Flat Earth Conversation Part 1 feat. Declassified Dave

1
00:00:03,700 --> 00:00:07,600
Hello, my name is John, so sure,
the father Jeremy Scioscia and I

2
00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,000
want to welcome you to the next
exciting episode of the infinite

3
00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:51,100
rabbit hole.
Welcome back to another

4
00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:52,900
gripping.
Episode of the infinite Rabbit

5
00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:55,700
Hole podcast.
I am your host Jeremy and today

6
00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:58,000
we're going to dive into the
world of Flat Earth.

7
00:00:58,500 --> 00:01:01,800
Why don't know, actually, I do
know, take that back.

8
00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,700
It is in response to the
hush-hush society conspiracy

9
00:01:05,700 --> 00:01:08,500
hours.
Newest episode, or not newest

10
00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:09,700
episode.
I don't know when this episode

11
00:01:09,700 --> 00:01:12,800
is going to come out and so it's
one of their newest episodes

12
00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:17,400
their part to of Flat Earth we
were going to do a different

13
00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,700
episode today.
And actually, it was Turn up to

14
00:01:19,708 --> 00:01:23,600
bat kids going to jump in next
time on the in forever home.

15
00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,700
Bring us her newest topic but I
just had to do this because I've

16
00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:31,800
been holding off for just so
damn long but we'll get into

17
00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,100
that story here in a second.
First I want to bring in

18
00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:35,800
everybody and then bring in our
guest.

19
00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:38,600
Let's start with kid kid.
Why I brought you up?

20
00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,900
How are you doing today?
I'm okay, I've been better but

21
00:01:43,100 --> 00:01:45,800
also been worse.
So I'm ready.

22
00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,300
Surviving right now.
You ready to get flat?

23
00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,400
I am.
Yeah.

24
00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:57,200
Flat like a pancake and then the
next guy who believes in the

25
00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,800
firmament.
Jeffrey sir.

26
00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,900
Geoffrey sir, Geoffrey Flat
Earth row.

27
00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:07,200
Why does everybody make these
assumptions about her Jeffrey of

28
00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,699
the Flat Earth?
No matter how many times I

29
00:02:10,699 --> 00:02:15,600
repeat myself, people still say
I'm a fan moving on to Jake

30
00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,100
Jake, how you doing today?
Well, Whitney brought the ick

31
00:02:19,100 --> 00:02:24,400
home, maybe, maybe covid.
I don't know, maybe not and I'm

32
00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,100
wearing my show hat.
So I'm ready to defend the

33
00:02:27,100 --> 00:02:31,100
government and their interests.
With whatever I need to in this

34
00:02:31,100 --> 00:02:32,500
topic.
So I'm sorry.

35
00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000
I meant, I meant no disrespect,
I just don't know.

36
00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:39,200
Listeners, that's okay because
the record for the record.

37
00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,200
I am not a flat earther.
However, I will take the role in

38
00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:49,200
taking down, chill, Jake here
and his chivalry.

39
00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,800
So I will be defending the Flat
Earth theory.

40
00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,500
One of us has sailed 15,000
miles, nautical miles.

41
00:02:58,700 --> 00:03:03,000
Us and not falling off the edge
of the Earth of us has not as

42
00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:08,900
fell off the we'll get to it
buddy.

43
00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:13,400
Jake you almost didn't.
Wait to make the episode today,

44
00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:14,500
man.
You feeling better?

45
00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,900
Yeah, I got I don't know.
I feel like I have some like

46
00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:23,500
nasal congestion cold thing.
Whitney has something going on.

47
00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:25,700
We got our covid tests in
waiting, on them to come back.

48
00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:32,400
But even if it's not Covid.
I mean the ink is around this

49
00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,100
time of year so it's just you
know, it's not that at something

50
00:03:35,100 --> 00:03:37,400
else.
So whatever, you know, I got two

51
00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,700
kids in the house right now, the
flu.

52
00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:41,700
So I'm sure I'm going to get
that to you very soon.

53
00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,300
All right.
So moving on the reason why

54
00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:47,600
we're doing this episode is
because of our guest Dave.

55
00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:55,600
How dare you are you Dave
welcome aboard.

56
00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,800
A game idea about doing this
until What 1:00 today or

57
00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,300
something?
I know dude on a whim, dude, on

58
00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:04,900
a whim, I was like, hey, are you
busy this afternoon?

59
00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:10,200
I can make it work, Yahoo, I
appreciate it.

60
00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,500
Sorry.
All right over there to kind of

61
00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:20,000
get everyone caught up and up
speed of what's going on here.

62
00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:22,600
I listen to an episode of the
hush-hush society today.

63
00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,000
As I do very often they put out
good quality stuff and I like

64
00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:32,400
their shit and the episode that
they talked about today was Flat

65
00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,300
Earth, their part to revisit to
topic Dave.

66
00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:42,400
If I'm, if I'm correct you guys
Revisited because You guys got

67
00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:47,100
some hate mail huh?
Yeah we originally did the topic

68
00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:56,300
in May of 2021 and we took a
lava dump on the whole thing and

69
00:04:56,300 --> 00:05:01,100
it was it just didn't feel fair
and then well in my eyes it

70
00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:02,900
didn't feel fair.
I can't speak for the other two

71
00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:06,000
because they enjoy taking dumps
on this.

72
00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:13,200
No matter what. but, I felt it
needed a fair shake.

73
00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:17,500
And so I tried and tried and
tried, since at least want to

74
00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:21,200
say, at least, beginning of
August, just not every day,

75
00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,700
because I would lose my mind but
a couple times a week spending

76
00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:30,100
like an hour or two couple hours
really diving into it and

77
00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,300
reformulating all the
information that I had

78
00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:38,500
accumulated the first time
without being a sassy pants

79
00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:44,100
about it, I guess.
So after years of study that you

80
00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:48,300
put into this years and years
and years decades, some may say,

81
00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:52,900
are you now a flat earther?
No, but I'm open to

82
00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:57,700
conversation.
I, we have some things planned

83
00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:01,100
with our, our show with some
other shows where there's

84
00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:03,500
another Flat Earth episode
coming out sometime in the

85
00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:08,800
beginning of the year.
And it's with it's me against.

86
00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:15,100
Different types of flat earthers
biblical, father's, geocentric

87
00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:22,700
model flat-earthers and I'm
terrified, but it's going to be

88
00:06:22,707 --> 00:06:25,500
a lot of fun.
They're good people, it's going

89
00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:31,200
to be a one part series of three
or four different episodes can't

90
00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,400
say too much about it right now.
But no, dude.

91
00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,700
That sounds freaking exciting
out a lot.

92
00:06:36,300 --> 00:06:38,300
Yeah, yeah.
It's been a couple months in the

93
00:06:38,300 --> 00:06:41,800
works and And I can say it's
like eight different shows all

94
00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:46,900
in one, so it's a major cluster
but you're just gonna get rammed

95
00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:49,400
by one show after another.
Yeah.

96
00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,800
And speaking of ramming you ask
me what happened hate mail.

97
00:06:53,300 --> 00:06:56,600
We very quickly after our
episode back in May of twenty.

98
00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,400
Twenty-One got email from David
Weiss.

99
00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:04,400
As we would I'm sure any time
some, anytime Flat Earth pops up

100
00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,100
on a feed.
He's probably one of the first

101
00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:10,500
people to jump on that and
listen to it and He had an

102
00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:18,100
exchange with Mike via email and
it was some name-calling and it

103
00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:24,100
was it was I thought it was
funny because we were, you know,

104
00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:29,200
he called us all these names
morons and bunch of paid idiots

105
00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,100
and whatnot and David we get
Negative money on this show.

106
00:07:34,100 --> 00:07:38,300
So let me tell you, not pole
facts that made opposition,

107
00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:40,600
sorry.
Paying opposition, I guess you

108
00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,800
and we invited him in this
episode to come on the show or

109
00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400
anyone to come on the show
because I would really love to

110
00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,900
interview somebody that's like
hell bent on it and there's no

111
00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:56,500
other, no other Theory, other
than that, but we'll see.

112
00:07:56,500 --> 00:08:01,000
We just dropped it a Monday.
So it's a it's got good

113
00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,800
reception though.
No, hate mail yet, good plays,

114
00:08:03,900 --> 00:08:08,900
but they're coming is word yet.
That's a word.

115
00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,700
So let's go around the table
real quick and just kind of get

116
00:08:14,700 --> 00:08:18,700
a base thought where everyone
sits on this topic because this

117
00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:23,100
is a controversial topic man.
I hear from every single podcast

118
00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:28,000
that does the flatter topic that
they instantly become like the

119
00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:33,200
center of the universe of hate
like everyone just jumps jumps

120
00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:38,799
on the train and just you know
goes the town on a podcast.

121
00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,600
Immediately after the drop an
episode on Flat Earth and we've

122
00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,300
held off so long on Flat Earth
because I'm going to I'll just

123
00:08:48,300 --> 00:08:51,900
go first not a flat earther not
in the least bit.

124
00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:55,300
I actually, this is one of those
topics where I don't even want

125
00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:56,900
to waste my time, doing research
on it.

126
00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:01,400
Just, just be honest with you, I
just don't believe it.

127
00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,800
Now, do I will I accept anybody
coming out to the show as a flat

128
00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,000
earther to kind of, come on, and
try to change my mind?

129
00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,400
Mind with some facts and
everything.

130
00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,700
Absolutely, for sure I'm
open-minded, let's talk about

131
00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:17,300
it.
But for the most part no II

132
00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:21,000
think it's think it's a waste of
time in just being honest with

133
00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:22,600
you, I really do.
I think there's other things in

134
00:09:22,608 --> 00:09:26,200
this world that are much more
fascinating and like you said in

135
00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,300
your episode there, David or no,
it wasn't you.

136
00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:33,100
I think it was Mike.
Actually who said what's it

137
00:09:33,100 --> 00:09:36,300
going to change?
Even if, even if the world is

138
00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:40,200
flat, you didn't care.
What is his thing.

139
00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,900
And that was even a year and a
half ago as well.

140
00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,600
He was like, I don't give a
shit.

141
00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:49,000
That was, that was pretty much
where he was at, and that's why

142
00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,500
he was pretty apprehensive,
Frankie was on the fence but he

143
00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:54,700
was pretty apprehensive to do
it.

144
00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:56,700
He's like, I don't want to waste
my time on this, I don't want to

145
00:09:56,708 --> 00:10:02,300
waste it episode but I pushed
him off the Flat Earth to do it.

146
00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:06,900
And so, so So that's kind of how
we landed here, right?

147
00:10:06,900 --> 00:10:09,100
Is because I don't want to do
the research.

148
00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:16,400
I just don't Jeff, I don't know.
I am a little bit but at the

149
00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:20,600
same time, like Jeff may or may
not bring it to the table one

150
00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,100
day and I'm sure he's gonna do a
hell of a better job than I am,

151
00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:25,000
or he's going to get a guest
that can do a hell of a better

152
00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,100
job than I would.
I can.

153
00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:29,800
So I'm waiting for that because
I want it to be a mind-blowing

154
00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,500
experience.
I know Jeff's going to come

155
00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:34,300
prepared.
Speaking of Jeff.

156
00:10:35,300 --> 00:10:41,300
Let's jump straight to you, man.
Are you or are you not well?

157
00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:49,200
Okay pancakes or muffins?
Well, if you've listened to like

158
00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,500
pretty much any of the other
episodes, you know that I'm not

159
00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:55,100
a flat earther.
That's not true.

160
00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:56,900
Which episodes are episodes your
apps.

161
00:10:56,900 --> 00:10:57,600
Yeah.
All of them.

162
00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:00,200
Even the space is fake episode.
Right?

163
00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,700
Let's that clear.
I explicitly say like I'm not a

164
00:11:02,700 --> 00:11:04,300
flat earther.
I don't think I don't.

165
00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,600
Leave the Earth is flat right.
My my stance honor this my

166
00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:14,600
stance on this is its kind of
complicated honestly but

167
00:11:14,700 --> 00:11:20,400
honestly it's that none of us
know for one and for any of us

168
00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:24,200
to assume that we would know we
would have to take just blind

169
00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:27,400
information from what I call the
suits, right?

170
00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:32,400
The the lizard people that boys.
Yeah right alphabet soup.

171
00:11:34,900 --> 00:11:38,500
So now I'm not about that life
but the question, the problem I

172
00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:41,600
have is that most people who
blindly say, the Earth is not

173
00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,500
flat because this because that
they just don't even understand

174
00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:48,500
the model, right?
I've at least there's been a

175
00:11:48,500 --> 00:11:50,400
point in my life where I was a
flat earther, right?

176
00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,000
So I understand the model to the
point where I could explain it

177
00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,500
to some people, right?
I can kind of dumb shit down to

178
00:11:57,500 --> 00:11:59,000
people get it.
But yeah, that's the biggest

179
00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,700
problem I have people
immediately say, no.

180
00:12:00,700 --> 00:12:03,400
Because they don't understand
the model and I have a problem

181
00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,200
with that and it's Self.
So, I'm here to at least

182
00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,700
hopefully correct people's
perception of the model, if

183
00:12:09,700 --> 00:12:15,300
there is a misconception and
then explain why that could be a

184
00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,800
good question to ask.
You know, why can't we see the

185
00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,000
curve, or whatever the case may
be, right?

186
00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,800
So, that's kind of where I'm at,
perfect.

187
00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,800
I know exactly where we're going
to start with this episode.

188
00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:32,400
Let's move on to Jacob.
Yeah, I mean like even as a

189
00:12:33,100 --> 00:12:37,800
bible-believing guy, Why, you
know, hearing other Christians

190
00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:42,200
that are flat earthers and their
evidence from the Bible about

191
00:12:42,300 --> 00:12:44,300
how we know the Earth is flat
and stuff.

192
00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:48,700
Like, I'm just uninterested.
That's pretty much I'm in the

193
00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:50,500
same boat.
What does it matter?

194
00:12:51,900 --> 00:12:53,800
You know, in the grand scheme of
things.

195
00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,000
Who cares?
What does it matter?

196
00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,200
You know.
Oh my gosh, we're going to find

197
00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,900
out the truth and then and then,
you know, the other 98% of milk

198
00:13:02,900 --> 00:13:04,400
is going to be unlocked, you
know.

199
00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:09,900
No, it doesn't matter.
But yeah, I mean I but I'm open

200
00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:14,300
to the conversation because it's
like most of the stuff that we

201
00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:16,900
deal with on here.
It's like, we can't prove that

202
00:13:16,900 --> 00:13:19,600
Bigfoot exists.
We can be pretty, dang sure.

203
00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:23,100
You know, Jeremy has
experienced, but there's plenty

204
00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:26,300
of people that would say, oh no
you mind playing tricks on you

205
00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:30,500
or if there's no physical body,
you're lying or whatever you're

206
00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,000
misinformed or you know, X Y &
Z, whatever, but the

207
00:13:34,008 --> 00:13:37,500
conversation is still cool, you
know, even if you know, Jeremy

208
00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:39,700
was the only one in here that
believed in Bigfoot, which is

209
00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:42,400
not, but the conversation would
be cool to hash out.

210
00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,300
So, this conversation is cool.
But doing any sort of like, deep

211
00:13:46,300 --> 00:13:49,900
dive in Research into like
proving or disproving for me,

212
00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,100
just Stood in that.
Not hear people out, you know?

213
00:13:55,700 --> 00:14:04,400
All right kid okay I sit in this
weird Middle Ground of like I

214
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:10,000
really don't care, but I still
really want to know like like of

215
00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,600
spaces I want the answer, right?
Like I really could care less of

216
00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,600
space was fake, but I really
want to know if space is fake

217
00:14:19,100 --> 00:14:25,100
the same thing like I also don't
think I could really sit here.

218
00:14:25,100 --> 00:14:29,800
I could sit here and say that it
wouldn't change my mind set on

219
00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,600
the world, but it probably would
I don't want to see, I could,

220
00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:40,200
that's that you that's almost
like Pun intended

221
00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:45,000
world-shattering information?
Good one right?

222
00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,800
Like yeah, isn't it kind of like
a defeating argument because

223
00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,100
really the most hardcore
flat-earthers?

224
00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:55,700
The only way they would possibly
believe that the Earth was not

225
00:14:55,700 --> 00:14:59,800
flat was if someone launch them
up in a rocket and they're able

226
00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,900
to look out the window and see
the Earth.

227
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,000
But even then and if they said,
hey turns out the Earth is a

228
00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:07,600
globe.
None of their friends would

229
00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,900
believe it baby.
I call your attention.

230
00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:12,700
She'll now, you're lying to us.
We have to have the proof so

231
00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:15,800
it's just, there's no way to get
everyone on board anyway.

232
00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,300
Right.
That's the hardest part that's

233
00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:22,200
the hardest part right?
Because and it's not just from

234
00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,100
the flat earthers point of view.
It's from the what do they call

235
00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:25,900
him?
The globe cards.

236
00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:37,400
Great globalists laugh so hard.
When I heard that the globe

237
00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:44,800
starts like like myself.
If I'm a cube earth guy so I

238
00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:49,000
know she likes Raptors.
I actually go for the bottom of

239
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,700
bikinis.
I like that shape.

240
00:15:50,700 --> 00:16:06,400
So, but anyways now we're off
point anyways, it's a difficult

241
00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,900
fight, no matter what.
Side of the field, your honor.

242
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,100
It doesn't matter.
You're going to tell me

243
00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:14,700
something and I'm going to go
two years of Science and

244
00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:21,100
everything and engineering and
whatnot with my evidence.

245
00:16:21,100 --> 00:16:25,600
But at the same time, that same
stuff that I sit there and quote

246
00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,100
when it comes to other
conspiracies is the same stuff

247
00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:32,700
that I don't believe in when it
comes to like the, you know,

248
00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:37,700
NASA landing on the moon or us
landing on the moon or the JFK

249
00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:41,300
assassination or You know,
there's a lot of stuff where you

250
00:16:41,300 --> 00:16:43,700
know, I would be like, oh yeah,
so you're going to trust the

251
00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:47,300
government but yeah, I'm sitting
here trip government that you

252
00:16:47,300 --> 00:16:51,000
know the flat or the the Earth
is round.

253
00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:58,900
I would Elon Musk lie to us.
See, that's the thing that's

254
00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:02,400
also the thing.
No matter what, no matter what

255
00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,800
the actual I, why wouldn't he
can we just start?

256
00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,700
Can I start with?
Like the biggest thing which is

257
00:17:07,700 --> 00:17:09,099
what?
I'm buddy, pretty much said, is

258
00:17:09,099 --> 00:17:11,599
why does it fucking matter last
thing?

259
00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:15,099
Last thing last thing?
Okay, if it turns out that the

260
00:17:15,099 --> 00:17:19,400
world is flat and the only way I
want it to be flat as if there's

261
00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,599
actually more ocean and land
past the ice wall.

262
00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:25,700
If that's true fucking, that's
really cool.

263
00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:28,900
I dig that, I like that.
You know, exploration is neat.

264
00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:31,100
But other than that, I mean, if
it's just Nice warm.

265
00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:35,400
We fall off into the into the
great Abyss that sucks.

266
00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:39,600
But anyway, it was all right.
Conclusion was if there is

267
00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,200
anything past that extra land
and extra resources is

268
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:51,100
definitely more of a fascinating
idea, then I guess a lot.

269
00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:53,600
There's I mean, there's nothing.
There's so many different

270
00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:58,100
arguments and even with other
conspiracies people in that same

271
00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:01,900
topic, contradict each other
with Certain things and it makes

272
00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:03,500
one side.
It makes the people who are

273
00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:07,400
actually who might actually have
valid arguments and maybe even

274
00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:11,800
some some types of factual
information that they could

275
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,900
actually show you look bad,
because then you have the other

276
00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:16,700
side.
That's just kind of spewing

277
00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:23,300
garbage.
And and I think for me, when I

278
00:18:23,300 --> 00:18:25,800
think, when I say it, probably,
it would definitely change

279
00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,600
everything because, I mean,
you'd have economic collapse,

280
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,900
social collapse.
Religious collapse, there'd be

281
00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,800
all that stuff.
Would definitely just be shot in

282
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,200
a way that we probably would
never be able to understand

283
00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:42,000
because it's never happened to
us in that sense.

284
00:18:42,100 --> 00:18:45,000
But I guess for me, the would it
matter.

285
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,400
There's a lot of the arguments
of all you're locked in this

286
00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,800
prison and your, it's a
spiritual prison or whatnot.

287
00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,600
And for me, I think it's, I
think it would be fascinating

288
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,500
either way if we're actually on
a planet spinning through

289
00:18:58,500 --> 00:19:00,400
whatever that's still pretty
fast.

290
00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:02,400
Donating compared to whatever
the shape is.

291
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:07,000
So for me, I've gotten off of
the point of the shape and more

292
00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:13,500
of the How much is, how much are
we being lied to about about the

293
00:19:13,508 --> 00:19:15,700
stuff?
And I kind of veered off of like

294
00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:18,000
it's flat isn't a muffin?
Is it a pancake?

295
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:22,300
Is it a velociraptor you know
like or is it a pear shaped like

296
00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:27,100
Neil deGrasse Tyson says the
shape for me, doesn't matter as

297
00:19:27,100 --> 00:19:27,700
much.
It's more.

298
00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:35,700
Like why I asked him?
Yeah he's he's more oval more

299
00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:36,800
egg-shaped.
Yeah.

300
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,700
Handsome.
No handsome, man.

301
00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:47,300
So, no, not that either oblong.
All right, ice wall on the other

302
00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:51,200
side of that is either where the
reptilians are or the white

303
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:53,100
walkers.
Either way, I can't see anything

304
00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:56,300
good being on the other side of
the ice wall, I'm team White

305
00:19:56,300 --> 00:20:00,700
Walkers.
I think I want to be one is not

306
00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,900
interesting that they do that in
pop culture though.

307
00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:06,500
Like they hint towards things
like that, just to debt.

308
00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:09,500
That is interesting.
It's to make fun of people, you

309
00:20:09,500 --> 00:20:11,700
know.
Very well could be, but I think

310
00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:15,200
that there's a mix of that.
It's a bit of mocking and it's

311
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,700
also a bit of seed, planting and
Doctor nation and Doctrine.

312
00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:22,900
It's a lot of it, you know, it's
a mix of everything, but it's

313
00:20:22,900 --> 00:20:25,000
interesting that they do that.
That's all I'm saying.

314
00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:28,900
So first thing, I would like to
say, well, not the first but one

315
00:20:28,900 --> 00:20:31,300
thing I would like to say before
we get really hot into this

316
00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:35,800
topic is, I'd like to apologize
to The Travelers of the infant

317
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,200
rabbit hole because you're not
going to get a deep explanation

318
00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:43,000
of exactly.
We're talking about like if

319
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,400
you're listening to this and you
don't know anything about Flat

320
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,700
Earth.
You're like what the fuck is a

321
00:20:46,708 --> 00:20:51,300
flat or the ice wall, right?
First of all, get out from

322
00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:53,200
underneath the rock, you've been
living a lie.

323
00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:57,400
There's there's there's a couple
options for you, right?

324
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,300
You can Google it or you can
head on over to Hush Hush or

325
00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:05,400
even Shadow band.
Word us.

326
00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:06,900
You don't want to hear our
explanation.

327
00:21:10,500 --> 00:21:14,400
Every single podcast in the
history of podcasts have done

328
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,000
this at some point, like I'm
sure Rogen has touched on Flat

329
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,100
Earth, 20 times.
Now he doesn't want to touch it

330
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,700
anytime someone, I think Eddie
Bravo brings it up and he's like

331
00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:25,800
shut up.
Like you're like he just he and

332
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,300
I've never seen him want to
touch it.

333
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,400
I think he'll bring it up.
He brought it up randomly once

334
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,000
with Neil deGrasse Tyson.
And he was just like, He shot it

335
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,800
off.
Yeah, it's such a political

336
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:42,100
topic, it's it's nuts.
It is like your become Public

337
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,500
Enemy.
Number one, as soon as you start

338
00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:47,200
talking about it which gives it
weight it does does.

339
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,600
And then how many percent that
is?

340
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,600
The the most intriguing thing
about it.

341
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,300
Alright Jeff I know I kind of
got a little long-winded their

342
00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,200
man but let's go ahead and get
into.

343
00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:01,900
Why is it important?
Well, I mean, I think they've

344
00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:05,000
kind of touched on that already
a little bit, but, you know, it

345
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,500
is, it is something to think
about.

346
00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:14,100
If we do come to some
realization that we are in some

347
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:17,200
enclosed space, right?
Whether it is flat or not.

348
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,500
Like if we realize, even if it's
like, in that cartoon, I forget

349
00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:23,000
what it is war.
The Earth is like in the

350
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,400
confined Cube, you know what I
mean?

351
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,100
And it's like, we're
quarantined, you know, No.

352
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,400
Like if we find out anything
like that, then that just

353
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,800
changes like everything.
We understand about our

354
00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:37,800
existence in the universe,
right?

355
00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,200
Because as of right now as a
whole as a species, we all know

356
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,900
that we're the only thing out
there and we might believe and

357
00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:47,200
think and wonder and wish there
might be other shit out there.

358
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,900
But we know that there's not a
as of what we know.

359
00:22:51,100 --> 00:22:53,200
You know what I'm saying, that
makes sense from our

360
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,500
perspective, right?
So if we realize that something

361
00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:00,700
is not only out there but is so
Superior to us that it has

362
00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:04,600
enclosed Us in some kind of
enclosure since the beginning of

363
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,800
our existence.
Like that's, that's important.

364
00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:12,300
I think there's nothing more
important than that on some

365
00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:13,800
level.
Not to say that we should stop

366
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,000
everything and focus on that.
But that information would be

367
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,000
the most important.
What about asteroid craters?

368
00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:22,100
What do you mean all over the
place?

369
00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:25,900
It's all types of lakes and
stuff that used to be that we're

370
00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:28,800
listening goals, giant holes
from this is hitting the Earth.

371
00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:34,100
This is the thing, right?
It's we can go down a list for

372
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:36,400
days and days and days about
what about this, what about

373
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,700
that?
From both sides?

374
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,000
Like you can point out.
You can point out things that

375
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,400
prove bring out this list, space
is real.

376
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,500
And you know what I'm saying?
Like, you could go down the list

377
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:49,800
forever and I can go down a list
forever and we could do this for

378
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,400
days.
Days thinking like a like a

379
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,700
container like on Spaceballs or
they have to open it up and

380
00:23:56,700 --> 00:24:04,100
vacuum out all the air.
But anyways, listen, the point

381
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:06,800
is, like, I don't think we
should just get caught in the

382
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,000
weeds doing that like oh, what
about this?

383
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000
What about what?
Howard about those.

384
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,300
You know, that's pointless.
People do this all day, but the

385
00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:16,000
point is, that information would
be the most important

386
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,700
information that humankind ever
had.

387
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,400
If, that information came out,
so I don't disagree with you, I

388
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,200
don't because it would be
absolutely huge, but the thing

389
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,000
is, is, like, what does it
matter to me, right.

390
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,900
What does it matter to?
Jeremy.

391
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,600
It doesn't it may matter to my
kids, or my grandkids and my

392
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,700
great-grandkids or whatever.
Because we know that there were,

393
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,600
there were lice times or
Generations before us, right?

394
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,400
We know that it was there.
I mean, the amount of detail

395
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,100
that would have to be placed
into reality, you know, if this

396
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:57,900
isn't a simulation of, you know,
dead corpses and the history

397
00:24:57,900 --> 00:25:03,400
that were that were taught and
And everything that we've been

398
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,200
through, the detail would be way
too much for it to be all faked.

399
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,500
That's one thing that I just
want to get out of the way real

400
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:11,000
quick.
Is it a lot of people go around

401
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:17,000
this say, oh well the government
doesn't want you to to wipe your

402
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,100
butt, you know.
So they are they do want you

403
00:25:20,108 --> 00:25:21,700
wipe your Buzz?
They give you toilet paper

404
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,800
right?
Or four years ago when there

405
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,300
wasn't any yeah nobody wanted
that.

406
00:25:29,700 --> 00:25:33,800
But I mean, the thing is, is,
you know, a lot of people blame

407
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600
the government for everything.
And this is the, most shell

408
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,500
thing that I'm probably ever
going to say on this fucking

409
00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:41,000
show, is the government isn't?
They don't fucking care about

410
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,100
the details like that.
They just don't, they can't do

411
00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:44,400
it.
Then I'ma be honest with you,

412
00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:49,800
most of them aren't fucking
smart enough to do it, so to

413
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,900
move forward, right?
If I, if I find out in my time,

414
00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:00,600
my time here on Earth that the
Earth is Flat.

415
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,100
And there's this whole other
world beyond the ice wall.

416
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,600
What does that do for me?
My ever going to be able to go

417
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,200
there.
My ever gonna be able to check

418
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:09,900
it out.
Not at all.

419
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:11,500
My kid.
Probably won't build a chicken

420
00:26:11,500 --> 00:26:13,700
out.
My grandkids might not and

421
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:18,000
you're talking centuries before
anybody's got free access to

422
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,500
anything if not, never right?
And it just disappears again.

423
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,700
But where, you know, someone
could be listening to this and

424
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:28,500
be like, well dude, you're
obsessed with Bigfoot.

425
00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,800
The thing a difference about
Bigfoot is if we discover

426
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,200
Bigfoot, we could do something
with it right now.

427
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:36,500
And that's another thing that
that's correct.

428
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,800
Well, that's that's one thing I
talked about it.

429
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:47,600
Oh my goodness, I think it's a
good idea.

430
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,100
Just an idea.
All right, look Taxidermy is a

431
00:26:50,108 --> 00:26:53,300
thing.
Okay, I disagree 100%.

432
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,700
Do you?
Yeah 100% I guarantee you that

433
00:26:57,700 --> 00:27:02,300
if somehow and I am I saying
this is the case but it's if the

434
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:05,600
information came out tomorrow
and it said hey guys guess what?

435
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,500
There is a nice wall and there
is extra land over there.

436
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,600
Continent-sized, continents
sighs, write a whole nother

437
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,100
world over there on either side
that information came out

438
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,500
tomorrow.
I guarantee you if not people in

439
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:23,200
our generation like you said
your kids or grandkids would be

440
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:30,700
exploring that so that that
right there, Is Suzy.

441
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:32,800
I mean, I'm saying like this is
that, that is so incredibly

442
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,100
important, especially For What
humans are and what we have been

443
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:37,600
forever.
All right, that's what we do.

444
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,600
We explore, we find.
Oh, there's new shit for me to

445
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,000
go.
Look at, let's go.

446
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,900
Look at it.
I don't doubt that they'll have

447
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:50,300
a caravan of people heading
straight for the ice wall.

448
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,500
Naruto running right at it.
Should hit that right?

449
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:58,000
That's going to happen but that
Hefty climb I don't know.

450
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:58,800
No.
Dia.

451
00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,500
Right?
It's Becky.

452
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,200
Like I said, nothing that I've
ever looked into, I like, what

453
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,600
Dave brought up in there episode
is that, you know, somebody

454
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,000
could have seen an ice shelf and
thought of as a wall, it makes a

455
00:28:11,008 --> 00:28:18,800
lot of sense but but I get that
Jeff do.

456
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,600
But the thing is that, if if
that's the case, if there is

457
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:28,900
land Beyond extraterrestrial,
right extra Tara, I love that, I

458
00:28:28,908 --> 00:28:33,400
think it's dumb.
But anyways, somebody already

459
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,700
knows about it.
It's already been discovered,

460
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,200
it's already been, you know,
it's probably developed.

461
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:44,600
You know, if most likely there's
already something living Pastor

462
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,400
keeping this here resources.
Yeah, it's probably more of a

463
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,000
wasteland in this fucking
places.

464
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,000
Be honest with you.
I think the opposite one of

465
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,100
world for the water for the
Wasteland where the quarantine

466
00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:58,400
Zone everything out there is so
super Advanced 10,000 years,

467
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,200
more advanced, that's Atlantis.
And that's, you know, I'm happy

468
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,100
that you brought it up because
that is one of the things that,

469
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:07,900
you know, you have all of these
ancient civilizations that are

470
00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:11,100
constantly talked about
throughout history or, you know,

471
00:29:11,300 --> 00:29:13,800
quote-unquote history, like
Atlantis.

472
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,900
This is just an example, but
there's This amount of

473
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:22,100
civilizations just like Atlanta
is that we can't find right

474
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:25,600
there there or they're there in
our history, people have written

475
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,600
about them.
People have talked about them,

476
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,700
they've been passed down
verbally and written but we

477
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:32,000
can't find them.
Where are they?

478
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,100
We don't know right?
A lot of people were very quick

479
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:40,700
to just throw Atlantis to the
curb and say this never existed.

480
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,900
Maybe it does exist past the ice
wall.

481
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:47,800
I don't believe it but A little
known fact.

482
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,700
Amelia Earhart, actually Flew
Over the ice wall and then are

483
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:52,500
playing Crash.
That's why she could never come

484
00:29:52,500 --> 00:29:54,600
back.
That's not it.

485
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,500
No, it's true.
I heard that the other day,

486
00:29:57,500 --> 00:29:59,700
actually.
Let's all just first time

487
00:29:59,700 --> 00:30:02,200
winging it.
But yeah, I can't remember where

488
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,400
I heard that.
But something, there's some

489
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,100
conspiracy theory where she went
on some flight discovered

490
00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:14,500
something and then died suddenly
disappeared and died.

491
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:17,700
So there is a conspiracy theory.
They're all Died tick tied to

492
00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:19,900
everybody else.
But what about all the, like

493
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:22,400
hundreds of thousands of people?
I don't say Millions because I

494
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,700
don't have the numbers.
That's this might be even hi,

495
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:30,100
but let's say hundreds of
thousands of people that have

496
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:36,700
had Private plane licenses,
private aircraft licenses and

497
00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:40,800
fly around all over the place
and private ships and sail

498
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,800
around all over the place.
Like my best friend from high

499
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,500
school.
His dad has been continuously

500
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:49,300
sailing around the world for the
last 15 years.

501
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,100
He retired sold his house.
His parents got a divorce and he

502
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:57,000
sold the house.
He was constantly renovating

503
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,300
boats, got a big old boat,
renovated it out, and he's been

504
00:31:00,300 --> 00:31:02,600
sailing around the world.
Post pictures on Facebook all

505
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,800
the time of, this is where I'm
at this, where I'm at all sorts

506
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,600
of stuff.
Right?

507
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:08,400
But none of them has ever been.
Like, here's a picture of the

508
00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:13,200
Ice wall.
Well, paid opposition.

509
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,100
Duh.
Yeah, enough money to tell him

510
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,100
not to say anything about the
ice wall.

511
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:24,900
Yeah.
So There most definitely is like

512
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,900
a nice like a shelf of ice, you
know, if you go if you go to

513
00:31:30,900 --> 00:31:34,800
Antarctica I have not been down
south but I have seen National

514
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,500
Geographic videos.
David Attenborough talking about

515
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,100
this in that right in the
there's a giant ice shelf,

516
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,800
right?
And in some places you would

517
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,100
like you said, if you sell
across up to that, especially

518
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,000
500 years ago to be like Fucking
ice wall, right?

519
00:31:55,300 --> 00:32:00,200
So you know, people you could
sail around the world and not

520
00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:06,900
ever see Antarctica thing.
That's big eyes wall like the, I

521
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:08,800
don't understand, I guess, I
don't understand the question.

522
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,400
I thought you were going to
actually ask like, how come they

523
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,600
don't sail off the edge and I'm
not, I was just going to

524
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,300
immediately tell you.
You have no idea what the model

525
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:20,500
looks like, but no it was it was
where's the pictures of like The

526
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:24,000
the wall with something on the
other side or something like

527
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,700
that.
Like flying around being like oh

528
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,400
crap.
It's not like a wall, it's not

529
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,800
like a wall.
And then there's showing that

530
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,900
it's not like Game of Thrones
were literally, as there's our

531
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,400
land, a wall and then more other
shit Lana.

532
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,800
It's like you say a wall and I
know what a wall looks like.

533
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,600
And that's what a wall looks.
It's like the ocean and then

534
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,300
that ice shelf of Antarctica,
the the coastline of Antarctica

535
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:46,100
right there.
Imagining that it wraps around

536
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:49,400
the earth and that that's kind
of like the high end of a bowl

537
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,100
in the Is the load the water
right in a bowl.

538
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:55,000
If you imagine, and then there's
hundreds, thousands of miles of

539
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,200
ice, you know?
Plateau of ice.

540
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,600
Just, you know, mountains and
shit, right pyramids?

541
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,400
Right?
Let's not forget and then maybe

542
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,800
there's more land 10,000 miles
that way I guess, right?

543
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,900
Some number It's basically a big
Plateau, okay.

544
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:17,800
But giant Glacier mention a
glacier that just covers fucking

545
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,500
what you would think of the size
of Antarctica I suppose.

546
00:33:20,500 --> 00:33:23,100
And then just, you know, I'm
Gonna Let You Believe in like

547
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,500
the ring Theory, right?
Or that's the model you

548
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:28,600
referring to her, it's like
hears us, and then there's

549
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,700
another ring, another ring,
another ring.

550
00:33:31,700 --> 00:33:35,000
Again, belief is a No-No.
Well, that's that's the thing

551
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
that you're talking about,
right?

552
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,700
One of a couple of models that I
could stand behind to a certain

553
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:40,700
degree.
Yeah, sure.

554
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,300
Hey buddy, bear with us while we
take this quick break.

555
00:33:52,700 --> 00:33:55,700
We also have a lot of people, I
mean, I just looked up real

556
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:59,200
quick.
How much Antarctic cruises are

557
00:34:00,700 --> 00:34:03,600
for one person and they're
around 15.

558
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,500
Geez, just for the cruise.
So a lot of people don't see how

559
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:09,300
that just don't have that
pocket.

560
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:13,199
Money to go check it out for
themselves and and like we've

561
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,900
said on multiple occasions on
Antarctic episodes.

562
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Flat Earth episodes you can
Hollow Earth episode Antarctica

563
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,699
sucks.
Like nobody is going to go there

564
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:28,300
and if you're a private, if you
own like a Cessna you ain't

565
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,800
getting there.
So you know it's you got to have

566
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,199
some you gotta love those.
Flights are long, especially if

567
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,199
you're going, you know, even
just flying getting it getting

568
00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:39,500
to it and then flying over the
ice wall.

569
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,400
That would be definitive proof
if you can get to it and then

570
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,000
see, either it either curves
like a continent or it curves

571
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:50,300
all the way around and keeps
going like, what you'd see on

572
00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:53,100
the circular model for flat.
Earth and that would be

573
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:58,300
definitive, you know, but nobody
has pictures of it just like I

574
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:02,500
think I think it goes back to
the, to the lying in my most

575
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:08,700
intriguing part of it is The
whole resources fossil fuels

576
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,900
we're running out of this.
We have, you know, we're killing

577
00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:13,600
the air, that's that's horse
crap but you know, we're, you

578
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,200
know, I'm pretty sure.
Carter said it that we were in

579
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,500
10 years we're all going to be
baking, you know.

580
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:22,100
It's going to be like Venus
we're fucked and we're clearly

581
00:35:22,100 --> 00:35:27,400
not and the, you know, there's
but there's unlimited resources

582
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,200
behind this wall and that would
be intriguing, especially with

583
00:35:31,700 --> 00:35:35,100
current events.
And the way things are going

584
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,800
Really does kind of look like
people are just bullshitting us

585
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000
or we're just being trolled on
every level.

586
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,300
It's not a globe or it's flat,
you know, it's something else

587
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:46,700
entirely like it's a
velociraptor.

588
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:50,900
I'm telling you a relative.
Who says, I forget what I said,

589
00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,000
I should all time bed.
Same.

590
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,300
Triple he says that all the time
on.

591
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:58,700
Yeah, he says that, um, but it's
a but what, what's the, I guess?

592
00:35:58,700 --> 00:36:02,400
What would you define as a
realm, you know, like is it a,

593
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:04,900
you know, like The Truman Show
you know, is it just an area

594
00:36:04,900 --> 00:36:08,800
that's enclosed.
But that's that's my that's my

595
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,400
most intriguing part is why and
you have to go all the way into

596
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,700
like the Antarctic treaty and
why the Pentagon owns a piece of

597
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:16,800
the pie and all these other
nations.

598
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,800
And why can't you go there?
I think the, the conspiracy

599
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,400
theory of you being shot at
going.

600
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,300
There is horseshit.
I don't think you're going to

601
00:36:23,308 --> 00:36:27,300
get shot at because just the one
of the one of the baseball of

602
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:29,900
the San Diego Padres pitcher, is
there throwing baseballs the

603
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:31,500
other day and they filmed him
doing it?

604
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:33,100
But he might not actually be in
Antarctica.

605
00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:35,100
I mean we could be paid
opposition as well.

606
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:36,900
You never know you can go.
Antarctica.

607
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:40,100
But they're going to bring you
to a very select locations like

608
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:41,200
anything.
Any like you're saying with the

609
00:36:41,207 --> 00:36:44,300
cruise, if anybody's ever been
on any cruise to anywhere like

610
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,400
the cruise doesn't just take
over you want?

611
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,900
Yeah, exactly.
Your you brought to a very

612
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,500
curated location with curated
events for you to partake in.

613
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:57,500
Like you're not seeing like the
shitty parts of town or

614
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:58,400
whatever, you know what I'm
saying.

615
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,900
Like dude.
So I did add attachment to the

616
00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:05,400
Bahamas for two weeks to Andros
Island.

617
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:11,500
And or autec rather and it was
like a third world country like,

618
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:14,300
people had, we're flying over
and our helicopters and people

619
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:17,600
have tarps for roofs and all
sorts of stuff and we weren't

620
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,300
allowed to leave the base and
then you could see the other

621
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:23,300
Island where that was the fun
area and stuff.

622
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:25,700
And people are like, over there
blown thousands of dollars.

623
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:28,300
You're absolutely right.
I'm gonna show you this stuff.

624
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:30,700
Mostly Antarctica.
Be the best place for the hollow

625
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:34,200
Earth, you know, Admiral Byrd.
You know, that I put a picture

626
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,700
in the chat and I also sent one
to you.

627
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:41,100
David, In Facebook chats.
And, you know, just a quick

628
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:42,400
picture.
I found just to give you an idea

629
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,500
that there is like, some kind of
wall idea, right?

630
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,700
This idea of an ice wall does
exist, you know.

631
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:54,700
And, you know, that could be
anywhere. 150 200 feet high

632
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:56,300
depending on where you are,
right?

633
00:37:56,300 --> 00:38:00,400
So it's a big ice wall that
exist down there and then that

634
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,900
Plateau that you're seeing in
that picture that again could go

635
00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:06,000
on stretch for thousands of
miles.

636
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:10,200
Before you could get to the
potential extra Tara, right?

637
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,100
That's how big of a wall we're
talking about here.

638
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,500
So nobody's going to fly over at
me like, oh, I saw some shit on

639
00:38:15,508 --> 00:38:20,800
the other side, you know, well,
without without digging into it

640
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,700
and hearing the 10,000 miles of
ice, you say a wall, it's like,

641
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,300
well, how big of a wall are we
talking about now?

642
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:32,700
You know, not a cliff, that's
what that is.

643
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:35,100
An ice.
Cliff Thousand Mile, thick

644
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:40,400
Glacier Ice.
Walls are so thick like 15 sees.

645
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:48,800
I think I don't the image is a
legitimate picture.

646
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,500
Looks like it probably is but I
mean that could just be a chunk

647
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,700
of ice that just dropped off and
I mean it's not all, they talk

648
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,800
all the time.
About miles long chunks ice just

649
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,800
drop it on bro, bro.
Again we're I think that the

650
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,000
words are what the problem is.
It creates a specific?

651
00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:07,800
In your mind.
Everybody thinks like you're

652
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,300
saying one thing.
When you're meeting another

653
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:13,300
thing like you know let me just
find out what I'm picking up on

654
00:39:13,300 --> 00:39:21,400
here is Jeff saying wide Jeremy
saying long, those are two

655
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,000
different things.
Here comes another picture

656
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,200
thing.
Here's another picture.

657
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,500
Okay?
Just to give you an idea of

658
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:30,300
scale, and how people would
think that there's like a nice

659
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:32,200
wall here.
Like, this is a wall.

660
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,900
And, again, there's places where
it's smaller, and there's places

661
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:38,000
where it's bigger and we'll put
these pictures in the in, on the

662
00:39:38,008 --> 00:39:41,000
Facebook's for people to see
because obviously, we're talking

663
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,500
about pictures for 10 minutes,
but that's what's on the other

664
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:45,400
side.
This crappy Tent City in this.

665
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,100
Sure, right.
But again, you know, we're you

666
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:51,200
can't just show him something
you you and I cannot just take a

667
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,800
boat and just go hang out, get
up that wall and go do this.

668
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,800
You can't do that.
First of all, when are they

669
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,100
going to shoot at?
You probably not because they

670
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,700
know that.
Even if you tried to trick the

671
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:04,400
distance that you're seeing
there in the in the background,

672
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:07,800
you to go see what might be
Beyond, you're going to die, you

673
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,100
might not, you're not gonna make
it.

674
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,500
So what I had to do anything, if
you shall take their grills with

675
00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,800
me, tear take them.
Bear Grylls and his camera crew

676
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,300
in his mobile Hotel.
Computer cereals is full of

677
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:20,100
shit.
Yeah.

678
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,700
But we're going to be doubling
back every single time for his

679
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:33,800
camera equipment.
All right, I just want the film

680
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,100
crew from Bear Grylls.
Let's do it this way.

681
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:43,700
Anyways, so that's definitely an
ice shelf and to be like, you

682
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,900
know what flat-earthers were Or
two as the ice wall?

683
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:51,800
That's not it.
That's I mean that looks like

684
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:55,600
that's what I'm telling you
right now as a former flat

685
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,600
earther.
That picture.

686
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,800
Those pictures literally are.
What is considered the ice wall?

687
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:03,900
Yeah.
Okay.

688
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:06,100
Now you're right.
Yes, that could just be a giant

689
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,800
Glacier.
Maybe it's a mile long and it's

690
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,700
10 miles long, maybe it's maybe
it's a thousand, maybe that's

691
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,800
the literal Edge.
The coastline of massive Pieces

692
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,000
of Antarctica, which it is,
right.

693
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,500
So again, the idea is that
Antarctica.

694
00:41:21,500 --> 00:41:24,100
You have to understand the map,
right?

695
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,800
And I understand about, I've
seen the map so seen it.

696
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:31,800
This is the usual advice wall,
so that's my whole point.

697
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,100
Is that the ice wall is this
massive thing.

698
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,400
It's not this idea that Jake was
saying before.

699
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,600
That's my only point about this.
All right.

700
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:46,000
So, so we're having a circle
argument about what a wall is

701
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,500
Dave, what were some of the
things that you guys talked

702
00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:54,200
about on your episode of like?
Because Jeremy hinted at it with

703
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,500
me over the phone.
He said that you had kind of

704
00:41:56,500 --> 00:42:02,200
like a list of like the most
common or or most heart, the

705
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,800
hardest to debunk like arguments
from flat-earthers.

706
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,300
From from one, I talked about
the math.

707
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:12,700
The math of like the curve?
Yeah.

708
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:15,800
The parabola thing.
That was interesting to me.

709
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,300
Yeah, there was something that,
I mean, I'm bad at math.

710
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:25,600
Like like I said many times in
that episode but living on the

711
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:29,500
western side of the United
States and literally being able

712
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:33,200
to, I mean I can see the ocean
from my house, the whole

713
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:39,600
entirety of you know, this Coast
was was trying to do that trying

714
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:40,800
to do the math.
SLI.

715
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,100
I don't have any equipment to do
the math, but when you're

716
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:47,800
looking, I think one of the
things that I had taken, as an

717
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,800
example was seeing aircraft
carriers go, I don't want to say

718
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,200
go over the horizon because then
that, that starts the whole

719
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,300
where they start to float.
It starts well, when you, when

720
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:02,700
you Swatch them, go past your
point of vision.

721
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:09,600
I and what is it supposed to be
every 10 miles of 66.6 feet?

722
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,200
I think that was an intriguing
number two.

723
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,000
That I think a lot of people
there, they perk up when they

724
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,200
hear that.
They're like, oh, cool.

725
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:18,200
That isn't we got some
numerology going on?

726
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,800
I mean, you guys would know more
than me, but from my

727
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,700
understanding, a flight deck to
waterline is like 60 to 90 90

728
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:28,800
feet.
Yeah.

729
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,400
And then, from the top from that
flight, from the flight deck, to

730
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,400
the top of your radar is
probably the same.

731
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:38,500
I would imagine.
So you're looking at 180, I

732
00:43:38,508 --> 00:43:41,500
don't know how tall an aircraft
carrier is, but I would say

733
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:46,500
probably 150 to 180 feet above
the water line and you're

734
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:50,800
watching them go and you can
track them out.

735
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,600
You know, there's especially,
you know, there's some apps.

736
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,900
I had the app earlier, I wanted
to get it, but I couldn't find

737
00:43:58,900 --> 00:44:01,800
it because I used it when I was
doing this this research, but

738
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,500
there's an app where you can
actually, you know, see, How far

739
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:08,800
out they are?
And I'm sure you can use a

740
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,500
Sextant to if you really, really
want it to.

741
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:19,100
But some of these, some of these
ships are, you know, 20, 30

742
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:21,300
something because they do a lot
of the drills off the coast of

743
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:23,900
San Diego.
I think, fifth around 50 miles

744
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:29,700
out, and some of these ships, I
mean, you need you need you need

745
00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,500
to really good Optics, to go
that far obviously to see that

746
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,900
and you can still see them. but,
If you're going.

747
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:44,700
You only seem like itty-bitty
portions of the top and I want

748
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:47,800
to reiterate, you cannot see the
curve at Ground fucking level

749
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,200
even if it's on the ocean like
you're not going to be able to

750
00:44:50,207 --> 00:44:54,000
see that like there's no
possible way and most likely

751
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,800
probably from an probably even
at 30,000 feet.

752
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,500
I think I have seen it even
before I even knew about this.

753
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,200
The Flat Earth theory.
Do you know?

754
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:07,400
Well over a decade ago and had
some pictures, but I have also

755
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:12,300
been told That no it's just the
window of the plane that makes

756
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:14,900
it look like that.
And I'm like God, you know, then

757
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,200
it's you get you start to go
down the rabbit hole of all the

758
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,800
airlines are in on it too, and
they make the Windows like that,

759
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,900
to make it your perception
different and I've had that

760
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:26,900
argument with people, I don't
believe that that's something

761
00:45:26,900 --> 00:45:31,500
that's that's happening but the
whole you know, take a the

762
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:35,900
Chicago skyline for example.
What is it the Willis Tower?

763
00:45:35,900 --> 00:45:37,900
I think it called it the Sears
Tower in our episode.

764
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:43,600
I'm In the past, I think it
think Frankie had said it, it's

765
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:48,000
have to go into Google Earth and
do the measurements, but it's a

766
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,500
certain amount of miles.
But those building, I mean,

767
00:45:51,100 --> 00:45:55,500
buildings are like what 1,400
feet high.

768
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,500
So no matter ever eat.
If it's if it's 66 feet, every

769
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:01,300
10 miles, you gotta go a hell of
it.

770
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:03,300
You get if you got to go a hell
of a distance before, you can't

771
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:05,700
see those buildings and there's
a lot of arguments that you

772
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:09,400
know, you can see the buildings.
Well, yes, you You can because

773
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,800
it's their fucking huge.
If you've ever been to Chicago

774
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,800
or New York City, I mean, those
buildings are massive and like

775
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,300
David, why says, I could see New
York from Connecticut, you know,

776
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:22,600
shits 25 miles away.
Yeah, right.

777
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,400
Yeah.
You know, I saw, I saw smoke

778
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:29,900
from 9/11 when I was a kid.
Yeah, yeah, no shit, but I'm not

779
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:32,400
good at math.
So, if you're doing that, that,

780
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:38,300
that equation, what is it?
Let me pull it up, just so I can

781
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:40,900
I so, yeah, yeah, yeah, you do
that up.

782
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:46,400
Let me because you kind of
mention the seeing the curvature

783
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,300
from Planes and, and all that
kind of thing, right?

784
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:53,400
And, you know, I just want to
remind people that if you are

785
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:58,600
one who trusts the experts in
good for you, right?

786
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,800
Then I would assume that cool.
I would assume that you might

787
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,600
enjoy talks from people like
Neil deGrasse Tyson.

788
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,500
And, you know, this, The shows
or maybe not even particularly,

789
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:11,300
you know, you respect his
knowledge and these things in

790
00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:15,000
his opinion is word, right?
Well, he is said more than once.

791
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,500
That you cannot see the
curvature of the Earth from a

792
00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:21,800
plane.
In fact, that dude, the red

793
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,700
Felix Felix Baumgartner.
Yeah, you couldn't see the

794
00:47:24,700 --> 00:47:28,900
curvature at his height, he was
as you can't thousand feet.

795
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,000
Yeah.
So every time somebody says that

796
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,300
to me with I've been all playing
reader role-playing, but you see

797
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:35,500
the curvature unlike about your
dumb ass, you've never seen In

798
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:38,000
the curvature.
So you guys are probably in

799
00:47:38,008 --> 00:47:39,900
tricks on you.
Yeah, I think it's because of

800
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:42,400
how far a human being can
actually see.

801
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:44,800
It's all perception issue that's
like stitching.

802
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:48,600
I like that Meme where it's like
a basketball.

803
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,800
And the guys taken the camera
and zoomed right in, he's like,

804
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:56,000
see even a basketball is flat.
It's that's just you've gone so

805
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,600
far in on a certain perspective,
of course, it's going to be

806
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,400
flat.
Of course, it's going to be flat

807
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:05,300
like yes, that that mine.
There's no.

808
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,400
Way to determine from anything
that we can get in and go look

809
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,300
from with our own eyeballs.
If it's like just by looking at

810
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,100
it for a curve like the we can't
do that, there's nothing that

811
00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:18,800
you or I or anybody that we know
can do to do that.

812
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,600
Not now, maybe in 100 years
Yeah.

813
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:30,700
So I it's so hard because I just
I just don't know where to start

814
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:34,200
my head hurts right now and, and
never hooks say Jeremy, it looks

815
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,000
like your brains melting a
little bit.

816
00:48:36,300 --> 00:48:42,600
No, it's just, you know.
It's it's tough because at the

817
00:48:42,607 --> 00:48:45,700
same time, like I was telling
Jake, today it's going to be

818
00:48:45,707 --> 00:48:51,700
hard for me to stay like polite.
No, man say say what you think,

819
00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:53,400
bro?
I mean like, listen, here's the

820
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,800
thing, bro, we have dramatically
gonna throw insults.

821
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,300
Not nobody here.
Nobody in this in this call

822
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:03,900
right now is so tied to being a
flat earther that you would

823
00:49:03,900 --> 00:49:06,000
offend anybody.
I'm not a foot ladder there, I

824
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
know it does.
No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not,

825
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,800
I'm not talking about you, Jeff
Yeah.

826
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,200
Okay, I'm comfortable with you
but let's go.

827
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:15,400
We don't care.
I could care less.

828
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,200
If I if I hurt your feelings
I'll say you.

829
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,000
I'm sorry.
Give you a nice, big hug and a

830
00:49:19,008 --> 00:49:21,100
fat kiss.
Next time I see you or if I ever

831
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:25,100
see it and, and I'll always be
good.

832
00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:29,700
But the thing is is that, you
know, we have, we have

833
00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:33,200
listeners, right?
I don't know who 99% of them

834
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,700
are, and who knows?
Some of them may be flat

835
00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:39,500
earthers, and I don't want to
give the perception.

836
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:44,900
That I don't want to hear about
what their beliefs are or are

837
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:47,700
that I will not be open to
having a flat earther on the

838
00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:50,300
show because absolutely.
Like if there's a flutter

839
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:52,200
through out there that want to
come on the show and thinks that

840
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,200
they have some, some good
evidence and and whatnot and can

841
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,200
have an adult conversation about
it by all means, come on, you

842
00:49:59,207 --> 00:50:02,600
know, just know that my point of
view is not going to be your

843
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,700
point of view and that's okay.
You know someone can come on and

844
00:50:06,700 --> 00:50:10,100
say that I'm a fucking idiot
because my point of view and

845
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:12,400
that's fine long as they don't
do it through a fucking email.

846
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:18,300
I swear people that hide behind
email, Dave, David Wise, if

847
00:50:18,300 --> 00:50:23,500
you're listening, don't fucking
email me, Colin text him.

848
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:26,800
No, come on the show and tell
me, I'm a fucking idiot.

849
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:32,500
Leave us a voicemail, I believe
voicemail.

850
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:39,400
But the thing is is that some of
these, some of these points that

851
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:43,600
are Right up by flat-earthers
right and I haven't really heard

852
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:49,200
one yet that really makes me
stop and think I mean there's a

853
00:50:49,207 --> 00:50:55,700
couple that I'm like hmm maybe
and then you know you think

854
00:50:55,700 --> 00:51:00,400
about it and it's simply
dismissed like the one thing

855
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,500
that I was really excited to
talk about, right?

856
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:09,400
Was the flights are the aircraft
flights in your episode.

857
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:15,400
Are Dave.
If you can just briefly tell the

858
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,000
listeners, what the what the
argument was here from a flat

859
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,700
earthers point of view and then
I'll kind of fill in the rest,

860
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:26,400
okay?
So before two things before.

861
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,400
Yeah, before I go into that,
from a lot of those experiments

862
00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:33,500
where you can see the Chicago
skyline from across Lake.

863
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:36,200
Michigan is generally about 50
miles.

864
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:42,700
So if doing the math, You should
lose about 335 feet of a

865
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:46,500
building that's full most 1500
feet high so most definitely you

866
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:50,700
are going to see 90% of the
skyline of that City because

867
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:53,000
most of those buildings are 800
plus feet high.

868
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:57,400
Well not just that but also if
you you also got to think about

869
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,100
I can't remember which which
Theory theorem it is but there's

870
00:52:00,300 --> 00:52:04,400
one of the Einstein's theories
of Relativity where he literally

871
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:08,700
talks about gravity pockets and
how light will bend around.

872
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,000
Sound sources of gravity.
And I understand, you know, Jeff

873
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,600
can sit there and say, gravity
is fake and whatnot and blah

874
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,200
blah.
But even in your episode, Dave,

875
00:52:17,300 --> 00:52:20,200
there was conversations about
how the thickest water is always

876
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:25,000
at the bottom, the, the easiest
water to move around and is at

877
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,000
the top of it, but then you even
go into other layers, right?

878
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,200
The air that we breathe at
ground level is much easier on

879
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,000
our body but as soon as we go
higher and higher and higher, it

880
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:41,100
becomes less dense and We can
expand and basically explode

881
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:44,600
from the outside in our, from
the inside out.

882
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,700
Where if we go to the deepest
parts of our ocean, will get

883
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:52,500
crunched like a tin can, and
that has to deal with gravity.

884
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:57,100
And gravity is just a word.
It's a word to describe an

885
00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:01,700
action, or describe a property
that we don't understand, right?

886
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,400
Even scientists will come out
and say, we don't understand

887
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,900
grab it, we know that
something's there, right?

888
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,700
Whether it be the electric
universe First that some people

889
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:15,000
believe in or something more
simpler as in like the standard,

890
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,100
quote, unquote definition of
what gravity is it exists,

891
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,100
right?
So when you look over, the

892
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,700
another thing too, is that I
just don't believe that

893
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:32,900
flat-earthers understand the
concept of pie, right 3.14.

894
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:39,000
And if they ever took a math
class, maybe they would A little

895
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,600
bit more about how pie works.
But basically that's the gist

896
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,600
of, you know, if you're standing
at Point a and you're looking at

897
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:52,300
point B, 50 miles away, it's not
an addition equation.

898
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:57,500
It's a multiplication equation
with decimals that are far

899
00:53:57,500 --> 00:54:03,100
beyond anybody, that even the
smartest people have

900
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,600
difficulties putting that
together without certain that.

901
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:16,300
Values, great.
So, but to get back into I don't

902
00:54:16,300 --> 00:54:17,500
know, man.
I feel like I'm just kind of

903
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:21,700
talking in circles here and then
we have a the the equation

904
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:25,100
before I go onto the before we
tap into what you wanted to say

905
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:30,200
about the flights, the equation
was something that I had seen.

906
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,100
It was the first time I'd ever
heard somebody that wasn't a

907
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:38,800
wasn't a flat earther kind of
give an opposition.

908
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:42,900
It was on the Michael starting
podcast and apparently you know

909
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,000
he's a pilot the other guy on
the show on the show was an F-18

910
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:51,900
pilot and they both said that
that equation is for calculating

911
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,900
a parabola, not a sphere.
And that he said so that is

912
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:02,200
entirely which which does make
sense because it goes into the

913
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,800
flights.
So the Earth, I mean, you see

914
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,100
it?
You've seen planes takeoff.

915
00:55:07,300 --> 00:55:10,900
I mean you guys have been around
even smaller Jets than than

916
00:55:11,100 --> 00:55:15,200
commercial commercial airlines.
They are, we are insignificantly

917
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:23,600
small compared to the realm that
were on or in or and the one of

918
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:28,400
the things that I've always
heard is that, you know, will if

919
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,200
the Earth was a sphere, wouldn't
the nose have to be pitched down

920
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,500
or else it fly into space?
And I think that that's The

921
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:38,800
bottom of the aircraft is always
relative to the center point

922
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:42,200
that it's that it's at.
So if the aircraft, you know,

923
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,400
obviously, if you bank, right
Bank left, it's going to turn.

924
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:51,700
But if you're going straight,
you're always the way that I

925
00:55:51,707 --> 00:55:54,800
described it was, you had a ball
and it's always going the same.

926
00:55:54,800 --> 00:56:00,700
It's not going to go straight
off into space which what's

927
00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:04,500
that, relative motion, you know,
but you guys would know more.

928
00:56:04,500 --> 00:56:07,800
You guys have been in Planes
quite a bit much more, but the

929
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,000
other argument is that you're
just like commercial pilots that

930
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,500
are like, yeah, it's fucking
flat and you're like, way way.

931
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,400
Like, like and then you got guys
that are like, I don't want to

932
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,800
talk about it.
So there is there is an argument

933
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,100
between both sides and let me
thinking a plane will just shoot

934
00:56:24,100 --> 00:56:25,600
off.
No, I don't think that's gonna

935
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,800
happen, but let's let's knock
this out of the way, right

936
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,200
Pilots.
Most of them are very smart

937
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,900
people.
Most Not all be out of a genetic

938
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,300
know.
You don't know.

939
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,900
Some of them have to be
good-looking somewhat.

940
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:46,500
Yeah, you don't have to be Tom
Cruise, some of them are have to

941
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:49,600
play volleyball, complete
idiot's, okay?

942
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:53,800
The amount of times, most of
them do a lot of drugs just

943
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:58,200
saying I wasn't on that out
there for everybody.

944
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:05,700
Um most of them don't can't they
don't have Common Sense.

945
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:09,600
Okay.
They have book sense and

946
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,200
instruments that tell them what
to do constantly and I'm not

947
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,500
just tell them what to do.
Constantly the thing is that

948
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:20,300
flying an aircraft is bar is
Barney down so much that a

949
00:57:20,300 --> 00:57:24,800
Layman should be able to go out
and do it right at some point.

950
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,600
You know, having a non
commercialized aircraft in every

951
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,800
household might be a thing and
it probably wouldn't be that

952
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:40,400
bad.
It's I've met some dumb fucking

953
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,100
Pilots man.
Especially in the military.

954
00:57:43,100 --> 00:57:47,000
I mean I'm sure that the
civilian sector is just as bad

955
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,100
if not worse.
The amount of people that

956
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:54,500
literally don't understand that
they have to flip a switch to

957
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:58,200
turn on.
The light is ridiculous or they

958
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,700
won't work and 0ff position.
It's like, huh?

959
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:05,100
It's a know, the switches in
0ff.

960
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:07,400
What does that mean?
How Times.

961
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,100
I've been asked, that is fucking
dump off.

962
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:11,900
Dude, off.
It means it's off.

963
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,700
No, you laugh, you laugh, but
it's serious.

964
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:20,100
I've gotten maintenance action
forms, maintenance request form

965
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:25,000
saying that this this box
wouldn't work and O FF mode.

966
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,600
And I'm like, is this is off,
that's why it wouldn't work.

967
00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:35,600
Okay, Joe makes it out of fly
again, not not all, Pilots are

968
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,100
fucking geniuses.
Okay, that's just number one.

969
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:42,500
Okay, they're people just like
you and me are like I mean

970
00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:47,700
there's there's the average Joe
out there, you know, believes in

971
00:58:47,700 --> 00:58:54,000
some form of fucking conspiracy
and my goal was to get into the

972
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:58,500
national forestry system so that
I can you know, use it as a way

973
00:58:58,500 --> 00:59:04,500
to hunt Bigfoot, right?
If somebody is a flat earther or

974
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:07,000
is interested in that subtopic
makes sense.

975
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,200
Be a fucking pilot, you know,
because you're just going to

976
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:15,100
expand upon your bone beliefs,
but to talk about the system's a

977
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:17,800
little bit inside of an
aircraft.

978
00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:21,200
The first thing that you a lot
of people need to understand is

979
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:27,800
that, you know, a lot of shows
will joke upon autopilot or use

980
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,500
the term autopilot autopilot
isn't something where you just

981
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:32,500
flip the switch and the aircraft
just goes, where you want it to

982
00:59:32,508 --> 00:59:34,200
go.
It's not like that.

983
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,600
Okay, your car can't even do Do
that right so.

984
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:42,100
Well, most cars can't do it.
I guess there's a lot of cars

985
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:45,900
that can do it now, but that's
not how it works, right?

986
00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:50,500
So autopilot basically is a
system that's actually called a

987
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:55,500
fetus or afcs and there's three
different kinds.

988
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,200
It depends on what aircraft
you're dealing with.

989
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,500
There's the digital and standard
form Daffy gets and softest,

990
01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:08,100
digital or standard.
Automatic flight control systems

991
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:11,900
and basically think of it like
this, okay, this is a system

992
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:15,900
that takes pressure readings
from all over the aircraft

993
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:18,800
through, what's called Static
ports, right?

994
01:00:19,300 --> 01:00:24,700
And through that they can put
the correct amount or the

995
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:29,700
correct hydraulic pressure into
certain portions of our certain.

996
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:33,300
What we call flight controls on
the aircraft flight controls,

997
01:00:33,300 --> 01:00:38,100
are your major controls you Four
directional flight, right?

998
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,100
You have your Rudders for your
left and right.

999
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:43,100
Have your elevators for your up
and down, and you have your

1000
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,600
ailerons for barrel rolls, right
side to side barrel rolls.

1001
01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:53,500
And when the aircraft is feeling
pressure, whether it's through

1002
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:56,100
Ram Air, which is the air that's
Force, upon the nose of an

1003
01:00:56,100 --> 01:01:04,000
aircraft in forward, flight or
barometric pressure issues, such

1004
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,700
as going through clouds or
thunderstorms or Turbulence and

1005
01:01:08,700 --> 01:01:13,100
then wind speed.
I mean, the amount of things

1006
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:18,200
that could be put onto an
aircraft that the pilot doesn't

1007
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:23,700
have to deal with is numerous.
And basically it the Afghans

1008
01:01:23,700 --> 01:01:27,200
system takes that away from the
pilot and automatically applies

1009
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,500
it to the aircraft itself, okay?
So as it's using all these

1010
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:34,500
different kinds of instruments,
whether their Gyros static

1011
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:38,400
ports, Altima Turfs, Barometers,
all kinds of different things

1012
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,000
it's reading what's going on
around the aircraft and it's

1013
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,300
putting the pressure into these
flight controls to keep it

1014
01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:52,200
stable at a specific altitude
altitude.

1015
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:56,200
Thank you.
So a lot of aircraft are set to

1016
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,300
a specific altitude.
And there's two different kinds

1017
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:01,600
of altitudes, there's one from
sea level and one from Land

1018
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:05,000
level, right?
So, a lot of a lot of Pilots

1019
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:12,200
will set it to To what's called
Ms. L which is mean sea level.

1020
01:02:12,300 --> 01:02:17,200
And then some are a lot of
Pilots will actually use AGL

1021
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,200
above ground level as two
different kinds of readings and

1022
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:22,600
above ground.
Level level is just a number

1023
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:29,100
that's relevant to MSC the the
the mean, sea level basically

1024
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:32,600
through satellites around the
planet that are reading, sea

1025
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,900
level.
They come up with a average sea

1026
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:40,200
level that's used as a number,
in an equation in all aircraft

1027
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:45,100
around the world.
And when they do that, that

1028
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:49,900
aircraft specifically stays at a
specific height above sea level.

1029
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,300
Okay, so if you're trying to get
to 30,000 feet, you push in the

1030
01:02:54,300 --> 01:03:00,700
MSC or the MSL, right?
Which changes Minutely every

1031
01:03:00,700 --> 01:03:05,800
day, right?
Because of title lunar tides and

1032
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,700
whatnot.
Sea levels in different areas of

1033
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:12,600
the world, but anyways, whatever
the average of is, of all of the

1034
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,100
sea level readings in the world,
that's number that you put in

1035
01:03:15,100 --> 01:03:22,300
for that day, then, as you're
flying your aircraft due to the

1036
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:27,100
altimeter measuring the altitude
of your aircraft above sea.

1037
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:32,700
Level is making these my new
changes every millisecond.

1038
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,900
Every second, every 30 seconds,
there's different breeds at

1039
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:39,600
different time, intervals, for
different things.

1040
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:43,800
But basically, what you're
feeling due to your perception

1041
01:03:43,900 --> 01:03:46,900
inside of an aircraft is that
it's going straight, but it's

1042
01:03:46,900 --> 01:03:50,300
not it's actually taking around
the curve.

1043
01:03:50,300 --> 01:03:52,800
And, you know, Dave, I'm not I'm
not talking to you specifically,

1044
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,400
I'm talking to people that Are
listening, that might be

1045
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:01,600
flattered if there's that are
using this as as a as a tool in

1046
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,900
their belt, it doesn't work that
way, okay?

1047
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:07,700
And the reason why we have this
deafness, which is, you know,

1048
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:10,300
kind of backs up a little bit
here too, is that if you didn't

1049
01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:14,000
have a FCS and you didn't have
the proper hydraulic pressure of

1050
01:04:14,008 --> 01:04:17,100
behind, your flight controls,
when you took off your wings

1051
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:21,300
with rip right off, okay?
If you don't have any anything

1052
01:04:21,300 --> 01:04:25,100
holding your your your arm out,
if you don't have, Your bones,

1053
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,200
your arm just flops down to the
size, the same thing with

1054
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,400
fucking aircraft, okay?
You got to have the you got to

1055
01:04:29,408 --> 01:04:33,300
have the hydraulic pressure.
I know that was long-winded but

1056
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:37,200
that is my explanation.
As to why that's a very silly

1057
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:39,600
think talk about when you're
flutter flutter.

1058
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,500
What exactly was that about
again?

1059
01:04:43,500 --> 01:04:47,800
I swear, I got so long series,
either the curvature and if the

1060
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:52,500
nose has to be pointed up
constantly, see when it down.

1061
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:54,900
So you don't go flying off, I
could have saved you. 20 minutes

1062
01:04:54,900 --> 01:04:57,400
says a stupid argument, any
flowering some says, it doesn't

1063
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,500
understand their own model.
The here's a problem and the

1064
01:05:00,500 --> 01:05:02,700
big, that one of the biggest
problems you have biggest

1065
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:06,000
proponents in Flat Earth, like
David Weiss believes that.

1066
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,100
And no, no, you absolutely,
dude, 100% Dad.

1067
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:13,400
I'm with him in one of the
biggest problems for any of

1068
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:17,300
these Niche conspiracy
communities, right?

1069
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:18,300
Because that's the problem,
right?

1070
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:20,400
When you talk about
conspiracies, in particular,

1071
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:24,200
it's so fractured within that
conduct Community, right?

1072
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,300
Any one of those Niche
communities inside of that,

1073
01:05:27,500 --> 01:05:30,600
dude.
The biggest Talking Heads of

1074
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,400
those that people have follow
and listen to even they say some

1075
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:37,100
of the stupidest shit, right?
So, that's the problem.

1076
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:40,300
The problem again, is that
people aren't getting what is

1077
01:05:40,300 --> 01:05:42,800
being said, and that's why I
said at the beginning, I don't

1078
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,700
want to get stuck in the weeds
because again, we'll do this for

1079
01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:49,200
days and days and days.
Talking about each individual

1080
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:52,400
little thing.
That why is it flatter?

1081
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,200
Why's it not flat.
The Point is the information

1082
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:01,100
that we have about what we live
on is filtered through something

1083
01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:04,000
that we you guys have already
said, 10 times, right?

1084
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,600
Some filter that we don't trust
in so many other ways and

1085
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,200
there's no way for us to verify
this outside of going through

1086
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:13,400
that filtered information.
That's all this comes down true,

1087
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:16,900
very true.
This concludes part one of our

1088
01:06:16,900 --> 01:06:19,100
Flat Earth conversation with
Declassified.

1089
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:23,200
Dave join us next week for part
2 and thank you for joining us

1090
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,300
down this path of the infinite
Rabbit Hole.

1091
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:26,000
Bye.