237. The Eagle & The Serpent

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All
right, we are live on Twitch.

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Why don't we always have like
this weird shadow on my face on

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Twitch?
I need a light like right there.

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Maybe I can move one of those
over to Yonder.

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That's what they make ring
lights for.

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Is it?
Yes, Oh my God, this fucking

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guy.
Yeah, Hey man, directly.

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On your face.
What, you believe this guy?

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Honestly.
It's Jeremy.

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So yeah, you do believe it,
Yeah.

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It's, I mean, don't act
surprised.

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I mean, right, Come on.
Jeffrey Yeah, that's what ring

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lights are for, dude.
You put your camera in between

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or in the middle of the ring
light so you don't have any

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shadows.
Notice how there's no shadows on

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me?
Nope.

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No shadows on me because I have
a ring light.

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The light goes around the camera
so that all that was.

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Like I thought that was like for
teenage.

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Girls.
Well, that's why you look like

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shit on camera.
Your preconceived notions are

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holding you back, my friend.
I guess I'll get a ring light

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guess.
Hi everybody.

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Hi.
I said hi and.

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My thing disappeared.
I see it.

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It's there, it's waving, it's.
Not on.

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Twitch, I see it.
I see it on Twitch.

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It's waving right at me.
So did you tell him when you

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initially booked it that it was
central time?

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Yes, Sir.
Nobody goes off Central time

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bro.
Man.

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Except Central Time people.
Some boomer shit.

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I'm such a girl.
I'm such a boomer.

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Maybe he'll join, I don't know.
Maybe he will, maybe he will.

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We had a guest.
Now we don't have a guest.

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Now you're just going to listen
to us talk with my shadow face

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because I don't have a ring
light like a 12 year old girl.

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Apparently I need to get one. 12
year old girls should not have

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ring lights because they
shouldn't be presenting

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themselves on the Internet or on
camera to begin with.

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I agree, actually I'm going to
take a sip of Agua.

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As of right now, we don't have a
guest for next week, but we do

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have a guest for the following
two weeks.

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Those will be pretty cool.
I'll be your guest you.

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Want to be my guest tonight,
dude?

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No, not tonight.
My coil tastes burnt.

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I need to change my coil.
What does that even mean?

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Vape.
My vape coil.

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Vape.
Odin says he could be a guest

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Militarized computer networks.
Like right now.

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We're not smart enough for that
over.

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Here, No, no, no.
We're not.

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Jeremy just wants somebody to
come on and talk so he doesn't

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have.
I was hoping this dude was

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coming on tonight too, Man, I, I
did not like mentally prepare at

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all to, to, to do anything.
I was really excited to him for

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him to just show the
presentation and I was going to

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kick back.
I was actually going to, I was

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going to do this.
I was going to lean this thing

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back.
I was just going to pull the

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pillow up like this and I was
just going to enjoy the fucking

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ride.
I was looking forward to just

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like I was looking forward to
the presentation, man.

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I'll give you his presentation.
I'm the new no.

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Don't.
Don't do it.

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Just just.
The new guy?

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I'm Himothy.
Himothy.

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Huh.
Himothy, you say Himothy.

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Tazai, Himothy.
What are we going to talk about,

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man?
Let's talk about his

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presentation.
What?

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Oh yeah, Florida's banning the
Well, not banning, but they're

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phasing out the childhood
vaccine schedule.

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I heard that they're they're
making all vaccines non

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mandatory.
In Florida?

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In Florida?
Yep, greatest country in the

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world.
Greatest country in the world?

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Florida Guy, Jeff Object.
Once you get past the heat, it's

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not.
That.

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Bad, which sucks.
Yeah, but you know, but not year

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round.
It doesn't suck as bad as -0.

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No, I'd rather deal with that.
You know, no, fuck no, dude.

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Yes, yes, I like getting out of
the shower and feeling like I

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just took a shower, like I'm all
clean.

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I don't like getting out of the
shower and feeling like I need

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another shower.
That sucks.

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Well, that doesn't happen when
you when you live here, you

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know, like you're used to it.
Your body acclimates itself.

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Like I could go outside.
I spent.

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Ten years in Florida.
As long as I'm not like exerting

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myself or like standing under
the laser beam, then as.

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Long as I'm not breathing, I'm
fine.

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Then it's fine, but like you
know if you're super duper hot,

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all you got to do is get in the
air conditioning and within like

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5 minutes you're cold right?
Whereas if you're freezing your

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ass off good luck bro.
It's going to take you like 30

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minutes to warm up.
I'm.

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Safe to.
Just pour cold water on.

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Yourself in Florida and pull you
down, yeah, no.

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Also, when you're freezing your
balls off, it's like a nice 55°

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here, yeah.
Yeah, no, I'd rather just not,

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you know, we don't.
And it it's only pleasant there

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for like a total of three weeks.
For those who died, says I hate

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Florida but he's lived here his
whole life and refuses to

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fucking move so.
Hey, at least he understands.

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Everybody who lives in Florida
says they hate Florida and none

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of them leave.
I did.

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Except you I did in.
Fact, more people come here

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than.
Should more people move here

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than leave here?
Because there's like this, this

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thing, like I remember growing
up, I grew up in Connecticut,

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right?
I was born in Connecticut.

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And I remember this thing where
it's like, man, Florida is this

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cool place where it's got
beaches and babes and you know,

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all this stuff.
And then I went there and like

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there, there were beaches,
right?

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And there were babes and it was
all the stuff.

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But then you realize it was
like, man, is it worth it?

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And you're like, Nah, that
Florida, that Florida guy stuff,

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that's real.
That's real thing.

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Depends on where you're at.
No, it depends on where you're

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at.
I mean, it's in a lot of places.

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It depends on where you're at.
There's a lot of places in

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Florida that are like super
nice.

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There's a lot of places I
remember when I was down there

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and bath salts were really
taking off and that guy and

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there were those there was that
that wave was John Keel had that

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that term flap for UFOs, right?
There's a flap of of bath salt

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accounts coming.
Out three guys who ate

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somebody's face.
It's not that serious.

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Dude, that guy ripped off his
testicles and threw it at a cop

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OK?
It's his testicles bro, his

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body.
Huge choice man.

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You know, I mean, I guess he
didn't RIP off somebody else's

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testicles.
He no, he just ate the other

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guy's face and then ripped off
his own testicles and threw it

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at the cap.
I love Florida, bro.

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I don't know.
I've been, I've been all over

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this whole country, dude.
And like, there's some, there's

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some places that I would move to
except like, I would move to

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some of these places because
they're beautiful.

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But then you look at the
politics or like the laws and

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the regulations in some of these
places and it's like, yeah, fuck

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no, dude.
Well, yeah, aside from the fact

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that everybody I know is in
Florida, but.

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Man, that's that's the case
everywhere.

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There's stupid people no matter
where you go.

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Yeah, 100%.
Same with Florida Man.

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Yeah.
There's Florida Man in every

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state.
There there are, but per capita

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right per square mile?
Florida.

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Floridas.
Are more prominent is because we

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have Freedom of Information here
and you're allowed to know

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everything that happens and most
other states do not allow for

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that.
See.

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And that's a good thing.
No, it's because you have bath

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salts and alligators.
Everywhere has bath salts.

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Everywhere has bath salts and
most places have alligators.

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Not that serious.
But the amount of bath salts and

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alligators per capita?
Gators are cool though.

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It's like a dinosaur.
Yes, but when bother.

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You.
But when they mix it, it doesn't

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make for a fun time.
And, well, it does if you're

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watching it, not if you're a
part of it.

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Well, just don't do bath salts
and play with alligators and

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you're going to be fine.
Well, listen, all I know is

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that, and like I was talking
about this with Creamer the

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other day, you know, once they
phase out the childhood vaccine

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schedule in Florida, right,
you're going to see a whole

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different Florida.
Give it like 10-15 years.

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And this place is going to be
totally different because

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there's not going to be 72
mandatory vaccines for kids

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under the age of 6.
It will be interesting.

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The tism count will be lower.
Could you imagine?

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Could you imagine the the the
debates?

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On what?
Just on vaccines, on vaccines

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and autism and stuff.
Oh, like if the numbers, if the

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numbers like really tanked, Oh
yeah, they have like some solid

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like data to like use.
Oh yeah, 100 percent, 100%

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they'll.
Do tests I there will be people

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freaking the fuck out.
The floodgates are going to

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open, brother.
I I personally believe that

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that's the case, that there is a
significant correlation between

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the two and there will.
Still be people convinced and

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trying to convince you that you
should be listening to Bill

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Gates.
Dude, there's still people

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walking around with masks on?
That's hilarious.

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That's hilarious.
There's still people in their

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cars.
In their cars, by themselves,

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outside, in the fresh air.
Yeah, yeah, those people still

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exist.
I feel bad for those people.

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I used to.
I used to really like shit on

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those people like during the
thing but now, now I just feel

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bad for them.
It's like bro, you got sucked

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into the mind control and you
never left dude.

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It's like, man, you're a, you
know, you're, you're, you're

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walking all by yourself in a
National Park.

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It's depressing bro I seen a a
sign the other day in a

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customer's house.
Like out front we've all seen

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the sign.
It's like I believe in science.

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I believe in you know, or no,
what is what is like science is

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real.
Climate change is real, vaccines

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are real.
Like it's just and it's all in

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like a rainbow colors.
I'm like, bro, you are.

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You fell for it.
You fell for it all.

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I got into a conversation the
other day with somebody at work.

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Somebody, somebody got wind that
I was a podcast host.

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I don't talk too much about it.
And they're like, hey, So what

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kind of show do you do?
So I was explaining it and the,

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the conspiracy aspect really
stuck out.

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Not the, not the cryptids, not,
not the UFOs, not nothing.

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It was the conspiracy aspect
that really stuck out.

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So they really grasped onto that
and they started talking about

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all kinds of stuff about how the
government isn't trustworthy

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and, and stuff.
And you know, they, they wanted

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my opinion.
And I'm like, man, you know, I'm

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going to be honest with you.
I don't, I don't really want to

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give you my opinion because
I've, I've fallen for this

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before.
I have this nasty track record

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of people asking for my opinion
in public and then I'll go to

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start saying it and either I'll
say something that they don't

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agree with and they'll
immediately try to speak over me

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to give me their opinion and
just feels like they're they're

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asking me for my opinion just to
hear their own opinion.

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Or they, they'll listen to my
opinion, they'll just say, Nah,

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you're crazy.
So I, I just, I've, I've been

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kind of reserved to just not
giving out my opinion on a lot

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of this stuff.
But since we don't have a guest

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tonight, I figured why don't we
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I think it would be, I don't
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started going down that path.
Started to get into a debate

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with him.
He was totally convinced that it

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was the military, of the
government.

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Everything that is what you need
to fear.

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They're the ones that control
everything.

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And I was trying to explain to
him that if you're thinking that

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the military in the US
government is what you really

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need to fear, that they're the
ones that are pulling the

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strings to everything, that
you're thinking too small of a

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scale.
You're not seeing behind that.

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There's something behind that.
And I don't know how far you

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want to get into this, but then,
you know, I brought up Israel

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and I don't know if we can talk
about this on Twitch.

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I don't know if this is a Twitch
friendly topic or.

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Not sure you can dude, just
people who debate Israel and

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Palestine on twitch all the
time.

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Well, there's A and this is
probably going to be one of the

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first times I ever really get
into like a political topic,

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right?
But this is this is heavily

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conspiratorial, right?
You know, I was trying to

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explain to him like, hey, man,
why do you think we're so

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defensive over Israel?
He's like, well, you know, we're

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we're based off of Christian
principles and blah, blah, blah,

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blah.
And I was like, do you really

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think that's what it is?
And he's like, yeah, of course.

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And I was like, you don't think
there's anything else there?

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Nothing else, Just this island
in the middle of the Middle

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East.
But yet we'll defend it

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completely.
The president of the United

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States will drop everything he's
doing just to defend Israel.

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You got any input on that?
Yeah, I mean, personally I think

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that it's AI mean this, this
will, people are going to shit

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on me for this honestly.
But there's, in my opinion,

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there is a strong connection to
the people, not the Israeli

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people.
This is where people get tripped

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up, right?
And not even necessarily the

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Israeli government, but there's
like a deep multi thousand year

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situation that's going on where
you have, you know, whether you

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want to call it the deep state
or whatever you want to call it,

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there's connections behind the
scenes.

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A lot of these people are
captured, right?

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When you, when you start to
realize that people like Jeffrey

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Epstein were connected to
Mossad, and then you realize

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that Jeffrey Epstein had a lot
of the most powerful people in

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the world, right, captured in
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And then you realize Jeffrey
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many Jeffrey Epstein's out there
and how deep these intelligence

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agencies are like intertwined in
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So then when you ask yourself
like, why would somebody like

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Trump or any president drop
everything and, and help Israel,

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it makes me wonder like, well,
maybe they're captured too right

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now.
I could go on like a long rant

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about what I think about like
the esoteric nature of this as

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well, right?
You know, I don't know if I've

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talked about it on this show too
much, but, you know, there's the

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whole eagle versus serpent
situation.

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And in a lot of like religious
texts and mythologies, you have

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the serpent being that is
labeled as like bad, right?

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Yeah.
And I think that that's a psyop

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that's a few 1000 years old.
And you have this other side of

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it where the eagle symbologies
is always good, right?

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Like, you know, we use the eagle
and all and all of our shit,

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right?
Like the Romans used it, you

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know, the Egyptians used it.
It was like this cultural icon

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of the eagle.
And I think that entities or

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people or whatever they were.
A couple thousand years ago that

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ran this world, right?
And when they ran it

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holistically, OK, before the
rise of like empires and

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conquering States and these
types of things, I think that

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the our ancestors who ran the
world holistically used serpent

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iconography to represent
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And I think at some point in
history, other factions of

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beings came and started to
manipulate the money, the

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politics, and all the control
and intelligence and all that

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type of shit.
And they use eagle iconography.

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So you have this eagle versus
serpent.

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And I think that this new world
order that we've been living in

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under this eagle faction has
done everything it can to wipe

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out the holistic nature of
things, AKA the serpent, right?

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So, and I think Israel is just
another part of that.

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You know, so like I understand
like on base reality level, when

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people are like, hey man, you
know, Hamas is a terrorist

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organization.
And they, you know, they went in

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and they and they fucking did
all this terrible shit to the

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Israelis on October 7th or
whatever fucking day it was.

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I get it, right?
But at the same time, there's

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like a line there where it's
like, yeah, but you guys are,

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you're bombing shit.
You're, you're literally just

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laying waste to an entire area,
right.

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Oh, well, the terrorists are
hiding behind civilians.

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What else were you supposed to
do?

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I get it, you know?
But like, they have created this

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situation to a point to where
like, there's no, there's no

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good way to win this.
There's no right answer, you

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know, because it's, it kind of
goes back to like, I always

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think of the movie The Patriot
with Mel Gibson, right?

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You had the British coming in
and and this this wasn't just a

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movie.
This actually happened in

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history, right?
But like the British came and it

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became this thing where you had
these calling rebels, if you

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will, right, that were fighting
back against the Empire, right.

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And you know, we look at that in
America as like they were

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heroes, right?
Like they were the ones who like

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pushed for and, and made the
United States of America happen,

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right?
If it wasn't for those 3

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percenters back in the
Revolutionary War and those

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militias, we wouldn't have a
country that we have today.

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Great, right?
But when you look at it from

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another perspective, you know,
there's a lot of propaganda and

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shit in there, right?
And I, I, I can see how the

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people in Gaza feel the way that
our ancestors must have felt

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during the, the Revolutionary
War period, right?

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You have an occupying force.
Some people argue that it's not

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an occupying force because
Palestine didn't exist.

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It was never a state back in the
in the days, right?

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So like, I understand those
religious battles and the

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timelines are all fucky and
shit, but if you just look at it

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from today, you got people
occupying your zone, you're

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going to have radicals that are
going to push back and fight

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against that.
And like, some people call them

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freedom fighters, other people
call them terrorists.

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It just depends on which side of
the propaganda you're on, you

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know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I haven't heard much about

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that serpent eagle thing.
Actually, I haven't heard

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nothing about it, to be honest
with you.

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That's a completely new concept
to me.

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Well, it makes sense when you
really start to think about it,

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right?
Like, yeah, I, I can pull up

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some stuff if you want to chat.
No, I mean, it'd be absolutely,

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go ahead it it does make sense.
There's a lot of concepts

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throughout history, a lot of
cultures that reference serpents

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and eagles.
And usually, well, at least what

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we're taught is that the eagles,
usually the good side and the

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serpents are usually the bad.
I, I don't know.

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It's I think that just as as a
nation, right, I think that,

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that we're in trouble.
I think it's, it's so bad and

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it, it really sticks out when,
when, when people try to talk to

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me about this stuff and it, it
really stuck out with this guy.

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What you got?
Check this out.

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So I know this is going to be a
little hard to see because I

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can't open each one and I have
to like stop sharing and share

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again.
But here we go.

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Here's like the seal of the
United States down here on the

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on the right.
You see this here's Egypt.

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It's like the same symbolism,
OK, Even it holding the things

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in its hands.
Will it show if I open this to

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no, I'm going to have to fucking
double share.

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Hold on.
Sorry, Riverside, you.

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You can open it up in a new tab
and then when you click on the

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new tab, there's there's a
little tab above the screen that

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says share this screen instead.
You could do it that way.

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Wait, really?
Hold on, let's try this.

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So if I if I open this up in a
new tab.

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Yeah, and then you click that
new tab.

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Share this tab instead.
Oh, that's pretty cool.

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OK, there you go.
But is it sharing?

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Yeah.
Oh, sick.

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So I just want you to take a
look at this for a second.

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Notice it's holding, you know,
these different symbols and it's

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in its hands and its talons,
right?

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If I go back and I go to like
the seal of the United States,

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open image in new tab, share
this tab instead, same thing,

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right?
You even have this this, I don't

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know what they call it the.
Sun thing, right?

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Right.
You know, and that that carries

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over in different symbology as
well.

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There's a lot of that that
happens like here you go.

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Here's an example.
Open image a new tab.

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Share this tab instead, right?
Yeah.

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And then if I go to something
like Mexico's, where's Mexico's?

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I saw it here a second ago.
Where did it go?

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Here we go, Coat of arms of
Mexico.

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Open image A new tab.
Share this tab instead.

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Notice what's in the eagle's
mouth.

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That's the coat of arms of
Mexico.

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Yep.
Is it really right?

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It's eating the serpent.
OK, there's a lot of this stuff.

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Here's another one from Egypt.
Now, I don't understand fully

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like how this, I don't know how
to articulate this to be honest

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with you.
But like there is definitely

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something here where you have
this faction of beings that

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chose to use the eagle as a
representation of themselves.

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And it's usually represents,
it's usually showing the

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destruction of the serpent,
right?

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And you know, it's just, it's
just odd to me that that

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happens.
And then, you know, when you get

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into like some of this, you
know, ancient stuff, right?

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You start to wonder, like, hey,
man, what happened there?

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Like what is this?
What was this snake culture?

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But then you look into like
Central America, right?

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Like the Mayans and, and all
these different cultures, you

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know, they revered serpents,
right?

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Like they were like Quetzalcoatl
is like this serpent figure,

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right?
It's like the God of creation,

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right?
A lot of these.

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So like when you look at some of
the older, older, older stuff,

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they are looking at serpent as
like the creator gods.

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You see what I mean?
And then the eagle swoops in and

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destroys it, right?
Here's an Aztec one.

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Check this out.
This one's cool.

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It's similar to the Kota arms in
Mexico.

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That's almost the exact same
thing.

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Right.
So I I went to grok and I just

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simply asked it what is the
relation between the eagle and

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the serpent in ancient history?
You want to hear what it said?

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Yeah, tell me.
So it lists 6 cultural

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references, mythologies,
traditions, whatnot, and then

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the summary at the end.
In summary, the eagle and the

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serpent in ancient history often
embody A dynamic relationship

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representing opposing yet
complementary forces, sky and

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earth, divine and mortal, order
and chaos.

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Their interactions and myths
highlight cultural values like

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balance, struggle, or divine
intervention, with specific

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meanings varying by region and
tradition for deeper insights

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into blah blah blah.
Right, so I guess I should the

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very first paragraph.
The relationship between the

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eagle and the serpent in ancient
history is rich with symbolic

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and mythological significance
across various cultures, often

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representing dualities such as
sky versus earth, spirit versus

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matter, or good versus evil.
Here's a concise overview based

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on their roles in ancient
traditions.

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And then it goes into
Mesopotamian mythology, ancient

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Egypt, Mesoamerican, Greek and
Roman, indigenous North American

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00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:21,240
and symbolism across other
cultures and just gives off

455
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,680
examples.
And I'm not, I'm not going to

456
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,240
read them all, just it would
take too long.

457
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:32,600
But it is interesting.
I wonder if, I wonder if there's

458
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,760
some, there's got to be somebody
that's already done this

459
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,400
homework.
So the eagle and serpent have

460
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,400
been enduring symbols in human
history, often representing A

461
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,840
cosmic or moral opposition
across ancient cultures from

462
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,040
Mesopotamia to Egypt to Greece,
Rome, Mesoamerica.

463
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,880
The eagle typically embodies the
sky, the sun, divine power,

464
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:59,400
freedom, and higher authority.
It is so it is associated with

465
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,360
conquest vision and the
masculine or solar principle.

466
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,320
This is important, the solar
principle, right?

467
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,960
The sun.
That's that's important here

468
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,200
because you know, I've talked
about this on the show before,

469
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:18,760
where the people who in like the
Saturn death cults, right, the

470
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Saturn alien cultists, right?
They worship the, the old sun,

471
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,280
the original sun, which is not
soul our sun.

472
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,160
It's Saturn.
It's a different Sun, right?

473
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,640
And in their belief, and again,
these are the people who run the

474
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,760
world, by the way, these are
like the top of the top of the

475
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,040
top.
You know, they, they are in the

476
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:44,000
Saturn Saturnalia cult.
They believe and they worship

477
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,160
and they are trying to bring
back the golden age.

478
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,680
And that golden age was the time
before with the original Sun,

479
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,160
right?
So this was kind of what I was

480
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,680
saying a minute ago, where like
if you went way back, and I'm

481
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:00,520
not talking about, you know,
'cause in, in mainstream, you

482
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,160
know, accepted archaeological
timelines, you know,

483
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:09,680
civilization didn't start until,
you know, a few thousand years

484
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,080
ago, right, 7000 years ago or
something like this.

485
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,240
OK.
And that's what archaeologists

486
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,920
will say.
They'll say, hey, look man, like

487
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,720
human beings didn't start
building cities and watching the

488
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,800
stars and coming up with math
and language and all these

489
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,840
things that we use every day
right now until 567000 years

490
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,640
ago, right?
That's that's generally the

491
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,040
accepted timeline.
I think and believe that we were

492
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,320
doing things and building
civilizations way, way before

493
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:44,200
that, like before the last Ice
Age, like 100,000 years ago, we

494
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,280
were doing crazy stuff.
OK.

495
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,480
And then when whatever the event
was, that happened at the end of

496
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,480
the last Ice Age, 12,000 years
ago, that younger driest period,

497
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,480
which I've talked about, right?
Whether it was a comet slamming

498
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,120
into the ice sheets and causing
massive floods or maybe it was

499
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,920
volcanoes erupting.
Whatever the case is, I don't

500
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,679
know what happened, but I know
that there was mass catastrophes

501
00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,719
that wiped out most of of
humanity at the end of the last

502
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,600
Ice Age.
And from the ashes of that

503
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:21,480
right, the, the people who
survived, they brought in in

504
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,159
perpetuated new systems in
civilization, right?

505
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:32,600
And we have been living under
this new eagle sun, right?

506
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:37,080
This, this new era, this new
world order, right?

507
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,360
That's why I said that term
since the end of the last Ice

508
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,840
Age, right?
Where I think that our ancestors

509
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,280
before then, we're on a whole
different path.

510
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,960
They were using shamanistic
stuff, right?

511
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,600
And and like there was some of
that carried on through after

512
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,600
the last Ice Age, right?
Like if you go to some hunter

513
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,560
gatherer tribe in the Amazon,
you can find shamans, right?

514
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,600
You can find people who are like
keyed into the holistic version

515
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,720
of reality, right?
But as time went on, more

516
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:13,640
authoritarian, you know, nuts
and bolts type of, you know, war

517
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,840
and conquest, right?
Like all of these things, the

518
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:21,240
analytical mind, the new sun,
the Eagle faction, like all of

519
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:24,600
this is the new where is the old
was like a whole different

520
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,720
thing.
They were on psychedelics.

521
00:35:25,720 --> 00:35:29,400
They were building sacred
geometrical megaliths around the

522
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,200
world that were aligned with
true north and, you know, true

523
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,480
cardinal directions.
And they were aligned with stars

524
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,920
and they were harnessing
geomancy, right?

525
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,000
Like energy from the earth.
And like all these types of

526
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,160
things, like we went, they, they
got rid of that shit because

527
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,160
they had to install this new
control mechanism under this new

528
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,880
world order.
And that's where we've been at.

529
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,000
You know what I just thought of?
I'm going to share this.

530
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,080
I want yours.
I wonder if this has anything to

531
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,920
do.
See, like check this out, I'll

532
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,480
read, I'll read a little more of
this real quick.

533
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,360
So the eagle typically embodies
the sky, the sun, divine power,

534
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,400
freedom, and higher authority
associated with conquest,

535
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,680
vision, masculine or solar
principle.

536
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,520
In contrast, the serpent
symbolizes the earth, the

537
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,560
underworld, wisdom, temptation,
chaos, fertility, right?

538
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,360
The duality, this duality
frequently manifests as a battle

539
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,840
between the two, with the eagle
often triumphing over the

540
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,360
serpent, signifying the victory
of order, light, or civilization

541
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,800
over primal forces, right?
So these people, this Saturn

542
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,400
death cult, they use this
symbology and have for a few

543
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,040
1000 years to speak to each
other, if you will, right?

544
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,960
And they're kind of signaling
like, hey, we won over the past.

545
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:06,160
We took over the this earthly
holistic way of living with our

546
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:10,960
new authoritarian way of living,
our new control structures.

547
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,440
So do you think that this don't
try to me flag had anything to

548
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,080
do with it?
Yeah, I think that people who

549
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,080
who, who invented this, right,
like.

550
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,920
This was this was Benjamin
Franklin, I believe it was in

551
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,920
1754.
There you go, right?

552
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:35,200
Because actually that that piece
that you see right in the middle

553
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,040
of the screen there, that Joyner
guy was the original comic that

554
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:48,000
was drawn as part of a
recruitment for the I don't

555
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:54,640
remember, but the, the Gadsden
flag, the Don't Tread on Me flag

556
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,760
there was basically created as a
symbol of defiance, independence

557
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,040
and vigilance against
government.

558
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,640
It was basically for a
libertarian anti government

559
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,320
movements.
There you go.

560
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,160
I mean, they're literally there
you go.

561
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,120
That's exactly what I'm talking
about, right.

562
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,080
So you have people that are in
positions of power now and back

563
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,840
in Benjamin Franklin's day and
all through history that are

564
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,880
aware of this, right?
And they're and they're pushing

565
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,320
back against it, right?
This is all like a cult type

566
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,880
stuff, right?
Like you get into some of these

567
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,280
secret societies and how they
they view and operate the world

568
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,400
in the world.
Like, I believe that people like

569
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,400
Benjamin Franklin probably was
aware of this stuff to a certain

570
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,560
extent.
And like, you know, they use

571
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,600
these symbols again, to
communicate with each other.

572
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,120
And there is some like
subconscious element to this as

573
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,440
well, right?
Call it magic, if you will.

574
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,760
And he was probably playing into
that.

575
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,040
He was probably like, yo, we
have to create this flag with

576
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,560
the snake on it.
And it's a representation of

577
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,480
defiance to the authoritarian
rule, right?

578
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:07,080
And there you go.
That's interesting.

579
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:14,000
Yeah.
It is Yep.

580
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,800
And then I wonder if the the
Chinese dragon because it was

581
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:28,800
the Chinese dragon just folklore
wise compared to the European

582
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,760
dragon, right.
So the the Eastern versus

583
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:37,880
Western dragon, the western
dragon, the European dragon,

584
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:44,560
right was reptilian dinosaur
esque with wings right?

585
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,920
Badass brew basically out of
fairy tales.

586
00:39:49,720 --> 00:39:58,880
But the one that was in the
East, the Asian one, Chinese, it

587
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,240
was Serpentine, didn't have
wings, it actually.

588
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,120
In case you didn't know, got its
power to fly from an organ in

589
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:13,200
his head.
I wonder if that has anything to

590
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,560
do with it too.
I'm sure, I'm sure there's.

591
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,240
Symbolism in that culture.
Yeah, I'm sure there's like

592
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:25,280
symbolic, you know, significance
to that, you know, look.

593
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,680
That.
Up.

594
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,640
There's a lot there.
I mean, like, that's a whole

595
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,360
rabbit hole by itself right up
real quick.

596
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,080
In Chinese culture, the dragon,
a serpent like creature, is a

597
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,520
potential or a potent symbol of
imperial power, prosperity, and

598
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,960
divine favor.
Unlike Western serpents, often

599
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,600
tied to evil, the Chinese dragon
is benevolent, associated with

600
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,760
water, fertility and cosmic
harmony.

601
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,920
There remains a national symbol
seen in cultural festivals and

602
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:02,240
state imagery.
Not much there.

603
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:05,040
I mean there's some key keywords
but.

604
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,680
You also have order out of
chaos, right?

605
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,520
Which is like a Freemason thing,
right?

606
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,520
Let me see here.
Let me pull this up.

607
00:41:27,940 --> 00:41:29,980
Oh, I got something to look up.
Here we go.

608
00:41:33,420 --> 00:41:37,800
Share my screen.
Here we go.

609
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,960
So, Oh, that's Russian.
Yeah, this is.

610
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,120
Yeah, there's a bunch of
different eagle.

611
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,440
Yeah, right.
And you, you've got this

612
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:54,720
symbolism all over.
Here shit 33 the triangle,

613
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,320
everything.
You got the 33, which is, you

614
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,440
know, again, it's in the same
position as the sun, right?

615
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,640
And this symbol you have this
Serpentine like sword here,

616
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,480
right in the clutches of the
eagle.

617
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:15,000
Order out of chaos.
This is ordo AB ko order out of

618
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:20,000
chaos, right?
So there's something there for

619
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:20,520
sure.
What's?

620
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:32,360
Up Danny Russia The Double
Headed eagle Russia's coat of

621
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,240
arms features a double headed
eagle inherited from the

622
00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:40,600
Byzantine Empire through Ivan
the Third's marriage to Sophia.

623
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,760
I'm not going to even try to
pronounce that in 1472.

624
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,760
It symbolizes power, dominion
over East and West, and

625
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,800
continuity with imperial
traditions.

626
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,080
The eagle reflects Russia's
historical and modern ambitions

627
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:59,200
as a global power.
While not a primary symbol,

628
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,920
serpents appear in brush and
folklore, such as the dragon.

629
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:08,400
Cornish.
OK this mirrors the eagle

630
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,440
serpent struggle.
OK not much not much for serpent

631
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,920
anything in in Russia it's it's
pretty much just all eagle.

632
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,640
It's just folklore when it comes
to serpent.

633
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,720
Russia's use of the double
headed eagle aligns with its

634
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:32,240
geopolitical strategy to assert
influence across Europe and

635
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:35,240
Asia.
The absence of a prominent

636
00:43:35,240 --> 00:43:40,280
serpent symbol may suggest a
focus on imperial dominance over

637
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:51,280
internal or earthly challenges.
Very interesting.

638
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:54,400
Yeah.
And, you know, like, I don't

639
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:01,640
know if it could just be because
like the ancient people, like in

640
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Hermeticism, you have this, this
as above, so below thing, right.

641
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:10,800
So the ancients were trying to
mimic what they saw in the sky

642
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,000
on the ground.
This is why they built like a

643
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,200
lot of these megalithic
structures that aligned with

644
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,920
stars and all these types of
things.

645
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,760
OK.
They were trying to replicate

646
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,640
what they saw in the sky, right?
Which back to them was like

647
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,880
their gods.
A lot of these cultures, they,

648
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,160
they looked at the sky and
assumed it was the heavens,

649
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,000
right?
So they were trying to replicate

650
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,560
what they saw up there down
here.

651
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,120
And there is something to say
about like order out of chaos in

652
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,240
the natural world, right?
Like you have the formation of

653
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:44,360
galaxies and planets and all
these types of things where it's

654
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,400
like order out of the chaos,
right?

655
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,640
If that makes sense.
So this could just be a natural

656
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,120
progression of things when it
comes to civilizations and

657
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,160
intelligent beings in the
universe where you know you have

658
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:05,880
this chaotic holistic version of
existence and it over time it

659
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:10,040
just orders itself like self
ordering, right?

660
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:18,080
So it could just be like a tip
of the hat to that idea or

661
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:19,720
knowing that that happens,
right?

662
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:23,840
So it could be that you go back
a few thousand years, our

663
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,720
ancestors just kind of
understood these concepts and

664
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,560
they were just tipping the hat
to it.

665
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Like, hey, order out of chaos,
you know, the eagle taking out

666
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,440
the serpent like a new way of
life.

667
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,240
Like we're getting rid of this
primordial like way of living

668
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,880
and we're replacing it with this
more structured, civilized

669
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,400
system, right?
And it could just be a

670
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:49,880
representation of that, or it
could be more like, you know, I

671
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,360
think it's probably more like
purposely done, not necessarily

672
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,320
like the natural way of things.
You know what I'm saying?

673
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:57,680
I don't know if that makes
sense.

674
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:04,640
Yeah, it does.
I don't necessarily 100% agree,

675
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:09,520
but it's an interesting thought
exercise to go through.

676
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:16,280
It's it's worth exploring for
sure.

677
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:21,240
It is.
Even in, even in like, you know,

678
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,520
the Bible, for instance, where
you have the stories of like,

679
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,920
what's the two cities that got
naked Sodom and Gomorrah, right?

680
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,800
Because they, you know, these
two cities were, you know, there

681
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,120
was all this stuff was
happening, right?

682
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:35,120
What I don't know, gambling and
the prostitution, just like

683
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,360
degeneracy was going on in these
these two fucking places and God

684
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,360
decides to nuke these places,
right?

685
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:49,320
And like restart basically.
And you know, it's kind of a

686
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:56,000
that's another story of the same
thing where you had this

687
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:02,000
previous culture that people
might look at as like chaotic

688
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:08,560
and primordial and whatever
degenerate and then wipe it

689
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,040
clean.
Start with more structure.

690
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:16,800
Man dude sorry I was just going
down this other rabbit hole in

691
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,120
my fucking head that wasn't even
listening to you.

692
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,400
That's OK.
And then somebody was listening

693
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,760
and then you have today you have
these great reset, this great

694
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,480
reset that they're talking
about, right?

695
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,600
So it's like another like
another step in that where you

696
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,200
can look at the degeneracy in
society right now, right?

697
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,480
A lot of people would argue that
there's like a lot of fucking,

698
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,440
you know, degeneracy going on,
right?

699
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,760
And then you have the people at
the top, the World Economic

700
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,160
Forum, the Trilateral
Commission, like all these

701
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,640
people, the Bilderberg groups,
like they're all talking about

702
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,200
this great reset.
Like they want to reset

703
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,800
everything again.
It's like, do we just get to a

704
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:03,360
point where humans become, I
don't know, like chaotic as a

705
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,920
whole, as a group, and then the
elites have to figure out a way

706
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,680
to, to reset everything, wipe it
clean and then have more

707
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,360
structure, right?
And we're going to have like AI

708
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:17,160
and surveillance state in like
digital currencies and like all

709
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,400
these things that are going to
keep us more like boom, locked

710
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:22,400
in for another couple thousand
years.

711
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,160
And then we'll get chaotic at
the end of that cycle somehow.

712
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,080
And then they'll wipe it clean
and they'll be a whole new set

713
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,720
of rules and shit going in.
You know, that's kind of the way

714
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:39,240
I see it.
What were you thinking?

715
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:41,880
A lot, a lot of time will have
to pass.

716
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,360
Yeah, it's a multi thousand year
situation.

717
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,720
I mean, these people, these
people, OK, if you want to call

718
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:55,080
them people, they're operating
on these long time scales, these

719
00:48:55,080 --> 00:49:01,160
ages, right?
These 2000 year cycles, right?

720
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,200
So since the time of Jesus,
whether you believe it or not,

721
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:11,800
right, we've been living in this
age, Pisces, am I right?

722
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:17,360
We've been living in Pisces, The
fish, right?

723
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,880
And what is the symbol that
represents Jesus is the fish.

724
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,800
But if you went back to the age
prior to that, right?

725
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,840
What was that?
What did they worship then,

726
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,080
right?
I don't know the the specific

727
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,680
order, but this is something
that Michael would have talked

728
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,360
about if he came on tonight,
right?

729
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,040
You have these different ages,
right?

730
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,120
Like at one time it was the ram,
right?

731
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,080
And, and ram symbolism, the ram
horn, all these things, right?

732
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Like, you know, you have Taurus,
the bull, right?

733
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,720
You have all these civilizations
that had bull iconography,

734
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,760
right?
And then now we've been in the

735
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,360
fish, right?
We're moving into Aquarius,

736
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,240
right, which is the age of
knowing or the age of

737
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:02,920
information, right?
So we're moving through these,

738
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:07,160
these ages on the Zodiac
calendar, right?

739
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,480
The people at the top, they
follow this right.

740
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,560
Now I'm not talking about like
what's my horoscope today.

741
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:17,680
I'm talking about like true like
Zodiac shit, you know the sky

742
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,320
clock, right?
So these people are kind of

743
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,280
operating off of this.
And every 2000 or so years, the

744
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,280
age shifts and so does all of
the the structures of

745
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,760
civilizations as well.
The symbolisms, the religions,

746
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:35,960
the languages, the borders, the
monies, all of that shifts with

747
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,160
each age.
That's interesting.

748
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,840
That's really interesting.
I never really dove into that

749
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,080
whole Age of Aquarius thing.
Heard it plenty of times, but

750
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,680
never really dove into it.
I want to circle back here for a

751
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:56,120
second because that little, that
little personal rabbit hole I

752
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:01,000
was going down, I think that I
just want to, I just want to

753
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:11,840
mention it just because I found
I don't know, man, I don't know

754
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:25,920
why I started going down this,
but Reptilians, OK, Reptilians

755
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,680
bad, Serpent's bad.
Right.

756
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,280
You're convinced everyone is
convinced that there's

757
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,240
reptilians out there, Lizard
people, right?

758
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:39,600
Call them lizard people all the
time.

759
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,960
Lizard people are bad, right?
And I'm not.

760
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,720
I'm not poking at you, I'm just
saying in.

761
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:48,480
General, I'm tracking.
Yeah, I'm tracking.

762
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,720
I mean, shoot, there's even
supposed to be reptilian alien

763
00:51:53,720 --> 00:51:58,600
beings and and reptilian DMT
figures, right?

764
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,080
But either way, no matter what
we talk about, whenever you talk

765
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:09,800
about a reptilian being, they're
bad.

766
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:18,680
Well, what do we know with eagle
wings now?

767
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:25,360
It's not the biblical version,
but the modernized version of

768
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,760
angelic beings, right?
Angels.

769
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,200
They've got, they've got eagle
wings, right?

770
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:37,280
Yep.
So I mean, there's

771
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:43,160
glorification, yeah, and
demonization right there.

772
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,880
Yeah, the snake in the garden.
Yeah, yeah.

773
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,320
I mean.
And I'm not, I'm, I'm not trying

774
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,840
to tie biblical references and
right.

775
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,960
I'm just, I'm just saying, you
know the.

776
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,600
You're noticing the pattern that
I'm talking about, correct?

777
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:03,320
Correct, exactly.
It's it's you know, if if if

778
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:11,320
you're noticing or I'm I'm just
noticing a a theme, but you a

779
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,080
pattern, right?
What, what you just fucking

780
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:22,080
said, But I'm, I'm noticing that
that's being pushed on a a much

781
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:28,000
bigger front, right, because
I've I've heard right, Jake's my

782
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,360
best friend.
So I've heard plenty of times

783
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:36,920
that you know, the, the angels
with, with the, the big

784
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:43,720
elaborate wings and the Halos
and you know, the perfect facial

785
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:51,160
features and skin and whatever.
Those are not biblical angels,

786
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:52,720
right?
Biblical angels are much

787
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:56,120
different looking.
But why would they?

788
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,720
Why would they ever turn into
something that they're not

789
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:04,080
described to be?
Because it's a subconscious

790
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,040
implanting of these ideas,
right?

791
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:16,000
So I don't know, like there's
something about propagating

792
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,360
these archetypes through
generations subconsciously as

793
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,320
well.
You know, here's what's

794
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,840
interesting, right?
Like if you look at like, I

795
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:28,960
don't know, pick a movie where
you see these angelic beings,

796
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,120
right?
Like you said, they have these

797
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,720
eagle wings, they have the Halo.
And if you kind of look at it

798
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,320
and think about those images
that I brought up earlier,

799
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,040
right, you have this eagle
figure with the wings spread out

800
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,280
and the sun above the head,
right?

801
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,640
And that Halo?
Jeez, man.

802
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:53,760
OK, so there's something about
them implanting this, this

803
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,440
archetype subconsciously in our
minds.

804
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,160
I don't know if it's to remind
us or to keep control or

805
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,920
whatever the case might be.
Same with the reptilians thing,

806
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,720
right?
Like, you know, I'm, I'm

807
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,760
somewhat.
Shit, dude.

808
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:13,880
I'm somewhat aware of this this
concept and I still say the

809
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,160
lizard people referring to the
parasite class that runs the

810
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,120
world right.
Knowing in the back of my mind

811
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,880
that not really the the snake
culture, the lizard people are

812
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,280
probably the good guys if you
went back.

813
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,120
I don't mean to interrupt you
man, but we put this shit on top

814
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,240
of our Christmas tree.
Yeah.

815
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,560
We literally like worship this
shit dude.

816
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:50,640
Yes, yeah, yeah.
Look, man, religion, you know,

817
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:56,000
I, I don't have a problem with.
Here's the thing, man, Like it's

818
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,160
hard to talk about this because
you have people who are like

819
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,480
strong in their faith and then
they get turned off when you

820
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,400
talk about these things because
they think that you're shitting

821
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,120
on their faith.
But you know.

822
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,640
But they have to understand,
right?

823
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,280
If, if, if I wish, I wish Jake
was a part of this episode

824
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:15,400
because he would be able to
articulate this better, because

825
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:22,840
he would be able to back this up
and, and, and say, you know,

826
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:27,240
what we're talking about isn't
the biblical Angel, right?

827
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:30,840
We're not talking about what
should be upsetting people.

828
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,840
Right.
We're talking about an image

829
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,280
that has been planted.
Yeah.

830
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:40,480
We're talking about a Hallmark
card.

831
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:44,400
That's what we're talking about.
Yeah, You know, I don't know the

832
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,080
exact quote, but there's
something in the Bible about,

833
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,440
you know, like, like the church,
right?

834
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:53,920
Like the church is not
necessarily the place to go and

835
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,760
find God, right?
It's a.

836
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,120
Gathering of people.
So there's something to be said

837
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,440
about that where like when
you're, when you're talking

838
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,800
about these types of things,
it's not that I'm discrediting

839
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,160
anybody's religion or faith or
anything like that.

840
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,960
I'm just, I'm simply pointing
out, like you say, the patterns

841
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:17,560
of the symbology of what we
think when we talk about whether

842
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:22,880
it's Christianity or Judaism or
ancient religions or whatever

843
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,040
the case might be.
There's a, there's a clear

844
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,400
connection between the
symbology.

845
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,520
And I just think that the people
who maybe not even the people

846
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,160
who run the world, but the
people who run the information

847
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:42,640
in the world are using these
these archetypes, right, to

848
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:45,920
instill something in a
subconsciously, right?

849
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:50,520
Like there's definitely some
weird shenanigans going on in

850
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,160
there at some point, you know,
because there's a lot of people

851
00:57:55,160 --> 00:58:01,600
who do think that angels are
these human beings with or human

852
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,960
looking beings with wings in the
Halo.

853
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,280
Like there's a lot of people who
like, that's what they think

854
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,520
when you say Angel.
Like that's the mind that the,

855
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,400
the image that pops into their
mind is that right now when I

856
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,720
hear Angel, I'm thinking more of
like, I forget what it's called,

857
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:21,520
like the, the, the spinning
wheel with the eye and the you

858
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,360
know what I'm saying?
Like that's what I think when I

859
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,920
hear angels, right?
But that's also like when you

860
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,160
talk about UFOs or something
like that, like that's the same

861
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:34,160
image that pops into my mind.
Is this this spinning wheel

862
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,120
around this eye or something,
right?

863
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:42,760
Like, so there's something
capturing the subconscious ideas

864
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,840
of what we think of when we
think of all these concepts.

865
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:53,240
And that to me is the control
mechanism that the Saturn death

866
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,720
cult people have like instilled
in us over time.

867
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,920
It's not, it's not that I'm
shitting on.

868
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,680
I'm not saying like your God
doesn't exist.

869
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,520
That'd be, that'd be crazy,
right?

870
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,800
I'm somewhat spiritual myself.
I, you know what I mean, Like,

871
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:09,880
and I think most of us are even
the ones who claim to be

872
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,600
atheists and we don't
necessarily worship or study any

873
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,640
particular religion.
When you come face to face with

874
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:20,520
death or somebody in your family
comes face to face with death, I

875
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,320
think every single one of us
prays to somebody to something,

876
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,480
right?
I've done it and I'm not, I

877
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,360
don't ever claim to be a
religious type person at all.

878
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,560
But I can tell you right now, in
the few times in my life where I

879
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,720
really had like the fear of
death put in me, you know, I

880
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,760
looked up and was like, God,
please, right so.

881
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,600
Well, this is definitely not the
the path I was expecting to go

882
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:51,560
down, but this is a pretty cool
one, I'll tell you.

883
00:59:52,280 --> 01:00:00,960
Yep, I it's so funny too,
because I was just, I was just

884
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,840
thinking to myself the other day
how I need to narrow down.

885
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,840
The amount of shit that I
research and it's just like

886
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:15,080
every, every time that we have a
guest on or you and I get into

887
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,200
like these conversations, or I
even just start talking to

888
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,920
somebody somewhere and a new
topic comes up.

889
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,200
I end up buying a fucking book
on a brand new subject and I'm

890
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,320
going to end up looking for
books on this shit.

891
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,600
It's obnoxious, man.
You need to read that David Icke

892
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,520
book dude.
Does it cover that stuff?

893
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,400
He gets into it not not
directly.

894
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,400
I mean, it's not like a a focal
point of the book, but when you

895
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,760
when you read that book, dude,
and you and you might have to

896
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,600
read it two or three times, I
don't know.

897
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,040
But like I've.
Never read the book.

898
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,480
I've never read the book.
Personally, but I've watched and

899
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,040
listened to enough David Icke.
Do I know what he's talking

900
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,520
about in that book, right?
I know what the the concepts are

901
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:07,240
and all that stuff.
And, and I'm telling you, man,

902
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:11,120
like when you get into that
David Icke situation, you know,

903
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:14,240
he talks about the reptilians.
He talks about the Archons,

904
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,600
right, Which are the, the
entities behind, you know, the

905
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,400
Greys and the reptilians, right?
And he talks about the Saturn

906
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,000
death cults and how that
connects to all of the the

907
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,200
world's religions and the
control structures.

908
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:29,400
He talks about this, this matrix
that we live in.

909
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,520
It's not like the movie The
matrix.

910
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,960
It's not like a simulation.
It's a matrix in the sense that

911
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,280
like everything that we think we
know about reality is

912
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:44,560
manufactured right by somebody
or something and that we don't

913
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,520
live in the truth that we think
we live in, right?

914
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,640
That's basically the the gist of
what's in that book and what

915
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,000
David Icke talks about.
So when you get through it,

916
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,440
you're going to look at a lot of
things just differently.

917
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,840
You know, when when people talk
about certain things, you're

918
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,880
going to consider the fact that,
hey, maybe these are iconic

919
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:06,920
entities that are being that are
being used to manipulate us

920
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,760
through the layers of things,
right?

921
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,600
Like the greys and the
reptilians.

922
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:17,240
That's just one layer like above
us that, you know, we're being

923
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,760
visited and manipulated by these
entities.

924
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,760
Well, there's a layer above
those, and those are the

925
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,640
Archons, and there's a layer
above that, and so on and so

926
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,440
forth.
And you get up to the tops of

927
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,640
these layers and you realize
that these people are

928
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,400
worshipping an entity, yelled
the Bay off the Demiurge.

929
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:39,080
Saturn, Satan, right?
It's the same entity that is

930
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:44,760
like producing this false
reality that we live in, right?

931
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,920
It's not the true God.
It just thinks it's the true God

932
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:53,240
because it's not aware of God.
It's literally like the original

933
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,920
idea of good and evil.
You know, like ancient ones

934
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,920
talked about this type of thing.
It's deep shit bro.

935
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,320
I don't know you just you have
to read the book bro.

936
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,280
Yeah, I mean, he gets just
looking at these pages, man.

937
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,360
Like there's a lot of key terms
in your shit he goes into

938
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,720
doggone.
Dogon.

939
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Yeah, the Dogon.
Tribe.

940
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,000
Yeah.
Bohemian Grove.

941
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:27,720
Yep.
Serious, that's just wow Lamoria

942
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:38,160
all on this one page that's.
All right, let's see if I can

943
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,200
find a picture real quick before
we end this, because there's

944
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:48,240
like one image that I always see
sometimes that makes me like,

945
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,280
like it encompasses all of these
ideas into one image.

946
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,160
Chariots of the Gods is a is is
a good book.

947
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:07,880
Skeeter, it's Erich von Daniken
is the author.

948
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:14,760
There's some holes in it though.
I will.

949
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:16,920
I will say I've read that book a
couple times.

950
01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,320
I've read that book before I
started the podcast and I've

951
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,000
read it twice since starting the
podcast.

952
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:34,520
It is, it is a good book.
It is a good book, but we'll

953
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,600
have to save that conversation
for another day.

954
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:41,640
Here it is, I found the image.
Every book does have holes in

955
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:46,680
it, but it's his theories.
It's particular theories in it

956
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,160
that has holes in it.
It's just incomplete.

957
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:53,200
Can you see this?
Yeah.

958
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,160
Have you seen this before?
No.

959
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,600
OK, so the only reason I bring
this up because it's just like a

960
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,200
visual, a visual representation
of kind of what I'm talking

961
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:06,480
about here.
OK, you have like starting from

962
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,040
the bottom, right?
You have the masses, right?

963
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,520
Slaves, US food, energy, right?
This is why Alex Jones talks

964
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,600
about the interdimensional
psychic vampires, right?

965
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,920
This is why a lot of people talk
about them siphoning your

966
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,120
negative energies and these
types of things, right?

967
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,600
You have this pyramid structure,
right?

968
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,440
And all up from the bottom, you
have money, right?

969
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,240
You have the dollar, the euro,
all these different monies.

970
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,480
You have the countries, the
nation states, right?

971
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:37,080
You have numbers which are
important in like esoteric

972
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:41,200
traditions.
You have the flags of of secret

973
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,960
societies and you know other
things like that as well, right

974
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,560
going up.
Then you have the Abrahamic

975
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,760
religions in here.
You have this free free Masonic

976
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,120
symbol here as well.
If you notice around the human

977
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,680
being figure here, you have a
couple of entities that are

978
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:00,600
wrapping around you.
See this green alien looking

979
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:04,240
entity here, right?
You have this reptilian entity

980
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,880
over here, right?
They're wrapping around,

981
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,000
siphoning the energy off of us,
right?

982
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:15,680
Then above that you have these
archonic entities, these

983
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:19,600
entities that are essentially
the puppet masters of the

984
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:22,800
reptilians, the Grays, the
mantids, etcetera, right?

985
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:26,960
There's another layer,
interdimensional beings, archons

986
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,480
that are manipulating those
beings and above them is another

987
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,400
layer of entities and so on and
so forth.

988
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,680
And you get up to this Demiurge
figure.

989
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:41,680
This is the figure here,
Demiurge, y'all, the Bay off

990
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,240
that the Saturn death cult
people worship, right?

991
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:47,200
And notice Saturn's at the top
and it's in this matrix code.

992
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:51,720
It's almost as if like they're
creating this false reality that

993
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:56,960
we all exist in through all of
these different layers, right?

994
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:00,600
And Saturn, the thing that's
interesting about Saturn, bro,

995
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,720
like I can do, I could go on for
hours about Saturn by itself.

996
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:10,000
I mean, we've all seen the image
of the cube or the hexagon on

997
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,800
top of Saturn, right?
From NASA, right?

998
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:20,080
That how do I explain this?
So on the top of Saturn, anybody

999
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,280
can look this up on Google.
And I don't think this is a real

1000
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,240
picture, by the way, because I
don't think that we've ever

1001
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:29,600
fucking gone to space.
This is just more SIOP handed to

1002
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,600
us from these fucking parasite
class.

1003
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:36,920
But they tell us that on the
North Pole of Saturn is this

1004
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:41,960
perfect hexagon.
OK, the storm that's brewing and

1005
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,880
it's creating a perfect hexagon.
Well, if you know anything about

1006
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:51,040
geometry, A2 dimensional hexagon
is just a A2 dimensional

1007
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,480
representation of a
three-dimensional shape, which

1008
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,200
is a cube.
OK, that cube, right?

1009
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:03,120
This black cube is one of the
symbols that the the Saturn cult

1010
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,520
worships.
So you can look at every one of

1011
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:11,520
the Abrahamic religions and you
can deduce their main symbols to

1012
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,640
a cube.
So if you go to Islam, what do

1013
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,359
they have?
The the, what's the big thing

1014
01:08:16,359 --> 01:08:20,160
called?
You know, they, they all walk in

1015
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,160
a circle around this black cube,
right?

1016
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,120
It's.
Literally a black cube, yeah.

1017
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,760
It's literally a black cube and
they they walk in concentric

1018
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,000
circles around it, representing
these rings of Saturn around

1019
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,560
this cube.
OK, then if you go to Judaism,

1020
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,479
what do they wear?
The little cube on their on

1021
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,560
their head, right?
You know what I'm talking about.

1022
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,640
Not the Yamaha, but they wear
this, they wear this cute.

1023
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:42,760
You never you know what I'm
talking about.

1024
01:08:43,359 --> 01:08:44,520
No.
Hold on, hold on.

1025
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:46,040
Give me one second.
Give me one second.

1026
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:50,240
But I know that the the cross
folds up into a cube.

1027
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,600
The cross folds up into a cube.
Yep.

1028
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:03,520
Here we go.
The rabbi's wear this.

1029
01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:12,840
Here we go.
Share, Share.

1030
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,920
OK, the rabbi's wear this black
cube on their foreheads.

1031
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:25,760
OK, like you said, the the cross
folds up into a cube, right?

1032
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,520
There's cube like, here's
another.

1033
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:40,080
This might get us in trouble.
OK, you've got cube symbolism

1034
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,840
all over the place.
Here's the one in.

1035
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:49,279
For those listening on Spotify,
that's the Star of David.

1036
01:09:52,920 --> 01:10:00,200
OK, so the people at the top,
they worship the black cube and

1037
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:05,240
that black cube is just a
representation of Saturn, which

1038
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:16,360
is just an like an archetype or
a representation of Satan or the

1039
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:19,960
Demiurge yelled the Bay off.
So that you know, and this goes

1040
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:21,680
back to what we were talking
about the beginning with the

1041
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:25,560
evil versus serpent.
I think that they they did

1042
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:30,200
something to manipulate our
ancestors and through time,

1043
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,960
they're still manipulating us
with this whole concept, this

1044
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:38,960
whole idea, right?
We don't even realize it, but we

1045
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:42,880
carry around a fucking black
Cuban or pockets everyday.

1046
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:46,360
And this black cube is a
surveillance device, tracking

1047
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,640
device, mind control device,
right?

1048
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,640
It's shortening our attention
spans.

1049
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,240
It's creating degeneracy in
society.

1050
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,760
It's like doing all the the, the
fucking shitty things, right?

1051
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,280
This is Satan in your pocket,
right?

1052
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,360
This is Saturn.
This is the black cube, right?

1053
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:08,360
You ever wonder why all screens
are black cubes?

1054
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,000
Black squares?
Black cubes?

1055
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,520
Every TV in your house is a
black cube.

1056
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,200
Why aren't they circles?
Why aren't they ovals?

1057
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,280
Why aren't they, You see what
I'm saying?

1058
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,760
Like there's something here
that's happening where there is

1059
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,920
a subconscious level of control.
We're all worshipping this black

1060
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,000
cube and we have no idea that
we're doing it.

1061
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,440
Even if you're not, even if
you're worshipping the cross, or

1062
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:33,400
you're worshipping at the foot
of the Star David, or you're

1063
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,560
walking in these circles around
the cube in Mecca, right?

1064
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:40,560
Like you're worshipping Saturn
and you don't even realize it.

1065
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,640
That's all in David Icke's book,
by the way, too.

1066
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:53,840
Shelter on the matrix.
I don't know about the the whole

1067
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,880
TV screen thing.
It's a portal.

1068
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,320
I feel like that's the basic.
You get into it.

1069
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:04,400
Design.
No, you get into it deeper and

1070
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,640
you realize it's a portal of
sorts, right?

1071
01:12:08,440 --> 01:12:14,880
It's a portal.
Sounds pretty, but you get into

1072
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,080
it.
And you could go deep on logos

1073
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:21,480
too.
A lot of corporate logos have

1074
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,320
Saturn or cube symbology in
there as well, and you don't

1075
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,640
realize it until you start
seeing it.

1076
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,000
Like I drive around town every
single day and I'm like, that's

1077
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:32,160
that's Saturn symbology.
That's Saturn symbology.

1078
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:36,920
We talked about this early early
in your tenure shift here at

1079
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:38,560
Infinite Rabbit Hole.
Yeah.

1080
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:44,200
Toyota.
Toyota Nissan is a Saturn,

1081
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:45,560
right?
Saturn.

1082
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,640
There's literally a car Saturn,
right?

1083
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,640
Saturn V rocket, right?
There's also certain colors,

1084
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,320
black and gold are
representations of Saturn.

1085
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:59,160
So there's a lot of corporate
logos and things that are that

1086
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:04,920
use black and gold.
Yeah, schools, right?

1087
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,480
There's a lot, man.
Like that goes that's a whole

1088
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:11,120
bro.
We can talk for 20 hours about

1089
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,880
Saturn symbolism, but it all
connects to this eagle versus

1090
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,520
serpent thing.
It all connects to this, all the

1091
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,000
shit that we're talking about
right here.

1092
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,440
All right, man, let's go ahead
and wrap this up.

1093
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,800
Fair enough.
Next, like I said, next week we

1094
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:33,440
don't have a guest.
The week after that, I get my my

1095
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:37,360
time in the limelight because it
is my kind of subject, not

1096
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,720
Jeffrey's.
It is.

1097
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:45,240
We are going to have an author
on to talk about some some

1098
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,680
cryptids.
Kind of excited about that.

1099
01:13:49,640 --> 01:13:52,160
Going to get a silent Jeff.
It's be great.

1100
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,680
Perfect.
It's going to be great.

1101
01:13:57,080 --> 01:13:59,520
He's going to he's going to be
so silent.

1102
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,800
And then after that, we have a a
nice little surprise for you

1103
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:14,760
guys, special guest after that
one, he is going to announce a

1104
01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:20,400
book and it'll be cool.
It'll be cool.

1105
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,920
Yeah.
I don't really have anything

1106
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:27,400
else.
I don't either.

1107
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,640
We should probably cut it here,
because if I go too far down

1108
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:31,800
this Saturn rabbit hole, we'll
be here all fucking night.

1109
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,000
Well.
I mean, we, we don't have a

1110
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:36,720
guest as of right now for next
week, so save it.

1111
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:40,360
Sorry I muted you.
What'd you say?

1112
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,280
Did you really?
Yeah, I said we don't have a

1113
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,160
guest for next week, so save it.
OK?

1114
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,360
What an asshole.
It's an accident.

1115
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,040
It's this touch screen button
right here.

1116
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,680
It's like right next tomorrow.
See, that's why I don't set up

1117
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,640
my stream deck.
I just need to adjust it.

1118
01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,720
I need to move it because I do.
Sometimes I'll place my hand

1119
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,360
here just like preemptively
getting ready to mute myself and

1120
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,600
I'll accidentally hit the mute
you instead.

1121
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,920
You're hilarious.
All right, Well, that has been

1122
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:12,080
another episode of The Infant
Rabbit Hole.

1123
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,960
Until next time, travelers,
we'll see you right here.

1124
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:19,280
All right, bye, buddy.
Adios.

1125
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:29,240
Hey everybody, thanks for
checking out the Infinite Rabbit

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Hole podcast.
If you're looking for more of

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our stuff, head on over to
infiniterabbithole.com where you

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can find links to all the
podcast players that we are

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available on and even our video
platforms such as TikTok and

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YouTube.
While you're there, make sure to

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check out all the links for our
socials and hit that follow so

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you know when all the new stuff
from our podcast comes out.

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And until next time, travelers,
we'll see you right here in the

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next fork in the path of the
Infinite Rabbit hole.

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Bye.