154. IRH News: Aliens in the Mall

0:02 Imagine this line represents the time present 1985 Future Past prior to this point in time somewhere here in the past. The timeline you put into this tangent creating our student 1985 alternate. You need Einstein, Reality, everyone. Else, sorry I had to put my phone on mute. Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole everybody. I'm your host, Jeremy and today we're going to talk about aliens in the mall.

0:48 This story has kind of swept the TikTok universe if you will. And I think X is pretty, pretty loaded on this topic as well. When something like this hits infinite rabbit holes, got to talk about it. So before we go ahead and jump into that path, let's go ahead and bring in the table today. We're going to start off with, oh man, who? We're going to start with CJ, the host of this, this, this episode. What's up, man? I thought that hosted this episode. You're technically hosting this episode on Zencaster. I accidentally paid for Zencaster. Late. Well, we're we're taking advantage of your mistake. Right.

1:32 That's good. Yeah. Let me get my money. We're. We're using you. That's OK. You can use me, Daddy. So what's up, man? How you doing? Not bad, not bad. Very busy, very busy. I'm a full time student with a full time job, so and a full time child. Yeah, we get you doing full time stuff. Yeah. Yeah, all right. Well, I still dream. About Jeff's bald head once in a while. Oh, you're not the only one. I heard Jake also dreams of Jeff's bald head. It's true, I do. Speaking of Jeff's bald head, Jake, what's up, man? I'm doing good.

2:14 It's crazy being behind the mic. I had to get everything set up. I was. It's been a couple months now. I packed up all my stuff, got out of the Navy last month, moved cross country from California to Wisconsin. I'm actually about, I don't know, an eighth of a mile from Jeremy's house. I'm right in his neighborhood, if you could call it a neighborhood. And I have three weeks of growth for facial hair on my face. And it feels good. It's insane, man. You look a little shaded. Yeah, a little bit. It's. Sexy. It's beautiful. Whitney's. Whitney's loving it. She's like, keep growing it. You look like a hobo. I love it.

2:55 Well, nobody's nobody's facial hair holds a candle to Jeffrey's. I'm Speaking of Jeffrey's facial hair. Jeff, how is your facial hair? It's all right. Hi, how are you man? Doing good I'm. I'm all right. Yeah, I'm good. It's also been a long time since I've set all of my stuff up, so I was like looking for cables and shit. My light is. The the most ready person here is Jeff by far, just so you guys. I'm always ready for everything, but I'm ready right now. Jeff Jeff was hooking some Fishman some red drum today. Yeah, I got a red crystal, got a trout. Crush Those are the trout with the fangs, right? Yep, the Spotted Sea Trouts.

3:45 Yep. Did you guys live, like, right next to each other? I'm jealous, man. I'm about to build a tiny bus and move into your neighborhood. No dude. Like when when we say we live right next to each other, the amount of houses between him and I are 123455 houses. So can you comfortably walk to his house past all those cornfields? Oh yeah, absolutely, 100%. I might get attacked by a wolf, but. Yeah, yeah. That's good, man. That's good, I'll. Do this. Yeah. I mean bro, freaking. The property alone would have cost millions in California. We were going to stay over there for the church, but we couldn't afford $1,000,000 home.

4:31 So we decided to uproot and do something, something different and came over here a couple times. Got a job over here working as an AT aviation electronics technician on luxury charter planes with Whitney. Same shift, same schedule, all that stuff. Great money. And yeah, 4 bed, 2 bed, 2 1/2 bath, 2700 square feet on 7 1/2 wooded acres from 4:50. I mean, that's doable all day long. It was crazy. Yeah, man. There's another house we're looking at. It was 499 and it was on 40 wooded acres. It's like a city block. It was huge. The only problem was it was in this like massive flood zone and there was no insurance company that was going to touch that house and it had like some UN whatever.

5:19 When you have to get like a permit or whatever unpermitted like builds on and stuff. And so it's just like a a crap hole just waiting for you know whoever buys it to get fined out the butt. So we're like, no. But yeah, it's pretty nice. Return of Fat Cat. Come here, come here. Yeah, man, the it's it's good living up here, man. You can you're you're strapped for cash. Western Northern Wisconsin. Good place to be. Cat. As some others would say, northwestern Wisconsin. Nor, nor Western. I thought Jeff let his cat go and we just heard Thud. For those of you that are listening, we just played show and tell with our Kitty cats.

6:09 You can take that any way you want. Let your imaginations go wild. There are some hairy Kitty cats, let me tell you. Surprisingly, Harry. All right. So down to business. Well, we weren't really expecting to do one of these impromptu news episodes so quick, but here we are, woke up yesterday. We are recording this on January 6th. I woke up yesterday to shoot probably three people on Facebook, one on X, and one on Instagram, say all. All different people by the way.

6:53 And a text message from people asking me if I heard about the creatures in these this Miami mall. So at the time I had just woken up and I did not hear of these creatures in the Miami mall. So of course I went to Google and Google didn't have shit. Then I then I finally checked the links that I was forwarded. And I was like page three of Google. That's where I found everything. You couldn't even go to Google, man. You had to go to TikTok. Everything, everything legit comes from TikTok, by the way. No, I'm just just kidding. So Long story short, it would seem that, well, it's tough to say because there's a lot of different narratives, a lot of different stories coming out. But from what the the gist is of what I hear, it's anywhere between 4:00 kids got arrested for playing with sticks and fireworks to interdimensional beings coming into like this courtyard in the mall and scaring the living piss on everybody to teenagers fighting aliens and everything in between.

8:09 All I can say is there was in a humongous police presence. You know, I I spent the day probably all day yesterday kind of looking into this and and trying to build an opinion on it, which is a very tough thing to do. But I came across a couple unique tik tokers, a couple cops that I follow and the two cops that I that I made a video on this that I do follow. They said that that kind of police response is unprecedented and they were they were pointing towards the Lakeland shooting for for an example.

8:55 I was going to say they don't even show up like that for a school shooting. Yeah. And he was, you know, he was talking about Lakeland because like the one of the cops I followed was roughly from that same area. And he's like the, the response to that wasn't even to that level. So let's go ahead and talk about initial ideas, initial thoughts on this, and then we'll kind of let the conversation evolve into what where we're at. Now. CJ, you're the first one to really respond to this yesterday in the group chat. So let's talk about where where you sit or where you sat. Let's talk about what you originally thought about this. I think it's all a bunch of big psyop. Just bullshit.

9:41 Nothing actually happened, and they just want us to ignore the Epstein list that came out. Or do you want me to pretend? Or do you want me to pretend it's real for a moment? No, no, dude. Say, say what you really think. That is obviously expecting. That to that's a that's a Jeff answer. That's not ACJ. Answer but that's actually what I really think at this point and but to play devil's advocate, if it were to be real I would say it's a project bluebeam thing and in the event they aren't demons, I mean aliens, then they're definitely demons and I'm gonna right so because they kind of they kind of match like if you look at like a biblical description of demons they kind of match for what people were saying they looked like.

10:33 I'm sure you can get into that. We'll we'll go ahead and take that segue into Jake. Obviously a lot of the, the long time listeners of the Infinite Rabbit Hole probably know what Jake's opinion is on this. But go ahead, Jake, what do you what do you guys say about this? At first I was like, this is total baloney. Nothing happened. It's just, you know, because it was so I don't know. There's so much going on. And then I started kind of looking into all the different things tying it and not just one individual person's. Like, you know, oh hey, this is, you know, what they're saying is is going on, but kind of getting as much information as I possibly could.

11:15 And yeah, apparently Twitter or X, whatever was like completely dark about the whole thing and really only you could only use Tiktok. And then other sites start kind of opening up like Twitter and then or X and then Facebook and things like that. But yeah, it was looking at the 60,000 resident power outage in that entire area, the closing of the Miami airport, everyone was like, oh, the black helicopters. That's not super exciting to me. It's just like, OK, well, you know, black and white helicopters, black helicopters, blue helicopters, whatever. Helicopters is the police force for that area. Who cares, right?

12:05 Yeah, sure. But then the, the signal jamming for the police radars and radios and stuff, that's very popular. You can get apps where you could just, you know, or just websites where you could just listen to your local police, you know, scanners and things like that and what's going on. You know, if there's like a big accident or something like that. But that got blocked off and then the NDA started coming out, People's reports of what happened started getting deleted. There's, you know, like Jeremy, you sent me that, that video of that guy who's talking to his dad that's in the police force over there and he's just like refusing to answer any questions and, you know, all sorts of stuff. So it was just like a bunch of weirdness. And then getting into the news articles. And I mean when we expect a massive SIOP, you know, throw out any of the things that happened in like the last couple of years, especially in the 2020 time frame. But every single news article, every single news source had the same exact plan and agenda.

13:12 And they were all like, like, there's videos. I think Joe Rogan put one out there on his podcast a couple years back where it was like 30 different news sources and they all said verbatim, the exact same sentence or, you know, five sentences, right? It was just all a script. But then you see all these different sites and they all say something completely different. They're trying to cover up what's going on, but none of them can get their their story straight. And that's different than if, say, there's a a bad accident or a mass shooting or something like that. They might be off on, like, the numbers as far as victims dead, you know, surviving that sort of thing. And then they can get really wildly far off as far as, like, you know, the race of the individuals and things like that, 'cause they just jump on those sorts of things and just like, oh, it turns out he wasn't this color. He was that or whatever, right?

14:02 But to be so far off the mark as far as like, oh, it was this many people? No, it was this many people. Oh, the fight happened at this time. Oh no, wait, we're going to edit a timestamp to make it later. It was just like all this different stuff. And then it's just like, well, there's so much weird stuff going on around this. And I thought about the Project Bluebeam thing, but why would they block off all this information? If it was part of Project Bluebeam to tell people that aliens are here type stuff, right? It wouldn't be all hush hush. It would be just like these aliens in Mexico type thing where it's just like, Oh my gosh, look at these aliens. You know, it wouldn't be just this hush hush thing.

14:44 And so it it evolved for me to the point where I saw the video of what appeared to be that one being or whatever walking between the building and the cop cars. And it's, it's progressing the entire time, right? It's not standing still. You can see it, this hazy figure moving across. It was like an accidental recording, I guess. But I I don't. I don't want to jump straight into my my conclusion right now where I'm sitting. But there was definitely like a good evolution of what I thought from this is just baloney or just this is like a weird you know cop rave going on in this mall. You know with all these flashing blue and red lights, right, Just to to whatever you know it.

15:28 It just it all progressed once I started getting more and more information. Definitely. I I don't know the guy's name, but it's just like this one black dude that's on TikTok. I'm sure everyone's heard what he was talking about, where it was, people were running away. And then there was that graffiti artist you showed us where he's talking about the kids plugging in the box and things like that and seeing like a being coming out and stuff. But it's just like, I guess, you know, and then me and CJ were kind of going back and forth on the chat last night about like holograms and things like that. But yeah, it's definitely been a good progression as far as like you know, what I think has happened to what I initially thought happened, you know?

16:10 Before we jump into what everyone's waiting for Jeffrey here just to give an update on that one video. It seems that from a if you look at the original video, the one that's not so zoomed in, it looks to be 3 cops walking side by side. CJ, is that what you were going to say? No, but no. You're right that that is a thing, but no, I had a an answer for something, Jake said. But we'll we'll get into that. OK, yeah, the the the clip that was going around for the longest time yesterday of that blurred creature, You know, air quotes creature. Sure, there's been a couple of cleaned up versions of it which looked to be just zoomed out.

16:52 Versions of it where you can clearly see three cops or three bodies of people, three people, three people's persons if you will, just walking. I don't think that really takes away necessarily from the events. Just takes away. From that video. What about the images of, like the things standing in the doorways and stuff? So yeah, I haven't. You know what's crazy is I haven't seen a single one of those today. It's like it's been washed away. Hmm, pretty, pretty nuts, but all right. Jeffrey, what are your what were your initial thoughts on this whole thing, man? My initial thoughts, obviously, like, I'm open to so much at this point, right?

17:39 So when I heard like, oh, you know, 8 to 12 foot beings, right. And then I heard like 8 to 12 foot shadow beings, I think was the first thing and I was like, OK, right. Like, not, not surprised, I guess, because I'm open to this this shit, but I definitely don't think it was a distraction. That thought crossed my mind, Like, oh, is this a distraction from, like the Epstein list or from whatever else might be happening right now? But no, because there's not a lot of talk about it, right? Like this isn't something that's like being massly broadcast on all the all the networks like a like a real distraction would be right?

18:23 True. Then I'm also thinking to myself, like, why would interdimensional entities show up at some random mall in Miami, right? So that doesn't make any sense to me either. Like this, this this isn't aliens or some shit. Because also like Jake was saying, this guy talking to his dad or his uncle or whoever it was, that's in the police force. Like no NDA is going to keep you from literally like, yo, we're bugging out, bro. Like if we get to shoot out, you know what I'm saying? We get to shoot out with interdimensional entities or or Starship trooper bugs or some shit like that. Your NDA is not keeping me quiet, bro. Like I'll make good bug.

19:03 It's a dead bug. You know what I mean? Shit is over. Like, you know, so that none of this makes sense. So I'm actually like I have some thought, I'll save it for the end like what I really think it is. But you know, there is a lot of openness like Project Bluebeam doesn't make sense cause again, it's not like something that's being shown to us, like here's something, you know, like it's all being swept away. So you know, I'm kind of leaning into like this must been, must have been some kind of like tactical operation or something that and not from us maybe like a foreign power or some rogue rogue assets somewhere like fucking attacked somebody or something. And the the, you know, the cops had no idea that this was going down.

19:53 So they show up in mass. But then you wonder like, I don't know, I didn't see a lot of videos and pictures and like you said, they're hard to find now. But I wasn't seeing a whole lot of like armored vehicles and shit. It was all like police patrols, so. It wouldn't make sense to me if there was like a mass shootout or something happening, like they'd be rolling up with with tanks. Especially in Miami, they have like tanks and shit, you know what I mean? So. Well, Miami's got a huge Coast Guard and National Guard presence. They have a military essentially. They have a very militarized police force in Dade County. So like they they're, you know, if something massive like that was going down, if if Russian spec OPS are whatever or Hamas tactical group was in there or whatever you want to, you know, like there'd be a more armored presence than just like what was happening.

20:41 They take that, whatever they call it, the badger and slam a hole through the side of the building. Yeah. So there's a there's a lot of questions. There's more questions and answers, that's for sure. Yeah. So my initial thoughts were, well, this is only Day 5 of 2024 and that was the first thing that that popped in my head. It seems like 2024 is starting off pretty, pretty good. What do you guys say I mean? The bingo is going to be insane. Yeah, I mean, come on, man. Nobody's, I'm prepping. Me and my girl are prepping. That's our thing this year. We're just, we're going to focus heavily on like gearing up, prepping, you know? Moving up to Wisconsin, right?

21:21 Just yeah. Like I said, I'm not joking about building a bus. So. Bro, that was the hardest thing about moving cross country. I had three years where the food's stored up and that would have added £6000 to my moving weight and I I end up giving it all away so I have to re up all that stuff. So Jeff, you make a good point. I didn't really think about that every There was a lot of cops. There was a lot of cops and and the way one person was putting it, one person actually sat there and counted. There was 82 is what he counted 82 cops. And then he said, just think about most of those. Cars.

22:04 Yeah, yeah, at least. Oh, cop cars, yeah, at least half of those if not more had at least two officers in it and you're like damn. So the presence that they they brought is 120 plus right, give or take and that that's a lot, that's a lot of bodies to be putting onto 4 kids playing with sticks and fireworks. You know what I thought was super inconsiderate? Like, nearly every single one of those of those cars had their sirens on. I was like, do you need it all of them to be blasting that shit into the neighbor? You really have to do that to your neighbors. It's night time.

22:46 What are you doing? Obviously, you know, me being, you know, a monster freak, I just like, I like cryptids and urban legends and stuff like that. This kind of hooked me right away. Obviously it's something that, you know, I I kind of initially thought like, oh man, this is it's too good to be true. There's no way that this is real life. And as the day kind of went on, there was a lot of, I wouldn't say inconsistencies, but a lot of head scratchers that happened through the day and you're like, hmm, something definitely happened. There was something there. Whether it was a paranormal incident or not, there definitely was something. And then you you kind of think of that and you're like how the hell did did did they land on 8 to 10 foot creatures, you know, like who who who comes up with that? Like how how do you how do you just like say hey, yeah, we're being chased around by these eight to 10 foot shadow interdimensional creatures and then expect the world to take it seriously, so.

23:57 Whatever you want. In that case, man. Like if you look at Hollywood and horror movies, when it comes to Aliens, we have everything from little Pixie size all the way up to Cloverfield size. So. Right, right. But I mean in in order for something so far out to catch on so quickly and to to keep going and you know the the amount of people that have come forward now that are saying like hey yeah I was a part of this. They're doing these confessional tapes and stuff. Shoot, I even saw somebody with with an NDA unsigned that they they said that they were able to snag away from one of the officers or one of the. Agents are.

24:39 Online. Important to me to say. This was OK. So the the people, the people that are telling their story, like you, like Jake had said there was that one guy, the the graffiti artist who said that he watched kids or teenagers take a box, some sort of black box thing and an. Old VHS player, yeah. And. Opened up a rift in space and time, plugging in a VHS, but. But he seemed to be like the the one that's coming forward, who was closest to .0 or Ground Zero. Like right where it happened, all the other videos that are coming forward, people that were like shopping in certain stores that weren't necessarily in that immediate area and then you kind of see you see what?

25:38 Are they saying, is there any consistency? Yeah. Is there anything that's consistent that's being said from these? The the consistency is 8 to 10 foot shadow creatures that are flashing in and out of existence. Basically that is consistent pretty much across the board. I've heard up to like predator cloaking type mechanisms. And so you gotta think of that, right? That could literally be somebody trying to explain the same thing that somebody else's, but not using the same terminology. So if that OK, let's just let's go with that if there's some, what's the word Skinwalkers, right. This is what they make me think of Skinwalkers, right?

26:19 How they're like at all? No, no. I always imagine Skinwalkers being able to just like cloak invisibility. That's why nobody can really see them. No, they're shape shifters. But skinwalkers, don't. You don't really get like 8 to 10 foot. That's like, OK, Wendigo. Stuff regardless. Let's say you got some interdimensional entities that are 812 foot tall. Half you know how come, like, there's not panic, right? If there's 'cause even if 10 people saw this, right? Those ten people are panicking and they're like rushing out of Miami to the families, and you know what I mean? Like and that would cause more panic and more like this.

27:00 There were a handful of videos of people who were just hitting the dip and piling out of that mall at rapid rates. Running. And that's real, but. And that could just be from hearing gunshots popping off in there. Right, it's my idea. They hear gunshots every 5 minutes. They're used to that. They're like, yeah, it's not at me. They're just shopping still. But, but to kind of build off on that, right, To build on that, yeah, I'm thinking, I, I'm pretty sure we all saw the videos of people booking it, but where are the videos of these people immediately after the incident, right? I mean, come on now, we have people who are, you know, victims of mass shooting events or you know, that are present at at mass shooting events that literally will, you know, live stream the event, right? They'll they'll be like, yeah, I just got out of the mall and it's getting shut up right now.

27:53 Prayers for this mall. I mean it's also so out of out of range. Like Jeremy, do you guys remember when I sent you that the the UFO video that I took when when I saw that UFO I I sent it to you and Jake? Like this is early on when I first met you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember 2 days ago. It it took me 15 minutes to think to pull my phone out of my pocket and start recording. I was just standing there, staring at it for. That long. And that's what I'm thinking too, right? We just have the sheer amount of the the sheer absence of people that are streaming their experience immediately after it kind of, I don't know, it it kind of pushes the the thought that maybe something really did happen and either one or two things happened one day. We're so excited that they just kind of straight up forgot to fucking do it, which honestly seems like not possible in this day and age or two.

28:58 There was a presence there, some sort of federal presence there that was on top of their shit and got all that crap taken out. Because you did have people that were saying and that this sounds convenient, but you did have people saying that their electronics weren't working. They weren't able to record, you know, And what they were recording were were really fuzzy and blurry. They shut down. They shut that thing down into River City. No comments in or out. So here's here's what I'm reading. Right. So the New York Post is saying that like it was 50 juveniles fighting with sticks and only four were arrested, which wouldn't make sense. I mean, if there's a a riot, they're not arresting everybody. They're only going to arrest a couple of people, you know what I mean?

29:40 But you know, 50 kids just going ham riding inside this mall That might bring 150 cops. To show up. There's the security footage of that though. I I I didn't see a single video of that on any platform I was looking through. And that's another thing that's kind of weird is. That mall, there's cams everywhere. It's a mall in Miami. There's everywhere there's cams. There's body Cam footage of the cops. There's people with their phones out. I mean, there's all kinds of stuff that we should have access to visuals to prove that some of the shit isn't true. I bet if you look on one of those websites like you guys remember like rotten.com and like those websites where you can find all those fucked up videos. Oh.

30:21 Shoot, we should go onto Reddit on insane reality. And I was gonna say, I bet you one of those fucked up websites because they they always have like up to date like crazy shit around the world that you can't post on YouTube or anything like that. So that's probably where you're going to find. So let's talk about Reddit real quick, because that's the first thing that a lot of people were talking about yesterday. Early on in the morning I was reading how because this happened, I guess either January 1st or January 2nd and immediately there was a bunch of stuff on Reddit and then by yesterday morning it was all gone. And apparently that's where all the videos were. People posting their their personal videos and people posting their their live reactions immediately after the events.

31:12 It all just got deleted. Of course. Again, this sounds convenient, but I don't know. There's a lot of stuff with this. You know what I don't like? You know what I don't like? It's the the casual nature of the videos I've seen of people describing the events that happened. Look, I'm. I'm the guy who would tell you straight up, like there'd be an alien standing right in front of me and would tell you that thing doesn't exist. But if I saw something like that, like that graffiti artist said he saw and this being coming out of this big giant blue light thing and everything's phasing in and out type stuff. Where I was like that that dude that was coming out of the Foot Locker and there was these shadow beings phasing in and out of existence and attacking people. I would sell my house, I'd sell all my clothes. I'd move as far away from civilization as I possibly could.

32:04 You guys would never hear from me again. Like there would be this insane panic that would come over me where I wouldn't be casually being. Like, yeah, so then this, you know, creature from the upside down shows up and just rips this lady's face off right in front of me. And I'm like, Dang, man, that's wack, you know? Just be like I'd be like, I am out. Goodbye. You know, I don't want to have anything with you all anymore, you know? I'm not for sure that the airport was shut down. Or 'cause, like, you know, a big part of me thinks that this is all bullshit, right, 'cause there's a lot of bullshit and it wouldn't be hard for somebody to piece together some footage and be like, oh, look, the airport was shut down and like all this, like, maybe one of the things happened. I saw I saw someone, they pulled up a a map of the flight traffic through that air during that time and the only thing that was up was the place helos.

32:58 I saw that. But how do we know, right? Like that that's even real, right, 'cause I can, I could pull up one of those sites and filter everything out and just show you the helicopter. Or how do we know that that was taken at that moment, right, And not something from a year ago or 10 years ago or whatever? So I think a lot of those have dates and time stamps on them though. Yeah. But anybody? Did you can fake any of that? Those like, I really think that all this stuff truly is fake. And the reason they're pulling all these videos down and like going out of the way to like wipe Reddit and all that is they're trying to distract 2 main groups of people. That's your hacktivist and your remote viewers, and we all know the government gives a shit about both of them a great deal. Also, don't.

33:45 Look at me like that, Jerry. Also, this whole thing led me into the like, this whole Epstein thing and hearing someone in the news saying that you might hear from him directly, and then going into that whole thing and then seeing his autopsy photos and the guy looks nothing like Jeffrey Epstein. Whatsoever. And I'm just like. He's still alive, yeah. His nose is is different. His ears are different. I'm just like, Oh yeah, this is a completely different person. Like, hair isn't even the same color. You know, I'm just like, Yep. So I'm just like, so I don't know. There's like two big giant things going on at once, and both of them are baloney. I really think that it all stems like years ago, right?

34:27 So like, they had how many years now to curate that Epstein list, right? They want. They watched us. They listened to us talk. They listened to us speculate. They They found out who we wanted to be on that list. They curate a list. They say they're going to release it, right? Well, they're going to go ahead and they're going to release it. And then they form this little psyop thing because they know that the hackers and the remote viewers are going to immediately start looking at that list in a more critical view. So they need to give the hackers and remote viewers something to do. So they staged this event at the mall, right? That's going to catch their attention. And the reason I started thinking about that is because the minute Jeremy started sending those videos, my first thought was like, Oh my God, aliens. Like an I got excited and I was like, if I jumped right to that right, like I jumped right to that, everybody else is going to jump right to that.

35:17 Like everyone's excited. They, they told us aliens are real. Finally we're going to see them. Everybody's stoked. So now they start covering it up. Well, now instead of the hackers trying to get in to see what the actual Epstein list was, instead of questioning this curated one, now they're trying to get into to find these videos, these wiped messages, these wiped reports. They're they're focusing on that. And the same thing with their remote viewers. Your, your average citizen isn't really possessing the ability to do those things. So they they're definitely, I really think they're definitely targeting very specific groups of people they're concerned about who have the abilities to dig out the truth, or at least make hiding the truth that much more difficult for them, 'cause they really don't want us to know who is actually on that list. See my NBC?

36:08 Miami says that the Miami Police Department has confirmed that there was, quote, no aliens, UF, OS or ETS, No airports were closed and no power outages. It was just the event at the mall. Right. And that that also support like all the like when Jake said earlier about how when we had originally had psyops, every single news station had the same scripted line, well, that's what we're expecting. So now if they can mix up these reports, get all these people saying different things, that it's even bigger distraction, you know hackers have AI to work with now. I was going to say that AI, man, like there's probably an AI out there that's just working on low level conspiracy psyops and just posting them.

36:57 And we have these new, these new tools and we need to to freshen things up. And this is confusing. If it's confusing for us, we don't know what to look at. We don't know what to believe now. The first thing I did, my my uncle lives fairly close to that area. He was one of the first people to hit up by, hey, you hear about this? He hadn't even heard about it yet and he went and did some digging and absolutely nobody out that way had heard anything other than cops reporting to a mall. The the the local people aren't even talking about aliens. It's everybody else who's having that conversation. So when we're looking at that sort of thing, it really makes more sense for it to be a psyop, like the locals don't know anything about it. So I I I truly believe they're trying to cover up the whole Epstein list thing.

37:47 But how? How close is he to that mall? Because I don't know if you've ever been to Miami. It's pretty big, man. Yeah, I think he says he's like 3 1/2 hours, four hours away. Oh, see, that's that's not close enough, man. Well, the the thing about the Epstein it they're not even releasing the Epstein list, I mean. That's close enough for local news, Jeremy The. The thing is, they're not even releasing the Epstein list. They're it's a it's a defamation lawsuit where names were redacted in that in a lot of names could be said in that that aren't necessarily the same names that are in Epstein's black book. That list isn't what's being dropped. So I I mean, it's still like it's still something, right?

38:27 But it's not the thing. So I don't see why, like they would worry about making this a distraction from that anything. I think it's probably a distraction from something else. Well, maybe it's a. Distraction for a distraction for a distraction, right. It's a distraction, Inception. What I'm saying is, I don't think they need to distract us from this defamation lawsuit that's related to Epstein with unredacted names that we're getting a list of because we're not getting the Epstein list. That's. Not right. But what if that What if that redacted Epstein list is a distraction from the civil uprising that's going on, and then we're distracting from the Epstein list to further hide that? I mean, yeah, could be right. I mean, everything could be a distraction from everything else.

39:07 So I want to get into where I'm at now because this is kind of a a good segue I. That way to cut off the conversation. Yeah, cut that shit. Off. By the way, Jeff, I'm surprised that you used local news as a source. That's not. I mean, it's not. Very Jeffrey. Like you said, man, there's not, there's nothing. You can't find anything. I'm using DuckDuckGo right now, and I'm just trying to find stuff. And like, the only thing that you can find is Miami's local news outlet. And like, the New York Post, man. Like that's literally the only shit that I can even. Find that goes getting censored now. Dude, you gotta use the index. Yeah, I mean, I was using Brave for a while, but you? Know either way, I think that's actually that that's evidence towards that there was something that actually happened. That there aren't any other sources that are covering this at all.

40:04 I mean, you would think that there would be some sort of news sources out there covering this and and really trying to cover the shit up. Or going to great lengths to explain that, that there wasn't any of this going on because just the local news station saying, hey, yeah, the cops said that there were no aliens. Of course the cops are going to say that there were no aliens, of course. I mean, that's no new. That's not teaching me nothing. No, but the key part wasn't that obviously, they're not gonna say there wasn't aliens, but the airport being shut down, right? That can be confirmed or deny. You could deny that it was or wasn't, but you can confirm whether it was or it wasn't.

40:46 You know I'm saying correct. And same with the power outages. Like just because some schmucks on some Facebook reels and TikTok are saying like, oh man, like 3 city blocks around the mall were fucking shut down with power and like all this. It's like, was it really though? Yeah, but even if the news says that the the airport wasn't shut down, dude, I'm telling you right now, my distrust in the news happened. Do you guys? Obviously, Jake, you remember when Puerto Rico, I believe it was Puerto Rico got hit with that massive hurricane and we were in HSE 22. I was there doing doing hurricane relief.

41:28 And that's that's exactly what I want to get to. I'm sitting there, you know, watching the news every night, local and national, doesn't matter what side of the the coin that you're watching, CNN or Fox or whatever. They're talking about how we have no book, no help there. America's not helping Puerto Rico. They have, they have people on the ground and they're walking down a a street that's completely obliterated with poor people underneath tents and stuff and and they're just making it look absolutely horrible. But yet I'm sitting there as as a person who is in the active military filling up triwal boxes full of water containers and food and everything to ship to our detachment, which is where.

42:21 Jake was the USS Wasp sitting off the Virgin Islands in Puerto Rico doing 3 months of hurricane assistance and flying people from the little islands to the mainland. That whole place look like a freaking bomb went off. All the trees are knocked down and everything. Was awful. What I'm saying is like, they're reporting that there's no effort to be helping these people and they're going as far as to finding the absolutely worst spots of it, or even staging as we know that they do and telling the nation that there is no help going on here. But yet I'm I'm helping. I'm boxing up food as well as anybody else along the seawall in Norfolk on any freaking helicopter squadron. They were all detached over to fucking Puerto Rico. I mean it it was it was a massive effort and the the amount of, you know, the amount of food that we they made U.S. box right there in the hangar Bay into these things that we call Tri walls.

43:20 They're they're triple, triple layered cardboard boxes that are what, Cube. 4 feet, right, Jake? Something like that. Something like that. And then you see those. Get 6 by sixes or something. Yeah, Then then and then you see them get lifted away. And then they go, they go away, they land on a ship, and then all of a sudden that goes out to where Jake's out there on the Wasp. I think we were there because we went through the hurricane, or we went around it, came back in, started that, then the comfort showed up, then FEMA showed up. Yeah, it was a huge effort. Huge effort, but yet the only thing you can see on the news is that there was absolutely zero effort from the United States. And I can tell you that pretty much all of our resources were being put into that at that time.

44:04 If if they weren't forward deployed overseas, we were helping out Puerto Rico. So the news doesn't fucking do it for me. I can't stand anything that comes from the news man. I'm not. I'm not even saying that the news is right. I'm just, you know, I'm just saying because all we've heard, all I've heard from on social media is like these things have happened. And I'm just saying like this is the first that I'm seeing somebody saying that and I I get it, that it's the news, trust me. I'm with you there. But I've so right now I'm on, I'm on flight radar, right where I can look at flight plans in real time and you can play back to any point in time you want. So does anybody know exactly when this took place? I'm going to look up to see. It was either the first, it was either the first or second. I've heard both.

44:48 Well, I can. I've only heard the 1st. Try to find exactly when it was so I while Jeff. Is let out. I do have a question. For you guys, if we had a large enough group of people, like 50 plus kids who were in possession of fireworks and it was large enough, and we called them sticks and sticks and it was a big enough issue that it was called a riot, why was nothing on fire? That's like what we do when we riot, right? We burn stuff. Why was nothing on fire? And and not to mention the amount of freaking other kids and people that would be recording every single second of it. Oh yeah, like any any riot that's ever happened in the last couple years and there's someone that's like taking a dump on the front of a cop car and then these people are setting this other one on fire and someone's sitting there recording it.

45:37 We would have had a video of that fight and that riot going down before cops showed up, and we don't even have that. We would have videos of people taking videos of that fight or the cops showed up. Hey Jeff, what'd you find, man? I'm still trying to figure out exactly what time this happened and. It it? Well, they said that the airports were still shut down like the next day. So I think was it. I I think it happened on the 3rd. Yeah. But I, you know, Jeff, if you're looking at this retrospectively, man, I even if you go back that could all be doctored now, Ben. That doesn't matter because the articles are published all different days and shit like I'm trying to find exactly. When in the chat, we like we, Jeff had brought it up too, that like we're dealing with this like civil uprising that nobody's reporting on.

46:27 They're actively trying to cover that up. Yeah, what? I mean, I have. Something. What if they were squashing something like that? It wasn't alien. It was. It was there was some sort of insurgency there for part of a civil uprising they were getting so that and they don't want us to know about it. So this is, this is kind of where I want to go into my final thoughts here for a second. We had made mention in the chat of while every single cop in South Florida was in Miami at that mall during that period of time. What was going on outside of that mall?

47:07 If you don't know, Miami is a it's got major ports in and around it and it's also a a hot spot for not just immigration but also human trafficking, drugs, weapons, and and all that shit. So personally the mall and everything in the creatures seems cool. I, I, you know, I would love to see some some evidence coming out to say that there was something actually there but something pulled all the cops over there, something told them all to go there. And it's one of those things where while everyone's looking one way what's going on in the other direction could the first thing that goes into my mind is that you know we have the issue with all these military aged men coming into the country right now.

48:03 What could have been brought in in one of the hottest spots for this kind of stuff without any police protection or police watching? You know, I have a problem with I. It's always great to have first hand accounts of people's experiences and stuff like that, but they're so like this day and then the next day and that sort of stuff. It's not all at one time where you could say consistently throughout all these guys that dropped the video at within the same couple hours that these are all consistent stories. Honestly. Like if we wanted to get another, you know, a million listens on this podcast. Jeff lives in Florida.

48:48 Everyone knows that. We always talk about it. Jeff's make up some bogus story right now that you were there in Miami and saw it. We're gonna get 300 million listens on this episode. And we say Jeff tells a story about the Miami thing because he knows all the tidbits 810 feet tall, shadow beings phasing in and out. He can make up some random BS. No one has any way to verify it. And next thing you know, we're going to be the largest podcast that's in on the planet right now. Jeff, can the aliens have their titties out when you tell this story? I'm just saying that that for me has been a little bit frustrating because like you said, there's none of those. Like I'm leaving them all right now. Reactions.

49:31 This is what I just saw. You know, the adrenaline's starting to wear off type stuff where you could hear it in the person's voice. It's these people casually laid back, oh, this is what I saw. And it's the day after the last video of someone saying, Oh yeah, well, this is what I saw. And it's like you're just getting TikTok clout now. It's like you're going to be the hottest thing there. Everyone's going to watch this video. You're going to have, you know, 30 million views in a day on your on this one video, you know. And then you're going to have so many subscribers and stuff. I don't know if I can trust that sort of stuff versus all of the immediate reaction first hand accounts of, you know, people running and screaming from their lives. I mean literally, like, I don't know when you guys were saying it or everyone said it, but I've seen like active shootings going on and people are recording themselves and you hear it just pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop all around them and they're saying, Oh my gosh, it's freaking going down, right? And it's just like, you know, yeah, people are fearless these days.

50:31 We're so, I don't know, immune or just not in touch with reality, I guess to where that sort of stuff just doesn't faze us anymore. You know, it's way past the days of just like, you know, these random events and it seems like everyone's kind of going crazy at the moment. So these sorts of crazy events like shootings and things like that seem to happen all over the place and people are so desensitized to it that it's just like they'll pull out their phones and record it, even if like a stray bullet might hit them right in the Dome piece. Right. But yeah, I wanted to see all those immediate reactions to it and we could say at a convenience sake, Oh well, they were all deleted, but surely, I mean, we got truth, social, we got. I think that's the one that Trump started where, you know, you don't get censored ever and nothing gets taken down and stuff like that.

51:25 We got all these social media platforms that aren't just the main three, right? Or the main 4. Reddit, Instagram, X, and Facebook, where all these videos could be, but none of them are. And we just see this trickle effect of, all right, well, I'm going to tell my story in two days Later, someone else is going to say vaguely the same thing. You know what it was? It was Jeff at the mall with fish. And I think my story is the most credible because I have a picture of Jeff in Florida holding a fish. Yeah, I don't know, man. It's it like, this is going to sound crazy coming for me, but I really think that honestly, a freaking group of 50 or 75, you know, juveniles as you call them, right? A bunch of teenagers, high schoolers, just like literally rioting in a mall.

52:12 Like fighting each other with weapons is way more likely of a story than almost any of the other shit. Because it doesn't make, it still doesn't make sense to me that like this would happen at a mall. Like if some aliens or any type of crazy like you know like you were saying with the we're in the middle of a civil war. Maybe it was some type of resistance or I don't know like an operation going on. Why the mall like it's just so random and then why would the airport be closed down if it even was. I couldn't even I looking at the tracker thing I couldn't see it shut down at all. Look like it was operating all day and night on the 1st from what I could tell but. Well, I am. I I don't necessarily think that there were alien beings, but to kind of play to kind of rebuttal your statement there.

52:59 Why that mall? Well, it's, you know, if it's going to happen, it's got to happen somewhere, right? I mean, what what would be a better place? I mean it just seems like it it's, you know, it's just a random spot that that it happened in. If they were going to whack a mall though, wouldn't it make more sense for the aliens to go for like the Mall of America, which is? But why? But why? I mean, you go, you go for, you know, Yeah, but you don't want something so big because then it's harder to cover. They mean that shit up. I mean let's. Just say actually, if it was actually aliens, you would think that they would want to go somewhere where that's a perceived. Larger. Center of Resources.

53:40 According to the stories that have been thrown at us, it was the kids that plugged in their ancient you know, you know, I don't know, they're, they're the very first Mac that ever came out. They plugged that thing in and it caused a wormhole that sucked the aliens through it into our dimension and. What they let Pinhead out of Hellraiser like? What? Yes. Actually, you know what? I I forget what those creatures are called from. From Hellraiser, there's actually a name for those beings. Yeah, they're they. Were eight to 10 feet tall. And they were dark creatures and stuff too. Maybe they let Pinhead out and all his little weird buddies. I just think it was.

54:23 I just think it was a riot full of children who were doing something crazy. There would be videos. Of they're called Xenobits, by the way. Xenobits. OK, Xenobits, That's right. But there would be videos of kids rioting like we would, Yeah. And that's we don't have videos of anything other than copies. You're right, I I agree with you there. There would be like Snapchats of all this happening, right? But. Someone would have been bragging about it, yo. Something about the catchy's hands. Gang. Gang Worldstarhiphop. Videos and shit. No, you're right. I mean, I still have. I I still know what I think it is. But whenever we get to the end of this all, I'll let you all know. I'll let you all know what this is. Don't worry. Especially especially the stage that this topic has right now. You know that that Worldstar video would go absolutely viral right now.

55:14 So I don't know, man, I, I I think something, something happened. Whether or not it was a distraction or something that did happen. I mean, I I hate being the person to explain an unknown with another unknown. But honestly, I mean, let's let's say that, you know, the government did know that something was going to happen or that they willed something to happen in a location and they just knew it was going to be at this mall. You know, shoot big, but don't shoot too big, right? Shoot big enough to be able to make a fuss among among the population, but not too big to where you can't cover it up. I mean, a mall in Miami sounds pretty good and successfully stop anybody from sharing any of the information and let everything be word of mouth.

56:07 I don't know, man. It's just. Or there's actually nothing going on there and they just wanted us to ask a whole bunch of questions because they were doing something else somewhere in the world that they don't want us to focus on. And honestly, I think that's the most likely. I really. Do I could tell you the power wasn't out because in in the pictures the power is on like? Across the street, right? And the videos. Yeah. Yeah, that. That's a good point. All right. I I mean, I pretty much already said my final thoughts. I, you know, my biggest question is what was happening outside of the mall when all the cops were at the mall. That's that's me.

56:52 You know, I I I would love to see some some pictures or videos of these things if if they really existed. I'm still going to be looking and seeing if there is. But honestly, I I find it highly unlikely that there were any alien creatures at the this particular mall. Well, that's because aliens don't exist, but yeah. Well, I I don't necessarily agree, but I hope there, I hope this was, you know, I I think that'd be pretty neat see what kind of implement how this effects humanity. If it was true, it'd be very interesting probably really scary to be honest with you. But Yep, that's that's that's my side of things. So I'll tell you what I think.

57:40 So first, the the power's on. Like I said, I looked at the the plane tracker thing. I fast forwarded it through the whole day, like the planes were in and out. As far as I could tell, the airport wasn't shut down. 50 kids, 75 kids riding. Makes sense, right, for a bunch of cops to show up. But, you know, you look at the pictures, the cops aren't parked in any kind of tactical fashion at all. They're all just gridlocked themselves in. And it's just, it looks just more like it's a visual thing than it is like an actual tactical response of any kind, right? There's no armored vehicles, There's none of this. So what I actually think this is, this is probably promotion.

58:21 This is a a weird 2024 new type of promoting for a film that's probably being shot and we're going to see like the next like, I don't know, weird movie like a Cloverfield or like a Blair Witch Project, like first person, body Cam shot video movie. That's going to be super intense. We're not allowed to talk about it because we don't want to spoil the oh. My gosh. That's the only thing that would keep people actually not breaking ND as the like I said, if it's an NDAI, don't give a fuck. If it's a real alien motherfuckers we're getting out of here. But if it's a movie being shot and we're all getting a little pay or whatever, the fuck might be the case and I got to sign this NDA, that's fine.

59:05 And I think that we're just now starting to see some of the promotion. Could you could you imagine if this was for promotion of a movie? This would be the absolute best public stunt or APR stunt that anybody has ever done for a movie. I mean, this would dude, I would go see this movie in a heartbeat. Would they need to super scale it that much though? Because like when they were doing the, the the redo of it, they had that like weird clown and stuff all over the United States, like red balloons just popping up in random spots. And that was. Yeah, like that, Yeah. People were like driving up on clowns, like in the middle of the of nowhere. And people were like, oh, what is this weird? Like psychopath shit? And it was actually like promotions is. That what that was? Yeah, the whole clown thing. Well.

59:46 People there. Was. There was copycats, There was other people doing shit too. But there was actually a promotion where, yeah, there was clowns and people were driving upon clowns. And they they just did this shit with that that movie on Netflix, leave the world behind where they had deer posted all over the world. And I don't know if you guys watched the movie yet, but deer play a part in in that movie and there were like these automatronic. Here kind of just posted everywhere throughout the world and it was just like a a big, you know, advertisement stunt for for that movie, man. Could you fucking imagine if this, if that's what this ends up being, that's like the the 4th Cloverfield or something like that.

1:00:31 I could totally fucking see that dude. I think that's probably what this was. And then there might have actually been a bunch of high school kids that broke out and fight either near this or at the same time or even there. I mean, you know, we're talking about Miami, bro. Miami's a fucking it's. The Wild West. It's the Wild West in Miami, bro. You pull up with 100 cop cars, even if they're a lot of them are prop cars or whatever the case might be. And like, you know, you get a group of of high schoolers walking around Miami on New Year's. Like, bro, they're gonna go see what's up and next thing you know, one kid says something and swings on a cop or something. You know, who knows, man, That's. Like 4. Point arrested. 'Cause when out we were living down in Socal. I don't know what movie it was.

1:01:14 I mean, gosh, for all I know, I haven't seen any of them. But it could have been a new Fast and Furious movie. But they had an entire like main road completely blocked off or main freeway out in the just out in the boonies and we had to take a detour. And as we're going around we saw all these crazy looking souped up cars that were all sitting there and stuff and the film crews and the tents and all that sort of stuff. And we lived 10 minutes down the road from there, didn't hear anything about it that they were going to be blocking off this road or anything like that. Imagine just being in an apartment complex or someplace, you know, on the other side of the street, and you see all these cops and you just start thinking like, Oh my gosh, this stuff's going down. Meanwhile, they're filming a movie and you just have no clue 'cause you know, no one says anything. That could be a mishmash of things. I mean, like the pictures and videos of all the cops might not be at the mall, right?

1:02:07 Like, I I'm not in Miami. I don't really. I'm not familiar with this mall. I can't recognize this picture and be like, that's the mall, right? Like the mall could be 3 miles away and there could have been a fight with kids and sticks that all got arrested. And what we're looking at in TikTok videos and pictures could be this, this PR stunt that's happened at the same time. It could be all mashed up together. So it changed my opinion. It's a flash mob of cops, yeah. It's a rave. I'm telling you just they're all in there dancing. You see with their flashlights and stuff, they're just spinning in circles. It's. Crazy could be the cops. The cops could be also the cops could be fucking. What's the word I'm looking for like? They could be the. Other thing, but they they could be, they could be protesting whatever.

1:02:47 They could be doing a a sit in like fuck it. We're all going to pull up over here and we're not going to do traffic stops for the night on New Year's 'cause we want better pay. And we can't talk about it, because in order for negotiation just to go through the fucking courses and everything, we all got to sign these Ndas and we can't really talk about what the fucks happening until the process. Is over. So guess, guess. Check this out. Check this out. So just for the hell of it, you know the Stranger Things, right? This has very Stranger Things asks feel to it, right? So I just looked up. I mean, we know we're getting the last chapter of Stranger Things this year. This could be. 5.

1:03:29 There you go. Right here, hindustintimes.com says Stranger Things Five is revving up, with filming potentially starting as early as January 5th to 2024. Dude and wait, hold on, look at the pic. I'm looking at one of these pictures. I got a blown up. Come on, man. I gotta blow nuts. A lot of these cars look very blocky, bro. Like I'm looking at a lot of these cop cars that are posted up on the side of the street and I'm not seeing like new. They're not chargers. These look like fucking 80s cars, bro. I mean, this is a grainy picture. I'm not looking at anything high def or anything like that but.

1:04:12 Jeremy, I love your shirt. I. Think we tracked the case, gentlemen. Thank you, Jeff. Look. At this, he's got Mothman's red eyes and everything. How cool is that? Oh, just just for the the heck. Of it I'm wearing. Blow your fucking mind with that the. Probing time we're in the Probe in Time T-shirt 'cause obviously, you know, the aliens are here, they're definitely going after our booty holes. Literally, 'cause there was no talk about this before yesterday. And here we are. Potential potential filming starting January 5th, which is when all this shit hit. That's nuts. Could you imagine that? We that like November, October falls, you know, comes around and the opening scene is the fucking mall in Miami. I'm.

1:04:57 Just going to have. Shit. I'm going to have to. Change his last name to Holmes. Some of these cop cars are new now. I got a better picture here, but either way, it could still be. Yeah, it could definitely be a promotion for Stranger Things or something like Crazy Cloverfield 4 or whatever the fuck End of the World movie coming out. How come every time? We do war movie. How come every time we do one of these stupid fucking news episodes, we end up walking away with it, agreeing with Jeff? It's like every time, man. It could have been worse, man. We could have gone full swing with it and then found out it was one of those Coyote Peterson things where he was just doing a promotion. Hey, if we found a Bigfoot skeleton, this is what it would have been like you. Know what a piece of shit.

1:05:38 I watch his, I watch his show where you get stung by all the stuff and bitten by everything, and I still hate him. Really. The big. The big factor for me is like if if a being of any kind shows up anywhere, like anywhere that's populated, right. So any first world populated spot and a being shows up, bro. Like you'll know, you will know there won't be like, Oh well they they wipe the videos and shit away. And I don't know dude, what it would be just. Like the Mexican aliens that. People are panicking. Like the panic will ensue so quickly that, like, people who run infrastructure won't be able to run infrastructure. We'll know within like 24 hours. Miami is shut down because fucking beings showed up, you know?

1:06:24 It's like Battlefield, LA. Or whatever. Exactly. Fucking absolute mayhem within like 48 hours. And I live close to Miami. I live close enough to Miami, where by now, five days later, it'd be mayhem here too if beings showed up if a fucking Stranger Things portal to the fucking what do they call it? The unknown or the Upside Down? The Upside Down? If the Upside Down opened up. The Demogorgon comes out. In Miami, they they wouldn't have launched a rocket yesterday, and I would have known because there'd be riots here by now. That's true, man. I've gone, I've gone through this evolutionary, just all these things. I mean, jeez, even yesterday Jeremy was hitting me up, asking me biblical type stuff about demons and stuff, asking if this was, this was part of that.

1:07:16 And I think we've all kind of gone through or at least I I know for sure me and Jeremy have gone through this whole like what could this be? You know, check off all the boxes, things like that. And yeah, I mean up until yesterday, up until earlier today, I was dead set on. You know, if anything, this was demonic activity that was seen by a bunch of people. Now, I'm almost 100% certain that that's not the case and that I don't know what it is, but it's probably back to being baloney again. I'm mad at you Jeff. We were having a lot of fun talking about this and you had to come in here and use object.

1:07:58 He had sense and stuff. I'm sorry, bro. I'm. I'm all, you know me, man. I'm about it. I'm about that life, bro. But I also, I also know how to, like, sift through the bullshit and get down to like, yo, OK, let's be real about this shit, man. Like, I'm just saying, you know. What's crazy is I don't think anybody is talking about this possibly being some sort of advertisement for a movie or video game or something like that. We're gonna you know what? Screw this. I'm gonna. I'm gonna slap this into editing. I'm gonna post this tonight. Just let it go. Yeah. And make sure you have in the description. We know what it was. Yeah. Jeff talks about his experience. Jeff talks about his experience in the mall. Jeff, tell me about the last time you were in the mall. Just say the mall in Florida.

1:08:47 Have some clips? Have some clips uploaded on TikTok by tonight too, man. Clickbait shit. Out of it. Well, who? Knows man. Anything else, guys? Gosh, I don't know anymore. Nope, we're all on Jeff's side. Now there's nothing. Yeah, this is a good conversation. I don't, I don't think I'd ever agree with Jeff, but here I am. Here we are. He's getting that a lot. And then you usually do by the end of an episode, usually, like I'm on Jeff's side about this one. Yeah, well, we have, we don't have the same views, but we we do intersect in a lot of areas. Yeah, man. All right. Well, that was the first ever in between episode.

1:09:28 I have to. I have to make a shout out real quick. I was talking. I was talking about this with a guy over in the Menominee market in the liquor section. Shout out to Brian. Oh, the marketplace. The marketplace, Yeah, we were talking about this. He I told him about the show. We started talking about the Miami thing. He definitely lined up with Jeff. He was talking about extraterrestrials on the other side of the ice wall is what he was going with. And I started talking to him about Jeff. And he started asking about if we were going to do a mud flood episode or a what's what's it starts with AT Tataria? Tataria. Yeah. That that thing. And I was just like, that's probably something that Jeff's going to be covering.

1:10:12 So if he's listening, shout out to Brian. But yeah, yeah. Brian. Hell yeah, Brian. Hell yeah, Brian. Nothing from CJ. What an asshole. Go, Brian. Go, Brian. Let's go, Brian. Let's go, Brian. Good episode. Well, like I said, we weren't expecting to do one of these off week episodes so soon, but news hit and this is kind of what we're going to go with for for now on in these off weeks this or interviews with some people. I do have a few kind of lined up, won't be until a little bit later. So we're going to go ahead and plop this out. This one's going to fall on a Sunday, Sunday, January 7th. This one will go live, recorded January 6th. You will be getting the next episode in the documentary series on January 15th, where I will be talking about screen memories, the story of aliens, Owls and UFOs. Yeah, Thanks guys.

1:11:19 CJ, Jeff, Jake, thank you for joining me today. And yeah, we, we'll be looking. Forward, This thing I paid for by accident. Well, thank you. For accidentally paying for it. We're just going to make sure you do that every year. Each one of these guys will be will be presenting their version of a documentary at some point this season. C JS has already been announced, I believe it is January 29th. CJ, you'll be be talking about Bachelor's Grove Cemetery, correct? That is correct, yeah. Cool.

1:12:00 Jeff. Jake, do you guys want to give any hints or talk about the topics that you guys want to cover as of yet or you guys want to leave that in the dark? Yeah, I'm talking about the Colocanth. Yeah, we're going to do another one of those cryptic case files, right? Yeah. It's just you know, something that's interesting. I I like it. I I know I beat it to death probably or seasonal review or whenever it was. But just basically an insight into cryptozoology in action, that it's not just mythological creatures. It's also creatures that went extinct or were proposed to be extinct and that they're they're coming back and all that sort of stuff and you know, everything. So did someone just rip one?

1:12:40 What was? That hey. Dude. Dang, I'm I'm leaving it. In that's that's right. I saw the waveform go across the thing and I was like, Oh my God, I picked it up. I. Thought it was a chair squeaking until I saw Jeremy cracking up. Do. You have to give us a teaser, man. Yeah, I'm just basically going to be building on the Atlantis episode with some Younger Dryas. End of the Ice Age activities sunken cities, various civilizations, very. Jeff, like when are you going to finish up that that, that report that you were doing, that one, the FBI report about the the stuff, the things and stuff? The gateway process.

1:13:26 That's it the. CIA one? Yeah bro, First of all, I don't remember where we left off on that. We got like 3/4 of the way through that document. And then and do the rest of it. So we have it recorded. We could listen. We have to go back and figure out where we left off. We could, we could finish recording that. We could just pick up where we left off one day and do that. I. Mean we we should do that? Yeah, for one day there is. Still, like a few more, we could probably do two more episodes, I bet, with the rest of that document. We'll throw them in on off weeks. We could do that too. You have to figure out where we left off. Send me the recordings. Or wherever. Wherever they're, I mean. You could. Just. Subscribe to Infinite Rabbit Hole. Man, no.

1:14:07 Send you anything you could. You could send it yourself straight to your ear Holes. Gay dude, I'm not going to listen to my own show. Come on, man, we all know you're vain. Look at that beard. Speaking of Jeff Shadow Band, you still going, man? What's up? Not really. That's why you haven't had me on yet. It's nothing's ever done, my friend, you know. Just kind of doing what you need to do when you need to do it. Yeah, man. If I wake up all day and I'm like, I'm going to do a Shadow Band episode, then boom, Shadow Band episode there shall be. Bro, I keep asking you to have me on when. What do you want, bro?

1:14:48 We do right now. All right. No, we can't do right now. It's late. See. See. Can't even commit. I'm ready to go. CJ, you got you got a couple projects, man. Go ahead and talk about those real quick, dude. Mostly I'm just doing philosophic talk right now, but we are working on bringing back the very first podcast I ever did, which was an audio drama called Van Wurst. If you feel like hunting it down on YouTube, the original episodes do exist, but we are completely revamping it, changing the main character from male to female. And yeah, and I've spent a lot of money on new equipment and received some new equipment for Christmas presents, and it's going to be a way better production than it ever was.

1:15:35 Thanks man. Yeah, I was on. Philosopha talk right now. I was on Philosopha Talk a couple weeks ago and CJ got my full story of everything. You know, if anybody listening to this right now wants to check it out, it's philosopha talk, Philo, Sofa. As in the thing you sit on, Talk as the stuff that comes out your mouth and just just. Sophical talk. Kind of. Sort of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like just laid back philosophical conversations. Just. Crazy. Boring. Listener listener discretion is advised in that episode.

1:16:16 Heavy talk on depression and suicide and stuff like that. So please do not you know if if if any of those topics or you're sensitive to, please don't go listen to it. But if you can stomach it, by all means go support CJ on his show over there and make sure. If for some reason you haven't checked out Shadow Band before, go check it out. Not like there will ever be a new episode, but you know. I've listened to 1 1/2 episodes of Shadow Band. That's more than I expected. I've listened to like, at least 20. I've listened to most of them.

1:17:01 I hate them all around like and I've. The problem is, my thought processes and theories on things evolve so much and so quickly that I can go back and listen to like, almost any episode. And just like I hate all of my ideas, I'm like, fuck bro, you're an idiot. That's why you gotta keep the show going. You gotta. You gotta. Hold the show. It's just so much work, man. I got so many other things going on. I'm trying to, like, run this business. I'm trying to like get out of the matrix build a bus. Go fishing out of the. System go fishing, you know. So it's like, do I wanna, So I want to like, maintain the amount of time and effort that it took in doing the research and the thinking and and the sitting and like connecting dots to come up with an episode on some shit every week.

1:17:44 Now it's just it's too much, man. Well, he could do the the bare minimum here on Infinite Rabbit Hole and still get his. I bet. See, I'm about that life, man. Show up here once in a while and blow everybody's mind and then just, you know, go back to the shadows. It's a it's a it's a dirty job if someone's going to do it, man. I'm going to listen to this. Fill a sofa talk, man. You sit down with a with a rabbi and I I'm all about it. Actually reporting with a pastor tomorrow to get the Christian perspective and then hopefully I can find an Islamic leader. And a mom, yeah. Right. Well, that has been it. That has been another episode of The Infinite Rabbit Hole. If you have any interest in checking out any of our socials, you can head on over to Facebook, Instagram, X. We are on all of them.

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