243. 3i/Atlas: Mysteries & Theories
Join us on this episode of the Infinite Rabbit Hole as we delve into the cosmic enigma of 3i/Atlas, an interstellar object sparking intrigue and debate. Discover the mysterious Fibonacci light pulses and explore theories ranging from extraterrestrial origins to cosmic conspiracies while we navigate the complexities of space phenomena, government secrecy, and the potential implications for our world. Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole! #3iAtlas #CosmicMysteries #RabbitHole
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Welcome back to the Infinite
Rabbit Hole.
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I'm your host, Jeremy, and today
nothing's going according to
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plan yet again.
Got to love it.
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It's all right.
We were going to have Michael D
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Winkle on today trying that
interview for the second time.
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I'm just going to do an
interview with him off of the
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Internet, just over Zoom or
something.
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I do owe him an interview and
trust me, I want to talk to him.
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He's got a lot of really cool
things to discuss.
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He recently published a book,
it's called Beasts Beyond
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Belief.
If you're watching this episode,
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whether it be on Spotify or
YouTube or whatever, this is the
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cover of his book.
I will just put out a quick note
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about this and why I want to
talk about this book so much.
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I often get asked for good
reference material for cryptids
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or whatever, pick a topic.
In fact, last week I did a
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really cool panel with with
somebody loud Blackburn where we
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just discussed cryptids and
urban legends and, and we just
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kind of answered a bunch of
questions for fictional authors.
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They're using a Cryptid or a
monster creature, something as
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an antagonist and their
fictional book.
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And you know, I, I told them the
same thing.
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I really tell everybody else.
If you want a good just overall
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book set for cryptids or
creatures, the books that you
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really want to have are from
George Eberhardt.
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And what these are, are
encyclopedias.
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But these are great books.
They're encyclopedias and they
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cover nothing but cryptids.
It's called Mysterious
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Creatures, a guy to
cryptozoology.
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But where Michael D Winkle does
it different is that he covered
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a ton of odds and end pieces
that you'll never see somewhere
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else.
For example, the Flabit.
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It was mentioned in multiple
newspapers and there was reports
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of people seeing it, including
police reports over a 2 day span
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in Oklahoma.
Very interesting creature that
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I've never heard about.
Basically it's a rabbit with
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wings.
Don't really have another way to
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explain that.
That's what it is.
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Tons and tons of really good
stories about things you don't
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hear about all the time.
No Bigfoot, no Mothman, no
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Jersey Devil, no you know,
things that you just get a dime
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a dozen wherever you look in the
Cryptid world.
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These are things that just don't
hear about.
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Can you hear me now, Jake?
Can I mute him?
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No, not babe, I said Jake.
Same thing, I said Jake, not
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babe.
Well, I have a feeling that this
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episode's going to go toss this
one too.
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Hey Cub.
Jacob.
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He's got my sunglasses on, he
said.
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He didn't have those.
Those are mine.
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Are you sure?
Maybe they just look like
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you're.
Nope, those are mine.
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I specifically say hey man, you
got my red glasses.
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He's like, no.
Maybe he's dressed up as you.
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He's not.
I don't own that shirt.
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You guys look the same.
It's true.
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It is true.
We do look the same.
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You got your speakers on Jake.
Does this mean I get to go to
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bed early tonight?
Yeah, probably.
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The white guy fox mask is
definitely the best.
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Oh yeah, 100% dude.
Definitely the best.
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Anyways, while whatever is going
on over there is going on, you
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were talking about Three Eye
Atlas right?
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Funny story, that article I sent
you and the rest of the chat,
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apparently they caught it
flashing lights perfectly
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mimicking the Fibonacci sequence
or the golden ratio.
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How fuck cool is that?
And then you come off and you
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say that we're not getting those
pictures because you're right,
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they took those pictures on
October 2nd.
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So wait wait wait.
Are you saying it was like
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luminescent trans?
What is it?
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Well, they, they originally
thought that it would, it might
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have been like reflections from
the sun, right?
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But then somebody noticed that
it's, it's going off in the
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perfect sequence of, of the
Fibonacci sequence.
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So like, think of how you would
picture a perfect spiral in
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sound.
It would go boop boop.
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Boop, boop, boop.
Right, so the beep that moves
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furthest away from the origin
sound would be double the the
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length and time between its last
one.
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So let's say the the time
between the first two beeps were
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or the flashes.
And in the case of three, IF
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only took one second, right?
The second or the third one.
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So the the time between the
second flash and the third flash
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would take 2 seconds and then
the time between the third flash
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and the fourth slash flash would
be 4 seconds and then between
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the 4th and 5th would be 8 and
so on, right?
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So it was flashing lights or
what they thought was just sun
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reflection off reflecting off of
it in a perfect Fibonacci
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sequence.
OK, I mean, that's pretty crazy.
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Hey, we hear you.
Can you hear us?
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We hear you.
We hear you.
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We this fucking guy.
He looks tired.
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Yeah, he does two things about
that.
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Number one seems crazy on the
face #2 everything is in nature
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has Fibonacci sequence encoded
into it.
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So is it as crazy as it sounds?
Yes and no, right?
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Biology does right.
It's not necessarily a random
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chunk of rock, right?
You can't look into a crystal
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right at the microscopic level
and see the Fibonacci sequence
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or the golden ratio.
Now, if you looked at at the way
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plant is like a lot of plant
life comes up snail shells,
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ferns, there's there's a lot of
different examples where they
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grow in a perfect Fibonacci
sequence.
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So it's it's.
It's more than just biology.
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I just, I, I mean I just even
googled it just to make sure I'm
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not an idiot, but the Fibonacci
sequence appears in space
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through applications and lunar
mapping, the potential spiral
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patterns or some galaxies, the
general mathematical
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relationships and planetary
orbits.
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So now the the Galaxy, that's a
good argument, right?
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Yes, the galaxies do tend to
take on a perfect Fibonacci
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sequence, but that's not because
of growth or of a natural static
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pattern.
It's technically centrifugal
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force, right?
So you not believing in gravity,
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right?
Wouldn't, it may not make a ton
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of sense to you, but centrifugal
force basically is think of the
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Gravitron, right?
The the carnival ride where you
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stand there and, and spins
really fast and you stick to the
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wall, right?
So think of that and think of
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how that outward momentum would
go from that point of origin in
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the center of of that ride.
Like let's say there were no
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walls and we just flew off of
it, but we instead of flying off
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of it and laying on the ground,
we just continued out into
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space.
That's basically in a nutshell
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what is happening with galaxies.
Can you hear us now, Jake?
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No, we can't hear you.
I heard you before.
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Can you hear us, Jacob?
Yes.
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Hey, there he is.
There I am.
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Yes, yes I can.
Are those my sunglasses?
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No, there's some cheap crappy
711 sunglasses because my I got
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lasik 2 days ago and I'm super
light sensitive so I just need
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something.
I told you those weren't your
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glasses.
Those look like the ones I wore
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the UFO days two years ago.
Those look.
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Stolen from you?
I don't know.
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We'll see.
We'll see if you can find them
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or not, I suppose.
All.
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Right.
That's funny.
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Well, what up, Jake?
What's up dude?
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I had a costume to wear.
It was a grizzly bear costume
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and then it broke while I was
wearing while I was trying to
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put it on.
In a hurry to get on this
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episode because your guests
failed.
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I was watching and then
everything went to crap and I
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was like here's my time to shine
and then I ripped the costume in
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half, so here I am.
I thought you were just dressed
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up as Jeremy tonight.
Yeah.
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You'd think that, you know, with
his.
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Glasses and all.
You know, we're pretty, we're
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pretty similar except for some
minor differences.
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Jeff said identical.
Yeah, you got, oh, it's like our
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eye color and our hair color and
that's about it.
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Well, you look at his eye color
is obviously red.
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Mine's green.
You guys are literally the same
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person, what are you talking
about?
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I don't know about that.
He's prettier.
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Jeffrey is such a smart guy.
Well, all right, so we were
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going to do this episode at
another time, but here it is.
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Jake is coming back.
Here I am.
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Welcome back, Jake.
Thanks.
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He came crawling back once
again.
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Yeah, that's me crawling back,
Jake.
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Crawling back, Jake.
So you still haven't finished
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that?
You still have.
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No, no, definitely not.
Well, we were just talking.
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Did you hear what we were
talking about?
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Something about some such or
another.
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Yes, yes, you were paying
attention.
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Good.
Yes, no Fibonacci sequence or
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some such or another.
The three I Atlas You familiar
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with the three I Atlas?
No, I don't get any nerd stuff.
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Interstellar.
Object which is funny.
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I was.
Just watching The 4th Kind
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before your guys's interview
went to shit and then I was just
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like, oh, got.
It Oh yeah, I started watching
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the midnight sky and I passed
out about 10 minutes into it.
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Well, it's it's it's was it
October?
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So I got to watch all the scary
movies and stuff.
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Here's here's another article.
Let's see, this is this is not
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the same one that I shared with
you Jeffrey, but.
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I didn't.
I didn't read the first one so.
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I know you didn't.
I got to take the mask off.
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I can barely.
This one.
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This one's from usaherald.com.
Researcher claims interstellar
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object three eye Atlas emitted
Fibonacci sequence light pulses
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on Fatima anniversary.
Are you guys familiar with
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Fatima?
Fatima.
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Sounds familiar, but you have to
remind me.
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You have to remind me.
Sounds very familiar.
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What the?
Sounds like a Greek thing.
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No.
No.
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Maybe a Sumerian thing?
It was in 1970.
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All right, we'll just give you
the here.
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I'll just bring it up.
See a Bitcoin headline there?
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Here's just the AI overview of
the Fatima or Fatima UFO
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incident.
Refers to the interpretation of
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the 1917 miracle of the Sun as a
possible UFO event due to
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witness descriptions of a
luminous disc like object
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dancing in the sky, radiating
light and descending towards a
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crowd.
While the Catholic Church
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designated the event a miracle,
ufologist and alternative
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researchers suggest the
phenomenon could have been a
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sighting of an unidentified
flying object, based on accounts
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that align with modern UFO
reports.
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So this originally happened on
October 13th, 1917.
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This is something that we should
cover.
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So I'm not going to dive into it
too far because I want to
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eventually cover that whole
incident.
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I mean, the Catholic Church will
literally deem anything a
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miracle.
You have rust coming out of a
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iron statue of the Virgin Mary
out of its eyes and the demon as
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a miracle.
It's really, you know, pushed
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past the Catholic Church.
But I mean, that is interesting
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for sure.
I mean, to have a bunch of
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eyewitnesses to an event is very
interesting.
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Of course.
Yeah, the Catholic Church will
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say like a, a burnt thing that
looks like the face of Jesus on
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a piece of bread is a miracle.
I mean, it's just pushed past
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that.
But anything else you know, with
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where you have any sort of a
interstellar or a celestial sort
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of body that has a lot of
eyewitnesses and stuff is
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incredible in itself, certainly.
Yeah, well, here's going back to
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the usaherald.com some of the
key developments as they list.
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Independent researcher David
Sarita reports observing
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structured light pulses from
interstellar object Three Eye
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Atlas on October 13, 2025,
exactly 108 years after the
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miracle of the Sun at Fatima.
The claimed pulse patterns 5813
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flashes matches the Fibonacci
sequence, a mathematical pattern
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found throughout nature that
leads to the golden ratio 1.618.
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NASA Solar Dynamics Observatory
went offline concurrent with the
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observations, preventing
independent verification as
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three eye Atlas approaches its
closest point to the sun.
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And that Jeff aligns with what
you were discussing a little
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bit.
Do you want to?
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Do you want to restate what you
were talking about, Sir?
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Which part?
About us not getting images.
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Yeah, so this thing apparently
flew by.
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Why am I keep going and out of
focus?
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Bro I hate that.
Don't worry about it, just do
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your thing man.
It's, it's odd to me that, well,
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there's just a lot really, but
this thing flies closest to Mars
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that it's ever going to get.
And the plan was apparently to
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turn some of those satellite
imagery, whatever's at it, and
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get some close up pictures,
right.
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And they were going to be twice
as good as the Hubble pictures,
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OK.
And apparently they took, this
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is on October 2nd, I think was
the date that they were supposed
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to do this.
I might be wrong on the exact
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day, but it was like around
then.
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It was like the beginning of
October.
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They didn't share those images
with anybody.
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They didn't share them with
scientists, astronomers.
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They didn't share them with the
public, even though you paid for
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them.
The government happens to shut
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down right at the same time.
Now, I'm not saying that the
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government shut down because of
this, but there's, you know, the
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government shutdown is because
of a lot of things, right?
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There's a long list of reasons
why they would shut this
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government down.
Sure, there's like.
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Also also that they just do it
annually.
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They do it all the time, right?
Yeah.
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You know what I'm saying?
And like, I was talking to one
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of my my buddies about this, you
know, and he was making the
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point, yeah, they shut it down
because, you know, Democrats
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wanted this and Republicans
wanted that and blah, blah,
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blah, blah.
So the government shut down.
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Sure, fine.
But what I'm saying is that
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there's probably a list of
things that they could check the
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box and be like, Oh yeah, by the
way, since the government's
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going to be shut down, we could
just make this excuse of why we
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don't have to share these
fucking images or why we didn't
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take these images or whatever
the case might be.
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All right, So it's not the
reason, but I think it's just
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like another check box that they
checked off because of the
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government shutdown.
But the point really is they
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either took the pictures and
they aren't sharing them with
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everybody, which is odd, right,
because NASA loves sharing their
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little color by number pictures.
It's like their big thing.
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You didn't get these ones.
So I don't know, man, but you
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know, like Jeremy Korbel was
talking and I don't really trust
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Jeremy Korbel.
We all know this on the show,
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but he's.
Fucking odd man.
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It's odd.
And he did that thing a few
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months ago where he was sitting
down on the stool in the spooky
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room and he was like, look, man,
they're going to try to trick
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everybody and say there's an an
extraterrestrial threat of some
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kind.
And, you know, be aware and
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remember that whole thing that
he did.
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And it's just odd to me.
So I'm in this weird spot
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because we all know that I don't
trust anything that comes out of
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the space agencies as far as
information, right?
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So on one hand, I don't think
there's actually an object.
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I don't think this is anything,
actually.
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On the other hand, I think that
they're going to make everybody
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think that there is and that
it's a threat of some kind.
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And the more that all this stuff
is kind of like playing out the
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way it is, it's really pushing
me towards that Project Blue
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Beam situation, which again, to
me is not alien invasion.
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It's just extraterrestrial
threat, asteroid impact, comet
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impact.
Maybe it's an alien threat, and
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whatever it is, it's a threat
from outside.
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And that's just what I kind of
see playing out, man.
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It's kind of crazy.
So what was it back in the 90s,
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right?
Serge Manasse came out with the
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whole Project Blue beam theory,
right?
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Right.
He was from Canada, right?
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Didn't they end up having him
killed?
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I'm not.
I'd have to look into it.
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It's been a long time since I
looked up Serge Manask.
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I want to say he's supposedly
died of cancer or something,
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right?
But.
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His whole theory was that they
were going to use hologram
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projections in the sky to fake
an alien invasion and blah,
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blah, blah.
And that's possible, right?
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But I've just, over the years
developed like a different
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understanding of Project
Bluebeam.
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That's not, Surgeman asks.
Understanding to me that the
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threat, it's just a threat from
outside the Earth that nobody
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can verify.
We just have to trust the words
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of the experts and the
government officials and say,
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Yep, there's a threat, right?
Kind of like the pandemic
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situation.
It's just like just just trust
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the experts bro.
Like there's a problem.
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Well, it's three eye Atlas.
It it it does it has so many I
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don't know.
It just stinks of of like a
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modern project Bluebeam.
And with how much notoriety that
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the topic had, especially, you
know, in the in the 20 to 2000,
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2010, 2000 twenties, when people
just really started talking
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about Project Bluebeam, you
would think that because of how
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many people were aware of the
concept that they would have to
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have changed it up, right.
And this, this three eye Atlas
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is, is fitting into that empty
void, if you will, very nicely.
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And it's all right.
I reached out to a buddy of
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mine, OK, I have a buddy out in
Hawaii guys served with and he's
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a part of this astronomy club
out there.
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OK, I asked him.
I say, hey, man, do you know
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anything about this?
He said, yeah, they track it.
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So he meets up there every three
or four days, a couple times a
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week, and they do random things,
right?
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They're obviously the one thing
that they're really heavily
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tracking right now is 3 I Atlas.
There was a good portion of time
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in September where they were
able to see it almost every
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night.
They can't see it right now
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because the sun's in the way.
So when it's night time, we're
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facing the complete opposite
way.
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He said it.
You know this three I Atlas was
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something that we were tracking
for a while and we are
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supposedly going to be able to
track it again come November,
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December timeframe when it
breaks away from the sun more
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and we can get a better view of
it again in the night sky.
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Now I do believe in space,
right?
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And I believe not necessarily I
agree with you to the point of
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that we're not being told
everything right.
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I do believe that they have a
lot more figured out about space
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then what is out there for the
public knowledge where your
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belief is slightly different,
right.
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We both see that there's issues,
We just.
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Believe that there are different
issues.
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I do believe that there is
something out there.
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I know somebody who's personally
tracked it.
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What it is, I don't know.
I have no idea.
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My gut says, man, it's just a
space rock, right?
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It's just something flying by.
It's probably happened hundreds
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of thousands of times.
We just had the technology now
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to be able to see it and
recognize it.
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But then you have all this weird
shit that's happening, right?
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Like you said, NASA is not
giving us the, the, the images
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now a government shutdown.
I'll tell you one thing, OK?
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You watch the mainstream news
and they're constantly putting
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out all this bad shit about the
government shutdown and what it
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means for taxpayers and people
who work for the government and
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how they're never going to get
paid.
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Well, I can tell you in my 8
year career, and I'm sure Jake
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has similar stories, my 8 year
career in the Navy, the the
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government shut down every year
and I got paid every year.
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It never stopped.
OK.
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Nope.
So the whole government
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employees not getting paid,
there's a reserve of money for
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them to get paid, OK, It's not.
I didn't get paid twice with
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Obama thanks to his government
or his military cutbacks.
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I got 2 missing paychecks, 2
months and then they had to bail
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me out.
But they fed bailed me out so it
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wasn't like I didn't get paid
right.
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They gave me a no cost loan that
I did paying back over course of
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some time.
But yeah.
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See, I I never saw anything like
that.
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But the government shut down.
Wow.
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Never nice.
Not once.
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Here's the news.
Sorry.
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Go ahead.
But the government shuts down
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every single year and it's
always at this time, this is
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when the fiscal year starts.
Yeah, it does for sure.
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And you usually don't see
anything really come from it
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until after the holidays.
They're just taking the extended
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fucking holiday break and
they're doing it on your fucking
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dime.
And they're they're going to
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throw a fit about not, you know,
getting their, their yearly
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raise or, you know, so and so's
not adding this to this bill and
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whatever.
But really, it's probably
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because they want more fucking
money to do nothing.
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Yeah.
I mean, and at the same time
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they want to be able to take a
three month vacation.
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That's yeah, and it's it's to
score political points against
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the opponents all the time.
It's their fault or No, no, no,
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this time it's their fault.
You know, it's it's a fucking
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shell game, dude.
It's retarded.
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But check this out.
I just found this Manhattan size
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interstellar object three eye
Atlas emitting metal alloy never
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seen in nature.
Yeah, so alloys, right, you guys
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familiar with?
Alloys blow it up.
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Alloys are just basically mixed
metals.
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Now the the particular we know
what it is and the the reason
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why we can tell what it is is
because of certain imagery
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imaging technologies that we
have.
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If it shines a certain color
basically corresponds to
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something whatever some some
metal that we know of or
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elements, right?
Yeah, there you go.
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So.
Manhattan size interstellar
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object zipping through the
solutions, reducing a metal
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alloy never witnessed in nature,
the expert told the Post.
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New images of mysterious object
taken by the Keck 2 telescope in
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Hawaii, where your buddy is, in
August and released Wednesday
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confirmed the interstellar flare
flyer.
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Excuse me, Interstellar flyer is
emitting a plume which contains
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4 grams of nickel per second
with no evidence of iron.
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Unheard of in comments, the end
result is an alloy called Nickel
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Tetra carbinol, which has only
ever been previously witnessed
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in human manufacturing, doctor
Avi Loeb told The Post.
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Avi Loeb is the same guy who
originally presented the idea
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that Three Eye Atlas was
extraterrestrial too.
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That's that Harvard astronomer.
He has a really good book by the
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way, it's called
Extraterrestrial.
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Phenomenal book.
Yeah, well, it's funny because
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if you go on NASA's website,
right, NASA says, hey, look,
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this object poses no threat to
Earth, right?
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The trajectory, the distance,
blah, blah, blah, poses no
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threat.
So on one hand you have that.
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On the other hand, you have all
these other people talking about
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all this weird phenomena.
You got Avi Loeb talking about,
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you know, odd phenomena going on
with this.
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You got the Fibonacci lights,
whatever is happening there.
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So to me, somebody's full of
shit.
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And if I got to guess, if I had
to put my money, but to put my
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Bitcoin on it, who's full of
shit?
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I'm going to say it's probably
NASA because they're usually
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full of shit.
So if that's the case, then this
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thing does pose a threat.
They just haven't gotten that
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far yet.
Right?
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Like they haven't hit us with
that part of it yet.
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Which I, I, I think it's coming,
whether it's a real threat or
452
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,640
not.
You know, I got a lot of really
453
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,200
good fucking feedback from our
episode that we that we talked
454
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,680
about this and the potential for
a collision with Mars.
455
00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,560
Dude, I got.
It's not the Mars thing I'm
456
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,400
worried about, right?
Look, OK, look, I know I'm the
457
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,920
space's fake guy, but I'm just
going to set that aside and just
458
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,560
assume the models that they tell
us are correct.
459
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,320
If you look at the trajectory,
this thing already passed Mars,
460
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,040
it's behind the sun right now.
We don't we can't see it until
461
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,720
the end of December.
Once it keeps going, it's going
462
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,720
to pass behind Jupiter, right?
Jupiter, it's on the same plane
463
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,280
as all of the all of our
planets, right?
464
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,520
So once it goes past, Jupiter's
going to continue on and it's
465
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,960
going to kind of go behind
Jupiter.
466
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,280
We all know Jupiter has a
massive gravitational pull,
467
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,840
right?
Look at the Shoemaker Levy
468
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,760
comets that hit Jupiter in the
90s, right?
469
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,800
It broke up into like 20
something pieces and slammed
470
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,240
into Jupiter.
And that was the first time that
471
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,640
we're all like, oh shit, this
happens.
472
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,440
Is it possible that this object
gets slung, shot by Jupiter's
473
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:13,360
gravity and it alters the
trajectory to where it comes
474
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:18,680
back and now it's a threat?
I'm going to say that it there
475
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,840
is a chance that it could get
influenced by Jupiter's
476
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,440
gravitational pull, but it will
not be strong enough to be able
477
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,440
to ricochet it back at us.
Not directly, not directly, but
478
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,680
it could alter that trajectory.
And then, and then they might
479
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,080
come back and say, hey, look, in
50 years, this thing's going to
480
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,640
swing back around, right?
It's not going to be like
481
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,960
tomorrow.
It's not going to be like and
482
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,400
come right back at us.
But it could be a thing where it
483
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,440
nudges at just the right angle,
at just the right force.
484
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,760
And they do the math and they
say, hey, fifty, 100 years from
485
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,000
now, this thing's going to come
back and it's going to be right
486
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,840
in a collision course.
And that's the thing about this
487
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:02,480
whole extraterrestrial threat.
The whole point of it is to do
488
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,360
what they did with the Patriot
Act to strip away more rights,
489
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:08,120
to have more control.
So all they have to do is tell
490
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,520
us, hey, look, we have 100
years.
491
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,640
We got 150 years.
Whatever the number is, this
492
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,000
thing's going to come back and
hit us.
493
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,400
So we have to start now.
Right now, we have to adjust
494
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,720
everything in society to start
building the defense mechanism
495
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,240
for this object, right?
And like, even though we're not
496
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,320
going to be here to see it
happen in 150 years, it doesn't
497
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,720
matter.
You see what I'm saying?
498
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,880
They strip everything away.
You don't think so?
499
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,440
See Jake shaking his head over.
There, I don't think that the
500
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,600
human race would be able to come
together like that.
501
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,040
It wouldn't matter.
Well, if it's a new world, if
502
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,040
it's a global New World Order
playbook that they've been
503
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,400
working on for a long time, do
they?
504
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,200
I, I talk about this all the
time, right, bro?
505
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,720
Like they, they get everything
is all hunky Dory on the
506
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,280
International Space Station.
Everything's all hunky Dory in
507
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,080
Antarctica.
Yeah, we're about to throw nukes
508
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,560
at each other, but there's
places where we all just hang
509
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:57,920
out and get along and there's no
problem.
510
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,600
Maybe.
So.
511
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,040
Well, I mean, you got like,
look, look, even if we looked at
512
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,320
this from a religious
perspective, not everyone's
513
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:07,400
going to take the mark of the
beast.
514
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,440
There's going to be people that
are going to fight against it
515
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:10,960
just because they want to fight
against it.
516
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,640
It doesn't matter the new world
order or whatever, right?
517
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,640
So even if you could have a new
world order and say, hey,
518
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,720
everyone has to come together,
we're all going to die.
519
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,040
There's going to be people be
like, yeah, let's all freaking
520
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:25,960
die.
I don't care, you know, type
521
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,240
stuff.
There's going to be tons of
522
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,640
people like that.
You've always got rebellions
523
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,480
and, you know, contrarians and
society, but you know, like, if
524
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,640
you and I are like, no, fuck
you, right?
525
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,320
Like that's not.
Going to, but I don't think
526
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,800
we're ever going to have like
full societies or full countries
527
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,560
all come under the agreement of
we have to do something to save
528
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:47,960
humanity.
They're going to be like, Nah,
529
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,440
screw all of you.
They did it in Bretton Woods
530
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,640
when they shifted everybody on
to the US dollar as the fucking
531
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,480
global reserve currency.
Everybody agreed to that.
532
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,400
Well, almost everyone the.
Governments, everyone, that's
533
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,240
what I'm talking, right?
When I say everyone, I'm talking
534
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:05,920
about the people who run the
shit right?
535
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,840
Again, if, if, if we sit here
and we're like, no, we're not
536
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,760
going along with this.
Like that's not going to change
537
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,720
it, right?
That's not going to matter.
538
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,760
They don't care.
I.
539
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,600
Think they don't?
Care about our, if we had a
540
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:21,080
circumstance where there was a,
let's say a global push to get
541
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,040
everyone off the planet and onto
Mars because we're about to be
542
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,800
hit by an asteroid in 10 years,
I think that you would have half
543
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,880
the countries, the wealthier
countries saying, yeah, let's go
544
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,920
for it.
And the rest of them fighting
545
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400
against it because they know
they're never going to get on
546
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,040
the bus.
So they just want everything in
547
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,880
their power to destroy the
system.
548
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,200
So that's bombing the
manufacturing systems or that's,
549
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,640
you know, car bombing the, the,
the gate to get on the bus or
550
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,960
whatever it is just like, like
it would be absolute mayhem.
551
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,040
You'd have half of like half the
world that were like really well
552
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,480
off or that, you know, pulled
their head out of their asses
553
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,440
for the last, you know, 100
years.
554
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:06,280
They were like, OK, we're, we're
technologically advanced to, to
555
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,880
agree to it.
But everyone else that had their
556
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,520
heads stuck up their butts and
then covered in sand would do
557
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200
everything in their power to
destroy the system.
558
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,040
And I don't think we would make
it off the earth because.
559
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,800
Sure, but that would play right
into the whole thing, right?
560
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,840
Like the more chaos that there
is, the tighter the grip gets,
561
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,520
right?
Tighter the control gets, of
562
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,920
course, yeah.
That's the whole play, right?
563
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,440
The play.
Isn't actually are they off
564
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,040
control all the people right?
Well, the, the play again, in my
565
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,840
mind, isn't like to actually
have a solution to save us from
566
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,040
this interstellar object or
something, right?
567
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,560
Like that's not the actual play
because again, I don't think
568
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,200
that there's actually a threat.
I think the real play is just to
569
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,800
cause chaos and have everybody
think that there's a thing going
570
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,360
on.
And then if there is rebellions
571
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,280
that are happening and terrorist
acts that are happening to try
572
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:01,000
to stop the the solution, you
know, like that just plays right
573
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,080
into it.
Like, of course, yeah, we got to
574
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,040
pass some more.
Laws because of security.
575
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,560
Otherwise, we're all going to
die.
576
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,840
ISIS is, is hitting all the
manufacturing things and
577
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,880
preventing us from being able to
make strides on saving our our
578
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,760
planet.
Like we got to tighten the grip
579
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,680
more now, you know, it's like.
I don't know high yield here,
580
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,920
right?
To me, it's just a giant, it's
581
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,920
just another one of these
things, man.
582
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,400
Every time there's a massive
global crisis, that's what they
583
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,280
do.
And I, I, I hope I'm wrong, but
584
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,120
I the way that they're playing
this it.
585
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,960
Seems like this day long when it
comes to like Hurricane Katrina
586
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,840
and I have buddies that were
part of the security forces
587
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,080
going door to door collecting
people's weapons so that they
588
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,160
couldn't shoot people.
Meanwhile, there was looters
589
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,880
looting people's homes at
gunpoint, right?
590
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,840
So there was like, some sort of
former martial law, although it
591
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,720
wasn't effectively helpful for
everyone, right?
592
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,400
It's just like, you know, you
can hope for the best all day
593
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,320
long, but will it actually
happen?
594
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,360
Probably not, you know.
Was it on?
595
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,400
I want to say it was on a recent
or recent ish Sean Ryan episode
596
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:15,200
where they were talking about
the moon, the moon and how it
597
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,720
rang like a bell when it got
hit.
598
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,160
But they also brought up that
really interesting theory that I
599
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,800
don't know how much I actually
believe this, but I thought it
600
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:29,480
was interesting because it I, I
tend to like things that answer
601
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,040
multiple questions.
So the theory that was brought
602
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,280
up was I can't, I don't know the
person who brought it up because
603
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,880
it wasn't a guest.
They were talking about some
604
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,920
somebody else.
And I originally had thought it
605
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,680
was William Bramley, but it's
not.
606
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,240
I had to look it up real quick.
It's not what I thought it was.
607
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,760
But the idea was that the humans
or the what are the name of the
608
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,480
the the tall white people
looking aliens.
609
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,600
The Nordics.
The Nordics The Nordics or the
610
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Nords originated from Mars,
right?
611
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:08,400
The moon is a terraforming tool
was put into orbit to terraform
612
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,080
the planet because of the planet
Earth at the time was very
613
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,000
dangerous and it also had
gigantic reptiles.
614
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:22,840
So what they originally tried to
do was to interbreed or to
615
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,040
create hybrids of Nordics and
dinosaurs which gave birth to
616
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,920
the reptilians and then
eventually they moved the moon
617
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,360
into place to help terraform it
into something more favorable
618
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,480
for more Nordic like humans.
You guys heard about that at
619
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,800
all?
Yeah, there's a book called Who
620
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Built the Moon?
Christopher Knight and Alan
621
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Butler, they go over a lot of
that.
622
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,880
And that's something I've, I've
always talked about when we talk
623
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,840
about like simulation and stuff
like that.
624
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,600
Like that's something that
always runs through my mind
625
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,600
because, you know, you can look
through like ancient, I don't
626
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,440
know, I want to use the word
mythology, but you can look
627
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,240
through like ancient texts and
things.
628
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,640
And they're apparently,
according to some of these
629
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,800
cultures, there was a time when
there was no moon, right?
630
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,800
And then at some point there was
a moon.
631
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,639
So it's like this weird thing
that happens and you, you can,
632
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,840
there's so many like questions
like the why does the, the moon
633
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,639
ring like a bell?
Why is it perfectly tidally
634
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:21,480
locked?
We never see the backside of the
635
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,639
moon.
It's way bigger than any other
636
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:25,719
moon in comparison to the host
planet.
637
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,080
It's on a separate plane of
orbit than almost every other
638
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,600
moon that we've discovered.
You know it, it's perfectly the
639
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:39,080
right size at the right distance
to cause perfect solar eclipses,
640
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,080
right?
And lunar eclipse, like the
641
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,080
whole eclipse thing is like
super weird.
642
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,480
There's just a lot of strange
things about the moon and then
643
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,960
you can get really spooky.
I talked to Crow 7771 time on
644
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,520
the podcast and he showed a
whole bunch of videos that some
645
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,360
of them that he took with his
telescope and other people where
646
00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,240
there's this weird refresh rate
that goes across the moon as if
647
00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,400
it's like a hologram projection
of some kind.
648
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,000
There's a lot.
And then you have like, are you
649
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,720
familiar with TLP's?
No.
650
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:09,280
What are they?
Transient lunar phenomena, yes.
651
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,480
Right, I am.
You talk about the little things
652
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,280
that that scoot across the
surface.
653
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,320
There's like lights and and
weird phenomena.
654
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,240
Transient lunar phenomena.
TLP.
655
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,480
Yeah, like people often will
report like a blue light.
656
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,640
Blue lights.
I mean, some people are starting
657
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,040
to think that that the moon is
actually like it has volcanic
658
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,760
activity and stuff.
I forget the technical term for
659
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,000
it, but you know, it has like
earthquakes and volcanoes, which
660
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,880
they never really thought it,
they, they just thought it was
661
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,680
an aggregate moon.
They just thought that it was
662
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:43,000
just over billions of years, you
know, debris collected and it
663
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,080
just became this like rubble
rock that turns into the moon.
664
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:47,960
But now they're starting to
think, well, maybe it actually
665
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,000
has like geothermal activity and
volcanoes and stuff.
666
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,200
Because here on Earth, you know,
a volcano goes up and a lot of
667
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,200
times before that happens, you
have weird atmospheric phenomena
668
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,120
that happens, right?
You have like things that are
669
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,640
similar to the Northern Lights.
You have these weird
670
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,240
electromagnetic effects that
happen, you know, from
671
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,080
earthquakes and and volcanoes.
So they're starting to think
672
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,240
maybe some of that TLP is from
that kind of thing on the moon.
673
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,120
But then there's also like weird
lights that look like UFOs
674
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,560
flying around up there.
And, and this goes back to I
675
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,880
think like 500 AD was the first
time that they discovered or
676
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,520
somebody spotted TLP's transient
lunar phenomena.
677
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,760
So it's like a 1500 year thing
that's been happening on the
678
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,200
moon.
I don't know, man.
679
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,680
There's a lot of weird shit up
there.
680
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,480
I don't know how we got onto
that from Three Eye Atlas, but
681
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,960
it's weird.
Well, there's, there's a lot of
682
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,480
conspiracies with the moon.
I think, I think the moon's
683
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,640
fascinating.
I think it's a very interesting
684
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,720
topic and it's something I've
really wanted to dive into on
685
00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:51,320
multiple occasions on this show,
right.
686
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,160
Just the if you really look at a
lot of the details with it, it
687
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,480
does seem that it's, it's from
an intelligent design, the where
688
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,040
it's placed in orbit around
around the planet.
689
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:05,320
It's the only orbiting satellite
natural satellite in our solar
690
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,840
system that's perfectly placed
where it represents the exact
691
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:18,280
size of of the sun when it
passes in front of it, which is
692
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,800
the only.
One you get like perfect
693
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,560
eclipses and things like that
yeah, it's.
694
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,720
Yeah.
Then you have the whole fact
695
00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:25,560
that it's, like you said,
tidally locked, right?
696
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,160
It's always facing us and we
never see the other side.
697
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,840
We also don't ever see new
craters being formed, but yet
698
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,240
it's completely covered in
craters.
699
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,560
You also have the timing of the
orbit, which is super odd too.
700
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,040
Like you have you know your
solstices, right?
701
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Your you know, your sky clock
shit.
702
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:51,280
So like your sun hits the
solstices on specific days every
703
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,280
year, which is how they
basically broke down and
704
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,720
developed time that the way that
we look at time on earth.
705
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:02,000
But the moon cycles, they're not
like match one for one with the
706
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,640
solar cycles.
But when you look at like a long
707
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,240
time frame, like there's a
pattern there, right?
708
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:12,440
Like the moon cycles do a thing
at a very specific interval in
709
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,840
accordance with the solar
patterns and it doesn't deviate.
710
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,880
So it's not like, I don't know,
it's just super weird to me,
711
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,880
man.
Like it's probably a fucking
712
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000
mothership, dude that was put
here to terraform the Earth.
713
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,480
And maybe we're on it in a
fucking VR headset right now,
714
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,600
living life on this Earth in our
little simulated worlds,
715
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600
prepping us to get off the moon,
right?
716
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,880
That's one of my theories I've
always had like, hey, maybe we
717
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,920
are in a simulation on the
mother ship terraforming the
718
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,200
Earth.
And until we get this right as a
719
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,240
collective in the simulation and
we don't nuke each other, we
720
00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:48,920
don't get off the mother ship.
So it's just like repeating the
721
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,320
simulation until it's all good.
And then once, once we're good
722
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,800
and everything, everybody
figures it out in the
723
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,120
simulation.
They open the door and they're
724
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,280
like, OK, go, here's the Earth.
Man.
725
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,360
Be a good fucking movie.
Somebody get on that.
726
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,160
Jake, tell us how stupid we are.
Very stupid.
727
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,560
There's no way that the whole
thing is US giving getting off
728
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,320
the simulation of the moon or
off the earth.
729
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,080
If anything we are supposed to
get off the earth, which we are
730
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,040
damaging through.
Maybe not like the United States
731
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,280
or any first world country, but
most countries combined.
732
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,880
Our destruction of the earth and
the pollution that comes from
733
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,000
it.
We have to migrate to Mars or
734
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,560
something like that, but I doubt
we'll make it at least as a
735
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,960
collective species without then
destroying other species that
736
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,480
wish to destroy everyone else in
the process.
737
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:43,320
So say like any worldview that
says that, my God says I have to
738
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,760
kill everyone else that doesn't
believe in me and there is no
739
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,080
coexistence.
And those people have to go away
740
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,920
before we could ever progress to
something other than just the
741
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,440
Earth.
Although take a very, very, very
742
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,480
long time.
And I think honestly, we'll get
743
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,720
struck by a meteorite or a
asteroid before that happens.
744
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:05,280
So I mean, we could try.
We could try really hard and we
745
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,400
could.
Genocide whole cultures to get
746
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,560
to our our means of getting to
the next place.
747
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,680
But I think that in the process
of that, we'll find a a meteor
748
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,600
the size of Texas or an asteroid
coming towards Earth and won't
749
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,360
be able to do a damn thing about
it.
750
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,120
And then we'll be blown into
little bits and then, hey, there
751
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,080
we go.
I agree with that.
752
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,320
You know, I mean, there's a lot
of evidence that see, for the
753
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,520
longest time we thought that
those extinction level impact
754
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,600
events only happen like over the
time spans of millions of years,
755
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,000
right?
Like ever you ask anybody?
756
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,760
Like when was the last time in?
An.
757
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,480
Asteroid hit the Earth and it'll
be like the dinosaurs.
758
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,320
It killed the dinosaurs
65,000,000 years ago.
759
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,640
But there's a lot of evidence
now that these things happen
760
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:55,000
like relatively often, right?
I mean, I know like in the early
761
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,080
1900s you had Tunguska, right?
Object.
762
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,280
The Tunguska explosion is is
wild.
763
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,000
Right.
And that was 100 years ago and
764
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,280
there's been other like very
small impact events since then.
765
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,560
And then you can go back to like
the, the, the younger driest
766
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,440
when I did the whole younger
driest comet impact theory
767
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,720
episode, right?
Like there's a lot of people,
768
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:19,800
there's a lot of really strong
evidence to show that fragments
769
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,840
of a comet slammed into the
north the, the northern
770
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,600
hemisphere, the ice sheets that
were two miles thick.
771
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,200
And this comet broke up on entry
and multiple impacts happen
772
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,080
across the Northern hemisphere,
which essentially instantly
773
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,600
melted huge areas of this two
mile thick ice which flooded the
774
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,200
entire Earth and wiped out
everything.
775
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,280
Right.
And just a very small percentage
776
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,200
of humanity made it through and
like rebuild civilization.
777
00:41:46,240 --> 00:41:47,640
Sure, why not?
That was only 10.
778
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,760
That was only 11,000 or 12,800
years ago or whatever it is.
779
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,800
And in relative time frames,
that's not that long ago.
780
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,440
You see what I'm saying?
So I think that the fact like
781
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,400
the chance of something coming
out of the blue or out of the
782
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,600
black if you will, and just slam
it into US, it's probably
783
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,160
relatively high.
I mean, honestly, I try not to
784
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,560
be jaded, but bro, I look at the
news day in and day out, month
785
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,400
in, month out, I'm just like,
gosh, I'm on team asteroid,
786
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,840
let's go send us back to the
Stone Age.
787
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,680
I mean, come on, let's let's do
the thing.
788
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,280
Like just, I'm feeling it, man.
I make a joke all the time.
789
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Let the nukes fly brother, you
know.
790
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,400
What else to say?
You know, it's just like, all
791
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,720
right, well, yeah, pretty bad
enough.
792
00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,120
Let's go for it.
This is crazy because this
793
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,400
object I think was the size of
like a school bus and it was an
794
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,920
air burst object.
It blew up in the air and it
795
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,440
leveled like 100 square miles of
trees.
796
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Yeah, it's it's.
Isn't that crazy?
797
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,760
It's nothing that they can
confirm.
798
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,080
That's the best theory that they
have.
799
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,560
But it's it's wild.
Like the fact that we have
800
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,080
pictures of it though.
How big?
801
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,320
Was that meteorite that came
into the atmosphere over Russia
802
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,400
a couple of years back that like
blew out windows and buildings,
803
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,560
stuff like that?
It was like super.
804
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,280
It was like it.
Was like the size of a
805
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,120
basketball or something.
It was like, yeah, I think it
806
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:11,400
was.
Yeah, I think it was.
807
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,400
I think that's what they said.
It looked like it.
808
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,680
Looked like like a tank coming
through the atmosphere just like
809
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,080
on fire.
Like it was absolutely insane.
810
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:26,520
Like as far as size goes, I mean
that was oh man, I can't wait.
811
00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:29,040
I.
Can't.
812
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,720
I got a lot of stuff I need to
learn.
813
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,680
Nah, I'm good.
I can, we can wrap it up
814
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:42,200
tomorrow.
OK, Maybe I want to adopt some
815
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,520
kids and shoot a buck, but
besides that?
816
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,560
This is another thing about this
three I Atlas like it's on the
817
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,520
backside of the sun right now,
right?
818
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,560
So we can't see it.
So is it possible that when it
819
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,240
shows itself on the other side
of the sun and we start getting
820
00:43:56,240 --> 00:44:00,040
new images of it again, that
they realize that shit, this
821
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,840
thing started to break up into
multiple pieces on the other
822
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,440
side of the sun and some of
those pieces are coming towards
823
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,280
us?
I wouldn't be surprised that
824
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,160
would be Project Bluebeam.
It's just with that, without all
825
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,600
the go ahead.
What is this 3 Atlas you guys
826
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,800
keep talking about?
I joined it late, obviously. 33
827
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,200
High Atlas is an interstellar
object that they found in like
828
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,080
June or July.
They just spotted this thing
829
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,240
July.
It was It was the weekend of UFO
830
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,360
Days.
It was found by the Atlas
831
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,560
research team and it's the third
interstellar object.
832
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,040
So if I third interstellar,
Atlas is the team that found it.
833
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,360
So it's just a the big ass rock
the size of Manhattan apparently
834
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:46,040
that's flying through the solar
system right now from
835
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,400
interstellar space.
And it had a close ish flyby of
836
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,080
Mars at the beginning of
October.
837
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,200
They were supposed to turn all
the cameras to it and take
838
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,480
pictures and all that, which is
what I was talking about
839
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,000
earlier.
Sure, there's the fucking
840
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,560
pictures.
And now it's like behind the sun
841
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,760
from our perspective.
So we nobody can see it right
842
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,040
now, OK.
And we're not going to see it
843
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,840
again until the end of December,
December 25th, I think like
844
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,880
literally on Christmas is when
it's supposed to show itself
845
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,400
again.
Yeah.
846
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,680
In recent times, there's been
only three since we've had the
847
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,920
technology to track these large
interstellar objects that that
848
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,200
zoom through our our our solar
system.
849
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,000
When a MUA MUA came out in or
when they discovered a MUA MUA
850
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:37,000
in 2017, which was AR1I, a MUA
MUA was it was it's official
851
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,720
name.
Everyone was talking about how
852
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:41,200
this could be an alien
spacecraft, right?
853
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,080
It was mostly to do with it's
elongated shape and then it's
854
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,920
tumbling motion through through
the system.
855
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,160
It made an adjusted like a
correction in its trajectory as
856
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,760
well from like from the day that
they spotted it and then like a
857
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,560
couple months later they were
like, wait a minute, it like
858
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,320
turned like it didn't unnatural
adjustment.
859
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,320
Well, sure.
Here's, here's the thing, right,
860
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,400
is that Atlas has done this and
Borisov, which is the second
861
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,480
one, I Borisov, which was
founded in 2019, also did this.
862
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,960
They're starting to think now
that there could be some random
863
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,280
gravitational force out there,
whether it be in the orc cloud
864
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,960
or whatever that's causing this,
this sort of emotion.
865
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,560
Now there's also theories that
there are planet sized bodies
866
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,000
out there that we just can't
see.
867
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,720
Rogue planets I would.
Wonder how strong the
868
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:33,320
gravitational pull of certain
planets, certain astral bodies
869
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:39,960
or black holes would be in order
to change the directory of a
870
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:43,880
body in motion in space.
Right, so that would be my
871
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:45,840
thought.
It wouldn't be that necessarily.
872
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,920
It was a somehow a alien craft
tumbling uncontrollably until it
873
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,600
changes direction suddenly.
But more likely that it's an
874
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,360
astral body that through
gravitational pull changes
875
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,680
directions.
But then you'd have to wonder
876
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:07,440
how strong can a gravitational
pull be 1000 miles away or
877
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,600
whatever.
Or maybe it's a black hole or a
878
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,480
small black hole that we can't
even see that just happens to
879
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,560
kind of be in the trajectory.
So when it's coming around, it
880
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,080
just zips past versus continuing
past, right?
881
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,680
We're just kind of loops around
it, but we can't see it because
882
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,160
we don't have the lenses or
technology to see such things.
883
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,760
The best explanation I heard
about the change in trajectory
884
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,720
is off gassing.
Like maybe there's something
885
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:35,640
where it's off gassing, you
know, because it's getting
886
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,200
closer to the sun, which is what
comets do is why you see like
887
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,320
the tail of the comics.
It's like the shit's burning up
888
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,880
and I whatever, but so it could
be, yeah, I know what you're
889
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,120
going to say.
It could be some form of off
890
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,280
gassing.
But the weird thing about it is
891
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,440
that little cometary cometary
tail, whatever the fuck word is
892
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,040
the tail of this comet or this
object is facing the sun.
893
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:58,320
It's.
Facing the fucking.
894
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,360
It's not facing away from the
sun.
895
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Super, super odd man.
So all the debris and everything
896
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,080
is actually, it's not even in
front of it.
897
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,240
It's not in the the the trail of
motion or is it being trailed by
898
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,120
motion?
It's pointing towards the sun,
899
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:17,680
which is weird, right?
So it, when we discovered that
900
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,400
this light or the the tail, we
originally thought that this was
901
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:26,760
a light, that this could have
been like a luminary object
902
00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:31,920
creating its own light, right?
Think of a headlight beams at
903
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,200
night, right?
So you get that that coning
904
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,520
effect and it would look similar
to a tail of a comet.
905
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,360
That's what that's what people
were thinking because it wasn't
906
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:45,000
trailing the comment like a
typical comet.
907
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,680
It was facing the sun.
But that that cone is also
908
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,040
changed directions as well.
So there's there's a lot of
909
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,960
really, really weird shit.
Now, the off gassing thing is
910
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,320
something else that I heard too,
but I feel like we're applying a
911
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,760
very human concept to an unhuman
object, right?
912
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,560
Meaning that honestly, I think
that the best bet is that this
913
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,400
is just a little crock, right?
And could it be off gassing?
914
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,040
Yes.
But now that we're finding that
915
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,760
it's metallic, right?
The only way that we would get
916
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,960
off gassing from a metallic
object is if it's super hot.
917
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,680
And we know it's not, We know
it's super cold.
918
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,480
So I don't necessarily think
it's off gassing because that's
919
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:30,800
how we move in space.
We use little bursts of air to
920
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,600
move ourselves in space.
Well, it's kind of off gassing
921
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,000
this nickel, whatever it is
this, this.
922
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,960
It's.
What about what about two
923
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,120
dissimilar metals together?
I mean, I know they cause
924
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,200
corrosion, but they also cause a
sort of gap is.
925
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,520
It is a chemical reaction, yes,
you're on the right.
926
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,880
You're on the right path there,
right.
927
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:57,320
So thermal couples are created
using 2 dissimilar metals and
928
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,120
you get a chemical reaction
between the two metals.
929
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,840
And often times you get spots of
corrosion when 2 dissimilar
930
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,160
metals are touching each other,
right?
931
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:10,440
So you have to have basically
that, that there's a
932
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,600
relationship between metals that
work well together for
933
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,880
thermocoupling reasons.
The likeliness that we're seeing
934
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,160
that in nature, probably slim to
none.
935
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,880
And then we also found that it's
an alloy, so it's already a
936
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,760
mixture of metals.
So does that necessarily mean
937
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,240
that there could be a thermal
coupling effect?
938
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:35,640
It could be right, But the
likeliness is no, because as far
939
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:40,000
as we could, our best
understanding of three eye Atlas
940
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:45,360
is that it actually entered our
solar system sometime thousands
941
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,800
of years ago.
So this thing would be off
942
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,680
gassing or diffusing itself for
thousands of years.
943
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,560
It would have had to have been
incredibly massive because this
944
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:02,920
the it's not quite right.
It's not, it's not, it's not
945
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,000
nuclear fusion that's happening.
It's a slower process, but still
946
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:12,720
at that rate I don't know.
I mean yeah, I mean I've seen a
947
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:18,480
fence like a wrought iron fence
go to decay and rust and fall
948
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,920
apart in a matter of like 5
years.
949
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:24,280
I mean, if this thing was off
gassing cause of dissimilar
950
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,880
metals causing it to create a
chemical reaction.
951
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:31,080
I mean, this thing would have
had to have been massive to the
952
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,200
point of probably having its own
gravitational pull.
953
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:38,600
But then like to the point where
it would actually hit us.
954
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,960
It probably would be the size of
like, you know, a baseball or
955
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,440
something.
Like if it was creating that
956
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:50,000
much gas to defer its trajectory
right from where it was going
957
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,160
because of the gases shooting
off of it or whatever, be
958
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,480
ridiculous.
Just go back to what Jeff was
959
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,560
talking about, how it's has this
this tail of nickel out alloy,
960
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:05,640
right?
It's not the way comments are,
961
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,080
right?
It's a debris field that's
962
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,200
around it and it's usually
locked in by its gravitational
963
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,520
force.
So any object in a vacuum such
964
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:18,400
as space will apply
gravitational force onto other
965
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,720
objects depending on its its
density and mass.
966
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:27,240
So as these little chunks break
off of it, it kind of just stays
967
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,560
around.
It's not, it's not a constant
968
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,400
off gassing of material.
We're not creating more and more
969
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,760
of a cloud.
These little bits and pieces
970
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:42,000
fall off of it by micro impacts
from smaller pieces of debris
971
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,000
that hit it during its travels.
So let's say like a a a rock the
972
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,040
size of a baseball hits this
thing the size of Manhattan.
973
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:54,360
It will hit break off a chunk of
three I Atlas itself, and then
974
00:52:54,360 --> 00:53:01,200
it it itself would shatter into
a ton of tinier pieces and be
975
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:06,680
basically trapped forever or in
in like a atmosphere, sort of,
976
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,280
if you will, of rock and debris
around this object.
977
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:16,600
The weird thing about that is
that that debris field is
978
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,240
creating a tail in a direction
that doesn't correlate with its
979
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:23,320
motion.
That's the real odd thing about
980
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:24,680
it.
It's not that it's not it's
981
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:30,320
continuously off gassing.
You know, I, I, I don't, I don't
982
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,880
think that's, that's necessarily
I think it in order to make
983
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,240
those kind of moves, it would
have to have come across an
984
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:40,240
unseen gravitational body.
And to answer kind of what Jake
985
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:44,560
was saying, how much influence
or distance there needs to be in
986
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,320
order for influence and what
the, what's the ratio there?
987
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,520
It doesn't have to be much.
It really doesn't.
988
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,080
You can hit something half its
size and all of a sudden you
989
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,280
know this we know three I Atlas
isn't a perfect circle.
990
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,920
It's more of an elongated tag,
if you will.
991
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,880
So if it gets hit by a much
smaller object about half its
992
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:09,320
size in the right spot, it will
deflect slightly.
993
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,400
And that's kind of what we see,
right?
994
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,520
It's not something where it's
taking a sharp 90° turn.
995
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:20,440
It's making a half a degree or a
degree pivot if you will.
996
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:26,720
Which would be a ridiculous
concept for a a ship if you
997
00:54:26,720 --> 00:54:31,200
meant to go somewhere getting
bounced around Willy nilly.
998
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,120
I mean, shoot, you might get
deflected back the way you came
999
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:37,960
if that was the trajectory or
that was the the goal, right.
1000
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,560
So I'd, I, I would highly doubt
that this was anything of
1001
00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,040
intelligent design.
Well, I actually, I actually
1002
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:49,640
think ship, I mean, maybe being
an astral body being of
1003
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,160
intelligent design.
But yeah.
1004
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,600
I think that there's a pretty
good chance.
1005
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,000
I, I'm not going to say that
it's, it's like a perfect 5050
1006
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,440
chance or even 8020, but I think
that there is a, a chance that
1007
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,960
this thing is not just a natural
object.
1008
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,760
I just think that we have to,
you know, focus on the, the
1009
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,560
right things, the really weird
stuff off gassing isn't
1010
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,440
something that would necessarily
be weird.
1011
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,120
The fact that its tail is facing
the wrong way, that's extremely
1012
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:25,280
weird.
If it made a correction right,
1013
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,240
that was much more than one 2-3
degrees.
1014
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,920
I mean, even 3° is a pretty
drastic correction, something
1015
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:39,240
where gravitational influence
isn't going to change it or an
1016
00:55:39,240 --> 00:55:42,640
impact is going to change it.
Like if we see a sudden, you
1017
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:48,000
know, 10° to 90° freaking change
all of a sudden, then that's a
1018
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,280
glaring red flag.
Well.
1019
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,920
But how would you describe that
then?
1020
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,640
That the tails facing the wrong
way because it's trying to slow
1021
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,920
down but it can't because it's
going too fast.
1022
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:58,800
I have no idea.
It's trying to slow down.
1023
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,280
It's on the perfect see, there's
the hot another odd thing is
1024
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,800
that all the other interstellar
objects, they came in on a
1025
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:09,680
different trajectory like a
different plane than this one,
1026
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,560
right?
And it's coming in an opposite
1027
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,720
direction, right?
So if you notice, like on this
1028
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,640
little image that I got here,
this little gift that's playing,
1029
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:21,760
all the bodies that are orbiting
the sun are orbiting in a
1030
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,400
counterclockwise motion from
this perspective, right?
1031
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,880
This object is orbiting at a
clockwise motion, which is odd,
1032
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,880
right?
It's also on the same plane as
1033
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,120
all the planets, which is also
odd.
1034
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:39,520
It's literally going to be
directly behind the sun in a few
1035
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,960
days.
From our perspective, every
1036
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:45,680
other interstellar object was on
a such a different plane of
1037
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:48,800
entry that it was never like
directly behind the sun.
1038
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:53,680
You see what I'm saying?
So to me this is just like, it's
1039
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,080
super weird, man.
Like I don't know, I don't, I'm
1040
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,240
trying to like stay away from
the, the, it's supernatural.
1041
00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:03,000
It could be something like that,
man.
1042
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:06,200
I don't really know, dude.
Like I, it's, there's just a lot
1043
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,480
of weird anomalies with this
that it's, it's tripping me up
1044
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,240
to the point to where, like,
again, I don't think the
1045
00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:15,320
information we get from space
agencies is, is even half true.
1046
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:18,240
So like it makes me wonder like,
is this even happening?
1047
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,600
Like is even actually happening
or are they just manufacturing
1048
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,560
this whole thing?
You know manufacturing hysteria,
1049
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,040
right?
Yeah, pretty much.
1050
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,080
Don't look up movie.
Yeah, exactly.
1051
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,440
I literally said that earlier.
Yeah, he did.
1052
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,040
I, I had to rewatch that.
I made my wife watch it.
1053
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,200
Watch that with me.
It's.
1054
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,680
Funny, isn't it?
It's hilarious.
1055
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,080
Shut up, calm down.
There's no nothing to worry.
1056
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,920
Everyone's screaming like don't
look up, don't look up, and then
1057
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,000
somebody go looks up and he's
like, what the fuck is that?
1058
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,600
They're lying.
To us, right?
1059
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,920
Yeah, I don't know.
It's a weird thing, man.
1060
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:59,880
Like, it's a weird thing for
sure.
1061
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,320
It's definitely, but you know,
even somebody like me that's
1062
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,680
like super skeptical about the
information coming out, even I'm
1063
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,080
a little bit like, oh shit, like
what the fuck's going on?
1064
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:12,560
So I can only imagine people who
are just like totally, 100% like
1065
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,360
those people that have NASA
stickers on their car.
1066
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,480
Like they're probably like, Oh
my God.
1067
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,480
Yes, I love my sticker that says
lies on it.
1068
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,560
I got my my toolbox and I work
on airplanes.
1069
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,920
It's great.
Yeah, then.
1070
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,440
Skeeter is blown away that you
watch the movie, Jeremy.
1071
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:32,880
He Yeah, I did.
Yeah, I fell asleep, but.
1072
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,560
No way.
Yeah, yeah, I fall asleep in
1073
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,320
movies.
Typical.
1074
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,280
But you know, like, that's just
another example of like
1075
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:44,880
predictive programming in my
opinion.
1076
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,520
That movie is like full of that
kind of stuff.
1077
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,080
And I know it's like a comedy
movie, so they're probably
1078
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:50,760
poking fun at that idea to begin
with.
1079
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,160
But you know, you got like the
social media guy in there that
1080
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,160
just knows like when you're
going to take a shit, like he's
1081
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,880
predicting when people are going
to die.
1082
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,040
Like, you know, like they're
just with the algorithms.
1083
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,080
So that's all in there.
You know, the the the
1084
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,160
extraterrestrial threat.
And I don't mean aliens, but
1085
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,040
just the object, right?
Like to me, this is all just
1086
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,200
seating.
Like it's predictive
1087
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,080
programming.
Dude, I had a thought the other
1088
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,440
day.
That's the first.
1089
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,600
Scary, right?
And it was it was funny because
1090
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,560
it was it was during while we
were watching that movie.
1091
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,560
And I was thinking because my
son right now, my youngest is,
1092
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,440
you know, he's a big fan of the
new Disney movie that came out.
1093
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,440
Elio, have you guys seen it yet?
You guys know anything about it?
1094
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,760
No.
No, I watched kidding movies.
1095
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:42,480
So Elio is about a a giant craft
out in space full of alien
1096
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:46,200
beings that come to Earth
looking for this kid that
1097
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,440
signaled them with a ham radio.
Or actually, it was a different
1098
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:53,960
kind of radios at his aunt's.
Military base, second movie of
1099
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,240
Wally.
No, no, it's, it's, it's not,
1100
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,880
it's, but it, it's strange that
it just came out like it's brand
1101
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:05,320
new and it's almost like
they're, they're getting the
1102
01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:10,840
younger generations ready for.
Alien contact or the the
1103
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:16,800
possibility with one year quotes
of alien contact and especially
1104
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,800
in the, in the way that it's
presented as you know, just as
1105
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,200
this massive community coming to
Earth.
1106
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:26,640
It's there's some there's some
parallels there.
1107
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:30,840
It's pretty, pretty crazy.
Well, if you watch any other
1108
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:32,600
movies, Jeremy, you would know
that they've been doing this
1109
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:36,320
with movies for like 50 years.
I just think it's, I just think
1110
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,560
it's crazy that they're they're
going as far as to putting it
1111
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:43,840
into a kids movie that.
Doesn't surprise me, they put a
1112
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,520
lot of weird shit in kids movies
these days.
1113
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,520
It didn't do well in the box
office skater dude.
1114
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,000
I like that movie.
That movie is cool, but I also
1115
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,760
just like aliens.
Like that guy, right?
1116
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,440
Dear weird shit, who knows, I
guess we'll find out in a couple
1117
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,880
of months when this thing peeks
his head around the sun.
1118
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,600
If it peeks his head around the
sun, they'll come out with the
1119
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,720
next little piece of like, oh
shit, by the way.
1120
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,480
That's that's Jeffrey's I'm
tired voice.
1121
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,520
Yeah, I am tired.
I'm tired too.
1122
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,920
It's a it's a staple.
I, I I know it.
1123
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:17,560
Well, you know, but habits A
habits.
1124
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,000
If it doesn't, it doesn't.
That's Jeremy or that's Jeff,
1125
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,520
and he's tired.
I'll care about this tomorrow
1126
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,680
morning.
No, I won't.
1127
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:26,680
I'll be.
Do I still?
1128
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,400
Go for the work tomorrow.
You got 10 seconds left to live.
1129
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,520
I'll deal with this tomorrow.
I'm getting good.
1130
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,920
We got interstellar threat from
outer space and I still got to
1131
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,960
get up for work tomorrow, so I'm
tired.
1132
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,320
Yeah, just let the nukes fly.
Fuck yeah.
1133
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,000
I'm tired.
My wife gave me cookies and milk
1134
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,240
and I'm exhausted.
I didn't have any cookies today.
1135
01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,880
She didn't make me any cookies.
Crystal Divorcer.
1136
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,200
She was out of town and then.
We were busy.
1137
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,360
Yesterday we did go look at RV's
today.
1138
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:55,560
Divorcer.
There was no time for more.
1139
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,080
So, Crystal, you're spoiling
him.
1140
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,920
Making him cupcakes to All
right, keep around for a little
1141
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,160
bit.
Until the cupcakes are done.
1142
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,240
All right, Jake.
Welcome back, buddy.
1143
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:10,920
Thanks dude, appreciate it.
Are you back for good this time?
1144
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,400
Yeah, I'm back for good this
time.
1145
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,120
Are you sure?
Yeah, I had a long hard thought
1146
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,160
and I talked to Whitney about
it.
1147
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,760
I talked to my family about it.
I said if I come back, it can't
1148
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,120
because I'm back for a little
bit like 6 months.
1149
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:25,880
And I say, all right, so screw
you guys.
1150
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,040
I'm, I'm out again.
If I'm going to be back, I'm
1151
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,280
going to be back.
And I decided that I'm going to
1152
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:32,400
be back.
So here I am.
1153
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:39,000
And I spent a good month more,
more month and a half maybe
1154
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,880
working on myself, working on my
sobriety and not being such a, a
1155
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:47,480
drunk.
And yeah, I, I feel better.
1156
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,600
I feel more ready to do the
thing and take on challenges as
1157
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,800
well as kind of getting into a
routine of what's important to
1158
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,360
me.
And certainly this podcast is,
1159
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,240
but it's not the most important
thing to me.
1160
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:04,040
But putting that into a place
where I could have space for it,
1161
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,040
but it wasn't taking up space
for other things, I suppose is a
1162
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:11,680
good way to put it.
I do like the new format where
1163
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:15,360
it's mostly interviews because
that takes away a lot of that
1164
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:19,400
where it's not, you know, OK, I
need to dedicate 3 weeks to a, a
1165
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,520
project, you know, a, a write up
like I'm in college, but I'm
1166
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,600
not, you know, type stuff.
So that's really helpful.
1167
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,640
But yeah, I'm here to do the
things.
1168
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,960
So thanks for having me.
I'm glad your guys's guest
1169
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:36,120
tonight cancelled or fell apart.
I suppose.
1170
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,080
Her had bad connections.
So yeah, here I am.
1171
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,560
Well, I'm glad you're back, so
now I don't have to hold up the
1172
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,200
fucking show every fucking week.
Jesus.
1173
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,720
And Yeah, yeah.
And I also had to to take some
1174
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,800
time to realize what the show
is, right.
1175
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,200
So like the last few episodes
that me and Jeremy were on
1176
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,080
together, I was pretty
combative.
1177
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:02,720
And if this was a like a Turning
point USA type show, the
1178
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,000
combative nature of my, you
know, holding down my beliefs
1179
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,040
and stuff like that would have
been probably logical and, and
1180
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:13,240
allowed and, and accepted.
But this is a show for, you
1181
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,920
know, interfering people and
having people on to to share
1182
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:18,480
their own ideas and experiences
and things like that.
1183
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,560
So I can't guarantee for you,
Jeff, that I'm going to be, you
1184
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,480
know, holding down the Fort as
far as being like, you know,
1185
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,840
pushing back against crazies and
things like that because I'm
1186
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:31,080
trying to balance everything
out.
1187
01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:34,840
But I can guarantee that I will
have my own opinion.
1188
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,560
And you won't be left alone to
deal with Jeremy by yourself.
1189
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:42,280
So yeah.
That's adorable.
1190
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,960
I got a crypted walking over all
my stuff.
1191
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:50,480
Damn skinwalker over there.
Yeah, Thanks for having me,
1192
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,720
guys.
Yeah, hopefully we we all die in
1193
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,000
a ashtray.
That's that's my thing.
1194
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,240
We'll see.
And he just came back and we're
1195
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,720
dead.
Yeah, I I hope so.
1196
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,440
I hope we all die together.
One big half of family like
1197
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:12,200
this, blown apart into little
bits, into the abyss.
1198
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,720
Yeah.
Yeah.
1199
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,320
Jeffrey, take us home, man.
You do.
1200
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:21,880
It thanks for watching.
All right, never mind.
1201
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,800
I'll do it.
All right, Well, that has been
1202
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,120
another episode of the Infinite
Rabbit Hole podcast.
1203
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,840
Jake, welcome back, man.
Good to have you, Jeffrey.
1204
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:33,760
I'm happy that you're awake
right now, but I'm also happy
1205
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,120
that you're going to be able to
go nights.
1206
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,440
That's cool.
Until next time, travelers, next
1207
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,080
week we actually have a really
cool episode.
1208
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,320
So see you next week.
It's going to be great.
1209
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,240
I can't wait, Jake.
I'll catch you up.
1210
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:52,640
And until next time, travelers,
we'll see you in the next fork
1211
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:54,400
in the path of the infinite
rabbit hole.
1212
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,560
Happy Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
1213
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,080
Bye bye.