138. IRH News: UFOs, Disclosure, and Aliens in Vegas w/ Declassified Dave

0:01 Okay, what's going on over there? Okay, lady me. My dad. And my brother. We were looking at a truck in our backyard and we have a big lat. I'm sorry, right? Correct. Okay. We are working. And we do see in a corner, I saw something fall down from the sky and it was with like, and when I hit down, it was like a big impact and we sell them for like energy and then, and then, and then we hear like a lot of food stamps near us. And then we have a big, a big equipment and we see that there's a like, a, a, a full person beside it. And another one's inside, and it has big eyes and look at us and it's still there. Okay. Where is this on your property? In my backyard? I swear to God. This is not a joke, this is actually correct. And they're very large knife.

1:37 Welcome back to the infinite. Rabbit-hole podcast, I'm your host Jeremy and today we're going to dive into what has been rocking the world. That's right, UFOs. Aliens disclosure all of it today. With my special guest from The hush-hush Society conspiracy our podcast Declassified. Dave. Welcome back, dude. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm excited to come back on a whole new whole new whole. Yeah, that's a yeah, yeah man. So it's been different, you know, but it was funny. I don't know. Actually I can't really say right now, his Secrets. Oh no, I can't today I can't, I can't, I can't well because we're recording today's the 20th, right? So on Friday, I'm releasing episode where Jake actually comes back, not fully, but just like, just to kind of guests for a little bit and then you actually guest on two more episodes kind of guy got so much content right. Now, when we were like talking about, I was like, yeah, we should we should get this going because I'm in a good place right now.

2:42 Actually going to go. I was I was releasing an episode, every two weeks or every month. Then I went down to planning to do every two weeks, then the 10 days, just because I had a lot, and now I'm I just changed all my postdates to one week. So awesome. And actually, squeezing this one in next week, next Friday. Just because of the time sensitive subject, you know? Because I put you at the end of it will be passed. That July information. Dump that supposed to happen. Yeah. Yeah this stuff's coming a mile a minute. Yeah man. So what's new with you man? You got the new show up, talk a little bit about fattening. Uh yeah has nothing to do with the other podcast. It was just something more of a passion project that I decided I was going to do.

3:33 I wasn't really working other than working on hush-hush society. So I was like, I gotta get more creative and about you know, maybe Ten months ago, me and old, buddy. We're talking things didn't line up for six to seven months, and then we just kind of Hit the, you know, hit the gas pedal and said, let's just, let's just do this. It's all about music him and I are both bass players, we both played in the Connecticut metalcore. You know, hardcore scene in the early to mid-2000s for about a decade and had our own separate endeavors. With different bands and we're just talking about stuff on the road, the stage backstage, weird, weird stuff, and then a ton of interviews with some people and the list is growing and there's a lot of content to be released and we're right now. I think we're going to stay Weekly right on, dude. Pretty Connecticut seen.

4:37 You've sold out Toad's, Place. How many times be honest? Don't know if I sold out to his place but I've played totes Place, happy. Yeah, dude, I went to a mushroom head concert. Oh yeah. What year was that? I noted. Come on. No. Do I have no idea? I mean, shit. I was probably Now, I can't see where it's I had to be like a sophomore in high school. So must've been like 2002-2003 ish, right? In that, in that time frame problem. I live in there, I might have been there my friends really big into that band. I remember seeing Mushroomhead, I don't remember if it was the Webster Theater or if it was the or toads place or the oak Taylor, one of the other ones but it was definitely in CT.

5:23 I used to go to those places because I was easy to sneak into. But the reason why I asked man is because Does the listeners here on the infinite rabbit hole will be familiar with a voice on one of your episodes right? You had. Westlaw yeah, he was a he was a great episode. He got to talk about some of his fun Endeavors and we talked about a very famous photo about him is a jet engine playing a guitar which is, which is pretty cool, and it's cool to connect, you know, people that I met doing everything conspiracy related with, with my two Brethren from hush-hush. And actually using some of those. Some of those folks to be a part of a different project in this, you know, similar creative Endeavors that we all have and West is a, what's the cool dude?

6:11 And there's some other people that have been on this show that are going to be coming on our show at some point. So just it's kind of an endless topic music and we really wanted to get centered with people. That are involved currently because of all the crazy times and what happened, you know, the course of a couple years with what it must have been like to be a touring musician and that's your livelihood. So there's a lot of that and just endless, you know, you can have an episode on guitar. Pedals, you know what you did? Yeah. Well, that's just one of one of many ideas, so there's a no shortage of ideas.

6:57 And that show is Pure fun, it's super easy. Since I've been a little bit weathered and experienced of doing podcasting for almost three years now with hush-hush, but that show is lots of fun. I'll cherish this ID is Trucking along. We are having a great time and have had some. I think the last 20 episodes have been extremely solid. We've been enjoying them. We've been enjoying the feedback and our season nine coming up is going to geez, he's laughing already huh? Yeah, that's not soon. Yeah.

7:38 Beating a dead horse because I know a lot of the listeners here, they don't know story, right? We started the same time. Josh took off like a fucking rocket, not gonna lie. Little little on the gel side. That's ok. Still love you guys but it's extremely impressive. What you guys are doing? Extremely, I think it's fucking great. And, you know, I'm just supposed to thank you for taking the time out and come to come to hang out with a little people. Every once in a while, man, it's pretty awesome. No, it's not little people were colleagues. Everybody's, you know, we're all the same. He's taking care of his community service today, everybody? Yeah, you know I mean, it doesn't it did the way we have. No, we don't think anything that we're doing is very impressive. We're definitely proud of the effort that we put into the show and it realistically is Pure fun. We're not, we don't make money off the show, we just do it because we enjoy bringing this type of content to people. And it's a, it's opened a huge, a huge Network, and world for us to just meet people, and actually make like real friends out of it.

8:45 So it's been, it's been a cool process and we were truck and we got some Milestones coming up. We got three year anniversary and month and a half or so. It's so funny. You say this stuff man and it's like yep Minds right there too. Yep. Yeah we were like a week a week or so nine days or so away from each other from what we all started uploading on Spotify. So yeah, something something along those lines, man fucking nuts, dude. Now congratulations man. You guys are blowing it on the water, man. Very bad. You guys. Very very proud to get weirder so really I hope everybody enjoys it. Yeah, we're we've decided to I don't want to without talking to them disclose too much, but it does. It's a, we're going for topics that have been no pun intended, been hushed more recently, so we're going to woo.

9:36 Yeah. And, you know, you know, and some out their stuff, they know, we've expanded a little bit. You know, we're getting into True Crime and serial killers and more paranormal ghost stuff on top of it, on top of it. We haven't done a Cryptid episode in, A year. So we're trying to get back into that too, and not sure how to fit it into the show if we wanted to replace a conspiracy episode with a Cryptid episode. But it's all we're very, very busy cognitively on what we're doing and trying to keep the parts moving, and people really engage. But the next stuff is going to be very I guess more topics that are in the news from my perspective, from what I can see, ruffle some feathers, huh? Yeah.

10:26 Yeah, good world. Needs it, we're about it. Good stuff, dude, good stuff. All right, man. Let's, let's start giving these guys with the came here for you, ready? Yes, sir. All right, so I was kind of explaining to Dave little earlier that I have four topics. I want to talk about today and basically this this episode's coming out quick, not as quick as I really Have preferred it to come out just because the information that I'm going to be putting out today, kind of been out there for a little while better late than never. So first thing we're going to talk about is this NASA thing before. I spit it all out, you know what this is right? Yeah, yeah. Nats the NASA stuff, the least familiar with with all four topics, but I've been following it, you know, pretty not Loosely. But anytime I see something.

11:18 I'm watching it. All right. So Jump Right In right on the last day of April. The North American space agency, AKA NASA held an hour-long televised briefing, on the existence of UFOs or what they are now calling you a PS, the panel includes 16, scientists and a few other selected experts for the public hearing that acted as an appetizer to this quote-unquote final report that we should be getting in Late July. So what came of this big showing of brains that science while we did learn that according to them NASA receives between 50 and 100 new reports monthly in which they believe somewhere between two to five percent. Maybe unidentifiable they're compiling, a massive amount of data to sift through and there have been a hundred and forty. Four reports from military Pilots as of 2021 sorry we couldn't get a more recent number. That's the number that they put out during the conference here. Dale did not rule out the possibility of some. You AP is being extraterrestrial in nature something that they referred to, as their quote unquote collection apparatus, which is most likely a satellite or a network of satellites in low orbit around Earth, is what they use to investigate the. You AP reports in real time.

12:29 The problem they stated with releasing this footage is that a very large portion of this evidence is from the top down looking onto private property. They say that there are legal issues with sharing such media without written consent. And another reason being that they do not wish to create panic and local areas and one particular case there was a set of pilots in one craft off the coast of Virginia Beach. Believe that they flew past the UFO turned around to get a better look. And realize that what they saw was a balloon with a depiction of Bart Simpson on it. Yes, it's true that we did not get a ton of information from this highly anticipated event. But one thing I would like to point out, Out is that whether or not this is a distraction, this is something that we all have been wanting a lot of complaining about what it was that was discussed.

13:18 But my questions to the community are, what did you expect out of a preliminary briefing? And is there anything that they could have said that would have made you happy? So, basically going into, you know, these lot of lot of times, right? Facebook Twitter, even Tick-Tock right. You get these people that are talking about the stuff in their complaint Planning about this is just a distraction. This these are shiny keys that they're dangling over here so that we can they can do something over here to the other side man. Let me get let me get your initial thoughts on this first. Yeah go ahead. I think it's it. If it's a complete reality I think it's good for them to be involved since they allegedly would have a very big database of knowledge of other, you know, said, craft or you APS or whatever we want to call them.

14:19 My first thought too is I heard recently that I believe believe it was Steven Greer. That said it but there's a difference between you a peas and UFOs. Hmm. And the big difference is you APS is like a No, it was. Who's the guy that used to work? For the penny was a Travis Taylor? He's on that Skinwalker. Ranch show. Mmm. Yes, got you? Okay, that's that's he said it. He said there's a difference between you APS and UFOs. UFOs are on a diet of fide, flying objects, their physical objects, and you a PSR phenomena. So where you might see a distortion or what people will say, a portal or whatnot.

14:59 So there is a difference and I think a lot of people have now lumped in UAP. Is to just being UFOs. That's definitely how they talk about it. Yeah. And it feels like there's a lot of word play here and I mean simultaneously obviously you're going to talk about it in a little bit. There's stuff with Congress to which is a whole separate entity from from NASA. NASA says that they have months of data to go through. But it was a pretty underwhelming hearing or, you know, briefing or whatever. It was there were some people that said that this is not extraterrestrial. Even though there's whistleblower after whistleblower after whistleblowers I think there's like 700 Plus accounts.

15:45 Now of people saying that this stuff is legitimate, you know, to a degree, I had a couple questions for you but I'm gonna save them for the end or closer to the end because I either way I'm just going to end up asking the same questions over and over and over again because all four of these topics, they're very tightly knit together. Yeah, that's kind of, you know, how this episode was built, you know, there's these four things that happened. One thing that does coincide with the actually just thought about it. Since you mentioned it when you're Action April 30th, the end of April isn't that? Very close to this Las Vegas event because it was like May 1st.

16:31 So, actually right there, it was April 30th at 11:50 p.m. Huh. Yeah, the 911 call came in at 11:50 p.m. and they had the hearing the same day. They had the hearing the same day and go on. I don't want to fuck up here. Don't wanna put off the wrong information. Here, something else happened that day too. I can't think of it. Off the top, my head. I'm sure it'll come to me and then, you know, we'll talk about it then. Yeah. But um, the reason why I didn't ask one first is I feel like that one was probably the one with the least amount of talking points. Like you were saying probably the least eventful.

17:14 They did an hour worth of just talking like science heads. Yeah. And they're not discrediting. There's their work and what they want to achieve, but they do say that it's their obligation in the nation's obligation to determine whether this phenomena oppose, any potential risk to airspace. Safety. So it'd be, you know, whether that be military commercial, you know, right. So one of the questions that was asked to the panel was could these be of extraterrestrial origin and they did say that they can't rule them out. Yeah. They also didn't say that they believe that it could be as well.

17:55 Very very very cryptic but here's here's the thing right is I'm you know I'm watching all these videos. I'm going to these these Facebook groups and stuff And you're just hearing people badmouth, badmouth badmouth, right? And that's where the kind of my question comes from. Is what could they have said to where they weren't going to get bad enough? Like when would it be the appropriate time? And what would be the appropriate content that they could have put out where people wouldn't have been just saying that this was all a ruse and you know, like they're talking to us like we're stupid or whatever. I mean I don't think there is a place in time. And the amount of information that they can put out where people are going to believe it.

18:40 Because even if NASA has said, yeah, you know what, these are extraterrestrial beings, we've talked to him. We've got a couple of back at back at the crib. People would still be calling fucking Liars. Yeah. Because I mean there's there's been proven weird things within the organization. I mean, the organization itself is one of the Von Braun. Yeah, its own story, I think for any agency. Clearly, clearly NASA is not briefed on the clandestine black projects that are happening behind even Congress. The president, you know, and most of the military shot, only finally, leave Congress and President or disclose a lot of this shit know. And I think I think if all of those facets you have, if all of the military, the White House Congress, the pain even parts of the Pentagon that are not involved. If they're not involved in, Not not in the need to know of whatever these projects are.

19:39 As Steven Greer, would say they're legal projects. They, how could they disclose that? I mean, realistically like we would all love to hear. Yes, we have this and we're being contacted by this, we know where they're from, but I've been thinking a lot about it recently. How I would feel. It wouldn't diminish me as a person. That's like the biggest thing is like well we are definitely. I'm driving my combustion engine. Yeah car and these guys are drifting from Galaxy to Galaxy like it's nobody's business and that makes me feel pretty like some garbage monkey that is trying to get to the top Branch, you know, it's it, I think it would be astronomically catastrophic. Check for our society the way it is. Now for them to fully just say all of this because you're literally saying that we are maybe not even amid Branch Animal, you know?

20:47 And that would just it would just rip the fabric of our society when it comes to religion politics economics. And I think this quote, Steven Greer again, he said that, you know, if you use like the certain energy certain technologies that they Allegedly have that it would, you know, it would destroy the one oil industry. It would destroy like public services. So you wouldn't be getting price gouged to have electricity and it would take away surface roads. So massive, you know, asphalt industry, massive massive, massive money makers and it would just on top of If we, if they have 100%. Yes, there are 60 blah, blah, blah beings that are visiting us right.

21:35 Now, we know about all of them and we have some of their stuff, some of it's ours, we remade it, some of its not There'd be you think we had bad riots in 2020? Hmm, it'd be crazy. It's actually like really, it's actually reinvigorated. My thought process on survival in a post-apocalyptic could we had generate our own post-apocalypse by saying aliens exist even though they already have in a way? So it's, it's a weird, it's been a weird five years. It has been an You know, I want to, I want to be clear because I think I kind of came off as like a as what are our famed commenter has called us. She'll kind of kind of came off a little chilly. There, I am not taking NASA side on this whatsoever like I don't I I think they're crock of shit, you know. So that's just my my opinion but the reality of it is is just like you were saying, they have to put it out. The trickle.

22:44 If they're gonna put it out at all, it can't be just a massive information. Dump, could you imagine if everybody on this world found out that where the ants, right? So, yeah, from our point of view, we don't pay attention against or bugs or anything, right? We just walk about and their their existence is is nil. Do we don't pay attention to them, right? Yeah. Our technology is far more greater than ants are and why would we ever share it? It rips your consciousness of part of it because You're like, all of the Hobbies, I have the loves that I have the music, I listened to the food, I love to eat. It means nothing compared off a something like that. So yeah, it would it would destroy A lot especially especially in our society, which is so at least in America fragmented and like very very fragile right now.

23:39 Yes, very alright. Let's let's move on because we're going to we're going to have a lot to talk about probably with this next one. This is probably I would say. The second biggest topic that we're going to talk about today. Then we're going to jump into another one that we're going to end with the biggest one. I believe. So we're going to jump right into David groups. So earlier this month, June 20 23 for, those are listening in the future, a veteran of the US Air Force and NGA or national geospatial agency came out to the public and Congress about what he claims is the truth about US government and they're almost century-long cover-up of their knowledge and possession of both unidentified craft of Unknown Origin and extraterrestrial bodies. This man's name is David grew rich and he has set waves throughout the world and seems to have created created a starting point for disclosure of both alien life, visiting Earth and the truth about what those things in the sky that we have been witnessing for seemingly forever, but with every layer of Deceit that gets uncovered more questions. Arise as the public splits their opinions on whether this is a way for the government to get us to look at the shiny Keys as they conduct something far more Sinister and the other direction.

24:49 Or if this is truly a step in the right direction when it comes to disclosure in his claims groose describes quote In tag vehicles and a hidden race between countries to identify UFOs, beginning in the era of the Cold War and before you even ask. No, he is not alone since the Whistleblower has come forward. Many more with similar backgrounds, have unloaded their own knowledge and since many have verified claims of their counterparts, the changes of this, actually being something of substance seem strong. Jonathan gray being one of such members of importance is an intelligence officer who has been quoted saying, quote, the nonhuman intelligence phenomenon is real, we are not alone.

25:32 Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. Either this is a global phenomenon and yet a global solution continues to elude us, another whistleblower Carl Nell a retired army. Colonel says this about David koresh and his claims quote his assertion concerning, the existence of a terrestrial arms race occurring, sub Rosa over the past 80 years focused on. Engineering Technologies of unknown Origins is fundamentally correct. As is the indisputable realization that at least some of these Technologies of Unknown Origin. Derived from non-human intelligences with literally thousands of amateur UFO videos easily accessed on multiple platforms. It has always been my personal belief that something has to be to blame for them.

26:20 And Groucho, offers the explanation that the u.s. government does, in fact have possession of multiple graph of Of quote, non-human origin. And with non-human craft, there must be non human pilot trait. Well, group has an answer for that as well. And claims that, this is not one single isolated incident, but rather something that has been continually happening since at least the 1940s and the US government has several craft and bodies in their possession. And the government has spent unfathomable amounts of money, covering it all up from the public, a few more notable pieces of information from Cruz and his Words have broken the surface since the initial flow of information began, info such as yes. They are alien but not from space. They are from other dimensions and they may have squeak through during particle collision experiments. And one such craft that the government has is as large as a football field inside, since his initial claims, the topic of UFOs and extraterrestrials has flooded newsrooms online, forums podcasts.

27:22 And any other form of media, you can think of the whole world seems to be reacting. And waiting for the next wave of information. Alright Dave, go ahead, man. Say things I wish everyone was ready, but if you still walk up to a random person and say, Lord, you know, when you're going you're going like a public Facebook thing and be like, so, thoughts on UFOs and you'll get a lot of a lot of hate still a lot of stigma. The fact that it's being talked about by everybody, rush is a very interesting person because initially, I had over her. Third conversing, with some other podcasts that Jeremy Korbel and George Knapp didn't want to touch this. But it came out last week that they knew about this for like 16 months already.

28:11 Yeah. They had already done an audio interview and this guy David, he, he, he's, he feared for his life, you know, with some of the stuff that he was coming out and saying a lot of it kind of has some similar parallels to Bob Lazar store. Three. Hmm, even though he definitively said and stated that there's definitely bodies deceased at least deceased and them being allegedly From Another Dimension. That's a very interesting point that a lot of this this type of UFO activity. Showed up when we started ripping the atom we just did an operation Fishbowl episode and it was very interesting because we were trying to figure out why they would blow nukes off in the upper atmosphere and peace.

28:57 And most most of it had to do with they were trying to rip through the firmament which is an interesting take. Hmm. Yeah. But it doesn't explain The amount of artwork in other Centuries with these objects shown in it so we didn't have nukes in the 1400s. So that can't be the only reason they must have been here already and if they're interdimensional, and we're able to, you know, use emps because every explosion like that like a nuclear bomb definitely, cause electromagnetic pulses and that can really Shift things.

29:38 I was listening to an interview. It was a random UFO podcast. Forget the name, sorry, dude. But I was listening to an interview that they had posted from someone at some panel. I think it was a recent panel. It might have been the same one that Greer was at recently. I forget, I don't remember exactly where that was, but they had said that the United States at least since the 50s or 60s, or so. So had Weaponry that were directionally EMP so they can knock these crafts out of the sky. Easy like easy peasy without having to use Rockets which would, you know, really make the the posting of the Chinese weather balloon kind of funny, even more funny.

30:29 But this, this is a I want to believe so bad that there's something else. Because maybe my ego is not involved in that. But this guy's claims are huge and there are 750 one other people that are on our semi redacted list that have come out and said maybe not similar but very very, you know, closed accounts. So it's a and you had meant, you just mentioned. They have a retrieval program. Allegedly 122 retrievals have Opened, since nineteen at least 1947 right?

31:12 So it's it's supposedly supposedly they have, you know, a lot of a lot of debris, right? A lot of crashing crash debris, but there's also I was reading, 627, crush, crush her crucial. I think I called him a brush. Whatever units crush. He's a good guy. Whoever he is, he was saying something about six to seven fully intact and operational, but About this guy. I don't know exactly what to think of him yet. It just don't write. A lot of this is just super Convenient, right? He let go of his information in the last week in April and immediately after that we get the what we're going to talk about in the last segment of the show and then we get the the NASA panel and then immediately after that you have Greer's thing that we're actually gonna talk about that next very, very short. I don't have a lot on that.

32:05 Just, you know, I'll talk about that after that segment, but a lot of people, a lot of people are putting a lot of weight into To him being part of the government and coming out, and they just don't trust it. And, you know, I just want to say stop, you know, I understand where you're coming from. Because I also did read a little bit about his George Knapp and Jeremy Korbel conversation. If you will, he needed to either shut his mouth or come out so far. That he's safe. Yeah, right, because if he starts trickling out information, this is how people get on alive. This is how they get Clint.

32:50 And so, he had to come out and be so public about it. He had to, he had to go to Congress. He had to go to the, the media. He had to go to Jeremy and, and be like, Yo, dude, this is what's up. So, so that alone, I don't know, man. It's such a, it's a rock, and a hard place, it whether or not, you're going to believe him or not, but the way he did it is the way you should do it. And I think people are penalizing them for that. I think what you need to do is you need to take a look at the contents that he put out. Yes, there's no photographic proof, there's no video proof. There's no DNA evidence. There's no nothing. Okay, we're all going off of what he said, but the simple fact that he's coming out And wave after wave, after wave of people are coming out either confirming.

33:39 What David is saying or coming out with their own stuff, that's along the same lines and it's very it's intense. How similar some of this information is, you know, some people are in different projects. No idea where we're grush was, you know, I don't know exactly what he was doing, but I could tell you, one thing is being, you know, ex-military that there are things that I would do that. Us would have an idea that I was doing. And I the same thing, you know, vice versa and it could be just something that simple simple as me working on an aircraft, you know, me and my Squadron or working on the h-60 helicopters and Norfolk Virginia. And then there's another group of people over in San Diego, doing the same thing on the different h-60 helicopter, and we don't know what their fucking doing and then that I think people put too much into while the stories don't match up. Well, you know, I mean, put look at This way. I mean, if you look at the corporation McDonald's, right? Can do you know what's going on at all the other McDonald's if they're working or franchise, right? I mean let's just let's just be honest man. So yeah, of course, the stories aren't going to match up. They're not going to write.

34:50 But what you want to look for is the similarities you want to look for? Okay, well this person's talking about this and somebody else who claims to be part of a completely. Different thing is also talking about something pretty similar. Another person who says, yeah, I do I know Data. I know him. And yeah, I can guarantee that what he's telling you is the truth. Well, maybe maybe put a little bit into that. That's just what I'm saying. You know, I think people are too quick to jump the gun and some things and and they're not stopping and thinking about this kind of stuff. A lot of people have to, kind of put yourself in his shoes. Allegedly, to his story, in his account, he just got so fed up and I believe he worked at the national reconnaissance office. So like he was, he was, I don't know where that actual office is.

35:34 Is I should, but he got fed up and pretty much, I mean, I guess quit, I guess you could say. And then just knew kind of what Lazar said if he didn't go to the media. He was a dead man. Yeah. And, and if he walked out with, you know, he probably has sensitive material. He probably has physical material what it, whether it, be pictures, and depth, at least documents. Where he can, you know, if he has it on his persons and like you said you'd start trickling that one document gets leaked here and ends up on Reddit. It's going to get traced and he's going to end up, not making it home one day. So I think it's the best insurance policy. And I think that could be why there's so many that are popping up.

36:23 There's been a couple, you know, a couple more in the last couple weeks since he came out. And I mean, not everybody could be telling the truth, there's a lot of clout chasing in 2012. So So absolutely, you know, it's it could be. Somebody could just be fabricating what they're saying. But this guy saying goes along the lines with a lot of what a lot of other people are saying whether they're even ex-military. I mean, some people are, you know, like Steven Greer. We talked to Nick Pope, Nick. Pope did not want to talk. He did not want to disclose things. He made it very clear. I can't, that thing. Just talking to quote. Yeah, that was it. Phenomenal, phenomenal conversation. I would have loved to have had more time with him but he you know we would ask him certain questions and he was like I want to tell you but I can't you know and that was that was definitive enough.

37:21 That there's at least Something happening, at least with it within his own government. And he's he lives the United States. So he's, you know, he knows all the stuff that's probably going on here. Being a part of the crew that he's a part of so talking to some of those people and then hearing this guy's claims and everybody pooped on Bob Lazar for so long. They're like this, guy's full of crap, you know, he's saying I'll stuff and some people confirm certain things that he said, but with David grush I think he Did what he had to do and if for the people complaining, if he did, what he had to do to save his self himself, he did it for a better cause because we're about to get some serious leaks. And if for all the, the siop people that are saying this is a complete psyop there there, you know, pushing this and pushing that.

38:16 Why would, why would there be documentaries and why would podcast be allowed to say this information? I think it's because they've lost fucking hold of it. I think I think there's they don't know how to go forward with this because it's not only United States. It's other governments Canada, the Canada is even more compartmentalize, just like a handful of people in Canada that know the truth and in here. There's so many people working on so many different types of access projects that they're, you know, they're ready to ready to speak up the it would be the hate to say it. But If you bigger cover up the 9/11, you know, but it'd be it'd be a, the greatest cover-up in the greatest Sham, in the history of the human race.

39:04 If this is all been fabricated to get us to look certain ways and to start believing and who science fiction is actually real. I really think that just coming coming from animal. We're both Americans and living in our country in different parts of our country. I don't think people receive that information to. Well, I think they want it but I don't think that they want it because if you had the knowledge of this guy had And think about that, think about that eating in your gut every day for years and years, like you can't tell a soul, you can't tell your girlfriend, you can't tell your wife, you can't tell your family, you can't tell anybody no matter how drunk you are.

39:52 No matter, you know, like you can't say anything and then to just get to a point to being like well, If I quit then I'm not a part of that, you know, allegedly, you know, you're not a part of that, you know, the contracts that you're in. So you just spit it and run. So for people criticizing this guy, yes, it could. All it could be, it could be some of it could be fanciful. I doubt it because this guy's got a real record in the military and people vouch for him already. So it's that's big, you know, it's even, it's even more compelling evidence than this than the stuff that baubles are set because there's some people that They're like yeah, I know him but his records were white.

40:33 So we have, you know, nothing to go off at least we have pictures and and not even pictures. His record, his service record is is right there. So, something's going on to where they're allowing it to happen. And I think it's because I think people think that big brother is actually looking over the shoulder all the time, but I think a lot of information just gets out in the public Because The Internet of Things and the sea in the We live in is just too big for them to control everything up. I agree, man. 100% agree. All right. Let's let's move on to this little topic here, and then we'll end it with a bang. Bang bang. So, we've been talking a lot about dr.

41:16 Steven Greer. So let's go ahead and jump right into his conference. So in another conference that the community is abuzz about is the one that was held by the famed. Dr. Steven Greer once. physician turned ufologists, the event was streamed online and lasted a little over four hours and it was a man by the name of Eric Heckler who stole the show Heckler announced that the South Poles amundson, Scott station operated by the United States. National Science Foundation is actually a quote air traffic control for aliens. He described that in 2010 the US Aerospace agency known as Raytheon hired him as a contractor at the research center, he painted a terrific picture of a facility that was already all inspiring with the technology it showed on the surface.

42:10 But it was the neutrino Ray technology that the station used to communicate with quote unquote exotic, craft from outer space now just for knowledge. Sakes neutrino, raise AKA goes, particles, are tiny subatomic particles in nature capable of passing through anything? As if it wasn't there, the particles literally just do not Touch. They don't they don't do anything with other particles, basically, like they're ignoring them and even though they are the most mysterious they are the most abundant particle in the universe. These neutrino rays are produced by quote unquote, digital optical modules, a mile under the station and look like a powerful green laser pointing the space. When operated this conference was kicked off completely because of the previous mentioned, David grush, whistleblowing, So, I didn't put a ton of information in this, because everyone's dissected, this everyone has dissected this, and I'm going to be honest with you, this was a bunch of ufologists, right?

43:19 Nothing against ufologists, I think they do, you know, cool thing. And I'm actually jealous of the drop but the, the community that I associate myself, With tends to have some of the biggest crack box to. I'm not saying that everybody at Greer's thing that he was holding. His crackpots are crackpots. But what I'm saying is is that every one of them Except for a select few. We're amateurs.

44:00 Okay, I'm an amateur. If I showed up to this thing and I started spewing off UFO facts. I'm nobody. That you should be taking your information from, okay. I'm a guy who does a podcast and that's the kind of people that were showing up there. This was also a thing that was held online where people that were online. We're able to speak and present. How do you feel about Steven Greer? Let me ask you that. I'm indifferent, I can't tell. I don't want to throw shade at him and say that this guy's a grifter, but, but a lot of the things, there's a lot of things that I want to watch that he's produced and I already have the subscription to the service. And now I have to pay an extra $20 to watch what he, what he, what he puts out, which is that type of pay wall, that's personal but I think he if he's got a lot of claims, you know, you have the serious account. Has with that, that what is it 12 or 6 inch? Little being that he claims was a being. He's got a few other programs that he's made but I did get to listen to a portion of his stuff and I still don't know about him.

45:12 I really if he's telling the truth, he's very knowledgeable and I have and he does say openly that he's been attempts at his life which would make me believe if he is saying this. Type of stuff. A lot of it is really out there like really out there. Yeah. Like the Close Encounters of the Fifth Fifth there, something he has like ETS of the fifth kind some documentary weather like telekinetically channeling around a campfire UFOs. Which was very I mean you can doctor any any type of reality television show or any type of TV with film but his speech at one of these conferences was very interesting and he does talk about multiple things that kind of like I don't want to say it's made me like jump a certain way but it made me raise my eyebrow look a different direction on some of the things that he says, where some of the things that we see.

46:22 Are actually either a, a, a drone that's man-made, a man Recreation. I don't think he Ever doubts or says that these things are just developed organically by us, we've definitely reverse-engineered something and then some of them are actual ETS. The one thing that he's gotten the most flak from about this stuff, is his softness of saying all the ET UFOs, you ap's? Yeah, are all not hostile. Allegedly saying 60-something races but the ones that are reverse engineered by man are hostile to National Security because if other countries get them, obviously we are very good at blowing ourselves up, so, it's, it's a blowing each other up, you know, we're good at that, and that would be one really weird thing to know that.

47:26 All of these alleged races are non-hostile, but he does make a fair point in his speech where he does say, if they have the technology to do what they're doing, they could just delete our space-time like that. If they really wanted to, they didn't have to use like an Independence Day, big laser beams and blow up the Empire State Building. You know, they wouldn't do it conventionally. They could just literally Turn our space-time off and just vaporized be done in like a pest control just spraying and he'll just completely eliminating their reality. Our reality. I don't know if I believe that the intentions I don't think we can ever unless you've spoken to an alien, you can't say their intentions of what ET is, let alone multiple species from multiple star systems on evolutionary. Paths and different Technologies and do they have ethics and morals.

48:23 And but if they are that advanced, then they would have had Advanced, they would have advanced past. The, this guy's staring at me. I want to fight a Sprite so, you know, we're very primitive. Still, we're good for that. We're good for that thing on her chest, you know? Like, that's what we do. Yo, bro, what are you looking at? Yeah, the Toots looking at me, funny. And we get mad at that, we get angry at really ridiculous stuff and so, I don't think that they would concern us. I think that if our planet is a special as weave, Come to believe that, you know, it's like going to the San Diego Zoo. It's world.

49:06 Renowned, why wouldn't it be Galactic Lee renowned, that this is, this is an oasis where you can go or and a lot of them could be from here, like you said in the beginning of this episode that interdimensional but there's like you said, there's a lot of crackpots. I don't want it, I don't want to talk shit. But when cast and iy red, dark Fleet and The entire book was cited in all of a sudden all the factual information was cited from Wikipedia and I don't know how much I can believe that stuff. I'd the secret space program you know the Galactic Federation all that stuff. It could very well be real. But I think that might be the sayegh and what we're dealing with is something far Stranger Than the government that has no knowledge of, it can even explain and I think that's where we're at is the Public's got their shoulders up the government's got their shoulders up the Militaries, got their shoulders up and then there's a group of people that we, all may be nameless that we all talk about.

50:07 That knows what's up? Hmm. So Greer. I don't know if he's if he's telling the truth. The guys, the guys a special individual if he's full of shit. He's a special individual, and another another Spectrum, you know, he's an asshole like that. It's so hard being in the position where people come to you and ask you. What do you think about this kind of stuff? I don't know how many people you get reaching out to you, but I have I get quite a lot of emails, man, or private messages on Facebook from people who want to share like their top-secret experiences is or whatever.

50:49 Right. It happens that got quite a bit, it's just Just it's tough to be able to answer their questions. And Steven Greer is one of the ones that's extremely tough, because he's not an idiot at all. The guys really fucking smart. Yeah. And the guy knows how to talk and he knows how to think he's intelligent and that's the thing that kind of, you know, it's kind of a, it's kind of a weird one because it's also the same for the opposite side of the spectrum for me to wear, if somebody wasn't so intelligent and Able to speak as well and they're coming up with all this stuff. You know, you look for these little cues of, of ignorance, great. And you can't find that in Steve, you just can't but because he's so smart because he's so well at speaking, No man.

51:42 I mean you look at someone like that and you got to think that this to could probably come up with a Hollywood script Ralph Ralph that yeah. You know we really like hey man give me a script on Atlantis right now boom. And I bet you you can throw up some bullshit. That's where I kind of halt with him and I just don't know how to answer the question when it comes to a. What do you think about Steven Greer? It's a loaded question because dudes out there, he's out there, he's in the public eye. And he's making a ton of fucking money from. Yep. And he's really smart and you would think that somebody that makes that kind of money because, you know, let's be honest, the guy's not a doctoring easy ufologists.

52:25 Yeah, there's something to say for the amount of money that this guy can be making. I don't know what it costs to get him on your show. Right. I'm sure it's probably not cheap, probably not. Yeah probably not but He also strikes me as a guy that's going to charge you per 10 minutes per minute per hour. You know, it's going to be something Hefty and I don't know, we've paid, we've paid for some people and yeah, no it's respectable pay, you know? It's I'm always, I'm always, I mean, I understand that, you know, if you're in that position and you can make money off of it, do it, I mean I would not gonna lie to you, I would, you know, I'm sorry. but you mix that with how intelligent he is, I don't know, man.

53:17 He could be just scamming all this. You never know. I used to feel that way about Korbel, but now I'm just like he's a very Very intelligent filmmaker and is figured a niche, but him putting himself in that position. Got him the access to the people that he's getting, you know, if he didn't, if he wasn't doing anything on UFOs or Skinwalker Ranch or any of that, he would not be talking to the people that he's talking to. You would, you would just be an artist, you know? So I think he got himself involved in that and that's a very smart Play because I'm sure he's making good money off of it. The stuff that he does when he's a huge name now. Yeah, well I mean, I guess it's I guess we you have to. It's kind of like the same thing when you're when you're in a band that you really like just blows up and starts, you know, they go from stages, small stages, two Arenas, and you're like, are they sold out?

54:18 I mean, I'm joking. Yeah, they're blowing the fuck up, dude. Oh, there's bands that. Just explode and people. People people are like, oh, they did this or they do that to make money. I mean, you asked the question a minute ago, wouldn't you? You know, if you're doing Something like that. And I think these guys are very similar to, they get very similar treatment and it's very similar to where you hit something and now you're popular. And I think it's good to have these guys out there talking in the mainstream. You're seeing on main stream streaming services and there's some out their stuff on some of these like, Amazon Prime, has some wild Petey.

55:05 Documentaries. And like, there's like a whole series. If you can get through it, the way it's produced, it's it's tough to get through, but if you can get through a five part of e, t--'s Among Us, it's it's a crazy documentary. If it's all real, then there's some stuff that's like, it's a little bit more theatrical. But, you know, I guess if they are telling the truth, all these people more power to them, to be able to make money. Off of something like this. Because I mean, like you said if I could make money off of researching UFOs, I would totally do that. Oh, totally 100. 100 I do exactly what the main seal. All right, let's move on, we're over an hour already so let's will will get this last one out because I know we're going to talk about this for for decent amount. Let's talk about the Vegas aliens. So an incredible 911 call heard around the world. Came from Las Vegas.

56:08 Nevada on April 30th of 2023 literally minutes before midnight quote. There's like an 8-foot person beside it. And another one is inside it and it has big eyes and it's looking at us and it's still there. This line refers to a suppose UFO landing in a residential yard backyard and multiple tall aliens walking. In out within the line of sight of the caller quote, I swear to God, this is not a joke, this is actually where terrified they look like aliens and they're not human hundred percent, they're not human the event gets even stranger and more believable as a police officer calls. In to dispatch claiming to have a recording of a UFO on his body.

56:52 Camera in this guy shortly. Before, the call was placed the officers that responds to the call were very willing to arrive investigate due to the call. The dispatch and curiosity running wild. What is important to know is that it's not just the Los Vegas Metro Police that are taking this seriously, but there's a few three-letter agencies that are also appearing in to the event. So, not a very big right up there, Dave? But I mean, I would be pretty damn surprised. If any of the listeners of the infinite Rabbit Hole haven't heard of this fucking story. Now if you haven't, you're trapped in the hole. Yeah it's a this is everywhere right now, this is huge. This is we probably could have done this whole episode just on this, be honest with you.

57:44 Yeah, there's lots of visual aspects to this this account, multiple facets, the between Las Vegas Police, and the home owners and the people that were, you know, people that were recording and actually made the call this Is one of the events that podcasters or whatever. The fucking future of this whole thing is and 30 years. They're going to be reading books on this event, presenting it like we do here on the infinite Rat Hole. This is one of those events, okay, it happened literally just three weeks ago. We had one of these events. Like, I mean, shit, the Kecksburg UFO incident, I would say Roswell, but it wasn't.

58:32 The, some some people are saying that this thing crashed in this guy's yard, some people say is landed. The guy who owned the call say, said that landed the, the officer said he saw a streak through the sky. Did you see the body cam footage? By the way? Yeah. And the street, it looks a lot slower than a normal meteor. It's definitely takes a lot longer to, you know, it could have just been at a weird angle, it was burning green. So I think that's indicative of nickel. So yeah, it was made of nickel. It was burning pretty hot, but there was something tailing it. That was following the trajectory in the body cam. If you slow it down, like it almost looks like an orb, you know Shale and it's very, it's very strange. And yeah, the body cam footage.

59:19 I mean, not that. There was definitely, at least a meteor a meteor. Right. You know. So that's, that's proven, I think we can, we can say, do you think that or could have been Artifact of the lens. A lot of people have been looking into that. I think, I mean, I didn't look into it. Personally, it could be, but also a lot of people have done like duotone and - and no infrared there. And another thing that's really interesting about the body cam footage people have, ran it through their computers and have done infrared on it. And it doesn't show up on infrared, which would mean it's not burning hot. Huh.

1:00:02 In case? Yeah. That is very interesting. Hmm, very cool. Yeah, I was ready for that. I like the nickel thing that you just kind of kind of interesting. Remember War of the Worlds when he touches it. It's ice cold. Yeah. So this little event although it wasn't the last thing that happened, right? It was the last thing we're talking about and it's a nice way to bundle up all this information on UFOs. Aliens. And what an event? Have you heard this guy come out and talk about yet? Because the guy who made the recording, right? The guy who called and I want him and he took the Tick-Tock almost immediately.

1:00:45 Yeah, and started. He started his own channel. I can remember what the fuck. It's called though, and he's talking about it, he's talking about it, he's talking about how apparently the police officers when they got to the Raus MIT. They went into the backyard and they were recording and something was there. And if you, if you Cruise along like the the Facebook page, forums credit, you find this one particular image that everyone is claiming comes from a police officer that night or from the, the caller themselves. So I can't reach it, everyone's claims, it's from some other source or whatnot, you know, image I'm talking about where it's they're shown. Like the truck and right over the bed of the truck, you can sort of make out.

1:01:34 Yeah. Yeah. There's a couple really, really interesting. Screenshots from both videos from the police side. And the people who lived in the house, the cops. I mean, the cops are intrigued. They were also freaked out when they got there. You can tell. Because I think one of the cops is, I think on the body cam, I think he's quoted as saying, like, I'm not going to be S. You guys, one of my partner said, that they saw something fall out of the sky to. So that's why I'm kind of curious and he asked, did you see anything land in your backyard? I think. The Landing somebody already debunked at the the circle circular area of the gravel or sand at they allegedly had.

1:02:17 Somebody went back in Google Earth and saw it in March or January so that Landing aspect could be not too factual. Might have been something that got muddied up in the game of telephone with them. But there was, there are. There were other people in the Vegas metro area that heard booms, you know, so it could have been something. I mean, let's face it, if they have the technology they can ride and you know, I mean look at look at Heaven's Gate. They thought they believe that there is a UFO in the tale of a hike song Pro Hale-Bopp. Yeah, get some decades and run out in this person's backyard. There's, there's so much research being done and scrutiny and pull picking apart the video footage. Inch.

1:03:08 I've watched a ton of it and every single time I've watched at least the cell phone footage from whoever's filming the presumably I guess the father and the son that called it in and everything, I don't see eye, you see some movement but you don't see anything and that just makes me believe. Well I mean if it's a highly Advanced creature then they can definitely. Why would they why wouldn't They cloak, you know, like or at least you can see like a predator, you can see like, you know, different distortions and what you're looking at. So this one's everybody's saying so many people are just like hoax hoax hoax hoax.

1:03:53 I think that there's interesting stuff there's the water has been muddied because people were saying oh the cops put cameras there and the somebody did you know. Yeah, some new stations are saying beforehand, which made it look like a conspiracy right off the cliff and then You had to really read, they put temporary after the fact so they can see if something happened. So it's and then there's claims the family disappeared and the kids still posted on tick-tocks. So it's they didn't disappear even said no my family didn't get disappeared, you know, like we're still here, we just want and but he did say something very strange, we just want to forget about it, we want it to go away. So that brings up the three letter.

1:04:34 Yes, he's of probably harassing the shit out of this family there. It has been a lot of reports of them in the area to in that particular area. There are neighbors that are coming forward and saying that yeah I do we're sorry, get some weird black cars coming through and weird hours of the night knocking on that door and and you know anyways. But yeah. So it did they did end up putting the camera up in the backyard the video that I saw. Yeah you do see some movement and you can sort of see some I sign I shine almost yeah it looks like it could It would be indicative of a gray or a tall gray, because he did say what 8 to 10 feet they were saved and the but that's not. I mean even the tall Gray's aren't that tall. No right there.

1:05:20 They're human-sized their 56 up to possibly seven feet tall mostly 5 to 6 in the little ones are three to four feet tall, man. I don't know. The thing is, is like yeah, I think in one of the, in the video I saw I saw like a bull Think think the thing blinked, yeah, which was super weird and you kind of look at it and like, um, and that could be just like a fucking raccoon on top of the, the truck bed there. But at the same time, you can sort of see the shape of the, whatever it is. Head is definitely not standing eight to nine feet or eight to ten feet tall at the moment. Unless it's hunch down, but yet again, is this one of those things were all falling victim to peridot Leah, you know, and you look at it and it's blurry just like everything else in the world that we deal with.

1:06:15 And you sort of see the outline of a grey aliens face, which Short of mimics the human face and it's a know it's really tough. You know what I really, really do my best to try not to be a victim of pareidolia. It's but it's tough with that one man. I don't know. I don't know it. I want to believe it. Like I want to like really, really bad but I can't sit here and say 100% that I do.

1:06:57 I want this to be real. I do, I think that this is, this is one of this could be our generational alien story. This could be, you know, if anything really comes out from it, hopefully, hopefully, this isn't what we get from our generation when it comes to like, an alien contact story. Hopefully there's something better that comes along, but I mean, it is what it is and it's nice taste to. I like it. Hmm. Alright, so this is what happened, I know, this is kind of awkward, but we're coming back in from the future.

1:07:40 Today is tomorrow, we actually had some technical difficulties after that last part there and we called it quits. And then we, well, actually, I'll take the back. We, we finished out the episode. And Zen Caster sucks internet sucks. Technology sucks and we lost the whole back end of that, episode lucky for everyone listening, it was roughly, I'd say five minutes, not much at all. But I got Dave back with me today to say about everybody. Unfortunately, we don't know everything that we missed, so we can't reiterate it. I know that the last Thing, I believe we left off on was talking about the aliens.

1:08:28 And then I believe Dave had just said something along the lines of the guy posted on Tick-Tock saying that he his family did not get disappeared. I think that's where we left off and that's pretty far into the conversation. Yeah that was pretty much at the end of what we were talking about. I think that the only thing we missed really was us just kind of like our own thoughts on it. From what I remember from the from the past is that I am still on the fence with this. With this case, it's there are possible. All images and still frames that look like bodies. One thing I wanted to say that, I don't think I got to say because the internet provider decided to tell us we were not allowed to.

1:09:23 We got Shadow band in live real time. What is maybe, maybe was there was one video that circulated where there was It almost looks like eyes looking through the fence of this property right in front of these people where they were standing. Yeah. And that would imply that there is a much smaller creature than 8 to 10 feet as well, and if it's, and it was very strange. That was the, that was honestly, the most compelling evidence that there could have been something there for me, was the movement behind the fence, but, who knows? I mean, you're in the desert. I don't know.

1:10:06 Polly. We're in Las Vegas, these people lived I mean I live in a major city and I get coyotes and fox and all that stuff going past. My house could have been could have just been a normal normal Critter. I believe the truck was right there too. So I mean it could have been just a like you said a critter jump up on the truck? I don't know where I left off, but if I reiterate this, I apologize everybody. I want to believe it. That's the, the simple thing is, I want to believe this but I'm weary right? I feel like there's a lot of really cool things that happen when you look at the the footage from the top and then you look at the footage of these people freaking out.

1:10:52 Like it isn't they're legitimately scared people. Like these guys were not having a really good night and when you listen to the 911 call There's fear there. It's this, this guy's not, I don't these bullshit. I can't can't tell you 100% that he was sober, don't know that. But all in all I want to want to believe it. I want to believe this because this could potentially be Our arrows. Big UFO story. Our big alien sorting this. This could be it.

1:11:36 You know, you look back in the history on all the UFO and alien abduction stories. There's honestly not too much that happens in the majority of them. And this is a really good one, that's really close to home. And I think that's, that's what's so unique and really cool about this one is that this one is right here at home guard, right? This is American soil. The guy witnessed two alien beings near aircraft on his property. And freaked out and at the same time police officers witnessed something streaking through the sky. Supposedly Crash Landing.

1:12:25 I mean, it just has it has everything. It has everything you need in order for this to become a thing of lower in the future. It's got the alphabet soup boys. Showing up the neighbors complain. That there's these black Vehicles, driving by, and knock on the door all the time. I don't know, man. I think it's actually like a lot of you. It's definitely got a romantic quality to what we also have to remember to Las Vegas is not very far away from Area, 51. So true, there is true. There's there could be a plethora of things. I'm not saying something got out but, you know, it's there could be a plethora of things and reasons why Vegas itself personally for me.

1:13:11 Every time I go there, I feel sick. I don't know if it's because of the energy, if it's a negative energy, And there's just lots of. Maybe it's the lights, maybe the but but more recently to, I believe it was was early April or late March. There was a triangular UFO sighting over one of the casinos opens, well in Vegas. So there's just some, some activity in Vegas. But I'd like to Second what you said about this. I forget the kid's name, I believe it starts with an A, I feel like a dick not remembering it, but definitely some fear. And if there wasn't any, if there wasn't here, then this kid is a wonderful actor and they Are very good at faking things that are multifaceted from Las Vegas. Las Vegas Metro Police Department to their own personal stuff.

1:13:59 So this is like you said, yeah, this could this could be like our Flatwoods Monster, you know our yes our big case that we Flatwoods Monster Dover Demon. I mean this has all the markings of that stuff. You mean Dover Demon was seen by think two or three different groups of people. Flatwoods Monster. I roughly the same, right? Maybe even less. Yeah, that's a good point. That is, that is a good comparison. I like that. You also have bodies claimed to be seen in Brazil, with was it? James, Fox's, new documentary, about the I forget the name of the town in Brazil, but they had seen small bodies with eyes and gills and slits.

1:14:49 And oh, you know, it's a pretty compelling story. Check it out. If you haven't, there's Do you know the name of it? Give me one second. I'll find it. I really don't know what else to say here. yeah, so it was called moment of contact. oh, Moment of contact moment. A contact that moment of contact that is it was the 1996 crash from Virginia. Brazil, Virgina Brazil. I just did an episode on it. Yep. Yep. I was going to say that sounds really familiar.

1:15:29 I watch that as part of my research for the episode. Yeah, very good stuff. It was a British British documentary, right? I believe so I haven't watched it yet. I'd like, Two, very good stuff. Very good stuff. Highly recommended it. I highly recommend it. Sorry, can't speak today. Highly recommend it to anybody that thought that the Virgina Brazil episode that I did was interesting. I mean, Nobody's going to break it down. Better than that documentary. Honestly, they did a really good job. That's it. Everybody that's all we got. Dave, I gotta get going, man.

1:16:10 I gotta pack and go on vacation tomorrow lucky. Yeah, I got to work first. But yeah, so Dave, you know, before we head out, go ahead and do the thing where you tell people about your stuff. Go for it. I'll do the thing. For those of you who have not heard my voice before I am Declassified. Dave I am 1/3 of the hush-hush society conspiracy. Our I have two other cohorts slick Von Sanders and mystery Mike, we cover very similar topics to the infant Rabbit Hole conspiracies, Cryptids fringe, science, True Crime, anything that's a weird. And if you haven't Open to us.

1:16:54 Check us out. You can find everything from our social media links to our video portions merchandise blogs, all the episodes at www.hud.gov Society.com. Nice dude. Well Dave, I like to extend one more things to you man. You're a trooper, dude. You come on the show all the time for me, I really do appreciate that. Yeah, thanks for having me on. I'm in the past, the present the future and always make it work. Well, we'll see how big you get we met. We may get two small over here in the infinite rabbit, hole for you. But all right. Yeah, that's that's it everybody.

1:17:35 Sorry for the awkward ending but it is what it is. You get what you get and hopefully we put together something for you. Technology sucks. Yeah, technology does suck. Does absolutely suck. Let's see. What did I how do they end it? Oh, that's right. So for anybody listening in today, stay tuned. I just made the decision today to change the format one more time, slightly more Of release schedules. So we're going to start dropping episodes every Friday. Again, I've got enough built up. I was just looking at it today and I was like, why am I doing this? So sporadically, just drop them on Fridays for everybody, like we used to and enjoy.

1:18:16 So, there's that everybody. Hopefully, you know, you guys appreciate that and get to enjoy it next week, we'll be diving into the world of the whoa, Bigfoot, going into Bigfoot, mind speak, and the world of Push hard who's been on the show twice, already back-to-back episodes. Back in January 2021. I only know that because I had manipulated the schedule to where this episode was releasing on my birthday. It's a Bigfoot episode of had had to put it on my birthday. So Carter bull shark comes back for back another back-to-back set. And then after that, after that, after that, after that, we will do the next documentary series, which I announced at the end of the last one, which was, which was the Philadelphia Experiment.

1:19:13 Yep, aquatic ape Theory, everybody enjoy it. Yeah, sea monkey, it wasn't exactly what I thought it was. I went into this, a little ignorant, not gonna lie to you didn't really, I thought this was more of a proof of mermaids. It wasn't, this is a entire rewrite, the history of humankind and a lot of it really, really makes It's it really does. It's kind of stupid. How obvious some of this stuff is. I can't say that. I'm 100% a Believer but it makes a very compelling case and and you guys are going to enjoy that. But that's going to be from this point from when you're listening to it.

1:19:58 It's going to be three Fridays so it's already done. Sorry record is Hardy, edited it, everything else. But I got to get this episode out because this one's time-sensitive and then card did me a huge favor by coming on and Talking about some really cool stuff. So, I want to do him a solid and get his episodes out there as quick as I can. And that's it. Everybody Dave. Thanks man. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me. All right, well, that's been another episode of the infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. We'll see you next time. Bye. You got to do it. You have to you later, guys. There it is.

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