Legends of The Deep- The Kraken

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Hey guys.
This is Drew Schmidt from the

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random anything and you're
listening to the infinity Rabbit

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Yeah.

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I've been listening to you guys
for a while.

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Now I got exposed you guys from
Asher's from Wednesday.

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We talk weird.
Keep up the great work, love it.

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Welcome back to infinite Rabbit
Hole.

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I'm your host Wes here to lead.
You on our journey where we

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delve into the legends of the
deep, which will hopefully be

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the beginning of a new series
for us covering many different

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creatures of the ocean that
brute space, these stories of

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old and some even based in
science.

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And fact, today, we are covering
the legend of the mighty

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crackit, which may be one of the
most famous and well-known, out

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of all the tales that originated
at sea.

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Today, we have with us.
Jacob, how you doing today?

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My back hurts, but I'm here and
I'm ready to hear about the

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Kraken and hear what you see
what you cover it.

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I know Jeremy and I kind of got
into the crack and when we were

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talking about the Bermuda
Triangle, a little bit but like

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their version of the crack and
so I'm stoked to see what else

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there is.
There's there's a lot and also

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at the same time, not a lot that
makes sense.

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It was a lot to go through, to
be honest but it's next.

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We have Jeff Jeff man.
Yo what up, how are you doing?

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I'm doing good man.
Actually just took a shot of

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cracking prior to this, not even
knowing that you were Being that

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the Kraken.
That happens to be what I'm

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sippin on at the moment as well.
I might have to skedaddle out of

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here while you're doing one of
these paragraphs and grab me one

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real quick.
But yes, I'm good.

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I'm ready.
Let's go cracking.

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Elias and last but certainly not
least.

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We have Ken's are, how are you
doing today?

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I'm pretty pretty good.
Actually, how about you Wes?

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I'm doing pretty good.
I'm tired here, but I'm feeling

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good.
I'm ready to talk about it.

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That's good.
I'm excited.

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I like cracking.
Yes.

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Yeah.
Cracking the the creature and

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the liquor is to my favorite
things.

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I want to feel included.
I'm drinking a Monster which

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some would consider the Kraken
to be a monster.

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So there we go.
Very true, I'm not a drinker but

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I gotta go Stack Up.
There you go.

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It's about as close to cheers to
that.

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People still do crazy things.
I like that.

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You have the picture behind you
right now.

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Oh yes.
How are you doing this on this

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program?
I tried to do it last episode we

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record.
Excuse me.

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I got a new webcam.
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with they called camera Hub has
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So I can I can have this or I

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can do our logo.
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like it's backwards.
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It looks like it's backwards for
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So yes, we are covering the
Kraken and you know, for me the

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ocean has always been something
that's held a special place in

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my heart.
You know, growing up in Florida,

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right next to the ocean.
I mean, I was literally within

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walking distance of the beach
and then, you know, once I

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graduate high school and join
the Navy, you know, going on

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deployment, like I loves being
out to sea and it's still one of

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my Fondest Memories of my time
in the Navy, and It's always

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fascinated.
Me wondering what all maybe just

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below the surface you know
because there's still a ton that

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we don't know about the oceans
and what's still down there.

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You know, waiting to be
discovered.

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What are you guys?
How do you guys feel about about

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the ocean as a whole, dude.
So I have this Theory.

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I'm sure is not my theory but
you know, I feel like there's

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probably a super Advanced
civilization down there.

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You know, giant machines and
like, in the abyss.

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Yeah, yes, if this is a
documentary, there's Gotta Be

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Where It's At least.
Got to be like an entrance into

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the hollow Earth or something
down, you know, down in the

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depths.
But yeah, there's probably all

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kinds of crazy shit down there.
Yeah.

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That this is one of my all-time
favorite movies.

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I love that movie.
So good.

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This up here.
I mean, so there used to be the

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legends of like the giant squid,
right?

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And then what I like 20 years
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actually is a giant squid, like
a forgot how big the thing was,

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but it was discovered a new type
of squid.

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That's apparently the biggest
thing squid they've ever seen in

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their, you know, in the history.
And I mean, it's something like

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that can just go undocumented
for so along with stories and

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legends to back it up.
Then I can't see why there

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wouldn't be the crackin or you
know the Kraken is very wide

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term for many different types of
sea creatures.

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Depending on, you know, location
and where it's at, its kind of

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all summed up into the Kraken,
right?

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And that's popularize through, I
think Oh was it Clash of the

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Titans?
And then there was the Pirates

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of the Caribbean franchise they
had the Kraken and stuff and

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they both looked different and
But honestly if there's

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something as big as the giant
squid and blue whales and all

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kinds of stuff and those are at
a level that we can get to, then

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I don't know.
You know, the Marianas Trench is

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gigantic and it's super deep,
but I've heard that it's not the

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deepest trench that's in the
ocean or it could not be that.

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It's just the deepest discovered
trench in the ocean.

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So what is truly down there,
right?

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We've probably, I think we've
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ocean and the animals in it.
So sure.

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I mean, why not, why couldn't
there be, you know, maybe it

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maybe, or they were at one
point, right?

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That there was some sort of a
fact behind all the, the myths

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and legends.
So yeah, it doesn't bother me

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one bit to think about it.
I personally don't like the

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ocean because I like to be able
to see what's underneath me when

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I'm swimming.
So I swimming in Florida was Not

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bad because you know you could
see 100 feet away from you but

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generally speaking you know
especially here on the West

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Coast.
It's really dirty water so you

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can't really see underneath you
so it's just like a nope, I'm

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good.
Okay, so your it's not that you

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don't like the ocean.
Is that you don't like knowing

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what's in the ocean?
No, I yeah, I just don't like

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the mystery of what's around me
and not necessarily even like

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sharks.
Like I don't want to step on a

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broken piece.
Glass when I'm going up to the

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into the shore, you know,
something like that.

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It's just all kinds of stuff.
I don't want to step on a dirty

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needle, you know, because I'm in
California, it's just, you know,

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whatever it maybe I just like to
be able to see.

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And so for that reason, I don't,
you know, really go in there

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very much except for, when I was
in the Bahamas, I did some

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snorkeling.
There it was pretty cool.

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Yeah, yeah.
It's a beautiful down there for

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sure, crystal clear water.
Mmm, it's amazing.

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Oh yeah.
That's why.

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I like I don't necessarily
swimming them because they're

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really cold but the most of the
rivers and some of the Lakes up

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here like crystal.
Clear.

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So that's why I like swimming in
The Lakes because for the most

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part I can see what's underneath
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The ocean to me, I love the
ocean.

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I'm from Alberta where there's
just Lakes, barely any lakes.

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So when I moved to the West
Coast and I had the ocean and my

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back Yard.
I thought it was the coolest

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thing and the ocean out here is
gross.

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I want, I don't want to go
anywhere near it.

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I just like looking at it.
The deeper, the water, the more

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afraid of it.
I am.

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But I am so fascinated by what's
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Like Jake said, I think it's
only like five to seven percent

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of the ocean.
That's actually been discovered

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and it covers 70% of our planet.
That is an incredible stat to

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me, and it just blows my mind
and I, the ocean is so

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fascinating, but so terrifying.
All at the same time.

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Yes, So unknown, when you guys
have like off your Coastline,

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are you in like western Canada?
Yeah.

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So you have caddy off the shores
and in The Lakes you have the

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Ogopogo.
So either way, you know, if you

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can't see what's around you,
you're going to get eaten by an

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SE like, um, honestly, I what I
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Like, I said, I don't want to go
anywhere near it.

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I just like to look at it.
I'll walk down the pier, and

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I'll stand on the pier.
And I'll watch the fish in the

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water, but that's about as far
As I'll go yeah, yeah, ever

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since I was a kid, like going
into the ocean or even any large

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body of water like if I'm ever
at a point where like I looked

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down and like I'm in water cheap
enough that I can't see the

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bottom that like gives me the
heebie-jeebies, you know.

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Like I just like you know, it's
a massive pucker Factor going

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well sometimes Ted, you know and
you know it's not necessarily

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related to the Kraken but you
know, having seen As a kid.

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Yeah.
Like I just had that on

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irrational fear that, you know,
there's something that is going

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to like grab me or whatever, you
know you want to know what it

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was for me stingrays.
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I was like I think ten or eleven
was when Steve Irwin died and I

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thought he was the coolest guy
ever and then a stingray killed

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him.
And I was like, nope, I'm out.

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The ocean is not for me.
I was that point I had never

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seen the ocean before.
Or my life.

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So I was literally just thinking
the same thing that in jellyfish

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because I've been stung by a few
jellyfish.

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Yeah.
Like, you know, they weren't

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terrible.
It wasn't like a hospital trip

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or anything like that, you know,
but it was still sucked, you

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know.
And I can see it until it was on

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me and Tangled Up.
You know.

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I'm just like this is garbage.
Yeah, yeah.

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Stingrays are really cool.
Just yeah.

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I the way apparently, how case
was a chat to I mean, I've grown

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up in Florida, I'm sure Jeff
Gannon.

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Can back me up on this.
But like in Daytona, we had a

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jellyfish season and we had a
shark season.

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We called it more like a shark
week, but like jellyfish season,

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literally, the beaches are just
completely covered in jelly fish

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that washed ashore and whatnot,
and there's just like they're

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everywhere in the water.
You can't like, going to water

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without touching one, you know?
And I've been in the water, you

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know, like surfing or just
hanging out at the beach and

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like, had it, you know, Well, I
think the worst was I got stung

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by like, for jellyfish at once
one time.

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And if like like said, it's not
like the worst thing.

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Like I don't, I didn't need to
go to hospital or nothing but

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it's just very uncomfortable and
it's just a very irritating pain

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that like takes a long time to
fade, beasting it.

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Pulsates and it, it doesn't feel
good, but it's not like, oh no,

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I'm dying.
But it's like, man, I really

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wish I hadn't have had that
happen.

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Yeah, you gotta pee on it.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
And I'm all out of When it

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happens, you know, just how it
works, you know.

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Yeah.
Up here to pee and get stung by

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jellyfish and I'm all out of P.
Yeah.

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But also, you know, you know,
growing up surfing, there was

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times like shark, like what we
called Shark Week was sharks,

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would follow, you know, they're
the fish that they eat into

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like, knee-deep water, you know,
during certain times of the year

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Year.
So you could literally be in

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needy waist-deep water and OB
sharks in the water.

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And I've literally been, like,
just like waist-deep water felt

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something brush up against my
leg.

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I look down and I see the, you
know, the tale of a shark

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swimming away.
And I'm just like, oh, awesome,

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cool.
All right.

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Okay, that is super cool to me,
though, you know, Works don't

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scare me like they do most
people.

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I mean, they kind of freak me
out but like, I don't know, it's

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more.
The idea of what they could do

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rather than when I actually see
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Oh, yeah.
Don't get me wrong.

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I'd be nervous.
But like that would be pretty

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kind of cool.
Personally say fresh-caught

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shark the other day.
Hell yeah.

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Cousin went fishing.
Five minutes from here and

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caught a bonnethead shark and we
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Delicious.
Yeah.

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I'm trying to catch a leopard
shark down here in SoCal.

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That's my goal before we leave
this area is to get a leopard

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shark.
Anything over three feet and you

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can you can take it home with
you and just got tipped off on

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the where to do it and what bait
to use that I've been doing.

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In the wrong spot with the wrong
bait.

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And I was like, oh, they're like
you're over there.

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You're over here, right?
I'm like, yeah, they're like,

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what bait are using.
I was like a, like mackerel.

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I think, and he's just like, oh
yeah.

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He's like you are in like the
prime area for leopard sharks.

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You need to start using shrimp.
He's like, I don't care.

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Go to the grocery store, get
some raw shrimp thrown on your

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hook and hook it out there and I
guarantee you snatch one like 20

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minutes.
Yeah, I'm like, man, I spent

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hours days.
Yeah.

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My dad, and our neighbors.
On the street.

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We lived on used to go fishing
all the time on the jetty down

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at Ponce Inlet in Florida and
they would catch shark all time

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Shovelhead freaking I think they
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head.
One time I forget what other

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sharks there are.
But I mean, typically, they're

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only like three feet or so, you
know, the and the ones that I've

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seen the water brush up against
my leg, no more than three maybe

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four feet.
No, right.

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Not enough to like give you a
life-threatening injury but

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enough to deal.
Some decent damage.

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Enable some toes.
Yeah, yeah.

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But you know most shark don't
they don't care for our Taste of

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our meat, you know, they'll bite
thinking, we're something else

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and then realize, oh no, I don't
like you like, oh and then going

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our way, you know.
So there's at least that kind of

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Peace of Mind in a way you're
not going to get eaten.

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But you'll bleed to death
depending yeah, yeah, yeah,

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yeah.
Solace.

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A thank you.
Thanks.

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You have to worry about like
going down the gullet, you know,

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drowning in a shark's mouth or
some shit, you know.

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That was an irrational fear of
mine as a kid.

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So hmm, Food For Thought, afraid
of the shark that was in the

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pool only.
It was only in the whole day

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when nobody else was around.
Yeah.

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Just nine the pool.
I'm literally so glad you said

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that because I had that I wasn't
going to bring it up because it

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sounds so dumb, you know.
But like you're in the pool by

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yourself and then I don't know
in my mind.

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Yep.
You know, and I'm just like, I'm

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out, you know, the first Ace
Ventura movie where he jumps

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where he falls inside the tank
because he thinks, you know,

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snowflake is in the tank.
Dragon around.

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So, I dad, I mean, grew up on
that sort of a comedy and stuff,

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you know, Monty Python, although
all those really funny movies,

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right?
And yeah, I mean, that was a

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classic in that Owens household.
And we had, my parents had a

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swimming pool in their backyard
and they also showed us Jaws

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when we were like eight.
Right?

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So, so yeah, we go Night
Swimming because in Fresno,

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California, it's, you know,
middle of summer.

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It's 110 outside at Night.
Right?

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So we're doing some night
swimming or whatever and are

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maybe like 100 or 90 or
something, but it's still hot,

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but yeah, my dad would sit there
like when we were kids like you

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be like done.
Yeah.

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Dun dun dun dun, we can't see
anything.

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It's pitch, black outside and
then he goes down and grabs her

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legs and just starts dragging
her own stuff and it was all fun

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and stuff.
Yeah.

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When no one else was around.
There was absolutely a shark in

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there like 100%.
I'm like thanks.

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Yeah.
Yeah.

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I mean, talk about movies that
scarred scarred, Kids for Life.

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My parents took me to see
Arachnophobia at a drive-in

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theater.
When I was like, candy, I had

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been like, six, or seven or
something.

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And I just I'm terrified of
spiders to this day.

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I can't deal with it.
Like, it's I gotta get my wife,

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man, fucked me up.
I got to shut the bathroom door.

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I have this weird irrational
fear of plants in water in

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general.
It doesn't matter what kind of

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body.
You water it is if there's like

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I just generalize it all is
seaweed but yeah like I don't

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know if they're if I can see the
plant in the water I'm out.

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I'm not getting in that water.
I don't know what it was

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exactly.
But I was like an eight-year-old

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kid and I watched this show it
was one of those Teletoon late

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at night horror shows and it was
like a cartoon of a chick going

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swimming and then getting
grabbed by a piece of seaweed

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and drag Down.
And I was like, that is the end

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of swimming in water with
plants.

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I'm not getting dragged down
into the water by seaweed.

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I think, in hindsight is
ridiculous.

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But yeah, some legit fear I have
for me, was the, the original

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blob movie.
There's a scene.

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Yeah, I don't know.
I think it's like the 70s, but

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there's a scene where this guy
he's like, looking over a big

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old kitchen sink, like in a,
like a restaurant kitchen,

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right?
Big old giant sink and Hear

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something inside the drain.
So he's like, looking over it

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and then this big old pink blob.
Monster grabs, his face and

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pulls him into it and you can
see like the pipe underneath

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expanding and blood spraying out
of it and stuff.

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I watched that movie and I was
like ten and I was scared to

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take a shower for years, my
goodness, our parents and you

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know what, I'm more than likely
going to do, the exact same

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thing to my kids.
Because it's just so continues.

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The cycle can see your whole
childhood and not be scared.

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What is this?
Yeah, I want to hear about the

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crack and now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Let's uh, let's get back to the
crack and so I want to ask you

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guys in your mind.
Like when you think of the

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Kraken what do you picture in
your mind?

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Like what is what is a crack in
represent or serpent idea?

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It, it's giant serpent being
yeah.

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Like a like a wall.
Serpent like a water dragon,

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bro.
Like I think of I like Chinese

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depiction of a dragon, you know,
like they're like long with the

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legs and all the other than just
but they're like serpent, that's

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kind of guy, I think of okay.
The image I conjure up in my

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head is a is a giant squid but
the whole idea of the Kraken to

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me every time I hear cracking.
I just think of death honestly.

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It's fair.
Well actually I go straight to

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the the life of me.
I can't remember that the name

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of it was with the the Bahama
version which is the shark with

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the tentacles for legs.
So I have it written down

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somewhere but it's Lusca.
Yeah, that's it.

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Well, that's good.
Let's go or something like that.

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Yeah, that's what I think about.
If I had to rationalize it, it

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could just be a massive shark
that was eating an octopus or

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squid and it was seen by
somebody and they just put two

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and two together out of fear,
you know, Mind Playing Tricks

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and be like it was a shark head
with tentacle arms or whatever.

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But yeah, that's what I think
about something something crazy.

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Something that probably doesn't
exist.

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But you know, well why not?
Well I mean a lot of things

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that, you know, there's old
tales about theirs.

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Only some truth in them in some
form or fashion, you know, and

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we'll get into that with the
Kraken for sure, but, you know,

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sea monsters have played a
prominent role in myths and

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legends, most seafaring,
cultures on Earth and with such

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inspiring ocean, biodiversity,
it's not difficult to see why

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and there's probably no
legendary sea monster as

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horrifying as the Kraken.
According to stories, this huge

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many armed creature could reach
as high as the top of a sailing

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ships mainmast And a kraken
would attack a ship by wrapping

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their arms around the hall and
capsized in it.

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The crew would either drown or
be eaten by the monster.

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And what's amazing about the
stories is that of all the sea

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monster tails, you know that we
have There's the Kraken has the

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best evidence that it was based
on something real.

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But before we get into that,
let's talk about the origin of

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these Tails.
So if any of you had to guess,

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you know, where the Kraken
originally originated it, what

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would you, what would you guess
that Curiosity?

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Because lace.
Yeah Atlantis.

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What if it came from Atlanta is
how do we know about it to this

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day?
We do a lot of stuff from

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Atlanta.
That's a different episode tune

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in next week.
What about you cans are?

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Honestly, I, for whatever
reason, I feel like it's like a

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Japanese story or some sort of
Asian type story, Asian culture

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type story.
They always seem to have some

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really cool stories.
So, okay, you know, for me, I've

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never really honestly thought
about it.

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I just remember, you know,
reading about it or whatever and

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books when I was a kid and
whatnot or scene, In movies, you

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know, like Pirates of Caribbean,
which was awesome.

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Depiction in my mind of what a
cracking was.

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But when I found out where it
originally, you know, originated

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from, I was honestly blown away
because it originates in

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Scandinavian folklore, which is
pretty badass, in my opinion,

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you know.
Interesting.

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I think, you know, Norse
mythology, and all that is

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pretty, pretty epic, but it was
first mentioned in a manuscript.

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Written in the year 1180 and it
was written by a Norwegian, King

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named Kings fair.
I'm gonna go ahead and apologize

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to the listeners now because
there's a good chance I'm going

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to butcher to hell and a lot of
these names and words because

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you know, I don't speak that
language or anything like that.

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So I'm glad apologize up front
for for any of the

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mispronunciations, but It's
written in this manuscript and

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then it was also mentioned again
in an Icelandic.

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KERO Sagar called though the or
of our aadhar again probably

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pronouncing it wrong but that
date all the way back to the

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13th century and in that Saga,
it was given the name half gufa

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which roughly translates to
either.

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Siri corsi steamer do to it
using its own vomit as chummy

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bait to attract prey fish, you
know.

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So it was told that See, you
know the ocean steaming you know

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as like they didn't know what it
was at the time, it's believed

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that it was vomiting up whatever
chumming the waters, the drawing

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its prey and then you know
eating them and it was even

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depicted as consuming whales
ships and men and this tale.

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But there's also another
creature I'm not going to get

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too much into it but there's a
second creature that was Was of

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equal, size roughly, but was
depicted as something completely

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different from the Kraken or
half gufa however, you want to

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pronounce that, but it was
called the Ling Bakker which

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translates to Heather back.
And you know, when I first read

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that, I was like, what the hell
is Heather?

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Apparently that's a low-growing
evergreen shrub.

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But according to the Saga, the
Ling Bakr would Seafarers by

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posing as a Heather covered
Island.

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And when a crew landed on its
back, it would sink into the sea

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00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:51,200
driving the crew.
But getting back to the the Hoff

446
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,400
Buffa or however you pronounce
that in the Saga.

447
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,000
It was said that this creature
was so large that a ship could

448
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,700
sail through its open, Jaws
which appeared to be nothing

449
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:04,200
more than rocks and these Tales
sound Fantastical and are truly

450
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,200
entertaining.
But you know what could have

451
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,200
inspired these Tales, could have
been a real live in the flesh

452
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,900
creature.
Well hopefully we could provide

453
00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:16,200
some insight to that in this
episode.

454
00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:19,200
Now, the Kraken is usually
depicted as an aggressive

455
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,700
cephalopod by creature.
For those wondering what a

456
00:28:22,700 --> 00:28:27,500
cephalopod is see the like a
squid or octopus invertebrate.

457
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:30,300
Sea creature.
And perhaps the largest monster

458
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:33,500
ever imagined by mankind,
capable of destroying entire

459
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:37,500
ships and dragon Sailors to Doom
the exact description varies

460
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:39,400
from story.
To story, Storyteller to

461
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,300
Storyteller and Details.
Such as the number of tentacles

462
00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:45,100
in the color of skin often
change, but there are always a

463
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:48,600
few things that remain a
constant in these Tails one.

464
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:52,200
It's a giant monster too.
It has a huge terrifying, mouth,

465
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,100
three lives in the sea and for
comes out from the depths to

466
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:58,500
destroy ships, and eat
unsuspecting Sailors.

467
00:28:59,700 --> 00:29:03,200
And these Tales, they don't end
in Norse mythology, there are

468
00:29:03,208 --> 00:29:06,500
many cultures around the world
that have a myth or legend about

469
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:10,000
a tentacled sea monster as large
as an island capable of

470
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:14,600
engulfing and Sinking any ship
from ancient Greece where

471
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,100
Aristotle who lived in the 4th
Century, BC, describe the large

472
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:22,600
squid, which he called to 'this
sing sing it from the smaller

473
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,700
squid.
I guess that they knew about

474
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:30,700
called to this or instead of a I
don't know how to pronounce

475
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:33,200
this.
It's, I probably should have

476
00:29:34,300 --> 00:29:36,700
looked it up again before the
started episode, but it's a

477
00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:38,900
different spelling, but seems
the same to me.

478
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:46,100
But There's also plenty the
Elder who living in the first

479
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:50,400
century ad, describe the
gigantic squid in his natural

480
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:56,000
history with the head as big as
Cass arms, 30 feet long and

481
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,000
carcass Wayne 700 pounds.
Of course they didn't have

482
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,500
pounds and feet back then but
you know roughly translate it

483
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,300
from these Tails.
That's what they would equate to

484
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,900
and then there is the creatures
called Scylla and Charter Des

485
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,000
that Homer wrote about in The
Odyssey, which, you know, that's

486
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:21,600
Greek tale.
And then they're like a Jake was

487
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,000
talking about earlier the lusca
and the Caribbean.

488
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,100
And in Japan, they even have
their own version, that's called

489
00:30:28,100 --> 00:30:33,000
the Quorum.
You boy, chorim, oy1 to say

490
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,800
that's how it's pronounced and
then there's even the another

491
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,400
version in New Zealand, which
I'm not even going to attempt to

492
00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:43,800
pronounce this.
You know, I'll get a good of a

493
00:30:43,808 --> 00:30:53,500
shot but I'm guessing to Wicket.
Mutual Runge apologizing.

494
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:57,600
So any new There's out there
that may be listening, but yeah,

495
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:03,100
but it's let us know how to how
to actually say that if that's

496
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:08,800
the gift for real please.
But I find it fascinating that

497
00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:13,000
all these different cultures
around the world have similar

498
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,700
descriptions of this creature.
But these these, you know, these

499
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:21,300
cultures didn't have a
connection with one another at

500
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,500
the time, you know?
How is it that there?

501
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:29,300
Are these different cultures
around the world have such a

502
00:31:29,300 --> 00:31:31,500
similar description of this
creature?

503
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,500
You know, could it be that they
are all seeing the same, the

504
00:31:35,500 --> 00:31:37,000
same animal?
The same creature?

505
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:45,800
It's hard to say, but I think
that their most logical answer

506
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:51,000
would be that they're seeing,
they're seeing the same animal I

507
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,800
think so.
Yeah, I mean everything in our

508
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,800
society.
Has that same kind of thing to

509
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,600
wear.
I mean, freaking agriculture

510
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:05,100
pops up around the world and
when these people can't well as

511
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:08,200
far as we know, they weren't
connected or sailing across the

512
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,500
oceans although that might not
be the case.

513
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:14,300
But yeah I think that these I
think all these beings existed

514
00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:18,500
on some level like Giants or
Cryptids, you know, the Kraken

515
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:22,300
whatever it is.
It definitely existed in my

516
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,600
opinion way before.
Like the last ice age or during

517
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:27,700
the last.
I actually remember, they were

518
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:31,100
talking about the Box Saga, that
whole area land, that wasn't

519
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,900
affected like who may be in
there.

520
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:36,000
I don't know, but it makes sense
that those stories would carry

521
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,800
on and then be spread around the
world by, whatever ancient

522
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:43,600
civilization that, you know,
gave us all the math and the

523
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:49,900
things, you know.
Yeah. 100%, I mean, I think the

524
00:32:49,908 --> 00:32:53,100
most logical thing is that
they're all seen. the same

525
00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:58,300
creature, they just You know,
through tellings of, you know,

526
00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:03,900
Word of Mouth, you know, over
how many years, hundreds, tens,

527
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,600
tens, 20, 30 50, 100 years, you
know thousands of years you know

528
00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:13,500
they talk about these Tales seen
these creatures and over time

529
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,000
you know things get exaggerated
you know it's just a giant game

530
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,800
of telephone you know how did
you hear about what these

531
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Sailors so said this.
They saw you know, things like

532
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:28,700
that and it just ended up
growing Into you know, is these

533
00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:32,600
epic myths and legends that we
that we now know today?

534
00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:37,700
I mean, I love it, I think it's
awesome.

535
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:42,700
But I like to think that there's
a lot of truth to it as well.

536
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:46,000
You know, that's that's my
favorite part about it is that

537
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,900
there's they're based in truth.
You know, or some some truth at

538
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:56,300
least.
I think that it's more likely

539
00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:01,500
that they all saw.
The same thing that it was just

540
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:09,300
a global phenomenon or a global
animal that just didn't really

541
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,699
maybe it had a I don't know if
we like lined up all the

542
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:16,199
countries and stuff and we kind
of like made a line across the

543
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:21,900
globe.
Jeff, maybe we could see strong.

544
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:26,000
As I thought maybe we could see
like a clear, I don't know,

545
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,800
migration pattern or something
like that, right?

546
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,400
Like we see with some other
creatures, where they go from

547
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,600
north to south or whatever,
right?

548
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:39,600
And then along with, maybe not
exaggerating through oral

549
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,400
tradition, but maybe more along
the lines of, you know, there's

550
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:48,400
things that are obvious
mythologies and things that

551
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,800
could very well have been real
or still are real and maybe

552
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,500
along the lines of the
mythologies of the different

553
00:34:56,699 --> 00:35:00,100
areas and their own various
Legends like, you know, the

554
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:05,900
legends of the Greek gods
versus, you know, Legends to the

555
00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:08,400
same degree in Asian countries.
Right.

556
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,500
It's just like so they had their
own separate thing going on and

557
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:18,100
maybe that inspired that Change
more so than just a game of

558
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:21,900
telephone, maybe it was more so
like incorporating these

559
00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,700
creatures into their own, you
know, versions of Legend and

560
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:29,100
mythology that kind of gave it a
more Larger than Life, sort of

561
00:35:29,100 --> 00:35:34,200
aspect to it and also
Scandinavia which covers Sweden,

562
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:40,100
Denmark and Norway.
Covers about 1% of our listener

563
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,200
base, and we just probably lost
all of them.

564
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:49,600
Thank you, Wes way to go west,
or we may have gained more.

565
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:58,500
Hopefully, it's trying know,
that's also interesting is that

566
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:02,000
that area is also aware that
area was they were talking about

567
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,900
in the box.
Agon that might be.

568
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:08,900
That Ancient Ancient land, you
know, is that because they said

569
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:15,100
Helsinki was the North Pole, so
that area is the area.

570
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:19,800
So if that's where the story is
originated, maybe there's some

571
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:24,100
truth to the Box Saga and that
this ancient culture who saw

572
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:28,800
these things, you know, somehow
survived a hundred thousand

573
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:34,600
years, where the cataclysms and
you know, in that area, Yeah, I

574
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,800
mean I like to thank that, you
know, back there in these times.

575
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:44,400
You know, a lot of people think
that they know enough about the

576
00:36:44,408 --> 00:36:47,400
world that you know, I don't
know.

577
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,400
They think they know everything
there is to know, maybe you

578
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,500
know.
And then all sudden they see

579
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,600
this creature that is unlike
anything any man woman has ever

580
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,800
seen ever in their life, you
know, it's going to be revered,

581
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:05,300
you know?
It's going to be almost like

582
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:10,900
maybe almost like a god-like
figure and their life from that

583
00:37:10,900 --> 00:37:13,000
point forward.
You know, I'll send this thing

584
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,700
appears and then just as quickly
as it, you know, appears it

585
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:19,300
disappears or whatever, you
know.

586
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:26,000
I think it's it's fair to say
that you know, it just becomes a

587
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,400
part of that culture from then
on, you know.

588
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:34,800
And that's maybe why it these
tails Grew From, you know,

589
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,900
initially seeing these creatures
to what they are now you know

590
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:47,000
and also they talk about how it
is able to drag a ship down, you

591
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,800
know, our capsized, an entire
ship, how big were ships back

592
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:56,400
then, you know not not like what
we have today depending on the

593
00:37:56,408 --> 00:38:00,400
location, you know?
If you were in like I don't know

594
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,100
and like an England like in the
Medieval time frame.

595
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:08,900
You might get actually know like
more later on until like the

596
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,800
colonial time frame is when you
actually got like the the big

597
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,600
ships with a mass of mass and
all that stuff but a lot of

598
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,400
northern European countries
actually utilize ships that were

599
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,000
just like the Viking.
Longboats liking the French the

600
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,500
English, the pics you know the
obviously the Vikings you know

601
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,500
all that area.
They all used the Longbow style

602
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:33,100
ships which weren't very big you
know could carry.

603
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:37,200
What like, maybe 50 people, you
know, not very tall, masts and

604
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,600
stuff.
So really, if you compare it to

605
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,000
today, you'd say it was a large
boat, right?

606
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,700
A large sailboat, not a ship,
which they would have considered

607
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,800
a ship but for us would be like,
I know a ship is like, you know,

608
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,600
a yacht or a, you know, an
aircraft carrier or something

609
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,100
like that, you know, a floating
city versus back then which it

610
00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:00,900
was just a vessel that could
carry multiple people, you know,

611
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:03,900
and maybe bigger than a dingy,
you know, It's not even

612
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:08,100
something that I ever thought
about either.

613
00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:12,700
So, like, You just flip this
whole thing upside down for me

614
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:15,200
already like I'm totally looking
at this in a whole new light.

615
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,600
The the ship's back then were a
whole lot smaller than they are

616
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,700
now.
So the creature, the Kraken

617
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,800
probably wasn't nearly as big as
it seems now.

618
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,000
Probably and creature.
That's a lot smaller than what

619
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:38,100
the story portrays possibly.
I mean, but spoiler alert from

620
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:44,300
what we know now of giant squid
which, you know it's most likely

621
00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:50,900
what these the sailors of old
saw you know they can grow up.

622
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,200
They've been measured up to 46
feet long you know at least the

623
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:56,100
carcasses.
Yeah.

624
00:39:56,100 --> 00:40:01,300
But they found, you know.
And this believe that there's

625
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:06,200
some that could have reached up
lengths of up to 60 feet, you

626
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,000
know, and that compared to those
ships of that time.

627
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:14,100
That's big enough to wrap it
entire ship, you know, this

628
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:17,200
tentacles and whatnot.
Yeah.

629
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,100
It's I mean, I can't imagine.
I mean if you've ever seen the

630
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,100
movie Mask Master and Commander,
I love that movie.

631
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:27,800
Great.
Great movie.

632
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:33,200
But like Imagine back then when
they had ships of that size, I

633
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,200
couldn't imagine being a sailor
back then.

634
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,600
You know, there's so much
Unknown about the ocean in the

635
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:45,400
world as a whole, you know, and
it's just you and your crew and

636
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:47,500
doing whatever it takes to
survive.

637
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:52,000
And then, you know, if back in
those times of Vikings and

638
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:57,300
whatnot, you know, if you're on
these smaller ships in your out,

639
00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:01,000
You know, in middle C.
And one of these creatures came

640
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,100
up and it's as big or bigger
than your current Longboat, you

641
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:09,200
know, I can't imagine what I'd
be thinking, you know, at that

642
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,900
time, like I'd be terrified,
dude.

643
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:15,900
One of the like magical era of
humanity, man.

644
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:19,800
People when they didn't really
understand things and like,

645
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,300
everything had like a deep
purpose or meaning or like there

646
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:26,000
was some deity attached to it,
you know, like there was

647
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,300
something.
Yeah.

648
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,400
Something about that.
That's very like, I don't even

649
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:31,900
know the word.
You what was the first word I

650
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:35,800
used to go to remember, I
remember magical magical?

651
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200
Yeah, that's it, man.
You know what I mean?

652
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,300
Like, that makes sense.
It's like this.

653
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:46,500
Regardless of like the gods that
these ancient talked about that

654
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,900
they saw or whatever regardless,
if that's real or not their

655
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:52,500
experience with.
That is super real like when the

656
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:55,200
Thunder would strike and they'd
be like that's Thor, you know.

657
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,600
It's like they really believe
that.

658
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,600
So whether it's true or not,
They experience for them is

659
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,400
still as it's really true and
it's just like it's wild.

660
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,700
Yeah.
You know, like that's kind of

661
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:09,700
like the where I was going with
it is you know, your they're

662
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:13,200
still learning about the world,
they're exploring, you know,

663
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,800
there's no one person that has
seen everything there is to see,

664
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:22,000
you know, far from it.
No extremely little and the see

665
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,900
something like this you would
have to imagine that it was a

666
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:27,300
sign of some sort like you're
meant to see.

667
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,500
See it, you know.
And that's why I was saying like

668
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:34,600
may become maybe the became some
revered creature, you know, that

669
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,800
it became a part of their
culture, you know, from then on

670
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,100
and then became this Fantastical
mythical creature, you know, to

671
00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:49,700
the to their their culture.
And I think you know exactly how

672
00:42:49,707 --> 00:42:52,400
you described it as something
magical, you know.

673
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:56,400
And I like to think that things
that we don't understand.

674
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,700
Is Magic, you know, to us.
I like that.

675
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:04,300
I think that there's still
things like that out there

676
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:10,400
waiting for us to figure out.
Just for comparison for the

677
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,800
listeners.
So I just did a quick Google

678
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,000
search didn't get to page 3 on
this one but next time the

679
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:22,800
average Viking Longboat was
between 45 and 75 feet long and

680
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,500
generally held about 50 people
and sometimes could hold more

681
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:30,300
than 100 depending on the amount
of well availability of space

682
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:36,400
right today.
The average multihull sailboats

683
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,800
are between 40 and 45.
Five feet.

684
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,900
So basically, you know what we
would consider today as a

685
00:43:42,908 --> 00:43:47,600
sailboat is what they considered
to be a substantial size ship

686
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,800
that they could actually
transport a good amount of

687
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,600
people in.
So yeah, so definitely you know,

688
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,700
I think that if we are talking
about something that you know an

689
00:43:56,700 --> 00:44:03,300
animal, that's 45, feet long and
maybe could get bigger then this

690
00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:07,800
absolutely could have been, you
know, where this this story.

691
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:10,400
Dated.
And I agree that this, that it

692
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,800
was like, before scientists
could come and spoil all the

693
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,700
fun, you know, scientistic
coming but its way up in there

694
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:20,600
and be like, ooh, actually this
is a mollusk and blah blah,

695
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,900
blah, blah, and be like, you
know what?

696
00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:23,700
Shut up, you know, I want to
thank that.

697
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,700
This is some like crazy sea
creature that could eat you in

698
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:27,600
your sleep.
At any time.

699
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,000
You know, snatch you up out of a
window or something like that

700
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:36,000
and you get these kids to bed.
Yeah, it's just what a what a

701
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:40,600
cool time frame for Discovery
and figuring stuff out how to

702
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,900
Traverse the oceans in a Long
Boat.

703
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:47,500
You know, how to identify
things, and how to pass along

704
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:50,300
information.
And you know and maybe there was

705
00:44:50,300 --> 00:44:53,100
some some flubbing of the
numbers and stuff when it came

706
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:59,900
to you know, the if this was
Scandinavian, you know, legend

707
00:44:59,900 --> 00:45:03,200
or so they say I mean those
people were all over the place

708
00:45:03,300 --> 00:45:07,000
you know conquering different
areas and you know very well

709
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,400
could have made.
Add it all the way into what's

710
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,300
now currently the United States.
So, I mean, they were like all

711
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:14,900
over the place, they're trading
with other cultures they were

712
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:18,400
invading.
So say, you know, one of these

713
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,100
raiding parties at last a year
and right at the beginning of

714
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,800
their trip, like a month in,
they see one of these things.

715
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,100
And then on the very back, end
of it.

716
00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:29,400
Is when they're relaying the
information that they saw went

717
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,000
to their loved ones when they
return, you know how much could

718
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:38,000
a the lengthen, the the size
change in a year of just I

719
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,500
remember or, you know, reliving
that moment of the capsized ship

720
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:46,000
or whatever it was, you know,
maybe even if the ship was just

721
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,600
destroyed in a storm and the
dead bodies were being cleaned

722
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,800
up by one of these things, you
know, who knows.

723
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:54,200
But, you know, that, that
relaying information.

724
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,900
So, yeah, I mean it's entirely
possible that they were real or

725
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:02,600
are real and, you know, the
numbers could been flooded or it

726
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,800
could very well have been there.
They were massive squids that

727
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,700
would attack these Vessels.
Because when the heck do we

728
00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:13,800
know, you know, we're not going
across the ocean and a vessel

729
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,400
that big anymore.
Some people do sometimes where

730
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,200
they're like, I'm going to sail
around the world, you know,

731
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,300
those crazy folk.
But generally speaking if we're

732
00:46:22,300 --> 00:46:24,900
going across the ocean it's in a
container ship, a cruise ship

733
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:28,400
and aircraft carrier, some kind
of metal vessel, we're not doing

734
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,600
it in a wooden boat well some
people do but though, yeah,

735
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:37,400
those at four different breed?
Yeah.

736
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,000
I mean, They're much much braver
than me and the people of this,

737
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:45,500
definitely this time, period.
I mean, man, I can't even

738
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:49,900
imagine just like you don't you
just, you know, the open ocean

739
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:52,400
and you're just like, I'm just
going this direction to see what

740
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,300
I find, you know, and not
knowing what, what waits for you

741
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:02,200
out there.
And that's just like, my not

742
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,300
only that, not only not knowing
what's out there for you, but

743
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:07,300
thinking that there's something
out there for you.

744
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:10,700
Well, you thinking that Medusa's
out there somewhere thinking the

745
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,800
crack is out there.
So we don't I mean like And they

746
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,500
believed it.
Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's an

747
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:20,000
excellent point.
Start trading me Greeks and hear

748
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:24,900
about the harpies and be like
the, what now, to find the

749
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:29,700
mermaid, right?
Yeah, I mean that's, that's,

750
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,100
it's, it's crazy.
I mean, we would consider crazy

751
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:38,700
now in modern times, civilized
times, but mean that's just what

752
00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:41,100
they did.
And, you know, honestly, I

753
00:47:41,107 --> 00:47:45,000
think, you know, the human race
as a whole Those all the better

754
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,700
for it.
That there's there is those who

755
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:52,800
are willing to just, you know,
Venture into the unknown prefer.

756
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,100
Let's it's amazing.
Most of us wouldn't exist if

757
00:47:57,100 --> 00:48:00,600
that hadn't happened.
Well, if we all could just kind

758
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,000
of stayed in our tribes or
groups and never really spread

759
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,400
out anywhere, most of us
wouldn't exist, because most of

760
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,000
us are combinations.
There's, I've only met a few

761
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,800
people in my entire life that
were like, pure blood from Like

762
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,600
the area where they were from
originally like 100% Irish, you

763
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,900
know, or something like that.
Most people are a combination of

764
00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:25,300
a lot of different, you know,
genetics and things like that

765
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,300
from all over the place.
So a lot of us wouldn't exist.

766
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:31,900
If that was the case, I would
even venture to say that in this

767
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:38,100
current day and age, that it's,
it's a percentage of 1%, you

768
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:43,000
know, people that are pure.
If that, if at all, you know,

769
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,000
I'm saved.
Probably lower, I mean, yeah.

770
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,800
I mean that's why I meant like,
if at all like I I think it'd be

771
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,000
fair to say that there probably
isn't any pure pure blood or

772
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,000
whatever.
Quote unquote we're all

773
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,100
mudbloods.
Yeah.

774
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:03,100
Yeah.
You know we're all but we're all

775
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,600
the better for it as you know
separate.

776
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,800
Yeah he's an alien.
I'm actually Nigerian.

777
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:17,000
Yeah, yeah, you're not kidding.
No, not good.

778
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:20,300
I got DNA results.
I remember when he brought this

779
00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:25,900
up on his show, Shadow band.
He like you went he makes it a

780
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:29,700
really big point and I think
it's great actually how many

781
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:37,200
princess like one that's enough.
That's more than zero was

782
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:44,200
thinking about making shirts.
Well they say, I don't know, I'm

783
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:50,700
a Nigerian something like that.
Interesting fact, I was

784
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:57,300
actually, I'm pretty sure that I
was a fill the quota when I went

785
00:49:57,300 --> 00:50:01,200
into boot camp at a California
and my recruiting station and

786
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,000
marked me as African-American
for my my paperwork.

787
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,600
I I show people every once in a
while I print off my entry

788
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,900
paperwork and I the block is
checked for African-American and

789
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:17,600
I'm just like well there you go.
There you go.

790
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:21,800
It's hilarious.
No one changes it.

791
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:24,000
They all saw me.
Do it through.

792
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,500
Alright, yeah.
Hey.

793
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:30,300
Whatever.
I mean, I guess I could have

794
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:33,200
been let it ride on African, you
know, or something like that but

795
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,300
still.
Hey, that's just it was silly.

796
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,700
I mean being African doesn't
necessarily mean you know the

797
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:41,700
color of your skin dictates you
know.

798
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,600
Yeah whatever.
You know.

799
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:45,100
I was just sitting here thinking
about it.

800
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:50,600
I was like you know how many you
know Asian people I've met that

801
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,100
have like English accents
because they're from England,

802
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:54,400
you know?
I just like we're there's so

803
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,500
many people mixed up all over
the place it really doesn't

804
00:50:56,500 --> 00:50:57,700
matter.
Yeah.

805
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,100
It doesn't, you know I was
literally just like thinking in

806
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:03,700
my head I was like, Egypt in
Africa.

807
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:12,300
You know, they don't, they are,
you know, desert people, you

808
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:18,200
know, tan skin, you know, I was
trying to be feel like special

809
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:23,200
and now I feel crushed.
So, what do you feel crushed?

810
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,800
I just feel crushed.
You shouldn't being said, I

811
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,600
literally know.
No, a South African that I work

812
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:33,600
with and he looks just like me.
So yeah, I'm not special at all.

813
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:39,100
Well, alright.
Yeah.

814
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:44,100
All right.
So anyways you're in though nice

815
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,500
hell yeah bro.
I don't know what else to say

816
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:56,000
about Revelation to me, you
don't say nothing, just we were

817
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:00,500
talking about it.
So uh hey, I have no idea where

818
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:02,800
I'm from other than what my
family's told me.

819
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,100
But, you know, they say that
part, native American, that have

820
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:12,200
family, that's Native American.
And then also like, Scottish

821
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:19,700
Irish German.
Mainly or, you know, English, I

822
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:22,300
guess to.
I mean, my last name is king

823
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:26,800
and, you know, are all of our
surnames come from, you know,

824
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,700
back in the day, you know, from
what ever your family did,

825
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,900
whatever their their part in
society was, you know, and I

826
00:52:36,908 --> 00:52:39,600
don't know, maybe there is royal
blood in me for.

827
00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:43,000
I don't know.
I've never looked I think about

828
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:46,300
it every now and then but, you
know, I did.

829
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:47,800
I forget about it.
I'm just like, yeah, whatever.

830
00:52:49,100 --> 00:52:53,300
I've traced it back on my dad's
side, I traced back to the last

831
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:58,000
king of the Scots, so
technically, I'm Nigerian prince

832
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:00,900
So you're the guy that's been
emailing me.

833
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Just going to say keep an eye on
your inbox.

834
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,300
I might be jumping.
True story though.

835
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,200
What.
All right, I mean, I do believe

836
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,100
that there's Native American in
me because I have naturally

837
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:18,600
black hair like legit black
hair.

838
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,900
So, I do believe that, you know,
I think is my mom told me that

839
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:30,800
Mom and Dad told me that I don't
know what nation or tribe or

840
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,000
whatever.
But enough in me that give me

841
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,900
naturally black hair.
All right.

842
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:47,800
Jake Now, I'm for real, I mean,
I don't have enough to really

843
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:51,300
show nowadays, but, you know,
let's continue but get the

844
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:54,300
23andMe or ancestry.com,
whatever.

845
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:58,000
And, and find out for sure.
You have that speculating where

846
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,300
you could just know.
Yep.

847
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:00,800
That costs money.
You know.

848
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,900
I just want to do that but I
things I'll send you both

849
00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:06,800
something and you can spin your
little vial and send it off and

850
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,500
then find out exactly who you
are, we?

851
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,500
Like wow I'm exactly like that.
They use the DNA to make clones

852
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:15,300
of you.
I was just going to say just a G

853
00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:20,800
major then they had your DNA
forever.

854
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,600
Jake.
Oh well you remember Star Wars

855
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,000
the Clone Army.
They don't want me.

856
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:34,500
I'm too lazy.
Anyways, anyways okey-dokey.

857
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:43,300
So now that we've talked about
the first origins of the Kraken

858
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,900
and later Tales told from other
cultures around the world let's

859
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:53,600
get into some science and fact
that's my one of my favorite

860
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,200
Parts about all this tip.
All of these tales that there's

861
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,300
a lot that is based in fact, Or
at least we can now say was

862
00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:03,500
based.
In fact.

863
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:08,000
So scientists, archaeologists,
and literary Scholars alike.

864
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,200
Believe these are early Sailors.
Really did see a giant creature

865
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,600
that terrified them and that the
Kraken from Tales of old was

866
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,100
most likely a giant squid which
can grow up to 46 feet long and

867
00:55:19,107 --> 00:55:23,100
weigh over 600 pounds with some
scientists estimating that the

868
00:55:23,100 --> 00:55:26,700
largest of these creatures reach
up to 60 feet in length and

869
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:30,100
weigh up to 1,000 pounds.
Now I don't know.

870
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:35,300
You but I mean 60 feet.
That's that's freaking huge.

871
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,100
You know?
I mean if I came across

872
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:41,800
something like that In the, in
the ocean today, I would

873
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:47,300
definitely poop my pants.
Imagine my semi truck with the

874
00:55:47,300 --> 00:55:49,900
trailer.
That's that's yeah.

875
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:53,800
Roughly like little bit over.
But yeah, roughly about 60 feet

876
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,900
there, which is, that's huge.
Yeah, like I was literally going

877
00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:59,900
to say the put that in
perspective that's longer than a

878
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:04,000
school bus, you know.
And that's that's pretty nuts.

879
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,400
Not it's hard to really say.
If there ever was a giant squid

880
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,700
large enough, Take down whole
ships, are not because even to

881
00:56:11,700 --> 00:56:14,700
this day, they remain extremely
Elusive.

882
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:19,100
And to the point that they were
first filmed in their natural

883
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,300
habitat in 2012, which wasn't
that long ago.

884
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:28,500
And, you know, in the grand
scheme of human history, but the

885
00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:31,200
very first time, they were ever
caught on video at all was in

886
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,000
2006.
You know, and that was one that

887
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,600
was at, you know, on the surface
of the ocean which It's believed

888
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,500
that when we've seen him, you
know, in that shallow of water,

889
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,800
is due to them, either being
sick injured or something like

890
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,500
that.
So the way they act or whatever

891
00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:53,900
may not be how they, you know,
their actual temperament and

892
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:59,100
their native, you know, depth I
guess natural death, natural

893
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:03,000
habitat.
Like I said that that wasn't

894
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,600
that long ago and the grand
scheme of human history.

895
00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:10,200
And before that, the only
evidence that even existed First

896
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,900
even prove that they exist.
It was washed up bloated bodies,

897
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,700
you know, found them Shores.
You know I remember reading

898
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:22,000
about one that washed up and
saying all these thing.

899
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:26,400
You know, and at the time nobody
knew what the hell it was it was

900
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:30,700
just like, what is this giant
blob Mari?

901
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:35,500
What is this?
What is this?

902
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:38,400
Massive rotting blob.
Like what the what the hell is

903
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,300
this?
I No it imagine people's

904
00:57:42,300 --> 00:57:46,000
imaginations we're just going
nuts with what it could have

905
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:50,500
been but from what we know of
giant squids today, it's easy to

906
00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:52,800
see why Sailors would have found
them terrifying.

907
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,500
Imagine being out to sea and he
looked down at the water and

908
00:57:56,500 --> 00:58:01,100
find a creature with eight arms
to even longer feeding tentacles

909
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:05,800
coming off their body which the
body which is called the mantle

910
00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:09,300
has been recorded to be over 7
feet long by themselves.

911
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,100
Eggs, so that by itself is
already larger than any man

912
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,300
except for the few exceptions
and, you know, basketball

913
00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:23,500
players and what are not Giants,
nephrons Giants, go back to

914
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:29,000
Giants what the body itself?
Being seven feet long, that's

915
00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:33,800
that's massive.
And then two eyes is largest

916
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,600
dinner plates, which you know,
they have the largest eyes in

917
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,100
the entire Animal Kingdom.
You know, they've been reported

918
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:45,800
up to a foot in diameter like
that's nuts, but it makes sense.

919
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:50,100
When you, when you take into
account their natural habitat is

920
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:53,700
is way down deep, you know,
where there's hardly any light

921
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,200
at all.
And so the eyes are much bigger

922
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:59,600
to allow them to take in as much
light as possible to see their

923
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:04,000
prey be able to hunt.
And to me it's just extremely

924
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,300
fascinating that such a creature
exists and in the modern day.

925
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,800
We know hardly anything about
them, but one thing we do know

926
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,500
is that the main Predator to the
giant squid is a sperm whale

927
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:20,500
which by itself has fantastic
Tales, you know, the the most

928
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:25,900
well-known being Moby-Dick,
which I read as a kid and it was

929
00:59:25,900 --> 00:59:31,100
written in Old English and It
was nearly impossible to read,

930
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,300
had to use a.
I had to use a lot of context

931
00:59:34,300 --> 00:59:38,300
clues to understand, what the
hell, I was reading, you know,

932
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:43,000
because it makes a whole lot of
sense, but sperm whales by

933
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,900
themselves are the largest of
the toothed whales and a largest

934
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:49,700
tooth predator in the world with
males.

935
00:59:49,700 --> 00:59:53,800
Averaging 52 feet in length and
some having been recorded being

936
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:59,000
up to 68 length.
And how do we know that?

937
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:01,300
This is the natural predator to
the giant squid.

938
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,800
Well, because we found the
remains in the stomach of sperm,

939
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:10,800
whales, and even giant sucker
scars in the whale skin, which

940
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:16,300
to me is like gnarly is how like
but like totally like I do just

941
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:19,300
badass and same time like this.
That's sick.

942
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,900
Yeah, there's there's lots of
animals seafaring animals.

943
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:28,800
I should say that bear the scars
of contact with other animals or

944
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,700
even Humans, you know, from
manatees with prop scars on

945
01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:37,100
their back to, you know, sharks
that, you know, there's been

946
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:40,800
sharks that are like missing
parts of their body from, you

947
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,200
know, fights with other sharks
or other larger Predators who

948
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,000
knows these these scars on the
sperm whales?

949
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,300
Just, it can only mean that
they've come into contact with

950
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:58,100
one another and the giant squid
is one of the main prey for

951
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:01,600
sperm whales.
It's not the say that giant

952
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,300
squids are going out there,
sperm whales either.

953
01:01:03,700 --> 01:01:06,400
But I mean if it's been attacked
by a giant whale of course it's

954
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,500
going to try to defend itself
because you know who wants to be

955
01:01:09,500 --> 01:01:14,500
eaten.
You know, but I like to imagine

956
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,100
what that would be like, you
know, being something like

957
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:20,800
straight out of 20,000 Leagues
Under the Sea, you know, like

958
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:25,300
hmm such great.
Such a great story.

959
01:01:26,100 --> 01:01:31,100
And one of the, one of the many
reasons, I love the ocean and

960
01:01:31,100 --> 01:01:33,900
stuff like that.
Maybe that's why it attacked

961
01:01:33,900 --> 01:01:35,900
these ships.
Because it looked like a sperm

962
01:01:35,900 --> 01:01:40,100
whale, and it's like, oh, that
fuckers coming to get me.

963
01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:43,600
I'd better get it first.
Yeah, let's go.

964
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:49,500
I just solved the problem.
It's a very real possibility.

965
01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:53,900
I mean, most shark attacks, you
know, happened with Surfers.

966
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:58,800
Which from down below.
Looking up, a surfer on a

967
01:01:58,808 --> 01:02:04,200
surfboard looks like a seal, you
know, so it could be as easy,

968
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:08,700
you know, easily explained as
being a stake of mistaken

969
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:11,500
identity.
I don't know, it's a good

970
01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:15,700
question but we don't know
enough about them to really say

971
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:18,100
for sure, 100% one way, or the
other.

972
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,900
There are some long boats out
there and see if those instincts

973
01:02:22,900 --> 01:02:27,300
kick in.
Let's do this science experiment

974
01:02:27,300 --> 01:02:30,700
time.
I mean there's there's literally

975
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:36,300
at any given point any given
time thousands of ships out to

976
01:02:36,300 --> 01:02:40,600
see big and small.
I would say I mean and still

977
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,800
they're still, you know, stories
report it to this day of

978
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,700
strange.
Things seem seen at Sea, you

979
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:49,400
know.
So who's to say that It's still

980
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,800
not happening, it's up for each
one of us decide on our own

981
01:02:53,100 --> 01:02:55,300
boats, go missing a lot in the
ocean.

982
01:02:56,200 --> 01:03:00,000
So Who knows all those birth
farts.

983
01:03:02,300 --> 01:03:05,100
Is listen to the period of
triangle know that there's

984
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:08,500
massive methane bubbles that are
released from the crust of the

985
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:10,700
earth and that they capsized
ships because they pop

986
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:13,700
underneath them.
Yeah, Earth farts.

987
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:18,500
Yeah, it's good description.
And what they smell like,

988
01:03:19,700 --> 01:03:21,300
whatever methane smells like I
suppose.

989
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:27,700
Yeah, it's Cheese.
Louise.

990
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:33,000
Your last words, you are blaming
the person next to you for

991
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,100
ripping a massive fart, then you
fall into a thousand-foot Chasm

992
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:41,400
because the bubble pops
underneath you whoever smelt it,

993
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,000
dealt it.
Yes, said, the brine you did,

994
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,600
what?
Yeah, that's right.

995
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:51,000
They're probably laughing before
they drowned then, you know

996
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:55,000
shit.
Imagine that a colossal squid

997
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,100
coming after you.
I was just like because you said

998
01:03:58,100 --> 01:04:01,600
that, they have scars on the
sides of Wales.

999
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,600
And I'm sitting here and
thinking, I was just like, oh

1000
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:07,700
yeah, they've got like, like,
like teeth on their tentacles

1001
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:12,700
and so I like looked him up and
on the suckers they have these

1002
01:04:12,700 --> 01:04:15,000
serrated edges and stuff, they
look like zombies.

1003
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:18,600
But it's and then on the very
tips of their like the pointy

1004
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,700
ends of their tentacles, they
have these hooks all over it on

1005
01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:25,900
the suckers to.
So basically they just grab &

1006
01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:30,800
Drag, could you imagine like,
whether it was back then, or

1007
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:34,800
today, who cares?
But, you know, say you fall off

1008
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,900
an aircraft carrier.
And then there you are waiting

1009
01:04:38,900 --> 01:04:42,000
for the search-and-rescue team
to come pick you up but instead

1010
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,400
of them coming to get you, you
get Wrapped Around Your Body by

1011
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,100
suckers with claws and teeth in
just pulled into the depths.

1012
01:04:53,500 --> 01:05:01,700
See, I don't understand, you
know, it's all go surfing to me

1013
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,400
more terrifying than the
tentacles themselves.

1014
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,300
Is the beak and behind the beak,
is a mouth with teeth.

1015
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:17,900
Also, you know, like I don't
want to imagine that, you know,

1016
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,900
they have the a arms and then
two extra tentacles that are

1017
01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:25,700
longer than their eight arms.
You know, that can shoot out and

1018
01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:29,800
basically grab you and just
bring you in and then all you

1019
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:36,200
see, is this giant gaping beak,
you know, like hell no, aw hell

1020
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:42,400
no to know.
No, you know, no, thank you.

1021
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:44,800
I don't, I don't want to
imagine.

1022
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:49,800
I mean, I'd love to see one but
like maybe in like a museum or

1023
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,100
something, you know?
I mean, I believe in the UK.

1024
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,100
Okay, I think it's in the UK.
They have a preserved body of

1025
01:05:57,100 --> 01:06:01,300
one, you know, edits like full
length, or at least the length

1026
01:06:01,300 --> 01:06:05,200
of the, what's preserved at the
body and it's like, 46, feet

1027
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:07,900
long, or something like that, or
43 feet long, you know.

1028
01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:11,300
And I'd love to just be able to
see that in person because it's

1029
01:06:11,300 --> 01:06:14,100
one thing for, you know, someone
tell you, oh yeah, this is 40.

1030
01:06:14,300 --> 01:06:18,800
46 feet long, but then the see
it in person gives you know,

1031
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:22,200
where you can actually see and
feel it scale in person.

1032
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:27,200
Like that's holding Another
thing by itself, it's a big

1033
01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:30,000
gang.
Squid.

1034
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:38,400
That's a huge squid but that's
about all the info I have.

1035
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,600
I mean, like I said earlier in
the beginning of episode,

1036
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,800
there's a lot of info and but
there's also not a lot, you

1037
01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:50,900
know, because like I said,
there's still a ton a ton that

1038
01:06:50,900 --> 01:06:57,600
we don't know about the giant
squid and you know, as It's

1039
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:02,300
still, you know, it's just it's
an elusive creature that

1040
01:07:02,300 --> 01:07:06,600
sightings of it or very rare.
You know, first video first ever

1041
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,900
time.
Being videoed was 2006 first

1042
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,000
time ever being videoed and its
natural.

1043
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:15,700
Habitat was 2012, it's pretty
crazy.

1044
01:07:15,700 --> 01:07:19,200
But, you know, it was first
talked about all the way back

1045
01:07:19,500 --> 01:07:29,200
and first century, it's crazy.
And it seems, you know that it's

1046
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:33,900
remained unchanged for the most
part from how it was described

1047
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:36,300
back.
Then those Legends and myths, I

1048
01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:40,400
hope that we find find out more
about it in the future.

1049
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,300
I love to know more about it.
It's a fascinating creature.

1050
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,300
The ocean itself is just
mind-boggling.

1051
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,400
Awesome.
And yeah, I mean, what are you

1052
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,300
guys?
What do you guys think?

1053
01:07:55,300 --> 01:07:59,700
You know, knowing that it's, you
know, Miss were most likely

1054
01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:05,900
based on the giant squid I mean,
it makes sense, and I guess just

1055
01:08:05,900 --> 01:08:08,700
for like, my, my final opinion
on, it's actually the same as,

1056
01:08:08,700 --> 01:08:13,100
when I started, to be honest, I
still fully believe that there

1057
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:15,200
are things in the ocean that we
just don't know.

1058
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:19,800
About, probably big things to
mass of things, maybe even

1059
01:08:19,899 --> 01:08:23,800
aliens, I don't know.
But, you know, the idea that it

1060
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,000
gets carried on generation to
generation culture, to culture.

1061
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,399
It's just, you know, I'm sure
that there's something down

1062
01:08:31,399 --> 01:08:33,300
there.
Be a giant squid.

1063
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,899
And if they've, if they seen
some that are, you know, nearly

1064
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:40,100
50 feet and they estimate all,
it could get up to 70, 80 feet,

1065
01:08:40,100 --> 01:08:45,899
maybe go back, a thousand years.
how do we not, how do we know

1066
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,500
there wasn't one that was 500
feet.

1067
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:52,700
You know, I'm glad you brought
that up because I was thinking

1068
01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:55,700
earlier when we were talking
about it, you know, the first

1069
01:08:55,700 --> 01:09:00,300
tales about this worth you know
how many thousand years ago, you

1070
01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:03,800
know, and we talked about this
in the Giants episode, I

1071
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:07,600
mentioned that, you know,
thousands of years ago, the

1072
01:09:08,300 --> 01:09:12,200
oxygen content of the atmosphere
was much greater than it is now

1073
01:09:12,500 --> 01:09:16,100
which allowed creatures to be
way bigger than they are now.

1074
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:22,399
I mean The fact There Was, You
Know bugs and insects as big as

1075
01:09:22,700 --> 01:09:27,800
you know Volkswagen Beetles and
what not like we do.

1076
01:09:28,700 --> 01:09:30,200
Yeah.
Which is crazy.

1077
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:35,600
So if it could be insects and
you know, other creatures being

1078
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,300
this large, why not sea
creatures as well.

1079
01:09:39,100 --> 01:09:44,300
I mean we already know of, you
know the Megalodon mean this

1080
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:48,000
massive Predator back, you know,
back then.

1081
01:09:49,300 --> 01:09:52,899
But it's not around today
because it's well at least we

1082
01:09:52,899 --> 01:09:55,400
think it's not around today.
What?

1083
01:09:55,500 --> 01:10:02,700
Getting Shadow their own?
Yes but you know we'll

1084
01:10:02,700 --> 01:10:04,500
definitely going to get into
that.

1085
01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:10,700
But that in itself is another
extremely fascinating thing that

1086
01:10:10,700 --> 01:10:15,700
there's these creatures that
were that large and I was

1087
01:10:15,700 --> 01:10:18,500
recently a few months.
Well I guess it was back in

1088
01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:23,300
April, I was at the Museum of
Natural History in DC and they

1089
01:10:23,300 --> 01:10:26,700
have, they have like a
full-scale like Megalodon like

1090
01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:29,000
thing in there and it's just
like a while.

1091
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,400
I walked around a corner, not
expecting to see it.

1092
01:10:31,700 --> 01:10:33,300
And I was just like, oh shit.
Yeah.

1093
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:39,900
That's it's just crazy.
Like, damn, like a real-life

1094
01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:44,500
Jaws.
But uh, yeah, yeah, I think

1095
01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:47,100
they're definitely real.
I'm team cracking.

1096
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,700
Hell yeah.
Cheers to that bro.

1097
01:10:50,900 --> 01:10:55,400
Hashtag cracking is real.
I'm also team Kraken, but the

1098
01:10:55,400 --> 01:11:00,400
animal not the drink.
I dunno do not partake, no mo

1099
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:09,000
but I yeah, I mean I'd like it
to be You know, in my heart I'd

1100
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:13,200
like it to be some crazy looking
animal, right?

1101
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:18,500
Like one thing that we we go
back on quite a bit.

1102
01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:23,500
Is the Platypus right?
Where the bat that it can, it's

1103
01:11:23,500 --> 01:11:28,300
a mammal that uses echolocation
or the Platypus because it's,

1104
01:11:28,700 --> 01:11:31,900
you know, mammal that lays eggs
and it's got, you know, toxic

1105
01:11:31,900 --> 01:11:34,400
Spurs on it and all kinds of
wild stuff.

1106
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:38,800
And truth be told we have way
more Almost than just that that

1107
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:43,400
are seemingly mixtures of
different things.

1108
01:11:43,900 --> 01:11:48,400
So really when it comes to like
the likelihood that a shark with

1109
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,200
technical, you know technical
legs would exist.

1110
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:57,600
I mean it sounds crazy.
But is it really all that crazy?

1111
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:02,200
Whales used to have legs?
I mean it's true and and they

1112
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,000
still will at some point they'll
come for us.

1113
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:10,400
But I think that The jury's out
on that one and whether or not

1114
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,300
it's like, you know, some of the
more crazy Legends but I

1115
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:18,800
certainly, I mean, we know the
colossal squid exist.

1116
01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:21,700
So sure.
And I agree with what, you know,

1117
01:12:21,700 --> 01:12:24,800
both, you know, Wes and Jeff.
But what you were saying is

1118
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,800
that, you know, why couldn't
there have been one.

1119
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,300
That was 500 feet long, and all
we have now are the ones that

1120
01:12:30,300 --> 01:12:32,900
are smaller that are you know,
whatever.

1121
01:12:33,100 --> 01:12:37,000
And it could be because of the
oxygen oxygen content.

1122
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:41,300
And that could have played a
part in, you know, the

1123
01:12:41,500 --> 01:12:46,500
availability of food, right?
That the smaller ones can

1124
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:50,100
succeed where the bigger ones
die out and maybe they're two

1125
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:51,700
different species.
I don't know.

1126
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,200
You know, because we have, we
have normal squid and then we

1127
01:12:56,200 --> 01:13:00,100
have colossal squid, and why
couldn't we have super duper,

1128
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:02,300
colossal squid, right?
Or something like that.

1129
01:13:02,700 --> 01:13:07,500
So yeah, I mean Super Duper
massive, colossal, squid, so,

1130
01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:11,000
yeah, I definitely believe that
there.

1131
01:13:12,100 --> 01:13:15,200
Was probably more truth to those
Legends than we give them credit

1132
01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,600
for that.
They weren't just an just

1133
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,500
another culture or another group
of cultures.

1134
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:22,500
Rather.
You know, looking at what you

1135
01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:25,600
first said about all these
different areas that at the same

1136
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:29,900
time had the same sort of a, you
know, a siding or a legend

1137
01:13:29,900 --> 01:13:31,400
surrounding it.
Mmm.

1138
01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:36,700
That's, they weren't just making
stuff up and saying, oh my gosh,

1139
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:38,700
they were so big.
You know, it could have been

1140
01:13:38,700 --> 01:13:41,100
because of the ship sizes and it
could very well have been

1141
01:13:41,100 --> 01:13:43,900
because these things Were
freaking massive, right?

1142
01:13:44,100 --> 01:13:46,100
And now maybe we just have the
leftovers.

1143
01:13:46,100 --> 01:13:48,300
Are the ones that haven't died
out all the way?

1144
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:51,100
Who knows?
But yeah, definitely like to

1145
01:13:51,300 --> 01:13:56,100
learn more about them as time
continues and you know, these

1146
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,300
elusive creatures get found out
more about.

1147
01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:02,900
I honestly think that our space
exploration is a gigantic waste

1148
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:06,500
of funding because I would much
rather know what's in all the

1149
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:10,200
deep dark cracks of, you know,
the Earth and inside of the, the

1150
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:14,100
water then I I would about some
stupid moon rocks.

1151
01:14:14,100 --> 01:14:18,000
I really could care less, right?
And so there's space squid, man.

1152
01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:21,100
This is a squid.
You watching needs of the space

1153
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:24,200
Mammoth, but I guarantee you'll
get that.

1154
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:29,100
But yeah, yeah, I I mean, I'm on
board.

1155
01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:31,900
I like it.
I like the the conversation,

1156
01:14:31,900 --> 01:14:35,800
the, the topic I think that it's
probably one of the more

1157
01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:38,400
plausible things that we've
talked about in a while.

1158
01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:41,700
I mean Bigfoot, we all seem to
kind of agree on it, you know.

1159
01:14:41,900 --> 01:14:45,000
We try to not be an echo chamber
but when it really comes to

1160
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,100
things that are like, very
suited, you know, or putting

1161
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:53,900
reality, like a scientific
discovery, that who knows?

1162
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,200
This could be very well.
The definition of cryptozoology

1163
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,500
is an animal that's unknown to
science.

1164
01:14:59,500 --> 01:15:02,000
But, you know, there's legends
about and stuff and then

1165
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,100
scientists Discover it like in
2012 by accident.

1166
01:15:05,100 --> 01:15:08,500
They see a colossal squid on a,
on a camera underwater.

1167
01:15:08,500 --> 01:15:11,200
So yeah, there you go,
cryptozoology.

1168
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,700
It's a great way to sum it up.
After she liked it.

1169
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:26,600
Yeah, I I like the idea that
there was this 500-foot creature

1170
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:32,500
just destroying ships because
like that's just awesome to me.

1171
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:41,300
Yeah, I know that but yeah, it's
so it's so hyped up and so

1172
01:15:41,300 --> 01:15:46,200
Fantastical.
It's too good to be true almost,

1173
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:49,600
you know?
So the idea of I like the idea

1174
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,900
of like I said, these Boats
weren't that big.

1175
01:15:53,900 --> 01:15:57,400
So like I said, earlier this
totally got flipped as upside

1176
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:59,700
down.
For me, these boats weren't that

1177
01:15:59,700 --> 01:16:02,200
big.
So these these giant squids

1178
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:06,600
which have always been around
for all, we know have just been

1179
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,900
carrying on with lives.
See their lives seeing this

1180
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:12,600
boat.
That looks like a sperm whale

1181
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,000
and is like that, guys.
Coming for me.

1182
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,000
I gotta get him before he gets
me.

1183
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,900
He takes down the ship.
Calls it a day.

1184
01:16:20,900 --> 01:16:23,600
That that's the end of it.
The squid safe.

1185
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:28,400
We have a kraken story from the
one Lone Survivor, or the one

1186
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:31,300
guy who saw it, or whatever the
case may be.

1187
01:16:32,900 --> 01:16:36,700
I like the Fantastical story,
but it makes me feel better

1188
01:16:37,300 --> 01:16:40,600
knowing more of a realistic
side.

1189
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:42,800
Makes me feel better about the
ocean.

1190
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,000
Yeah it's it's definitely
scarier thing to think about

1191
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:51,700
knowing that it's based on a
real creature that we know exist

1192
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,600
to stay.
Could you imagine how many

1193
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,700
people that would feed?
Like I'll go eat calamari and

1194
01:16:57,700 --> 01:17:01,600
it'll be like hell tiny swimming
stuff in like a little like well

1195
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,000
they're not little but the
suckers and stuff that would

1196
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,100
feed a lot of dang people.
I mean maybe we should you know

1197
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,500
kind of pursue finding out more
about the giant squid by hunting

1198
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:14,200
them that may be why they're so
rare.

1199
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:18,100
Now, they may have just been.
Well let's get the rest of them,

1200
01:17:18,100 --> 01:17:20,500
you know, I mean, I'm almost
every restaurant, I go to

1201
01:17:20,500 --> 01:17:23,600
nowadays, seems to have calamari
is appetizer.

1202
01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:28,000
Well, I just mean over the
course of the last 1000 years.

1203
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,100
You know, like we had we could
have eaten them off.

1204
01:17:30,100 --> 01:17:33,000
Just like we did in the other,
we do anything awful.

1205
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,900
Oh we just fucking haunted him
for the hides.

1206
01:17:34,900 --> 01:17:39,900
But same thing in the wings just
getting in the wings.

1207
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,800
Almost samples were one of those
creatures that were Said to be a

1208
01:17:44,808 --> 01:17:46,600
mermaid, but they went extinct
in the.

1209
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,200
I think that was the 1920s
because we just hunted them.

1210
01:17:51,500 --> 01:17:55,900
It looked like manatees
basically sea cows, huh?

1211
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,400
Yeah.
Are they smaller manatees the

1212
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:03,700
skinny?
Long flowing hair.

1213
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:07,100
It was one of those creatures
that was mistaken for a mermaid

1214
01:18:10,500 --> 01:18:13,300
So maybe don't hunt them, okay?
Fine.

1215
01:18:18,300 --> 01:18:21,200
Can't hunt what you can't find.
Its right?

1216
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,200
95% of the ocean still left
over.

1217
01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:25,900
There's plenty of them.
Let's go back to hunting them.

1218
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,800
I'm sure of it.
Yeah, we'll find something else.

1219
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:36,000
It's fine.
Yeah, yeah, good.

1220
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:38,200
Good episode was well, thank
you.

1221
01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:44,600
I mean, this is something that
when I rejoined the podcast and,

1222
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:47,100
you know, you and Jeremy were
talking to me about, you know,

1223
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:52,400
writing our own episodes or
whatever and Thing, I pop the

1224
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:56,100
pop, the my mind about covering
was the Kraken, like I don't

1225
01:18:56,100 --> 01:18:59,200
know, that's just, it will
always stick with me.

1226
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:04,200
Just something that I would love
love to see something like that.

1227
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,600
You know I mean being on
deployment on an aircraft

1228
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:11,400
carrier, I've seen lots of crazy
things out the see you know been

1229
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:16,800
through crazy typhoons and
storms and whatnot you know

1230
01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:20,500
waves and swells big enough to
damage it even aircraft carrier.

1231
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:26,100
To seeing the ocean, literally
as smooth as glass.

1232
01:19:26,100 --> 01:19:31,000
Not a single Ripple, wrinkle
anything, like, literally just

1233
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,700
perfectly smooth for as far as
you can see.

1234
01:19:34,100 --> 01:19:36,300
Like, that's literally one of
the craziest things I've ever

1235
01:19:36,300 --> 01:19:41,700
seen in my life and I'll never
forget seeing that, you know,

1236
01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:44,100
and that's just that's just on
the surface.

1237
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:49,500
The thing, you know, we talked
about the oceans cover, 70% of

1238
01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:52,400
the planet, right?
But But I think another thing we

1239
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,200
don't really consider is that,
you know, the ocean isn't just

1240
01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:01,000
as flat thing, it's it has depth
to it and there's you know, this

1241
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:05,500
all this.
Unseen terrain route in sure,

1242
01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:10,200
we've mapped out you know a lot
of that undersea terrain whatnot

1243
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:16,200
but we don't really know what's
down there and that unknown

1244
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,900
portion of it will continue to
fascinate me until the day I

1245
01:20:19,907 --> 01:20:21,200
die.
I'm sure.

1246
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:26,200
I mean, you think about like I
think the biggest mountain range

1247
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,800
in the world is under under the
ocean somewhere?

1248
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,200
Yeah, there's right.
So think about like I'm mountain

1249
01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:34,500
range and think about all the
creatures that live in a

1250
01:20:34,508 --> 01:20:37,600
mountain range not just one
mountain like a whole range of

1251
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,000
mountains.
I mean, you got bears and lions

1252
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,100
and all kinds of stuff, right?
And there's caves that things

1253
01:20:43,100 --> 01:20:45,600
can live in snot.
Think about the biggest mountain

1254
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:49,400
range ever is underwater, and
like, what could be living

1255
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,400
there?
There's literally under water.

1256
01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:56,100
Rivers of Brine and the oceans,
you know, which is crazy.

1257
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,600
You know, there's these
creatures that literally have

1258
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:04,700
iron, like they're made part
partially of iron to be able to

1259
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:08,300
survive in these extreme
conditions, near thermal

1260
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,100
geothermal vents under, you
know, in the bottom of the

1261
01:21:11,100 --> 01:21:13,000
ocean.
It's just crazy.

1262
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:16,400
There's so much.
It's definitely way more charges

1263
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:20,800
like eels who can go between
freshwater and saltwater to

1264
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,000
like.
Mhm, that's baffling to me.

1265
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:27,200
Even if you could sonar the
whole bottom, which I think

1266
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:29,600
we've done a lot of but, you
know, you could sonar the whole

1267
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,300
bottom of the ocean and you be
like, yeah, there's a mountain

1268
01:21:32,300 --> 01:21:34,000
range there.
But unless, you know where the

1269
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,900
cave entrance is and that cave
entrance could lead into a Cave

1270
01:21:36,900 --> 01:21:39,200
System.
That's miles long just like on

1271
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:44,100
the surface but it's two miles
into the ocean as a Munoz.

1272
01:21:45,100 --> 01:21:48,100
Who knows what lives in there,
you know what I'm saying?

1273
01:21:48,500 --> 01:21:52,700
Yeah, I mean, Don't know if any
of you guys have heard of this

1274
01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:54,200
game, but it's called
subnautica.

1275
01:21:54,500 --> 01:21:58,300
Yeah, gives me.
It's a great saying sub mechina.

1276
01:21:58,300 --> 01:22:02,100
Folk, I was a sub-sub Mecca
phobia.

1277
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:06,300
I think it's called fear of
like, the deep ocean deep ocean.

1278
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:13,300
Yeah, like creeps me that the
hell out bleep if I get sick of

1279
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:18,500
watching those videos of like,
We're just going to use the

1280
01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:21,100
Titanic as an example.
I love watching videos of Tate

1281
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:23,600
at of the Titanic and you see,
like the animals in the

1282
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:28,600
background but like, just the
whole idea of all of that, just

1283
01:22:28,900 --> 01:22:31,600
looking Beyond what's right in
front of you.

1284
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,900
They're just into the depths of
the ocean.

1285
01:22:34,900 --> 01:22:39,200
That's terrifying.
Like anything could come at you

1286
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:42,100
but it like, it makes me so
uncomfortable but it's so

1287
01:22:42,100 --> 01:22:44,300
fascinating to watch.
I love it.

1288
01:22:44,700 --> 01:22:50,100
Oh yeah, it's weird.
But I love Yeah, I mean there's

1289
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:52,900
literally the stuff of
nightmares down there, I mean,

1290
01:22:52,900 --> 01:22:56,300
hell, yeah.
Anglerfish Guardians of The

1291
01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:59,500
Nightmare realm pure pure
nightmare fuel.

1292
01:23:02,700 --> 01:23:08,200
Yeah, but yeah, I mean, I'm,
there's there's way more that

1293
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,900
we're gonna be able to cover
about the ocean.

1294
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,200
Probably more than we'll ever be
able to cover on this podcast.

1295
01:23:14,300 --> 01:23:15,600
You know, while we're still
alive.

1296
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,800
I'm sure there's going to be new
discoveries and stuff in the

1297
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,800
coming years.
Things that are just wild and

1298
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:25,200
crazy, you know, that no one
could have ever imagined

1299
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,200
existing and I look forward to
that.

1300
01:23:28,300 --> 01:23:31,900
I look forward to hear about
these things.

1301
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,500
Next up, the abyss.
Yeah.

1302
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:41,100
Because I what is the next
episode for she can we just not

1303
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:44,000
tell the listeners anymore
because I just think what's

1304
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:47,100
changed so much and we could
say, what the next It is, but

1305
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:50,100
next thing, you know, it's going
to be pushed back, three months.

1306
01:23:51,100 --> 01:23:53,200
So it's just easier to True
anything.

1307
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,200
Fair enough.
Stay tuned to find out what we

1308
01:23:56,700 --> 01:24:00,000
have next.
This is Spencer's probably just

1309
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,800
better anyways.
So next Friday you'll find out

1310
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:07,000
what's going to be covered next
and it's going to be a surprise

1311
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,000
to all of us.
That's right.

1312
01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:13,400
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1313
01:24:13,400 --> 01:24:15,000
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1314
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:18,400
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1315
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:22,200
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1316
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01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:34,500
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1320
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1321
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,000
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We have all these people that
have the voicemails constantly.

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Hit us up at stuff, but we want
voicemails, so we can play your

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beautiful voice over the next.
Available episode.

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I even if you have a business,
if you have a business and you

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want to promote it, free
advertising this podcast rakes

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in about 300 listens to to 600
listens Audio Only.

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And then our video version gets
about 1K plus every single time.

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So if you have a small business
that you want to broadcast, you

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want free advertising, leave us
a voicemail say, hey, I'm Joe

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from whatever podcasts are.
I'm you know, Casey and I own X

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y&z business and you're
listening to infinite rabbit

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hole and we will put that on the
next available episode and will

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cycle it through.
So you'll hear it a few times

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but yeah please come hang out
with us, hit us up on our

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website.
There you can find all your

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infinite Rabbit Hole.
Merch cancer is wearing one of

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our shirts and so am I the its
probe in time and she's wearing

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Bigfoot's favorite podcast.
But thank you for joining us

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down this path of the if and a
rabbit hole and we will see you

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next time.
Bye.

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Bye.