221. Atlanteans & Lemurians w/ Lance Dorrel

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Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit
Hole.

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I'm your host Jeremy, and today
we're going to jump right back

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into the path that we were in
last week with our guest Lance

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Doral.
And we're just going to jump

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right into where I cut him off
so so rudely at the point where

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he was about to jump in and tell
us all about Atlantis and

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Memoria.
Before we do that, let's go

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ahead and bring in my Co host El
Hefe.

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What is?
That do what it do what it do?

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How you doing bud?
I'm all right, man.

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I'm alive.
Yeah, Yeah.

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You look FA ish.
Thanks man.

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Yeah Nah, just a little stiff.
My neck has been killing me for

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like 3 weeks now so.
But other than that, man, I

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really can't, can't complain.
Nice man.

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All right, moving on.
Let's go ahead and jump into the

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guest for the night.
Lance, how are you doing, man?

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Hey guys, I'm doing well.
Thanks for having me back of.

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Course, absolutely man, we got
some good feedback from last

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week, really good feedback.
We had some people reach out.

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I don't know about Jeff, but I
had some people who definitely

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reach out to me and was like,
hey man, that that guest that

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you had last week that was that
was good stuff.

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We'd love to love to hear him
come back at some point.

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And I was like, hey, good news,
he'll be back in a few days.

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So, so you don't have to wait
long, we're going to jump right

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in to where I rudely cut you off
last time.

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No worries, no worries.
So you were you were getting

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ready to jump in and talk to us
about how Alanis and Lamoria

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ties into all of this.
So do you have a good spot to

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lead off from with all that?
Yeah, yeah.

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So again, just for if anybody's
just joining in real quick,

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again, my whole premises on this
whole journey was I was trying

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to understand what happened at
the Little Bighorn.

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History's one of history's
greatest mysteries, the most

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written about battle in U.S.
history.

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Number one or two, it goes back
and forth with Gettysburg.

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And just when I thought I had
finally the pieces of the untold

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story, what happened there?
I, Donovan Taylor and I, who is

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a, is a dear, dear friend of
mine.

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He is my Cheyenne brother.
We, we've set out to work on

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that project.
It took us six years and we were

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getting a lot of history from
Native American and First

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Nations people from Canada.
And then we started to run into

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very gracious folks from
Mesoamerica who just started

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sharing a lot of history about
the Native and First Nations

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people.
And it all went back to when all

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were one at one time.
No, no linguistic

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classifications, no tribal
designations.

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OK, so that's a good starting
point.

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At the same time as those
histories were being shared to

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us, I started catching a lot of
stories about the Atlanteans

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from Native folks up in the
around the Great Lakes, which

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was pretty mind boggling.
And then catching a lot of that

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history also from people, First
Nations people mainly in

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Saskatchewan, the province of
Saskatchewan.

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And that really took me by
shock.

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But again, if you don't know,
you don't know and you try not

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to be static with your research
and keeping a very open mind.

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And so basically what I was
taught was these Atlanteans,

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when they fled out of the
Straits of Gibraltar, I believe

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that area, there's, there's a
whole, all that speculation

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about where it is that they came
into the Northeastern United

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States seaboard and developed
relationships with the native

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people on the Eastern seaboard,
OK.

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At the same time, they went into
Mesoamerica and South America at

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the same time.
All that information is coming

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started catching glimpses of the
Lamorians out of the South

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Pacific coming into the American
West Coast, Mexico West Coast

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and down in Peru.
And the story seemed to coincide

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that these two highly advanced
races that may have destroyed

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themselves have been fled.
These areas possibly had a lot

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of dealings with the star people
and star travelers and with

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people from other galaxies.
You know, I mean, we have to

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keep a very open mind in this.
And you guys are that way and

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I'm that way.
But for the average person,

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they're like, you know, that
sounds woo woo.

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Well, if it's woo woo, then
they've all got the same

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stories.
So I look for a consistency.

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And these think these stories
just kept coming and coming.

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And to wrap this part of it up,
look at the Hopi.

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The Hopi talk about those, the
Atlanteans, the Mayans have a

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lot of history with the
Atlanteans.

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The Cherokee have history.
And so it just kind of morphed

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into that.
And then once I had that in my

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purview, other pieces started
coming.

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So everywhere I turned, they
were somewhere.

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So there's a, there's a lot of
lore behind Atlantis and

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Lamoria, right?
Most of which most of which that

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I've heard has to deal with the
concepts of hollow Earth.

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A lot of them going and, and
falling down into the hollows of

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the Earth or, or taking shelter
into the hollows of the Earth

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back when the, you know, the,
the best way I can describe it

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is the biblical flood event
occurs right now.

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Of course, there's cultures all
around the world that tell of

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many different things.
They all have their, their

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flooding events.
They all seem to have their

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stories of, of advanced
civilizations that you can tie

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into the Lemoria or, or
Atlantis.

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Now, what was the general
description that the Native

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Americans or the Mesoamericans?
What did they, what did they

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describe these Alanians as
being?

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Were they advanced like the the
Alanians that we know of that we

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hear about, or were they more of
just equal people to them?

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Good question.
They, they were highly advanced

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to, compared to the people that
were in North America,

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Mesoamerica and South America.
For instance, the Atlanteans

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that came to the Mayans, they,
they, they said they came in

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some type of crafts and it, it
was like one person was in a

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craft and it was like a
cylinder, you know?

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Oh man, you guys have seen that
where it's like a it looks like

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an astronaut laying in the the
capsule, right?

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Yeah, the Mayan relief carving.
Yeah, it's like a cryopod.

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Kind of thing.
They they talk about coming in

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in cylinders like that, that
that's never left my memory.

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That one is that one's in there.
It, it, it talks about the, the

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Mayans, excuse me, the
Atlanteans infusing the, the,

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the, the red people.
And that's not me putting a term

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on people.
That's from native people and

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the, the Lemurians infusing the
brown race.

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OK, is the brown race people of
South America and and

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Mesoamerica and the Pacific, the
Pacific islands?

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Yeah, it, it sure seems that
way.

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So coming in the in these crafts
was one of them, but there was

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something that there was a
connection with interventions

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from the star ancestors, the
star people and the star beings

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that these people they came to
never ever forgot.

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So you know that that's that's
where this all starts.

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But there's a lot of stuff that
we don't even know about that

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was so covered up, you guys.
And you guys know this.

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And I think it goes back to the
mound builders because again, we

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don't know who the first people
in of North America is.

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We got a pretty good idea on
number 2-3 and four and two is

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the people from South America,
Mesoamerica.

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But we don't know really who was
here, the first group, who these

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mound Builders were or who were
some of these people said to be

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possibly giants.
But again, when you're saying a

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giant, we, you know, you don't
want to go there where it's 10

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to 12 feet.
It may be somebody who was 6

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foot 6 foot, 66 foot 8, on and
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OK Yeah.
So that's where it gets a little

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hard.
But you got to remember, too,

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like you were saying, Jeremy,
there was these floods and

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cataclysmic events.
And there's a lot of stuff where

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these Lemurians and Mayans,
excuse me, keep saying Mayans,

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the Lemurians and the Atlanteans
seem to have some kind of a

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struggle with each other, and
they may have started one of

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these cataclysmic events, OK.
So there's there's a lot of

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geological evidence of a flood.
And this is something that I've

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meant to dive into quite a bit.
Jeff has tied in this into what

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was the topic that you did that
one time, Jeff?

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The younger, driest impact?
That's right, the younger driest

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impact.
But there's a lot of evidence

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that that the Earth may just go
through cycles of, of flooding.

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And they say that there there's
more water under the surface of

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the planet than there is on the
surface of the planet.

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And I heard an interesting fact
the other day that I that I just

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thought was kind of mind
blowing.

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And it, it just kind of puts
things into perspective for you.

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That's if we, we have some, we
have some flat earthers that

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listen to this.
And Jeff, depending on what what

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day of the week it is will
bounce back and forth on that.

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But if, if you're one of the
people who believe that the

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Earth is a globe, this one will
connect for you.

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So there's more depth to the
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the Earth, then there is in
distance between New York and

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LA.
Now think about that.

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That's a lot of space, a lot of
space.

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And then you take that and you,
you include the entire, the

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entire innards of, of the planet
and you think of all the caverns

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that can be in that.
That's a lot of places for water

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to, to be.
Now you, you, you take the, the

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planet and you throw it out into
a vacuum of space and you spin

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it.
You basically create a

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centrifuge, right?
What happens in the centrifuge?

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I mean, if anybody's ever jumped
in the Gravitron ride at their

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local carnival, they know,
right?

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You, you stick to the wall.
I mean, you'd have to think at

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some point, sometime water's
going to spill out.

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It's going to come to the
surface.

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Because one of the biggest
arguments that I've heard is,

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well, against the flood idea is
where does all the water come

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from?
There's not enough ice on the

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surface of the planet to create
that amount of flooding.

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Well, I, I don't believe that
the, the water comes from the

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surface of the planet.
I believe it comes from

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underneath.
So there could be these ebbs and

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flows sort of like a breathing
effect on the planet where water

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escapes these gigantic caverns,
comes to the surface, wipes,

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wipes everything out and
civilizations could be inside

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the inner earth.
And I, I, I find that absolutely

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fascinating.
And when I did my deep dive into

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the hollow hollow earth concept,
this was actually a whole part

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of it that I had to cut out just
because I, I already made it 4

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episodes long and I think each
episode was almost an hour long

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already.
So I had to, I had to kind of

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cut it out a little bit.
But there was this whole concept

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that I dove into where, where I
discussed the longest borehole

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that that humans have ever
drilled was only about a little

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over 4 miles deep.
And that's in Russia and, and

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the hole is literally just the
size of, it's about 6 inches

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wide.
The entire hole is only about

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6-6 inches wide and it's about
four miles deep.

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That's as far as we've ever
drilled.

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That's it.
There's a lot of stuff

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underneath this, this, this
planet that, that we don't know

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about.
So I, I guess I, you know, I, I

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went off on a, on a bit of a
tangent there because I know the

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argument that I'm going to get
in my messages about the flood.

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The water, the water this, I
think there's just I, I agree

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with you to an extent, but I do
think that you got to remember,

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man, like before the younger
driest events, the, all of the

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oceans were about 400 feet
lower.

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OK, So when people say there's
not enough water on the surface

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to account for these floods,
well, there is.

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The entire world's oceans rose
400 feet.

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That's the water.
And all the coastline that was

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submerged, which is a lot, are
the lands that were flooded,

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right?
So and then, you know, you could

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add into the cataclysms like the
Scablands and stuff like that in

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the Northwest of the United
States, Like there was

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definitely, definitely,
definitely massive floods that

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washed across the North, like
North America, North American

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continent, right?
And whatever was there was

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completely just scratched off
the surface of the Earth.

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Well, the entire Uinta Basin of
Utah was was a giant.

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All of that.
Was a giant lake.

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All of that and then, you know,
I also just want to point

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something out too on the Giants
thing.

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I don't know how real some of
the reports are, right, But

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there's a book called Giants of
America.

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And in that book, there's a
bunch of articles that were

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published like all through like
the second-half of the 1800s and

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like the early 1900s.
And a lot of those articles were

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basically saying that they were
digging up some of these, these

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burial mounds and they were
finding 9/12/14 foot skeletons

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in those mounds.
So, you know, I, I hear what

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you're saying.
Like back in those days, 6 foot,

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you know, 6 foot 6 was a giant
and that they were probably

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finding those two those things
too.

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And those people were probably
revered as giants.

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But I also think that there were
12 and 14 foot giants walking

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around according to those
articles.

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Yeah, yeah.
And and for anybody to be so

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narrow minded to say these
things can't happen, that

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Atlanteans didn't exist,
Lemurians didn't exist and there

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were no giants here.
Who possibly may have been the

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mound builder building culture.
That's just not sound reasoning

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to close those doors without a
thorough investigation.

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And I mean, look, go back to the
Jeremy talking about the

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Subalterranean area of the of
this planet.

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You've got the Hopi and you've
got Lakota.

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Talk about emerging after
cataclysmic events up from the

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ground, right?
You know, is that a coincidence?

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I don't think so.
I think it has a lot of merit to

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it based on their oral history.
OK, Because they're leaving the

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oral history tradition for their
people now.

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Did they cover some of this up
when they were talking to

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ethnographers at the turn of the
20th century?

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Yeah, that's been proven.
But but the bottom line is

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you're trying to leave a trail
for future generations.

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And if if a person wants to take
a deep dive into the Hopi, you

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just simply need to read Frank
Waters book on the Hopi.

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And Waters spent considerable
time with those folks in New

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Mexico, and he was able to glean
an incredible amount of

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information.
That book is a treasure trove

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that nobody talks about.
And you have these stories of

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the of the underground tunnels
and passages all through the

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American West.
I mean, you guys have heard

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this, OK.
Oh, yeah.

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How many times have we also
heard in contemporary terms

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there?
There possibly is a so vast a

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network of underground systems
and tunnels in our country that

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none of us know about either,
either put here for military

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purposes to protect us all or
possibly for other nefarious

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means.
I don't know.

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I'm not sure we will ever know
those things, unfortunately.

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But if we're, we have to be
pretty damn naive to think that

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there's nothing underground here
that hasn't already been here,

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that's not being used now,
that's just not good common

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sense, right?
That's just not that.

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That's closing the door on too
much stuff.

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So yeah, it's, it's this, this,
this thing from underground.

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It needs to be investigated.
And we're always taught to look

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up.
Well, there's a lot of stories

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about Underground as well.
I got a question for you, Lance,

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because I don't, I only know of
like the Hopies, you know,

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stories or traditions through
like all I've seen on YouTube

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and stuff, right?
Like, I've never actually talked

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to anybody who's actually looked
into this.

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Do they they reference the Ant
people, right?

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Isn't that what they say?
The Ant people?

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Have you ever heard of Phil
Schneider?

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Phil Schneider.
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
Phil Schneider, he was a

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contractor for I forget which
company, and they were part of

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building these giant underground
networks.

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And his whole thing was when
they were building one of these

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underground bunkers or whatever
they were, that they broke

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through to a cavern that was
already there and they

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encountered these beings.
Now, he didn't say that they

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were aliens, but the way he
described them were big heads,

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big eyes.
And I always just kind of link

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that to like the Ant people
specifically because it was

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underground, right?
Yeah.

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Yeah, that's it is interesting.
Well, you know, that whole story

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about Phil Snyder in itself is
intriguing because it it sounds

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so ex files that he he came
online and he was showing his

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hand where he had some fingers
removed, right.

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And he he, he goes down the
rabbit hole, so to speak,

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leading us to believe that it
all happened down in Dulce in

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New Mexico, remember?
And then there was some loose

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documentation that came out that
the late great John Lear brought

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to out to the public in the
early 90s saying that these

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special forces guys got in, got
into a firefight down there and

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lost many of their men as well.
I may be confusing those two

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events as one in the same, but
the Phil Snyder thing, Jeff, I

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think the story is, is right on
about the Hopies and the Ant

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people.
And I have no reason to believe

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that they're still not around
just because we don't see him.

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But I think Phil Snyder was
proven to be not who he said he

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was.
Agree.

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And that's happening to Doctor
Steven Greer right now.

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But you know, what I tell people
is that when when these psyops

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occur, when you have these
agents of disinformation like

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Phil Schneider and Doctor Greer,
they purposely do sprinkle

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truths into the lies.
And that's what gets people, you

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know, way down the rabbit hole.
So I think there are some truths

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to, you know, whether Phil
Schneider was exactly who he

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said he was or not, right?
Those operations were happening.

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You're on.
You're on it, buddy.

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And listen, one of my dearest,
dearest friends, you know, I'm

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not going to drop his name, but
he's still with us.

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He was a intelligence officer
during the Vietnam War and I got

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to spend a lot of time with that
man and I'm very blessed because

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of his knowledge of Native
American history.

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And he's a Native American and
we'll leave it at that.

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But he was an intelligence
officer, non commissioned

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officer.
And a lot of us that know him,

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when we have a lot of
conversations on the research

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trail, we're always saying the
old intelligence officer, well,

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Jeff, you'll like this.
The old intelligence officer

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always said the best place to
hide the truth is between two

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lies.
And if, if you know this guy,

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he's right out of central
casting.

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And man, he's, he's just a
beautiful human being.

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But he's all business at times.
So you're right on it.

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You're right on it, Jeff.
You're right on it.

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Yeah, and you know, that's
relevant to what you're talking

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about with Atlantis and Lemuria
too, because, you know, I run

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into this a lot being the
conspiracy guy, right?

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When you, when you say certain
words, words that have been

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psyop to shit, right?
Atlantis, Lemuria, Chemtrails,

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anything like this, right?
People immediately have an image

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in their mind of what they think
that looks like and it's easy

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for them to debunk that as
crazy, right?

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So when say the word Atlantis or
Atlanteans, I know that most

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people are thinking of like
fantastical like stuff and they

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might have been, but they have
this image from like the the

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Disney movie, right?
Or whatever it might be, or like

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the show, like Stargate Atlantis
or something, like they have

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these preconceived notions of
what this is, but it could have

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just been, you know, humans that
were just on another level of

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intelligence that we're not,
we're not supposed to believe

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they had back then, right?
Like they're supposed to be

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using copper tools or whatever
the hell it is.

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Maybe they weren't.
Maybe they, they figured out

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metallurgy, right?
Maybe they figured out other

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ways to manipulate, you know,
physics and, and stuff like

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that, like we're doing now.
You know, it doesn't have to be

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that they were all flying around
in UFOs and Cities of Gold and

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all that shit, you know?
No, you again, you're on it

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because what you said if, if
everybody would stop and slow

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down and not be so quick to
judge a higher form of

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consciousness and spirituality
sets anybody apart from anybody,

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right?
So if, if, if they're on that

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level.
I mean, look, you remember Edgar

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Cayce, Kentucky?
Yeah.

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Oh yeah.
Casey went down that rabbit hole

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and did those readings on the
Mayans.

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He talked about the Atlanteans
and Lemurians, and he talked

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about him coming, you know, and
people don't talk about Edgar

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Casey anymore, but his research
is still out there all over the

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Internet for people to talk
about.

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He did a lot of stuff about
after Death too, didn't he?

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Yes.
Yeah.

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And what's crazy about that is,
is he was a very religious man.

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Like in his non meditative
states or whatever hypnotic

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state, wherever he was in, he
was like, from what I

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understand, he was actually
disturbed by his own, you know,

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recountings of these things.
Like, you know, when he would

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come to his conscious mind, he
was like, whoa, like this is

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not.
This goes against my faith, but

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he still did it.
And that's kind of one of the

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things that makes me feel like
he was on point.

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Yeah, I mean, let's put this in
perspective.

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The Atlanteans, OK, That if you
pick up the research trail and

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you're just following this as if
it existed because that's what

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you got to do to follow the
research trail, in my humble

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opinion, OK, You follow that
evidence where it takes you.

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So the evidence was told to me
in oral history.

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It's written extensively.
And then if you follow this to

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Atlanteans coming into the
American E Northeast and

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Southeast and into South America
and Mesoamerica, that means that

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they're with these people as
they come into Florida and

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Georgia later on, OK.
Those people, as we said last

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week, are the ancestors to the
Catalan speaking people who will

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be a Rickera, Pawnee, Wichita to
the Muskogan people.

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And the Creek people talk about
this all the time.

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They're Muskogan.
If I remember right, the Creek

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people talk about Atlanteans,
Cherokee talk about them Sioux

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and speaking people.
And those people from

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Mesoamericans and and South
America are going to be the

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predecessors to the Sioux and
people.

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And remember this, the Hopi are
responsible for some tribes

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around America when they rotate
around because Frank Waters said

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they went four different
directions.

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OK, The Chickasaw and I believe
the Choctaw who are at one time

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in Georgia and Tennessee will
tell you they're from the Hopi,

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as will the NES purse out in
Eastern Washington, Eastern

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Oregon and Idaho.
OK, So the trail is Atlanteans

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to South America.
Those people come into the

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United States and are the
predecessors of many, many

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strong linguistic stocks who
become the stalwarts of what we

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will be brought up on, on TV and
in the history books, people who

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become the Sioux, right?
And they then are called, what

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are they called?
It's the Snakes, OK, Now where

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this all, where this all
collides and where people don't

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realize this is, is, that's the
second peopling of this

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continent.
The third peopling comes out of

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the Bering Land Bridge down
through Alaska, the Yukon

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Territory, all up across all
parts of Canada, down into the

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Northern Plains, Pacific
Northwest.

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Those people again are are said
to be led by the Lenape.

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And then you got the Cree and
the Ojibwa off them.

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And then from there you have all
of these Algonkin people who are

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prodigious warriors who by the
way are highly represented at

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the Little Bighorn that nobody
wants to talk about other than

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Cheyenne and a handful Arapaho,
which is which is a complete

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nonsense.
In the oral history.

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The Cheyenne's did the fighting
at the Little Bighorn.

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There were many Arapaho there,
not just five.

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There's also many grovant who
are close to the Arapaho.

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There's Black Feet, Cree and
Ojibwa at the Little Bighorn.

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Based on oral history that is
kept by all these different

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tribes that went underground as
soon as that battle got over the

447
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,320
4th peopling seems to be Danae
people who become the Apache

448
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,800
Navajo people.
OK.

449
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,960
So, so if you put that in
perspective and you just keep an

450
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,400
open mind that that's how it
goes, before that or during

451
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,640
those migrations, there could
have been floods and there was

452
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:24,920
some kind of a cataclysmic event
that Algonquin people up around

453
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,720
the Great Lakes talk about,
about a meteor crashing and how

454
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,400
they had to go underground for a
number of years to survive that.

455
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:38,600
OK, So you know, again, I'm not
trying to lead anybody.

456
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,160
I'm not trying to tell everybody
that I have all the answers.

457
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,240
I'm just telling you the path
that I'm what's been told to me

458
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,720
and it's been taught to me that
that we need to put all of these

459
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,040
on the table.
You work columns and you see how

460
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,320
many get checks you get on the
left and right and, and, and you

461
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,600
got to do a lot of a lot of
research, a lot of reading

462
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,920
because it's, it's so
overwhelming because you forget

463
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,680
about a lot of it unless you go
back and, and copious amounts of

464
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,000
notes.
But I, I, we're on the right

465
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,320
trail here And, and this
information that's starting to

466
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,600
kind of leak out now.
It, it, it's good because it's

467
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,880
making us look at things in a
much better open minded

468
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,840
possibility.
So, you know, that that's just

469
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,760
kind of, I wanted to bring the
reader back up the OR the

470
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,360
listeners back up to speed, but
go ahead.

471
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,120
Oh man.
Oh shit.

472
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:53,680
Wow.
How long ago was this meteor

473
00:31:53,680 --> 00:32:01,280
impact do you know?
Well, the way I interpreted it,

474
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:08,840
the people who are the Ojibwa,
also known as the Anishinabe,

475
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:17,840
were all around the Great Lakes
and in southern Ontario and in

476
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Manitoba.
Now we know the Ojibwe and the

477
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,800
Cree are two of the biggest
Algonquin linguistic stocks of

478
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,400
people in in all over North
America.

479
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,800
OK.
And they talk about this meteor

480
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:43,080
streaking across and everything
became so hot that they had to

481
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,400
go underwater and underground to
avoid it.

482
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,800
So.
Again, are you talking hundreds,

483
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,560
thousands years, 10,000 years?
I don't think it was.

484
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,920
I don't, I'm, I'm not going to.
I wouldn't want to put my eggs

485
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,920
in the basket of 100,000.
I think you need to come back up

486
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:03,720
closer to your 10,000 number,
and maybe even less than that.

487
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,240
12,800 to 11,600 years multiple
impacts.

488
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,240
That's the younger driest impact
theory.

489
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,920
In between that 1200 year period
there was multiple impacts from

490
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,800
a fragmented comet that you know
has and we still have this, the

491
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,200
torrid meteor shower is
fragments of the same comet.

492
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,520
We still pass through this twice
a year and that's where you get

493
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,200
the meteor showers once in the
spring and once in the fall.

494
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,600
I wonder if there's there's got
to be some sort of engine that

495
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,600
somebody has built, some sort of
simulation where.

496
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:48,080
There is.
Where, Yeah, but where I think.

497
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,720
Boston University, I think.
There's got to be some

498
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,760
simulation where they where they
could have predicted where where

499
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,320
where we would have seen most of
the impacts at.

500
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,840
I wonder if it was anywhere near
the Great Lakes.

501
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,680
It was that's that's right where
my freaking mind went, man.

502
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Well, if you remember them when
I did that younger driest thing,

503
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,480
I mean, that was the, the main
bulk of the impacts were in the

504
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,360
North American ice sheet, which
again was two 2 1/2 miles thick

505
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,880
of ice, right?
So, you know, that's all that

506
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,560
water, that 400 foot of sea
level rise, when those comet

507
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,920
fragments broke up in the
atmosphere and pelted all across

508
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,360
the North American ice sheet,
right?

509
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:33,080
It instantaneously melted
trillions of gallons of, of ice

510
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,040
right into water.
And that's what flooded across

511
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,280
the northern plains.
That's what raised the sea

512
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:39,520
levels.
And again, this happened

513
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,159
multiple times over that 1200
years because we go through

514
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:46,600
this, this part, this debris
field twice a year.

515
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,960
So there was a lot of big
impacts, you know, 1012 thousand

516
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:55,320
years ago, all the way down into
Turkey too, Like I mean across

517
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,200
the whole planet, like Europe
got fucking smacked, you know,

518
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,560
all the way down into Turkey
where Gobekli Tepe is like, and

519
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,000
and that's been dated to right,
right.

520
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,360
Then what would be buried?
Just because my my mind works

521
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,080
like this, just completely off
the path here.

522
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,520
I wonder when the Tunguska
impact was.

523
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,320
This is interesting to me.
All this is super interesting to

524
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,960
me, Lance, for multiple reasons.
One, because like we talked

525
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,040
about this last week, right?
The, the hidden history, the

526
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,920
alternate history and stuff that
we're taught.

527
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,520
But really it's because you're
telling me things that the

528
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,880
native peoples have told you.
And all of these things line up

529
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,640
with all of these other people
who are talking about these

530
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,720
other things, right?
So it's interesting to me, like

531
00:35:37,720 --> 00:35:40,120
even when we talk about like
Atlantis, right?

532
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,760
Like we all know Atlantis comes
from the story from Plato and

533
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,080
his uncle Solon, you know, and
it was all this stuff, right?

534
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Solon went to Egypt and heard
from the Egyptians about

535
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,040
Atlantis, right?
So we all think Plato's account

536
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,400
of Atlantis is like the first,
you know, that's where it all

537
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,720
comes from.
But now you're telling me, no,

538
00:35:58,720 --> 00:36:03,960
all these different people that
were here in the Americas have

539
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,360
stories of Atlantis as well.
So.

540
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,160
Yeah, let me let me take you
down this quick rabbit hole.

541
00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:15,200
So, so again, while I keep, I
keep looking down into all of my

542
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,240
notebooks.
So bear with me because you

543
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,320
know, I, I love to do this, but
I, I, I don't know if I'm just

544
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,000
getting a little bit older and
I'm on overload these days.

545
00:36:25,240 --> 00:36:26,920
I'm just not retaining like I
used to.

546
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,600
So apologies, bear with me.
I'm, I'm going to try to give

547
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,800
you some information that it's
been told to me.

548
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,120
And, and all I can say is the
only time I'll pat myself on the

549
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,320
back.
At least I was smart enough to

550
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:40,120
write it down.
Right.

551
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:47,360
OK, so so we know roughly, I'm
going back in the notes,

552
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,320
somewhere around 11,000 years
ago, Atlantis was destroyed.

553
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,400
Is that destroyed because of
that comet or that meteor?

554
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,280
I don't know, but I believe it
was the Greek.

555
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,720
His name was Solar.
So he's the guy that talked

556
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:09,080
about this because he had gone
all over Egypt and Greece before

557
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:15,520
Socrates and then maybe down to
Persia and the Temple of Sias.

558
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,200
And let's see, he was taught by
Egyptians priest.

559
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,960
And I guess there was some kind
of inscriptions.

560
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,040
It talks about the Earth's
entire history.

561
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,440
Yes, I remember this and said
there were many, many floods and

562
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,880
fires that had Atlantis history
that had that talked about the

563
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Atlanteans being destroyed in
their history there and that

564
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,080
Egypt actually came from the
Atlanteans and there was many

565
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,240
old worlds that we never knew
about and they were destroyed

566
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:56,440
and had powerful knowledge.
Socrates was told this, but

567
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Plato's not even around yet.
Plato taught by Socrates then he

568
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,320
told the Atlantis Atlantis
story, but he couldn't write it

569
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,760
down.
The true Atlantis story he had,

570
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,440
he he had to do it as fiction or
he would be murdered like

571
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,320
Socrates.
We don't want to forget that.

572
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:18,720
OK, Right.
OK, so, so let me tie back into

573
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:24,240
the Native American people here.
So I just talked to you about

574
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:30,440
the Anishinaabe, the Ojibwe.
They talk about how they

575
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,240
directly came from the
Atlanteans.

576
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,640
OK, I forgot about that.
That's why I got to go through

577
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,960
all this stuff again.
So here you have Anishinabe

578
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:47,680
people who say they directly
came from the Atlanteans.

579
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:53,040
Anishinabe are Algonkins who
came out of East Central Asia,

580
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,840
Mongolia, Siberia, islands north
of Japan.

581
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:04,040
So how the hell do they get
involved with these Atlanteans

582
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,840
who clear come out of the
Straits of Gibraltar?

583
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Well, maybe those Algonkins went
across Central Asia.

584
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,800
See, you know, again, we have to
present all of this.

585
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,800
And I could have left that out.
But I want I want everybody to

586
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,640
hear this.
I don't, I don't have an answer.

587
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,920
I'm just telling you, OK.
The second thing I want to bring

588
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:29,360
to your attention real quick is
the Sioux people.

589
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,320
The Sioux people, Lakota, Dakota
Nakota.

590
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:40,160
Nakota talked about worshipping
the serpents, and they talked

591
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,560
about specifically how the
serpents are from the

592
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Atlanteans.
OK, so you got two major

593
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,400
linguistic stocks suing people,
Algonkin people now telling us

594
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,000
that why they battled each
other.

595
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:59,480
They both came from Atlanteans.
I, I just, when you put that out

596
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,960
there and you try to understand
that and wrap your mind about

597
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:08,480
that, that is so real.
Because they, they don't have to

598
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,720
go that far.
And, and, and that's just what

599
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:13,320
these people are.
They have no reason to lie about

600
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,160
these things.
So I just wanted to throw those

601
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,240
things out at you.
That's super interesting.

602
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:23,720
Is there a reason why most of
this history is like oral

603
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:26,120
history?
Yeah.

604
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,760
Is that like, I mean, I I'm
assuming it's done on purpose,

605
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,120
but do you know what that reason
is?

606
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:40,280
Well, that's the traditional
historical way that they they

607
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,680
recorded their their.
No, I understand that.

608
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,680
But like, is there like a
fundamental reason, right.

609
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,400
Like, you know, seems like most
other cultures have a habit of

610
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,280
like etching shit in the stone
or writing it on cowhide or

611
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,680
like, you know, writing this
stuff down for future

612
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,040
generations where it seems like,
you know, native peoples in the

613
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,440
Americas did a lot more oral
passing down.

614
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:09,120
And I just wonder if if that was
like a way for them to not have

615
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,560
their history fucked with or
something.

616
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,160
I don't know, you know well.
I mean, again, that's a whole.

617
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,160
So there's a lot of really neat
information to add to that,

618
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,400
Jeff.
So they they did put this

619
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,200
information down on winter hide
counts on Buffalo robes.

620
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,360
OK, but I've yet to see anything
that would indicate that they're

621
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,520
telling us that they came from
the Atlanteans or the Lemurians.

622
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:42,280
But but again, I I might have
missed something, but I feel

623
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,320
pretty confident that we that
would have been brought to

624
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,480
light.
But let's go back to the Jeremy

625
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,240
talking about oral history.
What I what I have been taught

626
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:58,920
through on my journey is these
people, as we talked about in

627
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:07,360
the last episode, we're so
highly advanced up and I don't

628
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,840
want to say up and tell anything
here because they still are, but

629
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,960
I just want to give the reader
and the listener A-frame a

630
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,280
picture here.
We know it, the little Bighorn,

631
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,240
the government was chasing these
people for these abilities.

632
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,800
And what I'm trying to
articulate here is these

633
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:32,440
abilities to remember and recall
at will and to remember

634
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,280
landmarks that they travelled
over and they were trained as

635
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:42,040
youngsters to recall oral
history and that had a direct

636
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:48,120
impact on keeping knowledge.
OK, So these people worked at

637
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,120
oral history, they worked at
teaching their young oral

638
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:56,880
history and they worked at
reciting oral history because it

639
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,280
might just come in handy to save
them if they're out somewhere,

640
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,200
some ways out in the middle of
nowhere.

641
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:07,000
But also they were taught and
again, I think they had higher,

642
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:12,960
higher capabilities than will
ever know to retain possibly

643
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,200
they have a better abilities to
visualize that what they're

644
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,720
retaining.
OK, we're probably just going to

645
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:23,640
scratch the surface on that,
Jeff, but yeah, they had things

646
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,000
that we don't have any clue of,
man.

647
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,520
That makes sense.
I mean, that I, I guess I didn't

648
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,880
even really consider that,
right?

649
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,080
Because like you were saying
last week, you know, these

650
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,720
people had abilities, right?
They were more in tune.

651
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,440
They were probably accessing the
spirit world on a level that

652
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,840
none of us are, right.
So.

653
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,680
Oh, yeah, that makes more sense
to me.

654
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,120
Like, OK, listen, they were able
to call it access the Akashic

655
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,680
records and not just repeat oral
history, but actually access the

656
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,600
information and then recite it
to you, right?

657
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,000
Like that.
That's kind of what I'm getting

658
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,000
out of that.
Maybe they could do the rituals,

659
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,080
do the thing and access the
Akashic records if you believe

660
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,440
in that kind of thing, and that
is the information that they're

661
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:10,520
able to recite.
So I've sorry, I, I got caught

662
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,200
up going down my own rabbit hole
here.

663
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:17,240
I had to bring up my, my, my
research on hollow Earth here

664
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:21,080
and look at my old script
because I wanted to look at, I

665
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:27,800
wanted to see if timelines lined
up with, with the, the, the

666
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,560
impact that Jeff was talking
about and the impact that you

667
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,160
were talking about in the
Elanians and everything.

668
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,560
And if my research lined up, and
it seems that it does, it's

669
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:43,960
pretty wild, I'm going to I'm
going to read just this

670
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,720
paragraph here from my research.
Sounds.

671
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,720
Good from over a year and a half
ago now, but still it's the The

672
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:57,040
research comes from two books.
The books are The Hollow Earth

673
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:02,920
by David by Doctor Raymond
Bernard, and From the

674
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:08,160
Subterranean World to the Sky,
Flying Saucers by OC Huguenen

675
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,640
and I wrote.
The men describe civilization as

676
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,320
rich, spiritual, scientific, and
having incredible economic,

677
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,240
civil, social, and cultural
developments.

678
00:45:19,240 --> 00:45:22,960
It was Huguenenen who would go
on to eventually explain that

679
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,720
the civilizations of the Inner
Earth were first created by the

680
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:29,800
law societies of Atlantis and
Lemuria after they found refuge

681
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:33,000
under the Earth's surface when
their continents flooded and

682
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,200
eventually sank.
It was the Atlanteans who would

683
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,680
colonize the Inner Earth first
roughly 11,500 years ago and

684
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,600
were eventually joined by the
people of Lamoria 2500 years

685
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,600
ago.
The Atlanteans were considered

686
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,760
to be an extremely
technologically advanced

687
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,000
civilization who use energy
gathered by the atmosphere to

688
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,720
propel craft, known as Vimanas,
which were described as being

689
00:45:55,720 --> 00:45:58,160
identical to the description of
flying saucers.

690
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,760
It was these vimanas that aided
the safe transportation of all

691
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,520
Atlianians through the cavities
of the poles of the earth into

692
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,400
their new subterranean whole
home before their surface home

693
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:11,760
was completely destroyed.
Hugin even goes on to explain

694
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,680
that these vimanas were most
likely only used for

695
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:17,920
interplanetary traveling until
we in the exterior world

696
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,120
announced our existence with the
atomic bomb that was dropped on

697
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,640
Hiroshima in 1945.
These vimanas were first

698
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,360
described in the Indian epic
Ramayana, where a celestial

699
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:34,360
crash from the Vedic period 1500
to 500 BC referred to as a

700
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,840
vamana, which was a bodily
controlled aerial vehicle

701
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,480
capable of traveling great
distances in a very short amount

702
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:47,960
of time.
Vamana, super interesting, man.

703
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:53,600
I definitely want to know more
like I want to know more of the

704
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,200
oral history.
Oh, Speaking of that, Look,

705
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:00,680
look, Lance.
Yeah, mine hasn't come yet.

706
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,240
Where'd you get yours?
I told you I was buying it.

707
00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,120
I wasn't lying to you.
Oh, you got it off Amazon,

708
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:07,840
didn't you?
Tell me more, Lance.

709
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,720
Tell me more of this oral
history, man.

710
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:11,760
What do they, what do they say
about the Atlanteans?

711
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,640
I want to know, man.
I'm super interested.

712
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:25,160
Well, it was.
It was just that people needed

713
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,800
to keep an open mind that these
new gener the the current

714
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,720
generations of Native people and
First Nations were not looking

715
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,520
were not didn't even know their
history.

716
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:38,120
And that was the whole genesis
of a lot of our research was

717
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:44,360
sadly, a lot of those folks had,
you know, they, they weren't

718
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:48,280
able to take that journey that
their ancestors had been to

719
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,000
learn this oral history because
of of all the atrocities

720
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,080
starting with the genocide waged
against the people next to the

721
00:47:56,080 --> 00:48:00,360
boarding schools and then
shipping, shipping people off in

722
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,160
the work programs where they
were trying to get Native

723
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,240
American people out of very
rural areas.

724
00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:10,720
And they were shipping them to
Chicago, Minneapolis, LA,

725
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,240
Albuquerque, Denver, maybe even
Portland.

726
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,280
And, you know, they, they were
destroying their culture by

727
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:25,760
making them go to work.
And so, so we, we lost so much

728
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:27,080
like that.
I think the native people talked

729
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:31,800
about we lost six generations.
But the oral history on the

730
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:37,040
Atlanteans, specifically in the
Lemurians, it's, it's just a few

731
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,960
people at best.
And again, it was just that the

732
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,880
Atlanteans seem to get in on the
eastern side of the of the US,

733
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,640
while the Lemurians came in on
the West side of the US and

734
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,480
western South America, the
Atlanteans on eastern side of

735
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,520
South America.
And from there they worked their

736
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,360
way up with the people.
Were they the leaders of the

737
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,680
people?
I mean, maybe I don't know, I'm

738
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,640
not sure how far we can take it
other than just to constantly go

739
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,560
back into these books by these
people.

740
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:13,280
But this book here Star
Ancestors, Extraterrestrial

741
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,680
Contact in the Native American
Tradition by Nancy Red Star.

742
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:21,200
This is an absolutely
fascinating book.

743
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,720
Came out in the early 90s, Nancy
went on a journey and she was

744
00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:28,280
going around to meet many, many
Native people.

745
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,800
And that book is so full of
stories about the Atlanteans

746
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:38,280
from Cherokee people trying to
think who else maybe people on

747
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,680
the on the northeast.
And she visited with the Hopi a

748
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,960
lot.
So you know, that book right

749
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:51,800
there is, is a very good book.
This book has that guy.

750
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,760
I, I don't know TJ.
I'd like to meet him someday.

751
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,360
He's got other books out there,
but he's done a lot of the

752
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,680
research and he's, he's been
down the same path as me And he,

753
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,600
bless his heart and, and credit
to him, he took the time to keep

754
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:07,800
his butt in the chair and right,
put that book together.

755
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,520
And if people want an
interesting read, get that book.

756
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,520
So on Amazon, I think you can
get it for like $19.00.

757
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,720
He takes a deep dive into a lot
of that stuff.

758
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:25,760
So, and, and I think he, TJ
followed, he, he walked to the

759
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Americas a lot.
I think TJ was, if I remember

760
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,560
right, he was sourcing L Taylor
Hanson and her work.

761
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:38,360
But TJ did a great, he brings
out the stuff on Edgar Cayce and

762
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,800
those guys.
But I mean, look, the bottom

763
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,160
line is the Native American
people, their oral history is

764
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,120
intact.
Well, maybe not all of them know

765
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:54,120
it.
They still have vestiges to a

766
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:58,560
lot, a lot of information and
what I find now fascinating, if

767
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,000
you if we transition from the
Atlanteans to the Lemurians, any

768
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:10,360
more contemporary landscape,
they they talk about back in the

769
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,840
day having ceremonies with the
star people.

770
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,920
Now, you know, I'm not going to
sit here and and and tell you

771
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:24,320
guys or the listeners specific
places or specific names told to

772
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,160
me because that's not my my
story to tell.

773
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:30,880
But I may be able to help you
meet some of these people that

774
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,720
may do it.
And that'll be a hell of an oral

775
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:36,840
history for you, Jeff.
So, but but this stuff is there.

776
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,000
The other oral history talking
about their interactions with

777
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:46,800
the star people and these
Atlanteans is, is that there was

778
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:53,040
a lot of battles like this
ongoing conflict with these star

779
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:58,120
people.
And what I was have been made to

780
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:03,120
understand is that this cosmic
battle that was taking place on

781
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:07,320
Earth that involved native
people was much, much more.

782
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,240
And the only word that I can
describe to you guys now, it was

783
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:16,080
much, much more cosmic.
And I'm not even sure if that's

784
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:22,800
even an accurate description.
What comes to my mind is to

785
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,920
think of it more in the terms of
Star Wars.

786
00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:30,720
And yeah, we can go there to the
trilogy of George Lucas.

787
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,480
But I had one time a Native
American elder.

788
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:40,120
And this person helped me a
tremendous amount open my eyes.

789
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,160
And this person was a tremendous
historian, very, very spiritual.

790
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:52,160
And she made, she told me, and
she was putting this in

791
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,320
contemporary terms for me, but
she said the stuff that was

792
00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:02,280
going on here made that show The
Last Airbender.

793
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:09,800
When there's some show called
The Last Airbender, she talked

794
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,800
about that.
She said that made that show

795
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,240
look pedestrian.
Now I can't make that up, guys.

796
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:22,920
I mean, this is this, this, this
person, so true, so genuine.

797
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:30,200
You know, it's just we, we have
to throw away all of our

798
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,120
preconceived notions about what
was here and how powerful these

799
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,920
people were.
And that's the whole genesis of

800
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:44,200
this conspiracy, if you will,
Jeff, that when the people came

801
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:49,280
over, they had to eradicate not
only these people, they had to

802
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:55,560
eradicate all their forms of
culture and you had to cut off

803
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,600
their spirituality.
So maybe they couldn't access

804
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,680
that stuff again because the you
can't have the dominant society

805
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,040
being portrayed as Dumber than
the ones they killed, right?

806
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,920
It's almost like they're doing
that now just with, you know,

807
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,640
technological advances that
they're doing it in the in the

808
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:17,280
6th generational way to us now
where, you know, they're, I say

809
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,480
this a lot like it's a spiritual
warfare, right?

810
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,240
And it's seems like it was back
then too.

811
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:25,800
And it makes total sense to me.
Wipe all of it off because it's

812
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,920
more powerful than our, you
know, industrial age that we

813
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,320
were getting into, right?
They, they can't have that shit

814
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,200
competing.
You know, it's when you talk

815
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,440
about like, energy and like
electricity and like, we were

816
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,520
using all that kind of stuff.
Like right around this time,

817
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,880
right, Right in the the end of
the 1800s, we start moving into

818
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,320
all this stuff.
You have to get rid of all the

819
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:53,440
holistic shit to make way for
this new synthetic world, right?

820
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:54,800
This new world order?
Yeah.

821
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:01,520
I mean, look, there's, there's
oral history shared to me that

822
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:06,040
talks about the native people
fighting these different groups

823
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,640
of star people.
Some said, like they said, the

824
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,120
great, like we said last week,
the greys that were indigenous

825
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:15,440
to this continent when they got
here or either they were put

826
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,280
here before the the native
people get to the ability to

827
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,840
fight them.
OK, so that that's one side of

828
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,600
the story.
What I found even more

829
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,600
fascinating was a lot of history
shared to me talked about the

830
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,360
natives fighting with these
spiritual beings who are their

831
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,920
allies and these spiritual
beings.

832
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,640
And I can't tell you any of
their names.

833
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,040
I can't tell you exactly where
this happened.

834
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,120
And if I, if I could, I
wouldn't.

835
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:51,640
I'd want the native people to
come on here and tell you, but I

836
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,920
can't take it back that far.
But what there's, there's

837
00:55:53,920 --> 00:56:02,080
stories about what these
spiritual beings are and star

838
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:07,640
people gave the native people to
help them battle these other

839
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:12,640
star people.
And it's mind boggling the

840
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,920
information they they were, they
were talking about.

841
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,000
There's, there's two things that
I can share.

842
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:24,080
One has to do with the blood of
these spirit, these star people,

843
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:29,800
these these spirit beings that
had to do with that their blood.

844
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,520
And I can't remember exactly all
of it, but if something about

845
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:45,120
their blood could be used to the
benefit of their allies, I'm

846
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,480
sorry, I can't remember all of
that.

847
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:48,560
I should have looked back in my
notes.

848
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,240
You're good, man.
The second part about this is,

849
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,040
you know how we've been catching
a lot of this stuff about the

850
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:01,920
the so-called the predator
popping up, about people being

851
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,400
out of the woods hunting.
Dave Politis brought it to

852
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:10,600
light.
Yeah, the the distorted, the

853
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:15,840
cloaked creature, Yeah.
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff

854
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,960
about that, about the the people
who are called Bigfoot or

855
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,640
Sasquatch, derogatory term by
white America.

856
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,160
Native people will call them the
forest people, Big Brother or

857
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:34,080
the people.
And and so they get lumped into

858
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,480
that as well, that pixelation.
And, and I don't know what this

859
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:43,800
pixelation is, but I can tell
you that native people from the

860
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,760
star people had a way to do
that.

861
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:52,280
OK, Now I'm not going to tell
you the rest of that because

862
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,280
it's not for me to say.
And hopefully we can get you

863
00:57:56,280 --> 00:58:00,280
some guesses as as time goes on
this summer and next fall that

864
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,880
can elaborate on that.
And frankly, it'd be better for

865
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,520
them to tell you because if I
told you what had been told to

866
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,480
me, we'll, we'll lose people on
this one because it's so simple

867
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:17,960
of what they were given that
they used to do this.

868
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:25,960
And what's mind boggling about
it is, is that the gentleman

869
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:27,960
that I was telling you about,
the old intelligence non

870
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:34,440
commissioned officer, when I was
with him for a number of years,

871
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,320
kind of a like an
apprenticeship, so to speak.

872
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,560
And again, I'm very, very lucky
that this man thought enough of

873
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,840
me to share this information and
to teach me.

874
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,320
When he and I were discussing
that at length, he was showing

875
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:58,040
me an old documentation how to
look for the true names of these

876
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:04,960
old, old Native American bands.
So for instance, he said, look

877
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:08,920
at the old trapper journals and
the old journals from the Jesuit

878
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:15,440
priest and missionaries.
And he was talking about look

879
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,280
for commonalities in a name.
OK.

880
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:27,400
So for instance, one of the ones
that he was showing me and

881
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:32,600
they're suing people.
They had their bands and their

882
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,520
locations always had to do with
fish and fish scales.

883
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,720
Now, why that seems kind of
boring or pedestrian.

884
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,560
Yeah, it is.
But what he was showing me was

885
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:49,720
that's a telltale sign that they
weren't lying.

886
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,520
OK, because there was a
commonality.

887
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,720
Now he then takes it 2 steps
further to say, well, what do

888
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,760
you think?
Why do you think there's telling

889
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,480
that story?
And I, I said, I I wouldn't have

890
01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:08,360
the clueless the clue.
Well, that's not the answer he

891
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,080
wanted to hear.
He said, think harder and come

892
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,280
back to me on that.
So I'd go off and you know.

893
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:19,760
I don't want to sound too cliche
here, but you know, like, you

894
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:23,080
know, like young grasshopper,
you know, go study this.

895
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,760
And so I went to him and again,
I failed him.

896
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:32,680
But he so because I was only
with him for like short bursts

897
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,440
of time and you know, I didn't
have two weeks to go off on my

898
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,360
own and learn this.
This was like over a 2 hour

899
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,880
period.
We're moving on, moving on.

900
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:45,960
But he was making me understand
that those people were the

901
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:51,640
original bands of the Dakota,
the suing people who come from

902
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,800
these snake people who are
saying that they're Atlanteans.

903
01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:01,040
OK, follow the trail here,
Atlanteans to suing people who

904
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,600
who their parent stock is the
Dakota.

905
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:12,440
Dakota, for all those listening,
and one of their parent bands in

906
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:19,720
their name had fish scales, fish
eaters, but fish scale was in

907
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,080
those peoples all, all across
their information.

908
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:29,200
OK, now the reason I'm bringing
that up and taking you on this

909
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:36,680
rabbit hole, so to speak, is
those fish scales relate

910
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:40,760
directly to what I'm telling you
about the pixelation and the

911
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:41,960
predator.
You follow me.

912
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:45,680
Yeah.
I'll leave it at that for now

913
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,440
because the rest of that story
needs to come from those people.

914
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:53,520
And, you know, they can
certainly share about that

915
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:55,960
without giving away too much
information.

916
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:02,320
OK, but but just let's put that
in perspective. 1600s, they're

917
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:09,040
telling us where they came from.
And then I'm catching pieces of

918
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:15,920
this from different people that
they had the ability to use some

919
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:19,480
of these gifts given to them
from star people or possibly the

920
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,800
Atlanteans, or maybe they're one
and both, right, that helped

921
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:30,640
them cloak.
OK, well, if that's the case,

922
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,120
then we all should probably wake
the hell up a little bit and

923
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,120
start trying to visit with the
native people because, you know,

924
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,560
yeah, I put a lot of time into
this yet.

925
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,880
Yes, it's been my journey.
Is it a lot of work and a lot of

926
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:46,760
travel?
Well, yeah.

927
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,200
But it's very, I guess what I'm
trying to tell the listener and

928
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:56,320
people out there is that if I
can do it, so could you, Right.

929
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,880
There's protocols and procedures
you got to do, but there's ways

930
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:08,120
to do this.
OK, I don't know where to go

931
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,920
from there.
I would be honest with you, man.

932
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,400
I mean, there, there's, there's
so many.

933
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:23,200
Gosh, there's so many.
I guess there's, there's so many

934
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:28,400
accounts of, of the predator
cloaking, right, man?

935
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,120
It's the best way to describe
it.

936
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,840
Yeah, dude, it's that's why I
brought it up.

937
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,560
That's it's, it's, it's time to
throw this out there, man.

938
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:39,920
You guys need to take this and
run with this.

939
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:46,320
OK, because again, I'm, I'm
trying to draw a parallel here

940
01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:52,520
to you star people, Atlanteans
to A, to a major group of, of

941
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,360
First Nations and native people,
the Sioux and speaking people.

942
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:03,680
And, and one of their parent
bands is, is out there telling

943
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:12,240
the world that they're where,
where they camped and, and, and

944
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,600
their different band tribe names
were had the fish scales in it,

945
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,320
fish eaters, all this different
stuff.

946
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:28,520
And then I come along and, oh,
by the way, you know, oh, hey,

947
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,960
you know, Lance, they why do you
think they're named like that?

948
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:36,120
Well, I don't know.
Well, it's because those fish

949
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,400
scales, in some way or shape or
form, were a gift from the star

950
01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:47,360
people that helped their
warriors cloak themselves like

951
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:54,400
the Predator 1617 or 1800s.
OK, now the skeptic might ask,

952
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:58,360
well, then why didn't they use
those abilities against the US

953
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,600
Army and defeat the Army with
those abilities?

954
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,920
And to that I have no, I don't
have any answer.

955
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,640
I don't have any recourse.
That's a hell of a great

956
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:13,120
question.
And I thought about that many

957
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,880
times myself, right?
If you have those abilities, why

958
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,440
did you not use them, right.
I think that's an honest

959
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,680
question, don't you guys?
Yeah, that's a good question.

960
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:26,200
Yeah, you know, listen, you
actually made me think of

961
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,040
something too.
I don't know if this is

962
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:33,080
connected, but I imagine it
probably is, and I'm trying to

963
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,200
figure out what this is called.
Dagon.

964
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,920
Are you familiar with Dagon?
You're talking.

965
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,240
About the go ahead.
The people from Africa.

966
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,640
Well, yeah, there's a Dagon, the
fish God.

967
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:51,560
Absolutely my friend.
That's a great catch on your

968
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,520
part because the the the entity
that brings them their

969
01:05:55,520 --> 01:06:00,120
information is a fish.
That's the connection.

970
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,720
It's like I got a picture pulled
up just for the people who want

971
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:02,880
to.
See.

972
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:03,960
Yeah, that's it.
Yeah.

973
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,120
The light is.
Gonna here here I can do it

974
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:08,960
over.
Here, pull it up.

975
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:13,120
But this and some people.
Send it to me.

976
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:16,760
OK, well, let me ramp first and
then I'll send it to.

977
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:17,440
You OK?
Hold on.

978
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,120
He's got a picture.
There you go.

979
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:24,520
So some people, you know, like
Graham Hancock and and Randall

980
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:27,040
Carlson and some of these
researchers out here that are

981
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:31,080
looking into like, you know,
Younger Dryas and and ancient

982
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:36,160
history stuff.
They talk about the idea that

983
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:42,960
this being which has been shown
in cultures all over the world,

984
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,280
right?
This and they have different

985
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,520
names form everywhere, but there
seems to be this being who walks

986
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:53,920
around with what Graham Hancock
calls the you know his man bag,

987
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,360
right?
He's got this satchel in his

988
01:06:55,360 --> 01:07:00,120
hand and he's wearing fish
scales or a fish body as his as

989
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:03,040
his head as his helmet.
There you go.

990
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,120
See that black and white relief
on the in the middle at the

991
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,160
bottom?
Yep.

992
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,720
Click on that.
See if you can zoom in.

993
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,640
Right click it and go to open
image and new tab.

994
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,600
You might have to reshare to
show that tab.

995
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:23,120
But anyways, so the idea is that
this being, you know, whether it

996
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,760
was before or after the
cataclysms 12,000 years ago, was

997
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,120
the beings or group of beings
that were going around sharing

998
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,080
the information.
They were giving the information

999
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,120
to the Central American tribes
and the South American tribes,

1000
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,840
right?
That's that's their idea of it.

1001
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,440
But what what you're saying
makes me think that these were

1002
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:46,080
literal representations of the
star people or whoever they were

1003
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,600
that were bringing this stuff.
And when they say, hey, look,

1004
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,000
the fish, the fish scales, these
these fish scales were giving us

1005
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,360
the ability to cloak.
Was it specifically the fish

1006
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,440
scales that were making them
cloak?

1007
01:07:56,440 --> 01:08:00,640
Or was that just like a hint or
a reference to this Dagon, the

1008
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,720
fish God who brought them the
information and brought them the

1009
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,960
tools that they needed to do
what they needed to do?

1010
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:10,320
Yeah, Jeff, you, Jeff, you're on
it.

1011
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:15,640
Listen, you guys know you'll get
this one called the serious

1012
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,560
mystery was Earth visited by
intelligent beings from a planet

1013
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:24,600
in the system of the star of
Sirius Robert Cagey Temple and

1014
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:33,040
it's the Dogon people of western
Africa and this this fish this

1015
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:40,560
this I'll call it an entity
here.

1016
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:44,279
Let me read to you.
He was the amphibious being

1017
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:48,240
mentioned by the astronomer Carl
Sagan from the Sumerian

1018
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:52,040
traditions, and was the bringer
of civilization to man.

1019
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,600
In other words, beings of this
type would be a bit like

1020
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,479
mermaids or mermen, and might in
some reason and might in some

1021
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:04,760
way resemble our intelligent
friends the dolphins.

1022
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:09,880
I think that's a hell of a place
to start.

1023
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,279
Yeah.
And it is interesting, you know,

1024
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,040
that it's found in all these
different cultures and it's not

1025
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,120
the exact same depiction of this
being, but.

1026
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,880
Very.
Similar and it's in all of them

1027
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:25,000
have that little man bag, that
little satchel, whatever that is

1028
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,880
and is that the information or
is that the tools?

1029
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:31,240
Is that whatever it is?
When you were saying that about,

1030
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:35,920
you know, them getting this this
help, that's where my mind went.

1031
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,520
Was this right here?
I mean, I mean, look, guys, you,

1032
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,960
we, we can't make this up.
You see how the three of us are

1033
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:47,200
just having a conversation and
by the three of us just throwing

1034
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:51,960
out stuff and just talking like
friends and, and, and Jeff, you

1035
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,920
took it right to it, man.
I mean, see, that's what we

1036
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:59,200
should be doing is having these
conversations with no bias, no

1037
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,640
preconceived notions and, and,
and also not afraid to just

1038
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:09,440
throw it all out there.
Maybe we get it wrong, but damn,

1039
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,600
you see where that just went?
Yeah, that's pretty good.

1040
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,280
That's a.
Rabbit hole, baby.

1041
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:18,400
Yeah.
But again, we're not the first

1042
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:22,160
to bring it up.
I mean, what's what, what's the,

1043
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:23,720
what's the chances of that,
right?

1044
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,760
Right.
Well, here's the thing that's

1045
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,440
interesting to me, Lance, is
I've been into this my whole

1046
01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:32,720
life, man, right?
And I have never, I mean, I

1047
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,840
listen, I've gotten a little bit
into like Native American

1048
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:39,120
stories and, and stuff like
that, right?

1049
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,440
Like I'm familiar with the Hopi
story, right?

1050
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:45,600
I'm familiar with some of these
ideas, you know, some of the

1051
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,840
locations, the mound builders,
like I, I get and I, I got an

1052
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,000
idea of it.
But I even with all of that, in

1053
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,920
the years and years that I've
looked into this stuff and I

1054
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,560
can, I can tell you Dogon the
fish got off the top of my

1055
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,400
right.
I had no idea that all of these,

1056
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:03,120
these, you know, real Americans,
right, The originals that were

1057
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,240
here, like, they also have all
these stories.

1058
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,560
I had no clue.
And it's mind blowing to me.

1059
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,520
Yeah.
It, it, it was a small world

1060
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:15,120
back then, my friend.
And we, we lumped these people

1061
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:19,040
as very static.
It's not the case.

1062
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:21,280
They were moving all over the
place.

1063
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:27,520
And so you have to ask yourself,
what did they know that we don't

1064
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,440
know?
How did they transverse the

1065
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:38,520
oceans by just using the stars
or maybe even other forms of

1066
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,240
navigation that we don't know?
Or were they possibly able to do

1067
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:48,120
this by means that we can't wrap
our minds about?

1068
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,880
And I firmly believe there's
something to that, that they had

1069
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:57,400
these abilities to remote view.
Like I told you last week, it's

1070
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:04,560
been made explicitly clear to me
that no war party ever went out

1071
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:10,320
with one of these medicine men
who could basically remote view.

1072
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,840
So basically, they had the
ability to be a drone.

1073
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:19,400
OK, let that sink in.
Possibly they had the ability to

1074
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,600
telepathically communicate, to
talk to each other.

1075
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:31,760
Then maybe they had the ability
to change their bodily form into

1076
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,680
the form of an animal that can
move much different.

1077
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:41,720
Did they have the ability to see
through maybe a Raven or a hawk

1078
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,280
or an eagle's eyes?
Possibly.

1079
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:46,160
That's depicted in a lot of
film.

1080
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,960
Right, I'll tell you, I just
recently came across this wild

1081
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:55,920
theory man, and this this is
this is playing right into it.

1082
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,840
And it kind of mixes a little
bit about what you're talking

1083
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:04,280
about into something that we had
started talking about early last

1084
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,480
week.
And that was the UFO disclosure

1085
01:13:06,480 --> 01:13:11,040
stuff.
And I can't remember the source.

1086
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,120
It's going to bother the shit
out of me.

1087
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:20,960
But anyways, anyways, going to
talk about it any anyways, I was

1088
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:25,920
reading that they're they're
because of all the CE5 stuff

1089
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,800
that's coming out.
You have you heard about the CE5

1090
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,840
stuff, the the close encounters
of the fifth kind stuff where

1091
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:35,280
you you call out with your mind,
you're able to contact UFOs and

1092
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,240
everything.
Well, there there's this new

1093
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:41,760
theory that's starting to pop up
that UFOs aren't necessarily

1094
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:47,720
physical at all.
That they're they're, they're

1095
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:53,240
more or less along the lines of
geez, what?

1096
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:54,840
What the heck are those things
called?

1097
01:13:58,440 --> 01:14:04,920
Oh.
It's going to bother me shoot

1098
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:12,640
drawing a blank here, but they
they come into reality when

1099
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:17,840
needed or when when thought of
and basically comes in there.

1100
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,360
They're mental drones, if you
will, that come into the

1101
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:25,840
physical space When, when, when,
when your mind calls upon them

1102
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:31,920
and they, they, they, they, they
become a physical property when

1103
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:39,480
the mental mind uses them for
things such as remote viewing

1104
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:44,080
purposes.
So if you, if you take things,

1105
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:46,440
and I'm not necessarily saying I
believe this at all.

1106
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:48,760
I just think it's an interesting
concept and, and I think it's,

1107
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:52,400
it'd be fun to talk about.
You look at the things as such

1108
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,560
as the, yeah, skeeter's right.
The tulpa.

1109
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,040
That's exactly what I was
thinking about was the tulpa

1110
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:04,840
concept where.
But if you start thinking about

1111
01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,280
the way that they move, right,
it's very unnatural.

1112
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,160
It's, it's, it doesn't abide by
our physics, right?

1113
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:15,080
You know, we, we, we go into all
these concepts of, well, in

1114
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:20,000
order for that to work, like
Elizondo had talked about and

1115
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:26,280
he, he went into how, how he
went to how put Hoff and how put

1116
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:30,880
Hoff said that the only way for
this to work is that you have to

1117
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,960
manipulate gravity, right?
You have to manipulate gravity

1118
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:40,400
in in a, in a spherical field
around this craft to remove all

1119
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:44,480
particulates, even molecules of
air around the craft to

1120
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:49,360
literally create a bubble vacuum
around it to to remove any sort

1121
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:54,440
of G force on the occupants and
the material to craft itself so

1122
01:15:54,440 --> 01:15:58,000
that they can move in such ways.
And that would literally allow

1123
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,240
it to go from from one domain
such as space into another

1124
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:04,760
domain such as air into another
domain such as the water without

1125
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:09,280
ever breaking stride.
And you know, we see, we see

1126
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,760
evidence of these crafts going
from the air into the water

1127
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,600
without making a splash, without
slowing down, without being

1128
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,240
affected at all or affecting its
surroundings.

1129
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:25,280
Now, if these things weren't
technically physical and they

1130
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:31,160
were only created as a a
physical thing to our point of

1131
01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:36,480
view, if you will, and they were
being used by some remote viewer

1132
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:42,720
as a sort of let's let's tie,
let's tie simulation theory in

1133
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:44,960
into it just for the hell of it,
right?

1134
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:51,880
If they were some sort of remote
camera for the sense of out of

1135
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:56,760
body experiences, such as remote
viewing, not out of body

1136
01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:00,000
experiences such as like you die
and your, your soul leaves your

1137
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:06,000
body, but as in, you know, your
consciousness leaving your body

1138
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,280
and you having control over
where you go and what you see.

1139
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,120
That's just a, a concept that I
came across the other day and I

1140
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,960
just thought that it was, it was
weird how that kind of connected

1141
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,800
to what you were, you were just
talking about.

1142
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,520
It's, it's just like one of
those weird synchronicity things

1143
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:27,280
that, you know, I, I don't even
know if you can necessarily call

1144
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,640
it a synchronicity.
It was just weird coincidence.

1145
01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:36,000
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, super interesting stuff.

1146
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,560
I'm actually excited to read
this book man, not going to lie.

1147
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:44,120
I just read read the little like
notations on the back and I'm

1148
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:49,000
like extra hyped to read this.
That almost put Jeff to sleep.

1149
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:54,160
I don't read books very often,
you know, I'm more of a, you

1150
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,880
know, I like to consume my
information visually, but I'll

1151
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:02,040
read this one.
Well, that that one will get

1152
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:10,760
your attention and that man,
he's putting it out there and if

1153
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:15,200
anybody has the so-called right
to do it, his family has the

1154
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:22,600
lineage to do it.
And that that might be a whole

1155
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:28,000
nother show to possibly help you
guys meet him and have him on

1156
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,960
eventually sometime down the you
know, because there's no sense

1157
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,400
of me sitting on here and
regurgitating what's in that

1158
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:42,960
book because it's it's not.
I'm a complete novice for me to

1159
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:49,640
even try to articulate what he
is trying to tell us about the

1160
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:57,240
abilities and what to say the
other side and a hole in the

1161
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:03,200
powers that these people had and
the world they walked in and how

1162
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:07,960
it was interchangeable.
And that wasn't that long ago.

1163
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:09,000
OK.
Yeah.

1164
01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:17,120
And yeah, I mean, I mean, look
the up until right before the

1165
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:23,520
Korean War, which is 53 to 5050
to 53 on one of the reservations

1166
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:32,240
every year about coming up to
commemorate the Battle of the

1167
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,320
Little Bighorn.
These these people who were

1168
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:38,240
there and enforce who were part
of the group that defeated the

1169
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:43,920
7th Calvary.
And they had one atrocity heaped

1170
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:49,480
upon them after another,
alcoholism, unemployment,

1171
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,000
terrible schools.
I can I can go down and down the

1172
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,320
route.
But they still got together in a

1173
01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:01,840
very remote part of this
reservation to commemorate this

1174
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:02,840
battle.
OK.

1175
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:11,920
And the reason I'm bringing this
up is because in the same area

1176
01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:16,800
where these people were getting
together right up until the

1177
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:28,080
Korean War, I was told that
these people who you know, you

1178
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:32,960
might call star people.
I don't want to throw out UFO,

1179
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:37,800
UAP, all that terminology
because then, you know, people

1180
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,000
take it to a whole nother
genera.

1181
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,240
I'm not saying these people are
coming from the stars.

1182
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,440
I I think they are, but they
could have always been here.

1183
01:20:46,440 --> 01:20:49,160
They may just be coming from
another dimension or they may be

1184
01:20:49,160 --> 01:20:52,120
coming from underground for all
I know, like Jeremy was talking

1185
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:56,000
about.
But alls I can tell you is where

1186
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,680
I pick up the story is this
stops during the Korean War.

1187
01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:08,000
So let's just say from 1890 to
1950, a period, a period of 60

1188
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:12,560
years, they're commemorating
their greatest victory, but it

1189
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,360
was also their people's defeat
in the long run.

1190
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:21,880
They are having encounters with
people from just another world,

1191
01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:26,600
right?
OK, fine, whatever that that

1192
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,360
where this where this becomes so
fascinating.

1193
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,280
And what I can share without
getting into the details, I

1194
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:37,880
won't, is that three different
tribes have told me the same

1195
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,720
story about what was going on
there.

1196
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:51,240
And they describe these, we'll
call them star people.

1197
01:21:52,120 --> 01:21:55,400
These star people, they describe
all, all of them the same way,

1198
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,880
how they moved, what they looked
like, what they wore.

1199
01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:07,600
And what I found so damn
interesting was is that they,

1200
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,440
they don't talk about these
people coming in any crafts.

1201
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,280
They said they kind of moved and
went across the the landscape

1202
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:21,080
kind of like they, they collided
or floated, but they talked

1203
01:22:21,080 --> 01:22:24,640
about these sparks coming out of
the back of their heels.

1204
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,960
Now, were they, were they on
some kind of a device?

1205
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:33,160
Hell, I don't know.
But you got three different

1206
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:38,440
groups of people telling me the
same story because that group of

1207
01:22:38,440 --> 01:22:40,680
people were all together at the
Little Big Horn.

1208
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:45,080
They had were all intermarried.
They had been fighting together

1209
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:49,600
for thousands of years and they
were together because all were

1210
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:54,080
one at one time.
And so are these people that are

1211
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,480
coming to see them.
Were they the good star people

1212
01:22:56,480 --> 01:23:00,080
that had helped them for
hundreds of thousands of years?

1213
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,600
Were they now friends?
Have they been foes before?

1214
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:05,000
I don't know.
I don't know if we'll ever find

1215
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,440
out.
But I can tell you that there's

1216
01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:09,800
a lot of native people,
unfortunately, that don't even

1217
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:17,280
know that history, OK.
And it's so wild because these

1218
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:22,000
people, I probably would not
have shared a lot of this

1219
01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:25,920
information had it not been for
the little Bighorn being the

1220
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,400
catalyst for me to be on this
trail.

1221
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,960
And, you know, I was getting
referral after referral to these

1222
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,400
people, trying to track this
back.

1223
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:41,920
And the man who told me this
history, he himself was a Korean

1224
01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:48,800
War veteran, became an educator,
taught for years, very humble,

1225
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,680
did 2 combat jumps into Korea.
Think about that.

1226
01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:58,520
OK, some serious guts.
And we're, we're talking, we're

1227
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:03,600
talking, we're talking about
history here, guys of

1228
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,640
interacting.
And yet we've got all of these

1229
01:24:07,640 --> 01:24:11,720
guys running around on
contemporary social media,

1230
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:16,960
whether it be YouTube or we got,
of course, the famous X, right?

1231
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:23,640
Well, to me, that story in
itself is a hell of a lot better

1232
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,640
than these guys throwing out a
photo of a UFO.

1233
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:30,160
And I'm not attacking Lou
Elizondo, OK?

1234
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:35,520
I mean, we all make mistakes.
Shit, I guess what I'm trying to

1235
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:38,120
articulate is this.
This stuff makes that look like

1236
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,400
baby crap.
And it is.

1237
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:46,080
This isn't about me.
Go talk to those people for

1238
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,880
God's sakes.
But there's a right way to do

1239
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:51,000
it.
And, and you got to go into it

1240
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:57,240
on their terms and as, and as,
and you know, I've been trying

1241
01:24:57,240 --> 01:25:00,800
to articulate to this to you
guys and to your listeners, if,

1242
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,840
if I can do it in the right way
and respectful way.

1243
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:08,520
And there is a right way and a
respectful way to learn this,

1244
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,440
have things taught to you that
you can share back to the world.

1245
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,440
And I'm not getting into the
specifics.

1246
01:25:14,440 --> 01:25:17,040
You guys realize this, You know,
I'm not telling you where

1247
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,200
exactly this happened.
I'm not dropping names.

1248
01:25:19,480 --> 01:25:24,080
I'm just giving you a very broad
stroke of this ancient history

1249
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:28,840
that goes back to the people
that fought at the Little

1250
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:32,360
Bighorn, who their descendants
are.

1251
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,160
And they're still talking about
this epic event and up until

1252
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:42,840
1950.
And oh, by the way, guess who

1253
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,680
comes to see us?
Well, I don't know who people

1254
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,640
from the stars.
I mean, you know, you just got

1255
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:54,400
to sit there and just like try
to get your bearings and shake

1256
01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,960
your head, get past your
ontological shock, you know, and

1257
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:09,960
like focus because it's just, it
can be, you know, it can be

1258
01:26:09,960 --> 01:26:16,160
rather, I guess, just again,
ontologically shocking because

1259
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:20,080
our mind can't go there, right?
But once you keep an open mind

1260
01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:24,280
and go there and you hear these
stories over and over and

1261
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:28,000
they're not stories, they're
history, by the way, because

1262
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:35,840
this man is still alive and it's
just so prevalent.

1263
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,960
Well, yet it's to me, it's just
another part of this whitewashed

1264
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:45,280
cover up that again, I'm not
attacking these guys that are

1265
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,000
trying to do the right thing.
I don't know who's good.

1266
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:51,000
I don't know who's bad.
Frankly, I don't give a shit.

1267
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,160
I don't, I don't.
I think Doctor Steven Greer has

1268
01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:57,960
done great work to start this.
I don't know the man, so I can't

1269
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,160
sit here.
Jeremy Corbell, George Knapp,

1270
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,880
Lou Elizondo, Chris Mellon, all
these guys.

1271
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:10,680
David Grush, Jake Barber.
But what do you not hear them

1272
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,200
do?
They're not talking to Native

1273
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:20,760
people, you know.
I'll get off my soapbox on that.

1274
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:24,960
No, I mean it, you know, look,
man, they they did a hell of a

1275
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:28,360
job at, at a racing history,
right?

1276
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,720
I've said this for years and,
and this whole thing that you're

1277
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:35,480
bringing to us is like just a
whole like other chapter for

1278
01:27:35,480 --> 01:27:38,600
that, you know, so, and like I
said, I've been into this for so

1279
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,680
long and you know, I feel like
I've got a good grasp on it, but

1280
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:44,480
not on this part of it.
So now I got like something that

1281
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:46,520
I'm going to start, I'm going to
be digging it.

1282
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,480
I've already got like 8 pages
pulled up in my browser on my

1283
01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:52,560
phone.
I'm like, yo, let me see, I'm

1284
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:53,720
sorry.
I'm gonna have a freaking

1285
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,480
conspiracy board with the red
fucking yarn.

1286
01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:59,280
And you know, I'm about to go
deep on this now.

1287
01:27:59,600 --> 01:28:06,200
It's it's so it's crazy because
every everyday it's like I, I

1288
01:28:06,200 --> 01:28:08,480
find new things that I have to
research.

1289
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:13,000
And it's the last two weeks,
Lance, it's been like, man,

1290
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:21,560
there's a whole section of
history that I've I've I I've

1291
01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:25,000
known about, right?
I've touched base with I've,

1292
01:28:25,480 --> 01:28:30,320
I've visited right, And in the,
in the aspect of, you know, I,

1293
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,080
I've research Skinwalker Ranch,
I've researched the, the legend,

1294
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,680
the Wendigo and other various
aspects, right.

1295
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:45,600
But I haven't dove into the real
stuff, the real history, the

1296
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,440
real stuff that they're covering
up in the aspects of the Native

1297
01:28:48,440 --> 01:28:52,720
Americans.
Yeah, I think once you get into

1298
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,080
like mound building cultures
too, man, like that's a big

1299
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:57,840
that's a big thing.
And and Lance, you know, you

1300
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:01,160
said you will never know about
the first peopling, right?

1301
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,560
But you know, I can I I'd
speculate that it's probably the

1302
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:07,360
mound builders like you said,
you know, and when you get into

1303
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:09,800
that and you get into those
stories from that giant of

1304
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,440
America book and you see some of
the stuff that they were digging

1305
01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:15,880
out of those mounds, not just
the giant skeletons, but some of

1306
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,440
the artifacts and some of the
the what's the word?

1307
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:21,880
Like?
I don't want to say like

1308
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:25,000
treasures, but you know, the
treasures and the things that

1309
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:28,240
were buried in those mounds with
the giants too, and, and not and

1310
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,280
the placement too, because and a
lot of those mounds they were

1311
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:35,160
digging up, they were finding
like the giant skeleton in the

1312
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,920
center of these mounds.
And all of the native peoples

1313
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,920
that were buried, you know,
after them were buried with

1314
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:46,680
their, I believe their heads all
facing inwards towards, you

1315
01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,440
know, this, this giant.
So like they were revered as

1316
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:54,880
something royalty or gods or you
know, the original, I don't

1317
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,960
know, whatever it was, they they
were definitely like high up on

1318
01:29:57,960 --> 01:29:59,960
the food chain, those giant
peoples.

1319
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:04,840
And then you get into like all
this stuff when I talk about

1320
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,080
this, when I talk about
dinosaurs are fake, right?

1321
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:11,080
How I think that when they dig
up a dinosaur bone, what they're

1322
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:14,120
really doing is digging up giant
bones and they can't tell us

1323
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,680
that's they got to make up some
bullshit about dinosaurs, right?

1324
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:23,400
There's, there's definitely like
something, call it spooky that

1325
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:28,560
they didn't want us to know
about, you know, like 100% not

1326
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,360
even a shadow of a doubt in my
mind about that.

1327
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:32,280
Now I want to know what it is
you know.

1328
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,240
Now I want to go figure it out
and like learn as much as I can.

1329
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:41,920
Well, somebody needs to once and
for all dig into this whole

1330
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,680
Grand Canyon thing, you know,
follow the trail with that

1331
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:52,640
Kincaid that went in there.
You know, native people, if you

1332
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,800
get to know enough of them, will
tell you that it's not a mystery

1333
01:30:55,800 --> 01:31:00,960
to them who are down there.
They, they talk about the I

1334
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,640
think if it was the Phoenicians
and Egyptians, the Egyptians

1335
01:31:04,640 --> 01:31:10,360
wanted back their contact of the
Smithsonian, the story was, and

1336
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,840
wanted back their material that
the Smithsonian think pulled out

1337
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:18,000
of there in the early 1900s.
Or they said destroy it.

1338
01:31:18,480 --> 01:31:21,240
I mean, that that thing's been
so covered up you can't even get

1339
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:26,040
down there anymore.
Now, you know, I mean, listen, I

1340
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,480
want to do a quick plug out for
a guy named Terry L Carter.

1341
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:34,960
I may have said this last week.
Terry L Carter, go on Facebook.

1342
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:40,520
That man has been doing yeoman's
work, putting out videos, and I

1343
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:41,600
think they're on YouTube.
You.

1344
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:46,520
Did.
Interviewing people guys who and

1345
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:51,480
ladies who who have tremendous
amounts of courage and where it

1346
01:31:51,480 --> 01:31:55,440
all and determination not only
to be researchers, but to

1347
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:58,960
physically go out into the
middle of remote, remote areas

1348
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:03,280
of our great West hunting these
treasures in Colorado, Arizona,

1349
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:07,960
New Mexico, Utah.
He's got some stories on there

1350
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,520
about a, there's an older couple
who did some really digging into

1351
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:16,840
the Grand Canyon and they, they
basically got harassed.

1352
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:20,440
But I don't want to give away
too much on there.

1353
01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:25,440
But Terry, Terry may be a good
guest for you guys to have on

1354
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,480
That would be 1 hell of a show.
Now that I think about it.

1355
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,240
Remind me, Jeremy, when we're
done.

1356
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,800
We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll,
we'll talk about it.

1357
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:39,160
But he's a very good guy.
He's having a, he's having some,

1358
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:42,520
he has a yearly conference and I
think it's coming up in August.

1359
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:46,000
I think it's out in Utah, Perry
L Carter, and I can't remember

1360
01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:47,920
what's going on there.
That would be a fun one to go

1361
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:51,040
to, but that's a hell of a place
to start.

1362
01:32:51,040 --> 01:32:58,240
The Grand Canyon, You know,
we've got to get people to get

1363
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:02,200
going and to get on this trail.
There's plenty of room for all

1364
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,520
of us.
There's plenty of ways for all

1365
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:11,400
of us to share our research.
And you know that the native

1366
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:16,200
people are ready to have their
seats at the table, so to speak

1367
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:23,200
and visit on equal footing
because they believe we're in

1368
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:27,240
for some very precarious times.
And their prophecies talk about

1369
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:33,680
this stuff, right?
So it's, it's, it's time we

1370
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:37,680
start listening to them to pay
attention not only about the

1371
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:40,520
past, but we need to start
really focusing on the future

1372
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:47,760
because these stories all go
back to a time when there was a

1373
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:54,120
civil war on this continent.
And they talk about the eagle

1374
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:56,800
and the Condor.
Well, the eagle would be people

1375
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,800
of North America versus those
from Mesoamerica and South

1376
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:06,840
America.
And there was a, a truce called

1377
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:11,880
and we have a pretty damn good
idea of where this is in the

1378
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,840
United States where this took
place.

1379
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,480
You know, I'm not in any way,
shape or form any liberty to, to

1380
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:20,080
share that with the folks right
now.

1381
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:23,200
But hopefully we are, we will.
And we can work on getting that

1382
01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:26,720
information out to the public in
a big, big drop with all of

1383
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:30,480
these elders together and
through your guys's platform and

1384
01:34:30,480 --> 01:34:32,720
other platforms to share it all
at one time.

1385
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,800
OK.
But the reason I'm bringing that

1386
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:41,080
up is they said that if we are
to be all come back, to be in

1387
01:34:41,080 --> 01:34:45,360
the medicinal people that we all
were at one time, all races

1388
01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:50,160
with, with the native people
somehow leading us spiritually

1389
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,680
for all of us to be medicinal
people, for all of us to be

1390
01:34:55,680 --> 01:35:00,440
medicinal people again, There
has to be a reunification of the

1391
01:35:00,440 --> 01:35:03,560
eagle in the Condor.
And that can only take place

1392
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:09,200
when we as human beings get on
this path of enlightenment.

1393
01:35:09,640 --> 01:35:13,920
Now, whatever that path of
enlightenment is, I'm not sure.

1394
01:35:14,920 --> 01:35:18,120
But I can tell you to finish
this up that I would like to

1395
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:23,320
think that US 3 here are having
a conversation that shows that

1396
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,480
we're enlightened a little bit.
And I don't mean we're better

1397
01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:28,480
than anybody.
We're not smarter than anybody.

1398
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:31,200
But what I do mean is that we're
at least having these

1399
01:35:31,200 --> 01:35:35,600
conversation with no biases and
that we're all listening to each

1400
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,720
other with very open minds to
learn for our own journeys or to

1401
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,200
help other people on their
journey.

1402
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,160
And to me, that's an enlightened
human being, right?

1403
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:48,240
You're trying to help another
man or mankind or woman or or

1404
01:35:48,440 --> 01:35:53,360
youngster.
So yeah, I, I this is an

1405
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:55,240
enlightened moment in our lives
right here.

1406
01:35:56,320 --> 01:35:58,880
So why can't we carry that over
and just keep doing it?

1407
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:01,760
Why do we have to have a
government?

1408
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:07,480
And I love, I love the United
States of America, but why I

1409
01:36:07,480 --> 01:36:09,880
don't, I don't need them.
I don't need the church.

1410
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,840
I don't need anybody telling me
about where to go on my journey

1411
01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:16,720
or what to believe in.
Because I've been to places and

1412
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:25,520
I've seen things that are not
easily explained.

1413
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,920
And I'm just a simple novice on
there.

1414
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:30,160
You know what I mean?
I'm just a seeker and a

1415
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:34,480
searcher, so whatever else is
out there for the for people to

1416
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:38,520
learn and to grow from, it's out
there, but we have to go start

1417
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:43,600
finding it.
All right, well, I think that's

1418
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:49,480
a a good place to leave.
Off we went for about an hour

1419
01:36:49,480 --> 01:36:55,320
and 45 minutes tonight.
I just got off a 14 hour shift.

1420
01:36:56,080 --> 01:37:03,240
I'm deadbeat, but it looks like
our our buddy Jeff there is is

1421
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:09,760
the Viking dead?
But Lance, man, thank you once

1422
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:13,440
again.
That was a fantastic another

1423
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:17,560
back-to-back killer episode.
Man, that's.

1424
01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:22,840
For the kind words, but I don't
you know, I'm just telling you

1425
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:26,000
guys about the simple journey
that I went on and you know,

1426
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,360
this stuff is out there.
You, you guys I can't I'm, I

1427
01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:32,640
can't wait to hear back from you
on reading some of these books

1428
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:35,240
and digging in.
Jeff, thanks for bringing out

1429
01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:39,960
the, the, the Dogon people and
that maybe that was great.

1430
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:41,720
You jumped right to it and
that's what we got to do.

1431
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:46,520
And you know, listen, I'm going
to do my damnedest this summer

1432
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,520
to hook you guys up with this,
some good people that hopefully

1433
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,440
we can get on your show that can
visit and take this to a much

1434
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:54,880
different level than I can do
it.

1435
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,240
Because I'm just, I'm just an
emissary, man.

1436
01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:01,840
I'm just, I'm just trying to
help these these, these

1437
01:38:01,840 --> 01:38:05,760
histories get out so people will
get enlightened on their own.

1438
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:11,160
And don't, don't listen to me,
take your own journey.

1439
01:38:11,480 --> 01:38:14,000
Well, give yourself a little
more credit, Lance, because you

1440
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,360
know, like I said, I like to
think of myself as a pretty

1441
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,200
seasoned conspiracy theorist,
right?

1442
01:38:19,200 --> 01:38:24,000
And and and you've done a hell
of a job at like getting me

1443
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:27,840
super interested in like a whole
other path that I hadn't even

1444
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:29,920
been aware of, right?
So give yourself a little more

1445
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,760
credit.
But yeah, that definitely

1446
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,440
appreciate you coming back on
again, man.

1447
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,880
No, it's been, it's been fun.
I appreciate you guys letting me

1448
01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:42,120
go on and on and let's let's do
this, man.

1449
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,440
Let's get these people on to you
guys a show and let's let you

1450
01:38:44,440 --> 01:38:47,960
guys visit with them and get it
out there to the people and let

1451
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,280
everybody else make up their own
mind and have a journey too.

1452
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:51,640
Sound good?
Yeah, man.

1453
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:54,840
And you know, later, later on in
the year, we'll we'll touch base

1454
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:58,440
with you again, we'll have you
back on and we'll we'll just

1455
01:38:58,440 --> 01:39:01,040
continue the conversation.
You know I mean there there's

1456
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,680
plenty of stuff.
I got a whole post it note here

1457
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,480
worth of stuff that I didn't
even get to talk about yet.

1458
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:12,760
So it's, it's, it's been a great
journey, Lance, thank you so

1459
01:39:12,760 --> 01:39:15,040
much.
Really do appreciate it.

1460
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,640
You've been a phenomenal,
phenomenal guest.

1461
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:22,160
I can't wait to grab your book.
I'm looking forward to it.

1462
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:27,800
I I love reading.
It'll, it's, it's going to get

1463
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:30,360
added to the pile.
I might, I might go ahead and

1464
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:35,160
throw it up a few tears and and
move it up closer to the top

1465
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,760
there, just because, you know,
I'm so hot onto the topic right

1466
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,880
now and it's so fresh to my mind
that I just, you know, need to

1467
01:39:43,480 --> 01:39:46,280
need to indulge, need to
scratch.

1468
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,040
And itch everybody.
I need it.

1469
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,280
Yeah.
But before we go ahead and sign

1470
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:56,960
off, go ahead and let everybody
know one more time where they

1471
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:00,240
can find all your your content.
Where can they?

1472
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:02,600
Where can they see everything?
Lance.

1473
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,720
Sure.
Well, I have a website, but I

1474
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,800
don't I don't post a lot.
Just I'm too darn busy doing

1475
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:15,120
constant research.
And of course, I work full time

1476
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:21,080
and my wife and I, we, we try to
do our part and we've got a

1477
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:25,560
small animal shelter here and we
do our part to try to say, I

1478
01:40:25,560 --> 01:40:28,080
hate to say the word rescue
because these animals really

1479
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:34,920
make us better human beings.
So I'll just say that we try to

1480
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,760
give some, some, some, some
strays a fighting chance.

1481
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:43,240
But our book, Myself and Donovan
Taylor, is called The History

1482
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,760
They Tell.
It's available on Amazon for

1483
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:50,840
2499 under Lance J Doral.
It's 20 chapters.

1484
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:57,040
And this information has been
kept relatively quiet by the

1485
01:40:57,040 --> 01:40:59,520
tribes that talk about who was
really at the Little Bighorn.

1486
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:04,640
And I made it very simple for
readers who aren't into this

1487
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,920
subject to not only have, I
hope, have a very general idea

1488
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,280
of what happened there that day,
but I went a deep, deep dive

1489
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:15,160
into studying this since 1976 to
bring together all the

1490
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:20,840
information out in the written
record that talks about if it,

1491
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:25,200
what this current oral history
with that was shared to us, how

1492
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:28,840
it coincides.
And what we found was this

1493
01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:32,520
information.
It was said on several different

1494
01:41:32,520 --> 01:41:37,200
ways and levels, but historians,
ethnographers, people in the

1495
01:41:37,200 --> 01:41:38,880
movie industry, I can go on and
on.

1496
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,600
Historians have chosen to ignore
it.

1497
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:42,520
So we just try to put it
together.

1498
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:45,680
And then we did a historical
dive on the back to see how it

1499
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,400
compares so that that's out
there.

1500
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,120
And Donovan and I are still
always on the research trail.

1501
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,480
We're working on dealing,
working with a lot of Native

1502
01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:58,280
people right now.
We're very blessed for those

1503
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:02,440
folks to bring out some more
information about when all were

1504
01:42:02,440 --> 01:42:06,000
one at one time.
So that's that's really it for

1505
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:08,560
me what I do.
So thank you sounds.

1506
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:11,960
Good man.
All right, well, next week we do

1507
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:14,400
have a different guest on the
schedule.

1508
01:42:17,160 --> 01:42:23,560
I'm not going to go ahead and
put out her name as of yet, but

1509
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:28,440
if you have ever seen the show
Sons of Anarchy, you will know

1510
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:34,440
her.
But I guess you'll have to see

1511
01:42:34,440 --> 01:42:36,000
who the mystery guest is next
week.

1512
01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:39,120
Jeff, you got anything to put
out?

1513
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:40,360
Anything.
Shadow Band.

1514
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,480
Nope, sorry for all the shadow
band listeners.

1515
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,720
Creamer has been moving so we
took two weeks off.

1516
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:50,840
We should be back to it this
week.

1517
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:55,120
No promises, you know, and.
If you ever need a sit in host

1518
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,160
man just let me know.
No it's alright man with this

1519
01:42:57,160 --> 01:42:59,280
neck thing bro.
I've just been enjoying those

1520
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:01,600
extra nights of just chilling,
to be honest with you so.

1521
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,360
I see.
I get it.

1522
01:43:03,440 --> 01:43:04,680
This was fun.
Yeah, no.

1523
01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:06,680
It's just you.
Actually, I just didn't.

1524
01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:08,680
I just didn't want you.
I know.

1525
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:10,080
I know.
I get it.

1526
01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:12,160
Yeah.
All right.

1527
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:15,560
Well, Lance, once again, man,
thank you so much.

1528
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:20,840
Really do appreciate it.
And mind blowing, man,

1529
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:22,560
absolutely mind blowing.
I love it.

1530
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,960
I love it when a guest comes on
and just sends me down a rabbit

1531
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,200
hole that sends me down other
rabbit holes, which sends me

1532
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:33,880
down other rabbit holes, which
just takes a week of my life and

1533
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:37,800
just throws it into other rabbit
holes, which is what I've been

1534
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:38,800
doing all week so.
Thanks.

1535
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:42,400
You like holes?
I like rabbit holes, but it's

1536
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:47,000
fine.
Well, anyways, until next time,

1537
01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:53,440
travelers, we'll see you right
here in the next fork in the

1538
01:43:53,480 --> 01:43:54,880
bath of the incentive rabbit
hole.

1539
01:43:55,600 --> 01:43:57,240
Bye everybody.
Bye.

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Hey everybody, thanks for
checking out the Infinite Rabbit

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Hole podcast.
If you're looking for more of

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our stuff, head on over to
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can find links to all the
podcast players that we are

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available on and even our video
platforms such as TikTok and

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YouTube.
While you're there, make sure to

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check out all the links for our
socials and hit that follow so

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you know when all the new stuff
from our podcast comes out.

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And until next time, travelers,
we'll see you right here in the

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next fork in the path of the
Infinite Rabbit hole.

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Bye.