150. Aliens Are Here?

0:03 Imagine that this line represents a time to the present 1985 Future Past. Prior to this point in time, somewhere in the past the timeline skewed into this tangent, creating a law. Smith 1985 Alternate to You need Einstein, everyone else. Welcome back to the Infinite Rabbit Hole Podcast. I'm your host, Jeremy.

0:45 Today we're selling. We're celebrating 150 episodes of The Infinite Rabbit Hole. We have no scripts. Today we have a topic. But I have nothing that I'm going to read off. This is going to be strictly conversation based. And for the hell of it, I brought a couple of familiar faces or familiar voices for you guys. Let's let's start with Jeff today. Jeffrey, Jeffrey, welcome. Back Hello. What's up buddy? Not much, dude. How you doing? I'm good, man. I'm actually really excited for this because I. Like I was just telling Jake, I miss you. I miss you both.

1:31 I miss Dave too. I miss all of you guys. I haven't podcasted very much this year, so it's good to do this. Thank you. We we hooked up once and then. Yeah, we did. What do you mean by that? It didn't. It didn't work. We mean exactly what you think. Of you, man. You know. You know. Yeah, yeah. Dirty. Got it. No, we had a We had a failed recording. Yeah, we did. I know we did. Good conversation, though. Still thought it's a good. Yeah. I don't remember what we talked about, but yeah, it was pretty good. I wanna say it was somewhere along the line of what we're gonna talk about today, right? Yeah, I'm sure we'll touch on the same topics for sure. Yep. I'm sure too. Hopefully we go down that side and as everybody's already heard, Jake is back, Jacob, that's. Right.

2:19 Yeah, he was gonna mow his lawn. Yep. And then Jeremy called me up and said, hey, did you forget? And I was like, Oh my gosh, I forgot, give me 5 minutes. And then everything went awry with my computer. And here we are 30 minutes later. His hair looks like he tried to pull it out. Yeah, well, that's what happens. All right, and our last voice of the day, declassified day from the Hush Hush Society. What's up dude? Not much. Happy to be back 150, man, that's good. 150, that's awesome. Yeah, it's big numbers. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's it's a lot. Are your brains scrambled yet?

3:01 Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm definitely putting across the finish line on this next topic. It was supposed to be started here on the on episode 150, but it's so deep, so dense that it I've already been working on it for a month and 1/2 and I'm just not still not ready to present. I'm at almost four episodes on it. It's one thing I've always wanted to ask other podcasters. And since you're all here. No. How do you? Amazing, perfect. I got Jake's answer. How do you how do you not stress yourself out? Cuz I stress myself out giving myself a schedule.

3:44 But there's nobody that's like, you have to get these episodes out today, tomorrow, next week. But you're like. Fuck, it's got to get done. Like. Easy answer. I've quit twice. I just walk away here I am back for the third time. But it's easy. I just be like, all right, I'm done. I'll see you in a month. I think the only one that doesn't stress is Jeff. I literally have zero stress about this at this point because yeah, I have 0 schedule. I just drop them when I when I drop them. I'm doing Twitch streaming now with 0 viewers, which is awesome because the chat is empty and that's fun. And yeah, it's just it's easy.

4:24 But I did take like a nine month break because I was getting stressed. It did feel like a job, keeping up with the website and the merge, and it's just like, bro, I wanted this to be fun, man. Yeah, I made it. Not fun for you. I get it. No, not you like with my own show bro. Like. Say what you said. You said. What you said I didn't do my own shows for like 9 months. No, but yeah, I was just just. I was just just asking because you know, I decided to take on another responsibility by creating a different show as well. And that one I I don't have much stress. The I I think, I think I just this is for the Hushlings, but I think we just have to get them done every time. We've never missed an episode and I don't think we ever will. And so I think that's where the stress comes from. Well, I think, I think this show and and the Hush Hush society are relatable in that matter because there's a lot of research, there's a lot of editing, there's a lot of a lot of work that gets put into these kind of shows behind the scenes. I had a guy send me a a message on Facebook the other day or a couple weeks ago.

5:39 He was like, hey man, where's your studio at? I'd love to take a trip. And I'm like, it's in my basement, dude. I literally do this entire thing out of my basement and the schedule and everything is all in my head. Like Jeff used to get pissed because I didn't. I don't use a calendar. I just do it and that is very stressful. So to answer your question is I do get stressed, very stressed. I. Was getting stressed too with it was. It was a lot more, but it was still worth it when we were on the paranormal network because we were actually getting paid for our work.

6:21 But as soon as that dropped off, my motivation slammed into the ground because it's like, oh, back to doing a lot of work for nothing, you know, for some Atta boys on Facebook. So I'm just like that. That's what more or less caused me to to walk away for a. For a little bit because I was just going bananas. I'm like, Oh my gosh, this is so much. But now I'm actually episode may have dropped today, right? Fine. So I'm doing a series that I find interesting doing like cryptozoology case files. Basically like these are animals that we all know about, like the platypus or this one was the mountain gorilla. And this is the legends and lore surrounding it. This is when it was discovered.

7:10 This is a real cryptozoology in action. So I'm finally doing something that I actually enjoy. And so, and Jeremy has made it abundantly clear, hey, we're not on a schedule. He's been dropping weekly episodes because he's had them in the bank ready to go. He's like, but you know, if we go a couple weeks without an episode dropping, that's just the way it is. So we're trying to do a lot looser of a schedule so that stress point doesn't happen again. We're just like, I just can't do this anymore. This is too much. Yeah, like this episode right here. I'm probably not going to have this edited by Friday. I we're we're going to have to skip a week. It's just how it is I got I got so much going on with this topic that I've been building for over a month. Work, dude. I could edit it. I'm just going to mix the sound, put it on the same level and we put it out.

7:54 It's easy. This one's just a conversation. Yeah, I mean, we'll see. We'll see. Like I said, not stressing over it yet. No, it's a. Yeah, to answer your question, Dave, it's very stressed, very stressful. For anyone listening, do not start a podcast. We don't want to talk to getting. Agreed, agreed. It's a love hate relationship. Plus, it's like, now we feel like we have an obligation to the fans. It would be weird to just call it quits, right? Because like, even when I was gone for that few months, I was just like, gosh, something's missing. You know, there's a mix of things for me, to be honest with you, #1 is the crazies I attempted. I hate to say this, but there was a lot of crazies, man, that would hit me up all the time.

8:43 Like, hey, man, like, check this out and like, you know, I got a life, I got shit going on, I got, I don't have time to look at everything that everybody sends me. So, you know, I've noticed myself just leaving everybody on red now. Like, even people that I do know are texting me like normal shit. I'm just like I don't even have. The energy, the capacity to read this right now because I'm trying to keep up with like the fans and keep up with this and that, like it was actually getting to a point to where it was like draining on my energy outside of podcasting quite a bit so. Yeah, you know, but I actually got fired from this show. But that's another story. You did not get fired. What were the the crazy saying?

9:23 They're like taking pictures of their butt holes in your. Head. That's not or anything but dude, like all kinds of just random, random shit, man. You know, there's people on the Internet, dude. They just, they hear your show and like, that's great, but then they start sending you a link and then all that's cool. Thanks. You know, that was interesting, right? And then next thing you know, they're sending you like 12 videos a day and it's like, OK, bro, like. You've heard of Mel's hole. Here's Ben's hole. That's like. You know, it's not. It's a weird think, especially doing like a conspiracy show, right? Like, of course you're gonna get some. Some. Ohh, yeah, yeah we we get some some real good ones. We have the on the especially on the Facebook we have 10 or 12 posts that come in here and there and we're just like decline, decline, decline.

10:09 Some of them were like, well, this is. This is some some stuff we can't even show on Facebook and they show us some shitty stuff on Facebook. So yeah, we were like ohh God and then we get the occasional DMS here and there from random people that are like, ohh I listened like you said, I listened to your show and then yeah, they're they're they're like they're in like the 90 day black pill program and they're just like every single thing that that you've been talking about for the last decade. They're like. Have you heard about this? You're like, you're like, ooh, late to the party, but it's all good. Yeah. And I I would always fuck up the first time they'd be like, yo, they'd send me like something on like cymatics. They'd be like, bro, have you ever heard of Cymatics?

10:50 And then I'd go deep in a response like, yeah, bro, you know, and connect a few dots. And then now they think we're fucking friends. And I'm like. Well, Jeremy, what was that one chick that hit you up? She like took pictures of a Walmart and said that it was a top secret building or something like that. Oh man, so I don't know. Have you guys heard this before? I've, I've, I've been. I was in a backroom of a Walmart because Frank told me. That Walmarts were used to traffic kids underground. They were underground bases under Walmarts. Jeez. So I was looking for the I was looking for the tunnel entrance in the back rooms the other day at my at my job. Dude, it's obviously underneath the bread aisle.

11:32 Yeah. Everyone knows that you know the frozen pizza. You gotta find the FEMA. You gotta find the FEMA plans. It's underneath the short house. So it was, it was what about a year, year and a half into this whole thing where, I mean, I've had some really crazy things pop up in my DMS or my emails, Like some really, really crazy stuff. You get the real crazy shit in the emails. Yeah, and but this this one in particular was in my DMS and she she had said something along the lines of. You know, working for this top secret U.S. government thing where they were making cloaking devices for Humvees in Canada, for the US military. And she was sending me pictures of of the of the building and stuff.

12:25 And I'm like, first of all, if this is, why would you share it with me? Second of all, this is not secure whatsoever. This is Facebook Messenger so. Yeah, but she had a VPN so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I ended up telling her like, listen, ma'am, I I'm sure, I'm sure that you believe all of this. I'm sure you do. I don't. And she got pissed. She got really pissed. And she made like, this post on the infinite rabbit hole page like MF ING us and and everything. And I was like, OK, well, I guess you have to go.

13:09 The pictures she sent Jeremy showed me it looked like the backside of like a target or something. It looks like the truck base. Yeah, well that's that's where the trucks onload all the crappy products. No, I've had my fair share but it's you get one or the other extreme I I there's only a few of them that are right in the middle where. You get people that listen and just want to have a normal conversation. I love those. Absolutely love those. 95% of the listeners I never even know exist. Like Jake and I did our three-year anniversary just a little while ago and one of the things I asked I was like, hey, for my birthday or for Infinite Rabbit Hole's birthday, I want reviews and ratings, right? We got three ratings on Spotify.

14:03 That's it. Dude, it's hard to do the review rating thing. People, people don't even they don't. It's tough. You can beg. We beg every episode. Please rate the show. Makes us better. But hey, you know this. Little assassin swoops in with this one Star view. But we, we, we, we appreciate everybody that listens. If you don't rate us, that's fine as long as you're listening. That's that's the big thing. But to go back to that that spectrum of, you know, 11 extreme to the other, you know, like I said, 95% of the people I'll never know exist, never know that they're listening to the show, never know the impact or you know, whether or not they like it or anything.

14:48 And then the other side of the spectrum, and I'll get ones, twos, threes, maybe a dozen at a time here and there where they want to do nothing but talk to me 24/7. And if I don't, they start calling me a shill. I was asleep shell. Yeah, run into some of those too. Yeah. You used to be cool. Yeah, yeah. Used to be cool. What, like my bad brother? Used to shell out. It is. It is what it is, no. But honestly, I'm grateful for every single person who listens to the show. I wish more people would would would chat with us.

15:30 I wish they would. Answer the polls on Facebook. Be like, hey, what? What do you prefer? What do you what sort of content do you like? Type stuff, You know? See. Get a a good roundabout, you know. This is what you want, right? Yeah, you want to interact with your people. That's why I'm I'm starting to twitch thing even though I got 0 viewers, it's like hopefully at some point I can transfer over some of the people and maybe get some viewers over there and have like a chat rolling people, bringing up topics because you know it is sometimes. You're just free flowing about something and and then you need that that seed of an idea to like lead you further down a trail, you know. So sometimes like having that in the moment interaction with it, live chat, that that seems like a good idea to me. Hear that?

16:12 You're listening to the shows. The more you engage, you're a part of the show and you make the show better. Exactly, yeah, exactly. Love it. I wish. I wish we had more people to answer like I put out that post what 2 weeks ago now for a. Uh, an AM A and I got one question. Yeah, we tried an AM A with. That's, uh. We put that in the microwave for a little while to sit. I got one question and it was the guy that asked me pretty much where the studio was. And I was like, uh, yeah man, it's like. Basically, where do you sleep? I wanna know. What's your address?

16:53 What do you smell like? Do you have a dawn? Do you have a down pillow? Yeah. He's like in your basement as he's asking where's your studio? Do you sleep with your socks on? Halfway through the night, yes. He sleeps like every normal person with this he's. Listening right now? Sorry. We don't mean to. We don't mean to talk bad shit about you while you. Listen to one guy that sleeps with his socks on like motherfucker. Sorry, I didn't. I didn't mean to hijack the episode on a question about stress with podcasting, but. No, no. I mean this is, this is good. This is the format that we wanted for this episode. Man, we just want to chat. I brought a topic just to just to kind of, you know, start something to spark a conversation. But this is basically what we're going to do today. The topic that we will be talking about, though, is aliens.

17:43 By the time this episode, shut up, Jake. By the time this episode comes out, this could have all been debunked, could have all been proven false. We could add more information. Again, like I said, I don't know when we're editing it. I don't know if this is going to come out immediately after the cryptic case files Mountain Gorilla episode or it's going to be two weeks afterwards. I don't know. But we are here. We are, we are what, two days after this huge announcement from the Mexican Congress or somebody presenting to the Mexican Congress to alien bodies that they found that they had carbon dated. Somewhere between 800 and Or was it 700 and 1800 years old? Something about something about, right? So to kind of just catch anybody up on listen, you know if you're listening and you don't know what we're talking about, you can easily just I'm sure you can Google Mexico, aliens, Congress, right and you'll get these pictures and to to put it in a nutshell.

18:54 They look like little concrete statues because they are. But man, I'm crispy, boys. Kylee Peterson is definitely behind this. No, no. So this is, this is what This is why I want to bring this up, because there's a lot of people that are calling fake on this. I will admit from the outside looking in just by looking at the one with the flat face. Now there's two of them. Right. And there's one with a super flat face and it looks like it looks horrible. It looks like a paper mache version of ET. It does. And these things, these things are like 2 feet tall. They're very, very small. But the thing that gets me right, the thing that gets me, you know what? Maybe we'll jump into the the first question, then we'll come back to that.

19:44 The first question is 1 by 1. Dave, we'll start with you thoughts. Real. I really, I I would love it to be real. But I see a lot of stuff surfacing that that was that they were both debunked in 2021 and a lot of videos because I was you know, I saw it and I was like, no way. I was like there's there's no way this this is this is on TV. It is in Mexico. So it's a whole different country with a whole different set of rules and. You know, they could do what they want their their Air Force has in a pretty decent UFO, you know, experience I would say.

20:30 You know they have there's some very, very, very famous footage that they've obtained that that's been in the documentaries. But with these things, I mean the Xrays are very compelling. But I've watched a few videos where the guy really goes through and shows like the the abnormalities and like the inconsistencies of like if it was a skeletal thing. But you posed a comment on Facebook the other day is how do we know that all beings have the same as us? You know, we're just going off of our skeletal structures on all the animals on earth.

21:17 So that's literally the question I was going to ask everybody is, is how do we like, what are we expecting when we look at the alien? I mean the word alien itself, right? Extraterrestrial. Not from here. So I look at these and I say, yeah, on the outside looking in, these look horrible. They look fake. Right. Sorry, Dave, I didn't mean to hijack either, but I just want to put out there, you know, we don't know what an alien being is going to look like. We don't know. We don't know if they're going to stand 2 feet tall and look like they have flat protruding faces and their bodies decompose in limestone to A to a point where it looks like it's like it is limestone. Yeah, that that that's all I'm going to say. We.

22:13 Basically, I don't know what what are you expecting when when you think when the big announcement comes in the world that aliens are are here and here's a body, what are we expecting? Like, I'll tell you what, we all joked about that. You know what I'm just expecting? The thing has a mouth, a clearly defined mouth with me, Which means there must be a butthole of some kind. Show us that butthole. If it doesn't have a butthole, it's fake. It does have to have a way out, doesn't it? Maybe not, though. Maybe not. Yeah, maybe Total burn. Total Calorie Burn doesn't. It's got eggs in it, which means they have to come out somewhere back through the mouth. Maybe.

22:54 They explode out like like the Alien movies. Like the Zing maybe? Yeah, yeah. Coming out about the face, maybe? They sneeze their babies out. Who knows? He's. Gonna make a shirt for. Like a or a hat for infant rabbit hole that says show me that alien butt hole. I mean, they're very bizarre. They're very, very bizarre. I mean, and if they are they might not even their bodies might not even turn to limestone. That could just be the way it was something the mummification process or some type of thing might not even be decay or decomposition, but it's there's some, there's there's some interesting stuff because the biggest thing for me that that made me be like, ohh, well, this is probably horseshit, is the guy that had like a 25 minute video just about the skull that it looks like it's literally the dimensions of a llama's brain casing.

23:45 Yeah. And that was something that I was like, ohh, well, you know, you could quickly be like, all right, well, it's bullshit now because that's the way, but it might just be coincidental. I mean, there's other animals that are very, very similar that you might not know if you're seeing a, you know, like. A. A. A small domestic dog or a fox, you might not be able to tell the difference right off the clip. You know from a skull so there is that and then the metallic object bolted into the chest cavity is very strange. So I I want it to be real. But I with I have a whole thought on the way the UFO stuff and the alien stuff from that differs from the way I thought a while ago. And with everything coming out, I'm leaning more towards like, what fuckery is all this?

24:43 Because I want it to be real and I want it to be like, oh man, we're making headway. But the events that we just all dealt with over the last couple years makes me think there's got to be something to this other than just disclosing information to the public. You know, because it's just, it doesn't make sense that they're like, Oh yeah, let's let's do all this fuckery for the last three and a half, four years. And now, but let's tell everybody that there's aliens. They won't know anyways and they won't care. And then we have the longstanding joke that, you know, they could show us a body and we'll all be like, not it's bullshit. And we're doing that right now, so. That's exactly what I That's why I posed that question. Exactly.

25:28 Why, Jake, Jeff, What else you guys got? So honestly, man, I haven't really looked too much into this to be, you know, I've seen the memes in the pictures and stuff like that, but you know, I don't really know a lot of details, so I got a lot of questions which we'll get into. But my first thought just. You know, I just did a Google search and, you know, if you put it on the news tab and you just type the word alien, it's just weird because everything is just alien bodies, alien corpses, alien bodies, alien corpses, alien corpses. Yeah. And like, you know, like Dave was just saying, it's like, what is this? This is not normal behavior, you know, from the media. Really.

26:20 Just how they're acting here. It's like, it's very sketchy to me, man. And like, we all know that I'm the Project Blue Beam guy. I love that. That's like my favorite. But you know, I think it's something even more than that, it's something weird's happening where they're trying to seed something into the minds of the public. Some kind of threat, you know, aliens. It may not even be a threat thing. It could be, you know, a fake savior, you know, oh, we. Came in contact with these beings that are going to fucking save us. Give us all your money, you know or whatever. Give us your guns, whatever it is, but yeah.

27:03 Jake. Well, do you want me to get political with it? I mean, do what you got to do, man. What do you want? What do we? Like it's such a crazy distraction. It's another thing just like, oh, the new strand of COVID, right during an election season, you know, it's just another big distraction. Just get in the way of stuff. These look like the worst models I've ever seen, like the bone structures all messed up. The trying to say that it's calcified with limestone, but it still has skin like in the decay process like in the first.

27:47 Was I think month your organs and your skin is gone, right? Or it's just like. Well, be careful there, careful there because we, you know, if just like with fossils and and such sedimentary rock or sediment is really good at preservation, I mean. There's only been one dinosaur that's ever been found that had skin on it. They're all bones. Because why? Because all of that that tissue dissolves, turns back into worm food and like it just it goes away. You don't end up with lips or a nose, you know. The only ones that are preserved are the mummies that are wrapped in cloth, sealed inside of these tombs or bugs, can't get to them and then they have these perfectly preserved skin or or people that get stuck on the top of snowy mountains.

28:39 Right, there was that, that. I don't know what they even call them, but let's just say an early human. There was a woman that was found on top of a snowy mountain, and she still had skin, she still had red hair, all kinds of stuff, But that's because the climate up there preserved her by freezing her. In this circumstances, they've been buried in dirt, which means that that stuff would have gone away long before their bones were calcified. And even still, if we're all going to agree to that this thing is is a fossil in a mere say, let's call it 1000 years, then people better start rethinking when they thought when they think that dinosaurs all died out and how old these things are because everyone says, oh, you can't make a fossil and that. Period of time.

29:33 It has to be this crazy long time and stuff, Okay. Well, I'd say most of the fossils we have are from 7000 years ago. You know, it's like, it's just there's too many loopholes in it where either it's going to completely wreck how science perceives stuff or archaeology or whatever it is, or it's 100% fake and it's just being used as a crappy distraction because everyone's hot on aliens right now. Can I? Can I say? Something like that. Sorry, I just because he said something there and it just made me think about the carbon dating thing, you know? Yeah, we talked about this when we back when we did the dinosaurs or fake thing, you know, and carbon dating is only effective out to what was it like 50,000 years, right.

30:17 Something. Like. That, and then even still, you can't carbon date any kind of stone or anything. And if something's fossilized, isn't that technically? Stone. Like can you carbon date something that's actually fossilized? Or are they carbon dating something that they found next to it, which is what they normally fucking do Maybe, right? I saw I saw a news article where this Baptist Church decided that they were going to dry out chicken bones and get them carbon dated and they dated them at like 20,000 years from a chicken they just got the other day. Yeah, carbon dating, basically. My point that I'm getting at is carbon dating is trash, right? So and and not it. Maybe the science of it might not be entirely trash, but the way that they go about their carbon dating, like the whole process that they use is. So, you know, that's what I'm curious about is like, did they get results?

31:09 Well, they did get results. You said it was 1800 years, but like where did they, what was the specimen exactly like? I need specifics on what they got. Maybe, maybe it's not even political. Maybe it's just a giant distraction. Or it's like Jeff's all into the project Bluebeam. It's another thing to lead people into the idea that there's aliens and all this sort of stuff. When, truthfully, as far as everyone's concerned, except the government, there's no evidence whatsoever. There's never been a crash spacecraft. There's never been an alien, you know, presence. There's never, they never come to the the any government entity and be like hey we're here you know or anything like that.

31:49 The only thing that people have is saying, well the government is covering it up. I think it's just a it's just the next step towards leading people towards this idea that. The aliens are going to intervene somehow. It's an it's another invisible boogie man. You know, communism was one. Well, that's not really an invisible boogie man, I guess. But you know, it was terrorism then. You know, it's just always an invisible. In a way to give up your rights. Exactly. That's that's the point. He's getting well. That's political in a way, I suppose. Hold. On. Because I mean there's so like so many things. I should have wrote all this down because I'm gonna forget it all one. Get into the science behind the stuff.

32:30 Yes, they did do the carbon dating. They also supposedly did DNA testing where 40% of the DNA that they found. Yeah, but prove it, Don't just say. No, I know. Yeah. No, this is absolutely. The paperwork 100% DNA testing on Limestone. Well, no. Well, yes, but the outside of this thing is limestone. They were able to, they were able to extract DNA or. Or organic material from inside of this, this casing that it is, you know, whatever. This DNA is full of lime and full of stone. 40% human and what? No. 40 Not human with all this limestone. 40% of 40% DNA that has never been seen on Earth, like in any living species known to man.

33:22 There's 40% of this stuff in in these these things. That we don't recognize. So 60% of it they do recognize. 60% they said things like bacterias, the I mean, you gotta think that we share something some kind of if it's organic, it's got, you know the same building blocks you know DNA all builds off proteins. So yeah, we're gonna match to a point. I mean we match to a point with a snail. You know. Yeah. But if you think about it, I don't know the exact number here, but it's something like we're 99% DNA match with chimpanzees or 98 or 99% or something like that, like we're so close.

34:10 All the DNA says is. And I is going to go here and at years is going to go there and these are where the the two are going to be. It has nothing to do with like our similarities. It's just the building blocks of saying, yeah, we got. Right, right, right. Yeah, it's way more complicated than just that. But I'm just making the point to say that like you know, if if a 2%, like their way of dumbing it down for the for the layman, right, if it's a 2% difference from us from a chimpanzee, right. And we're talking to. A 40% difference from whatever this thing is like. That's a that's a lot. No, not it's not a 40% between us. This is. This is. Right. Shit, that's just never been discovered, I. Get. Yeah, they they literally did not compare this to human DNA whatsoever.

34:51 This was just DNA found or not found on earth. I wanna visit the whole. Preservation, right. Cave systems, which this thing, I just had it up. I want to say it was Peru, Peru or Brazil where they found these, these beings, right. But they found them in The Cave system. Now I did bring up, I brought this up in preparation for tonight because I knew that this was going to come up. Caves are notoriously good for preservation. We have found specimens of Cave bear of Saber Tooth of Megatherium with flesh on them still deep within caves. But were they also made of limestone? I don't know.

35:53 I don't know, Okay. I'm not gonna don't know. But. We don't know the circumstance in which they found them. We don't know, we don't know anything yet about how exactly they found them. We're not going to ever see a video of them finding these things, but just to bring it up. And you know, Jeff, I know you don't like government websites, but I brought up the National Park Service website and right here is a line about caves and the preservations of fossils, the relative relatively consistent temperature. And humidity of caves aid in the longterm preservation of organic materials.

36:35 Fossils formed inside the caves are are protected from the harmful effects of solar radiation as well as forces of weather and erosion. So we have found some very, very well preserved animals, ancient prehistoric animals in cave systems right here in the United States and. Obviously all around the world, I think one of the one, one of the more popular or one of the most famous mammoths that that I've ever been found. You know how we are, we're always hearing about these mammoths or or other creatures mastodons that are found in these giant chunks of ice in Siberia. There have been specimens found in caves. I mean I mean what what is a a mammoth doing in a cave? No idea.

37:26 But they've been found there. Go ahead but. Peru is 60% tropical force, which means bugs, bugs and decaying. Just wasn't this found by Nasca, which is the driest place on Earth. Yes. Is it? Yeah, the out of common. Another place thing. But and then I think. I think I got it all here. It's a really good fake, then. But, but, but then to talk about the whole. Government aspect to this, right? I think, I don't think that this is part of any government scheme.

38:08 I think that the way the the US is going to do this was going to announce extraterrestrial lives. You just just look at what they're what they're doing, how the the way that they're rolling it out with with announcing that UF O's exist, and then we're shooting them out of the sky. And then we're having, you know top secret clearance exmilitary come out and describe to a tee all this stuff including how how we're communicating with them in in Antarctica and now out of out of nowhere, you know some paleontologist, cryptozoologist out of Mexico ufologist sorry finds. Or gets in contact is given these these beings. I honestly think that this right here if anything threw a wrench in the United States plans because this is this is not how it it was.

39:08 It would have been rolled out. This isn't a plan of the United States. This is a globalist agenda, brother. No, I get that. I understand that. This is Black Rock and Van. This is this is way beyond national government. This is complete global if you believe in that control 100. Percent, 100%, but I don't think this is it. I think this is this is a wrench in in the spokes of the bike. Okay, this is different. This is something that I don't know. It just it doesn't match what they're putting. What's been going on. We've what we've been seeing is. Gigantic leaps and technology.

39:50 You know, people are finally learning or being told about these these craft that are flying at speeds and and doing maneuvers that would leave us scrambled inside if we if we were inside of these these craft. You know we're we're learning about all this technology, nothing about history. This is this is something that's that's brand new. This is a new concept. That's getting brought up. That doesn't follow the agenda that's going, that's been presented to us. Well, like they've said at the beginning, you know, this is, we're talking about a different country, first of all, right. So they have totally different viewpoints on a lot of things and how they operate and all this kind of stuff. So that could be part of it. The other part of it could be, you know, if if they're going to, you know, here's the thing, man, they want to they're purposely straying away from like. Coming out and saying like, this is entities from outer space and shit like that, right?

40:48 So it makes me think like they're going to somehow merge this into like this threat is here, like this is a threat that's already here, maybe like hollow Earth threat or like some interdimensional threat or something like this, right? And these these beings that are coming out right now, to me, in my opinion, this is just like another they're just going to flood the market basically with this type of stuff. To just prep the the minds again, this is not like every piece has to be solid. Like, you know, holy shit, this is 2023 evidence. Not like 1990 fucking four evidence, right? Like this is all some crazy shit. But they're just seating the minds, man. Because I think that when the when the move happens, it's going to be down the line, you know, it's going to be your grandkids that that see the move happen. I want to, I want to be clear, right? I'm not 100% sold on this.

41:38 I want it to be true. And I think that's why I'm fighting it so, so much because we haven't. We're what on day two or day three after this. I think it's day three now right after this was announced. And we still don't have any solid articles about debunking this. We have a bunch of people that are requesting to research it, to to do these tests on it. We don't know what's going on, but we usually by now, like, let's take dipshit who who found fucking Bigfoot's head out in the middle of the woods of Canada less than 24 hours. We found out that it was a fake. Right?

42:21 Now, to get onto the other side of things, what a lot of people are talking about is this, this guy, right? This guy, this. What's his, what's his fucking name? Jamie Mawson, right. I want to talk about this guy for a second. If if you follow the story, you know this guy one time had presented quote UN quote alien bodies and it found we it was turned. It turned out that these were not aliens. These were humans with deformed craniums. They were preserved in a similar fashion, I think to these, I'm not 100% sure, but now this is where everyone's calling bullshit.

43:13 This is this is the number one argument when it comes to people, especially on social media. They're talking about how this guy has already been talked about as a fraud. So I drove into the story. I found some articles from way back when. OK. This was in 2017. I believe it. Was way back then. Way way back then, 2000, 2015, 2017, maybe even a little earlier. I'm not 100% sure. But I I dove into these and I found articles and honestly these don't. It doesn't sound it. It sounds like when he presented these human beings and presented them as aliens, it was a is a case of misidentification.

44:03 He truly thought that he had alien beings on it. They had enlarged cranials, our craniums and it looked alien to him. You know, you you, you see the Grays on TV and that's what he was seeing. So he presented, it turned out after DNA test that it was 100% human being. And you know, he got made a fool of. Where everyone's talking about is that they're saying that he did that on purpose. Every article that I found from back then claimed that this was an honest mistake. It wasn't something that he, he didn't like. He didn't, like, take a human being and wrap it in sheepskin and called it an alien, you know? You don't think maybe.

44:52 Like, so who? Wait, who? Where did you get this? Who gave it to him? No idea. No, I did. I'm think, I said. Name again. Convenient it is. Well, really, no. Convenient. We don't know where. No, no. Got it. There is a lot of questions. There is still a lot of questions that need to be answered. Right, Jake? Jamie Moss in here. I'll put it in the chat. It's kind of spelled weird. Hold on, I got you. Was it Mau? He got it from a it's. Just some random guy and just showed up and like a hoodie. Well, no. The mask on. And he was like, here, take this man. I don't know. I have no idea. I have no idea where this guy got it. From where?

45:35 Was it some billionaire philanthropist that had it from his Smithsonian collection when he was stealing shit like Indiana Jones? No. He was given this. He he is one of the he is a a popular. He's even a a figure on TV when it comes. To I got it from No I know and I have no idea, No idea. I'm speculating. He's in that Ufo's in Volcanic eruptions documentary. I think he's in a lot of different, yes. Docs. I've seen that guy. Yeah, I've seen his face. He is. He is a figurehead for this community in Mexico. I. Think he's probably been on ancient Aliens or something before too, Brian. But the question is right, going back to one of the first things we talked about tonight, what is the rollout going to look like when it actually does happen? How is it going to happen?

46:22 And are we ever going to be presented something where we're looking at it and being like, yeah, that's a fucking alien, 100%, never, Never. Because it's going to be a hologram. No, it's not even that, man. It's just it's it's it's going to be whatever they want it to be, man. Like that's the whole point. And that's why these things are always. They look like us, right? Like they're always like some bipedal humanoid walking thing, right? I think we talked about this on the episode that got scrapped, Jim. Yes, true. You know, it's like we have this weird thing that we do as humans where we just want to think that other things that are out there that are intelligent would have anything to do with our form, right? And like this.

47:03 These fossils, quote, UN quote, are perfect example of that. Like, why do they look so humanoid, right? Like how do we know that? Why wouldn't they be mantids? Why wouldn't they be? Whatever. Or even NASA's saying it's fake and NASA lies about everything. Well, NASA hasn't had any anything get to them. And NASA and NASA's also the fucking American government. So I. Got this website up right now and I wanna, I'm gonna push back a little bit when you said that I don't like government websites. It's one of my favorite types of websites to cover websites. Because that's how I That's how I turn people into conspiracy theorists, bring them into their own frickin source.

47:44 I stand corrected. So Jake, I know you're gonna hate this one, but this is a topic that I would love to cover eventually, and that is the hybridization theory of how humans came into existence here on Earth. They're, you know, just in a nutshell the hybridization theory states that Earth was visited by Grays, right? Or similar and they created this hybridization breeding program with apes. And if you take, you know, just just really quick, you take a a a Gray alien and you make a hybrid with a Giganticus or even a gorilla, what do you get?

48:31 What do they look like? What does a hybrid between those two look like? A lot of people say humans sloth, yeah. It's a sea turtle, yeah. So could this be a piece in the hybridization puzzle? I don't know, but that's that's. Considering how small they are, they're definitely not catching a gorilla and and having their way with it. I don't know technology. Technology does things. It could be barbed. I mean, I can't. Walk in there and I can't come out considering. That I don't. Trust. Considering I don't trust the carbon dating, I'm just gonna go ahead and throw the age thing out the window and just. God damn it, I just lost my train of thought. What did you just guys say?

49:24 But right before that, Barb. Talking about Barb Penises. Before, right before that. Right before that, I don't remember the the hybridization. Theory. Oh yeah. How do we know that this isn't like some chimera program that the government, some government or shadow government even, right, was doing like in the 60s and this is just like some? Quote UN quote fossil of that, right? Like, again, I'm not going off of this, this timeline of it being 1000 years old. They said if. They said, you know, that this thing was if it has more than 30 to 40% of unknown DNA, that means there's other pieces to it that is known or is seen like we explained, like in the building blocks.

50:12 So there is that is a similarity to us if there is like building blocks. So that would mean it's either from here and just very, very different and and 1000 years old wouldn't even be old enough for it to be like you know something where we, I would say we it'd be hard for us to miss that. But the one the environment, but one thing that's interesting that this guy was saying and some of these guys are saying in this, this, this hearing was. Allegedly there were U.S. officials at the event as well. So if that's true, then it's definitely not just Mexico that's letting this out. So I'd say I agree with the it's not just Mexico, but they these guys are saying, you know, quote these specimens are not part of our terrestrial evolution. So they're technically not from here. And these beings weren't found in the UFO wreckage, so. And they were found in an algae mine. Yeah, so.

51:11 Specify. I mean algae. I mean that wouldn't it's it's so bizarre, It's just so bizarre that these guys had these. It's out of nowhere where we can't even get a a clear answer in a clear image video of anything. That's a craft. And let alone now we have these little rocky dudes that that they got these big fat caskets. But then again, we just had the Vegas thing happen too, so which was bizarre in itself, and it's gone, but that was that was the opposite. Those were big beings. According to the the craft that landed in some dude's backyard while he was fixed in his truck and the alien, these beings got out and he called 911.

52:04 It was a big 911 phone call. Pretty wild stuff. Keep the call 911 about the ghosts and their cabinets. I mean, come on. Yeah. Well, no, I would love to hear a follow up on that that video. I'll call 911 right now and tell them about a alien that's in my living room, and then I'll make national news and I can just make up whatever story I want around it because I made a 911 call. Well, you'll get a. You get arrested, you'll get a free room for the rest of your life, It'd be. Passed California. They will make me the mayor of this town, all right? Yeah, you're probably right about that. We like you. He's just crazy enough to be a mayor going down the checklist. Has he ever shit on a car while it was stopped at a red light? Yes.

52:52 Sign him up again. I I'm I'm not gonna be surprised in a few days where it comes out and it's completely bogus. But this is I I I find this extremely cool. This is this is to prove a point is I do have. A point on that we we will, whenever it does. If it ever does actually get rolled out that alien beings or extraterrestrials from extra dimensions or extra worlds or inner worlds or whatnot, or outer worlds.

53:34 If you're a flat earther, whenever it gets revealed, there will always be somebody to call bullshit. And yeah, this doesn't look the best. Not going to lie, this looks like somebody chiseled it out of out of stone 100%. I mean, the aliens don't even look like each other. This one has these massive, like, childbirthing hip bones. Well, I mean this. Crazy Crest on it's like collarbone area that's that's the metal piece flat out but that's the metal piece that was in. In it's like you could see that in the xrays. That's a metal piece that's jammed into a sternum. I don't we don't know the story behind that whatsoever, but it was you and I don't look like.

54:24 I just had a thought, what if, what if it is? What if it's like a sign up, but the opposite of what I've been saying. Like, what if, you know, all the stuff that's been coming out, maybe they're like, oh shit, there's a little too much coming out too fast and the public's getting a little too much information. Let's throw something in here that's just total bogus, like you're saying. Maybe it'll come out fake and then everybody will be like, oh, you know, and in an attempt to kind of like simmer down the the excitement of all the release of everything. That's a possibility. Yeah. But that would that would be the opposite of how news actually works that we actually we just got a mandatory like the military just got a mandatory training on what you put on social media whether it be real or fake and all these statistics showing that when say like some tragedy is going on right. The news will jump on it immediately, whether they have the facts straight or not and say this is what's going on. And if it comes out to be false, you know that it wasn't what they thought.

55:30 When the truth is disseminated versus the lie, that happens immediately and it's very widespread and everyone you know, knows what's going on immediately when the truth actually comes out and maybe it debunks the entire thing. It wasn't what the media initially said. I don't know. Let's just say it was a a shooting that happened, right. And everyone said and they say oh is this white guy. But then the truth comes out completely different race, different number of of dead. It takes months and months and months for the truth to actually be be disseminated to where people stop talking about the lie that was perpetuated by the media both on the right or the left. It was very neutral in this, in this thing. And it was basically, be careful of what you put on social media because.

56:17 It's better to wait for the facts to come out, because you might be perpetuating a lie and not knowing it. And it was it was crazy that the differences between how fast a lie will spread versus the truth, like a matter of days. And everyone knows the story and then something comes out as completely opposite. And then it takes months before people actually start hearing about that and stuff like that. Because it's just hushed. Because that's not the. The main thing that's not important, it was the the flare right at the beginning. That's what gets all the the attention of the news stories and all the, you know, gravity that goes towards specific channels or whatever it is. And so that would have the opposite effect here, right?

56:59 Even if this thing comes out as fake, I guarantee you we're going to have people six months from now talking about the aliens that were found in Mexico and either they have heard that it's fake and they just don't believe it. Or they haven't heard about it at all because their social circles are so buzzing about the aliens found in Mexico. So that would have the opposite effect because you know it. It's not like people will say the same thing that you say, Jeff, where they be like, oh, that's just the government trying to get us from from focusing on that. They're going to be just sucked in, this idea that there's aliens out there, you know, or just, you know, these. Random lights in the sky. Oh my gosh, they're aliens.

57:39 Well, they're lights. They have lights on the crafts. Why? How could they travel these vast distances? And why do they need lights, you know, to see in the dark when we have, you know, we have night vision goggles with our, you know, unsophisticated technology. It just doesn't make any sense. So. Night vision was taken from the aliens, so. Gosh. Well, they didn't get anything better because they've had that since. There was Project night vision scopes on on rifles in the World War 2, so apparently they gave us the crappiest version of their technology and then we had to advance it from there. It wasn't always this green, you know, these green optics and stuff, the real UFO boom, like when it really started to kick off, when we started getting reports of these things showing up all over the place, like they were abuzz that it just started coming out of nowhere.

58:37 We had a trickling of them. Prior was immediately after Hiroshima and Nakasaki, right? And so I mean, who knows? The science project has figured out thermonuclear weapons. Yeah, So it's they were definitely keeping an eye on us. Well, that goes to the hybridization theory. I mean it's it'll be the science project. Yeah. Just I just wanted to take a step back here for a second. Anybody listening who's on Facebook and is part of a UFO group if you guys see a string of lights in the sky? Do not report it.

59:26 It's a fucking UFO. I saw Starlink the other day at the beach. I was like, I was kind of shocked. I didn't know what I was looking at. And then I I realized I was like, oh man, that's probably Starlink. And then Whitney looked it up on her phone and they had, she put it in our area code and it said when it was tracking over us. And sure enough it was. I was like, that's crazy. That's when I hit you up. And I said I just saw the weirdest UFO or something in the sky. I don't know what I just saw. Yeah, I I haven't seen it yet. But man, the amount of people that post this shit. So you would think. They do it all over. Strange Wisconsin on Facebook. Oh my gosh, it's the worst. Can I, You know, here's like a kind of a random thought.

1:00:06 Also like, you know, there's this whole idea that there's this secret program or programs, right? This breakaway civilization. I don't know if you guys have ever really gotten into this, but that entities, you know, Raytheon, Lockheed Martin, certain entities within governments around the world and so on and bankers and so on, that they've like made their own offshoot of civilization utilizing these technologies that have been invented since. I don't know that the 40s, right, Right. There you go. So you know antigravity tech. You know, some people even think time travel, all kinds of crazy shit, right. This is all this breakaway civilization. So it's not the US government.

1:00:46 It's not even the globalist. It's not even it's none of this. It's like this own shadow organization. And I I see the word alien floating around, like I was saying at the start of this, right? And the word alien just floats around a lot, man. And I was just like, well, let me look up the true definition of what Alien means, right? Because I know there's always plays on words. They'll trick us with the words we're thinking. Don't matter anymore. That's going to be changed, but that's the point. That's the point, right? Like, they're tricking us with the language and the words and like, it's it's as simple as, like, okay, Here's one of because there's always, like multiple definitions for Alien, right? But just one of them is unfamiliar and disturbing or distasteful. Quote Bossing anyone around was alien to him, right? So it's like, it could be as simple as like, they're just referring to the shadow government, this shadow entity that is breakaway civilization that is unfamiliar and disturbing or just tasteful to our social norms. And they're just calling it alien. But the normal populace is taking this as alien as extraterrestrials, and they know this, and they're doing it on purpose.

1:01:56 I like that. I got to keep. I got to keep A roll of tinfoil right here. Just for you, bud. Bro, you're the one that's already drank the kool-aid saying that this is real and oh gosh, you believe it. You've already you got that alien picture behind your behind your head right there on your wall. You're you're so sucked in drinking all that kool-aid. Let me give you some, some Nike Nike shoes and a purple Cape. Don't, don't miss your comment as it flies by. Well, the reason I thought of that just was just to finish that point out was because they they, in my opinion, they right have to tell us what they're doing and they do that by this kind of shit.

1:02:45 They're like we did. Tell you We didn't tell you it was alien, you know. We just got to accept the right. We didn't specify here, you know. It's just the disturbing image. It has not been their own outer space or any of that exactly. It's like their own little form of getting out of the karmic cycle as they they just tell you like something very vague and weird and we just take it for what it is and they run with it. Dave, you still you still good man? I got a couple more minutes. Okay, same. I got. I got one one more question. We'll finish it up with this. I came across this the other day. I was watching the movie Dark Skies.

1:03:25 Just, you know, after the I don't know, I love Alien movies and. Yeah, I'm an alien monster guy I love. Those films, that new film that that's coming out? Jake, it looks great. That shit looks so fucking good, it looks. Terrifying. I totally want to see it. You guys. Dave, Jeff. You guys know what I'm talking about. No idea. Man, I don't really keep up with pop culture very. Much to be honest, the movie is called No One Will Save You. You have to see this trailer. Holy shit. Jeff, you have to. You have to all right. Have you seen this yet? I saw your post. Dude, this movie looks fucking phenomenal. Anyways, so I was watching.

1:04:08 Jump scare movie. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I was watching Dark Skies. I just like that movie. I watch it. I've probably seen it 20 times and it always starts off with a quote. Right. And the quote says something along the lines of whether we're alone or what's what's scarier, that we're alone in the universe or that we're not. Something along those lines, it's it's not exactly the the way it was worded, but I want to ask this question to you guys. Jake, we'll start with you because I think you're going to probably be a quick one here.

1:04:51 Neither. That's why I ain't scared of nothing. That's what I thought. Except heights. So, Jeff, what's scarier? Knowing that we're alone in the universe, or that we're not alone in the universe, that we're not 100% because knowing that we're not alone in the universe means this is an infinite possibility of what else is out there and what their intentions might be. If we are alone in the universe, that means that we're very important and that we were created by a creator, and that that creates a level of significance, not fear. I agree with Jeff Ditto. Dave, what do you think man? I agree with Jeff.

1:05:32 Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because because you do have the infinite possibility. I mean, we're just going, we're just basing it off of like how we would act as humans because we're we're violent, volatile and. You know, we could do some awesome stuff, but we're also, you know, we're a pretty insane species. We learn new technologies through the mass murder of other people. Yeah, like we're terrible. We're but. But if there is, I can't even say if there is, you know there's gotta be. Yeah, something else. Whether it's on our physical plane, like these little crispy critters that we were talking about today, or it's something interdimensional that's literally sitting next to you while you're taking a dump on your phone, do them scrolling, you know, like it's it's it's definitely scarier because we think of ourselves and what we would do, and that's scary in itself. So if something that doesn't even have morals or language. But is sophisticated enough to have weaponry that can obliterate a solar system and or just fabric of space-time by you know fan of seeing us you know that could that there is that possibility so that's I think more frightening than us being in a void by ourselves.

1:06:59 What's the Rick and Morty thing? Was it the? Interdimensional television or whatever, where they just kind of flip through channels and they see shows from all different types of dimensions and planes and like planets and stuff. If there ends up being aliens, that's what I want. Give us give us something good, I. Want to see channels from these planets. I want to see. I want to see the bachelor from Alpha Satari. That's. What I want to? How it's made episode on the Plumbus. Exactly. Yep. Good stuff. Schlebe.

1:07:43 Fucking love Rick. Morning. I gotta rewatch that. Now, thank you. That's what I I go to sleep to that daily. What's one of them is like a is a commercial for cereal is like iOS or something like that or. Apples. And then if you eat his, you eat his cereal. Beat the shit out of you. Good. Stuff. Yeah, it should be. So I I personally think that is, I think about this every time I watch this movie. I think for me personally, like on a personal level, it's scarier that something exists out there because you never know, you could fall into a situation like that, that trailer for that movie, absolutely terrifying. But I think for mankind as a whole, I think it would be scarier for us if we were alone.

1:08:34 I don't know. It's just if you, if you look at mankind, humans like we're just social animals. And if you look at all of mankind as as one representative one being trying to. Find somebody else to communicate with, somebody else to do something with, and they're just not there. But space is fake. Am I right, Jeff, What they tell us about it, what they tell us about it is for sure? I think. I understand. I get. I get where you're coming from with it. Yeah. But all we know is humans, right? You know?

1:09:17 Right. Like there's that aspect to it as well. Yeah. And if you don't believe in Armageddon or whatever, you're not, you know, Bible based like me. I mean, it's just an endless supply. They'll always be humans. And then we'll branch out to other planets, being terrible humans there too, flipping over rocks and throwing space worms into the atmosphere and be like, hey, look how far it goes. Could be. Or this could have been, this could have been plan. BI always liked that theory back in the day that Earth was Plan B and that the moon was the mother ship. And we put it there and then we we basically took it here and put it there. And here we are I.

1:09:58 Don't know about that. Could have been. Maybe we came from Mars. Maybe we came from another star system. I gotta. I gotta. Read Dude, the moon is the backside of it is like scaffolding Could be. Believe in this whole lie that it rotates the same speed as the Earth, and that's why we never see the other side of it. Come on, don't get me started. Don't mind. We don't have, we don't have another seven hours from the rec space right now. Yeah, I will be working on a Fermi Paradox episode soon. Yeah, and that that's one of my absolute favorite topics of all time. That's really we are too. We want to do it this season, but I guess we're not now so. No, I mean, absolutely.

1:10:41 We're always so close to each other on topics randomly. You guys should really plan that out, man. I feel like that would actually be a benefit if you guys maybe set set that up. Like, hey, let's try to do like similar topics around the same time. We've always randomly done that too, like we don't even talk to each other about topics and and then we'll end up having a conversation be like ohh, what's the next month look like? And it's like mirrored. And we're like, yeah, why don't you universe telling you it's a good idea. We do them together and then just both recordings go on each platforms. There you go. Well, so I don't know how you guys are approaching the Fermi Paradox, but more or less I will be looking at it from the point of view of what are the answers to it cuz.

1:11:29 One of my absolute favorite answers to the fermary paradox is the Dark Force hypothesis or the dark force theory, and it's absolutely terrifying. I'm not going to get into it. I want to save that for the actual episode. Good luck to anybody trying to find what that is, but you will once I cover it, all right? Does anybody have anything else? Yeah, according to actually someone else go OK, I would just like to say that I enjoyed this conversation and I missed all of you dearly. So I miss you too.

1:12:10 We should do it again. We should. We should. Dave. You got anything for us, man? I missed everybody. We should, we should all hug, feel like we should have big hugs. Well, while Jeff, while Jake is thinking about his final thoughts, Dave, PMK or Ultra, now you got to do something three times and he'll snap. Out I was just trying to find the way. It was a website from a cemetery and they said that it takes 4 weeks for your skin and organs to liquefy. Yeah, but that's in damp, like in the.

1:12:52 They didn't specify that. Who who gets buried in straight damp earth from a American cemetery website? Yeah, that's illegal. Coffins aren't fucking airtight, dude. They're not air airtight. They're. They'll put you in a in a cardboard. Sleeve They don't. Lock that shit. Worms still get in. No. Yeah. That's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah. Maybe the microbes inside your body eat you up. Dave, for some reason, if there's anybody listening to this episode and they don't know who you are, why don't you go ahead and fill them in there, bud? Sure. I'm Dave. Nice. I'm Declassified Dave 1/3 of the Hush Hush Society Conspiracy Hour podcast.

1:13:41 Mike is enjoying Halloween Horror Nights. At the time and my other cohort, Frank is in a slumber because he is tired. We are very similar if you haven't heard from, Heard about us, Conspiracy. Scripted fringe science Weird shit. Dick jokes. Barb. Yeah. Barb Dick Jokes and you want to check us out? Easy peasy www.hushhushsociety.com. All right, Jake. You got anything else, bud? No, I'm good. I think I've crapped on this enough. Sweet. I'll go ahead and just put out a few announcements. If you haven't had a chance yet, go ahead and check out the new companion podcast, The Infinite Rabbit Hole. It is called Docs by IRH, literally if you like the concept of the monologue.

1:14:41 Documentary series where we don't chat, we don't bullshit. It is just the story, the facts about the topic that you want to listen to. Head on over to that podcast. That's where we're going to post that. For now on, whenever we present a topic, we will cut it and we will make it a monologue so that you will get none of the chat, no the banter. Yep, there's that. And also, I have canceled and canceled subscriptions to the show. I know there was a couple people out there that did have subscriptions.

1:15:21 I am canceling that because we're going to go down a different route here. Eventually, I am going to go ahead and unlock all of the episodes of The Infinite Rabbit Hole. There was about almost 50 of them. That were locked behind the subscription. It was just old episodes that sucked. Before I do that, I'm going to add a new intro to all of them. Just explaining that this was one of our older episodes and we didn't know what we were doing for anybody that's listening to the show for the first time. That way they don't think that represents us anymore, because it doesn't. But it's fun to listen to the progression and. Evolution not.

1:16:01 Oh, I think it's great when we have the same, the same opinion for an hour and a half straight about some Bigfoot creature or something like that. No, no, no. It's it's fun for us to maybe listen to it, but when you get a new listener and they start off on episode one and they're like, what the fuck? No, this sucks. Who are these fucking dweebs? Great. No? So Spotify has actually announced that soon they'll be rolling out a way for podcasts to recommend an episode to start at. And with that being said, I I found that as a a great time to go ahead and and cancel it. We only charge $3 a month for those. Now they're just going to be free for everybody and then eventually we're going to start doing some actual exclusive content, whether it be Patreon or we're going to turn back the OR turn subscriptions back on.

1:17:04 We don't know yet that will be coming down the pipeline, probably not this year, maybe early mid 2024, we'll see. We're about to wrap up this year. Like that's easy. Yeah, so. Yeah, that's that's pretty much all I have for announcements. Last chance, gentlemen. Anything. Nope. All right, well, that has been another episode of the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. Hopefully you'll be hearing the four or five part series that I have on this very special topic. That should have been episode 150. If not, then then you don't.

1:17:44 But I would like to say thank you for coming out and sticking with us for 150 episodes of the Infant Rabbit Hole podcast Declassified. Dave, it's always a pleasure. Jeff. Jake, it's good to be back. I love that we're doing this again, Jeff, Jeff is back with us, but he'll, he will be. He will be, yeah, yeah, he will be. Topic. Depending on specific topics. Yeah, sorry, I got the ONS topic specific. Yeah, Jeff has absolutely nothing to say about Bigfoot or any crypted, so he usually just sits there and he's a rag doll anyways, so he's just not gonna join us on those, but he'll join us on most everything else, cuz I mean he's got a lot to say about a lot of other stuff.

1:18:37 So yeah, the old infinite rabbit hole will be back. And we'll keep going with the guests and everything until next time travelers, we'll see you the next FARC, the path of the Infinite Rabbit Hole. Goodbye. Bye, bye. Watch out for the barbs. I would like to thank you once again for tuning into the Infinite Rabbit Hole podcast. Please make sure to give us a follow and one of those beautiful five star ratings on your podcast player of choice. If you would like to join the conversation and stay up to date on all things Infinite Rabbit Hole, head on over to Facebook and search for the Infinite Rabbit Hole Facebook group. You all know it's us when you see the logo. If you would like to help contribute to the cause, there are a few ways to do so first.

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