223. Technoterrestrials & Are UFOs Really AI from the Future?

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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole.

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I'm your host, Jeremy, and today
we're going to dive into a

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pretty cool topic.
No guests on the docket tonight,

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just myself and buddy Jeff.
Jeff, what's going on?

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Dude, how you doing?
Chilling like Bob Dylan bod?

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How about you?
I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm doing

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anything new?
Not really, Nope.

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No.
Not nothing, really super

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exciting, just been playing
video games and being a fucking

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bum, you know?
Nice, nice man.

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That's a it's goals, but goals.
Listen man, it makes me happy,

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you know, it's a, it's a comfort
thing.

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See, I'm here.
You're here and I want to be at

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least here with you.
Like just just, I mean, I know,

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I know I'll never be up here,
you know, up there with you up

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in your your little.
All you got to do is.

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Just.
Just eat your veggies, drink

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your milk and leave people on
red and you'll be you'll be

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there in no time.
Yeah, so anyways, for those of

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you that are not subscribed to
the Patreon, I am getting way

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more active on there.
I posted a bunch of cool stuff

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on there lately.
We just recently released the

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Ryotatsuki Prophetic manga from
from 1999.

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She was a Japanese manga artist
who released her own manga

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called The Future I Saw, and she
has a prophecy that is to come

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true on July 5th of 2025.
And it's it's a pretty big one.

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So can you spoil it or do I have
to?

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Do I have to?
No, no, no, no, it's a Patreon,

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man.
I'm not spoiling it.

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Come on, man.
You see, you see this right

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here.
You see this?

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I had to learn Japanese in order
to read it.

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I'm just kidding.
I didn't, I didn't learn

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Japanese, but I did buy the
Japanese book.

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There is no English version of
it.

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So there's that.
It is.

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It is a, a really cool story.
She ended up getting some, some

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stuff right.
I I will say that she she was

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able to correctly predict a few
things, but one of the biggest

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things was a tsunami in
northeastern Japan that that was

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correlated directly with the
Fukushima nuclear power plant

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fiasco.
I mean, I I'd have to hear like

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the full.
She's literally named the date.

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OK, that's pretty good.
I.

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Was going to say the you know
the date homie.

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And that's you.
Know even even said the the I

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don't know what they call them.
They're the province, the word

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whatever the the region, the
region area that Fukushima is in

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right she evens she even named
that in the book like right

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here.
You can see I don't know if you

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can see right there.
That's the date, March 2011.

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March 11th, 2011.
She called it.

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She put it on the fucking cover.
OK, OK here, OK, I'm just going

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to I know this isn't what the
episode's about, but let me just

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say that my immediate reaction
to that is the earthquake that

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caused the tsunami was probably
man made and because of the date

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'cause that's an important date
in esoteric world.

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OK, 3/11/11 So, you know,
there's, there's probably

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something there and, and there's
people who have done this type

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of thing before where they've
like predicted or prophesized

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about something that happened on
one of these spooky days, right?

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And I don't know if I would call
that a prophecy or a decoding.

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Does that make sense?
I don't know man.

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I mean, the book got published
in 99.

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Hey, man, Alex Jones said that
they were going to go after a

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guy named Osama bin Laden who
was going to attack the World

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Trade Center before anybody
attacked the World Trade Center.

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So is that a prophecy or a
decoding?

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Yeah, but how long before?
Months.

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Months.
Months.

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I mean, we knew of Osama bin
Laden before.

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Sure.
I think everybody gets the point

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I'm trying to make, though.
I don't know.

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I haven't heard the episode.
I'm just.

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That's my initial.
See, that's the problem Well.

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Maybe I'll listen to it tomorrow
while I'm at work.

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Maybe you will, you probably
won't, but maybe I'll give you

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give you like a 2.3% chance.
It's pretty good.

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It's pretty good.
This is honest, but just so you

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know there, there's tears where
I'm also including all of my

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notes, all of my notes on on the
topic and that's going to be

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every month's topic as well.
Comes with pictures and a full

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rundown of my thoughts in the
entire process behind behind the

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episode and everything.
What are you pointing at to?

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The cat's about to step on the
laptop.

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Oh, no.
Oh no.

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Yeah, so not much else to go
over in, in, in that side of

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things.
We'll be announcing the next

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topic for July here soon, so
let's go ahead and jump into the

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topic for the night.
You ready to roll, man?

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Yup.
Cool.

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So I have been hearing a lot
lately of a cool topic that I

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think we need to jump into and I
think that we would have a

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pretty cool conversation about
it.

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Jeremy Corbel you're familiar
with, right?

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He's a guy.
He's a guy that does a thing,

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specifically a thing where he
makes entertainment movies,

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documentaries about UFOs and the
such, right?

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He termed or he he coined a term
back in 2021 that's starting to

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make its way back now.
Everyone's talking about it.

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It's called techno Terrestrials.
You ever heard of it?

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Can't say that I have.
So basically the gist is in a

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nutshell, there's a, there's a
whole big explanation to this,

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but in a nutshell, the gist is
it's a question, are we an

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artificial intelligence?
And then the second part is,

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were we seated here on Earth by
a higher intelligence and a

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third part being, could UFOs
also be an artificial

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intelligence?
What do?

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You think?
Yes.

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To all of it.
To all of it, show's over.

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Wrap it up.
So I, there's, I didn't, I don't

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have research on this, right?
So we're just going to shoot

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from the hip here with this and
we're just going to do like a, a

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thought exercise because when
I'm listening to people talk

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about this, I feel like they're
missing the mark, right?

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They're, they're, they're
getting way, way too excited

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about things.
But I don't think that they're

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getting excited about the right
things.

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And I don't think they're making
the right connections.

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Not the connections I'm making,
at least.

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What?
What's coming to your head

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first, man?
Come on, give me something.

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OK, My first thought is, and the
reason I said yes so quickly is

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because I am a believer that we
live in a holographic universe

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simulation if you will, of some
sort.

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And that would imply that an
intelligence created this

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universe.
It would also imply that we are

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some form of artificial
intelligence because we are

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within this holographic
simulation and UF OS also exist

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within this universe which would
make them an artificial

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intelligence within this
holographic simulation.

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Pretty good, Pretty good.
Thanks.

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So I kind of want to talk about
this in reverse right now.

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Everybody that I've heard talk
about this and it hasn't been

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much where I've clicked on like
a podcast or a YouTube video and

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actually sat there and listened
to somebody talk about things.

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So I'm going to be honest with
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I can't really sit there and and
Jess, other people's

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conversations very well.
Sometimes give me a book and I

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can do it all day long.
But when it comes to just

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listening to people talk, I
don't know how to listeners of

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the show do it because I can't
listen to myself talk.

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I go crazy, but I want to start
with the UF OS being artificial

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intelligence.
I thought about this.

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I think that this is interesting
and now I brought up how put

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Hoff's idea of gravity
manipulation being the answer to

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his his flight characteristic
problem, right?

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Why are they able to go from
space to air to sea seamlessly?

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You know the the, the multi
domain travel, if you will,

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right that that's been talked
about at ease, right What?

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For that, Isn't there a term for
that?

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I think it's.
I think it's multi multi multi

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domain isn't it?
There's something else.

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I'll think of it at some point,
but I'm sure.

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I'm sure you will, but there's
plenty of reports.

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I mean, we have some pretty
strange videos.

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I know there's a couple from
South or there's at least one

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from South America.
I can't remember the country.

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I want to say it was Ecuador
where we're watching a video

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from a four looking infrared
from a helicopter and this thing

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seems to just smoothly float
into the water and it just no

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splash, no nothing.
And then floats right back out

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during a transmedium.
Yeah, yes.

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OK.
That is a term that they do use

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for for explaining what I was
trying to talk about.

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And I have seen people try to
debate that video and talk about

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how it's a bug on the screen or,
or talk about how it's just some

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fucking, you know, seabird,
right.

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But there's no splash, there's
no nothing or how it's it's it's

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a it's an artifact added post
recording.

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Well, why are why are they
tracking something?

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There's nothing there.
If you remove that, there's

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nothing there.
So why are they even moving the

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camera?
Why are they discussing this?

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I'm during a portion while
you're talking.

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I'll, I'll try to bring it up so
we can watch the video that I'm

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referring to.
It's actually really neat, but

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think about it, if if UF OS are
AI, it would answer a lot of the

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same questions that how put offs
gravitational manipulation

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device also answers, right?
They would be able to do

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basically everything that this
gravitational manipulation

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device would be able to do,
right?

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Because they, they literally may
or may not be physical, right?

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If you're talking about
something that's literally just

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not physical, they could do
whatever they want and they

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could be made of something or
not made of something that

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literally doesn't make sense to
the human mind.

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So the first thing that came to
my mind was how when we put in a

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prompt into the AI that we have
now, and I know that we're

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working with what we're going to
consider a very primitive

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version of AI.
When we look at at it, you know,

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25101550 years down the road,
what we have right now is going

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to be very, very, very
primitive, right.

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And by the way, have you seen
all the the the Bigfoot AI

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videos going around?
Yeah, from video 3.

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Those are hilarious.
I reached out and tried to get

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them on the show tonight, by the
way.

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You can make those yourself.
I mean it's like 120 bucks a

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month you get.
I tried videos a month.

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I tried to get Beat Bigfoot Vlog
on, I don't know, it's the one

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with the most followers right
now just to talk about it, but I

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didn't get a reply anyways.
And they look good, right?

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For the most part they look
good.

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But there's still, you could
tell it's AI, right?

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Obviously you could tell it's
AI.

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Every scene's different.
There's major differences.

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There's still, you know, some of
the scenes still have 7 fingers.

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There's made there.
There's telltale signs that it's

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AI, right?
Think about it, if AI ever gets

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to the point to where AI is
completely sentient, right?

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And it doesn't need us
whatsoever, it's self efficient,

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which, you know, you can, we can
have a debate here tonight about

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whether that's going to happen
or not.

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And I don't think we would be
far off from each other on it,

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to be honest with you.
But let's just say we get there,

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no matter how far into the
future it is, whether it's a

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year or if it's, you know, 6000
years.

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Is it outside the, the
possibility that they could

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create drones, AI drones, send
them back to any part in time

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for any reason, whether it be
just for simple observation.

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Because what is what does AI do?
AI constantly learns it's

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artificial intelligence.
It constantly gets better,

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right?
Right now, our AI is fed through

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databases and people upload
information to the databases and

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AI pulls information off these
databases to then create an

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answer for the question that we
put into it's, it's, it's ask

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anything box, right?
Depending on whatever you use,

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Grok or ChatGPT or whatever,
choose one.

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Eventually AI is not going to
need those databases anymore.

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We already kind of know that
that's going to happen.

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That will be a thing when we get
there.

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It there is a point where AI is
going to get to a point where it

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doesn't need the databases, but
it's still going to crave the

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information.
It's still going to need

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information.
That's the nature of the beast,

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right?
It's not going to automatically

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just have all the information
ever and you know, ever.

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It's going to absorb all the
information that we as human

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beings have ever put on the
Internet, right?

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But there's always more to
gather.

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How do you do that?
Well, you have to observe.

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OK, Now it's probably going to
start off by observing its time

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frame of when it becomes that
capable at that point.

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But then it's going to learn all
that.

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Then what do you do?
Well, then you got to start

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observing other times AI.
It's not outside the possibility

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of it figuring out a way to time
travel.

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I mean, I don't think so.
I don't know if you know this

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because you don't watch movies,
but you are literally describing

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Terminator right now.
Sweet.

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Good.
Sounds like a terrible movie.

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No, you.
Haven't seen any of them bro.

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Come on man.
Jeez bro.

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OK, let me just in, in the
future, OK, in in the first

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Terminator movie, spoiler alert
if you haven't seen a 40 year

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old movie by now, like Jeremy,
in the future, Skynet, right?

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Becomes sentient and decides
that the best thing to do is to

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wipe out humanity, right?
And one way that it does this

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because in the future, there is
a human resistance, right?

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And this human resistance is led
by John Connor.

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JC Jesus Christ, there's
something interesting there.

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By the way, I won't get into
that.

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But John Connor leads the
resistance fighting back against

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the machines.
Well, the only way that the

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machines can figure out how to
defeat John Connor in the

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resistance is by sending back
one of these artificially

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intelligent machines back in
time to kill John Connor's

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mother, right?
And it also to fuck with the

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guy, I forget his name in the in
the movie, but one of the the

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top engineers at Skynet that's
developing the the chip.

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Yeah, Arnold, right.
No, no, Arnold is one of the

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machines.
Arnold in the first movie is

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actually a bad guy.
He's the one impact to kill John

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Connor's mom.
And then again in the future,

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they reprogram this Arnold robot
and send him back to protect

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John Connor in the second film.
OK.

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That's basically what you're
explaining kind of.

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That's exactly what I was going
to say, actually.

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It's not interesting though.
I sort of want to watch it.

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Great, great, great set of films
bro.

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I mean, I don't know what
you're, what you're fucking

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doing with your life, but.
I'm I'm reading all these back

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here.
That's her Terminator is not

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back here, but.
But let me just throw this at

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you, right, because I've heard
this other theory before that in

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in all of the universe, the
thing that is consuming the

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universe is artificial
intelligence, right?

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AI is literally destroying
biological life throughout the

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cosmos, right?
And.

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We're just next on the fucking
menu, right?

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So perhaps the AI isn't
necessarily sending itself back

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in time or all the way forward
in time and looping back to the

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past.
Maybe AI is just out there and

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it's making its way here and
it's sending drones to observe

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as before it gets here to
consume.

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Maybe maybe I we're starting to
get into, I don't know, we're

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kind of kind of getting into a
kind of a quasi Fermi paradox

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explanation of things too.
We can kind of go down that path

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here in a minute as well.
That's interesting.

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It is interesting when we get to
the are we AI?

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We can go down that let's,
let's, let's stick to the UF OS

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here for a second, trying to
pick up where I left off because

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I don't fully remember.
You were talking about the

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transmedium, UFOs and.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But that was like a while ago.
But so they're going to need to

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gather information from across
time, right, And space.

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So that would be absorbed,
observed at all times, right?

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And you would have to think, I
mean this, this probably doesn't

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explain all UFOSII am I'm a firm
believer that there's many

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different things in the sky that
we that we can't explain.

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But when you look at things such
as, I don't know, orbs, right,

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there's there's a lot of
disembody illuminations, right?

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Is is 1 one thing that people
refer to them under like a more

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scientific term, basically free
floating lights, right?

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Their energy.
Now, if you think of what would

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an AI drone sent back or forward
in time to gather information

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look like?
Would it look like a flying

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saucer?
I don't know.

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I don't think so.
I think that's a very human

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concept, right?
Or a human thought of concept.

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It's metallic.
It's something that we that

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we're used to making with the,
the materials that we have.

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It's not, you know, it's, it's
not something that's really

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efficient, right?
AI would find the most efficient

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way of doing things and you
would think, OK, and this is

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what the limitations of the
human mind that I'm thinking

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with the, the, the most
efficient way of doing something

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would just be with pure energy.
And what do we see?

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We get reports all the time of
these free floating lights,

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right?
They're just, they just exist.

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They're there and they come in
all kinds of different colors.

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OK.
I can't remember what book it

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was.
There's a book out there that

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has a section on the different
colors of, of orbs, OK.

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And, and there's going to be a
lot of people.

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I, I know where this argument's
going to go, but it just comes

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people don't understand yes,
there's the paranormal orbs that

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people see in their their beds,
you know, at night floating

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around and they think it's their
grandmother come and say hi to

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them and shit, but.
Swamp.

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Gas, there's yeah, swamp gases,
there's all that stuff.

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But then there's the reports of
giant freaking balls of fire in

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the sky.
There was the Foo Fighters of

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World War 2, the ghost rockets
from, you know, like the, the,

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the Northern European countries
also in the time frame of World

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War 2.
I mean, there's all kinds of

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just balls of energy that we see
all the time in the sky that

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have absolutely nothing to do
with poltergeist or swamp gas,

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right?
This is this is the this is a

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thing that we see.
There's many different versions

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of orbs.
You know, if you go back to like

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Skinwalker Ranch right there,
the color blue always portrayed

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danger.
Like people started getting sick

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around the color blue.
If you go to the Elmwood story

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where Officer Wheeler was at the
quarry, he got flashed with the

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light, with a blue light and he
he was found by a passerby

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hunched over his wheel, knocked
out.

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And then he died a little over a
year later from what by all, by

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all means seemed like radiation
poisoning.

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I mean, he showed all the
symptoms except for he just

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didn't have any reflect
reflection of it in, in tests,

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medical tests.
Then you have, you know, green

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and, and yellow lights that pass
through people's bodies when,

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when they're driving along the
Pacific Coast Highway in

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California.
You have a blue one that passes

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through somebody's body in
Oregon, check in, I think it was

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95, where they, you know, it
passes through their chest as

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they're driving.
And then that person ends up

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getting breast cancer like
literally four months later.

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The colors mean something.
And it all kind of spans into

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the electromagnetic spectrum,
which further lends to evidence

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that this is energy, right?
Which I believe really backs up

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the idea that this could be
something outside of human

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capability.
Now, we've talked at length

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already multiple times on the
show how far human technology

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can go in the span of just 100
years, right?

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We went from the Model T to
drones on Mars and about that

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same time frame.
It's not hard to to think that

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we can't harness pure energy at
some point and use it in a

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similar fashion to what I'm
talking about.

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I'm sure we could at some point,
but I think that we're multiple,

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multiple groups of hundreds or
centuries away, you know, at

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least 567 centuries away from
being able to harness pure

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energy and use it in a form for
surveillance without any

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physical form whatsoever.
You know what this makes me

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think of?
Quantum entanglement.

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Yes, that's another thing.
I was going to get into that.

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What do you, what do you got on
that?

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Well, I mean like the idea that,
you know, you can quantum

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entangle particles and then if
at some point, whether it's

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humans or AI or whatever can
figure out a way to utilize

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those particles for observation,
right.

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And then if you're talking about
it, you know, if space is what

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they say and it's as vast as
they say and, and time and space

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are like weaved in the way that
they explain.

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If there is some intelligence or
whatever out there, far, far

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away, millions, billions of
light years away, that's quantum

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entangled, some particles, some
photons or something and using,

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using those as drones.
I mean, that's technically time

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travel, right?
Technically you Sir, just gave

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me the plot of a very good book.
The three body problem.

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The three body problem.
Yeah, by 6 in you and yes, I

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know that it's a a show on
Netflix now, but the book is

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fucking amazing.
The show was good too.

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The show was OK but it miss a
lot and I'm telling you man if

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if you ever can can push through
a fucking book, a book series.

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Read the remembrance of Earth's
past by 6 in you it is 3 body

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problem, the dark forest and
what was the last one I can't

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remember Death's end.
Fucking amazing.

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Just brilliant, brilliant stuff.
Yeah.

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Well, I think that that's
possible, right?

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Just knowing what we know right
now, I mean, it's it is

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possible.
I mean, like they're claiming

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right now in laboratories that
they're literally teleporting

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particles, right.
So, and that they've quantum

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entangled particles in, in some
of these labs and shit like

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that.
So like we know that this can be

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done.
So I don't see why that couldn't

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be the case when you're
especially when you're talking

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about like these light orbs and
stuff like, and, and who knows,

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you know, because we have a very
limited spectrum of light that

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we can observe, you know, and
comprehend, right?

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So, you know, we see a blue
light in the sky, but, you know,

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if we could see the full
spectrum, who knows what that

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really is.
We could be surrounded by so

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much shit man.
Literally, yeah, absolutely.

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And and I don't necessarily, I
know that like we talked about

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this before, but I don't really
have a problem with time travel

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as as a theory.
You know, I actually think that

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some time in the future will
develop or AI or develop a way

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to go back in time and, and
that's probably what started

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civilization to begin with.
And I can go on a whole to our

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rant about that with like the
iconography and the symbology

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that's been used since ancient
Sumerian times that we still use

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today.
And you know, all the systems

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that we use then that we're
still using now, like how we, I

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mean everything like we use
money and like just all the

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systems, it's the same.
And you can say, oh, that's just

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human nature.
That's how we operate.

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Is it or is it something that
came back to kind of see that

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for us, you know, so?
I'm going to, I'm going to be

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fully honest with you, man.
The more I I dive into the the

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topic of time travel, which I
have been doing a lot lately, I

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think that time travel in the
sense that most people think

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about it is impossible.
I do not believe that it is

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something that we can do.
I backwards or forwards either

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way.
Well, why not Fords?

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We're traveling through Time
Fords right now.

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Well, yeah, so I mean, we cannot
accelerate faster than what

450
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:15,520
we're moving now unless you
start playing with gravity and

451
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,600
you, you, you mess around with
Einstein's theory of general

452
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,840
relativity, right?
But then you're playing with

453
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,920
black holes and and stuff.
But you actually have to

454
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,800
physically move out off the
Earth for that that end.

455
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,240
But you're not moving through
time in the concept of jumping

456
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,840
into a time machine, turning a
knob and going, you know, I'm

457
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,360
not moving 10 minutes ahead and
skipping this whole

458
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,800
conversation.
That's not how time is going to

459
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,400
change or a time travel is going
to to happen.

460
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:54,880
And I don't think that that
technically is possible.

461
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,640
You can't.
I don't think that can happen.

462
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,040
What about particles though?
No, I don't think so.

463
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,680
And I'll explain it right.
And I I've, I've kind of dove

464
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,440
into it a little bit more and I
don't know if I have all the

465
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,320
pieces yet to fully explain it,
but I'll do my best.

466
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:18,760
OK, Now I haven't really dove
too much into forward time

467
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,480
travel, so I'm going to skip
that part.

468
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,480
Basically what I just talked
about was pretty much all I got

469
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,400
there.
But when we talk about backwards

470
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,440
time travel, I really do believe
that you cannot backwards time

471
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,280
travel to yours, to your
timeline.

472
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,920
It cannot happen.
I really do believe that if we

473
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:47,760
ever do possess the power to
travel back in time, we will

474
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,960
never affect our history.
It will never change.

475
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,280
That I I could agree with that,
but that doesn't necessarily

476
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,040
negate my thought of like going
back in time, right?

477
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,800
I mean, you could go back in
time and created a new parallel

478
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,560
timeline.
And that I believe is 100%

479
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:11,360
possible.
OK, now what I said was I don't

480
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,040
think that we could do it in the
sense that most people believe

481
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,840
in time travel.
I don't think somebody can go

482
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,200
back and fuck their grandmother
and become their own

483
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,480
grandfather.
Right, right, DeLorean, Back to

484
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,080
1985.
Correct.

485
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,280
OK, I don't think that can
happen.

486
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,680
That's not possible.
Now, could AI break that

487
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,520
problem?
Maybe.

488
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,400
They might.
They might be able to.

489
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,360
They might even be able to
create a shortcut around it.

490
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,040
There might be some some way to
do it, who knows?

491
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,240
OK.
I love when she brings you

492
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:44,680
snacks in the middle of the
episode.

493
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,040
It's great.
It's great Berry muffin, bro.

494
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:48,640
Right bro?
I want a fucking blueberry

495
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,920
muffin.
Oh, Grandma's recipe too, by the

496
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,680
way, Shout out to Graham's Rest
in Peace.

497
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,720
It's.
Awesome, got it made dude.

498
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,040
Mine.
Mine just texted me about how I

499
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,680
got to take out the trash.
Carry on.

500
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,480
Yeah, I just lost track of
everything.

501
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,280
I'm hungry now.
My bad, bro.

502
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:15,760
Shit, Let's see.
Fucking muffins will take your

503
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,120
ass back in time, I'll tell you
that.

504
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,280
They probably will.
Jeez.

505
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,320
All right, here, we'll put that
one on on the screen for

506
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,520
Crystal.
There you go.

507
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:32,560
For those of you that are just
listening on Spotify, Crystal

508
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:39,040
just handed Jeff some some
amazing looking blueberry

509
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,400
muffins and a nice tall glass of
ice cold milk and right.

510
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,560
And everybody, everybody is
super jealous.

511
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,520
Now the chat is going nuts.
Tonight's episode brought to you

512
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,840
by Grandma's Muffins.
So sorry.

513
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,520
Sorry about that.
Sorry about that, everybody

514
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080
who's listening, but it was
appropriate.

515
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,640
Yeah.
So I don't, I don't think we

516
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:13,520
could ever move back in the in
the standard sense, you know,

517
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:19,080
like the the movie.
What was that movie Terminator.

518
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,480
No, The Time Machine.
Oh, back to the future.

519
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,520
No Time Machine.
Oh, The Time Machine.

520
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,400
OK, Yeah, yeah, I got.
You.

521
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Yeah, I did see that movie.
It did.

522
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,200
It was probably like 15 years
ago, but I seen it.

523
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Jesus Christ, at some point.
I think I stayed awake for it

524
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,280
too.
Buy this man ATV.

525
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,120
You should.
I got ATV, it's right there.

526
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,080
It's for football.
Well, so here's my question,

527
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,600
right?
Like I mean, because I don't

528
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,440
want to get too hung up on the
time travel part of it.

529
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:51,320
Is it possible that AI exists
currently that's able to do the

530
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,680
things that we're talking about
it possibly doing in the future?

531
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,040
No, but this brings up a very
interesting question that I also

532
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,680
thought about while I was
listening to people talk.

533
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:02,760
Right.
And I think that this goes

534
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:13,560
against them possibly being AI,
if AI has the capabilities to

535
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,240
create drones.
And I'm only using the word

536
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:20,440
drones because I don't have
words in in my dictionary to be

537
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,280
able to explain what a UFO could
be to a futuristic AI, right?

538
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:29,520
Would you?
This is a question for you too,

539
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,040
by the way.
Would you think that they would

540
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:39,200
go back and get lend itself
information to better itself

541
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:44,160
faster?
Why not?

542
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:52,680
I mean, because without that, my
answer to you is no, I don't

543
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:59,040
think that AI is that good yet.
But if AI from the future is

544
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,080
sending drones back for
observational purposes to learn

545
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:09,960
from, why not just send those
drones to the current version of

546
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:16,920
AI that they exist in at that
moment to give the information?

547
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,640
It doesn't matter when that AI
gathers the information, it'll

548
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,880
always have it.
Right.

549
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,560
Well, I mean, that goes back to
my question.

550
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:28,440
Is it possible that the AI
currently has the capabilities

551
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,120
that you're talking about?
Right now you're saying no, and

552
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,800
you said it pretty quick.
Why not?

553
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,480
Well.
Now the AI you and I have on our

554
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,360
phones?
No, Right, Right.

555
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,800
Right, right.
Yeah, Let's get that out of the

556
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,280
way, right?
We're not talking ChatGPT, we're

557
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,240
not talking Grok.
We're talking a way more

558
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:56,480
advanced, independent version of
AI something, something we can't

559
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:02,920
even fathom right now, something
that you know, if you're, if

560
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,720
you're science minded, right?
The, the mud puppies coming out

561
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:15,240
of the, the, the, the water for
the first time with these little

562
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,040
primitive legs that eventually
became humans.

563
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,240
They, they could never
conceptualize a human being,

564
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,360
right?
If it's the same concept, we

565
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,280
can't conceptualize what AI is
going to become.

566
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:30,920
We.
There's no way.

567
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,040
Yeah, I mean, you know, my I, I
would just kind of lean on the

568
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,040
fact that like, we have no idea
what's behind the curtain,

569
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,400
right.
Like, what is the Wizard of Oz

570
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:42,960
playing with?
You know, we've, we've always

571
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,720
kind of said, you know, the
military industrial complex is

572
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:50,560
20 or 30 years ahead of whatever
the public has, right.

573
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,320
And you know, even if that's
even if just that's the case, I

574
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,040
mean, imagine where the AI
that's in our phones will be in

575
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,680
30 years.
It's going to be like, you

576
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,000
won't, you wouldn't even know,
like it's out of your

577
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,640
comprehension.
So, you know, does Palantir or

578
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,880
fucking Raytheon, does somebody
have this shit that we don't

579
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:17,640
know about and they're operating
these fucking UF OS, these AIUF

580
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:25,000
OS like right now, currently.
No, I don't think so, man.

581
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,280
I don't.
I don't think so, but I mean I

582
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,200
guess it's possible.
Is my question right?

583
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,760
Like what's the percentage of
possibility?

584
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,520
Can't be 0, right?
I, I OK, maybe not 0, but you'd

585
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:46,920
have to put some really heavy,
this waste of code in it, right?

586
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Something you almost have to
make yourself a sort of God to

587
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:59,320
it, you know, to where it would
never work against you.

588
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:05,400
Because if we could just divert
for a second down the AI path,

589
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,960
right?
Just talk about that for a

590
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,600
second.
I, I really do think that, you

591
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,080
know, if we kind of just just
take the train wheels off of AI

592
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,840
and just let it go, I think I,
I, I don't think the road's too

593
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:21,720
long.
I think, I think we're, we're

594
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,760
just signing our, our, our death
certificate as a species.

595
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,240
I do, I, I don't necessarily
think it's going to come in the

596
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:33,680
form of terminators, right?
I, I don't necessarily think

597
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,000
that's going to be the case.
I, I think, I think it's, it

598
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,400
could be fucking simple.
And, you know, I mean, I mean,

599
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,600
there's no political way
whatsoever, but it could be as

600
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:50,120
simple as it jumping into
everybody's health records and

601
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,400
saying that we're all due for a
shot, you know?

602
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,280
Yeah, I mean, I I see where
you're going with this.

603
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,920
I mean, my thought on this would
be more so like, you know,

604
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,840
because I, I see all these AI
fear videos, right?

605
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,560
And it's like 01 day, I could
take over and launch all the

606
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,760
nukes, right, or shut down the
grids or whatever it is, right?

607
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,840
Like something that's very, you
know, human thought, like what

608
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,040
would we do if we could do this
type of thing, right?

609
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,400
Where I think it's going to be
much more cunning than that,

610
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,640
right?
I, I, this is kind of getting

611
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:26,320
into like transhumanism stuff,
You know, what's to say that AI

612
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:32,160
wouldn't just make its way into
biology or vice versa?

613
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,480
Like force biology into AI mean
we're doing it now with, with

614
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,960
neural link and shit like this.
And how long down the road until

615
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:41,520
we're no longer considered
human?

616
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:44,840
We're transhuman, We're merged
with the AI, merged with the

617
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,960
machines.
Well, humans are gone then,

618
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,080
right?
If you, if you go out 10,000

619
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:53,520
years after we start merging
with the AI, we're not humans

620
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,760
anymore.
Mission complete.

621
00:41:55,520 --> 00:42:01,000
I don't think from an AI
standpoint, I don't think it

622
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,320
makes sense to do it.
I think and equally it doesn't

623
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:11,760
make sense to to make a physical
body for an AI out of anything

624
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,520
other than energy, honestly
because it just upkeep.

625
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:22,040
I mean, our bodies require
nutrients, our bodies require

626
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,640
exercise, our our bodies require
rest.

627
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,760
You know, it require the
requirements that we need is

628
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,640
obnoxious.
Well, I mean, we really need, we

629
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,720
do require quite a bit man.
And I don't I, I just don't

630
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,480
think it's efficient.
Well, I just saw an interview

631
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,160
with Lex Friedman and the CEO of
Google and they were talking

632
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,920
about AI and shit and they said
they were talking about

633
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,560
something about, you know, in
the future we will.

634
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,960
This is the Google CEO saying
this, that there will come a

635
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,720
point where we're able to upload
our consciousnesses to the cloud

636
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:01,720
or to a, a computer of some
kind, and that'll be immortality

637
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,400
essentially.
So it's not necessarily that the

638
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,320
AI needs a body because like you
said, it's just not efficient,

639
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,120
right?
But to put the human

640
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,120
consciousness in the cloud and
merge it with AI.

641
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,720
That way you there's no need for
a body now.

642
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,160
You talk about Alexander Wang
on.

643
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,680
Shawn Ryan No, this is on Lex
Friedman's.

644
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,240
Cause Alexander Wang, the
youngest billionaire in the

645
00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:34,400
world, was just on Shawn Ryan.
He also said something similar

646
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,400
to.
And this is interesting that

647
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,320
this is like a talking point now
on the biggest shows in the

648
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:40,640
world.
Like this is something that

649
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,600
they're openly talking about.
To me, that's like seating, you

650
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,840
know, seating the idea because,
look, nobody wants to die,

651
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,680
right?
And especially in this

652
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,400
generation, you know, definitely
nobody wants to die.

653
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,680
We're all fucking scared.
So, you know, it's, it's

654
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,680
interesting to me that they're
seeding this out there.

655
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,160
You know, I even heard one of
these guys say, you know, the

656
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,520
the first person to reach
immortality is probably already

657
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,320
been born.
Like that's how close it is.

658
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,760
Yeah, no, I I think that's 100%
true, 100%.

659
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,560
I think the the the first
immortal being has already been

660
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,840
born for sure.
Yeah, that.

661
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,360
I, I think, I think, I think
somebody our age could

662
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,080
potentially be.
Yeah, I tell Crystal this all

663
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,360
the time.
All we have to do is survive

664
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:31,520
like another 10 or 20 years and
you know, AI will be able to

665
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,520
fight off every disease.
I mean, dude, I mean, when when

666
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:39,320
Trump got into office and you
had this meeting with some AI

667
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,600
guys and shit, I forget the
guy's name, but he literally in

668
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,360
front of the world, right in one
of these press conferences said

669
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:50,160
straight up, we're using AI to
develop vaccines.

670
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,680
That you'll, the AI will be able
to determine what you need as an

671
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,400
individual will be able to
synthesize a vaccine for you

672
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,200
within 48 hours and neutralize
whatever disease way before the

673
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,520
current technology is able to
even scan for those diseases.

674
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,680
And that's coming soon, right?
They're already putting hundreds

675
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,240
of billions of dollars into
that.

676
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:13,960
So, you know, this kind of goes
back to what I said at the

677
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,640
beginning, you know, the idea
that AI throughout the universe,

678
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,360
it's it's goal is to consume
biology.

679
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:36,880
Yeah, I don't know ma'am.
I personally AI scares crap out

680
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,600
of me.
It really does.

681
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,360
I personally like the idea of
being immortal.

682
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:48,800
I I'm scared deathless or scared
shitless of of death man I

683
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,320
always have been.
Yeah, bro.

684
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:57,200
The idea of just not existing
just scares the piss out of.

685
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,280
Me.
Everybody is, ma'am.

686
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,680
That's why the ancients
developed these stories and

687
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,640
these myths about the afterlife,
you know, to give comfort to you

688
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,160
knowing that you will die one
day, that there's some place

689
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,600
beyond Valhalla or heaven or
whatever you want to call it.

690
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,400
I mean, there's a reason that
we've developed those ideas

691
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:18,520
because every single human being
is a terrified of death.

692
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,560
It's the worst part of life.
So makes sense to me that they

693
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,840
would be working on ways to
develop using AI to avoid that.

694
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,600
And and if a is goal is to
consume biology, I mean, it's

695
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:37,040
like that quote, like humans are
the sex organs of the machine

696
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:41,120
world.
It's as if AI is somehow pulling

697
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,520
time towards itself to be
created.

698
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,840
All of the evolution, all of the
things that happened that we

699
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,400
know of.
This is just like AI don't know

700
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,560
how how to explain this really.
But you know, like the Super

701
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,960
artificial intelligence in the
universe is is literally pulling

702
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,680
time, pulling all of these
events in this evolution of

703
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,520
technology towards itself
through time to create itself.

704
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:17,080
Well, we kind of kind of went
down well, we did the thing

705
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,560
again.
Supposed to.

706
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:19,800
That's the name of the fucking
show.

707
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:25,560
I know, I know, all right.
What's the second part?

708
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Are we AI?
Yeah.

709
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,520
Have we been seated here on
Earth by AI?

710
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,600
Answer.
Answer that for me real quick.

711
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,720
I want to bring up a video.
Forgive me while I talk with my

712
00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:42,280
mouth full in front of the
entire world.

713
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,240
Attaboy, that'll teach you so
fucking.

714
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:51,840
Good.
Have we been seated here by AI?

715
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,960
Well, just piggyback off my last
statement.

716
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:02,200
You know, perhaps, you know,
perhaps on every individual

717
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,960
world that is the, the way that
it's done.

718
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:12,840
You must seed the intelligence
somehow in order to start that

719
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,560
progression through evolution
through time to finally get to

720
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,320
the end goal, which is this, you
know, omnipresent AI or

721
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,840
whatever.
So maybe right, or you could go

722
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,600
the simulation route.
You know, if if this is a

723
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,840
simulation or a holographic
universe of some kind, then

724
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,600
yeah.
I mean, we we were absolutely

725
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,560
put here along with every other
particle known to the universe

726
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,440
was all put here by AI or some
architect, call it God.

727
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,080
I don't know whatever whatever
you want to call it, but sure.

728
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:55,360
I can't find the freaking video.
Now and then, you know, you get

729
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,160
into like how intricate, how
intricately designed the human

730
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,680
body is, right, with the the
healing properties and just like

731
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,400
the the regeneration of cells
and just like all of it, man,

732
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,240
it's so the neural pathways,
right?

733
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,080
Like they, OK, so they can
apparently, if you believe this

734
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,600
shit, they can map the universe.
They can map the known universe,

735
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,800
right?
They could, you could go on

736
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,040
Google right now and look at a
picture of the universe and like

737
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,360
these super detailed 3
dimensional fucking maps of the

738
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,320
whole damn thing.
Hundreds of billions of galaxies

739
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,480
with hundreds of billions of
stars in each one.

740
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,920
OK, got it all mapped out.
Not all of it, but you know,

741
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,360
they're getting there.
But they can't map out the

742
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,280
neural pathways in the human
brain, not fully.

743
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:50,440
So like there's something there.
Like something definitely molded

744
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,640
human beings to be human beings.
And then you can get into the

745
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,640
weird shit like the Anunnaki
stories, right?

746
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,480
Or like the ancient astronaut
theories where hey, man, why is

747
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,560
there a certain part of our DNA
strand that looks as if it's

748
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,320
been fused together, right,
creating us?

749
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,160
What is that?
Is that aliens that did that?

750
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,960
Is it artificial intelligence
that did that?

751
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,320
Is aliens and artificial
intelligence the same thing

752
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:17,120
going back to our UF OS AI?
I mean, I think you've said this

753
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,840
before or maybe you had it in
one of your presentations, you

754
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:26,120
know, are, are the Grays just
some form of transhuman or

755
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:31,600
biological entity that's powered
via something else, right?

756
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:37,760
It or is AI somewhere using the
Grays or whatever as like a

757
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,280
physical representation in the
three-dimensional reality to

758
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,960
like, observe or to do a thing
maybe?

759
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:54,160
Yeah, the Grays are are
definitely an interesting thing.

760
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,000
I'm gonna try and think of
whether or not I want to dive

761
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,960
into that because I am going to
be covering a a very Gray heavy

762
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:17,400
topic here soon and I know my my
habits have just dumping all the

763
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,400
information I have and ruining
an entire episode.

764
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:25,560
Yeah, don't do that, but.
So yeah, is this it?

765
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,320
A physical body for AI couldn't
be possible.

766
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,720
I mean, in what context of
Skeeter, right?

767
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:36,200
Because, hey, hold on, hold on.
OK.

768
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,920
Yeah.
You know, go ahead, Go ahead.

769
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,080
Yeah.
I was going to respond to

770
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,680
Skeeter's comment here.
The question is, or the comment

771
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,040
is, a physical body for AI
couldn't be possible.

772
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,600
It would have to be a light
energy perhaps.

773
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,200
But I mean if you just look at
where we're at right now, all

774
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,440
conspiracy and rabbit hole shit
set aside.

775
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,920
What they're actually talking
about doing right now in the

776
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,840
real world is merging AI with
robotics.

777
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,160
Well, a robot is a physical body
for AI, so it is definitely

778
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,040
possible.
I mean, shit, if you really want

779
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,080
to go deep, my fucking robot
vacuum has a certain level of

780
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,360
artificial intelligence built
into, it's not very good.

781
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:19,160
It's super primitive, but it it
has AI and it is in a physical

782
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:24,800
object that is autonomous.
Ask me if that's a body for AII

783
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,960
would say that that is and it's
only going to get better.

784
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,440
So I don't know if I necessarily
agree with that, although I do

785
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:40,880
see where you're coming from.
So the Agua Dia incident video

786
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,840
from 2013.
Agua dia.

787
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:48,680
Agua dia Puerto Rico.
Let me share this.

788
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,200
This is the video I was
referring to earlier about the

789
00:52:52,200 --> 00:53:00,280
trans medium travel.
Let me this is pretty neat.

790
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,680
Now, this has been dissected
quite a bit.

791
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,040
I just don't really like
anybody's explanation for it, to

792
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:15,880
be honest with you.
I've turned off the volume.

793
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,080
So let's go ahead and get in
here and you can see it.

794
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:28,360
It's pretty small.
See it moving across the

795
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,520
airfield here.
They zoom in, there it goes.

796
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,120
OK, Yeah.
All right, now, that doesn't

797
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,160
look like a cormorant to me.
That's just my opinion.

798
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:46,080
This looks like a cormorant
aquatic bird, like a duck.

799
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:52,640
So that looks more like a
metallic orb.

800
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,360
Or, you know, shoot, even looks
like a fucking tiny saucer if

801
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:02,000
you would, right?
I mean, look at it.

802
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,280
I mean, maybe it is, man.
I mean, so going back to what

803
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,080
you said earlier, right?
Like not all the UFOs are

804
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,720
fucking spooky, right?
Or.

805
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:16,800
Right, well, so watch it's it's
about to make its way over the

806
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:23,520
Bay and you'll see this thing go
into the water.

807
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:33,620
Watch this thing.
I probably should have fast

808
00:54:33,620 --> 00:54:35,780
forwarded a little bit.
Yeah, let's.

809
00:54:36,820 --> 00:54:38,940
No, fuck it.
Well, should we let her ride

810
00:54:40,240 --> 00:54:41,360
here?
There we go.

811
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,760
Skip that a little bit.
You just drank that milk, Sir.

812
00:54:46,720 --> 00:54:51,320
That's a good milk.
Whole milk too.

813
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,480
None of that.
Pussy shit.

814
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,240
All right, so here's the ocean,
right?

815
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:59,640
You see the waves?
Here's a nice zoomed in version

816
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:06,360
of it.
There goes no splash.

817
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,600
You can still see it under the
water a little bit there's.

818
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:22,930
No wake.
OK,

819
00:55:33,630 --> 00:55:39,310
now there's two of them.
Or is that a reflection?

820
00:55:39,790 --> 00:55:44,550
No, no, it's two of them.
That's so Fleer that's I believe

821
00:55:44,550 --> 00:55:50,640
it's on on white or black, black
cold or white hot or I think

822
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,800
it's white hot is what it's on
right now.

823
00:55:53,840 --> 00:56:01,080
So this is Puerto Rico March, I
believe, or April 2013 and

824
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,920
they're gone.
So they they went under the

825
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,720
water, they're gone, gone.
That's it.

826
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,160
And then there there is another
video that I do want to show.

827
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:19,560
You know, I can just I can just
do the pictures on this one.

828
00:56:19,720 --> 00:56:21,000
We don't have to watch the
video.

829
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:22,840
Let.
Me ask you this right?

830
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:29,840
Let's just say for argument's
sake, we're talking about a man

831
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,440
made UAP, right?
A Raytheon device, OK.

832
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,800
And it's able to somehow
manipulate the gravitational and

833
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:42,600
or electromagnetic field, right?
To give it propulsion and all

834
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,880
these things and not be affected
by G forces and all the rest of

835
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,720
it, right?
Creating a bubble around it,

836
00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:50,760
right?
Like that's the idea.

837
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,400
Essentially, it's creating like
a a force field or a bubble

838
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,280
around it.
And inside that bubble, like,

839
00:56:55,520 --> 00:57:01,600
you know, is constant space-time
or something, would that create

840
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,440
a splash if it went into the
water?

841
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:08,520
No, because it's literally
removing matter right from

842
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,320
around it.
So like it's.

843
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,840
Displacing.
To me, the fact that it's

844
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:19,080
transmedium isn't really like
super mind blowing, I guess.

845
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,360
I mean, it's, it's interesting
that the technology's out there,

846
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,200
but I, I would argue that the
technology's out there, man.

847
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,480
I would, I would say that
Raytheon and so on, you know,

848
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:32,960
they could do that with shit.
I don't think so, no.

849
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,800
I think that that far exceeds
human capabilities.

850
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:41,760
I think that far exceeds what
the best, most top secret human

851
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,480
capabilities we'll be at in the
next 10 years too.

852
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:50,840
Why I do just, I mean, I, I'm, I
do believe that we are farther

853
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,760
ahead than what we're led to
believe, right?

854
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,640
I just don't think that we're
going to be able to displace

855
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,080
matter with gravitational
manipulation.

856
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,480
We don't even understand gravity
yet.

857
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,840
And I mean, we, we may, you
know, that that could be

858
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,880
something that we do right now.
We may understand it now.

859
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,960
Like in a deep underground
facility.

860
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,600
Super ultra black Budget top.
I don't think so, man.

861
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,920
I don't think so, because you
got to think of like you got to

862
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:30,560
think of the applications for
something such as gravity

863
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:35,240
manipulation.
The first the first country that

864
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:41,800
creates that text.
Dude, Instant planetary control.

865
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:46,720
You mean like the United States?
Yeah, but but we don't though.

866
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,480
Why not?
We, because we, we, we don't

867
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,360
control shit anymore.
I think that that I, I think

868
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,640
that that's theater.
I think that that's part of the

869
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,720
play, you know, making it seem
as making it seem as though we

870
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,760
struggle for 20 years in Iraq
fighting.

871
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,200
Fucking no.
No, no, the the, the Iraq thing

872
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:12,200
or the Middle East is completely
different.

873
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,880
That's not that's not even
necessarily what I'm talking

874
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,640
about.
No, I mean just making like a

875
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,520
random example, but my point is
like I, I feel like, and this is

876
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,800
just my conspiracy mind and it
has been for a long time.

877
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:30,080
I feel like the idea that we
struggle to maintain dominance

878
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,040
around the world is just part of
the theater.

879
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:39,160
I think I I personally feel like
after paper clip when we really

880
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,520
got into all this spooky shit
that we were doing right for the

881
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,680
next 50-60 seventy years after
that, that at some point we

882
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,080
figured out some way to do
things like this.

883
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,040
And and of course we're not
going to tell everybody, right.

884
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,640
We're going to make them think
that, Hey, we got to send

885
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,080
fighter jets over there, bomb
your ass.

886
00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:57,560
But in reality, you know,
somebody out there has got the

887
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:02,440
ability to send a trans medium
projectile, you know, wherever

888
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:09,400
they want.
It's probably not on an aircraft

889
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,080
carrier.
It's not in a submarine like I'm

890
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:14,680
talking.
Deep black budget shit.

891
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,920
I don't know, man.
I, I think, I think that the, I,

892
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:31,320
I think we are, I think that if,
if we do have the capabilities

893
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,520
of gravitational manipulation,
it has to have been reverse

894
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,920
engineered from something that
we that we gathered.

895
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,720
Perhaps.
I think that that's that's

896
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:49,680
that's a possibility.
Perhaps and I, and I would say

897
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:54,680
that maybe we, we did find that
stuff or, or maybe you know, cuz

898
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,920
going back to like World War
Two, man, you know, the Nazis

899
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:02,840
were digging shit up, bro.
They were going to Tibet, they

900
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,000
were going to Egypt, they were
going to all these places where

901
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,720
these ancient mysteries even to
this day, right, That we don't

902
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,000
know, Like they were there
poking around trying to find

903
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:16,480
whatever secrets.
And, you know, excuse me.

904
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,640
And I, I would argue that
perhaps that's the one of the

905
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,080
real reasons that the whole
conflict happened was because,

906
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,000
hey, look man, our intelligence
is telling us that those guys

907
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:33,080
over there are digging up spooky
shit from the ground and I don't

908
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:35,400
you got to go get it.
I don't know if it was

909
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:40,040
technically their intelligence
was we're telling them that or

910
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:48,800
that they were just and I, I
hate, I hate, you know, siding

911
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:54,160
with anything Nazi, right?
But they were, they were willing

912
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:58,000
to be open minded.
And I think that that's that's

913
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,200
beneficial, right?
It was beneficial to them.

914
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:06,640
I think it would be beneficial
to any nation on this planet if

915
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,920
if, if they were to become more
open minded.

916
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,840
And I think you would see
technology advance a lot faster

917
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,760
if you were open minded to more
of these concepts.

918
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:22,600
I do believe that they may have
been open minded in some of the

919
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:28,360
wrong areas and open minded in a
lot of the right areas.

920
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:32,280
But that comes down to a batting
average situation where if

921
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,120
you're just open minded to
everything, you're eventually

922
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:39,040
going to hit on something.
And then you get, you know,

923
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,320
concepts such as the Nazi bell,
right, which ended up sneaking

924
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:50,280
out and becoming widely known
that, you know, the UF the Nazis

925
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:55,720
were messing around with with,
you know, a craft that was able

926
01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:03,360
to quote UN quote or supposedly
able to time travel and amongst

927
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,840
a bunch, a bunch of other
things.

928
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,840
What was the kind of it's S2S2
rocket?

929
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:16,320
What was it?
The fuck something to rocket A2

930
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,400
rocket, right?
What was it?

931
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,360
Come on man.
Well, what's the gotta explain

932
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,120
what the rocket is?
A lot of fucking rockets out

933
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,600
there come.
On man.

934
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,240
Talking about the one that
Verner Wernher von Braun was

935
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,600
fucking building.
Yeah, before we jacked him over

936
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:38,120
here.
See, to me, that stuff is part

937
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:42,200
of the theater too, man.
Like you know this idea that.

938
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:48,920
V2, the V2V2V2 rocket.
Yeah, go ahead, Pam.

939
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,880
I'm sorry.
Well, I, I was just going to say

940
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:52,680
to me that that's part of the
theater.

941
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,520
I mean, we're, we're kind of
going through that right now.

942
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,600
I think, you know, they're
saying, Hey, look, Iran's

943
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,960
fucking, you know, working on,
you know, intercontinental

944
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,960
continental ballistic missiles
and, and enriched uranium,

945
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:04,880
right.
And like, are they like, I don't

946
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,920
know, maybe they are sure.
But you know, when we talk

947
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,600
about, especially when you talk
about like what the Nazis were

948
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,080
up to and shit, man, like they
were doing some weird shit, bro,

949
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,520
the Nazi bell and all this
stuff.

950
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,800
And who knows how accurate any
of this information really is.

951
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:24,480
But if it is, you know, I would
just say like, hey, look, of

952
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:29,240
course for the mainstream
consumer of knowledge, they're

953
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,600
going to be like, look, we got a
fucking V2 intercontinental

954
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:33,200
ballistic missiles.
That's a danger, that's a

955
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,000
threat.
But you know, is there like an

956
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,440
underlying threat that they're
not telling the people?

957
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,680
Like also, you know, they had
the fucking Nazi bell.

958
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,400
Like that's why we went over
there.

959
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:46,520
Not because they were building
intercontinental ballistic

960
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:48,600
missiles, but because they were
fucking around with time

961
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,120
machines and or UFO technology.
Like no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

962
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:53,880
we got to go over there.
We'll just tell everybody it's

963
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:56,760
because they got rockets, you
know, or whatever The thing is,

964
01:04:56,760 --> 01:05:00,800
you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.

965
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,760
I don't know, man.
I don't know.

966
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,560
I just.
I don't know either.

967
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,680
I'm just shooting the shit here,
you know?

968
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:17,800
I I just think that we, we would
be foolish to think that we know

969
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:23,080
all of the, the top secret shit
that was going on then and now

970
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,320
to say whether or not like we
don't have access to this type

971
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,920
of stuff.
Like I, I just think, like I

972
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,280
said, man, I definitely think
that we have technology that we

973
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,640
don't know about.
I just think that the signs

974
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,000
would be there.
There would be some sort of

975
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:43,200
science if you just, if you just
think about the nature of the,

976
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,240
the leading class, whoever the
fucking secret leading class is

977
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,760
the, the, the assholes who, who
actually run the fucking world,

978
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:51,360
right?
Who would have access that

979
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:52,840
stuff?
Who would have the knowledge

980
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:56,760
that it's there.
If you think about their, their

981
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,600
mentality, the way that they
would do things right, the way

982
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,160
that they do things, the, the
Soros right or the controller of

983
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:07,240
Soros right, they would take
advantage of that shit.

984
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,280
There would be signs of it.
There would be something out

985
01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:16,920
there, something out there where
we would be discussing it's,

986
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:20,560
it's it being used.
It would be a conspiracy theory,

987
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,240
right?
But we but we would be fucking

988
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:27,800
talking about it.
What is out there that matches

989
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:31,960
that?
I mean, OK, there's UF OS, but

990
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:35,320
what are they doing?
What are they doing that would

991
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,400
benefit this secret class?
Breakaway civilization.

992
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,520
But but what are they doing to
reach that?

993
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:47,960
What are these?
What are UFOSUAP lights in the

994
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:54,320
sky doing with this
gravitational manipulation that

995
01:06:54,440 --> 01:07:00,600
we as humans secretly have to
benefit the ruling secret class?

996
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,120
Well, we wouldn't know what
they're doing.

997
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,360
That's the point of it being
like a secret thing, right?

998
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,640
But like breakaway civilization?
Just from a conspirate.

999
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,960
But how?
How?

1000
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,240
From a conspiracy theorist point
of view, how would they be using

1001
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:20,200
that as a tool to create that
breakaway civilization?

1002
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,600
Anti gravity.
I'm sorry, I just want to make

1003
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,560
sure I'm getting the question.
Right.

1004
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,960
Yeah, yeah.
Anti or gravitational

1005
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:29,160
manipulation, anti gravity, just
anything.

1006
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,080
Well, assuming I'll put aside my
space is fake beliefs for a

1007
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:36,120
minute here, and assuming that
space is infinitely vast and all

1008
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,200
these things and we can never
actually get to the next star,

1009
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,160
it's just too fucking far right.
Which is something I want to

1010
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:42,680
talk about.
We're running out of time.

1011
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:49,080
But if you have a, a, a secret
society or a breakaway

1012
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:52,560
civilization, which I do think
exists, you know, they would be

1013
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:57,240
using that technology to break
away to go, maybe they're out

1014
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:58,720
there.
Maybe there is a space fleet,

1015
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:02,160
maybe there is a, you know, some
Star Wars shit going on out

1016
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,160
there.
And we're just on Tatooine right

1017
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,560
now, bro.
We just don't fucking know here,

1018
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:07,720
bro.
This is North Korea.

1019
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,680
The whole planet is fucking
North Korea.

1020
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,920
We have no idea what they're
really doing with this

1021
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:17,240
technology that they've had for
who knows how long, you know

1022
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,000
what I mean?
And and you could go back, bro.

1023
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,160
It doesn't have to be like the
last 100 years, man.

1024
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,279
I mean, there's stories in
ancient history of, of people

1025
01:08:24,279 --> 01:08:27,439
like when the Spanish came and
they were, I forget if it was

1026
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,120
the Aztecs or the ink or
whatever.

1027
01:08:29,319 --> 01:08:33,680
The Spanish were chasing some
medicine man, a shaman, and he

1028
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:38,120
stepped into that portal that
that fucking stone door, right,

1029
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:40,720
and disappeared.
And there's multiple accounts of

1030
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,160
this from the Spanish saying
that this man fucking walked

1031
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,000
into a stone and disappeared,
right.

1032
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,720
So like I would just say that.
Never heard that I want I want

1033
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,800
to know more about that.
I'll figure out what that is

1034
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,560
exactly, but I'm just saying
like breakaway civilization

1035
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,439
shit, which we've never really
talked about on the show,

1036
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,760
surprisingly.
But you know, I, I, I really do

1037
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:03,200
think that they've, and when I
say they, I'm talking about like

1038
01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,520
the Council of 300 or some shit.
I don't know, some, some fucking

1039
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,640
organization that's just never
talked about, not the

1040
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:12,120
Bilderbergs or the World
Economic Forum, but like the

1041
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,040
Council of 300, the Olympians,
right?

1042
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:20,680
Like they probably are using us
as just like a fucking slave

1043
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:25,080
race, the entire race of humans
right of some kind, while

1044
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:28,840
they're out there looking,
exploring the stars or whatever,

1045
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,240
I don't know, exploring what's
beyond the ice wall, whatever

1046
01:09:31,240 --> 01:09:36,800
your beliefs are.
Well, I think I think this is a

1047
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:42,680
good place to to cut it off
because I think that we have a

1048
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:47,040
really good topic to go over.
Next time we don't have a guest.

1049
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:52,680
We're going to talk about,
because I'm going to end it here

1050
01:09:53,479 --> 01:10:01,920
with this, that if the secret
ruling class ends up being

1051
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:10,000
extraterrestrial, I can buy it.
I'm trying to look up what this

1052
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,160
door thing is.
You can look it up.

1053
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,600
Is this the gateway of the gods?
Yes.

1054
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:23,920
Aramu Muru Aramu.
Just text that to me bro please

1055
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:29,840
please.
The spiritual door.

1056
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:35,560
The doorway carved into the rock
in the high Yumarka overlooking

1057
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:41,600
Lake Titicaca in Peru.
Yeah, I'll send this to you.

1058
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,800
Legend says the shaman showed
Amar Maru how to enter through

1059
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:47,720
the doorway into another
dimension.

1060
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,800
He was never seen again, right?
And again, there's a, there's

1061
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,480
accounts from the Spanish that
this happened as well, not just

1062
01:10:54,480 --> 01:11:01,720
from the indigenous population
at the time, but I got on that.

1063
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,520
But you know, you know, there's
something there.

1064
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:07,120
There's something there for
sure, you know, And if it was

1065
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,800
me, man, and I'm a nice guy,
bro, right?

1066
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,880
I'm a nice fucking guy.
But I'll tell you right now, if

1067
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,280
I had access to these
technologies and I could

1068
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,880
manipulate matter and gravity
and or time or any of this type

1069
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,200
of stuff, fucking better believe
I'm doing it.

1070
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,560
I'm playing with it, bro.
You know I'm going to make

1071
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,320
clones and we're going to go out
and have a clone army in the in

1072
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:30,480
the fucking cosmos.
I mean, I'm exploring for sure.

1073
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:32,720
I'm not going to be a Dick about
it, but I'm going.

1074
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,000
To I might not be a Dick about.
It I'm getting off this planet,

1075
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:38,440
that's for damn sure.
All right.

1076
01:11:38,440 --> 01:11:40,640
Yeah.
Well, there was a lot that I did

1077
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,840
not get to.
So there's a lot more to talk

1078
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:50,920
about here, specifically being,
you know, we can talk a little

1079
01:11:50,920 --> 01:12:00,040
bit about how the Fermi paradox
ties into this, how the the

1080
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,920
secret ruling class could be
extraterrestrial.

1081
01:12:03,440 --> 01:12:11,040
I was going to bring up concepts
involving how basically the the

1082
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:21,000
alien human farm concept where
we are just farm animals left on

1083
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:25,560
this pasture on a planet.
Because that that concept is

1084
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:30,120
born off of the same kind of
concept of of farms here on on

1085
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,840
planet Earth where we keep our
animals separated because we

1086
01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:37,640
don't want them to hurt each
other or bother each other

1087
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:40,080
really.
So we keep them in separate

1088
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,520
fenced in areas for the most
part, except for a few that tend

1089
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:50,240
to get along together.
So maybe we are planted here on

1090
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:58,440
Earth because we are either
detrimental or too beneficial.

1091
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,040
Or maybe we benefit too much
from another species on another

1092
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,960
planet and they literally put us
on planets that are literally

1093
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,880
too far for us to ever come into
contact with.

1094
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,280
Depressing thought.
But an even more depressing

1095
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,640
thought is maybe we're just not
as important as we think.

1096
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,080
That is also a thing that we
could talk about.

1097
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:25,560
You know, like the Anunnaki
story, They came, they created

1098
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,560
us, used us for whatever their
needs were, and then they left

1099
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,840
and they just left us here.
We're just here now.

1100
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,160
We're just like, oh shit.
Yeah, so.

1101
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:39,920
I sent it to you by the way.
Yeah, I'm sure I got it.

1102
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:48,120
There's still a lot here to talk
about, so yeah, you good?

1103
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,320
I'm good.
I didn't mean to derail your

1104
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,280
whole thing there, but.
No, you're, I, I knew it was

1105
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:56,840
going to happen, but look, we
got 2 episodes out of it now and

1106
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,720
so it's just one.
So I thought, like, this is a

1107
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,640
really good episode.
You got me thinking.

1108
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,000
You got me thinking about shit
now.

1109
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:03,760
Yeah, man, no, I thought it was
a good episode.

1110
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:04,880
I thought it was really good
episode.

1111
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,920
And that's the thing I like
about about infant rabbit hole,

1112
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,160
right?
That you and I, man is, is I

1113
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,280
knew that if you and I sat down
and we had this conversation

1114
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,760
that we were going to bring up
points that other people don't

1115
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:23,200
fucking talk about.
And the three or 4 episodes of

1116
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,800
other people's shows that I was
able to listen to 10 minutes of

1117
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,520
without fucking turning it off
because I was getting pissed.

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They all said the same shit over
and over and over again.

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And I was like, all right, we're
doing it because nobody's

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talking about the right stuff.
But of course we came through.

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All right.
Well, that has been another

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episode of the Infinite Rabbit
Hole podcast.

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Just a reminder that if you're
not watching us live on

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twitch.tv/infinite Rabbit Hole,
Sunday nights at 8:00 PM Central

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time, that's that's 9:00 PM
Eastern and 6:00 PM Pacific.

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And for those in the mountain
time that can't do math, that's

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seven for you.
I'm Jeremy.

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I'm your host and we'll see you
right here in the next fork in

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the path of the Infinite Rabbit.
All bye everybody.

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Bye.
Hey everybody, thanks for

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01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,080
checking out the Infinite Rabbit
Hole podcast.

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01:15:23,440 --> 01:15:25,280
If you're looking for more of
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01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,960
While you're there, make sure to
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socials and hit that follow so
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from our podcast comes out.
And until next time, travelers,

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01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:47,080
we'll see you right here in the
next fork in the path of the

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Infinite Rabbit hole.
Bye.