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2:03 The world-famous most okay his podcast ever the infinite Rabbit Hole. I'm your host Jeremy and today. We're going to be diving into the news. Yep, somebody somewhere I forget where so that we should do another news episode. And we're doing it just because one person said it, whether you like it or not you, it was me. Yeah. You said it, you said, hey, let's do some news. Well, because of that one person. Whoever it is. We're doing humans today. Yes, the news before I introduce everybody, I just want to show off for all those Travelers who are watching on the YouTube. By the way, if you are watching on YouTube, please hit that, like, And subscribe button.

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3:37 I'm gonna mute. No. White macadamia nut cookie right now. Real go got it from public. You know, soft broke up. Remember, remember when I lived in Florida Public's had the best subs. Mmm, Publix is the jam anybody in Florida right now. You already know what's up your. My people public? Shoutout sign me up. Let me get that sponsorship. Did you have cash and carry over there when you were younger? Yes, I think so. I think they all turn to Albertsons Albertsons and then Eckerd. No. Who's Albertsons Albertson are member? Yeah, we had them. Yeah, cash carries.

4:18 Have good fried chicken. That's that's all I remember from cash and carry. Anyways moving on nobody else is eating so we're just going to do it in order of most colorful hair. Kid. Hello, how are you doing today kid? I'm pretty good. Actually, it was I had a good day today. I got I'm dog sitting with these two gorgeous Border Collies and work was actually great so I had a great day that's fantastic. Yeah good you deserve that? I think so. Thank you. Thank you. Good job.

5:03 Jacob, yeah. Say this I've been up since 3:00 in the morning so you're going to have to keep me very entertained. Also I'm having a better day since I found out that the one female host that we have will be down in my area in California, in just a few months in July. That is true, that is true. Yes, So we're going to get to hang out. And that's it. We're gonna do things. Yeah. Like they're going to watch the sunset from. From the city streets of LA, we're going to go to the beach and step on a bunch of needles. Yep, let's do it.

5:57 And that's it. All right, so Do me a favor. If you want to hear us bag on somebody else. Stay tuned till the end. We have one more beautiful email that we received. It was gorgeous. No, I wouldn't say bagging. It is what it is. You know, we're not going to bag on them but no good re-educate. People on our roles and what this podcast actually is. There you go? If you want to re-education and absolutely zero humor and no entertainment. Ooh, whatsoever. Wait till the end and you shall be rewarded? Rewarded educated here.

6:40 So I don't know. Man. The term re-education. Throws up some red flags for me but who maybe we maybe we are should make a camp for re-education, you know. Yeah. That's messed up. Dude? They're called they're called re-education camps. I really like, really learn math or something. I don't know. Yeah, because you have to re-educate. All right, so I Did everything last second and found a whole bunch of articles that we can dissect and and have fun with found a little bit of some cryptozoology stuff. Found some, some pretty decent stuff we'll get, we'll get into it.

7:25 Yeah. Yeah. So is it is there anything else that anybody else would like to put out before I come down like this and I'm going to first article music. Alright, let's roll. Okay, so from Fox, 8 and Cleveland Ohio published on February, 4th 2023, a data scientist by the name of flow. Foxing, says that Bigfoot sightings are easily explainable as being black bears walking on their hind legs. But the u.s. forest service disagrees as they stated black bears. Usually walk on all fours. While only occasionally standing on their hind legs for short periods, of time to get stronger and puts two senses such as sight. Smell cheese, who knew you had to be a fucking data scientist to get that one wrong.

8:13 The article goes on to refer to a peer-reviewed article called predicting. The distribution of Sasquatch in Western North America. Anything goes with ecological niche models, Boiling by AJ d-- laws year which shows that a high degree of Sasquatch. Sightings correlates with black bear, populations throughout the Western portions of North America. So in short, terms bigfoot-like, Woods bears like Woods there for Bigfoot or just Bears, my only question is, how do you use this answer to the Bigfoot, Enigma in non-western states with low, black bear populations, like Florida and Texas. Now I didn't say no population.

8:54 I know these states You have black bears but not enough to claim a hundred percent of the mass amounts of Bigfoot, sightings reported every year in these and other states like them. So what are your thoughts, guys? Clearly there has to be more Bigfoot or black bear rather in Texas and Florida. Then what was maybe you know because you're just wrong. You know clearly there black bear because some guy said it. I just found it on the internet. It must be true. Well, I would bet I would say probably 30% could be some kind of bear sighting. I'd be that would be a reasonable estimate for me. If this guy came out and said 30% of Bigfoot, sightings were probably some kind of bear, I'd be like, all right.

9:41 I can say. Pretty comfortably that there's there's definitely some bear sightings that get misconstrued misinterpreted miss, you know, labeled as Sasquatch sightings and it's mostly probably an accident. People don't mean to look at a bear and and see a Bigfoot. But this guy is claiming that every single one of them. He doesn't believe Bigfoot whatsoever. I did, I did take a whack at the article and kind of read through it today during lunch. And the guy was just stupid. I've I can't say any nicer. The guy was dumb like really dumb and I wonder what his beliefs are like.

10:26 Like I believe in microevolution, not macro-evolution right eye but I mean we can see that in Bears, right? We've talked about this ad nauseam, which is Bears on the West Coast or smaller than Bears on the East Coast or whatever, right? Or vice versa and that's microevolution adaptation, right? But, at the same time, Does he believe that the gigantopithecus existed? You know, it may be crossed the land bridge into North America. No, no repairs to yes. I mean, I like to throw that one at people, especially if they believe in evolution and be like. Okay, so clearly everything got smaller, right? It's like, so why couldn't this also be the case? And usually those people have never heard of the gigantopithecus.

11:22 So then I show, you know, these are the bones that are left over, whatever Jeff would tell you, they're Giants, which probably is the case. But in any case, you know, and it kind of stumps people and makes them rethink it. I don't think that it's as easy as a blanket statement, they don't exist. I would say, in the same way I would talk about aliens be like, well, it's for me incredibly unlikely but I can't say for 100% certainty that they don't. But Bigfoot, I mean, that's not a huge far stretch because it's just another animal, right? Just need a body. I'm just I'm yeah, I know. I'm at a point now where I'm just like, just just give me a body, that's it.

12:09 Well, you would say it was a giant. Well, you know, maybe I'm slightly jaded, I think about this topic, but especially like after looking at that Google Maps image that we talked about last time, you know, it's like I still don't agree with you whatsoever. Well, to Jeff's point, I mean, if a body was recovered or you know, bones were recovered obviously in like the pictures that people consider to be real pictures of the Bigfoot. There's a huge skull Crown right where it's really goes up whether that's from a the crest in the skull like you would see in a gorilla, you know, or whatever.

12:54 But but so it would look different than just a giant human being, but I don't know. Yeah, that's wild to hear it yourself. Point-blank thing and I mean, that's why we have the BFRO right. They'll go, they'll take a Bigfoot sighting and they'll actually go do research on it to find out if there's any Footprints left over. You know, if they could find any reason, why it would be there that sort of stuff they legitimize the claim, or they did bunk it because yeah, 30% of them could be black, bear, sightings and say another Maybe another 30% could be just people lying because they want that 15 minutes of fame. And then the rest of them are actual sightings, but we have people that work towards finding at that out. So, I told I think that it could be way more than 30% to be honest with you because I'm just thinking about Footprints, right?

13:54 A lot of people, a lot of people do know if you're into Bigfoot, you kind of have done this research before but let's just say you're not right. Anybody listen to this that maybe they're being introduced to topic. Now a Barefoot has been misinterpreted as a Bigfoot footprint for a long time It actually wasn't until about about 25 years ago, I want to say where they actually discovered that bear is have a tendency to put their back, paw down. Right at the back end of where their front. Paul was so it looks like an extended footprint. You can Google this bear prints and you know like let's say they put their foot down On the front foot and then they're back. Foot comes right into the same spot but just slightly behind. It looks like an extended foot looks like a big footprint and we've seen bears do this in you know softened Earth dirt and we've gotten really good study on this. This is this has been done so you when you get a footprint you really have to determine whether or not this is a bear. A print or a big footprint, and a lot of times I want to say there, there, bear prints.

15:20 And in fact, if you can't see perfectly like a large thumb, right? Then your most, your most likely looking at it. Bear print. This is, this is another problem, right? Like, how do we know? We don't know what a big footprint looks like. Oh yes, we yeah. We don't because we compare it to know. We have footprints that Unknown. Perhaps, and we can say, oh, this must be a Bigfoot, but we don't know that it's a Bigfoot. Could be some other hominid creature that nobody's talking. I'll giant now because of the midterms will break, you don't have a specimen to compare the prints that are unknown, that we speculate to be big for. We don't have a specimen to compare that to be like that is, in fact, a Bigfoot footprint.

16:04 So we don't know. Dear sure what a Bigfoot footprint is, you need to go and look at Jeff? Meldrum's cast collection. Auction. I think I've seen it. It's, it's obnoxious. I mean, he's got these things, organized, by different individuals found across state lines and miles apart because you know, that's fine. But there's no specimen to show. This is what this is. You know what I'm saying? Like, fuck Jeffrey. It's called Bigfoot. Whoa. I'd like to, I'm going to have to look this up. I'm going to write a note here after this, I'm sorry. Oh, I love you.

16:53 It's probably on the parade every time. It's just, you know, I like I said, I'm jaded about this so well, this is a bad podcast for you to be jaded about the topic of Bigfoot. Somebody's gotta do it. Yes. Yes, we're going to get some hate mail about Jeff the non-believer and big my talk about station. believer, you know, watching this YouTube video and I was, I think we brought it up in one of our episodes, but basically the guy took all the legitimate It considered Bigfoot sightings like videos and stuff like that and he showed the degree angle at which they bend their leg. Right?

17:51 Yeah. And then he had and it was something like, I don't know. It was something like 43 degree knee, Bend. And then he showed even like the guy who claimed that he was the one wearing the, the Patty costume for the Patterson gimlin Bigfoot film. And they're like, all right, well, show us how you walked across the creek bed, and he was doing a completely different stride and he's like, I know that sounds like it's, you know, Nonpoint he's like, but here's this. And then he showed videos of people walking all over the world and China Africa. Yeah, and United States Canada.

18:32 You know, just had tons and tons of videos of people walking and every single one, he was showing the degrees that people were bending their knees and is like, everywhere, unless they have a significant lymph or there is some kind of disability, whatever it may be, everyone walks the same around the entire Earth is like, except for big feet and you notice that the strides are perfect. They're not true. Over like, like, if you were wearing a pair of, you know, Sterling flippers or whatever scuba diving flippers, are not tripping over it and stuff. They have perfect strides. They don't hiccup when they're when they're walking. And I'll have to link that in this video because that's very interesting. You know, it's just like there are certainly differences in the way even like the arm stride you know coming up and closing the Fist and then swing it back down with the hand open. Like there's so many differences between the way we walk and they They walk and it's just it's not like it's rehearsed. It's just a natural movement, right? So I think that this guy, he must be biased and just unable to see past his bias in this circumstance, because there's a lot of evidence and I've never had an experience, but there's a lot of evidence to say that this is a real phenomenon. This is a real animal or whatever, right? For Franco's that really take the time to look. Look at the evidence that there is writing, just look at the sheer numbers.

20:02 It's really if I didn't see one, I, I think that I would still be on the side of believing that there's got to be something out there. I just, I don't know man. I just there's a lot, there's a lot here. It's easy for me. It's super easy for me because I've had an experience, right? So I can't it's tough for me to talk from that point of view. It's really hard but real quick. I wanted to bring this up. I don't know how well I'm going to be able. To show it through the camera but I will put a picture of this up when we're talking our when I'm editing for the YouTube. But just for you guys there, the the one over here, that's what a bear bear print looks like.

20:50 And that's been missing strewed as a big footprint, quite a bit. So I just want to throw that out there and this is also by Jeff Meldrum, it's right here. The guy the guy with all the pay Footprints this is A little pamphlet Jeffrey with. Check this out, Jeff look, those are big footprints. Yeah, I guess my point just completely went over your head but no I know I know I'm fucking you dude. Come here. I was tracking Jeff I'm messing with you but yeah I mean Jeff I agree with you you know it could be some other big hominid. The only thing I would say to that is that what's considered real Footprints, where you can actually see like you know the the toe prints and stuff, not like like The Impressions but like how our fingers have you, no fingerprints on them. You can see Those fine details and stuff. What's also noticeable is that like all primates, they have a mid tarsal break, which think about if the arch of your foot had another joint in there.

21:52 So you could pretty much just roll your foot off because it's like the toes and then this portion would have its own break in it so that you could you know yeah and it would you be able to see that? So seem Jeff meldrum's I think he's got like a documentary or something or he's got some YouTube videos. Well he's he's been in. All kinds of documentaries or TV shows about Bigfoot. He's kind of like the guy. Yeah, see, nice and hot stuff again. I'm not saying that basically what I'm saying is. I'm sure that many of the footprint castings and all this that are that are out. There are legitimate unknown, you know, growing up the quotes here like unknown Footprints, right? Like probably what we would think of as a Bigfoot.

22:32 My only point is we don't have a Bigfoot to compare it to say. Yes, it is a Bigfoot, and no, it's not whatever else. Use your imagination, dog, man. A wolf whatever. Yeah, dog know, how do we know what dog man's foot prints? Maybe dog man has what we think of as Bigfoot Footprints. We don't know. We don't have a specimen. A specimen to be like, oh shit, dog man, has Bigfoot feet in Bigfoot has Dogman, feet. We had this backwards, the whole fucking time. How do we know we don't think foots the kangaroo? We are. You know, I just realized We still have to do American Bigfoot part 2. Sure. Yeah we haven't even talked about those other types which are big Footprints. The gugg way are the document prints. There's a there's a, there's a couple more I mean we can use cover.

23:21 Anyways, all right, Jeff enter, what's your opinion? I think this. Anybody who just goes ahead and says Bigfoot doesn't exist, I think it being kind of ignorant. Hmm some things Bigfoot exists. I think it's I think it's very ignorant to think that there's there isn't an animal that we haven't found. I I want to talk a little bit about what Jeff's talked about on a serious note.

24:05 The real answer to all this Jeff. You're right is that we need, is, we need a specimen, that's the only way, you know, honestly, the only reason why I want a specimen is so that we can put laws in place to protect them. That's honestly, where, where my heart lies with these, with these things, but at the same time, Kind of hope that we don't ever find them, because then they're going to be poached, they're going to be tortured. They're going to be caged and put in the circus and avoided. Yeah, you know, and I mean, I've become so enamored and in love with, you know, it's romanticized it in very, very non-sexual way, like, at all that.

24:51 I mean, I just love big fat, man. I do. I'm absolutely obsessed with it and I don't really Want any harm to come to these guys? I know they're out there. I know 100% without shot him. I doubt. I know they're, but you're right in order to prove it to the, to the population of the world. We need a specimen. Simple as that. I won't argue that you're it. Thank you. I love you. You're welcome. Okay. I didn't say thank you but your I love you. I hope you also don't love me in a sexual way. No, not like that.

25:33 That song, the song lyrics that I put up on the, on the Facebook group. So not that way. No running off together with Bigfoot, maybe and mating with one. Maybe, maybe I just won't talk about that on the air. We'll talk about that in private. Are you guys ready to move on to the next article? Yep. All right. Let's see em live.com from Jerome Township. Michigan February 2nd 2023 at 9:45 on Wednesday. February 1st, a 40 year old woman called 911 to report that she had a chupacabra and a capybara, a giant rodent native to South America inside, and outside of her house and drunk, Township, Midland County, Michigan. A recording is making its rounds. After the, after the Recording of the call between a police dispatcher and an officer goes public in the call, the dispatcher is heard.

26:32 Telling the officer that quote, she's reporting an animal out back. She believes it could be a chupacabra the confused officer replying quote. What's the animal with a slight chuckle to his voice in which the dispatcher repeats quote, a chupacabra sir? The officer shockingly replies quote. There's been a high amount of sightings of those in the area Lately, by the way, after telling the dispatcher that he was in route. The article, then quotes the officer, who responded to the call a sheriff. Myron, green saying that again, quote after that, she said she was coming off some off using some intoxicated substances and that ends the article. So Chupacabras or bad trip math math. Now, I'm not saying chupacabras aren't real same. Same thing applies with big but nothing has changed here. However, this particular situation, I mean you said it, I thought was either, she's just ignorant and not that. I mean that to me mean, you just you're ignorant of things, right?

27:49 So she was looking at a dog or a fox. Ox and just didn't know what it was and call it a chupacabra and that's the Jewpacabra outside. I mean, people are dumb. Right? Let's see real people. You don't know what you don't know. So that was my first thought and then you said something about I don't know. Meth is what you said, she's coming down off and intoxicated substances is what they use in the article math. So yeah. Oh yeah, no, I can just imagine now, it's a nice mixture of heroin and LSD. Ellis deal. Do you have hallucinations like that on meth? You don't really see things that are real on LSD, but you definitely see distorted things. So, yeah, you can get tripping on LSD and see if an animal and think it was a chupacabra.

28:38 Here's what I'm thinking a capybara wasn't mentioned as well. So I don't really I don't think the inside outside of the house, makes a huge difference here but we could have Seen a capybara inside and a capybara outside, but the one outside looked a little more freaky. Because again, meth, it is one hell of a drug. I mean, what what brings you to say? It's a chupacabra while you're in Michigan. I mean, I hate to, to Barney style this for anybody to It's not familiar with chupacabras but they're from Latin America and the Southern United States chupacabras aren't really seen in Michigan. Like at all.

29:36 It's definitely a regional Cryptid and Michigan's not the region that's in. So this do you cheat she had to have a wicked cocktail of some strong potent, drugs to be able to look outside. See her neighbors Chihuahua, be my guess. Chupacabra officer shows up man. That's dog. It's a chupacabra sir. Could you forgot where? I know what it looks like? I mean, she might have been trying to. She might have thought Chihuahua Ah, maybe she's out and dumb and just said, chupacabra think in Chihuahua and she thought she was saying Chihuahua? Yeah.

30:17 The chupacabra. You know, the one fall to a driver is called something wrong thing from times and you're like, yeah, then somebody corrects you and they're like, no do you mean chihuahua? And you're like, oh yeah yeah Chihuahua Chihuahua. Yeah chupacabra chupacabra Loop out my front yard. But we want the yeah, you give you a chupacabra. Yeah, I'll bring it. Yeah, I said dude, I said here, if you were to Taco Bell and ask for a chupacabra, you'd get something. Yeah, they'd brought they give you a chalupa. All right, here's a challenge to anybody listening Travelers.

30:58 Here's our first infinite for heaven. Will challenge. If you could post a video of you going to Taco Bell and ordering a chupacabra. I will send you a ticker. You will win a sticker from the infinite Rabbit. Hole a sticker, but you have to post it to the group because I'm pretty. It may want to talk. That's fair, right? No, I don't know. It's got to be it's got to be in a group. It's got to be for infinite rattle. Anyways you guys ready to move on the next article? Yeah. Okay. Let's uh let's get this rolling because these get better. All right, lock it up the mirror, which is a, as far as I know.

31:44 It's a website from England, a February 7th 2023. So this was done today. For those wondering, yes, we are recording on February, the 7th and article has been published today by the mirror in the UK. That simplifies one of the biggest mysteries of the universe, the quote, paranormal and alien, Believers are less likely to get a good night's sleep. Wow, genius. What's that? Right into this brilliant piece, shall we? The Sleep scientist at goldsmiths University in London, conducted a survey of 1,000 participants on whether or not they believed in ghosts the afterlife and extraterrestrials and then measure how well they slept get this. When their study was finally published in the Journal of sleep research, they announced their findings that these crazed nut bags that believe in Little Green Men, and the spirit of their grandmother watching them.

32:33 Every time they take a shit, maybe experiencing height And anxiety at night which may correlate to a lower quality of sleep, this was published by people that get paid to tell the world something. I would have told them for far less money than they did. And by the way, I love us not bags. So don't don't take that personal cause I'm also one of those nutbags inadvertently in addition to some very solid reporting. The study also did show that Believers in the strange and the unknown are more likely to experience episodes of sleep paralysis and see shadowy Figures in the corners of the rooms psychology. PhD researcher bet tool roof is quoted saying, quote for some, these events are frightening and can cause anxiety and fear, which can disrupt sleep cheese, man. This guy is fucking brilliant.

33:26 The amount of people that claimed to not believe in any of this stuff was recorded at 31.7% of the participating group. Boop. We're 41.2% of the group believed that they may exist in that, there is no way to communicate with them. And a whopping eight percent outright said that they believed in spirits, aliens and monsters, and all of the other crazy shit. And guess what? That 8% sucked at sleeping. The majority of those that said that, they believe in aliens and alien abductions were most likely to suffer from a sleep disorder known as exploding head syndrome. A condition that doesn't actually explode your head, Head.

34:07 It causes a loud noise in someone's head when they are on the verge of falling asleep or waking up. So what do you guys think about all these nutcases out there who believe in these cryptozoological paranormal and extraterrestrial beings from outer space and other dimensions not being able to sleep? It's just like what I said last time, which is that alien abduction stories and sleep. Paralysis has insane parallels. Mmm. It just makes sense to me. Plus, if you're freaking out. Because, like, I read an article. It was a ghostly figure of a dead relative was walking, the dog who is calm through their kitchen and the guy who, the husband was just like, freaking out because he's like, we sleep right on. On the other side of that wall, and it's like, well, if you believe it's that and not like some Camera blur or maybe you know the kid running by or something like that, I mean, yeah, you're absolutely going to sleep hard, you know, it's gonna be rough.

35:16 Um, anything else here? I mean, this is I was surprised even find this as an article, be honest with you. I'm surprised you even brought it up. Yeah. It's kind of yeah. Right. I brought it up because of the sheer like, wow. Somebody got paid to write this article about. Yo people who believe in this stuff or are interested in this stuff can't sleep? That's I don't know man. You don't think it's true then? No, no, I think it's true. I mean, I can't sleep for shit so I definitely think it's true. I just, I just find it absolutely dumb that they're doing research into something that anybody could tell you. Look, I'm gonna I'm gonna bag on the Paranormal Network for a second.

36:18 Kind of left, a, a comment in one of their articles because they had a spotlight on the Fresno Nightcrawler and they they didn't interview the man who is who made the claim and showed the video because he's since passed away. But I think I interviewed his son and then his neighbors and ask people around Fresno. If they'd seen sidings, they said everything in that article except that there was a first video where the thing is just dragging across the lawn and all that sort of stuff. And they're like, oh ho super, super scary and whoso paranormal and I'm just like, wow, good article, and I just like, typed out all the stuff that that was obvious that they missed and I just like, Yeah.

37:08 I mean it makes sense. People get paid to stir up stuff, not necessarily report, anything of significant value or you know, whatever it's in a peer-reviewed journal. I don't even know what that means. Really just people that agree with them saying. Yep you got it. It's a it's a it's a piece of written work that Court's findings in specific scientific experiments. That then Go around from peer-to-peer in the same field and give it their stamp of approval as in like. Guess. This makes sense. Hey buddy bear with us while we take this quick break. well, think of it like and we keep talking about, you know, this idea at least me and Jeff do this idea that the government is trying to get people so sucked into the idea of aliens that they'll be able to like Nuke Manhattan and just be like, oh, the aliens did it right?

38:12 You know, it's just like, so if they, we could look at it from the other side, if they had said that, you know, believing in ghosts, and aliens have no effect on you whatsoever, you know. It would be like, like, oh man, she's bunch of shills but they're saying the exact Opposite. They're focusing on that sort of stuff can lead to, you know, sleeping problems and all kinds of stuff. So I look at this article, I'm like, well, finally, someone said it, Okay, but did anybody have to say it till I become true or to be true in your mind? No, I mean, I'm sorry, but I'm not sucked into the idea. There's ghost walking around or aliens, maybe it's just one of those things where it's like, everybody already knows it, but they're afraid to admit it. So the owner of, there's now a guy who finally wrote an article and now we can all agree and forget about it again. Well, Then let's forget about it. Let's move on.

39:10 So I'm good at running, all right, by the way, no just you know for anybody listening like these articles suck well yeah, because there's not a lot of news going on right now, so I guess definitely skimmed the firming chicken farms burning to the ground for some reason. Well, you know, if somebody else did some research, maybe we could talk about that, I don't get cancelled. All right? And ABC News, Long Island, New York, February 5th. Read a New York woman was found unresponsive and pronounced dead at her. Nursing Center in Port Jefferson New York, two hours later she was transported to a funeral home in Miller place where 30 minutes after her arrival.

39:54 She was found alive and breathing. This comes on the heels of another woman being found alive after being pronounced dead on January, 3rd in Urbandale Iowa. The 66 year-old woman was deemed dead by employees at the Glen. Oaks out, Alzheimer's, Special Care Center. According to a report from the Iowa Department of inspections and appeals. The woman was then transferred to a funeral home, where she was discovered alive, and gasping for air from within the cloth body bag. And in August of 2022 to Misha Beauchamp of Southfield Michigan, a 20 year old woman with cerebral. Palsy was declared dead after 30 minutes of Life.

40:34 Reviving measures This Time by paramedics. And placed into a body bag. It was discovered that she was, in fact, still very much alive when a funeral home employee unzipped. The body bag and was surprised to find tamesha staring up at him. Could you imagine that just having having some like cardiac problems? Really faint pulse and there are like all right they're dead and that you wake up you maybe you pass out wake up in the hole. That's awful. You got to think though that's probably happened in history. Well yeah I mean that's if you ever if you recall back in the 1700s they used to put a pole with a string hanging to it that went to a bell that That if they accidentally buried some alive, they could ring the bell. And be, you know, brought back that used to be an old tradition because people would be pronounced dead because let's be real.

41:28 People were drinking out of like lead cups and stuff, right? It was not that great. As far as Medical Science goes and they're like, oh let's bleed them with leeches. That'll get rid of the leprosy, you know, just like so yeah I mean it makes sense to me. Now that that sort of stuff is going on in today's Advanced Medical Science. That's insane. You You might expect to hear that from another country where, you know, they might still be, you know, struggling for that sort of information and being able to test that sort of stuff. But I mean, we could strap EKGs on people, it's wild. I don't know if Medical Science has advanced as people think it is, to be honest with you.

42:11 I'm not mistaken. I'm pretty sure. Like one of the biggest causes of death is medical malpractice. Police here in the United States. I wouldn't doubt it. But for paramedic to pronounce somebody dead, Then what couple hours later, turns out there alive that paramedic screwed over. Could you imagine being the funeral home employee though? I will share shit my pants. Holy yeah. I mean I don't mean to make light of a really dark situation, you know, you know, life isn't anything to play around with or joke around with but exactly what kids are just said and that should be in the fucking purse.

42:56 One who opened the, The Body Bag Man. Like yeah, we're giggling about it. But holy fuck. He's like, I know that's it's definitely some scary stuff and you know, I just, I just, you know, I was reading this article and the poor girl with cerebral palsy, you know, and she was locked in the body bag, it was ad, could you imagine what she went through? Like that, that's got to be, absolutely, she's probably got some more severe PTSD, our some, at the very least, Now, the family can sue the heck out of everybody. Oh yeah, another one's happy see. They're good for a little while I would imagine. All right guys. Ready to move on?

43:38 Yep. There's all right. Jeffrey. This one's for you? Daily Mail, UK January, 31st 2023 are 2022 and 2023 2023. U.s. startup colossal biosciences referred to by Jeff a few episodes back. Based in Dallas Texas, have officially revealed their plan to D extinct the dodo, the after the milestone, in scientific Endeavors and which was the dodos complete and successful sequence. The Next Step was obvious. The company has announced Announced that they will dedicate a hundred and fifty million dollars into the project that also includes bringing back, other extinct animals such as the thylacine or Tasmanian tiger and the woolly. Mammoth the creatures entire genome was unraveled with bone specimens and will be followed up with Gene editing, the skin cells of the nicobar pigeon which is the closest living relative to do.

44:37 Do they then plan to use this genetically, altered cell to create an embryo, which would be brought to term in a Surrogate in which they are hoping the results will be a hybrid reflecting attributes from the nicobar. Pigeon and the long-lost, do do with all of this. Having a targeted timeframe of six years. That pigeon looks nothing. Like it. It's way too colorful. Terrible. You much look like page--and. Does it really? I didn't look it up. Yeah, it's like a rainbow pigeon. Very bad idea. All of this Mammoth is a bad idea. I'll all of this. The extinction, which it is a terrible idea. There's a lot of this D Extinction going on, you know? And the other day when we were recording. You brought up the, the mammoth, dude. I actually sat down I laid in bed that night and just kind of looked into more what you're talking about because I wanted to understand more what you were trying to to talk about when it comes to like the the climate change and stuff and why they're bringing it back from climate change. I still don't fucking understand it. But yes, you're right.

45:38 That's what they're saying is one of the reasons why they're doing it. I just don't understand how The correlation fits the, it sounds more like something where they're trying to get funds than anything. Well, that's that's most of the stuff. But, you know, the like I would be for this D Extinction type stuff, bringing back extinct species if we had the ability to do it, like, all of this species, I don't know. It's so complicated man. You can just like bring one or two back here and there and like, just kind of whatever, see what happens. Like, All of those every species relies on other species. And there's like this whole cycle that's happening. So you throw one thing in there and you could totally throw everything off so you'd have to know somehow oh we got to bring back like these twelve species at the same exact time so that they can all support each other in this cycle. Then we have to also introduce this other species that's already here.

46:33 And then the extinct this one to make this not fuck up, right? Like this is it's too complicated. Well I don't see an issue bringing the dodo back. I can see the - being the shoe just you don't know, we don't know what kind of like disease that might carry or whatever. Like there's so many things, man. You know. True here is that we don't think about you know we how do we know what the mammoth carries for instance, right? The mammoth comes back and all of us know nobody alive today is ever encountered a living Mammoth. So how do we know it's not carrying some bacteria. Right? That's like, oh, now it's Unleashed and fuck. There goes the human population. Just wiped out. I mean, yeah, to Jen's points arm A dillos carry leprosy, really? Yeah.

47:16 So you know, if you handle them you're supposed to use gloves, you can eat them at your own risk, you know? But and that's something that was found out about that. People get leprosy from touching armadillos so it's like yeah, such a weird up there there. Turds have like noxious gas that comes off them or something. You know. There could be a remedy to that, which could be. Okay. We need a d extinct. This random insect right that counteracts this somehow. Yeah, they had one know that, right. And then what do we need to bring back to make that insect? Not be a detriment to the environment. So like again, it's too complicated.

47:57 You start bringing ship back. It's a problem. Not going to argue with you. I think I think you're right. Somebody should be paying me at least like five hundred grand a year to sit on a board and talk about just these types of problems. Right, everybody thinking about this ship before the signing papers and green-lighting who's that? Who's not thinking about this shit who came up with the idea of throwing dinosaurs on a fucking Island? Who is it that motherfucker, he shot in the face. You guys ready to move on? Yep, well. Okay, one more thing. Yeah. Yeah, Whitney, and I have been watching a show called to catch a Smuggler. It's basically the border security in international airports and a lot of times people will be food couriers and they'll carry food from other countries and stuff and bunch of boxes and they're always so concerned about what could be inside the food. So any sort of grains?

48:55 It's like, all right, it's a weevil. But what type of Weevil is it? You know? There's Little caterpillars climbing around in here and they will take the food and absolutely destroy it. They'll incinerate it because they don't want a pest that is foreign to United States getting into the United States because it could literally decimate. All of the crops that we have here, right? It could be like the Locust in Africa where they just start from one side of the state that they're in to the other and they just rip everything apart, right? And it would just be absolutely horrible. And yeah, I mean It's true. Like, what sort of impact would bring about a dead animal?

49:39 You know, have like I've read in places that mammoths were around up until the time of the Egyptians before they actually went extinct. But you know whatever you believe history-wise. Whether that's you know, six thousand years ago, eight thousand years ago or maybe even like 40,000 years ago. Either way, I'm sure the environment were was different. The plant life might have been different. Who's to say that? Like what mammoths preferred eat is even around anymore. And now they have to D extinct, a bunch of plants to, you know, it's just like what a weird cycle. So, yeah, invasive species are it's nuts.

50:24 It's something that is taken very, very seriously. Like for an example, when I was living in Maryland, there was an order. Put out that if you caught this fish, it's called a snakehead then you should kill it. That was that was the order, you know? This thing that lives its life. If you catch it, kill it, that's it. That's what you got to do. And I just brought up the USGS, the United States Geological Service order right here. It says, what should be done with a Snakehead fish, if you capture a snakehead fish, do not release the fish or throw it up on the bank. It could wiggle back into water. Remember this fish is in air breather and can live a long time out of water.

51:06 Kill the fish by, freezing it, or putting it on ice for an extended length of time. Photograph, the fish if you have access to a camera, so species of snakehead, fish can be positively identified and contact your nearest fishing game agency, or us fish and wildlife service. I mean, Jeff probably Knows this lionfish, those are Open Season. You see one you're supposed to kill it in Florida because they destroy the reef systems over there. You know, it's like same thing. Yeah, big want us to. Yep. Because someone had the bright idea to bring one over or a couple over.

51:46 And then they went ahead and release them when they got too aggressive and big imagine feet long. Imagine when the tick that we've all forgot about that lives on a mammoth fucking invades everything, right? Well, the tick wouldn't exist, well, whatever you get what I'm saying, right? The germ or whatever, the fuck it is, like I get it, I understand what you're saying. The danger that pollute, it sheds off that closes your Wrote the leprosy. Dandruff, it gives you straight AIDS here in my area, we actually got Japanese pine beetles which are superb. Yes, we have that.

52:28 Now to there's signs all over the cities and whatnot. That's a if you see this report it, let us know. Kill it. Get over this thing. Those straight kill like Acres of trees. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's yeah. All right. You guys remove em? Yep. Yeah. All right. This is my last one. The Jerusalem Post January, 31st 2023. A leading expert in the subject of alien. Beans is a man by the name of Malcolm Robinson, Malcolm hails from Britain and has written over 10 books on the subject of Little Green Men from outer space Robinson, who says that, most alien abduction stories and UFO, sightings are easily explainable by normal and rational Means states that there are still one percent of cases that cannot be solved with the same answer. But Robinson has been making headlines for a Twist on his opinions that have a lot of armchair researchers. Such as myself drooling, over the first few pages of Google, trying to find evidence that what he says could be true and what does he say?

53:37 He has gone on record recently saying that it is his honest belief that these beings do have an agenda and that he wouldn't say that they are peaceful Robbins believes that due to the thousands of UFO and alien abduction stories worldwide. They are obviously studying something about us and whether that is for Education, organ harvesting, interbreeding planning, attacks or farming. The likeliness that these extraterrestrials that have been visiting us as from as early as cave and Renaissance in proof of their paintings are not just here for nothing. There would have to be a purpose to go through all of the trouble for.

54:19 So do you guys agree with mr. Malcolm Robinson. No. Do tell. Why is there a remnant of 1%? Is that because there's no evidence whatsoever. So it's unexplainable. So someone just like, oh, yeah, there was a UFO that flew over my house and there's no evidence whatsoever. It's like, well, can't debunk that believable. What's the? I don't know. What's the thing, you know. It's just like And I don't agree that we've been visited for, you know, thousands of people have been abducted and visited and all kinds of stuff.

55:01 I think it's all to please. Answer to answer that one percent. You know, if I was doing a study, this is how I would do with cases, like that. I would just throw it out. Wow, I wouldn't even look at it wouldn't even give it the time of day. Unfortunately, that's it just wouldn't work for what I'm trying to study. So if I were to report that there's a 1% of things that I cannot explain, right? If there's some real things that I can't explain. Coming from me, it's because I simply cannot explain it.

55:41 There are some Mister, there is some form of mystery to it. And I would hope that somebody who has this much reach, as this gentleman does because he has come out log books. I looked up a couple of them and actually I'm familiar with a couple of them. I would hope that he is doing the same. That's pretty much our, the books. Any good are they like kids books? No, no. There there there, some of them are decent books there. I've read books that they were referenced in. I've never read any of his books. I'd that's I'm familiar with his books. I have not read any of his work. So what if he just filled 10 books with horse crap nonsense, all we definitely could have, you know, in fact that happens. It definitely does.

56:32 I'm not going to point fingers at anybody. But it does happen that that definitely fucking happens. Almost like the convenience or anyway. Oh ho ho. All right well that's all I got guys. You guys got any input on that last alien thing, Jeffrey. I mean, I think everybody knows what my opinions are on Aliens and UFO, sightings pretty sticky Comin. The government man. I mean it's another Nuance thing. Yeah, you got a percentage that's governments, you got a percentage. That's private corporations got a percentage. That's just totally black, budget shit can't even call it government, right?

57:14 Then you've got a percentage of weird, interdimensional shit. And percentage of, I don't know beings that live under the ocean. I mean do this just so much. There's so much. Man, again means give me a specimen Trojans. I'm so um, I'm just frustrated man with all this shit. I need a fucking specimen, you're punching your hand. Yeah. Be careful. Break your give me a fucking specimen. Any genre we can't give you a specimen bro. They tried in the Kelly Greenman episode in the bullet, went right through him. I'm just frustrated Kid what he got.

57:57 I got nothing. Honestly for this one. It's it's I don't, I don't agree that they're all Nefarious, I don't think it's all bad. For all we know, they're just trying to do research. We do it. Do we do. It's like we as humans are definitely guilty of doing random research on innocent creatures, makeup testing and whatnot. So yeah, we do it. What's stopping them from doing it, doing it. We don't think it. I mean we didn't think it was necessarily a bad thing at the time so maybe they have the same process thought process abducting people and shoving things up their butts is Necessarily a mean or bad thing. We're just trying to do research. Oh man I had I like that opinion. Maybe it's just like the way we discover when we discover a new animal.

58:57 One of the first things we do is capture one and take its temperature by sticking a thermometer up its butt and it's just a big No-No for older. Yeah 98.6 degrees. Next thing we got to do next thing they got to do is is figure out how How we how we create Offspring? So of course, there's going to be tons of science experiments, that department maybe involves shemale aliens. I don't know. Yes, yes, wild. So I don't know. I don't know if I've ever put out my opinion on Aliens and this whole thing, I am not against the idea of alien beings, I like the idea of interdimensional Better, you know, I I do agree.

59:48 I think that there's something going on whether it is you know what Jake would refer to as demonic or you know it is actually an extraterrestrial or some time traveling being from us from the future. I think that there's definitely something going on. I've read enough books where it's pretty high up there with probability You know, with this being true in some sense of the way. I wouldn't put it up there with Bigfoot, but I do think that it definitely deserves research, it deserves some time.

1:00:32 That's just my opinion. Cool did it. You guys ready to jump into this email? Yeah let's do it right? Talk some trash. Do we do we just read it word for word. Is that we're going to do? Yeah. Why not just meet us out and talk some shit because it's past my bedtime. Oh geez. All right, I'm going to leave his name out of it because like I said earlier, I actually don't, I'm, you know, I'm not really but heard about this. I just put out his opinion and it is what it is. You mean you didn't say anything that was really aggressive or hurtful or you know you just put out his opinion about the Flat Earth Theory episode.

1:01:19 So Hello. I was recently introduced to your podcast and listen to several episodes which I enjoyed a lot. Thank you. Whoever you are I was excited to listen to your first episode about the Flat Earth theory but was very disappointed when it actually began listening. I felt frustrated and a little disrespected upon hearing that the first 20 minutes or so. Wasn't an introduction to the idea or the Baseline Arguments for and against. But rather several of your host going on about how little it matters, and what a waste of time, it is to look into It was as if they didn't realize that they run a conspiracy theory podcast.

1:02:01 I didn't take it as honest disinterest because I haven't heard any of your episodes in which something like that was used as an excuse, for ignoring, or downplaying. The topic that could be said of almost any other topic for the Bermuda Triangle, the Bigfoot to aliens. But only this topic. Elicited this response, I'm very disappointed and felt the host claiming such weren't Doing so honestly or if they were honest that it was only because discussing this one Theory makes one persona non grata or passe and they didn't wish to appear to entertain low-class ideas, ridiculous. I honestly think it was a well-written email. I think the guy came across well with his opinion but I don't agree with it whatsoever.

1:02:51 Hmm. Like at all. Does anybody else want to go first? yeah, I mean I don't know what episode just person was listening, to be honest or whatever but clearly it was I wasn't there or something because you know, you were I mean I talked about the Flat Earth so much and I've gone back and forth saying that I think the Earth is flat and not be and now I'm at this point where I just don't know right but I don't know, man. Like I do not interact with David Weiss, pretty regularly, right? Like, I've talked to Mark Sergeant like there.

1:03:35 I don't know if you think that I everybody here just thinks a flat Earth is ridiculous. And beneath us than message me, I'll talk to you about it all day. Anybody else? Yeah. So gonna go first cancer. I saw that face. You're like, no. I'm I agree. I agree with. Jeff. So like mess is one of us. Let's just talk, you know, it's gonna show ya. Come on the show. Let's just, let's talk about it. Let's let's hear your opinion. Let's share it with the rest of the world to do. I would love to have a conversation with this guy. Why not? I think it was fun.

1:04:16 So I like the response that you gave to that comment. And it was almost verbatim. I was actually right around the motorcycle and I was thinking like I should stop and then like message back and then you you said pretty much exactly what I was going to say and the first part of it was that that was not a topical type, you know, report that was a conversation about the idea of it and also we aren't a conspiracy podcast like you said in that response. All right, we have maybe five to ten percent of our stuff over the last couple of years is actually conspiracy base. The rest of it is, you know, cryptozoology some paranormal, some research, spotlights things like that, it's not, you know, if you want conspiracy, you go over Shadow band, right? But also I'm not going to pretend to have interest in something that I don't have interest in. You know, one of the cool things about our show is that we have four You know, for people with different opinions, different likes dislikes, belief systems, all that, sort of stuff, you know, sometimes there's parallels, but I'm not going to pretend that Flat Earth is interesting to me or, you know, super important to me when it's not, you know, and that's if you want a podcast fully, yes, men that all agree on the same thing.

1:05:44 You should find a podcast that's like that because this is absolutely not that and it's interesting when we can all have our own opinions about Out these topics and stuff and it's just like I'm not my role on here. My name is Jake. I am one of the hosts of inference infantry whole podcast. I'm going to play the role of Jake, you know this. So I'm not going to pretend to, to Pander to the audience and be something, I'm not. I have my own worldview. I have my faith and I see everything through the lens of that Faith, you know, and sorry, but Flat Earth just isn't important to me. Now, if we have a topical report on it, you'd hear all the The arguments you to have all the facts and stuff and that's why we want someone to really come on with us.

1:06:32 So we can hash it out. One side versus the other side but not in like an argument sort of way but just a you know here's the proofs or here's the ideas you know what makes more sense. So everything, you know, I mean there's a totally different episode we can do for that but this one in its General, this was just a hey, let's get someone on that. You know, that's looked into this. For a little bit. I think it was a day from hush-hush and let's just chat about you know, what is Flat Earth? And you know what is some of the opinions on it? Yep. Same same, it's just to come on or to email some show because we didn't line up with your opinions. Just kind of ridiculous you know if to use your own word I'm talking directly to the writer of the email. I absolutely respect your opinion, I do. And I want to say thank you for for not being a douchebag about it because we get some douchebag emails. We get douchebag comments, we get some real stupid shit, and I'm respecting You by not putting your name out there, so anybody else can find you.

1:07:59 I just you know this is a topic. I felt like we needed a conversation about it. I emailed you back. Haven't heard anything. It's been three days. So if you are still listening, this this whole section is Is specifically for you. Okay, one. I I don't care. I'm not going to change my product. To fit your liking, I have fans all over the world, the show does really well. We pull in incredible numbers. We're doing just fine.

1:08:41 The way we're doing it. Not going to change it. If you want to come on and hear our opinions, or if you want to listen and hear our opinions then go to Spotify. Listen, if you want your opinion to be, told the only way to do that is, come on show, that's it 100%. We I mean I have been throwing Lined our request out there to get fans on the show or something, you know, I'm putting this out for anybody listening, dude, you are more than welcome to come on to the show. It is an extremely easy process. We're good people, we don't, you know, we're not going to make you uncomfortable, we're going to have a great time, and you can literally do it with with 10 minutes.

1:09:28 Notice. Super, super easy. Come on. Talk to us. I am not going to get it episode. Ready about Flat Earth one because I won't do it justice. I mean is it a topic that that's interesting and definitely belongs on the infinite Rabbit Hole? Yeah. All right. I would love to hear the history of Flat Earth and and really dive into why people believe this what I view is, absolutely ridiculous. But Jeff's gonna have to do it because I can't do justice to it. I can't open a book about Flat Earth and taken, seriously, I just can't so the only person On this show, that could probably do the topic like real Justice, and I don't even know if he would present himself. I honestly would expect him to get somebody else who can do it more Justice would be Jeff.

1:10:31 I mean, kid could take a whack at it, if she wants, I don't think Jake's going to take away I get it. I'd like to take a whack at it. I mean I could present something to you, but why would I present and, and Create a presentation on something that I find zero interest in. Doesn't make sense to me. Why would I do that? Why do I torture myself? Just so I can make one person. Happy not going to happen, dude. Again, absolutely respect you for the way that you handled it. I love everybody's opinion. Whether they're good or bad, and I just want to make sure that anybody listening to this that doesn't like our opinions or whatnot, it's okay. You'll wake up tomorrow.

1:11:19 I mean I can I can't promise that but the plan is for you to wake up, okay, 160,000 people died worldwide every single day so I can't even guarantee all of us will be good anyway. But yet though, if I did have to do an episode on that, it would be far more excruciating that doing the Fresno Nightcrawler for me. So yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to read through my reply. I'm not going to read it out loud because it's lengthy to see if there's anything that we really just missed on which I think we have it all covered. Yeah.

1:12:04 Seems Seems like Jake cover most of it and then I just piggyback off with Jake's it. It's a Navy joke. Sahabat those of you that aren't in the Navy will never never get it. All right. Thanks other branches understand to they'll never truly understand. But, does anybody else have? Anything else that they would like to put up? Cancer is ready to sling some at it. Nothing. Jeff. You ready for nighty-night? Yeah, man, it's bedtime.

1:12:44 All right. Jakey good. Yeah man. All right, well that has been another episode of the a rabbit hole podcast. I would like to thank you personally for listening in all the way here to the end. Thank you. And for that one person who emailed us, thank you, but you're wrong. If you are watching this on YouTube please hit that like And subscribe button. Help us out. We're trying to get to a point here on YouTube on the YouTube. The YouTubes where we can maybe, you know, do something with this platform until we get to certain numbers. There's nothing that we can do other than just post a video. So until next time everybody, we'll meet you right back here in the next Fork.

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