The Loch Ness Monster Part 1

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So I just listened to about six
hours at a Skinwalker Ranch

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episodes, and I heard you guys
say such nice, things about me

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afterwards.
This is Danny, by the way that I

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believe in your message never
done this but I just wanted to

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let, you know how awesome your
show is.

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So Jeremy and Jake, and Wes and
Ken's.

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Are you guys absolutely totally
without a doubt?

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Rock.
Thanks for such great work and I

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plan on keep listening, as long
as you guys keep putting the

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cool stuff out that you keep
doing.

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And so thanks for everything and
I can't wait for the next

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episode.
Bye.

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It's a damp Misty morning but
it's the perfect time to go sit

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out on the water.
You gather your gear and head

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out to the boat, no better time
than now to enjoy a thermos of

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tea, The View and do some
fishing.

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Maybe even read a book time
flies.

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By, as you sit, there enjoying
the quiet.

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You're the only person out on
the water right now, which seems

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to bring you much more peace.
As you look out onto the water,

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you see something that seems
very strange.

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A moment ago, the water was
still.

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Now, there seems to be some
waves or ripples on the surface.

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Suddenly you see what looks like
to be some kind of monster.

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I mean, you are out on Loch,
Ness after all.

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Today, we're going deep into the
Waters of Loch Ness discussing

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the legend of the monster.
That is said to lurk beneath,

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welcome back to infinite rabbit
hole.

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Hey, welcome back T.
Well fishing, what are you a

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communist?
Well, I was trying to get in the

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feel of Scotland and Thing, you
know, they drink their tea over

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there.
We must drink whiskey.

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Yeah, that's true here.
First thing in the morning

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though, this this is a civilized
person and I'm sure you could

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find a couple of them that smoke
crack looking crack.

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Anyways, welcome back to
infinite Rabbit Hole.

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Everybody dropping a rock in a
line.

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Well, okay, welcome back to
infinite Rabbit Hole everybody.

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I'm your host today.
I am Ken's are let's just jump

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right into it and bring in the
other guys here, let's start

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with Jeff.
How you doing, Jeff?

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I'm doing fantastic everybody.
Thank you.

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Ken's are apologize for my
shitty background.

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I'm in the process of moving
things around.

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So this is what you get, I'm
ready.

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It is what it is, I guess next,
let's bring in Jeremy.

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How you doing?
I am doing wonderful.

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I do not have a fan behind me
and the fan above me, like

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normal people.
I'd also like to point out that

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Jeff will missed a great episode
last episode where we talk to

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rizwan simulation Theory.
Feel like he should have been

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there.
But R is may or may not be back.

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We'll see.
Yeah, other than that

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everything's golden.
Well, it's all right.

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We already did one simulation
episode and everybody already

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heard.
My opinions on it.

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So I don't know man.
This guy he had some pretty good

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stuff, I'll just bring him on my
show.

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No, you have to talk to him
here.

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What?
Okay, okay.

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No fighting you to settle down.
Okay, last but not least, Jacob.

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Sorry, man.
I have too many Jays to pick

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from.
It's already has the least

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facial hair.
You had to pick on.

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Yeah, but heady Kathy Jefferson
as he with that.

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Snazzy with that mustache.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I've actually got the show, has

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sent over here.
So the second that something

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starts sounding a little bit,
too, like, agreeable for me.

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I'm just going to slap it on.
Hey, what's going on now?

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I'm a happy to be here.
Just want to hear what you got

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to say about Loch.
Ness monster, my wife shot me a

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text earlier and said, good luck
talking about this, that made up

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and Fabius nonsense.
And I Hi, I almost divorced her.

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I got that close.
I'm just struggling words.

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Very like scientific.
And and thought out, you know.

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Yeah.
Which means that she probably

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believes that, which is your
wooden divorcer?

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No, no, I wouldn't.
No not for that.

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Yeah, almost though, almost.
I gotta close.

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There's the line of divorce.
And that's right right there.

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But not, not quite there.
Still like a toe that I have.

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She says, the bigfoots not.
That's it.

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That's that's perfect foot over
the line.

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There you go.
Separation.

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At least.
That's it.

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That's it.
And I'm taking, I'm taking half

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of her money if that there you
go.

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Very top G of you.
I'm I'm actually excited about

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Loch Ness because I Don't Know
Jack about Loch Ness actually.

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I know like one fun fact but
I'll save it in case you have it

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and but yeah I'm ready too.
To hear about it.

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Is it that it's in Scotland,
shut up, dude.

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Yes, lock is like Lake, but
Scottish so to give everybody a

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little bit of backstory here.
Kid said that she wanted to

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cover the Loch?
Ness monster.

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I said, alright, so big one.
Usually I'm incorrect.

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The guy threatens our.
Okay.

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Okay.
Just is no.

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Add context.
I have a friend in Scotland.

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Hi Trisha.
She couldn't make it today

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because she just started school
and she's all sorts of busy now.

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And for her I believe it's
around 1 or 2 a.m.

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So she couldn't make tonight.
But the original intent was to

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have Tricia come on and join us.
And kind of give us the lay of

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the land, because she doesn't
live very far from the walk.

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So that's why I wanted Loch Ness
at you man.

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In Scotland the interwebs Jacob.
She's an international woman of

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friendship.
She has three international

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friends right here right here.
Oh yeah I guess that um you bro

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most of my friends are
international.

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What make her?
Can we make Ken's are a custom

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shirt that says that
International woman of

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friendship?
He probably is so I said take it

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right but I want you to blow me
out of water because when you

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think of cryptozoology there's
there's the big four pretty much

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right Bigfoot Loch Ness chupa.
To be or chupacabra as others

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may like to call it and then
Mothman, right?

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So that those like, the big
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So, I'm expecting a lot here,
kid, do you have it?

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I hope so.
I don't know.

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You you mean nervous?
I have 20 pages though.

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I felt that I needed to produce
a Jeremy style presentation

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here.
So I came up with 20 Pages for

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you dang and I'm really hoping
that this this is good enough.

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46 font double Face like I do.
Yeah.

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Oh well let's get it started.
Because I am seeing if you've

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got 20 pages and just going off
history.

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Yeah, I'll be standing here for
a long time.

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So let's here's the deal,
though.

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I've split this in half for you.
Jeff.

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Oh shit.
I got you, man.

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I got you.
I split this in half so we're

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going to get to Loch Ness.
So you guys ready?

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Got anything else you guys want
to get out of your system?

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I'm ready.
I'm excited.

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Oh this Mountain Dew mystery
flavor quite good.

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Good to know.
Anyways, we'll get, we'll get

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back to that in a second, but I
just want to state that she's

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coming along very well, guys.
I like, I like what I'm seeing

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here already 20 Pages, two
episodes.

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Corrupted good job and then also
just to get on the Mountain Dew

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topic, has anybody seen this
Mountain Dew?

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What's the hot flavor on the
chips right now?

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The Flaming Hot Flaming Hot
Mountain dude.

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You know, Mountain Dew all.
Have you seen this?

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I've sent it.
Sounds horrible.

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Yes, disgusting.
Jeff.

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Is the is the mystery flavor?
Kraken, I think it's the white

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one.
It tastes like the White

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Mountain Dew.
I don't think you Yeah, that's

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if you spike.
Yeah, no, I did not.

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Alrighty.
Well that was fun.

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I say something really mean but
I'm not gonna do that.

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Take a kid.
Okay ready?

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Yes Maddie.
Okay.

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Now before we get too ahead of
ourselves, I wanted to talk a

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little bit about the lock
itself.

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Taking its name from the river.
Ness the freshwater lake is the

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second largest in Scotland,
extending approximately 37, km

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or 23 miles.
Long has a maximum depth of 744

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feet and is two point seven
kilometers or 1.7 miles wide.

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The lake is the largest body of
water that sits along the Great

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Glen, a geological fault, line
that goes straight through

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Scotland created by glaciers
during the last ice age, at the

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end of the last ice age, once
all the ice had melted, salt

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water filled the area, creating
lakes that eventually became

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fresh water with time.
The water is quite murky due to

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the high peak content from the
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Pair that with the usual fog and
rain and you have the perfect

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condition for a large like
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Noticed during the winter the
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The surface heats up and Rises
to the top of the lake allowing

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for Cold War.
The cold water to sink and the

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process to repeat itself, this
is known as a thermocline.

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This prevents the lake from
being able to freeze and the

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estimated heat given off by the
lake is equal to about 2 million

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tons of burning coal.
The lake also plays a major part

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in supplying electricity to the
National Grid and is along the

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travel route known as the
Caledonian Canal.

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The canal was constructed in the
early 19th century to make trade

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and tourism more accessible
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I came across some Scottish
folklore about the lock that I

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found, very interesting.
The Story Goes as such the area

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was nothing more than a valley
with a deep.

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Well, that was kept closed by a
Judge Stone.

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Local Housewives would come and
fill their pails with water.

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But if one became careless, and
forgot to put the stone back,

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the well would flood the valley.
This is exactly what happened

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and it led to the creation of
what is now known as Loch Ness.

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Some people even claimed, the
lake is deeper than the North

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Sea, While others say it's
bottomless.

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However, as previously mentioned
the lock is only about seven

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hundred and forty, four feet
deep.

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It has also been said that
because of its dad With the lock

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refuses to give up its dead.
Since the body of those who have

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drowned in the lake are rarely
found just a couple of short

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stories of Scottish folklore
they found and wanted to share.

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So what do you guys think of
that?

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I don't think that that's how
the lock was made for the record

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aliens.
Did it?

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Yeah, a lot of it is fake.
Lock this big.

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Okay.
I just thought it was a cool

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story.
No, I did Sir really down.

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But bodies float unless they're
being eaten by the Beast, the

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Beast, there you go.
You'll float too.

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It's actually really neat
though.

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That's a lot.
The it's a lot deeper than I

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thought like an pictured in my
mind.

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Not knowing shit about it, but
that's but I read a lot of

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different reports.
There was some that said, I

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think it was 2018, they found a
spot that was 754 feet deep.

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So another 10 feet, but nobody's
actually done.

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Any real sonar scans of the
bottom of the lake sense.

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So that nobody's been able to
confirm this for sure.

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So still, what is that m?
I don't know how much does that

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hundred.
So yeah, I tried to make it make

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sense for all of us, okay.
I know we all may know how feet

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work because those dumb
Americans.

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We don't know how to do that.
I thought about you guys and I

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included the miles.
Okay.

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I know I'm the only Canadian
here and I know Kalam I'm the

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only one km make sense to so I
got you guys International woman

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of friendship right there.
It's pronounce kilometres

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Kilometres click OK?
Yeah, yeah.

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How about that place?
All right, so a couple things I

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don't know if you're going to
get into it down the road, but I

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know Loch Ness has a very soft
sediment bottom.

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Correct.
Yes, I don't really go into any

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of that, but I do talk about so
it does.

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It does get very murky.
Yes, in that water.

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I'm in very I didn't know about
the heat.

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Actually, I was always under the
assumption that Loch Ness was

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cold, but this Caledonian Canal
does this enter or exit to the

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ocean?
As far as I understand, as I

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understand the canal goes
straight through because here's

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all the way across the Glenn.
And it was actually the part of

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the canal that is considered the
In Canal from my understanding

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that it was dug up specifically
to create a trade route and it

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completely by sex through
Scotland.

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Now, so sewing splits in two,
I've been through the Panama

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Canal.
Jake, you've been through up now

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can.
All right, I've been there be.

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Didn't you go through the other
one?

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I don't know, it's called
anyways.

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Hi?
Yes.

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Yeah, the other one.
Yeah, they're not the dangerous

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one, but Another bit, the other
not dangerous one.

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Yeah.
Right.

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So I went through the Panama
Canal.

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Pretty cool.
You can go straight through it

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right through the.
The very Northern tip of South

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America in Panama, believe it or
not.

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And basically go from the
Atlantic to the Pacific Corp

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Pacific to the Atlantic.
And I always thought that this

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would just be a Spewed sail
straight through.

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But actually what happens is you
stop in this little bath, right?

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And then they raise the water
then you move up to the next

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one.
They raise the water.

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Again you move up raise the
water again and now you're

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you're even with all the lakes
and rivers to get through a good

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majority of the land and then
when you get to the other side,

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same thing actually believe the
Panama Canal wasn't.

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It was only coming through From
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then from the Pacific to the
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On the Atlantic side, you have
to, you had to do that.

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Step up or step down.
I'm I don't know much about this

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one but I'm assuming they have
some of these somewhere.

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So that wouldn't necessarily be
a vital pathway for the Loch

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Ness monster to to the ocean.
Because I know this is one of

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the big theories about the Loch.
Ness Monster is that it's

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actually a creature that comes
from the ocean and lives part.

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Time in the lock.
Did I get I get too far ahead?

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Yes and no.
Okay, stop me.

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Tell me to shut up, kid.
Okay, shut up, Jeremy.

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I feel like you're getting to a
point about this canal though.

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So should I wait, should I know.
It's the canal comes up a couple

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more times but it's not really.
I honestly didn't even know.

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That's how I've never traveled
fun, fact, Ken's, ours never

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been farther than Blaine
Washington which is literally a

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20-minute drive over the border
of Canada.

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So You've been doing Erica very
briefly.

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Yes.
So I can come visit.

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Any of you were?
I didn't know you guys, then

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chill nonsense.
But like, I've never been

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anywhere.
I don't, I've never traveled.

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I don't know anything about
these canals, so I had no idea

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that's how this thing even
worked.

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So it's true.
They work like that.

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While you're talking in your, in
your next and I'll do some

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research slight research while
I'm listening in on this

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Caledonian canal and see if they
have any of those.

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But if they do and especially if
it's on both ends of a walk,

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then that pretty much shuts out
that as a, as a pathway, for the

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mobster.
Yea, they're going to get

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trapped there and we're going to
know it's there.

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Well, yeah, well, you hang onto
that.

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Will that comes up again.
We'll get there.

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Okay, well you go ahead and I'll
shut my mouth.

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I also would like to say real
quick.

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There's a couple words in here
that I'm probably going to be

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Butcher.
So if I'm saying the wrong just

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I'm sorry.
Okay.

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You have to say it, right?
You don't speak.

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Scottish Gaelic.
Know I don't it's wrong with

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you.
We have a friend, Scotland, I

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tried.
Don't you care?

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I tried.
Okay, I Googled a YouTube.

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I ask questions.
Yep.

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Yeah.
Anyways.

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Okay.
So you guys ready for the next

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part here?
Yes.

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Okay, let's get right to it,
shall we?

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I feel the best way for me to
explain the Loch Ness Monster is

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to dive right into the legend in
the Sightings The Legend of the

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Loch Ness came to life in 1933.
However, this isn't the first

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known sighting said to have
taken place in 565 ad.

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And Irish st.
Known as Saint Columba, came eye

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to eye with the creature of the
lock st.

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Columba was said to be a blessed
man.

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He could perform various
Miracles such as healing people,

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calming storms and even
Resurrection.

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He could also see into the
future and had many prolific

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Revelations of most of which
were of an unknown visited

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Ireland or some sort of big
event.

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Saint Columba was traveling
through what is now known as

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Scotland during the beginning of
the hive.

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Brno Scottish mission in the 6th
Century.

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This mission was a series of
expeditions made by gay Irish

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Gaelic missionaries with the
goal of spreading Celtic

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Christianity.
St.

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Columba was living in the land
of the pics, at the time, of his

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sighting, the pics lived in the
Northern and Eastern areas of

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Scotland, during the late
Antiquity and early middle ages.

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One day as Colombo was walking
along the banks of river Ness.

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He came across some men, trying
to bury a companion of theirs

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when asked what was going on.
The men told Columba that their

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friend died after being bitten
by a beast occupy in the water.

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After hearing this Columba had a
companion swim into the river in

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hopes to draw the creature out.
As soon as the man was deep

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enough in the water.
The creature came from below the

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surface with the Roar and chased
after him before.

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The monster can sink his teeth
into Columbus friend Columba,

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raised his hand, and Drew a
cross in the are all well

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yelling, Thou shalt go.
No further nor touch the man, go

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back with all speed, and just
like that, the creature turned

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around and disappeared faster
than it had.

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Approached, before we move on, I
want to point out that the story

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doesn't actually take place in
the Loch Ness, it takes place in

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the river Ness.
Now the lock is fed by the river

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Ness so that's not to Discount
the story but something I

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thought was worth a mention.
Another thing I want to quickly

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bring up our the pictish stones.
These are Monumental type Stone

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carvings found on the Eastern
side of the country and are the

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most solid piece of evidence of
the pics with many possible

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picked.
Some of the most interesting

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pieces are the pictish Beast and
the ancient serpent Stone.

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The pictish beasts shows a
creature that has a long snout

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and flippers instead of feet and
the ancient serpent Stone shows,

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what looks like an actual
serpent along with a couple

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other symbols both of these
Stones.

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Very well, could be evidence to
the existence of Nessie in the

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early centuries.
However, Scholars have also

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described the Beast to look more
like a swimming.

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An elephant and the serpent
Stone.

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Could be a representation of
many different animals that were

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in the water.
Question answer, do you talk

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about Crowley?
No, okay, I'm just going to spit

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on my don't fact, don't get into
Crowley here.

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Okay, so the one thing that I
know about Loch Ness and it's

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really not even about Loch Ness,
but Alex, I was around.

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I was on mute.
Do you really want to talk about

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this now or you want to say this
video?

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And well, I because what she
just said, one of the one of the

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bits in her little princess
just.

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All right.
Go ahead.

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You know, there's a lot, this
could be Could be a big Convent.

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Well, I'll keep my part short.
So if you guys wanted to be a

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big combo, that's on you guys,
but basically Aleister Crowley

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owned and lived on Loch, Ness at
one point.

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Right for anybody who doesn't
know, Aleister Crowley is the

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guy who started his own religion
thelema.

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And he's like this, you know,
people would call him a Satanist

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or whatever you want to call
him.

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He's in a cult, dude, right into
magic.

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Black magic, sex magic?
All these things.

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And one of the theories that I
know about Nessie is that

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Aleister Ali brought it into
this reality through this magic,

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but I've always said no
Aleister.

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Crowley just knew about Ley
lines and places on the Earth

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where you can do magic and its
in its Amplified, which I've

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talked about a hundred times,
and I think that that area is

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one of them.
So, going back to what year was

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this five?
Something ad with this, what

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Colombo character, right in this
whole story.

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And this guy literally
banishing, this Beast, right?

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I think that there is just some
portal in this area and maybe

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the Beast, kind of bleeds
through in the sport of kind of

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what we talked about with
Skinwalker Ranch.

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Kind of the same idea.
I was just gonna say kind of

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same ideas Skinwalker there.
So, actually, if you go over to

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the group chat and messenger,
I'm actually going to post a

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picture to kind of show you guys
what these Ley lines look like.

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And if you look at one of them,
the one, that's right over.

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Utah.
That's literally supposed to be

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right, where Skinwalker Ranch
has rightly.

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Just wanted to throw that away
about Loch Ness, right?

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So yeah, this is perfect
example.

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You know this this image as for
Loch Ness, here's another one, I

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don't know exactly where the
lock is and how accurate this

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particular one is.
But I look at that, Jeff.

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It's a globe.
Also, a cartoon weird, having a

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guy for, You believe the
invisible lines but not the

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round earth, dude, that's what
those that are listening

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watching head on over to the
infant Rabbit Hole Facebook

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group.
And we'll make sure to post

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these over there for you guys.
So you can kind of see what

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we're talking about.
But this last one here.

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You can see that the the blue
and the purple one kind of

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intersect right over the British
Isles.

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It looks like it's more over
England.

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I don't know exactly how
accurate.

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That is but Shas.
The Mountain is a huge Place

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Giza.
Obviously their core is Ayers,

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Rock, huge, huge, unknown shit
going on over there.

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Who makes up this nonsense about
Ley lines.

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Ley lines are II actually don't
necessarily agree with you

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because back a little 1000's of
years man.

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Honestly people have been
talking about and they didn't

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call them Ley lines.
Always, but the idea of Ley

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lines have gone back for
thousands of years and multiple

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cultures.
I mean, I don't think it's one

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person that made it up.
I do believe that there is

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something to it.
Honestly, it's kind of the same

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as think, about acupuncture for
human, right?

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There's something to that, they
made up.

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Yeah, I mean, a lot of people
think that right, or same with

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chiropractors, a lot of people
also made up that a lot of

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people write.
A lot of people think that.

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However, there is, there is a
lot of people who really think

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that those things have some
connection to the body and

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healing and all kinds of other
stuff and the early people

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believe you can Will crap into
existence.

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Yeah.
People are crazy, man, you're

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right.
Yeah, I mean, look, it could be

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complete bullshit, but I'm just
saying, my theory about this is,

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this is Scott to be on a Ley
line or used to be on a Ley

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line.
If continental drift is a thing,

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so there's some energies there.
So, the Aleister Crowley before,

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I started this whole thing with
infinite rebel.

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I didn't know too much about
them until we had CJ, joined the

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cast with CJ through
conversations.

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Everything started learning.
Of it more.

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As I recognized the name more,
in my research and everything.

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The guy definitely dove into Ley
lines, okay?

456
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:05,600
Definitely paid attention the
way Lawrence seeing that

457
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,700
Aleister.
Crowley is tied to the Loch,

458
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:13,300
Ness monster and or at least
owning a property on lockness.

459
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,700
Maybe this is something else
that I just don't know if I

460
00:27:19,708 --> 00:27:26,300
should bring it up, kid.
I'm gonna I'm gonna type

461
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:28,000
something in the chat real
quick.

462
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,900
You tell me if I can keep going
or shut up, I touch on it at the

463
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:34,900
very end.
So I'm going to go ahead and

464
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:38,100
shut up right there.
But when we, when we talk about

465
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,700
that again, I'll come back to
this whole Aleister Crowley

466
00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:46,000
thing.
Okay, so for the record, I know

467
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,500
of the guy but I have no idea
what he did or what he was up

468
00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:55,500
to, I just know the name.
So, No, I don't talk about him

469
00:27:55,500 --> 00:28:00,200
at all in this presentation.
Just he's basically a cult.

470
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,300
He's one of the topical guys.
In history.

471
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:03,900
Swing.
And a miss kid.

472
00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:06,600
Yeah.
All kinds of magic shit.

473
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,800
You know, that when I totally
went right over because again, I

474
00:28:09,808 --> 00:28:11,400
know nothing about the guys.
Well, that's okay.

475
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,300
A lot of people don't actually
know that.

476
00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:15,800
A lot of people I've honestly, I
brought that up to a lot of

477
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,900
people and different shows, and
a lot of people don't know that.

478
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:22,000
So, you know, and in another fun
fact, Jimmy Page guitar player

479
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,600
from Led Zeppelin and a buying
that house.

480
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,600
House then, what?
Yeah, no.

481
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,300
Well, yes, cool.
There you go, good stuff.

482
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:36,300
Can't anything else?
Nope.

483
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:43,800
Alrighty August 27th 1930, a
local Inverness newspaper called

484
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,000
the northern Chronicle, had
published a story about st.

485
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,800
Columba and his encounter, with
the Beast, just three years

486
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,400
later, the legend of Nessie
quickly became an international

487
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,500
sensation.
The first reported sighting of

488
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:01,000
the monster was made by a couple
that were traveling along the, a

489
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:06,000
82 in mid-april, the article of
the sighting published, just a

490
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,800
couple weeks later in early May
was written.

491
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,800
By part-time journalist and
local water bailiff.

492
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:15,600
Alex, Campbell, the article
claimed that the couple had seen

493
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,800
a creature rolling around in the
water describing it as having

494
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,000
quote, a body that resembled a
whale and quote and watched as

495
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,500
it quickly disappeared into the
foamy Waters.

496
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,400
As the creature disappeared,
they couldn't help.

497
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,700
But notice that it left a fairly
large wave behind it.

498
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:36,800
The couple even compared to the
wave of the creature to that

499
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,600
created by a passing.
Steamer shortly after this first

500
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,200
sighting, a picture was
published that showed what was

501
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,300
believed to be the same
creature.

502
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:49,800
The couple saw a man named Hugh
gray, was walking along the lock

503
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,600
with his dog and managed to snap
a picture.

504
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,800
However, his picture came over
to her some heavy fire.

505
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:59,500
It was explained away as just an
honor having some fun While

506
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:02,900
others thought they could see
the head of a dog gray was

507
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:06,200
quickly accused of using a
blurry picture of his Labrador

508
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,700
as a hoax, it wasn't until a
couple months later in July

509
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,700
that.
Another big citing had occurred

510
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:18,200
George Spicer, and his wife were
on the same road, the a 82, in

511
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,900
the early evening, they claimed
to have come across a creature.

512
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:25,600
That was trying to cross.
The wrote the entire encounter

513
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,700
was very As the creature was
headed straight for the water, I

514
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:32,600
would like to read a letter
Spicer sent into the Inverness,

515
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,500
Courier.
Dear sir, I have just returned

516
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:39,500
from a motoring holiday in
Scotland, and I'm writing to

517
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:44,600
inform you that on Saturday
afternoon 22nd July last whilst

518
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,200
travelling, along the east side
of Loch, Ness between Doris and

519
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,700
foyers hotel about halfway.
In fact, I saw the nearest

520
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:57,200
approach to a dragon or
prehistoric animal that I have

521
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,000
ever seen in my life.
It crossed my road about 50

522
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,100
yards, ahead and appeared to be
carrying a small lamp.

523
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,100
Amor animal of some kind.
It seemed to have a long neck,

524
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:11,700
which moved up and down in the
matter of manner of a Scenic

525
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:17,600
Railway and the body was fairly
big with a high back, but if

526
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,600
there were any feet they must
have been the web kind and as

527
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:26,100
for a tail I cannot say as it
moved so rapidly and when we got

528
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:30,800
to the spot it had probably
disappeared into the lock length

529
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,000
from 6 feet to 8 feet, and very
ugly.

530
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,500
I'm wondering if you can give me
any information about it and am

531
00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,400
enclosing a stamped addressed
enveloped anticipating your kind

532
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:47,000
reply, whatever it is.
It may be a land and water

533
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:51,900
animal and I think it should be
destroyed as I am not sure

534
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:56,200
whether had I-beam quite close
to it, I should have cared to

535
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,400
have tackled it it is difficult
to give a better description as

536
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,000
it moved.
So swiftly and the whole thing

537
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,100
was so sudden.
There is no doubt that it

538
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:08,400
exists.
Yours Etc.

539
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,800
G Spicer.
Other reports explained that the

540
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,800
creature was over 25 feet long
with Spicer using the 10 to

541
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,100
12-foot wide Road as a reference
point.

542
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,000
December of 33 Spicer.
Did an interview to explain

543
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,700
further what him and his wife
saw, he went on to describe that

544
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:31,200
he saw no tail or mouth but his
wife said that she saw what

545
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,900
could have been a deer at the
bulk end of the creature?

546
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,300
He tried to tell many people in
the scientific Community but no

547
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:42,300
one really believed him.
The Inverness Courier even added

548
00:32:42,300 --> 00:32:46,100
in a later article printed
saying it was most likely just a

549
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:49,700
large otter.
It's important to mention that

550
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:54,100
this area has recently gone.
Dirt undergone Construction, the

551
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,600
road was expanded.
And in order to do that, they

552
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,400
had to cleared trees and other
debris, which made for a much

553
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,400
better view of the lock.
With the new view, the reported

554
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,600
citing started to become more
frequent.

555
00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:09,200
And it was believed that this
happened because it wasn't such

556
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:13,900
an isolated area anymore.
However, some might argue that

557
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:17,500
this area was far from isolated
before the Road expansion, due

558
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:20,200
to the construction of the
Caledonian Canal.

559
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:23,400
During this time, there had also
been one of those.

560
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,100
Oh, so crazy.
Dare I say it.

561
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,000
Hoaxes.
That December the Daily Mail.

562
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,100
Had hired a man named Marmaduke
wetherell to hunt down and

563
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:38,300
filmed the alleged monster,
whether L was an actor,

564
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,100
screenwriter producer director
and big game hunt so he seemed

565
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:45,700
like he would be the perfect
candidate to capture the

566
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:50,800
monster, whether that be on film
or either the real deal, he

567
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,000
ended up finding some Footprints
which got people really excited.

568
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:58,400
Castings of the footprints were
sent to the lab and

569
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:01,600
unfortunately it came back as a
hippopotamus Print.

570
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,800
It is believed a prankster did
this using an umbrella stand

571
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:09,800
made to look like a hippo foot,
which was extremely popular at

572
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:16,400
the time and this absolutely
humiliated wetherell That's all

573
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,900
I got there.
Sounds like every dinosaur

574
00:34:18,900 --> 00:34:23,300
fossil that's ever been found.
So this is the problem with

575
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,600
people and Cryptids, right?
What year did you say?

576
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:36,500
This was in, this was 1933 this
all started so they weren't, you

577
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:40,600
know.
This area is first being

578
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,500
discovered and stuff and just
like, you know, what's out there

579
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:45,500
and everything?
You know, I'm sure this person

580
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:50,100
wasn't an educated about what
goes on around the world as far

581
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:56,300
as animals go.
But he sees this this beast and,

582
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:59,800
you know, only describes it as
ugly which, you know, maybe he

583
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:05,500
was ugly but then says that he,
it should be destroyed because,

584
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:09,300
you know, for no reason Has it
exists.

585
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,700
So it must be destroyed because
oh, had I been closer?

586
00:35:12,700 --> 00:35:14,300
It's like, okay, well, you
weren't right?

587
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:18,900
So it's like, maybe this is why
we can't find any dang Cryptids

588
00:35:18,900 --> 00:35:21,400
anymore, right?
We can't find any big feet is

589
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,000
because people throughout
history have thought in this

590
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,400
exact same way.
Oh my gosh.

591
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,500
It's a giant up were right,
walking ape or whatever.

592
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:33,400
They would describe it as we
have to kill it.

593
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,800
Because it exists.
Oh my gosh.

594
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,700
What if it got close to us and
our family?

595
00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:39,400
Malin our children and might eat
us.

596
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,500
We should kill all of them,
right?

597
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:45,600
Maybe this is why I let you know
this and we go into like the

598
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,900
whole Teddy Roosevelt thing,
making all the natural although

599
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:51,300
nature reserves and all that
stuff and everything.

600
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:55,700
But it's like maybe that was
done on purpose to preserve some

601
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:58,700
of these animals.
Maybe there was a bunch of Nazis

602
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:01,400
or something like that and
people are just like oh my gosh

603
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,100
look at it let's kill it for no
reason right let's kill all

604
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:08,200
these you know whatever X y&z
Opted.

605
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,100
I have a huge issue with that.
I think that some should be

606
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:15,900
taken for science, but only
under extreme circumstances, but

607
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,600
not just because they exist,
right?

608
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:21,000
I definitely agree with you but
you know, good luck, right.

609
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,200
Like those already other
Scholars more sanctions?

610
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:25,100
Yeah.
You know.

611
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:27,500
So but no it is unfortunate and
I agree, man.

612
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,600
I think that a lot of these
things were real or something

613
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,000
like these things were real and
people just out hunt like they

614
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,000
overhunted these things, for
whatever reason, you know, drove

615
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,700
them back into hiding.
So it sucks.

616
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:44,600
It's fucked up.
Jeremy didn't expect me to go so

617
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:50,100
hard on that.
No, I just I'm gonna be honest

618
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:54,800
with you, never was a big
believer in this.

619
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,200
I know a lot of people are
probably gonna be like, well,

620
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:05,900
fuck this gay, but I just, I
don't know.

621
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:13,400
I just like monsters are tough.
They're very, very tough, right?

622
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:19,800
When you get into geology and
the such it just doesn't really

623
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,400
make too much sense in.
A lot of people are like ology

624
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,200
with the hell.
You need to study rocks word,

625
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,500
know of lake monsters as well.
We'll see if kid gets into It.

626
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,600
And if not, I'll fill in the
blanks at the end.

627
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:34,800
I'm just going to leave it at
that.

628
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,500
Who knows?
All right, I don't know.

629
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:44,400
But yeah, so that's it didn't
really add anything there, so

630
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:50,000
very informative, thank you.
Even if he was making it up,

631
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,400
right, making up the account,
which is likely, right?

632
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,500
What sort of accountability was
there, even if he made it up the

633
00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:01,600
fact that he thought to put that
in his made up statement of what

634
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,900
he thought to himself.
Just shows the violent

635
00:38:04,900 --> 00:38:08,800
tendencies of human beings
towards anything that they don't

636
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:14,400
understand or they don't know
about you and I'm pointing this

637
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,600
more towards, you know, in the
animal world as far as like, you

638
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,800
know, well more specifically
Cryptids.

639
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:25,200
So what do you think about that?
As far as that aspect goes

640
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:29,600
because of me.
Yeah, no comment.

641
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,100
Don't man goatman's gone.
It's because of people killed.

642
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:39,900
Them off, Sheepsquatch, God one.
I don't think we would have

643
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:42,300
hunted something such as the
Loch, Ness.

644
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,100
All right, because a lot of
people think that it was a

645
00:38:46,107 --> 00:38:50,200
plasia sorely, appler Don or
whatever, the saturation any

646
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:55,300
player, Tanya the magical one.
Specifically the one on the way

647
00:38:55,300 --> 00:39:08,700
to Candy Mountain but If anybody
doesn't get that reference than

648
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,800
Charlie the Unicorn now just
leave him.

649
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,500
Leave him to Justice.
Yeah, you know there's like six

650
00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:18,800
episodes of that.
Now it along.

651
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:21,700
Even get me started.
Anyways you don't even get me

652
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:23,400
started.
Let's keep this let's keep

653
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,700
talking about the Loch Ness
monster.

654
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,600
Okay.
I just don't necessarily I have

655
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:34,000
trouble believing that there is
a liopleurodon or a Jesus or

656
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:38,200
still alive?
Possibly in the depth.

657
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:44,400
Deep deep parts of the ocean.
I would be curious is the one if

658
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,400
it had a way into Loch Ness.
Why would it get in to lock this

659
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,200
to?
You can't convince me that it's

660
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,800
still lives in Loch.
Ness.

661
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:55,800
I just don't think that the body
of water is large enough to

662
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,500
house something without being
seen pretty much all the damn

663
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:03,300
time.
As far as I know and I could be

664
00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:05,100
wrong.
But the thing didn't have

665
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:11,100
whatever, be liopleurodon or a
playlist, or they don't have

666
00:40:11,100 --> 00:40:12,600
gills.
So they got to come up to

667
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,900
breathe.
You be seen a hell of a lot

668
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,000
more.
I mean, when you're in the

669
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,500
middle of the ocean, you still
see whales?

670
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:22,400
Come up to breathe.
I don't know.

671
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,200
I've got a lot of arguments for
it.

672
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:28,400
I'm going to keep it.
Well, really the back end, it's

673
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,400
an aquatic reptile which I don't
know how Jeff feels.

674
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,000
I mean it wouldn't have been
technically classified as a

675
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,600
dinosaur.
It be a aquatic reptile which

676
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,000
even the Aquatic reptiles we
have today, they all breathe.

677
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,500
Are none of them have gills.
But right, that being said, it's

678
00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:48,500
not like they know for sure
because all they can find his

679
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:50,000
bones.
So whether they had gills in

680
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,300
their pink with purple spots,
like they have no clue.

681
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:57,600
So even if they were mammals
like today's whales, right?

682
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,500
They still had room up and
breathe.

683
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,900
I Just I just don't see it
unless and I don't know too much

684
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:08,800
about the geography around of
the area, but what if it is a

685
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,200
land creature, that goes into
the water, but then you would

686
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,000
think that there'd be a lot more
sightings on land, right?

687
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:22,700
So unless there's some very
detailed cave systems in the

688
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:26,600
area, which I don't think there
is because I'm pretty sure that

689
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,900
every single team that's ever
stepped foot on Loch, Ness to do

690
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:31,100
a deep dive.
Dive in there.

691
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:36,600
Hasn't found Caverns or caves or
anything that could be wrong

692
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,800
kid.
We'll see what.

693
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,400
We'll see where you go.
I don't know.

694
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:46,600
I'm here for the ride, but I
already came into this, you

695
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,700
know, horror the way in and you
kicked it right in the face.

696
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,500
Thanks for all your research
Ken's are James.

697
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:58,700
Smith is mine.
The thing with land sightings

698
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:05,300
is, I didn't actually mention
that in here but there's a lot

699
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:10,100
more land, sightings that take
place, then are credited for.

700
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:12,500
So we don't care about any of
them.

701
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:15,000
We only ever tend to hear about
the ones that take place in the

702
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,600
water because that's where
everybody's so focused.

703
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,100
Because why the heck, wouldn't
there be a giant creature

704
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:24,800
swimming are like, right.
Like, I get the thought process,

705
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,400
but I Agree.
Why why aren't we looking more

706
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,800
and land as well?
Well, I I think that if there

707
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:41,300
was a land side to this whole
lore or the legend of the

708
00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:45,800
Krypton known as the Loch Ness
monster, you would have a

709
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,600
creature better known for being
on my end.

710
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,600
And it would be a surprise to
find it in the water.

711
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,100
Not something that's based in
the water.

712
00:42:55,100 --> 00:43:00,000
And surprised find it on my now,
I have seen stories, heard

713
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:06,200
stories, watch documentaries.
Sure, the micheli and been met,

714
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,300
Zoe.
Yeah, well that's different.

715
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:15,200
That's supposed to be a sauropod
certified to know, because on

716
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,700
land and it goes in the water
sometimes.

717
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,800
Yeah.
But where the hell you going to

718
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,600
hide a syrup odd?
Middle of Scotland dude.

719
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,700
Come on Noni.
It's got trees growing out of

720
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:28,100
Tibet active camouflage bro.
It's not a Pokémon Predator

721
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:34,400
monster and visibility like
Skinwalker Ranch like yes my

722
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,900
train of thought.
Yes, done.

723
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:43,000
I have I have one particular
theory about how the Loch Ness

724
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:50,300
monster could exist.
Everybody bear with us while we

725
00:43:50,308 --> 00:43:57,100
take this quick break.
But I'm going to save that for

726
00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,600
the it, and that has to do with
what I typed in the chat.

727
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:05,100
Okay.
Okay.

728
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,700
Anything else guys.
Ready for the next part?

729
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,500
I'm excited for this part,
ready?

730
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:16,500
I'm ready.
Okay, 1933 was a big year for

731
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:19,200
the introduction of the legend
to the world.

732
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:23,900
But 1934 was an even bigger year
during this year.

733
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:28,200
The first attempt to find the
creature was made the sir Edward

734
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,900
Mountain Expedition started.
In mid-july of 1934, ran for a

735
00:44:32,908 --> 00:44:36,200
total of five weeks, and was
funded, by Edward Mountain

736
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,500
himself, who was a well-known
insurance broker.

737
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:44,500
Between the hours of 9 a.m. and
6 p.m. 20 men would be

738
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:48,000
positioned around the lock with
binoculars and cameras by the

739
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,800
end of it.
They had 21 photos and none of

740
00:44:50,808 --> 00:44:54,900
them were conclusive but what
exactly led to this expedition

741
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:57,900
in the first place?
Surely there had to have been

742
00:44:57,900 --> 00:44:59,700
something to prompt this
endeavor.

743
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:03,600
Well earlier that year at
approximately 1:00 a.m. on

744
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,200
January 5th.
Arthur Grant claimed to have

745
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,000
almost hit the creature while he
was out cruising on his

746
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:15,100
Motorcycle, Grant a Veterinary
student, had created a sketch of

747
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:17,000
what he believed he saw that
night.

748
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,100
Drying out what looked like to
be an otter crossed with a

749
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:24,300
plescia sore, after being
reviewed by zoologist, Maurice

750
00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:26,600
Burton.
It was believed to be nothing

751
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,200
more than an otter.
And due to the time of the

752
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,300
encounter being darkened, all
perhaps grants imagination, got

753
00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:38,600
away from him plus Leah sores.
After all, were extinct marine

754
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,100
reptiles from the mess.
Azoic, era Grant wouldn't be in

755
00:45:43,100 --> 00:45:47,000
the spotlight for much longer
only a few short months later.

756
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:50,500
All the attention went to a
picture published by The Daily

757
00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:54,400
Mail.
The surgeons photograph is

758
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,600
probably one of the most well
recognized pictures of the Loch,

759
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,800
Ness monster.
The picture was titled this way,

760
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,500
because at the time surgeon
Robert Wilson did not want to

761
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:06,800
have anything to do with this
phenomenon.

762
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,800
So being that he is a surgeon
and it is his photo.

763
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,100
The surgeons photo seemed
appropriate.

764
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,200
The picture in question has,
what looks like to be a small

765
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,400
head and a long neck above the
surface of the lock Wilson, had

766
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,800
a total of four pictures.
However, ever the other three

767
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,800
pictures were considered to be
too blurry and didn't gain

768
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,700
nearly as much publicity.
Still to this day.

769
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:31,400
When you hear Loch Ness monster,
you probably think of the

770
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,300
surgeons photo.
This was concerned.

771
00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:37,800
This picture was considered to
be the most solid piece of

772
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,200
photographic evidence of the
now, well-known lake monster

773
00:46:41,700 --> 00:46:45,900
that is up until 1994 but let's
not get too far ahead of

774
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:49,000
ourselves.
Something to keep in mind about

775
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,700
the surgeons photo is that it is
usually cropped to make the

776
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:55,600
creature and the waves around it
look much bigger than what it

777
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,000
really is.
This was discovered after

778
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,600
someone did some analysis of the
wave patterns and the patterns

779
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,100
were consistent with that of
small waves, not larger.

780
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:08,500
Ones, this made people question
the size of the creature, and if

781
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:12,500
the picture was even real for
years, people had their doubts

782
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:15,600
about the photo.
But others took it as solid

783
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,000
proof, that Nessie exist.
And Swimming undetected in the

784
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:25,800
lock either way. 60 years later.
In 1994, Christian Spurling, the

785
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,600
stepson of Marmaduke wetherell
came forward and claimed that

786
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,600
the surgeons photo was faked.
Sperling told the world that his

787
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,100
stepfather had recruited him to
help, create the monsters neck

788
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:42,500
and head and then mount it to a
toy submarine.

789
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,100
The picture that became so
well-known as nothing more than

790
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:51,500
just that a toy submarine with
some wood and Clay attached to

791
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:53,600
create the appearance of a
monster.

792
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,000
All those involved in the hoax
included Marmaduke wetherell.

793
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,700
Of course, Christian Spurling.
Who made scale models for a

794
00:48:01,700 --> 00:48:05,700
living Ian wetherell who bought
the wood and the claim

795
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:09,700
materials, and a man named
Maurice Chambers, who was an

796
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:14,000
insurance agent.
Once the model monster had been

797
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:18,200
crafted Ian and his father
Marmaduke, went out to take some

798
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,400
pictures of the model in the
lock, There's even a rumor that

799
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,900
the model is still in the lock
to this day.

800
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,800
While taking the pictures, they
heard the water.

801
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,300
Bailiff Alex, Campbell coming.
So Marmaduke.

802
00:48:31,300 --> 00:48:34,200
Quickly, buried the model in the
sand so that they wouldn't get

803
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,500
caught eventually.
The pictures were developed and

804
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:41,600
given to Maurice Chambers who
then gave them to surgeon Robert

805
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,700
Wilson, who then sold them to
the Daily Mail, all of this,

806
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:49,600
just so Marmaduke.
Could get back at the Daily Mail

807
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:53,600
for firing.
Him over hippopotamus tracks.

808
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:58,800
So good job.
That's all I gotta say.

809
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:02,900
The surgeons.
Photograph is complete nonsense.

810
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,200
If you look at it, the ripples
in the water are far too small.

811
00:49:09,700 --> 00:49:11,900
This looks like a very zoomed in
picture.

812
00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:21,200
The creature in question looks
to be maybe 6 to 10 inches.

813
00:49:22,100 --> 00:49:25,200
It's the neighbor one.
I don't even think.

814
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:30,400
That's the, I will ya because
you do this.

815
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,600
This is something just flowing
out in the water.

816
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:37,100
It literally looks like they
took like a stuffed giraffe cut

817
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:38,900
off those little things on the
top.

818
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:44,000
Stapled it to a horse like
stapled it to a plank of wood

819
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,800
and threw it out in the water.
That's what this looks like.

820
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,400
That's what it's always look
like.

821
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:56,400
It's one of those pieces of
cryptozoological, lower and

822
00:49:56,400 --> 00:50:02,300
photography that a lot of people
really tie themselves to, but it

823
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:09,700
does not take a lot too.
Disqualify it it's just not a

824
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:15,200
very good picture.
Yeah, so when I was growing up,

825
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:20,600
I remember seeing that picture
and I Took it at like I took

826
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:24,300
that for stock, I was convinced
Nessie was real.

827
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:28,500
And then I grew up and I
realized that that can't be the

828
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,900
case.
I heard this was a hoax and all

829
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:35,200
this other stuff and I just kind
of heartbroken and then I got

830
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:38,800
older and now I don't like like
you were saying I don't really

831
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,100
believe in like monster is.
Now I have a really hard time

832
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:46,300
with them but I didn't know that
this was a cropped photo before

833
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:49,500
I started doing my research.
So now that I've seen the

834
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:55,800
cropped photo next to the
original photo, it's it the Is

835
00:50:56,300 --> 00:50:58,400
insane.
I think this is a problem with a

836
00:50:58,408 --> 00:51:01,500
lot of Cryptids is, you know,
just the publicity thing.

837
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:03,500
You know, of course, you're
going to have hoaxes and not

838
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:05,000
even Crypt at me with anything
really, right?

839
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,500
You're going to have fakes and
copycats and all these things,

840
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:11,400
right?
And it muddies all of the shit

841
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,700
so much that it just makes
people instantly either turn off

842
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:18,100
to it.
Or, you know, you'll get maybe

843
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:21,800
you're a researcher and you do a
whole solid year of research on

844
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,700
this topic and then you just
present like that.

845
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:28,000
One thing, that's Just totally
fucking wrong and discredited,

846
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,000
you know what I mean?
So yeah, yeah, it's problem

847
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,600
with, with any put all this
stuff.

848
00:51:33,100 --> 00:51:37,400
So in the chat, through the
uncropped, picture of the

849
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,800
surgeons photo.
Feel free to take a look.

850
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:46,100
Yeah, I little blimp in
comparison, just so The

851
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,700
Travelers know just because
gosh, that's like a duck.

852
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,500
It looks like a little duck or a
goose.

853
00:51:54,800 --> 00:52:00,100
Just Because the picture is
blurry and pixelated does not

854
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:03,500
mean that US host here on the
infinite Rabbit Hole, believe

855
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:07,300
it.
But but the rule is that it has

856
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:10,600
to be pixelated or blurry to you
be considered okay?

857
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,500
Yeah, I mean if it's if it's
Crystal Clear, it's fake

858
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:18,300
obviously, it's not a Bigfoot.
Yeah, ding.

859
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:21,800
I'm trying so hard.
Not to go on a rant about space

860
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,800
pictures right now.
You and your space that's

861
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,900
different.
Is it going on that?

862
00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:33,000
I can't guarantee you every
picture of every Cryptid ever is

863
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,900
just like you know you can't
determine what this is.

864
00:52:36,900 --> 00:52:39,600
However here's like artist
rendition.

865
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:45,700
Other side of the fucking
Universe of Christianity budget

866
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:47,300
stuff.
You'd we've already established

867
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:49,500
that they have way more money
than the average person.

868
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:51,700
Of course, they have these her
followers.

869
00:52:51,700 --> 00:52:53,800
That's all I wanted to say.
I had to get that off my chest.

870
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,100
I'm sorry.
So the next Neighbor wants to

871
00:52:56,100 --> 00:53:00,300
come fight you on, on the post,
on our on the show because he

872
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:03,500
said that, he said that we love
you, too.

873
00:53:03,500 --> 00:53:06,500
We love you, too.
The whole pixelated picture

874
00:53:06,500 --> 00:53:09,600
thing or like the the
digitalized picture.

875
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:11,100
He's like, that's what he's
like.

876
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:14,500
You got a phone or a camera.
He's like, unless it's using

877
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:17,700
Straight film every single
picture, you take on your phone,

878
00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:21,000
it's just ones and zeroes.
It's just capturing the image

879
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,200
and it's generating the image on
your phone.

880
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,100
There is no film whatsoever. /.
He's like so, literally, like

881
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,500
you could say that anything you
take a picture with your camera

882
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:31,000
is fake, too.
Yeah, but he's just not

883
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,200
understand, he's not
understanding the process.

884
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,200
He just needs to be educated on
the process and that's what I

885
00:53:35,207 --> 00:53:37,600
call.
I'm gonna hang is, if it comes

886
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,300
out Crystal Clear, it's pretty
debatable.

887
00:53:41,300 --> 00:53:46,400
But it's probably fake.
But Sam, you know, they've

888
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,400
actually it's real except me
because I didn't mean to derail

889
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,600
this to a space conversation.
But yes, he did.

890
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,300
Who are you getting?
You know, I had to throw it in

891
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:56,000
its like Jeremy was Right,
right?

892
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,100
He has to say Bigfoot like I
have to say something outrageous

893
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:03,900
about space or gravity or you
don't have to do.

894
00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:07,600
I have to okay no I have to they
do I will die.

895
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,900
If I don't would it be a true
infinite Rabbit Hole episode if

896
00:54:12,900 --> 00:54:16,400
Jeff Jeff?
Jeff didn't say something.

897
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,700
Absolutely atrocious atrocious.
Wow I cannot speak today.

898
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:25,200
This is a terrible day for this
is not a good day for this but

899
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:29,700
all tongue-tied as long as he
doesn't get us kicked off the

900
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:31,100
network.
I'm cool with whatever he has to

901
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:32,300
say.
We're good.

902
00:54:32,300 --> 00:54:35,500
That's no.
No, I do want to say and I say,

903
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:37,800
I wanted to say this at the
beginning of the episode anybody

904
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:42,600
listening or watching this and
our, this made, this may not go

905
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,400
over too.
Well, with the network, we don't

906
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,600
come up with the titles for the
network.

907
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,600
By the way, just want to say
that.

908
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,000
That's it.
Okay, the titles for the audio.

909
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,900
Only episodes are different.
That's on them.

910
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:55,900
We don't do that.
Don't hate us.

911
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,100
We love you.
That's it.

912
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:00,300
We begin hate.
Yes, there are lights.

913
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,500
Your titles are dumb and you're
dumb to specifically for the

914
00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:09,800
Skinwalker Ranch part two, you
know, YouTube's a YouTube's the

915
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:15,000
wild west of the culture.
So they said Skinwalker Ranch

916
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,800
Secrets, unveiled or revealed
and they're Like where was this?

917
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:25,900
Just literally just all wanted a
great comments.

918
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:29,200
Right, never read the comments.
General, I do all time.

919
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:34,800
He goes just curious what was
revealed and if it if it was a

920
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:41,000
time stamp because I must have
missed it, we don't come up with

921
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,800
the titles.
That's all I want to say.

922
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:47,800
We don't do that next one, wait
for the next episode, but we'll

923
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,200
do that.
All right.

924
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,200
That's all I had to say.
Nothing.

925
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,700
Absolutely nothing, Loch Ness,
monster related.

926
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:56,400
Informative.
Thank you.

927
00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:00,600
Do we have anything else?
Loch Ness related that we would

928
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,500
like to say?
Nope, ready, ready?

929
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,800
Ready, okay.
During 1934.

930
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,100
There was a book that was
published written by Rupert.

931
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:15,900
Goold Commander Rupert goold was
a member of the royal Navy

932
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:20,800
retiring in 1919 and becoming an
author writing several books.

933
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:25,600
Most of which focused on the
strange and paranormal in 1930,

934
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:29,400
his book, the Case for Sea
serpents was published.

935
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,700
So of course the Loch Ness
monster was something of

936
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:35,000
interest to him.
He went on to interview 42

937
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:39,000
different people all claiming to
have their own sightings even

938
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,300
receiving a letter from a man in
regards to a sighting that took

939
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:50,000
place in 1871 or 1872 D,
Mackenzie had sent Gould letter

940
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,300
outlining.
His encounter claiming he saw an

941
00:56:52,300 --> 00:56:55,400
object that resembled a log or
upturned boat.

942
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,800
Whatever the object was, it was
moving slowly at first, then

943
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:04,000
disappeared at a much faster
speed, because this sighting

944
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,600
originally took place in the
1870s.

945
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:08,800
Mackenzie didn't think much of
it at the time.

946
00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:13,100
So in sightings became more
popular in the 1930s, Mackenzie

947
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,100
thought it would be best to
share his story.

948
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:20,500
Hence why the encounter took
place in 1871 or 72.

949
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,000
Mackenzie wasn't quite sure
himself, which year that it took

950
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000
place.
Gould book, the Loch Ness

951
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,700
monster and others was then
published in 1934.

952
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:36,100
The next event, I want to talk
about took place in 1960 and

953
00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:38,500
became known as the Dinsdale
film.

954
00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:43,900
Aeronautical engineer Tim
Dimmesdale was on a small

955
00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:48,500
Expedition out on the lock and
after mounting his camera he saw

956
00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:50,400
something moving out on the
water.

957
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:55,800
He managed to film four minutes
of what seemed to be a large

958
00:57:55,800 --> 00:58:01,000
animal with a hump leaving, a
boat sized, wake behind it, as

959
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,900
it zigzag through the water, but
he was running out of film and

960
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:09,900
wanted a better shot.
Unfortunately, despite coming

961
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:13,000
back year after year, he never
got that footage of Nessie that

962
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,400
he was after.
However, his first video is

963
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,300
recognized as a genuine film of
the Loch, Ness Monster.

964
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:24,800
The Royal Air Force
Investigation Unit joint are

965
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:30,500
reckon since Intelligence Center
or ja Ric has compared the

966
00:58:30,508 --> 00:58:34,600
Nessie footage to the footage of
a boat and found that whatever

967
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,200
was filmed that day was not a
boat or submarine.

968
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:42,600
It was a genuine video of an
unknown animal in the water

969
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,100
later.
In 1962 the Loch Ness phenomena

970
00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:53,900
investigation Bureau or Ln P IB.
Be later, shortened to lni be

971
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,500
was created.
This was an organization that

972
00:58:57,500 --> 00:59:00,500
would gather volunteers to watch
over the walk from various

973
00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:04,300
points and search of Nessie as
the organization grew.

974
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,600
The expedition's went longer
observation decks were made to

975
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:10,500
help aid the search and
eventually there were

976
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:14,800
accommodations made for those
International members Dinsdale

977
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,800
himself even led the
expedition's the summer of 1970,

978
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,700
the organization officially We
stopped all operations in 1972.

979
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:27,800
After a decade of searching, Tim
was devoted to the search of the

980
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,400
monster writing several books,
including Loch Ness monster in

981
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:36,400
1961 and the story of the Loch,
Ness monster in 1973.

982
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:40,700
Tim was labeled as an honorary
member of the international

983
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:46,200
Society of cryptozoology, just
months before his death in 1987.

984
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:52,500
The lni be wasn't the only group
to be conducting searches of the

985
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:57,800
lock during this time, starting
in 1967, and finishing and 68.

986
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,600
There were some sonar scans done
at the Lock working closely with

987
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,600
lni.
Be the chair of electronic and

988
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,100
electrical engineering at the
University of Birmingham Dee

989
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:13,500
Gordon, Tucker offered his
services and sonar equipment.

990
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,800
Tucker took this as an
opportunity to test out a so

991
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:21,900
owner transducer prototype,
which had a range of 2,600 feet.

992
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:24,600
It was positioned facing the
office of shore.

993
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,700
So that no moving object would
go past undetected.

994
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:30,900
During the next two weeks,
multiple objects were

995
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:33,900
identified, but Nessie was not
one of them.

996
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:39,600
The big expedition of 1970 was
conducted by Roy.

997
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:44,900
Mackel a biologist who taught at
the University of Chicago Maco

998
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:48,200
had developed a hydrophone
assembly and anchored it around

999
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:52,900
700 feet in the urquhart bay.
There was an audiotape secured

1000
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:56,600
inside of 44 gallon bucket and
when these tapes were played

1001
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:01,300
back you could hear a series of
bird-like chirps a month or so

1002
01:01:01,300 --> 01:01:04,500
later a series of knocks and
clicks were also recorded

1003
01:01:04,900 --> 01:01:08,800
Goodbye, a turbulent.
Swishing sound Suggesting that

1004
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,200
the creature was using
echolocation and was closed by.

1005
01:01:12,900 --> 01:01:16,200
These audio tracks were played
back and attempt to interact

1006
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,200
with whatever creature made them
in the first place.

1007
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:22,100
But unfortunately, there was no
success with this.

1008
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,500
This wouldn't be the last sonar
scan.

1009
01:01:25,900 --> 01:01:28,000
There have been several over the
years.

1010
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,700
With some very interesting, song
are images that would be shared

1011
01:01:30,700 --> 01:01:37,400
in 1972 and 75, but this is
where part 1 of Loch, Ness

1012
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,600
monster ends to hear more about
these sonar images along with

1013
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,400
more sightings hoaxes.
And of course, all our final

1014
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,300
thoughts, you'll have to join us
next week.

1015
01:01:49,900 --> 01:01:54,000
Dang, Savage, cliffhanger.
You're a mean.

1016
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:59,500
I know I did that on purpose.
Good job background for more.

1017
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,900
So the Dinsdale film is
interesting.

1018
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,700
It almost anybody's ever seen
it.

1019
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:09,000
You went on the hunt for it.
Yeah.

1020
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:13,400
Is it lack of the most popular
one that you would see that they

1021
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,100
would play on like the History
Channel and shit?

1022
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:19,700
Actually, not really there,
there's not a lot of videos of

1023
01:02:19,707 --> 01:02:21,600
this thing just started all I've
ever.

1024
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,900
Honestly, seeing is just like
that.

1025
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:24,900
Teachers in the little clips
that they've shown.

1026
01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:27,900
Like I said on the History
Channel or mystery quest or

1027
01:02:27,900 --> 01:02:31,600
something the dimmsdale film.
If I'm talking about the, the

1028
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,800
right one kid is a black and
white one where it kind of looks

1029
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,600
like.
It's an infrared where, you

1030
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:45,500
know, white is hot, and black is
dark, and it's showing a believe

1031
01:02:45,500 --> 01:02:48,400
it's a black.in, the water.
Yep.

1032
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:52,600
And you can kind of see what
looks like.

1033
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:57,400
It's Kind of looks like a
serpent teen tail behind it at

1034
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:03,500
parts and then it cuts, let's
leave it cuts right?

1035
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:09,500
And then you kind of see the
tail kind of loop out with it

1036
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:13,600
and follow it.
Now to me that looks more like a

1037
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,400
fishing troll troll, right?
The fishing net.

1038
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,700
Yeah, it does.
That's just me.

1039
01:03:20,900 --> 01:03:24,400
So this was definitely taken I'm
a good distance away.

1040
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:31,200
It does seem to move like a
small boat not like a big

1041
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,500
charter boat or anything like
that but just some maybe

1042
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:36,400
someones like little bo and
they're just throwing it.

1043
01:03:36,700 --> 01:03:41,300
One of those long trolling
that's out there and that's just

1044
01:03:41,300 --> 01:03:44,400
what it looks like to me.
I've seen the video a couple

1045
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,900
times of dissected it on other
projects are designed I have to

1046
01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:52,400
go hunting for it.
Yeah it's not a very common

1047
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,100
thing and it's Not something
that they really show on

1048
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:59,700
documentaries and stuff.
I think it's because the, the

1049
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:04,500
everyone kind of thinks it's
just a little boat with a

1050
01:04:04,508 --> 01:04:06,800
fishing net.
That's what it looks like to me.

1051
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,000
I can see where people a look at
it and like that could be the

1052
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,500
Loch Ness and I could see where
the person are.

1053
01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:16,200
Not the hotness good, the the
but Nessie, right?

1054
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:19,900
But and I can see the, the
person who took the video who

1055
01:04:19,900 --> 01:04:23,700
got excited about it, I believe
that this was not That was set

1056
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:25,900
up.
I don't think that this was

1057
01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:30,000
something that they specifically
sent something out like in the

1058
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,300
surgeons photo.
I think this is somebody that

1059
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:36,500
saw something the corded it.
Do what they're supposed to do

1060
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:44,600
and let the world digest it.
So was a he was kind of this

1061
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:46,900
weird point in his life where he
was just kind of exploring

1062
01:04:46,900 --> 01:04:51,300
around and trying to learn about
the lock for his career purposes

1063
01:04:51,300 --> 01:04:54,100
and what not?
So he was on his own little

1064
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:59,200
miniature expedition to try and
find Loch Ness monster for

1065
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:05,300
whatever his scientific purpose
was right and he added ended up

1066
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:11,500
getting this for minute film of
the monster, the monster out on

1067
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:15,600
the lock.
I had a hard time finding this

1068
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:21,200
video and for whatever reason,
my dumbass didn't save it but I

1069
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:26,200
did send like a 40 second clip
of what is believed to be a part

1070
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:31,700
of this video to the chapter and
Castor here.

1071
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:36,800
Yeah.
Or they just, I was going to say

1072
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,800
something, I was gonna blow.
Everybody's mind was gonna be

1073
01:05:38,808 --> 01:05:41,500
great.
No, guess I'm not going to talk

1074
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:47,500
about.
Well, I in some way, give

1075
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:53,500
credibility to people that can
film stuff moving through the

1076
01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:58,600
water, it looks relatively big,
but it's also takes away from it

1077
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:02,200
because of how easily it could
be faked.

1078
01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:06,100
Like, like you got to pick, you
got to think about it.

1079
01:06:06,100 --> 01:06:12,600
Like, I went fishing for trout
up in Hulme, like a few months

1080
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,300
ago now.
But I had at one point, I had

1081
01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:18,600
like, 100 yards of line out
behind me.

1082
01:06:18,700 --> 01:06:21,700
And I'm just pulling this, you
know, spoon through the water

1083
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:24,900
and stuff, just trying to get
away from the wake of the boat.

1084
01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:28,700
So it's just moving by itself.
Not directly behind us.

1085
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:32,300
And why couldn't someone do that
with a steel cable.

1086
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,400
And something that's long and
floppy that can just you know,

1087
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,900
Serpentine through the water or,
you know, especially if it's old

1088
01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:42,400
and it's black and white, you
know.

1089
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,500
And it's just like It's so easy.
Conceal, you know all that stuff

1090
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:49,800
underneath the water.
So it's like in some ways I'm

1091
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,600
just like yeah I mean like
especially if it's like a

1092
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,100
Faraway like from the shore type
shot and you can see the

1093
01:06:56,100 --> 01:06:58,500
movement and stuff and it's like
you know stuff like that is

1094
01:06:58,500 --> 01:07:01,300
interesting but a lot of it has
been debunked as like.

1095
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:04,300
Yeah.
That's a whatever you call that

1096
01:07:04,300 --> 01:07:06,300
pot of otters or something like
that.

1097
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:09,800
Whatever you call a group of
them or that's a school of fish.

1098
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:14,500
Or that's, you know, X Y and Z
everything except for a river

1099
01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:20,400
monster, right?
And I don't know.

1100
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:27,100
I, it's like, I want to to give
credibility there, but also, I'm

1101
01:07:27,100 --> 01:07:30,200
not a fool into saying that
every single time I see

1102
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,200
something like that.
Mike.

1103
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:32,700
Oh my gosh.
It's unexplainable.

1104
01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:34,600
It's like, no, it's very
explainable.

1105
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,300
You know someone to say it to
look at that video and say that

1106
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:42,200
well, that's not a submarine and
it's not a boat.

1107
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:48,600
It's just like it's a black spot
like seriously, it's like what

1108
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:53,400
could you Possibly deduce from
that to say anything towards

1109
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:54,200
what?
It's not.

1110
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:58,200
I mean, I have no idea, you
know.

1111
01:07:58,300 --> 01:08:02,700
It's just like Final thoughts
for this episode, just what

1112
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:06,500
we've covered.
I have nothing for against, you

1113
01:08:06,500 --> 01:08:10,600
know, Nessie or the Loch, Ness
monster at this point, maybe you

1114
01:08:10,607 --> 01:08:13,400
blow my mind with something, you
know, next week or whatever, but

1115
01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:21,200
whether it used to be or it is,
you know, I think that In my

1116
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:25,700
mind, it's a decent case.
There's certainly a lot of BS

1117
01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:30,399
though, you know, makes it
really hard sometimes, like,

1118
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:34,100
like what Jeff was saying, tons
of copycats tons of people that

1119
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:37,200
just want their 15 minutes of
fame and especially in a time

1120
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:40,700
frame, when very little, you
know, who's going to hold people

1121
01:08:40,700 --> 01:08:44,899
accountable and there was I'm
sure a quite a bit of people

1122
01:08:44,899 --> 01:08:47,000
that would just make stuff up
right?

1123
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,100
Because nowadays I mean every
building has a security camera

1124
01:08:50,100 --> 01:08:53,600
on it if you were in front of
any single store and you're just

1125
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,500
like Like yeah.
Like yeah, I was standing right

1126
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:57,000
here and I saw something right
there.

1127
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,000
It's like cool.
When was that you know, zip

1128
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,700
back, the camera.
Greg, let's see if we can see

1129
01:09:01,700 --> 01:09:03,500
something.
Oh, nope, turns out you weren't

1130
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:06,000
even standing there.
You're a liar, you know, it's

1131
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:08,500
just like, there's everyone's
filming something, everyone's

1132
01:09:08,500 --> 01:09:12,600
got a recording somewhere, but
so yeah, that brings up

1133
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,100
something.
I got a pet peeve, right?

1134
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:22,600
A lot of time is now you come up
with some kind of footage or

1135
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:27,800
something cryptozoologists.
People, and I hate when people

1136
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,100
immediately.
Disqualify it.

1137
01:09:31,899 --> 01:09:33,399
Say no.
Yeah, right.

1138
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,600
And one of the most common
disqualification disqualifying

1139
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:42,600
factors, right now that I hear
come out of, I can't believe I'm

1140
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:47,300
even saying this, but comments
on fucking Facebook, right?

1141
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:50,300
Scumbags?
The first things people will

1142
01:09:50,300 --> 01:09:54,400
say, well, he was looking for
it, so obviously it's fake.

1143
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:58,400
So you're saying if you went to
go look for the fucking thing

1144
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,000
and you saw it, you got it on
video that everyone would just

1145
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:03,800
assume it's fake because you
were looking for it.

1146
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,900
Shut the fuck up.
That's dumb stupidest.

1147
01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:09,800
Fucking thing.
Okay, if this guy was out there

1148
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,000
looking for Loch Ness and he
caught it on video that does not

1149
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,800
sway.
My opinion about that video in

1150
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,600
the least bit.
Okay?

1151
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:24,200
I can I can go through that
video with a fine-tooth comb and

1152
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:29,900
just qualify It for other
reasons, but I will never take

1153
01:10:29,900 --> 01:10:34,600
away from somebody going out
there and trying to get evidence

1154
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,900
for something.
Right now, what I hate also,

1155
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:44,200
another pet peeve is when just
like Jake was saying People go

1156
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:50,000
out there fake this shit and
that's when that mean so many

1157
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:53,600
people.
Now it happens so much that this

1158
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,900
is the reason why people say as
soon as they find out that they

1159
01:10:57,900 --> 01:11:01,400
that they're part of a Bigfoot,
searching group or lockness

1160
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:06,900
searching group or whatever they
instantly say no, it's a fake

1161
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:12,000
because so many freaking people
out there are faking the shit

1162
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:13,200
and they're all part of these
groups.

1163
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,200
Yeah.
Okay, so do me a favor, if

1164
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:19,400
you're listening to this you're
amateur or professional

1165
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,600
cryptozoologist.
There's no such thing.

1166
01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:26,300
Don't go out there fucking fake
shit, okay?

1167
01:11:26,700 --> 01:11:29,100
Don't do that.
That's not helping anybody

1168
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,800
anywhere at all.
I would rather see one video of

1169
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,300
something that could possibly be
legit.

1170
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,300
Let me, let me determine whether
or not it's a Bigfoot or a bear.

1171
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,500
Okay.
I would rather see one of those

1172
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:49,700
Those than a, an infinite amount
of videos like I see all the

1173
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:52,400
time, but your edsel's dumb
shit.

1174
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:58,700
Because both of those stances,
you put up both of those two

1175
01:11:58,700 --> 01:12:01,600
things take away from scientific
research.

1176
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:05,700
One of them says that because
there's some scientific research

1177
01:12:05,700 --> 01:12:08,800
going on than automatically
loses credibility, because

1178
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,000
they're searching for it, which
I've heard before, I've seen

1179
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,500
that before, and that's
ridiculous.

1180
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:17,600
It's like, yeah, I mean that's
why we're here.

1181
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,700
That's why we're filming right
now.

1182
01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:21,500
We're trying to show you that
this thing exists.

1183
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:25,600
Like, that's very Lily.
It's a very weird way to go

1184
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,000
about, you know, how you qualify
things in your brain.

1185
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,400
If you say that because
someone's looking for something,

1186
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,600
that automatically means that
they're making it up, but it

1187
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,100
happened in the same hand.
Yeah, I mean it does but not

1188
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:42,400
goes into the same hand of
people faking stuff, which you

1189
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,400
can't deny.
It's like some of those videos

1190
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,700
recently that I like I look at
him I'm like, oh maybe it'd be

1191
01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:53,600
cool if it was real but yeah
that thing is not walking like

1192
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:57,100
any Sasquatch has been known to
walk with their mid tarsal break

1193
01:12:57,100 --> 01:12:59,500
and the degree angle of like
they're bringing their feet up

1194
01:12:59,500 --> 01:13:01,800
and all that sort of stuff.
But you see these people walking

1195
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,600
around their costumes and stuff
and it's just like, you know,

1196
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:10,700
wow, how convenient that you had
your camera on a tripod and then

1197
01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:13,800
your buddy want to cross the
street in his costume and stuff,

1198
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,200
even if it's in the woods,
right?

1199
01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:20,700
And it just like but then leads,
people that don't look into

1200
01:13:20,700 --> 01:13:23,100
this, sort of stuff on a regular
basis and are just waiting for

1201
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:28,800
answers to say, well then, it
must be that people only get a

1202
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,300
video of it.
If it just happens by

1203
01:13:31,300 --> 01:13:33,900
happenstance, and they just whip
out their phone or quick and

1204
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:36,600
that's why you get all the blur
and everything that if someone

1205
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,000
is actually looking for
something, then it's a fake.

1206
01:13:40,100 --> 01:13:43,400
And you get into this weird Loop
argument where it's just like,

1207
01:13:44,300 --> 01:13:46,900
don't discredit.
People because people that are

1208
01:13:46,900 --> 01:13:49,900
looking for it or trying to
prove that it's real and then

1209
01:13:49,900 --> 01:13:53,400
people that are looking for it
are promoting fakes and it's

1210
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,600
just loops and loops and loops
and loops and so people end up

1211
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,500
getting all turned around and
then they just, you know,

1212
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,900
whenever I'm done.
But yeah, I agree with what

1213
01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:03,600
you're saying it's.
Um, but in this circumstance for

1214
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,200
me, like the fact that water can
conceal quite a bit and

1215
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,500
especially if it's a really old
video like that Patterson gimlin

1216
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:13,300
Bigfoot film where you can see
the muscle structure underneath

1217
01:14:13,300 --> 01:14:17,900
the fur and stuff.
That's your not concealing very

1218
01:14:17,900 --> 01:14:21,400
much even with it black and
white, even with it granny,

1219
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,000
because we have 4K stabilization
now on those sorts of things.

1220
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:28,800
But that video, that one that I
just looked up on YouTube that

1221
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,300
was crazy.
Could be anything.

1222
01:14:31,300 --> 01:14:33,800
Like, you know, it could have
been big.

1223
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,800
It could been small.
It could been far away.

1224
01:14:35,808 --> 01:14:40,700
Could been closed up.
I have no clue like because I

1225
01:14:40,700 --> 01:14:43,300
didn't to do anything from that.
I couldn't even see the shape of

1226
01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:45,500
a boat ahead or nothing like
that.

1227
01:14:45,500 --> 01:14:47,600
The Wake behind it.
I have no clue.

1228
01:14:47,700 --> 01:14:49,300
Right?
Could have been a net.

1229
01:14:49,300 --> 01:14:54,200
Could have been a tale.
So, to kind of just build off of

1230
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:59,300
that, it's kind of like a sick
twisted cries wolf, right?

1231
01:14:59,500 --> 01:15:04,500
Not nobody's, I mean, they guess
Bigfoot cries Bigfoot, right?

1232
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:09,600
Surprise messy.
The simple thing is stop fucking

1233
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,300
doing it, okay?
If you're planning on this

1234
01:15:12,300 --> 01:15:16,700
Grand, fucking stupid video that
you to make so you can get a

1235
01:15:16,708 --> 01:15:18,500
bunch of likes on fucking
YouTube.

1236
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:23,800
You got to rethink your life,
dude, or man, just don't do it

1237
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:29,200
because that's for me.
That's the quickest way to not

1238
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:31,900
to just wipe away.
Any respect that I could have

1239
01:15:31,900 --> 01:15:37,500
for you as somebody who loves
these kind of things, don't do

1240
01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:39,700
it except nasty you hating us.
So, I don't hate it.

1241
01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:41,700
I see it.
I want this to be real.

1242
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:47,200
I want I want, I love Cryptids.
I love monsters or love Laura

1243
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:51,800
mythology.
I Want this to be real and I you

1244
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:56,500
know you go to it and you look
for how it can be real.

1245
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,800
I'm really excited for the next
episode because I think they

1246
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,400
were handsome, really good
talking points.

1247
01:16:02,500 --> 01:16:08,800
Next episode, when it comes to
our final thoughts, Okay, Jeff

1248
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,600
you can talk now.
Well I've already kind of

1249
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:17,400
spilled the beans on what my
hypothesis is here about Loch

1250
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:22,100
Ness monster.
But yeah, I mean I think Ken's

1251
01:16:22,100 --> 01:16:24,700
are did a great job so far, so
I'm stoked for the next one.

1252
01:16:25,300 --> 01:16:27,700
Probably won't be here for too
many of these Cryptid episodes

1253
01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:31,600
but glad I'm here for this one.
So let's go.

1254
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:36,200
I'm glad I knew something that
you guys didn't.

1255
01:16:37,500 --> 01:16:38,200
Win.
Yeah.

1256
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,300
That Crowley lived at Loch Ness
dude.

1257
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,200
What kitty kitty kitty kitties
yelling at me?

1258
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:53,300
I know Kitty that that's that's
the end of part 1.

1259
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,400
It's got anything else.
I do not know.

1260
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,300
That's that's good.
You're doing great.

1261
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:01,400
So far.
So good, Jeremy.

1262
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:06,000
Yes, doing great doing great.
He doesn't have to threaten you

1263
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,900
with being fired, right?
Next time you have one strike

1264
01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:12,900
for missing out on the Crowley
thing because that is Is that's

1265
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:14,400
just something.
I feel like things we talked

1266
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,900
about when it comes to Loch
Ness.

1267
01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:19,000
But why it's?
So it needs to be talked about.

1268
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:22,500
Some it is wack job.
Lived at Loch, Ness, who he is?

1269
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,800
It wasn't going on.
I don't know anything about the

1270
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,400
guy and only have ever heard his
name here and there.

1271
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,200
Alright?
Anyways, I it just because I

1272
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,600
think it's a pleasure view on
the topic that we should

1273
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,100
explore.
Maybe we come back to it,

1274
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:41,600
someday down the future.
And I got you guys, bro.

1275
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:43,900
Well, I don't talk about a more
on the next news hour.

1276
01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:47,100
I got some info.
Why don't we dig into like the,

1277
01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:51,100
the Pagan Cults, that that Rome
that whole area before it

1278
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:54,800
became, you know, Scotland and
stuff and all the all the weird

1279
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,300
stuff they used to do in
witchcraft.

1280
01:17:56,300 --> 01:17:59,400
Don't kind of stuff, huh.
Oh, it doesn't matter but it's

1281
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:00,400
just an animal.
Yeah.

1282
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:03,300
Crowley.
There's actually a story with

1283
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:07,400
Crowley and the existence of
Loch, Ness of the Loch, Ness

1284
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:11,400
Monster.
Is there anything tying paganism

1285
01:18:11,700 --> 01:18:14,500
to To Nessie.
Probably.

1286
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,200
Yeah.
I mean if you believe in those

1287
01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:21,900
anything she said it with like
all the all the was it wall art

1288
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:24,300
and stuff you if you believe in
that kind of thing.

1289
01:18:24,300 --> 01:18:28,000
If you believe in ritual magic
you know you believe that it can

1290
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:32,100
open portals or doorways or
manifest or you know whatever

1291
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:35,500
term you want to use, right?
If you believe that then yeah

1292
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,200
totally could be I mean it's
relevant for sure.

1293
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:43,100
Because whether you're talking
about ancient cultures doing

1294
01:18:43,100 --> 01:18:45,900
rituals Right?
Which some would call ritual

1295
01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:50,100
magic today or this guy, you
know, 100 years ago or less than

1296
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:51,300
100 years ago?
I guess.

1297
01:18:51,900 --> 01:18:53,900
Owning a spot doing ritual
magic.

1298
01:18:54,500 --> 01:18:58,500
Think it's all relevant.
Do you believe it can open a

1299
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,300
Portis?
Prove it different shows,

1300
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,700
different show.
I know show that they talk about

1301
01:19:05,700 --> 01:19:07,600
those kinds of things but it's a
different shows.

1302
01:19:07,700 --> 01:19:08,700
Yeah.
But I mean, I want to see a

1303
01:19:08,708 --> 01:19:10,800
video.
This Jeff want to see proof have

1304
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,600
the tools to do it.
I don't think so.

1305
01:19:13,300 --> 01:19:15,500
That's a see, can I do it?
No.

1306
01:19:15,500 --> 01:19:17,300
No, I don't think he.
I type stuff, right?

1307
01:19:17,300 --> 01:19:20,200
DJ not CGS.
Yeah, CGI.

1308
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:21,100
Yeah.
Anyways are.

1309
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:23,200
Good job, kid.
Good job.

1310
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,100
Thank you.
Appreciate it.

1311
01:19:25,300 --> 01:19:28,100
I'm very much looking forward to
the next episode.

1312
01:19:29,500 --> 01:19:30,500
Yes.
I know kid.

1313
01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:31,900
He's yelling at me, guys.
I have to go.

1314
01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:34,600
It's like, do you believe in the
Titanic prove it?

1315
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:45,800
Nope, that's a grainy picture.
It's a lot listening cackling

1316
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:50,600
over there.
All right, all right.

1317
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:51,600
All right.
Is that it?

1318
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,800
Then that's it.
Okay, okay.

1319
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,900
Wow, with that, all being said
and done.

1320
01:19:57,900 --> 01:19:59,900
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1321
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:04,400
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1322
01:20:04,407 --> 01:20:06,300
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1323
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01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,900
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1328
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1329
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:27,600
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1330
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,300
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1331
01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:34,400
She sign fire.
But

1332
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:34,700
I