2022 Year End Review

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Hey guys.
This is Drew Schmidt from the

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random anything and you're
listening to the infinity Rabbit

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Hole.
Yeah.

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I've been listening to you guys
for a while.

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Now I got exposed you guys from
Asher's from Wednesday.

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We talk weird.
Keep up the great work, love it.

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Welcome back to yet.
Another half a steps of the

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infinite rabbit hole.
We just spent the last 15

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minutes according to Jeff did
not.

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Yeah, he was here but his audio
is not recording.

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This is this is par for the
course everybody.

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I not that the last 15 minutes
were like anything exciting, but

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just that we just have to throw
it away.

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Just kind of go away.
We could just play the audio

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without Jeff's input.
Yeah, pretty funny on this

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episode we'll have them recorded
afterwards and debit in just

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won't make any sense.
He'll just be talking random as

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we're asking them questions.
15-minute gag reel, at the end

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of the episode.
Yeah, there you go.

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Well, we are reviewing the 2022
year.

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Of the infinite Rabbit Hole.
This is going to be a terrible

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episode just letting you know.
Oh boy.

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So one thing that kind of got
brought up in the last 15

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minutes, I think that is
probably the only important

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thing to really put out during
you know this episode is we

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threw out an idea of changing up
the format of the show.

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We're going to put it in the
hands of the listeners and we're

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going to, we're going to run a
poll on Facebook.

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Do you guys like these these BS
and episodes Library?

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Just sit, sit down bullshit and
talk about random stuff or do

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you guys like the documentary
type episodes?

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Or do you want to hear a mixture
of the, both of them as a

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listener of the, if the rabbit
hole?

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I know that there's between
three and four hundred of you

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that, that listen to new episode
every week.

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Which is insane.
I don't know.

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I can't fathom. 300 people that
listen to the show.

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It's more than 200 people.
Oh yeah, I can fathom it.

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Well, if it, if I can't count on
my fingers and toes anyways.

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Yeah, head on over to Facebook
will post the pole.

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If we remember we're going to
try to remember kid, this is

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your job, okay?
Well I'm putting this one on

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you.
Ok.

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By the way, we have Jacob
Jeffrey and kid here with

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myself, Jeremy the host of the
infinite Rabbit Hole podcast.

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I don't know man.
I mean we talked about some

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pretty cool things in the last
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What did we talk about?
What else do we need to bring

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back?
We help you out.

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But so we were talking about a
lot of differences.

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Jeremie we were talking about
John would be what was our

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favorite moments of 2022.
And we went around the table and

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let's go ahead and do that
again.

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And let's go ahead and start
with kid kid what was your

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favorite moment of?
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Well, first off the radio voice
is fantastic.

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Jeff second I originally said
the Kappa, which I stand by

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because the Kappa was a
fantastic episode, but I really

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want to, I just want to mention,
I really did enjoy giant

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dinosaurs or fake as well.
That's one that I still talk

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about and still bring up and
tell everybody I know to go

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listen to because it's it just
blows people's minds and it's

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such a wild out there theory
that Yeah, um, that's my answer

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here, Jeff.
You gotta keep going.

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You can't just, yeah, well, you
know, I only got so much in me,

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bro.
We had dinosaurs dinosaurs was

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fake, was definitely a good one.
That was one of my favorites,

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the whole thing.
And what else did I say?

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I'm talking to Andy and Danny
Danon aqui.

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Shout out to those guys talking
about the Box Saga, that should

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is wild.
I feel like a lot of people

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probably just listen to that.
It didn't.

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Go look it up on a lot of it.
Just go.

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Look it up the box.
Agha.

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It'll blow your fucking mind.
Yeah, I listen to it while I was

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mowing my lawn and I couldn't
hear any of it.

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So there was bits and pieces of
it and like I don't I can't tell

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you anything about the box or
I'll have to re-listen to it.

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Jake.
Yes, what is a, what is your

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favorite memory or episode from
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Well, I had mentioned that I
really enjoyed having Denver

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Michaels on and we need to have
more of them especially with his

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new book coming out and we
should really strive to having

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more of the people that are
super active on our Facebook

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and, you know, active with the
show and bringing them back on

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and stuff.
Especially if we start doing

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more of these kind of
loosey-goosey, you know, winging

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it sort of episodes.
It'd be nice to have a couple of

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those people on and just being
like, hey, what's going on with

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you?
And kind of just updates of

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their lives and stuff.
I think that'd be pretty pretty

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sweet, especially especially
Denver Michaels, and you had

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mentioned Carter.
Bush art because both of those

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guys, Is just really a lot of
cool interesting stuff going on

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with them and the topics that
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And as far as what I really
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the opportunity to be on a
network.

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I kind of made a joke about
getting fired, but that we went

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from no network to on a network
to fired from the network, all

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in one year and it was a lot of
work, but I really enjoyed it

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and it gave me Sense of purpose
with the show because we went

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from like just putting a
tremendous amount of work into

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it and not seeing it really a
dime from it to actually making

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some kind of money from it.
And then we're kind of, I feel

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like we're in this slump because
we just that's over.

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Now again and it's like, you
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science has no motivation
anymore.

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Yeah but it was nice to get a
taste of that and see You know

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what all that's about.
And especially since we had

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talked about in the very
beginning of the show, trying to

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make our own network with the
people that are the podcast we

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associated with, and that didn't
go anywhere, but that is

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something still we could strive
for in the future and especially

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now that we know the amount of
work that goes into it and it

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would just be who heads that,
you know, make sure everyone's

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on a time schedule and all kinds
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That a product is getting
produced. oost, but I'm but I

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liked You know, having that
moment so that we could see in

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the future.
What is that look like for us?

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Because had we never said, yes,
or they had never offered or you

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know, we had never gotten the
shoutout.

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It just woo.
It's kind of still be stuck in

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this like oh maybe one day is
sort of stuff and you know we

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gave it a shot and not because
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Is it not working out anymore?
So we didn't do anything to end

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it.
Didn't say all this too much

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work.
We can't do it or whatever it

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is, you know, the whole thing.
Just kind of collapsed from the

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inside out.
No fault of our own, but you

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know, that was my favorite part
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experience something new like
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And then who knows, who knows
where we'll be at later on, you

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know?
Speaking of that.

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I, you know, shout out to Mark,
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because I think, you know, we're
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it's not the same kind of
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He doesn't operate.
The same way that paranormal

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Network operates, you know
there's not the same level of

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you know posting on YouTube and
like the whole thing.

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But there is that Community
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be tapping into that Community.
Are we still on that?

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Yeah really.
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How did I mean cool?
You know what I mean is like

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again, it's not the same kind of
networks when I came here, you

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know, it doesn't operate the
same but there is that community

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and there is that Source of
people guests, Pete authors, you

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know, all that kind of stuff as
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So let's not forget about that.
Lets go into 2023, maybe utilize

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that resource more, you know, I,
you know, I like the idea of

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having more of these episodes
where we just kind of BS, but at

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the same time, man, like you
know, we built the, the infinite

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Rabbit Hole to do these
documentary type episodes and

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that's what I love doing.
So, you know, I think that what

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we should do is just Do whatever
the person who's responsible for

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the episode or that night just
do what they want to do.

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You know, if you know it's let's
just say like it's Jake's week,

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right?
Jake goes, well, I can either do

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research on on Manus or I can,
you know, just create some, some

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sort of dialogue create a BS
episode where it is bullshit.

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But bring topics to talk about,
you know, saying well I just put

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the pole up on Facebook.
I know you gave It to Ken's are.

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But I took the the reins from
her because I never done one

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before.
Oh well.

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All right.
Well, it's a I said, all right

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y'all, what sort of pod cast set
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Would you like to see / here in
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And I have one for old-school
documentary episodes and then

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new chilled-out format and then
mixture of the two.

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I voted on mixture of the two.
So ah, so far that plan is in

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place.
But yeah, I think you know, if

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we just kind of mix the flavor
in of the host, that's that's

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kind of got the rains that day.
I think we'll get a good mixture

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of stuff.
Yeah, I'm going to cop out so

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hard on my episodes.
I can't wait.

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Definitely yes yes and I could
be a host.

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Not do any research man.
Let's go because you know I love

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doing the research, I love
doing.

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Users, I love presenting it and
getting everybody's point of

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view on a subject or topic,
right?

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I still have to do communion
part 2.

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I'm just dying to do it because
it's such a wild story and I

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know you guys probably think
it's all bullshit.

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Oh yeah, we're fine.
So hard to be great, which is

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fantastic.
Speaking of guests, we do have

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an update from one of the
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It was Gosh.
I had it.

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I had it and it just went away
the storming Area 51 with Brian

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Marina.
Yeah, that's out.

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Yeah, watch it.
Where, where is it out on?

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I watched it on Amazon Prime.
I Radford it free.

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Knows how was it, man?
It was different than what I

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expected.
I was kind of Honestly, I want

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him back on so I can ask him
questions because some of it was

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somewhat unbelievable.
And I don't mean the craziness

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of the people that he
interviewed, but his producer

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was a complete, a whole and I
want to know if that was

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scripted and that was supposed
to be in there for added drama,

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or if that person is really that
much of a d-bag in real life,

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like it was crazy.
He was such an angry person and

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I was like, man.
And then like they pick him up

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from the airport.
I think it was at the producer,

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they pick him up from the
airport and they left his bag on

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the curb and he's just as buddy
that came along for the ride.

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I don't know.
I think he already paid.

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Are you sure that was just his
buddy who came along for the

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ride?
They picked up and he's like

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Yeah, that's fine.
And everybody gets on the bus

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and then they're like, two hours
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He's like, where's my bag?
And everyone's like yeah, we

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thought we've grabbed it.
What I don't understand about

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working out.
What I don't understand about

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that scene and seems like that
is like the cameraman saw it

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because you saw on camera.
So that your wait a minute, not

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say, who's really the camera.
Guys.

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If that really, I left the
camera guys, really thick.

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Yeah, what an asshole?
Yeah, there was, it was scenes

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like that.
Yeah.

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That's right.
It was his buddy and he was

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freaking out the whole time
until his friend that he was

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supposed to be in Vegas, you
know, happen to get a ride to

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Area 51.
But in the the producer, was

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that guy right in the beginning,
the the bigger, dude, but I was

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just like, I don't know.
I saw the like those meltdown

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moments and I was like, I have
to ask him like, if this was

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that real or is that just, you
know, BS, just an add some, some

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flavor to the the show because
it was, you know, Some of the

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people he was interviewing,
we're like, kind of out there,

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but it wasn't any sort of like
crazy dramatic stuff.

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Like no one was like setting
themselves on fire like you'd

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expect to see it like burning
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You know, I want I want to talk
to the chick who said her dad

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was abducted by aliens in that
movie.

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She seemed like she would be an
interesting conversation.

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All right.
Yeah, chick from that movie, if

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you're listening, hit us up.
Yep.

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We want you.
That would be very entertaining

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conversation.
I feel ya if only we knew

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somebody who could reach out to
Brian working on getting back on

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the show, if only if only if
only we could just send him an

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Instagram you know, something or
another and just say hey come

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back, one of us runs an
Instagram for this podcast and

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seeing as how we are pretty
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I'm sure if whoever that was
reached out to Brian, Via that

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Instagram account he would
probably respond.

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I don't do shit on this year and
the world may never know.

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Then yes, it's a mystery, you
know, one of my favorite guests

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but I actually really loved
having on and I think it was

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just the perfect topic for for
that particular guest was

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Asher's.
I thought she brought a lot of

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really good stuff today.
Injured cold series and a lot of

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really good laughing points like
flaps.

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I mean, come on, we still talk
about flaps still sure flaps

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flaps flaps, should I send her
another message and say flaps

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from the gang?
Yeah sure.

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She'll understand shoulders.
And we also had our first guests

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from overseas.
We had Adam from.

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He's cool.
Yeah, when we get him back on

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should I reach out?
Yes.

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Yes.
Adams, a cool guy.

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Tales from the Animal Kingdom.
Adam.

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That's right.
To, for some, for some to stay

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up.
Yeah.

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For to the same clock in the
morning.

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Yeah.
Ty are the shrieking Woods.

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That's what it was.
Something like that.

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Yeah, Adam, I know you're
listening, man.

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Hit us up.
He doesn't listen to the show.

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The show is boring.
I think he does he said he'd

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well I mean you say that when
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that you know it just thrown a
man I'll go on I'll go on shadow

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man right now and tell him I
never listened to it.

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I didn't know this was show you
like Jeff's.

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Like yeah I want you to meet my
buddy and I'm like Mike who do

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funny That thing away.
I can't even can't shoot.

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That is glad it's blurred out.
Yeah, yeah.

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I want to see that.
I'm married.

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There's some of our water.
You guys hold it down, without

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me.
If you can't, I'll be right

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back.
Oh man, what will we do?

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Oh no, he's gone.
He's gone.

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It's collapsing.
This podcast is come to an end.

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Kidding.
Anyway, I sent I sent Brian a a

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message.
I said, hey man, when can we get

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you back on to debrief this
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See things are happening here in
the infant arrival.

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That's right.
We're reaching out to famous

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comedians on.
Yeah.

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On Instagram with the not just
the hope but the knowledge that

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they will see it at some point.
I think you've reached out to me

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personally to ask me to rate his
movie too.

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So, I mean, I could have done
it.

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I did it.
I went on IMDb.

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And why did?
Yeah, let's talk about the The

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rotation of hosts that we had
for those that may not be up to

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date yet.
Wes was a part of the show for a

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little while and now he's not
again, I wish you the best.

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Some things just don't work, you
know.

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You can't put two puzzle pieces
that don't connect together.

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They're just doesn't work.
Anyways I'll throw some out

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there that I threw out before
when we actually didn't record

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when we were recording boys.
Back from getting water

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everybody.
Yeah, I'm back.

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Sorry and MK.
Ultra Series.

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MK project series.
We were talking about future

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episode ideas.
That's what it was.

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Hmm.
See that?

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That requires a lot of research
though.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, free yes, free.

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He's like, well, maybe I don't
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What are we going to talk about
the Philadelphia?

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Experiment, Philadelphia
Experiment, would be something

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we should talk about.
We should definitely do it

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because I wanna hear about the
people that got stuck on walls

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and stuff.
Yeah.

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So the Cloverfield Paradox, if
anybody's ever Seen the movie,

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The Cloverfield, paradoxes and
Netflix exclusive movie, that is

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Loosely based on the happenings
of the Philadelphia Experiment.

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Going to look that up.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, obviously,

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they went from a naval ship in
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sort of like ISS station in
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Paradox.
But as Jake was referring to

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When they were conducting, The
Philadelphia Experiment, they

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teleported, we'll just, you
know, talk about this in the

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most Vegas sense, because we do
need insides became outside.

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So their outsides became
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Well, no, they just became one
with the like walls in the

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pipes, the ship and, and such,
and it's the same same thing in

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the Cloverfield Paradox, that
that's what happens in the

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Cloverfield Paradox.
As they're M dimensions.

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Nice or parallel worlds.
You parallel universes.

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Not necessarily Dimensions.
Nice.

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So it's a good movie.
I like the Clover Field movies.

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I wish they would do more.
I like that.

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They're all Loosely tied
together.

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I don't think I've seen a single
one, really?

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Yeah.
As I didn't know what they were

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and I was like, you know, Clover
Field is one of my favorite

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movies.
I love that movie, people hate

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that fucking, is that, is that
the found film one?

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Yeah, I was in that one was
okay, in my opinion.

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It was a terrible but it wasn't.
It wasn't the greatest movie

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either.
I love it.

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Love that movie.
And then, you know, do you had

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like Cloverfield Lane?
Or Cloverfield way something

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along those lines.
I'm pretty sure I haven't seen

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any of them because I wasn't a
fan of the Cloverfield.

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Well, just stop everything.
If you don't like Cloverfield

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that, no worries because the
other two movies are completely

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different.
I mean, if you watch these

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movies separately and didn't
know the title, you would have

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no idea that these were tied
together in any way.

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Is it the shaky film version of
stuff, though?

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Like the shaky camera like
you're doing just for moving

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stuff.
The first movie.

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So I'm not a fan of found film
movies either like Blair Witch,

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I did not like that.
Very much.

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Well I again I'm not a huge fan
of it either, but I love

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Cloverfield like I don't go out
and buy movies very often but I

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thought that love it.
It's what JJ Abrams was trying

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to do with that movie was create
the American Godzilla, that was

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his, his idea behind the whole
thing.

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And then he created like this
long universe that was Loosely

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tied together.
I don't know.

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It's really hard to explain
because none of these movies

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follow a story line that
connects but there's very

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slight.
Details that go along with each

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movie, especially like at the
end of Cloverfield Lane, you

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kind of see where it connects to
the to a Clover Field and

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Cloverfield paradox.
If I remember correctly,

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somewhere near the end, you also
see the monster from

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Cloverfield.
Hmm.

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Yeah it's there all three
completely different movies.

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You can watch the other two and
never see Cloverfield and still

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get entertained.
I think that some of the best

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buy one of the best movies is
that Cloverfield Lane.

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It's I like the psychology like
okay, so we were talking about

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things that we want to do inside
the infinite rabbit hole.

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Throughout the next next year
and of course you know we want

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to get the listeners pointed
point of view or recommendations

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as well.
We want to know what you guys

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want to hear but when it comes
from the cast, what do we want

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to do in 2023?
I had said that, you know, I've

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been having I can't stop
watching these documentaries or

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movies, on the psychology of
serial killers, just super

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interesting stuff.
Just that the way that, you

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know, a lot of these People have
parallels when it comes to their

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youth, and how how their
relationship with their mothers.

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Seems seems to be a traumatic
connection to the way that they

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grow up as adults.
And not all of them, you know,

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I'm not tying all serial killers
instead but a good chunk of them

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all had real issues with like a
absolutely terrible mother

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figure and I like the psychology
behind it.

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I like you know what is wrong
with these people?

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All to make them want to go out
and just randomly kill, you

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know, a half dozen to a dozen
people.

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I mean, like Dahmer, man.
I just it's absolutely nuts.

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I would love to dive into it and
just kind of try to understand

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it more.
So same question you guys, what

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do you guys want to want to do?
That's kind of outside.

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The norm of the infinite rabbit
hole that you'd like to see US

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expand into a little bit so over
Christmas.

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I got I was hanging out with
people.

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Of course, I was talking about
the podcast.

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I was wearing one of our shirts.
Everybody wanted to know what it

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was.
So nice telling everybody about

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the podcast.
And one thing that I kept get at

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getting asked by multiple
different people was, do you

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guys talk about hauntings?
Do you guys talk about ghosts

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that sort of stuff, and it kind
of dawned on me that we've kind

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of touched on the topic?
But we haven't gotten too far

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into the topic.
So, I might, I think, Think I

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want to try and get bring that
onto the show a bit more

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hauntings and ghosts and stuff
and you responded against know

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because they're too fake.
Well, he'll situation.

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But that doesn't mean our
listeners.

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Don't want to hear it.
Is your thing, kid start,

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getting to these Bigfoot groups
and paranormal groups on

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Facebook and finding people
didn't want to come on.

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Two shows, I'm gonna reach out
to Jason again and see if he's

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got anybody who would do to talk
to.

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Yes.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking

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of doing.
Actually.

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Yeah, that's that's the thing
that you could bring to the show

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is, you know, shit, Jake.
One of the things we were

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supposed to do is was personal
experiences with the strange and

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the unknown.
It's true.

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Even if we think that it's
completely ridiculous and

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stupid, I don't think they're
all ridiculous and stupid.

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I think most of them are most.
Yeah, if there's red circles

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involved in Zagreb Centre.
Hey, oh yes, I'm just To listen

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up here worried.
Whether I think you're a

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wackadoo or not is another
question, but I'm sorry.

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Yeah, you tell him after you've
taken up on our, your tell me

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your story and then I'll tell
you if your Wackadoo or not.

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So in the most loving way
possible.

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So Jeffrey.
Same question, man.

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I know you were just talking
about the MK Ultra stuff.

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What would you like to see us?
Kind of expand into Honestly,

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man, I'd like to, I'd like to
get more people on the show more

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guests on the show that know,
more about stuff, you know.

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Because like sure, you know, I
could do some research or you

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could do some research into
something, for a couple of

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weeks, right?
We can get like a good idea.

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Find some good info but there's
people that do like research on

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one particular topic for years,
right?

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And I like to get those people.
I remember we have Matt on and

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Matt was telling us about the
star Forts and yeah,

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presentation that was like over.
A hundred slides deep, you know,

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how do you know he must have
spent?

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Who knows how many hours just on
that.

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So it's like, I'd like to get
more of that on where it's like,

452
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:21,000
people who have really done the
work to give us like a good, not

453
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,900
just a good Deep dive but like
they've already thought about

454
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:27,000
how to express it.
And explain it to people who

455
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,400
don't know what you're talking
about, you know, Jen.

456
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,900
I mean we've had a couple of
those, you know, that that was a

457
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,600
good, really good episode.
I was I'm gonna be honest with

458
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,200
you.
That was Of the episodes where I

459
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,700
was not expecting shit, because
I was going in, I'm like, all

460
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,500
right, Jeff, whatever, you know,
it's better for us is a great

461
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:45,900
episode.
That if anybody's skipped that

462
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:48,900
episode, I highly recommend you
go back and listen to that.

463
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,100
That was a really, really good
episode.

464
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:56,500
Another, another person that we
had on was rizz, I was just

465
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:59,200
going to say, he was a really
cool guest and he'd be cool to

466
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,700
bring back onto.
Yeah, he's already said that.

467
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:05,600
He'll come back on.
I would, I would definitely To,

468
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,800
but I want to, I want to dissect
his thoughts on particular.

469
00:28:10,300 --> 00:28:12,700
Things associated with the
simulation Theory.

470
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,000
Like, I don't want to just go in
and just be like, all right man.

471
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,100
Talk simulation Theory.
And just, you know, Let it go.

472
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:20,400
I want to have a conversation
with the guy, you know, and I

473
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,800
want to be able to hold it so
that that's kind of my goal when

474
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,400
it goes when it comes to Riza, I
don't want to go into the

475
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,700
conversation like an idiot.
I want to actually go in and

476
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,500
have a conversation with guy
because he's dude smart man,

477
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:35,400
super smart.
Art.

478
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,200
But yeah.
Jeff I think get smorc.

479
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:39,400
Smorc guests on here that knows
stuff.

480
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:45,000
Hell yeah dude.
All right Jake same question.

481
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:50,700
Hey buddy, bear with us while we
take this quick break.

482
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:59,300
Well, Jeff took mine off, but
okay.

483
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:03,600
So wow.
Last week, I think, and I

484
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,600
emailed back and said, hey after
the the holidays, we'll set

485
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:12,200
something up, but I got emailed
by David Lawrence has publicists

486
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:14,900
David.
Lawrence is a author and he

487
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:19,400
wrote a book called.
Are we are we really biochemical

488
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,500
robots?
Sam Harris, has Crusade against

489
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:27,200
Free Will and basically, he
talks about He's anti,

490
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,200
determinism anti anti Free Will
so Sam Harris.

491
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,500
Apparently rips on the idea of
Free Will.

492
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:40,600
And so he was talking about you
know, in this book The the

493
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:46,100
counter to that that Free Will
does exist and I don't know.

494
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:50,400
I looked up at one point,
there's a comedian.

495
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,600
I'm probably going to miss
pronounce his last name but

496
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:55,500
Bobcat gold, gold.
Wait.

497
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,400
Yeah, you know, the he was in
like the Scrooged movies got

498
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,700
that really, you know,
interesting voice and stuff.

499
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:04,400
Pretty, you know, you could just
hear his voice Mega, that's

500
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,400
Bobcat, but he he's actually
really big in a Bigfoot and he

501
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:15,000
produced a Bigfoot film.
And and I watched it and I kind

502
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:21,600
of struck me that there's
probably a lot of celebrities or

503
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,700
just people that are well known
that are really big. into

504
00:30:25,700 --> 00:30:31,000
cryptozoology or have their own
shared experiences and you know

505
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:36,300
it kind of on board with all of
us with the exception of Ken's

506
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:40,900
are talking about the Kappa but
I'm sure she'll agree that it

507
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:45,400
seems to be our most memorable
things of the last year was when

508
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,000
we had someone other than us on
the show to talk to us about

509
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,900
something whether they were a
guest for a topic or they were

510
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,800
you know talking about their
book or their field research or

511
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,000
whatever it is.
And if we're going to go forward

512
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
with this and we're going to
continue doing this, you know,

513
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,800
especially if the idea is to
kind of slow down a little bit

514
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,800
on the documentary style
episodes.

515
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,100
I'd like that time to not just
be filled with, you know, be

516
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:14,100
essing and chit chat about
what's going on our lives and

517
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,600
all that sort of stuff, although
some of that you should be

518
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,200
warranted and, you know, is
necessary, but I'd like us to

519
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,600
fill that time with people's
experiences, even if they sound

520
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,400
like, Is or I, you know, find
more people that have particular

521
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,600
fields of research that are very
interesting even if it's

522
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,200
multiple people that all cover
simulation Theory but they have

523
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,400
different theories around the
simulation Theory, right?

524
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:45,600
So I mean I think all that stuff
has a place and we should expand

525
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,500
more on that to give the
listeners a little bit of a

526
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:53,200
mix-up, but also to hear more
than just, you know, because we

527
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,900
could throw a topic in there.
That you know, I could jump out

528
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:03,100
of my bounds and just or my
bubble and say I'm going to do a

529
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:08,300
paranormal you know Ghost type
whatever episode but you're

530
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:13,600
still going to hear my worldview
and my experiences behind that

531
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,200
research.
So you're not going to hear

532
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,400
anything different, even?
If it's a completely separate

533
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,700
topic from what I'm usually
covering, right?

534
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,600
But having some outside force
come in.

535
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:30,600
To explain this in their varying
perspective, I think is would be

536
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,000
very interesting and it's
something that we should really

537
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:40,000
try to do more of.
So I have a secret, I don't like

538
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,600
secrets secrets, don't make
friends, so there's spit it out.

539
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:46,800
Well, I'm going to, I'm going to
say like the biggest.

540
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:49,700
I don't know how I fucked it up,
but I fucked it up somehow.

541
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,600
I had a guest.
That I was talking to the

542
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:01,800
publicist associated with this
guest and like we were just

543
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,600
about, I was waiting for them to
confirm confirm a date and time

544
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,500
for us to come on.
And I was just gonna be like,

545
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,100
all right, whatever episode
we're doing today, we're

546
00:33:09,100 --> 00:33:12,300
dropping it because this
happening and I just never heard

547
00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:14,200
back.
I emailed them back like three

548
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,500
or four times and I sound like a
little begging.

549
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,200
You better call them then Jeff.
I don't think you're, I don't

550
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,600
think you would have Liked it,
but I think you would have

551
00:33:23,608 --> 00:33:29,100
jumped on anyways.
But Tom DeLonge almost had Tom

552
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:32,300
DeLonge from Blink 182 on the
show.

553
00:33:33,100 --> 00:33:35,800
Millions guy, right?
That would have been so cool.

554
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,800
Yeah, this was about probably in
the beginning of the year.

555
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:43,700
I was I was talking to the
Publishers because he has, I

556
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:45,800
don't know if you call it like
an organization or whatnot, but

557
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,500
it's called two stars and it's
his research into or it's him

558
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:53,800
and his groups Research into The
UFO phenomenon.

559
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,900
And I mean there's a lot of
people that are associated with

560
00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:59,900
to the stars and is not just
home too long but I mean come on

561
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:05,900
Tom Tom it's Tom DeLonge like
Yeah, so that's that's where I

562
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,300
tried.
I tried to give them on to talk

563
00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:11,600
about to the stars and kind of
spread that that word out a

564
00:34:11,607 --> 00:34:14,100
little bit.
And for those that don't know,

565
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:19,900
Tom DeLonge is also an author of
some books on UFOs.

566
00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:21,900
I'm going to get those names
right now.

567
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,900
While he's doing that though, I
have a question for you guys.

568
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:32,000
So what was your most fun and
least fund research topic of

569
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,900
this year?
Most fun least one every year.

570
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:44,199
Jeff didn't do research.
He just had guests and he read

571
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,300
off of he did research for the
dinosaurs didn't have found

572
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,300
phrase.
What was your most fun episode

573
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:53,600
to present it?
What was your Least favorite

574
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,100
episode to present.
There you go.

575
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:02,400
Yeah, better question.
Take that um-hmm and I don't

576
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,800
know what I presented.
Well, I got an answer.

577
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,800
What do you got?
I had so much fun doing the

578
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:14,000
Disney episode, because I
learned a lot out of that, but

579
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,900
if I'm being honest, I
absolutely hated doing mermaids.

580
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:22,900
Oh, there's a reason for it
though, because that was like,

581
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:26,300
my very first episode, where I
present it on the podcast.

582
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:33,000
And you were so nervous,
ridiculously nervous, I took, I

583
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,900
don't even know how long to
actually build that presentation

584
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:40,700
up.
And like I was going back and

585
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:43,400
listening to different episodes
throughout the year that

586
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200
involved me.
And you can hear my progress

587
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,400
throughout the year, be getting
better behind the bike and more

588
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,500
comfortable, speaking and
everything and it's a wild thing

589
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,200
to look back at.
And because of that, I hated

590
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,500
doing mermaids.
And the more I do this, the more

591
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,300
fun it becomes Disney was a lot
of fun for me.

592
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:07,400
Excited for my next topic that
comes out in the New Year, Man,

593
00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:14,300
1, my probably the one I had the
most fun with is the Great Space

594
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:17,600
debate to be honest with you.
And the reason for that.

595
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:23,700
Yeah, the reason for that is
because I take a weird Bit of

596
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:30,800
joy out of people thinking that
I'm offended because like during

597
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:35,000
and after that, you know, you
guys hit me up like Jeremy hit

598
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,800
me up, you know he's like you
know so you know we didn't

599
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,400
fucking what.
I don't know what you said but

600
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,700
it was something like hope we
did.

601
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,100
So like I still love you man.
You know?

602
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:45,900
Yeah.
It sounds of crying.

603
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,700
You're gonna make me cry.
It's funny to me just because,

604
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,000
you know, I don't know, it's fun
and that hold the bait.

605
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Still fun to me.
No matter what I believe or

606
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,500
don't believe the fact that that
people can't take the time to

607
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:03,100
understand a model that they
immediately debunked.

608
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:05,900
Even if I don't believe it, it's
just the fact that people don't

609
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:08,200
understand what they're saying
is bullshit.

610
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:10,200
You know what I mean?
And I'm saying it's bullshit

611
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,800
like to me that I take it joy
out of that as well.

612
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:19,100
So it's like it's fun man.
So I'll, I'll kind of tweak the

613
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,500
answer a little bit and I'm
going to expand it to kind of

614
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,400
the hole.
Whole thing because this year

615
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,300
was a was a good year for me.
I cover topics that I found,

616
00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:33,400
really interesting.
So I didn't really have a bad

617
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,800
episode in my mind that I
regretted doing.

618
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,100
But my absolute favorite episode
that I've ever done.

619
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:41,400
Was the Kelly.
Green manip, sewed.

620
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:51,600
Like the music for that episode
that just yes it's just such a

621
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,000
good story.
And it's one of those urban

622
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:02,200
legend alien alien stories that
just that's perfect.

623
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:06,700
It's so out there but at the
same time, you have this whole

624
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:10,100
family who had this shared
experience.

625
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:18,100
And it's I'll tell you right
now, the absolute worst episode

626
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:20,000
that, I think we ever did was
the ritual review.

627
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,400
That I liked it.
I hated it.

628
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:28,200
Yeah, I like that episode to not
only did I hate that episode but

629
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,800
that episode that night we
recorded that episode was a

630
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,700
night that caused a lot of
Mayhem in my in my life.

631
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:39,600
So it was like there was a vent
sleeve it leading up to that

632
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,600
moment.
I'm sure course it wasn't.

633
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,800
It wasn't moment that caused it.
It was just that moment

634
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,100
associated with all that night
like that it was the fuck that

635
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,500
might.
So like yeah not a fan.

636
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,800
Terrible episode 2.
Her family, terrible memories

637
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,400
bad energy.
All of Jeff's.

638
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Best friends killed it
themselves.

639
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:58,900
All at once.
Crazy.

640
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,100
Yeah and some crazy like
Hale-Bopp Comet Cult thing.

641
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:05,300
Yeah.
And he's just like he blamed us

642
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,900
on the podcast.
He's like if it wasn't for this

643
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:10,900
episode I would have been with
them but here I am.

644
00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:14,500
Left Left Behind wasn't even mad
that they were gone.

645
00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:16,000
I was just mad that I didn't go
to.

646
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:23,900
That's right, dark too.
Way from now on.

647
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,000
Um anyways, I want to go climb
on ya.

648
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,900
I want to go find good.
All right, my favorite was drop

649
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:37,500
bears.
My least favorite was Giants.

650
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,800
See that's so that doesn't make
sense to me because you want to

651
00:39:41,808 --> 00:39:44,600
do more giants?
Like whoa, can you explain?

652
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:50,000
Yeah, I mean, I think I kind of
broached the subject on probably

653
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,100
the last episode or whatever.
Our last kind of round robin

654
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:58,100
episode was, but it was just so
much work.

655
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,600
It distracted from how cool it
was for me because it's cool to

656
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:08,500
like look up stuff and, you
know, not spend weeks on it or

657
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:11,500
it's just a tremendous amount of
time or feeling super lost and,

658
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:13,500
you know, lost in the sauce.
How do I want to present this

659
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,000
sort of thing?
Plus, I had the added pressure

660
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:22,600
of having a guest on for myself,
for the first time Not just

661
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:28,400
where I'm the one prompting, the
questions and the conversation

662
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,100
and stuff.
I'm not good at that.

663
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:33,500
So it was a little bit of
nervousness, but mostly just

664
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:38,200
overwhelmed at the amount of
things I had to do for that,

665
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,800
that kind of pulled away from
how much I enjoy the topic.

666
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:45,500
I still enjoy the topic and you
know, the next one's I do.

667
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:49,500
I might have a guest on like,
I'd like to reach out to Adam.

668
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:51,300
You know, if we're doing an
England.

669
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,500
Rusev type 1.
Right now I'd be cool or have a

670
00:40:55,500 --> 00:41:00,000
guest on from that region or
whatever it is, but it was just

671
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,000
so much work and I didn't know
really where to get started

672
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,600
stuff versus drop bears which
had a little bit of lore, a

673
00:41:07,607 --> 00:41:12,300
little bit of history and
paleontology in there and then

674
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:17,600
it you know, even had some
modern-day cryptozoology which

675
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,300
is really more along the lines
of what cryptozoology actually

676
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:23,500
is.
Where we were talking about

677
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:29,000
thing that died out very
recently.

678
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:33,200
And I doubt is here in quotes
because people are still seeing

679
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,200
it stuff.
So I was able to really explore

680
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,800
all the different Avenues of
that specific Cryptid.

681
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,200
And now when I was was really
cool to me and I really liked it

682
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:51,100
but also because it wasn't a
gargantuan project to try to

683
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Alright.
How do I take all of this

684
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,800
information and then make it my
own?

685
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,500
You're right because we can't
copyright stuff unless you know

686
00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:03,600
who cares if we're reading a
Declassified document you know

687
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:07,900
you know I don't we don't care
about that but I can't take

688
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:11,200
every article I read and just
you know, word for word, read it

689
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,800
and it's Lots, it's a quote.
But I didn't know how to go

690
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,700
about doing all that stuff, and
it was my first time doing that.

691
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:20,900
And so it was really daunting
for me.

692
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:26,300
And so, Really wasn't a lot of
fun, although the the topic is

693
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:31,300
cool and itself, but of course
having Denver Michaels on there

694
00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:34,400
and absolute rock star who has
an incredible amount of

695
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,000
information because he wrote a
whole dang book on it which we

696
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,800
barely scratched the surface of
that to, you know, he was able

697
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,000
to really fill in a lot of gaps
and stuff and just speak from

698
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,400
his wealth of Knowledge from the
research.

699
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,800
He's done for that book that he
wrote.

700
00:42:50,100 --> 00:42:54,500
So it was It ended up being a
good episode.

701
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:59,600
Although, just the amount of
stuff I had to do for it in the

702
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,900
background.
It was somewhat overwhelming.

703
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,700
Well, look at the look at the
span of the topic, its

704
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:09,900
worldwide, you know, it's like
crosses.

705
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:15,100
Millennia.
You know, it's funny too because

706
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:20,200
prior to that prior to actually
busting into the research and

707
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:25,400
finding out about Giants, I knew
that there was a couple Mounds,

708
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,400
you know, with bones in them
that past presidents have talked

709
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,900
about and stuff from just our
conversations on the show things

710
00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:35,200
that Jeff is talked about Jeff
is really knowledgeable on the

711
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,300
topic.
And, you know, I picked up a lot

712
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:40,800
of stuff from Jeff, you know, my
own beliefs in.

713
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,100
Thing.
So my belief that the Nephilim

714
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:48,800
existed at some point maybe they
still did at post-flood, you

715
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,700
know, whatever it was.
But then actually getting into

716
00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:57,000
the evidence behind that.
That's when I saw the scope of

717
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:02,500
how insanely big this thing is.
And then that's when the, the

718
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:07,400
ideas came of like, oh, I should
do a trolls episode or an ogres

719
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,000
episode or something like that
because I'll bet you that some

720
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,600
of that That ancient folklore
and those stories and stuff,

721
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,900
wasn't just like their version
of The Boogeyman.

722
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,500
I can almost guarantee you that
this had something to do

723
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:23,100
historically with giants
roaming, those areas and that's

724
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:26,100
what they call them and then
over the, you know, thousands of

725
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:30,300
years or whatever of those
people being somebody inhabiting

726
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,300
those areas.
A lot of these stories have

727
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:38,100
devolved into just, you know,
casual folklore where it had

728
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:41,100
some sort of deep historical
significance.

729
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:44,700
Like No crap.
If you go in the woods, if your

730
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,000
kids go in the woods, they're
going to be eaten here by the

731
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,600
six-fingered Giants that live
there, right?

732
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:54,100
And then the you know you get
into all these sorts of things

733
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:59,100
of like people that think that
they can see was it petrified

734
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,900
human remains in like mountain
ranges and things like that.

735
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:04,900
Why are these rocks shaped like
people?

736
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:07,500
And some of that has to do with
the way our brain works.

737
00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:12,100
You know the way that we as when
we were ancient Ian's, you know,

738
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:15,600
you were your brain was
programmed to look for faces in

739
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,500
the trees because it might be a
Jaguar that was going to jump

740
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:20,700
out of the tree and eat you,
right?

741
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:25,800
So you're programmed to see
faces and and objects that you

742
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,400
recognized in areas where they
actually isn't, but that's just,

743
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,900
you know, and that's why you see
the red circles everywhere.

744
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:37,700
But it's just another play off
of that original Giants topic.

745
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:41,200
So It Go all different
directions with this.

746
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:45,800
Which I am excited about to
because I really do enjoy

747
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,100
history and folklore and things
like that.

748
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:53,100
So but just that that very first
one just kind of kick it, open

749
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:57,100
the door and taking that step in
and I'm like, oh my goodness,

750
00:45:57,100 --> 00:46:00,600
this is a lot that I was
unexpected.

751
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,100
I wasn't expecting.
And then I had the added

752
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:06,300
pressure of well.
Now we're bringing a guest on so

753
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:09,000
I don't want to waste his time,
you know?

754
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,800
And so it was just like, oh,
Real.

755
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:13,600
It was really rough.
I didn't enjoy it.

756
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,300
I feel that with the the weather
modification stuff.

757
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,100
No, that's just so it's, there's
so much info that you almost

758
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:25,800
don't even know.
I remember the doing the first

759
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,900
one and this wasn't this year,
but we did do part two this

760
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:31,000
year, so I guess it's relevant,
you know?

761
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:35,100
You blew with his mind with
those things you do sitting down

762
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:38,500
to start off, you know, and
being like how do I how do you

763
00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:41,700
like bridge the gap between Just
thinking it's complete

764
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:46,800
conspiracy to like, at least
being like, okay, there is some

765
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:49,900
level of this happening, right?
Like how do you do that?

766
00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:53,600
And that's hard man, and it's
the same with Giants.

767
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,500
Dude, there's so much
information that how do you

768
00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:59,000
bridge the gap from it just
being completely ridiculous to

769
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,700
being like, okay, wait a minute,
there might actually be

770
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:02,900
something here, you know.
Yeah.

771
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:06,900
And actually you know because I
can read it and be like okay

772
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:11,400
well this this is way more of a
reality that it Spira, see, for

773
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:16,000
me now but how do I present that
in a way that the listeners will

774
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,500
have an opportunity to believe
the same as I do, right?

775
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,300
Or to see the same information
without copywriting without, you

776
00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:28,700
know, mudding it too badly or
whatever, it is like because you

777
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:31,500
did a great job, you know, you
brought in patents and all sorts

778
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:35,300
of stuff and you were able to
take us, you know, sitting

779
00:47:35,300 --> 00:47:38,300
outside of your bubble from this
realm of like this is complacent

780
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,600
complete horse crap to Looking
things up and being like, oh,

781
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,300
wow, this is true.
You know, this isn't, you know,

782
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:48,400
and that's what I wanted to do
as well.

783
00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:52,900
I feel like that's a much easier
task to do with the topic, like,

784
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,200
Giants versus weather
modifications.

785
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:01,400
Because Giants people for my
experience people, you tell

786
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,500
people about jaya's, they're
just going to either take it for

787
00:48:04,500 --> 00:48:07,700
stock or listening in.
Call it call it a day, whereas

788
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:11,600
weather modifications is such a
radical idea to some People and

789
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,000
their so stuck in their ways,
they're not going to take the

790
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,100
time to go out of their way.
To look at these patents.

791
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:22,300
That Jeff is presenting them and
they're just, nope.

792
00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:24,100
Nope, you're wrong.
Chemtrails are not real.

793
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:27,700
They're not this, they're not
right, like but it with giants.

794
00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:31,500
It's a lot easier to bridge that
Gap, right?

795
00:48:31,500 --> 00:48:36,000
That's, that's my art out there.
I feel like you could you at

796
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,400
least with giants, you have the
religious angle and the

797
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,600
religious side.
From a lot of Peter, not just,

798
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,800
not just Christianity but there
are a lot of religions that

799
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:50,200
believe in Giants, right?
So like, you know, it's it would

800
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,600
be a little easier.
I supposed to bridge that Gap,

801
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:58,100
but I guess on the other hand,
you know, I can present patents

802
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:02,800
and you know, actual
documentation of projects that

803
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,100
are happening in real time,
versus with giants.

804
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,100
It's more.
So like you're purposely

805
00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:13,300
locating archaeological digs Use
article from 1890 though.

806
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:16,000
And it's like, okay she got to
go before that.

807
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:20,200
Yeah, you know.
Yeah, it's like sure they must

808
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,100
know what they're talking about
but also like maybe maybe not

809
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:26,400
but then there's 500 of them so
yeah.

810
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,400
But you know you look at people
in ancient days and they were

811
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,400
drinking at lead cups and stuff
so it's like how much did they

812
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,800
actually know.
I got to bring us all like

813
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,100
poison and that's and that's
unfortunate because when you're

814
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,800
talking about something that
That, you know, as far as I'm

815
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:47,200
concerned is not a conspiracy
anymore or is not a, you know,

816
00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:48,800
maybe it could have happened.
Like it.

817
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,800
Absolutely did.
There is still portions of

818
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,300
History where you look at it me
like, yeah.

819
00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:58,000
But people were really dumb back
then to like they were literally

820
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:03,600
burning people alive for being
witches because of like bad

821
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,200
sanitary, conditions,
syphilitic, insanity it because

822
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,600
of like moldy bread that they're
tripping you know, off.

823
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:13,700
Off of, you know, it just like
they were literally burning

824
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:18,100
people alive because they were
scared of the devil because

825
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:23,000
people were sick.
It's like so yeah.

826
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,400
And so it kind of awkward.
Yeah, right.

827
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:29,800
But it's just like, yeah, I
don't know it was but it was a

828
00:50:29,808 --> 00:50:34,400
lot.
Still interesting stuff still a

829
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,000
lot of different angles and
everything.

830
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,600
Man.
I loved those weather

831
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,300
modification things.
Like that's a perfect, like

832
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:44,300
example.
Like man.

833
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:46,300
You did such a fantastic job
with that.

834
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,400
That's what I do, bro.
I thought we didn't talk about

835
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,800
5G, hardcore.
Going into those episodes and

836
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,300
I'm like yeah those trails in
the back of the planes are

837
00:50:56,300 --> 00:51:00,400
because of hot exhaust in a cold
atmosphere and there's nothing

838
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,000
more R to it whatsoever.
We can probably about 5 G in the

839
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,200
dangers of your cell phone and
all that crazy shit, bro.

840
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:12,200
No, I'm sure it's awful.
I can't wait to bring on a desk

841
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,500
that one.
No, I don't need to.

842
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:21,000
I am a guest.
Eulogies.

843
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:29,600
Man I this episode has made me
want to jump back into smaller

844
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,900
subjects.
Like I said I'm not gonna lie

845
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:36,900
lie I'm really dragging my feet
on this communion thing just

846
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:40,400
because the story is so far out
there and it's just like I just

847
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,100
don't take a break.
I don't want saying you have to

848
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:45,800
do one back to back to back to
back.

849
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,000
Just take a minute and talk man.
I think honestly when you have

850
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,900
you know, four voices on a
podcast that Not in and of

851
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:55,800
itself, a lot of voices.
But when you're trying to do a

852
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,300
like a full presentation and get
for opinions on everything, like

853
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:03,800
then it becomes a lot, right?
So I think, you know, doesn't to

854
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:08,900
be smaller topics, but condensed
formats of presenting to where

855
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:12,000
we can have more time to talk
about shit, you know what I'm

856
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000
saying?
Like, even that because then

857
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,100
you're, you know, you're not
overwhelming yourself with the

858
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,800
research.
We're still coming with enough

859
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,700
to generate conversation, which
is really what people listened

860
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:22,800
to a podcast for is the
conversation.

861
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,300
I think we should have more
debates.

862
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:26,600
Debates.
Yeah, I'll totally about

863
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,500
debates.
I think that's another thing.

864
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:31,200
Anybody listening?
If you have anybody who just

865
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,800
totally thinks that I'm full of
shit about anything?

866
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,400
I'm game.
Let's come on.

867
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,100
We'll team up on Jeff together.
Dude, the whole crew can Team Up

868
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,400
In Here on me and I'll still rek
U.

869
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,000
Let's go.
We'll just gangbang enough, my

870
00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:49,600
hold on a second.
Let's calm down.

871
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:57,100
Put it up on the interweb.
ABS on patreon three, guys, at a

872
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:10,800
chick, gangbang our co-host.
No, I still have to get my next

873
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:15,100
door neighbor that is just don't
wants to come on with Jeff and

874
00:53:15,100 --> 00:53:19,100
Wes to hash out the spaces, fake
thing again.

875
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,500
Well I don't think I don't think
Wes is coming back on man.

876
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,900
Well I mean you could just get
Jeff I mean but still it's just

877
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:30,800
like you know there are people
that I'm sure are in our inner

878
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,500
circles, you know, family
friends, things like that.

879
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,200
That would love to do that to
come on and kind of of either

880
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,900
debate or Converse about some of
the subjects that we talked

881
00:53:40,900 --> 00:53:46,500
about like having Grayson on for
the kind of breakthrough into

882
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:48,100
simulation theory, that was
pretty cool.

883
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:53,300
Getting his ideas and thoughts
about the whole thing and and

884
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:57,600
how he feels about it and stuff.
And there's a lot of directions

885
00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,900
we could go with this over the
next year or two years, you

886
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,600
know, you know, willing we're
still doing this sort of stuff

887
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:09,600
where we could really have.
A lot of fun with it and not not

888
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,000
cop out, you know, or have the
listeners feel like we're

889
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,700
copying out by just being like,
oh we don't want to do all this

890
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:20,500
work anymore but just really
opening up to kind of the design

891
00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:24,400
of the show originally which was
just having a lot of different

892
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,800
voices on all the time whether
they're professionals, you know,

893
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,700
or their researchers or, you
know people with experience or

894
00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:34,100
there's just people that listen
to the show that just really

895
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:37,300
want to pick.
The host brain about something,

896
00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:41,200
you know, so it's like we should
do that.

897
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:45,200
Yeah, we should.
I agree.

898
00:54:46,300 --> 00:54:51,200
What's up, man?
Talking about space is fake and

899
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:57,400
we just did that Flat Earth
conversation which I've actually

900
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,700
got a couple problem and my dad
hated that be really.

901
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,700
Yeah, he was, he was grilling me
with questions.

902
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:09,400
He's like, so how do they think
gravity is a thing?

903
00:55:09,500 --> 00:55:12,000
And I was just like, he's like,
there's nothing, we're not

904
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,500
spinning around anything.
That's keeping us here from

905
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:16,100
centrifugal force or anything
like that.

906
00:55:16,100 --> 00:55:19,600
And I was just like, and I was
like, well, you know that when I

907
00:55:19,700 --> 00:55:22,700
Well, the advances in science
and all that stuff, they still

908
00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:24,700
don't know what's at the center
of the earth, whether it's an

909
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:30,100
iron ball or it's a ball of
magma or whatever it is, isn't

910
00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:33,100
it like magma was in the crust
and lava when it's outside or

911
00:55:33,107 --> 00:55:35,800
something like that.
But anyway, it's just like they

912
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,800
don't know what's in the center
of the Earth.

913
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,100
All they know is that there's
some Force that's keeping us on

914
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:44,300
the ground and they call it
gravity, you know, it could be

915
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:48,200
anything else, it could be named
something else, but really

916
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,900
science has no idea.
Tia?

917
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:54,200
What gravity is just right back
and we'll scroll down to Crest,

918
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:55,600
right?
They could describe it.

919
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,100
They get out under it pretty
well.

920
00:55:57,100 --> 00:56:00,100
They can predict pretty well
with it but they don't quite

921
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:03,600
know.
Wow, yeah, and you know, as I

922
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,800
said it's really not, you know,
any part of the equation

923
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,700
whatsoever and he's like, well
what about, you know, tidal

924
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:12,500
patterns and the moon and all
that stuff and he's like our the

925
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:15,500
rest of the planets around and I
was just like it's like they had

926
00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:20,500
I have no idea but he was just
like Give me the questions like

927
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:23,300
man you should come on a report
that kind of stuff though is.

928
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:26,800
It's just understanding again.
It's understanding the model,

929
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,400
right?
It's when people ask those

930
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,600
questions, it's immediate, it's
like a throws up a red flag in a

931
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,200
way, right?
It's like are all the other

932
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,300
planets round.
It's like, okay, immediate red

933
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:38,200
flag.
They're not understanding the

934
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,700
concept from the beginning, the
foundation is not been laid,

935
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:43,500
right?
So it's like then you know, just

936
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,700
to go back to whatever it is
that you can lay the foundation

937
00:56:46,700 --> 00:56:49,700
with, but that goes the same
thing with the Giants or the Um,

938
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:51,400
Trails whatever, right?
It's like you could say

939
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,800
something if it's like, wait a
minute.

940
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,200
They're asking a question that
just doesn't you can tell that

941
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,800
it's the thing before it in
Click.

942
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,900
So you have to go back and be
like, wait a minute.

943
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,300
Yeah, the question I get for
Giants.

944
00:57:02,300 --> 00:57:06,700
Is why would they be trying to
hide that information?

945
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,400
Exactly.
It's like, okay, Foundation has

946
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,700
not been laid you.
If you ask that question, you do

947
00:57:12,700 --> 00:57:14,500
not.
You have not educated yourself

948
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:16,900
on basic history of the
government.

949
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:17,500
Right?
Right.

950
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:18,900
You don't understand the Gulf of
Tonkin.

951
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:21,400
You don't understand.
And just so many things Pearl

952
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:23,000
Harbor.
Like there's so much stuff, the

953
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,300
Federal Reserve, the users have
not researched and once you

954
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:27,600
research those things, again lay
the foundation then you'll be

955
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,700
like, okay they would they would
like to you then it's yeah.

956
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:35,100
So it's not so much a question
of whether or not the government

957
00:57:35,100 --> 00:57:40,300
would, or just whoever's in
power of whatever country would

958
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,000
try, if they would try to, you
know, deceive you, it's then

959
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,300
well, what's the Masons of
evidence that you have that

960
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:51,600
would It show that these things
did exist, right?

961
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,200
And then you can really get into
the nitty-gritty and the good

962
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,600
stuff and the actual content.
Yeah, I just want to talk more

963
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,600
about Bigfoot.
Let's go.

964
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:10,100
That's honestly, I like being a
good Beauty First good, I saw.

965
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:13,700
Thank you.
I saw I saw a video today on

966
00:58:13,700 --> 00:58:15,000
Tick Tock.
I don't know, could be complete

967
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,200
bullshit but somebody might look
into it.

968
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:19,500
Apparently, there was a guy
somewhere.

969
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:23,000
Are who had saw a video of a
giant, or what it could have

970
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,700
been a Bigfoot, right?
And then he went looking for and

971
00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:29,200
this was like up on a Hilltop
somewhere, got the video and

972
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,300
then he was like, live streaming
and then he died and he died.

973
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:34,400
Yeah, he was killed.
You seen this?

974
00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:37,100
He said, I've seen, I've seen
the giant video that thing was

975
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:39,400
absolutely a giant on that
Mountaintop that thing was

976
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,100
probably like a hundred find
that.

977
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:45,500
Can you can you make me?
Yeah, it sounds - yeah, yeah,

978
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:49,400
I'll bring it up again.
So this I saw the same thing.

979
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,900
NG the guy literally was
recording it on the mountain top

980
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:57,800
and then he started posting
updates on his personal

981
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,200
Tick-Tock saying that I'm being
watched.

982
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,900
There's people following me all
the time that sort of stuff, and

983
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:06,800
then other tick talkers and then
his Tick Tock, just went blank.

984
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:10,300
I mean, it's still up, but his,
you know, content stopped and

985
00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:13,700
then the other tick stalkers
that have recorded, you know,

986
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:16,800
doing whatever it is where they
do like a side-by-side of his

987
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,400
video.
They're like, just in case his

988
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,500
Tick-Tock gets deleted.
But this guy is actually dead.

989
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:27,400
Like he's he you know he was
killed somehow but it was first.

990
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,900
Where's the video?
I got to see this happen.

991
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,000
This is that like that thing was
that was absolutely a giant like

992
00:59:34,100 --> 00:59:36,700
100%.
We're gonna put this in the

993
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:41,000
group to see that's the kind of
stuff, like, I want to get into.

994
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,900
I want to get into something
that's exciting.

995
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:49,200
Like I'm going to get suicided,
no, but if I, if I end up in the

996
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,000
woods Woods searching for a
Bigfoot or giant type creature

997
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:57,100
and I end up dying by the hands
of those things that would suck.

998
00:59:57,100 --> 01:00:02,700
But I'd be out there.
Hey listen, I've been talking to

999
01:00:02,700 --> 01:00:05,500
my girl about doing a vacation
next year.

1000
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,600
Got a bunch of hours stacked up
in the vacation bank.

1001
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,000
So we're talking about going to
Wisconsin and when we're talking

1002
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,900
about doing a road trip,
somewhere else, it's like Cooper

1003
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:18,000
we haven't decided where but you
know, maybe we can meet

1004
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,700
somewhere halfway.
Maybe we can go to like Like

1005
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:21,300
Tennessee or somewhere and go
search.

1006
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:26,100
The Appalachian Trail for outs,
not being full creature, you

1007
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:30,400
know, I'll start, I'll start
finding some places somewhere

1008
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,200
that we can all get to within an
asset.

1009
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:36,600
Okay, and sending it to the, to
the group chat.

1010
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,600
All right, let's have, I don't
believe for a second that, that

1011
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,200
was a Sasquatch, I think 100%.
I was a giant It's not easy.

1012
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,900
I like up on that Ridge, it's so
big.

1013
01:00:48,500 --> 01:00:52,100
Well, if it's CGI, it's pretty
terrible CGI because it's not

1014
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,800
clear at all in the Sky live
reaction was driving.

1015
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:58,500
This is this is local to me.
Apparently.

1016
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:17,200
Which makes this even crazier.
Andrew Ryan.

1017
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:23,100
That's pretty big, dude.
I mean, it's hard to say because

1018
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:27,400
there's nothing really too.
There's no point of reference,

1019
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,900
right?
I think of how far away it is

1020
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:33,900
and how much you can see it to
the point where you can see its

1021
01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:37,200
legs move, that's how far away
it is.

1022
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,300
I mean like, on one hand, that
could be a mile away on a ridge

1023
01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:45,300
or that could be 20 feet away
you know and like a small

1024
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:50,400
animal, what mountain that is.
Because if that's local to me,

1025
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,100
that could make, that could be
fun.

1026
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,300
Fun research.
Oh no explanation.

1027
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:57,700
That is a mountain.
That's a giant.

1028
01:01:57,700 --> 01:02:02,400
That's that's the kind of stuff
I want to get into, you know.

1029
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:08,700
I I truly believe that you know,
there's there's a living things

1030
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:13,300
out there that we just don't
know about and I definitely

1031
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:15,900
think that some most of them are
bipedal.

1032
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:20,900
You know, you were talking about
Denver Michaels.

1033
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:24,700
Another one that I always
thought was a really interesting

1034
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:28,900
topic is the idea of mammoths
still existing in Northern in

1035
01:02:28,900 --> 01:02:30,400
the Northern Territories of
Canada?

1036
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,600
Yeah, here's another one, that
you can see from the beginning

1037
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:40,400
the mountain, as he zooming, it
Yeah, I think that it's like

1038
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,700
that or like that the white
mousse from the Amazon and stuff

1039
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,700
where it's like, you know, you
could, you could look at a lot

1040
01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:52,200
of things and think that there's
something else.

1041
01:02:52,300 --> 01:02:53,900
I mean, people do it all the
time, right?

1042
01:02:54,100 --> 01:02:57,800
But it's kind of hard to say
like a picture from like, I

1043
01:02:57,808 --> 01:03:02,300
think it's the 1800's or early
1900s, but it's like a black and

1044
01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:07,800
white photo of a white mousse in
the Amazon rainforest right now.

1045
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,900
Is like that is 100% of moose,
there's nothing else that that

1046
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:16,200
is and it's like why is that
there?

1047
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:17,900
You know, that doesn't make any
sense.

1048
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:22,600
I came across an article a
couple years ago of a they found

1049
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:28,000
a blue whale or something in the
middle of the rainforest, like

1050
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,000
what?
Yeah some a Chinese Guide to the

1051
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:34,600
Galaxy stuff there man.
Like I mean we've talked about

1052
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,800
it from the perspective of like
Sasquatch and stuff.

1053
01:03:37,900 --> 01:03:41,000
Tough, you know, me driving
cross-country from Virginia to

1054
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,100
California and how empty the
United States is right?

1055
01:03:45,100 --> 01:03:49,400
The reason why housing prices
are super high and like hubs of

1056
01:03:49,408 --> 01:03:53,900
society is because, you know,
that's just where everyone

1057
01:03:53,900 --> 01:03:56,600
lives.
It's like, if you, you can go

1058
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,500
and find a place that has like a
thousand acres on it, but it's

1059
01:04:00,500 --> 01:04:02,700
going to be really difficult to
set up there because you're

1060
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:04,500
going to have to Homestead.
You're gonna have to run power

1061
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:07,400
and water if you want to and all
that sort of stuff to that

1062
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:09,300
location.
Build the home, you know,

1063
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:14,000
maintain the land everything but
you know driving from one Coast

1064
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,400
to the other literally from one
Coast to the other and do,

1065
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:22,400
there's a lot of nothing out
there but that's, that's not

1066
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:26,200
just America, that's the world,
but that is but that's America

1067
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:30,600
with a population of, you know
what, like 350 million people

1068
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:32,500
now.
So, you know, and that's quite a

1069
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:33,700
bit.
You know, what's the population

1070
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:36,500
of Canada?
And that's I think bigger than

1071
01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:40,900
United States as far as As you
know the area if I'm correct.

1072
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:42,600
Third largest country in the
world.

1073
01:04:43,300 --> 01:04:46,000
Yeah.
And it just like Canada is huge

1074
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,300
like huge insane and we don't
even have anywhere near the

1075
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:51,100
population.
You guys do down there.

1076
01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:55,200
I don't know what our population
is but I know where mass amount

1077
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,400
of land, small amount of people
and way up North were always

1078
01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:01,200
cold.
Exactly.

1079
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,300
That's why there's not really
cold dude.

1080
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:06,600
Now, this conversation makes me
want to do another missing with

1081
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,000
41 episodes.
Maybe we should do a missing for

1082
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:15,300
one episode on this guy who's
gonna get suicided.

1083
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:21,900
Let's get suicide together.
Hmm, II still need to rebuild my

1084
01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:23,800
motorcycle.
I've been putting off for a

1085
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:28,900
month because I've been sick.
Yeah, I can't get suicided this

1086
01:05:28,900 --> 01:05:33,100
week.
I got a thing that I got a next

1087
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:37,100
week.
My schedule is free.

1088
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:43,600
So Jeff missed his opportunity
with all these friends, you

1089
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:46,800
know?
It's I'll be the next thing.

1090
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,800
All right guys we think call it.
Yeah, we can call.

1091
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:01,700
So those listening, this is the
the New Year's episode.

1092
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:05,700
This is the first episode of the
New Year.

1093
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:11,400
Following this episode kid,
actually breaks the seal with

1094
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,700
whoa.
Something she's already

1095
01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:16,900
presented to us, it's another
two-parter or at least we're

1096
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:18,300
going to break it into two
parts.

1097
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:20,800
Okay, do you want to announce
your topic for everybody?

1098
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,600
Sure, kind of excited.
This going to be two parts that

1099
01:06:24,700 --> 01:06:27,300
that episode when a lot longer
than I expected it to but it's

1100
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:29,000
going.
To be about giant pandas,

1101
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,100
mmm-hmm.
Uh-huh.

1102
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,200
Yep, those big fluffy black and
white goofballs.

1103
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:41,300
And I'm going to officially move
away from That one book

1104
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:45,600
communion a don't yeah, I'm
gonna move away from it, maybe

1105
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,900
not, I don't know.
Dave Dave wants to come on man.

1106
01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:54,700
You don't rush to wrap it up and
then then move on, then move on

1107
01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:58,200
and never come back.
That's what this will do.

1108
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,100
I just want to get on to some of
the more classic topics of the

1109
01:07:02,100 --> 01:07:04,800
infinite rival.
I want to get into missing 401.

1110
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:08,700
I want to dive into the
psychology of serial killers.

1111
01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:12,300
I want to get more big Foot
stuff going and more smaller

1112
01:07:12,300 --> 01:07:18,000
urban legends and Cryptids War.
Jeff when we going to hear the

1113
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:22,200
wrap-up of the Gateway, the
Gateway.

1114
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,700
Yeah, I'm Jeremy mentioned a
couple weeks.

1115
01:07:26,700 --> 01:07:28,600
We can record that next week my
friend.

1116
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,700
We can't afford that right now.
What up?

1117
01:07:32,500 --> 01:07:37,100
No, I'm out.
All right, well, there's been

1118
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:39,600
another half a steps of the
infinite rabbit hole.

1119
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:46,700
Cast tune in next week when we
actually present a topic fire.

1120
01:07:46,700 --> 01:07:49,300
Woody happy New Year.
Bye.

1121
01:07:49,700 --> 01:07:50,700
Mama.
Bye.