247. Coco Sianne Ryder 2: Magic & Mind-Control

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Imagine that this line here in
the past the

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timeline commute into this
tangent, creating an alternate

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1985 alternate.
You need an Einstein reality for

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everyone else.
Welcome back to the Infinite

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Rabbit Hole.
Last time we pulled a thread

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with our guest Coco CN Ryder,
and what we uncovered was more

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chilling than we could ever
predict it.

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That episode, Hidden Shadows of
a Secret World, posed a sliver

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of the truth behind the occult
practices, mind control, and

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celebrity lineage with the
deepest, darkest corners of the

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entertainment system.
The reaction was seismic.

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Since then, Coco has continued
her mission to expose this

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systematic darkness, appearing
on platforms like the Gareth Ike

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Show to connect her personal
trauma to the larger

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architecture of global control,
censorship, and powerful elites.

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Tonight, we're going to dive
into the audience questions you,

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the listeners have been
demanding answers to get ready

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to go deeper than ever before.
Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit

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Hole and welcome back Coco.
How you doing today?

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Hello, very good.
Thank you.

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Good, good.
So you have been busy, very

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busy.
Well at least with with Gareth.

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Like Gareth, Like how was that
experience?

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I don't know.
It's, you know, I get so nervous

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around these things that I kind
of go into an autopilot mode and

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I just just just go for it, try
not to think about it too much.

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I just imagining what Jeff would
say to that Jeff.

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Jeff loves that he he calls it
the flow state and he it's

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what's what he claims he he
performs the best in.

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So but Gareth height that is a
humongous platform and I know

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that our numbers ticked quite
quite well after your episode

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came out on on his show.
What was the overall response by

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the public to that?
Show it from your point of view.

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A lot of people seem to really
like the way that I express

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myself.
They said that the way that I

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spoke was eloquent and that I
had a sort of balanced point of

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view on all of these very
difficult topics.

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So that's that was what I I got
mostly from the comment.

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Yeah, that's pretty much what
the feedback I had too from our

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show.
A lot of people sending a lot of

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respectful comments, a lot of
lot of messages from people

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sending me questions to ask you
for a follow up episode because

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we had discussed at the end of
our last episode that you would

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come back on and talk to us.
Unfortunately, today it's just

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me.
Jeff had something pop up pretty

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much last minute so he is not
able to make this, but I've got

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a ton of questions to go through
that we can easily fill up all

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this time with.
So, and it all comes from from

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either the comment section on
some of our platforms, with most

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of them actually coming from
private direct messages from

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people who have listened to
either our episode with you or

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Gareth's episode with you.
There's a lot of people that

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even made mention in their
messages to me that they haven't

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listened to our episode yet at
this time, but that you were

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absolutely amazing on Gareth's
episode and they had questions

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to for me to ask you.
I'm guessing that they they just

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had a feeling that you'd be
coming on this show again before

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going back on Garrett's, which I
would assume you would.

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I watched that episode myself
and it was phenomenal.

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You did great.
You did.

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Thank you.
You're, you're going to be a

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natural podcaster.
So actually before we get on

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that or before we get on to some
of the questions, let's talk

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about tracing the circle.
How's that journey going for

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you?
Well, I actually wrote up the

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first episode months ago when I
was thinking about writing a

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book and and then I kind of turn
it into this whole doing a

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podcast thing because I decided
to just come out with my story

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through this platform.
So I might as well do it in that

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way.
And it's a good way to reach

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people.
But finished writing it like

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last week and I'd like to being
more spontaneous, but the

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writing kind of helps me to, to
get into this whole new journey.

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And the podcast itself is more
about kind of positive growth

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and self exploration and trying
to inspire and and motivate

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people.
So I'm talking less about the

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kind of stuff that I'll talk
about in interviews with other

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people because I don't want to
make that dark stuff like my,

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the center of my life, you know,
I want to make this simple of my

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life something that that
inspires goodness, you know, And

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it's a good thing to expose the,
the dark things that I'm talking

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about, but it shouldn't
necessarily be the center of my

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focus, you know?
Yeah, we're going to, we're

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going to kind of dive into a
little bit of dark stuff tonight

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too.
A lot of questions, lot of

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questions from people that are
very interested in some of this

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darker stuff.
And by all means, if, if I ask

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you a question tonight that
you're not comfortable

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answering, which some of these
are going to, you know, they're

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going to, they're going to dig
pretty deep, Just let me know

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and, and we'll move on to the
next one.

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I did when I first started
gathering these questions after

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our first episode, I would ask
everybody, hey, if I use your

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question on the show, would you
like me to attach your name to

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it or anything like that?
And overwhelmingly people said

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no.
So I, I left all of this without

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any names attached to it.
That way I can I can ask your

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questions and people can still
remain anonymous with the

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questions.
There were one or two of them I

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pulled out of Gareth Ikes
comment section and I'll I'll

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notate which one of those are if
I end up reading them off

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tonight just so that and we can
send people to the right place.

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But like I said, most of these
are from my own DMS or comment

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section on our episode together.
Anything that you got before we

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move into the questions?
No, I just.

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Well, yes, I do have a a list
here of things that I'd like to

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go through.
Perfect.

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About the black magic and the
magic and the various things

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that go on there.
But we have plenty of time to go

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through all of that start to
finish.

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Take like an hour.
So I'm ready now to go through

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all of these questions
answering, you know, So.

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Yeah.
Well, good, good.

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All right.
So one of them, I've already

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kind of asked the first Part 2,
so I'll just read the question

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in full.
And then the second part is

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really where the question will
be, because the first part I've

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already pretty much asked, like
I said.

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But how has the public response
been since your first

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appearance?
We've talked about that.

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And have you received any
validation or any pushback on

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the claims you made about the
hidden shadows you discussed?

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Not really.
The only criticism that I saw

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come up a couple of times was
that I was a bit vague and that

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I was not really saying.
I was saying a lot, but not

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really saying anything, which is
perfectly fine.

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I think it was more to do with
the nature of the questions

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being asked that I was happy to
answer and the style of

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interview.
Because he's a he was a radio

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host.
They have a very particular way

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of going about things, and I
think he understood that in that

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interview he was sort of
gathering information so that

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maybe for another interview he
would have more questions to

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ask.
So that's the only criticism

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that I really got from that.
We had a, we had a few comments

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that aligned pretty close with
that right?

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The the vagueness even in our
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And I felt like you were way
more open on our show, but.

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Yeah.
A little bit right, But I, you

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know, I would just like to
remind people, you know, you got

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to put yourself in her place,
right?

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This is the first.
Time coming.

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Out about this.
Stuff.

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So I have a good, I have
something to say about about

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that People want details of
events.

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They want me to recollect
certain events and name names

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and say this is where that
happened and this is the date.

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And while I can do that, and I'm
sure in some instances I will do

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that, that's not necessary.
I don't need to do that.

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That's not what I'm here for.
I'm trying to convey for 112

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years of experience of fighting
against the Dark Network, which

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is 12 years.
That's a long time.

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You learn a lot.
So just repeating events,

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regurgitating events, that's
useless when I have gathered so

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much valuable insight into how
it works.

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That's where the valuable
information is.

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And then of course, I have my
entire life, 31 years of

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experience of being born into
this particular world.

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What's more valuable is the
things that I've learned, not

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repeating things that have
happened.

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So I'll just say that one.
No, it's a.

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It's a good point.
It really is.

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It's not what, what would the, I
guess my follow up question to

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anybody leaving those kind of
comments would be what would

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they do with that information
anyways?

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I don't, I don't see what it
what, what it would do.

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It's the fact that we have
somebody on record putting pen

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to paper and saying this is
happening.

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I think that's in my point of
view more important, right.

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We have somebody that's that's
taking a step forward.

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And.
Being brave about it.

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All right.
So the second question that I

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had here, so you spoke about
mind control within the

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entertainment industry.
Can you elaborate on what you

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meant by lineage of celebrity?
And I guess a follow up part,

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and this is strictly mine here.
This is something I'm curious

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about.
Do you believe that it was your

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lineage that made you a target
for this particularly?

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Well, this is interesting
because actually it's the very

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first thing that I wrote down on
mine.

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This is to talk about how do
they select individuals.

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So there's multiple reasons and
it really depends on what kind

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of interest they have in you.
It is to do.

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It can be to do with bloodline
and lineage.

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In my case, I think it's
probably less to do with

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bloodline, though there might be
something there that I'm not

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really aware of and more to do
with, you know, when I say less

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to do with bloodline, I'm
talking about the elite

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bloodlines.
So that's a whole other thing.

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But the fact that my grandfather
is Donovan, my father is Sean

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Ryder, there is obviously
something unique and special

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about my family to have all of
this energy, all of this

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creative energy, and all of
these individuals that have had

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a voice on the world stage in
some way or another.

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And the fact that my great
grandfather was a Freemason

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might have something to do with
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So the fact that all of that is
there, I'm exposed, right?

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So I'm born into this world
where there are occultists,

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there is military and there is
intelligence involved and they

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notice children that have been
born.

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Now sometimes you get lower
level individuals who see

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certain children that have been
born and they go this, this

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could be a good cash cow just
because of who their their

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parents are.
But then you have much more

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interesting side, which is you
have people who are into

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astrology and they can tell just
by your birth chart or even your

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birth date or even your life
path number in numerology that

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you are a powerful individual
and can have a very successful

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future in certain things.
And they can figure out how you

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might be useful.
And then you have people who are

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literally just able to see your
energy, see your spark.

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They can look at you and they
just know this one is special,

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this one is useful.
And obviously there are

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different purposes.
There are different kinds of

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usefulness.
There are usefulness in the

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sense of just harvesting energy,
and then there's usefulness in

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the sense of we can put this
person into the entertainment

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sphere or the political sphere
and we can groom them and train

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them for a particular career
path.

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And that happens in military as
well, politics and even in the

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criminal world in different
ways.

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So the fact that I'm born into
this world means that I'm

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surrounded by people who are
paying attention to these

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things.
I'm surrounded by individuals

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who have already this kind of
lifestyle, this kind of mindset,

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you know?
So, all right, let's move, let's

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move into one because I think, I
feel like this is, it's not a

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direct segue, but it's a, it's a
pretty good one.

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This is probably the most asked
question that I got.

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And this is one that I, I also
grabbed from Gareth's comment

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section, but also from my
comment section, also from

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multiple DMS.
What's next?

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So after revealing such profound
secrets, right?

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What is your personal focus now?
What are your next steps in this

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whole endeavor?
Well, I've only just begun to

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reveal how the magic works and
the mind control works, and then

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there's a technological aspect
that I'll get to not in this

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interview fully.
Looks like we've lost her.

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In another line, there's a lot
of very important thing the.

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Government doesn't want us.
Talking about because it doesn't

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just concern me, it concerns.
Bono.

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The human race.
Give her a second to come back

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on.
Because as I said.

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On the previous that we had
tests people on YouTube.

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That's cool.
We don't get a ton.

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Of everything they do to their.
Targets especially done so shout

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out to the people on YouTube.
So all of the.

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Appreciate you checking in.
Warfare that I've.

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If you guys have questions for
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Happening send them.
Into.

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The comments.
Section has a.

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Particular long term purpose, so
I would like.

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She'll be right back, hopefully.
Learn how to reveal to the best

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of my ability.
Somebody's in the comment

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section.
Let me know if you're still

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getting the stream.
And these methods and these

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practices, and that's something
that's going to take a while for

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me to, to get good at 1:00
because I, I'm not used to

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talking about this stuff.
It's like, you know?

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Maybe not.
Imagine not being able to speak

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your whole life and then
suddenly you have to learn how

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to speak.
You know, it's, I'm not used to

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talking about this stuff.
I've hardly even write about it

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in my own journals.
So going to try my very best to

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articulate the magic and the
mind control.

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That's very important.
But I guess I said it before

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that my goal is to try and
inspire and and move people and

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to help.
People shift.

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Into a service.
Of you that are.

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Perspective of life that helps
them transcend fear and division

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and polarization to be able to
be more at peace with things so

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that you can more effectively.
Act.

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In the world around you, because
so many people are thinking and

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acting and behaving from a place
of fear and panic because of

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everything that's going on in
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And it's not, it's not helpful.
In order for us to make the most

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effective change, we have to 1st
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And I'm learning how to do that
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And I hope that on my journey
and learning how to do that, I

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can share it with others.
Almost the entirety of my

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listeners on Twitch looks like
everybody wants to hear from.

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Sorry, anybody who's who's still
watching on YouTube.

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Here she comes, she's coming in.
There she is.

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I'm not sure.
Well, if you don't mind, we

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could just jump right back to
the beginning of that that

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question.
You asked me a question about my

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my goal.
So was that just a quick, was

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that a technical issue on on
your end or?

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No idea.
No.

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Looks like we're we're talking
about things people don't want

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us talking about.
Hopefully it was just a

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technical problem.
Let's see, I got I did get

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somebody while you while you
were away there for a second

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saying that I should introduce
you to Paul from Understanding

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conspiracy.
I'm guessing it's a podcast.

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So definitely look into that.
See if.

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It's a.
Route you want to go down?

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Understanding conspiracy.
Understanding conspiracy.

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Yep.
All right.

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So the question that I had for
you was see, yes, what, what's

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the next steps in all of this?
What are you, where are you

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going with with the next phase
of of this kind of stepping out

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into the lime way?
OK, I did have a very very good

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answer.
I hope I can repeat it.

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Sorry.
So the next step is obviously to

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go into a lot more detail about
the mind control and the magic,

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because there is so much there.
I'm definitely not answering it

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as best as I did last time.
Yeah.

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The next step is to, to the best
of my ability, go into as much

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detail as I possibly can about
how the magic works and how the

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mind control works.
It's very important that I do

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that because as I mentioned in
the last episode with you, that

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everything that they do to their
targets and and the people in

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their immediate life, they
eventually do on the masses.

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And so the spiritual, the
spiritual warfare applies to

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mankind and then the mind
control aspect that comes with

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it and after it also is applied
to mankind.

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So I feel it's a very important
thing, a very important time to

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try and articulate as best as I
can.

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Are you still there?
Uh oh.

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Loser again, Coco No.
Hello.

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Looks like we we got you back.
That was just for a second,

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right?
Yeah, that wasn't that wasn't.

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OK, yeah.
So basically, give me a minute.

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That's OK.
It's trust me, I understand.

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When the flow state gets
interrupted, it's pretty tough

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to recover.
It's annoying.

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I'll be fine.
I'm sorry.

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Don't be sorry.
So yeah, this is where I was

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going with that.
My ability to communicate these

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things is not great because I
kept all of this to myself for

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so many years.
Imagine not speaking your whole

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life and then suddenly being
expected to know how to speak.

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That's how I feel right now.
And I've written a lot in my own

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journals and Diaries and it's
talked to myself a lot.

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But talking to other people
about these things, it's, it's a

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learning process and I would
like to learn as best as I can

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how to describe and explain all
of these things so that it can

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maybe help mankind.
And then in the long run, the

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really the long term goal is to,
is to help shift people's

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perspectives in a way in what
I'm going through myself, which

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is to shift my perspective out
of a, a fear based mindset and

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go into a mindset of peace and
acceptance, which is what I'm

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learning to do right now.
Because if you're in a, a place

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of fear and panic and and
overwhelming sadness and pain,

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you cannot act to the best of
your ability to effect change.

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So in order for you to change
the things to the best of our

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ability, we have to 1st be at
peace.

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And we can only find peace with
all the horror in the world if

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we first accept it.
And that's something that we all

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really refuse to do.
Why would I accept all this

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horror?
I have to be in panic.

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I have to be afraid, I have to
be angry.

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And of course, these are all
natural responses, but it clouds

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the mind.
It clouds the vision.

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And so I'm hoping that sharing
my own journey in overcoming

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these obstacles, these mental
obstacles will help others to

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shift their perspective and be
more compassionate and more

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peaceful and more courageous in
the way that they approach the

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problems going on in the world.
Well, good stuff.

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I like the way that you're
approaching all of this.

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It's I know a lot of people
work.

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We're kind of leaving comments
about the the whole vagueness

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and everything, but there's a
lot of safety that you that has

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to be kept in mind with the with
releasing a lot of this stuff.

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Before we jump into some more
stuff, I just want to give a

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shout out to YouTube.
There's a ton of people that are

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chiming in on YouTube right now,
or at least on the the watcher

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count.
I have a couple comments coming

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through.
This is not our normal recording

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time.
We're actually about 3 hours

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early trying to help Coco out.
So that's just not doing the

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interview at 3:00 AM again.
So should be a little cognitive.

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So I just want to give a shout
out to people on YouTube.

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We don't.
We usually don't get a huge

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watcher list from from YouTube.
So we're live.

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We're live on YouTube right now
as well.

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Yep, Yeah.
Oh yeah.

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We're, we're live on all of my
sofos right now.

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Yep.
So we, we typically go live

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everywhere.
Oh, my Valium is lower than

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Coco.
Oh.

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What's up?
Can you hear me tapping?

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Yeah, looks like we got, we got
a couple, couple podcasts that

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that I've talked talked about
you recently.

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Really.
Yep, Nights of the Storm on

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Rumble and then we got somebody
else.

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Karen Carpenter said that she
shared a clip from Coco on on

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her podcast yesterday too.
So Karen, if you can drop the

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name of your podcast, I'll go
ahead and give you guys a shout

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out too.
So.

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That's awesome.
All right, so you're you're

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getting like getting a lot of
play time right now getting out

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there and I'm happy to be able
to do that for you and I

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appreciate you coming on this
show.

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That's awesome.
But you're really reaching a lot

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of people right now.
How do you feel about that?

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How do you feel about the whole
just generally reaching more

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people with with this this
information?

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You know, in a very kind of like
calm, unbalanced way terrifies

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me.
As I said, beginning, I'm

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terrified of, of success because
it means that once you succeed

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in something, you have to keep
going because you've got all of

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this encouragement and it's good
encouragement.

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And I'm so used to being so
stagnant in my life and then

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being connected to all of these
people, so many people that are

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inspired by you.
And there's always that, that

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idea of that, that notion that
if they had entered into the

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wrong pocket of your mind and
got to know you better, they

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might not actually like you.
And so is any of this really

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genuine?
There's that.

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I don't know if I'm
overthinking.

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I probably am overthinking it
because I'm very, I feel things

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very deeply and I get attached
to people.

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I really feel deep connections
and attachments to people.

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And it's very strange to connect
with so many strangers all at

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once.
There's, there's a whole

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philosophical conundrum there
that's just running through my

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my whole being.
So I don't know how to answer

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that question.
Well, I, I think that it's, I

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think it's that it's legit,
right?

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People definitely are very
interested in what you have to

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say.
They have a lot of respect for

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what you have to say.
People are showing up to to this

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episode right now just to hear
you talk.

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I could tell you right now, I
don't usually have these numbers

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on YouTube when I talk.
So it's it's definitely there's

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a lot showing here for the
respect that people have for

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you.
And it looks like the Knights of

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the Storm was the name of that
podcast.

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So I don't know if we have two
people from the same podcast

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here or if it's one person, but
I do apologize.

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Knights of the storm.
Check that out if you guys want

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to hear a clip from Coco and and
hear their takes on it.

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But all right, you ready for
another question?

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Yeah.
All right, let's see, protective

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measures.
We've talked a lot about

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vagueness and, and everything,
right?

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What are some other protective
measures that that you are are

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utilizing in order to make sure
that you're not necessarily

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putting out too much information
or putting out the wrong

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information or any information
that's going to get you

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necessarily in trouble?
I think the last 12 years of my

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silence was my protective
measure because the last 12

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years of my silence, I've been
figuring out how best I've been

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figuring out I've been figuring
out.

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I mean, after 12 years of
silence, I only now have come to

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the conclusion of what's of the
best value to share.

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What will help people?
The fact that I held my tongue

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for 12 years and allowed myself
to develop and grow and to get a

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better grasp on what's going on.
The fact that I have, the last

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12 years, mostly learnt the
things that I've learnt through

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my intuitive capacity, my clear
cognitive and clear cognizance

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and Clair sentience.
Those capacities that I have

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that have caught the attention
of some very dangerous and

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powerful occultists, Those
capacities have allowed me to

457
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:21,160
uncover and reveal all of these
secrets without actually being

458
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,880
deeply involved in all of these
things.

459
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,680
I think I mentioned before that
I'm the kind of person, yes, in

460
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,600
the last podcast, I'm the kind
of person that's not supposed to

461
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,680
know any of these things that
are going on.

462
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,040
But I do because I just pay a
lot of attention.

463
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,400
And it's pissed off a lot of
people who invested a lot in me

464
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,240
to go down a certain roads that
say yellow brick roads that they

465
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,840
had paved for me so many times I
didn't go down it.

466
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,840
And that's upset people.
So the protective measure is

467
00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:00,640
really the fact that I don't
really have any information that

468
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,760
could put me in any immediate
danger because of the way I came

469
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,720
about the information.
Now, I could be really stupid

470
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,760
and start saying a lot of names
and places and times and things

471
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,320
that I don't really have
evidence for, but could

472
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:23,280
definitely upset a few people.
And that's to do with the the

473
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,400
aspect of the criminal network
that utilizes children.

474
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:31,880
But I don't have anything that I
can say that could make any

475
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,120
difference there.
All it could do is is bring

476
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,640
problems into my life.
It's not going to help anyone.

477
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,200
So there's, if I wasn't being
smart that could you know,

478
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,240
focusing the energy on the wrong
area, right?

479
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,680
So the main protective measure
is my energy at the moment,

480
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:59,680
staying out of fear frequency
and having an ideal and a goal,

481
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,400
which is to the benefit of
myself and everyone that I can

482
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,360
reach something that is positive
and good.

483
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,720
That is my protective measure.
And again, that might sound

484
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,320
vague because I'm not going
into, you know, all these

485
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,000
physical things that I can do,
but none of those physical

486
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440
things that you can do to
protect yourself really matter

487
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,320
if you're not on the right
energy wavelength and frequency

488
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:34,320
of peace, acceptance and looking
toward upliftment and and growth

489
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,480
and goodness in my life.
So have you had any discussions

490
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,360
with your grandfather or even
your father about stepping out

491
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,520
about your appearances on either
my show or on Gareth Ike's show?

492
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,360
Have you talked to them about
any of this shit?

493
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:52,960
I don't really talk to my father
a lot.

494
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,080
I still haven't sent them their
Christmas gifts from last year.

495
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,920
My grandfather.
I really hope that no one in my

496
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,240
family sees any of these
interviews.

497
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,240
They probably will and I'm
prepared for that.

498
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:08,200
But really, no, I, I don't, I,
you know, I don't think me

499
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,840
sharing any of this stuff is
going to make them very happy

500
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,400
because for one, I don't think
they really understand why I'm

501
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:14,800
doing it.
And that's fine.

502
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,920
But no, I mentioned on Gareth
like that if I try to talk to my

503
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,400
grandparents about these things,
they have these protective

504
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,680
self-defense barriers where they
can't really talk about the dark

505
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,840
things going on around them in
their lives.

506
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,680
They have to focus on the good
things.

507
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,160
And I think that's perfectly
fine for people their age coming

508
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,120
from the world that they came
from the 60s and everything that

509
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:43,200
that's their path.
And it's my path to unravel all

510
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,080
of the darkness.
And that's not an easy thing to

511
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,480
take on.
Well, that question came live

512
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,400
off of one of our YouTube
watchers, MK Icky.

513
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,280
So I just wanted to make sure I
give credit to to to them.

514
00:30:56,280 --> 00:31:00,520
I added a little bit about your,
your grandfather, but just thank

515
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,480
you for posting your questions
in the comments.

516
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,760
Please have them have them keep
coming and I'll, I'll fit them

517
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,880
in when I can for sure.
Something that I'm pretty

518
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,800
curious about.
Has there been any censorship

519
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,600
push towards you in this at all,
from either the entities that

520
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:20,680
have originally done any of this
to or with you, or from

521
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,160
mainstream media entities?
Anything at all?

522
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Has there been any any effort to
try to censor you?

523
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:31,200
I think the effort to try to
censor me, as you know, been

524
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,520
ongoing for the last 12 years.
They were more preventative

525
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,760
measures.
And I'm at this point I realized

526
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,480
that most of what they do is an
illusion.

527
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,360
They're masters of illusion.
So I'm here, I'm talking maybe

528
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,760
in the last couple of weeks,
some things have popped up here

529
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,120
and there, but nothing that I
don't really want to talk about

530
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:57,400
that or focus my energy on that
because I don't, I don't want to

531
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,440
feed into that.
You know, I don't want to feed

532
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,400
into that.
Let's just say I'm, I'm fine,

533
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,200
everything's fine.
I'm going to keep going ahead

534
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,240
and nothing's stalking me.
So I got another question that

535
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,400
just came through.
This is from that podcast and

536
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,480
Nights of the Storm we have,
looks like we have the two hosts

537
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,880
in here right now.
One of those hosts wants to

538
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,520
know, did you know immediately
that COVID was a trauma mind

539
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,320
control agenda?
Well, I mean, I've been

540
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,080
following people like David Icke
and Alex Jones since I was 16.

541
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,800
They've been talking about the,
the, the, the huge, what are

542
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,040
they, those huge facilities
where they have body bags and

543
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,960
stuff since I was 16, you know,
so they've been talking about

544
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,920
they're going to do this big
thing for so many years.

545
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,200
And that was the big thing.
So yes, I, I, I knew immediately

546
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,920
that that was the big thing.
Did I was, the question is, did

547
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,760
I think that the virus was real,
like was a real threat from the

548
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,160
beginning?
And honestly, I, I don't think I

549
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,720
did.
I don't think I ever took it

550
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:08,160
seriously at all.
Because for one, like in the

551
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,920
history of mankind, when, if we
locked down the entire planet

552
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520
all at once for a, for a virus,
we're going to die.

553
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Let us let's fucking die.
This guy is going to die.

554
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,320
And you can't stop an airborne,
not an airborne, that kind of

555
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,240
transmissible virus.
You can slow it down slightly,

556
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,280
but you can't stop it from
reaching its end goal.

557
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,480
You can't.
So there's no point in shutting

558
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,480
down the whole world.
So for me it was this is all

559
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,280
performative from the first
moment.

560
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,200
I just want to share a little
bit of information that so

561
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,320
recently we've been kicked off a
TikTok and it's it, I just, I

562
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,520
think the whole TikTok and, and
how that's been influenced or

563
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:56,000
the influence that it's had on
just the, the global script, if

564
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,720
you will, when COVID first
started.

565
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,840
And I'm probably going to get
some sort of message from

566
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,160
YouTube or some other socials
that we're on right now about

567
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,440
how I shouldn't say naughty
words like COVID, but when when

568
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,560
COVID first started, I remember
we could.

569
00:34:12,639 --> 00:34:16,239
Say lockdowns instead of COVID.
Oh, I don't, I don't care.

570
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,440
I personally couldn't, couldn't
care less.

571
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,840
Yeah, I, I do AI do a podcast on
conspiracies and it's, it is

572
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,159
what it is.
It's the, it is what it is.

573
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,800
There you go.
So I, I remember when the whole

574
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,239
COVID thing first started, I was
still in the Navy at the time.

575
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:40,120
And I remember 2 specific clips
on news channels, pretty much,

576
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,880
you know, anywhere where I,
where I was, because I want to

577
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,560
say I was traveling back and
forth between Virginia and

578
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,440
California to do some
detachments during that time

579
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,400
frame.
And it was, I believe France was

580
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,120
one of them.
There was a hospital in France

581
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,320
or many clips coming out of
France where they were showing

582
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,040
the, the body bags that you had
just talked about right?

583
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,040
Where they were just lining them
up outside of the, the hospital.

584
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,040
But I think the, the, the real
mistake that they made was that

585
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,920
they also were showing clips
from hospitals in New York City

586
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,280
and people were flooding to
TikTok, you know, nurses and

587
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,880
other practitioners and the, the
medical field that are around or

588
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,080
in these hospitals.
We're sending clips of them

589
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,720
unloading these body bags out of
shipping containers and

590
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,480
truckloads of them instead of
taking them away from the the

591
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,040
hospital.
They were loading them up

592
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,080
outside to basically what like
they were staging this and it

593
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:42,680
was it was really eye opening to
myself at that time that, you

594
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,280
know, this is kind of like my
aha moment.

595
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,920
My Co host, Jeff, that would
typically be here with us

596
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,640
tonight is, you know, he's, he
understands how this stuff goes

597
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,280
already.
But this was kind of like my, my

598
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,160
introduction to Hey, everything
you see is not how it actually

599
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680
is, but you're, you're, you're
being controlled.

600
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:05,440
And you know, when you come on,
you talk about the, the stuff

601
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,320
that you went through and you've
seen a lot of parallels, right?

602
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,600
You're just seeing it on a, on a
smaller scale, you're seeing it

603
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,840
happen to one person.
And we, we specifically talked

604
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:18,120
about a gathering that that you
attended last time we talked,

605
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,440
right?
That's a, that's a smaller

606
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,760
scale.
And then of course, there wasn't

607
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,800
body bags, but there's still a
lot of parallels there.

608
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,400
I just want, I just thought that
was interesting.

609
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,280
And I also wanted to just say
fuck you TikTok, because, you

610
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,880
know, whatever, it just doesn't
like some of the things that we

611
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,840
talk about here on the show, but
whatever it's, it is what it is.

612
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,040
So, but no, no current
censorship or anything like

613
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,320
that.
Nothing since the the the two

614
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,880
episodes have come out where
people are like, Hey, don't you

615
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:50,080
talk about that.
Look, the way it works is that

616
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:55,840
they do it symbolically.
You go for a walk and maybe

617
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,120
someone next to you will say
something and it'll sound like

618
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,320
it's to someone else, but it
will be like a threat.

619
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,400
Or maybe there's just things
that I really just don't want to

620
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,640
mention because they're just so
negative and I don't want to put

621
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,320
that out there.
But the those kinds of things

622
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,680
would be symbolic.
It would have to be in a

623
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,200
symbolic way around me because
that's how they get away with

624
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:27,160
what they do all the time.
And then of course, I have a big

625
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,960
interview coming up on the and
for some reason on the 11th,

626
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,400
that's the day that the people
are coming to take the Internet

627
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,000
away because we cancelled it
because I don't want Internet

628
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,400
and the house anymore.
And I just find it funny that

629
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,800
they've chosen that particular
day when I'm going to view a

630
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:51,040
very big interview.
And I don't have any other way

631
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:57,160
to to use the Internet right now
because my partner's away for a

632
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,120
few weeks, so a couple of weeks.
So I'm in the countryside and

633
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,600
all I've got is my phone
Internet and the landline

634
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,640
Internet.
So hopefully it will work out on

635
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,000
the day of the big interview.
So I'm more like looking out for

636
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,760
things like, you know, is the
Internet going to work, that

637
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,160
kind of thing.
I think, I think it will be

638
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,160
fine.
I think if anything, there'll be

639
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,080
a few moments here and there
will go out.

640
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,560
You know, again, it's it's about
illusion more than anything

641
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,000
else.
Yeah, I've been doing this

642
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,960
podcast for five years now, and
I can tell you one thing from

643
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,320
experience with it.
It's when you start getting into

644
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:37,720
the really deep, deep topics
that Internet just randomly cuts

645
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,440
out.
It's it's it's crazy.

646
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,040
And I know a lot of people.
There'll be messages in my DMS

647
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,600
after this.
This episode goes live where,

648
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,400
you know, because when, when you
had broken off there for a

649
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,280
minute, the interruption that we
had, I'd said, oh, somebody

650
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,840
doesn't want us talking about
this.

651
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,920
And I, I make mention of that
pretty much every time that it

652
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,480
happens and somebody wants to
message me and say, Ah, man, you

653
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,400
know, you stop getting full of
yourself.

654
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,960
You know, nobody cares about
your little podcast or whatever.

655
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,200
It's like, well, it's pretty
convenient that every time it

656
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,080
happens, it's specifically when
we're diving into some really

657
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,200
dark stuff.
We never get this when we talk

658
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,160
about like, let's say cryptids,
like if we're talking about

659
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,600
Bigfoot with a Bigfoot
researcher, we don't get

660
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,320
interrupted.
But when we're talking about

661
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:26,320
like some of the really deep,
dark, twisted truce of the

662
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:32,560
underbelly of the celebrity
lifestyle and and world, yeah,

663
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,360
it then the Internet goes out,
you know?

664
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,560
Most of these people are under
surveillance all the time.

665
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,440
Oh yeah, so and.
Of course, of course.

666
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:51,840
Yeah, cool.
Let's try to try and keep it

667
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,720
going.
I have a bad habit of

668
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,440
sidetracking into other things.
I do it all the time.

669
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,280
That's why it's called.
Well, let me know when we get to

670
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:02,360
like a bit, just a bit over an
hour because I would eventually

671
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,920
like to get into some of these
things.

672
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,480
Well, how about this, let's
let's dive into what you're

673
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,280
wanting to get into so we can
make sure we get that.

674
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:13,280
And then with any time at the
end, if you want to answer some

675
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,440
more questions, then we'll we'll
dive into that.

676
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,800
And if not, I mean, you're
always welcome to come back on

677
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,320
the show.
We've talked about possibly

678
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:23,320
doing a third already.
So there'll be questions for

679
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,720
next time too.
Well, something that my

680
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:30,360
grandparents taught me.
You know, my grandfather was one

681
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,360
of the most famous people on the
planet for quite a few years and

682
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,520
that does something.
You know, that's a lot.

683
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,760
He could have spent the rest of
his life in very influential and

684
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,880
powerful circles.
But for whatever reason, and

685
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:48,120
there's good reasons and bad
reasons, he decided to live a

686
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,640
more low profile life, sold his
mansion and bought houses in

687
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:58,320
more normal residential areas
and went to theaters or clubs

688
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,560
that were more intimate rather
than doing large tours and

689
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,720
things like that.
And whenever we stayed in nice

690
00:41:05,720 --> 00:41:10,120
hotels, we wouldn't stay in
like, oh, it's one of those big

691
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,640
ones like The Four Seasons and
stuff like that.

692
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,000
We wouldn't stay in those huge,
massive fancy hotels we had the

693
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,080
money to, but we'd stay in the
the more intimate ones.

694
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,760
And instead of buying Gucci and
Prada, they would buy, you know,

695
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,360
things from boutiques that were
handmade.

696
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:32,920
And so I had this live this kind
of life where my family had all

697
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,720
of the potential to go in all of
these big directions.

698
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:38,400
But they decided to keep things
small and intimate.

699
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,200
And I'm very glad that I had
that subtle influence in the

700
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,720
background because now I'm doing
this thing.

701
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,640
I'd rather build a good
relationship with a few people

702
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,320
and build a solid following than
just, you know, just charge

703
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
ahead and just get the next big
thing and the next big thing and

704
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,160
the next big thing.
I don't need that.

705
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:04,200
I don't, I don't need it.
So coming back and doing more

706
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,960
thorough interviews and doing
things slowly and building

707
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,280
things up and it's more real,
it's more authentic and it's

708
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,800
more effective in my opinion.
No.

709
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,840
And I, I couldn't agree with you
more.

710
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,880
I mean, it's, it's a nice
controlled release of of what

711
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,080
you've been through and the
information that you want to put

712
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,520
out there.
I respect it for sure.

713
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:26,880
So what else do you got?
What would you like to talk

714
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,360
about tonight?
So we already went into a little

715
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,240
bit one of those first questions
on how they select.

716
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,320
I guess we could talk a bit more
about that.

717
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,480
Honestly, it was better when
when we did this interview when

718
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,680
it was 3/5 in the morning
because I was.

719
00:42:42,720 --> 00:42:47,840
You were you were fully lucid.
Yes, I was way more relaxed like

720
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,280
anyway.
So how do they select people?

721
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:58,600
Yeah, let's talk about that.
Birth charts proximity, meaning,

722
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:05,880
you know, are there certain
clusters of cults or military or

723
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:10,240
various aspects of the criminal
network and they there's someone

724
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,520
in the nearby neighborhood that
might spark interest.

725
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,160
And then obviously you have the
energetic aspect.

726
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:23,160
These people, they can see
someone's energy and actually

727
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,080
someone mentioned on your
podcast on under under our

728
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,320
episode on YouTube of the movie
Doctor sleep.

729
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:34,040
And it's incredibly realistic.
It's terrifyingly realistic.

730
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,760
It was very hard for me to watch
it.

731
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:40,000
I've watched it a few times.
It's a great movie, but the way

732
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,920
that the the group of magicians
or whatever they are selected

733
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:50,360
the children to to feed on their
soul, to give them immortal life

734
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,320
and all of these various
spiritual powers is very

735
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,520
accurate.
They sense, they think they can

736
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,800
go around and sense
energetically the people around

737
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,240
them.
And then of course, you have

738
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:09,400
bloodline aspect of if you're
within a certain family, it

739
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,680
doesn't matter if you have a
special occult power or not,

740
00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:18,520
you're still somewhat targeted
for specific usefulness and

741
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,320
purposes.
In my case, just the fact that I

742
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,200
was born into a famous family,
I'm already exposed to all of

743
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,200
these kinds of people who are
looking out for these kinds of

744
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,760
people.
And then I would say that if you

745
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,840
have a particular birth chart,
they look into your birth

746
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,520
charts, they look into your
potential future and potential

747
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,960
power that you have and the
potential money that you can

748
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,200
generate.
If you're a child, they'll

749
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,680
invest in you and they don't
need the permission of your

750
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,080
parents.
They'll just invest in you.

751
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,760
They'll put you on a little list
and be like, this person is

752
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,320
going to be useful and we're
going to groom this person to to

753
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,920
grow up a certain way and we're
going to lead them down a

754
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,200
certain path.
And then they're going to get

755
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,360
introduced to this person,
introduce that person either

756
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,080
music wise or entertainment
wise.

757
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,640
I'm just focusing on the
entertainment aspect, but it

758
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,800
applies to many different walks
of life, but it's focused on the

759
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,000
entertainment aspect.
So they lead you into that world

760
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,120
and, and that's an investment,
that investment of time and

761
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,040
energy and thought of leading
this person down this path

762
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,560
because eventually I can profit
off of this person, whether it's

763
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,280
financially or energetically.
It's both really.

764
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,440
And then they do obviously the
mind control aspect of it.

765
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:40,160
So they'll have you taken at a
certain, at certain points

766
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,600
during your childhood, they'll
have you taken and drugged and

767
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,840
put through various trauma based
mind control scenarios.

768
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:53,400
I would say people like Lady
Gaga and Ariana Grande were put

769
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,960
through these types of trauma
based mind control things and it

770
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:03,160
creates sort of dissociative
abilities so that they can use

771
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,720
trigger words to send you into
these dissociative states to

772
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:11,120
tell you exactly what to where
to go and stuff like that.

773
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,080
And because I didn't have a lot
of exposure to the mind control

774
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:20,520
aspect was never, I never got to
that point of that type of

775
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,160
manipulation and control.
I went through certain things,

776
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,040
but I never went through a
complete program.

777
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,560
So I'm not, I don't have those
dissociative capacities.

778
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:36,400
I cannot be LED, not how they
would like me to be LED anyway.

779
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:43,840
So that's how they select people
and, and the reason why they

780
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,640
select people for their various
motives.

781
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,760
And then do you have any
questions on that?

782
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,520
Yeah.
What aspects of the birth chart

783
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,120
are they looking at?
Do you do you know?

784
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,760
Well, I'm not an astrologer.
It really helps.

785
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,080
If it had anything to do with
astrology periods.

786
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,360
It really, really, really helps
if you have a birth time of the

787
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120
individual, because if you have
the birth time, you can more or

788
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,080
less accurately predict at what
time in their life they'll be

789
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:16,600
successful.
But even without that, the birth

790
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,920
time, you can have an idea of if
someone has strong creative

791
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:29,400
capacity or strong community,
community communication

792
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,920
abilities and whether or not
they are very attractive to

793
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,920
others.
All the things you would want in

794
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,880
someone in entertainment.
So I can't give you specific

795
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:43,560
signs or placements or anything
like that.

796
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,800
I'm not an astrologer, but an
astrologer crew.

797
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,200
That's as much as I can say
about that.

798
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,720
Yeah, I just wrote down because
I don't have too much knowledge

799
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,000
in the astrology world either,
but it's something that I've

800
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,760
always been interested in.
I mean, I've always kind of

801
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:05,360
been, I've, I've been in the
thought space, if you will, that

802
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:08,840
if a subject has enough
followers, there's a reason

803
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,080
behind it, right?
Just because I don't see

804
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:15,400
personally a lot of connections
to astrology and that kind of

805
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,600
aspect of of interest that
people have.

806
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:18,760
There's got to be something to
it.

807
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:25,360
Because a lot of these people
that are claimed were thought to

808
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,360
be within these networks, right?
As especially in the celebrity

809
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:32,360
side of things and the political
side of things, we know that

810
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,800
they are very heavily into
astrology and other similar

811
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,640
practices.
So I actually just wrote down

812
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,560
here, look for a good
astrologer.

813
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,080
To see everything is based off
of astrology.

814
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,800
Everything.
All of the sacred books, all of

815
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,560
the big world events in history,
everything.

816
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:56,200
When they do various ceremonies
like bringing in a new queen or

817
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,680
a new king or a new Pope or a
new emperor or a new politician

818
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,880
for thousands of years,
everything is based off of

819
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,120
astrology.
Everything.

820
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,760
I need to find a good guest that
can really break that down.

821
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:17,240
I had, I had somebody come on or
was was going to come on who I,

822
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:21,320
I thought was going to be able
to break this down very well for

823
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,440
us.
But they blew us off 3 times in

824
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,000
a row.
Yeah.

825
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,120
And it was, it was.
It was the day of recording,

826
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,920
too.
No, that's terrible.

827
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:35,440
Looks like we got our first chat
from Twitch.

828
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,040
Looks like Twitch is starting to
build back up.

829
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,000
Spectrum Assassin.
Long time listener to the shows

830
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,720
but it comes in and and checks
us out all the time.

831
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,040
Says it's numerology.
It can be used to determine your

832
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,880
type.
Sorry, it could be used.

833
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,480
It could be used to determine
your type.

834
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,520
Yes, yes, yes.
So that would be your your like

835
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:02,160
birth, pass your life, pass all
of that stuff, which is very

836
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,280
useful.
Now I'll go into that.

837
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,080
The point of astrology and
numerology and everything the

838
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:15,680
entire universe is this vast
web, this vast web of of cogs

839
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,280
and wheels and every single
thing is connected everything.

840
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:27,200
And if you are in TuneIn the
right way, you can make

841
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,520
connections between everything
and reveal pretty much anything

842
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,840
about any.
If you, if you're in tune, if

843
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:40,080
you can TuneIn onto that web,
that vast universal web,

844
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,680
everything is there.
It's mathematics.

845
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,840
And of course you have to have
certain kind of mind to be an

846
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,000
astrologer or a numerologist.
You have to have a certain kind

847
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,240
of mind.
You can't just be a

848
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:57,400
mathematician or a physicist.
You have to be open to emotion

849
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,560
to to shifts within human
consciousness, to shifts within

850
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,760
the human race at large and the
various ages and cycles that we

851
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,480
that we go through.
You have to pay attention to

852
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,040
things.
And then from a very personal

853
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,560
point of view, in one outer body
experience that I had many years

854
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,760
ago, not many years ago, like
767 years ago, I went back in

855
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,960
time, thousands of years, and I
met these people that were

856
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,640
living in a sort of desert
landscape in these sort of huts

857
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,680
made out of leaves, like dried
leaves and reeds and things.

858
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:38,840
And they had pitch black skin
and they were painted in this

859
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,160
fluorescent blue paint and they
were making jewellery and bags

860
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,760
and things.
And the person that I was

861
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:51,000
watching looked at me in a way
and told me without moving his

862
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:56,480
lips while speaking, he told me
that a long time ago people

863
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:00,960
could talk to the stars as
easily as people talk to each

864
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,200
other today as easily as that.
And this might sound a bit nuts,

865
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:09,800
but going into that aspect of
making connections and figuring

866
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,560
things out and this kind of idea
of physics that there is no

867
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,200
space between anything, there is
no distance between anything,

868
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,160
how does the Internet work?
How does information travel

869
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,640
halfway across the planet
instantaneously?

870
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:27,800
It's the same system that
information can travel across an

871
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,800
entire Galaxy instantaneously.
There's a lot to unfold here.

872
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,680
There's a lot to unfold in this
one because there's there's a

873
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,640
lot of parallels.
There's a lot of parallels.

874
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:41,120
We had a, a gentleman that came
on and specifically told us

875
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,440
about his research into the star
people from Native American

876
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,680
more, right?
And they had a lot of mind speak

877
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:51,040
and nonverbal communication
between various Native American

878
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:55,040
tribes throughout the United
States and these star people or

879
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:56,880
star children that they would
call them, right?

880
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:00,960
Depending on what the regional
area of the the country was,

881
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,280
they had different names for
them.

882
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:07,080
And then you also have this,
this whole sector of science,

883
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,520
especially like psychologists
who it's it's kind of a

884
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,800
emergent, if you will, of like a
psychologist and anthropologist,

885
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:22,080
right, who believe that verbal
communication was built because

886
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:27,680
of population, right?
Because of the density of people

887
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,360
with population density OK.
Right.

888
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,840
How many people you can fit?
So basically the.

889
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,240
The need for verbal
communication became it became a

890
00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:40,440
need eventually.
It became and there there's so

891
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,200
many different theories about
this too.

892
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,720
I I've seen theories on this
that go along the the the route

893
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:52,920
of it's more calorically
efficient to use verbal

894
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,640
communication then it would be
Helena mind power.

895
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,080
Helena Blavatsky in her Secret
Doctrine goes into all of this

896
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:06,480
very, very well on how the human
race developed and how we went

897
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:11,160
from a species that communicated
through the mind at a time when

898
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:15,160
the earth was covered in a thick
mist, watery mist and everything

899
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,400
was dark.
So we didn't really have need to

900
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,600
see when our physical eyes.
So we we saw etherically and we

901
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:27,000
spoke etherically and we didn't
really use our vocal cords and

902
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,920
slowly over time things develop.
Helena Levatsky is where I I go

903
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,160
to for that that kind of that
kind of information.

904
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,400
Be interested to look into what
what you're the people you're

905
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,520
talking about.
There's there's two more aspects

906
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:42,640
of the show that we've covered
at one point or another.

907
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,600
We had a huge and this might be
way, way outside of the box here

908
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,600
on this particular episode, but
we have had this one guest on a

909
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,440
couple of times.
His name's Carter Bush Hard, and

910
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,920
he does specific research into a
communications of Bigfoot,

911
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:03,280
Sasquatch, right, and other
bipedal apes hidden in plain

912
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:07,480
sight that utilize mindspeak.
He has an entire series of books

913
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:11,560
dedicated to the study of this
and his experiences with this.

914
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,280
And now we're also seeing this
other aspect in which we've

915
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:17,880
talked a little bit on this.
I'm actually going to be a part

916
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,640
of a panel in Fond du Lac, WI on
Mother's Day to 2026.

917
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,000
So if anybody's interested in
that, come check me out there.

918
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:32,160
I'll be with the the Caps team
out in Fond du Lac where we're

919
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,320
going to be talking about CE5,
close Encounters of the Fifth

920
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,240
Kind.
That's making a huge headway

921
00:55:37,240 --> 00:55:42,000
right now with how people are
non verbally or mind

922
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,000
communicating with UFOs.
They're able to control them or

923
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,720
at least pull them into their
local vicinity simply by

924
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:55,120
utilizing this exercise known
widely as CE5 now.

925
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,920
So it there seems to be an
aspect of this making its way

926
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,880
back into the world that we
know.

927
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Because if you look at all the
news stations at least over like

928
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,320
let's say the last year
specifically, we've seen more

929
00:56:09,720 --> 00:56:13,960
UFO topics break the headlines
than we've ever seen in the

930
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,840
history of humankind, at least
into in since 1952 when we had

931
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,960
that huge flap of UFO spotted
over the United States Capitol

932
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,240
in Washington, DC.
So there, there's a lot to be

933
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:27,360
said about this nonverbal
communication.

934
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,800
Well, in the United States
between the 70s and the 90s,

935
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:38,160
there was a particular program,
I think Stargate program, where

936
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,240
they funded millions and
millions of dollars into this

937
00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:46,120
program about remote viewing.
They don't spend 2 decades

938
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,440
spending millions on a program
that doesn't work.

939
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,440
And the whole point was that
people could travel with their

940
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,760
mind to any point, not just on
this earth, but in the universe.

941
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,240
So that that was government
money.

942
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:08,760
So we really officially know
that these things are possible.

943
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,520
And honestly, I would say that a
lot about technology and

944
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,720
Internet communications came
from the studies, the early

945
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:19,080
studies that they did with
remote viewing and this type of

946
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:25,040
this, where you can communicate
with people across the globe or

947
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,640
offload, you know, the
government knows about these

948
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,640
things.
The government definitely knows

949
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,080
about it.
We had somebody in the chat on

950
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,400
YouTube mentioned the minister
of Goats, right?

951
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:43,720
That is a Hollywood movie based
off of the project Stargate and

952
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:47,840
what they did, right?
And you had a lot of major

953
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,760
people like McDougal or
McDougal.

954
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:56,160
But there's a yeah, it's a great
movie.

955
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,240
It's hilarious actually, too.
It's really.

956
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:03,240
Funny, but they are.
The Jedi references was just

957
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,160
amazing because I don't know if
you've seen the the prequels of

958
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,800
Star Wars.
Obi Wan Kenobi was a Jedi in the

959
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,000
prequels and then he's the like
the main character in then

960
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,720
hysteric codes and he like makes
references to the Jedi like 4

961
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,080
times.
It's just oh it's hilarious.

962
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,200
It's so.
I wish, I wish actually, it

963
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,080
might be a blessing that I don't
have any of my Co hosts with me

964
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,080
tonight because I catch crap all
the time because I've never seen

965
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,560
Star Wars so.
You're not a movie guy, though.

966
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,360
You're not a movie.
Guy, I'm not, I'm not.

967
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:34,960
I have seen my stare at Goats,
though.

968
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,800
I have actually.
I did a whole pot, a whole

969
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,760
podcast on another show called
the, the title of the show that

970
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,120
or the podcast that we did with
them was Podcasters Who Stare at

971
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,080
Goats.
It was all about that, that

972
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,520
movie.
So I had to watch it for that,

973
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,960
for that.
But I just want to make mention

974
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,320
because I love books.
OK, if anybody's watching

975
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,680
Infinite Rabbit Hole for the
first time, you'll know I love

976
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,440
books.
But there is a book out there

977
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,200
called out there.
See that by Howard Bloom.

978
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:07,320
And he actually goes into a lot
of the really deep back history

979
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,920
of Project Stargate and where it
started.

980
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:14,040
So it originally started off as
a project called Scanning, which

981
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:18,360
is a combination word, a
compound word combining the word

982
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:23,680
scanning and coordinate, right?
So project scanning was the

983
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,520
original project.
And he goes into a lot of

984
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,760
specific events that happened in
Washington DC where they were

985
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:35,080
testing all this out.
Like this one sailor who was

986
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:40,120
picked for the project scanning
program, who was in a in a lead

987
00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:45,320
case room and he had to find 9
different submarines around the

988
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,880
base are around around the
planet.

989
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,920
And he he was able to find them
perfectly.

990
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,400
And this is actually where
project scanning split into two

991
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,080
different programs, one of them
being the Stargate program that

992
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,720
we all know about.
Now that's been declassified and

993
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,880
apparently Bunnier quotes shut
down, right?

994
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,600
That's been discontinued.
But then the other one, which is

995
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,240
Project Aquarius, which there's
a lot of.

996
01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:14,160
Theories about what project
Aquarius potentially could have

997
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,800
been or is one of which being
highly I I would say the real

998
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,240
project blue book, right.
So project blue book came out by

999
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,680
the Air Force and it was a whole
research program.

1000
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,280
It was shit really what it was
it was it was crap.

1001
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,760
But it's thought that project
Aquarius was a real reason

1002
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:36,000
behind that because when they
were testing all these people

1003
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:41,240
and project scanning and getting
DC to to pitched the funding for

1004
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,400
all of this.
These people who were subject to

1005
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,120
the testing in front of
congressman and other big named

1006
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,040
or bigwig people in the
government.

1007
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,160
They discovered that a lot of
these nuclear submarines that

1008
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,760
they had at the time were
actually being followed by UFOs,

1009
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:01,360
which gave birth to the whole
project Aquarius.

1010
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,360
It's a great book.
I highly recommend it.

1011
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,360
Never heard.
Of never heard that part of the

1012
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,440
story before.
Yes, it's, it's very

1013
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:10,640
interesting.
I do.

1014
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,360
While we're on the subject of
books, I bought a book last time

1015
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,640
we talked like I do with a lot
of my guests.

1016
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:20,040
I buy books all the time at the
astral body and other astral

1017
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,960
phenomena.
You recommended this book to me.

1018
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:25,240
Does this cover any of the stuff
that you were just talking about

1019
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:29,280
when it comes to like astrology
and the birth charts and stuff?

1020
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,120
Is that, is that all covered in
this?

1021
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:32,520
I haven't read it yet.
No, it's not.

1022
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:37,080
It's not an astrology book.
It's, it's one of, I think 5

1023
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,560
books about the various
spiritual bodies of man.

1024
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,640
And it just tries to give a very
detailed and thorough

1025
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:50,520
understanding of the function
and anatomy, let's say, of each

1026
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,680
of these bodies.
So it's a very, what do you call

1027
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:59,800
it, like a very clinical kind of
book, you know, very specific.

1028
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,760
Well, all right, I didn't mean
to derail us down that whole

1029
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,440
rabbit hole.
I do that a lot.

1030
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,000
Sorry.
Well, that's what these long

1031
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,800
form podcasts are about.
It's it's like a conversation

1032
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:11,720
between friends.
So perfectly.

1033
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:13,000
It's great.
Good.

1034
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,880
Yeah, what else?
What else did you have for us

1035
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,240
tonight?
I know you said you had a list

1036
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,160
of things.
Oh, man, I love the

1037
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,800
participation by YouTube.
Right now their chat is is

1038
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,560
blowing up.
It's, it's amazing because we

1039
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,560
don't like I said, we don't get
a lot of people watching on

1040
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:31,680
YouTube, especially the live
shows, but we do get a lot of

1041
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,080
people watching the, the reruns
or the, you know, the on demand

1042
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,120
stuff where they could just
click on an episode and watch

1043
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,440
it.
But I mean, we are.

1044
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,080
Yeah, no, I noticed your
subscriber amount went up a lot

1045
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:44,960
since the interviews, so they
probably.

1046
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:50,480
Yeah, the the the the Gareth Ike
episode are where you were on

1047
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:53,480
with him really propelled our
YouTube presence.

1048
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,320
It's been great.
By the way, your episode with us

1049
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:02,640
has over 1500 viewing hours
attached to it now, which is

1050
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,520
amazing.
So thank you for that.

1051
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:07,560
Oh, no.
Are you frozen?

1052
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:13,200
She was going to the list.
Everybody, I have you double on

1053
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,880
here now, is that going to kick
over to?

1054
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:16,960
What?
There's two of them.

1055
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,360
I see two of you on on my screen
on Riverside at least.

1056
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:23,840
I can hear your voice double as
well.

1057
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:28,720
I don't know why it's.
Oh no, whatever looks like looks

1058
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,760
like.
It's still working.

1059
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,680
OK, All right.
I do have a lot.

1060
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,440
I have a lot to talk about and
I'm like looking at everything

1061
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:45,120
and I'm like overwhelmed.
OK, so I just got to like #1 on

1062
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,160
the list, which is how do they
select targets?

1063
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,000
I hope that that was concise
enough.

1064
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,080
If anyone has any questions
about that, please go ahead.

1065
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:58,080
And now very briefly on how they
do rituals on these individuals.

1066
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,400
Now, of course you have.
This isn't my case, but you have

1067
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,560
people being physically brought
into rituals that can be in

1068
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,200
underground facilities, it can
be at people's private homes,

1069
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,600
and it can even be done in
hotels.

1070
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:14,800
They'll have specific hotels
where things like this can can

1071
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,360
be done, and it's usually in a
kind of quiet hotel.

1072
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:23,240
And they often have a certain
kind of paintings on the walls

1073
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:27,160
that might be reminiscent of
either the occult or sexual

1074
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,840
abuse and things like that, or
mind control symbolism, stuff

1075
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,800
like that.
So we'll have specific hotels

1076
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,840
where the, the person running
the hotel knows what's going on

1077
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,240
and they'll do rituals in these
hotels.

1078
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,680
Some of the people like me, the
targets, depending on, you know,

1079
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:49,160
their particular situation, they
can be sent either into a trance

1080
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:54,960
or they can be drugged, or they
can be basically unconscious or

1081
01:04:54,960 --> 01:04:58,160
sent into a dissociative state.
So they have no memory of what's

1082
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,160
going on.
And they can be brought into

1083
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:04,880
these rituals and used within
these rituals for their for

1084
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:08,640
their energy, let's say.
But when you bring in someone

1085
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:13,600
who has a very powerful spirit,
soul or energy, it's useful for

1086
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,600
their ceremonies and rituals.
And in my personal opinion, most

1087
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,440
of the groups that do these
rituals, they're all full of

1088
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,160
shit.
They think they're doing some

1089
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:25,360
kind of high special magic, but
they're all just a bunch of

1090
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:29,640
assholes.
And it's very few occult groups

1091
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,840
that are actually doing very
serious high magic.

1092
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:38,720
A lot of these people are just
bored, perverted old fucks who

1093
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,680
just want something to do.
And yes, there is energy and

1094
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,160
spirituality and there are.
There's magic going on, but it's

1095
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,280
not of a high order.
It's a very lowly order,

1096
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,640
especially when you find these
sort of these sort of cult like

1097
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:59,440
groups in these small villages
in the middle of nowhere because

1098
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,440
they're everywhere.
These cults, they're, it can be

1099
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,760
in a, in a village, up a
mountain in the middle of

1100
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,560
nowhere where you would least
expect it, but there'll be

1101
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,640
signs, you know, there'll be
signs.

1102
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,960
So there's that aspect.
But then on someone like me who

1103
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:16,520
I don't, I don't have the
dissociative aspect.

1104
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:19,760
Maybe there was one or two times
in my life where I was taking

1105
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,520
without my knowledge.
But if they're going to do

1106
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,680
rituals on me, it's either been
in like an apartment that I was

1107
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,320
staying at, They'll rent out the
apartment next door and they'll

1108
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,360
do a ritual next to me or within
a hotel, I'll be staying at a

1109
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,240
hotel.
And they would have planned this

1110
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,000
in advance and they would have
brought people into the hotel to

1111
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,240
do the ritual in another room
with me close.

1112
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:47,320
But then, of course, you don't
actually need to be in physical

1113
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:53,800
proximity when you're asleep.
They can call to you, they can

1114
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,880
call to you, and they can summon
your consciousness within a

1115
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:03,160
ritual and utilize your energy
for their particular ritual.

1116
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,240
So another aspect that we spoke
about in the previous podcast

1117
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:14,720
with you was how the network
functions and where they get

1118
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,880
various practitioners and
occultists.

1119
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:23,120
So you'll have very important,
powerful occult groups who

1120
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:27,120
really know what they're doing
and they're sort of at the

1121
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,120
centre and there's more than one
across the world, but they're

1122
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,000
sort of at the centre of
wherever they are.

1123
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,600
And then you have a lot of
various occult groups and

1124
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:42,440
schools and groups and where,
you know, even in my local town,

1125
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,800
they'll have my local city,
they'll have, you'll find these

1126
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,200
pamphlets around that are like
inviting young students to come

1127
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:54,080
and try gnosis and Gnostic magic
and stuff like that.

1128
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:57,160
We'll invite you and, and then
they have a lot of useful

1129
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,240
people, useful people that they
can say, OK, we're, we're

1130
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,120
learning how to do gnosis or
we're learning how to do magic.

1131
01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:05,680
We're learning how to do psychic
abilities and stuff like that in

1132
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:10,600
our little course.
It's all very innocent, but the

1133
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,840
person within the, within the
course or within a group or the

1134
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,240
teacher or the master, they're
connected to this network.

1135
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,760
And if some higher up within the
network needs to utilize

1136
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,880
someone, some individual for
some lower kind of work to say,

1137
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:28,399
for example, magically groom an
individual in a certain way,

1138
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,840
they can contact one of the
people within one of these

1139
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,359
groups where they're learning
how to develop psychic power.

1140
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:42,279
And the teacher will go, hey, I
want you to do a exercise, a

1141
01:08:42,279 --> 01:08:45,200
particular exercise.
I'd like you to go to the bridge

1142
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,960
and I'd like you at, at this
specific hour and I'd like you

1143
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,359
to tune in to this specific
person and they'll give them a

1144
01:08:52,359 --> 01:08:55,120
name and or they'll give a
photograph.

1145
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:58,040
I'd like you to tune in on this
particular person and I'd like

1146
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,520
you to call them to you.
And they'll send their student

1147
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,319
off to the bridge and the
student will go there and

1148
01:09:05,319 --> 01:09:08,080
they'll go into their, whatever
it is, meditation or trance or

1149
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,439
imaginative process.
And they'll start calling this

1150
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,880
person energetically.
And sometimes it can work and

1151
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,160
sometimes it cannot work.
If the target is someone who's

1152
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:20,279
very psychically in tune,
they'll go there.

1153
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,960
They'll think, huh, I want to
walk to the bridge.

1154
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,680
I'm I don't know why, I just
want to walk to the bridge.

1155
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:28,439
They're basically, it's thought
transference basically.

1156
01:09:29,319 --> 01:09:35,520
So they can use useful idiots
for exercises like that on

1157
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:40,120
targets that they want to keep
up with on a regular basis.

1158
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:42,680
But the people, the higher ups
who are interested in that

1159
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:48,080
person don't obviously they have
lives, you know, So I hope this

1160
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,960
is making sense.
But to give an idea of how Avast

1161
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:56,480
the network is and how that
those aspects work.

1162
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,640
And then you have different
levels of practitioners, right?

1163
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:04,800
You have the higher ups who are
are very well versed in magic

1164
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,360
and know exactly what they're
doing.

1165
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:12,640
And then you have various
skilled witches, psychics and

1166
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,360
seers and things like that that
they can use for various

1167
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:18,160
purposes who are outside of the
higher group.

1168
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,360
They don't take part in rituals,
they don't show up to the

1169
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,480
meetings, but they're important
contacts.

1170
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,880
And then the lower level people
would be the ones like I

1171
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,320
mentioned the the student that
was sent on a certain task.

1172
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:36,760
And then the kinds of people
that they use, they have low

1173
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,800
vibratory people and they have
high vibratory people depending

1174
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:41,880
on what kind of outcome they
want.

1175
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:47,040
So they can use mentally ill
people and they can use disabled

1176
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:52,280
people because these people
generate a lot of negative

1177
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:56,040
energy.
They use them for generating

1178
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,440
negative energy.
They use them for attracting

1179
01:10:58,440 --> 01:11:01,560
demonic and low vibratory
entities.

1180
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:04,760
They use them either within
rituals or within targeting

1181
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,560
certain individuals
energetically and spiritually.

1182
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:11,160
And then they can have people
who are very high vibratory

1183
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:14,280
people who are actually very
beautiful, wonderful,

1184
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,880
incredible, amazing psychics and
seers.

1185
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:22,200
And they use them when they want
to inspire something within

1186
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:25,320
someone.
And usually this high vibratory

1187
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,920
practitioner does not realize
they are working for the

1188
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,360
network.
They are think they are doing a

1189
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:35,920
favour for a friend.
So different levels of useful

1190
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,800
individuals for a hierarchy
within the network.

1191
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,520
And then they have different,
you have the different methods

1192
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,560
of magic, you have things sort
of like voodoo.

1193
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,400
I won't say it's voodoo, but
it's what we associate voodoo

1194
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:58,280
with, you know, like shrines,
candles, animal sacrifice, pins

1195
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,440
and things like that and all of
that.

1196
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,400
You can have individuals who
focus on doing that type of

1197
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,040
magic.
Then you have individuals who do

1198
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,360
ceremonial magic, which is
usually more than one person,

1199
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,080
but can be one person on their
own.

1200
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,160
The ceremonial magic is the kind
of classic, what you would

1201
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:19,760
consider Crowley and magic,
where they draw the circle and

1202
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:24,520
they have a dagger and they have
certain words that they chant to

1203
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,000
certain gobs and things like
that.

1204
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,760
And then you have trance and
meditation where a person is

1205
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,600
either on their own or in a
group and they just go into a

1206
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,120
trance.
They go into meditation.

1207
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:39,320
Every group, every practitioner
has their own thing.

1208
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:42,720
And then of course, you have the
astral travel, which can happen

1209
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,880
when you lay down and you leave
your body or you have the remote

1210
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,560
viewing.
And the remote viewing is very

1211
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,720
interesting because when you're
seeking to, to target someone

1212
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,520
energetically and, and
magically.

1213
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:58,480
But before I go into that, one
of the training methods for

1214
01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:03,160
remote viewing, well, just for
building up spiritual abilities

1215
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,760
in general, is learning how to
transfer your consciousness into

1216
01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:11,200
objects or animals.
So you'll go into meditation and

1217
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,120
you'll, you'll learn how to,
you'll focus on transferring

1218
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,520
your consciousness into this,
into this jar of honey.

1219
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:21,600
And you'll imagine seeing the
room around you from that jar of

1220
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:26,000
honey's perspective.
And you'll do that with things

1221
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,480
around you.
And then you can do it with a

1222
01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:30,640
tree.
And then you'll move up to

1223
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:34,440
practicing with animals to
transfer your consciousness into

1224
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:38,440
animals, which is something
that's well known with

1225
01:13:38,440 --> 01:13:41,600
mythology.
You know, the witch who

1226
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,080
transfers her consciousness into
a crow?

1227
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,280
Yeah, a lot of a lot of birds, a
lot of them.

1228
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,360
Yeah, birds.
And then you have the whole

1229
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,440
thing about werewolves where it
was some dark sorcerers

1230
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:55,480
transferring their consciousness
into wolves so that they could

1231
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:59,640
go and satiate their desire to
munch on that.

1232
01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,840
That particular I took from this
particular kind of story I've

1233
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,600
taken from the book that you've
got.

1234
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,480
There's a section in there about
werewolves that you might find

1235
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,960
fun.
Anyway, so where was it going?

1236
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,840
Transferring the consciousness
into objects, into things to

1237
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,280
build up your spiritual
abilities and awareness and your

1238
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,080
psychic abilities.
Now, when you're targeting an

1239
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:26,360
individual to either gain
control over them spiritually or

1240
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:30,360
to harvest their energy or turn
them into a battery, you can use

1241
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:35,480
that kind of remote viewing or
transferable consciousness going

1242
01:14:35,480 --> 01:14:38,360
into their body.
You want to transfer your

1243
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:43,000
consciousness into into.
You can't take over someone's

1244
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:48,720
body, not without very hardcore,
serious, continuous work.

1245
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,160
It's a lot of work because you
have to breakthrough all of the

1246
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,440
barriers, all of the spiritual
bodies.

1247
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,120
You have to put holes through
them.

1248
01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:57,440
You have to bring them down
lower.

1249
01:14:57,440 --> 01:15:00,320
Vibratory.
We have natural defense

1250
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,880
mechanisms around us, but they
can get to a certain stage of

1251
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,400
degradation through this process
where they can transfer their

1252
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:11,560
consciousness into certain
organs of yours and certain

1253
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:15,520
chakras within your body.
And those would be exercises to

1254
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:20,880
slowly, eventually the goal is
to have as much control over you

1255
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:27,800
as possible and to disconnect
your human consciousness from

1256
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:31,640
your soul consciousness.
And this goes back into the idea

1257
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:35,720
of selling your soul, because
human being is supposed to be

1258
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,200
more or less guided by their
soul, which is guided by God.

1259
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:46,120
And if you can muck up all of
the various things that we have

1260
01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,400
in place to connect us to our
soul, that guidance is not so

1261
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:54,160
easily given.
So they want to replace the

1262
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,600
guidance from your soul with the
guidance from the occultist.

1263
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:01,040
That's the closest thing you can
get to selling your soul.

1264
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:05,880
Your soul is still there, but
they've pushed it down into this

1265
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:11,040
as far away from your physical
consciousness as possible.

1266
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,320
And then they've taken that that
role of guidance.

1267
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:22,560
So now occultly and magically,
they can send you, they can send

1268
01:16:22,560 --> 01:16:26,240
you ideas, they can, they can
tell you where to go and tell

1269
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,920
you what to think through
magical means.

1270
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:33,280
Now, of course you can do this
with mind control technology as

1271
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:38,880
well, but I think the mind
control stuff, if it's done to a

1272
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,560
real extent, that it's doing all
of those things as well.

1273
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,000
It's breaking you down
spiritually.

1274
01:16:44,160 --> 01:16:47,240
And I don't think that the mind
control really works without the

1275
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:48,960
degradation of the spirit
bodies.

1276
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:53,600
Any questions?
Yes, it got a bunch.

1277
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,560
Let's see, just working from the
bottom up.

1278
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,080
One from YouTube.
Can you ask her if they use

1279
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,480
drugs and addicts for harvesting
and as conduits or portals?

1280
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:07,440
I think of people who use
methamphetamine and the shadow

1281
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:11,200
people they commonly see.
It's actually a great question.

1282
01:17:12,440 --> 01:17:18,920
Well, yes, that could be very
possible because drug addiction

1283
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:25,080
you generate a lot of chaotic
energy and they utilize this

1284
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,200
chaotic energy and their own
magic.

1285
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:29,720
So yes, that's that's very
possible.

1286
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:33,040
As I said that they use mentally
ill people, There could be drugs

1287
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:37,480
involved as well.
When I say they use mentally ill

1288
01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:40,400
people, I mean really they'll
they'll bring in someone who's

1289
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,600
very mentally ill into a cult
like setting.

1290
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,560
They'll teach them spiritual
practices, ceremonial magic and,

1291
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,040
and things like that, knowing
that that person is deeply

1292
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:58,520
disturbed and that they will
generate a lot of negative

1293
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:02,680
energy.
And it's like you have a, a

1294
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,560
toolkit.
You're, you're one of these

1295
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,400
elites.
You have a toolkit.

1296
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,280
Who do I need to use today?
This very mentally disturbed

1297
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,280
individual with very negative
things surrounding them who's

1298
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:20,160
also has knowledge of magic?
Or do I need a, a very high

1299
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:25,040
vibratory, spiritually sound
individual for the work that I

1300
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,680
wish to achieve in this
particular goal?

1301
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,680
So they have this vast toolkit
of different kinds of

1302
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,360
individuals that they can
utilize for their occult

1303
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,800
purposes, which is just, it's
nuts.

1304
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,640
Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of
connections made here.

1305
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,960
Last time you were on, we talked
heavily or briefly but heavily

1306
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:48,800
on the concept of the chakra and
how the sexual chakra was often

1307
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:53,640
manipulated by some of these
people within the network in

1308
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:58,880
order to gain control.
So I'm seeing a lot of

1309
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:03,320
connections there and.
So the chakra, the lower chakra,

1310
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:07,560
it's the animal nature of the
human being.

1311
01:19:08,440 --> 01:19:11,560
And our purpose as human beings
is to transcend out of our

1312
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,640
animal nature into a higher
consciousness.

1313
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:17,080
What is our animal nature?
Our animal nature is our

1314
01:19:17,080 --> 01:19:22,680
immediate pleasures.
Thirsts, hungers, desires are in

1315
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:27,440
the immediate things that we can
to get to satiate ourselves.

1316
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:30,440
Those are our lower animal
desires and natures.

1317
01:19:30,440 --> 01:19:34,160
And the sex proper is is that is
precisely that.

1318
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,600
Or it could be the one.
Maybe the sexual is the second

1319
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:38,720
one.
I don't know, I can't remember.

1320
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,760
So like a like a primitive kind
of thing, the basic ones.

1321
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,960
Yeah, OK.
The animal nature within man.

1322
01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,840
Eat.
Yeah, fuck, drink and be merry,

1323
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:51,480
right?
And we are supposed to transcend

1324
01:19:51,480 --> 01:19:56,160
that, to have higher experiences
and be more intellectual and

1325
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,840
more compassionate, more
spiritual.

1326
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:02,360
We're supposed to stop and think
before we act and not just act

1327
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,560
and be like, I'm going to take
that because I need that now.

1328
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,240
I want it.
I want that food now.

1329
01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:09,120
You know, you have to think 1st
and you have to be conscious of

1330
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,680
what you're doing.
So the lower lower chakra.

1331
01:20:15,480 --> 01:20:18,640
That's where they get into your
animal nature, because it's the

1332
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:23,600
easiest point of attack.
You know, everyone wants sex.

1333
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:27,320
You know everyone wants food,
everyone enjoys food and sex.

1334
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:34,360
So can we distort and twist and
pervert their sexual nature, and

1335
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:38,200
then through that perversion and
distortion that we've instilled

1336
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:41,320
in them, manipulate them and
guide them towards even more

1337
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:45,640
perverse and corrupt things?
And that's the point of a lot of

1338
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,400
the abuse.
Introducing a lot of this abuse

1339
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,680
at a young age perverts the mind
so that you have more perverted

1340
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:56,960
desires and needs and a way to
control you through that.

1341
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:02,200
So all connected.
I do have a question here that I

1342
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,680
believe was asked twice.
Are the locations used for

1343
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:06,920
programming on certain Ley
lines?

1344
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:12,560
Are you familiar with Ley lines?
I haven't thought about this but

1345
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:18,200
I would say absolutely yes.
Absolutely yes.

1346
01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:23,320
Because it's not just Ley lines,
it's any, any place that

1347
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,640
generates some kind of power.
Maybe Ley lines have a

1348
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:30,400
particular use or purpose.
My grandparents house is on a

1349
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,640
Ley line and well it's very hard
to sleep there.

1350
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:38,200
You're woken up.
You're woken up throughout the

1351
01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,840
night and you're woken up like
multiple times throughout the

1352
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:44,280
night.
It's a nightmare.

1353
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,840
So I guess depending on what
purpose the ceremony is for,

1354
01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:52,640
they'll use it on Ley lines or
various energetic places.

1355
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,640
Very interesting.
And I do apologize if I'm if I'm

1356
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:58,720
getting away from some people's
questions here at chats going

1357
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,520
pretty quick and I'm waiting for
open times to ask questions.

1358
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:04,480
So I apologize if I skipped over
a few.

1359
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:06,720
Coco, do you have anything else
that you would like to put out

1360
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,000
today?
How far along are we?

1361
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:13,520
We're at an hour and 45 minutes.
Wow.

1362
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,040
So the usefulness of the
targets, we talked about the

1363
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,480
usefulness of the practitioners.
We didn't talk about the

1364
01:22:21,480 --> 01:22:23,680
usefulness of the targets, and
not in detail.

1365
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:29,840
So some targets have a high
vibratory energy.

1366
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:38,240
So say you have a child who's
born into a family of occultists

1367
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:44,680
and the cult aspect is secret,
it's not known to the child and

1368
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:50,880
that child was born special with
a very powerful soul and energy,

1369
01:22:50,920 --> 01:22:55,440
very beautiful shining light
inside them.

1370
01:22:55,520 --> 01:23:00,360
That child will be brought into
the ceremonies and rituals to

1371
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,760
connect them to the divine and
utilise the divine energy within

1372
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,360
the child for their rituals.
Not just a child, but as they

1373
01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:12,840
grow older and depending on how
things go, the child can be the

1374
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,400
adult can consciously join the
cult or they can continue to be

1375
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:21,000
used against their knowledge.
So that's the purpose of high

1376
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,640
vibratory soul.
And then you have low vibratory

1377
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,400
souls, low vibratory people
targets.

1378
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:33,080
They can be utilized for
specific purposes as well

1379
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:36,320
depending on what they need.
Usefulness aspect is also the

1380
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,760
mind control aspect kind of
already spoke about that, I

1381
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:43,240
guess, where they get into your
mind and are able to direct you

1382
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,840
and depending on, you know, if
if you're in their entertainment

1383
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,360
or if you're in politics or
there's something useful about

1384
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:54,520
you.
And then there's the aspect of

1385
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:59,120
being a battery.
Now this is my personal

1386
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,480
experience.
I have a lot of energy and I can

1387
01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:06,920
be used as a as a battery.
And this is going into another

1388
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,000
very interesting thing,
consciousness Agrigore.

1389
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:15,320
So there's this whole aspect of
the cult group where they can

1390
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,080
create what is known as an
Agrigore.

1391
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,280
You can look up Mark Stavish
wrote a book on this.

1392
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:26,080
And Agrigore is basically a sort
of living entity that's created

1393
01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:30,000
from the combined thoughts of a
group of people.

1394
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:35,840
Now these are created naturally,
organically, but they are also

1395
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,280
created consciously by occult
groups.

1396
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,320
So they'll have this sort of
this realm of consciousness

1397
01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:46,520
where they all connect.
So within the movie Doctor

1398
01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:50,600
Sleep, when these people entered
into the minds of the other

1399
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,840
person, when they were astral
projecting or yeah, astral

1400
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:59,280
projecting, they go into their
mind world, their dream world,

1401
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:03,000
and everyone has a different
mind world, dream world that

1402
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:08,320
relates to them, right?
It looks different and it holds

1403
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:11,440
your memories and it holds your
experiences and your feelings.

1404
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:19,040
And the occult group, what they
do is they, they basically open

1405
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:23,320
up this portal and all of the
people connected to the group,

1406
01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:27,920
they jump through this portal
and they leave behind their old

1407
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,400
sort of astral realms, dream
realms, and enter into this new

1408
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,840
one where it's a combination of
all of theirs.

1409
01:25:34,840 --> 01:25:41,560
And there's a lot of demonic
activity, a lot of entities

1410
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:46,480
involved in that, in creating
this group mind, this group

1411
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:50,280
consciousness.
And So what they can do with the

1412
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:55,040
target over time, eventually, is
that they can call that target

1413
01:25:55,120 --> 01:26:00,120
through astral projection or
entering your dreams in through

1414
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:04,120
that portal into their realm of
consciousness.

1415
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:09,280
So basically, you leave behind
what your dream realm has been

1416
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,320
your entire life and you enter
into theirs.

1417
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:16,920
And once you enter into that
realm, it's, if it's a group of

1418
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:22,800
deranged, let's say satanic
occultists, it's horrific.

1419
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,680
It's a horrific realm to enter
into because the imagination

1420
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:32,040
knows no bounds, you know?
So when you get into the

1421
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,640
imagination of sick, perverted,
demented people and astral

1422
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:40,000
projection and outer body
experience feels just as real as

1423
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,320
this right now.
It's a different experience, but

1424
01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:46,960
it feels just as real.
So imagine.

1425
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:50,920
Imagine going into that realm of
consciousness in an outer body

1426
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,520
experience or astral projection,
and experiencing that realm of a

1427
01:26:54,520 --> 01:27:00,520
pure diversity and horror and
being caught up in that realm.

1428
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:07,280
And within that realm, they're
obviously generating a lot of

1429
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:11,920
chaotic energy.
And when you bring someone who

1430
01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:16,360
has a very powerful
electromagnetic, magnetic energy

1431
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:21,000
about them into your egregore of
consciousness, you're feeding

1432
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:26,400
that group's occult palace.
And that's precisely what they

1433
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,760
did to me.
And then there's another aspect

1434
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:32,600
of you can puppeteer someone's
astral body.

1435
01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:34,600
You can puppeteer someone
etheric.

1436
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:41,120
So basically you can program
their astral body to carry out

1437
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:44,640
certain tasks within the astral
realm.

1438
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,920
You can, I don't know, say, I
don't know if I can give an

1439
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,320
example right now.
I think that's enough what I

1440
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,800
just said there.
OK.

1441
01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:57,120
The realm that you were
referring to is this similar to

1442
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,560
let's say like something where
people would visit during a

1443
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,560
psychedelic trip such as like
DMT or?

1444
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,520
I know psilocybin technically
isn't along the same lines, no.

1445
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,400
No, not really.
OK.

1446
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:13,480
Because you see the actual
realm, it's an incredibly vast

1447
01:28:13,480 --> 01:28:15,560
realm and there's so many
different layers to it and so

1448
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,240
many different pockets within
it.

1449
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:22,560
And you can, within the astral
realm, build a world.

1450
01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:26,320
You can build a house in the
astral realm through your

1451
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,760
imagination, if you have a
powerful enough imagination.

1452
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,000
And if you have knowledge of
magic, knowledge of how to use

1453
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:36,800
the elements to accumulate
energy within the

1454
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,320
interdimensional realms, you can
build houses and palaces.

1455
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:44,440
You can build worlds within
worlds within worlds, depending

1456
01:28:44,440 --> 01:28:48,280
on how skilled you are.
And we do this naturally with

1457
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,400
our own imagination and our own
dreams.

1458
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:53,320
We do this naturally, we create
these realms, we create these

1459
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,840
worlds.
And if you're astral projecting,

1460
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,480
you can enter into other
people's worlds and see them

1461
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:01,440
consciously.
Consciously you can create these

1462
01:29:01,440 --> 01:29:04,360
realms.
And now going into trips, you

1463
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:08,600
know, either with, with or
without drugs, going into these

1464
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,000
trips where you're transcending
into different dimensions.

1465
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:17,280
I like to think that most people
are entering into a more general

1466
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:21,280
dimension where they're where
they're seeing the inner

1467
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,640
workings of the universe and
nature.

1468
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:29,000
And because the astral realm is
so infinitely vast, you could

1469
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,000
really enter anywhere.
You could enter into any being's

1470
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,560
astral realm or something like
that.

1471
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,600
I'd say to get into these realms
that are created specifically by

1472
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:41,320
occult groups.
It's something very hard to do

1473
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:44,600
because they're guarded and
protected and gated.

1474
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:49,680
And then to get into how what
are the methods for creating

1475
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:54,520
these realms within the astral,
they have to understand that the

1476
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,520
imagination isn't something
arbitrary.

1477
01:29:57,960 --> 01:30:02,520
The imagination is a powerful
tool, and that's not something

1478
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,240
that you just see on a bumper
sticker.

1479
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,960
It's literally the source of all
magic.

1480
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,760
Imagine the universe as one big
imagination.

1481
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:14,440
Imagine God as one big
imagination that thought

1482
01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:18,480
everything into existence
through its imaginative

1483
01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:21,760
capacity.
That would mean that our

1484
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:26,520
imagination holds the same power
as the creator of all things in

1485
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:30,320
the universe.
Imagine the universe as one big

1486
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:34,080
massive mind, and that this
physical realm is the furthest

1487
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:40,320
thing from the truth, and that
to get closer to that true realm

1488
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,000
where everything comes from,
enter into the mind.

1489
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,440
Enter into the imagination.
Very, very interesting concepts.

1490
01:30:46,440 --> 01:30:50,800
We've, we've talked a lot, a lot
about similar things.

1491
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:55,720
We're I'm going to, I'm going to
stay away from that because we

1492
01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,400
would have another two hour
conversation on that alone, I

1493
01:30:58,400 --> 01:30:59,880
think.
That's I think I've said enough.

1494
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:03,280
I mean whatever you want to ask.
Well, I got.

1495
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:07,200
I got, I got a question from
somebody on Twitch, a spectrum

1496
01:31:07,200 --> 01:31:10,160
assassin who wants to know what
about someone who's been able to

1497
01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:13,760
travel and dream since a young
age, having wild dreams that

1498
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,920
have never been seen before.
So it couldn't be a conjuring of

1499
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:20,880
the subconscious.
It means that when he traveled

1500
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:26,240
in his dreams, he's seen places
that he'd never seen before, so

1501
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,200
it has to be something coming
from someone, somewhere else.

1502
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:34,080
Is that what he's trying to say?
Spectrum if you could clarify

1503
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:39,200
the question I could I could re
re ask or if you could answer

1504
01:31:39,200 --> 01:31:42,680
her question I got somebody from
YouTube asking was your

1505
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,240
grandfather a victim of the
program again if you're not

1506
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,080
comfortable answering certain
things just.

1507
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:49,520
Well, you know.
Perfectly fine.

1508
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:54,120
I I want to respect my
grandparents privacy in a way.

1509
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:56,520
I haven't even spoken about
these things with them.

1510
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:01,840
I think I've mentioned enough
that I've seen things done

1511
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:08,280
around them and I have to really
think properly about about that

1512
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:12,280
before I say anything else on
it.

1513
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:17,280
Yeah, no problem, No problem.
I I understand it.

1514
01:32:17,480 --> 01:32:20,280
I'm sure they do too.
Let's see, Spectrum on Twitch

1515
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,400
got back to us.
Like I had a dream of Cthulhu

1516
01:32:23,400 --> 01:32:25,960
off in the distance of a
cityscape.

1517
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:31,240
Had never heard of Cthulhu
before then or seen anything on

1518
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,880
TV of it.
So Cthulhu would be that.

1519
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,800
If he's talking about the same
thing, it'd be that the creature

1520
01:32:37,800 --> 01:32:42,240
thought up by HP Lovecraft.
Well, HP Lovecraft was

1521
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:47,680
definitely a magician and he was
definitely astral projecting.

1522
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,440
He was definitely, he was
definitely going to other

1523
01:32:50,440 --> 01:32:52,600
routes.
Percent that those are not just

1524
01:32:52,600 --> 01:32:54,880
stories what that guy is talking
about.

1525
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,720
Yeah.
As for the names, now, maybe the

1526
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:03,120
name is really coming from
interdimensional realm and it's

1527
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:07,440
come out and he's heard the
name, but As for most entities,

1528
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:12,320
they have multiple names.
They have many names and it

1529
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:16,240
comes from differently depending
on who the entity is talking to,

1530
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:19,840
but it can use the same name and
that realm.

1531
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:24,400
If HP Lovecraft had tuned in on
that realm and seen this

1532
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:29,320
creature and heard this creature
and then wrote about it,

1533
01:33:29,640 --> 01:33:33,120
Obviously the power of the
imagination of all of the people

1534
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:38,640
that read it contribute to the
graphic nature of what you're

1535
01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:41,240
going to see.
If you're able to tune in on

1536
01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:44,000
that.
And this is going back to the

1537
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,520
CIA military programs in the
United States of remote viewing.

1538
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,080
They want to see inside a safe
inside a top secret location.

1539
01:33:52,160 --> 01:33:54,840
They can.
You want to see inside an

1540
01:33:54,840 --> 01:34:01,560
interdimensional realm to A to a
interdimensional entity that's

1541
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,760
thousands of years old, you can.
We all have that capacity.

1542
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:09,440
So it would be let's just use
the example of the safe for a

1543
01:34:09,440 --> 01:34:11,280
second.
And because a lot of people in

1544
01:34:11,280 --> 01:34:15,160
the chat over in YouTube are
saying connections with like the

1545
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,960
upside down from the show
Stranger Things.

1546
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:21,600
So if we were to use that as the
example, who, what do you got

1547
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:23,360
there?
We call these Dum Dums.

1548
01:34:23,480 --> 01:34:26,640
There's there's thousands of
them and we don't know what to

1549
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,080
do about it.
They're little beetles.

1550
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,920
They're just everywhere all the
time.

1551
01:34:29,920 --> 01:34:31,920
I think we, I think we have
those in Wisconsin too.

1552
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:40,320
But let's say like if you, the
government or whatever entity

1553
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:45,320
wanted to see inside of a inside
of a safe, right, they would

1554
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:50,560
project into the astral realm,
physically move about, which

1555
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,840
would correlate to the physical
realm that we're in now.

1556
01:34:55,480 --> 01:35:00,360
And then at will pop in and out
between the two realms.

1557
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:04,240
So let's say if they know, what
do you got?

1558
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:07,120
In those programs, for those
specific purposes, they're not

1559
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:10,680
going into the astral realm.
The astral realm, isn't it

1560
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,640
crazy?
It's a crazy realm where

1561
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:17,640
anything, anything can appear to
you and it can appear in all

1562
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,640
kinds of crazy ways.
They're doing remote viewing,

1563
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:26,520
which is using the mental body,
not the astral body, the mental

1564
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,800
body.
So they're going to see things

1565
01:35:31,440 --> 01:35:34,720
in a way that correlates to the
physical realm.

1566
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:41,640
If you use the astral body,
sure, you could achieve it if

1567
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,280
you're skilled, but you never
really know if what you're

1568
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,480
seeing in the astral realm is
what you're actually seeing in

1569
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:49,000
in the real world.
You would want to use your your

1570
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,960
mental vehicle.
We have a mind body, we have an

1571
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:53,880
astral body, we have a spirit
body.

1572
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,520
You have various bodies.
The mind bodies is the closest

1573
01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:01,160
thing to your.
So your soul doesn't really feel

1574
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:02,920
feelings.
It's moral.

1575
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,880
The soul is moral, but it
doesn't really feel feelings.

1576
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:07,960
It doesn't feel pleasure or
pain.

1577
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,720
It's more of a real mind, a real
intellect.

1578
01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,440
It's where the reason comes
from, the soul.

1579
01:36:15,120 --> 01:36:18,320
So when you're remote viewing,
you're using this mind, you're

1580
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:21,360
using the lower mind that's
connected to me to the Earth.

1581
01:36:22,680 --> 01:36:25,760
So different ways of perceiving.
Interesting.

1582
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:28,600
We're going to dive into that
more when you come back.

1583
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,720
Does I think Jeff is going to
have a lot of really good

1584
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,560
questions for you on that one.
That's more of Jeff's realm.

1585
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:37,520
That's the whole purpose of this
podcast, right?

1586
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,560
We all specialize in certain
things and and Jeff is the guy

1587
01:36:40,560 --> 01:36:42,920
to really dive into that one.
Yeah, I miss.

1588
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,800
I miss Jeff.
We we miss you, Jeff.

1589
01:36:46,440 --> 01:36:49,760
So we'll, we'll, we'll get Jeff
back on for the next 1.

1590
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,240
He was supposed to be here
tonight, but something came up

1591
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:55,040
and you know, we're all human.
Well, I hope he's having fun

1592
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:59,000
whatever, wherever he is.
I'm sure, I'm sure he is.

1593
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:02,120
I I hope he's getting tired.
This is most of his bedtime.

1594
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:07,520
So OK, he he wouldn't be able to
last at 3:00 in the morning.

1595
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:10,560
He'd he'd be done done.
No, it's.

1596
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,080
But before we close out, was
there anything else that you

1597
01:37:15,080 --> 01:37:17,560
wanted to put out?
Not that I can think about.

1598
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:23,160
I mean, everything that I said,
we could go into way more detail

1599
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,920
about every single aspect,
right?

1600
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:30,120
I just don't know how to do that
effectively yet.

1601
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,000
I'm just, I'm doing my best.
I'm trying to go into as much

1602
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:36,600
detail as I can, but I'm nervous
and I don't know what the fuck

1603
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:38,840
I'm doing.
So I try.

1604
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:40,520
I don't know, I'm trying my
best.

1605
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,200
One step at a time, one step at
a time.

1606
01:37:43,480 --> 01:37:44,880
I think you're, you're on the
right path.

1607
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:46,360
You're doing a lot of really
cool things.

1608
01:37:46,440 --> 01:37:49,920
You're, you're taking it slow,
which I, I respect it.

1609
01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:54,400
There's, there's a lot to lot to
unravel here and it doesn't need

1610
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,960
to be hasteful.
Just take your time.

1611
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,040
But you're always welcome to
come back on the show, always

1612
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:03,200
welcome.
And I'd, I, I hope to see you

1613
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:07,320
back on here again so we can
delve into this astral body

1614
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,520
stuff because I think there's,
there's a whole another episode

1615
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:13,320
just just in that alone.
It's very fascinating.

1616
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:18,360
Now we should spend a full
episode talking about mind

1617
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,160
control.
Yes.

1618
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:23,400
Not the spiritual aspect.
The.

1619
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,760
You know the hardcore mind
control aspect and technology.

1620
01:38:28,000 --> 01:38:31,440
Because I have some pretty big
shit to reveal.

1621
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:36,000
Good about that.
That that's honestly that's,

1622
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,320
that's more or less the route
that I thought we were going

1623
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:40,480
down tonight.
But that's yes.

1624
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,320
I wanted to start with the
magic.

1625
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:45,560
I wanted to start with the
magic.

1626
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:48,120
I wanted to go into more detail
about the magic because as I

1627
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:51,080
said before, the magic has to
happen.

1628
01:38:51,080 --> 01:38:53,600
So the technology stuff and mind
control stuff to work.

1629
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:57,320
So cool.
In following that line of

1630
01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:00,800
reasoning, we figure out the
magic stuff first together, and

1631
01:39:00,800 --> 01:39:04,440
then we talk about the mind
control stuff and the technology

1632
01:39:04,440 --> 01:39:06,240
stuff.
Perfect, perfect.

1633
01:39:07,440 --> 01:39:10,160
All right, cool.
You're all good then.

1634
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,320
Yeah, I'm good.
All right, you had you brought

1635
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,880
the crowd tonight.
Good stuff.

1636
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:20,200
Thanks, Coco.
If you could just hang out just

1637
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:25,120
for a few minutes after we, we,
we cut off the recording.

1638
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,560
That way I could just make sure
I have your stuff uploaded and

1639
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,920
then I'll let you go to bed
because it's what, 2:00 in the

1640
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:34,200
morning there now.
Well, I've got so much

1641
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:36,600
adrenaline right now, I'm
talking a little bad.

1642
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:38,480
You also drink a whole pot of
tea too.

1643
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,400
Oh, it's not caffeinate
caffeinated tea.

1644
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:42,800
It's I.
Was going to say.

1645
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:47,840
It's a type of red flower and
it's nettle, stinging nettle and

1646
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:49,800
oregano.
Oh man, I see.

1647
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:51,880
I've seen you taking swigs there
and I'm like, oh man, she's

1648
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:55,160
never going to go to sleep.
It's not caffeine, no.

1649
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,320
Well, it's it's always a
pleasure, Coco.

1650
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,680
It really is.
And I love unraveling more of

1651
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:03,800
your story, more of your
knowledge, more of your

1652
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,480
understanding of the world.
It's absolutely fascinating

1653
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:09,160
stuff.
It's difficult to be a podcast

1654
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,840
host when you're here because I
like to just sit here and listen

1655
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:15,080
to you, you know, like, well, it
was nice to be able to hear you

1656
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:19,400
on Gareth Ike show because I got
to kind of sit in the passenger

1657
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,320
seat there and just go along for
the ride.

1658
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:23,800
So you're fascinating and I love
it.

1659
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:25,200
I love it.
Well, I love.

1660
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,480
I love your energy and I love
Jeff's energy.

1661
01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:31,320
I like talking with you guys.
I feel, you know, very

1662
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,200
comfortable.
You guys are very cool.

1663
01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:35,440
So I appreciate, appreciate
that.

1664
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:39,040
Good stuff.
Whoa, Ditto.

1665
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,800
I like seriously amazing stuff
All right, well that has been

1666
01:40:41,800 --> 01:40:43,600
another episode of the Infinite
Rabbit Hole podcast.

1667
01:40:43,600 --> 01:40:46,920
Just a few quick announcements.
We have episode 250 coming up

1668
01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,480
here pretty soon, which I do
have a special surprise for

1669
01:40:49,480 --> 01:40:52,800
everybody.
I will be unveiling more

1670
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:57,240
information and a project that
I've been working on for over a

1671
01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,880
year now for episode 250.
Thank you to everybody that took

1672
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:03,160
the time to come out and listen
to this episode.

1673
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,640
Thank you to everybody who came
out just solely for Coco.

1674
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,240
I can.
I can almost guarantee that a

1675
01:41:08,240 --> 01:41:11,840
majority of you did just that,
and I appreciate you coming by

1676
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,200
and asking.
The questions More of his

1677
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,640
episodes.
There's almost 250 of them if

1678
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:19,840
you want to, but they're not all
as high quality as Coco.

1679
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,760
There are some good ones, don't
get me wrong, there's some

1680
01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:24,360
amazing ones, but Coco really
brings the house.

1681
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:28,720
Anyways, thank you everybody,
and until next time, we'll see

1682
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,480
you in the next fork in the path
of the Infinite Rabbit hole.

1683
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:37,560
Bye everybody.
Hey everybody, thanks for

1684
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,720
checking out the Infinite Rabbit
Hole podcast.

1685
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:41,960
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our stuff, head on over to

1686
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:45,320
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1687
01:41:45,320 --> 01:41:48,720
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1688
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:50,760
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1689
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:53,640
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1690
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:56,920
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1691
01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,040
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1692
01:42:00,200 --> 01:42:03,720
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1693
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:05,680
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