137. Black Hole Chats: Justin's Story

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Hey Travelers before you enjoy
this next episode, just want to

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give you a heads up in this
recording, we discussed some

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very difficult topics topics
such as drug use addiction and

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talks of suicide.
If you'd rather not listen to

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this episode, please do not do.
So we have plenty of other

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subjects for you to listen to in
our catalog of episodes.

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And for those that do choose to
continue listening listener,

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discretion.
Is advised.

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Welcome back to the infinite
Rabbit Hole podcast.

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I'm your host Jeremy and today
me sitting down with family to

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show something I've been wanting
to do for a long time.

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Before we do that, I just want
to give a shout out one more

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time to our old co-host, Jeff as
timeslip 84 for the new intro

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music, check it out.
You just some good stuff.

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And I am very happy and very
proud to be introducing my

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co-host for the night.
Somebody who came Crawling Back

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to the infinite Rebel.
He's not, he's not back back,

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he's not back by.
I had him, come back for this

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particular chat.
We'll get into all that later

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but Jake, welcome, you'd be
making me cry if I showed

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emotion.
Did it's good to be here.

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What's up man?
Do it.

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It's been a, it's a thing a has
been like, what?

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Two months?
Yes, I'm like that.

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But my God, I took enough time
that I was able to finally

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finish my motorcycle and then it
broke down again.

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It was badass, dude.
Thanks man.

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Tell us a little bit about it.
What color is it?

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It is.
The actual coloring is called

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play Pagan gold but I so, yeah,
I did a Cat eye, candy, Pagan,

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gold, kind of like lowrider
style paint job on it.

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So a lot of the cool stenciling
you get the Paisley type

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tablecloth or whatever and
you're spraying the airbrush

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through that and doing all the
cool Line work and bunch of

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honeycomb patterns or what not.
And then I used all of the

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negative space and I filled it
with Bible verses and Bible

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references like instead of my
V-Star tank badges, right?

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Because a Yamaha, And a Harley
or anything.

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But instead of putting the tank
badges on their, I put the big

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old Jesus fish with the cross in
the middle of it.

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So you know, from a distance,
you can see the really cool

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tricked-out paint jobs but as
you get up in there, there's a,

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you know, the back Fender has a
bunch of scale armor or bunch of

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scales on it says, put on the
full armor of God, on the sides

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you have, I can do all things
through Christ, you know, it has

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the Bible references on there on
the front, the front fender it

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says there's bands that go kind
of zigzag.

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Cross it and says I'm saved
Sanctified and Redeemed by the

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blood of Christ and then or
Washed by the blood of Christ.

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And then down the middle of it
says I'm redeemed and I got a

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bunch of like little crosses and
fish all over it.

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So it's it's really cool.
So I was really happy the way it

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turned out and I was writing it
for the last week and then

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suddenly I couldn't you know get
into gear and it kept kept

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slipping out and stuff and I was
like great.

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So now I got to drain all the
oil, take the clutch cover off,

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replace the springs in the pads
and then put it all back

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together.
So back to the front, Project.

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Well, that's what happens when
you're an amateur, so yeah,

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that's it.
But yeah, hopefully we'll be

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getting good news soon of a
pregnancy with Whitney.

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So, been doing a been busy, busy
Robin gone.

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A lot of cool things.
Opening up still getting ready

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to get out of the Navy here,
about six months prepping for my

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new job, that's going to be
outside of that.

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And just been enjoying, you
know, not having a time schedule

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and constraints with With the
show but it doesn't mean there

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is an absolute.
Yeah, I'm closing the book for

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good on that.
Certainly as things open back

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up, we'll see.
But for right now, I'm

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definitely enjoying the break
away from everything but you're

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killing it.
I'm listening to all the

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episodes and really dug The
Philadelphia Experiment.

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Actually, liked the point five,
more than the experiment itself

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carrying, you know.
Yeah, I was digging all the

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other weird chopped up, you
know, letters and stuff.

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Bear.
I like what you're doing, man.

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You're killing it.
That's a that's strange.

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I hated it.
It was so hard to read.

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Yeah.
You sound like a mumbling idiot.

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But I like to think there's a
view, which is very much cool.

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Well, now that we're all caught
up with you because people care

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about that.
Hmm.

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Let's go ahead and bring in the
guest for tonight.

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Yes please.
All right, I don't really know

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anything about them.
But I know he's a fan of the

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show.
His name is Justin.

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Justin, what's going on, dude?
Shalom, thanks for having me.

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I'm a huge fan of the show.
It's kept me.

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It's helped me go get through a
lot of tough days at work.

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And I felt like I became
friends.

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That's all of you to be honest.
It was just like man.

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What's going on with the
infinite rabbit all today?

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Like I'm not I'm not really
enjoying it too much at work, so

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put that on my headphones and
just yeah, they made my day

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every day, basically.
So So I quit recently actually,

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the put my notice in about half
a month ago and had some issues

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and my manager basically, after
I approached him on some stuff,

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he wanted to fire me without
severance pay and I told him he

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can't do that, come on suit.
But instead of firing me, he put

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me in a bit of a tricky
situation at work and I felt

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like I I want to work with this
guy anymore, I'm leaving anyway,

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so just just quit and now I'm
working on personal projects

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until it move to British
Columbia in about, actually I've

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changed my moving date since I'm
not working anymore.

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So I'm moving in about a week, I
think.

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Yeah, right on that is one thing
I did know about you is that

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you're from Canada.
I'm from Canada.

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Eh, you know, it's funny.
We knew we knew more people

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through.
I know more people through this,

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through this like whole thing,
the whole Podcasting thing from

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Canada than anywhere else, I
guess, it's pretty funny.

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So, Justin, what, what interests
you in the infinite Rabbit Hole,

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what kind of topics?
What kind of, what, what are

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you?
What are you looking for when

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you came across the show?
Well, I don't remember how I

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found the show, but I heard Jake
talk and something resonated

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with his voice and his approach
to stuff in my spirit.

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And while I was listening to the
first episode, Like Skies

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probably a Christian and this
would be really weird if he's a

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Christian on this type of
podcast because I've never ran

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into a podcast that discusses
these things with a Christian

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perspective at times.
And you know lo and behold at

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the end of the episode near the
end he said something about how

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he believes in Christ and I was
like Victory, this is cool and

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so I felt like the the platform
was so like open and everyone

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can have their own opinions and
like it wasn't just an echo

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chamber and it felt Felt it just
felt like real and it felt like

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just people having a
conversation about cool things

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and yeah it just invited me in
and I felt like it just it was

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it was sweet.
I don't know I like it so yeah

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Robbie I appreciate you well I'm
sure that a lot of listeners

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have noticed it but it's nice to
hear it.

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That people will recognize what
we were shooting for right that

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we were shooting for multiple
different viewpoints that we can

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all come together.
Kind of talk about these

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subjects from our own specific
ideas and viewpoints.

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And yeah, Jake has his
viewpoints.

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He doesn't believe in any of it,
but he has them.

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Yeah, I definitely I definitely
have a little bit more.

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I've definitely have a different
approach about some of these

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topics Than Jake does but I'm
still a still like that.

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He's coming at these things.
From a Christian perspective but

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I don't know what questions you
got.

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Is going to ask, but I'm sure
we'll get into something like

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that later on so well.
So, I got to ask you don't did

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you have a passive being into
these kind of subjects?

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Yeah, my past don't know how
depth you want me to get.

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But essentially I used to before
I was a Christian I was into New

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Age, briefly going into a cult
but nothing too serious.

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And you know I smoked smoked
DMT.

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Oh take magic mushrooms LSD
frequently, experimenting with

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internet research.
Goals that you order from, who

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knows where and they come in the
mail and you just take, just

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take em, trust trusting.
They're gonna do what they're

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supposed to do and through these
drug experiences.

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I was definitely seeking spirit
communication.

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I was interacting with what I
believe were beings from other

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dimensions at times.
Nothing, super tangible, just a

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whole lot of some things were
more tangible.

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Don't know how much you owe me
to talk about this subject, but

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you talked about as much as you
want, man, your story was nuts.

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I loved it.
It's your show.

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Did you never?
You never said anything.

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So I didn't know if.
I don't know, I didn't want to

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ask questions and then have you.
And then ask the same question

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again because I knew right away
that I was going to be on this

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episode with you a month ago or
something like that.

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So when I was, when I was 18, I
first smoked it was 18 or 19.

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I first smoked DMT.
And I was transported.

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I just wanted to put a
disclaimer like I don't

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recommend anybody.
Try this stuff, my past was used

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for for God's glory, but this is
dangerous.

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You are opening portals.
It is very unsafe and not meant

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to be messed with.
So when I first smoked DMT, I

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actually burnt my finger on the
pipe and I was like oh no.

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And then the whole world just
dissolved into like this

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kaleidoscope and I was Ported to
this other place where I was

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like with these gigantic
creatures that were building

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like these mechanical
structures, and it had like,

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interweaving sort of geometry
that was like non-euclidean.

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And so I learned their language
and I kind of felt at home with

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them and I felt like I existed
there for years and years and

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eons almost.
And as I was coming out of the

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trip, they were basically saying
like goodbye Love you.

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This is where you're from.
You'll be back again.

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And I came back and I was just
taken aback, and it was like,

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okay, so there's something more
to this world other than, you

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know, this physical reality.
And it was the first time I've

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ever experienced something like
that, where I went, what

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actually enter I interacted
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I don't know my later stories.
I definitely give Credence to

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credit.
So, to speak to like Spirit

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beings, this was I Would
consider a spiritual experience.

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Am I convinced that I spoke to a
Spirits?

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Then either?
It could probably be explained

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through scientific reasons.
I was in nature.

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Who knows how it all worked out?
I don't know.

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But over the years I started to
take psychedelics more and more

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and what ended up happening out
at this time.

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I'm kind of like another
Christian.

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I believe in Jesus but he's more
like a guy in my backpack like

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you know he's the dude who if
Get enough and yet acknowledge

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Him.
You get to heaven.

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That's all I was raised to
believe.

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And so with that, you know,
Jesus kind of was pushed out of

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my mind, I was practicing
Buddhism meditation mindfulness.

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I adopted like beliefs into in
the Hinduism acknowledging, you,

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no other deities out there, so
to speak.

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And so I was not, you know, by
any real definition, a Christian

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Christ, Consciousness might be
the better way.

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I I kind of adopted that idea
that we're supposed to evolve

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our intellect Ascend, you know,
and I was aiming for a good

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reincarnation cycle essentially.
So what ended up happening was,

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man, I wasn't expecting to talk
too much about this so I can't

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remember everything but don't go
farther than you're comfortable

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going.
Well we'll stick with that.

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I mean, we're not we're not
pushing it.

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No problem.
It came a point where I took a

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drug called DPT and it's known
as the light and I heard that it

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was used in, like a weird cult.
Crystal weird Christian cult

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somewhere in the state.
So I was like, I got to try

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that.
So I ordered that.

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time, my life.
I was, yeah, I was definitely

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far from God.
God.

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And I was teleported to his room
with his tourists, a torus

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shape.
It's kind of like the doughnut

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was inside of this torus and
there was these religious icons

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that were rotating in and out of
existence.

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rotate, they would change a

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different to a different icon.
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praying hands came in View and
it just all the, it was just

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this bright brilliant golden.
Why Light that just Shawn all

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around me and it shook me to the
core and I dropped to my knees

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crying out to God for
forgiveness because I recognized

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in that moment, the weights of
my sin.

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I'd never told Jake this but at
this point in my life I was

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actually a practicing not see, I
was an anti-semite, I was a

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racist, I know I have my shoe my
head shaved, but that's not any

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modern correlation.
So yeah, that was years ago, you

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know, I was He's an alcoholic.
I was a meth addict.

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I was living a completely
different life than I am now for

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sure.
And so, in that moment, God

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struck me.
He used, he used this drug to

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make me aware of my sin and that
the experience left.

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And I was like, I'm sorry, I'll
change blah, blah blah, blah

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blah.
But the next day, I was back to

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my behavior, you know, I was
drinking.

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I was doing things that
shouldn't be doing and but this

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time my life I was kind of like
like, I knew there was now, I

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knew that wasn't just the
spiritual reality that I kind of

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experience through DMT but I
knew there was a God and he was

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personal and I knew what sin was
a never knew about that

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beforehand.
So I got the wrong message,

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though.
I thought that psychedelics

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would be my way out and so I
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and more.
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like the machine elves started
to come in and most people say

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like the machine elves, you
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was pretty intense.
I was actually administering a

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drug called for a CEO DMT, which
is different than n DMT.

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I was in truth.
I was doing that intravenously,

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so like injecting it and that
that is actually able to still

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put you to a state where you
break through and encounter

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these entities without using NN
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So at for a CEO, DMT is a
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essentially.
So when I would, when I Go into

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these states.
The machine elves were very

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interested in interacting with
me in and around that kind of

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Godly experience and they were
deterring me towards Jesus.

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I knew this now I can look back
and I knew this for sure, but

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they revealed to me certain
things like this is a simulation

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and that that was like boom
with.

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This is the simulus is the
symbol is a simulation, man, and

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I was like freaking terrified.
I was so scared.

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I just, you know, I'm high,
right?

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But Right.
This broke my reality.

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I was convinced that these what
these entities told me was true

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and they were they were trying
to push this agenda of like you

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need to escape the simulation
and that is nirvana which is

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actually when you cease to exist
and so don't enter through the

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white light if you die and the
through some of these

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experiences, the Grays would
reveal themselves to me in the

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visions and they would put their
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And try to mend whatever was
going on inside and I don't know

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if anything ever happened from
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I don't know if I had any
illnesses at the time but they

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they would interact with me in
this way.

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And so moving forward, through
all these weird trippy

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experiences, I got put on house
arrest and I remembered that

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experience with God through that
drug and I thought to myself,

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maybe I can get there without a
drug.

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Maybe I can meet God without
doing drugs anymore.

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And so I put away the drugs and
I started to read the Bible and

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took a serious investigative
look.

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And I started to read the book
of Matthew and within a matter

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of a week Jesus matter of a week
of being sober and reading the

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scriptures, Jesus revealed
himself to me, not personally,

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he didn't just show up and just
say, hey, I'm Jesus.

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Up, he the light bulb went on in
my head and it was like, okay,

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the meaning of life is here.
Like I finally know my purpose,

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and the only thing for the first
time in my life, I was faced

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with the only thing that I
actually knew was true that

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Jesus is real and he actually
died for my sins and not just

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mine but the whole world and it
shook it shook me to the Core.

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Was the first tangible thing I
could ever say that I've ever

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experienced other than kind of
like, recognizing, you know, my

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sin.
This was like, the the Revel,

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the full Revelation that my
whole life was leading up to,

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and I was just blown away and
so, pretty quickly.

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I, you know, I repented of my
national socialistic beliefs

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and, you know, racism and God
took away my addictions and he

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was healing me and working on
me.

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But in all of that, I didn't get
the hint fully that psychedelic

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drugs were not something to be
messed with.

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And so because I met God through
those experiences, I still

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thought, maybe I could continue
doing that.

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And so, what ended up happening
was, I was on a trip once and

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this was after I've kind of
established stronghold in my

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faith and I was sitting there in
my room and all of a sudden And

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these black and white ribbon
wrapped all around me, in around

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the whole room.
And this being came to me with

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telepathic communication, and
it's told me that, you know, in

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a very intelligent way, it said
to me, basically, it's a, it's a

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wonder of series of facts, but
the reality is that God does not

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exist and I was like, no, that's
not true.

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God does exist.
And he was like, no.

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He doesn't exist.
It's just a weird coincidence

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that the way the universe looks
it just lines up just like that

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and you know he was presenting
me with these other theories

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like you know the Anunnaki and
like the alien beings planted us

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here like panspermia type of
ideology and I was like no no no

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no I know there's a personal God
who exists outside of his

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creation and with that he left
and then a moment later I was

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faced with this deep and
Powerful.

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Essence is if Jesus was actually
here and I was, I went down on

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my knees and I started to pray
like this.

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And when I close my eyes, this
being burst forth from this

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darkness and is now he didn't I
didn't realize it at the time

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because I was.
So in tune with the spirit that

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I was convinced, it was Jesus
the way he looked and phase me

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but he was.
He looked like Shiva from the

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Hindu religion.
He was blue Large multiple arms

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and he had this intense presence
and it was disguised like Jesus

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kind of like if you know like
how your grandpa smells right,

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you like oh that's my grandpa,
you know it's a familiar scent,

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it's similar to that.
Like it just had the aroma but

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it was totally not Jesus.
So I was convincing that moment

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that it was and this little
mantis creature came on the

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scene and it was like Like,
doing this weird little thing,

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and I was supposed to follow
along by not looking, but by not

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opening my eyes by turning my my
ears off and by not speaking

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anymore and focusing on it.
And it was, it was trying to

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hypnotize me but I didn't
realize it at the time.

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And thanks be to God because I
fell over and I opened my eyes

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and a deep sense of fear and
like regret and almost like this

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idea of torments Came Upon me
like deep anguish and Next, 10

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hours, I contemplated killing
myself in order to to be

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forgiven and I was now looking
back.

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It was totally not from God, but
halfway through this experience

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or part way through this
experience of just, oh, my

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goodness, I was all over the
place in my room Kant.

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I almost did it.
God, I believe he placed his

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hand on my shoulder, at one
point in this experience.

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And he just gave me the sense of
Peace for a moment.

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He said it's okay.
It's okay, you're going to make

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it through and then he moved his
hand and then I had to endure

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the rest of the experience
because I opened up a Gateway,

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right?
And you know you'd think that

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you'd learn a lesson but it
perfect little creatures, it

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wasn't but I still didn't quite
learn my lesson because I was

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going through a time of
depression, a couple months

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after this experience and this
was very traumatic, there is

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actually, I was not able to talk
about this for a very long time.

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It The most traumatic experience
in my life, but I was going

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through a time of depression and
I thought to myself, well, if I

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just take a little bit of
psychedelics that I had left.

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So, this is months after the
fake Jesus experienced that the

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that I would maybe get myself
some good mood and I was

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instantly put into this place of
darkness and Gloom and gross -

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and I was just like, oh my
goodness, I feel so murky and

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there was no visuals when I had
my eyes open normally, there

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would would be Trails or
something.

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It just felt like a like I was
in a Halloween movie and it just

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felt like deep and gross.
And so, at one point in my

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experience, my trip, this is
when I knew I'm just done

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because I can't do this anymore.
This is ridiculous.

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What am I doing, God?
I already know God.

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I don't need drugs anymore.
Yeah.

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Well, I close my eyes.
And I seen these beings crawling

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out from the darkness and it was
the first time this trip that I

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actually started to have
loosened Nations.

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And they were terrifying.
And I was like they weren't as

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real as the fake Jesus but they
were very like like like a wisp

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and very like Phantom as you
know and I said in the name of

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Jesus leave now and as soon as I
said that they open these doors

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to these like portals and they
slam themselves behind and they

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were sucked back until I cutter
darkness.

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And I was like, whoa, that's
crazy man.

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I've never seen anything like
that before, like I've never

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been able to interact with a
hallucination like that.

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And so, what ended up happening
was the Grim Reaper walked out

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and he sat down and he stared at
me and I said in the name of

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Jesus leave, but but death death
is different than a demon,

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right?
And he has the ability to work

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on behalf of God.
I believe there's the angel of

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death and he just stared at me
and this deep feeling like,

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okay, smirnov Duncan my chest
and so I haven't done

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psychedelics ever since
Hallelujah, he's ran.

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That is, well, I don't know if
you have any questions, but it's

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been about five, six years,
maybe.

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And that took a little
experiences, took a long time to

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heal from, but I never had a bad
trip before becoming a

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Christian.
And then, after I became a

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Christian, that's when the devil
and the Deep, the spirits that I

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was interacting with, just
frickin turned on me, man.

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They just First they let loose
that's for sure.

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And I think God that they did
because I mean I'm glad I don't

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you and that crap anymore.
You can have Supernatural

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experiences with God When You're
Sober, you know, God is able to

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Give you visions and experiences
and dreams that honestly are

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much more fulfilling than any
psychedelic experience or

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meditation or astral projection
and experience that I've ever

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had.
So yeah, I got that a lot from

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thinking during during your
story, both one you send me over

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messenger and here now it's just
like the amazing part of all the

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different things that people
will do to find God and you

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know, all these sorts of things.
Oh, you got to take this drug or

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you gotta Meditate in this way
or you got to practice this or

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blah, blah, blah, blah blah.
The Bible says that, you know,

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seek me and you'll find me, but
he reveals himself.

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You know, if you're earnestly
looking he just like, hey here,

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I am, you know?
Yeah, yeah.

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I like that, man.
I dug it.

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I was sitting there listening to
it and stuff and I was like,

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man.
I do need to get that, that

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Steve guy on Steve.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Was it the the new age guy?

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Oh, Steve, Bankers band.
Yeah.

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What a wild story?
Oh, dude.

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Yeah, thank you.
It's a buzz.

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That's crazy.
I wouldn't know where to begin.

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There's a lot here.
So DMT, we'll start with that.

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Yeah, dimethyltryptamine, I had
to look up that word.

446
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,900
You said the non-euclidean
geometry.

447
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:35,400
I was like, and I was, I got my
phone real quick.

448
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Like, I've never heard that word
before my life.

449
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,000
Oh, really?
Now, for those who are

450
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,600
unfamiliar with DMT, I also am
not too familiar with DMT, but

451
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,000
one thing I do know is that this
is the chemical that is

452
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,300
naturally released into your
brain upon death.

453
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:56,400
It's it's theorized there's
actually I don't think there's

454
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,400
any proof yet but it is
androgynous Lee produced in the

455
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,200
body somehow, right?
And they believe that the

456
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:07,000
sensation everyone seen mostly
in movies, right?

457
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:12,200
When someone's about to pass
away, they have that Phoric kind

458
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,300
of mentality to them like, hey,
it's okay I'm good.

459
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:18,200
You know, this is my time.
I'm ready to go and everything.

460
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,900
It's thought that is because of
DMT being released into your

461
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,600
brain, which helps the process
and makes it easier.

462
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,600
Now, I have also heard that
people who take DMT as a

463
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,400
hallucinogen have some
absolutely wild trips and I mean

464
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,900
Justin, but some some pretty
wild stuff there man.

465
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,100
I don't know the beginning.
I of all the beans I know that

466
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:46,000
there are tons of entities that
people will will come across and

467
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,700
a lot of people will actually
share experiences even through

468
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:53,000
distance.
So like somebody's in one house

469
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,500
or somebody's in another house
states away and they know each

470
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:59,200
other, they can meet up in the
DMT realm or whatever.

471
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,100
They refer to it as they can
actually meet up with each other

472
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:10,100
and go see beings that they can
then describe to each other post

473
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:12,500
awake.
If they if they call each other

474
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,600
and say hey remember that give
me the name of one of those what

475
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,400
they basically astral project
and see the machine elves or

476
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,700
whatever?
She knows, there you go.

477
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:21,500
But yeah, it's sort of like
that.

478
00:29:21,500 --> 00:29:23,900
There's some wild stuff like
I've looked into it a little bit

479
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:25,700
because it was a topic that we
were going to cover at one

480
00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:29,300
point.
I chose not to go with it just

481
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:31,800
because I chose a different
topic at that point and I just

482
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,100
kind of Got carried away and
some other stuff and it just

483
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:37,800
never came back to it.
It will be a topic that I

484
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,400
eventually go over.
But this is this is an absolute

485
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:43,700
amazing story, dude.
Very cool.

486
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,400
I don't think I'm glad I
survived at all.

487
00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:53,700
U.s. good, Jess good.
Is my name, Jeff Jack's Jake.

488
00:29:56,700 --> 00:30:00,000
What are the machine elves?
I've heard a lot of people talk

489
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,800
about the Moschino.
Can you describe the a note, you

490
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:03,900
know, Oh, what that, you know
what?

491
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:07,100
They are.
When you meet them, they are not

492
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:08,600
going to ever do any of this
stuff.

493
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,100
Like, I'm dead clean sober.
Been sober for five and a half

494
00:30:11,100 --> 00:30:12,700
years.
Now, I'm never gonna do this.

495
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:15,100
I never did it like,
psychedelics and stuff because I

496
00:30:15,108 --> 00:30:18,300
was always too scared, which is
probably a good thing, a healthy

497
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:23,300
fear.
So machine elves seem to lovely

498
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,200
people, describe what they think
are machine.

499
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,200
I was differently.
It depends too because like

500
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,400
depends on what you classify as
a machine off.

501
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,800
Some people will say the gesture
is a machine elf.

502
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,800
I think he's just the basic
entity, the machine elves really

503
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,800
seem like they have a presence
to them.

504
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,900
That's like, okay, I know what
this is.

505
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:45,200
This is something unique.
And you know, what?

506
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:47,500
I could, I wish I could show
send a photo.

507
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,100
Can I can?
I can fold, I can, The photo in

508
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:54,400
this chat here, here a, I'm not
sure about that, but you can,

509
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,700
you can absolutely send it to
our Messengers for sure.

510
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,300
I mean, if you look up photos of
machine elves, you kind of see

511
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:03,700
what they look like.
But I would I think a lot of

512
00:31:03,700 --> 00:31:09,800
these are inaccurate depictions.
That's similar to it.

513
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:14,100
Basically, they are this
intelligent.

514
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:24,900
Being. that is embedded in the
technology that makes up the

515
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:31,100
fabric of space and time and
they can slip and slide between

516
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:39,300
space spatial dimensions and
they can show themselves to you

517
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,100
and they like imagine if you
were to like, look at a

518
00:31:43,108 --> 00:31:50,800
painting, but the painting had
Since that was beaming into your

519
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:57,400
mind and the the condo is a
Consciousness to the painting

520
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:05,300
and you just knew that this
painting is a living being.

521
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:09,500
It's so hard to explain.
I mean Terence McKenna talked

522
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:13,600
about it about how they like to
give you things and they you

523
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,300
know they are very mischievous
and They like to hide and they

524
00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:21,100
play hide and seek, and they
dance around you.

525
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:24,400
And, you know, he often
described them as jumping in and

526
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,000
out of your body, which I mean,
that to me speaks about of

527
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:34,000
demonic possession, right?
You know what, what are they?

528
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:38,700
I believe in some some way they
are.

529
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:46,600
They are the spirits of the Dead
Nephilim, that's what demons are

530
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:49,100
demons.
Are the spirits of the Dead

531
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:52,500
Nephilim, and there's certain
types of these these spirits of

532
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:57,400
the certain types of Nephilim.
And somehow, I'm kind of

533
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:03,400
convinced that the machine
olives were possibly, some sort

534
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,000
of I don't know how to even
describe any of the stuff that's

535
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,700
the thing.
It's so abstract, it's hard to

536
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:15,900
describe, but it's like, it's
like they have this nature about

537
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:21,300
them, that is Cosmic
intelligence.

538
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,800
That's embedded itself in the
fabric of space and time, that's

539
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,300
the best way I can describe it.
And, of course, they visually

540
00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:34,800
can present themselves in a
visual manner, to Yeah, I can't

541
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,400
talk on actually doing DMT.
I've never done it but I gosh, I

542
00:33:38,408 --> 00:33:42,100
wish I had been that damn book.
I still have it.

543
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,100
I should read it, I should have
read it before this.

544
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,100
I didn't know this was the path
you're going down.

545
00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,400
You know book you should read.
I sent it to while ago, the

546
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,600
Bible.
Yeah.

547
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,400
Yeah I read that Hallelujah.
You know, actually I got a book

548
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,900
for that.
You might like it's called the

549
00:33:56,908 --> 00:34:02,700
Nephilim, a giant walk through
history and it talks about The

550
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:05,800
the Nephilim from the apocryphal
point of view, but it's

551
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,900
summarizes the story and
condenses it into 11 sort of

552
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:14,900
fictional account.
But like, looking at it from

553
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:17,000
like this, the apocryphal
sources.

554
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,300
And of course, like, we can
debate all day if that's Canon

555
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:22,500
or not, but I still think it's a
really great presentation and it

556
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:26,300
ties it in with Bigfoot and lots
of other.

557
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:28,600
Lots of other cool things.
Is he even talks about

558
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,100
black-eyed children and here
towards the end of the book and

559
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:34,000
UFOs.
And Um my friend wrote it and I

560
00:34:34,007 --> 00:34:36,900
just finished reading it and it
was a really good read so I can

561
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:38,800
send it to you if you want
Jeremy.

562
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:42,600
What was the name of it?
The Nephilim a giant walk

563
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,900
through history that it's my
Amazon with snow.

564
00:34:46,900 --> 00:34:49,900
Yeah, I just bought it.
You did.

565
00:34:50,199 --> 00:34:53,400
Yeah, well good, maybe maybe
Jake will take care of the

566
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,100
episode.
Yep, got it right here.

567
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,200
Jeffy.
Brandon Yeah, and you guys if

568
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,400
you ever have questions about
the Nephilim and stuff like

569
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,300
that, he's a, he's a good friend
of mine.

570
00:35:05,300 --> 00:35:06,800
You can always message them.
You can message them on

571
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,100
Facebook.
He's very open loves to have

572
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:10,800
conversations about this type of
stuff.

573
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:16,200
So if you look up, okay, I can
actually I can find a picture of

574
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,200
like a good representation of a
machine off.

575
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,700
It's from an album cover of a
album that I used to.

576
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:28,300
Like if you look up, jettison
mind hatch, you will find what a

577
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:31,200
my It is a fairly accurate
representation of what these

578
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,500
machine elves can look like,
that's his the depiction on like

579
00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:37,600
an album cover but that's how I
experienced them at times.

580
00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:40,400
But the thing is, is you
visualizing that and seeing that

581
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,800
image that is actually just a
rep like a it's a it's a

582
00:35:44,808 --> 00:35:49,200
representation but what it's
missing is it's missing its and

583
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:52,200
it's missing.
Its intelligence, it's missing

584
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,100
its awareness.
That's the thing is it's almost

585
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,700
like incomplete.
You need to see that with the A

586
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:01,800
ritual element behind it for it.
Really to make sense.

587
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:06,100
Interesting stuff, man.
Yeah, I'll, we'll dive into the

588
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:10,600
Nephilim sometime down the road
and, you know, yeah, if you

589
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,700
could put me in touch with him,
could be really cool.

590
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,400
Obviously, I want to read
through the book.

591
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,000
So I know it's wife, his wife
actually seen Bigfoot.

592
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:24,100
Well, well, that's more my my
going they have a video on it

593
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,900
to.
I can send you a link and all

594
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:28,000
that stuff.
If you have it, sir, absolutely

595
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:29,300
send.
To both please.

596
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,300
All right so cool dude that's
way.

597
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,600
I don't I'm speechless man.
I don't really know what what to

598
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,600
what to say.
I don't know what to talk about.

599
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:44,500
I know I'm not a I'm not a
Christian man, Jake is so

600
00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:45,800
Jake's.
The guy that's going to be able

601
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,200
to ask you the questions and be
able to talk on the same plane

602
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,300
as you with a lot of the stuff
that you're talking about.

603
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,400
I've never done really heavy
drugs man.

604
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,300
So I I can't talk on that that
plane with you.

605
00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:01,000
So I'm kind of in a Here.
I was enjoying the story for

606
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,700
sure.
It was it was I felt like I was

607
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,700
a long with your experience and
you you're very good at telling

608
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,800
telling it to really good at
about away.

609
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:11,500
Thank you.
That's actually, that makes me

610
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,900
happy because I've been nervous
and I feel like when I told when

611
00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:20,200
I talk to people, I often feel
like I'm thinking too fast and

612
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,800
so it makes me have like anxiety
about like if I'm like a prop

613
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,400
properly explaining my story,
but I appreciate that.

614
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,200
Thank you.
But I was able to picture pretty

615
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,200
much Everything you said, as you
were saying, it was really cool.

616
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,200
Very, very, very cool story that
you got there, man.

617
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:36,300
Jake, you got any questions for
him?

618
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,900
I mean, like Jeremy.
I never never.

619
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,600
Did you know, that sort of
stuff?

620
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,500
I was too scared.
My older brother.

621
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:50,000
He dropped a lot of acid back in
the day and still to this day.

622
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:56,200
He can't look at like a floral
pattern like wallpaper or like a

623
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,400
multitexture multicolored
carpet.

624
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,600
Whatever without it like
swimming and breathing and

625
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:02,300
stuff.
And it gives me crazy headaches

626
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:05,300
and he's, you know, 20 years
removed from all of that.

627
00:38:05,300 --> 00:38:09,500
So that's that's called HP.
PD, listening precipitating

628
00:38:09,500 --> 00:38:13,600
perception Disorder.
So is your brother Christian?

629
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,300
I think he was on the podcast
episode, but I never got the

630
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:21,900
hint of a Believer and he's not,
he's not that was a different

631
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:25,400
brother.
I've got 300, well, maybe, I

632
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,500
don't know.
I haven't really asked.

633
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:29,400
Okay.
Okay, he's finding his way.

634
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,500
Yeah, I had HP PD and I believe
I've been healed of it so it's

635
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:39,400
possible to be healed of it but
certain music certain songs can

636
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,100
trigger can trigger, maybe not
the visuals but the feeling of

637
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:47,000
being in that space and it's so
weird man.

638
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:50,500
It's just different than
anything you've ever experienced

639
00:38:50,500 --> 00:38:56,200
well in the the the presence
plane so to speak.

640
00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:00,200
I have enough issues.
I don't To add extra right?

641
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:05,400
No, I 100%.
Regardless of the disconnect

642
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,600
between, you know, how you were
living your life versus how I

643
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,800
was prior to become a Christian.
Same thing raised in a Christian

644
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:18,500
household fell away immediately.
As soon as I got, you know, I

645
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:20,600
would say that I was never a
Believer.

646
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,800
I went to church because Mom Dad
went to church, right?

647
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,400
And so that was basically the
whole thing became an adult.

648
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,100
Completely went to do my own
thing.

649
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,200
Always had this like knowledge
of God, but never a, you know, a

650
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,200
submitting to God, right?
Never relationship.

651
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,700
Just and I held onto that stuff.
Like I have a head across

652
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:46,500
tattooed on my chest and, oh,
you know, heaven forbid, you

653
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,600
call me on my own, you know,
lunacy, because I'm going to,

654
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,100
you know, throw it in your face.
But how, how dare you judge me?

655
00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,700
And blah, blah, blah.
Meanwhile, I'm a raging

656
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:57,800
alcoholic, I'm doing whatever it
is that I want to do.

657
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,200
I'm Around, you know, I'm just,
you know, just an animal and it

658
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:10,000
wasn't until I actually found
Jesus through a, a that, you

659
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,800
know, I submitted to his
authority and it turned any turn

660
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,500
my life around, right?
He completely hundred degree 180

661
00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:20,100
degrees, changed my life.
And you know, because I always

662
00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,600
had this knowledge, this
knowledge that the Bible is

663
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,200
true.
I mean we can you can make the

664
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,300
argument the Bible is untrue
because you don't believe in the

665
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,400
Oracle's or you don't believe in
the Divinity of Christ, but the

666
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,600
historic side behind the Bible.
I mean, 25,000 confirmed

667
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,500
archaeological digs for people
places and times, right?

668
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,600
Like we were just looking up a
when the Assyrian sacked in

669
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Northern Israel and in, I think
722 BC and, you know, and that's

670
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,700
in the Bible and that there's
actually historic, you know,

671
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,300
evidence to prove that.
That actually happened during

672
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:56,900
that timeframe, right?
The people that were there.

673
00:40:56,900 --> 00:40:58,300
There Chris is a pretty good
one.

674
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:00,800
Oh, for sure.
I think I said that to Jeremy at

675
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:06,600
some point but it's just like,
but yeah, I mean, I had it the

676
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,200
knowledge right but not any sort
of relationship to speak of, you

677
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,900
know, if anything, I was a
complete and total blatant liar,

678
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:17,700
right?
And then through submission, all

679
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:20,600
that change happened, right?
It was just like, okay, I submit

680
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,500
to that Authority, I submit to
your will over my life and then

681
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,200
I saw just these radical
mind-blowing changes and then

682
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,700
that's what Whitney my wife saw.
And then that turned At her

683
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:32,500
towards Jesus because she saw
the difference in attitude and,

684
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,500
you know, the way I was living
and you know how I treated her

685
00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:38,200
and how I treated others and
stuff and that's what she

686
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,300
latched onto to.
So yeah I mean I totally could

687
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:44,500
relate to what you're saying and
yeah, I loved your story.

688
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,600
I loved hearing it and I was
really hoping that I could get

689
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,000
you to kind of throw it out
there on the show.

690
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,000
There's a lot of Oppression I
think in like popular churches

691
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,300
and mainstream Christianity.
Stuff like that.

692
00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:03,800
And it's especially like the
more boring crowd side of it.

693
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,600
Just like that's for old people,
but it's not, it's cool.

694
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,300
There's intelligence smart
people out there that are

695
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:17,900
Christians and you're allowed to
have fun with it.

696
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:25,200
I mean, I believe in, you know,
Spirit beings I've seen demons

697
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,500
come out of people actually one
time when I was in the The

698
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:33,300
Yukon, I seen this guy and I
just felt like in my spirit that

699
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,300
he was possessed, something was
wrong with them.

700
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:39,300
And I walked up to him, I said,
hey, I'm gonna command demons

701
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:40,800
out of you right now in the name
of Jesus.

702
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,700
And as soon as I said that he's
goes, He shake it like this man

703
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,700
and he's just shaking shaking.
He's like that.

704
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,600
Why did you do that?
I hate when this happens.

705
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:54,900
I'm like what?
And he's like.

706
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:57,300
Yeah man.
Like don't touch me, bro.

707
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,900
And I was like, dude.
Get those things out of you and

708
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:01,200
he didn't want to let go of
them.

709
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:05,500
He was like, no, no no.
And he ran away shaking like

710
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,900
these demons are like halfway
through him unable to fully come

711
00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:13,100
out.
And it was like so my point is

712
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:14,500
you can have fun with this
stuff.

713
00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:22,500
Like there is a purpose and
there's a it's like Your

714
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,300
giftings.
And the the way that you

715
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:29,700
perceive the world, it becomes
clearer.

716
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:34,100
Like the lens is actually just
open up that sort of, scope of

717
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:38,100
like, what's really going on in
the powers that be that are

718
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:41,900
actually running the show and
everything behind all of that.

719
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:43,600
It just makes a whole lot more
sense.

720
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,400
Now, so now, you're even though
you drag yourself through a lot

721
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,500
of Heartache, I imagine you see
you come out the other side with

722
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:53,300
a really cool testimony that you
and share with people that are

723
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:55,400
still in that area where you
were, you know?

724
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:59,900
Yeah.
I I'm glad that I was able to

725
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:01,700
talk about in the show because I
didn't know what we're going to

726
00:44:01,707 --> 00:44:03,200
talk about.
I kind of thought, maybe

727
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,300
something like this, but I've
been trying to reach out more to

728
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:11,400
talk a little bit more about my
testimony and I practice my

729
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,500
faith from ahead break
perspective to.

730
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:18,300
So I keep the Sabbath and you
know, the the I eat kosher and

731
00:44:18,900 --> 00:44:22,400
all that stuff.
So it's funny because And that's

732
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,500
a 180 eyewear.
I wear tassels actually to and

733
00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:29,800
like, oh nice.
I got my prayer like that, like,

734
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,400
Messianic assigned here.
Yeah, I'm not.

735
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,300
Of course, I'm not Jewish but I
keep the faith from a Messianic

736
00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:40,000
perspective and it's interesting
because the one episode I was

737
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,100
listening to about the guy who
had that really cool story about

738
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:46,300
like seeing the guy with the
deer head.

739
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,500
Randall was his name.
Yeah, yeah.

740
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:51,500
Okay, so that guy at the end of
the episode he was like, I'm

741
00:44:51,500 --> 00:44:54,300
messy And I was like, what are
the chances of that?

742
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,200
That's so cool.
Right?

743
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,200
Yeah, she just reached out to me
the other day.

744
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,500
He's actually living out by
shots for Mountain cats.

745
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:06,600
That is Jessa shocked.
Shocked amount.

746
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:12,900
Whatever Shasta Mountain has
this incredible history with

747
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:17,700
portals to multiple Dimensions
animals from different timelines

748
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:20,700
Bigfoot.
This may go for the Bigfoot but

749
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:24,500
that's it.
Yeah, it's not So eventually I

750
00:45:24,508 --> 00:45:27,400
would like I would like to cover
that particular location and

751
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,600
episode would be pretty cool.
You turned me on to Bigfoot like

752
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,500
I believed in Bigfoot, but
Jeremy man.

753
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,500
I was like not convinced and
then when you when I heard

754
00:45:38,500 --> 00:45:41,600
episode, I listen to all your
Bigfoot episodes and I was like,

755
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:44,100
no, this is real, this is very
real.

756
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,700
And then I heard looked at the
Sierra sounds.

757
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,000
And as I was laying in bed and I
was like Okay.

758
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:53,100
No, this is definitely
definitely real.

759
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:57,400
And yeah, totally totally.
So thanks.

760
00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:58,600
Thanks for getting me on a
Bigfoot.

761
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,400
I didn't know.
Bigfoot was cool, man, but this

762
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,400
little or big foot is amazing.
And when you told me actually,

763
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,500
what really made me more like,
okay, this is probably true.

764
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:10,100
Is when you, when you, when you
talk to a Bigfoot, in mind,

765
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:14,500
speech because I've experienced
telepathy telepathy before, and

766
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,200
I know it's real, it feels like
your brain is being touched and

767
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,700
there's like the knowledge going
into your Mind is very palatable

768
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,200
and so when you told when you
talk to an episode about, you're

769
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,000
like, oh that's a Bigfoot mind
speech.

770
00:46:26,100 --> 00:46:30,100
I was like, wait a minute that
that to me just proved it

771
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:32,000
because I know telepathy is
real.

772
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,300
And I resonated with the fact
that like, who would make up a

773
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:38,300
story about how bigfoot-like
telepathically spoke to you

774
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:40,300
like, that?
Just seems so far-fetched.

775
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:42,800
I mean, I don't know what your
thoughts are about that, but to

776
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,900
me, I was just like, yeah,
that's that definitely resonated

777
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:50,500
with me and so, That's what got
me on a Bigfoot.

778
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,000
Well, let's touch on that.
First thing that's actually, the

779
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,900
quantum Bigfoot is how it's
commonly referred to.

780
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,600
And I'm pretty sure the episode
that you're talking about.

781
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:08,100
It was our interview with Carter
Bush sharp on his his evidence

782
00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:10,300
of enigma books.
One and two.

783
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,800
I'm actually going to be talking
with him very soon, very, very

784
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,200
soon.
He's gonna be back, I've got him

785
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,300
scheduled.
I didn't want to put that out

786
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:19,500
there yet, but it is There it
is.

787
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:22,600
Let's carve Richard would be
back very soon, everybody.

788
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,900
I personally am a
flesh-and-blood Bigfoot person.

789
00:47:25,900 --> 00:47:30,000
I'm not necessarily a Quantum,
but I'm open to it.

790
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:34,400
You know, if I had an experience
where, you know, I'm looking the

791
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,100
Sasquatch in the eyes and all of
a sudden, it's speaking to me in

792
00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:40,600
my brain.
Well, I can, I can easily jump

793
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,500
to the other side, right?
I'm not gonna say no, but I find

794
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:47,400
it interesting, just talking to
everybody.

795
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,900
That's just why I love so much
about.

796
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,200
These kind of topics is, you
know, like, I tell everybody, I

797
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,400
saw a Bigfoot, dude.
I mean, it's as simple as that.

798
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:59,900
I saw something that everyone
says doesn't exist, right?

799
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,500
Oh, you saw the one Bigfoot in
the whole world?

800
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:05,800
Well, first of all, yeah,
there's a lot of probably,

801
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,200
there's a lot of big fees and
yes, you know.

802
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,500
So I take everybody else's story
with a, you know, with an open

803
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:20,400
mind because everyone has told
me Me that I'm full of shit.

804
00:48:20,900 --> 00:48:25,800
So if I can see something that
doesn't exist air quotes.

805
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:29,700
So could have anybody else?
And it just may have been

806
00:48:29,700 --> 00:48:31,600
something different than what I
saw Bigfoot.

807
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:36,800
Definitely was my, my Gateway
corrupted to the rest of rest of

808
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,400
this.
Except for next year.

809
00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:41,800
Mrs. Halls of except, for Nancy
crazy face.

810
00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:46,500
Not a big fan of messy but
anyways I digress, I'm also

811
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:49,800
flesh-and-blood Bigfoot guy.
I mean, Like I'm not saying that

812
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,500
the other stuff isn't valid, but
let's just prove that the thing

813
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:56,600
exists but it's weird.
It's like people get so wrapped

814
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,900
up into it where they're just
like, oh my gosh, you're just so

815
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:03,900
dumb, and it's like, what is,
what's wrong with another animal

816
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:07,800
existing in the world?
Like I actually throw a teaser

817
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,400
out there.
I know I keep throwing out

818
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,500
teaser so who knows if I
actually do it right, but it

819
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:14,500
won't.
Everybody just don't ya ignore

820
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:17,800
this, but I wanted to go through
a series, which is the main

821
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:22,900
thing that I Like about this
show which is talking about real

822
00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:25,900
cryptozoology throughout the
world, all the animals that had

823
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:29,000
lower and mythology surrounding
them until some researcher

824
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,800
found, you know, a quote,
unquote extinct fish in a food

825
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,800
market or a new type of gorilla,
you know, up in the Chinese

826
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,500
mountains, right?
When everyone's calling it.

827
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:41,100
Like, the big hairy men that
live up there, I always sorts of

828
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:45,400
things were real.
Cryptozoology came through like,

829
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,900
even Joe Rogan, one of his
newest podcast he had forced

830
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:52,200
galante on there.
Is a, some, you know?

831
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:55,500
Yeah.
Chorus researcher guy and I, but

832
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,800
he, he was talking about what is
it?

833
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:05,100
The Tasmanian Tiger, right?
And he was, he was talking about

834
00:50:05,100 --> 00:50:08,900
that thing existing and how its,
you know, in relation to

835
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:11,800
cryptozoology but how that
there's so much speculation,

836
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,500
Sony pictures that still exist,
even after being claimed to be

837
00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:18,700
extinct, that is considered a
real Cryptid, right?

838
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,700
And so it's like just to kind of
let people know.

839
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:25,000
It's like, yeah, it's we're not
talking about fairy tales, we're

840
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,200
talking about cryptozoology,
we're talking about animals that

841
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,500
have been reduced to Legend, and
lore that have a very high

842
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,200
likelihood of existing or
animals.

843
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,200
That did exist that have gone,
you know, quote unquote extinct

844
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,500
that are still theorized to
exist, right?

845
00:50:38,700 --> 00:50:43,600
And why can't another type of
gorillas be in that category

846
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,000
they do.
Why is that so freaky to people

847
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,600
every single continent on Earth
with the exception?

848
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:53,500
Of Antarctica has primates well.
I mean, we don't know that

849
00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:58,200
because the Earth could be flat.
Well, it could be but it's like

850
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,300
the I mean, they have monkeys in
Mexico.

851
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:04,100
Like why can't there be a
nothing in, you know, Canada or

852
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:06,700
you know, exact States, right?
I know that.

853
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:10,800
Yeah, it's like, it's it's nuts.
They're, they're all over the

854
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,300
place.
So it's like people get all

855
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:14,500
wrapped up into it, but I'm a
big Flesh and Blood guy.

856
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:16,900
I think it's just another
creature that God created for us

857
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:20,400
to enjoy, although I'll be it.
In very small numbers and

858
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,200
population.
You know, since we're kind of on

859
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,400
that topic I think a lot of
people forget well not

860
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,000
necessarily forget but don't
really understand that

861
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,300
cryptozoology Cryptids.
It doesn't have to be something

862
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:39,100
as sexy as like the the fake
windigo Jewpacabra brother nor

863
00:51:39,100 --> 00:51:42,100
the the Latin American
chupacabra.

864
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:46,200
That's half aliens.
Half out your fucking face off,

865
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:50,700
you know?
And I like cryptozoology in the

866
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:54,200
whole like like you were talking
about the Tasmanian Tiger, also

867
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,800
known as the thylacine was a
once living creature.

868
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,700
I mean we have video proof of
this thing walking around like

869
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:05,300
this is, this is something that
within the timeframe of videos

870
00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:09,700
we have proof of its existence.
That's how that's how recent

871
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:11,100
yeah yeah.
How recently?

872
00:52:11,100 --> 00:52:14,700
It went quote-unquote extinct.
But now, I mean, people are

873
00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:20,100
seeing them in their backyards
and the, in the forest It and

874
00:52:20,700 --> 00:52:24,600
now it's a Cryptid, you know,
it's not necessarily as sexy as

875
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:30,400
Mothman, you know one flying
creature of the night with red

876
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,700
glowing eyes.
So sexy, it's gonna lie feet.

877
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:39,100
Mmm.
This is a marsupial who, you

878
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:42,400
know, instead of looking like a
kangaroo or whatnot, it looks

879
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:47,200
like a coyote with Tiger stripes
and it can open his mouth 90

880
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:52,700
degrees and it's It's just an
absolutely weird creature but it

881
00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:56,200
existed and very, very well
could still exist today.

882
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,300
And I love that stuff.
And then like what Jake was

883
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:00,100
talking about?
The coal Camp, right?

884
00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:04,500
This is, this is the prehistoric
fish that for a very long time,

885
00:53:05,300 --> 00:53:08,500
we thought was long extinct and
then it showed up in a fish

886
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:11,500
market.
I believe it was an Indian, I

887
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:15,000
could be absolutely wrong there,
don't quote me, we know they

888
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,600
exist now.
I mean, they're out there

889
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:21,500
they're still alive and there.
They're alive at a rate to where

890
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:25,000
they're breeding one or two of
them that we've seen are quite

891
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,800
young, you know, within like,
five years.

892
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:33,000
So it's, it's continuing it, you
know, it's just you get on like

893
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,600
these Facebook groups and
everyone's got these pictures of

894
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,700
like this strange creature.
And they want to make

895
00:53:40,700 --> 00:53:45,500
cryptozoology out to be this,
this horror film and it's just,

896
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,300
it's just not great.
It can Who know like old monster

897
00:53:50,300 --> 00:53:51,100
movies.
I love them.

898
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,600
I love them too.
There could be there could be

899
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,300
some of those out there.
Right.

900
00:53:56,500 --> 00:53:59,700
But what really, really
fascinates me is the stuff that

901
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:03,000
we can actually it's within our
grasp, right?

902
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,600
We can actually prove that this
thing exists, right?

903
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,500
Speaking of the Yukon has you
were talking about earlier.

904
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,500
I mean there are reports that
mammoths are still alive up

905
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:15,600
there in very, very small
groups.

906
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,300
Yes so I can bring them back so
they absolutely Ali will be

907
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:22,100
alive.
But I mean think about how how

908
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:26,500
vast the the Northern
Territories are mean?

909
00:54:27,100 --> 00:54:30,400
I mean, come on man.
You know better than I do these.

910
00:54:30,500 --> 00:54:35,300
These places are as rural as
rural gets and there's just

911
00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:39,900
thousands of miles thousands
upon thousands of miles of

912
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:43,200
square miles of land.
That's just not touched.

913
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:44,700
Could there be something out
there?

914
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,500
Absolutely. 100%.
Could it be a mammoth?

915
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,700
Yeah.
I think that there's a decent

916
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:53,100
chance.
Put it low, but I think there's

917
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:55,000
a good chance.
It's something we can grasp

918
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,400
something that's within reach,
right?

919
00:54:57,700 --> 00:55:01,900
I personally think that
something like that is much more

920
00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:06,000
believable than say, the Van
Meter visitor, which was a

921
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,700
flying pterodactyl with a
headlight on its forehead.

922
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:13,400
Just just throw it out there.
Yeah, I had to put that in.

923
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,500
There is the with the dodo bird
be considered a Cryptid.

924
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,100
Well, there is that.
Yeah, it depends.

925
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:23,900
I mean, it has have people come
out and said that, they'd seen a

926
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:26,800
dodo bird because that's, that's
where cryptozoology, really

927
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:29,300
draws a line, right?
Where you have prehistoric

928
00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:32,000
animals, you have things that
are extinct and when it becomes

929
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,900
cryptozoology is, when someone
says, hey, I saw do, that's when

930
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:39,200
it becomes a Cryptid, you know,
and it only becomes a stronger

931
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,800
Cryptid as more evidence and
more sightings come that you

932
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,900
have to, you have to have the
repeated sightings, you have to

933
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:48,700
have someone who claims have
footprint.

934
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:53,000
Aster or photographic evidence
or stories passed down to them

935
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:57,100
of of dodo birds.
And that's, that's really where

936
00:55:57,100 --> 00:55:59,000
it makes it.
And, you know, I think that a

937
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:06,400
lot of people get confused with
myth lure Legends when it comes

938
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,300
to cryptic Cryptids.
You know, they're looking at

939
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:13,500
these Legends lures and myths as
they are all Cryptids, and it's

940
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:17,800
just not the case for, you know,
for me like if we have physical

941
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:22,200
proof, Like the, the
Bishopville, Mauser, the lizard

942
00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:26,700
man of South Carolina.
Great, we have proof that that

943
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:32,600
something attacked a car, right?
We have teeth marks and and just

944
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,100
incredible markings on this
woman who claimed that her car

945
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:41,200
was absolutely devastated or
destroyed by this upright

946
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,100
walking Lizard, Man.
And guess what?

947
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:47,100
That's what the car looks like.
The car.

948
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:51,400
Looks like it got fucked up by.
Buy something with wisdom teeth.

949
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,200
I mean, think about something be
able to puncture through the,

950
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,600
the metal of a car like the cars
Hood.

951
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:02,400
If you ever get a chance to look
at it, I'll be covering at some

952
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,200
point, some point down here, and
infant rabbit hole, but that's,

953
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,700
that's the kind of stuff that's
that's feasible for me.

954
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:14,400
Where, although, the Van Meter,
visitor, is a absolutely

955
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,800
beautiful story.
It's great.

956
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,500
So it's entertaining, it's, it's
off.

957
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,700
But is there any physical proof
of it?

958
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:25,800
Is there any real historical
documents saying that this was a

959
00:57:25,808 --> 00:57:28,600
thing?
Now in the episode I came across

960
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:34,800
some things where yeah, it there
are some articles that clean to

961
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,600
have it, but you also got to
understand is that the timeframe

962
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,500
there wasn't any kind of real
source of communication.

963
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:44,700
So you got to take that all the
creative Soul.

964
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:48,100
So yeah, I don't know how we get
on that.

965
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:49,700
It's a Rabbit Hole.
Whoo.

966
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:54,700
Whoo.
So Justin, you got anything for

967
00:57:54,700 --> 00:57:58,200
us, man.
Just glad you guys are that.

968
00:57:58,300 --> 00:58:00,600
Jeremy your continue with the
show and Jake.

969
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,200
I'm really glad that you were on
tonight, that's for sure.

970
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:07,800
Yeah, for sure, man, though, I'm
still working on that, that

971
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:10,600
Ogopogo video for you.
I'll find something man.

972
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,500
But I remember when we did the
episode with Phantom, fill it

973
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:17,100
was sparse.
Oh no problem.

974
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:20,400
You don't have to bother with it
if you don't think it don't

975
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,500
stress.
I'm actually moving to BC and

976
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:26,100
I'll be very I'm going to be in
the Okanagan Valley.

977
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:29,400
If not break, right, right.
Right at the tail end of it.

978
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:36,500
I'm so I, I'll be like I think
like an hour or so, from from

979
00:58:36,500 --> 00:58:39,400
the, what is a, what is it down
there?

980
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:43,300
I can never remember it at.
Yeah, that that Lake.

981
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,000
I'll be I'll be really close to
there, so I might go up time to

982
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,500
time, check it out and I mean,
there's a lot of people live in

983
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:53,300
that area so I if it hasn't been
caught on video in a while.

984
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:57,100
I mean, maybe it's I actually
heard somebody talk to me today

985
00:58:57,100 --> 00:59:00,900
that they were hang gliding over
that area and they seen it

986
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:03,400
underneath the water.
Otter.

987
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,500
There are some recent ish videos
when they're not they're not

988
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:11,600
super recent like in 2020s but
you know, definitely in a 20

989
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,100
teens for sure.
There's a few of them.

990
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:18,400
I think 2008 was a big one, you
know, about that giant statue.

991
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,800
That's underneath the, the lake
there.

992
00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:23,100
I know.
I don't know.

993
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:27,700
So somebody made a Ogopogo
monster statue and they put it

994
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:30,700
in the lake.
Canton Road, the name of the

995
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:35,700
lake, but, um, It's terrifying.
If you were diving in the waters

996
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:39,300
and you just stumble upon this
thing for that big green one.

997
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,500
I think it's a green.
Yeah.

998
00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:44,800
It kind of looks like it has a
horse head and it's just, it's

999
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,800
weird.
Oh yeah, I've seen it.

1000
00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:50,400
Yeah, I've seen the statutes.
It's pretty funny freaky looking

1001
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,900
for sure.
I was going to ask Jeremy.

1002
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:55,000
Have you ever seen?
Have you ever seen a UFO?

1003
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,100
I don't know if your soil, the
I've ever talked about this.

1004
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:01,800
Have I, so, here's, here's the
thing, right?

1005
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,700
I don't like to.
Tell my stories very much

1006
01:00:05,700 --> 01:00:10,300
because I think it takes away
from my point on the show.

1007
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:13,100
I, I don't want to come off as
some as a fanatic.

1008
01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:15,800
But yes.
Yes, I have.

1009
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:18,800
I've seen to, yeah.
I mean, there's, there's things

1010
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,900
in the sky, right?
And that's, that's for true.

1011
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:27,500
So, when I was young, very, very
young probably in fourth, fifth

1012
01:00:27,500 --> 01:00:29,300
grade.
This is start with the probing.

1013
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,000
Yeah.
Oh, saddle up, do you want to

1014
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:39,300
Sell it.
That's just know we were playing

1015
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:43,000
ghost in the graveyard, in the
basically, the front yard of the

1016
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,500
high school in my hometown, and
we're just kind of, you know,

1017
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:51,000
all out there being two stupid
kids and the middle night and

1018
01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:55,200
something flew over us, man.
Say it wasn't, it wasn't that

1019
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,600
high either.
It was pretty low, but it was

1020
01:00:57,700 --> 01:01:01,500
completely silent.
And I grew up in the Northeast,

1021
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:06,300
I grew up in Connecticut And in
the area of Connecticut, there's

1022
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:13,800
a well-known triangular craft
that, it's not the tr-3b, it's

1023
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:22,300
different tier 3.
A but that, I mean it's just

1024
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:26,000
kind of always makes a.
It's it makes its rounds like

1025
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,700
everybody's up there scene.
It's just such a weird

1026
01:01:28,700 --> 01:01:32,900
phenomenon there in New England
with this.

1027
01:01:33,100 --> 01:01:37,500
This this triangular craft and I
saw one time and it just wasn't

1028
01:01:37,500 --> 01:01:39,500
very low.
Our it wasn't very high.

1029
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:43,700
It was pretty low, it had a
whitish dimming light in the

1030
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:46,500
middle of it.
Best recollection, is that it

1031
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:50,800
had red lights, you know, at
random spots throughout the the

1032
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,900
bottom of the craft and it was
it was big and like you could

1033
01:01:54,900 --> 01:02:00,300
like as it passed through the
sky, you can tell that it's

1034
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:03,900
blocking out Starlight, you
know, it as Going through its

1035
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:08,100
blocking out sunlight but the
color of it was fairly close to

1036
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:10,200
the night sky.
And if you ever look up at the

1037
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,700
night sky, when it's clear, it's
not Pitch Black.

1038
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:18,200
You know, it's like that off
hazy bluish black or grayish

1039
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:22,600
bluish black and it was kind of
mimicking.

1040
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,400
That is what it kind of looked
like.

1041
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,000
And that's just that's the only
time I've seen it.

1042
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,000
And me and my friends, booked it
on our bicycles, and we went

1043
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,300
home and we fucked off for the
rest of the day.

1044
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,400
And And I woke up, and, I mean,
I've talked about it a few times

1045
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,900
with my friends, especially,
when we were kids.

1046
01:02:39,500 --> 01:02:43,900
They never told me about it, but
I do not know, starting to think

1047
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:46,600
we're not besties.
Well, we are anyways.

1048
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:49,300
And then there was a, there was
one time when I was living in

1049
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:54,600
Florida, and man, I was coming
home from work one day, and

1050
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,400
there's a bridge now, down in
St.

1051
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,600
Petersburg, Florida.
There's a lot of bridges as you

1052
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,900
go into the beach, that, that
open up there called

1053
01:03:01,900 --> 01:03:04,500
drawbridges.
Yet you have to wait for the

1054
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:07,400
ship to go through or what, not
before the bridge closes back

1055
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:13,100
down and I'm driving up to one
of these drawbridges and there's

1056
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:16,400
like three or four cars parked
to the side and like crap that,

1057
01:03:16,500 --> 01:03:18,400
you know, I'm looking for the
red light that's going to come

1058
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:19,900
up with.
Tell me that, you know, we have

1059
01:03:19,900 --> 01:03:22,600
stopped and the things going to
go up and but it's not there.

1060
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:25,600
The car ahead of me just goes
right past these guys.

1061
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,900
And you know what not and you
know, all four or three or four

1062
01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:31,500
of these cars on the side of the
road all have their, their

1063
01:03:31,500 --> 01:03:34,000
hazards on.
So So I'm looking up and I'm,

1064
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,800
like, holy crap.
There is it there's something in

1065
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:43,400
the sky and it's so so weird.
It wasn't that far off the

1066
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,200
ground either?
I would say Jacob probably flies

1067
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:51,400
around the same height as what
a, you know, an h-60 would have

1068
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,700
flown and that's gonna fly like
10,000 feet.

1069
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:57,900
I mean, I'm talking about like,
you know, where when it's when

1070
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:02,900
it's cruising around the Norfolk
area actually like maybe 500

1071
01:04:03,100 --> 01:04:04,600
Thousand feet.
Yeah, something like that.

1072
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,200
Wasn't.
It wasn't that far up.

1073
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,100
And I'm actually on the phone,
my wife might hold on, Katie and

1074
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:12,200
me, I gotta stop and check this
out, you know?

1075
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,700
So I pulled up in front of the
line of cars and I was the very

1076
01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:17,800
first car.
I also got out and I'm like,

1077
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,000
what is that thing?
And the guys like, I don't know,

1078
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,700
but that thing was, like, way
down here.

1079
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,400
It was like 100 feet like off
the ground, not three minutes

1080
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,200
ago and I'm like, really.
He goes.

1081
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,700
Yep.
It literally just shot up and

1082
01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:32,900
it's just sitting there right
now.

1083
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,900
And then all of a sudden it just
goes up just disappears, right

1084
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:40,800
into the sky.
And my who, man, let me tell you

1085
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,200
that was that was some wild shit
right there.

1086
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,300
Did you ever hear?
I don't know.

1087
01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:48,100
If Jake told you this that I
sent him, the video that I have

1088
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:52,100
on my Channel about how people
who are being abducted by

1089
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,700
aliens.
Have been able to stop the

1090
01:04:54,700 --> 01:04:57,500
abductions by pronouncing or
calling on the name of Jesus.

1091
01:04:57,500 --> 01:05:00,700
Have you ever heard of that?
No, it's going to send you, I'll

1092
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:04,300
send you a send you a video if
you want to If you want to watch

1093
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:07,900
and talk talks a bit about that
matter if it has aliens or UFOs

1094
01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:09,800
in the side of my way.
Okay.

1095
01:05:10,700 --> 01:05:19,900
Because I've seen in a vision,
I've seen an angel carrying me

1096
01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:26,000
through what I think is the
third heaven and the space that

1097
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:32,300
I was in was very you know back
to that word non-euclidean very

1098
01:05:32,300 --> 01:05:36,100
interesting and I was not high.
I was laying in bed once and I

1099
01:05:36,107 --> 01:05:39,000
felt this electricity come upon
my body and all of a sudden I

1100
01:05:39,008 --> 01:05:41,600
was just transported to this
other place.

1101
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:45,500
This is far after I was done
using psychedelic drugs, and

1102
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,200
seen this tall light, blond
hair, light brown hair may be

1103
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,700
blonde hair.
Dye walking me down the corridor

1104
01:05:54,100 --> 01:06:00,200
and I was like, that's an angel
and but I wasn't me as a fleshly

1105
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,700
human being.
I was this sort of spirit being

1106
01:06:04,100 --> 01:06:10,700
it's hard to explain anyways.
So when I hear UFO abductees and

1107
01:06:10,700 --> 01:06:17,200
experiences the Travis Walton
one, for example where he sees

1108
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,300
the greys and then he gets moved
through the rooms by this tall

1109
01:06:21,700 --> 01:06:23,600
guy.
Wearing a blue shirt with like

1110
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:25,900
kind of long as she like brown
hair.

1111
01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:28,600
And he looks like a human being.
What?

1112
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,500
I actually never.
I so I had my experience with

1113
01:06:31,500 --> 01:06:37,300
this, but this angel, I believe,
very, very, very confidently.

1114
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,800
And then later on a couple
months or a year later, I heard

1115
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,200
about the Travis Walton story
and when he told me about the,

1116
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,500
the a alien being that's often
described as the Nordic, you

1117
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:52,500
know, the Nordic aliens, I was
like that's, you know, this is

1118
01:06:52,500 --> 01:06:55,800
where I was to where I believe
Jake doesn't seem to I don't

1119
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:57,000
know.
If he holds the same opinion,

1120
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:02,000
but it's a fallen angel and the
book talks a bit about that if

1121
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,100
you do purchase it, but I can
send you a copy if you just want

1122
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:09,200
this one either way.
And I was like, wow, that just

1123
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,000
sunk right into my spirit and I
was like I got to look into

1124
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,500
this.
And so I started Googling and lo

1125
01:07:14,500 --> 01:07:21,200
and behold ce4, I think it's
called ce4 research and they

1126
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:27,300
document the main dude works for
mufon and He's kind of On The

1127
01:07:27,300 --> 01:07:31,900
Fringe of mufon and he's
documented multiple encounters

1128
01:07:31,900 --> 01:07:35,000
of people who've been able to
stop alien, abductions, by

1129
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,700
calling on the name of Jesus.
And as soon as I heard that

1130
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:42,900
their demonic, the only problem
I had and I was like, okay now I

1131
01:07:42,900 --> 01:07:47,000
got it this makes sense.
So I urge you to look into that

1132
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,600
you like aliens and UFOs and all
that cool stuff.

1133
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,100
So I'll send you that.
I'll send you the video that I

1134
01:07:52,100 --> 01:07:54,200
have on my channel.
Yeah, definitely.

1135
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:55,900
Jeremy, did I ever send you the
video?

1136
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:57,900
Oh, that I recorded of the first
UFO.

1137
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:02,400
I don't know if I can show you
guys on this, if it'll, if

1138
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,600
you'll be able to see it.
Yeah, maybe we'll give it a

1139
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:06,600
shot.
Let's see.

1140
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,800
This was.
I recorded this.

1141
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:14,400
Probably back in 2012.
Is that that light there?

1142
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:21,899
Yeah.
What you recorded that Jen?

1143
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:26,100
Yeah, this is from the smoke pit
over at the Oceania, Barracks,

1144
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:29,100
no Schmidt.
And then the second one I saw

1145
01:08:29,100 --> 01:08:34,800
was over here.
That was like the Mountaintop

1146
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:39,100
not not Magoo because there's
Mount Chumash right behind us.

1147
01:08:39,100 --> 01:08:41,399
Right?
But like going towards that

1148
01:08:41,399 --> 01:08:44,000
direction but then the mountains
continue over to the left and

1149
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,899
there's actually a house that's
kind of sitting there on a peek.

1150
01:08:46,899 --> 01:08:49,200
I have a picture of it.
I don't Probably look it up on

1151
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,899
the, the Google, or the, you
know, the dress, or whatever.

1152
01:08:52,899 --> 01:08:56,100
Where exactly.
But anyway, it was a silver,

1153
01:08:56,300 --> 01:08:59,700
orb.
And I was, it was right there.

1154
01:08:59,700 --> 01:09:04,200
I mean, it was hovering like you
would expect a, maybe a

1155
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,399
slow-moving blimp, maybe that
was going like that was facing

1156
01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:10,100
us because remember, over at
Norfolk, the Goodyear blimp

1157
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:11,899
would fly over all the freaking
time.

1158
01:09:11,899 --> 01:09:12,700
What?
Apparently?

1159
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:15,200
They could just go through the
military airspace for some

1160
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,700
reason.
But anyway, so it was it was

1161
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:19,500
basically, as if Blimp was
facing us, right?

1162
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:23,500
So it was a shiny orb, but
hovering in the same way a

1163
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:28,600
helicopter would and it would
just, bam is gone but I I never

1164
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,300
took anything from it because
I'm like, I yeah, I live at a

1165
01:09:31,300 --> 01:09:33,200
military base that has a rail
gun on.

1166
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:38,500
It was like, are you really go
over what the one in Florida

1167
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:40,700
looked like for me but it was it
was a shiny work.

1168
01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:42,500
That's that's what I don't
think.

1169
01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:46,500
I said that orbs getting the
picture and the problem is with

1170
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:52,500
the whole orb thing is That a
light, the sun being reflected,

1171
01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:58,500
from a, from a shiny surface,
from any distance, greater than

1172
01:09:58,500 --> 01:10:04,400
like, maybe 100 feet would look
like, just a shiny light or just

1173
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:09,700
like an orb or whatever, right?
You would be able to see the the

1174
01:10:09,700 --> 01:10:11,500
intensity of the light coming
off that object.

1175
01:10:11,500 --> 01:10:14,000
You wouldn't be able to see
definite features of that

1176
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,800
object.
Right.

1177
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,100
So that angles or edges or
whatever it was, it would just

1178
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:23,300
look like a light or a, you
know, the sun being reflected

1179
01:10:23,300 --> 01:10:25,300
off of an object.
Yeah.

1180
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:29,300
So that's where I'm just like,
ah, I don't know, you know,

1181
01:10:29,500 --> 01:10:32,800
being around a military base.
I hundred percent think that its

1182
01:10:33,700 --> 01:10:36,700
military vehicles.
We're in, we're so deep and UAV

1183
01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:40,600
technology.
Now, you know, it's like I wish

1184
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,100
I had taken a video of it is.
You want to take back?

1185
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:47,300
I don't know what it was.
So obviously it was a UFO.

1186
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,100
It was something in the sky that
I couldn't get.

1187
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:52,300
If I, I don't identify any that
stuff is aliens.

1188
01:10:52,300 --> 01:10:53,600
It's just something.
I didn't know what it was.

1189
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:57,100
Have you seen those videos of
the two?

1190
01:10:57,100 --> 01:11:00,400
The two moons?
Yeah, but Dubai ones.

1191
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:04,700
We actually we talked about that
in one of our news episodes.

1192
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:09,500
Okay, I haven't gone to that one
yet, but I don't lie.

1193
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:11,100
I don't think you're really get
that anymore.

1194
01:11:11,100 --> 01:11:12,700
To be honest with you.
I think I took that off.

1195
01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:17,600
Yeah, says rabbit hole news, or
our rabbit.

1196
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,400
There's something something that
has to news in its in my save

1197
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:23,900
to, to listen to later.
Type of, to be fair.

1198
01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:25,600
We've done well.
Six or seven of them.

1199
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:29,800
Okay, yeah.
Depending I mean, I think I

1200
01:11:29,808 --> 01:11:31,500
always leave the newest one on
there.

1201
01:11:31,500 --> 01:11:35,400
And when we do another one, we
just, I just archive the other,

1202
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,200
it's been purging episodes that
are older than a year, which is

1203
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,100
most of them, most of, yeah.
All right.

1204
01:11:41,300 --> 01:11:44,600
Justin, we're going to go ahead
and start closing out, man.

1205
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:47,500
We're at almost an hour and a
half.

1206
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:49,400
I'm going to try to cut this
down to about an hour.

1207
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:53,100
Jake, do you have anything
before we go, man?

1208
01:11:53,700 --> 01:11:55,000
Hey dude, thanks for.
Reaching out.

1209
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:59,400
I appreciate you listening and
you know, we do appreciate that.

1210
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,100
You enjoy the original setup of
what we were doing with the

1211
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:06,100
show.
Got a lot of people that a lot

1212
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:09,100
of people that were that liked
it, right, that there was no

1213
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:11,200
Echo chamber.
There's a lot of, you know,

1214
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,900
through our own lens and
perspective of you know for me

1215
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,800
my relationship with Christ for
others.

1216
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:22,500
It was there you know for Jeremy
his relationship with science

1217
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:25,500
and how the world works and all
That sort of stuff and it's just

1218
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:28,800
like we enjoyed it thoroughly
and there's some people that

1219
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:30,500
didn't find that you know very
cool.

1220
01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:34,500
They thought that having you
know, there's a couple people

1221
01:12:34,500 --> 01:12:37,400
that definitely thought that
having my voice on there was

1222
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,700
stupid right and and got some
hate from that, but it was just,

1223
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:46,100
you know, enjoyed being on their
Android, enjoy hearing that, it

1224
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:51,800
brings you.
What is it that Peace throughout

1225
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,300
the day where you can, you know,
pop it on.

1226
01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:56,700
Because, you know, let's be real
life sucks.

1227
01:12:56,700 --> 01:12:59,400
Sometimes.
You know, regardless of what

1228
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:03,000
your job is, regardless of your
hobbies, you know, motorcycles

1229
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,600
breaking down all the time, but
being able to just pop it on and

1230
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,700
kind of skate for a little bit.
That's was the goal for this

1231
01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:11,000
because we came up during the
whole covid time frame rate.

1232
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,600
We wanted something where
someone could listen to us for

1233
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,600
an hour and just kind of escape
from the, you know, crazy

1234
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:18,900
nightmare that kind of
surrounded us at the time.

1235
01:13:19,100 --> 01:13:22,200
So even still All to did it
today that's that was the goal

1236
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:24,500
so appreciate that.
You're getting that from there.

1237
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:29,800
It makes us happy to hear that.
And keep listening to this is

1238
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:32,200
this is something I've wanted to
do for a very long time.

1239
01:13:32,300 --> 01:13:36,000
You know, I want more people to
reach out and want to have

1240
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,600
conversations with us.
So, you know, I get a lot of

1241
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,800
people who will message me and
be like, hey, you know, I'm

1242
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,600
thinking about coming on to the
show, but I've never podcast

1243
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:49,800
before and, you know, I'm
nervous and, you know, there's

1244
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,800
not A lot to it.
All you're doing is you're

1245
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:53,400
sitting down, you're having a
conversation with us.

1246
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:57,100
Super super simple.
There's no script, there's no

1247
01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:59,400
nothing.
I appreciate you being the

1248
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,700
first.
I hope this start something, you

1249
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:06,500
know, those are listening.
I hope that you're hearing this

1250
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:08,100
and like, hey, you know what?
I was pretty cool.

1251
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:09,900
I would like to have a
conversation with you guys too.

1252
01:14:10,700 --> 01:14:17,800
But no Justin that story.
Your story is phenomenal.

1253
01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:21,000
Phenomenal.
Awesome crew.

1254
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,400
Thank you so much for coming on,
dude.

1255
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:28,400
It means a lot that you still
listen to the show and thanks

1256
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,400
for having me.
No, thank you.

1257
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:36,300
I only discovered you guys like,
was it like, the cut was like a

1258
01:14:36,300 --> 01:14:38,200
week before?
Message Jake.

1259
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,600
So I got a lot of catching up to
do.

1260
01:14:40,700 --> 01:14:43,900
Yeah, long.
But I've listened to I think 90%

1261
01:14:43,900 --> 01:14:45,700
of your episodes, actually, on.
Geez.

1262
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,700
You started from day one?
Poor guy.

1263
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:54,300
Well think of how much he has to
go off with of jumped around but

1264
01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:57,100
yeah, can I plug myself a little
bit here?

1265
01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:59,000
I got her to YouTube channel.
Absolutely.

1266
01:14:59,900 --> 01:15:06,100
So Justin Hunter Dash TCM.
I don't really have a steady

1267
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:09,600
flow, but if anybody wants to
subscribe, I post anything that

1268
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,100
I think of I'm kind of making a
video game.

1269
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,600
And sometimes I post updates on
there, but I've changed

1270
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:19,600
Direction with that.
And so, Sometimes I interview

1271
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,000
people who have cool stories
recently.

1272
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:27,500
This girl, who was into the new
age and somebody who she was as

1273
01:15:27,500 --> 01:15:30,400
a medium.
She was connected to a told her

1274
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,300
it's a basically turned to
Christ and it was a fantastic

1275
01:15:33,300 --> 01:15:36,200
story.
So I interviewed for her and

1276
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,500
yeah, just you know, talk about
whatever whatever I'm thinking

1277
01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:42,800
about at the time.
So Justin Hunter TCM, your feel

1278
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:46,100
free to hit me up on there to
go, faster.

1279
01:15:46,100 --> 01:15:49,600
I just subscribed anything.
Get on to our Facebook group to

1280
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,200
we have self-promotion
Saturdays.

1281
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,600
Okay, I don't know.
Cool.

1282
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,800
Yeah, every Saturday public so
just just deactivated my

1283
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,300
Facebook so I only have
messenger because I'm writing a

1284
01:15:59,300 --> 01:16:04,600
book on it's taking too much of
my time so well if once your

1285
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,500
book gets out you know feel free
you can just jump on with us.

1286
01:16:10,100 --> 01:16:12,300
All right, I'm going to go ahead
and close this out, guys.

1287
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:15,600
Last call and anything else that
wants to be said.

1288
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:18,500
Nope.
God bless you.

1289
01:16:18,500 --> 01:16:20,400
All may the Lord keep you and
bless.

1290
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,300
You bless you.
Make his face shine upon you.

1291
01:16:22,300 --> 01:16:24,900
And give you his peace.
All right.

1292
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,300
All right.
Well there has been another

1293
01:16:27,300 --> 01:16:29,200
episode of the infinite Revel
podcast.

1294
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,100
Thank you everybody.
I'll see you next PATH of you

1295
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:37,700
for the rattle.
Bye-bye, you have to say it by

1296
01:16:37,900 --> 01:16:38,800
third of.
Yeah.

1297
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,100
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1298
01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:48,600
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1299
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:51,400
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1310
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1311
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1314
01:17:39,700 --> 01:17:43,900
You see that you were mine own.
Until next time.

1315
01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:47,700
Travelers, I'm Jeremy.
And I'll see you at the next

1316
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:50,400
fork in the path of the infinite
rabbit hole.

1317
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:03,900
I'm fine.