UFOs: May 2022 Congressional Hearing on UAPs

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I'm Gideon from the burning Vale
podcast and you for listening to

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the infinite Rabbit Hole.
Keep it up guys, you doing a

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great job.
On May 17th 2022 at

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approximately 10:00 a.m.
chairman mr.

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Andre, Carson of Indiana's 7th
District, slam the gavel down

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and introduce the purpose of the
United States Congressional

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hearing UFOs.
And you a peas were Take front

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and center for this day's
gathering.

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In this opening speech, he
details how a little over fifty

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years ago, the US government
closed down the famed Project

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Blue Book, the project lasted
about 20 years and was

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responsible for the
investigation into UFOs, and

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their impact on our national
security in 2017, we learned

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that our government yet again
began, looking into this

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phenomena only this time,
labeling them as you a peas or

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unidentified aerial phenomena.
This new project that was

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started, up is now called aim
sock or the Airborne object

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identification and management
synchronization.

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Group Carson went on to describe
how the stigma that goes along

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with UFO and UAP.
Sightings and run-ins is

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unfavorable to this day.
Military Pilots have been

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scrutinized for coming forward
and Reporting their experiences

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and extremely valuable
information has been swept under

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the rug and ignored for decades.
The purpose of this Gathering is

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to cast aim, sock, Out of the
Shadows to discuss this taboo

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subject.
And finally bring it out into

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the Limelight Where I Belong.
You a peas are real and the

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thread that they may pose a
national security needs to be

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mitigated.
Or at least that's what they're

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telling us.
Welcome back Tim's, in a rabbit

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hole.
Welcome back to the infinite

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Rabbit Hole.
I'm your host Jeremy.

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And today, we're going to talk
about the Congressional hearing

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of May. 17th 2022, where they
talked about unidentified aerial

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phenomena for those proper
people, but I'm not proper.

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I'm kind of a kind of a
knuckle-dragger.

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So I'm going to go with the UFOs
today.

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Yes.
And we're missing one of our

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cast members but it's okay.
We have a special guest will get

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inside here in a second.
Before we do that, lets go ahead

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and introduce Our Guest for
tonight.

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Jacob, going on, dude.
I just got done running at a hop

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in the shower real quick.
And now I'm here, I heard it was

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a whole mile and a half.
It was.

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Yeah, yes maybe pods have to
run.

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Now once a year, it used to be
twice a year now once so yeah.

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So it's just probably I heard
you're a shill to.

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Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I'm going to be agreeing

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with everything that the
Congress people said me to tell.

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Just people.
Yep.

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Me too because we are paid
opposition.

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Yep.
And we have been briefed on

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exactly what we need to say to
uphold National Security and the

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word of our masters.
Yes to everything.

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Except for if it's know Then
it's no right?

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Yeah.
All right.

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Ken's our Ally doing fantastic.
You are you ready strapped in

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got my seatbelt on?
Well, good.

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So seatbelt on here like a
five-point harness.

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I'm going to start just clip
clip.

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Clip the snap-in myself in
getting ready.

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I've got a new chair coming.
And I'm gonna do it too.

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Nice.
I don't like we're gonna match.

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Yeah, it's gonna be great.
So, this is kind of an impromptu

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episode.
We didn't plan on doing this

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yesterday.
Today is May 18th yesterday on

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May 17th.
Congress held a hearing on you a

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peas and the birth of a messiah.
So we're going to jump in and

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provide you guys some
information detailed.

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Description of what actually
went down yesterday, not too

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much but there may be some stuff
that some people missed and

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we're going to break it down as
best we can, but before we do

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that, we're going to go ahead
and introduce Our Guest for the

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day.
Our guest making his second

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appearance on the infinite
Rabbit Hole podcast and those

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that are, oh, geez of the show
will know him from a very, very

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early episode.
In fact, episode 10, he joined

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us as our very first guest from
another podcast The episode was

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on extraterrestrials and enter
dimensionals and he actually

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made me think quite a bit, which
is really awesome mystery.

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Mike from the hush-hush society
conspiracy our makes his return

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to the infinite Rabbit Hole.
Mike, welcome back.

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Can how you doing?
Hello.

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Hello.
Thanks for having me back.

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It's been a while.
I'm looking forward to talking

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UFOs because I am also a
knuckle-dragger that is that is

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good good because We need to
Barney style this because let's

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be honest, a lot of people out
there may not know a lot of the

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acronyms that were thrown around
yesterday and may not know the

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language that was that was being
used.

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So we're going to dumb it down
Barney style it and at the same

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time, we're in a pretty Advanced
and Mike I think you're a great

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fit for the night, man.
You like talk shit and I love

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it.
Let's do this.

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Yeah, I'm ready.
Just let you know.

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No, Jake and I are paid
opposition.

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Yeah.
And we are paid by the US

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Military, and the government,
and the president, and the dod,

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and the d0j J and the department
of the Interior, all the way

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down to the Department of toilet
cleaners.

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Yeah.
Even like the NSA.

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Yes, an essay and the na sa all
the Working government can

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afford to pay anybody that they
want because money isn't real.

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Yeah that's true.
We're just we're just printing

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it out from our home printers at
this point, O, we got to go to

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the grocery store, better.
Print 250c told you talk shit, I

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love it.
All right.

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Any beginning, thoughts from any
of you about yesterday be

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without getting too deep into it
because obviously there's gonna

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be a lot of talking points
tonight.

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General thoughts and ideas about
what went there.

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My speaking from the standpoint
of paid opposition or from Jake

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from Jake dude.
Okay.

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Well that case not a tremendous
amount was said, II was kind of

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getting to the end.
Before I jumped on here I listen

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to it in bits and pieces like as
time permitted considering when

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we had an episode last night to
write so I was just like, just

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working on where I could fit in,
listen to it, a couple minutes

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at a time, but all of the real
juicy stuff seem to be cut off

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immediately in the like, yeah,
that's going to have to be a

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private meeting and it's just
like, okay?

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So really, I don't feel like
really anything was said besides

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a bunch of Of, I don't knows.
I agree.

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Mike.
What do you think, man?

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What are your initial thoughts
on last night.

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So copy paste of 2021.
Thanks.

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Yeah, just more paperwork
involved this time.

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You know, these guys get
together and Congress of course

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is going to pull the power card
and say yeah you guys need to

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disclose all this stuff to us.
We need to investigate this blah

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blah blah.
The Pentagon kind of nods their

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heads and goes along with it but
in Reality.

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They're not telling us anything.
Even, even they, they could have

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the body of an, extraterrestrial
laying on a table, you know, and

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Congress could look at the
picture and go, it is this an

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alien.
Well, we don't know.

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It could be a Chinese spy, so
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anything.
And they just kind of they give

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a little bit of lip service to
Congress and Yeah, I think

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that's all we're going to get
for quite a while.

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Don't disagree.
At all, actually, like at all.

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Ken's are what do you think?
Another 50 years.

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I'll be using another 50 years.
I think we're going to get

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bullshit after bullshit after
bullshit.

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Oh, probably.
So my initial thoughts is

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There's gonna be a lot of
pissed-off people.

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Right.
And I think that, you know, when

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you're dealing with the
government, like what Mike was

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saying, you have to have low
expectations, so everyone

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thought that this was going to
be something where they're like,

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we're going to get the proof of
aliens and and they're going to

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tell us what UFOs are and
explain to us exactly the

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physics of interdimensional
travel and all this, right?

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But really what this was was
introducing a new office Under

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the department of the Secretary
of Defense are, that's it?

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That's, that's literally what
this was, was just

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reintroducing.
A project blue beam, like,

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office in the government.
That's what this was.

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It's it's, it's another budget.
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Yeah, that's what they
introduced it more so than an

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office, they introduced a budget
because from initial reactions,

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you could look at it and you
could say, okay, they gave us a

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whole lot of nothing.
But in reality, what it is is

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they gave us a whole lot of
nothing.

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Purposefully it gave us a whole
lot of nothing so that they

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could later go back to Congress.
And say, if you really want us

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to look into this two or three
trillion dollars might do it.

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Yeah, that that's probably what
was being said in that closed

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session.
So just for anybody, that didn't

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get a chance to watch or listen
to this, there was two sessions.

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One that was open and was
public.

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So that Media could be there.
We could watch it.

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We can listen in.
Basically, this is your dumb

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down bullshit stuff, right?
This is this is what they're

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putting out for public
digestion, and it's exactly what

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we just said.
It was, it was really wasn't

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much.
There was some some slight

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tidbits in there, especially
when we get down to one

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particular guys Comic-Con
fetish, which was pretty but

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Like Jake was saying, there was
some questions real like, hmm.

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I would like to know the answer
that and then all of a sudden it

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was we got to save that for the
later session.

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I mean, that's substance in
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The fact that he didn't just say
no, you know, like the exactly a

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couple questions came up and I'm
sure you have them written down.

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So, you know, hold my tongue on
those.

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But it wasn't a no or if that's
impossible or try again by or

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something like that.
It wasn't anything.

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It was oh yeah, we need to talk
about that in a closed session.

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It was like so, okay.
There's substance there.

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There is something to be known
there, which will be, we be

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sorry.
Will we be allowed to know that

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information?
Probably not, but it certainly

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doesn't help their case.
When it comes to does the US

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government know about these, you
APS, you know, whether or not

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their extraterrestrial or their
drones, or they're, you know,

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our drones or whatever, you
know, that's all, you know,

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Neither here nor there.
The fact is that with just that

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statement of like that sudden
like jerk reaction, we need to

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talk about this in a closed
session.

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Okay.
There's substance there so

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that's cuz that is cool.
And that's really why I wanted

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to talk about this because
honestly I didn't think that

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there was going to be anything
to talk about just like there

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wasn't 20 21.
I mean we still ended up talking

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a little bit about it in 2021
when they came out with the Tic

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Tac video the Gimbal and the go
fast videos which were pretty

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cool videos but we Seen them
already, right?

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The government just came out and
said that they were real.

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Okay, cool.
Anyways, let's get into this.

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I'm going to dive into the
opening statements by the

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chairman of the Congressional
hearing from yesterday.

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Does anybody else have anything
to say before I jump into that?

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- oh no problem.
Copy.

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All right so chairman Andre
Carlson began the hearing with a

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few questions and statements
directed at the two

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representatives of aim sock in
attendance with June 2020 to

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deadline for implementation fast
approaching.

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Why does the group not even have
a main director assigned yet to

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what are the obstacles of
getting it up and running three?

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Convince the audience,
especially military aviators

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that the culture has changed
around these objects and that

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those that do Do report you APS
will be taken, seriously not as

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coocked or convince US Congress
that you will be responsible

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with the facts and lead us to
their proper destinations 5.

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When aim SOG officially begins
in June, all conclusions are on

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the table 6.
And lastly aim sock is not

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starting from scratch.
Mufon the mutual UFO

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unidentified flying object
network.

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Has been collecting evidence for
years chairman Carlson goes on

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On to detail that the last time
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on uip as over a half century
ago.

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And that transparency is
desperately needed now.

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Okay, moving on to Congressman,
Eric, Ellen or Rick Crawford.

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Arkansas's, First District after
chairman Carlson's introduction

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to hearing, we were immediately
introduced to Congressman Eric

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Allen.
Crawford AKA Rick Crawford, mr.

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Crawford, a US Army veteran Came
Out Swinging with his first.

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I meant about is concerned about
China and Russian technology

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involving Hypersonic weapons.
And the concern that this

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Administration was so slow to
Sharon actionable intelligence

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with Ukraine's are the
ukrainians.

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It was, this reason that he
believes that it is the US

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intelligence agencies
responsibility to provide

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Intelligence on such technology
to the taxpayers.

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This directly reflects reflects
on the possibility that you ap's

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could pose a related threat to
the US.

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Us and the world population.
If they do pose a threat to us

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and our using similar or more
advanced Weaponry, where are

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they coming from?
He continues to state that the

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ICC or intelligence Community,
needs to balance known and

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unknown threats better.
We already do a poor job at

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sharing info, or finding info on
known threats.

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Let us not make the same mistake
with unknown ones as well with

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that being said, mr.
Crawford goes on to explain that

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there will be two meetings, one
being Into public, which we were

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all able to see and one closed
where they are to discuss

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classified and possible Public,
Safety topics involving you a

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Peds to round out the opening
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Chairman Adam Schiff,
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immediately following crop
congressman, and Crawford

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statements and questions.
The spot was delivered to

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Chairman Adam Schiff of
California, 28th District.

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He goes on to repeat it.
Lot of the information put out

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by The prior two speakers as
well that it is his belief that

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they need to do it better at
providing information for the

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public.
As it has, proven that this

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information or a lack of
information, only breeds

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distrust and the public the
first question that mr.

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Schiff, ask the panel is,
whether our instruments can

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measure the you AP, are we able
to record that there is actually

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something there?
The human, I unfortunately

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cannot be relied upon in some
cases, so can we measure it and

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prove its Assistance with other
tools immediately after his

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question, he tells the panel
about how his major interests

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lie in how these objects seem to
be able to move against the laws

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of physics.
So those are the opening

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statements from the three
chairman of the Congressional

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hearing yesterday.
Do you guys have any comments on

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anything that those three
gentlemen, put out for their

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opening statements?
Yes, you got.

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So there's two sides of me,
right?

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There's the key.
Curiosity side and then there's

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the okay.
They will that make sense.

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Sort of side.
The Curiosity Set Side says, you

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know, if their poses a public
safety issue or concern with

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these you APS, then why is it
being discussed in a closed

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meeting?
And then the okay, that makes

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sense side of me is saying,
Either.

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This thing is these things are,
you know, our aircraft or

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someone else's.
But that there's so much at

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stake with the real information
getting a leak, like, say this

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was a new type of stealth bomber
right there.

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I mean the I'm sure you'll say
it and I'll just say briefly but

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the the Navy, the Navy
intelligence guy.

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What was his name mr.
Bray mr.

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Bray, he got up there and he
said towards the end of one of

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his statements.
He said Let me be perfectly

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clear.
We never want our adversaries to

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know what, we're working on
essentially is what he said,

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right?
And so yeah, so that makes sense

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to me, you know, if this is
something where Congress needs

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to get filled in that this is
some new whatever that we're

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working on, okay?
That makes sense but still going

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back to, you know, oh, you know
possible public, safety

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concerns, honestly and truly.
If they knew that there was a

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nuke being shot at New York
City, I don't think that the

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government would say anything
about it.

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Sadly, I don't deserve in order
to not cause a panic.

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I think that they would not say
anything.

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They just let it happen.
And then be like, oh my gosh,

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react afterwards, not react
before.

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Like I don't have the level of
trust to say that or like a

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meteor is going to take out all
the West Coast.

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I have no trust that.
That would Ever be put out.

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It would just they just go
nothing.

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We can do, they're just going to
happen, right?

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Let them live the last, you
know, 20 minutes of their lives.

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You know, thinking everything's
okay until this Fireball smashes

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into the into the the ground,
right?

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But it just like And that's
concerning to me.

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Write that whole, you know, this
could have a concern for Public

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Safety.
Just saying that, but we're not

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going to talk about it so that
anybody in the public can hear

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about it and we know for dang,
sure.

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That Congress isn't going to put
that crap out right now.

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Put out anything, you know.
So it's just like, so I

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understand parsley and I decide,
I'm like, that's pretty messed

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up.
You know, where they doing?

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Are they probing everybody?
You know what's the concern are

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stealing cars?
Like those catalytic converter

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the thieves?
Yeah.

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They're aliens.
You know, travel light-years

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thousands of light years for
your Cadillac to get the

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Platinum at the catalytic
converters.

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Yeah, ends are Mike anything
from you, too.

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I got nothing.
I will say that it's kind of the

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the general government answer to
everything is that this is in

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the interest of National
Security.

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This is in the interest of this
is your best interest.

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We're looking out for you.
Yeah.

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And you know, it's interesting
that they're talking about the

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technologies that they're trying
to keep secret the technologies

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that we're working on or the
capabilities that we have within

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our military aircraft.
Or anything of the sort.

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But, you know, in the same day
just what?

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15 hours ago this morning, NASA
said that China is incredibly

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good at stealing our technology.
NASA said that.

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Hmm.
So, I wouldn't put it past them

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to say okay yeah we're going to
we're going to safeguard these

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secrets and we're going to do
all that but I think

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definitively they definitely
have an answer.

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But as I said, previously, it
boils down to how can we get

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more money out of Congress?
How can we get more of a budget

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to put towards that?
DOD, that doj, that defense

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budget the military spending?
That's really all it boils down

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to it boils down to how can we
exploit?

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This, they have the answers.
They're just trying to be

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mysterious about it and they're
trying to To, you know, act like

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they don't know things and
they're there in the dark about

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all this technology and they're
in the dark about all these

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videos.
They're not sure.

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They know.
You know, if you if you know the

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history of your government then
you know the history of lying

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and it's pretty evident they did
the same thing in 47.

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You know they did the same
thing.

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The last time they were in front
of Congress and then what

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happened?
Congress went and approved a

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black budget and our military.
Harry grew exponentially and the

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same thing is going to happen.
They'll give them another year,

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they'll say okay?
Why don't you guys come back and

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tell us what you have in?
See what you figured out?

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Did you guys get a director you
know stupid stuff like that?

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They're going to hold on to but
in a year you're going to see

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the same shit.
Except next year, it's going to

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be the ask next year.
It's going to be why don't you

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sign this check and we can
really get down to work because

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then you're testing the patience
of the American people.

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Your test.
In the patient's for Congress

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and that's when you really get
the ball moving and that's when

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you kind of paint people into a
corner to get what you want.

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It's all power moves, that's all
it is.

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You know every governmental
department and sector is all

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sectioned off, it won't work
together.

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They're not they're not you know
just look at the military after

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time you guys don't even work
together.

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So right.
You know it's it's it's no

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different with in the
government's in the FBI and the

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CIA and all these other, all
these other groups.

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It just doesn't, it doesn't melt
together.

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It's all a power play too.
Get more over and over and over

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again.
So I don't know I'm skeptical of

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the entire meeting really but
that those those opening

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statements are pretty much like
a non start.

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You know it's it's we don't know
anything you know will tell you

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later now back in a year and be
like I'm sorry mr.

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Schiff, we only were able to buy
five staplers with that three

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trillion supporters were So Wow,
Mike.

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So there's some stuff there that
I didn't think about such as

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Maybe Jake and I can kind of
expand on this because we are

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shells, government pox paid
opposition.

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The thing is, is that the
military has an extreme issue

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with under Manning right now.
People are leaving left right

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being kicked out left and right
and people are not joining.

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So, the budget there, this may
be a grab for money.

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You're right.
This just might be and let's

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just talk about this
non-existent space force.

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Jake, it just a quick question.
Have you ever seen one of these

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space force?
Guys, I have I went to you.

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Yeah, I went to vannin
Vanderburgh Air Force Base 2

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hours Northeast of or Northwest
of my base and it's a, it's a

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missile base, right?
The shoot missiles off there or

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Rockets rather like rockets into
space gets shot off there.

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And I actually did see some of
The Air Force guys running

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around with space force was
which allowed patches on their

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pretty nuts and then they
actually have space for scorns

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over there too.
Like in the in the was it the

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store that they have whatever
they call it for Air Force guys.

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But yeah it was you're ever up
there again?

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Can you grab me was?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
I'll be up there and said we

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really cool.
Have you really freaking cool so

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I've never seen a space first
person or Guardian as they're

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called.
Never.

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I don't know, I don't know.
Oh, what the fuck?

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They base Force Guardian.
Yeah, that's what they're

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called.
They're called guard.

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Honestly, I imagine it's similar
to.

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If you got a job at SpaceX, you
are not going to be piloting an

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aircraft or spacecraft, right?
You are not going to be one of

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the astronauts per se because
usually those are like, you

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know, military brass, right.
They are the ones.

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I even like NASA.
Right.

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My my cousin just got a just got
selected for the NASA program.

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And she is a commander in the
Navy, and she's going to stay in

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the Navy but work for NASA and
generally that's how it goes and

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maybe some of those guys leave
and they go join us civilian,

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you know, sector like SpaceX
right.

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But they need mechanics.
They need electricians.

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They need are Framers, right?
They need all these sorts of

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things because everything that's
on an aircraft is on a

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spacecraft, right?
More or less.

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So I believe it.
It's pretty much what it is is

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that they're maintainers for the
rockets and things like that.

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Now is it up and running to the
point where they're actually

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doing that sort of stuff.
I have no idea, right?

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I'm not.
Authorized to have that kind of

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information at all, but but I
think that there is, there is a

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reason for them to exist, but I
don't know what the reason is

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for the space force to exist,
right?

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So the thing is like, okay, I
can get that.

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They're super small right now,
right?

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All right, in that, and they're
probably in the face.

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Like what happens in the Navy
when we get, like, new aircraft

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stuff?
Navy is not allowed to touch

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00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,500
things, until it's gone.
Through all the tests.

457
00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:27,300
Ting, and right things and stuff
like that, 35 and all that

458
00:27:27,300 --> 00:27:27,900
stuff.
Yeah.

459
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,500
Right it's all done by
civilians.

460
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:32,400
First before all the
Publications, are written and

461
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,300
everything and then we're able
to get our hands on it.

462
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:40,300
But the thing is, is like, you
know, I'll go to medical and

463
00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:43,300
I'll see soldiers, I'll see
Airmen Aussie Sailors.

464
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:46,500
I'll see Marines, I have never
seen a guardian.

465
00:27:47,900 --> 00:27:51,500
Not not never not once.
Have I ever seen one of those

466
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,100
lockers?
But I go take some pictures of

467
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:56,300
them.
They'll freak out.

468
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,300
Yeah.
Like like Bigfoot.

469
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:04,900
Right now in the military show
me that now more quality fuzz to

470
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,500
yeah and I'll pay I'll get some
patches and coins for you guys,

471
00:28:08,700 --> 00:28:10,300
they're pretty cool looking.
Yeah.

472
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,500
But no Mike might be Beyond
something as in like, you know,

473
00:28:14,500 --> 00:28:17,500
that would be a reason why the
space Receiving.

474
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,400
Exist in the first place, right?
Because what does the space

475
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:26,400
force do as far as I know what
they do is basically what the

476
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:31,700
Air Force does and that is
satellites and Communications

477
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:33,500
and stuff like that.
Right there, they're not

478
00:28:33,500 --> 00:28:38,500
actually going to go live up on
ISS or other space stations, you

479
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:42,600
know, they're not going to go
travel the distance or travel

480
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,200
through the universe looking for
extraterrestrial life in battle

481
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,200
and galactical Wars and
schilling, not going to be like

482
00:28:52,100 --> 00:28:55,600
Super Troopers are not.
The only good bug is a bug.

483
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,600
This Super Troopers.
Yeah it wasn't super know Bruce

484
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,900
was the smoke.
Sorry, I always control your

485
00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:12,000
thinking.
Starship Troopers.

486
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,300
Thank God.
That's what it is for the win,

487
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Aang, Starship Troopers.
Yes, there's people in there.

488
00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:26,100
The only option.
Yeah, Starship my part.

489
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:30,500
You know what, basically, what
we know because Mike also hit on

490
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:32,800
something else is that we don't
necessarily work with the other

491
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,700
branches, right?
I mean, there's some, there's

492
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:38,900
some co-op stuff that goes on
training, exercises, whatever.

493
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,100
But for the most part, we don't,
I mean, the whole, you know, if

494
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:48,300
you look at the timeline of
things that happen with space

495
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:52,000
and you APS and everything.
First, you have the birth of the

496
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,000
space force.
Then you had this drop of insane

497
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
information to from 2021, that
was just nothing.

498
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:03,400
And then you have this
Congressional hearing of 2022,

499
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,700
it's like he's saying it's a
progressional step.

500
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:10,400
Boom boom.
Boom like theirs.

501
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,300
Setting up something, you know,
I'm playing a part of Jeff right

502
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:19,300
now, right?
And saying this could be a

503
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:23,400
fucking them.
Setting us up something.

504
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,900
I don't know the exact word
because I'm not doing nukes

505
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,400
space nukes.
You sure fake sobbing Fades

506
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:35,500
space.
Damn it Morty.

507
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,300
Good stuff.
Mike I try I brought my be game

508
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:43,000
today.
We're all on seasoned.

509
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,000
He's right now.
I never bring the a game, not

510
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,700
even to my own shows through.
Good good, good people.

511
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:51,200
Don't expect much of you.
That's good.

512
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Just like just like this
Congressional meeting.

513
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:55,500
Right.
Low expectations.

514
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:57,900
Oh yes.
And now the whole world is

515
00:30:57,908 --> 00:31:00,600
talking about it.
Are you guys ready to move on to

516
00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:04,000
the the panel, which I miss?
That's what I'm calling because

517
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,400
I don't know what the hell.
The, the official red room is

518
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,400
warm but the two people that
represent a massage, I'm calling

519
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,400
them the panel for the day.
That's correct.

520
00:31:15,500 --> 00:31:18,200
So, let's talk about their
opening statements and their

521
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:23,100
opening statements start with
After mr.

522
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:26,700
Shifts opening comments, we are
introduced to our first member

523
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:29,800
of the two-person panel that are
representing a massage.

524
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,000
The Honorable Ronald Moultrie.
Mr. Moultrie begins his

525
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,700
Deliverance by introducing other
person on the panel for the day.

526
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,300
The deputy director of Naval
intelligence, mr.

527
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:45,100
Scott Bray, mr.
Bray will also be speaking on

528
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:48,600
behalf of the Navy's,
unidentified?

529
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:54,000
Aerial phenomenon, task force.
Or you a PT F, quick.

530
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,400
Turn back to Ronald, moultry.
He is the undersecretary of

531
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,100
defense for intelligence and
security Now, mr.

532
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:05,800
Moultrie immediately goes into
defining the term do AP, which

533
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,100
he defines as Airborne objects
that when encounter cannot be

534
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:14,000
immediately identified, then
states, that, however, it is

535
00:32:14,100 --> 00:32:18,200
Apartments contention, that by
proving, or by providing an

536
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,800
appropriately structured
Collective.

537
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,700
Add a with rigorous scientific
analysis.

538
00:32:23,700 --> 00:32:27,600
Any object that we encounter can
likely be isolated,

539
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:32,000
characterized identified.
And if necessary mitigated, he

540
00:32:32,008 --> 00:32:35,800
then goes on to state that they
know that our service members

541
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,900
have encountered, you APS on
many occasions and in order to

542
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:41,600
determine their threat to Flight
Risk, they are committed to

543
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,300
discovering their Origins to do
this.

544
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,200
They will they will be looking
into one potential breakthrough

545
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,900
platforms and potential
Technologies to US government or

546
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:56,400
commercial platforms, three
Allied and partnered systems and

547
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,600
for other natural phenomena to
complete this new Mission.

548
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,000
They will be opening up a new
office Under the Umbrella of the

549
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,300
office of the secretary of
defense.

550
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:11,500
Will they function statement of
quote, facilitate the

551
00:33:11,500 --> 00:33:15,400
identification of previously
unknown or unidentified Airborne

552
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:20,800
objects in methodic methodical
logical and standardized manner?

553
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,400
These goals are to ensure that
we are one working closely with

554
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,500
operational Personnel on
training and Reporting

555
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:31,800
requirements to developing data
in intelligence requirements.

556
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,500
Three standardizing and
integrating processes and

557
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:38,500
procedures for collection and
operational, surveillance and

558
00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:40,900
Analysis.
And Reporting leveraging, our

559
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:43,700
research and development
capabilities to improve

560
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,700
detection, characterization and
identification of you APS

561
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,200
developing mitigating Solutions
and procedures and Strategy and

562
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,900
policy Solutions, mr.
Moultrie then goes on to outline

563
00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:00,400
how this new office will work
closely with the office of the

564
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,000
Director of National
Intelligence.

565
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:10,100
The FAA, the FBI, the Department
of Homeland Security, Noah the

566
00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:15,400
DEA and National, as well as
National Labs Moultrie continues

567
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,900
by stating that the office
commits to openness and

568
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:19,600
accountability to the American
people.

569
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,199
However, it is also important to
keep National Security in mind

570
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,500
after the honorable Ronald
Moultrie and introduces the

571
00:34:28,507 --> 00:34:32,100
basics of the new office mr.
Scott, Bray and begins his

572
00:34:32,100 --> 00:34:34,199
opening statement.
He begins by explaining that

573
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,900
since the early 2000s, we have
seen an increase in

574
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:41,400
unidentifiable and unauthorized
aircraft or objects, and

575
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,500
Military and training zones.
Reports have proven to be

576
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:48,300
frequent increasing and
continuing he then goes on to

577
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:51,300
outline, a few important points
on the Navy's.

578
00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:54,500
Unidentified aerial phenomena on
task force, such as the

579
00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:57,300
importance of mitigating
unauthorized objects in or

580
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:01,100
around our no-fly zones military
areas for safety of our

581
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:03,800
personnel and operations.
It's the Navy's.

582
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:09,100
You a PTF took a quote-unquote
data-driven approach to the

583
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:12,600
investigation to collect as much
data as possible.

584
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,900
And use all available resources
to address their findings.

585
00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:21,300
The main objective of the, you a
PTF was quote to transition you

586
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,400
AP efforts from an anecdotal or
narrative based approach to a

587
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,800
rigorous science and technology.
Engineering Focus.

588
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000
Standardizing reporting was one
of their very first First

589
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,700
missions, which helped create a
standard way which you AP

590
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:40,100
encounters would be reported for
proper classification and

591
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:43,100
documentation.
This was completed by adding a

592
00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:47,600
forum for reporting to the knee
board that pilots wear during

593
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,600
flight operations and additional
forms for post-flight

594
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,400
debriefing.
Seizures next, they tackled this

595
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,700
stigma stigmatization of
reporting, UAP encounters with

596
00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:00,500
the new forms and reporting
procedures.

597
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:04,700
The stigma of reporting.
Uh, AP encounters became much

598
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:08,200
less taboo, due to the increase
of reports being made on a

599
00:36:08,207 --> 00:36:12,100
regular basis to this date, they
have over 400 reports,

600
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:16,300
categorized and standard and the
standard and Navy's Naval.

601
00:36:16,300 --> 00:36:19,500
Aviation is now if you see
something, you must report it

602
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,300
and their last efforts to date
have been to incorporate new

603
00:36:24,300 --> 00:36:28,600
equipment on hand to help record
the presence and encounters with

604
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,200
said you APS along with these
primary goals.

605
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,600
There are a few others that were
in.

606
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,800
Want to the task force, as well,
such as one, a sibling subject

607
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,500
matter experts from the
Department of Defense and

608
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:42,500
intelligence community and other
US government agencies and

609
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:45,800
departments to developing the
research and Acquisitions

610
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:50,400
communities with independent
partners and research.

611
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,200
Labs, three brought in subject
matter experts from outside

612
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,900
field, such as physics Optics,
Metallurgy and meteorology for

613
00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:00,700
those that don't know what
Metallurgy is.

614
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,700
It is the study of the The
property in the Netherlands, mr.

615
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:08,700
Bray then describe, the task
force has learned so far, so

616
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:13,700
such as there is one, there is
rarely an easy answer to any of

617
00:37:13,707 --> 00:37:15,900
these sites immediately after
this answer, mr.

618
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:20,400
Bray plays the very first video
of the day, which seems to show

619
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,600
a video taken by a pilot of some
aircraft recording out of their

620
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,300
port and pilot side windows.
That shows a very brief flash of

621
00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:30,800
a silvery object near the front
of the aircraft.

622
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,500
Be this video?
Shown that many reports are

623
00:37:34,508 --> 00:37:38,200
simply filed showing something
like this with very little or no

624
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,300
other content whatsoever to when
one of these reports are able to

625
00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:47,400
be classified it is often
categorized into one of the five

626
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,600
categories, one Airborne clutter
to Natural atmospheric

627
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,700
phenomenon 3 government or
Industrial Development programs.

628
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,300
For foreign adversaries systems
and five other.

629
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:06,600
After this part of his opening
statements, mr.

630
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:12,000
Braid been presents.
His second video, which seems to

631
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,200
show a recording of flashing
triangular lights off the west

632
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,900
coast of the us.
The video is taken on board.

633
00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:20,900
A u.s. naval ship through night
vision goggles with a single

634
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:24,000
lens, reflex camera.
These you AP is remained

635
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,300
unsolved and unresolved for
several years after this video,

636
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,000
mr.
Bray.

637
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,100
Then shows a picture which is
taken from another coast and

638
00:38:33,100 --> 00:38:36,100
years later, and also through
night vision goggles with a

639
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,200
single lens.
Reflex this picture.

640
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,900
Also shows a triangular light
and he explains that.

641
00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:44,700
This is an image of an unmanned
aircraft and due to the light

642
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:48,000
passing through the night vision
technology and the single lens

643
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
reflex.
The image comes out, looking

644
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,300
triangular BS.
If you ask me, he then goes on

645
00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:57,600
to explain that proper
classification is not always

646
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,800
achievable like this example and
he admits that in the past the

647
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,900
intelligence Community has had
to be less Forthcoming with

648
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,100
results, as one would hope, but
this unfortunately cannot be

649
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:14,000
completely eliminated as some of
the information gathering.

650
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,000
Can be sensitive to National
Security, Bray.

651
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,700
Then leads into the next topic
of his opening statements and

652
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,500
that is what the task force is
doing now.

653
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:25,600
He explains that they are
focused on the official

654
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:31,100
transition, into the new office
of am SOG this closes, the

655
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:36,000
opening remarks all lead parties
and panelists present for the

656
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,600
Congressional.
Hearing thoughts.

657
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,100
Bitches.
Grapes ideas, everything

658
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:43,600
thoughts?
Yes.

659
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,900
Okay, so I watched both of those
videos, right?

660
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:56,700
Hmm, and I mean, it was the
easiest way to just dismiss both

661
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:00,900
of those things by showing the
grayest crappiest footage

662
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:05,000
possible, right?
Like, I watch them for like 15

663
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,700
minutes, trying to get a bead on
that silver ball that By the

664
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:13,100
airplanes over and over and over
and over again.

665
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:17,500
You mean to tell me and all the
technology that exists on this

666
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:21,100
planet you couldn't have
enhanced that image and slowed

667
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:24,100
it down.
So it was like going at like a

668
00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:25,600
hundred thousand frames a
second.

669
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,300
Like I see on Slow Mo Guys every
night on YouTube, like all of

670
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:32,500
the technology in the world and
you had to pull out something

671
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:37,500
from that stupid, like, movie
playing app that everyone has on

672
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:41,200
their crappy desktop.
Computers and and try to.

673
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,300
Oh, there goes, oh, there it
goes.

674
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,600
Oh, you missed it.
There it goes like the entire

675
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,100
time.
I'm just like, it is so easy to

676
00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:52,300
dismiss, something like that.
If you're just like, yeah,

677
00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:54,800
literally.
The frame is, you know, a

678
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,900
quarter of a second long and
there's no way that this

679
00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:00,700
application can, you know, pick
up on that.

680
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,100
So we're just going to keep
skipping back and forth.

681
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:06,200
Five seconds until Congress has.
All right, we got to move on,

682
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:11,000
let's let's give up.
It's like oh oh oh We're no I'm

683
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,800
just like you guys suck.
All right, I know exactly what

684
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,100
that was like.
That was just the easiest way to

685
00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:19,100
just be like stop talking to us.
We're going to show you some

686
00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:22,800
crap that you know, you can't
possibly pull any sort of you

687
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:27,500
know information out of Hungry.
That's how I feel about that

688
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:35,000
next.
I would have to say that I agree

689
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:39,900
with Jake about that.
I think it was if you really

690
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:46,100
look at it, look at how many
reports were made over a long

691
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:49,200
period of time.
Look at how many videos exist

692
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,400
whether they be civilian videos
or military videos, there's a

693
00:41:53,408 --> 00:41:56,500
lot more that exists.
Why would you pick those two?

694
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,700
You pick one that you could
easily turn around and say,

695
00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:02,800
okay.
Well.

696
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,700
The camera played tricks on you
and here's the night vision of

697
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:10,300
it and it was probably just
drones and you know, not a big

698
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:12,800
deal.
We identified this as nothing

699
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,800
big.
Okay, cool.

700
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,500
And in a way, I think that's
almost like a like a strategic

701
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:25,000
pick that video in particular
with the triangle formation.

702
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:31,100
Because look at how many videos
exist of the tr-3b.

703
00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:32,400
Yeah.
All right.

704
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:39,900
Look at how many Use exist of
triangular craft that are in the

705
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:43,800
air and the easiest way to kind
of put them all to bed.

706
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:46,700
It's just to say, yeah, it's a
drone.

707
00:42:47,300 --> 00:42:53,300
Yeah, formation of drones,
whatever they want to throw out

708
00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:55,200
there.
It's the way the light is going

709
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,300
to the camera.
Yeah, yeah, and that's that's

710
00:42:58,300 --> 00:43:03,100
kind of like a modern day, you
know, Moonlight off the gas of

711
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,400
Venus.
Type of thing doesn't want us,

712
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:11,700
you know, that's a modern-day
Ploy on that and that's why they

713
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:14,600
specifically chose that video.
I feel like it was very

714
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:21,700
strategic because to the lay
person into a person who is just

715
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:27,600
kind of peripherally interested
in, what's going on, you look at

716
00:43:27,607 --> 00:43:30,200
that video and you go.
Oh, I've seen those videos on

717
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,600
YouTube and I've seen those
videos on Facebook and Yeah,

718
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,100
I've seen so many of those
videos and now this man who is

719
00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:41,500
well-versed in what he's
supposed to be talking about his

720
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:44,600
military, he's in front of
Congress, he's telling you,

721
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:47,600
these are drones okay.
Well I guess all those other

722
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,600
videos are bullshit too.
And that's that's a really easy

723
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,800
way to dismiss all that as far
as the other video goes.

724
00:43:57,300 --> 00:44:00,200
You know, I think it's telling
that when they look at the video

725
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,700
and they go, well, we have no
idea how this is, you know what

726
00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:09,100
this is. that's, that's In a
way, what they came out and said

727
00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:13,000
was yeah, we want to try to
figure this out.

728
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,800
This is how we're going to try
to figure it out.

729
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,100
We're going to break it down
based on science, the, you know,

730
00:44:18,100 --> 00:44:21,100
everything that that you
mentioned about what we're going

731
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:26,100
to do to try and really
investigate this again all boils

732
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:29,900
down to funding money money.
Yeah, unfortunately.

733
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:37,800
But again, I think it's more
kind of like moving the Posts at

734
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,700
that point you're just saying
this is the best that we have

735
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:44,700
right now.
There there could have been a

736
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:47,100
thousand other videos that they
could have brought to congress

737
00:44:47,100 --> 00:44:50,300
with them.
That were more convincing but a

738
00:44:50,308 --> 00:44:52,300
bunch of other videos that they
could have said.

739
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,000
We can't explain this shit but I
could have really better videos.

740
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:58,800
Exactly.
Exactly half the internet could

741
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,200
write.
So You know, and there's plenty

742
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,500
of people that take video on the
regular they're in hot spots

743
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,900
across the country.
There's video across the world.

744
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:12,200
So you're telling me that they
couldn't pull from those those

745
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,600
Treasure troves of videos.
And you could say well you know

746
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,300
a lot of those are fake and a
lot of those are CGI and blah,

747
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:24,800
blah, blah.
Listen, the government of all

748
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:29,800
entities in this world have the
means by which to tell whether a

749
00:45:29,808 --> 00:45:35,500
video is fake or So easily, they
could have sifted through 100

750
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:38,400
videos.
Let's just say small number 100

751
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:44,500
videos and said, okay, these 97
are all fake.

752
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,100
They're all put into CGI
Photoshop.

753
00:45:47,100 --> 00:45:49,500
Whatever it may be, Adobe
Premiere.

754
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,700
And, but these three videos,
these are real.

755
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,000
Let's take a look at what these
are.

756
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:59,700
Can we explain this?
So I don't know.

757
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:06,400
I think it's, I think it was a
move to pull from the crappiest

758
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,900
selection of videos that they
could find just to present

759
00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:14,500
something to condoms.
Kids are what you got.

760
00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:20,100
It's really easy to take a
couple crappy videos and blame

761
00:46:20,100 --> 00:46:23,500
something that everyone thinks
they know a lot about like

762
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:26,300
cameras.
Right.

763
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,400
So that's what was going through
my head.

764
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:33,500
As you were reading that it's
really easy to take a couple

765
00:46:33,500 --> 00:46:41,000
crappy videos and just blame the
camera because What else could

766
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,500
it possibly be other than the
camera?

767
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:49,200
Hello.
So, let's, let's talk about this

768
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,000
absolute shit explanation that
they gave us as to why this

769
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,400
light that's most likely
spherical or circular is looking

770
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:04,100
triangular through reflex lens
and night vision goggles.

771
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,300
Going to go ahead and say that I
put on night vision goggles

772
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:10,400
before to mess around with them.
Because When the air crewmen,

773
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,700
let me do that.
And I've never seen a circle or

774
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:17,900
something like that.
End up a different shape are

775
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:20,700
seeing it.
Not once every five Henton, I've

776
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:24,500
hunted, my friends in the woods
many times before and never

777
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:30,100
never saw anything like that.
So, right, he had his friends.

778
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:34,600
That's what I took away, their
past tense.

779
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:44,900
We could Jake's like no.
I mean that's you know, neither

780
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:49,900
here nor there, we're not
talking about that, but a crimes

781
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,800
are no crimes, whatever.
But no, I sent her thinking

782
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,700
about it.
And I was like I wonder who

783
00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:00,900
because I didn't really, like,
scan the room or look up a list

784
00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:05,100
of who, exactly, you know, was
inside the Congressional chamber

785
00:48:05,100 --> 00:48:09,300
with them everyday.
And How many of those people

786
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:13,400
have ever spent time in the
military and had the ability to

787
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,800
put on night vision goggles,
right?

788
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:21,900
And it just like go ahead, there
was there was a few, there was a

789
00:48:21,908 --> 00:48:24,500
few in there.
Especially people who ask

790
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:28,900
questions, you know congressman,
who asked questions that should

791
00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:32,700
have immediately said, you're
full of shit, okay?

792
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,500
That that we go ahead.
You can take a minute.

793
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:42,300
No, I mean yeah, it was just
like Because that's such a weird

794
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:47,800
explanation.
It's like why would it come out

795
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:54,000
triangular?
So I'm gonna try to see if we

796
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,900
can find a picture of that.
I'm sure we can get Jeff to put

797
00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:00,400
the picture up on the screen for
those that are watching this on

798
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:07,700
the Paranormal Network.
You're looking at a pulsating.

799
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:11,800
Or a flickering, triangular
light.

800
00:49:11,900 --> 00:49:17,100
Okay, yeah, are a couple of them
and let me tell you, there's no

801
00:49:17,100 --> 00:49:20,300
fucking triangular lights on any
aircraft that I know of.

802
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:24,300
So we're either looking at such
aircraft such as the tr-3b which

803
00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:28,000
are, you know, secret military
aircraft or we're looking at

804
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,900
something completely different.
Right.

805
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,300
What?
It could possibly be a secret

806
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:37,700
military aircraft from another
country whatever but as far as I

807
00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:40,600
know, there's no Triangular
lights, Jake.

808
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,400
Have you ever seen a fucking
triangular light on any Naval

809
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,600
know that I'm more leaning
towards that?

810
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,600
It wasn't a light that it was
the belly of an aircraft.

811
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,100
That was flashing and it was
reflecting that light like

812
00:49:56,100 --> 00:49:57,700
because that thing was high up,
right?

813
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:02,600
So let's look at the zoomed-in.
If you can remember the first

814
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,800
video right now about that the
second one, where they finally

815
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,300
came out and said this is a
drone, there was two lights that

816
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,100
you can see.
And then there was a possible

817
00:50:11,100 --> 00:50:13,300
third one that looked like it
was behind clouds.

818
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:16,500
And they honestly looked like
they were in the shape of a

819
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:20,100
bigger triangle, which would be
whatever one thinks of, as the

820
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:24,300
tr-3b or these triangular UFOs
or you appease?

821
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,300
Okay.
Yeah, I kind of, I didn't watch

822
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,500
admittedly.
I didn't watch the entirety of

823
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:33,600
that thing, like I was doing
something else.

824
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,400
I heard them talking about, then
I glanced at it.

825
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,700
And it was at that point,
they're zooming in on one of

826
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:39,300
them, and it was like getting
bigger and bigger.

827
00:50:39,300 --> 00:50:41,200
Yeah.
And I'll just like that.

828
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,800
Looks like to me, like, it was
an aircraft and then whatever

829
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,200
light was on, it was lighting up
the bottom of it, right?

830
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:51,200
So then if it was, or in a
pattern like that, I mean, it's

831
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,400
so So the way I saw it was that
these were like wingtip lights

832
00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:58,800
you know the the red and green
wingtip lights that are on

833
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,300
Pleasure crafts and stuff.
Yeah exactly not really well the

834
00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:06,500
so the Collision lights are you
know, the smack lights or the

835
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:11,200
anti-collision lights the also
shoot great white ones.

836
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:13,500
They could have been a collision
lights then but it would have

837
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:16,400
been bread instead of white.
So this is an area, that's the

838
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,900
thing, right?
Is that, that's what they're

839
00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:20,400
putting it off, as that's what
they're trying to tell you.

840
00:51:20,500 --> 00:51:22,100
They're trying to tell you that.
This is an antique.

841
00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:28,000
Listen light on a drone and
you're seeing it as a triangular

842
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:33,200
light because it's coming in
through a single reflex lens,

843
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,400
through night vision goggles.
I mean, I don't know what the

844
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:44,100
fuck a single reflex lens has no
idea, but I highly doubt that

845
00:51:44,100 --> 00:51:48,800
it's going to take a round light
and make it look triangular,

846
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,100
come on not to mention when it's
Zoo.

847
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,100
Zooms in those are some pretty
sharp Corners really sharp

848
00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:57,900
Corners.
Extremely sharp Corners, get

849
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:00,600
very sharp points on that.
Triangle.

850
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:06,800
If it was distorting around a
circle, it would have very fuzzy

851
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:08,100
Corners to it.
I feel.

852
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,700
So I I have to agree with Mike,
right?

853
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:17,000
This is they strategically chose
this particular one.

854
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:21,800
Because what is the most popular
UFO being seen today?

855
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,000
It's The saucer shaped it's the
triangle tr-3b.

856
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,800
I totally agree dismissal.
Angles get people to stop asking

857
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,400
questions about it.
Yeah, it's basically okay now

858
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,200
shut the fuck up.
Hey hey stop.

859
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,500
Stop reporting the shit stop you
know, talking about it and

860
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:40,200
honestly now I just want to talk
about it more.

861
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:42,900
I really do but maybe that's
what they're trying to do.

862
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:45,700
Maybe it's reverse psychology
and they're trying to get you to

863
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:49,900
talk about it more.
I don't I don't really know but

864
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:53,300
the fact of the matter is that
the Combination that they gave

865
00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:58,600
you or us about that, try, how
the lights became triangular.

866
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:03,600
I'm kind of upset with the
congressman that somebody didn't

867
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,500
stand up and be like We're done
here.

868
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,100
You're already lying is
bullshit.

869
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:11,200
We're done.
Right?

870
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:14,800
Yeah, funds denied puns.
Did I?

871
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,900
So I come back later with the
truth.

872
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:20,100
I just want to pose a question
that maybe not a lot of people

873
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:29,100
seem to think about or voice.
Is it possible that Congress

874
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:35,800
Works in line with the panel as
you would call them?

875
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,300
Oh fuck.
Yeah, it's so that would go and

876
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:44,300
answer why?
They're not being called out,

877
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:47,900
so, private session ball.
The don't really in a private

878
00:53:47,900 --> 00:53:50,200
session.
They could say, look this is

879
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:54,100
what it is.
You know, and but it but

880
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:59,200
publicly it's to appease the
public it's a is to appease the

881
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:02,900
cameras.
Well let's let's ask these

882
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:06,500
surface questions and see you
know if that if that makes

883
00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:11,900
people happy and it's kind of a
kind of an ongoing thing

884
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:17,900
whenever they talk about aerial
phenomenon so far is that they

885
00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:21,300
don't really probe what these
questions yeah though you know

886
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:24,400
Why are you even asking who the
director is?

887
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,200
Like that's something that could
be figured out tomorrow, right?

888
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:28,900
Like I know that you're worried
about it.

889
00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:31,200
Oh yeah.
You know, administratively but

890
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,500
realistically like why aren't
you asking questions?

891
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,200
Like you know, you guys have had
a year.

892
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,700
You guys have that mean.
You guys have had 50 years to go

893
00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:43,900
through this 60 years at this
point 70 years?

894
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,500
Why aren't we probing into this?
We knew that it was a thing

895
00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,900
back.
Then we've known it was a For

896
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:55,100
the entire span of this
phenomenon going on.

897
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:59,200
Why haven't you guys looked into
this and nobody?

898
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:03,900
Nobody asks those questions
probably because they don't want

899
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:07,900
us to know and they don't want
that full disclosure.

900
00:55:08,700 --> 00:55:10,800
They act like they're in the
interest of the public but

901
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,900
that's that's to get the this to
get the votes and that's to get

902
00:55:13,900 --> 00:55:18,200
to the, you know, the support
from the public and and keep

903
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,700
everybody in line.
While don't ask any questions,

904
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:22,600
we're going to take care.
Air of it will ask all the

905
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,700
questions will make sure that
they answer to us.

906
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,500
What was the quote bringing
bringing you guys out of the

907
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,000
Shadows.
You're not bringing anybody out

908
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:31,600
of the Shadows.
If you were bringing people out

909
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:33,400
of the Shadows, you would ask
for documents.

910
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,700
You would ask for you to ask a
lot more than two fucking people

911
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:40,300
to show up.
You know you, yeah, asking for

912
00:55:40,300 --> 00:55:42,900
the experts, not the, not the
spokesman.

913
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:49,600
So all right, I agree.
Last thing I that I got to say

914
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:54,700
about these opening statements
especially from the panel is all

915
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:56,500
I'm getting from this whole
thing.

916
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:02,600
Is that there?
Creating a government form of

917
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,400
move on.
That's it.

918
00:56:04,700 --> 00:56:08,300
You know, for sure if anybody
that's into the stuff that we

919
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:12,800
talk about here on the show,
wants a Barney style explanation

920
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:17,600
of what the fuck.
Aim sock actually is its

921
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,500
government, move on.
Okay, there.

922
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:25,300
There, standardizing the way
that military members and other

923
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:29,600
government identify entities are
reporting.

924
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:35,700
These UAP events.
Okay, they're giving you a piece

925
00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:42,600
of paper that says, you know,
where what when why and how did

926
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:47,000
you see this?
What altitude what speed bubble

927
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,800
bubble lot in their
standardizing it so that they

928
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,400
can they can group it all
together and say, okay, we've

929
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:59,100
had so many at 20,000 feet and
so many while we were going 70

930
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:04,000
knots, And whatever, right?
So they can come up with like

931
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,200
things and that's something that
mufon re does.

932
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,800
The difference between aim, SOG
mufon is that move on?

933
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:18,100
We'll take anybody's Port, it
will take you know if let's just

934
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:22,700
say I wanted to go outside and
fake seeing a UFO I can call

935
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:28,900
move on and be like this is my
report whereas in AIM sog Is our

936
00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:32,600
only taking official report and
that's it was basically brought

937
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:39,300
up a later on in in the the the
hearing I can't remember exactly

938
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:45,500
who asked it but basically was
made that if you're not from a

939
00:57:45,508 --> 00:57:51,200
government entity or like the
FAA and very, very select

940
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:57,500
contracted civilian.
Entities that we're not taking a

941
00:57:57,508 --> 00:58:02,700
report simply that they don't
have a way for civilians a

942
00:58:02,700 --> 00:58:08,500
report right now.
So in a nutshell, it is a

943
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:12,100
government for it is the
government former move on.

944
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,800
Anything else until before I
move on.

945
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,300
Nope.
All right.

946
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:26,600
So basically what's going on
here?

947
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:36,100
Is I I created a I don't know, a
document of everything that

948
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:39,400
every single question, all 43
questions that were asked

949
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,300
yesterday, we're not going to go
through all those, okay?

950
00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:44,500
We're going to cut straight to
the juice.

951
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:50,800
I list every Congressman.
What their name is, what state,

952
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,000
what district?
They're from the question that

953
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,700
they asked the answer that was
given to them.

954
00:58:55,700 --> 00:59:00,400
By the panel, I will find a way
to post this as a blog or

955
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,100
something.
It's probably going to be a I

956
00:59:02,100 --> 00:59:09,300
got our website where you can go
and read it yourself and really

957
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:11,900
dive into the juice on black and
white.

958
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,300
Unfortunately, I don't know how
to blog, so I got to figure out

959
00:59:14,308 --> 00:59:16,700
how to do that first, and then
it will be there.

960
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:22,600
Hopefully, by the time this
episode out, but before we get

961
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,200
into the really juicy stuff, I
want to talk about Congressman,

962
00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:32,200
Mike, Gallagher of Wisconsin's
8th District this guy out, Of

963
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,500
every everybody that asks
questions of every Congressman.

964
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:40,900
This this guy right here, I
believe really tried to stick it

965
00:59:40,900 --> 00:59:43,100
to the panel and ask some tough
questions.

966
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:46,000
So let's go through his
questions and the answers that

967
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:52,500
the panel gate him question. 19
from Congressman Mike Gallagher

968
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:56,500
begins his time by stating that
the u.s. government had programs

969
00:59:56,900 --> 01:00:00,000
are had a program to study this
phenomenon in the 1960s called

970
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,000
Project Blue Book and more.
The advanced Aerospace threat

971
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:09,800
identification program for a tip
Then followed up by asking if

972
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,700
the panel knows of any other
programs between Project Blue

973
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:16,100
Book and a tip that the
government stood up to deal with

974
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:21,800
these you IPS and does anything
predate Project Blue Book, the

975
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,200
answer, the question 19 came
from The Honorable Ronald

976
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,300
Moultrie, where he responds by
saying no the both levels of the

977
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:35,000
question. 120 Gallagher then
follows up by asking if they are

978
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:40,000
aware of any DOD or contractor
programs focused on you a peas

979
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,500
from a technological and
Engineering perspective answer

980
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:47,200
to question. 20 comes from
Moultrie and Bray both

981
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:50,000
answering, that know, they are
unaware of any programs referred

982
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,700
to by mr.
Gallagher's, question question,

983
01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:56,600
21 Gallagher then goes on to ask
if the panel are aware of the

984
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,200
incident that took place at
Malmstrom Air Force Base in

985
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:04,500
Montana in 1960, Even wear a red
glowing.

986
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:10,200
Orb was seen over the base as 10
nuclear icbms and for those that

987
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,700
don't know what ICBM is.
It is an intercontinental,

988
01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:20,300
ballistic missiles became
inoperable at the same time now

989
01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:22,300
1967.
I know that's quite a while is

990
01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:25,200
way.
So the answer to question, 21

991
01:01:25,700 --> 01:01:28,300
comes from mr.
Bray as he responds by saying

992
01:01:28,300 --> 01:01:33,200
that he has not seen any
official data on That event and

993
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:37,000
that event takes place before
his time and that, the, you a

994
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,100
PT, F did not investigate that
event.

995
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:43,600
Question. 22 comes from
Congress.

996
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,400
Gallagher, of course, then he
asks, if you're not

997
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:54,200
investigating, then who is
Answer 22, moultry respond by

998
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,400
saying that if it were
officially brought to our

999
01:01:56,408 --> 01:02:00,400
attention, we would have
investigated Gallagher.

1000
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,900
Then responds to that.
Answer by saying quote, this

1001
01:02:04,900 --> 01:02:09,100
seems pretty official which
Moultrie responds by telling him

1002
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:13,200
that if in an authoritative
figure had brought it to their

1003
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,700
attention, then they would have
looked at it but just

1004
01:02:15,700 --> 01:02:19,500
investigating something from so
long ago that now Only be

1005
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:22,300
investigated by media reports
would have been a waste of

1006
01:02:22,300 --> 01:02:26,200
resources.
So question 23 by Gallagher's

1007
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,000
actually, his final question
revolves around the Admiral

1008
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:35,300
Wilson, memo or edw notes.
And simply asks, if they are

1009
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:40,800
aware of such and both men of
the panel, both answer with no.

1010
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:45,100
Now, the side note, here, for
anyone wondering what this is.

1011
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,300
The Admiral Wilson, memo AKA The
Wilson Davis.

1012
01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:53,400
It's aka the edw notes are
considered one of or the most

1013
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,200
significant leak of UFO
documents that date Admiral

1014
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,400
Thomas Wilson, was the 13th
director of the defense

1015
01:03:00,700 --> 01:03:06,000
intelligence agency or the DIA
during the time from 1999, the

1016
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,700
2002.
And before this position, he

1017
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:11,300
served as the Director of
intelligence for The Joint

1018
01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:16,100
Chiefs of Staff, these notes are
referring to 13 Pages written by

1019
01:03:16,300 --> 01:03:19,500
dr.
Eric Davis, and October To

1020
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,400
anthro 1 meeting, he had with
Admiral Wilson on these notes,

1021
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,500
dr.
Davis, wrote down info from

1022
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:31,300
their discussion on UFOs.
Majestic 12 AKA, mj-12 Roswell

1023
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,800
and crashed UFOs and alien
bodies, these notes.

1024
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,000
Also include a two-page letter
written by Commander Willard

1025
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,800
Miller, that outlines Area 51
UFOs and crash retrieval.

1026
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:45,000
This is all you need to know as
a very brief description on the

1027
01:03:45,008 --> 01:03:48,600
subject.
More on the Admiral Wilson memo.

1028
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,100
In a future episode of the
infinite rabbit hole.

1029
01:03:55,300 --> 01:03:58,200
Hey buddy, bear with us while we
take this quick break.

1030
01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:08,400
So did any of you guys get to
listen to Congressman Mike

1031
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,300
Gallagher dive into these two
two guys.

1032
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:16,400
Yes and How awesome was this
dude?

1033
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,600
I was shocked.
I was shocked at that was

1034
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,300
brought up.
I thought that for the most part

1035
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:27,000
it was going to be just very
basic, kind of scratching the

1036
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,900
surface questions.
I did not expect that account to

1037
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:37,400
be brought up and Are you going
to go further into the Q&A?

1038
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,100
Or is this like kind of wrapping
it up?

1039
01:04:39,700 --> 01:04:42,400
No, that's that's basically it.
So, I'm going to.

1040
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,800
Okay, immediately after this,
we're going to go into the

1041
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:47,300
questions that had to go on to
close.

1042
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:51,200
Okay section.
So we don't have ten hours to

1043
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:51,700
two dice.
Yeah.

1044
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:55,600
Everything that's fair, but one
of the questions that were posed

1045
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,700
to mr.
Bray was if they had ever

1046
01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:03,500
attempted to make contact with
one of these you APS or open

1047
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:08,900
fire on one, right?
And what really pushes me to the

1048
01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:13,900
idea that these are, in fact,
you know, military aircraft is

1049
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:17,300
the fact that he said, no.
And I mean, dude, there's

1050
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,900
there's got to be places
military bases around here where

1051
01:05:21,900 --> 01:05:25,600
if you fly your civilian
aircraft while they're paying in

1052
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,800
you to turn around and you get
too close, they will blow your

1053
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:33,200
butthole right out of the sky,
you know, Pine bits and pieces

1054
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,300
of you.
Scattered for Miles, right?

1055
01:05:35,500 --> 01:05:39,700
And it just like there's no way
that these things are flying in

1056
01:05:39,700 --> 01:05:43,200
restricted, airspace, they're
going up to where they, we store

1057
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,000
our nukes and turning them all
off and stuff without having a

1058
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,800
missile shoved, right up there
behind and blown to Smithereens,

1059
01:05:50,100 --> 01:05:52,700
right and less.
Somebody knows.

1060
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:55,700
Unless somebody is like, nope,
don't mess with them because

1061
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:59,800
either it's, they understand
that the Weaponry that they have

1062
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,300
on them is, you know, far
Advanced more advanced than us.

1063
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,200
And these things do actually
come from someplace other than

1064
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,400
Earth or to their our own
technology and it's just sing

1065
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,900
and testing the parameters to
see what exactly can they do,

1066
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,900
can this aircraft in 1967 fly
over this base and using a

1067
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:25,900
signal turn off these nukes?
You know the idea that oh well

1068
01:06:25,900 --> 01:06:28,500
we didn't hear about that.
Oh it was an authoritative thing

1069
01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:34,600
that's BS.
So Yeah I'm just like on board

1070
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:38,700
with like this is just a another
ploy to like mystery.

1071
01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:42,300
Mike said get more money right
for the program because that's a

1072
01:06:42,308 --> 01:06:48,600
huge thing but then also for
just kind of a okay here we are

1073
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,300
a year later.
Please stop asking us about this

1074
01:06:51,300 --> 01:06:54,700
stuff, it's nothing.
Don't worry about it, right?

1075
01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:57,800
And when we and later on they're
probably going to break out with

1076
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,500
congress with this thing and be
like this is our technology.

1077
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:03,900
Like this, is that that event
that happened.

1078
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,500
This was saying what it could do
right?

1079
01:07:06,500 --> 01:07:10,000
Or something along those lines.
That's how I feel.

1080
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:16,600
Anyway, um, I really liked here.
Moultrie responds by telling him

1081
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,700
that if an authoritative figure
had brought it to their

1082
01:07:19,700 --> 01:07:22,000
attention, they would have
looked at it.

1083
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:29,200
Just further emphasizing that
you need to have importance in

1084
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:34,000
order for something to be known
or for your voice for for the

1085
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:38,200
information to be spread.
Some guy with a suit and tie.

1086
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:39,900
Yeah.
And a badge.

1087
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:42,100
Yeah, of some kind.
Yeah.

1088
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:46,400
Or Star a lapel pin.
There was someone walking around

1089
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,300
saying, hey, you guys should
look into this, but they were,

1090
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,500
they were below them.
They were the nobody, so, they

1091
01:07:52,500 --> 01:07:55,500
got ignored.
That's, that's a, that's a big

1092
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:58,800
thing in the military for, I
believe it, I believe it.

1093
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:01,600
If for sure, if you're a lower
ranking and someone's like, hey

1094
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:07,700
you should look into this and
doing no, I believe it.

1095
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:13,800
My another level of Candy Crush
to beat, what do you got mine?

1096
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,500
So, So my question is, let's say
that you guys are on base.

1097
01:08:17,500 --> 01:08:20,899
I'm not sure what kind of
vehicles you have, I'll just

1098
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,800
throw out a general one, like,
on the right, okay, so you guys

1099
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:32,000
are on base and a well working
Humvee, all of a sudden stops

1100
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,899
working, you look under the
hood, and the engine is gone.

1101
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,100
What do you think?
What do you think happens from

1102
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:41,899
that point on?
You get in trouble for SE misuse

1103
01:08:41,899 --> 01:08:48,800
and abuse.
Absolutely so blamed, let's,

1104
01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:52,200
let's break this down a little
bit because this could get fun,

1105
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:56,899
right?
So, it was working initially and

1106
01:08:56,899 --> 01:08:59,100
then it just stopped working or
it doesn't work at all.

1107
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:03,500
The engine is missing.
You guys go to start the Humvee

1108
01:09:03,500 --> 01:09:04,899
and you're like, what the hell
is going on?

1109
01:09:04,899 --> 01:09:07,500
Let's pop the hood.
You open up the hood, the entire

1110
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:12,200
fucking engine is gone.
So Single piece of government

1111
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:17,700
equipment, has a log of who used
it and when and whatever, right.

1112
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:22,700
So the person who used it last
is going to get em the fuck up.

1113
01:09:23,500 --> 01:09:25,000
Yeah.
Yes.

1114
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,000
Definitely.
Before before we use any

1115
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,600
equipment like that, we have to
do an inspection on it.

1116
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,100
So even even I'm sure, you know,
people that use Humvees.

1117
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:36,000
They like the Marines, they
would have to check the oil,

1118
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,600
check the tire pressure.
Make sure it has fuel in it if

1119
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:39,899
there's any damage to it.
If it's me.

1120
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,399
Seeing a door.
Everything has to be animated or

1121
01:09:42,399 --> 01:09:44,700
every single time someone uses
one of these, one of these

1122
01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:48,100
things or tow tractor or a
mobile power card.

1123
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:51,500
Everything has to be annotated
on it so that if, you know, you

1124
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:54,500
go up there and be like, oh
shoot this bolts, missing the

1125
01:09:54,500 --> 01:09:56,900
guy before you get some trouble.
And not you.

1126
01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:00,800
So whoever that was, let me let
me redirect the question.

1127
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,100
Okay.
The engine is missing, is there

1128
01:10:04,100 --> 01:10:06,600
going to be an investigation as
to where that engine when?

1129
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:07,600
Yes.
Yes.

1130
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,400
And your percent.
So they're going to Call over

1131
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,600
the base.
Let's say they don't find the

1132
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:15,600
engine.
Okay, it's not on base.

1133
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:19,600
Did they have cameras there?
Yeah, yeah.

1134
01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:21,800
Okay, let's say they look at the
cameras.

1135
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,800
They don't see anybody go by the
Humvee.

1136
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:26,600
They saw the person that used
it.

1137
01:10:26,700 --> 01:10:30,100
He parked it.
It was working the next time

1138
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:32,900
that anybody goes by it.
No engine inside of it.

1139
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:35,600
Was there a Red?
Orb?

1140
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:42,200
Yes, the point that I, it does
join those points together.

1141
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:47,500
The point that I'm trying to
make is something as simple as a

1142
01:10:47,500 --> 01:10:50,600
part of a Humvee.
If it got all fucked up or if it

1143
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,800
was missing, they're going to
investigate that.

1144
01:10:52,900 --> 01:10:53,500
Yeah.
Okay.

1145
01:10:53,500 --> 01:10:56,000
It's going to become kind of a
big thing, especially if they

1146
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,100
can't explain where that engine
went.

1147
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:01,900
Yeah.
So now you're a base where there

1148
01:11:01,900 --> 01:11:07,000
are nuclear weapons.
Okay, or icbms like you said,

1149
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:12,500
and now those things that were
supposed to work across the

1150
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:15,100
board, don't work anymore.
Okay?

1151
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,700
You look at the camera feed, see
these things floating all of a

1152
01:11:18,708 --> 01:11:22,300
sudden, you see a little little
laser, whatever it may be,

1153
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,600
everything shuts down at that
point.

1154
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:29,700
Now, does that become like the
biggest fucking story within the

1155
01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:32,800
military base?
Does that become does that span

1156
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:37,800
across decades?
So one.

1157
01:11:40,900 --> 01:11:47,500
All right, I don't get in
trouble but I'll put it this

1158
01:11:47,500 --> 01:11:54,000
way, if something like that
happened and what we call

1159
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,400
scuttlebutt, right?
It's just gossip.

1160
01:11:56,700 --> 01:12:01,600
If scuttlebutt happens and it
starts making its way out into

1161
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:07,600
the rest of, you know, a general
area, the rest of the Navy will

1162
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,300
know about it.
By the end of the day.

1163
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,600
Oh yeah.
Just for an example Jake and I

1164
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,900
am not going to say what it was,
but Jake, and I witnessed

1165
01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:22,900
something horrific and the rest
of the Navy knew about it by the

1166
01:12:22,900 --> 01:12:24,200
end of the day.
Yep.

1167
01:12:25,900 --> 01:12:29,400
Yeah good.
So talking about these red orbs

1168
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:36,100
at a missile site, they create
whatever happens missile, stop.

1169
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:38,400
Stop becoming operational, they
stop working.

1170
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:44,500
There's no investigation.
They don't try to look into what

1171
01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:47,100
those orbs were, what was going
on?

1172
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,900
How did they make it onto the
base without being without

1173
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,100
coming across radar or coming
across any kind of, you know,

1174
01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:59,900
tripwire for better lack of a
better term.

1175
01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:03,800
There's no way they don't know
how it happened.

1176
01:13:04,300 --> 01:13:08,300
Now, that's known across the
military and these guys come out

1177
01:13:08,300 --> 01:13:11,900
and they say, While no official
had told us to look into this.

1178
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:15,800
So one of two things is
happening there.

1179
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:20,900
Either, you have someone who
knows what happened, they know

1180
01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:23,800
exactly what they were.
They know exactly how that went

1181
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,400
down and there is no need for
the investigation.

1182
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:33,600
Or you did the investigation.
You don't know what it is, or

1183
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,800
you do know what it is, but
you're not going to tell

1184
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:41,300
everybody about it.
You don't need anybody to tell

1185
01:13:41,300 --> 01:13:44,400
you especially when you're the
head of these departments.

1186
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,800
You don't need anybody to come
and tell you hey you should look

1187
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,400
into this thing that happened in
the 60s, that's completely,

1188
01:13:51,300 --> 01:13:54,400
just, we can't explain it.
It's unexplainable.

1189
01:13:56,300 --> 01:13:59,100
That is your job.
That is your department to look

1190
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:03,000
into these things.
And that would be one of the

1191
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,300
biggest things to happen,
especially at a military base,

1192
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:10,800
especially with missiles.
Especially, you know, that is

1193
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,700
it, that is a huge thing.
That's a huge thing.

1194
01:14:14,000 --> 01:14:18,100
That is probably one of the
biggest things, the, the whole,

1195
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,100
you know, base out in Montana
1967, doesn't matter what time

1196
01:14:21,100 --> 01:14:24,500
it was.
That's one of the biggest events

1197
01:14:24,700 --> 01:14:29,200
in ufologists she in history.
You know, obviously there's

1198
01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:33,700
Roswell and rendlesham and
whatever, but this is, you know,

1199
01:14:33,700 --> 01:14:40,400
a huge huge, right?
So what this tells me is that

1200
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:46,900
this whole thing is incompetent,
this is just reeks incompetence

1201
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:55,100
for multiple reasons, right?
Either you are incompetent and

1202
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:59,900
don't know this the stuff that
you need to know in order to run

1203
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:06,600
this program or Somebody doesn't
trust you enough to hand you the

1204
01:15:06,608 --> 01:15:09,700
file, right?
Because there's there's research

1205
01:15:09,700 --> 01:15:11,500
on this.
There's there's a file on this

1206
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,900
event, I can guarantee all
right.

1207
01:15:13,900 --> 01:15:18,600
Sure whether it was the glowing
red orb or we shut down our own

1208
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:23,800
missiles or whatever.
It was the the accepted answer

1209
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:26,400
to the government is out there.
You can get your hands on this

1210
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,600
mean cheese, like one of the
computers and one of our

1211
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,100
aircraft like stops working and
we have Maps, we have a whole

1212
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:34,800
paper trail.
Entire thing.

1213
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,000
Like what was the?
What was the cause of it.

1214
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:39,600
What's where you find out?
Troubleshooting like what was

1215
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,400
like the in process steps, like
all kinds of had you fix the

1216
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:44,200
problem.
You're going to tell me that all

1217
01:15:44,200 --> 01:15:46,200
these Nooks shutting off and
they're not going to be like

1218
01:15:46,500 --> 01:15:48,800
like weird.
Let's go.

1219
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,600
Let's go home for the day.
Like, you know, even very clear

1220
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:57,600
if it was something that was
terrestrial if it was something

1221
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,000
that was just a mechanical
breakdown.

1222
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,100
They would just say, this is
what it was.

1223
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,200
Yeah.
They would say, oh, it was a

1224
01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:07,900
faulty chip.
Oh, you know, something,

1225
01:16:07,900 --> 01:16:12,600
something, something rats, got
a, the wires and exactly any

1226
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,800
amount of reasoning but instead,
they diverted, that attention

1227
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,800
and said, well, we just didn't
look into that.

1228
01:16:18,300 --> 01:16:23,300
Well, it's a pretty simple thing
to look into especially, again,

1229
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:28,800
when it's your department.
Yeah, I got a, I got a funny for

1230
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,400
electricians out there.
If anybody's electrician, you'll

1231
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:37,400
get this pretty funny.
All these nuclear warheads were,

1232
01:16:38,500 --> 01:16:46,300
we're in series with each other.
So basically there's two ways to

1233
01:16:46,300 --> 01:16:49,000
Circuit something, right?
There's series and parallel.

1234
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:55,000
And basically Christmas tree
lights are in series, which

1235
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,100
means that if you remove a
light, all of them don't work,

1236
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,100
right?
So, basically, the joke is

1237
01:17:01,100 --> 01:17:05,400
saying that if you don't like
them, The rat ate the wire.

1238
01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:08,500
Well, if he ate the wire, if
they were in, follow them.

1239
01:17:08,500 --> 01:17:12,300
It would, it would turn off all
the Christmas tree string.

1240
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:17,300
Yeah, in parallel one would go
off and the rest of them would

1241
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:20,700
continue to work.
So it's it's kind of a nerdy

1242
01:17:20,700 --> 01:17:22,000
joke.
I thought it was free those damn

1243
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,300
Sparky's.
Yeah, it's construction.

1244
01:17:26,300 --> 01:17:30,700
Talk for an electrician basic
level one.

1245
01:17:30,700 --> 01:17:34,900
Plumbing to some, somebody out,
there is going to You appreciate

1246
01:17:34,900 --> 01:17:39,200
that.
I can guarantee it but all I've

1247
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:44,500
got to say is that I think, mr.
Gallagher of Wisconsin, did a

1248
01:17:44,508 --> 01:17:51,900
good job at really digging into
these guys and proving that this

1249
01:17:51,900 --> 01:17:55,400
horseshit and I think that's
what was meant to be done.

1250
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,400
No, I'm not.
I've never heard of this guy

1251
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,900
before in my life and I'm not
paid to say this, or am I?

1252
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:08,200
My no, you sure.
Mmm, actually, my bank account

1253
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:14,400
is pretty sure, but yeah, mr.
Gallagher, I haven't gotten the

1254
01:18:14,900 --> 01:18:17,000
check yet so I'm not saying
anything.

1255
01:18:17,500 --> 01:18:22,600
Anyways, I am, I am surprised
and partially proud that he did

1256
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:27,200
bring up that incident.
So, yeah, dude, when I heard

1257
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:32,000
that, I was like, okay, yeah.
And and then he brought the

1258
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:36,000
memos and I was like, Dude is
either did some research or

1259
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,300
this?
Do likes infant rabbit on the

1260
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:39,000
to.
I don't know.

1261
01:18:39,100 --> 01:18:42,900
I was stepping into the shower
and I pulled back real quick and

1262
01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:46,600
I looked at my screen, bring it
through my speaker and stuff and

1263
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:48,900
I was just about to get in the
shower and I heard that I pulled

1264
01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:50,700
out I like they're looking at
it.

1265
01:18:50,700 --> 01:18:53,600
I tapped it back a couple times
like watch it.

1266
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,800
I was just like I can't believe
you just said that I thought

1267
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,200
this was going to be such a
sweep under the rug sort of

1268
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,400
thing.
Like that's crazy.

1269
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:02,200
That's good.
I like that.

1270
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:04,900
I enjoyed it.
We There was, there was some

1271
01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:10,000
slight highlights from other
congressmen, nothing really

1272
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:14,000
that, we really need to dive
into other than the stuff that

1273
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:20,100
needs to be pushed to the later
hearing, does anybody have

1274
01:19:20,100 --> 01:19:21,800
anything else before we get into
that?

1275
01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,600
Not.
All right, golden.

1276
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,500
So I basically made a list of
all the questions that were

1277
01:19:30,500 --> 01:19:34,900
pushed off to the later
hearings, and there's only five,

1278
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:40,700
but they were good ones and I'm
not going to say the answers to

1279
01:19:40,700 --> 01:19:44,200
them, except for one of them
because the, it was a two-level

1280
01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:48,900
question, where one of the
levels were pushed off the later

1281
01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:53,100
and one was answered but the
answers to All of these are

1282
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,900
we'll talk about it later.
Number one during chairman

1283
01:19:57,900 --> 01:19:59,500
shifts.
Direct questions.

1284
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:03,300
He asks, if the object in the
first video is being recorded by

1285
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:08,300
multiple instruments that was
pushed to later to during

1286
01:20:08,300 --> 01:20:11,700
Congressman dr.
Brad wenstrup squish ins.

1287
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,200
He asks about whether or not
allies and adversaries are

1288
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,900
reporting you a piece as well.
Which Bray partially response to

1289
01:20:19,900 --> 01:20:25,100
with context of those 12 will be
saved for the closed session.

1290
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:29,800
So basically, what he was
saying, was yes our adversaries

1291
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:34,100
and allies are reporting you APS
but what they're reporting will

1292
01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:37,600
have to talk about later.
Number three during Congressman

1293
01:20:37,700 --> 01:20:42,000
krishnamoorthy these questions.
He asks if there are any

1294
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,800
underwater instruments to
measure the presence of these

1295
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,000
objects under the surface of the
water that was pushed off the

1296
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,600
later.
Again Congressman

1297
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,200
krishnamoorthy, his last
question, asked at the presence

1298
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,400
of these, you accuse have
altered the development of our

1299
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:04,000
offense or defense of
capabilities and five the last

1300
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:09,800
one on shifts, closing
questions, he regard.

1301
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,900
The 18 cases from 2021 report
that seemed to move with unusual

1302
01:21:13,900 --> 01:21:15,400
patterns of flight
characteristics.

1303
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:20,200
He asks, if in this report where
they state that some APS were

1304
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:24,800
recorded on emitting HF, energy
were the ones that were emitting

1305
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:26,600
this energy.
The ones that move would

1306
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,000
patterns that were
uncharacteristic of typical

1307
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:34,000
flight though.
Some good questions, they are

1308
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:35,600
pushed away.
Those.

1309
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:40,000
This thing is like these were
the could questions in the one

1310
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,600
that really stuck out to me.
Was the underwater instrument?

1311
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,000
Yeah, that's the one that got
me.

1312
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,500
Yeah.
Because I mean, If you're

1313
01:21:50,500 --> 01:21:53,400
listening to this show, if
you're listening to anything, if

1314
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,200
you're listening to a hush-hush
society, you listening to any

1315
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,900
other podcast that's within our
genre of conversation, right?

1316
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,400
That's the one that really
sticks out because one of the

1317
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:08,100
big questions about these, you
APS is, are they do they go

1318
01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:10,000
underwater?
Do they fly?

1319
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:14,700
And then submerged, there's
actually a acronym for that, and

1320
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:19,000
that is unidentified submerged
object.

1321
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:22,800
U.s. owes you have UFOs and u.s.
owes, right?

1322
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,000
That's where the girls in the
50s.

1323
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:28,400
Came by and saying to the
Troops, it was yes.

1324
01:22:30,300 --> 01:22:32,700
Yeah.
Yeah, it's all brainwashing

1325
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:38,700
anyways.
So what do you guys think?

1326
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:45,900
Let's dive into these literally
we had that magic so killing

1327
01:22:45,900 --> 01:22:48,500
supper so mr.
Mike Magic.

1328
01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:53,800
Mike That's my magic mystery
Mike.

1329
01:22:56,900 --> 01:22:58,900
Yeah.
The the one, the only one that

1330
01:22:58,900 --> 01:23:03,500
really sticks out to me is that
that underwater one that

1331
01:23:03,500 --> 01:23:07,700
krishnamurthi.
He seems to be in the know and

1332
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,500
like Jeremy said, you know, if
you listen to any any conspiracy

1333
01:23:11,500 --> 01:23:18,700
theorists or realist, that's one
of the biggest questions is.

1334
01:23:18,700 --> 01:23:20,500
Are we?
In the wrong direction.

1335
01:23:20,900 --> 01:23:25,600
Are we looking up when we should
be looking down and you know

1336
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:31,300
brings up the whole hollow Earth
theory, it brings up, you know

1337
01:23:31,700 --> 01:23:35,900
Nazi Antarctic bases and what
they were working on with you

1338
01:23:35,900 --> 01:23:41,000
know the Kecksburg incident and
those Nazi bells and it brings

1339
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,500
up a lot of questions.
A lot of questions, more.

1340
01:23:44,500 --> 01:23:50,100
So questions for me and I think,
like I said, that was the

1341
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:52,700
question that stood out to me
and that's the one that I would

1342
01:23:52,700 --> 01:23:55,400
love to have answered.
I would love to see what they

1343
01:23:55,400 --> 01:23:59,800
have if there is under,
underwater, detection detection

1344
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,700
from them and what they're
seeing, you know.

1345
01:24:03,700 --> 01:24:09,200
So, this like Jake had said,
really early in this episode,

1346
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,900
the simple fact that they didn't
answer that heats, that there's

1347
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:17,900
something there.
And that, that alone was Worth

1348
01:24:17,900 --> 01:24:22,100
watching this hour and a half
thing was just because they said

1349
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,400
we're going to talk about it
later.

1350
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:28,500
There's something there and
that's exciting because like

1351
01:24:28,500 --> 01:24:34,600
Mike was saying, That opens up
the door to a whole bunch of

1352
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,100
shit.
Yeah.

1353
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:41,600
So very interesting for me now.
Go ahead, man.

1354
01:24:42,300 --> 01:24:48,800
No, no, for me, the one that
stands out was number two which

1355
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:53,200
was during Congressman dr.
Brad when strips question, he

1356
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:56,200
asks about whether or not allies
and adversaries are reporting

1357
01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:01,200
you a piece as well and then mr.
Bray, partially responds with

1358
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:03,700
context of those reports will
have to be saved to for the

1359
01:25:03,700 --> 01:25:09,700
closed session.
I I would very much like, to

1360
01:25:09,700 --> 01:25:19,200
know, whether or not, this is
just Like a United States thing.

1361
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:23,900
United States Canada, Mexico
like this continent thing or if

1362
01:25:23,900 --> 01:25:27,100
they're able to fly these things
over the ocean.

1363
01:25:27,300 --> 01:25:33,400
And you know there Zipping by
Iraq or Afghanistan, or over

1364
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:36,700
China, or North Korea and doing
until missions.

1365
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:41,200
And I'd have to think that, you
know, I mean, there's a pretty

1366
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:42,800
crazy Advanced cameras out
there.

1367
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,600
I mean, if they did just a
quick, just shoot over North

1368
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,600
Korea.
Just, you know, it took pictures

1369
01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:51,300
of the whole way as they're
going and then zip back, you

1370
01:25:51,300 --> 01:25:54,100
know, they could just get so
much Intel of what's going on

1371
01:25:54,100 --> 01:25:58,100
over there or the fact that, you
know, it seems like they don't

1372
01:25:58,100 --> 01:25:59,500
admit any sound.
Right?

1373
01:25:59,500 --> 01:26:03,900
It's not like a C-130 where they
have to fly, so high above the

1374
01:26:03,900 --> 01:26:07,000
ground because otherwise you'd
hear the bomb up there in the

1375
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,600
sky and stuff because the
engines are so big.

1376
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,300
Like they don't have to worry
about any of that stuff, right?

1377
01:26:12,300 --> 01:26:16,900
So they just because, as far as
I mean, most people are

1378
01:26:16,900 --> 01:26:19,700
concerned, it doesn't appear
that they have any sort of jet

1379
01:26:19,700 --> 01:26:23,400
propulsion going on, right?
So whatever they're using is

1380
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:26,700
very quiet.
Maybe it makes some sound but

1381
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:30,900
it's, you know, very quiet.
I don't believe that we have to

1382
01:26:30,900 --> 01:26:35,100
use lights at all.
I don't know why they keep

1383
01:26:35,100 --> 01:26:38,800
getting seen with lights on
because I know, you know, just

1384
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,700
from being on the helicopters,
they fly lights off every once

1385
01:26:41,700 --> 01:26:47,500
in a while and just use their
nvgs, their night vision goggles

1386
01:26:47,900 --> 01:26:51,400
and their Fleer to use like,
heat signatures and stuff.

1387
01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:56,400
But regardless, I would very
much like to know, you know,

1388
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:03,400
whether or not They're zipping
past our allies, or our, or do

1389
01:27:03,400 --> 01:27:08,800
our allies have their own sort
of tech or is this our allies

1390
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:13,200
Tech or adversaries Tech, right?
Mmm.

1391
01:27:13,500 --> 01:27:21,500
So it's like, I don't know, you
know, it are they not shooting

1392
01:27:21,500 --> 01:27:24,800
one of these things down because
China would nuke us if we did,

1393
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:28,700
Because this is their
technology, you know.

1394
01:27:28,700 --> 01:27:30,800
Is that why that's not
happening?

1395
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,500
I mean, I don't know, you know
trying to keep the peace for

1396
01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:35,400
right now.
I have no idea but that's

1397
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,500
something that I'm way more
interested in.

1398
01:27:37,500 --> 01:27:39,700
Because I mean as far as like
whether or not they go

1399
01:27:39,700 --> 01:27:43,500
underwater, I think we saw a
video that came out in the last

1400
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:48,800
year to where the UAP went into
the water, right?

1401
01:27:48,900 --> 01:27:51,700
It just went up and went right
into it.

1402
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:56,400
So, like so, I mean, Do they
have sensors in there?

1403
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,800
Yeah, you know we got buoys all
over the place that sense.

1404
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:02,700
You know if there's going to be
a tidal wave that's going to

1405
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:06,900
come and hit the coastline.
I imagine they have sensors for

1406
01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:09,300
enemy submarines and all kinds
of stuff where they are.

1407
01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:13,600
I don't know, you know, don't
care to know but there has to be

1408
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:15,900
something out there to me,
that's kind of a given.

1409
01:28:16,300 --> 01:28:21,900
But the idea of, you know, whose
technology is this or our allies

1410
01:28:21,900 --> 01:28:25,000
and our enemies, also saying the
exact same thing, you know?

1411
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:30,200
To maybe point point that this,
as maybe it's not our Tech,

1412
01:28:30,300 --> 01:28:34,100
maybe it's not Earth's Tech, you
know or maybe it is the hollow

1413
01:28:34,100 --> 01:28:36,100
Earth theory or whatever.
You know, I'm open to it.

1414
01:28:36,100 --> 01:28:41,700
I have don't feel that it's
plausible or it's possible but

1415
01:28:41,700 --> 01:28:47,500
it's very unlikely that there's
aliens out there but I don't

1416
01:28:47,500 --> 01:28:50,500
know, I mean, there has to be
some explanation to this, right?

1417
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,500
We've seen at least, you know,
especially in Canada.

1418
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:58,200
They've talked about aerial
phenomenon before so we know

1419
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:05,800
that they that's on their radar.
Yeah but more recently Israel

1420
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:10,300
you know we had we had what was
his name Hema?

1421
01:29:10,300 --> 01:29:13,800
She'd who was the former
director of space programs for

1422
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:19,600
the Israeli Ministry of defense
for Like 27 to 30 years,

1423
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,200
something like that.
And he went on to talk about

1424
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,700
Galactic federations and knowing
that the US and Israel were in

1425
01:29:27,700 --> 01:29:31,100
contact with alien
civilizations.

1426
01:29:31,100 --> 01:29:37,000
And there have been those
outliers in other countries that

1427
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:41,100
have mentioned these things,
whether they should be taken

1428
01:29:41,100 --> 01:29:45,100
with a grain of salt or not
remains to be seen, but I can't

1429
01:29:45,100 --> 01:29:48,800
imagine, you know, we've Seen,
we've seen plenty of videos from

1430
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:51,500
around the world.
It's not just happening in

1431
01:29:51,500 --> 01:29:53,300
California.
It's not just happening in

1432
01:29:53,300 --> 01:29:56,500
Virginia, you know, it's it's
everywhere.

1433
01:29:56,500 --> 01:30:01,300
We've seen lights in shapes
above pyramids in Giza.

1434
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:07,000
So, you know, it's definitely
happening around the world and I

1435
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:11,800
would, I would doubt that the
governments of other countries

1436
01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:13,700
are just kind of in the dark
about it.

1437
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:20,200
I think maybe even some other
governments might take it more

1438
01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:26,300
seriously than we do.
You know, and that's all that

1439
01:30:26,300 --> 01:30:30,300
that gets into maybe culture,
you know, we're more kind of a

1440
01:30:30,308 --> 01:30:33,500
stringent, you know,
science-based Community, but

1441
01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:36,600
there's other there's other
countries out there that are

1442
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,100
more spiritual.
So other countries out there

1443
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:45,100
that are more astronomical.
So you know, to think that were

1444
01:30:45,100 --> 01:30:47,400
the only ones that are
monitoring these things.

1445
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,700
I don't see it, I don't see it.
I think it's pretty.

1446
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:58,100
It's pretty world world.
Mound and any country that maybe

1447
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:02,700
has a military backing that's
big enough or technological

1448
01:31:02,700 --> 01:31:05,300
backing.
That's big enough definitely is

1449
01:31:05,300 --> 01:31:11,000
in the know they just might not
voice it as much as we do.

1450
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:14,600
The big brother is going to go
in there and give them a

1451
01:31:14,608 --> 01:31:19,500
spanking if they do.
Yeah, don't stall the World Bank

1452
01:31:19,500 --> 01:31:28,700
and Make their president.
Let's see.

1453
01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:33,500
So I had one more thing to bring
up here that I thought was

1454
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:39,800
pretty interesting.
Chairman Schiff.

1455
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:45,100
From California was also another
hard hitter.

1456
01:31:45,100 --> 01:31:52,400
He was one of the three chairman
of this hearing who repeatedly

1457
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:57,000
asked question on the means of
the way.

1458
01:31:57,000 --> 01:32:02,500
These things seem to move about
without using or without abiding

1459
01:32:02,500 --> 01:32:07,800
by what we know of, as the laws
of physics and also do of into

1460
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:11,600
radio frequencies, which I
thought was very Interesting.

1461
01:32:13,900 --> 01:32:18,500
I'm not going to go through
everything that I have here.

1462
01:32:18,500 --> 01:32:25,100
The try to find exactly where he
States it, but somewhere in this

1463
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:31,600
hour and a half worth of
congressional hearing, we went

1464
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:39,500
down the rabbit hole of HF
recordings or receiving and

1465
01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:43,900
sending and receiving right?
And I wanted to expand on this

1466
01:32:44,100 --> 01:32:50,200
because Jake you and I Have a
slight insight to this.

1467
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,100
And I think this was kind of
swept under the rug as not

1468
01:32:53,100 --> 01:32:57,900
important information, right?
So I'm trying to think of, by

1469
01:32:57,900 --> 01:33:03,300
the way, of layman who may not
necessarily understand what they

1470
01:33:03,300 --> 01:33:07,400
were trying to ask here and they
mean, like, iff.

1471
01:33:07,700 --> 01:33:10,400
Exactly.
Where I'm exactly where I'm

1472
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:15,700
getting.
So, Basically, the question was.

1473
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:21,200
Did we receive any radio
frequencies from any of these

1474
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:24,500
objects?
And basically, swept under the

1475
01:33:24,500 --> 01:33:33,200
rug, by the panel mr.
Bray and Ronald Moultrie, and

1476
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,200
then it was continue to be
pushed by Schiff and his closing

1477
01:33:36,200 --> 01:33:43,100
statements, and basically got a
little bit of information at the

1478
01:33:43,100 --> 01:33:46,000
very end there.
Thanks to mr.

1479
01:33:46,100 --> 01:33:55,300
Schiff, where it seems that?
is there may have been some form

1480
01:33:55,300 --> 01:34:03,100
of frequencies pushed by these
guys by these objects.

1481
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:13,800
Or received and I can I can hear
the non-military Personnel or

1482
01:34:13,900 --> 01:34:15,800
not.
Aviation Personnel will go that

1483
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,900
one instead kind of being like
okay what's the deal here?

1484
01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:27,000
On aircraft that are.
Shit aircraft in general, right?

1485
01:34:27,300 --> 01:34:32,600
They have a system called iff
stands for identify Friend or

1486
01:34:32,600 --> 01:34:38,400
Foe and basically a signal
flied.

1487
01:34:38,500 --> 01:34:43,500
Think of it as like echolocation
That Dolphins, use right.

1488
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,000
It sends a signal and says, who
are you?

1489
01:34:48,100 --> 01:34:56,100
The other aircrafts iff will
then accept the signal, okay,

1490
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,700
which you can tell whether or
not it's been accepted or not,

1491
01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:05,400
it will interrogate it and say
we are.

1492
01:35:05,500 --> 01:35:09,500
It will respond to the question
saying we are.

1493
01:35:09,500 --> 01:35:11,900
So and so, and this is what
we're doing.

1494
01:35:11,900 --> 01:35:17,300
This is this is our mission,
okay, are we flying people from

1495
01:35:18,500 --> 01:35:25,900
Key West to Detroit today.
Are we huddle hopping because we

1496
01:35:25,900 --> 01:35:28,500
just like flying, and this is
our hobby.

1497
01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:33,600
Are we doing military?
Training exercises, whatever?

1498
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:39,000
Whatever it is, okay, iff is
something that's yes, mostly

1499
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:44,000
military.
But civilian aircraft do have at

1500
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,900
least.
They may not have an

1501
01:35:45,900 --> 01:35:49,900
interrogator, but they have Have
a receiver and transponder,

1502
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,900
okay?
They have to have it as part of

1503
01:35:52,900 --> 01:36:00,500
fa, fa a law that they have to
have an iff system because

1504
01:36:00,500 --> 01:36:08,800
basically if If you don't have
an iff system you are a fo you

1505
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:11,200
are dangerous, right?
Yeah.

1506
01:36:11,300 --> 01:36:14,300
And basically this is, this is
the military's way of

1507
01:36:14,300 --> 01:36:19,800
determining that we don't have
somebody coming here from

1508
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:23,200
another country with a makeshift
aircraft.

1509
01:36:23,300 --> 01:36:26,200
That's going to use it for
Kamikaze mission, right?

1510
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:30,400
Say like an airport in Alaska,
right?

1511
01:36:30,500 --> 01:36:32,800
This guy is coming into land is
planning.

1512
01:36:33,000 --> 01:36:35,400
Get gas.
How do we know without that

1513
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,900
receiver transponder that it's
not a Russian aircraft that just

1514
01:36:38,900 --> 01:36:42,700
made that little jump to Alaska
and is now going to land there.

1515
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,700
You know, we have to know these
sorts of things, you know, where

1516
01:36:45,700 --> 01:36:50,000
is this, whose belongs, who is
this aircraft belonging to and,

1517
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,600
you know, can it transmit and
receive those signals exactly.

1518
01:36:54,000 --> 01:37:00,000
So, the way that the body
language of these people because

1519
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,500
we didn't get straight answers,
I'm just going off the body

1520
01:37:02,500 --> 01:37:06,300
language.
You know, I'm assuming here that

1521
01:37:06,300 --> 01:37:11,200
they did, in fact, get something
back by some of these objects,

1522
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,700
not every object, of course, but
there are cases where they got

1523
01:37:15,700 --> 01:37:20,500
something back where they either
knew exactly what it was, or

1524
01:37:20,500 --> 01:37:25,800
they had no fucking clue.
It was, but the simple fact that

1525
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:33,200
they had the technology that was
the iff system means that That

1526
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:39,400
it is human-based right?
And I can't speak for everything

1527
01:37:40,500 --> 01:37:46,500
but at least some of them were
were human.

1528
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:51,400
You guys got any questions about
that?

1529
01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:56,000
So you said that works off of
radiofrequency.

1530
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,400
Yes, it is.
RF frequencies.

1531
01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,100
Okay.
So my only thing about that is

1532
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:07,400
let's say that they did get a
weird signal back.

1533
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:10,300
I'm not sure.
I'm not well-versed and radio

1534
01:38:10,300 --> 01:38:14,000
frequencies or how that would
even show up to another

1535
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:19,700
aircraft.
But for instance, Tesla, So when

1536
01:38:19,700 --> 01:38:23,100
you talk about Tesla, you know
that he built the Tesla Tower

1537
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:26,900
and the Tesla Tower kind of
gathered electrical energy from

1538
01:38:26,900 --> 01:38:30,900
around itself.
Well, he used radio frequency to

1539
01:38:30,900 --> 01:38:36,500
gather that electrical current.
So you're going with us if

1540
01:38:36,500 --> 01:38:41,300
you're if you're sending out a
radio frequency towards some

1541
01:38:41,300 --> 01:38:46,500
sort of craft and it's using the
electromagnetic field, that's

1542
01:38:46,500 --> 01:38:52,900
around it using Frequency.
I don't know what that would

1543
01:38:52,900 --> 01:38:58,400
look like, as a response to that
message, it would probably look

1544
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:04,800
like alternating code.
So You know, I don't know how

1545
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,700
much I can talk about this and
for all the listeners, Jeremy is

1546
01:39:08,700 --> 01:39:10,900
the nerd on this topic?
I don't really care.

1547
01:39:13,700 --> 01:39:17,400
Is attention enough dealing with
it because it just blew my mind.

1548
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:18,800
I was like, this doesn't make
any sense to me.

1549
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:21,100
This sounds like witchcraft.
So I'm just like, all right.

1550
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:23,200
Whatever.
She excites, the inventory.

1551
01:39:23,700 --> 01:39:26,500
Yeah.
So we gotta fix the ears.

1552
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,700
Jake was, originally a
knuckle-dragger.

1553
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,000
Yeah.
Worked on the propulsion

1554
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,200
systems.
He was known as Back.

1555
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:41,300
So he wasn't this necessarily
into the avionics and the

1556
01:39:41,300 --> 01:39:44,300
electrical components and
everything all the fascinating

1557
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:46,600
fascinating Wizardry that I'm
into.

1558
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,200
Yeah, I was never part of the
club's.

1559
01:39:50,200 --> 01:39:59,900
I don't play D&D, I don't play
D&D either, but I do LARP still

1560
01:39:59,900 --> 01:40:01,600
part of the club then that was a
joke.

1561
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:08,900
I would say because basically
how it all works, is codes,

1562
01:40:08,900 --> 01:40:11,000
right?
You get a code that says okay

1563
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,900
Bubba blah, blah, blah, if
you're working.

1564
01:40:14,300 --> 01:40:18,200
So basically what you're asking
is if we're if we're

1565
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:23,700
interrogating a by, if we're
interrogating, by the FF iff

1566
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:27,700
system and we're interrogating,
something that is using radio

1567
01:40:27,700 --> 01:40:31,000
frequencies such as the
technology used by Tesla.

1568
01:40:31,000 --> 01:40:34,800
In the the alternating current
theory, you know, back when So I

1569
01:40:34,808 --> 01:40:41,200
was fighting, whatever his face
was who had DC current that.

1570
01:40:41,700 --> 01:40:46,200
If we're interrogating, somebody
who's using something similar to

1571
01:40:46,500 --> 01:40:51,100
the Tesla technology, which
could be a different life form.

1572
01:40:52,500 --> 01:40:55,900
How would it look to us?
Is that what the question is?

1573
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:57,700
Yep.
Okay.

1574
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:00,600
Yeah.
It would probably be alternating

1575
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:06,700
or scrambled numbers and, and it
would be scrambled code.

1576
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,500
It would look like wingdings.
Setting on Microsoft Word.

1577
01:41:13,900 --> 01:41:15,600
Yeah.
Yeah, probably.

1578
01:41:15,700 --> 01:41:20,500
I mean, no, no, probably not.
But it would, it wouldn't be a

1579
01:41:20,500 --> 01:41:23,300
steady code.
Probably get More than one code

1580
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:26,500
over and over again.
Just like random codes.

1581
01:41:27,700 --> 01:41:30,100
Be like those.
Maybe, like Independence Day

1582
01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:33,700
when they shoot, the ICBM
through the aliens face and

1583
01:41:33,700 --> 01:41:35,900
they're interrogating.
The and it comes back with the

1584
01:41:35,900 --> 01:41:38,900
skull and crossbones.
It's like, and it shoots the

1585
01:41:39,100 --> 01:41:40,800
missile.
That's what it looked like.

1586
01:41:43,900 --> 01:41:45,900
I got references for days, dude,
let's go.

1587
01:41:46,300 --> 01:41:50,100
I don't, I have no idea.
I don't, honestly, I don't even

1588
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:58,700
know how Like, I don't know how
if the pilot knows anything by

1589
01:41:58,700 --> 01:42:01,300
interrogating them.
I like I really don't know much

1590
01:42:01,300 --> 01:42:05,100
about the system.
No, they're basically they

1591
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:08,500
basically just just no, yes or
no, that's it.

1592
01:42:08,500 --> 01:42:12,800
That's all they know.
It's the pilots are Bonafide bus

1593
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:16,900
drivers, basically, right.
That the let's be honest about

1594
01:42:16,900 --> 01:42:18,700
it.
That's that's what their job is

1595
01:42:18,900 --> 01:42:21,300
right.
Unless you're piloting,

1596
01:42:21,300 --> 01:42:26,500
something like an F-18 or An
Apache helicopter, your job is

1597
01:42:26,700 --> 01:42:30,900
to be a bus driver and I mean
shit, even on that nice.

1598
01:42:30,900 --> 01:42:35,000
Even the H 60s that we worked
on, pretty cool bus, it is a

1599
01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:37,700
pretty fucking awesome bus.
It does look like a minivan

1600
01:42:37,700 --> 01:42:40,900
though.
You're right with rotation a

1601
01:42:40,900 --> 01:42:44,800
tail, but we always even that I
didn't even then the pilots on

1602
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:49,000
the 60s, don't shoot anything.
That's all the air crewmen I

1603
01:42:49,008 --> 01:42:51,100
could.
They got rocket pods and stuff.

1604
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,600
Won't you with that?
Wings on anyway yeah I get it I

1605
01:42:54,600 --> 01:42:58,200
get it I get it right but for
the most part okay their bus

1606
01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:04,600
drivers bus drivers with weapons
will go that Texan bus drivers.

1607
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:08,000
Now any of my pilot friends that
are that are listening to this

1608
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:11,200
right now, I love you guys and
you guys are much more badass

1609
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,400
than the than the bus drivers,
I'm referring to not you guys

1610
01:43:14,700 --> 01:43:17,100
everybody else.
Yeah, the Cod, the Cod flat

1611
01:43:17,100 --> 01:43:22,600
pilot the cops literally they
call him.

1612
01:43:22,700 --> 01:43:25,000
Greyhounds.
It's a Greyhound bus with wings.

1613
01:43:27,300 --> 01:43:29,000
That's funny.
That's very funny.

1614
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:34,500
I never thought about that.
Give are going to be listening

1615
01:43:34,500 --> 01:43:36,900
to this me like these guys need
to shut the fuck up.

1616
01:43:36,900 --> 01:43:39,400
Yeah, they're definitely caused
me.

1617
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:43,300
Get another digital assassin
comment.

1618
01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:47,700
I need digital assassin to man
up and come on the show and talk

1619
01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:48,600
to us.
Oh oh.

1620
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,400
This is the episode.
Hey, Yeah, I think this is the

1621
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,100
episode that's going to bring
them back.

1622
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:58,100
It was Mike.
We have a friend who leaves us

1623
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:01,700
reviews on our show.
His name is digital assassin.

1624
01:44:01,700 --> 01:44:06,300
He does not like this show.
He says we are could probably

1625
01:44:06,300 --> 01:44:09,300
get us.
We are government pogs.

1626
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:12,500
We are paid opposition.
Yeah, that's why we keep saying

1627
01:44:12,500 --> 01:44:14,000
it.
That's why we're going into.

1628
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,200
Yeah.
Literally offered a bunch of

1629
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:20,100
shelf and every uphill, we try
to put something in there for

1630
01:44:20,100 --> 01:44:23,900
him.
See, if he'll update his review

1631
01:44:23,900 --> 01:44:27,400
and make it worse.
He's done it a couple times.

1632
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:33,900
Yeah, he's like no, you're ugly.
So that's it.

1633
01:44:33,900 --> 01:44:35,500
That's pretty.
Much like guys, what do you,

1634
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:39,900
anybody else?
Have anything else from this

1635
01:44:40,500 --> 01:44:41,800
Congressional hearing from
yesterday?

1636
01:44:46,300 --> 01:44:50,900
No second to where I was at
originally, this is just

1637
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:55,300
scratching the surface with a
lot of non answers.

1638
01:44:56,900 --> 01:45:00,000
A whole mess of non-answers, the
really important stuff.

1639
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,900
And even when they were
answering yes or no, to

1640
01:45:03,900 --> 01:45:06,900
something, I mean, I have the
hardest time believing anything

1641
01:45:06,900 --> 01:45:10,500
that they say, because, I mean,
they've got their whole, their

1642
01:45:10,500 --> 01:45:12,100
notes right in front of their
faces.

1643
01:45:12,100 --> 01:45:17,100
Like, like, I don't want to
point any fingers, any specific

1644
01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:21,500
people, but how many times have
we seen an address in the last?

1645
01:45:22,500 --> 01:45:27,000
You know, several months where
someone in the audience asked a

1646
01:45:27,008 --> 01:45:30,400
question, and then a person at
the podium reads from a freaking

1647
01:45:30,400 --> 01:45:33,000
piece of paper with the
questions already on there and

1648
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:36,300
then he reads then the answer is
read off, right?

1649
01:45:36,500 --> 01:45:40,500
How can we be possibly sure that
this is not exactly what's going

1650
01:45:40,500 --> 01:45:44,600
on here.
That the congressmen are asking

1651
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:48,800
these direct questions but how I
mean I didn't see the camera pan

1652
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,200
over to mr.
Bray's notes where it just says

1653
01:45:51,300 --> 01:45:53,500
question And blah, blah, blah,
blah answer.

1654
01:45:53,500 --> 01:45:58,200
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean I have the hardest time

1655
01:45:58,200 --> 01:46:00,800
believing it you know and I
think that mr.

1656
01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,700
Mike had something.
Something going there when he

1657
01:46:03,700 --> 01:46:07,900
said, you know how can we be
sure that they're not in the

1658
01:46:07,900 --> 01:46:11,800
know or however, you know you
phrased it where it's not just

1659
01:46:11,900 --> 01:46:14,800
you know they all know what's
going on and let's just pitch

1660
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:17,900
some, you know, some slow balls
to them and stuff like that.

1661
01:46:17,900 --> 01:46:20,300
And then be like, let's get
these, dang, civilians off our

1662
01:46:20,300 --> 01:46:24,300
backs, right?
It's so hard for me to really

1663
01:46:24,300 --> 01:46:30,300
unless they're going to be 100%
transparent.

1664
01:46:30,300 --> 01:46:33,700
Which I don't think is a good
idea because if it is you know,

1665
01:46:33,708 --> 01:46:36,400
new weapons technology and stuff
like that.

1666
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:39,400
We do have some pretty serious
adversaries around the world.

1667
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,100
I think that it's important to
have those things under wraps.

1668
01:46:42,100 --> 01:46:47,100
Because, yeah, I mean until they
released, you know, it's, I

1669
01:46:47,100 --> 01:46:49,700
don't think that everyone needs
to know that sort of stuff, but

1670
01:46:49,700 --> 01:46:51,800
at the same token and bless
their going.

1671
01:46:51,900 --> 01:46:54,800
To be 100% transparent with
everything.

1672
01:46:55,300 --> 01:46:57,500
I have a hard time believing
really anything that they say.

1673
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:04,900
I love that softball references.
Those good buddy.

1674
01:47:05,600 --> 01:47:08,200
Just throws up there for you.
Okay, little slow pitch for.

1675
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,200
Yeah.
Okay.

1676
01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:12,000
Yeah.
Um we're going to set this one

1677
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:13,500
on the tea for you.
Yeah.

1678
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:16,900
So is that your final thoughts?
Mmm, cool.

1679
01:47:19,500 --> 01:47:24,100
I'm gonna go next Mike I think
you're probably going to have a

1680
01:47:24,108 --> 01:47:29,700
pretty good one.
I the only other thing that I

1681
01:47:29,708 --> 01:47:33,000
have to add to this is that if
you look at the body language of

1682
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:39,100
the people that were talking,
Jake, pretty much had my final

1683
01:47:39,100 --> 01:47:42,400
thoughts.
Is that this was basically

1684
01:47:42,700 --> 01:47:47,800
scripted.
A lot of looks of approval.

1685
01:47:49,000 --> 01:47:51,700
After saying something, looking
to the left looking to a

1686
01:47:51,700 --> 01:47:55,600
particular person and being like
you'll all but being like it I

1687
01:47:55,608 --> 01:47:57,900
do a good.
Yeah that do it, I do it.

1688
01:47:57,900 --> 01:48:02,100
Dad, tell me.
I'm a good boy, paw good job

1689
01:48:02,100 --> 01:48:06,600
Camp.
I mean all.

1690
01:48:06,600 --> 01:48:09,500
But that I mean the body
language was there.

1691
01:48:09,900 --> 01:48:16,000
They were being watched simple
as that, this Yo unfortunately

1692
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,300
was not something that we were
ever going to get real answers

1693
01:48:19,300 --> 01:48:21,900
off of.
This was an introduction to a

1694
01:48:21,900 --> 01:48:29,200
new program where it's just
another way for them to build

1695
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:30,600
the budget.
Thank you, mr.

1696
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:36,600
Mike, because that was not part
of my closing comments but I

1697
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,200
absolutely believe it.
That's it.

1698
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:42,000
I have nothing else to add
Ken's.

1699
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:49,700
Are I want to hear what Mike has
to say, okay, Mike, you'd be the

1700
01:48:49,700 --> 01:49:00,600
first You know whenever anything
like this ever pops up any kind

1701
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:05,600
of disclosure whether it be you
AP or black projects or anything

1702
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:12,900
involving the defense budget I
always say that it's bullshit.

1703
01:49:13,100 --> 01:49:16,500
I think a year ago when they
came out with a nine page

1704
01:49:16,500 --> 01:49:24,100
document I think that was
bullshit and this year is

1705
01:49:24,100 --> 01:49:28,600
nothing different.
I do believe that those

1706
01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:33,500
questions were predetermined and
kind of figured out for them.

1707
01:49:35,900 --> 01:49:38,900
When you look at the videos that
they brought forward, as I said,

1708
01:49:38,900 --> 01:49:42,200
I think they just picked
specific videos that they could

1709
01:49:42,300 --> 01:49:50,000
easily explained away and You
know, tr-3b videos are rampant,

1710
01:49:50,100 --> 01:49:54,200
they're everywhere.
I think that they could have

1711
01:49:54,500 --> 01:49:59,100
picked from a large pool of
videos, and come up with a much

1712
01:49:59,100 --> 01:50:06,300
better evidence in much better
videos, and this is all This is

1713
01:50:06,300 --> 01:50:09,900
all planned to do a couple
things.

1714
01:50:10,500 --> 01:50:13,400
As I've said, build a budget.
You know, you build a new

1715
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:19,000
Department, you say, well, this
department needs money now and

1716
01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:24,000
well, this department is now
part of the dod, which is part

1717
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:26,600
of our military spending, which
is endless.

1718
01:50:27,300 --> 01:50:33,500
So, how do you get money?
You know, you can't imagine if

1719
01:50:33,500 --> 01:50:38,200
we came to this, this Rational
hearing and they said, okay well

1720
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:44,600
we set up this new department
but we're going to be under, you

1721
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,200
know Rd we're going to be under
science.

1722
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:51,400
We're going to be under public
eye.

1723
01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:56,000
You know, we're going to take
money from things that are not

1724
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,500
the military.
Think of how small that budget

1725
01:50:59,500 --> 01:51:04,300
would be think of think of what
they would gain from.

1726
01:51:04,300 --> 01:51:06,600
That would be nothing.
They would, they wouldn't get

1727
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:08,600
shit to probably get a couple
million dollars.

1728
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:12,800
But when you put yourself under
the umbrella of the military,

1729
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:17,200
that opens every door, it opens
every door and it opens every

1730
01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:19,100
person wallet that's in that
room.

1731
01:51:21,500 --> 01:51:25,500
So I think that's a big part of
it and I think that's why they

1732
01:51:25,500 --> 01:51:28,300
kind of outlined.
Yeah, we're part of this, this

1733
01:51:28,300 --> 01:51:32,200
and this and this it is kind of
interesting that they said that

1734
01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:36,700
the DEA was also a part of their
investigations.

1735
01:51:36,700 --> 01:51:40,300
I thought that was kind of
interesting as if aliens are out

1736
01:51:40,300 --> 01:51:41,800
here.
Peddling, smack.

1737
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,200
Bloody, you never know these
days?

1738
01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:52,000
Yeah, I think it's also
Disinformation campaign, like

1739
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:55,700
everything else with the
government, you know, if you

1740
01:51:55,700 --> 01:51:58,000
believe your government, then
you haven't paid attention to

1741
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:01,700
history.
And if you believe that they're

1742
01:52:01,700 --> 01:52:06,000
giving you all the information
that they have save you know,

1743
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:11,700
save special, Black Ops projects
for the military, you know.

1744
01:52:11,700 --> 01:52:17,000
And in technology that they have
then you are you're sorely

1745
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:18,400
mistaken.
Mmm.

1746
01:52:20,700 --> 01:52:23,300
Yeah I think it's just a big
disinformation campaign.

1747
01:52:23,300 --> 01:52:25,100
They're going to push it back
another year.

1748
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:28,300
The next year they're going to
come and say well we looked at a

1749
01:52:28,300 --> 01:52:31,800
couple of other videos Then
they'll still show another

1750
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,600
bullshit video you know or
handful of bullshit videos and

1751
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:38,300
say okay well this one was
definitely a weather balloon

1752
01:52:38,300 --> 01:52:42,700
that's always there go to and I
think they're going to keep

1753
01:52:42,700 --> 01:52:46,500
pushing it back and pushing it
back until there's a point where

1754
01:52:46,500 --> 01:52:51,900
the public is more invested in
it even right now with all this

1755
01:52:51,900 --> 01:52:56,300
stuff going on with Congress and
setting up these these little

1756
01:52:56,300 --> 01:52:59,300
meetings, the public is still
not interested.

1757
01:52:59,400 --> 01:53:01,500
I stood in it the way that they
should.

1758
01:53:01,900 --> 01:53:08,200
Yeah, you know, imagine, you
know, three years has passed and

1759
01:53:08,200 --> 01:53:13,600
all of a sudden, you get 100,000
people that have witnessed a

1760
01:53:13,600 --> 01:53:16,700
Bonafide UFO over the White
House.

1761
01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,100
That's the only way that these
guys are going to turn around

1762
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:27,100
and say, yeah, we knew about it,
we knew what they were, you

1763
01:53:27,100 --> 01:53:29,000
know.
Now we have the evidence that,

1764
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:33,400
you know, they need that thing
put in their face so that they

1765
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:37,800
can no longer deny it and until
that happens until the public is

1766
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,200
fully involved and they're held
accountable for everything that

1767
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,000
they do.
They will not tell us everything

1768
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:46,400
that we want to know.
And for those of us that are

1769
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:52,500
interested We just keep waiting
bated breath and I don't think

1770
01:53:52,500 --> 01:53:54,800
we're going to get answers for
quite a while.

1771
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:57,900
Yeah, because there's like
ditto.

1772
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:03,400
Yeah, I'm sorry.
I don't really have much to add

1773
01:54:03,400 --> 01:54:07,200
to the table everything that
it's all been said.

1774
01:54:08,300 --> 01:54:10,700
Copy that.
Good job, kid.

1775
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:16,200
Thanks gonna go places.
I already knew that she's the

1776
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:19,000
new face of the show.
She is chiz.

1777
01:54:19,300 --> 01:54:22,500
That's yeah, she went live for
the first time today on

1778
01:54:22,500 --> 01:54:25,600
Instagram.
I'm taking over.

1779
01:54:25,900 --> 01:54:27,900
Yeah.
All right.

1780
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:31,700
Well mr.
Mike, thanks for coming on, man.

1781
01:54:31,700 --> 01:54:35,400
Really do appreciate you coming
in last second because literally

1782
01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:40,200
gave him like 15 minutes notice.
And I can't believe I'm Trooper.

1783
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,200
So appreciate that.
I five mystery.

1784
01:54:42,200 --> 01:54:46,300
My mom is on the ready.
That's awesome.

1785
01:54:46,300 --> 01:54:49,400
Reach a judgment.
Won't you go ahead and let

1786
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:54,900
everybody know who you are where
they can find you and All that,

1787
01:54:54,900 --> 01:54:57,100
you know, you know.
I know the drill.

1788
01:54:57,100 --> 01:55:00,000
I know the drill thanks guys for
having me on.

1789
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,000
I really appreciate it and I
hope that it's not another 90

1790
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episodes or something.
Before I come on, there's only

1791
01:55:09,800 --> 01:55:11,000
80.
All right.

1792
01:55:11,000 --> 01:55:18,700
Yeah, close enough 81.
Now, we're getting specific as

1793
01:55:18,700 --> 01:55:23,300
it went ahead.
Yeah, I am mystery Mike from the

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01:55:23,300 --> 01:55:24,900
hush-hush.
Aditi conspiracy.

1795
01:55:24,900 --> 01:55:31,300
Our we are a trio LED podcast
audio only for now where we

1796
01:55:31,300 --> 01:55:35,500
cover, conspiracy theories,
Cryptids Mysteries, fringe

1797
01:55:35,500 --> 01:55:39,200
science, all that, good stuff,
all that fun stuff.

1798
01:55:40,300 --> 01:55:43,600
We tend to stay away from
politics because that'll just

1799
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:47,500
get us in a lot of trouble.
But we're anywhere that you can

1800
01:55:47,500 --> 01:55:50,400
find podcasts.
Especially I think the popular

1801
01:55:50,400 --> 01:55:53,000
one is Apple podcast and
Spotify.

1802
01:55:53,500 --> 01:55:58,400
So you Definitely find us on
there and June 6th.

1803
01:55:59,100 --> 01:56:01,900
We're also on all social medias,
you find us on Facebook

1804
01:56:01,900 --> 01:56:05,100
Instagram, Twitter, twitch
Discord.

1805
01:56:05,300 --> 01:56:07,600
All That Jazz hush-hush
Society.com.

1806
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:12,500
We have a website, you know, we
cover all the bases but June

1807
01:56:12,500 --> 01:56:15,400
6th, 7 p.m.
Eastern Standard time.

1808
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:18,800
We are doing a live show on our
Facebook so you can join our

1809
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,700
Facebook group and be a part of
it.

1810
01:56:20,900 --> 01:56:23,700
We're going to be covering
transhumanism.

1811
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:27,500
And always with our live show,
we cover a secret society.

1812
01:56:27,500 --> 01:56:31,200
This time around, it will be the
yellow sand Society.

1813
01:56:31,600 --> 01:56:37,500
This will also be our fifth live
show and our 50th 50 debriefing.

1814
01:56:37,500 --> 01:56:41,600
So it's a pretty big one.
Ice, we're going to be giving

1815
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,700
away stickers t-shirts, the
usual stuff.

1816
01:56:44,700 --> 01:56:50,000
But we will, oh books also, but
we will also be giving away an

1817
01:56:50,000 --> 01:56:52,600
artistic skate deck done by
yours.

1818
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:57,100
Truly I could I hated myself and
work.

1819
01:56:57,100 --> 01:56:59,700
The would be pretty good at
that.

1820
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:02,700
That's not really really waxed
it.

1821
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:09,400
But yeah could hey if you like
infinite Rabbit Hole you'll like

1822
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:15,000
us where we're different kinds
of holes but you know, we're

1823
01:57:15,000 --> 01:57:17,400
fun.
So, thank you again, guys.

1824
01:57:17,400 --> 01:57:20,600
Appreciate it.
That's, that's some good stuff.

1825
01:57:25,900 --> 01:57:29,000
Oh man.
Yeah I wasn't able to make the

1826
01:57:29,008 --> 01:57:33,800
last live episode.
I was working but usually I hype

1827
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:37,100
up your live episodes pretty
well and I'll do the same this

1828
01:57:37,100 --> 01:57:38,500
time.
June 6th.

1829
01:57:38,500 --> 01:57:41,300
I don't believe them working.
It's a Monday.

1830
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:42,300
Yeah.
Yep.

1831
01:57:42,300 --> 01:57:44,000
Oh is a Monday?
Yep.

1832
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:45,800
I'm Daisy one days for
everything.

1833
01:57:45,800 --> 01:57:48,000
It's our special day.
We like to start the week off,

1834
01:57:48,000 --> 01:57:50,100
right?
Oh I might have talked about.

1835
01:57:50,600 --> 01:57:56,500
I have soccer you said P.m.
Eastern Eastern. 66, I'll be a

1836
01:57:56,508 --> 01:58:00,000
little late but I'll be there
that's Keys here in the, all

1837
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,100
right.
And we'll post it on the

1838
01:58:02,100 --> 01:58:05,600
infinite Rabbit Hole page.
So all of our friend, our group,

1839
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:08,600
sorry group.
Not the page, the group of our

1840
01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:11,000
friends over there.
We'll we'll see if we can post

1841
01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:13,100
bodies over there for you to
free stuff.

1842
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:16,000
Everybody free stuff.
Yeah, free stuff just for just

1843
01:58:16,000 --> 01:58:19,100
for being in attendance.
It's like a like a participation

1844
01:58:19,100 --> 01:58:22,100
trophy is Oprah going to be
there is going to be The car

1845
01:58:22,100 --> 01:58:26,700
under my seat.
Yeah, mystery and eat sandwiches

1846
01:58:29,500 --> 01:58:38,300
duct taped underneath your seat.
I will go ahead and give

1847
01:58:38,300 --> 01:58:41,600
everybody all the Travelers in
the infinite Rabbit Hole.

1848
01:58:41,700 --> 01:58:47,000
A little tidbit on how to win
some of these free things they

1849
01:58:47,000 --> 01:58:51,300
do.
Trivia.

1850
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:56,500
So, wash up on your hush-hush
Society episodes.

1851
01:58:57,200 --> 01:59:02,900
My listen, if you listen between
episode 40 and 49, they're all

1852
01:59:02,900 --> 01:59:06,400
your answers.
So all your answers will be in

1853
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:11,200
there and I've never won trivia.
But I've gotten close the first

1854
01:59:11,200 --> 01:59:16,600
three First three seasons.
You're always within a point.

1855
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:20,400
I always am.
It was, he's like the third one.

1856
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,600
I thought I had it.
I had it locked up and here

1857
01:59:23,600 --> 01:59:27,000
comes Jeffrey.
Fernandez, and I'm like horses,

1858
01:59:27,000 --> 01:59:30,700
Jeff there.
Yeah, Chef Oz.

1859
01:59:30,900 --> 01:59:33,600
I always because I'm in a
different time zone.

1860
01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:35,300
I unfortunately, always miss
them.

1861
01:59:35,700 --> 01:59:37,100
When I'm still working as a
time.

1862
01:59:37,100 --> 01:59:39,900
They start.
I'm in Pacific.

1863
01:59:40,300 --> 01:59:43,000
Oh, entered 4 p.m.
I'm on the west coast.

1864
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,800
Yeah.
As Dave Declassified, Dave

1865
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:49,000
wondrich, I'm usually working
when they start so half the

1866
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:53,000
time, I miss them and by the
time I'm done what I'm doing and

1867
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:56,600
I'm home.
And yeah, she can time zones.

1868
01:59:56,800 --> 02:00:00,600
I know how, how big can it all
just be the same right?

1869
02:00:01,400 --> 02:00:07,400
Goodness gracious.
All right, that's it.

1870
02:00:08,900 --> 02:00:11,500
Thanks Mike, really do
appreciate you coming in dude.

1871
02:00:12,400 --> 02:00:15,500
Really helped us out a lot.
This has been another episode of

1872
02:00:15,500 --> 02:00:18,000
the infinite rabbit hole on the
Paranormal Network.

1873
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:21,600
Thank you once again for
listening to this horrible

1874
02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:27,300
podcast.
Until next time we'll see you at

1875
02:00:27,300 --> 02:00:29,100
the next fork in the infinite
rabbit hole.

1876
02:00:30,500 --> 02:00:33,100
Bye everybody.
Bye, bye.

1877
02:00:35,500 --> 02:00:36,000
Okay.