Communion Part 2

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Hey guys, my name is Kieran and
you're listening to the infinite

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Rabbit Hole.
Keep up the good work, guys.

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Sexual content in trigger
warning.

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This episode contains
conversation about alien and

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human molestation.
Also, Jeremy says, penis a lot,

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but don't worry.
I say weiner way more than he

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says penis anyway.
Last time on communion part 1

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I'm sure once we once we know
that you're going to give me

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like, can you do like, what
Netflix does?

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Where they do like previously on
Vikings previously on communion

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here?
Presented by the infinite rev

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roll guy gets abducted or
believes.

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He gets abducted by aliens and
goes through many different

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places with said, aliens seeing
many different kinds of Let's

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get something shove of his but
we made a joke about how it

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tastes purple.
And no tasted gray gray.

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Sorry.
And now you're all caught up.

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And that's pretty much it.
All right.

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We spent an hour doing that
great.

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We do that a lot.
So sounds like yeah, stand.

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Penis.
Welcome back to the infinite

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Rabbit Hole everybody.
I am your host, Jeremy and

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today, we're going to jump into
part 2 of the communion Saga by

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Whitley.
Strieber about his personal

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experiences, with abductions,
from the unknown little grey,

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aliens, sticking things up his
butt before are actually let me

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take that back.
We're on the subjects of the

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sticking things up your butt.
Jake, what's going on, man?

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How you doing?
Just over here sticking things

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up my butt, dude.
I'm totally gonna be like last

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time on communion and just have
you running through that little

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Spiel.
It's perfect.

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No, I'm okay.
I feel like I'm kind of coming

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down with something but other
than that.

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Yeah, not bad.
All right, well, I actually

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know, you know, we'll skip that
Jeffrey.

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We'll go to you buddy.
We see that you have a nice new

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background for those of you that
are blessed to watch us.

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On the You Tube the tube of you,
you can see what our logo looks

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like, right.
Next to our other logo, which

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you can also see what it looks
like next to Jake's logo behind

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him.
We can also see what it looks

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like there and then also, you
know, Ken's are which will get

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you soon, don't want to spoiler
cleansers here, not that you can

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see or not your logo and my
little tiny one, right?

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I hear and then the logo for the
channel.

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Yeah, yeah.
Anyways Jeff happy New Year,

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buddy.
What's going on?

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Happy New Year bud.
I'm here man.

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Just burnt you know,
representing the brand, you

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know, I'm on that branding level
right now.

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You know it's good week.
I'm surprised he's not a shadow

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band logo.
I have that one set up right now

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as well.
I can flip it around but you

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know.
Are you going to be doing a

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shuttle band episode soon?
Yeah, I've actually got a whole

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new format that I've been
working on.

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I'm going to do like Have
streams am even thinking about

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having a call-in number.
I want to call in call in live

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and we can chitchat.
So that might be fun.

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So soon bro, let us know how
that works out.

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Maybe we'll set something up
like that for for us.

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We will see soon maybe and last
but not lease.

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Kid, the kid cans.
Are how you doing, hello?

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I'm doing fantastic as good as I
can be living like yeah, got

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kicked out of the other room
there.

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So now I'm got a new setup.
Got my tapestry back there, and

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that was a big deal.
So, I made sure that made it

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made its way up on the wall.
There's a tapestry or tape is

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tree tapping on the pole.
That's how I said, Put it on

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pull.
Oh nope.

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We're gonna let the travelers to
have history.

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All right, anything new guys,
what's going on?

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What's up?
Tell me things, we have to piss

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off.
The people that don't like

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chitchat just work, man, you
know working every day.

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Paying them bills every, every
other day it seems like, you

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know, taxes.
Same old.

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No, yes, taxes.
This is taxes in Florida.

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I thought that it was like not
state taxes.

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I mean there's a their sales
tax, but there's no state tax

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here, so that's good.
But I do pay federal taxes is

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really, but taxation is theft.
That's a whole nother show, tho

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tune in on the shadow band
podcast, definitely a shuttle

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band.
I mean, I broke Jeremy's Heart

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by giving him some news that he
didn't expect last night.

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Hmm.
Tell him.

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I'm not quitting.
He's pregnant 70, not pregnant,

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sorry.
Not you.

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Jeremy or Me, you will your the
whole things up your butter?

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I don't know.
We just oh I can't get break

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carry on.
Yeah, well I don't know.

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Never mind now also tune in to
shout about for that, but no,

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yeah, I'm not moving to
Wisconsin, decided to put family

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in front of, you know,
opportunities elsewhere.

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And I mean, considering that I
backed off on that one that I've

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been hyped for for like six
months or more.

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Like, you really don't know what
I'll pull next.

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So you should probably get a
hold of CJ just in case

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apparently still listens to the
show.

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So CJ might get calls here soon
actually texted me today.

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It's kind of funny kid.
I got this is CJ.

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I miss you.
If you're listening, I miss you

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bro.
I haven't talked to you in a

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while.
I'm going to message you or

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message.
We should reach out to him and

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get him back on the show for an
episode.

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Yeah.
Is he fun?

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It's sweet.
We should have CJ.

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If you're if you're listening to
this reach out to me because

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I'll forget All right, boy.
So communion all right.

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What to say?
What to say.

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We're going to go through, quite
a bit of information today.

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You're going to kind of notice
that.

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Each time we do a communion
episode at least for the first

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three episodes because I have
the next to done this one.

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In the next one, we're kind of
going to build on the first

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episode.
So for those of you that have

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not heard the first episode, I
do still very much highly

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recommend that you go ahead and
take a minute and go check that

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out.
Listen to it, you're going to

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get the base, the, the solid
foundation, the structure of, of

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the, the story behind communion
by Whitley strieber and about

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his Like firsthand experiences
with these things or you know

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supposably firsthand experiences
with these things and we're

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going to dive a little bit
deeper with more details of

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those stories to today and on
the next episode.

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So yes, we will be doing a
back-to-back communion here and

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it will not be the end.
We will dive further into

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communion.
The last time we release a

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communion episode, which was
part one was on December 9th.

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So here we are.
Well over a month diving into

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part two.
So For those that are not

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familiar with the story or that
forgot the story, please stop

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here.
Listen to part one, but if you

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don't want to, I don't think
you're going to be completely

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lost.
Like I said, we do quite a bit

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of review and dive into deeper
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Before we get started, cast
members.

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Do you guys have anything?
Any questions any clearing up

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that you guys want before we get
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Nah, I think I'm good.
We are free.

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Nope.
Okay, on audio.

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They can't see you shaking your
head.

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Well, you know, you can see me,
right?

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You can get, is, I'm gonna have
to edit out some of that five

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second, pause.
Oh, no!

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Leave it just quiet.
Well, don't all right.

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Let's see.
Let me bring it up here.

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Alright.
Communion part 2 and dive in the

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first paragraph that I made for
presentation, the search for

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help at the beginning of chapter
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With these Troopers book.
Communion he introduces his

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thoughts about seeing a
psychiatrist due to the strange

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events with alien beings, which
we discussed in our part 1 in

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our coverage of the story.
He was clear about the

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importance of finding, the right
person to talk to

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professionally.
He stressed the importance of

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finding someone with an open
mind but also someone who has

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the ability to identify any real
mental issues.

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He was having if that turned out
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necessity being that the
therapist It would preferably be

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a practicing hypnotherapist.
This is due to Whitley's gut

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feeling that there were still
missing parts of his hazy memory

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that he wanted to uncover with
help from the ufologists we

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discussed in part one mr.
Budd Hopkins, from down the

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street of their home in New York
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A doctor was found by Hopkins by
the name of dr.

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Donald Klein of the New York
State psychiatric Institute dr.

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Klein checked off many of the
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He was open-minded serious.
Reputable practice.

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Of therapy and most important of
all it was completely unfamiliar

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with Whitley story.
So that is the quick

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introduction to.
What we're going to be talking

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about today.
As you can see, we're going to

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be visiting a hypnotherapist
with Whitley and Budd Hopkins,

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and we're going to dive into The
subconscious of Whitley strieber

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and his memories.
You guys ready to roll?

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You guys are any questions?
No, ready to roll.

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Let's do this.
Let's do it.

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Alright next next paragraph, a
real concern before we dive into

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the transcripts from Whitley's,
hypnosis therapy sessions with

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dr.
Klein, I think it is important

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to understand a few things about
Whitley strieber himself and his

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belief in the effectiveness in
hypnotic regression therapy at

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this point in his life.
Yes, these events took place

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before.
And during the times, when

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Whitley was writing, fictional
novels about a variety of

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topics, this tied with the
research he had done on hypnosis

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left him believing that people
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Either by telling the doctor
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the hypnotist wants to hear, or
what the patient may want to

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believe themselves.
Willie was worried that he may

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have secretly wanted the idea of
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arriving to save Humanity from
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I mean the guy was known as a
writer Apocalyptic science

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fiction, after all, he thought
maybe his subconscious created

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these events to cure some
underlying hidden anxiety of

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realism behind his writings and
what, if his time conscious

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continued, this obnoxious story,
and none of it ended up to be

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true.
Alright, let's Dive Right In the

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first dive, everybody.
Let me take a second to increase

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my museum in a little bit
because my eyes, my eyes don't

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work, so good.
Alright, the first dive, the

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time finally came for Whitley to
undergo hypnosis under dr.

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Klein supervision with Budd
Hopkins sitting in the room to

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record and witness the whole
experience Whitley eventually

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succumb to dr.
Klein's control and drifted off

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into nothingness.
After a few control base

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questions such as what is your
name birthday.

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And what did you do this?
Weekend Whitley fell deeper into

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the foreign feeling of distance
but Mindful and present he

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describes quote.
At that point I felt relaxed and

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calm but not asleep.
I was completely aware of my

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surroundings but visually
witness nothing.

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No.
The following is a summary of

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the entire transcript from dr.
Klein's, hypnosis session with

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Whitley strieber on March 1st,
1986, this session uncovers, the

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Deep secured truth of the events
of Whitley's first event from

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October 4th 1985.
Dr. Klein slowly brings Whitley

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back to the night in question
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Dialogue by asking about the
trip to the cabin in Upstate New

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York with his family and their
friends shot quiz and Annie they

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soon progressed to dinner and
not before long.

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They battle at the, they settle
at the first time Whitley

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Witnesses, something big moving
by a window that he could see in

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the living room from his bed.
He describes it as a light in

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the front yard and through
jumbled speech.

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He moves on to describe himself
looking into the darkest corner

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of his room inside the Shadows.
Should a darker form standing

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roughly three foot tall.
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darkness being as to why it was
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I don't want it to be there, I
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Please got it.
What's it?

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Doing to me at this moment,
Whitley snap out of trance and

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was completely upset.
Whatever it was it was

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completely unknown to him and
Whitley is now back to being

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awake out of his hypnotherapy
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So, what do you guys think so
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I mean, I'm I got no problem
with this at all.

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So far, honestly, I totally
believe hypnotherapy is legit to

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some extent, right?
But especially with what we're

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talking about on the Gateway
stuff.

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Definitely some level.
Yeah of that.

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So, get it.
But what's the being right?

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I mean, I've got a couple of
experiences where I had, I don't

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know if it was just a nightmare
or like a weird in between.

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I think I might have talked
about it.

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Before.
But you know, I've had weird

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experiences like that too.
So you know if you're being if

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you're having some memory
brought up like that, like how

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much of that is?
You actually saying, like this

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is what I'm seeing or that's
just like, what your memory of

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that is, you know, what I'm
saying is like I have memories

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as a kid and I'm like, yo, for
real there was a monster under

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my bed, right?
Obviously not.

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But if I had, if I got like
hypnotized and, like, brought

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that up, what I still think it
was a monster, or what I be able

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to explain and articulate like
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It's just like a jumbled up mess
of dirty laundry or some

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bullshit.
I guess it's one of those things

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where you have to have been
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Kind of know what the experience
is like and what you're actually

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remembering just a strange
concept.

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But I don't, I agree with Jeff,
but I don't know if you can

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actually remember being
hypnotized.

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Like every see, that's that's
what I'm kind of struggling with

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here is.
I personally have never been

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hypnotized.
So all of this is just hearsay,

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his story and what not in my
head to this, to me, just comes

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across as a hearsay situation.
He thinks he was remembering

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something that very well, could
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I don't know what that said that
experience is like, so for all I

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know this guy is just making
shit up.

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Yeah, it's not saying that it's
Hypnotherapy isn't a thing or

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that it doesn't work or that
it's bad or anything like that?

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Like, whatever do you think,
right?

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But I don't know this, just I'm
really struggling with this

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whole believing.
What he's saying is what he

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actually experienced.
My understanding of hypnotherapy

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is that this subject that's
under hypnosis like brings up,

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regressive, memories and talks.
Them.

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And then the hypnotherapist then
gives them suggestions and ideas

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to help them to overcome the
sort of stuff.

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But everything I've seen people
that come out of hypnosis, don't

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remember talking about that
stuff, they don't remember any

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of that stuff because they're
implanting this stuff in their

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subconscious where their mind
has more or less blocked it out

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because of traumatic experiences
or whatever it is and it helps

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them to get past, you know,
whatever it is.

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Fear of flying fear of heights,
you know, fear of riding in a

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car whatever.
I write for the dark but they

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don't remember the
conversations.

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And remember, you know, speaking
like children and talking about

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these horrible things that
happen to them as a child or

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whatever the situation is.
So from what I'm hearing from

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him of saying like oh I remember
all this stuff, I don't buy it

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now, he it could be legit and
there could be.

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I mean I'd have to Google it.
I probably will during her next

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session and we'll talk about it
at the next Junction.

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But from what I There stand.
It just sounds like he's just

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trying to add more fluff to his
book and just expecting people

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to believe it versus people
being like, well, I don't agree

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with that.
I don't think that that's

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actually what happened.
Well, I want to, I want to point

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out a few things, one, he did
say that he was looking for

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somebody who wouldn't progress
his own, right story Into the

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hypnotherapy, he did say that.
That he had Budd Hopkins to the

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ufologists with him in the room
for recording purposes, right?

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And also a blurp that I did not
include, was that he had him in

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there for first specifically,
for that reason, to monitor that

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exact situation, and making sure
that the doctor isn't putting,

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or isn't basically flowing him
through the certain path.

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Now, the other thing I want to
point out too, is that there?

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I have done a lot of research
into a lot of these 40 and like

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topics for you Mike.
Stories and subjects that I've

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seen, I've read both.
And that's a very good question.

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Jake do they or do they not
remember the immediate time

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right?
After, like, if they do, they

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wake up and they're like, huh,
that was strange or do they be

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like Duck?
What did I say right from now

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Hollywood would have you believe
that it is the latter?

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You know what you were saying?
I don't know what the truth is

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and that's a very good question.
I'm going to look it up.

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My only thing now is just to add
on to that who's to say that the

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doctor and Bud didn't have a
conversation beforehand but

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filled the guy yet Right.
Also true.

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Yeah, that's just Devil's
Advocate argument here.

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Yep, but I will say if you guys
don't like hypnotherapy, this is

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gonna be a bad episode for you.
It's been a rough one but it has

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a lot of very interesting stuff
so you guys ready to move on

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Jeff you got anything else but
Now he's shaking his head

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everybody.
Nope. all right, real quick, it

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says Clinical hypnotherapy,
Sydney, frequently asked

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questions, whatever it says,
most people have the ability to

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remember everything that occurs
when in hypnosis, although some

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may not always remember it.
All, of course, there might be

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small trivial things that are
forgotten.

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There is a minority of people
who may not remember what

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happens in hypnosis.
However, this is a very small

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percentage so it looks like
that.

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He definitely could have
remembered Did you know what?

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He went through or what he saw
and stuff like that.

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So then then the thing is, you
know, like what Jeff was saying,

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is it that he is or maybe Ken's
are is it that he is actually

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remembering events or he's at
remembering allies told himself

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a bunch of times and is selling
merchandise for it.

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Is it that you know maybe
Something entirely different

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happened when he wasn't
hypnosis.

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But for the sake of his book
he's like this is what happened

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during it.
Yeah.

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Versus like they asked him, they
asked him.

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Like, let's go into this thing.
Is I go I made it all up for

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book sales or whatever.
And then when he's doing his

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book, he's just like, oh and I
had this crazy Vision, you know,

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or whatever.
You know, the the circumstance

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was, I don't know.
I would like to see, you know,

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what was that?
You said, the guy that

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ufologists guide guy's name was
Budd Hopkins but Hopkins if he

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has any documents where he is
also solidifying that this is

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what occurred in this room, you
know.

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Also very good question.
I'll have to look into that as

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well.
I don't have that answer for

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you.
Well, I mean just like as a

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general yeah, thought or
whatever it just like there

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would have to be more than this
because so far.

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I'm not on board with him and
his story but in the thing I

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brought up last time was you
know, what about his family or

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whatever it was, do they have
compatibility saying?

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Like yes, this occurred and what
not versus just him saying that.

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That, you know, heart for I
believe gets more into that,

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but, you know, much, yes, you
had mentioned that he talked

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about his kids, write it his
kid, he mentioned, he talked

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about him and that he said that
all this stuff was going on, but

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I want to know from the kids own
mouth that this was going on,

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not what his dad is saying.
He said, you know, interesting

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interest.
Yeah, so hmm, which is defined

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in these sort of circumstances.
Love to hear that too.

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A second, a second opinion on
the story or like the second

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right version of the story
because because there's three

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versions to every story, your
version, my version and the

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truth, right?
So this very well could be that

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Whitley's version his sons
version and then the truth of

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what happened.
I would love to hear that story,

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then that's that might be
something I get into when I get

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into the next book I'm going to
read for this topic.

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It's a book called Called report
on communion by Ed Conroy.

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And it's literally a book about
this book and maybe Edge can get

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a little bit more into.
This is what his son said?

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It was maybe.
I mean that's that's what we get

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with injured cold, right?
It's not just it's not just

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Woody that's saying like this
happened to me.

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It's then Tanya saying this
happened, you know, and still

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happen stuff like that.
It adds more credibility to the

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experience which I still I may
not buy it but it's a lot harder

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to be like.
Now this is ridiculous because

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there's multiple layers of this
story, right?

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But in this circumstance, it's
just him.

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And him saying, well this is
what my kids said, and this is

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what other people said, and this
is what the therapist said.

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All that sort of stuff.
I could just be lying about it.

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All if I said, Jeremy told me
that I'm the handsomest man on

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Earth and I put it in a book.
He just never said that.

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But I could just say that he
did.

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Right, right.
Know, until I go out with a book

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saying I did.
Well, and that would completely,

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you know, knock off.
Everyone that would say that,

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that would be fake, right?
I don't know if we have that

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from this story.
True, true.

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All right, so there's a kind of
caveat there, right?

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There's a, you know, are you
putting how much weight are you

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putting into Whitley's words and
self by from themselves?

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So good?
Yeah.

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So let's keep going.
Yeah, for sure.

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Obviously there's there's is the
elephant in the room right there

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but yeah that never gets
answered and tell you they're

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not until like part 7 or 8 when
I start looking into other point

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of views from of the story.
Yes you get you guys ready to

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roll?
Yeah all right Jeffrey.

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Okay.
Alright.

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Alright next one.
A little bit of clarification.

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Whitley slowly calm down and
completely reverse, his

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excitement and Terror into calm,
slow and Confused speech,

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Whitley acted, as if he had just
woken from the deepest sleep of

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his life.
When asked about the thing in

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the shadow, he describes the
being as sort of like a little

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person wearing a hood.
He describes the thing, as being

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able to insert something
directly into his mind, a

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speech, or language of sort of,
some sort, one full of clicks.

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Squeaks smacking and shallow
Soon after Whitley was no longer

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under hypnosis, the men agreed
to go back in and cover more of

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the events from that night.
So he was sent back into trance

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and began describing.
The moment, the being came out

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of the Shadow and approached the
side of his bed.

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Calmer this time with leave
described it as being short with

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dark slanted eyes, and as it
looked down at him in his bed,

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Whitley was able to see that the
being was completely Bolt.

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It's slowly reached out and
touched with his head with an

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object that reminded him of a
ruler with a solar.

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Silver Tip whenever the being
made contact with his forehead,

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with his object, a picture
appeared in his mind, the first

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image was of the Earth blowing
up as well as a few others.

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The beings voice told them that
this is your home and asked

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Whitley, do you know why this
will happen?

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Whitley responded by saying, I
know why?

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And then ask the being Why don't
you like me?

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The being then replied, I will
not hurt you as a large bang

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erupted in Whitley.
Began yelling that the house is

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on fire and snapped back out of
hypnosis.

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As Whitley was regaining
Consciousness in the present.

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He described that it wasn't a
fire in the house.

452
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,200
Instead the being held out a
small needle, like object inches

453
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,100
from his face.
The object exploded into a

454
00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:53,700
blinding flash of pure white
light coupled with the familiar

455
00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:56,800
Bang.
When Whitley describes a bang

456
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,500
Budd, Hopkins immediately asked
him if it was the same.

457
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:03,300
Bang heard by his son and wife
that night Willie simply

458
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:04,000
replied.
Yes.

459
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,700
That was the thing.
That was the one when my son

460
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:10,400
thought I was throwing my shoe,
all three men discuss the

461
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,700
physical features of this thing,
but nothing new came from it.

462
00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,800
But as they were revisiting, the
pictures that were being forced

463
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,200
into his head Whitley,
highlighted one other image,

464
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:25,000
other than the Earth blowing up,
it was a picture of a serene.

465
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,700
Rain and beautiful Green Park
with his son although it was a

466
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:32,100
pleasant picture with he could
not help but feel that this

467
00:27:32,100 --> 00:27:35,800
significant or that this
significant signified, the death

468
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,500
of his son.
He believed that the only thing

469
00:27:38,500 --> 00:27:40,700
that could be this peaceful was
Heaven.

470
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,500
It was at this moment that Budd
Hopkins connected a few dots.

471
00:27:44,700 --> 00:27:48,300
He believed that these two
specific pictures were meant to

472
00:27:48,308 --> 00:27:50,400
show him.
His biggest fears of losing his

473
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,000
son and an end times.
Apocalyptic event with the

474
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,400
agreed and made.
An even further connections to

475
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,300
the book.
He was working on called War day

476
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:02,600
at in which Whitley had to dig
deep for the darkest demise of

477
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,900
Earth for the story, he could
not remember any other pictures

478
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,500
but he assured that there was at
least one more.

479
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:11,300
He described it as being jumbled
or scrambled.

480
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:15,800
So the men agreed never going
back for one more time today.

481
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,100
All right guys were at a
Breaking Point.

482
00:28:18,100 --> 00:28:25,900
What you guys think so far?
This is, this is all just his

483
00:28:25,900 --> 00:28:30,100
memory, right?
This is there's no actual

484
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,600
evidence of these beings.
All you correct?

485
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:42,200
Yes, this is just in his mind.
As far as many men as far as we

486
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:47,400
do know, maybe it's just because
I've been on this like space is

487
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,300
fake kick for a while right or
something?

488
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:54,700
I don't know, but anytime I
think of aliens my immediate

489
00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:58,900
shift is it's got to be
interdimensional entities you

490
00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,100
know interacting with us and
Altered States Of Consciousness

491
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,400
like deep sleep or meditative
States.

492
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,600
So you know maybe I don't know,
that's just kind of where I'm

493
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,200
leaning, right?
Now, it's probably an entity

494
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,100
messing with this guy could be
implanting information for sure.

495
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,700
Who knows what agenda this
entity as we think.

496
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:22,700
Jeff trip sir.
Trickster.

497
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:24,600
Yeah, yeah.
Maybe.

498
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,200
So the Gin bro.
You know, I was actually just

499
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,000
talking about this with my
girlfriend of the day, the Jinn.

500
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,300
And like the idea that we don't
really, you know, we live in

501
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:39,000
time, we talked about this on
Gateway, we live in time, you

502
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,800
know, in these entities could be
outside of time, they could be

503
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,900
an alternate, or, you know,
whatever Dimensions where the

504
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:48,000
time doesn't exist.
So a gin right?

505
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,500
A genie trickster.
One of these entities who

506
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,600
existed a million years ago
could still be existing right

507
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,400
now.
Could just be like a Weekend for

508
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,500
this thing.
As far as We Know, just fucking

509
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:02,700
with people.
Could show up at any point in

510
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,900
time because it lives literally
in a dimension where time

511
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:07,400
doesn't exist.
Yep.

512
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,000
Just fucking with people that
you're afraid of your son dying

513
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,400
in the apocalypse or some
images, write a book.

514
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,200
And you know, there's one thing
I want to point out too is that

515
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:21,500
Whitley was quite known for his
apocalyptic writings.

516
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,900
I mean, he wasn't ever like the
most popular of authors or, you

517
00:30:27,908 --> 00:30:32,200
know, his books never really
made a huge I know that after

518
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,800
the communion story or maybe
before, I'm not sure.

519
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,300
I think it was after he came out
with a book called the greys,

520
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,300
which end up doing really good,
but I think it was due to the

521
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:43,300
communion story that ended up
doing good because he ended up.

522
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,100
I believe you wrote the book the
greys, as a reflection of the

523
00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:49,100
community story.
And he came out and said,

524
00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,600
obviously this one is completely
fictional.

525
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:58,700
But I did get my my interest for
this from the grades are from

526
00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:03,600
the community.
But, you know, so he that is

527
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,100
something that he definitely did
worry about.

528
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:08,600
He did a lot of research into
apocalyptic events, whether they

529
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,900
be from The Acts of God or from
humans themselves nuclear war

530
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:23,600
natural natural events such as
super volcanoes or or asteroid

531
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,200
or whatnot.
I mean he pretty much wrote

532
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,500
about it all.
It was kind of a specialty that

533
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:31,200
you know that just goes right
with my Point.

534
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,500
I mean, you know some of these,
in my opinion, some of these

535
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,400
entities are very parasitic,
right?

536
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,600
They feed off of negative
energies, fears, anxiety, and

537
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,700
all kinds of stuff, right?
Well, these demons or whatever,

538
00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:45,500
they literally are just out
there messing with people.

539
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:48,400
Making them anxious, making them
afraid showing them their fears

540
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,500
in their dreams in the form of
nightmares or however you can

541
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:55,700
imagine, right?
And maybe this guy is just one

542
00:31:55,700 --> 00:31:58,900
of the billion people that are
affected by this kind of thing.

543
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,600
Also, very convenient to be a
writer on end times type stuff,

544
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,500
or Global catastrophe, type
stuff.

545
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:13,700
So that later on when something
really big happens like Mount

546
00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:16,000
st.
Helens 2.0, he can be like, ah,

547
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,400
this is what I saw in my dream
and then give him himself his

548
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,600
own credibility, through his
bologna story.

549
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,100
So, I'm gonna come back to Budd
Hopkins and this doctor had a

550
00:32:26,108 --> 00:32:30,000
conversation before hand and he
knew he's in a He writes about

551
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,300
apocalyptic end times and all
that.

552
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:35,200
But Hawkins said, this is the
guy you're dealing with, this is

553
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,700
what he does.
This is his story and now the

554
00:32:37,700 --> 00:32:41,600
doctor is showing him all this
apocalyptic and Time stuff,

555
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,400
because this is what the guy
does, why not?

556
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:50,000
Just to play Devil's Advocate
there on the hypnotherapy thing

557
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,900
now.
But Hopkins was a fairly

558
00:32:53,900 --> 00:32:57,400
reputable person.
He was a prominent figure in

559
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,800
Alien Abduction phenomena and he
did a lot of UFO research, but

560
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,600
he was also a an artist too, he
was quite known.

561
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:12,000
I know that when I originally
looked up Budd Hopkins, just

562
00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:15,800
kind of, you know, try I know
who this man was that was part

563
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,500
of this story.
This guy's got an entire I do.

564
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:19,800
This is how, you know, you're
famous.

565
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,800
He's got an entire Wikipedia
page.

566
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:26,500
I mean like a lot, it was a big
page to wasn't just like to

567
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:29,000
perform things.
I'm looking at it right now, are

568
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,300
you?
Yeah, they decided to Google the

569
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:34,600
guy.
I mean he's you know he has a

570
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,800
lot a lot going on here.
He was reputable person in the

571
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,500
40 and studies you know he was
up.

572
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,400
There is definitely somebody
That a lot of people trusted.

573
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:51,700
So, I mean, I don't know, I'm
just, like, I do, I'm leaning.

574
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,400
I want to give the guy the
benefit of the doubt, right?

575
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,200
And just assume that what he
thinks happened to him happened

576
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,000
to him, right?
That's kind of how I play the

577
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,900
game.
So let's just assume that the

578
00:34:01,900 --> 00:34:04,800
hypnotherapy thing is legit and
whatever and what the

579
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,199
information being pulled out, as
far as he is concerned, Whitley

580
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,600
is concerned, is is legit even
still?

581
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,699
The information could be some
implanted.

582
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:15,699
In by some entity in another
dimension.

583
00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:19,000
So like, I guess you could use
that argument for literally

584
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,699
anything, but anything, and
that's that's what we do a good

585
00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:25,000
job at, you know, honestly in
the show, there's going to be

586
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,100
someone who doesn't believe it,
who thinks it's a complete

587
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,800
bullshit.
Some ways we like, yeah, you

588
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,000
know, there's probably a pretty
good chance and then somebody

589
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,699
says, I need a little bit more
information.

590
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:36,100
That's what we do kid.
You seem like you had something

591
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:41,500
to say, No, I was looking at the
guys artwork, is it good?

592
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:46,300
It's abstract artwork, he took a
bunch of circles made triangles

593
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:48,600
out of them, and made them all
different colors and then threw

594
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,900
it all together.
It's not bad, but it's not my

595
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:53,800
kind of artwork.
So, would you see?

596
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,800
Jake million-dollar art right
there?

597
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Yeah.
Yes, yeah, yes.

598
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:03,700
Yes or napkins, whatever.
Let's move on you guys, ready?

599
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,900
All right, all right, concluding
the Session during this very

600
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:12,100
brief stint under hypnosis
Whitley witnessed images.

601
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,200
Much slower in clear as
commanded by dr.

602
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,200
Klein, during his conduction of
the practice, the Earth was

603
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,700
being viewed from a point in
space, and the red ball that was

604
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:26,200
once blue was burning in a ball
of fire with sporadic puffs of

605
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,800
smoke seeming to detonate
randomly all over.

606
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,800
He couldn't see the ground, but
Whitley knew that all of mankind

607
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,700
was down there one by one losing
their lives to The Inferno.

608
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,600
Next image, his son was small
and unable to move, but looking

609
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,100
directly at with you, with
black, white, Le sighs feelings

610
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:48,100
of fear for his child's life
flooded his emotions.

611
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:52,800
Then there was the third one,
one that depicted his father

612
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,700
laying on the couch from his
childhood.

613
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:57,800
His father's chin pointed up
towards the ceiling with his

614
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,200
head tilted, back, and his
father's body convulsing in the

615
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,300
throes of death.
With these mom, sat watching as

616
00:36:04,300 --> 00:36:08,000
her husband's life was strangled
away the Seen flooding with me

617
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,500
with all the emotions ranging
from Rage confusion and sadness,

618
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:17,000
this was a much different scene
than what his mother told him as

619
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,800
a child when she described how
his father had passed away

620
00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:23,400
before Whitley could act within
the depths of his seed gnosis,

621
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:27,600
he was thrust it out of his mind
and backed to dr.

622
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,100
Klein's office.
All right, guys.

623
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:34,700
So we've seen a little bit more
on all three, of the images.

624
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:37,100
Now, you got anything else to
add?

625
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,000
Pretty other than has this guy
know that we're on a globe in

626
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:50,100
space, created that way to even
begin with that's the thing,

627
00:36:50,100 --> 00:36:51,400
right?
If it turns out that the Earth

628
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,200
is flat, we know this guys
fucking lie, right?

629
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,900
Could be Kirby?
That's the one thing.

630
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,500
The one thing that could blow
his entire story apart.

631
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:03,200
He'd listen, all I'm saying is
anybody who's listening who is a

632
00:37:03,207 --> 00:37:05,400
flat earther, they just heard
that and they were like, op

633
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,400
know, this guy's full of shit
bullshit.

634
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:10,300
Yep, it's all of them right
there.

635
00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:20,300
Yeah, it has to be in order for
someone to have credibility in

636
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:24,800
like Ewing things of the future.
Those things have to take place

637
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,000
or what he's saying and what
he's describing has to take

638
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,200
place, it can't be a point of it
being like Oh there were people

639
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:34,900
know.
It have to be like the entire

640
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:38,900
thing in order to be credible.
So either either he, I don't

641
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:42,700
know yet at this point, whether
he gives weight to these Visions

642
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:45,200
because it could be what Jeff
said, you could be just a

643
00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:49,900
demonic Force, you know, just
jacking up his mind and stuff,

644
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:53,300
you know.
It could be I don't know, it

645
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:57,700
could be his own subconscious
because of how how much time he

646
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:01,200
spent already.
Manufacturing stories that

647
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,100
contain this sort of imagery and
stuff could be that.

648
00:38:06,700 --> 00:38:09,000
But yeah, I don't know.
We'll have to listen further to

649
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,000
hear if he actually puts weight
in this and thinks that he had a

650
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,900
like a vision of the future.
Because yeah I mean just like

651
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:20,300
what you guys are joking about
the ends up, the World is Flat,

652
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:23,900
then you know, they're his flat.
Then we know that, you know,

653
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:26,400
he's absolutely full of crap, it
wasn't a vision.

654
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,800
At least it wasn't a true vision
of the future.

655
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,400
It was just something going on
his own head.

656
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:38,100
So now I will say from my own
point of view and I don't really

657
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,900
have anything to really back it
up.

658
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:46,000
I was thinking something along
the lines of just kind of give

659
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,400
you a peek under what my My
theory is our here.

660
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,900
I think that the guy went
through something and I think

661
00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:56,800
that the guy may have been
visited by an entity, whether it

662
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:02,000
be an alien from another place
and space or multi

663
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:06,500
interdimensional beings such as
trickster, or gin or a demonic

664
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,300
entity.
I think you got visited by

665
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:11,400
something, and I don't know,
necessarily at the pictures

666
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,600
where we're images of the
future.

667
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:19,600
But I do think that, you know,
if if I'm gonna take His word

668
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,300
for it and say that this stuff
did happen that this was

669
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,400
something that was placed in, it
was my own scared the shit out

670
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,300
of them.
And it wasn't necessarily a view

671
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:32,700
of the future is more of a view
of his of his personal fears.

672
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,200
That's kind of what my belief
is.

673
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,800
It's kind of why I highlighted
it here.

674
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:41,000
Hey, here's my idea.
What you got, what if he was

675
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:47,200
seeing was somewhat related to
the supervolcano?

676
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,100
And Yellowstone.
That's Yellowstone, right?

677
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,700
What if that's what he saw?
I mean why a wild kind of out

678
00:39:58,700 --> 00:40:04,000
there Theory but that's where my
head went possibly.

679
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,000
But I mean, if you look at the
other two right?

680
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,100
I don't remember if I really get
into it, I don't think I do.

681
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,600
I think I left this part out
because I mean, there's so much

682
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,900
of a person's book that I can
try to rewrite without stealing

683
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:22,600
the entire book, right?
So there's some stuff that I've

684
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,100
deleted.
But he did kind of go into how

685
00:40:25,100 --> 00:40:27,600
his mother described his
father's death.

686
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,500
Now, his mother described his
father's death as just the Man

687
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:34,400
simply passing away peacefully
on the couch you know they were

688
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,200
near each other and you know she
just looked over and he was

689
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,100
dead, he's dead.
I'll seem like a very, very

690
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:44,600
peaceful death and that's what
she passed down to everybody

691
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:51,000
including Whitley himself so
which we do get into just a tiny

692
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,200
tiny bit here.
I think in the very next a

693
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,400
paragraph a little bit about the
history between Whitley and this

694
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,200
father and why that may have
been the significant image that

695
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,800
was pushed into his head.
Hmm.

696
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:04,600
All right, you guys ready to
roll?

697
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:14,200
All right, let's do it.
A chat after post hypnosis the

698
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,100
men mostly discussed two things.
The new images of his father's

699
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,600
death and the bang between the
two witnessing.

700
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,100
His father's death was thought
to have had been a tie to

701
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,900
Whitley's relationship with his
father.

702
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:28,000
See, this is what I'm talking
about.

703
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,800
Whitley was young, when his dad
had died at the time, he had his

704
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,700
own life and never really gave
his father of the time of day.

705
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,400
Something, he regretted more and
more the older he got along with

706
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,000
the time.
That building a relationship

707
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,200
with his own son.
They believed it was a

708
00:41:43,207 --> 00:41:46,100
projection of what least guilt
of never being there for his

709
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:49,100
dad.
As for the bang.

710
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,400
But Hopkins interviewed with
these wife Ann and therefore a

711
00:41:52,408 --> 00:41:55,400
nanny days, prior to the session
and dr.

712
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,700
Klein's office combined with
Whitley's new description.

713
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,600
The men believe the being
created a literal streak of

714
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,400
lightning in front of his face
and the bang was reporter from

715
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,300
the Thunder.
But without the typical Echo and

716
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:13,200
rolling common with under the
session that took place on

717
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,400
March, 1st 1986 came to its
conclusion after This at this

718
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,400
attempt and the men all agreed
to come back and try again, in

719
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,600
four days.
All right guys.

720
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,000
So does that clarify?
Anything does that change

721
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,400
anything?
My opinions are the same.

722
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,000
I get it.
Totally understand.

723
00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:37,800
But it is an interesting story
and if it actually happened to

724
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,100
him I mean like I wouldn't want
it to happen to me.

725
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,000
Yeah, right.
I agree.

726
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,500
Totally.
I, you know, I don't know for

727
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:52,200
sure, but I'd feel like I
wouldn't want a big gray pine

728
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,700
cone shoved at my butt.
I know, right, just jammed up in

729
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:56,500
there.
You know.

730
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,100
What's sad is that in this
episode?

731
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:01,900
Okay, so for those that are
waiting for this you can just

732
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:03,700
turn it off.
Now we don't talk about that

733
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:06,000
anymore, really?
Yeah.

734
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,500
But we can still make jokes
about it.

735
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,600
Oh yeah, absolutely.
And there's a, there's a better

736
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,000
one that might be coming up
soon.

737
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:22,100
Okay, telephone pole and he
tasted every inch of the sexual

738
00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:28,300
comment re everybody bear with
us while we take this quick

739
00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:33,800
break.
Continues now.

740
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,200
We're good.
All right.

741
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,900
You guys ready?
Let's dive into the second

742
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:45,100
session in which he covers.
The second time that this stuff

743
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,300
has happened to her one more
time.

744
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,300
The following is a summary of
the entire transcript from the

745
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:54,700
second session of hypnotherapy
with dr.

746
00:43:54,700 --> 00:43:58,300
Klein, the session took place on
March 5th, 1986.

747
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,000
In this time, the goal was to
uncover forgotten information

748
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,800
surrounding.
At least second encounter from

749
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,800
the night of December 26, 1985
and mr.

750
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,700
Budd Hopkins was present to
record in witness the session as

751
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:14,600
they did before, dr.
Klein began by asking with the,

752
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,300
about dinner, on December 26th,
the family was enjoying cold

753
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:22,400
Goose leftovers from their
Christmas dinner the night prior

754
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:24,500
soon.
They were fast-forwarding to

755
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:28,500
Whitley waking up to a being
walking through his doorway.

756
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:33,300
As whatever it was entering his
room, a large group of other

757
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:38,000
smaller ones filed in behind it.
They were fast, all of them move

758
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,300
continually the entire time with
Lee describe.

759
00:44:41,300 --> 00:44:45,300
The first one is wearing a large
Blue card on its chest and

760
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:48,500
sporting a round hat with the
describe.

761
00:44:48,500 --> 00:44:52,600
The first out, I just just read
that Whitley also describe it as

762
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,700
wearing a mask with eyeholes and
small round and a small round

763
00:44:56,700 --> 00:44:59,500
hole for the mouth.
This one comes to It'll right

764
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:03,400
next to the bed, the others
moving very quickly were very

765
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,900
similar to the first but we're
all wearing blue coveralls and

766
00:45:06,900 --> 00:45:11,700
completely bald.
Yes guys, the minions Whitley

767
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:15,400
stands up and immediately strips
off all of his clothes against

768
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,900
his will.
During this time, he's scared to

769
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:22,100
death as he begins to walk away
from his bed out of his room

770
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,800
through his living room, out of
his front door and onto the

771
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,900
front porch, where, what he
described as a quote Black Iron

772
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:35,200
cot was waiting while Whitley
was moving from his bed to his

773
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,800
porch.
He was escorted by the beings,

774
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,200
which seemed to be moving him by
means of something.

775
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,800
Unseen, he describes these
beings as quote little bitty

776
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,200
people, as we approach the cot
like object.

777
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,400
He grew even more scared and
concerned but he could not stop

778
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,600
himself.
He was not in control of his own

779
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,900
body.
At this point, he laid down on

780
00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:58,800
the contraption and it began to
roll off the porch.

781
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:00,900
Or what he thought was rolling
at least.

782
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:05,200
And soon after his concern
regarding the reality of this

783
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:09,300
event faded away as began to
float higher into the air with

784
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:11,800
Lee believe that he must be
sleeping at this point.

785
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:15,400
Before I knew it, he was in a
clearing in the woods in the

786
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,200
area completely void of snow,
this made him think that was

787
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,000
actually very far away.
From the cabin, possibly in a

788
00:46:22,008 --> 00:46:24,100
different state.
As a ton of snow fell the night

789
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:28,000
prior Whitley focused as one of
the beings began to try to talk

790
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,100
to him but he Could not hear
what it was trying to say, but

791
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:34,900
his body reacted, as if it did,
hear the words perfectly, and it

792
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:38,800
did not like, but the thing had
to say to his anxiety, grew is

793
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,000
heartbeat.
Fastened and is breathing

794
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,100
quickened, then Whitley yelled.
I'm awake.

795
00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:49,400
That's it for that paragraph.
What do you guys think?

796
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,900
Weird.
Do you guys not get the, the

797
00:46:56,900 --> 00:47:00,000
minions connection I did.
But I'm like, I wonder if

798
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,700
someone someone read the book
and they were like, I could make

799
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:07,000
a movie like that, that was that
was what went through my head.

800
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:10,300
You know what's funny is that,
that is a theory that is a

801
00:47:10,300 --> 00:47:14,500
theory that people have pushed
around about the minions was

802
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:21,000
that the minions actually were
created as part, or in part of

803
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,600
these particular Critters here
in the cleaning book.

804
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:29,900
No, I don't.
I don't know what the actual

805
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,900
origins of those things, but it
is, it is kind of funny to kind

806
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:34,600
of see the parallels between the
two.

807
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,900
Did you know they have their own
language now?

808
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,200
Yes minionese no.
It's a thing.

809
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,300
Never seen it.
Yeah, you never seen just

810
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:49,200
Despicable Me.
Nope.

811
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:51,800
Thought Borg never seen Star
Trek.

812
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,000
So whatever.
I don't have kids or anything.

813
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,400
I'm a reason to watch, like
animated shows, I'm not 12, you

814
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:02,100
know, yes, I mean I'm pretty
sure Despicable Me was far

815
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:06,100
enough back that It wasn't like
we were.

816
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,200
I'm in my 30s bro.
Bro.

817
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,900
So gloomy didn't come out until
my kids were born.

818
00:48:11,300 --> 00:48:13,800
Yeah that's not.
I mean you want to talk to

819
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,500
animated lost a decade old now?
Yeah, I was watching like Dragon

820
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:22,800
Ball Z back in the day.
Yeah, my oldest is almost 12.

821
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,900
So, I'm pretty sure the first
Despicable Me came out when she

822
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:30,600
was a baby.
Could be wrong, Jake.

823
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,000
You're just baby man.
No, not literally Bitty Baby

824
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,600
Jake's just sitting there
watching cartoons, putting stuff

825
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:45,100
in his butt.
Mmm gray, gray, Legos in the

826
00:48:45,107 --> 00:48:50,100
butt.
All right, you guys ready to

827
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:51,300
move?
Yeah.

828
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,700
Yeah.
You guys are talking a bunch of

829
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:53,500
that.
I don't like it.

830
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,500
All right.
Chosen One dr.

831
00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:59,700
Klein recognized.
This is Whitley slipping out of

832
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:02,400
his hypnosis and quickly
redirected him to focus.

833
00:49:02,500 --> 00:49:05,300
Kissing on getting back to the
state of rest and you did it in

834
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,700
order to continue.
It worked this time.

835
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,100
He was able to recognize that
they were in a large bunker,

836
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:15,500
like structure in the woods.
He also realized that one of the

837
00:49:15,500 --> 00:49:19,100
beings was attempting to talk to
him and he and he was still

838
00:49:19,100 --> 00:49:22,400
attached to the cop like
contraption that he laid down on

839
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,100
only now, he was sitting up in,
whatever it was.

840
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:28,900
It was conformed to the angles
that he was sitting in, even

841
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:32,300
when moving his limbs before he
knew it, he was shooting.

842
00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:35,100
Towards the Sky.
He watched, as he crossed the

843
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:38,800
threshold outlined by the tops
of trees his feet, traveled

844
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,400
further, and further away from
the canopy of the woods below

845
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,600
him.
The next thing he knows he's in

846
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,600
a room and no longer held
prisoner by The Car Armor.

847
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:50,000
He describes the room is dirty.
Have you a faint odor?

848
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Of cheese, there was another
being in the room with them, but

849
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,700
this one was different from all
the other ones who was

850
00:49:56,700 --> 00:50:00,400
introduced to before it was a
difficult creature described.

851
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,100
As a shared, almost nothing with
Owens and the characteristics of

852
00:50:04,100 --> 00:50:08,000
the things physique was even
remotely from wasn't even

853
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,000
remotely familiar.
As Whitley was thinking about

854
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:14,900
how he had had a feeling that
this creature was on the older

855
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:19,200
side, it replied to him without
him, actually asking the

856
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,400
question.
Yes, I am old and look directly

857
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,300
at Whitley from inches in front
of him.

858
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:29,000
As his head, unwillingly moved
from side to side, as if, under

859
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,100
control of some unseen Force,
the being seen To be studying

860
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:37,700
Whitley as she told him in a
deep low voice that there was

861
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:41,000
going to be an operation
performed, which immediately

862
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,300
sent him into a screaming, fit
for help, his fear was

863
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:46,800
overwhelming.
But through all of the sound he

864
00:50:46,808 --> 00:50:50,900
was making its voice asked.
Clearly how can we help you to

865
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:53,500
stop screaming in which really
are applied?

866
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,800
You can let me smell you, as she
leaned in and the aroma of

867
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,500
cardboard and cinnamon filled
his olfactory receptors, tiny

868
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:04,900
footsteps are Surrounded,
Whitley's backside and a bang,

869
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,600
whatever they had to do, they
did it in a split second to the

870
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,300
back of his head, his head and
the whole time.

871
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,600
The small leathery being stared
into Whitley's eyes.

872
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,900
Trapping is attention to allow
the Deeds of others to be

873
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:22,800
fulfilled after the seconds
passed, and which he was trapped

874
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,800
in her gaze.
She lifted something from below.

875
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,900
The line of sight is that your
penis?

876
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,900
He has shockingly.
I thought you were a woman.

877
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,100
He began to feel as if he wanted
the throw up as whatever it

878
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:40,300
actually was began to punch him,
repeatedly in different parts of

879
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:44,200
his midsection the beings from
behind him, poked his lips in an

880
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,900
attempt to force, open his mouth
with their tiny hands and what

881
00:51:47,900 --> 00:51:51,100
he could only describe his
fingers, the only thing that

882
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:54,400
made sense to him, was that,
whatever that penis thing was,

883
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:57,500
is what they were trying to
shove in his mouth.

884
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:01,900
So there was no way he was going
to willingly, let that happen.

885
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,100
That's seemingly out of nowhere.
The being in, which he thought

886
00:52:07,100 --> 00:52:09,800
was a female said, in its deep
voice.

887
00:52:10,300 --> 00:52:17,900
You are chosen one, I knew you
weren't gonna hold it.

888
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,400
This kid, can we speak now?
Yeah, go ahead and send now this

889
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,200
guy, you know, I was giving him
the benefit of the doubt, you

890
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,100
know?
So I was tracking, I was like,

891
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:34,900
okay, you know, and still could
be Could be the gin.

892
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,600
I mean, dude, you're talking
about biggest fears, bro.

893
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:41,900
Giggles casually dick.
We're just guy from again, New

894
00:52:41,900 --> 00:52:45,500
York City.
Well, he grew up in Texas, grew

895
00:52:45,500 --> 00:52:47,300
up in Texas.
It's the math.

896
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:52,700
I'm sorry.
Being the chosen one is wrong,

897
00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:53,700
then.
I don't want anyway.

898
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,900
Oh man.
Wow, yeah, I was dying.

899
00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:08,200
So what's funny right?
Is that when I'm reading it I

900
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,200
don't have your guys's face up.
I have the whole screen showing

901
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:14,300
my notes right?
And I'm just sitting there while

902
00:53:14,300 --> 00:53:19,300
I'm reading a word for word.
I'm like Jake's gonna go and I

903
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:24,000
was like he's got to be on mute,
he's gotta be a mute point where

904
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,200
it's like it wanted to shove it
in his mouth.

905
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,800
See on video, I'm over here like
covering my face and just

906
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:35,900
starting it just crack.
I mean if you're projecting

907
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:39,100
fears, man, that's pretty good
one.

908
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:43,100
It's like I want to rip on it so
hard but I can't help but think

909
00:53:43,100 --> 00:53:50,200
that something awful happened to
him growing up that he is

910
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,900
projecting through the things
that he writes about.

911
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:55,000
Now, I know you said in the
first one that this was the

912
00:53:55,008 --> 00:53:59,500
first time he wrote about aliens
but you talked about right about

913
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,000
was it.
He had written about all kinds

914
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,800
of other things.
Yeah, but this is like this is

915
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:11,200
like traumatic memories wrapped
around fictional stuff being

916
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,500
projected out because of
hypnotherapy.

917
00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:17,300
Yeah, like this is rough.
That's where I was starting to

918
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:18,700
go with.
That's where my head was

919
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:21,500
starting to go with this.
Is this guy is traumatized, he

920
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:27,300
is severely fucking traumatized
by something and he has just

921
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:30,800
pushed it back into the corners
of his mind that he can't.

922
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,100
He can't actually access because
so far back in the in his

923
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:39,900
subconscious, now it happens.
It's a thing, it's terrifying.

924
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:43,300
And that's what I'm seeing.
Now, is a traumatized man who

925
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:48,000
has no idea what he went through
and this is how he's coping with

926
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,400
it.
Like maybe and it maybe there

927
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,900
were some parts to it.
He's talking about grey, aliens

928
00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:57,000
may be, it was like you know the
guy had a gray hood on and

929
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,100
sunglasses.
Hmm and he's just latching onto

930
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:03,400
that.
Being like owes grey aliens or

931
00:55:03,408 --> 00:55:06,800
something like that.
Like it's it's funny.

932
00:55:07,300 --> 00:55:12,400
Him describing the sir stuff.
But I don't know, I can't help

933
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,300
but think that there was
something pretty awful that

934
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:18,000
happened to him at some point in
his brain, just kicked it back

935
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,900
was like, nope, not going to
think about that and now it's

936
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:25,300
being pulled out and it's coming
out in, you know, wild forms do

937
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:29,200
too, you know.
I don't know, just the

938
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:36,200
subconscious trying to protect
him or whatever, just like his

939
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:40,400
own thoughts and like, you know,
because writers that the deal

940
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,400
with fantasy and stuff, they're
pretty weird.

941
00:55:42,500 --> 00:55:46,200
You know, that you gotta really
have a hardcore imagination for

942
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,500
that sort of stuff.
Yes.

943
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,700
So maybe it just, it's part of
that.

944
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,100
This is why I want the sons
story.

945
00:55:55,900 --> 00:56:01,900
Yeah, maybe a son story would
really help solidify, all of

946
00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:05,700
this and exactly tell it, like,
it would pretty much exactly

947
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:09,300
tell us K is this guy's making
shit up because he's traumatized

948
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:12,500
versus they all actually
experience something.

949
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:14,600
He could still be making stuff
up because it's because he's

950
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,600
traumatized, but if the sun
could come back and actually,

951
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:23,100
Confirm something.
It would help with this help.

952
00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:28,300
This story so much.
Yep, I don't disagree.

953
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,400
If he comes up and says the grey
aliens tried to get me to.

954
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,700
Then it's like, well, all right.
Right.

955
00:56:34,700 --> 00:56:38,000
Yep, came at me with her big
gray weiners.

956
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:45,500
There's just so many of these
man, you know, and I really do

957
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,400
the more I get into stuff.
Dude, I just really think that a

958
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,400
lot of this shit is entities,
man.

959
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:53,400
And it's not just for this
stuff, but there's just so many

960
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,500
things dude, that if you really
think about like that concept,

961
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:58,600
entities, have an agenda that we
have no idea what it is.

962
00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:01,900
There's no reason to think that
they're not just giving people

963
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:04,300
ideas for shit, right?
I even talked about it on like a

964
00:57:04,308 --> 00:57:06,600
physical level, right?
We're like they will still

965
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,200
implant the ideas of like
microchips.

966
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:12,000
Push it into people's minds, so
that they'll go and actually

967
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,100
invent these things.
And then next thing, you know,

968
00:57:14,100 --> 00:57:16,300
we're all being controlled by
fucking devices, right?

969
00:57:16,300 --> 00:57:23,800
So it's Yeah, well that whole
repressed you know, events that

970
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,700
could possibly happen where it
was in the sexual inner.

971
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,600
You know that's something I
haven't really Dove down.

972
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:38,000
Now that's interesting that is a
very interesting Direction point

973
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,300
of view.
To look at this I don't know.

974
00:57:41,300 --> 00:57:47,100
I'm still I'm still on the I'm
leaning towards that this guy

975
00:57:47,100 --> 00:57:56,400
really had some kind of meeting
or visit from something, some

976
00:57:56,500 --> 00:58:01,300
being, whether it be a trickster
alien or or whatnot, Bigfoot,

977
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:07,900
maybe I had to put it in there,
so I don't know.

978
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:09,300
I'm gonna let you guys take
that.

979
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:11,800
That point of view, I'll
continue over on this side,

980
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,800
maybe he's is interesting, maybe
he's He's a, you know, a really

981
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,100
good liar and an incredible
narcissist out of all the people

982
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:23,000
on earth.
That could be, you know,

983
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,000
molested by aliens.
Why is he the chosen one?

984
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:32,400
Well, who's to say that 90% of
the population hasn't been Has

985
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,600
has 90 has most of the
population been put under

986
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,600
hypnotherapy.
They're not put that on me.

987
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,800
Hey man, I'm just saying, you
know, I don't know, it sounds

988
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,100
like you might need a regular
therapist more than a

989
00:58:45,107 --> 00:58:47,300
hypnotherapist but that's just
my opinion.

990
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:50,800
Well, maybe maybe you're right,
maybe you're right, but maybe

991
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,000
Budd Hopkins has some work done
maybe but Hopkins did a report

992
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,400
on this too that'd be somebody
that I might look into two and

993
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,000
see where his point of view is
because apparently Budd Hopkins.

994
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:06,200
Also, His wife and his son and
Amy but not jacquez.

995
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:10,100
Apparently, Jacques wasn't able
to really Jacques her Jack or

996
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:12,100
whatever.
For his name is I call.

997
00:59:12,100 --> 00:59:13,800
Jacques was because that's how
it's spelled.

998
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:19,800
So I don't know.
We'll see.

999
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:21,800
That is definitely another
Avenue.

1000
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,100
I'll go down.
Once I'm done with this book and

1001
00:59:24,100 --> 00:59:27,300
I'm done with Ed Commerce book.
So I'm going to stay away from

1002
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:30,300
hypnotherapist these days
because they try to convince me

1003
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:33,000
that I'm like a dog trapped.
In a man's body or something.

1004
00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:35,600
Dude, I'll go with you.
I'll watch and make sure

1005
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,500
nothing.
Yeah.

1006
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,700
And then you'll be like I love
the Giants.

1007
00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:41,500
The Giants are the best and I'm
gonna win.

1008
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:43,900
Let's watch the all the Super
Bowl.

1009
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,100
Let's watch him score.
That home run.

1010
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,800
I've never felt more alive when
I watch the Giants.

1011
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,800
No, you have to move to
Wisconsin.

1012
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,700
It's the only way make him feel
like he's a walrus.

1013
01:00:01,700 --> 01:00:09,500
Like that movie task every time
he sees a banana, he just starts

1014
01:00:09,500 --> 01:00:13,700
doing, cartwheels and yelling
the Star-Spangled Banner every

1015
01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:17,200
time.
Every grocery store or not.

1016
01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:20,400
All right, you guys ready?
Yeah.

1017
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:21,600
Yeah.
Alright.

1018
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,200
Next paragraphs called.
Wow, that's a strange question.

1019
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:30,700
Quote, you are our chosen one
with these reply to this was

1020
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:32,500
that it was Alice, it's
bullshit.

1021
01:00:32,500 --> 01:00:35,300
And I want to go home and which
you reply is, what if we don't

1022
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:38,800
want you go home?
The conversation took a hard

1023
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,100
left turn when the being asked
him are you as hard as you can

1024
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:46,100
get?
Can you get any harder before

1025
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:51,100
Whitley was able to provide this
provided shock reply to his

1026
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,600
completely?
Asinine question.

1027
01:00:53,900 --> 01:00:57,200
She cuts his finger open with a
small incision with intense

1028
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,000
speed, and he is instantly back
in his cabin, butt-naked and

1029
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,300
middle of his living room.
He heads the bathroom release

1030
01:01:04,300 --> 01:01:07,200
himself brushes.
His teeth puts his pajamas back

1031
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,400
on, lays down next to his wife.
He touches her back in the

1032
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,200
warmth radiating offer.
Fresh reassures.

1033
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:15,400
That he is really back.
All right.

1034
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,200
That was a short one.
What do you guys think?

1035
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:27,300
There is no Whitley only Zuul.
He's the keymaster, I don't get

1036
01:01:27,300 --> 01:01:30,500
it for what?
Oh goodness.

1037
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:30,900
Smack.
You.

1038
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:32,600
Right in the teeth.
Shame on you.

1039
01:01:38,900 --> 01:01:46,200
That's what we this is hard.
As you can get.

1040
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:52,600
He's, she said with her his thin
lips and Hollow black eyes.

1041
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,600
I'm going to caress me with his
his/hers fingers, boy, like

1042
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:08,100
cinnamon and cardboard.
It's gotta be All right, we're

1043
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:09,700
already over now.
Let's continue guys.

1044
01:02:09,700 --> 01:02:13,400
Ready?
Yeah, we got one this last

1045
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,000
paragraph.
This is it.

1046
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:16,300
This is.
This is the end of the show.

1047
01:02:16,300 --> 01:02:18,000
You guys ready?
Oh, my goodness.

1048
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,000
Let's go before.
He falls asleep.

1049
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,200
Next to his wife while still
under hypnosis dr.

1050
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,600
Klein Cuts, in and ask what?
Whitley to describe the being

1051
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:31,400
they continually referred to in
the feminine Whitley begins.

1052
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:35,500
Describing every detail he
conjure up about the being She's

1053
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:38,100
bold has a very large head
compared to the body.

1054
01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:41,400
The eyes are bulging out from
the face and her skin is

1055
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,700
yellowish brown with lipless
flaps surrounding her mouth.

1056
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,000
She spoke to me but not with her
mouth.

1057
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,600
I never saw its lips move.
The words were just there.

1058
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:53,200
And she reminded me of a bug,
but not a bug.

1059
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:58,100
Just plug like Whitley then went
on to explain that he was unsure

1060
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,200
if it was actually a woman or
not.

1061
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,500
Dr. Klein then redirects the
conversation to her question

1062
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:06,600
about him being hard.
And Willie confirms that it was

1063
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,100
in reference to his penis, which
on excitingly a minute hung at

1064
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:13,100
half-mast.
As she questioned him.

1065
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:17,300
He went on to explain that.
He was unaware, he was in that

1066
01:03:17,300 --> 01:03:20,400
state until she asked about it
and there was no getting harder

1067
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,800
with her being there.
Dr. Klein went on to redirect

1068
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,900
the Reclamation of events, yet
again, this time asking why he

1069
01:03:27,900 --> 01:03:32,100
said it was bullshit that he was
chosen one Whitley replied

1070
01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:34,700
because they have a ton of them
trust me.

1071
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:37,900
Seen them.
I've seen countless other people

1072
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:42,700
when asked dr.
Klein when I was 12 he went on

1073
01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:45,800
to explain that once he had
actually sat up from the bed

1074
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,500
that they normally put him on
and he saw hundreds of other

1075
01:03:49,500 --> 01:03:52,500
people lying flat on their backs
asleep and other beds.

1076
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,200
He explained that one of the
beings told him that it was time

1077
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,300
for him to go home, Whitley
ignored, it and went on to ask

1078
01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:04,600
it quote who are all of these
people in which he replied.

1079
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,900
They are soldiers.
We check them then bring them

1080
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:12,400
back home with he told dr.
Klein that when he looked around

1081
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,900
he was shocked to notice.
Two other faces that he

1082
01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:19,000
recognized instantly his sisters
and his father's.

1083
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:23,100
His father was scared this.
He could tell his sister was

1084
01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:26,700
sleeping, Soldier is in and out
of uniform were all around him

1085
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,000
then faster than he could
realize they were all on a

1086
01:04:30,008 --> 01:04:33,700
train, a train that he
recognizes trained that he his

1087
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:36,100
father and his sister.
Took to Chicago.

1088
01:04:36,100 --> 01:04:40,900
Once he was young from there,
then home in Texas Whitley

1089
01:04:40,900 --> 01:04:44,600
became panicked as his hypnosis,
bounced him back and forth

1090
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,800
between the train and the
strange room with people lying

1091
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,800
on beds all around him.
It became too much for him, and

1092
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,400
he was woken for the session
scared of what they all could

1093
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,700
possibly mean with the ask the
doctor and Bud.

1094
01:04:57,700 --> 01:05:01,200
If he could be done for the day,
they all agreed that this was

1095
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:06,000
more than enough for now.
Alright guys, that's all I have

1096
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,900
for today.
What do you guys think?

1097
01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:10,100
Yes, come on.
Jacob.

1098
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:14,900
I'm gonna, I'm gonna have to put
a, what is it?

1099
01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:18,700
Like, a disclaimer in the front
of this, it says, hey, we talked

1100
01:05:18,700 --> 01:05:23,300
about wieners a lot, so just,
you know, hard wieners floppy.

1101
01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:26,200
Wieners wieners in general, a
lot of Windows in this one.

1102
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:29,300
So yeah, yeah.
You just just put a little

1103
01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:31,900
sexual content disclaimer on the
front of it.

1104
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,000
It's gonna be a fucking really
popular episode.

1105
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:41,400
I'll tell you what, trigger
warning, winners everywhere, and

1106
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,900
your ears, and your eyes flaps
for mouths and lots of winners.

1107
01:05:47,700 --> 01:05:52,800
What is, what is a lipless flat
or toothless flap for lips above

1108
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,200
her lips, a little wet?
So, like, instead of having,

1109
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,300
like the red part of your lips,
I would assume it just cut off

1110
01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:00,400
right there.
I don't know.

1111
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:02,800
That's what I'm thinking.
There's no idea.

1112
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,100
Yeah, no idea, toothless, flap.
Do we know anything without

1113
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:09,400
lips.
We gotta hit up concern.

1114
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,000
Say we talk about Flaps in this
episode are not cancer.

1115
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:17,100
Sorry yeah we're here in this
episode.

1116
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:28,300
No tell them both so Okay, so we
kind of just kind of dissect

1117
01:06:28,300 --> 01:06:33,400
that last bit a little bit to
make it clear because I as

1118
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:35,900
already I guess I did a pretty
bad job at writing it.

1119
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:46,100
Apparently, he believes that
this are that he's on covered

1120
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:48,400
that.
This has been happening to him,

1121
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:53,300
not just in the year prior to
this but since he was 12 years

1122
01:06:53,300 --> 01:07:00,400
old, and And possibly, his first
actual abduction was on a train

1123
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,200
ride and overnight train ride
from his town in Texas to

1124
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,800
Chicago Illinois and it was done
while he was in motion.

1125
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:13,200
I'm training with his dad and
his sister.

1126
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:18,300
So they all everybody apparently
got abducted on that train that

1127
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:21,600
night.
It's the whole idea of them

1128
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,600
being soldiers.
Jeff.

1129
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:27,600
I did not mean to click the
hands up button.

1130
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,400
Do you have talk now?
Yes.

1131
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,200
What's your know I was unmuting
anyways to talk.

1132
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:37,700
But is there anybody else from
the train that Came out and was

1133
01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:41,800
like, dude, I don't know yet,
we'll get a whole Train full of

1134
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,400
people.
A couple of them should have

1135
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:52,300
remembered wieners.
No, I'm not fear.

1136
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,500
We started off good.
The first half of this.

1137
01:07:54,500 --> 01:07:57,600
I was like, yeah.
And now the second half is on my

1138
01:07:57,600 --> 01:07:58,400
no.
Do know.

1139
01:07:59,500 --> 01:08:02,000
What do you think that?
It's a no, because it's, it's

1140
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,400
made up or to know because it's
a regressed memory or it's a,

1141
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,600
no, because You don't want to be
abducted and get slapped in the

1142
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,700
face by, you know, gray alien
weiner.

1143
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,400
Definitely that.
But, no, I think, I think

1144
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,899
there's a problem with memories,
man.

1145
01:08:16,899 --> 01:08:19,300
I think obviously there's a
problem.

1146
01:08:19,300 --> 01:08:24,000
Big problem with memories, you
know, details get lost so

1147
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,399
quickly with memories.
That's the whole game of like,

1148
01:08:26,399 --> 01:08:30,000
telephone, right?
Like you can't expect your

1149
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,600
memories to be at all, reliable.
And I, that's what I meant in my

1150
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,600
first spiel about this at the
first Junction.

1151
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:40,300
End of conversation here where I
said that you know, how do you

1152
01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:46,600
know what you're pulling up in a
hypnotic regression isn't some

1153
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,399
fucked-up memory like sure.
We can pull the memory out of

1154
01:08:50,407 --> 01:08:53,500
the subconscious that you
weren't able to pull up before.

1155
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:56,200
But is that memory still like a
fucking weird memory?

1156
01:08:56,200 --> 01:09:02,000
That's totally off from reality.
So Maybe you know, I hate to say

1157
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,200
this and I say this kind of
jokingly which is also fucked up

1158
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,300
because this does happen to
people which is messed up but

1159
01:09:06,300 --> 01:09:09,800
maybe he was just the molested
or something at some point and

1160
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,100
he's having his surprise he's
traumatized and he's going to

1161
01:09:14,108 --> 01:09:16,300
hypnotic regression.
He's a Sci-Fi writer and all

1162
01:09:16,308 --> 01:09:20,100
these other things and now he's
like come up with this grandiose

1163
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:24,700
memory that to him, he truly
believes and when when pulled

1164
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:29,800
out of him and hypnosis he says
what he believes you don't I you

1165
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,500
know, No, I don't know that that
is a point of view that I

1166
01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:36,000
haven't really dove into before.
It's interesting.

1167
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,600
It definitely answers.
It feels a lot of holes.

1168
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:43,500
But what if what if the actual
event happened on the train?

1169
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:46,100
What if it happened when he was
12 years old?

1170
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:52,100
Well, I think that having a
memory like that it would have

1171
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:58,800
to be the The.
Like how fond of a memory was

1172
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,400
it?
It was a really good time.

1173
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:02,800
Something that he would really
hold on to, right?

1174
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:06,000
Because there's a lot of things
I've experienced in my 31 years.

1175
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:10,400
Very few of them are like,
really sweet times, right?

1176
01:10:10,700 --> 01:10:13,300
But if I was to try to remember
those ones.

1177
01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:16,700
It'd be a lot easier than a
mundane, you know, day at work

1178
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:21,700
or something like that.
But what's interesting about

1179
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,100
dreams now I don't know if it's
the same thing about, you know,

1180
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,600
pulling up progressed memories
because whether you know,

1181
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:34,100
whether they are, Like this
whole thing right here with this

1182
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:38,100
hypnosis thing has been a search
for regressed memories for more

1183
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:41,400
detail and more specifics,
right.

1184
01:10:41,900 --> 01:10:48,500
So but in your dreams, when you
see a human being and you don't

1185
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,200
on first thought, like if you
wake up and you remember your

1186
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:53,900
dream, you're like, I don't know
who that person is.

1187
01:10:53,900 --> 01:10:56,000
You've seen that person at some
point, right?

1188
01:10:56,100 --> 01:10:58,500
Your brain is not good at making
up faces.

1189
01:10:58,500 --> 01:11:01,000
So, anytime you see someone's
face, it could have been from a

1190
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,200
commercial.
Or something like that, whatever

1191
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:08,700
passing them on the street, your
brain will fill in people's

1192
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:12,200
faces with people you've already
seen before.

1193
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:15,500
It's not going to make it up.
So it would make sense that if

1194
01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:21,400
he was talking about a dream or
an experience, maybe he, you

1195
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:26,000
know, Maybe he has seen all
these people at some point and

1196
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:30,000
like, his brain was filling it
in but and it is somehow tied to

1197
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,700
a memory of his sister and his
and his father going on this

1198
01:11:33,700 --> 01:11:37,900
train and him.
You know, going on this train, I

1199
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:42,000
don't really know how to I don't
really know how to put into

1200
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,100
words, what I'm thinking about
this.

1201
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:49,900
Like, I don't know, like what
Jeff was saying, I don't know

1202
01:11:49,900 --> 01:11:54,200
how much your brain would make
up in a hypnotherapy session.

1203
01:11:54,200 --> 01:12:00,500
I've never done it before, I
don't plan to, but if I was had

1204
01:12:00,500 --> 01:12:05,100
to remember something, how much
of it would be, in fact, the

1205
01:12:05,100 --> 01:12:10,000
truth and how much of it would
be random crap that my brain is

1206
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,900
just this spilling out there,
right?

1207
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:18,800
Or you know, some childhood
memories Like I have this memory

1208
01:12:18,900 --> 01:12:22,900
that is completely ridiculous
that when I was like, 6 years

1209
01:12:22,900 --> 01:12:25,300
old, I burped in a green bubble
came out.

1210
01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:28,700
And it had a piece of rice in it
because I was eating some, like,

1211
01:12:28,700 --> 01:12:34,800
Chinese food or whatever that is
100% fabricated by my brain.

1212
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:38,400
But I can tell you that, I
remember it, like, it was an

1213
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,000
actual event that happened.
And I think the reason why I

1214
01:12:41,008 --> 01:12:43,900
remember that is because I
probably said that as, you know,

1215
01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:48,000
some fantastic thing.
To some people, like friends at

1216
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,100
school over and over and over
again till my brain believes

1217
01:12:51,100 --> 01:12:53,900
that, it actually happened.
Now, I can tell you right now

1218
01:12:53,900 --> 01:12:58,600
that did not happen, but I still
have that memory but it's a

1219
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:02,400
false memory, right?
So I don't know how much of that

1220
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:05,600
would go into this, with the
truth come out and be like, I,

1221
01:13:05,900 --> 01:13:08,000
you know, I talked to
hypnotherapist to say, I totally

1222
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,300
made it up.
Or would that come out somehow?

1223
01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:12,600
And I'd be like, oh, one time
when I was six.

1224
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:15,800
I was eating Chinese food and I
burped a green bubble, and

1225
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:17,400
peace.
Of rice was floating in it

1226
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,100
because I believe that because I
said that story so many times as

1227
01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:24,300
a child, right?
So I don't know where the

1228
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:26,900
connection is to where he could
say.

1229
01:13:27,300 --> 01:13:32,600
You know, maybe he's told this
story so many times and he more

1230
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:36,700
or less believes it that he's
just adding more to it.

1231
01:13:36,700 --> 01:13:39,300
But none of this is actually
true and it's all fabricated but

1232
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:43,000
he's just going to latch on to
an actual memory which was him

1233
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,700
and his dad and his sister
riding on this train for Come to

1234
01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:49,100
Texas or from Texas or whatever,
right?

1235
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,000
I don't know.
It's interesting.

1236
01:13:52,700 --> 01:13:55,400
Really, it's really an
interesting story but it

1237
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:00,800
certainly adds more questions
than answers when it comes to

1238
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:05,000
all of the ridiculous sexual
stuff because I can't think that

1239
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:10,400
that has anything, that that has
anything other to do with or

1240
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:15,100
that it I can't think that it
doesn't have anything to do with

1241
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:18,600
being molested or messed around
with or something like that and

1242
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,100
that was just buried, you know,
right?

1243
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:28,000
And which sucks, you know, we
get it right.

1244
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,200
If that's the truth and that's
awful.

1245
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:32,800
It's horrible.
I think.

1246
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,900
Part 1.
I said this guy was mentally ill

1247
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,300
and a complete.
Wackadoo, I'm gonna I'm gonna

1248
01:14:41,300 --> 01:14:45,700
Sue not stand by that.
I still think he's mentally ill.

1249
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:47,900
Definitely mentally ill.
But I also now think he's

1250
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:54,300
extremely traumatized.
Is he a wackadoo probably not.

1251
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:58,300
I think this guy's experience
something that he doesn't know

1252
01:14:58,300 --> 01:15:00,400
how to handle.
He didn't know how to handle.

1253
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:04,400
So he buried it in the back of
his mind and this is how he's

1254
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:09,900
now coping with it.
So because the mind does crazy

1255
01:15:09,900 --> 01:15:14,500
things.
So I'm fairly fairly familiar

1256
01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:16,400
with alien abduction stories,
right.

1257
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:25,100
There's the There's like four
four or five like really big

1258
01:15:25,100 --> 01:15:27,700
time.
Alien abduction stories and will

1259
01:15:27,900 --> 01:15:29,700
eventually get into all of them,
right?

1260
01:15:29,700 --> 01:15:31,100
You have the Travis Walton
story.

1261
01:15:31,100 --> 01:15:33,700
You have this one with these
Troopers communion, Betty and

1262
01:15:33,700 --> 01:15:40,200
Barney Hill and Tonio Vilas.
Boas are boys, which is probably

1263
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,800
one of the biggest ones ever.
And then from there, I mean, you

1264
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,200
have some other smaller ones and
you have some really big ones

1265
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:54,100
with just, you know, alien craft
like the was it the Virginia

1266
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,700
South American one where beings
actually came out of a crashed

1267
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:06,100
ship which again will eventually
get into I don't remember.

1268
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:10,500
And I could be wrong but I don't
ever remember any of these,

1269
01:16:10,500 --> 01:16:14,400
having a sexual aspect to it,
other than communion, which

1270
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,400
really plays to your guys, is
point of view here that this is

1271
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,500
could.
This could really just be.

1272
01:16:21,900 --> 01:16:24,700
Yeah, if that's the case.
If this is the only story that

1273
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,500
you can think of then yeah, I
would lean more towards.

1274
01:16:27,500 --> 01:16:30,600
It's a this guy's trying to
rationalize his traumas.

1275
01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:33,300
Yeah.
But on the other hand it could

1276
01:16:33,300 --> 01:16:36,100
be both.
It could be that an experience

1277
01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:39,800
happened to him.
With to Jeff's Point into

1278
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:46,300
Jeremy's point of a, you know,
demonic entity that was jerking

1279
01:16:46,300 --> 01:16:49,100
around with him.
And he actually did experience

1280
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:53,700
these things but in a, you know,
in maybe like nightmares and

1281
01:16:53,700 --> 01:16:58,600
visions and stuff, you know, I
don't believe it, but he could

1282
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:03,200
have had an alien experience.
And he could also have had

1283
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:07,500
trauma in the past.
You know, what's the, what's the

1284
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:12,000
key marker of aliens visiting
people?

1285
01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:17,200
I don't know what that is, but
it could be people that have had

1286
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,300
trauma in their past.
Yeah.

1287
01:17:19,300 --> 01:17:22,100
Well, you know, that could be
the trauma in itself, right?

1288
01:17:22,100 --> 01:17:24,500
Like Jeremy said earlier right,
like, he could have actually had

1289
01:17:24,500 --> 01:17:27,100
an experience with some entity,
right?

1290
01:17:27,100 --> 01:17:30,200
I'm some kind inter-dimensional,
or not, whatever.

1291
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:32,300
And that could have been when he
was 12, right?

1292
01:17:32,300 --> 01:17:36,100
And now later on eyes, got all
of this like exaggerated Vicious

1293
01:17:36,100 --> 01:17:39,200
memory fuckery with that
experience, I did happen.

1294
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,100
So we're still not getting the
actual details of the events

1295
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:47,100
that make sense, like it's all
clouded and we're going off

1296
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:50,200
Hypno, you know, therapy shit
here.

1297
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:57,800
It's like so I want to actually
take back what I said.

1298
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,300
From the from the four or five
major ones, right?

1299
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:09,800
there may not be any like real
sexual connections, but All the

1300
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,100
time.
And I can't believe, I actually

1301
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:15,900
skipped over this.
But all of the time, the reason

1302
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:20,000
why we joke so much about anal
probes is because that is

1303
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,300
something that has been reported
quite a bit.

1304
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:29,800
Also, extracting semen and eggs.
It is something that has been

1305
01:18:29,800 --> 01:18:34,700
talked about and boarded an
alien abductions.

1306
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:37,900
I, you know, I kind of
embarrassed for myself or even

1307
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:40,600
forgetting that.
That but you know, when it comes

1308
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,500
to like the big four or five
stories out there right now, I

1309
01:18:45,500 --> 01:18:48,400
don't believe any of them really
have a sexual thing.

1310
01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:51,400
I could be wrong on one or two
of them, eventually will get

1311
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:53,800
back to normal.
Well, dive into them really

1312
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:58,600
uncover whether or not they do,
but I was wrong.

1313
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,600
There definitely is a sexual
aspect to a lot of this

1314
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:06,700
including interbreeding, both by
artificial.

1315
01:19:06,700 --> 01:19:15,000
And by natural means, So, by
removing sperm and eggs and then

1316
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:19,700
also by regular coitus with with
an alien creature.

1317
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:24,800
So I mean shit you know there's
a there's a theory out there

1318
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:32,000
that us humans are just alien
primate hybrids you know.

1319
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,000
That's why we have skin instead
of fur or hair all over our

1320
01:19:35,008 --> 01:19:37,800
bodies because we have half of
their genes and half of a

1321
01:19:37,808 --> 01:19:39,900
primate sheets.
Jake.

1322
01:19:39,900 --> 01:19:42,200
I know you don't believe any of
that but that is just Theory

1323
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:46,400
that's out there so there's
that.

1324
01:19:46,700 --> 01:19:50,600
But I like her is a church or in
my own town.

1325
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:54,200
If you want to start going no no
I like it.

1326
01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:57,400
I believed it.
I was just saying that that is a

1327
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:05,300
very common thing and as far as
I know I don't Probably going to

1328
01:20:05,308 --> 01:20:07,100
get sued now.
It's probably take this out.

1329
01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:12,900
Oh, shit, you're probably right
about those people, there.

1330
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:17,300
Any mention of it, you get sued.
Um, well bleep it out.

1331
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,600
But what about like?
The idea of there's so many

1332
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:26,100
different variations of
extraterrestrials, you're going

1333
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:28,700
to tell me that there's that
many different types of

1334
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,500
extraterrestrials that are
visiting.

1335
01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:33,000
The planet, I have had all kinds
of ones.

1336
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,900
There's a lot, dude, definitely
The baked or the short grey

1337
01:20:35,900 --> 01:20:39,300
aliens with black eyes, green.
Aliens, like the kelly green

1338
01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:43,000
men, right?
You got the mix.

1339
01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,200
The nordics, the reptilians.
You got the injured colds.

1340
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:50,200
Apparently, the, insectoids the
insectoids, got all these

1341
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,500
different variations.
There's a lot.

1342
01:20:53,500 --> 01:20:57,400
There is a lot of there man and
it's like, every single one of

1343
01:20:57,400 --> 01:21:01,700
them, even the insectoids know
how to get over here, you know,

1344
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:03,500
honest or stuff.
It's like either.

1345
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:09,000
I don't know II, can't put a lot
of weight into any sort of alien

1346
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,900
story without thinking.
Like, you know, Jeff said that

1347
01:21:12,900 --> 01:21:18,300
there is a very much more
nefarious thing going on just to

1348
01:21:18,300 --> 01:21:23,300
create confusion, just to Jack
people up, you know, all kinds

1349
01:21:23,300 --> 01:21:31,300
of stuff but yeah, nothing is
what it seems, my friends

1350
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,100
questionnaire.
So check this out, right?

1351
01:21:34,100 --> 01:21:37,900
Here you go.
The book, the Extraterrestrial

1352
01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:43,400
species Almanac.
Mmm, it's a hold of look filled

1353
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,600
with different species of alien
beings man.

1354
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:48,800
Bro, somebody's making money on
that dude.

1355
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,900
I'm about to make a book, dude.
I'm not even kidding bro.

1356
01:21:52,900 --> 01:21:55,900
I'm going to make a book that
thick about the Moschino in the

1357
01:21:55,900 --> 01:21:57,900
DMT world.
I'm just going to make it up.

1358
01:21:57,900 --> 01:22:00,300
Make your knees straight, all of
it and it jerk.

1359
01:22:00,300 --> 01:22:08,400
Oh yeah, dude.
Like, I have crazy ideas for

1360
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:12,500
books, and my been racking my
head about who I can get to

1361
01:22:12,500 --> 01:22:15,600
illustrate them Jake, I've even
asked you if you drew remember

1362
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:16,300
that.
Yeah.

1363
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:21,000
Dude, huh.
We're about to make some money

1364
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:25,400
with this shit Pazuzu.
Hey, look, they say right on

1365
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:28,800
their website that if you're
making more than like 15,000 a

1366
01:22:28,808 --> 01:22:30,900
month, that you owe them
royalties.

1367
01:22:31,300 --> 01:22:34,300
So eventually it'll be, you
know, a thing.

1368
01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,100
If Actually making money with
it.

1369
01:22:36,100 --> 01:22:38,700
But yeah, they say it's wide
open.

1370
01:22:38,700 --> 01:22:42,400
You can go ahead and use their
use the art because all, it's

1371
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:44,800
all based off your prompts.
It's not ripping anyone off to

1372
01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:47,600
ya Makin. 15 grand a month.
You can have all the royalties

1373
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:51,500
you want.
Oh, yeah, set for 100%.

1374
01:22:51,700 --> 01:22:56,100
It's like problems, you know,
he's sweating it right.

1375
01:22:56,100 --> 01:22:58,800
Like my landlord hit me up the
other day and he's like a bro, I

1376
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:01,100
hate to tell you about the rents
going up like 30 bucks.

1377
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:03,100
Hope that's ok.
I'm like bro I'm not stressing

1378
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:07,500
$30 and I got to move Move over
$30 a month, it'll cost me more

1379
01:23:07,500 --> 01:23:10,600
to get a Truck, fill it with gas
move the whole thing.

1380
01:23:10,900 --> 01:23:13,100
Then what you're talking about
over the whole year Maestro.

1381
01:23:13,100 --> 01:23:16,300
Man, that's 360 bucks.
Nice dressing bro.

1382
01:23:16,300 --> 01:23:17,500
Cause you more than that to
move?

1383
01:23:18,100 --> 01:23:22,300
I get all right.
Anybody else have anything else

1384
01:23:22,300 --> 01:23:24,600
to say?
We're at an hour and 22 minutes?

1385
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:27,200
I know Jeff is probably freaking
the fuck out.

1386
01:23:27,900 --> 01:23:29,500
This is bedtime.
Yeah.

1387
01:23:30,700 --> 01:23:33,000
It's close to my bedtime but I
might actually play some video

1388
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:34,400
games tonight.
It's been a while.

1389
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,900
I like your face Studio
background, let's just do the

1390
01:23:36,907 --> 01:23:41,300
party, right?
I like how you look like a ghost

1391
01:23:41,300 --> 01:23:46,200
because her I just actually made
this background on mid-journey

1392
01:23:46,500 --> 01:23:49,500
during the episode.
You guys watching, you'll notice

1393
01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:51,600
the change that happened made at
caesarea.

1394
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,900
I like watch you.
Do the change back?

1395
01:23:54,900 --> 01:23:56,400
What?
I've been working on, I've been

1396
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,500
working on the thumbnail for the
YouTube video.

1397
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,500
There you go.
That's awesome.

1398
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,200
Oh, for me.
Yeah.

1399
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,200
Or for this For this episode 04,
this episode cool.

1400
01:24:07,900 --> 01:24:12,500
I got a picture of Whitley
strieber, and it looks just

1401
01:24:12,500 --> 01:24:17,200
like, I we get sued for that
Tim's artwork which I sent a

1402
01:24:17,208 --> 01:24:20,200
picture of to the group chat, by
the way, I did see it.

1403
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:23,600
Well, let's go ahead and, and
get out of here.

1404
01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:26,600
So, everybody listen to, this
doesn't have to hear about all

1405
01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:35,200
of this business decisions.
All right, well, that That has

1406
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,500
been another episode of The
Infinity Rabbit Hole podcast.

1407
01:24:37,500 --> 01:24:40,200
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1408
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,300
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1409
01:24:42,300 --> 01:24:45,000
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1410
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,700
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Oh man, the stickers.

1411
01:24:47,700 --> 01:24:49,200
There's all kinds of stickers
out there.

1412
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:52,400
Let me tell you, there's ones
with, with Bigfoot with us,

1413
01:24:52,500 --> 01:24:56,900
there's me as a Bigfoot.
There's, there's a kid Ken's are

1414
01:24:56,900 --> 01:24:59,600
over there.
As a orange-haired windigo.

1415
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:04,400
There is Jeffrey as a cyborg.
Yes, a cyborg.

1416
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,800
And then Is Jake sitting in a
bloody toilet old, holding a

1417
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:11,800
spirit.
Orb has a Kappa, has a castle in

1418
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,700
black.
There are werewolves, there are

1419
01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:18,000
aliens, There Are UFOs.
There are all kinds of really

1420
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,000
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You guys like stuff that we

1421
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,300
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1422
01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:23,300
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1423
01:25:23,300 --> 01:25:26,800
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1424
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,600
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1425
01:25:29,900 --> 01:25:32,800
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1426
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,900
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1427
01:25:34,900 --> 01:25:35,700
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1428
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:38,000
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1429
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:42,600
But thank you.
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1430
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,400
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In the next fourth of the

1431
01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:47,100
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Bye bye.

1432
01:25:47,700 --> 01:26:13,000
Bye.
It was to find that special

1433
01:26:13,000 --> 01:27:06,700
feeling.
I had this bishop.

1434
01:28:20,100 --> 01:28:20,800
Negative.