138. IRH News: UFOs, Disclosure, and Aliens in Vegas w/ Declassified Dave

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Okay, what's going on over
there?

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Okay, lady me.
My dad.

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And my brother.
We were looking at a truck in

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our backyard and we have a big
lat.

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I'm sorry, right?
Correct.

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Okay.
We are working.

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And we do see in a corner, I saw
something fall down from the sky

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and it was with like, and when I
hit down, it was like a big

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impact and we sell them for like
energy and then, and then, and

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then we hear like a lot of food
stamps near us.

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And then we have a big, a big
equipment and we see that

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there's a like, a, a, a full
person beside it.

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And another one's inside, and it
has big eyes and look at us and

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it's still there.
Okay.

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Where is this on your property?
In my backyard?

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I swear to God.
This is not a joke, this is

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actually correct.
And they're very large knife.

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Welcome back to the infinite.
Rabbit-hole podcast, I'm your

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host Jeremy and today we're
going to dive into what has been

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rocking the world.
That's right, UFOs.

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Aliens disclosure all of it
today.

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With my special guest from The
hush-hush Society conspiracy our

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podcast Declassified.
Dave.

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Welcome back, dude.
Thank you.

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Thank you for having me.
I'm excited to come back on a

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whole new whole new whole.
Yeah, that's a yeah, yeah man.

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So it's been different, you
know, but it was funny.

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I don't know.
Actually I can't really say

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right now, his Secrets.
Oh no, I can't today I can't, I

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can't, I can't well because
we're recording today's the

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20th, right?
So on Friday, I'm releasing

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episode where Jake actually
comes back, not fully, but just

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like, just to kind of guests for
a little bit and then you

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actually guest on two more
episodes kind of guy got so much

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content right.
Now, when we were like talking

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about, I was like, yeah, we
should we should get this going

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because I'm in a good place
right now.

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Actually going to go.
I was I was releasing an

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episode, every two weeks or
every month.

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Then I went down to planning to
do every two weeks, then the 10

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days, just because I had a lot,
and now I'm I just changed all

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my postdates to one week.
So awesome.

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And actually, squeezing this one
in next week, next Friday.

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Just because of the time
sensitive subject, you know?

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Because I put you at the end of
it will be passed.

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That July information.
Dump that supposed to happen.

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Yeah.
Yeah this stuff's coming a mile

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a minute.
Yeah man.

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So what's new with you man?
You got the new show up, talk a

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little bit about fattening.
Uh yeah has nothing to do with

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the other podcast.
It was just something more of a

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passion project that I decided I
was going to do.

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I wasn't really working other
than working on hush-hush

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society.
So I was like, I gotta get more

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creative and about you know,
maybe Ten months ago, me and

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old, buddy.
We're talking things didn't line

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up for six to seven months, and
then we just kind of Hit the,

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you know, hit the gas pedal and
said, let's just, let's just do

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this.
It's all about music him and I

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are both bass players, we both
played in the Connecticut

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metalcore.
You know, hardcore scene in the

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early to mid-2000s for about a
decade and had our own separate

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endeavors.
With different bands and we're

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just talking about stuff on the
road, the stage backstage,

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weird, weird stuff, and then a
ton of interviews with some

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people and the list is growing
and there's a lot of content to

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be released and we're right now.
I think we're going to stay

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Weekly right on, dude.
Pretty Connecticut seen.

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You've sold out Toad's, Place.
How many times be honest?

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Don't know if I sold out to his
place but I've played totes

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Place, happy.
Yeah, dude, I went to a mushroom

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head concert.
Oh yeah.

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What year was that?
I noted.

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Come on.
No.

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Do I have no idea?
I mean, shit.

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I was probably Now, I can't see
where it's I had to be like a

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sophomore in high school.
So must've been like 2002-2003

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ish, right?
In that, in that time frame

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problem.
I live in there, I might have

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been there my friends really big
into that band.

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I remember seeing Mushroomhead,
I don't remember if it was the

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Webster Theater or if it was the
or toads place or the oak

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Taylor, one of the other ones
but it was definitely in CT.

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I used to go to those places
because I was easy to sneak

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into.
But the reason why I asked man

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is because Does the listeners
here on the infinite rabbit hole

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will be familiar with a voice on
one of your episodes right?

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You had.
Westlaw yeah, he was a he was a

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great episode.
He got to talk about some of his

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fun Endeavors and we talked
about a very famous photo about

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him is a jet engine playing a
guitar which is, which is pretty

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cool, and it's cool to connect,
you know, people that I met

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doing everything conspiracy
related with, with my two

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Brethren from hush-hush.
And actually using some of

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those.
Some of those folks to be a part

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of a different project in this,
you know, similar creative

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Endeavors that we all have and
West is a, what's the cool dude?

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And there's some other people
that have been on this show that

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are going to be coming on our
show at some point.

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So just it's kind of an endless
topic music and we really wanted

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to get centered with people.
That are involved currently

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because of all the crazy times
and what happened, you know, the

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course of a couple years with
what it must have been like to

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be a touring musician and that's
your livelihood.

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So there's a lot of that and
just endless, you know, you can

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have an episode on guitar.
Pedals, you know what you did?

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Yeah.
Well, that's just one of one of

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many ideas, so there's a no
shortage of ideas.

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And that show is Pure fun, it's
super easy.

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Since I've been a little bit
weathered and experienced of

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doing podcasting for almost
three years now with hush-hush,

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but that show is lots of fun.
I'll cherish this ID is Trucking

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along.
We are having a great time and

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have had some.
I think the last 20 episodes

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have been extremely solid.
We've been enjoying them.

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We've been enjoying the feedback
and our season nine coming up is

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going to geez, he's laughing
already huh?

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Yeah, that's not soon.
Yeah.

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Beating a dead horse because I
know a lot of the listeners

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here, they don't know story,
right?

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We started the same time.
Josh took off like a fucking

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rocket, not gonna lie.
Little little on the gel side.

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That's ok.
Still love you guys but it's

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extremely impressive.
What you guys are doing?

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Extremely, I think it's fucking
great.

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And, you know, I'm just supposed
to thank you for taking the time

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out and come to come to hang out
with a little people.

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Every once in a while, man, it's
pretty awesome.

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No, it's not little people were
colleagues.

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Everybody's, you know, we're all
the same.

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He's taking care of his
community service today,

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everybody?
Yeah, you know I mean, it

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doesn't it did the way we have.
No, we don't think anything that

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we're doing is very impressive.
We're definitely proud of the

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effort that we put into the show
and it realistically is Pure

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fun.
We're not, we don't make money

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off the show, we just do it
because we enjoy bringing this

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type of content to people.
And it's a, it's opened a huge,

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a huge Network, and world for us
to just meet people, and

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actually make like real friends
out of it.

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So it's been, it's been a cool
process and we were truck and we

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got some Milestones coming up.
We got three year anniversary

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and month and a half or so.
It's so funny.

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You say this stuff man and it's
like yep Minds right there too.

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Yep.
Yeah we were like a week a week

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or so nine days or so away from
each other from what we all

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started uploading on Spotify.
So yeah, something something

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along those lines, man fucking
nuts, dude.

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Now congratulations man.
You guys are blowing it on the

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water, man.
Very bad.

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You guys.
Very very proud to get weirder

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so really I hope everybody
enjoys it.

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Yeah, we're we've decided to I
don't want to without talking to

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them disclose too much, but it
does.

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It's a, we're going for topics
that have been no pun intended,

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been hushed more recently, so
we're going to woo.

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Yeah.
And, you know, you know, and

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some out their stuff, they know,
we've expanded a little bit.

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You know, we're getting into
True Crime and serial killers

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and more paranormal ghost stuff
on top of it, on top of it.

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We haven't done a Cryptid
episode in, A year.

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So we're trying to get back into
that too, and not sure how to

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fit it into the show if we
wanted to replace a conspiracy

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episode with a Cryptid episode.
But it's all we're very, very

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busy cognitively on what we're
doing and trying to keep the

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parts moving, and people really
engage.

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But the next stuff is going to
be very I guess more topics that

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are in the news from my
perspective, from what I can

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see, ruffle some feathers, huh?
Yeah.

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Yeah, good world.
Needs it, we're about it.

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Good stuff, dude, good stuff.
All right, man.

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Let's, let's start giving these
guys with the came here for you,

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ready?
Yes, sir.

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All right, so I was kind of
explaining to Dave little

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earlier that I have four topics.
I want to talk about today and

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basically this this episode's
coming out quick, not as quick

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as I really Have preferred it to
come out just because the

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information that I'm going to be
putting out today, kind of been

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out there for a little while
better late than never.

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So first thing we're going to
talk about is this NASA thing

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before.
I spit it all out, you know what

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this is right?
Yeah, yeah.

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Nats the NASA stuff, the least
familiar with with all four

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topics, but I've been following
it, you know, pretty not

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Loosely.
But anytime I see something.

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I'm watching it.
All right.

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So Jump Right In right on the
last day of April.

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The North American space agency,
AKA NASA held an hour-long

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televised briefing, on the
existence of UFOs or what they

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are now calling you a PS, the
panel includes 16, scientists

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and a few other selected experts
for the public hearing that

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acted as an appetizer to this
quote-unquote final report that

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we should be getting in Late
July.

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So what came of this big showing
of brains that science while we

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did learn that according to them
NASA receives between 50 and 100

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new reports monthly in which
they believe somewhere between

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two to five percent.
Maybe unidentifiable they're

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compiling, a massive amount of
data to sift through and there

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have been a hundred and forty.
Four reports from military

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Pilots as of 2021 sorry we
couldn't get a more recent

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number.
That's the number that they put

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out during the conference here.
Dale did not rule out the

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possibility of some.
You AP is being extraterrestrial

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in nature something that they
referred to, as their quote

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unquote collection apparatus,
which is most likely a satellite

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or a network of satellites in
low orbit around Earth, is what

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they use to investigate the.
You AP reports in real time.

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The problem they stated with
releasing this footage is that a

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very large portion of this
evidence is from the top down

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looking onto private property.
They say that there are legal

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issues with sharing such media
without written consent.

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And another reason being that
they do not wish to create panic

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and local areas and one
particular case there was a set

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of pilots in one craft off the
coast of Virginia Beach.

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Believe that they flew past the
UFO turned around to get a

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better look.
And realize that what they saw

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was a balloon with a depiction
of Bart Simpson on it.

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Yes, it's true that we did not
get a ton of information from

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this highly anticipated event.
But one thing I would like to

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point out, Out is that whether
or not this is a distraction,

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this is something that we all
have been wanting a lot of

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complaining about what it was
that was discussed.

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But my questions to the
community are, what did you

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expect out of a preliminary
briefing?

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And is there anything that they
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made you happy?
So, basically going into, you

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know, these lot of lot of times,
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Facebook Twitter, even Tick-Tock
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You get these people that are
talking about the stuff in their

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complaint Planning about this is
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This these are shiny keys that
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that we can they can do
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Let me get let me get your

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initial thoughts on this first.
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I think it's it.
If it's a complete reality I

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think it's good for them to be
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would have a very big database
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said, craft or you APS or
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recently that I believe believe

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it was Steven Greer.
That said it but there's a

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difference between you a peas
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Hmm.
And the big difference is you

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APS is like a No, it was.
Who's the guy that used to work?

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For the penny was a Travis
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He's on that Skinwalker.
Ranch show.

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Mmm.
Yes, got you?

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Okay, that's that's he said it.
He said there's a difference

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between you APS and UFOs.
UFOs are on a diet of fide,

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flying objects, their physical
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phenomena.
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distortion or what people will
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lumped in UAP.
Is to just being UFOs.

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That's definitely how they talk
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of word play here and I mean
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going to talk about it in a
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There's stuff with Congress to
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from from NASA.
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of data to go through.
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underwhelming hearing or, you
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extraterrestrial.
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whistleblower after
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whistleblowers I think there's
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to a degree, I had a couple
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save them for the end or closer
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I'm just going to end up asking
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and over again because all four
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tightly knit together.
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how this episode was built, you
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that happened.
One thing that does coincide

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with the actually just thought
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Since you mentioned it when
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end of April isn't that?
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event because it was like May
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So, actually right there, it was
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11:50 p.m. and they had the
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They had the hearing the same
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I don't want to fuck up here.
Don't wanna put off the wrong

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information.
Here, something else happened

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that day too.
I can't think of it.

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Off the top, my head.
I'm sure it'll come to me and

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then, you know, we'll talk about
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Yeah.
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ask one first is I feel like
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with the least amount of talking
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Like you were saying probably
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They did an hour worth of just
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Yeah.
And they're not discrediting.

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There's their work and what they
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that it's their obligation in
the nation's obligation to

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determine whether this phenomena
oppose, any potential risk to

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airspace.
Safety.

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So it'd be, you know, whether
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know, right.
So one of the questions that was

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asked to the panel was could
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origin and they did say that
they can't rule them out.

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They also didn't say that they

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believe that it could be as
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Very very very cryptic but
here's here's the thing right is

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I'm you know I'm watching all
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I'm going to these these
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you're just hearing people
badmouth, badmouth badmouth,

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right?
And that's where the kind of my

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question comes from.
Is what could they have said to

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where they weren't going to get
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Like when would it be the
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And what would be the
appropriate content that they

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could have put out where people
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that this was all a ruse and you
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like we're stupid or whatever.
I mean I don't think there is a

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place in time.
And the amount of information

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that they can put out where
people are going to believe it.

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Because even if NASA has said,
yeah, you know what, these are

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extraterrestrial beings, we've
talked to him.

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We've got a couple of back at
back at the crib.

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People would still be calling
fucking Liars.

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Because I mean there's there's

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been proven weird things within
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I mean, the organization itself
is one of the Von Braun.

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Yeah, its own story, I think for
any agency.

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Clearly, clearly NASA is not
briefed on the clandestine black

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projects that are happening
behind even Congress.

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The president, you know, and
most of the military shot, only

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finally, leave Congress and
President or disclose a lot of

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this shit know.
And I think I think if all of

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those facets you have, if all of
the military, the White House

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Congress, the pain even parts of
the Pentagon that are not

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involved.
If they're not involved in, Not

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not in the need to know of
whatever these projects are.

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As Steven Greer, would say
they're legal projects.

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They, how could they disclose
that?

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I mean, realistically like we
would all love to hear.

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Yes, we have this and we're
being contacted by this, we know

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where they're from, but I've
been thinking a lot about it

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recently.
How I would feel.

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It wouldn't diminish me as a
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That's like the biggest thing is
like well we are definitely.

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I'm driving my combustion
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Yeah car and these guys are
drifting from Galaxy to Galaxy

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like it's nobody's business and
that makes me feel pretty like

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some garbage monkey that is
trying to get to the top Branch,

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you know, it's it, I think it
would be astronomically

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catastrophic.
Check for our society the way it

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is.
Now for them to fully just say

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all of this because you're
literally saying that we are

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maybe not even amid Branch
Animal, you know?

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And that would just it would
just rip the fabric of our

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society when it comes to
religion politics economics.

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And I think this quote, Steven
Greer again, he said that, you

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know, if you use like the
certain energy certain

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technologies that they Allegedly
have that it would, you know, it

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would destroy the one oil
industry.

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It would destroy like public
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So you wouldn't be getting price
gouged to have electricity and

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it would take away surface
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So massive, you know, asphalt
industry, massive massive,

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massive money makers and it
would just on top of If we, if

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they have 100%.
Yes, there are 60 blah, blah,

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blah beings that are visiting us
right.

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Now, we know about all of them
and we have some of their stuff,

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some of it's ours, we remade it,
some of its not There'd be you

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think we had bad riots in 2020?
Hmm, it'd be crazy.

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It's actually like really, it's
actually reinvigorated.

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My thought process on survival
in a post-apocalyptic could we

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had generate our own
post-apocalypse by saying aliens

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exist even though they already
have in a way?

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So it's, it's a weird, it's been
a weird five years.

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It has been an You know, I want
to, I want to be clear because I

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think I kind of came off as like
a as what are our famed

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commenter has called us.
She'll kind of kind of came off

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a little chilly.
There, I am not taking NASA side

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on this whatsoever like I don't
I I think they're crock of shit,

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you know.
So that's just my my opinion but

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the reality of it is is just
like you were saying, they have

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to put it out.
The trickle.

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If they're gonna put it out at
all, it can't be just a massive

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information.
Dump, could you imagine if

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everybody on this world found
out that where the ants, right?

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So, yeah, from our point of
view, we don't pay attention

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against or bugs or anything,
right?

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We just walk about and their
their existence is is nil.

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Do we don't pay attention to
them, right?

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Yeah.
Our technology is far more

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greater than ants are and why
would we ever share it?

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It rips your consciousness of
part of it because You're like,

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all of the Hobbies, I have the
loves that I have the music, I

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listened to the food, I love to
eat.

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It means nothing compared off a
something like that.

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So yeah, it would it would
destroy A lot especially

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especially in our society, which
is so at least in America

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fragmented and like very very
fragile right now.

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Yes, very alright.
Let's let's move on because

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we're going to we're going to
have a lot to talk about

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probably with this next one.
This is probably I would say.

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The second biggest topic that
we're going to talk about today.

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Then we're going to jump into
another one that we're going to

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end with the biggest one.
I believe.

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So we're going to jump right
into David groups.

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So earlier this month, June 20
23 for, those are listening in

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the future, a veteran of the US
Air Force and NGA or national

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geospatial agency came out to
the public and Congress about

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what he claims is the truth
about US government and they're

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almost century-long cover-up of
their knowledge and possession

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of both unidentified craft of
Unknown Origin and

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extraterrestrial bodies.
This man's name is David grew

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rich and he has set waves
throughout the world and seems

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to have created created a
starting point for disclosure of

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both alien life, visiting Earth
and the truth about what those

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things in the sky that we have
been witnessing for seemingly

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forever, but with every layer of
Deceit that gets uncovered more

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questions.
Arise as the public splits their

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opinions on whether this is a
way for the government to get us

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to look at the shiny Keys as
they conduct something far more

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Sinister and the other
direction.

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Or if this is truly a step in
the right direction when it

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comes to disclosure in his
claims groose describes quote In

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tag vehicles and a hidden race
between countries to identify

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UFOs, beginning in the era of
the Cold War and before you even

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ask.
No, he is not alone since the

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Whistleblower has come forward.
Many more with similar

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backgrounds, have unloaded their
own knowledge and since many

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have verified claims of their
counterparts, the changes of

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this, actually being something
of substance seem strong.

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Jonathan gray being one of such
members of importance is an

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intelligence officer who has
been quoted saying, quote, the

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nonhuman intelligence phenomenon
is real, we are not alone.

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Retrievals of this kind are not
limited to the United States.

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Either this is a global
phenomenon and yet a global

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solution continues to elude us,
another whistleblower Carl Nell

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a retired army.
Colonel says this about David

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koresh and his claims quote his
assertion concerning, the

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existence of a terrestrial arms
race occurring, sub Rosa over

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the past 80 years focused on.
Engineering Technologies of

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unknown Origins is fundamentally
correct.

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As is the indisputable
realization that at least some

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of these Technologies of Unknown
Origin.

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Derived from non-human
intelligences with literally

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thousands of amateur UFO videos
easily accessed on multiple

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platforms.
It has always been my personal

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belief that something has to be
to blame for them.

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And Groucho, offers the
explanation that the u.s.

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government does, in fact have
possession of multiple graph of

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Of quote, non-human origin.
And with non-human craft, there

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must be non human pilot trait.
Well, group has an answer for

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that as well.
And claims that, this is not one

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single isolated incident, but
rather something that has been

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continually happening since at
least the 1940s and the US

452
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,400
government has several craft and
bodies in their possession.

453
00:26:48,100 --> 00:26:51,300
And the government has spent
unfathomable amounts of money,

454
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:54,400
covering it all up from the
public, a few more notable

455
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,000
pieces of information from Cruz
and his Words have broken the

456
00:26:58,008 --> 00:27:02,100
surface since the initial flow
of information began, info such

457
00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,700
as yes.
They are alien but not from

458
00:27:04,700 --> 00:27:07,000
space.
They are from other dimensions

459
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,400
and they may have squeak through
during particle collision

460
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,200
experiments.
And one such craft that the

461
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,900
government has is as large as a
football field inside, since his

462
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:19,600
initial claims, the topic of
UFOs and extraterrestrials has

463
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,400
flooded newsrooms online, forums
podcasts.

464
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,600
And any other form of media, you
can think of the whole world

465
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,000
seems to be reacting.
And waiting for the next wave of

466
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,500
information.
Alright Dave, go ahead, man.

467
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,700
Say things I wish everyone was
ready, but if you still walk up

468
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:38,100
to a random person and say,
Lord, you know, when you're

469
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:41,900
going you're going like a public
Facebook thing and be like, so,

470
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:45,800
thoughts on UFOs and you'll get
a lot of a lot of hate still a

471
00:27:45,808 --> 00:27:48,200
lot of stigma.
The fact that it's being talked

472
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,200
about by everybody, rush is a
very interesting person because

473
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,900
initially, I had over her.
Third conversing, with some

474
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:02,700
other podcasts that Jeremy
Korbel and George Knapp didn't

475
00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:06,600
want to touch this.
But it came out last week that

476
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:10,900
they knew about this for like 16
months already.

477
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,200
Yeah.
They had already done an audio

478
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:19,100
interview and this guy David,
he, he, he's, he feared for his

479
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:22,600
life, you know, with some of the
stuff that he was coming out and

480
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,000
saying a lot of it kind of has
some similar parallels to Bob

481
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,200
Lazar store.
Three.

482
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,300
Hmm, even though he definitively
said and stated that there's

483
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:37,900
definitely bodies deceased at
least deceased and them being

484
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:39,200
allegedly From Another
Dimension.

485
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:44,100
That's a very interesting point
that a lot of this this type of

486
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,900
UFO activity.
Showed up when we started

487
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:50,100
ripping the atom we just did an
operation Fishbowl episode and

488
00:28:50,100 --> 00:28:52,800
it was very interesting because
we were trying to figure out why

489
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,700
they would blow nukes off in the
upper atmosphere and peace.

490
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,500
And most most of it had to do
with they were trying to rip

491
00:29:01,500 --> 00:29:03,700
through the firmament which is
an interesting take.

492
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,200
Hmm.
Yeah.

493
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:12,800
But it doesn't explain The
amount of artwork in other

494
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,700
Centuries with these objects
shown in it so we didn't have

495
00:29:17,700 --> 00:29:21,900
nukes in the 1400s.
So that can't be the only reason

496
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000
they must have been here already
and if they're interdimensional,

497
00:29:26,300 --> 00:29:31,300
and we're able to, you know, use
emps because every explosion

498
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:33,600
like that like a nuclear bomb
definitely, cause

499
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,700
electromagnetic pulses and that
can really Shift things.

500
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:43,500
I was listening to an interview.
It was a random UFO podcast.

501
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:46,700
Forget the name, sorry, dude.
But I was listening to an

502
00:29:46,700 --> 00:29:51,100
interview that they had posted
from someone at some panel.

503
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:54,500
I think it was a recent panel.
It might have been the same one

504
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,100
that Greer was at recently.
I forget, I don't remember

505
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:04,400
exactly where that was, but they
had said that the United States

506
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,800
at least since the 50s or 60s,
or so.

507
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,500
So had Weaponry that were
directionally EMP so they can

508
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:15,300
knock these crafts out of the
sky.

509
00:30:15,700 --> 00:30:20,100
Easy like easy peasy without
having to use Rockets which

510
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:25,100
would, you know, really make the
the posting of the Chinese

511
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:28,500
weather balloon kind of funny,
even more funny.

512
00:30:29,300 --> 00:30:34,900
But this, this is a I want to
believe so bad that there's

513
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,900
something else.
Because maybe my ego is not

514
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:44,400
involved in that.
But this guy's claims are huge

515
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:49,100
and there are 750 one other
people that are on our semi

516
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:53,700
redacted list that have come out
and said maybe not similar but

517
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:57,500
very very, you know, closed
accounts.

518
00:30:57,500 --> 00:31:01,800
So it's a and you had meant, you
just mentioned.

519
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,200
They have a retrieval program.
Allegedly 122 retrievals have

520
00:31:07,300 --> 00:31:12,000
Opened, since nineteen at least
1947 right?

521
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:18,200
So it's it's supposedly
supposedly they have, you know,

522
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,000
a lot of a lot of debris, right?
A lot of crashing crash debris,

523
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:28,500
but there's also I was reading,
627, crush, crush her crucial.

524
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,200
I think I called him a brush.
Whatever units crush.

525
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,300
He's a good guy.
Whoever he is, he was saying

526
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:37,000
something about six to seven
fully intact and operational,

527
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,700
but About this guy.
I don't know exactly what to

528
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:42,000
think of him yet.
It just don't write.

529
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:47,200
A lot of this is just super
Convenient, right?

530
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,600
He let go of his information in
the last week in April and

531
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000
immediately after that we get
the what we're going to talk

532
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,800
about in the last segment of the
show and then we get the the

533
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,800
NASA panel and then immediately
after that you have Greer's

534
00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:03,900
thing that we're actually gonna
talk about that next very, very

535
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:05,500
short.
I don't have a lot on that.

536
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:11,700
Just, you know, I'll talk about
that after that segment, but a

537
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,100
lot of people, a lot of people
are putting a lot of weight into

538
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,500
To him being part of the
government and coming out, and

539
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:21,800
they just don't trust it.
And, you know, I just want to

540
00:32:21,808 --> 00:32:25,300
say stop, you know, I understand
where you're coming from.

541
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,000
Because I also did read a little
bit about his George Knapp and

542
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,500
Jeremy Korbel conversation.
If you will, he needed to either

543
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:37,000
shut his mouth or come out so
far.

544
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,700
That he's safe.
Yeah, right, because if he

545
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:46,200
starts trickling out
information, this is how people

546
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,400
get on alive.
This is how they get Clint.

547
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:58,400
And so, he had to come out and
be so public about it.

548
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,300
He had to, he had to go to
Congress.

549
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:06,200
He had to go to the, the media.
He had to go to Jeremy and, and

550
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,700
be like, Yo, dude, this is
what's up.

551
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,600
So, so that alone, I don't know,
man.

552
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,700
It's such a, it's a rock, and a
hard place, it whether or not,

553
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,300
you're going to believe him or
not, but the way he did it is

554
00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:18,300
the way you should do it.
And I think people are

555
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:21,000
penalizing them for that.
I think what you need to do is

556
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,500
you need to take a look at the
contents that he put out.

557
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Yes, there's no photographic
proof, there's no video proof.

558
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,300
There's no DNA evidence.
There's no nothing.

559
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:32,500
Okay, we're all going off of
what he said, but the simple

560
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:36,700
fact that he's coming out And
wave after wave, after wave of

561
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:39,000
people are coming out either
confirming.

562
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:44,200
What David is saying or coming
out with their own stuff, that's

563
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:47,100
along the same lines and it's
very it's intense.

564
00:33:47,300 --> 00:33:50,700
How similar some of this
information is, you know, some

565
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:52,100
people are in different
projects.

566
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:56,300
No idea where we're grush was,
you know, I don't know exactly

567
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,500
what he was doing, but I could
tell you, one thing is being,

568
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,900
you know, ex-military that there
are things that I would do that.

569
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:06,100
Us would have an idea that I was
doing.

570
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,699
And I the same thing, you know,
vice versa and it could be just

571
00:34:09,699 --> 00:34:12,800
something that simple simple as
me working on an aircraft, you

572
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,199
know, me and my Squadron or
working on the h-60 helicopters

573
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:18,600
and Norfolk Virginia.
And then there's another group

574
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,900
of people over in San Diego,
doing the same thing on the

575
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:24,500
different h-60 helicopter, and
we don't know what their fucking

576
00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:29,100
doing and then that I think
people put too much into while

577
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:34,000
the stories don't match up.
Well, you know, I mean, put look

578
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,000
at This way.
I mean, if you look at the

579
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,199
corporation McDonald's, right?
Can do you know what's going on

580
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,400
at all the other McDonald's if
they're working or franchise,

581
00:34:43,699 --> 00:34:45,699
right?
I mean let's just let's just be

582
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:47,699
honest man.
So yeah, of course, the stories

583
00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:50,800
aren't going to match up.
They're not going to write.

584
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,500
But what you want to look for is
the similarities you want to

585
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,300
look for?
Okay, well this person's talking

586
00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:58,000
about this and somebody else who
claims to be part of a

587
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,500
completely.
Different thing is also talking

588
00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:03,500
about something pretty similar.
Another person who says, yeah, I

589
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:05,600
do I know Data.
I know him.

590
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,300
And yeah, I can guarantee that
what he's telling you is the

591
00:35:09,308 --> 00:35:11,300
truth.
Well, maybe maybe put a little

592
00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:13,300
bit into that.
That's just what I'm saying.

593
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,500
You know, I think people are too
quick to jump the gun and some

594
00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:18,400
things and and they're not
stopping and thinking about this

595
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,400
kind of stuff.
A lot of people have to, kind of

596
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,700
put yourself in his shoes.
Allegedly, to his story, in his

597
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:29,300
account, he just got so fed up
and I believe he worked at the

598
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,600
national reconnaissance office.
So like he was, he was, I don't

599
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,100
know where that actual office
is.

600
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:42,500
Is I should, but he got fed up
and pretty much, I mean, I guess

601
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:47,300
quit, I guess you could say.
And then just knew kind of what

602
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:49,300
Lazar said if he didn't go to
the media.

603
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:50,800
He was a dead man.
Yeah.

604
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:56,100
And, and if he walked out with,
you know, he probably has

605
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,100
sensitive material.
He probably has physical

606
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:01,900
material what it, whether it, be
pictures, and depth, at least

607
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:06,400
documents.
Where he can, you know, if he

608
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,100
has it on his persons and like
you said you'd start trickling

609
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:12,200
that one document gets leaked
here and ends up on Reddit.

610
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,600
It's going to get traced and
he's going to end up, not making

611
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,000
it home one day.
So I think it's the best

612
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,400
insurance policy.
And I think that could be why

613
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,100
there's so many that are popping
up.

614
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,200
There's been a couple, you know,
a couple more in the last couple

615
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:31,100
weeks since he came out.
And I mean, not everybody could

616
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:33,700
be telling the truth, there's a
lot of clout chasing in 2012.

617
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,600
So So absolutely, you know, it's
it could be.

618
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:40,700
Somebody could just be
fabricating what they're saying.

619
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:47,500
But this guy saying goes along
the lines with a lot of what a

620
00:36:47,508 --> 00:36:50,500
lot of other people are saying
whether they're even

621
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,200
ex-military.
I mean, some people are, you

622
00:36:53,207 --> 00:36:56,500
know, like Steven Greer.
We talked to Nick Pope, Nick.

623
00:36:56,500 --> 00:36:59,900
Pope did not want to talk.
He did not want to disclose

624
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:01,400
things.
He made it very clear.

625
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,200
I can't, that thing.
Just talking to quote.

626
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,000
Yeah, that was it.
Phenomenal, phenomenal

627
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,200
conversation.
I would have loved to have had

628
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,300
more time with him but he you
know we would ask him certain

629
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:17,200
questions and he was like I want
to tell you but I can't you know

630
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,200
and that was that was definitive
enough.

631
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,200
That there's at least Something
happening, at least with it

632
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,300
within his own government.
And he's he lives the United

633
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:31,100
States.
So he's, you know, he knows all

634
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:32,600
the stuff that's probably going
on here.

635
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,300
Being a part of the crew that
he's a part of so talking to

636
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:41,200
some of those people and then
hearing this guy's claims and

637
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,500
everybody pooped on Bob Lazar
for so long.

638
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:46,000
They're like this, guy's full of
crap, you know, he's saying I'll

639
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,700
stuff and some people confirm
certain things that he said, but

640
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:57,700
with David grush I think he Did
what he had to do and if for the

641
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:02,000
people complaining, if he did,
what he had to do to save his

642
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,800
self himself, he did it for a
better cause because we're about

643
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:11,000
to get some serious leaks.
And if for all the, the siop

644
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,800
people that are saying this is a
complete psyop there there, you

645
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,200
know, pushing this and pushing
that.

646
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,100
Why would, why would there be
documentaries and why would

647
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:21,200
podcast be allowed to say this
information?

648
00:38:21,500 --> 00:38:23,700
I think it's because they've
lost fucking hold of it.

649
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:28,700
I think I think there's they
don't know how to go forward

650
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:30,900
with this because it's not only
United States.

651
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:34,300
It's other governments Canada,
the Canada is even more

652
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,700
compartmentalize, just like a
handful of people in Canada that

653
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:44,000
know the truth and in here.
There's so many people working

654
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,500
on so many different types of
access projects that they're,

655
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,500
you know, they're ready to ready
to speak up the it would be the

656
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,800
hate to say it.
But If you bigger cover up the

657
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:01,700
9/11, you know, but it'd be it'd
be a, the greatest cover-up in

658
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,700
the greatest Sham, in the
history of the human race.

659
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:12,600
If this is all been fabricated
to get us to look certain ways

660
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,700
and to start believing and who
science fiction is actually

661
00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:20,500
real.
I really think that just coming

662
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,800
coming from animal.
We're both Americans and living

663
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,800
in our country in different
parts of our country.

664
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:29,400
I don't think people receive
that information to.

665
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:35,000
Well, I think they want it but I
don't think that they want it

666
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,000
because if you had the knowledge
of this guy had And think about

667
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,100
that, think about that eating in
your gut every day for years and

668
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:46,700
years, like you can't tell a
soul, you can't tell your

669
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:49,200
girlfriend, you can't tell your
wife, you can't tell your

670
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,600
family, you can't tell anybody
no matter how drunk you are.

671
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:56,400
No matter, you know, like you
can't say anything and then to

672
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,200
just get to a point to being
like well, If I quit then I'm

673
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,900
not a part of that, you know,
allegedly, you know, you're not

674
00:40:04,900 --> 00:40:07,200
a part of that, you know, the
contracts that you're in.

675
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:11,500
So you just spit it and run.
So for people criticizing this

676
00:40:11,500 --> 00:40:14,600
guy, yes, it could.
All it could be, it could be

677
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,600
some of it could be fanciful.
I doubt it because this guy's

678
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,200
got a real record in the
military and people vouch for

679
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,400
him already.
So it's that's big, you know,

680
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,400
it's even, it's even more
compelling evidence than this

681
00:40:25,408 --> 00:40:28,700
than the stuff that baubles are
set because there's some people

682
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:33,100
that They're like yeah, I know
him but his records were white.

683
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,700
So we have, you know, nothing to
go off at least we have pictures

684
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:41,100
and and not even pictures.
His record, his service record

685
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:45,400
is is right there.
So, something's going on to

686
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,300
where they're allowing it to
happen.

687
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:52,300
And I think it's because I think
people think that big brother is

688
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,500
actually looking over the
shoulder all the time, but I

689
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:56,700
think a lot of information just
gets out in the public Because

690
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:59,700
The Internet of Things and the
sea in the We live in is just

691
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:02,000
too big for them to control
everything up.

692
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,000
I agree, man. 100% agree.
All right.

693
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,900
Let's let's move on to this
little topic here, and then

694
00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:13,500
we'll end it with a bang.
Bang bang.

695
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:16,400
So, we've been talking a lot
about dr.

696
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,200
Steven Greer.
So let's go ahead and jump right

697
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:22,900
into his conference.
So in another conference that

698
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:25,900
the community is abuzz about is
the one that was held by the

699
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,400
famed.
Dr. Steven Greer once. physician

700
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:34,100
turned ufologists, the event was
streamed online and lasted a

701
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,800
little over four hours and it
was a man by the name of Eric

702
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:43,000
Heckler who stole the show
Heckler announced that the South

703
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,100
Poles amundson, Scott station
operated by the United States.

704
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:52,400
National Science Foundation is
actually a quote air traffic

705
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,200
control for aliens.
He described that in 2010 the US

706
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,300
Aerospace agency known as
Raytheon hired him as a

707
00:42:01,308 --> 00:42:04,700
contractor at the research
center, he painted a terrific

708
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:08,700
picture of a facility that was
already all inspiring with the

709
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:10,400
technology it showed on the
surface.

710
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,000
But it was the neutrino Ray
technology that the station used

711
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,400
to communicate with quote
unquote exotic, craft from outer

712
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:24,600
space now just for knowledge.
Sakes neutrino, raise AKA goes,

713
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,300
particles, are tiny subatomic
particles in nature capable of

714
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:31,400
passing through anything?
As if it wasn't there, the

715
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:35,300
particles literally just do not
Touch.

716
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:38,300
They don't they don't do
anything with other particles,

717
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:42,100
basically, like they're ignoring
them and even though they are

718
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:45,600
the most mysterious they are the
most abundant particle in the

719
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,600
universe.
These neutrino rays are produced

720
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,500
by quote unquote, digital
optical modules, a mile under

721
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:56,100
the station and look like a
powerful green laser pointing

722
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,800
the space.
When operated this conference

723
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,300
was kicked off completely
because of the previous

724
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:06,800
mentioned, David grush,
whistleblowing, So, I didn't put

725
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:12,400
a ton of information in this,
because everyone's dissected,

726
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,200
this everyone has dissected
this, and I'm going to be honest

727
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,700
with you, this was a bunch of
ufologists, right?

728
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:23,600
Nothing against ufologists, I
think they do, you know, cool

729
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:24,700
thing.
And I'm actually jealous of the

730
00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:37,100
drop but the, the community that
I associate myself, With tends

731
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:40,600
to have some of the biggest
crack box to.

732
00:43:40,900 --> 00:43:46,700
I'm not saying that everybody at
Greer's thing that he was

733
00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:49,600
holding.
His crackpots are crackpots.

734
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:56,400
But what I'm saying is is that
every one of them Except for a

735
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:59,600
select few.
We're amateurs.

736
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,100
Okay, I'm an amateur.
If I showed up to this thing and

737
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:06,900
I started spewing off UFO facts.
I'm nobody.

738
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:10,100
That you should be taking your
information from, okay.

739
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,900
I'm a guy who does a podcast and
that's the kind of people that

740
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:17,400
were showing up there.
This was also a thing that was

741
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:20,500
held online where people that
were online.

742
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,800
We're able to speak and present.
How do you feel about Steven

743
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:25,000
Greer?
Let me ask you that.

744
00:44:25,300 --> 00:44:29,000
I'm indifferent, I can't tell.
I don't want to throw shade at

745
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,300
him and say that this guy's a
grifter, but, but a lot of the

746
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:35,600
things, there's a lot of things
that I want to watch that he's

747
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,900
produced and I already have the
subscription to the service.

748
00:44:38,900 --> 00:44:41,700
And now I have to pay an extra
$20 to watch what he, what he,

749
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:46,000
what he puts out, which is that
type of pay wall, that's

750
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:52,900
personal but I think he if he's
got a lot of claims, you know,

751
00:44:52,900 --> 00:44:56,900
you have the serious account.
Has with that, that what is it

752
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,600
12 or 6 inch?
Little being that he claims was

753
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,900
a being.
He's got a few other programs

754
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:10,000
that he's made but I did get to
listen to a portion of his stuff

755
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,000
and I still don't know about
him.

756
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,400
I really if he's telling the
truth, he's very knowledgeable

757
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,700
and I have and he does say
openly that he's been attempts

758
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:25,200
at his life which would make me
believe if he is saying this.

759
00:45:25,300 --> 00:45:28,600
Type of stuff.
A lot of it is really out there

760
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,100
like really out there.
Yeah.

761
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:37,600
Like the Close Encounters of the
Fifth Fifth there, something he

762
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,600
has like ETS of the fifth kind
some documentary weather like

763
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:45,500
telekinetically channeling
around a campfire UFOs.

764
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:52,600
Which was very I mean you can
doctor any any type of reality

765
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:59,600
television show or any type of
TV with film but his speech at

766
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,700
one of these conferences was
very interesting and he does

767
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:10,300
talk about multiple things that
kind of like I don't want to say

768
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:14,900
it's made me like jump a certain
way but it made me raise my

769
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:17,500
eyebrow look a different
direction on some of the things

770
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,600
that he says, where some of the
things that we see.

771
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,500
Are actually either a, a, a
drone that's man-made, a man

772
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:31,900
Recreation.
I don't think he Ever doubts or

773
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:37,200
says that these things are just
developed organically by us,

774
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,000
we've definitely
reverse-engineered something and

775
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,800
then some of them are actual
ETS.

776
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:47,300
The one thing that he's gotten
the most flak from about this

777
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:53,200
stuff, is his softness of saying
all the ET UFOs, you ap's?

778
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,500
Yeah, are all not hostile.
Allegedly saying 60-something

779
00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:03,500
races but the ones that are
reverse engineered by man are

780
00:47:03,500 --> 00:47:07,500
hostile to National Security
because if other countries get

781
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:12,100
them, obviously we are very good
at blowing ourselves up, so,

782
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:17,900
it's, it's a blowing each other
up, you know, we're good at

783
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:26,000
that, and that would be one
really weird thing to know that.

784
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:30,400
All of these alleged races are
non-hostile, but he does make a

785
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,000
fair point in his speech where
he does say, if they have the

786
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,000
technology to do what they're
doing, they could just delete

787
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,500
our space-time like that.
If they really wanted to, they

788
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:43,400
didn't have to use like an
Independence Day, big laser

789
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,100
beams and blow up the Empire
State Building.

790
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,300
You know, they wouldn't do it
conventionally.

791
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:52,600
They could just literally Turn
our space-time off and just

792
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:58,200
vaporized be done in like a pest
control just spraying and he'll

793
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:03,300
just completely eliminating
their reality.

794
00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:06,100
Our reality.
I don't know if I believe that

795
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:10,500
the intentions I don't think we
can ever unless you've spoken to

796
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:14,300
an alien, you can't say their
intentions of what ET is, let

797
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:18,000
alone multiple species from
multiple star systems on

798
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,400
evolutionary.
Paths and different Technologies

799
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,100
and do they have ethics and
morals.

800
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:26,800
And but if they are that
advanced, then they would have

801
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,600
had Advanced, they would have
advanced past.

802
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,300
The, this guy's staring at me.
I want to fight a Sprite so, you

803
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:39,300
know, we're very primitive.
Still, we're good for that.

804
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:43,000
We're good for that thing on her
chest, you know?

805
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,200
Like, that's what we do.
Yo, bro, what are you looking

806
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,900
at?
Yeah, the Toots looking at me,

807
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:51,200
funny.
And we get mad at that, we get

808
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:55,000
angry at really ridiculous stuff
and so, I don't think that they

809
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,500
would concern us.
I think that if our planet is a

810
00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:04,900
special as weave, Come to
believe that, you know, it's

811
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:06,900
like going to the San Diego Zoo.
It's world.

812
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:12,400
Renowned, why wouldn't it be
Galactic Lee renowned, that this

813
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,700
is, this is an oasis where you
can go or and a lot of them

814
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:17,400
could be from here, like you
said in the beginning of this

815
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,100
episode that interdimensional
but there's like you said,

816
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:24,500
there's a lot of crackpots.
I don't want it, I don't want to

817
00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:28,400
talk shit.
But when cast and iy red, dark

818
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,400
Fleet and The entire book was
cited in all of a sudden all the

819
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:36,600
factual information was cited
from Wikipedia and I don't know

820
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,100
how much I can believe that
stuff.

821
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:42,000
I'd the secret space program you
know the Galactic Federation all

822
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,400
that stuff.
It could very well be real.

823
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,800
But I think that might be the
sayegh and what we're dealing

824
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,700
with is something far Stranger
Than the government that has no

825
00:49:52,700 --> 00:49:55,500
knowledge of, it can even
explain and I think that's where

826
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:58,100
we're at is the Public's got
their shoulders up the

827
00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:00,300
government's got their shoulders
up the Militaries, got their

828
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:04,800
shoulders up and then there's a
group of people that we, all may

829
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,400
be nameless that we all talk
about.

830
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,800
That knows what's up?
Hmm.

831
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,200
So Greer.
I don't know if he's if he's

832
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,900
telling the truth.
The guys, the guys a special

833
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:24,000
individual if he's full of shit.
He's a special individual, and

834
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,300
another another Spectrum, you
know, he's an asshole like that.

835
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:33,500
It's so hard being in the
position where people come to

836
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:35,200
you and ask you.
What do you think about this

837
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,700
kind of stuff?
I don't know how many people you

838
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:42,200
get reaching out to you, but I
have I get quite a lot of

839
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,100
emails, man, or private messages
on Facebook from people who want

840
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:49,200
to share like their top-secret
experiences is or whatever.

841
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,500
Right.
It happens that got quite a bit,

842
00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:56,000
it's just Just it's tough to be
able to answer their questions.

843
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,600
And Steven Greer is one of the
ones that's extremely tough,

844
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:03,700
because he's not an idiot at
all.

845
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,200
The guys really fucking smart.
Yeah.

846
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,500
And the guy knows how to talk
and he knows how to think he's

847
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:14,100
intelligent and that's the thing
that kind of, you know, it's

848
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:17,600
kind of a, it's kind of a weird
one because it's also the same

849
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,300
for the opposite side of the
spectrum for me to wear, if

850
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:23,600
somebody wasn't so intelligent
and Able to speak as well and

851
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:24,900
they're coming up with all this
stuff.

852
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,600
You know, you look for these
little cues of, of ignorance,

853
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:32,800
great.
And you can't find that in

854
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:38,100
Steve, you just can't but
because he's so smart because

855
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:42,300
he's so well at speaking, No
man.

856
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:45,600
I mean you look at someone like
that and you got to think that

857
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,100
this to could probably come up
with a Hollywood script Ralph

858
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,500
Ralph that yeah.
You know we really like hey man

859
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:55,100
give me a script on Atlantis
right now boom.

860
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,400
And I bet you you can throw up
some bullshit.

861
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,000
That's where I kind of halt with
him and I just don't know how to

862
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,600
answer the question when it
comes to a.

863
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:06,500
What do you think about Steven
Greer?

864
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,300
It's a loaded question because
dudes out there, he's out there,

865
00:52:09,300 --> 00:52:12,500
he's in the public eye.
And he's making a ton of fucking

866
00:52:12,500 --> 00:52:13,600
money from.
Yep.

867
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,400
And he's really smart and you
would think that somebody that

868
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,500
makes that kind of money
because, you know, let's be

869
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:25,200
honest, the guy's not a
doctoring easy ufologists.

870
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,200
Yeah, there's something to say
for the amount of money that

871
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,200
this guy can be making.
I don't know what it costs to

872
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,100
get him on your show.
Right.

873
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:39,300
I'm sure it's probably not
cheap, probably not.

874
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:43,000
Yeah probably not but He also
strikes me as a guy that's going

875
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,400
to charge you per 10 minutes per
minute per hour.

876
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,100
You know, it's going to be
something Hefty and I don't

877
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:56,200
know, we've paid, we've paid for
some people and yeah, no it's

878
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:01,700
respectable pay, you know?
It's I'm always, I'm always, I

879
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:05,800
mean, I understand that, you
know, if you're in that position

880
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,600
and you can make money off of
it, do it, I mean I would not

881
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:13,300
gonna lie to you, I would, you
know, I'm sorry. but you mix

882
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:17,400
that with how intelligent he is,
I don't know, man.

883
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:19,300
He could be just scamming all
this.

884
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,700
You never know.
I used to feel that way about

885
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:30,000
Korbel, but now I'm just like
he's a very Very intelligent

886
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,100
filmmaker and is figured a
niche, but him putting himself

887
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:38,300
in that position.
Got him the access to the people

888
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:41,000
that he's getting, you know, if
he didn't, if he wasn't doing

889
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,300
anything on UFOs or Skinwalker
Ranch or any of that, he would

890
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:46,900
not be talking to the people
that he's talking to.

891
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:49,700
You would, you would just be an
artist, you know?

892
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:53,700
So I think he got himself
involved in that and that's a

893
00:53:53,707 --> 00:53:57,900
very smart Play because I'm sure
he's making good money off of

894
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:01,000
it.
The stuff that he does when he's

895
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,800
a huge name now.
Yeah, well I mean, I guess it's

896
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:07,800
I guess we you have to.
It's kind of like the same thing

897
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,500
when you're when you're in a
band that you really like just

898
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:14,700
blows up and starts, you know,
they go from stages, small

899
00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:18,500
stages, two Arenas, and you're
like, are they sold out?

900
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:23,000
I mean, I'm joking.
Yeah, they're blowing the fuck

901
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,700
up, dude.
Oh, there's bands that.

902
00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:28,500
Just explode and people.
People people are like, oh, they

903
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:30,300
did this or they do that to make
money.

904
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,200
I mean, you asked the question a
minute ago, wouldn't you?

905
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,800
You know, if you're doing
Something like that.

906
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:41,400
And I think these guys are very
similar to, they get very

907
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:46,200
similar treatment and it's very
similar to where you hit

908
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,700
something and now you're
popular.

909
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:55,100
And I think it's good to have
these guys out there talking in

910
00:54:55,100 --> 00:54:57,200
the mainstream.
You're seeing on main stream

911
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:02,200
streaming services and there's
some out their stuff on some of

912
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,100
these like, Amazon Prime, has
some wild Petey.

913
00:55:05,300 --> 00:55:08,100
Documentaries.
And like, there's like a whole

914
00:55:08,100 --> 00:55:11,000
series.
If you can get through it, the

915
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,200
way it's produced, it's it's
tough to get through, but if you

916
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:20,100
can get through a five part of
e, t--'s Among Us, it's it's a

917
00:55:20,107 --> 00:55:22,900
crazy documentary.
If it's all real, then there's

918
00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:26,200
some stuff that's like, it's a
little bit more theatrical.

919
00:55:26,700 --> 00:55:31,100
But, you know, I guess if they
are telling the truth, all these

920
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:34,200
people more power to them, to be
able to make money.

921
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:39,400
Off of something like this.
Because I mean, like you said if

922
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,000
I could make money off of
researching UFOs, I would

923
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:47,600
totally do that.
Oh, totally 100. 100 I do

924
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,400
exactly what the main seal.
All right, let's move on, we're

925
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,600
over an hour already so let's
will will get this last one out

926
00:55:55,607 --> 00:55:58,300
because I know we're going to
talk about this for for decent

927
00:55:58,300 --> 00:56:01,300
amount.
Let's talk about the Vegas

928
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:06,300
aliens.
So an incredible 911 call heard

929
00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:08,200
around the world.
Came from Las Vegas.

930
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:13,200
Nevada on April 30th of 2023
literally minutes before

931
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:18,000
midnight quote.
There's like an 8-foot person

932
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,400
beside it.
And another one is inside it and

933
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:24,000
it has big eyes and it's looking
at us and it's still there.

934
00:56:24,900 --> 00:56:28,400
This line refers to a suppose
UFO landing in a residential

935
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,400
yard backyard and multiple tall
aliens walking.

936
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:36,200
In out within the line of sight
of the caller quote, I swear to

937
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,600
God, this is not a joke, this is
actually where terrified they

938
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,000
look like aliens and they're not
human hundred percent, they're

939
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,800
not human the event gets even
stranger and more believable as

940
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,400
a police officer calls.
In to dispatch claiming to have

941
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,700
a recording of a UFO on his
body.

942
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:57,300
Camera in this guy shortly.
Before, the call was placed the

943
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:00,400
officers that responds to the
call were very willing to arrive

944
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,200
investigate due to the call.
The dispatch and curiosity

945
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,500
running wild.
What is important to know is

946
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:12,100
that it's not just the Los Vegas
Metro Police that are taking

947
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:15,600
this seriously, but there's a
few three-letter agencies that

948
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,200
are also appearing in to the
event.

949
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:22,300
So, not a very big right up
there, Dave?

950
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,300
But I mean, I would be pretty
damn surprised.

951
00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:30,700
If any of the listeners of the
infinite Rabbit Hole haven't

952
00:57:30,700 --> 00:57:33,900
heard of this fucking story.
Now if you haven't, you're

953
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:38,600
trapped in the hole.
Yeah it's a this is everywhere

954
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,000
right now, this is huge.
This is we probably could have

955
00:57:42,008 --> 00:57:44,500
done this whole episode just on
this, be honest with you.

956
00:57:44,700 --> 00:57:49,900
Yeah, there's lots of visual
aspects to this this account,

957
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:55,400
multiple facets, the between Las
Vegas Police, and the home

958
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,900
owners and the people that were,
you know, people that were

959
00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:04,700
recording and actually made the
call this Is one of the events

960
00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:08,400
that podcasters or whatever.
The fucking future of this whole

961
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,300
thing is and 30 years.
They're going to be reading

962
00:58:11,300 --> 00:58:15,600
books on this event, presenting
it like we do here on the

963
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,900
infinite Rat Hole.
This is one of those events,

964
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,800
okay, it happened literally just
three weeks ago.

965
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,900
We had one of these events.
Like, I mean, shit, the

966
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:32,300
Kecksburg UFO incident, I would
say Roswell, but it wasn't.

967
00:58:32,700 --> 00:58:35,400
The, some some people are saying
that this thing crashed in this

968
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,400
guy's yard, some people say is
landed.

969
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:43,800
The guy who owned the call say,
said that landed the, the

970
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:45,700
officer said he saw a streak
through the sky.

971
00:58:45,700 --> 00:58:47,000
Did you see the body cam
footage?

972
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,300
By the way?
Yeah.

973
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:53,300
And the street, it looks a lot
slower than a normal meteor.

974
00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:57,000
It's definitely takes a lot
longer to, you know, it could

975
00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,600
have just been at a weird angle,
it was burning green.

976
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,300
So I think that's indicative of
nickel.

977
00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:06,700
So yeah, it was made of nickel.
It was burning pretty hot, but

978
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:08,900
there was something tailing it.
That was following the

979
00:59:08,900 --> 00:59:12,200
trajectory in the body cam.
If you slow it down, like it

980
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,100
almost looks like an orb, you
know Shale and it's very, it's

981
00:59:17,100 --> 00:59:19,500
very strange.
And yeah, the body cam footage.

982
00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:24,400
I mean, not that.
There was definitely, at least a

983
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:26,300
meteor a meteor.
Right.

984
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:30,100
You know.
So that's, that's proven, I

985
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:32,500
think we can, we can say, do you
think that or could have been

986
00:59:32,700 --> 00:59:36,100
Artifact of the lens.
A lot of people have been

987
00:59:36,100 --> 00:59:38,600
looking into that.
I think, I mean, I didn't look

988
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,400
into it.
Personally, it could be, but

989
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:45,700
also a lot of people have done
like duotone and - and no

990
00:59:45,707 --> 00:59:48,700
infrared there.
And another thing that's really

991
00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:51,000
interesting about the body cam
footage people have, ran it

992
00:59:51,008 --> 00:59:53,700
through their computers and have
done infrared on it.

993
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,700
And it doesn't show up on
infrared, which would mean it's

994
00:59:58,700 --> 01:00:02,100
not burning hot.
Huh.

995
01:00:02,700 --> 01:00:03,800
In case?
Yeah.

996
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,900
That is very interesting.
Hmm, very cool.

997
01:00:07,100 --> 01:00:09,400
Yeah, I was ready for that.
I like the nickel thing that you

998
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,400
just kind of kind of
interesting.

999
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,300
Remember War of the Worlds when
he touches it.

1000
01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:15,100
It's ice cold.
Yeah.

1001
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,500
So this little event although it
wasn't the last thing that

1002
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:25,400
happened, right?
It was the last thing we're

1003
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,700
talking about and it's a nice
way to bundle up all this

1004
01:00:28,700 --> 01:00:31,100
information on UFOs.
Aliens.

1005
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:37,600
And what an event?
Have you heard this guy come out

1006
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,100
and talk about yet?
Because the guy who made the

1007
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:42,800
recording, right?
The guy who called and I want

1008
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,200
him and he took the Tick-Tock
almost immediately.

1009
01:00:45,500 --> 01:00:49,000
Yeah, and started.
He started his own channel.

1010
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:52,600
I can remember what the fuck.
It's called though, and he's

1011
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,900
talking about it, he's talking
about it, he's talking about how

1012
01:00:56,700 --> 01:01:01,100
apparently the police officers
when they got to the Raus MIT.

1013
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:05,000
They went into the backyard and
they were recording and

1014
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:09,100
something was there.
And if you, if you Cruise along

1015
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:15,500
like the the Facebook page,
forums credit, you find this one

1016
01:01:15,500 --> 01:01:19,300
particular image that everyone
is claiming comes from a police

1017
01:01:19,300 --> 01:01:22,700
officer that night or from the,
the caller themselves.

1018
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:26,500
So I can't reach it, everyone's
claims, it's from some other

1019
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:29,300
source or whatnot, you know,
image I'm talking about where

1020
01:01:29,300 --> 01:01:32,000
it's they're shown.
Like the truck and right over

1021
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,400
the bed of the truck, you can
sort of make out.

1022
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:35,500
Yeah.
Yeah.

1023
01:01:35,500 --> 01:01:37,600
There's a couple really, really
interesting.

1024
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,300
Screenshots from both videos
from the police side.

1025
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:46,800
And the people who lived in the
house, the cops.

1026
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,800
I mean, the cops are intrigued.
They were also freaked out when

1027
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:51,200
they got there.
You can tell.

1028
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,600
Because I think one of the cops
is, I think on the body cam, I

1029
01:01:54,607 --> 01:01:56,800
think he's quoted as saying,
like, I'm not going to be S.

1030
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,700
You guys, one of my partner
said, that they saw something

1031
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:01,500
fall out of the sky to.
So that's why I'm kind of

1032
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:04,200
curious and he asked, did you
see anything land in your

1033
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,400
backyard?
I think.

1034
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:12,900
The Landing somebody already
debunked at the the circle

1035
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:16,700
circular area of the gravel or
sand at they allegedly had.

1036
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:20,700
Somebody went back in Google
Earth and saw it in March or

1037
01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:28,700
January so that Landing aspect
could be not too factual.

1038
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,200
Might have been something that
got muddied up in the game of

1039
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:36,400
telephone with them.
But there was, there are.

1040
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,300
There were other people in the
Vegas metro area that heard

1041
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:43,400
booms, you know, so it could
have been something.

1042
01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:48,100
I mean, let's face it, if they
have the technology they can

1043
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:50,700
ride and you know, I mean look
at look at Heaven's Gate.

1044
01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:54,800
They thought they believe that
there is a UFO in the tale of a

1045
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,600
hike song Pro Hale-Bopp.
Yeah, get some decades and run

1046
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:02,900
out in this person's backyard.
There's, there's so much

1047
01:03:03,100 --> 01:03:07,600
research being done and scrutiny
and pull picking apart the video

1048
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:08,500
footage.
Inch.

1049
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:14,700
I've watched a ton of it and
every single time I've watched

1050
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:18,500
at least the cell phone footage
from whoever's filming the

1051
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:22,100
presumably I guess the father
and the son that called it in

1052
01:03:22,100 --> 01:03:27,100
and everything, I don't see eye,
you see some movement but you

1053
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:30,200
don't see anything and that just
makes me believe.

1054
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:34,900
Well I mean if it's a highly
Advanced creature then they can

1055
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:38,100
definitely.
Why would they why wouldn't They

1056
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:41,300
cloak, you know, like or at
least you can see like a

1057
01:03:41,300 --> 01:03:44,800
predator, you can see like, you
know, different distortions and

1058
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:48,700
what you're looking at.
So this one's everybody's saying

1059
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:51,700
so many people are just like
hoax hoax hoax hoax.

1060
01:03:53,100 --> 01:03:56,700
I think that there's interesting
stuff there's the water has been

1061
01:03:56,700 --> 01:04:00,000
muddied because people were
saying oh the cops put cameras

1062
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,300
there and the somebody did you
know.

1063
01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:05,400
Yeah, some new stations are
saying beforehand, which made it

1064
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,400
look like a conspiracy right off
the cliff and then You had to

1065
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,200
really read, they put temporary
after the fact so they can see

1066
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,500
if something happened.
So it's and then there's claims

1067
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:19,400
the family disappeared and the
kids still posted on tick-tocks.

1068
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,900
So it's they didn't disappear
even said no my family didn't

1069
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:26,200
get disappeared, you know, like
we're still here, we just want

1070
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,000
and but he did say something
very strange, we just want to

1071
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:30,500
forget about it, we want it to
go away.

1072
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:33,500
So that brings up the three
letter.

1073
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,400
Yes, he's of probably harassing
the shit out of this family

1074
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,300
there.
It has been a lot of reports of

1075
01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:42,400
them in the area to in that
particular area.

1076
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,400
There are neighbors that are
coming forward and saying that

1077
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,600
yeah I do we're sorry, get some
weird black cars coming through

1078
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,200
and weird hours of the night
knocking on that door and and

1079
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,900
you know anyways.
But yeah.

1080
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:57,500
So it did they did end up
putting the camera up in the

1081
01:04:57,500 --> 01:05:02,000
backyard the video that I saw.
Yeah you do see some movement

1082
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:06,500
and you can sort of see some I
sign I shine almost yeah it

1083
01:05:06,500 --> 01:05:10,800
looks like it could It would be
indicative of a gray or a tall

1084
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:14,100
gray, because he did say what 8
to 10 feet they were saved and

1085
01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:17,100
the but that's not.
I mean even the tall Gray's

1086
01:05:17,100 --> 01:05:20,000
aren't that tall.
No right there.

1087
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:25,500
They're human-sized their 56 up
to possibly seven feet tall

1088
01:05:25,900 --> 01:05:28,800
mostly 5 to 6 in the little ones
are three to four feet tall,

1089
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,300
man.
I don't know.

1090
01:05:30,700 --> 01:05:36,100
The thing is, is like yeah, I
think in one of the, in the

1091
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:39,500
video I saw I saw like a bull
Think think the thing blinked,

1092
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:43,100
yeah, which was super weird and
you kind of look at it and like,

1093
01:05:43,100 --> 01:05:46,000
um, and that could be just like
a fucking raccoon on top of the,

1094
01:05:46,700 --> 01:05:49,300
the truck bed there.
But at the same time, you can

1095
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:53,200
sort of see the shape of the,
whatever it is.

1096
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,900
Head is definitely not standing
eight to nine feet or eight to

1097
01:05:56,900 --> 01:06:02,400
ten feet tall at the moment.
Unless it's hunch down, but yet

1098
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:07,000
again, is this one of those
things were all falling victim

1099
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:12,500
to peridot Leah, you know, and
you look at it and it's blurry

1100
01:06:12,700 --> 01:06:15,400
just like everything else in the
world that we deal with.

1101
01:06:15,500 --> 01:06:23,500
And you sort of see the outline
of a grey aliens face, which

1102
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:31,300
Short of mimics the human face
and it's a know it's really

1103
01:06:31,300 --> 01:06:33,700
tough.
You know what I really, really

1104
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:36,800
do my best to try not to be a
victim of pareidolia.

1105
01:06:39,100 --> 01:06:41,300
It's but it's tough with that
one man.

1106
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:43,500
I don't know.
I don't know it.

1107
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:50,500
I want to believe it.
Like I want to like really,

1108
01:06:50,500 --> 01:06:56,200
really bad but I can't sit here
and say 100% that I do.

1109
01:06:57,500 --> 01:07:01,300
I want this to be real.
I do, I think that this is, this

1110
01:07:01,300 --> 01:07:04,600
is one of this could be our
generational alien story.

1111
01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,500
This could be, you know, if
anything really comes out from

1112
01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:12,900
it, hopefully, hopefully, this
isn't what we get from our

1113
01:07:12,900 --> 01:07:18,000
generation when it comes to
like, an alien contact story.

1114
01:07:18,100 --> 01:07:20,900
Hopefully there's something
better that comes along, but I

1115
01:07:20,908 --> 01:07:23,600
mean, it is what it is and it's
nice taste to.

1116
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:27,400
I like it.
Hmm.

1117
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:34,200
Alright, so this is what
happened, I know, this is kind

1118
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:38,900
of awkward, but we're coming
back in from the future.

1119
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:44,400
Today is tomorrow, we actually
had some technical difficulties

1120
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,900
after that last part there and
we called it quits.

1121
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:51,700
And then we, well, actually,
I'll take the back.

1122
01:07:52,900 --> 01:07:59,900
We, we finished out the episode.
And Zen Caster sucks internet

1123
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:03,200
sucks.
Technology sucks and we lost the

1124
01:08:03,207 --> 01:08:06,700
whole back end of that, episode
lucky for everyone listening, it

1125
01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:09,800
was roughly, I'd say five
minutes, not much at all.

1126
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:15,900
But I got Dave back with me
today to say about everybody.

1127
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:20,200
Unfortunately, we don't know
everything that we missed, so we

1128
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,000
can't reiterate it.
I know that the last Thing, I

1129
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:28,200
believe we left off on was
talking about the aliens.

1130
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,300
And then I believe Dave had just
said something along the lines

1131
01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:38,700
of the guy posted on Tick-Tock
saying that he his family did

1132
01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:42,000
not get disappeared.
I think that's where we left off

1133
01:08:42,008 --> 01:08:43,800
and that's pretty far into the
conversation.

1134
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:47,300
Yeah that was pretty much at the
end of what we were talking

1135
01:08:47,300 --> 01:08:48,899
about.
I think that the only thing we

1136
01:08:48,899 --> 01:08:53,700
missed really was us just kind
of like our own thoughts on it.

1137
01:08:55,899 --> 01:09:02,899
From what I remember from the
from the past is that I am still

1138
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:09,800
on the fence with this.
With this case, it's there are

1139
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,899
possible.
All images and still frames that

1140
01:09:12,899 --> 01:09:16,000
look like bodies.
One thing I wanted to say that,

1141
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,000
I don't think I got to say
because the internet provider

1142
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,700
decided to tell us we were not
allowed to.

1143
01:09:23,300 --> 01:09:25,700
We got Shadow band in live real
time.

1144
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:32,500
What is maybe, maybe was there
was one video that circulated

1145
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:39,399
where there was It almost looks
like eyes looking through the

1146
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:44,800
fence of this property right in
front of these people where they

1147
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:46,100
were standing.
Yeah.

1148
01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:50,000
And that would imply that there
is a much smaller creature than

1149
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:54,000
8 to 10 feet as well, and if
it's, and it was very strange.

1150
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,700
That was the, that was honestly,
the most compelling evidence

1151
01:09:56,700 --> 01:10:00,400
that there could have been
something there for me, was the

1152
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,000
movement behind the fence, but,
who knows?

1153
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,700
I mean, you're in the desert.
I don't know.

1154
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,500
Polly.
We're in Las Vegas, these people

1155
01:10:07,500 --> 01:10:12,700
lived I mean I live in a major
city and I get coyotes and fox

1156
01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:16,700
and all that stuff going past.
My house could have been could

1157
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:18,700
have just been a normal normal
Critter.

1158
01:10:19,900 --> 01:10:21,300
I believe the truck was right
there too.

1159
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:23,500
So I mean it could have been
just a like you said a critter

1160
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:28,700
jump up on the truck?
I don't know where I left off,

1161
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:31,500
but if I reiterate this, I
apologize everybody.

1162
01:10:32,100 --> 01:10:36,400
I want to believe it.
That's the, the simple thing is,

1163
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,600
I want to believe this but I'm
weary right?

1164
01:10:41,700 --> 01:10:45,000
I feel like there's a lot of
really cool things that happen

1165
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:50,100
when you look at the the footage
from the top and then you look

1166
01:10:50,100 --> 01:10:52,300
at the footage of these people
freaking out.

1167
01:10:52,300 --> 01:10:54,600
Like it isn't they're
legitimately scared people.

1168
01:10:54,600 --> 01:11:00,300
Like these guys were not having
a really good night and when you

1169
01:11:00,308 --> 01:11:04,200
listen to the 911 call There's
fear there.

1170
01:11:04,900 --> 01:11:08,900
It's this, this guy's not, I
don't these bullshit.

1171
01:11:10,900 --> 01:11:14,800
I can't can't tell you 100% that
he was sober, don't know that.

1172
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:21,000
But all in all I want to want to
believe it.

1173
01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:27,700
I want to believe this because
this could potentially be Our

1174
01:11:27,700 --> 01:11:30,500
arrows.
Big UFO story.

1175
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,300
Our big alien sorting this.
This could be it.

1176
01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:41,200
You know, you look back in the
history on all the UFO and alien

1177
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:47,900
abduction stories.
There's honestly not too much

1178
01:11:47,900 --> 01:11:50,100
that happens in the majority of
them.

1179
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,200
And this is a really good one,
that's really close to home.

1180
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:58,800
And I think that's, that's
what's so unique and really cool

1181
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:03,400
about this one is that this one
is right here at home guard,

1182
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,900
right?
This is American soil.

1183
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:13,400
The guy witnessed two alien
beings near aircraft on his

1184
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,900
property.
And freaked out and at the same

1185
01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:21,300
time police officers witnessed
something streaking through the

1186
01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:23,200
sky.
Supposedly Crash Landing.

1187
01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:26,900
I mean, it just has it has
everything.

1188
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:32,300
It has everything you need in
order for this to become a thing

1189
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:35,500
of lower in the future.
It's got the alphabet soup boys.

1190
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,400
Showing up the neighbors
complain.

1191
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,300
That there's these black
Vehicles, driving by, and knock

1192
01:12:41,300 --> 01:12:44,800
on the door all the time.
I don't know, man.

1193
01:12:45,700 --> 01:12:47,400
I think it's actually like a lot
of you.

1194
01:12:48,900 --> 01:12:51,700
It's definitely got a romantic
quality to what we also have to

1195
01:12:51,700 --> 01:12:55,700
remember to Las Vegas is not
very far away from Area, 51.

1196
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,400
So true, there is true.
There's there could be a

1197
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:04,000
plethora of things.
I'm not saying something got out

1198
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,200
but, you know, it's there could
be a plethora of things and

1199
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:11,200
reasons why Vegas itself
personally for me.

1200
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:13,300
Every time I go there, I feel
sick.

1201
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:16,100
I don't know if it's because of
the energy, if it's a negative

1202
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:20,000
energy, And there's just lots
of.

1203
01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:25,300
Maybe it's the lights, maybe the
but but more recently to, I

1204
01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:27,900
believe it was was early April
or late March.

1205
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:31,100
There was a triangular UFO
sighting over one of the casinos

1206
01:13:31,100 --> 01:13:34,000
opens, well in Vegas.
So there's just some, some

1207
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,800
activity in Vegas.
But I'd like to Second what you

1208
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,200
said about this.
I forget the kid's name, I

1209
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,200
believe it starts with an A, I
feel like a dick not remembering

1210
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,500
it, but definitely some fear.
And if there wasn't any, if

1211
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:50,700
there wasn't here, then this kid
is a wonderful actor and they

1212
01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:55,600
Are very good at faking things
that are multifaceted from Las

1213
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,200
Vegas.
Las Vegas Metro Police

1214
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,900
Department to their own personal
stuff.

1215
01:13:59,900 --> 01:14:05,000
So this is like you said, yeah,
this could this could be like

1216
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,100
our Flatwoods Monster, you know
our yes our big case that we

1217
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:15,600
Flatwoods Monster Dover Demon.
I mean this has all the markings

1218
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,400
of that stuff.
You mean Dover Demon was seen by

1219
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,200
think two or three different
groups of people.

1220
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:24,500
Flatwoods Monster.
I roughly the same, right?

1221
01:14:24,500 --> 01:14:29,900
Maybe even less.
Yeah, that's a good point.

1222
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:32,200
That is, that is a good
comparison.

1223
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,600
I like that.
You also have bodies claimed to

1224
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:38,500
be seen in Brazil, with was it?
James, Fox's, new documentary,

1225
01:14:40,700 --> 01:14:45,000
about the I forget the name of
the town in Brazil, but they had

1226
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,000
seen small bodies with eyes and
gills and slits.

1227
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,600
And oh, you know, it's a pretty
compelling story.

1228
01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:58,100
Check it out.
If you haven't, there's Do you

1229
01:14:58,108 --> 01:15:00,400
know the name of it?
Give me one second.

1230
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,800
I'll find it.
I really don't know what else to

1231
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:14,300
say here. yeah, so it was called
moment of contact. oh, Moment of

1232
01:15:14,300 --> 01:15:18,300
contact moment.
A contact that moment of contact

1233
01:15:18,300 --> 01:15:22,800
that is it was the 1996 crash
from Virginia.

1234
01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:25,600
Brazil, Virgina Brazil.
I just did an episode on it.

1235
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,100
Yep.
Yep.

1236
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,400
I was going to say that sounds
really familiar.

1237
01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:34,400
I watch that as part of my
research for the episode.

1238
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,200
Yeah, very good stuff.
It was a British British

1239
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,600
documentary, right?
I believe so I haven't watched

1240
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,800
it yet.
I'd like, Two, very good stuff.

1241
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:48,000
Very good stuff.
Highly recommended it.

1242
01:15:48,900 --> 01:15:51,700
I highly recommend it.
Sorry, can't speak today.

1243
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,900
Highly recommend it to anybody
that thought that the Virgina

1244
01:15:55,900 --> 01:15:58,600
Brazil episode that I did was
interesting.

1245
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,000
I mean, Nobody's going to break
it down.

1246
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,100
Better than that documentary.
Honestly, they did a really good

1247
01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:06,700
job.
That's it.

1248
01:16:06,700 --> 01:16:10,800
Everybody that's all we got.
Dave, I gotta get going, man.

1249
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,100
I gotta pack and go on vacation
tomorrow lucky.

1250
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,800
Yeah, I got to work first.
But yeah, so Dave, you know,

1251
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,600
before we head out, go ahead and
do the thing where you tell

1252
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,400
people about your stuff.
Go for it.

1253
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,800
I'll do the thing.
For those of you who have not

1254
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:32,200
heard my voice before I am
Declassified.

1255
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:35,600
Dave I am 1/3 of the hush-hush
society conspiracy.

1256
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:40,300
Our I have two other cohorts
slick Von Sanders and mystery

1257
01:16:40,300 --> 01:16:45,800
Mike, we cover very similar
topics to the infant Rabbit Hole

1258
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:51,000
conspiracies, Cryptids fringe,
science, True Crime, anything

1259
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:54,600
that's a weird.
And if you haven't Open to us.

1260
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:57,800
Check us out.
You can find everything from our

1261
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:02,200
social media links to our video
portions merchandise blogs, all

1262
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:05,800
the episodes at www.hud.gov
Society.com.

1263
01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:11,900
Nice dude.
Well Dave, I like to extend one

1264
01:17:11,900 --> 01:17:14,400
more things to you man.
You're a trooper, dude.

1265
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,100
You come on the show all the
time for me, I really do

1266
01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:18,700
appreciate that.
Yeah, thanks for having me on.

1267
01:17:18,700 --> 01:17:23,700
I'm in the past, the present the
future and always make it work.

1268
01:17:24,500 --> 01:17:26,300
Well, we'll see how big you get
we met.

1269
01:17:26,300 --> 01:17:29,200
We may get two small over here
in the infinite rabbit, hole for

1270
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,600
you.
But all right.

1271
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:34,600
Yeah, that's that's it
everybody.

1272
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,500
Sorry for the awkward ending but
it is what it is.

1273
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,800
You get what you get and
hopefully we put together

1274
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,100
something for you.
Technology sucks.

1275
01:17:44,300 --> 01:17:47,100
Yeah, technology does suck.
Does absolutely suck.

1276
01:17:47,900 --> 01:17:49,400
Let's see.
What did I how do they end it?

1277
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:52,800
Oh, that's right.
So for anybody listening in

1278
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:57,000
today, stay tuned.
I just made the decision today

1279
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:03,100
to change the format one more
time, slightly more Of release

1280
01:18:03,100 --> 01:18:04,700
schedules.
So we're going to start dropping

1281
01:18:04,700 --> 01:18:07,300
episodes every Friday.
Again, I've got enough built up.

1282
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,800
I was just looking at it today
and I was like, why am I doing

1283
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,800
this?
So sporadically, just drop them

1284
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:16,700
on Fridays for everybody, like
we used to and enjoy.

1285
01:18:16,900 --> 01:18:22,000
So, there's that everybody.
Hopefully, you know, you guys

1286
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,200
appreciate that and get to enjoy
it next week, we'll be diving

1287
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:30,300
into the world of the whoa,
Bigfoot, going into Bigfoot,

1288
01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:34,700
mind speak, and the world of
Push hard who's been on the show

1289
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:36,500
twice, already back-to-back
episodes.

1290
01:18:36,500 --> 01:18:42,700
Back in January 2021.
I only know that because I had

1291
01:18:42,700 --> 01:18:46,400
manipulated the schedule to
where this episode was releasing

1292
01:18:46,400 --> 01:18:49,100
on my birthday.
It's a Bigfoot episode of had

1293
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:53,600
had to put it on my birthday.
So Carter bull shark comes back

1294
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,400
for back another back-to-back
set.

1295
01:18:55,900 --> 01:19:01,400
And then after that, after that,
after that, after that, we will

1296
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:06,500
do the next documentary series,
which I announced at the end of

1297
01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:11,600
the last one, which was, which
was the Philadelphia Experiment.

1298
01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:17,700
Yep, aquatic ape Theory,
everybody enjoy it.

1299
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:25,800
Yeah, sea monkey, it wasn't
exactly what I thought it was.

1300
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,600
I went into this, a little
ignorant, not gonna lie to you

1301
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:34,900
didn't really, I thought this
was more of a proof of mermaids.

1302
01:19:35,100 --> 01:19:39,500
It wasn't, this is a entire
rewrite, the history of

1303
01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:44,200
humankind and a lot of it
really, really makes It's it

1304
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,900
really does.
It's kind of stupid.

1305
01:19:45,900 --> 01:19:49,000
How obvious some of this stuff
is.

1306
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:52,500
I can't say that.
I'm 100% a Believer but it makes

1307
01:19:52,500 --> 01:19:54,700
a very compelling case and and
you guys are going to enjoy

1308
01:19:54,700 --> 01:19:56,100
that.
But that's going to be from this

1309
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:57,900
point from when you're listening
to it.

1310
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:03,000
It's going to be three Fridays
so it's already done.

1311
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,700
Sorry record is Hardy, edited
it, everything else.

1312
01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:09,400
But I got to get this episode
out because this one's

1313
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:13,200
time-sensitive and then card did
me a huge favor by coming on and

1314
01:20:13,500 --> 01:20:14,800
Talking about some really cool
stuff.

1315
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:18,600
So, I want to do him a solid and
get his episodes out there as

1316
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,400
quick as I can.
And that's it.

1317
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,500
Everybody Dave.
Thanks man.

1318
01:20:24,700 --> 01:20:25,800
Appreciate it.
Thanks for having me.

1319
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,200
All right, well, that's been
another episode of the infinite

1320
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,100
Rabbit Hole podcast.
We'll see you next time.

1321
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:34,900
Bye.
You got to do it.

1322
01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:38,000
You have to you later, guys.
There it is.

1323
01:20:42,700 --> 01:20:45,500
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1324
01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:47,900
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1325
01:20:47,900 --> 01:20:50,700
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1326
01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:54,100
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1327
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,500
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01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,600
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1330
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01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:16,200
So, first head on over to Anchor
dot, f m 4 / infant rabbit hole,

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and click on the Subscribe
button where for $5 a month,

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you'll get access to all our old
episodes, that will never see

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the free Spotlight ever again.
It's horrible stuff.

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If you're into that kind of
thing, go check them.

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Second head on over to infinite
rabbit hole.com, and click on

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the irh merch, shop Tab and grab
yourself, a sweet t-shirt

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sticker or whatever else.
You see that you were mine own,

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until next time, travelers, I'm
Jeremy.

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And I'll see you at the next
fork in the path of the infinite

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rabbit hole.