Beast of Bray Road Part 1: The Background of the Beast

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Covered in long, dark brown.
Shaggy fur from head to toe and

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describe commonly from 5 to 7
feet.

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Tall went on two legs.
The Beast is considered to be

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the definition of The Mending of
wolf and man it is said to have

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strong well-defined legs knees
that been like those of adults

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and hands.
That resemble an uncanny.

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Make sure minute and Equipment,
all with the head of a German

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shepherd and Claws.
Shredded victims, it would be

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wise to steer clear of the area.
Ray Road at night.

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Those are lucky enough to
witness it.

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Tell if it's incredible speed,
it's terrible attitude and it's

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love for knowing and flesh,
fresh roadkill, careful.

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Now, Elkhorn can be dangerous.
When you're trapped on the side

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of the road with a flat tire and
those that don't heed the

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warnings of a chilled even
harsher, seen something that

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they wish they had.
No, that's my dog.

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No worries that a man that there
was a local werewolf.

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The Beast of Bray Road.
Welcome back to the rabbit hole.

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Welcome back to the infinite
Rabbit Hole.

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I'm your host Jeremy and tonight
we are going to dive into one of

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Wisconsin's.
Best urban legends, the Beast of

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Bray Road, but before we do that
let's go ahead and say hello to

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the other host of the night.
Jacob and Ken's are will start

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Ken's our kids, are how you
doing today?

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I'm good.
Just chilling, you know, hanging

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out.
What do you know, of the Beast

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of Bray Road?
Not a whole lot, to be

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completely honest with you.
It, let's move on.

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Jake, how are you doing?
I'm pretty wiped out, but I'm

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ready to be blown away and I
know pretty much everything

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about the Beast of Bray Road.
Like, I could do this episode

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but I'm gonna let you do it and
laugh at you at your mistakes.

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That's not true at all.
You don't know anything about

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the Beast of Bray Road because I
know some stuff watch on YouTube

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in the last 15 minutes.
Yeah.

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Which was a lot.
I watched all the interviews in

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five minutes and I was like,
that's it.

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Yeah I did the same thing.
Jake did but I was more honest

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about About it.
I know nothing.

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Well that's not more honest.
You know most of it as well.

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We both got this sure we can go
with that.

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Anyways, little bit of
background story on tonight's

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episode today was supposed to be
something different.

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So I can't remember if we had
mentioned, what the next episode

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was going to be on the last one
but Whatever it was is now going

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to be in two weeks because this
is actually going to be a

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two-parter today.
We're going to break this

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episode into the first part
which is going to be the Beast

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of Bray Road and the history of
it as well as a story.

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And then the second part we're
going to dive into stories and

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Encounters of the creature
similar to how we did the Jersey

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Devil episode tonight.
We have someone coming in from

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Good Old Northern Illinois, but
she grew up in southern

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Wisconsin.
It's about 20 minutes away from

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Bray Road in Elkhorn Wisconsin
Caitlin.

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Welcome to the infinite Rabbit
Hole.

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How are you doing, good?
Thanks for inviting me.

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Well, thank you for showing up a
little background.

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Caitlin here, Caitlin is my
wife's best friend.

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My wife also grew up about 20
minutes away from Bray Road and

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I'll tell you something, a
little embarrassing.

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Is that before I joined the
Navy, I actually lived up there

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to of the Kenosha.
I'd say about 30 40 minutes away

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from Um, Elkhorn where Bray Road
is and I never took a trip out.

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The bright Road Caitlin.
Have you seen the Beast?

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I have not.
I might make that our summer

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Adventure me and the kids
driving out there though that

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definitely is worth it.
It's not too far away.

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Kids wave at the werewolf.
We watch all sorts of sci-fi

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stuff in this house though.
They'd be into it.

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Well that wouldn't necessarily
be sci-fi.

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That would just be there.
Well, the The Hunt, The

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Adventure of finding, yes, until
they see it, snapping the head

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off of raccoon on the side of
the road.

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Hey, no one likes raccoons.
I'm just saying she got a point.

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They got to see those hands.
Do you have creepy little hands?

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I try to stay away from him.
I had one jump at me one time.

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Snarling.
And yeah pretty rabid so Caitlin

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ha ha.
Hey, over there.

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What are you laughing?
A boot her pun.

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She says she said the raccoon
sound a little rabid.

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Ha, ha ha ha ha.
And I'll get it anyway.

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Well boys, so Caitlin.
What do you know about the Beast

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of Bray Road?
I know very little other than

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its name.
Yes, I know that it's closed and

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and that's about as far as my
knowledge.

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Goes so every once in a while
because I'm also friends with

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Kaitlyn, I consider her one of
my close friends.

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I check in, I'm like, hey
Caitlin, are you doing?

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She's like, oh, you know, just
living my life stitching things,

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and making things in my Cricut
and, and almost like, hey, you

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know, you grow up next to the
Beast of Bray Road and she's

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like, yeah, I don't know what
that is.

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I was like, well, that's a local
creature.

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She didn't even know she grew up
near this thing.

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Yeah, I just threw you under the
bus Caitlyn.

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Go ahead.
Oh I had to look it up.

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I get to learn a lot and I'm
excited.

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So basically I brought someone
on that lives near the epicenter

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of the story but knows nothing
about it.

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So I get to educate a local on
their own story.

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I'm gonna love it, dude.
That's cool.

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Yeah, it is pretty cool guys.
Ready to jump in?

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Oh yeah.
Yeah.

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Am I allowed to do that?
Yeah, absolutely.

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You're part of the episode talk.
Okay.

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I cus, I didn't know if I was
allowed to cuss.

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That was a.
So we just learned that she does

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not listen to the show.
It's okay.

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Are you sure you're talking to
three people that listen to it

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right now?
So don't worry about speaking of

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we just hit 20,000 listens all
between the three of us.

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Yeah, I saw that spamming the
crap out of it.

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Alright, let's jump into the
Beast.

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You guys ready?
Mmm.

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All right.
Yes.

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Sir, the first newspaper article
referring to a werewolf like

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creature in Southeastern
Wisconsin's Walworth County was

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printed during the slow week
between Christmas and New Year's

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Eve of 1991 in a free weekly
newspaper called the week.

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The area of concern was the
cornfields just outside of the

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City of Elk Horn and the rumors
were running wild through out

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the area of a creature
resembling a stereotypical

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werewolf of Legend, lore and pop
culture.

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But even though the free local
newspapers, first mention of the

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Beast was in 1991 articles in
the archives, a library of other

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newspapers have mentions of an
upright walking hairy creature

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as far back as 1936.
Elkhorn has a population, just a

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hair over 10,000 and is well
known for its beautiful.

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Norman Rockwell asked Town
Square, the residents are spread

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out, and are known more for the
farming lifestyle than the

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science fiction stories, just
east of the main area in Elkhorn

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rise.
The Infamous three and Summit

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Mile, Stretch of pavement known
as Bray Road, this road is

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mostly populated with old van
teams that have been passed down

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through families.
Ali's for Generations but there

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are plenty of areas for both
predator and prey to live as

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well.it between The Rustic farm
houses and cornfields long Bray

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Road.
There are stretches of forests

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Marshland Meadows that are said
to hide the Beast, which made

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the road.
So famous So welcome to Elkhorn

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Wisconsin, everybody.
Thanks for the invite.

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Gosh.
It's so pretty here is right.

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Tell us a little bit about
Elkhorn Caitlin.

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I dropped off my cat at the vet
there.

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Good.
How's the vet in Elkhorn, good?

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They gave me some good kitty,
drugs to take home and those my

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cat with good.
Nice, good.

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All right?
Yes, yes.

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This is mrs.
Great episode.

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Let's do this.
All Right, Moving On.

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Linda Godfrey is well known as
the historical keeper for the

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Beast of Bray Road and has
written a handful of books.

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Mentioning the topic one book,
simply titled.

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The Beast of Bray Road is the
best compilation of information,

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centered around the creature and
its history ever written in her

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book.
Miss Godfrey talks about how the

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stories began and sleepy County
of Walworth Wisconsin.

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The whole thing began with a
woman who worked as a local bus

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driver, who contacted Linda
Godfrey was rumors running, wild

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amongst the high schoolers.
That there was a werewolf like

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beast in the area surrounding
Bray Road.

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The woman gave Godfrey the name
of a girl who took her out and

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recommended that she look into
the story.

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After getting the blessing of
her editor, Linda said out to

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talk with the girl, she was
amazed to find that not only did

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she know what Godfrey was
referring to, but also that she

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was able to give an impressive
list of other names that she can

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also talk to.
Also to Linda's, surprise.

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The list included the names of a
few adults as well.

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So, that's basically the
beginning of the whole thing.

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We're going to get into those
stories that Linda Godfrey got

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into when she was interviewing
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basically, and the bus driver.
A little bit later, we'll get

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that into that beginning of
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So go ahead and put a tack in
there, but your bookmark in this

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episode.
So you know what?

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The very early stories of
episode 2 or talk referring to

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this is it right here.
So Before we jump into more

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about the Beast of Bray Road,
does anybody have any questions?

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Comments concerns.
Well, basically was the bus

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driver turned investigator know.
So the bus driver was getting

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worried about all the kids
talking about a werewolf like

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creature along very Road.
It wasn't necessarily that she

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wasn't investigated, but come to
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also had a sighting of something
as well, which will go over a

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little bit later.
Linda Godfrey was the one that

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really shined a light on
everything and it's kind of hazy

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a little bit as to where the
true beginning of the urban

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legend, or this this
mythological creature along.

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Bray Road actually began.
But just for like a sturdy.

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Starting point.
I started off with Linda,

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Godfrey's investigation of the
creature.

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Okay.
And who is she?

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She was a reporter for the
weekly newspaper from Elkhorn

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Wisconsin, which was a free news
live.

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Okay, it's a weekly news lit so
it wasn't necessarily quietly a

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newspaper but it's like one of
those free ones you get in your

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driveway and you throw away.
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The state of Wisconsin is
extremely fruitful with a

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history of strange animals and
creatures that stalk the night

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time.
Tree lines, along old dirt

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County Roads, one of the
earliest flaps that was

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described in.
Godfrey's book, The Beast of

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Bray Road was a short series of
stories told to her by a woman

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by the name of petty Gil, Patty
was Born in 1948 and Appleton

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Wisconsin about two hours
Northeast of Elkhorn and closer

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to the Green Bay Area.
She claimed that there was a

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rash of Encounters in the Years
between 1958 and 1968 with a

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creature around the town that
would hide in the shadows growl

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and snarl at all hours of the
night.

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The creature was known for
attacking doors and peering in

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Windows as well as attacking
parked cars, while people were

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still inside them.
Witnesses claim that the

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creature was not as big as a
typical Bigfoot, but bigger than

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a typical dog.
With most people claiming that

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the creature walked both on 4
legs and bipedally, it is hard

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to determine what this animal
might have actually been.

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Could this be a very early flap
of what we now know?

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As the Beast of Bray Road, what
about a relative?

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Well, Godfrey also points out
the encounter of a Richard Mo in

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1964 in Odds Worth Illinois just
about an hour southeast of

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Elkhorn, which includes an
encounter with something with at

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least, a 10 foot arm span and a
set of large.

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Yellow eyes.
Nearly nine inches apart

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attached to a large head, with a
short pointy ears on top

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whatever it was.
It had an interest in what Moe

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and his girlfriend were doing at
the time in his car on the side

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of the road in the middle of
nowhere.

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And when the couple spotted the
creatures Paws around seven feet

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apart a distance.
That's Man from the front corner

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of the passenger side,
windshield to the back left

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corner of the back window mode,
jumped into the driver's seat

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and took off, never looking
back.

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So what do you think they were
doing it?

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Mmm-hmm Machan, they were
trading pokemon cards X.

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Yeah, totally.
Totally a thing.

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Then they were playing with
pogs.

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Good old pogs.
That was a very strange

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description, the smaller than a
Bigfoot, but bigger than a

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normal size, or an average sized
dog.

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Well, eventually you'll see that
there's a lot of different

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stories about what could be a
lot of different creatures

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around the area.
Now, one thing I really got to

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point out is that the The first
story I talked about was a good

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distance away to the northeast
of Elkhorn and the second story

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was also a good distance away.
Southeast of Elkhorn.

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Now, the whole area here is just
smothered in creature.

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Sightings whether it be a
bigfoot-like creature or a

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werewolf like creature.
So, are they all talking about

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the same thing?
No.

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It's kind of tough to say is it
all what the Beast of Bray Road

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is I don't know man.
That's will get inside a later

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but that's in our thinking about
it was like what's the average

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sized dog?
And I was like, probably a lab

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right rise.
Like Fred's 170 pounds.

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He is much bigger than a normal
or average sized dog, but no one

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would look at Fred and be like,
it's a beast.

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Like they'd be like that.
Dang that dogs, a beast and be

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like, yep, and then versus a
800-pound ape righteous like I'm

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like, wow, what a weird
description.

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It was big.
The loaf of bread, but

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definitely not as big as a
minivan.

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I'm like, oh shoot.
Like man, that's a huge, huge

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variation I guess.
Listen, Matt, do I agree with

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it.
I'm just reporting on it.

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That's all fair enough about you
ladies anything?

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No, I think he had it pretty
spot-on with the very wide range

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in size.
But I'll admit, that was a

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pretty dumb description.
Yeah.

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Well, they were too busy in the
windows were foggy.

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They couldn't sighs.
It was all that hog augen their

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pocket bawling in the backseat.
When did lawn darts come out?

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They're probably playing with
lawn darts inside the car.

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They already had weapons.
They were fine.

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Oh you know what they were
doing, 64.

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Probably playing with their
light rights.

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They're probably find some
people really like a really dark

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Road, super super dark.
They're like you'll really work

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it out here, fucking light,
bright and listening to Jail

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House, Rock by Elvis on Loop.
Duh.

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Yeah, that sounds like an
amazing time though.

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That's sounds really good.
Until until something that could

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be as small as a dog, or as big
as a semi-truck happens to it.

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Hi.
Good one.

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All right, moving on.
Then the media began picking up

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the story first by the
Janesville Gazette.

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About 30 miles west of Elkhorn,
from there.

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The story went out on Associated
Press and within a few weeks,

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the story was being discussed by
newspapers and news stations all

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across the country.
When the Godfrey began getting

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phone calls from places like
Baltimore San Francisco, Chicago

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and Milwaukee requesting to
interview her for their radio

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show or TV shows.
This was not such a good thing

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for the residents of the area,
as many Hunters began to show up

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and walk around the woods at
night near and around, Bray Road

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with loaded guns.
These Hunters would walk on

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private.
Crop Fields yards and even peek

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inside people's windows at
night.

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Trying To catch a glimpse, the
true story of the Beast.

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One place and I'm Ed.
They were so sorry, ma'am.

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I'm trying to find the Beast.
She's one place in a nearby.

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Illinois, town, even sent
busloads of people on won't

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quote, werewolf, tours to the
Sleepy town of Elkhorn the story

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quickly, spread from the news
world, to the entertainment

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World rather quickly.
The story had been picked up, Up

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by Spirit magazine, October of
nineteen ninety.

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Two and a crew for the show,
sightings appeared in Elkhorn to

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interview Witnesses for their
series, but the Beast was never

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actually highlighted in the
program Inside Edition.

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Did end up running a clip on the
creature in 1993 and movie just

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barely failed being made, which
would have starred Mick.

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Fleetwood drummer, and
co-founder of the band Fleetwood

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Mac starring as the Beast.
One of the more interesting

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articles of entertainment that
come out of the Beast, scare was

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in February of 1992.
When a DJ from Michigan, took

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listeners on an imaginary hunt
for werewolves in Elkhorn,

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Wisconsin.
But really, he just staged the

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entire thing from a park outside
of Grand Rapids Michigan.

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Now remember this was a radio
show.

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This very early adoption of a
docudrama hint complete with

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witty characters and a horrific
story line which ended with

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Scream snarls and then silence.
After the radio station,

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admitted that it was all a
story.

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Many people called in to State
their opinion about how they

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believed, they were really
listening to people die at the

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hands of a werewolf and some
even compared it to 1937, s

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Orson, Welles War of the Worlds.
Whoops.

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So what do you guys think?
I think that they should have

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capitalized more on it right off
the bat just like not just a few

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werewolf tours and stuff like
that.

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But I mean like really go all
out on it right?

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Some T-shirts.
Yeah.

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Pens we do when we buy our
t-shirts.

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Right.
Hey.

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But that good t-shirt she did
she's one of the few people

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outside of us that have bought a
t-shirt.

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Thank you Caitlin.
Thank you.

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You're welcome.
I need another one.

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Yeah, just listen to show their
Good t-shirts.

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You know.
I have not listened to it entire

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show because I have too much to
do but I do listen to the whole

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thing.
Sure.

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You know, if I can poke you in
the eye with this damn needle

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through the computer, I would
yeah.

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Well I'm a little children
settle down that way.

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Ask his wife.
Anyways now a lot of people are

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going to be missing Huge chunk
of the story, right here and I

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did that on purpose.
So like what is going on?

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What is the Beast of Bray Road?
This is kind of a little way of

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getting you to make sure that
you come back for episode 2.

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When we talk about the sightings
and it's stories which it all

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will make sense.
Once it's all said and done, I

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promise you but let's just say
that there were some events that

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happen.
Which caused the national news

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wire to get involved and the
story spread like wild flower

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wildfire wildfire like that.
So you better not drop that link

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for the Inside Edition or
they'll be.

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They'll be sitting there knowing
everything about the story.

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Like me and cleanser.
I will definitely drop that

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link.
All right you guys ready to move

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on?
Yeah we get into the

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entertainment world.
The Beast did end up making its

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way into the small screen a few
times.

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The Beast of Bray Road was
highlighted in the episode of

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the new version of in search of
on the Syfy channel, as well as

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animal legends and lost tapes of
Animal Planet and other

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programs.
Such as haunted highway

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America's urban legends X and
Arcane Slammer rang in search of

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monsters Expedition, X and
Mystery Hunters on Discovery.

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Kids Canada.
Yeah, there.

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Is a fictional drama ended up
finally being made in 2005 by

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the Asylum.
Productions and was also made

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into a really badass documentary
by the small.

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Town monster crew simply named
The Bray Road East.

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Now, I tried to watch this
movie.

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I got to the first kill and I
can't watch anymore.

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I was done done.
Why not this horse?

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Was it?
The monster was it just so

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terrible.
It was everything.

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I mean you watch you watch
monster quest, don't you?

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And that shows garbage it's not
garbage.

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Dated garbage hot trash.
I would say that some of the

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episodes are hot trash but
there's some good episodes.

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Dude if you're if you're talking
shit about Monster Quest you

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retry that there's some good
stuff there now pass anyways.

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Okay, I'll be there.
I'll be there.

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The I'll be the deciding vote.
Just remember this stuff was

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like, Sharknado has better
animation, that's not true at

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all.
No, that's probably 80 is trash.

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Sharknado is newer than monster
quest.

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Yes, and budget though.
This is probably pretty case.

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What was so bad about the movie
because I'm probably going to

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watch it and just be like, wow,
dude time.

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I'll never get back ever, so it
does exactly what you're going.

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You think so.
So the the movie starts with

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them closing down a bar and
there's like these the few dudes

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and chicks that are outside the
bar and, and like this one to

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use a big boom that let's do
this.

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And she's like, no, I really
don't want to wake up on your

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futon, listening to your, your
roommates, or whatever.

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And it was really awkward,
really dumb.

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And then the guys, like, hey, I
heard the and then the guy Who's

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trying to get the girl to come
back to its place is like, dude.

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Shut up.
Try to get laid over here and

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and I was like, oh my geez dude.
And she's like a steeper cringy.

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Sounds like a Sci-Fi original.
Yeah, it's worse than that.

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Oh no, you talking about like be
flicks.

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This is like a g flick nice.
Yeah the monster was like a sock

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puppet.
No the monster the monster

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honestly like for how low budget
the movie.

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E was wasn't at add a guy with a
hairy face.

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I was straight up expecting like
to see a dude in a hoodie has

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the monster, but it honestly,
the monster wasn't all that bad.

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I mean, you're going to watch
him do like, wow, that's a

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shitty monster.
But like, look at the rest of

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the movie and just be like,
okay, at least they put some

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kind of money into the Boxster.
You have to drop me a link for

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it in the chat because I'm a
connoisseur of terrible movies.

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So this is There's a terrible
movie.

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That's how I know that monster
quest is so crap, you know.

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So the first kill happens, she
pulls over on the side of the

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road because our car goes dead
and she pulls over and instead

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of them showing it like Pitch,
black and dark and where there's

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no lighting whatsoever.
She's literally under a

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spotlight car, broke down and
now the only streetlight in 20

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miles not how it always works
though.

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You're telling me that's never
happened to you have to sweetie

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all the time.
Then she gets sliced in the face

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by the clause and it's like oh
great.

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No, it wasn't great.
But anyways Healing didn't watch

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the movie.
Sounds like a really bad porn.

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Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if
it goes down.

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If you send me the link, I'll
watch it.

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I'll put the kids in.
They can suffer with me.

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You're an awesome, you're
awesome.

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How does that is parenting?
Their high five.

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All right, you guys ready to
move on?

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Hmm.
Yes, almost done with part one

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already.
Dang it short episodes.

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Well this one's going to be a
little on the shorter end but

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the next one's going to be nice
and long for you to worry but

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I'm married.
Hey buddy, bear with us while we

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take this quick break.
So we couldn't have been, right?

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A lot of people will have more
of an opinion after the next

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episode.
But let's go down some of the

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options.
There are tons of theories about

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what the Beast of Bray Road
could have been one of the more

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famous in common answers to this
is that the creature is

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something called a dog, man.
In particular, a sibling cousin

451
00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:58,800
or the creature itself known as
the Michigan, Dogman, a radio,

452
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,300
DJ by the name of Steve, Cook
Play the song, he wrote titled

453
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:08,000
The Legend Live on air on April
Fool's of April 1989 soon.

454
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,500
After the song played he began
getting many phone calls reports

455
00:28:11,500 --> 00:28:15,100
of people or someone they knew
who had a story about the same

456
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:17,700
creature.
This creature became known as

457
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:22,400
the Michigan Dogman and this is
where our coverage will end for

458
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,400
the Michigan.
Dogman for the night Ali, jump

459
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,900
into this topic much further
down the rabbit hole because we

460
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:30,200
actually already visited once
but we're going to revisit

461
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,900
Because we did a terrible job,
so don't go looking for that

462
00:28:32,900 --> 00:28:38,000
episode in July of 1964.
A man who wished to remain

463
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:43,200
anonymous from Delvin, reported
witnessing a Bigfoot as he drove

464
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,400
home from work between midnight
and 1:00 a.m. just off of

465
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,700
Highway 89, just Northwest of
Elkhorn.

466
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,600
The first witness, the creature
in a cornfield, on one side of

467
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:58,500
the road as it jumped, the fence
about four and a half feet tall

468
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,600
and proceeded to run across the
the road and jump the fence on

469
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,600
the other side.
He estimates the creature as

470
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,100
being seven to eight feet tall
and weighing north of 400

471
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:11,600
pounds.
The creature, which clearly

472
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,700
running on two legs and look
like, it could have been a very

473
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,600
large and Harry human.
In 1974, a woman from Fort

474
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,900
Atkinson.
All the Department of Natural

475
00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:26,100
Resources to state.
That there was a large ape-like

476
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:30,000
creature walking around in her
yard upon investigation.

477
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,900
There proved to be no sign of
the creature.

478
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:36,700
But two weeks later, the same
woman called, again, completely

479
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:39,300
terrified.
This time saying that the

480
00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:42,500
creature walked up to her front
porch and began shaking front

481
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:45,000
door.
This time investigators

482
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,100
discovered a slash on the side
of her house seven, Above the

483
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:52,100
ground, one of our horses.
Also, at suffered, a 30 inch

484
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:56,100
gash on its neck and there were
plenty of footprints this time.

485
00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:00,500
Now, one thing to remember is
that there is an agreed-upon

486
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,800
theory that there may be many
different kinds of Bigfoot.

487
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,200
Here in the u.s. one of those
types is a type that we have not

488
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,900
touched on yet in our American
Bigfoot series and that is the

489
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:16,200
googly or face either type,
which is known to be close to

490
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,200
this general area.
The gugg.

491
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,300
We is known to have very similar
physical features to the typical

492
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:26,200
Bray Road Beast description more
on the googly, in the future

493
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,400
episode of in Finn.
Radical course.

494
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:32,100
In a lot of encounter stories
will be covering in the next

495
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:34,300
episode.
That's around the Beast of Bray

496
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:37,000
Road.
There are a few telltale signs

497
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,700
that point directly to Bigfoot.
Strong.

498
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:43,200
Horrible smells guttural,
screams six to eight foot tall

499
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,700
Silhouettes and general,
curiosity are just a few that

500
00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:50,000
may point at all of these
sightings in stories, really,

501
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,200
being about our show's official
/ unofficial mascot old

502
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,700
bigfeetz, which is well
documented.

503
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,700
And Warren, Coleman's, book,
mysterious America.

504
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:04,000
In a newspapers of the time they
came gurus were living freely in

505
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,600
the wilderness of the Midwest in
the 40s and are still randomly

506
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,800
seen reported to this day and
don't forget during author,

507
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Denver Michaels, first
appearance on our show, we

508
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,700
discussed what he believed when
it came to dog me outside, he

509
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:23,100
believes that kangaroos are
responsible for the dogma of

510
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:26,600
phenomena that has swept the
u.s. in recent years.

511
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:32,400
The next culprit, the Borel
faggots, which was an ancient

512
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,700
hyena like dog found in North
America some time from the

513
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:41,000
pliocene to the pleistocene
roughly 10,000 years ago in.

514
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Godfrey's book near the end, she
goes over a different angle for

515
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:50,400
the answer of what the animal be
a demon, she explains that the

516
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,800
first-ever article about the
Beast of Bray Road and strange

517
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,400
magazine included a quote from
the June 1991. one Milwaukee

518
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:04,400
Sentinel article sitting quote
pets, mutilated collectivities

519
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,300
suspected in Lynn, in which
there was a flap of mutilated,

520
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:12,900
animals popping up around the
Lynn, Township that included

521
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:17,000
dogs cats on identifiable
skeletons with their throat,

522
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:22,300
slit, and limbs decapitated, and
some even had their heart, other

523
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:26,500
organs, remove, this led
authorities to start a search

524
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,700
and investigation, Nation into
possible Cole activities in the

525
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:32,200
area.
To this day, there has been

526
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,800
plenty of evidence of cool
activities in the area.

527
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:39,400
Mostly centered around the area
of Milwaukee, just 45 miles,

528
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:44,100
Northeast of Elkhorn.
In fact, the entire area has had

529
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:48,000
a number of high-profile cases
that include cult activity or

530
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,900
satanic Worship in 2011.
Two women attempted to murder a

531
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:58,900
man, a stabbing him over 300
times and there are Apartment in

532
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:02,500
act that they later described as
a Satanic ritual.

533
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:09,200
And in 2014 in Waukesha, 30
miles, north of Elkhorn, to 12

534
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,100
year old girls almost kill the
classmate of theirs in order to

535
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:16,900
appease the character of a
famous, urban legend known as

536
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:20,400
Slender.
But, no matter what the creature

537
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,800
actually is, one thing is for
certain the locals began to

538
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,700
believe that there was something
to all the sightings that there

539
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:31,100
were popping up.
And when local police in a few

540
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:34,100
members, the community began
carrying silver bullets with

541
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:38,300
them at all times, it became
very clear that they believe

542
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:44,700
what the creature was aware. 300
times, three hundred fucking

543
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:50,400
times, Is it someone someone
look like he lived he lived.

544
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:52,800
He would look like hamburger
meat a thing.

545
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:57,200
Holy dude fucking lip had to
have held back.

546
00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:59,600
There's no way.
Have you heard of that Kaitlyn

547
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,600
know.
The Slenderman thing I knew

548
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,000
about, but that was national
news.

549
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Yeah, the Slender Man. 1 was a
big case.

550
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,600
I remember hearing about that
be.

551
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,900
That's international news
because she's from Canada.

552
00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:14,199
Named Uncle Andy.
Ha ha ha.

553
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,199
Knee.
Slapper.

554
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,500
I know you guys don't have a
really good description of it

555
00:34:18,500 --> 00:34:20,300
other than what I put in the
intro.

556
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:23,900
But out of all the things that I
kind of brought up there, is

557
00:34:23,900 --> 00:34:26,699
there anything that kind of
matches the description in your

558
00:34:26,699 --> 00:34:30,300
mind?
I think it'd be more likely that

559
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:33,600
it's a werewolf than a kangaroo.
I don't know.

560
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,100
Denver Michaels made a pretty
good argument about it.

561
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:45,000
A really good argument about it.
The height the way it jumps the

562
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,500
we those are scary and select.
I'll send you the video that

563
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,800
Denver sent me.
And it's basically like this

564
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,500
kangaroo at the sliding glass
door and this kangaroos have

565
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,600
claws, man.
They have like A human-looking

566
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,100
hands and Claws.
But pectorals, and like, delts

567
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:08,000
that are just like, boom.
Yeah, I know.

568
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,200
They're super strong.
Yeah.

569
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:15,500
Like if I saw the silhouette of
a kangaroo, I might think it's

570
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:18,800
dog or werewolf.
Just saying it's crazy.

571
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,700
That people got so into it that
they were, you know, walk around

572
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:24,800
with silver bullets and stuff.
I mean, that would be rather

573
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:31,900
expensive but at the same time
it's like What could you really

574
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:38,000
like, where is the line between
cult activity and like animal

575
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,100
sacrifices in the woods and
stuff like that?

576
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:47,100
And, you know, quote unquote
beasts, that's killing things

577
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:51,000
out there to the average person,
you know, that's not it just

578
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,900
hearing about it, right?
You know, and I don't know, man,

579
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,500
some of this stuff that we'll
get into later, could be cult

580
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:02,200
activity.
You know, and one of the

581
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,800
theories and I think I touch on
a little bit later is the idea

582
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,500
of a tulpa where, you know,
either a tulpa or something

583
00:36:10,500 --> 00:36:14,600
that's brought on by satanic
worship, which would be even

584
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,700
scarier.
I don't want to like, dig into

585
00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:23,800
your, your sidings and stuff.
But I did some research on it,

586
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:29,100
but I didn't find any examples
of it like killing people just

587
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,700
animals, roadkill, stuff like
that, unless you're going to get

588
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:36,600
into it, but it was just like,
You know, when I think of a dog

589
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,800
man or werewolf or something
like that, there's like people

590
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,500
being attacked, not just people
stumbling upon something, eating

591
00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:47,200
roadkill, and then it jumps over
a fence and they're like, you

592
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,500
know, oh no, oh no, there it is.
It's cleaning up the streets.

593
00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,800
So we don't have to see that
every day for the next two

594
00:36:54,800 --> 00:37:00,600
weeks, you know?
I'm just saying unless they're

595
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,000
mad because it's that perfect
time of the year.

596
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,400
And you know dear gets creamed
by a truck and you could just

597
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,600
run out there and grab it, you
know, I'm just like because I

598
00:37:10,607 --> 00:37:12,800
mean still, it's still good
meat, it would be like you

599
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,700
gross.
But I mean, you know, let's be

600
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:18,600
real.
And they're like, oh, that dang

601
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:22,300
Beast.
Stole that fresh kill.

602
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,500
I don't know, man.
I'm like, I'm not gonna like you

603
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:29,600
said, I'm not going to dive into
the sightings or anything at the

604
00:37:29,607 --> 00:37:31,100
stories?
Yeah.

605
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:34,100
Entertain me at all.
I know right now, I am seeing

606
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:35,700
you later.
Don't worry Bud, we'll get

607
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:41,100
there.
I'm So Married two, ladies in

608
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,800
this chat room.
I know, Jeremy's being all

609
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,000
gross.
I'm trying to be like I'm trying

610
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,600
Be like scientific and and and
thinking about things and

611
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,200
thoughts and whatnot.
And he's over here with his fake

612
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,600
country accent and sexual
innuendos, thinking about how

613
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:02,300
much I was so beautiful.
I love her so much.

614
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,500
She don't listen to.
This is my Haven.

615
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,900
She's like you embarrassed me
there.

616
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:10,100
Sure is.
Getting from Caitlin.

617
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Oh, please.
Oh yeah.

618
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,400
Now you don't even want to hear
the things that my husband have

619
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,800
said to me.
Recently.

620
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,100
I don't want to hear the things.
You're right.

621
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,300
I don't, he's like a 12 year old
boy, sometimes of the weird

622
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:29,100
things that come out of his
mouth are entertaining though.

623
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:32,200
Let's get it.
Let's get into what else it

624
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,000
could be.
Well, if it wasn't some

625
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,400
mythological cryptozoological or
extinct animal nor was it

626
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,100
brought into this world by way
of Satanic rituals.

627
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:47,900
Then what real Zoological animal
could, it have been, well, the

628
00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:52,200
wildlife and Walworth County is
fast, a ton of animal species

629
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,300
that could fit into vague
descriptions of the Beast, do

630
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:58,300
live in the area.
The typical animal spotted are

631
00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:02,100
coyotes and foxes, but even some
domesticated dog, breeds get

632
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:03,700
blamed as possible,
perpetrators.

633
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:09,500
It's a Great Pyrenees and an
Irish Wolfhound, although rare

634
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:14,300
more dangerous animals, wander
into the area of and around

635
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:18,500
Elkhorn, Wisconsin animals.
Like the American black bear and

636
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:22,400
gray wolf are spotted frequently
in the area and cause many

637
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,600
citizens to believe that the
Beast is no more than a large

638
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,700
deformed or mangy black bear or
wolf you guys think?

639
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,200
A Great Pyrenees is here white
and they look like big giant,

640
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,400
massive Poof Balls.
Hey man.

641
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:41,600
I'm just going off of, what's up
the, like, I don't know.

642
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,800
Who's out there.
Seeing a Great Pyrenees and they

643
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,800
were like, oh God.
It's a monster.

644
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:49,800
You tried to lick me?
What?

645
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,100
It was a Min ji grape hearing.
What if it got into a mud

646
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:54,600
puddle.
Yeah, I don't know.

647
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,700
Cancer looks like she's the
expert in this she's squinting.

648
00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:00,200
She knows how about Olivia have
expert hair.

649
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:10,100
I know nothing doing great kid.
Aw, thanks.

650
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:15,100
So proud of myself over here.
Yeah, I don't know.

651
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:19,900
On the other hand I like you
guys well, if idea, right?

652
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:21,000
Sorry.
Continue Jake.

653
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:26,600
Oh no, I was going to say.
Have you ever seen a shaved bear

654
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,300
before?
Shaved?

655
00:40:27,300 --> 00:40:30,100
Black bear.
They look like the Guardians Of

656
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,400
The Night.
Our realm, like there was a

657
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,700
mangy, black bear, holy moly.
I could see someone looking at

658
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,500
that and being like, that's a
dang werewolf dude.

659
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:42,200
Shave bears are scarier than
ones with hair.

660
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,300
They're freaking terrifying.
It is there.

661
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,000
Yeah.
Right.

662
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,300
It's not just their hairs or
skin.

663
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,300
That looks like a giant mangy
rat.

664
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:59,700
Yeah.
That is terrifying, right?

665
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:03,700
So yeah, if it was like a bear
with like manger is, you know,

666
00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:06,900
Something like that.
Yeah, I could absolutely see

667
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:09,000
someone saying that and being
like, I have never seen that

668
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,700
before in my life and it's gonna
it's gonna haunt my dreams

669
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,900
forever.
Yeah, I mean anybody listening

670
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:19,900
to this definitely needs to take
time to Google what a shaved

671
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:23,500
black bear looks like because it
takes 30 seconds.

672
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:26,300
I just did it.
Yeah, you guys can too.

673
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,900
I mean, once you see it, you'll
be like, oh man.

674
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,800
Imagine if this thing because
bears are known to get Up on

675
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,300
their back legs, right?
And you can walk a little bit on

676
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:43,300
their hind legs.
Man, if it's a shaved or mangy

677
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:47,400
black bear got up and on time
legs this this could be your

678
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Beast of Bray Road right here.
Now.

679
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,500
I don't know about the jumping
over fences and stuff like that

680
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,900
could just be like some fluff
around the story but certainly

681
00:41:55,900 --> 00:42:01,000
bears are you know, I mean,
they're scavengers they do hunt

682
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,200
and stuff too.
But you know, that's why you

683
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,100
gotta keep your food up high and
blah blah blah all this stuff

684
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,500
because the try to eat it all
because they're scavengers.

685
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:11,100
No fine.
Roadkill, delete it.

686
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:14,300
But yeah, if it was something
like that like even if it's just

687
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:18,500
one in one area and it kept
getting cited like that would be

688
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:23,300
enough to cause quite a flap
people are just like there's a

689
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:26,100
monster out here, especially if
people didn't know what they

690
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:30,500
were looking at because I mean
Yeah, you guys ever seen this

691
00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:36,600
hairless baboon, dude, that's
creepy.

692
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:42,100
Hairless baboon.
Yes, go ahead.

693
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:52,000
I'll wait all day my.
What that?

694
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:54,000
Okay, I'm gonna have nightmares
now.

695
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,700
Thanks.
No, that is, that is really

696
00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:01,300
terrifying.
Actually babylon's are really

697
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:03,000
mean.
Yeah.

698
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:09,000
We, yeah, it's hairless one.
No, thankin good to go.

699
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,000
So, glad we don't have that
problem here.

700
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:17,600
It looks like a zombie.
Yeah, it looks like a zombie of

701
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,500
sorts.
Oh my gosh.

702
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:22,700
Right there she goes.
She saw it gross.

703
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:28,700
Yeah, let's say in the least.
Well, if you're listening to

704
00:43:28,707 --> 00:43:31,400
this, you may have gotten an
incomplete episode because you

705
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,700
guys don't know any of the
stories but you sure to fuck out

706
00:43:34,700 --> 00:43:36,400
entertained by Googling
everything.

707
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,400
All right, move along Native
American lore.

708
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,900
This one's for Jakey likes.
It's tough.

709
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,800
Yeah I like this stuff.
One other very common answer to

710
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,300
what the Beast of Bray Road.
Maybe is a Native American

711
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:55,200
creature or Spirit such as a
malevolent windigo or

712
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,200
skinwalker.
Side note, right, nope.

713
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:01,500
Obviously the windigo no does
not fit the description the

714
00:44:01,508 --> 00:44:05,500
beast in more ways than one but
it is a common idea that we can

715
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:08,500
worrier cryptozoologists and
spiritualists toss around.

716
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:13,600
So I include but I do not
believe that what we're dealing

717
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,200
with with the Beast of Bray Road
to be a wendigo whatsoever.

718
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,400
So please go easy on the hate
mail, just included it because

719
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,900
it is included.
Everywhere else.

720
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:28,100
Okay, those are like Two
different ends of the spectrum

721
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:28,900
there.
Yeah.

722
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,800
Alright so before 1900 natives
tribes were forced out of

723
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000
southern Wisconsin.
Some of these tribes are the

724
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:44,500
Ojibwa Ottawa, thus all Fox
Ho-Chunk, and pop how to atami

725
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,700
with them.
The removal of many burial,

726
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:50,800
mounds took place to make room
for the new residents.

727
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:54,500
And this is where many people
believe that what haunts the

728
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:57,800
woods and the back roads of
Other than Wisconsin may

729
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,300
actually be a spirit once long
Cast Away by native peoples,

730
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:07,200
there are and work.
So many burial mounds in this

731
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,700
area at.
There are now recognized

732
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:13,200
national monuments and protected
reserves that stands as a

733
00:45:13,207 --> 00:45:15,900
reminder.
In a memory of what was once

734
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:21,100
their animal Effigy Mounds were
also common in the area Mound

735
00:45:21,100 --> 00:45:24,500
shaped like Thunderbird Panther
lizards and turtles are just a

736
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:26,100
few of the ones that we know
sir.

737
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,800
Stood in the area, some still
stand to this day, in an

738
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,100
interview, with Sean Hannity of
Fox News, National News

739
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:37,900
television channel, Linda
Godfrey stated that she had made

740
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,800
a map of these Mounds across
Wisconsin and a map of what she

741
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:47,600
calls wolfmen sightings as the
visuals of the two maps overlay.

742
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,300
Each other, it becomes clear
that the locations of the

743
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:54,600
sightings in the ancient Native
American Mounds do in fact share

744
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:58,200
more than just a tie.
With each other, in Native lore,

745
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,100
another creature but the low a
natives had stories about in

746
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:06,400
their traditional lands of
Wisconsin before ultimately

747
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,600
moving as far south as Oklahoma,
is the shunka warakin.

748
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:15,300
The Shuka were Akin is thought
to have been a known prehistoric

749
00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:18,500
relative of the hyena.
Typically refer to as a ring

750
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:23,400
doukas that was black or brown
in color I shoulders and a back

751
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:25,600
that sloped down to its hind
quarters.

752
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:30,000
The creatures name to the iOS.
Shunka warakin.

753
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:35,200
Means carrying off dogs.
There have been stories all

754
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,200
along the northern midwest
states of creatures matching the

755
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,900
descriptions of ring doukas in
the book cryptozoology.

756
00:46:41,900 --> 00:46:45,700
A to Z by Loren Coleman and
Jerome Clark, they reference a

757
00:46:45,707 --> 00:46:49,800
cryptozoologist by the name,
Mark a halt, it has documented,

758
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:54,800
sightings of boat mean-looking,
near wolf-like and hyena, like

759
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,900
animals from Alberta Nebraska,
Iowa and Illinois.

760
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:03,200
There is even a mounted
taxidermied, ring tokus in

761
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,200
existence and currently at the
Madison Valley, History Museum

762
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:11,600
and is owned by the Ida Idaho
Museum of Natural History.

763
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,300
Stand by this, might be
something we dive into deeper

764
00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:18,700
but in order to stoke the fire
behind the Native, American

765
00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:23,100
Spirit Theory a little bit.
Linda Godfrey mentions in her

766
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,900
appearance in the Bray Road
East.

767
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,700
Hurry by small-town monsters
that during her research on Bray

768
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:32,500
Road itself.
She came across books in the

769
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:34,900
local library.
They referred to what is now

770
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:39,200
known as bright Road as a
popular Native, American trail,

771
00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:43,200
that eventually LED them to a
few different lakes that were

772
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,600
common to be used for their
summer living.

773
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,700
When students, I don't know.
What do you guys think?

774
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,900
I think Indian burial grounds
have a lot more to do with

775
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:57,400
stuff.
Let me give them credit for.

776
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,900
I think Indian burial grounds
have nothing to do with anything

777
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:03,400
except being a cemetery for
Indians.

778
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,800
Well, Mounds are a little bit
different.

779
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,600
Not only did they bury their
dead, but they also buried a lot

780
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:15,300
of trinkets that were possessed
or thought to be possessed a lot

781
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:17,800
of pottery.
A lot of art.

782
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,300
It was also thought that they
would they would bury anything

783
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:26,300
that would cause their, their
tribe or Village to Have some

784
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:29,700
sort of danger, right?
So let's say if there was a

785
00:48:29,707 --> 00:48:33,200
bear, that was causing them, a
lot of danger, where it was

786
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,800
going around.
Killing a lot of people while

787
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,900
they were out hunting, when they
finally killed it they would add

788
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:41,200
it or have it put into one of
these mountains.

789
00:48:41,700 --> 00:48:44,300
So the Beast is like Cujo,
that's it?

790
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:47,300
That's all you guys got.
Yeah, I don't know, man.

791
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,500
I'm still waiting to get into
these sightings.

792
00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:54,600
Did you look up the ring doukas?
I did.

793
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,200
It's not As big as I thought it
was gonna be, I thought I was

794
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,200
going to be some, like, crazy
big wolf or something like that.

795
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,400
It really isn't that wild while
I'm holes are big, you know.

796
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:08,500
Mmm, but it's just like, I don't
know.

797
00:49:08,500 --> 00:49:09,700
It wasn't.
It wasn't what?

798
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:13,300
I expected it to be, right, but
the fact is that they've done

799
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:17,300
DNA testing on this thing and it
does not match any canid in the

800
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:20,400
world.
Which is pretty cool what the

801
00:49:20,408 --> 00:49:25,900
ring doukas.
Yeah, it was shot by a farmer in

802
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:27,600
Iowa.
I believe it was.

803
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,800
Hmm.
And it now is in a museum and

804
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:35,400
Utah are not Utah, Idaho.
And apparently like, this thing

805
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,900
was like killing livestock and
crazy shit.

806
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:42,500
You can actually see a picture.
If you, if you Google, bring

807
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:48,000
doukas RI NG dios eus, there's a
picture of the man who shot it.

808
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,600
Standing next to the the
taxidermied body.

809
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:54,600
It's actually a pretty, pretty
interesting.

810
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,600
I mean you look at the body
structure and it looks like a

811
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,100
hyena.
Yeah.

812
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:03,000
Right.
The but is tapered downward and

813
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,600
the chest is Beefy.
Mmm.

814
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,900
You know, I suppose if something
like that was running around,

815
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:12,000
then it would be like, you like,
oh jeez.

816
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:17,300
That's a crazy-looking wolf or
dog, or something like that.

817
00:50:17,700 --> 00:50:21,000
I don't know.
It's I'm still kind of in limbo

818
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,900
with this whole thing because
it's like nothing we've talked

819
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:26,600
about so far with the exception
that exception of the hairless

820
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,300
bear has even come close to.
Where if I was just, I don't

821
00:50:31,300 --> 00:50:33,100
know.
I don't want to say walking in

822
00:50:33,107 --> 00:50:39,900
the woods but say like out on a
unoccupied Road or whatever

823
00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:43,000
right empty road, just me and I
saw something like this, right?

824
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,000
Had car troubles.
Because I mean, it happens and I

825
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,000
saw something like this, you
know.

826
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:52,100
Know that I would be like say
anything other than like dang.

827
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:55,700
That's a crazy looking dog.
You know, that's a dang that's a

828
00:50:55,707 --> 00:50:57,700
big wolf or something like that,
you know?

829
00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:01,200
That I would be like, oh my
gosh, it's a beast or it's a

830
00:51:01,207 --> 00:51:04,800
monster, I have no idea what
that is or something like that.

831
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,500
You know, that I would go up to
anybody else.

832
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:12,600
And just be like, I saw some
monster out there versus I saw

833
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,000
some big giant dog.
I don't know.

834
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:20,600
And you know, like you said
without the the stories and

835
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,800
everything it's gonna be very
hard to determine what what our

836
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,100
opinions are on this thing.
Yeah.

837
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:30,000
And but that's it.
That's all I have.

838
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,300
That's the whole story and the
background of the Beast of Bray

839
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:36,400
Road and I know a lot of people
are gonna be listening is like

840
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,000
this fucking episode suck.
But you know what?

841
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:43,900
This was it was the history of a
local urban legend or

842
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:47,300
cryptozoological creature.
Which is actually, you know,

843
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:52,100
something close to me personally
when it comes to Kaitlyn and and

844
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:54,300
my wife.
So this is something I really

845
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:57,200
wanted to cover and I wanted to
do really good.

846
00:51:57,700 --> 00:51:59,700
I can promise you, I didn't miss
anything.

847
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,900
I definitely dug in and got
probably a more than than what I

848
00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:06,300
was expecting to be honest with
you.

849
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,700
I was expecting to do all this
in one episode, but I have quite

850
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:11,700
a bit of sightings that we're
going to go over in the next

851
00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:15,600
episode that will maybe spice up
this episode bit more.

852
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,500
So Caitlin, did you learn
anything today?

853
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:22,800
I learned a lot.
It makes me really want to go to

854
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,400
Elkhorn and start messing
around.

855
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:28,200
Well, don't because all the
farmers get pissed when people

856
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,500
do that.
Wow, talking like trespassing

857
00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,200
and all that nonsense.
I'm just looking for the Beast.

858
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,800
Depends.
How many of these I get to have?

859
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,600
Ya know just looking for you
like hacking up a cow man like I

860
00:52:42,607 --> 00:52:44,200
needed.
Wait for the Beast.

861
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:52,800
That's what chicken livers for
there was a story that I did not

862
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,800
include where a guy, put out a
bucket of KFC as an attempt to

863
00:52:57,808 --> 00:53:00,700
try to lure the Beast desert
work.

864
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,600
No, we brought in plenty of
Reckoning.

865
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:07,700
So it was actually Linda Godfrey
in somebody else that went out

866
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:15,000
there and they put the bucket of
KFC out and they ended up not

867
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,500
being able to stay out there the
entire night.

868
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:19,000
But When they went back, the
chicken was going on the bucket.

869
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,100
Being weighted, could've been
anything.

870
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,200
I mean, should I cook at
hobo-like?

871
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:31,600
If I rolled up on a bucket of
KFC, I'd be like, well, Finders

872
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,400
Keepers, right?
Yeah.

873
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:35,000
But yeah.
That's it.

874
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,400
That's that's the whole
background of the Beast of Bray

875
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,800
Road.
Come out.

876
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:43,400
Can we give speculation prior to
getting into the second part

877
00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:44,800
book?
Yeah, we can dude.

878
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,100
Go ahead.
You start us.

879
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:52,100
We will get into Cannes.
So my first initial thoughts on

880
00:53:52,100 --> 00:53:58,300
it.
I think that well, since I

881
00:53:58,300 --> 00:54:03,500
believe in the possibility that
Sasquatch could exist and I'm

882
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,800
very iffy when it comes to
werewolves, Dogman, that sort of

883
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,300
stuff.
And I really hit like the

884
00:54:08,300 --> 00:54:13,000
kangaroo idea.
I want to say right off the bat

885
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:17,400
that this to me, sounds like
mistaken identity for probably

886
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:21,100
it's going to be some of the
sightings just because you gave

887
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:26,600
that very Strange description
earlier.

888
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,500
I'm gonna assume that that's
going to go into some people

889
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:33,300
that are probably going to be
describing describing a

890
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:39,300
Sasquatch or juvenile.
Sasquatch, probably describing

891
00:54:39,300 --> 00:54:44,400
some other things that certainly
could be, you know, big dogs or,

892
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,700
you know, I don't know.
I've never seen a wolf man.

893
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,200
I've never seen a dog man or
whatever, or as the Inside

894
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,800
Edition said a man wolf.
Are seeing any that stuff but

895
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,700
you know, why not?
Why couldn't it exists?

896
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:02,400
But yeah, I don't know.
I am I always like to be err on

897
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,400
the side of mistaken identity,
but I think he did a really good

898
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,400
job with the backstory of it
Italy.

899
00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:13,900
It puts us in a good spot for
getting into all the all the

900
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:16,900
craziness and then we can be
like, okay, that makes sense.

901
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,600
You know.
All right.

902
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,800
Kailyn, what do you?
What's your initial thoughts?

903
00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:24,300
What do you think these
promoters?

904
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:31,000
I would like to assume that
it's, you know, a bear with some

905
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:38,000
skin tissue but realistically
with like kind of like what Jake

906
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,200
said, you know, with all the
sightings and everything all

907
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:47,200
throughout, you know, the whole
freaking world of a Bigfoot.

908
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,900
Sasquatch, like, it's just it's
something, there's got to be,

909
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:54,900
not all of them.
Can be this one bear throughout

910
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:58,800
how many Ears, you know, it's
got to be there's got to be

911
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,700
something deeper there than
that.

912
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,400
I got it.
I understand.

913
00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:10,800
So basically what you're saying
is that there has to be a

914
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,400
population there that has been
there for a while because it's

915
00:56:15,700 --> 00:56:19,700
crawling over decades and 1bg
bears not going to do that,

916
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,200
right?
Got it.

917
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:26,100
But you kid, this is kangaroos
kangaroos.

918
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:28,100
I like the king hairless.
Kangaroos.

919
00:56:29,300 --> 00:56:36,300
It's King Herod, airless
kangaroo, no rabbit hairless.

920
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:41,200
Kangaroos, they eat roadkill,
they've got a Lust For Blood,

921
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:47,000
it's unquenchable, yeah, not as
the kangaroos friggin mom, I

922
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,000
swear.
It makes sense that there would

923
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,500
be there could be a population
of kangaroos.

924
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,200
Their big scary terrifying
creatures.

925
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,200
If I saw one in the dark those
I'll beefed-up.

926
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:07,000
I'd, I'd be shitting my pants.
Just a believes that one video.

927
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,600
That made it big couple years
ago, that dude, punching the

928
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,500
kangaroo.
Yeah yeah.

929
00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:13,000
Yeah.
Thinking about that thing was as

930
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,000
follows him, it's crazy.
I mean I don't know how big how

931
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,300
tall the guy was, but that thing
was, as tall as him in it.

932
00:57:19,300 --> 00:57:22,000
I know they can get, you know,
they can stand way up high.

933
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:29,600
That was, you know what?
Big much like a good idea to but

934
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:32,300
I swear it's kangaroos it's got
to be kangaroos.

935
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:38,100
Yeah, yeah, I agree.
That's the same time at the same

936
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:40,800
time.
I mean if this area that you're

937
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,500
describing is as desolate as you
described, then it would make

938
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:48,400
sense that people would see a
number of different things and

939
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,100
if there's hysteria out there,
the say that, like, oh my gosh,

940
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:54,600
there's a monster running around
out there and people saw

941
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,900
Sasquatch or they saw a kangaroo
or shoot.

942
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,900
They saw wolf man.
Why couldn't why wouldn't people

943
00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:02,800
describe it as all being the
same thing and saying I saw the

944
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:06,300
Beast of Bray Road you know?
So I think that it could be a

945
00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:09,200
number of different things and
we'll see when all the when you

946
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,200
report all the sightings to us.
Yeah.

947
00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:14,500
You know what their descriptions
are and stuff, you know, I'm

948
00:58:14,500 --> 00:58:17,900
sure Caitlyn kind of kind of
nodded her head a little bit

949
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:21,400
when you were talking about, if
it's really as desolate feeling

950
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:26,600
anything it is out there,
there's Nothing like good luck.

951
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,700
Finding a gas station off the
main road, like it's there's

952
00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:33,000
nothing out there.
Nice.

953
00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:38,900
That's a perfect spot to go
hunting for a beast.

954
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:46,900
I mean, come on.
We gotta start doing this stuff,

955
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:48,500
man.
We're sitting here, like, oh,

956
00:58:48,500 --> 00:58:51,400
we'll do it one day now.
I've has to go and get me

957
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,200
surgery, you know?
Yeah.

958
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,100
But I can I can actually
convince my wife to go on that

959
00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:58,500
trip.
Yeah, you could.

960
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:01,100
Yeah.
She's like I'll go hang out with

961
00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:03,900
Kayla's.
I could Jeremy and I are going

962
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:07,000
to be in a tent out in the
sticks.

963
00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:13,200
Oh well you know comes our I'll
be able to join one day anytime

964
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,400
you want.
Girl you let me know.

965
00:59:16,100 --> 00:59:18,200
I'll be there.
Alright.

966
00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:22,400
Sounds like a good thing.
I'm gonna put out my thoughts

967
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,200
right?
And I don't get to do that.

968
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,800
I have, you know, I'll know when
the stories, but listen up,

969
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,000
Jacob, I'm gonna get some cups.
That's good.

970
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,800
So I have some information that
I was going to save for a much

971
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:43,200
later episode where I do.
Because this episode, to notice

972
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,500
this whole topic, right?
Has really put me down the

973
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:50,800
rabbit hole of werewolves, and
I'm going to take a break from

974
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:55,100
the whole upright walking.
Canines for a while because I'm

975
00:59:55,100 --> 01:00:01,100
doing another canine type
episode here very soon. but I

976
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:07,400
know it is, I will say that I
believe That.

977
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:14,100
There is a lot of historical
evidence or an upright walking

978
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:20,200
canine in history.
And people saw these things.

979
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:21,900
Let's I'm going to call them
dog, man.

980
01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:23,500
That's my favorite term to go
by.

981
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:26,500
Right, what, what is this
upright walking?

982
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:29,900
Canine creature?
Lot of people will calm

983
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:31,900
werewolves.
I like dog man.

984
01:00:32,100 --> 01:00:35,100
That's kind of the term that we
use here locally here in the

985
01:00:35,107 --> 01:00:38,900
United States.
What if?

986
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,400
The difference between a dog,
man, a werewolf right?

987
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,500
Is that a werewolf shape shift
from a human to a dog, man?

988
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,200
Right.
A werewolf and the dog and write

989
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,400
in a dog man doesn't shape shift
at all.

990
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,700
It just always is what a
werewolf turns into.

991
01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:07,300
What if people were actually
spotting these dog men but

992
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:12,200
because you know, you're dealing
with a more permanent - thought

993
01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:15,200
about things.
You look at something that

994
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:20,600
stands on two legs and you're
saying, there's no way that,

995
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,300
that's not really a human.
And they think the first thing

996
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:28,100
that pops in their head, and
this has to be a human that

997
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:30,900
turns into this thing.
So, we're plus you have Decades

998
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:33,600
of Hollywood behind it.
You know, already shaping

999
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,100
people's ideas, if they saw
something like that, the ike

1000
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:38,400
that's a werewolf.
I want to fact-check something

1001
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,400
really quick.
Okay good.

1002
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:47,400
So the word where I don't have a
language for it.

1003
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:52,700
Just has a translation does not
give me a language.

1004
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:57,700
The word where in some language.
Looks like old high German where

1005
01:01:57,700 --> 01:02:03,500
means man?
So, the term werewolf actually

1006
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:07,900
means man-wolf you go back to
even Egyptian times, right?

1007
01:02:07,900 --> 01:02:12,900
And what was one of the most
famous most popular hieroglyph

1008
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:17,200
that anybody's familiar with
seeing right be, I think it's

1009
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:22,400
nubes writing this.
Yeah, Anubis which is a jack.

1010
01:02:22,700 --> 01:02:26,000
Well what if that was a dog man
Right.

1011
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,500
And then there's the stories of
from Greece and some of the

1012
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:37,400
very, very early Olympic games
where not only were it was only

1013
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,900
humans but there were also a
race of dog.

1014
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:44,100
Hmm.
All I'm saying is, is that, if

1015
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:47,100
it turned out that dude?
I'm telling you, dog, man.

1016
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:51,500
Used to be like smoking, crack.
You're like, no way, dude, this

1017
01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:56,100
is not a thing.
But this whole be Of Bray Road

1018
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:58,400
thing really sent me down the
werewolves rabbit hole and I

1019
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,600
cannot wait dive into it.
More Jeremy's going to be

1020
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,600
licking water out of a wolf
print during a full moon.

1021
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,700
Like the next one that comes up
is whether they're siphoning out

1022
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:11,100
of the wolf print like
rainwater.

1023
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:13,400
And we like soon soon, I'll
fight.

1024
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:18,800
I'll get my final form, but I
don't know.

1025
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:23,700
I, I think that this could be a
diagram, I really do.

1026
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,100
Fair enough says the guy with
all the research says the guy

1027
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:32,400
with all the yeah.
So that is it, that is the end

1028
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:38,100
of episode 1.
The background and story of the

1029
01:03:38,500 --> 01:03:42,000
Beast of Bray Road from Elkhorn.
Wisconsin, Halen, thank you for

1030
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,400
joining us.
Thank you for having me.

1031
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:49,300
Thank you, Caitlin.
Caitlin also has a new Facebook

1032
01:03:49,300 --> 01:03:52,300
page called Caitlin's Creations,
right?

1033
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,400
Yeah, when we post this episode,
I'll go ahead and post a link to

1034
01:03:56,408 --> 01:03:57,800
that.
So if anybody wants to get

1035
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,900
something by Caitlin, They can
reach out to you, right?

1036
01:04:01,900 --> 01:04:04,800
And they do that for sure for
sure, right?

1037
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,200
Look look, this had a benefit
that you'd even know is going to

1038
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,900
happen.
I did not.

1039
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:16,500
Yeah, trying not to be read on
screen here but um, that's it

1040
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:19,300
guys.
You guys ready to jump into

1041
01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:23,500
sightings and stories?
I need to take a bathroom break

1042
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,100
good because we won't do that
until next week.

1043
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:32,400
Ha ha.
That's been another episode of

1044
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,300
the infinite.
Rabbit-hole podcast.

1045
01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:38,400
We'll see you next week when we
dive into the Beast of Bray Road

1046
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:42,900
stories and sightings bye.
Bye guys.

1047
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:44,600
Hi.