184. W.I.R.H. News 9/22/24: Two Moons, Immortality Elixir, AI, & Chats on Tik Tok and Death

0:12 Welcome to WIRH News as part of the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. Get ready for another episode of these guys trying desperately to bring you the news on current events in the realm of the unknown and unusual, but sadly get sidetracked talking about anything and everything else. Good luck travellers. Welcome back to the Infinite Rabbit hole. I'm your host, Jeremy, and today we don't know what we're talking about because we literally have nothing to talk about. I have something to talk about. You don't talk about may have. Something to talk about, but he also lazy so we don't really know.

0:54 No, I did. It's a mystery, everybody. It's one of the things that we will look into here in the infinite rabbit hole, whether Jake has something or not. What's up, Jake? Jeremy is usually the guy that everyone goes to for the things to talk about, but I'm I'm the one this time that's going to save the show from crumbling and imploding on itself like that Ocean gate freaking submarine last year. Rough. I found a video of them finding the pieces of it. That was crazy. They just released a whole bunch of footage of it. Yeah, it's pretty nuts. I saw that this morning. That's. Scary shit man, I couldn't imagine being in that position that would. Be will you be dead very fast.

1:36 You wouldn't. I don't think you'd have time to process being in that position. Yeah, still, still I don't. I feel bad for them. The memes that came out from it were pretty funny, but I do feel bad for them. Rough bro. Well, I mean, come on, military members, we laugh at death. I mean, it is what it is. We. Do we laugh at some pretty fucked up shit? I wouldn't be walking around talking about my 5 or my, you know, 10 year plan at work is to work here for a little bit and then one day have the Remington retirement plan. If I didn't have a dark into humor, you know? So yes, I just want to remind everybody if, if you tuned into the very early episodes of the rabbit hole, we, we are advocates for suicidal awareness. So that was, that was a joke.

2:27 It was, it was a terrible joke, absolutely awful. You should be, should be ashamed of yourself. I'm so ashamed, but I'm very ashamed. If you look at my face, you can see how ashamed I am. Jake, Jake and I take that stuff very seriously. So if you guys anybody, anybody who's having trouble, please reach out. 988. 988. It just last year became the national suicide hotline, and I think it's you press 2 if you're a veteran, but yeah, instead of 911 is obviously for emergencies, but 988 is for the National Suicide Prevention Hotline. Yeah, when I heard that, that that that made me happy, man. That's that's good stuff.

3:08 It did. I actually got to because I was on the suicide prevention team at work, so I got to announce that. So we did a whole thing for it at work. It was. It was pretty. Cool. Nice man. Good stuff. All right, moving on, let's get to Jeffrey. The late 1. So nice of you to. Show up. What's up, man? Yeah, I'm here. I made it. You're welcome. Hey, Kenzer's here. What's up, kids? Here. Thanks for showing up at the live Shadow Band show the other day. I appreciate that. That was fun. Yeah, I'm here. I saw Beetlejuice a little while ago. We went to the movie theater. Garbage. It was all right. It was OK, right? But the movie theater we went to is nice. They had electric reclining seats.

3:49 Did they have food delivered? No, but it was this completely self-serve movie theater, like the drink kiosk. You get your own cup, you get your own drink, you get your own candy, you just pay everything out. They completely eliminated the need for human beings in this building and it's amazing. I love. It there was there was a theater back in Gosh. Norfolk. It was, it was Virginia's where, yeah, where you could the same thing. Big old, like like LA Z boy recliners, they recline back, it's all electronic. And then you could order food. So they'd come deliver you like a 30 oz beer, huge mug that you got to take home with you. We have like a dozen of these things and then like all types of food.

4:33 So like burgers, fries, whatever you wanted, you know, like all types of finger foods, appetizers. And so me and Whitney would Uber over there and we would, we'd make it a date night so we could drink and not have to worry about driving and stuff. It was, it was pretty dope. I wish that there was more of those theaters all over the place. It was really. Cool. There's another one here in Orlando that is like a has tables and you sit down at it like around, you know, like and yeah, it's the same type of thing. It's like a dine in, like an actual restaurant with the movie theater. It's pretty sick. But yeah, the one I went to was nice. It was cheap. It was like 12 like. Going to a comedy show, essentially. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

5:14 So that's what I did today. I got a couple things we might talk about today as well, but nice, you know, that's it. Those are going to be more of an impromptu news episode. These are my favorite. We're going to get back into the infinite rabbit hole news thing. Swing of things. I was supposed to do some research today on some stuff but I didn't because I was at work and I had to work and scum. Oh, babe. Can you share one? Of the lives in like a worse places people ever. Send it to them. But Josie is 1. I guess what we'll we'll talk about first is what I shared into the Facebook page, Yes. Can I have my introduction to you scumbag? OK, Jake, how are you?

5:58 Dude, it was it was a great day today. It was nice and cool. Whitney and I went to church this morning, so I rode my motorcycle to church and then I treated both of us to Culver's afterwards. Culver's is just, it's so good. It's so good. But yeah, really pretty day. And then did some chores around the house and then I spent a couple hours out in the backyard 'cause we got 8 acres that are all wooded. I was squirrel hunting and right now I think the timer went off. Whitney is finishing up the squirrel Stew that I made. So instead of rabbit Stew, I use the same recipe, but I did squirrel instead. So much smaller pieces. But we're it's going to be tonight's going to be the first time she and I both try squirrel to find out if this is worth it.

6:45 But yeah, it's a small game season opened up here maybe a week ago on this. Yeah, last Monday. And then, and then we have fall Turkey season opened up as well. And I actually heard a couple gobblers out there just like making all their racket and stuff like that. So I'm going to be going out there tomorrow morning early, early, early before the sun comes up, sitting in the spot and waiting for the turkeys. Because so Whitney and I have been on the offseason, have been baiting the same spots for, I don't know, six months or something like that consistently every week to see what we could get on our game trail cameras.

7:26 Well, because of that, just to see what was in the area, but because of that, all the animals have been coming into the same spots and kind of poking around and looking. So because we're not baiting anymore, because it's actual hunting season, I'm hoping that something's going to come in to check it out and I can just, you know, get it. But yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm pretty stoked about it. But yeah, it was a it was a great day today. Kind of had a chill weekend. Not much going on, but yeah. Nice. Pretty cool. Oh, and then also for the fans, you can see this creepy looking molest Ash that I have on my face. So my younger brother, I have three brothers, Mason, Grayson and Justin. Justin's the oldest Grayson and I, he's my step brother. We're like two months apart.

8:13 And then Masons are my youngest brother. He's 11 years younger than me, but he he challenged us all to a mustache growing competition. Whoever can grow the craziest, bushiest, most disgusting looking mustache. So essentially for the entirety of the fall and winter season, I'm going to grow my mustache and not trim it at all. So it's going to get freaking crazy. So I don't know if I'm going to make make it into a handlebar and then come along the sides, you know, who knows, but it's going to get freaking nuts. So whoever is watching these live streams are our our episodes is in for a treat I guess. Hopefully I'll be able to eat food still. Yeah, we'll see.

8:58 Or maybe you won't. Maybe I won't. Maybe you'll. Start waxing it flying. Around in here, dude. So if you guys, you too swatting around at nothing, I swear I'm not crazy. There's actually a mosquito. Yeah, I got it. Is definitely crazy, but it's also a mosquito all. Right. You guys look over. I'm just like. Yeah. Well, I have news of myself real quick. Jeremy So tell tell me about yourself. How are you I? Don't think I've ever announced this on Infinite Rabbit Hole yet, but starting starting January 15th of this year, I went on a a journey to lose a ton of weight. Oh yeah, you did? Yeah, I did. You're looking good, dude. I I've lost 70 lbs since January 15th.

9:42 That's good bro, that's sick. Yeah, I can't see it. Delicious because of his beard. Yeah, but you could see it in my belly. No, he looks, he looks really good. I I go over all the time and he looks great. My wife will not keep. Her hands off me now. Congratulations bro, I'm proud of you. Thanks. Man appreciate you. I'm about to. He lost. He lost 70 lbs since January. Yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. We're actually talking about getting like a little workout station set up in the living room. We're going to not get a couch. We're just going to get a workout station. Dude you're going to be bald and buff. I'm going to be ripped bro. I'm going to be jacked. I got. Some I got. Some links to send you I, I, I set up a little station down here in my basement. Send me your links. I got you.

10:24 I got. You I'll do it after. This. I've gained 30 lbs of muscle since I've gotten out of the military. It's crazy in January. And I did not. I gained too much weight since I've been out of the military. Now I'm trying to get it back. Never know, could get drafted soon. Actually, I don't think I can, but he's. Not gonna get drafted. 100% disability. Yeah, let's take him. No. Yeah. You're a liability if anything. Anyways, we're 17 minutes into this recording. Excuse me, let's let's bring up the 1st. One, you're already approved. 1st. It's already approved. First one, sorry to try to bring it up. So the other day, I can't remember if it was yesterday or the day before, but I posted a link in Facebook in the Facebook group. Anybody that's in here that's not a part of the Facebook group, you need to go be a part of that if you have a Facebook because I also just found out that we are a private group. I think that's something we changed while back because people kept posting porn all over it. Yeah.

11:26 So we had that, that funny meme page or whatever it was and, and we had a bunch of bots posting porn in it. And actually CJ brought it up to me. And so I had to eliminate all those members and then put us in a private group status with questions or something like that to prevent the bots from getting in because that's, I'm not going to stand for that crap. So if you guys want all the all the current stuff for infant rabbit hole that's the best place to go is for Facebook. I'm working on trying to update the other socials more but I'm terrible for it. Like really bad. We need somebody just for socials because I'm I'm awful. But anyways, I did. I posted a link to an article and this is probably old news to some of you guys now, but this is our chance to talk about it.

12:13 Starting September 29th and for two months, we will have a second moon in the sky. Or 1/3 moon depending on who you ask. Or 1/3 moon, but we'll we'll have a second one, a visible moon. Jeff, how's your Project Bluebeam vibes going, dude? I didn't even really think about that. I I want to know more about see, I didn't look this up. I saw like a headline about this. I saw a couple posts floating around. I saw you post it, but I never looked into it. So I. Looked into it. I want to know more about this because I OK, so like a red, like one line and it was like, oh, it's going to be like 2 million miles away and it's like a tiny little object.

12:58 And I'm like, is that the case? OK, so here's the thing. So a moon is just a big rock that orbits a planet, right? Correct. Yeah. We're going to have a meteor that is going to be or an asteroid or something like that, but I think it's a meteor that's going to be circling us for a little bit and then it's going to shoot off back towards the sun or something like that. So basically it's going to be like, I, I don't know how bright it's going to be, but it's going to be a moon in the fact that it's going to be orbiting us and then shooting off and that it's not going to come back for another like 3035 years or something like that. So sure, it's not anything crazy like we're going to be seeing like another like big old moon in the sky, but it's going to be orbiting us.

13:46 So it's going to be a bright light in the sky. Well, I assume that's. All it is. I I assume that that was the case already. Now the question is, is it going to be visible to the naked eye? I hope so. And and how big is it and how far away is it? Those, I mean, they'd be pretty dope if it's visible to the naked eye and Oh yeah, like, you know, like the Hale bot comet coming around or something like that. That'd be that'd be cool to see, certainly. Astronomical events are awesome, right? Any, anything that's just like, massive. It doesn't even have to be astronomical. I love blood. Moons, you know, like the red moons and things like that. Every time we get a a solar or lunar clips, those are so cool.

14:29 You know, this makes me think about the Thunderbolts project and the Electric Universe a little bit actually. And there's a, a video you can look up on YouTube if you search Thunderbolts project, symbols of an ancient sky. OK, it's like an hour long documentary. And these guys put together using like plasma research that they've been doing for a few years, right? The electric universe science that they're doing, they're basically showing, hey, this is possibly what the ancient people saw in the sky over like long periods of time as the celestial bodies like we're moving around when they were like closer together and like more aligned and causing like plasmic discharges between planets, right?

15:19 Like crazy shit that that our ancestors would have seen in the sky in these. And they kind of put it in the perspective like, how would this look from the Earth's perspective? Like how would this plasmic discharge from Mars to Jupiter or whatever the case might be, how would that look from the Earth's perspective, Right. And it shows how it could be. How they, how do I explain this? They represented these symbols they were seeing in the sky in like the hieroglyphs in Egypt, like some of the headdresses that the Pharaohs were wearing and stuff that like kind of went back with the ball behind it. Like from our perspective, based off of their little laboratory plasma stuff, they're like this.

16:00 Would this looks like this, right? It looks like this thing. It looks like that. It looks like this cave drawing looks like all these things. So it's kind of interesting. It has nothing to really do with the second moon, but what you were just talking about before that kind of made me think about this. Well. It's dope. I I've had this Electric Universe book since the very beginning of Infinite Rabbit Hole and. Who wrote that? Wallace Thornhill and David Talbot. Yeah, Talbot and Thornhill. OK, Yeah, cool. Yeah. Those are the guys who who made that video. So you should watch that. You should find that video. Yeah, I'll probably just read the book, but anyways, thanks man. Sure man, I found a video that says Wall Thornhill is a complete fraud.

16:43 Thunderbolt Thunderbolts project debunked before long. See. Well, they always. Got his source? They always debunk, they always debunk things that they don't want you to look at, right? Like if, if they don't want people researching or being interested in something like this, of course they're going to come out and be like, that's been debunked. We've debunked. That well, yes, So that is the thing that does happen. Well, to kind of expand a little bit, it is an asteroid. They titled it 2024 PT 5. What the fuck that stands for I have no idea. Wow. What a what a extravagant name they should have been like. It's Dave.

17:26 Dave's coming. Yeah, watch out. Here comes Dave. Yeah, I don't really have much else to say about that. I think it's pretty neat. I find it very strange. I don't fully understand it like at all, but. I I swear every place I've ever lived has had overcast skies during every single astronomical event that's ever happened. Like any blood moon, any eclipse, overcast skies. So if we get a single clear night where I can actually see it, that'd be really. Cool. Nope, we're going to get two months of overcast. Yeah, I believe it.

18:08 But the the asteroid will be coming in and we'll be able to see it starting September 29th and it will leave us November 25th, so. Right right around the time of fall Turkey season. Very nice. Pretty pretty cool time to see some history. Everybody wait when, When does it come? Say it again, when is the date shows up? The 29th, so 7 a week, week from now. So man, what if like some people know this reference, but what if like this October surprise is like this asteroid flying through and it like drops off some like bug spores and then it's a straight. Start what? What? Actors are we got.

18:49 Some hell divers stuff going on now, huh? What October surprise you talking about, dude? I don't know, there's people talking about some shit may go down in October, but they've been talking about this for, you know, to be honest with you ever since Q Anon. It's kind of goes back to Q Anon. There's AQ Anon thing that I don't know if it's the same kind of prediction or whatever the case, but you know. So I've I've also been hearing some stuff about October. I just wanted to to hear what you had to say. I don't know, I, I, to be honest with you, I haven't really been keeping up with stuff like I should be, right? I've been kind of tuned out of a lot of stuff, but you know, I've been hearing it for a few years, you know, this October surprise.

19:33 And like I remember a couple years ago I was like, it was October and I was like, oh, is something sketchy going to happen in October? Nothing really happened. So every October now, for the last two or three years at least, it's been like this thing. Well, it seems like it's every other weekend something big supposed to happen. You know, I, I, I watch. Well, something big does happen every other weekend. I mean, shoot. Yeah, but it's never what they say, right? So I, I, of course, I watch a ton of TikTok. I watch it fuck ton of it. And personally, I, I, I like TikTok a lot. I think it's, it's very important for us to have. It's a good tool. With that being said, there's a lot of shit on TikTok that you have to weed out because some of it is just the stupidest shit you'll ever hear in your life or see now. With if you, if you have the sense to eliminate all that stupid shit and you watch some of the stuff, especially like the, the stuff that's happening around the world that we're not getting in mainstream media.

20:37 I think that's like one of the, that's honestly one of the absolute best things that you can get from TikTok because there's, there's a lot of stuff going on around the world that we're not being told about. And we're at, there's an active, there's an active push to keep it away from us. Jeff, you know what I'm talking about. Right. Not just keep it away from us, but like dilute or like misinform. Yeah, so. Like which is even. Worse, for example, right there, there was the, the was Aurora Co, right? The the migrants who were holding up the, the hotel with AR styled AR style weaponry. And the, the news stations would show you clips of talking to the Police Department chief or whatever and him being like, yeah, there's nothing here. We're all good.

21:31 Or the mayor, right? And they'll be like, yeah, we're all good. But then you go on TikTok and you get people that are from this area. They're they're showing you their, their address. They're, they're showing you they're, they're driving by the hotel where this is happening at and you're seeing all this stuff, right. So the the there isn't there is an active push to. Yeah, well, there there is people reporting on it, right. If you look and and like I saw today that some gangs are actually like duking it out now with these in Chicago, you know, with this. Yeah. So but who knows, man. I, we were talking about this on Shadow Man the other night. Everything. First of all, everything is a lie. All the information you're getting is a lie. You guys saw that thing from the sphere, The subliminal message which which I found out is apparently just like an advertisement for AU2 concert, but. That's that's how they throw it at you though. The band they they.

22:22 Like doesn't take away from the fact. We're like 10 years ago, U2 uploaded their new album onto every Apple user's phones. I remember something, something weird like that, yeah. Scum, Yeah, I don't. Remember that but never had an apple? Phone you know, that's a you know, it doesn't take away from the fact that like anybody who's conspiratorial minded is going to understand that the pop culture and these these pop idols, right, they're all puppets in the same play. So of course they're going to use this type of stuff to put the information. But you know, in that simple amount of messaging was like everything you know is a lie and all this stuff social media is the don't trust. Your lying eyes and ears, yeah. All kinds of stuff, right? So who knows what's really happening, but stuff is happening such at such a a fast pace that when you don't have something happen for a day or two, it's weird.

23:15 Yeah, and that's weird. I just, I don't know man, go. We're back when we were kids when news would be like 2 hours long. Yeah. And that was it. It's like, here's what's going on in the world, here's what's going on locally. All right, that's it. But OK, so if, if we're going to go down this rabbit hole, right, we, we were, we were further in the dark back then than we are now, right there isn't there is an active push to keep us in the dark as much as they possibly can. Back then when, when we had just cable television and we had to tune in at 6:00 to to watch the news and we can only watch the weather on like let's the nines, right, Weather on the nines or something like that.

23:57 And then 60 minutes followed and that was it. And. And that's it. That's all you got. You didn't have access to, you know, all of these other minor, multi minor medias and, and whatnot social medias. And you have this big push by all the big social medias to, to filter out and censor what is being said on there. And, and I mean, right now Twitter or X is going through this massive, huge issue right now. And we're not, well, you know, I'm not going to dive into any political stuff, but there's some, there's some, you know, really horrible things that have been said as of recently about Twitter and how they should or we should or they or whatever should control what is being said and done on Twitter. Right, well, they're trying to ban TikTok still, there's still bills floating around for them to to ban TikTok and everything. They they don't want this social media. No, they don't, you know, and you know, there's a lot of people out there that hate TikTok, right? And I, I know, I know a ton of them and I just, I just don't understand it because I, it is one of the biggest tools for free speech that that we have access to. And like I said, you just have to be able to filter through all the dumb shit that's on there.

25:13 There is a lot of it, but if you, if you look and you watch for the stuff that literally cannot be faked, you know, somebody is just, it's, it's a, it's a screen with some trees in the background and it just has text and tells you something and you're like, oh shit, if that's real, that's fucked. It's probably not real, right? But if somebody's literally showing you footage of, of being on the ground where something is happening, it might be something you might want to pay attention to, right? And now everybody's talking about it and there's new footage coming in because I'm not going to lie, right when the assassination attempt happened on Trump Twitter or TikTok had all of the shit that is, that's still coming out about it like an hour after it happened.

25:55 Like they they had every. I remember back with with COVID, there was a lot of that. There was a lot of videos coming out of China. The. Problem is, is that TikTok isn't free and clear either because I follow a lot of Christian media and you know, what happened to the dinosaurs and things like that, blah, blah, blah. All this sort of stuff or explanations of, you know, vague or symbolic, you know, verses and things like that. Well, all of these things eventually like I'll, I'll put, I'll save them or I'll put them in my folder. Whatever you do, you bookmark them and they get removed within a couple days. So they're deleted and it all that stuff's gone. So I end up deleting my TikTok because it's like, you know, if it's being controlled by China, China's super anti Christian. So all that stuff ends up getting banned off of there, you know, after a couple days.

26:49 So it's like, it's not even a perfect free speech thing. So it's like nothing, you know? Nowhere is nothing is. I mean, if you think, if you really want to get down to it, the infrastructure of the Internet, right, was created like DARPA had a hand in creating that. So there's nothing that's totally free about the information we're getting from the Internet. All of it is the real problem is that you're, the algorithms are going to feed you the bubble in which it wants to feed you. The divide and conquer is like on an individual level, we all live in our individual realities based off of the information we're getting through our own algorithms. So we're all living in our own realities, which is wild, which is why you see these man on the street videos and people go out and interview people and you watch it without whatever side you're on. There's videos from both sides and you're just mind blown at like the answers and responses they're getting from these people are interviewing.

27:44 And like, how can people even think this? Because, well, they have their own reality, their own algos. Algos like an ancient Roman or ancient Greek God too, which has something to do with something wild. I don't know. Let me look that up. Because algo is a is a thing. Doing the word play thing in everybody. Yeah, it's one of those word magic things. It turns him on. Worshipping the worshipping the entity of Algo. Anyways, no, Jake, I, I'm not at all saying that it's perfect, not at all. But I, I feel like it's one of the, the last platforms that we'll ever have where there can be any form of free speech, even if it's temporary, even. I mean, there's stuff that I bookmarked that has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, right?

28:25 It's all the conspiracy stuff And, and, you know, very interesting, even interesting videos of Bigfoot, right? Stuff that I'm like, man, why is this not anywhere else gets deleted off TikTok. I mean, you know, it's. Well, and here's the part about free speech that people don't like. Free speech includes things that you don't agree with. So I'm super against abortion, right? But free speech includes people saying I have the right to kill my baby, right? And that's just, that's the way it is. Free speech includes people that say that Christianity is a sham and it's all a plot to get you to shut up and be quiet.

29:11 Like, you know, I don't like that, but that's free speech. Hate speech, which doesn't exist is free speech, right? Being able to say, if you have hate in your heart against a certain race, that's free speech. Being able to say what is on your mind. Now, it might be awful, it might be disgusting and people might not like it, but that's part of free speech. So if you were to have a platform that had total free speech, you would have all flavors of people. You'd have people on there saying things against Christians. You'd have people saying things against Jews, against Muslims, against Mormons, against Catholics, against all these other various religious groups, Hindus, you know, freaking, I don't know, whatever, right?

29:59 So you'd have all these different groups, the Flying Spaghetti Monster group, you know, all these sorts of groups you've had, you'd have people that were racist, you'd have people that weren't racist, you'd have people that you know, were nationalists or not nationalists, you know, all these different groups. And it they would be allowed to say what they want to say without the fear of being cancelled or de platformed or whatever it was. TikTok isn't that. And they'll probably because of the current climate, never be that. But that's what free speech is, you know, it's, it's Republicans, it's Democrats, independents, it's whatever, it's communists, it's Marxists, it's socialists, all everyone having their own voice and being able to say what they want to say. And just like Jeff said, the algorithm would tailor that to whatever it is.

30:49 So if I get only stuff from Matt Walsh and I get only stuff from Turning Point USA or, you know, whatever it is, you know, it's because of the algorithm. It knows when I'm looking up and what I'm viewing and things like that. We're all in our own bubble, just like Jeff said, you know, living our own lives completely it goes. So much deeper than than just that actually man. Like honestly, like even the comment, I learned this recently, even the comment sections are tailored to you based off of the algorithms. So like, let's say you go watch a video that you may let's just assume would think is ridiculous, right? Like it's an interview between two people and you automatically are going to be like, yeah, that guy's going to be he's going to lose that one, right?

31:35 And like the comments will literally show overwhelmingly like in favor of your own opinion, right? So like the comments be like, oh, he was trash, he got cooked, Whatever it is, whatever it is. And you just. Have to select constantly the all comments button. It well, I don't even know that that will change it to where you're actually seeing it where, because if you went to somebody who else had like an opposite algorithm of you, like their comment section on the same video is going to be totally different than than that, right? And it's not even just feeding you stuff based off of what you're watching. It's feeding you stuff based off of so much data. I mean, they're collecting so much biometric data. Like Facebook knows when you're taking a shit. It knows what you're looking at. It knows when your pupils are dilating. So what's exciting you?

32:17 You don't have to talk about stuff. People are like, oh, listen to me talk about that ad that time. And you hear people talk about I, I didn't even say it out loud. I was just thinking about the thing the one time. Well, that's because you probably saw it in, in somewhere and your eyes attracted to it for a millisecond longer than average and your pupils dilated a little bigger than average. And it calculated that and it fed you some information And it was like, here you go. Here's an ad on a a new cooler that you didn't even know you looked at this. Is on a Sean Ryan show podcast episode. Great. Show by the way. Yeah, it is a great show. I knew about some of this. That like the eye tracking stuff. I knew about that in like 2012. I think I knew about that. That's probably the earliest I found out. I just want to backtrack just a just a bit right Jake, I don't fully agree and most with what well, just that there is no hate speech.

33:09 I definitely think there there is hate speech, whether it's free speech. Or not made a perm for people's getting their feelings hurt. I mean, I, yeah, but I mean, I don't know, man. I've, I've heard some pretty hurtful shit. I mean, not, yeah. But that's not illegal. No, it's, it's not, it's, it's not illegal. But they're treating it as if it's illegal, so the the term. That's true. That's true. The term that's used to put legal actions against someone for using the words from the content of their hearts. Fair. Right, fair. But if you look at the if you look at the compound word, hate speech, right? 2-2 words making one word and you look at each word individually. Hate and speech.

33:50 You don't put it in the context of, you know, whatever the, the, the modern definition is of it, it's just hateful speech, right? But see, I actually would have I would have to agree with. I have a pretty hard stance on this as well. Like, to me, there's no such thing as hate speech in the context of like a free speech discussion. You either have free speech or you don't have free speech. And we already have laws in place against things like calling for violent action against people and like slandering people and like all these types of things that you could use speech for, to, to like harm somebody, right? So we already have those laws in place using something like the term hate speech. The problem with that is is like who is the arbiter of the definition of hate speech?

34:39 What is hate speech? Give me an example of something that is hate speech that somebody else might not think is hate speech, or that they may have that is hate speech right for. Example, a Muslim could say there is no way to the afterlife except through a law, and I could say there is no way to the afterlife except through Jesus. And someone could listen to that and say one of those is hate speech because there's all these other world religions, right? Who's the person who decides what's hate speech? So, all right, maybe I'm just ignorant here, right? Maybe so it's. It's not. It's not. No, it's fine.

35:20 It's it's clear to me. No. Yeah, my. Question is, my question is yeah. Is this term hate speech actually illegal? Is it something that you can be tried for? Is it something that you can be punished for? Other than just by your. Peers Other than just by your peers, can you legally be charged for hate speech? Yes, it depends on where you are. This is why Jordan Peterson became famous, right? Jordan Peterson became famous because of what was a beast. I forget the number, right, But whatever the bill was in Canada where you could literally be tried for hate speech. You could be tried for something such as like misgendering somebody, like purposely misgendering somebody. And there was a another, there was other things on that list. That's just the example I can think of, right? And that's why he he stood his ground. I was like, I don't agree with this. He was like in polite, in politeness, I will do this right?

36:14 In polite company, I will refer to you as as the gender you like to be identified as. But as a professor, right, in social sciences and a public setting on the record, I cannot go along with this, right? So that was why he blew up. So free speech is, I think we're all on the same page with free speech, right? And I understand what you're saying. Free speech or hate speech is free speech and, and and the whatnot, right? I get it. Yeah, totally understand. I I, I'm not citing and saying that hate speech is, is acceptable whatsoever. I'm just, I was literally just saying that it exists. It's a thing, I mean.

36:58 You can, you can be hateful, you can say things that are hateful. You can have hateful speech in a sense that like, you know, you could call for violence, I guess in a sense, and in a way that would be hateful speech, right? But like the problem always comes back to like you have to be able to clearly define what it is that you're especially if you're going to try somebody for something, right? You what? Give me a clear definition of hate speech, right? And if you give me that clear definition, fine. Let me let me see if there's a way that I can come to a logical, you know, why is that bullshit, right? Yeah. And if you've got like a definition of what is hate speech and are an example like, let's go. But anyway, it, it, yeah, it that platform will never exist, especially today and going forward from today, it will never exist because because people get their feelers hurt too much.

37:52 And, you know, it's just like if I said that that abortion is, is murdering babies, someone listening is going to get their feelings hurt, be like, oh, it's a fetus. And I'd say, why are you speaking Latin? Because Latin is just a, it's just a, a word for a unborn offspring like that, you know, it's just like, but, but someone's going to get their feelers hurt, right? And so they label it as hate speech and blah, blah, all this sort of stuff. And I'm offended. So that means this person has to lose everything that they they have and they own and their job and all that sort of stuff. But that platform will never exist. Now TikTok is pretty close to that.

38:32 Obviously there's problems, but we certainly hear a lot more through TikTok because it's not as restrictive as YouTube and it's people uploading it. Unless they're like those weird videos where they kind of have their face in the corner and they're like, you know, you know, at the video or whatever. It's, it's more likely people shooting things that they see happening at the moment, which is like way better than what you'd ever get in the news. Because even in the news, like I, I just saw a story today or like a, a meme today where they're like, how could you trust anything they say to you? And it was, well, it was CNN, but they were at a hurricane site and they were literally standing in a puddle with waders on up to their waist or higher, right, like mid chest level.

39:23 And they're doing their thing. And then on the outside of that, there's people walking around on the actual street where they're in maybe ankle deep water. And it's just like, how could you ever trust anything they're saying to you, Right. And it was just like, yeah, I mean. That even the even like the the man on the street videos you're getting from TikTok or whatever, right? First of all, the problem with that is you're not getting any context and you're not getting any like you're you're getting the eyewitness version of like an event happening, but you're not getting the back end information on what is happening and why. And I think everybody like forgets the that we have a thing called like agent provocateurs. We forget the fact that like the CIA and intelligent, different intelligence agencies have in the past for a fact infiltrated like counterculture movements to cause violence to have.

40:15 You know, the crackdown happened, right? This has happened before. And then this happens through history. So when we see like events happen and we see like some TikTok shorts and we see some videos of like, oh, man, like this thing's going down. We still don't know, like, OK, but what really is going down? And I think that that's another problem that we have is like the everything we know is a lie. This goes back to like the subliminal messaging from the sphere. Like there's no way that you can get information from the Internet and decipher what the truth is. I and I truly. Believe that. I think I personally think that TikTok is a is something that once the government wins and we lose it, it's going to really suck. Yeah, that's going to be a huge step towards George Orwell's 19, 1984.

40:59 I wonder if they've already got that. I mean, they're all this talk with AI and like they're kind of already fear mongering and they have been for the last year, but they're really pushing it hard now. I've seen this a lot lately where where they're telling us, hey, look, in the next like one or two years, like AI is going to be so crazy that this and this and this and this. And like I actually have an article I was going to talk about tonight pulled up just to kind of transition to this for a second. But it says talking to a chat bot may weaken someone's belief in conspiracy theories. Like they've been testing AI chat bots. And like, obviously we all know that the AI chat bots are like biased in certain ways and like, they're, they're not as smart as we think they are. If you play with one, you realize like where it's still kind of like lacking in the in, in the intelligence thing, right?

41:45 But it's already pushing, like they're already pushing this thing. And this is on Science News dot org, right? They're talking about, you know, talking to AI chat bots is going to weaken your belief in conspiracy theories. So I don't know, to me, they've already kind of got this thing down with the AI and the internet's already taken over. I mean, everything is already run by AI. We were watching that show last night, the Bill Gates show that's on Netflix, on Netflix now. What's next? This Bill Gates show in the first episode is all about AI? And the guy's like, yeah, you guys don't even realize AI has been running everything for like 30 years. All kinds of shit, you know, autocorrect, you know, the stock market algorithms, you name it, AI has been running it.

42:31 So this whole idea like, oh, in two or three years, like we got to watch out for AI, Like no. Bro been there done that. Been there, done that, the information that deep fakes, like the public has their hands on the version of deep fakes that I think we can still all see. And there's like that uncanny valley thing where it's like, oh, it's, it's too weird to be real. I don't know man, some of these defects like the the AI voices are crazy good like. Some of these. Guys saw that, I'm sure you saw that freaking parody Kamala Harris ad that went out where they they actually did some of like her quotes and stuff, but most of it was just the AI voice imitating her. Yeah, that.

43:14 Was one of the main reasons that Gavin that Gavin Newsock put that put that every second. In California, yeah. But it was just like, it was Dang good. Like it was a, it sounded like her. It had her mannerisms down, It had her weird voice down, all that sort of stuff. And it was like, it's like, Dang, this is really good. And but the, the scary part is, is that if right now we've only had AI out to the public for a couple years, right? It started with imaging and then, you know, now we're getting some chat, ChatGPT and things like that. And now you can kind of deep fake sometimes a little bit, right, put a picture up, whatever. Some people have it better than others, But you know, I'm not throwing money at this thing.

44:02 So I, I don't, I only have what I have. But the scary part is that what I'm scared of when it comes to deep faking stuff or, or when it comes to AI is when it gets so good that someone could make a video and match your voice based off of, I don't know, a podcast of your voice and have you committing a crime on video. And have that be so good of proof that they could literally throw you in prison for it. Yeah, but video and imagery, photos and and video are, gosh, what do they call it? It's it's not the evidence you think it is. It's inconsequential.

44:45 Is that what it's called? Hold on. So they get some of your hair, put it at the crime scene. Have you shown on a security camera a couple blocks away at the exact same time? I'm just saying you have to do is just upload a little CP on your computer and they got you man. That's it. That's probably the one that'll get you. Easy, easy cake. That, that, that'll be the one that'll that'll. They back doored in. You have no idea it happened. It's all at the digital age, man. If you're a nobody if you're if you're nobody and you're not protecting your your stuff. I'll send over it since this is technically a news episode. Do we dare touch the ditty thing?

45:26 Dude A. 1000 bottles of baby oil. Somebody put this into blender so you could visualize it. It's a lot. It's a lot. Let me see if I can find it. I'll show you what 1000 bottles of baby oil looks like. And there are there are so many people that are going to go fucking down for this. And it's. I saw, I saw. Memes going down just like Epstein bro. I saw Meme. It was from Back to the Future where Marty was just like, Oh yeah, I've seen this episode, right? And they're like, how have you seen it? It just came out today, right? And it was it was that he was put into protective custody for psychiatric care or something like that.

46:10 And it was like, yeah, I've seen this one. It was a homage to Epstein. And I'm just like, Yep, Yep, seen it too. Yeah. All these whatever you call them. One of the freak outs I think was the the term that was used to describe these three day, you know, adult party is where they would drug night walkers and stuff. Yeah, I. Crazy. I I was, I was following something today and they were naming all these these celebrities are about to go down for this ditty thing and Oh yeah. And you're. Actually naming them. Oh yeah, that's. Crazy. Yep, they 2 Two of the names that I remember just right off the bat were like pink and pink, pink and Usher, right?

46:59 And they're like, whatever, I can't remember what I was. I was just like one of those things where like I was just fucked. Around name them all. I was just fucking around my phone and you know, somebody was like, hey, just go check all this shit out. You, you go to you go to Pink's Twitter right now. It's completely wiped. There's nothing on it whatsoever. Nice. And they were there's a lot of people like that. I was on TikTok earlier today. Speaking of TikTok and somebody had reposted a video of of Diddy reading off a list of names with like his child or something on on his lap and whole crap.

47:41 That's a lot of baby oil. There you go, this is what 1000 bottles of baby oil is. Is this what they found? And when they read why? Do you need that much baby oil? Well listen man, it adrenalin. To the swimming pool and swim in it. Adrenochrome is a hell of a drug man, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, so the the video that of, of Diddy having this kid read off all these names, the the person had proposed that this was a video that Diddy specifically put out to threaten anybody who had knowledge of what really happens at parties. So I mean, if you've listened to that list of names, it's huge, right?

48:23 And, and, you know, Pink's on there, Usher's on there, Kevin Hart is on there, who also showed up in, in one of the the videos in the trial. So Kevin Hart's fucking going down too. He was at one of the really bad parties, from what I understand. Yeah. And I, I just, I, I, I think it's messed up, man. Because you're not seeing this in the media, right? It's it's just not there. I mean, you can Google it and you can find an article about it, but you can't go click on like Fox News or CN NS website and find it on their homepage. It's not going to be there. They may touch on it here and there, but I mean, this is some pretty big fucking news, man.

49:08 And. Yeah, it's it's I. Hit it. I no, I I don't think this one's a distraction. I think that they're trying to distract you from it personally. You think so? Oh, yeah, absolutely. There's a lot of fucking money in this. Are you kidding me? What makes you think that they won't just Epstein him? No, I think they will. I think they will. They, they, they were talking about how he was on suicide watch a couple days ago. And I mean, I, I, I would hope that they have some independent party watching him because, because if it's not. Then yeah, he's no dude. And the words of the great and One and wise Tim Dylan guards are falling asleep as we speak. OK, that's literally man.

49:49 It's over. It's over. Yeah, it's a, it's I. Anzer says no, no, that video came out a long time ago. Apparently that baby on his nap is his, on his lap is his niece and he's listing people and he invited to a party. And that's the problem though. That's the problem. It's because these people are the ones that showed up to these parties is exactly what the problem is. Anyways, I I don't I don't know the whole. List my stuff. A what? Can I get into some infant or rabbit hole news like infant rabbit hole stuff? I guess if you want to get into some other. Stuff I know this is like the infant or rabbit hole, but it's it's going to be quick. All right, good, we can chat on it. All right, archaeologist recently on earth, a 2000 year old elixir for immortality.

50:33 And oh, by the way, this has a lot of non American names. So I'm going to do my best. But it is what it is. And a western Han nobles tomb in Henan Province, China. Initially thought to be wine, the bronze pot contained a yellow liquid made of potassium nitrate and alunite, both sided in ancient Taoist texts, as ingredients for achieving immortality. Potassium nitrate is a natural source of nitrate used in fertilizers and food preservation, while alunite, a mineral form through volcanic process, has been processes has been used for water purification and dying. Although neither ingredient extends life or improves health, this discovery marks the first time such as mythical immortality medicines have been found in China, according to XI Jiazen, head of the Institute of Cultural Relics in Archaeology in Luau Yang, Liu Yang, the ancient elites weren't alone in their quest for immortality.

51:43 The desire to stave off aging persists today. Modern methods, from advanced medical treatments to creams promising youthful skin, reflect our enduring wish to extend life. Some, like billionaire Brian Johnson, invests heavily in these pursuits, spending around $2,000,000 a year to appear and function like an 18 year old, sported by his team of 30 health experts. His experience, His experiments have included blood plasma transfusions from his son, although he stopped when he found no benefits. Current research indicates such methods may only work in mice. So obviously it didn't work because they're all dead, the people who made this.

52:27 But that's interesting that I guess our quest for youthfulness or to look youthful has existed for a long time, since just the vain people of today's age. But I mean. It's probably existed since humans have been self aware I would imagine since we are like understood what death was and what aging was I would imagine we've probably had some longing for. Youth, right? Yeah. I'm sorry, Kenzer's mad at me, she said. I didn't finish the sentence that the baby in his in his lap is his niece and he's listening.

53:09 He's listening people invited to a party or as or so they cover covered it up as. Yeah, yeah. I think it was just to cover, but to go back to the elixir. Yeah. I here here goes a hypothetical question, Jacob. I'm actually pretty sure I already know your answer, Jeffrey. If you, if there was an elixir of immortality, live forever, man, would you drink it? What's the what's the downsides? The downside is that you live forever, forever. But you could probably still be killed by like a car accident or. Get shot. I was going to say like, what is the level of immortality right this. Isn't like this, isn't like the Holy Grail from from Indiana Jones is.

53:55 It just like regenerative. It's just like self regenerate regenerative telomeres. Like I just don't age. I guess, I guess that it could be A2 tier question right one. The first question would be would you drink it if it literally stopped you from dying no matter what? And would you drink it if it only did? I get it, but I have a mosquito here too man, it's driving me. If it literally stopped me from dying no matter what, No, if it just stopped me from aging and I could live, you know, like until I had a catastrophic accident, Yeah. Yeah, I would live for a few 100 years, being pretty careful until something fucking got me right.

54:37 But living forever? No, because I, I want to go to the afterlife. I want to know that The thing is the thing, right? Jake, I'm pretty sure I know your answer. What's my answer? No, you would not drink it. I bet he says it's probably similar to mine. He he'd probably do something I. Don't think so. I think he wouldn't drink it at all. Because I know he would want to, he would want to go to heaven, but I feel like he would also probably enjoy like a couple 100 years of fucking around and finding out. No, no, I'm I'm definitely a a no drinking sort of guy. I a couple 100 years of paying bills and taxes. But the. Thing is, finding out how this all works out when we're enslaved by another nation, no. No, no, no.

55:20 See, The thing is, is if you have a few 100 years, right, like you can game the system in a type of way where, you know, give it 100 years or you live long, you're going to outlive everybody who's alive. So, you know, you could be at the top of the pile. So you're not going to be paying bills and taxes. You know, if anything, you might be the leader of the next Rothschild dynasty, right? The the you know so. Hey, we gained gained a new follower. No, I don't want to. I want to be. I don't want to be here for the for the what is it the the mountain, the in Revelation, the earthquake so big that it removes the mountains from the foundations. I don't want to be here for that. See, I wonder about that sometimes, right? I'm one that typically likes to believe in prophecies of all sorts just because if anything, at very least it's fun and interesting.

56:06 It's more fun than just like, sure, you know. But I do wonder, like, is that something that we're living in the end Times Now or soon? Or is it something that's still like another thousand years in the future? Or has it happened already and we're likely living in the aftermath? I wonder about this. Yeah, there's actually a sect of Christians that believe that we that the the end times happened back in the Roman occupation of Israel, which is interesting, but I don't really dig too far into that, but. I don't know anything about it. Could be right, I don't know well. Jesus said to repent and believe.

56:46 He didn't say repent, believe and have exact knowledge of eschatological events. And for people that don't know, that word means is the study of the end times. So it's not, you know, repent, believe, and then also know beyond a shadow of a doubt whether there is or is not a rapture or we're in the end times or is not, blah, blah. You know, the Antichrist is a person or a state or a country or whatever system, you know. But regardless, you know, Well, but yeah, no, I'm on team go home to Jesus when Jesus says it's my time to punch my card, you know? I'd like to you ever seen that show Altered Carbon?

57:28 No, I tried watching it and I couldn't. Couldn't get through the 1st episode. Real quick, check this out. So I, I had to rationalize this for myself at some point. So if God is real and the God of the Bible is, is God right? And he knows the amount of hairs in your head. For Jeff, it's a lot fewer than the rest of us, but he knows the amount of hairs on your head. He knows the days of your life. He knows exactly when you were born. He knows exactly when you're going to die because it's outside of time. He's already seen it happen. Then regardless of your decisions or what you think are your, well, regardless of your decisions of if you're going to say I'm going to ride my motorcycle to church versus riding in the car with Whitney to church and you die, then there was no other way that you could have died that God wouldn't have known about.

58:24 So regardless of whether or not you took you drank the elixir or you didn't drink the elixir, God would know the exact number of your days and when you were going to punch out. Perhaps God knows you drink the elixir and decides 400 years, 420 years and 69 days from now is the day, for whatever reason, for whatever reason. Maybe, and that's, you know, you've worn out your purposefulness. I I, I personally don't take that in consideration. I am just absolutely terrified of death like. As you should. Terrified of it, yeah.

59:04 The Bible talks about people being scared. To death. I literally lose a ton of sleep over it like all the time I take as you should be take medication for it every day too. But anyways. You read that book. I got you that one time. No anyways. The one that has the answers for what happens after you die. You ever read that book? No. And it's not that important. To you. So I I would be the opposite of Sir Jeffrey there. I would only take it if it granted me immortality on a full scale. I would not take it if it only granted me good health. Would you share it with your family members? I would offer it, yeah, yeah, I would offer it when they got to a proper age to when they could make that decision.

59:48 I don't think like my oldest is 13. I don't think she would. Be hate speech. You want to be. 13 Listen. Listen. Man, listen man. That is hate speech you. Shut up. OK, You right there. Shut up. See, you see though. You see though, that's. Hate speech got me. I'm offended by what you. Just said the hate. Speech. Remove this man. Cancel him. I, I would either not drink it or I would only drink it under absolute pure immortality, like to the point to where we're in the, the, the solar death of, of the planet in the solar system. Yes, the heat death.

1:00:29 The heat death, right? It's coming. The sun goes supernova, it it or it swells up and and absorbs everything up to and including Mars and then blows up and I'm just floating around in space. I would I would accept it. I would accept it. No, This is why I chose not to drink it in that case, because if that happened you would still. You wouldn't lie. Bro, and now you're floating in the void through the rest of eternity until another rock floats by that maybe you can inhabit for a while. What's what's that movie? What's that movie with the guy who? No, what's that movie with the guy that's in love with the the volleyball? Castaway.

1:01:09 Castaway. It would be like Castaway and like no, I would show up on another planet and I would be except completely fucked Except. You would outlive. You would outlive the dying out of every star in the universe, and eventually you'd be floating in the void of nothingness for eternity. Which is worse? Which is worse probably than going to hell I assume. So I wouldn't. I don't know. Hell is described as absolute darkness. It's also described as frozen and not hot, which sounds terrible to me as a Floridian, but. Well, here up in the the Midwest, so I guess we don't share that, but. It's cold here. But you know what I'm saying, I would not want to be floating in the void of empty universe until.

1:01:54 Forever if if I left it open to where the only way I can die is if I get decapitated or something like along those lines, I wouldn't want to go that way. I just, I, I, I don't like, I, I don't want to be just, you know, taking a stroll through the Amazon and just get devoured by the, the a Titan Boa. That now of this. Extinction, right? I, I, I I want. This hypothetical immortality elixir also granted me like, you know, powers of like some kind of God, right? Like a Greek God or something like that. I can like traverse through the multiverses and sure, like, why not? But you know, no, at some point you got to meet the Architect. Interesting.

1:02:36 I don't know man. I I fear death man, like really bad. You should read that book. I got you. I don't remember what it was. It's, you know, there's a theory. Here's a theory that might come for you, Jeremy. A theory that I've always enjoyed is that with it's some kind of multiverse theory and and consciousness traversing multiverse is that in the instances in which you die instantaneously your consciousness shifts into another multiverse of yourself. So it's it's. Called the consciousness. Never. Continuous life theory. It's that you have died multiple times within your lifetime, but you always continue on the the dimension in which you survive that that encounter.

1:03:20 I can think of that theory was made-up by another person who's also scared of death. Probably, probably, probably. It was actually something that was. Interesting. Good. Good. No, I was just gonna say it's just an interesting theory to think about. It is, it is. And I was gonna cover it super early in the Infinite Rabbit Hole, but there's no books on it. There's absolutely. I mean, you could find some articles on that stuff. It's fucked up, man. Not. Not in their own world. In your I was gonna say in your reality, yes. But no, I that that's personally, I think that's a fairy tale, man. I don't think that's. So that would work out because in in another multiverse where instead of us having a podcast together, we're all plumbers in the same company.

1:04:06 You mean I get to see Jeff? 'S ass crack all the time. We well, I mean, come on. I mean, that's kind of like the whole thing of being a plumber with Jeff. But anyway, so Whitney says, I'm not afraid of death. I want to go home. I'm tired of paying taxes. Well, also you might have to pay taxes in a alternate dimension. But also they would have their own consciousness or their own soul, if you will. So how would you merge with one of them or kick them out and take over? Well, the first of all, The thing is we don't fully understand the complexities of consciousness or the soul or if there's a difference in the two. We don't, we don't necessarily know the answers to this, right? And this theory, I guess, you know, you have to also kind of make some assumptions, right?

1:04:58 Like I guess infinite universe multiverses is part of this. If Infinity is a weird thing, right? If there's an infinite number of multiverses or even if this universe is infinite, then that means that every possibility is happening somewhere, which means every like everything in this universe that we understand could be exactly the same, except one molecule could be shifted 1 molecules width away at one point in time. And that's the only difference in the entire expanse of the universe, right? So it's. Like. Your consciousness though at the same time you also have to make this other like new agey kind of assumption that there is this idea of either one consciousness or like your consciousness is creating reality or something like this.

1:05:46 Then maybe you could have like this. As soon as your consciousness ceases to exist, it automatically knows to shift into another, you know, biological suit that can hold that that code right that consciousness. Tensor No no slight against plumbers. No slight. If it wasn't for plumbers and auto mechanics and electricians and things like that, 80%, like the numbers are staggering as far as like an EMP attack. If all that stuff was gone, 80% of at least the United States would be dead in the first month because of starvation and sepsis and all sorts of stuff.

1:06:29 Not a slide against Kenzar for plumbers because she is a plumber, but. Everybody gives some clapping emojis for Kenzar if it if it exists. I don't. Know if it does or. Not. She plums, she plums good. She lays pipe like a plumber because she is one. I guess. I guess there's no clapping emoji in Twitch or whatever this is. What is this called? Is this? Is this an emoji? Is that what an emoji is? Yeah, like literally the only people that would be left alive are the people that are already like that are still using out houses and living off the land. So basically all the people in Appalachia. Yeah.

1:07:12 And that's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Which good on you guys, because you're going to be the only ones to survive because you know how. So I've, I've heard you say this multiple times and woman said it in the chat here. Tired of paying taxes. Is that is it? Is it so bad to that you're like, yeah, you know what? I'm ready to go just because you got to pay taxes. Oh, I'd die tonight if it was. If it was cool. You know what it is? It's not the fact, it's not the simple fact that we have to pay taxes. It's the the fact that the taxes get misused and misappropriated. I hate. That shit too, but it's still allows me to do cool shit, right? I get to sit here and do this podcast with you guys, which I love doing.

1:07:53 I get to read. Cool ass books. No, but if I didn't, if I didn't pay taxes, I wouldn't be able to do it. That's not necessarily. True, they would lock me up and I'd be living in a cell. Yeah, only only because they legislated that you have to pay taxes. But if they didn't do that, the, the, this is a, a myth that I, I, I really believe that this is a myth when people say like, if you have to pay taxes for the roads and such and such and such, that's bullshit because there's the, I feel like the private sector would pay for the infrastructure that we all rely on because the private sector would make a hell of money and they do a much better job, for instance, like let's say we stop paying taxes and there's no more taxes for. Roads. Guess what prison has books, Jeremy.

1:08:34 Guess what? Not good ones. Bezos, Jeff. People like people like Jeff Bezos are going to pitch in to make sure that the roads are good. Why? Because he wants to deliver packages. That's how he makes a shit load of money. People like Elon Musk are going to pitch in to make sure the roads are good. Why? Because he, he manufacturers cars. He's going to want to make sure the roads are decent for the fucking car. So there's going to be a, you know, we don't need this shit. We don't need taxes. And they just send $65 million a day to NASA and $80 million a week to the Taliban. So that's the fact that they're taking a couple $100 a week from me every. It's just bullshit. I'm not. I'm done. No, I, I totally, I totally think it's bullshit. It's, it's, it's robbery, it's legal robbery is what, you know, in my opinion.

1:09:18 I, I'm not a huge fan of, of paying taxes either. It is what it is to me. It's, it's the cost of living and it's, it's so ingrained into our, our lifestyle that you know, you, you, you don't really notice that it's happening to to answer whoa wins here. She says she wants to go to heaven. Jeremy, I don't know. I totally, totally get that. I totally get that. I just, I, I think that I, I would also like to go to a place such as heaven, but I would, I would like to enjoy this life too, you know, and I'm, I'm in no rush to, to, to leave. There's still a lot of stuff that I want to do here. And yeah, you know, when it, when it's my time, I'll, I'll gladly go. I'm just not trying to check out. It's not something I'm trying to race to your, your mics not on, Sir.

1:10:08 Yeah, I don't know. You're not. You're not muted either. Everybody. Jake is trying to talk right now and he cannot Boo. This man Boom. Boom boom, chat Jake back out and come back in dude. See if that works. Crystal. Crystal said. Boo got him. That's what I did. Woven says Boo. I can hear him too. I can hear him though. I'm going to. I'm going to have to go soon anyways, it's already 1035 here my. You're good, man. I dude, I, I was at work late today and I was getting really pissed off just because, you know, today was a pretty slow day. It's perfect, man.

1:10:56 Thank you. Matter. It was a pretty slow day and then all of a sudden, oh, OK, you go in. Why you booing me? Boo, Boo, Boo this man Boo. My shit works. I I I got a backup cable and everything. Knows because I, I went like this and I unplugged my mic and so it started a new, new thing for me. Boo me. So yeah, it's not the idea of heaven isn't so great that I'm going to like shoot myself in the face and just close it close up shop because of it. You know it obviously I have a reason to be here, right? But it's just like, you know, the divine hope we have because it's a promise of, you know, what's after this.

1:11:42 And it's supposed to be so great that no eye has seen or no ear has heard the things that God has prepared for us. So as great as this place may be in my horribly messed up back and my shoulders and my knees and my ankles that are all blown out and having to pay bills and taxes and having to work for a living and all that sort of stuff, we could be somewhere else. Which is so much better than this and doesn't include any of that horrible stuff that makes life suck, right? So it's definitely something to look forward to. But I still have a purpose and God has a plan for my life that I have to fulfill.

1:12:25 And maybe it's not what I think it is. And, you know, I, I would like to be in a teaching role at church one day. And I know I've got some behaviors, you know, everyone seems to be vaping on here. I've got some behaviors that aren't, you know, don't align with that. But maybe it's not that. Maybe it's talking to one guy at one point in my life where he's struggling in his faith. And I say that thing that God tells me to say to him, and then I get slammed by a car and wake up in heaven. Like that's like, that's the whole thing. And it happens when I'm 35. Who knows? I don't know, right? Yeah. I'm getting an alert saying that you have Riverside open and other tabs.

1:13:07 You have two tabs open with Riverside. Can you close the other one? Yeah, so maybe, maybe that's the thing. But that's Whitney says not being afraid of death is very soothing because we know where we will go at the end of this life and have eternal life without pain. So I agree, but it's not. I had a buddy die on on a motorcycle two years three years ago. Can't remember that. And today when we were going to church, I had someone pull out in front of me. Granted, we're going through town. It's only 25 miles an hour. 35 miles an hour is fatal if you get hit by someone or you run into someone. I know the risks of riding a motorcycle. It's about 35 times more likely to be killed in a collision than driving a car.

1:13:59 But I enjoy riding a motorcycle. There's a feeling you get on a bike that's completely different from being in a car surrounded by a roll cage. Like there's Open Access to look at everything and you know you. It almost feels like you're flying without. I don't like flying, but you know, without being off the ground, it almost feels like you're flying. But the risk is there. And you know, things happen where it could be a short trip, you could be, well, I'm just going around the block. And then, you know, your ticket gets punched. But now I'll be real with you. I don't like pain. I'm not going to say like, oh, yeah, no, I mean, it's, you know, crashing is not that big of a deal.

1:14:40 I don't want to have a broken arm or a broken hip. You know, I've heard it's the worst thing ever. I don't want that, you know, that's that's obviously terrible. But I'm not scared of being killed on my motorcycle because though, you know, death may be awful, you know, it could be drawn out, it could be long, it could be painful, things like that. It does end eventually. And I have a, a firm divine hope in where I will be after this life, which would be so much better than this. So I look forward to it and not in some sick way where I just want to, you know, do reckless things to punch my ticket early. But I'm not scared of the end, right? And so for me, for this whole elixir thing, I wouldn't drink it because honestly, it would just prolong my desire to be home with the God that I worship and be in a place that's so much better than this fallen, sinful world. And, you know, it would be yeah, I feel like I would be longing for the end more than I would be enjoying the life that I had at that point if I had an unnaturally long life, you know, past.

1:16:00 Like, we see people on the news sometimes they like get like 122, you know, that's crazy. And a lot of these guys are like World War 2 veterans or that have been, you know, smoking and drinking in their whole lives or World War 1 veterans or something like that. You know, it's crazy stuff. Who gets, you know, to to get to that point? But, yeah. And I mean, who and who's to say honestly? Like, let's bring it back. Like, who's to say if you would stay at the same age that you drank the elixir and not get to some crazy old age where you're crapping your pants every single day, but you're just not dying. You've got raging Alzheimer's. You're crapping your pants every single day. You don't know who your wife is, but you're so alive, you know? I mean, it doesn't say anything about where you're at right now. And honestly, I couldn't see myself living with these back pains for another like 200 years. I'd kill myself.

1:16:55 That'd be awful. I can't even sleep in bed, you know? It's just, it's just terrible. It's like it'd be the worst way to live. If I could go back to when I was in my 20s, like early 20s and then and keep that for forever with my terrible sounding voice and lack of facial hair, I'd be OK with that. But where I'm at right now, if I was left with this and then that was just like the hard stop. And for the next 203 hundred years until something that actually took me out like Jeff was talking about, oh, it'd suck. It'd be garbage. The only way I wouldn't take the elixir if it prevented death on all fronts. And healed you. If, if, yeah, if I had to live longer than my children, so if my children didn't do it, all of them, I wouldn't do it either. I, I, I would not be able to.

1:17:45 That's like the, the scariest thing as a parent, right? I got 4 kids and I could not imagine the pain that parents go through when they lose a child. Oh, no one wants to die before their children. It's unnatural. Yeah. I'm just saying, like from, you know, my point of view, I literally would not take an elixir of immortality if it meant that I had to live longer than my children. Now, if I had them with me the entire time, that'd be different. You know, I would totally do it and I would never be lonely. I'd always have my kids. I love them, you know, more than anything in this world. All right. Well, like I said, that was going to be a terrible episode. And you know. It was not.

1:18:26 It was a horrible episode. Absolutely no. Shut up. Terrible look. At Jeff's like, like, how are you going to mock me like this, disrespecting us? Jeff's Jeff's excited to go to bed. That's all Jeff is. Bro you you get twice as many viewers in these twitch lives that I get in shadow band and I have like 160 followers on twitch. And it's only going to get better because I haven't. Enjoyed these conversations? I haven't even started advertising it yet. Speaking of that, we need to look at the stats, man, see if you've got the affiliate now, because I know that we've had an average of whatever the minimum is for that. So you need to look. Assassin, he said. What's up? Tuned in just in time for the end. Sorry about that man. Assassin. Oh, is this the No, this isn't.

1:19:08 This isn't. We did, however. Who is it? Who do you think it is? Say, say your words. Digital Assassin. Are you? Is that who? This is one thing to answer no, OK. Jake's muted. It's G Jake, you're muted again. Yeah. Shout out to Craft King who was the sole person to hit the follow button today during this this. Trip thank. You very much. Appreciate this come back. I know, Craft King. What were you trying to say? Oh, I was going to say, if this is if this is Grayson, say yes, this is Grayson. If it's Geraldo, say Geraldo.

1:19:51 But now it's Grayson. It's it's G. Yep, that's Grayson. Do we have time for old Jeffrey to shout out what he wanted to talk about? He did, didn't he? The Ari did already. Yeah. Well then, never mind. Yeah, we'll give 2 minutes for the chat. Is there's anything else that the chat wants to say before we sign off? Go ahead and do that. In the meantime, I just want to say, hey, thank you to everybody that did show up for another live episode of The Infinite Rabbit Hole. For those of you that are listening on Spotify, Apple, or your podcast player of choice, we do do these live Sunday nights.

1:20:34 Usually starts at about 8:00. If we're not there promptly at 8, hang tight for about 10 minutes and we'll be there. 8:00 Central Time. Central Time, thank you. 9:00 Eastern that would be. 7. 6/6. Six. Yes, 6. 6:00 Pacific Time, 7 mountain time, and if you're in another country then it's just whatever time that is. So you're in Korea, It's 14 hours ahead. It's 15 hours ahead of central time. Owens says you're welcome. I'm super popular but humble as well. Thank you, Owens. K tarts or Kenzar says. I'm not afraid of death. I'm afraid of dying too early, if that makes sense.

1:21:16 Not that I want slash have to experience a bunch of things before that happens. I just want to live a long enough life. If I live to be 56, live to be 50 or 60 years old, I'd be happy. If I live longer, heck yeah. So we are shooting our Halloween episode soon and the last time we did a Halloween episode where we dressed up which we are doing again this year. Kenzar was a Co host of the Infinite Rat Hole. Kate Turks there. Say hello there, say hello everybody. She was, she was a jackalope. She was. She painted her face and everything. She did. It was adorable, absolute adorable.

1:21:58 So yeah, that's what you guys have coming up real quick. I want to start a new thing. It'd take 30 seconds. I just want to do a shout out to a book. I'm going to show everybody a new book every time that today I am talking about UA, PS and the Nuclear Puzzle by Robert Sallis, Visitations, national security and the need for transparency. So we will be getting an episode probably sometime early to mid, maybe slightly after mid 2025. We'll get it an episode on UA, PS and nuclear power, the connection between the two. Obviously, we've been teasing doing Malmstrom Air Force Base for a long time. And I would assume that Malmstrom is going to be a part of that episode, plus much, much more. All right.

1:22:48 Jeffrey, Jacob, do you guys have anything else to say before we leave? Nope. I don't care if anyone's offended by what I said. I'm offended both of you spewed nothing but hate speech this entire episode, and I am extremely offended. In fact, I'm going to have you guys both prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Maybe. You should call your mom and go cry about it. You was. In every country in which this will be broadcast. Ancestors will be. You'll be. Extradited. Offended by. Your phones, your bones will be extradited to each country to serve out your sentences back or back. So that people can spit on them when they go by. I want to welcome all points of view here on the Infinite Rabbit Hole.

1:23:34 So if you do have a point of view that was not covered in today's episode by one of the cast members, please reach out and come on onto the Infinite Rabbit Hole and debate us or debate Jake or. It was like that one time where we got that that bad review where they or it wasn't the e-mail or something. It wasn't a bad review. It was a four-star review, but they took a point off and I know, I know it's one you're talking. About yeah, where they're like, they're like, not every religious group is represented in this podcast or something along the lines of that. And it was that they were angry that the Christian perspective was representative with the idea of an afterlife when, you know, I guess not every major religious group believes in afterlife or something along the extent of that. I was just like, it's like major religious groups, Hindu, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity and Islam, and I was like. And all of them have some form of the end when you get to like, you become energy or you go to God or something along the lines of that.

1:24:46 I was like, what the heck are they talking about? Like, it's just like, you know, nonsense, right? But they were just mad just to be mad, right? And it's like, are we really expected to have every single political affiliation and every single religious group as a host of the infinite rabbit hole in order to make this person happy? And I was like, shut up. You would never hear my voice. Yeah, everyone else will be talking. There would be your. Bones will be extradited every. Year 4 country freaking podcast Co hosts. Oh good. Oh sweet guys we made $100. Let's separate it to 1000 parts. And and now that we're done with the intro, we'll do the outro, all right.

1:25:34 That is and always was, always will be an open invitation to anybody who does want to show up on the infinite rabbit hole and bring their point of view to the show. We do not tell you no, no matter what your point of view is. Come on in, have a debate with us, talk to us. A conversation is always great. I have open ears and open mind. And I'm sure Jake does to a point, and so does Jeff. Nope. Yeah, Well, well. I've done my research, I'm set. That is it, everybody. That has been one other episode of the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. Next week we have a special guest coming in and if you like Potty Mouse and probably getting banned on every platform that we've ever been on, then you're going to want to be here next week for our guests.

1:26:24 Potty mouths. Oh yeah. You talking about you? No. Yeah, we'll probably get. We might. We're already getting banned from every single platform because of what Jeff said. And we we talked about tik. T.O.K that's that's nothing compared to the guests for next week. I I can't wait. It's going to be great. We're going to get yeah, it's really a shadow banned literally right away. It's. OK. He he's of a particular group where I think he he is OK. Oh, we're not doing the paranormal lady, OK. No, I don't know. No, I know. I know who we're doing. We do. You guys, well, that has been another episode of the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. Thank you guys.

1:27:09 Really do appreciate these live chats. It's fun. Thank you to the the chat. I love it. Absolutely love it. Those that are listening on your podcast Player Choice, make sure you stop in at twitch.tv/infinite Rabbit Hole to see these episodes live every Sunday. If we don't do it on Sunday, we'll do it on Monday. Sometimes we throw you guys a curveball. That's been another episode of the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. This is also the third time I've said this. Until next time, travelers will see you right here in the next fork in the path of the Infinite Rabbit Hole. Bye everybody. Bye bye. Hey everybody, thanks for checking out the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast.

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