk after the event.

1101
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,080
You know, I can't imagine that
some of these people would want

1102
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,160
to talk to us like at the event
around of a bunch of people, you

1103
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,200
know, so.
Well, that's the whole purpose

1104
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,760
of trying to be professional
with this documentary and, and

1105
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:32,320
coming out so clean with it and
being neutral and a, and a lot

1106
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,000
of the topics that were being
talked about.

1107
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,600
You know, we, we don't want to
come out as being assholes.

1108
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,920
We don't want to come off as
going in there trying to make

1109
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,920
money off of their story.
We want to come into their,

1110
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:52,960
their world and accent it and,
and make it better.

1111
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,520
You know, we, we don't, we want
to come in and we want to

1112
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,400
respect their story.
We want to respect their

1113
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,320
privacy.
We want to respect who they are,

1114
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:04,240
but at the same time we want to
bring their story to the public.

1115
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,040
Yeah, yeah, just for the record,
you know, I'm excited, but there

1116
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:09,440
yeah, there's no money in this
for, for any of us.

1117
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,320
Don't get the wrong idea.
But no, it's, it's exciting

1118
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:16,600
because, you know, like I said,
I've heard or I feel like I've

1119
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,640
heard every UFO story, right.
Especially knowing you.

1120
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,840
It's like this thing where it's
just like, oh, we're doing

1121
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:26,360
another UFO story, you know,
it's like 04000 people have have

1122
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,600
broke down this story.
All right?

1123
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:29,760
It's still cool.
But, you know, nothing really

1124
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,040
new or anything like that.
But this is just like a whole

1125
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,440
set of just new shit.
It's just like, oh, like, yeah.

1126
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,240
This is that new new.
Yeah, yeah.

1127
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:38,640
It's just like, holy shit, you
know?

1128
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,760
And then like I said, if there's
people that are still around,

1129
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,840
it's like you can actually get
first hand information, you

1130
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,480
know?
Right, we're never getting first

1131
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,240
hand information on the Nazi
bell.

1132
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,560
Yeah, like.
You know, this is like, there's

1133
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,120
no way.
And it's cool getting the

1134
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,360
information off like the
Discovery Channel or whatever,

1135
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,840
but it's like how many editors
hands has that gone through or

1136
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,240
whatever?
It's like, no, I like to just

1137
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,320
sit down with Frank and just
talk to Frank for, you know, an

1138
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,000
hour and just like, pick his
brain and be like, yo, what?

1139
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,000
What happened, man?
You know, Yeah.

1140
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,000
Yeah, man.
Nope.

1141
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:09,680
And that's the opportunity that
we have.

1142
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:14,000
And it just happens to be 30
minutes away from where Jake and

1143
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,800
I settled down.
And it's it's it's honestly a

1144
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,360
coincidence.
It really is.

1145
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:22,080
I, I did not move to this area
knowing that Elmwood was here.

1146
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:26,120
I didn't know about the stories.
I didn't know anything.

1147
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:30,000
I mean, I knew honestly the
closest thing here that I that I

1148
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,120
thought that we would have a
chance to go and research was

1149
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,640
the bees of Bray Rd. and that's
hours away.

1150
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,400
Maybe Rhinelander, where the
Hodag is?

1151
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,160
Lake monster near you too?
Honestly, man, I didn't know

1152
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,400
about that till I moved here
either.

1153
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:48,080
So, so it's, you know, it's.
Synchronicity and not a a

1154
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:53,040
coincidence.
Maybe, maybe, maybe I I know

1155
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,040
some people that would call this
a synchronicity.

1156
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:57,120
I'm more of a coincidence kind
of guy, but.

1157
01:07:57,720 --> 01:08:00,000
Yeah, I don't really believe in
coincidences to be honest with

1158
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:00,880
you, but.
No.

1159
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:04,880
No.
No, I've I've recently had some

1160
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,280
things come up where I I may be
in the same boat, but I've

1161
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,000
always been a coincidence kind
of guy.

1162
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:17,359
Anyways, I guess the the last
bit to really talk about is the

1163
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:19,319
UFO Days festival and we gotta
make it quick.

1164
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:22,880
We only got about 8 minutes,
yeah.

1165
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,800
Yeah, what can we expect,
Jeremy?

1166
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,520
What can we expect at this UFO
Days festival man?

1167
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:31,680
Well, I I have been told that we
are gonna be giving the official

1168
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:39,720
story of Elmwood to the people,
the patrons of UFO Days.

1169
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:43,760
We will be.
We're we're giving the official

1170
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:47,000
dudes who aren't from there are
giving the official story,

1171
01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:48,479
giving that up to.
Us.

1172
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,120
OK?
Yep, Yep.

1173
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:54,080
Amy is the president of the
festival, and the person who

1174
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,960
typically does it has not gotten
in touch with her this year.

1175
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,399
So I threw our name out there
and I sent her copy of the

1176
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:07,160
documentaries and she said,
yeah, you guys can have it.

1177
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,319
I hear there's going to be
another podcast there too.

1178
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:12,080
Are we going to have to have a
knife fight or what?

1179
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,600
Well, no.
That's what the wrestling ring

1180
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,200
is there.
Okay, cool.

1181
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,399
Yeah, that's funny.
You sent me the flyer for the

1182
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:19,520
wrestling ring.
I was like that.

1183
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,640
Yeah, man, there's gonna be
wrestling there.

1184
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:28,840
There's gonna be UFO burgers,
there's gonna be vendors, maybe,

1185
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,439
maybe there's gonna be parades.
There's gonna be all kinds of

1186
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:36,000
cool shit there.
This, this little small town in

1187
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,920
western Wisconsin is gonna, is
gonna come alive for three days,

1188
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:44,000
the 26th, 27th and 28th of July,
That's Friday, Saturday and

1189
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,720
Sunday.
I, I know we've been saying this

1190
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:53,800
quite a bit, but you'll see both
myself, Jake and Jeff, not both,

1191
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:58,760
but all of us at the UFO Days
festivals, all three days.

1192
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:05,240
We we have spots to talk at 2:30
on Friday and Sunday at the

1193
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,640
auditorium.
So please come on by one of

1194
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:13,720
those, it may be both of them,
who knows, is going to be us

1195
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,160
presenting the story of Elmwood
to the people who want to hear

1196
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:21,480
it.
And like I said at the end of

1197
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,840
the last two episodes on the
documentary series, that if you

1198
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:29,680
can come to the booth and tell
us what the title is of our

1199
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:34,240
100th episode, we'll give you
guys some stickers and we'll

1200
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,240
give us some.
Any kids in your group?

1201
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,520
Some temporary tattoos.
But other than that, I really

1202
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:41,920
don't have much to say.
Guys.

1203
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:43,560
Jake and I put the booth
together.

1204
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,040
When Jeremy said both of us, he
was talking about himself and

1205
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,320
his ego.
That's right.

1206
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,600
That's right.
Jake and I put the booth

1207
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,480
together the other day.
It looks pretty good.

1208
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:56,680
Everything looks good.
We we we did a dry run still.

1209
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:01,160
Might have a 8 foot tall
Sasquatch cut out.

1210
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,200
That yeah in.
Front of it if you're

1211
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,640
interested.
Yeah, we gotta, we gotta give

1212
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,240
him a name.
We should have a name.

1213
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,360
The Bigfoot contest.
Don't I fly in on Friday?

1214
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,200
I thought you fry in.
You better fly in on Thursday.

1215
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:15,680
If you fly in on Friday, you're
not gonna get.

1216
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,160
I think I fly in on Friday bud.
That sucks to suck, man.

1217
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,560
You're gonna have to walk from
Minneapolis.

1218
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:27,680
All right, Well, that's all we
got, guys.

1219
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,240
You guys good with that?
All right, Well, travelers, it's

1220
01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:34,680
been a pleasure.
I hope you guys enjoyed our very

1221
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,920
first iteration of our
Chronicles series.

1222
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:42,200
Who knows what the next topic
is, and how long it's gonna take

1223
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:46,920
to be able to pop up where we
can dedicate some real time and

1224
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:52,760
effort into a topic to classify
it as a Chronicles series.

1225
01:11:54,440 --> 01:11:57,200
But for now, we have Elmwood.
And we'll continue to have

1226
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,400
Elmwood for quite a while.
Until next time travellers,

1227
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,880
we'll see you in the next fork
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1228
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:04,720
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Goodbye.

1229
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:12,040
Bye bye.
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1230
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,200
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1248
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1249
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This line represents the time
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1250
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:30,560
to this point in time, somewhere
in the past, the timeline into

1251
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:39,400
this gadget creating an
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1252
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:42,880
near Einstein.