Skinwalker Ranch Part 1

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Hey, this is Jake from the
infinite Rabbit Hole.

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Leaving a voicemail while
listening to the Beast of Bray

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Road part 2 and you're listening
to the infinite rabbit hole.

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Hit record, I hit record.
I said are you ready?

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Everybody said, yes, I hit
record and you said hurry up.

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No wait wait no I'm fine go.
Okay, he's real good.

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You should turn down your gain
more.

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If you look at your sound waves,
there's cutting off the top of

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your audio was gonna move my
microphone in this way.

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Set better good?
Yes good.

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Yeah, that's better.
Welcome back to infinite Rabbit

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Hole where we don't know.
You don't know what you're

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doing.
We're fine.

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Listen, do nothing anymore.
It is unto himself, dude.

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Listen here, buddy.
Listen dude listen, dude.

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Come back.
Your pal guy.

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Right.
Can I do this now?

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Can I do the introduction?
Yes, yes we are.

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You ready fucking Jake?
Damn it.

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Okay, you're lucky I love you
all this abuse.

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Okay good.
Do it.

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Yes.
Part of the alphabet soup boys.

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Yeah, my glasses here anyways.
In Navajo lore.

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I can't take them seriously
right now.

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I'm just sitting here listening.
Shut up, guys.

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It's great everybody.
Shut up, everybody shut your

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mouth.
Beating cancer.

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That means you too.
Damn it.

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How am I supposed to do this
without laughing?

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You guys suck, you started it.
I did nothing.

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I normally go, you're wasting
time, I have 17 pages so Jeff

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Holmes - all right, it's a
great.

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Great comeback for you.
Yeah, welcome bear, leave.

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All this crap.
Inside the episode.

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No, yeah all of it.
The average listen time on this

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will be 30 seconds.
Danny will be our only listener

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all the way through.
I was just going to say Danny

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would love it.
All of it, right?

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Thanks for being true.
Danny, thank you.

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All right.
All right.

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I don't senior waveforms from my
record.

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Oh, mr.
Go, here we go.

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In Navajo lore, there is a
creature whose origin spawns

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from man.
A man of medicinal and spiritual

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practice who turned evil
throughout their Journeys.

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One that is said to be able to
reach this Pinnacle of witchery

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by taking a life of their own
bloodline.

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Among other heinous acts as
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This dark practitioner is known
to the Navajo as the ye now

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Belushi or more commonly
referred to as the skinwalker

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the E não Leu.
She translates to with it.

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He goes on all fours.
Referring directly to the

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skinwalkers, ability to
shape-shift into many animals.

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Known and unknown to man, one of
the most common forms.

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Skinwalker is said to shift into
is that of a wolf coyote, or an

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unknown?
Upright-walking canine of

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massive stature.
Yes, sometimes they are blamed

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for a local Bigfoot, sighting as
well.

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But today, we won't be diving
into the path of the skin walk.

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But rather down the large and
winding Corridor of a ranch in a

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Ewing to Basin of Utah.
That shares this dark witches,

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namesake a place.
That is the epicenter of

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creature.
Sightings UFO encounters.

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Spiritual paranormal
experiences, missing time

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portals into other dimensions
lost people, strange effects on

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humans, cattle mutilations
dancing, orbs of light.

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And many more today, we
celebrate two years of

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exploring, the world of the
strange and the unknown by

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finally visiting the 480 Acres.
Branch of Northeast Utah.

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Welcome back to infinite rabbit
hole.

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That's every bit of
concentration to not get through

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that without laughing.
I'm sure your, I see your audio

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hasn't gotten any less breathy.
It's a matter of great and days

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in such a few months.
I missed you guys insanely, you

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know, this.
But every episode and realized

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that we totally missed a moment,
we could have done this like sad

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emotional song and this like,
goodbye.

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Jeremy type thing acting like
you died and talking about how

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you're moving across country and
you left us like we missed it,

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you've been great.
Well, I'm back.

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I'm back everybody.
Back to the infinite rabbit

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hole.
Two years.

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Two years today, this episode
marks, the two-year anniversary

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of the infinite Rabbit Hole
podcast.

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Jake dude I'm gonna get a face
tattoo.

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Yes, congratulations man.
Although you took a good chunk

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of time away, you know but it's
whatever.

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Well, so did you yeah, when just
now proved it, I'll bring up the

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audio.
Well, this is my 100th episode

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on the infinite Rabbit Hole
podcast and just like I Did with

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the one-year anniversary, I
chose the topic for the two-year

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anniversary. chose a topic that
is, Hi Lee.

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Requested something that I've
probably been requested, most

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out of any topic other than
Bigfoot people want to hear

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Bigfoot from us and missing for
11 stuff.

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So today we're going to dive
into Skinwalker Ranch.

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West, what are you doing?
What is it?

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What is that?
What is, what is getting in the

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mood?
Yeah, the mood.

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Oh oh, oh man.
No, guys, it feels great.

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It really does.
I'm really excited to be back.

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You guys did a great job while I
was gone.

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I listened to every single
episode kid.

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Good job on that Disney episode
man.

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Thank you.
What a fucking job.

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Good job.
Good stuff.

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I'm glad you enjoy.
Thank you.

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Yeah.
Wes I haven't heard yours yet

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because it's not out at the
time.

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We're recording this but I'm
sure you did, terrible.

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Jake Giants was good, man.
I can't wait to hear what else

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you got there and of course,
Jeff.

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I really wish I was part of that
weather modification episode

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because I was arguing with you
in my truck.

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Political, he's like he's like
tone it down.

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No, no, no.
There was a couple times.

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There was a couple times.
And I was like, okay guys, calm

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down, calm the fuck down.
Seriously, I wouldn't, what are

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you guys doing?
But thought it went pretty good.

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Oh, no.
Which Wes I watched the

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idiocracy movie, I finally did.
And you know what?

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And I also watched The Hunger
Games series and I think that

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it's more like we're going to go
into a Hunger Games type thing

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then idiocracy, although I did
see it now, It's just like a

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it's a funny movie but I see the
pair of the Hide I think I guess

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I was literally going to say you
still have my mouth literally

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going to be a perfect mix of the
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I saw that all the super rich
are going to be like The Hunger

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Games and then all the people
living in the poor districts to

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show, you're gonna be like it's
gonna be like idiocracy just if

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you guys gotta you gotta watch
altered carbon.

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That's where we're going.
That's that's a, that's a great.

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Great show.
Absolutely love it.

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It's a show or a movie to show
on Netflix that's like 45.

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No, no.
You gotta watch it getting to

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end and you're going to be like,
whoa, yeah, I still need to

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watch this idiocracy movie.
We're hijacking.

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This episode.
We're just going to talk about

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shows that we like how much
idiocracy mirrors the real

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world.
Yep.

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Nope.
We're going to talk about

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Skinwalker Ranch, fine.
So all at once, what do you guys

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know about Skinwalker Ranch?
Not a lot.

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Yeah, about the same.
I know I feel like I know quite

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a bit because I've listened and
watched a few different.

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Like I listen to a few different
podcasts about it and also

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couple different shows covering
it.

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So I feel like I have a fairly
good Base of knowledge on what

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has happened there and what
continues to happen there.

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What's weird about it but I want
to hear what you got because

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there may be some juicy unknown
nuggets in there.

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Well yeah.
So I didn't post Malone went

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there.
He did he did.

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Yeah, unfortunately, we're not
talking about post-mortem.

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Today we're going to start at
the beginning with with the

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Skinwalker Ranch, I Two episodes
planned right now for this and I

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mean, if the listeners like it,
I can dive more into some of the

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current stuff, but all the
current stuff is out there,

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right?
So you have the show.

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Geez, what's the name of that
show?

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It's on the History Channel.
It's about Skinwalker Ranch,

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great, and they have a team
that's conducting studies.

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Actively on the ranch and their
own, like their third or fourth

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season.
I think I watch that.

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I think I might have been when
the shows I watch.

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T' Secrets at Skinwalker Ranch
or something like that.

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It's not.
Yeah, that sounds familiar.

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It's a good show.
It's decent.

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Like there's some pretty cool
stuff that happens and I'm

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curious as to how much of it is
just like, you know, staged.

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Yes.
You had the title, right.

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The secrets of Skinwalker Ranch
started in 2020 and continues

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till today, so if anybody that's
listening to this show, wants

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some more of the more current
stuff on The ranch I would

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recommend going there.
We're going to dive into the

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background of it and really
delve into some of the history

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that you just can't find by
watching a TV show.

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Right now.
Of course, there are multiple

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different documentaries and
books on the subject that you

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can pick up or turn on and get a
similar dose of Knowledge from,

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but you won't get our points of
views and our opinions, which is

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we all know.
That's why you're here.

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R4 definitely.
So without further Ado, you guys

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ready to roll ready?
Yes.

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Let's write those as we go
maybe.

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So for those that are watching
on YouTube Wes is background.

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That is the art that he does.
And obviously I was not also has

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some Skinwalker Ranch style,
Dart work, very nice and kind of

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said the Orange.
Mmm.

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Yeah, set the mood.
I think that shirt does it for

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everybody.
This one.

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Yeah, I actually love that.
Sure, it's great.

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All right, speaking of shit, I
gotta say I got a shout-out just

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Kramer shirt.
It's fucking rad, dude.

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Metal bra.
Oh yeah, kiss me Jeff.

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Yeah, well as well.
Okay, that's a little much.

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Now let's just carry on.
There's a lady in the room, what

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you guys do with each other is
what don't leave me out of it.

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Alright, anyways, After this,
we'll all go and rub mustaches

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will be good.
Yeah.

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Well you're not be doing that.
Have fun.

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I'm out.
The earliest written

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documentation of strangeness
goes back to the 1860s.

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When the Mormon leader Brigham
Young led, the church has

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followers West to try and Escape
further religious persecution.

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After the assassination of
Joseph Smith with the church is

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found One of the colonies that
were established after Young's

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push to the West was based in
the now, famous corner of the

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Uintah Basin.
Now known as Skinwalker Ranch

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here, the local Navajo hunters
and tribes, people shared

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stories of their local Legends
and lore by the 1880s.

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The Mormons also began telling
stories of their own experiences

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with the skinwalkers throughout
the basin. when miners began to

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show up in 1885, the Harvest the
basins plethora of minerals and

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metals the skinwalker became a
full-blown phenomena with old

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and new beliefs, mixing into a
terrifying, concoction The

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Uintah Basin is well known as a
UFO, hotspot and ranks amongst

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the most active areas in the
world for UFO activity, the

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absolute earliest recording of a
possible UFO sighting came in

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1776.
When Sylvester Velez day

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Escalante more famously known as
father Escalante the discoverer

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of the Grand Canyon wrote in his
journal.

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When camped at El, Rey about a
strange Fireball in the sky.

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That flew over the camp.
Beginning in the 1950s.

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The first modern reports of such
craft were being documented in

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1951.
A science Professor from the

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University of Utah by the name
of Junior Hicks, reported,

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seeing a classic cigar-shaped
craft, hovering over Skinwalker

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Ranch.
Hicks was joined by 30 students

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at the time and all of them
claimed to have witnessed the

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UFO that day this event,
propelled Hicks and to being the

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first serious researcher of the
ranch Through his research, he

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was able to uncover.
Many stories from locals of

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unknown, flying objects over the
base.

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Junior Hicks would go on to have
his reports documented by way of

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being published in a book
titled.

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The Utah UFO display by Frank be
Salsbury, PhD, every walk of

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person has reported seeing
incredible things in the sky

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surrounding, the Uintah Basin.
And by the 1960s cattle,

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mutilations hit the scene, a
phenomenon In all over the world

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cattle, mutilations are exactly
what it sounds like.

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A corpse of a bovine is left in
such a way that resembles

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mutilation from unknown sources
by mysterious means and of

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course creatures have been
spotted in the Basin for years

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as well creatures such as
Bigfoot, quadrupedal human, like

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reptiles large.
Upright walking canines and

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other mysterious animals have
been reported to frequent the

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area, making the Uintah Basin,
not only a hot spot for UFOs.

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But High strangeness in general.
Welcome to Skinwalker Ranch

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everyone.
It's your turn now.

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So first question.
When are we going?

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When yeah, thank you for the
introduction.

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First and foremost.
Oh oh thanks kid.

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Thanks for the invite.
We are going to start off.

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Let's see.
We're going to start off with

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the Sherman's and about 94.
That was a okay.

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I say nothing.
Cuz I know a little bit about

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the ranch but I don't want to
spoil nothing that you're about

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to talk about.
So I'm graduating.

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But yeah, today we're going to
dive really heavily into the

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Sherman's and then on the next
episode, we will dive into the

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need Steam.
Which will get a little bit more

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familiar with them later.
Good to go.

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Good to go.
All right.

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According to Keller, an app's
book hunt for the skinwalker,

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the Sherman's, lived in New
Mexico before moving to the

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property known as Skinwalker
Ranch, Terry was a very good

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razor of prized Angus Cattle.
He took pride in his work and

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really wanted to expand his
talent on a better, chunk of

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land for the needs of his herd.
The Sherman's collectively were

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looking to leave the much more
populated area that they called

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Home in New Mexico.
And we're surprised to find a

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very large chunk of land for a
really good price in the

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northeastern corner of Utah.
But this would turn out to be a

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decision that they would
eventually regret before the

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Sherman's were discovered, as
the family who reported all of

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the strangeness of the ranch,
they were known as the Gorman's.

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In a book published in 2005, by
the name of hunt for the

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skinwalker by calm, a Keller and
George Knapp.

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The Sherman's were referred to
as the gourmands for the

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protection of their identities.
So, yes, anyone listening to

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this episode and are
experiencing are expecting to

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hear about the Gorman's?
Well, you are, but I will be

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referring to them as their
actual names.

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The Sherman's, as they did come
out publicly since the

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publishing of this Famous book
that documented the history of

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their time on the ranch in 1994,
the Sherman's bought the

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property and really thrusted the
phenomenon that is Skinwalker

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Ranch into the Limelight of the
strange and unusual.

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The Sherman's purchased the
ranch from Kenneth John and

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Edith child Myers.
The original owners, the Myers

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family originally purchased land
in 1933 which consisted of 160

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Acres over the period of their
ownership.

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They would On their property to
the current 480, Acres, that now

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belongs to the ranch, they spent
their time focused on the land

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and never had any children.
Kenneth passed away in 1987 and

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Edith continue to live on the
ranch alone until her death in

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March of 1994, which opened the
opportunity for the Sherman's to

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purchase it. unfortunately there
is not much recorded about the

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Myers family's time on the ranch
but when the Sherman's finally

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moved in, Excuse me,
unprofessional.

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They were under, they were
understandably, shocked to find

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locks and deadbolts throughout
the house, but that wasn't the

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strangest thing.
About the situation, the locks

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were on both the inside and
outside of every door window and

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closet of the ranch, At each end
of The Farmhouse, large steel

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rings were embedded into the
walls with large steel chains.

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Hanging off of them.
In the contract for the

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property, there was one very
strange Clause built-in.

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That can easily be found in
public records.

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That was that there was to be no
digging on the property, unless

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the previous sellers were
properly notified.

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But the strangeness didn't end
there.

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So, we've been introduced to the
Sherman family.

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I got a question about these
locks, man.

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How do you get locks on both
sides of all the doors,

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including closets.
How do you lock the inside?

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And then long unless you're
trying to lock something out?

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If you're trying to protect
yourself, it's not necessarily

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meant to have both unlock the
same time.

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It's for when you're inside you
lock them, okay?

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And when you're outside the
house, I was thinking.

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In my mind, I'm picturing like
the doors were all locked from

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God's know there was just locks
On tree inside and outside of

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all windows doors and closets.
Well, the skinwalker locked the

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other side.
Well yeah, yeah, knock twice for

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a lobbyist three times for
another.

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Yeah woman of her Jeff wasn't
there.

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Dead bolts on all the cabinets
and stuff also.

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So I found a source that said
that as well, but the two other

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sources only listed the Doors,
closets and windows.

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So I just went with that.
So possibly are you going to

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talk about the cabinet?
So then things that okay.

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Nope.
Is there more to the closet and

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whatnot?
There's a lot more that probably

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my question is why are we
bolting the closets that's why

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I'm asking is there more is
there more to like a re going to

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be given more about the closets
here or is that getting?

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We're going to be given more
about the happening.

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On the ranch that you will
probably expand in the closet.

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Yeah, I mean, there may or may
not be things that happen on a

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ranch that would make you want
to lock something out.

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In the closet.
Yeah, well 71 I could get hiding

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in the closet wanting to try to
go to the closet but like, I

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don't, if it's already outside
of the house and all the doors

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and windows are already locked.
What's the purpose of the

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closets?
We'll just never know.

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Also, why did they change the?
Why did these people come out

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with their names after a really
famous book is dropped.

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If this isn't a ridiculous,
made-up story, because I know

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anyone that people are sad like
Hill, right?

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Right.
But comes out and then suddenly

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they're like, okay now we'll
drop our names.

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No, no, okay?
So here's here's the reality of

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things, okay?
We're going to kind of skip

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ahead, a little bit to kind of
Don't answer Jake's question

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because it is a good question,
right?

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The Sherman's actually came out
after a specific event that

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we'll talk about later and said
this is happening on my

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property.
Okay I'm selling my property I

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don't want it.
Somebody come and take this they

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sold it for a good low price, it
wasn't like a money-making

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property for them.
They lost a ton of money in

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this, which will get into No,
you know when we talk start

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talking about cattle mutilations
and stuff like that, These Guys

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these the Sherman's we're
raising prized cattle, okay?

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There were they were raising,
heifers and Angus and all kinds

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of really good stuff and they
lost a total of 14 different

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cat-cows or bowls in this
process while they own the ranch

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and a few more, when the needs
team on the ranch.

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We'll get into that whole
relationship a little bit later,

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but just know that each one of
these cows were upwards of a

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couple thousand dollars worth,
right /.

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So it's not like I mean these
guys spent me if this was all

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just a cover or seen you know
something where they were trying

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to get famous off of They spent
a lot of money doing it.

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First of all, second of all,
they came out with their own

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name when they came out with
the, their story, to the

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newspaper, which will dive into
later, Keller and nap.

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When they wrote the book, Keller
is actually a part of the Ned's

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team.
Here's, here's the cover of the

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book, by the way, George Knapp.
This is George.

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Knapp says, this is George
Knapp.

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This is the cover of the book
hunt for the skinwalker.

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Keller was a part of the NIT.
Team.

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And as a way to kind of protect
Sherman, they called them

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Gorman's and I mean it was never
really a secret when the book

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came out there was this huge
thing about, why didn't you just

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call him Sherman and whatnot?
But Keller really wanted to try

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to help Terry who they became
pretty good friends.

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While Keller was in the mid
steam, you know, I just didn't

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want to bring more attention to
his friend, but he wanted to get

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Skinwalker Ranch out into the
Limelight because he felt that

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this place needed to be
investigated for properly.

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Did the sure And then go and
make their own book in which

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they could have gotten more
revenue from to comp the loss of

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their house.
Nope.

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Okay.
They might not be fake.

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They they moved 25 miles away
which again, will touch on a

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little bit later after they sold
the house and never had a

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problem again.
They never had any kind of

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paranormal, maybe some UFOs in
the sky because of the general

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area that they lived in is very
very hot for UFOs and such but

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nope, never put out a
documentary themselves.

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Never wrote a book.
They just wanted to get back to

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Ranchi.
Okay, I'm on board.

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Okay.
I need some clarification

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though.
Just, you know, I'm on the right

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track here.
You said that in the contract

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for the house, they couldn't do
any digging without notifying

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the previous owner.
So, I just want to make sure

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this was a contract signed by
the Sherman's.

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They could not dig without
letting the Myers.

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No.
Actually it was the the wife

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Meyer that can't read Judith,
right?

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Judith Myers she does whatever
yes maybe it was either.

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Sorry, I'm not looking at my
notes.

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Her brother was actually the
person who had the right to the

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property to say, okay.
So the Sherman's had to tell the

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brother if they were going to do
digging, okay, we're on the same

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page now and I don't go over
this but in one of my sources,

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That was the next question.
Yeah.

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Do we get more on the dirt?
Run on digging in the dirt?

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Well, you do, if you watch the
TV show, history are the the

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whatever Skinwalker Ranch on the
History Channel, probably won't.

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But I will keep that in mind.
I've actually watched the first

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two season, I haven't seen the
third season yet, but they do

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heavily talk about the issue
with digging on the property.

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What a weird thing to put in a
contract, is that even Legal

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like, ooh, I'm selling you this
house and I'm going to tell you

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what you're allowed to do on it
like techno.

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This is my nothing in the
contract.

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Yeah.
But if you don't mind me Jeremy,

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same in the show.
When they talk about the

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digging, they basically just say
any time anyone has ever dug on

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the property.
Bad bad stuff happens.

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Yes, and so like in the show
like the people that work on the

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ranch they're like terrified of
like anyone attempting to dig

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anything.
Because so if they ever seen

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decided, we want to put a fence
along this side of the property,

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nobody's going to do it because
they have to dig into the

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ground.
I don't know if it's so it if

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you watch the show, it's more
like heavy digging like taking a

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like excavations.
Yes.

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Yeah.
They're gonna pull up.

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All the dead bodies.
Yeah.

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Okay.
For at the end of episode 2,

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when we start talking about what
this could possibly be, I think

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I'm going to make some
connections and I'm sure Jeff.

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There too.
Jeff was just for Sabrina.

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All right, thank you.
Yeah, you're welcome.

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Okay, all my questions have been
answered.

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We're good now.
Are you ready to roll?

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Get ready.
All right, soon after moving

455
00:29:29,300 --> 00:29:32,200
into the Myers family ranch, the
Sherman's became accustomed to

456
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,200
seeing a very large wolf on the
property.

457
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,800
Their first encounter with the
creature happened while Terry

458
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,900
Gwen.
Their children and Terry's.

459
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:44,900
Father were working out in one
of the fields when out of the

460
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:47,700
corner of his eye.
Terry spotted something coming

461
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:51,500
down the hill in his direction
that looked oddly canine in

462
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,700
nature as dog creature.
Got closer.

463
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:58,800
Terry and his father were able
to determine able to determine

464
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,700
that.
This was, no typical dog coyote

465
00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:05,900
or out of place wolf.
This creature was way too large

466
00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:10,300
to be any of those eventually
the creature ran To Terry and

467
00:30:10,300 --> 00:30:12,500
his family with a docile
posture.

468
00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:16,100
Terry felt so comfortable around
the creature with his family

469
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:19,600
that he was able to reach out
and run his hands through its

470
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,700
dense.
Gray fur and described the

471
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:27,200
creature as being extremely
powerful, but this friendly

472
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,700
posture wouldn't be the case for
long as terios running his hand,

473
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:34,100
through the wolf's fur.
The creature took off extremely

474
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,800
quickly into the Corral that
they kept their cattle in and

475
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,200
stuck his head in between the
metal.

476
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:42,100
Bars and bit down on the head of
the closest calf.

477
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:45,300
The wolf began, pulling the
screaming, calf through the

478
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:49,900
cages, bars and response, Terry
ramps, a wolf and begin punching

479
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:53,300
kicking the creatures ribs,
which proved to be pointless.

480
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:57,800
Next, Terri grabbed, a nearby
baseball bat and swung as hard

481
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,300
as he could repeatedly onto the
top of the creatures head,

482
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,200
again, with no response from the
canine Terry's.

483
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:09,800
Next option was yell to his son
to get his Magnum, this Large

484
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,900
handgun was in Terry's truck.
And his son quickly returned to

485
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:16,900
his father with a gun in hand.
Terry took a quick aim in

486
00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,500
blasted several direct hits into
the side of the creature.

487
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:23,700
The first three shots, surely
hit the creature but failed to

488
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:29,400
leave any wound or effect.
T', the fourth shot, Terry, put

489
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,400
the barrel against the creature
and at point-blank range fired

490
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,200
another round into its side.
This time the wolf, let go of

491
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,100
the calf and turn to face Terry
himself mr.

492
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,700
Sherman.
Then raised the gun and shot the

493
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:47,900
creature.
Once more in the chest, again,

494
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,200
seemingly unfazed by the
handgun.

495
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,300
The wolf turned around and
simply walked away without a

496
00:31:53,308 --> 00:31:57,200
single visible wound.
The calf, surprisingly still

497
00:31:57,300 --> 00:32:01,800
Alive rushed to the rest of the
bovines in the Corral bleeding.

498
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,800
Loudly with blood rushing from
several locations around its

499
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,700
head.
The large wolf stared at Terry

500
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:12,700
with its light blue eyes from
about 10 feet away as he raised

501
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:17,100
the 357 and shot another round
in to where he thought.

502
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:21,900
The animal's heart would be
seemingly unfazed again, Terry

503
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,500
asked his son to get his
thirty-aught-six.

504
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,400
The boy returned from the house
with a firearm and Terry, sent

505
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:33,200
another round at the animal
head, on this time, the impact

506
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,900
made the creature recoil about 5
feet, but still just stood there

507
00:32:37,900 --> 00:32:40,000
and stared at Terry and his
family.

508
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,500
Terry felt a cold sweat come
over him.

509
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:45,200
This animal should be as good as
dead by now.

510
00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:48,900
He had unloaded five bullets
from his Magnum and one from his

511
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,600
rifle.
Terry raised, the rifle once

512
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,500
more and fired another shot into
the creatures chest.

513
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,700
This time there was an audible
thump and a clear chunk of Flesh

514
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:02,000
missing from the animal
shoulder, the chunk of Flesh and

515
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,900
fur, lay on the ground, near the
creature.

516
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,000
The wolf creature slowly,
retreated after a brief, pause

517
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,600
from the impact, the family
watches.

518
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,500
The animal disappeared into the
Treeline, bordering their

519
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,700
property with only a pathway of
all tracks.

520
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:19,400
Proving it ever existed this
would cause Terry and his son to

521
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,500
pursue the creature after
reloading their Arsenal, but the

522
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,800
track suddenly disappeared,
enter.

523
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:28,900
Third, suddenly entered at a
random spot, a few feet into the

524
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:32,200
tree line, the tracks of Simply
disappeared, this was their

525
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:36,400
official introduction into the
real anomalies of their new

526
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,700
home, but far from their last.
After the first encounter with

527
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:44,700
the large wolf creature, when
Sherman Terry's wife had another

528
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:47,700
run-in with the same creature.
As she was arriving at home one

529
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:51,500
day as she re-entered her car
from opening, the gate to their

530
00:33:51,500 --> 00:33:54,100
driveway.
She noticed the large gray, wolf

531
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:57,800
standing 30, Away from her
passenger, side door behind

532
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,100
this.
Wolf, was another large, black

533
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,100
wolf who stay a far distance
away.

534
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:05,900
She quickly pushed a pedal down
and took off for the house.

535
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,600
No matter how fast she could
drive the creature.

536
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,800
Maintain The Uncanny ability to
stay close to her car.

537
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:15,900
This continued for quite a
while, before the creature

538
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:19,500
veered off and went off in
another Direction, This

539
00:34:19,500 --> 00:34:22,699
encountered LED Gwen to drop by
the local office of tribal

540
00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:27,100
Affairs to report the encounter.
The tribal Affairs officials

541
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,000
told Miss Sherman that all
wolves in the area were killed

542
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,600
off in 1929.
And that there have been no such

543
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,699
sightings since their answer to
her reports were that it was

544
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:41,500
most likely a stray dog or
coyote.

545
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:50,300
Dude, that's terrifying.
To be honest with you to unload

546
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,199
into something like that and
literally have no effect.

547
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,200
That's terrifying.
Yeah, because those are big

548
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,900
rounds, dude, that through
wasn't playing.

549
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,700
But it's weird to me that the
Magnum wouldn't have any effect.

550
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:11,100
T', but the 30 odd 6 would knock
this thing back, five feet.

551
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:16,500
So for that, you need to know a
little bit about the lore of

552
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:25,200
skinwalkers.
Right, a skinwalker can it's

553
00:35:25,207 --> 00:35:28,900
hard to say, right?
So a skinwalker has areas of

554
00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:31,100
their body when they're in
animal form that cannot be

555
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:36,800
harmed.
So, to get a little bit of

556
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,500
background in this can walk
without going, too far, because

557
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:42,600
I've already introduced quite a
bit of it and I don't I want to

558
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,000
save it for a natural skin,
walker episode, just know that

559
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,000
there are certain parts of the
body.

560
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,500
A wall.
A skinwalker is in the form of

561
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:58,400
an animal that is impervious to
being injured.

562
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,500
Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't
start, you know, because I have

563
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:10,000
a 357 Magnum, and if I put
because I do, I counted six

564
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,700
shots.
But regardless if I name, if I

565
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:18,100
shot this thing six times and it
didn't do anything.

566
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:20,700
And then I shot it with a third
out, six.

567
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:26,100
And then it, and then it showed
some visible signs on the second

568
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:29,000
one.
I wouldn't, then go take my

569
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,900
rifle and Son and go
gallivanting into the brush to

570
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:36,000
go chasing down.
I just let it go and be like,

571
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,300
everyone get the F inside the
house against.

572
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,100
I personally wouldn't have even
sent my son to go get the second

573
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:44,400
gun.
I would have been like now,

574
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,900
let's get the fuck out of here.
Like then the house.

575
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:58,500
Let's go walk on the cabinet's.
I mean, yeah.

576
00:36:58,500 --> 00:37:00,800
But you can buy more cattle but
not if you're Dead.

577
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,900
Yeah but you gotta sell the, you
know, the cattle you have now to

578
00:37:05,908 --> 00:37:10,100
make money, you know like I
don't know, II can understand

579
00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:13,800
why he went after it.
You know he want to he thought

580
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,000
at you know after shooting it
with the 357 and they going

581
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,600
after it with the
thirty-aught-six that he

582
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,200
thought.
Okay, maybe now it's injured,

583
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:26,000
maybe it's close to being dead.
He just needs to finish the job,

584
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,800
you know?
But I mean, from what I, what

585
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,400
from what I've read and in heard
about that, that particular

586
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,300
story, you know, the size of it
was massive, you know that alone

587
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:48,000
would have liked had me shittin
bricks, you know like so sure so

588
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,500
there was in in this book hunt
for the skinwalker, there was a

589
00:37:53,500 --> 00:38:01,000
part that I didn't include where
when when was was Back into her

590
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,300
car from unlocking, the gate.
I'm tour driveway where this

591
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:08,600
thing when it was standing that
think they said 30 feet away,

592
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:12,800
the thing had to hunch down so
that it could properly see her

593
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,900
inside of her car.
That's how big these things were

594
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:19,800
and this this is the last the
shoulder.

595
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:22,000
Yeah this is this is the last
time we're going to talk about

596
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:27,800
it tonight but this is not the
only case of seeing a one of

597
00:38:27,808 --> 00:38:31,700
these creatures there.
There may May or may not be more

598
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:35,200
in the next episode.
So there will be okay.

599
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:41,300
Yeah, I don't know what kind of
car she was in so we haven't

600
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,200
like a frame of reference.
No, no.

601
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:50,700
It was a town car on 35 in this
is it wasn't an old-school Mini

602
00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,200
Cooper.
It's the size of a go-kart or,

603
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,400
you know, a pickup truck.
Yeah, yeah, no.

604
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,100
I mean, I don't know in my mind
like when I read about that and

605
00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:06,000
what not, I pictured in my mind
something like as big as like a

606
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,300
grizzly bear or bigger, you
know.

607
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:15,100
And if I ever came across a
grizzly bear in the wild, Yeah,

608
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,000
shoot.
If I come across a wolf, the

609
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,800
sound of buzzing coming across a
black bear is terrifying.

610
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,400
Okay.
I could only imagine coming

611
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,000
across a grizzly, bear running
up on Clifford, the Big Red Dog.

612
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,200
I mean, I have like, theories on
what skinwalkers really are, but

613
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,600
I don't know if I want to get
into that just yet just because

614
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,500
I don't know what all you're
going to present.

615
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,900
So much for Ali's, which
probably save that until the end

616
00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:39,100
of episode two.
Okay.

617
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,800
The from the hollow kind of
weight that it depends, it

618
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,800
depends on what your thoughts
are because there are there's

619
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,200
gonna be some other stuff that
comes up in this episode, okay?

620
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:51,100
All right.
Well fuck me then Jeff.

621
00:39:51,100 --> 00:39:55,300
Okay yeah thanks.
All right, the only other thing

622
00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:59,100
I wanted to say was again about
the size like everyone's trying

623
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,900
to pass it off as a stray dog or
coyote, but there's coyotes

624
00:40:02,900 --> 00:40:05,200
aren't that big nor is a stray
dog.

625
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,700
Ugh.
I mean unless you're talking

626
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:09,300
about like a newfoundlander but
who's leaving a newfoundlander

627
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:13,700
as a stray right?
But like I don't know this thing

628
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:16,900
is going to be huge and compared
to a coyote or a stray dog.

629
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:20,900
I don't I don't think that's
even an equal comparison.

630
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,500
I mean it's exactly the same
they do the same thing to people

631
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:26,600
and they see a Bigfoot sighting.
Hmm.

632
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,600
They're like oh it was probably
a black bear and it says like

633
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,300
do.
This thing was 12 feet tall and

634
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:33,900
they're like there was probably
a black bear, you know, so it's

635
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:36,500
the same stuff.
Same reaction.

636
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,300
Yeah, same same.
Same but different, but yeah.

637
00:40:39,700 --> 00:40:42,600
But there was multiple people
like the whole family saw this

638
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,700
thing.
Yeah, that's what makes it more.

639
00:40:44,700 --> 00:40:46,400
And they all have the same
story.

640
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,300
They all described it exactly
the same.

641
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,500
Yeah.
Which makes it even more, you

642
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:57,600
know, authentic, you know,
Mike's quick side note, if

643
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,700
anybody, you know, if you guys
are listening to this, or the

644
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:03,700
host here are like you know
what?

645
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:06,000
This is sounds like a pretty
cool little Topic.

646
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,300
There's actually a Hollywood
movie made just called

647
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:14,200
Skinwalker Ranch.
Not bad, really not.

648
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,000
I actually really enjoyed the
movie and they do dive into all

649
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,500
of this strange stuff.
The wolf is in there UFO's,

650
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:29,500
ghost kids, it's all in there,
but it doesn't necessarily

651
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:32,300
follow that.
The story that's actually

652
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:36,000
outlined in history.
It's just it's a Hollywood

653
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,600
production but it's good.
I actually really enjoyed the

654
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,600
move.
Throwing it out there.

655
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,800
Put it on your watch list.
I recommend it.

656
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,200
Ready to roll.
Yes.

657
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:51,500
All right.
The next strange experience

658
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:55,100
happened again to Terry but
Terry wasn't alone.

659
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:59,000
This time either he was with his
son and his nephew as they

660
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,800
witnessed what looked like the
headlights of an RV parked in

661
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,300
the distance as they walk
towards the lights to ask,

662
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,900
whoever it was to please move
off the Sherman property, the

663
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,900
lights began to back up that a
pace that seemed to mimic the

664
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:14,600
speed of their forward
progression.

665
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,600
This left Harry thinking that
whoever it was, they were

666
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,700
watching them with binoculars
and reversing to stay a certain

667
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:26,300
distance away.
So the men began to run at what

668
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:28,100
they thought were headlights of
an RV.

669
00:42:28,700 --> 00:42:31,900
It was at this moment that Terry
and the boys witness the lights,

670
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:35,600
lift off the ground, and land, a
short distance behind where it

671
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,500
was previously at Terry, thought
that it couldn't be real and

672
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:43,400
began sprinting at the RV this
time, the object lift it

673
00:42:43,408 --> 00:42:46,600
completely off the ground and
flew backwards over the top of

674
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,700
some olive trees to its rear
Terry.

675
00:42:49,700 --> 00:42:52,900
In the boys got their first
really good glimpse of what the

676
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:56,100
object looked like.
And after the event Terry would

677
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:59,000
go on to describe the object as
looking like a very large

678
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,900
refrigerator with one white
light in the front and a red

679
00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:06,900
beacon in the back.
All of the boys also described

680
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:10,600
it as completely silent and
specifically told, how there

681
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,400
were no breaking engine sounds
or noises caused by the weight

682
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,600
of the object on the ground.
This event would keep Terry's

683
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,900
nephew from ever returning to
the ranch again and just like

684
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,700
the wolf-like creature has
flying refrigerator.

685
00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:27,400
Would return the second time, it
was spotted Terry and his wife

686
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,600
were out walking the property
when both of them turned around

687
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,300
and reaction to a loud metallic
scraping sound.

688
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:37,000
And once again saw the
headlights in the distance Terry

689
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,000
and Gwen began a methodical test
by walking slowly in spurts

690
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:44,600
towards the lights and every
time they began their progress,

691
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,300
the lights will lift off of the
ground and land a short distance

692
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:51,500
way even though the couple were
playing a modest game of

693
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:56,700
cat-and-mouse with this own
unknown, Check Terry began to

694
00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:59,600
get quite upset at the thought
that someone was playing games

695
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:03,900
with him on his own property.
This led to him yelling who the

696
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:07,400
hell do they think they are just
as Terry all this and the

697
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,100
direction of the lights the
strange metallic sound alarmed

698
00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:12,800
from behind them and the couple
turned around.

699
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,200
There was nothing there and when
they turn back towards the

700
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:22,100
lights, it left.
One thing to note after these

701
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:26,800
stories of a large flying
refrigerator shaped craft in

702
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:30,500
this time frame an Audi
classified aircraft known as the

703
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:33,800
tacit Blue from the company.
Northrop, Grumman was supposedly

704
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,000
being tested at the relatively
close secret military facility

705
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,900
in Nevada, known famously is
Area, 51.

706
00:44:40,900 --> 00:44:43,200
The tacit blue was commonly
described as looking like a

707
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,200
flight giant flying
refrigerator, but of course,

708
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,800
this was a plane and would not
be able to conduct.

709
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,400
Such Maneuvers that a helicopter
would be better fit to do.

710
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,900
So I know I've got to Naval
Aviation Airedales here.

711
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:01,000
Right yourself included.
Three.

712
00:45:01,900 --> 00:45:05,000
We are girls here.
What do we think is?

713
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000
I don't know.
It seems to me that if they were

714
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:14,700
testing a top-secret aircraft at
Area 51 and they're trying to

715
00:45:14,707 --> 00:45:18,300
keep it a secret, by testing it
at Area 51 they wouldn't be just

716
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:23,100
randomly flying around this
branch and Utah, you know?

717
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,100
I don't know that.
That just seems.

718
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:31,700
Not the way to go to keep it a
secret.

719
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:38,300
I know sure what about a
Cargobob part right before the

720
00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:43,000
helicopter is very square-shaped
because it's made to lift up

721
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:48,000
shipping containers.
I mean, maybe maybe but how the

722
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,200
wiring loud?
Oh yeah.

723
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:54,200
Well, they're very loud, but
very, I mean, we've seen from

724
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,300
other episodes that we've done
that involved.

725
00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:01,100
What we suspected to be military
aircraft, that often times.

726
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,500
They were in the locations that
they were in.

727
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:09,500
We suspected to gauge the
reaction of the people and

728
00:46:09,500 --> 00:46:13,200
stuff.
Maybe this could be along the

729
00:46:13,207 --> 00:46:20,600
lines of that maybe, you know,
it just Appeared to be square

730
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,400
shaped refrigerator shaped in
the darkness with the silhouette

731
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,800
behind it because of the angles
and edges and stuff.

732
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,900
Maybe they're full of crap.
I don't know.

733
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:36,900
You know, I would assume that
something more box-shaped would

734
00:46:36,900 --> 00:46:42,200
be very less than aerodynamic.
So I can't imagine that it would

735
00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:52,400
Unless the, unless the objective
was for anti-radar which you

736
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,500
know, that's why we have jets
these days, they have all kinds

737
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:59,100
of crazy angles on them is to
deflect radar and all sorts of

738
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:02,600
stuff, right?
But in the time frame, I don't

739
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,500
know how big of a deal that was
or how much that was being

740
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:09,700
researched and stuff.
So, Chalk it up to.

741
00:47:11,100 --> 00:47:15,200
Who knows what?
I guess this was in the 90s.

742
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,900
Yes this happened sometime after
94.

743
00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:25,200
I mean we had we had aircraft
that you know like the F-117

744
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,800
whatnot that had a lot of sharp
angles and whatnot to disperse

745
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:34,400
radar.
You know back then we knew about

746
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,500
that but something shaped like a
fridge, seems like it would go

747
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:40,800
against that.
You know, Concepts?

748
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:42,900
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.

749
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:49,000
And with the way the movements
of this thing was described and

750
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:53,300
and how often they saw it and
how interacted with them, it

751
00:47:53,300 --> 00:47:58,600
leads me to believe that it
wasn't Military aircraft, you

752
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,300
know.
So I don't want to like force a

753
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:06,100
connection for anybody here
worship, but there was, there

754
00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:10,800
was something that really stuck
out to me that will come up a

755
00:48:10,808 --> 00:48:16,700
little bit later, but This
sounded a lot like injured Colts

756
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:26,100
crafts.
Just saying, I don't know what I

757
00:48:26,100 --> 00:48:30,200
find interesting in a little odd
though is that there's a mix

758
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:35,800
between technological, you know,
like anomalies or sightings of

759
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:39,500
things and also what seemed to
be some sort of Cryptid beings

760
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:43,800
as well.
So it's very like it's Ira.

761
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,300
I think you already know where
my mind is going to go with this

762
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:52,200
but like I'm definitely thinking
that it's not what everybody

763
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,400
thinks.
Really.

764
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,700
Yeah.
I'm kind of interested.

765
00:48:57,700 --> 00:48:59,900
What do you think you want to
hear it now?

766
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,600
No.
When I would like a little more

767
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,600
time I would like a little more
time to develop this Theory as

768
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:11,100
we're going along here.
But yeah, I'm definitely leaning

769
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:15,400
in a very like this is not what
people think.

770
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,300
Well then back then I mean what
would people think saying

771
00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:23,900
something like that?
You know, you know I mean

772
00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:28,300
nowadays with everything, we
have everything that we take for

773
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:31,800
granted that it's just a normal
everyday part of life.

774
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:37,800
I mean back then and a 90s
seeing things like this was not

775
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,000
calm, not common, I mean even
like science fiction shows and

776
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,000
stuff like that movies.
Didn't have necessarily things

777
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,500
like this so the thing that
they're describing seeing, I

778
00:49:50,508 --> 00:49:56,700
don't know I'm not trying to say
what it is or isn't but I think

779
00:49:56,700 --> 00:50:01,000
it's hard to say that anyone
really had an idea of what it

780
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,000
was.
It's just literally an anomaly

781
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,300
that was happening that they
realized was kind of interacting

782
00:50:08,300 --> 00:50:15,000
with them and in some way and
they were trying to Figure out,

783
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,500
you know, to what extent it
would interact with them.

784
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,200
I know it's just wild to me.
I mean, I knew a little bit

785
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,900
about Skinwalker Ranch before I
watched a bunch of shows and

786
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:31,700
stuff about it and just hearing,
you know the wild stories and

787
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:35,600
stuff to happen there.
It's just incredibly

788
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:39,600
fascinating, you know, it's just
it's just wild, you know, it's

789
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:45,500
just a hot spot for crazy shit.
You know, it's really cool and

790
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:48,000
we won't really dive into it too
much tonight.

791
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:49,700
I don't know if we'll dive too
much tuna.

792
00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:52,700
In the next episode either.
So I think it says safe topic to

793
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:59,400
talk about is that these modern
guys seem to have somewhat of a

794
00:50:59,408 --> 00:51:05,100
very vague idea of how to get it
to respond, whatever it is

795
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:08,200
behind this.
There are certain triggers that

796
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:13,300
they seem to have narrowed down
that gets something rolling.

797
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,200
And I mean, if you watch the
Skinwalker Ranch show on the

798
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,700
History Channel, you see things
such as like?

799
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,600
Like CAO Dai, you see things in
the sky, you see things

800
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:26,900
disappear.
You see an attack on like some

801
00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:29,100
llamas or whatever the fuck it
is.

802
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,100
Like they had they put some like
llamas or something in a caged

803
00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:42,500
fence or a fenced-in area with
with like a like a platform

804
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,000
observation platform inside the
case area and these things got a

805
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,100
fucking attacked, by something,
this isn't some like

806
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:50,900
dramatization.
Shannon or something like that.

807
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:54,700
This is like actual happen that
are they shot this damn llama

808
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:58,500
and neck and made it bleed.
I don't know.

809
00:51:58,500 --> 00:52:01,600
I know you were describing that
all I could see was the scene of

810
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:11,500
in Jurassic world velociraptor
Oh, weird, weather lowering it

811
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:12,600
in.
Yeah.

812
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:19,500
No something that I stuck to
with this though was they said

813
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:21,200
it was silent.
They couldn't hear it.

814
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,000
And I don't know what these
planes are that you guys were

815
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,400
talking about the tacit blue, or
the Cargobob.

816
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,700
So I Googled it.
So I knew what the heck I was

817
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:37,600
looking at and I don't know if
they're silent these things are

818
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,200
these.
These aircrafts are huge.

819
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,300
Yeah, that's the massive.
And like if these, if they're

820
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:48,000
claiming that They're silent.
I don't think he's, I don't know

821
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,800
those look very mechanical and
very loud Knology like that, so

822
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,500
like yeah, there's always stuff
that's being Declassified,

823
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:56,900
right?
And we can point and say, oh

824
00:52:56,900 --> 00:53:00,300
look, this was Declassified
right around the same time

825
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:03,000
saying it closed area.
Like maybe this is it, right?

826
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,200
It's a similar descriptions
refrigerator, but if there's

827
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,700
something with the technology
high enough level of Technology

828
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:10,200
where it's completely silent, it
could do those.

829
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,100
Those kinds of Maneuvers that
shit.

830
00:53:12,100 --> 00:53:14,700
Ain't it Declassified.
So they may have Declassified.

831
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,800
I'd do whatever it was the
fridge plane, right?

832
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,400
But they're not going to tell
you about the secret Square

833
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,600
saucer thing that I thought I
personally thought about like

834
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,200
electric cars.
There's I don't know about for

835
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,700
you guys but in Vancouver area
where I am there.

836
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,300
Everybody's got a Tesla and you
can still hear the Tesla's.

837
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:40,200
You can still hear the
electricity running through it

838
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:46,000
so electrical or not.
I feel Keep still hear something

839
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,800
and exactly as you were saying
you're right, they're not going

840
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,700
to declassify something like
that, but my argument is who's

841
00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:56,300
to say, we know about it.
What did Bob Lazar say that he

842
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:59,600
was in?
He was dealing with like Element

843
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,800
115 and stuff like that because
if we're if I was like the 80s

844
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,200
and 90s, I thought because if
we're continuing with this idea

845
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,300
that, you know, the
government's, you know, whatever

846
00:54:11,300 --> 00:54:15,000
government it is is actually a
huge proponent and like, This

847
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,300
whole UAP phenomenon then they
would have had to have been

848
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:22,000
testing this crap at some point
in which case, you know who

849
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,300
cares what the shape they could
have put it in a shipping

850
00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:27,300
container or a refrigerator and
just been like let's see if we

851
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:30,000
can make this thing maneuver.
You know, and not have to worry

852
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,200
about wind resistance or
anything, you know.

853
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:34,800
So you know, like something
straight out of the movie

854
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,700
Flubber shoot.
Why not?

855
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:40,700
You're right.
Where they be idea?

856
00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:44,100
That's exactly right.
That's my point.

857
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:47,000
Is that they were They may have
been testing something else,

858
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,200
right?
And they not being the

859
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,100
government, but being
corporations, you know, it's so

860
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:56,800
it's never going to be
Declassified and given to the

861
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,700
public it's just not, it's a
private, you know what I'm

862
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:02,900
saying?
Is this making sense out there

863
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:05,700
are private entities, they have
private inventions and sure that

864
00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:09,100
they're testing like don't even
expect to get some Declassified

865
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:12,300
because it's not a foia request
if it's a private industry,

866
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,500
right?
Well, I mean the Like I was

867
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:18,300
talking about the F-117 earlier
that was the aircraft that was

868
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:22,000
known to have been tested at
Area 51, if I remember correctly

869
00:55:22,500 --> 00:55:27,200
and then it was you know it came
to service in the Air Force and

870
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:31,000
at that point it was you know,
somewhat Declassified, you know,

871
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:35,100
not all its inner workings of
What Not and how it disperse

872
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:39,500
radar and all that wasn't.
But you know, at the time that

873
00:55:39,500 --> 00:55:44,100
was a test aircraft, if I'm not
mistaken, I might be but I'm

874
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:46,300
pretty sure I'm not.
That it was it was the aircraft

875
00:55:46,300 --> 00:55:49,800
that was tested at Area 51.
And people were seeing, you

876
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,500
know, this Arrow shaped craft
flying around the time they were

877
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:56,700
testing their and then it comes
turns out.

878
00:55:56,700 --> 00:56:00,400
It was the F-117, you know what,
it's still in development?

879
00:56:01,900 --> 00:56:05,200
I don't know.
It may be, you know, 20 or 30

880
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:09,200
years from now that we find out
about some stuff happening that

881
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,600
happened in the 90s or whatever,
but I don't know the thing with

882
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,200
me with you.
With all the technology we have

883
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,100
with aircraft and what?
Not sure, we have the ability to

884
00:56:20,100 --> 00:56:24,500
make things quieter, but you
can't silence physics, you know,

885
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,800
you know, like the Cargobob, you
know, helicopters are crazy

886
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,100
loud, right?
And it's not even the engines,

887
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:33,800
it's just the rotors, yet,
writers themselves, beaten

888
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,900
chopped are into submission.
That shit is incredibly loud.

889
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:40,900
The loudest part of a jet
aircraft is I wouldn't even say

890
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:44,400
is engine itself.
It's, it's it frickin just like

891
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,000
tearing Through the air, you
know, it just, you can't

892
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,500
silence.
That doesn't matter how loud my

893
00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:55,200
TV is.
You always hear the helicopters,

894
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,400
always get the helicopter.
So that's yeah, that was my

895
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,200
thing with especially the
Cargobob.

896
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,700
Just just the rotors alone.
Like, alright, well, a Cargobob

897
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:07,300
without rotors because it's got
Element 115.

898
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,700
An average helicopter, go over
my house.

899
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:19,800
Well, my TV is blaring.
I got music blasted whatever

900
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,600
like and I can still hear the
helicopter.

901
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,800
I can only imagine those ages
that something all Kansas was

902
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:30,600
not a conventional know, but
like that that's just the

903
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,600
comparison.
I'm trying to make though, like

904
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,300
these things are loud period.
Right, you guys ready to move on

905
00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:37,800
yet?
No, huh.

906
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,400
I got it was the car from Harry
Potter.

907
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,400
All right, that's what it was.
That thing was cheap at all.

908
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,300
Okay, so I got another angle for
this.

909
00:57:50,500 --> 00:57:53,700
I want to bring up as is
actually something that has come

910
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:58,000
up in the news recently.
You know, it was a couple year

911
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,600
or two ago.
The Navy released us Fleur video

912
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,200
of the, we talk about it.
We did an episode on it, right?

913
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:09,600
We're go fast and gimbal.
Yeah.

914
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:14,200
Yeah, we talked about that and
the government just recently

915
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:18,500
this past Week has come out and
said, like officially said that

916
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:23,100
this kind of phenomenon is
happening at a increasingly you

917
00:58:23,100 --> 00:58:28,100
know, and a at an increasing
rate and it's getting to the

918
00:58:28,100 --> 00:58:33,700
point where you know, they're
not sure whether they should

919
00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:37,300
consider consider this a threat
or not, you know, that there's

920
00:58:37,300 --> 00:58:42,200
they're seen as so often.
So I mean maybe this what these

921
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:44,800
things happening a Skinwalker
Ranch, maybe that could have.

922
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:49,200
Ben, you know, when these types
of things start happening, I

923
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,000
don't know.
Roger, I think beam.

924
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:56,800
Mmm.
Yeah, you know, you don't think

925
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,000
it's real Jeremy.
What is this?

926
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,200
Well Project Blue beam.
Yeah, every day that goes by.

927
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:08,000
It looks more and more real.
Okay, every fucking day now, I

928
00:59:08,008 --> 00:59:09,700
agree.
When did the conditioning start?

929
00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:13,000
Probably the same time.
Like injured: Kecksburg with

930
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:14,700
Ortiz happening.
One Way year.

931
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:19,000
The Roswell happened 46 47, 40
to 45.

932
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:20,700
Mm.
Hmm.

933
00:59:20,700 --> 00:59:23,600
That's when I started, I
started, I don't know.

934
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,100
Roswell had anything every
we'll.

935
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:27,100
All right.
Let's move on.

936
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,500
Let's move on.
Okay, okay.

937
00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:30,900
Fine what?
Shut up for a little bit.

938
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,100
We have talked about another
craft that we can talk about,

939
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:35,300
how many pages we got. 75 pages
left.

940
00:59:35,300 --> 00:59:38,200
Everybody look, we're on 6 of
13.

941
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,000
Oh my gosh.
Wait now we're on 7030.

942
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,400
Route 77, is it alright?
Yeah everybody shut up.

943
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,200
Let him read.
This one's called another

944
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,600
mysterious craft, who after the
wolf Clyde creature, and the

945
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,800
Mysterious craft.
Terry Sherman began thinking,

946
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:56,300
there may be more to everything
that has been going on.

947
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,600
He started thinking outside of
the box.

948
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:02,400
One thing that he often found
himself thinking about, was that

949
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,900
there was some form of testing
being done inside the Basin.

950
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:09,800
He began to think that the only
way that there could be a craft

951
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,700
or a creature with such
characteristics.

952
01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:16,400
Jeff is going to love this was
if there was some sort of black

953
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,500
budget, government entity that
was conducting secret craft and

954
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,300
Gene editing in areas around the
property.

955
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:26,600
This was pretty much summed up
when one winter day, he

956
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,100
witnessed a craft hovering over
the snow.

957
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,100
Just a few yards away that
reminded him of a B-2 bomber

958
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:37,200
with the be to being
Declassified a few years prior,

959
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,800
Terry found it incredible.
That one would be hovering just

960
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:44,200
over his property in the Like it
was yet.

961
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:47,500
Another incredible detail is
that it was completely silent.

962
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,300
Just like the large rectangle
shaped craft was a short while

963
01:00:50,300 --> 01:00:53,300
back.
The B2 is not a hovering

964
01:00:53,300 --> 01:00:57,300
aircraft, there are very few
hovering non helicopter,

965
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:00,700
aircraft one of which is the
Harrier vertical short takeoff

966
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,300
and Landing aircraft used by
both the Royal Air Force and the

967
01:01:04,300 --> 01:01:07,400
US Marine course.
If you have ever been around

968
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,000
one, you will know one thing,
these are far from Silent the

969
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,000
technology for such an error.
Craft was not available at this

970
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,200
time.
Nor is it available?

971
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:18,100
Now?
As Miss Sherman, continue to

972
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:22,100
watch The Craft slowly hover
over his land as mr.

973
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:24,400
Sherman.
Sorry, he noticed that there was

974
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,000
an array of colors emanating
from the bottom of the craft,

975
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,400
like a Searchlight, as the craft
continued along.

976
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,000
Its way, Terry sat and watched
he came to call the display of

977
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:39,600
lights disco lights and just
watched Terry watched as the

978
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,300
craft passed by his side and as
he craned his neck, Back to

979
01:01:43,300 --> 01:01:47,300
follow the path of the craft.
He made a very loud pop from his

980
01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:51,800
neck bones as if there were
reacting to the subtle sound of

981
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,500
someone's neck, cracking the
craft suddenly stopped and

982
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:58,500
turned off all of its lights, a
few seconds later.

983
01:01:58,900 --> 01:02:03,500
It's slowly hovered away.
Like with the previous strange

984
01:02:03,500 --> 01:02:07,600
subjects, when Sherman would
also have our own encounter with

985
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,000
this mysterious craft shortly
after her husband's, her

986
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,500
encounter involved her, Driving
home being followed by a large

987
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:17,600
black craft, hovering over her
position.

988
01:02:17,900 --> 01:02:21,300
The quote unquote, disco lights
were Illuminating her car.

989
01:02:21,500 --> 01:02:25,800
So she pushed the pedal to the
floor and raced home in attempt

990
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:29,000
lose her pursuer.
As she came near the end of her

991
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,700
driveway.
She slammed on the brakes and

992
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:35,400
put the car in park to her
relief, the car continued or the

993
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,300
craft continued, right over her
position and continued out of

994
01:02:39,300 --> 01:02:42,200
you.
Over the ridge line, these small

995
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,500
Crafted multicolored beans being
projected on the land are very

996
01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:50,700
similar to the troopas of South
America more on these in a

997
01:02:50,707 --> 01:02:56,400
future episode though, just an
hour later when notice that what

998
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,800
looked like an RV park on the
property, she was rightfully

999
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,600
getting very upset at all the
events happening and this was no

1000
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:06,100
different as she stared at the
vehicle.

1001
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:10,100
She knows that the interior was
illuminated and the desk was

1002
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:11,800
stationed in the middle of the
inside.

1003
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:15,700
By the way, some sources claim
that she was looking through.

1004
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:19,300
Binoculars, by the way, during
this time, a man seemed to come

1005
01:03:19,300 --> 01:03:22,900
into view inside the RV, like,
automobile and took a seat at

1006
01:03:22,900 --> 01:03:25,600
the desk.
When described the man as

1007
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,700
wearing a black helmet in all
black or a helmet in all black

1008
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:33,900
to her disbelief, the man seemed
to notice that she was watching

1009
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:38,000
him and stood up from the desk.
This allowed Miss Sherman to

1010
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,600
notice that the man was wearing
a large visor over his face and

1011
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,900
boots that Up to almost his
knees.

1012
01:03:44,300 --> 01:03:48,100
She believed that the person was
abnormally tall but it was hard

1013
01:03:48,100 --> 01:03:50,800
to be sure from so far away her
best.

1014
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,900
Guess was that the man stood
around seven feet when slammed

1015
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:58,300
her current shut recent, the
other room to call Terry who was

1016
01:03:58,300 --> 01:04:01,500
out of town on business.
She told him everything that had

1017
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:04,800
happened that day and that she
did not feel safe alone that

1018
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,500
night Terry raised home.
And by the time he pulled up,

1019
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,000
there was nothing there.
Terribly leaves that what his

1020
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,000
wife I saw that night was the
same thing that they had

1021
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,200
witnessed before when they were
chasing headlights from a large,

1022
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,900
rectangular hovering silent
graph that originally reminded

1023
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:26,300
him of an RV.
I don't know about you guys, but

1024
01:04:26,300 --> 01:04:29,700
when I, when I hear this stuff
like, I first listened to it and

1025
01:04:29,700 --> 01:04:34,300
even now listening to, it gives
me like super like Goosebump

1026
01:04:34,300 --> 01:04:37,500
Vibes, you know, you know, it's
just weird.

1027
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:41,100
It's like, I don't know.
It doesn't seem like something,

1028
01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:43,700
the way they described it in
detail and something like

1029
01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:48,100
someone could easily make up,
you know, definitely give some

1030
01:04:48,100 --> 01:04:50,300
r.l.
Stine Vibes for sure.

1031
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:52,700
I didn't mean necessarily are
else.

1032
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:56,200
I'm just like, you know, Like
the hair, the hair on the back

1033
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,200
of your neck, stand up, you
know, kind of thing.

1034
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:04,900
I don't know how I got it.
Okay, so tr-3b if you looked at

1035
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:08,800
it from the top, right?
It looked like this, you'd see

1036
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:11,100
the triangle shape.
If you looked at it from the

1037
01:05:11,100 --> 01:05:14,200
front, it would look like that.
If you looked at it, head on,

1038
01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:15,800
then you'd see the lights on the
bottom.

1039
01:05:16,300 --> 01:05:19,300
What if this was a tr-3b and
they've just been testing it for

1040
01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:25,200
50 years or something.
Jeff, has a tier 2 years, bless

1041
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:29,400
you haven't been there and back
loans, because that was all you

1042
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:32,200
saw was this square shape and
that you were actually Looking

1043
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,300
at him.
Jeff Franklin object from the

1044
01:05:34,300 --> 01:05:36,000
dead front.
Yeah.

1045
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:37,900
I mean, you know, you're not
wrong, right?

1046
01:05:37,900 --> 01:05:39,900
So, I can definitely see that,
but there's actually other

1047
01:05:39,900 --> 01:05:44,700
patents of other, you know, like
forget, what the technical term

1048
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,200
that they use for them.
It's not like zero gravity, but

1049
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:51,100
it's some crazy turn that they
use for these craft, but there's

1050
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:53,900
a bunch of them and some of them
are kind of square shaped and

1051
01:05:53,900 --> 01:05:57,400
cube-shaped.
And, you know, there's a bunch

1052
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,800
of different shapes.
The tr-3b is just like the

1053
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,600
easiest one to recognize.
And you know, it's like the most

1054
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,600
famous one I guess.
But yeah, definitely honestly.

1055
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,400
I mean if you are you guys
familiar with crypto

1056
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:13,900
terrestrials?
Krypto terrorist is another

1057
01:06:13,900 --> 01:06:16,800
money-making scam.
Yeah man and then our with

1058
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:20,700
scheme so the idea is and
there's like there's like

1059
01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:22,500
various theories on crypto
terrestrials.

1060
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:27,400
But my understanding and what my
idea of it is that there's us in

1061
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,000
the future, far off in the
future, there's like a genetic

1062
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,000
issue, right?
We do too much.

1063
01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:35,600
Genetic crisper shit, and the
genome is just messed.

1064
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,900
So us in the future, come back
in time to harvest DNA and all

1065
01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:42,500
Of other things from select
individuals, of course, blah,

1066
01:06:42,500 --> 01:06:45,200
blah, blah.
But those are the beings that

1067
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:48,500
most people are seeing when
they're seeing UFOs, if they're

1068
01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:53,300
not like, you know, Lockheed
Martin's stuff or whatever.

1069
01:06:53,300 --> 01:06:55,600
But, you know, like, a lot of
them are these crypto

1070
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,000
terrestrials that are kind of
stuck here in this part of the

1071
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:04,300
timeline, the the future human
time.

1072
01:07:04,300 --> 01:07:06,900
Travel Theory thing.
Yeah, but they also there's

1073
01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:10,300
people who also tomorrow War
equate that with A lot of

1074
01:07:10,300 --> 01:07:13,400
Cryptids as well where they say
that these crypto terrestrials,

1075
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,900
have the ability to manipulate
what we see and what we

1076
01:07:16,900 --> 01:07:18,900
perceive.
So that they're making it seem

1077
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:21,700
like we're seeing a Bigfoot or
we're seeing a skinwalker, but

1078
01:07:21,700 --> 01:07:24,800
in reality it's not what we're
what is actually there.

1079
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,100
This just are manipulated
perception of it.

1080
01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:30,800
Dude is funny.
You you said that we're Crypt of

1081
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,600
terrestrial and I never heard it
Googling it.

1082
01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:38,900
It's funny how many books that
pop up under my personal Google

1083
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,200
stuff?
Google is always listening,

1084
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:47,900
right?
And I've definitely heard of

1085
01:07:47,908 --> 01:07:49,400
this.
I just haven't heard of the

1086
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,900
turn.
Cruiser is true.

1087
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:56,000
I don't really like the idea
that they're what is being seen

1088
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:59,200
or what is, you know, being
portrayed in your eyes as like,

1089
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:05,700
a Bigfoot, or Skinwalker, or the
such, but I have to give props

1090
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:10,500
to Jake and then I didn't think
of the the tr-3b I would be

1091
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:12,800
lying to you.
If I said at some point, I

1092
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:20,200
didn't think of the tr-3b but
the the Quickly drawn artistic

1093
01:08:20,700 --> 01:08:25,300
talent that He just portrayed.
Oh man, it is fantastic.

1094
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:30,000
Everybody check eBay.
Get it while you can before it's

1095
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,899
in the millions he did a great
job.

1096
01:08:32,899 --> 01:08:36,300
Angela original.
Let's let's look I've seen I've

1097
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:41,899
seen you know like was it 3D
images or whatever like

1098
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,399
computer-generated images,
whatever of the tr-3b?

1099
01:08:45,399 --> 01:08:47,700
What people would think that?
Would look like, and some of

1100
01:08:47,700 --> 01:08:51,600
them have what looks like a blue
ball on the bottom for, like,

1101
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,899
the Antigravity device and
stuff.

1102
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:57,200
And let's just say that's coming
from some sort of a source that

1103
01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:58,899
knows something or another,
right?

1104
01:08:59,500 --> 01:09:02,500
If I saw that and I saw the
lights at the bottom and that

1105
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:04,300
was it.
I would think that look like a

1106
01:09:04,308 --> 01:09:06,600
disco ball.
Dude.

1107
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:09,100
I'm telling you man.
That's a good a good

1108
01:09:09,100 --> 01:09:11,500
observation, Jake.
Because appreciate that.

1109
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:15,600
I mean I could see it.
I could totally see both of

1110
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:20,500
these craft.
Being the tr-3b or tr3 a or

1111
01:09:20,500 --> 01:09:26,700
whatever, or the tr2 and yeah,
dude.

1112
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,200
Good call.
I like it but I'm curious as to

1113
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,100
how you're going to tie that
into this next one.

1114
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,000
Well, the next one is bullcrap
but this is the truth.

1115
01:09:36,300 --> 01:09:38,500
Are you?
Are you are you Jake?

1116
01:09:38,700 --> 01:09:41,300
Are you reading along again?
Jake, I'm not reading along.

1117
01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:42,700
I'm just telling you that.
It's okay.

1118
01:09:42,700 --> 01:09:45,100
If it if it breaks away from my
theory.

1119
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:50,399
It's because it's made of its
initial contract, long.

1120
01:09:51,100 --> 01:09:53,000
Incredibly humble about my
theory too.

1121
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,700
So just so, you know, all right,
we ready?

1122
01:09:55,900 --> 01:10:01,000
Ready to roll?
all right, cattle mutilations

1123
01:10:02,500 --> 01:10:08,300
Bullshit in April of 1995
tearing, his son were attempting

1124
01:10:08,300 --> 01:10:11,400
to gather the cattle on an
oversaturated range.

1125
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:16,000
The area of the Uintah Basin had
just experienced five days in a

1126
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:19,500
row of steady.
Rainfall and land was muddy wet

1127
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:23,800
and treacherous for both Main
and Bovine to particular members

1128
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,100
of The Herd were making it
difficult for Terry.

1129
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:30,000
And his son, one was a calf who
was wandering on its own and the

1130
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,100
other was a full-grown cow.
That was fine.

1131
01:10:32,300 --> 01:10:36,300
Particularly hard to climb up
out of a Ravine and up the Steep

1132
01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:40,000
embankment in the mud.
Terry decided that they would

1133
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,400
focus on the calf before the
cow, but when they finally were

1134
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,100
able to turn their full
attention to the cow, it was

1135
01:10:47,100 --> 01:10:49,700
laying on its side and the
shallow Ravine dead.

1136
01:10:50,300 --> 01:10:54,000
The animal they just saw only 20
minutes ago was now dead and

1137
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,700
missing, its anus.
Genitals, most of its internal

1138
01:10:57,700 --> 01:11:02,000
organs and tongue with
absolutely no blood left in on

1139
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,000
or Or around the body.
Keller, an app said this about

1140
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,400
the scene, quote, the cut was
Flawless, it looked as if a 6

1141
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,000
inch diameter.
Perfectly circular saw with a

1142
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:18,200
sucking device had jammed into
the heifers rear end and

1143
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,500
effortlessly sucked out the
entire insides of the animal

1144
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,400
without any loss of blood.
After this event, the two

1145
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,100
Sherman men looked for tracks
blood flowing away from the body

1146
01:11:30,100 --> 01:11:34,200
in the Ravine or any signs.
At all about what may have

1147
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,500
happened to this prize animal,
they found nothing.

1148
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:42,200
This unfortunately was a common
thing to happen in a un to Basin

1149
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:46,100
with documentation, since the
60s and would not be the last

1150
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,500
time.
Cattle would be found mutilated

1151
01:11:49,900 --> 01:11:54,600
on Skinwalker Ranch.
And I'm going to send it to the

1152
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,000
big head Jake.
So it's anus was missing, huh?

1153
01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:02,800
Yes, I knew that that was gonna
be the first thing he talked

1154
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,300
about.
I just had a feeling had a

1155
01:12:04,308 --> 01:12:10,200
feeling the anus and just knows
most of its internal organs.

1156
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:14,500
Yeah, which ones were left
behind?

1157
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,100
No, I know.
This is a very important

1158
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:17,900
question.
I have no fucking clue.

1159
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,100
No sounds like collecting DNA to
me.

1160
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:23,800
No need.
You don't need.

1161
01:12:27,500 --> 01:12:30,400
These are some really don't know
man maybe in a hundred years we

1162
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:34,300
discover that hey man you want
the best DNA just sliding, right

1163
01:12:35,900 --> 01:12:37,600
shittiest?
Part of the DNA.

1164
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:46,500
I'm just saying maybe the the
crypto to terrestrial since

1165
01:12:46,500 --> 01:12:49,600
they're coming back to look for
DNA because they are DNA is

1166
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:54,400
fucked up in the future, maybe
where our DNA is so fucked up,

1167
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,800
is our buttholes are covered by
a flap of skin.

1168
01:12:57,200 --> 01:13:01,200
And they need the anus DNA to be
able to grow better bottles.

1169
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:05,000
Maybe they were listening to a
little biscuits Chocolate

1170
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:11,200
Starfish.
I'm just saying, I'm just

1171
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:14,700
saying.
Give me some of these cows.

1172
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:20,400
Chocolate Starfish, who knows
mr.

1173
01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:27,900
Delicacy back, who knows.
Maybe I mean we testicles It's

1174
01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:30,600
true.
When you you try that we weren't

1175
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:35,300
around real loose like cow
heinous.

1176
01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:41,000
All of us, the human species
look.

1177
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:45,400
All I'm saying is you you sit
there and you just break it down

1178
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:50,700
that they removed the organs and
the anus.

1179
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,200
Look at separate.
Keep.

1180
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,700
Let's just take.
Take your head away from the

1181
01:13:56,700 --> 01:14:00,400
butthole.
Hole and just think about, like

1182
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:05,500
to go into the intestines, and
they took the organs.

1183
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:10,300
So whoever collected these was
just making sausage like that's

1184
01:14:10,500 --> 01:14:12,900
that's it.
That's the whole Wrath of it.

1185
01:14:12,900 --> 01:14:16,500
Feel like it's already linked,
take the whole anus and then

1186
01:14:16,500 --> 01:14:22,100
like them was like, were the
were the cowboys were the

1187
01:14:22,100 --> 01:14:26,500
cowboys that decimated the
buffalo population in the United

1188
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:30,300
States where Also aliens because
they stripped them of their skin

1189
01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:33,600
and left everything else and
stuff like I mean mutilations

1190
01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:37,300
been happening for forever.
It's like they do it in a matter

1191
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:40,400
of 20 minutes.
Was it 20 minutes?

1192
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,400
That was he embarrassed that he
let one of his cows just run

1193
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,000
off?
I mean it's been raining.

1194
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:48,600
It's all muddy and stuff.
There's no blood in.

1195
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,300
It's like well it could have
been bleeding out for a while

1196
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:53,400
and at the range is washed it
away.

1197
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:57,300
You know, how much, how much
water has to mix with blood to

1198
01:14:57,300 --> 01:15:00,100
thin it out enough to where you
can't really, you know, tell or

1199
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:03,700
mudfish strange.
The whole cattle cattle

1200
01:15:03,700 --> 01:15:07,500
mutilation thing, just from any
you know UFOs or whatever like

1201
01:15:07,500 --> 01:15:09,000
that's.
It's a very strange.

1202
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:13,500
Thing to me, you know, because
it's like why cattle?

1203
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:16,900
Why is it always cattle and sure
this other things but it's like

1204
01:15:16,900 --> 01:15:20,600
it always seems like the cattle
are getting mutilated like, why?

1205
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,300
Well, I mean, the owing a
sneezes mutilate, the annoying

1206
01:15:24,300 --> 01:15:29,000
neighbor, something happens the
horses, and deer, and other, you

1207
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:34,700
know, always, I was right, like
always cattle, mutilation is

1208
01:15:34,700 --> 01:15:36,900
like, it's synonymous with UFOs,
right?

1209
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:38,300
I mean, it's even in video
games, right?

1210
01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:40,500
If you play like this, Destroy
All Humans, like cattle

1211
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:43,300
mutilations like a big part of
the game, my wife's playing that

1212
01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:45,100
she steals all the cow butt
holes.

1213
01:15:45,300 --> 01:15:53,000
Such a good game.
I think it's good because I

1214
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:56,100
think it's because if you're
going to do a hoax like that,

1215
01:15:57,100 --> 01:15:58,700
like you can't go around killing
people.

1216
01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:04,500
Like you get less less penalties
if you kill animals versus

1217
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:06,500
people.
So unless they know anything

1218
01:16:06,500 --> 01:16:09,800
about cattle, mutilation is that
happens across the world.

1219
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,800
Okay?
It's not just an American thing,

1220
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:15,100
it's not a one States on one,
County one-time thing happens

1221
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:16,200
everywhere.
Okay?

1222
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,200
And it so happens, it's not
like, yeah, it still happens.

1223
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:24,300
And it's not like, what are
those, fucking things, crop,

1224
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:25,700
crop circle, crop circles.
Thank you.

1225
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,900
It's not like crop circles.
That's literally what I was

1226
01:16:27,900 --> 01:16:28,800
talking about.
Thank you.

1227
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,000
It's Like crop circles where
someone comes forward and says,

1228
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,800
I did this and then they can go
out there and prove that they

1229
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,500
did it, right.
You have you have doctors

1230
01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:45,000
surgeons that are that they try
to create the same Cuts,

1231
01:16:45,700 --> 01:16:50,800
butchers try to create the same
cuts and they have documentation

1232
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,800
of the way.
A coyote will tear the skin

1233
01:16:55,100 --> 01:16:59,500
before it gets into its guts
and, you know, the nobody

1234
01:16:59,500 --> 01:17:04,900
removes A butthole perfectly
like the cattle mutilators.

1235
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:08,800
Whoever they are do it.
Maybe the doctors just suck at

1236
01:17:08,808 --> 01:17:10,800
their jobs.
I mean, shoot, we had a Navy

1237
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,800
doctor.
Botched, my wife's knee surgery,

1238
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:15,300
so what do they know?
Well, let's not, you know,

1239
01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:21,900
they're not, we had some med
student boxer, my wife's knee

1240
01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:25,700
surgery.
So I mean, we don't know, you

1241
01:17:25,708 --> 01:17:29,000
know, if there is some sort of
extraterrestrials or

1242
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,500
interdimensional Hollow Earth
beings, whatever they are like

1243
01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:34,800
that are flying around and doing
these mutilations like we don't

1244
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,500
know shit about them, right?
Like for all we know like they

1245
01:17:37,500 --> 01:17:40,400
eat the but how heinous.
Yeah.

1246
01:17:40,700 --> 01:17:43,100
Like that could be their primary
source of food.

1247
01:17:43,300 --> 01:17:44,900
We don't know.
It sounds ridiculous.

1248
01:17:45,900 --> 01:17:47,300
The eat it with their pinkies
up.

1249
01:17:47,300 --> 01:17:51,100
Star pinkies up like calamari.
Yeah.

1250
01:17:51,100 --> 01:17:53,300
But you know, like real talk
like maybe I don't know, like

1251
01:17:53,300 --> 01:17:55,900
I'm just throwing it out there
like could be like a fucking

1252
01:17:55,900 --> 01:17:57,700
enzyme in there some like you
know what I mean?

1253
01:17:57,700 --> 01:17:59,100
Like didn't know.
So great.

1254
01:17:59,900 --> 01:18:02,900
Yes, we're going to is great for
you.

1255
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:07,800
Well it could be ease of access
and how easy it is to catch you

1256
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,600
know or maybe it's easier to get
up from behind.

1257
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:14,000
You know.
Here's my theory about cattle

1258
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:20,500
mutilation in general, okay.
Almost every Farm is either

1259
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:23,800
growing something or has got
cattle.

1260
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:29,700
So it's a lot of cattle around
obviously they're going to go to

1261
01:18:29,700 --> 01:18:32,100
where the food is most
plentiful.

1262
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:38,400
So it just so happens to be
within this one area that the

1263
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:42,600
cows keep getting mutilated in.
There's a lot of cows

1264
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,600
everywhere, guys.
Like, that's what I'm thinking

1265
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,300
is.
We're just seeing the cows

1266
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:53,700
because There's more cow cattle
Farms than there are goat farms.

1267
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:57,300
There's more sheep farms or deer
farms or whatever, right?

1268
01:18:57,300 --> 01:19:00,000
And cows are just the easiest
animal to pick on.

1269
01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:05,400
Well there are sheep and and and
goats and chickens and all kinds

1270
01:19:05,400 --> 01:19:08,600
of stuff they get mutilated to,
but herd, the cows cows have

1271
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:14,700
huge anuses in comparison.
So I mean, You're a cynic?

1272
01:19:14,700 --> 01:19:17,500
Irina's.
No, I don't want to thank you

1273
01:19:19,500 --> 01:19:31,400
for that.
It's about time to go on to the

1274
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:47,200
next
People, we've graduated anyways

1275
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,200
the politics and how it is
Carrie.

1276
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,700
This is our fine.
I don't care.

1277
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,900
Perfectly final countenances.
And it's even tie on the news.

1278
01:19:55,900 --> 01:20:00,800
A couple weeks ago being
interviewed about Callie.

1279
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,700
This is, yeah, honestly, we
should have him on on the show.

1280
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,300
Did cattle or livestock
mutilations for like the last 60

1281
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:10,900
years.
Get on it.

1282
01:20:10,900 --> 01:20:12,900
Jake.
Yeah, you don't understand call

1283
01:20:12,900 --> 01:20:15,500
him, dude.
What do you weigh doing up to

1284
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:23,400
the south of us?
Either way, I will do an episode

1285
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,600
on cattle mutilations.
I'll put it at the end of the

1286
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:31,300
list because I've got six
episodes on ready to go but not

1287
01:20:31,300 --> 01:20:35,600
ready to go but ready to
research at least and I don't

1288
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:38,800
know I'll I'll do some good
stuff on there because I've got

1289
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:43,300
my theories to let's move on.
I think we're going to like

1290
01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:46,900
this.
Terry Sherman's claims all

1291
01:20:46,900 --> 01:20:52,200
seemed a little outside the box
of normality, but none even hold

1292
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:57,100
a candle to the orange smudge.
The orange smudge in the sky

1293
01:20:57,100 --> 01:21:02,700
that is that appears every night
over a specific set of trees on

1294
01:21:02,700 --> 01:21:06,400
the Sherman ranch when the
Sherman's witness the orange.

1295
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,000
Smudge.
For the first time, they thought

1296
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,800
it was simply another case of
something, unknown on their

1297
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:15,400
property, and that it would fade
away, like all the others

1298
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:18,800
possibly appearing in another
location, sometime in the

1299
01:21:18,808 --> 01:21:21,900
future.
But when the smudge began to

1300
01:21:21,900 --> 01:21:26,500
appear regularly night after
night Terry, because Curious,

1301
01:21:26,900 --> 01:21:31,100
his plan was to investigate it
with his rifle scope and what he

1302
01:21:31,100 --> 01:21:35,700
claimed to have seen blew his
mind is seen that through the

1303
01:21:35,700 --> 01:21:39,200
cloud of orange.
He could see another sky in bits

1304
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,500
and pieces.
One that did not match the sky

1305
01:21:43,500 --> 01:21:47,500
over his own head.
Clouds and shades of light, blue

1306
01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:51,200
were visible between the holes
in this much Terry's.

1307
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:55,400
Discovery led him to believe
that he may have found the

1308
01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:59,500
Answer to all the strangeness
that has taken place on his

1309
01:21:59,500 --> 01:22:02,400
Ranch.
He was looking at a gateway to a

1310
01:22:02,407 --> 01:22:06,300
parallel world.
A few days later, Terry saw,

1311
01:22:06,300 --> 01:22:09,500
what may be the best evidence to
his theory?

1312
01:22:10,500 --> 01:22:14,200
A triangular craft was coming
through the orange smudge.

1313
01:22:14,900 --> 01:22:18,300
But when Terry shifted his
position, a few feet to get a

1314
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:22,800
better look it disappeared and
when he returned to his original

1315
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:27,400
position, it reappeared.
Terry believed that this was the

1316
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:31,800
answer to all of the
strangeness, the creatures

1317
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:36,400
crafts, and other anomalies,
we're literally from another

1318
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:40,700
world as a side, note to The
credibility of this orange

1319
01:22:40,700 --> 01:22:45,000
smudge, these have been recorded
in other areas of the world on

1320
01:22:45,008 --> 01:22:50,100
occasion in January of 2014, a
Wisconsin Farmer, by the name of

1321
01:22:50,100 --> 01:22:54,200
Leroy Smith claimed to have seen
what he describes as an orange

1322
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:58,400
Vortex like Sure growing over
the ridge Line near his house,

1323
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,500
as the light made frequent
appearances throughout many

1324
01:23:02,500 --> 01:23:07,200
years after the initial
experience in 2014 Leroy found

1325
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,300
it seemed to appear more
frequently in cold and snowy

1326
01:23:10,300 --> 01:23:14,500
weather and can only be seen
from one angle on his property.

1327
01:23:15,100 --> 01:23:18,200
When seen from the sides, the
orange Vortex would disappear

1328
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,500
from sight.
Leroy Was Not Afraid of the

1329
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:24,300
vortex.
But rather what came from it on

1330
01:23:24,300 --> 01:23:25,600
multiple?
Leslie.

1331
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:30,000
Roy claimed to have witnessed
bipedal, hair-covered dog, like,

1332
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,700
creatures coming out of the fort
X before running away and what

1333
01:23:33,700 --> 01:23:38,600
seemed like as fast as they
could before the incidents with

1334
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,800
the cattle who died by
mysterious means the Sherman's

1335
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:45,100
cattle had suffered in different
in a different way that Terry

1336
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:47,900
believed was tied to these
4-inch gateways.

1337
01:23:47,900 --> 01:23:53,000
One of Terry's prize registered,
Angus, cows was missing during a

1338
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:55,900
snowstorm.
Terry spent about Four hours

1339
01:23:55,900 --> 01:23:58,900
searching for it before he came
across the track way, near a

1340
01:23:58,907 --> 01:24:02,000
dense group of trees in the far
corner of his property.

1341
01:24:02,700 --> 01:24:06,400
Terry was relieved as he
believed that this meant, he was

1342
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:09,800
only a short way away from
finding the cow.

1343
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:13,600
But to his surprise, the
trackway is, turned from a

1344
01:24:13,608 --> 01:24:17,900
steady stride to a quick run,
almost instantly, the prized

1345
01:24:17,900 --> 01:24:22,200
animals trackway took it through
bushes, and rough patches of

1346
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,400
Earth.
Before the trackway just simply

1347
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:28,200
ended As if something lifted the
animal off of the ground

1348
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:33,300
mid-stride this confuse, Terry,
as there isn't anything that he

1349
01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:36,100
knows of that can lift the
thousand-pound animal off the

1350
01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:39,800
ground and fly away, Terry came
to the conclusion that the

1351
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:43,600
animal must have made its way
into one of the strange, orange,

1352
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:48,500
smudges and simply disappeared.
The Sherman's never saw their

1353
01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:52,000
prized Angus.
Again, it would happen another

1354
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,300
four times throughout their time
on the ranch.

1355
01:24:56,300 --> 01:24:59,300
A triangular shaped object.
You don't say?

1356
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:07,700
But it wasn't a spacecraft.
I, I actually with that, I

1357
01:25:07,700 --> 01:25:11,600
specifically picked up on when
he moved positions and it

1358
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:15,500
disappeared, what went through
my head is what if this thing

1359
01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:19,600
was mirrored, And when he moved
his position, he was getting the

1360
01:25:19,608 --> 01:25:24,400
reflection of whatever from
around it behind it, whatever

1361
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,400
the case may be.
And then would he put himself

1362
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,200
back in his original position?
He just was at the right angle

1363
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:36,400
and can see the actual shape of
the craft beyond the mirrors,

1364
01:25:36,700 --> 01:25:41,600
like a cloak kinda.
Like a cloaking or a mirroring

1365
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:46,200
type idea.
Maybe that's what went through

1366
01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:49,300
my head there.
Geez, that's awesome.

1367
01:25:50,300 --> 01:25:54,200
Sounds like, what I said earlier
mind manipulation man.

1368
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,800
Perception manipulation.
Yeah, some high-tech shit.

1369
01:25:57,900 --> 01:25:59,100
Stargates, right?
Jeff.

1370
01:25:59,200 --> 01:26:01,500
Yes.
Not even close.

1371
01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:03,900
But no, yeah.
We all know.

1372
01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,900
We know you're talking about
somebody out there is like yeah

1373
01:26:06,900 --> 01:26:09,200
man, that's what I was thinking.
Yeah bro.

1374
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,100
And whoever that is, that's
thinking that right now, I got

1375
01:26:12,100 --> 01:26:18,800
you All right, in order to
augment our inner dimensionals.

1376
01:26:19,300 --> 01:26:21,800
That's the other thing that went
through my head was dog, man.

1377
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,300
Dog.
Man is piloting the Triangular

1378
01:26:25,300 --> 01:26:27,200
spacecraft.
There you go.

1379
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:31,300
What we're solving all sorts of
mysteries today which I'm using

1380
01:26:31,300 --> 01:26:34,300
here laughing general or
interdimensional since the

1381
01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:40,400
beginning of this, right?
And I'm just saying like my not

1382
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,400
my idea of crypto terrestrials
but like the idea of crypto

1383
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,800
terrestrials It just makes sense
to me.

1384
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,800
Maybe they're not like time
traveling, I don't know.

1385
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:54,200
But like the fact that there's
just some Advanced beings that

1386
01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,700
live here that are doing some
crazy shit.

1387
01:26:56,700 --> 01:27:00,100
They got crazy craft, they got
mine manipulating mind control

1388
01:27:00,100 --> 01:27:02,100
you so you can see what they
want you to see.

1389
01:27:02,100 --> 01:27:04,700
Like that's all the sounds like
to me it sounds like they're

1390
01:27:04,700 --> 01:27:08,000
just being tested on replayed
with or visited and they're just

1391
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,700
getting.
They have like weird memories of

1392
01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:16,900
visitations because of Men In
Black style memory erasing or

1393
01:27:16,900 --> 01:27:22,400
something, I don't know, I don't
know to me the fact that, you

1394
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:26,000
know, it's not visible from, you
know, when you try to look at

1395
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,800
from the side just makes me feel
like it's just like I don't know

1396
01:27:31,100 --> 01:27:34,000
like I don't know how to
describe it.

1397
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:39,900
It's just like a slice of like
it's just a razor thin you know,

1398
01:27:39,900 --> 01:27:44,200
opening in the sky and you know
When you look at it from the

1399
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:48,500
side because it's so it's a,
it's a rift in time, you know.

1400
01:27:48,500 --> 01:27:52,300
I don't know.
It's not like it's a, I don't

1401
01:27:52,300 --> 01:27:56,900
know what we see in movies is
opening in into another

1402
01:27:56,900 --> 01:27:59,000
dimension or whatever where it's
like your cloud or something

1403
01:27:59,000 --> 01:28:01,600
like that.
Who knows what it would actually

1404
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,100
look?
Like, maybe it looks like this,

1405
01:28:03,500 --> 01:28:08,400
you know, I don't know or maybe
it's it disappears from view by

1406
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,500
Design.
You know, if someone's coming in

1407
01:28:11,500 --> 01:28:15,300
from another dimension They
don't want it to be visible from

1408
01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:19,500
all angles, necessarily, you
know, I don't know.

1409
01:28:20,900 --> 01:28:25,300
Okay, it's pretty wild though.
I'm glad it's you got you got to

1410
01:28:25,300 --> 01:28:29,800
that because that I've read
about that, I was just like my

1411
01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:34,900
blown like this, this some
crazy-ass shit, I'm talking

1412
01:28:34,900 --> 01:28:38,000
about the orange smudge and I'm
just like, oh great, they saw

1413
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:42,300
the sunset and they're like hmm
let me went deeper into it.

1414
01:28:42,300 --> 01:28:45,900
I was like, okay.
I think that sounds exactly like

1415
01:28:45,900 --> 01:28:50,600
what a shield would say that if
I'm not wearing my hat today,

1416
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,100
which means I am not a show, but
you're wearing it.

1417
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:56,500
Ash your star.
Where the she'll stash?

1418
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:00,200
I like it.
Leave it this way.

1419
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,800
I don't grow the stash.
I like your window.

1420
01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:04,100
You look good.
Like a snitch.

1421
01:29:04,100 --> 01:29:23,200
I mean a shot.
Like to alter egos and one of

1422
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:28,200
them he's like a total asshole.
Never mind.

1423
01:29:28,300 --> 01:29:31,900
They're in general or Isabel
just saying.

1424
01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:33,100
He has like it.
Yes I can.

1425
01:30:02,500 --> 01:30:04,700
Exactly.
But, you know, it is what it is.

1426
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,200
Oh, good stuff.
Good stuff.

1427
01:30:07,300 --> 01:30:09,800
I'll take it.
All right, moving on.

1428
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:12,500
Perfect.
Time to move on.

1429
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:19,000
Orbs yet, another strange entity
would make its appearance one

1430
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,800
night while the Sherman's were
out, tending to their cattle,

1431
01:30:22,300 --> 01:30:25,200
both Terry.
And Gwen were swept by a strange

1432
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:28,700
feeling that they were being
watched as they focus their

1433
01:30:28,700 --> 01:30:32,100
attention on their horses or
grazing under a nearby tree,

1434
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,300
they noticed that there was a
perfectly round blue glowing

1435
01:30:35,300 --> 01:30:40,700
ball, hovering over the same
tree the orb as it would become

1436
01:30:40,700 --> 01:30:46,200
known by seem to be a smooth.
Object with light originating

1437
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:49,000
from within it.
They watched as the orb lowered

1438
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,900
itself to the horses below, it
seem to favor, one particular

1439
01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:57,300
horse and acted as if it were
studying, the animal Terry was

1440
01:30:57,300 --> 01:31:00,300
confused and started to think
about what you could do with the

1441
01:31:00,300 --> 01:31:05,500
object began doing anything,
harmful to the horse before

1442
01:31:05,500 --> 01:31:08,000
teary, could take a step in that
direction.

1443
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,900
The orb.
Floated back up about 20 feet.

1444
01:31:11,700 --> 01:31:15,000
And started floating in the
Sherman's Direction before

1445
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:21,200
stopping just above their heads.
Both Terry and Gwen describe,

1446
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:23,100
the feeling of being watched and
studied.

1447
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:28,500
Before the feeling of fear
flooded their emotions, from

1448
01:31:28,500 --> 01:31:31,500
their point of view, they were
able to study the object and

1449
01:31:31,500 --> 01:31:34,600
noted that it was about the size
of a softball and was filled

1450
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,000
with what they described as
swirling blue fluid.

1451
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,800
As it, floated above their
heads, they noticed that the

1452
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:43,900
object was creating a crackling
sound that Terry described as

1453
01:31:43,900 --> 01:31:47,700
sounding like, static
electricity as Gwen felt her

1454
01:31:47,700 --> 01:31:50,000
fear.
And she raised your hand and

1455
01:31:50,000 --> 01:31:52,400
turned on our flashlight to
shine at the orb.

1456
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,700
But before she could place the
beam of light from her

1457
01:31:55,700 --> 01:31:59,200
flashlight on the object, it
took off quickly for the top of

1458
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,300
the tree line before quickly
disappearing Over the Horizon,

1459
01:32:02,700 --> 01:32:05,100
about two hours after this
encounter with the orb, the

1460
01:32:05,100 --> 01:32:08,000
Sherman's were back inside of
their house when they saw a blue

1461
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,100
light Illuminator window the orb
was back in this time.

1462
01:32:12,100 --> 01:32:15,000
It seemed to be floating around
their house and stopping in

1463
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,300
front of various Windows, Terry
headed out the front door.

1464
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,400
Or and watched as the orb
quickly, floated away.

1465
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:25,800
And out of you, this would be
the last time they saw the orb

1466
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,800
on that night, but it would be
back.

1467
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:39,200
I don't put a lot of weight in
the orbs know, maybe after this

1468
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:48,000
next, this next bit you up,
Probably not, which orbs are you

1469
01:32:49,800 --> 01:32:52,200
do not believe in, because
they're just like, oh, kinds of

1470
01:32:52,208 --> 01:32:57,200
different orbs and just orbs in
general, you know, just anytime

1471
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:59,700
someone says anything about an
orb as whether it's, like,

1472
01:32:59,700 --> 01:33:05,500
Spirit orbs or ball, lightning
or alien, orbs or blue, orbs in

1473
01:33:05,500 --> 01:33:07,700
the woods, I just think it's all
baloney.

1474
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:10,000
We should go take a trip to
Marfa.

1475
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:16,100
To what I think it's Marfa, ma
RFA Texas, but you had a speech

1476
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:18,100
impediment there for a second.
Look up.

1477
01:33:18,400 --> 01:33:20,000
Look up.
The Marfa lights.

1478
01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:25,800
I want to say Yeah.
Marfa ma RFA.

1479
01:33:26,700 --> 01:33:31,600
These are these lights happen so
often that they actually built

1480
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,600
an observation deck for you to
watch them.

1481
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:38,100
From sounds like swamp, gas?
Yep.

1482
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:42,100
I don't know.
So not many swamps in the

1483
01:33:42,100 --> 01:33:48,100
deserts of Marfa Marfa lights.
Because they're gasps.

1484
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:51,200
Hmm, definitely.
Razor gasps you're fucking

1485
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:54,800
fastball.
Hmm.

1486
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:56,500
Do you see?
I mean I mean this is

1487
01:33:56,500 --> 01:34:00,100
interesting honestly these Marfa
lights but I mean you know,

1488
01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:02,900
again what I was saying and what
West was saying, as well, we

1489
01:34:02,907 --> 01:34:06,100
don't know what, you know,
interdimensional portals and

1490
01:34:06,100 --> 01:34:07,300
shit.
Look like, you know, we don't

1491
01:34:07,300 --> 01:34:10,800
know what any of that is, you
know.

1492
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:17,100
So I'm I still feel like it's
not some type of drone even

1493
01:34:18,700 --> 01:34:21,100
Marfa lights have been.
The Marfa lights have been seen

1494
01:34:21,100 --> 01:34:25,700
for far longer than drones
existent in general.

1495
01:34:25,700 --> 01:34:29,300
Like, who's to say, it's like if
it is an interdimensional thing,

1496
01:34:29,300 --> 01:34:33,500
they're coming through the rift.
And instead of them physically

1497
01:34:33,500 --> 01:34:35,600
coming through, they're just
sending this little drone

1498
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,100
through, kind of like it's like
they're drunk games or whatever.

1499
01:34:39,100 --> 01:34:41,900
Right.
So we send our drone over the

1500
01:34:41,900 --> 01:34:46,500
over, whatever to take pictures
of whatever.

1501
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,900
Why can't we What would stop
them from creating their own

1502
01:34:49,900 --> 01:34:53,700
version of a drone and that is
their drone, and they're taking

1503
01:34:53,700 --> 01:34:57,200
pictures and watching us?
And I mean, I feel like that's a

1504
01:34:57,200 --> 01:35:01,200
good good good.
I will say, I like sending a

1505
01:35:01,208 --> 01:35:04,200
drone in first would be, what we
would do, you know?

1506
01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:06,700
So it doesn't seem out of the
realm of possibility that

1507
01:35:07,000 --> 01:35:12,300
another tech, not
technologically advanced, you

1508
01:35:12,300 --> 01:35:17,000
know, race, whether they're in
this universe or different

1509
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,500
dimension.
Whatever it doesn't seem

1510
01:35:20,500 --> 01:35:22,400
far-fetched at, that's what they
would do also.

1511
01:35:23,300 --> 01:35:26,100
Hmm, it is us.
That's what I'm saying, dude.

1512
01:35:26,100 --> 01:35:28,600
It's us from the future man
because he's right.

1513
01:35:28,600 --> 01:35:31,600
That's exactly what we would do.
If we if we found out that there

1514
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,000
was a habitable planet on the
other side of the frickin

1515
01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:36,000
Galaxy, right?
And we just couldn't physically,

1516
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:40,000
get something there and less
than a million years, we might

1517
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:46,000
develop some way to Teleport,
some form of drone or some

1518
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:49,500
something there, so that we can
get some reading right and that

1519
01:35:49,500 --> 01:35:52,900
might be what these orbs are.
So I've said multiple times

1520
01:35:52,900 --> 01:35:55,100
that, you know, I don't
necessarily believe that we're

1521
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:59,400
able to, or any things really
able to travel through space,

1522
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:07,500
far distances and like light
years as the scale, but I mean,

1523
01:36:07,500 --> 01:36:09,300
you definitely can't do it in.
There you go.

1524
01:36:09,300 --> 01:36:11,900
West, you can't do it in a
lifetime.

1525
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:17,000
But you can definitely send a
drone to possibly go fast enough

1526
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:20,600
to be able to get here.
You can't really do it with a

1527
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,100
body because it just be
scrambled eggs on the opposite

1528
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:25,800
end.
But well, not necessarily, I

1529
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:30,700
mean, what that logic, if we can
send a drone that far that fast,

1530
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:35,700
we should be able to send
ourselves close to, if not the

1531
01:36:35,700 --> 01:36:38,900
same speed, you know, somewhere
just as far and fast.

1532
01:36:39,100 --> 01:36:45,100
You know, I think our limitation
is what we can send anything as

1533
01:36:45,100 --> 01:36:47,600
far and fast.
You know, that's our main

1534
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:50,000
limitation isn't necessarily
that our bodies can handle.

1535
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:54,300
It's just that we don't have the
technology to even do that yet.

1536
01:36:55,300 --> 01:36:57,900
All right, let's move on.
Unless Jeff.

1537
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:01,100
Did you have something started?
Nope, all right.

1538
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:03,000
It's almost vomited time, bro.
Hurry up.

1539
01:37:03,100 --> 01:37:07,500
I know because it's next one's
gonna probably cause a talking

1540
01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:16,700
point and I just want to State
for the listeners listener.

1541
01:37:16,700 --> 01:37:22,200
Discretion is advised.
Not that bad but pretty bad.

1542
01:37:23,700 --> 01:37:26,600
On a peaceful evening in April
of 1996.

1543
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:28,300
Terry.
Sherman would be outside.

1544
01:37:28,300 --> 01:37:31,200
Enjoying the nice weather with
his three loyal dogs.

1545
01:37:31,900 --> 01:37:36,600
Seemingly out of nowhere.
The dogs began to be unruly and

1546
01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:39,200
upset.
They were squealing barking

1547
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,700
pacing and Howling and Terry
could not understand what was

1548
01:37:42,700 --> 01:37:46,000
upsetting them.
Then a familiar blue light,

1549
01:37:46,000 --> 01:37:49,000
seemed to pop into existence
decent distance away.

1550
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,500
The orbs had become a common
sight to the Sherman's at this

1551
01:37:52,500 --> 01:37:55,000
point in time.
He never really did become

1552
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,400
comfortable with their
seemingly, consistent presence

1553
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:01,200
on this property, but Terry
watched as the or begin floating

1554
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,100
in his Direction before stopping
and shifting to the north about

1555
01:38:04,100 --> 01:38:08,900
100 yards away from him.
And his dogs, the dog seemed

1556
01:38:08,900 --> 01:38:14,400
really upset and Terry began to
understand that it was this orb

1557
01:38:14,500 --> 01:38:19,000
that was causing their issues.
This was enough for Terry, so he

1558
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:22,100
sent his dogs after the orb to
try and scare It Off.

1559
01:38:23,300 --> 01:38:26,600
The orb reacted by performing
acts that seemed like it was

1560
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:30,300
playing with the dogs.
It would float down and jump up

1561
01:38:30,300 --> 01:38:32,600
just as one of the dogs would
try to bite.

1562
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:37,200
It floated by their tails and
seemed to create a game of cat

1563
01:38:37,200 --> 01:38:40,200
and mouse that Terry didn't
realize was heading for the tree

1564
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:45,100
line of the nearby Woods before,
Terry could realize with the orb

1565
01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:49,200
was doing it lower down to a few
feet off the ground, and shot

1566
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,100
off quickly into the woods
Terry's.

1567
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:55,800
Dogs followed in Hot Pursuit as
they left, Terry's eyesight from

1568
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:59,200
the last time. the Sherman
property, echoed with the

1569
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:02,800
screams, and Yelps of the family
dogs before falling dead silent

1570
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:07,600
moments after Terry, couldn't
believe what just happened?

1571
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:11,200
He dropped into his foldable
chair and stared into the tree

1572
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,300
line hoping to see his dogs come
out.

1573
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:18,000
Nearly two hours later, mr.
Sherman stood up, walked back

1574
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:21,600
into his house alone, the next
morning.

1575
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:25,700
Terry Sherman gathered, the
strength to look for his dogs as

1576
01:39:25,700 --> 01:39:28,000
he entered the woods.
He was greeted with the stench

1577
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:30,900
of death.
Three piles of Flesh.

1578
01:39:30,900 --> 01:39:34,500
Fur, bone and blood sat
disheveled on the floor of the

1579
01:39:34,500 --> 01:39:36,700
woods.
His dogs were dead.

1580
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:41,200
This was obvious, but what
really bothered Terry Sherman

1581
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:46,100
was that they were intelligently
led into the woods to be

1582
01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:49,800
slaughtered this, he was not
okay with.

1583
01:39:50,500 --> 01:39:55,200
And the Sherman had finally had
enough with Skinwalker Ranch.

1584
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:02,100
Yeah, definitely be enough for
me to 100%.

1585
01:40:02,300 --> 01:40:07,100
Yep, I'd be very upset if I lost
any of my animals.

1586
01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:11,600
I mean I would have been out of
that place when I saw the wolf

1587
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:15,200
the first time personally, but
that's just me.

1588
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:20,200
This guy's a lot braver than I
am and he stuck it out much much

1589
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:28,200
longer.
So, Jake Jeff, I don't know.

1590
01:40:28,700 --> 01:40:33,700
It's just why would it need to
take the dogs into the woods to

1591
01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:37,400
kill them?
It's a big ball of blue light,

1592
01:40:37,900 --> 01:40:42,200
it does sort of seem convenient,
but maybe there is that scare

1593
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,900
factor that they're trying to
instill, whatever is behind all

1594
01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:47,600
of this.
Maybe they are trying to instill

1595
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,900
some sort of scare factor into
the Sherman's, maybe they are

1596
01:40:50,900 --> 01:40:52,400
trying to drive them off the
property.

1597
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:59,400
Or it's it's the whatever
creature whatever was handling

1598
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:04,600
the Drone didn't want to come
out of the woods so it used the

1599
01:41:04,608 --> 01:41:09,400
Drone to learn the dogs in and
then had its meal and maybe some

1600
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,400
with life.
This motherfuckers out of 30 at

1601
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:16,800
6:00, is there any like actual
proof of this stuff?

1602
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,700
Other than just like, you know,
multiple people having similar

1603
01:41:20,700 --> 01:41:25,600
stories?
I'm going to, I'm going to point

1604
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,200
you to the TV show, I know.
It sucks.

1605
01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,600
Right?
And then no, I mean I get it.

1606
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,600
And I know that stuff happens,
right?

1607
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,800
Like I'm familiar enough with
Skinwalker Ranch know, that

1608
01:41:34,800 --> 01:41:38,000
enough people experience things
to think that something's going

1609
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,400
on, right?
But also there's a part of me

1610
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:44,500
that's like, okay, well, how
much of all of the stories, not

1611
01:41:44,500 --> 01:41:46,000
just the ones that you're
talking about here, about how

1612
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:50,300
much of those are just made up
by people, or like I'm sure

1613
01:41:50,300 --> 01:41:51,800
maybe they believed chunk of
them are.

1614
01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:53,700
Yeah.
I'm sure.

1615
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,800
And maybe even, I mean, it's
like most things, right?

1616
01:41:56,800 --> 01:42:00,100
Most people do believe what they
see and stuff like that, whether

1617
01:42:00,100 --> 01:42:02,800
they see it or not, you know,
they believe it.

1618
01:42:02,900 --> 01:42:05,500
The experience is real for them.
So I'm wondering how much of

1619
01:42:05,500 --> 01:42:08,100
that is going on here.
Like I might even thinking is

1620
01:42:08,100 --> 01:42:14,300
like, is there some, you know,
random like weed that grows in

1621
01:42:14,300 --> 01:42:16,300
the area?
That's like psychedelic if you

1622
01:42:16,300 --> 01:42:18,700
breathe in the particles and
like these people are just

1623
01:42:18,700 --> 01:42:19,900
tripping balls.
All the time.

1624
01:42:19,900 --> 01:42:23,000
I have no idea.
Yeah, you know like who knows?

1625
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,700
No dude, I don't know I mean
it's good question but I would

1626
01:42:25,700 --> 01:42:30,900
assume that's been looked into,
you know, honestly to like to go

1627
01:42:30,900 --> 01:42:32,800
into it.
Jeff was saying, you know, with

1628
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:37,300
the exception of just a few
people having witnessed it like

1629
01:42:37,300 --> 01:42:43,400
I'm curious as to like the
similarities of the experiences

1630
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,700
between the people because just
because a bunch of people have

1631
01:42:45,700 --> 01:42:49,200
the or say that they had the
exact same experience, doesn't

1632
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,400
necessarily mean that it's true.
As a matter of fact, fabricated

1633
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:59,600
stories, Then have like, uncanny
uncannily similar situations

1634
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,000
like multiple people seeing the
same thing, but they all say,

1635
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,700
the same thing, doesn't
necessarily mean that the thing

1636
01:43:04,700 --> 01:43:07,700
was true, it could mean that
they're all fabricating the same

1637
01:43:07,700 --> 01:43:10,800
story because people have
different, you know, different

1638
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:13,800
Vantage points.
People will see different colors

1639
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:15,100
like you.
And I could look at the same

1640
01:43:15,100 --> 01:43:18,500
shade of blue and I could say
that's royal blue and you could

1641
01:43:18,500 --> 01:43:22,900
say well that's more purple
because you know our perceptions

1642
01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:27,800
Change based off of based off
individuals like so I wonder you

1643
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,400
know think that's the same as
you know these people saying

1644
01:43:31,400 --> 01:43:34,900
that they all saw this giant
wolf-like creature or whatever.

1645
01:43:35,300 --> 01:43:37,100
You know?
That's I don't know.

1646
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:41,100
It comes when it comes to color.
Everyone does have you know

1647
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:45,700
their own interpretation of what
that color is to them right and

1648
01:43:45,700 --> 01:43:48,900
even there's a difference
between male and female looking

1649
01:43:48,900 --> 01:43:52,100
at color, you know?
That's that's a known Quantified

1650
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:56,400
fact.
But when it comes to these

1651
01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:59,700
things, I don't know.
I I don't necessarily believe

1652
01:43:59,700 --> 01:44:03,400
that just because they all have
the same story means that it

1653
01:44:03,400 --> 01:44:07,600
could, it's more likely to be a
fabrication because more often

1654
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:14,200
than not when people have a
story that where they, each have

1655
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:18,100
their own version of it, I think
more people believe that to be a

1656
01:44:18,100 --> 01:44:21,600
lie rather than something that
actually happened, you know.

1657
01:44:21,900 --> 01:44:24,800
Well, I just mean more like,
Like people notice different

1658
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,400
things.
So if everyone had the exact

1659
01:44:27,400 --> 01:44:32,100
same experiences, everyone said
we all saw a big giant gray wolf

1660
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:37,000
or whatever it was it would be,
you know, someone might say

1661
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:40,700
well, the pause on that thing
were gigantic where the ears on

1662
01:44:40,700 --> 01:44:43,800
it or did you see the teeth or
whatever they're fixated on it?

1663
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,100
You know, something different
than another person?

1664
01:44:46,300 --> 01:44:48,800
So then together you could have
a combined story, but if

1665
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:51,800
everyone's saying I saw this
giant wolf, I saw this giant

1666
01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:53,300
wolf.
I saw this giant wolf and Was

1667
01:44:53,300 --> 01:44:55,800
different amongst all do things
that doesn't necessarily mean

1668
01:44:55,800 --> 01:44:58,500
that that situation actually
happened just because they're

1669
01:44:58,500 --> 01:44:59,800
still there.
Hold on.

1670
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,200
Hold on.
Just just a second list and step

1671
01:45:02,200 --> 01:45:07,900
in here, just for a second.
So the sources that I used that,

1672
01:45:07,900 --> 01:45:10,800
I left this out, just because I
thought it was irrelevant but

1673
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,500
maybe it's not.
Yeah, show me where

1674
01:45:13,500 --> 01:45:17,700
investigators Terry's, father
Terry's father, when the wolf

1675
01:45:17,700 --> 01:45:24,300
came and Terry was petting, the
dog wolf thing Was fascinated

1676
01:45:24,300 --> 01:45:28,700
with this thing's blue eyes.
I put in the description of it

1677
01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:32,200
in my write-up that it had blue
eyes but I didn't focus on it.

1678
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:37,000
Like Terry's, father reported to
anybody.

1679
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:39,900
I mean till this day are not
till this day, I mean, I'm

1680
01:45:39,900 --> 01:45:43,800
pretty sure he's dead by now,
but every time he told his story

1681
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:48,500
to anybody, it was reported that
he's always mentioned the blue

1682
01:45:48,500 --> 01:45:51,500
eyes and Terry doesn't
necessarily even remember blue

1683
01:45:51,500 --> 01:45:54,400
eyes.
Why you gotta, You Gotta Throw

1684
01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,400
the stuff in there so I can.
Like, do you also have to run

1685
01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:59,500
with it?
I know, but you got to

1686
01:45:59,500 --> 01:46:03,100
understand that I'm just I'm
writing up something that you're

1687
01:46:03,100 --> 01:46:08,300
supposed to take, you know, fuck
our 10 hours to go through.

1688
01:46:08,300 --> 01:46:12,800
I mean this is a thick book, you
know, one of them and I read 433

1689
01:46:13,700 --> 01:46:16,000
well do that.
Does do the Sherman's have any

1690
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,900
like video evidence of any of
this stuff or are pictures or

1691
01:46:19,900 --> 01:46:22,100
anything like that?
I mean ranchers.

1692
01:46:22,100 --> 01:46:25,800
Why would they have Have their
ranchers experiencing something

1693
01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,300
that's different than any other
experience as far as they know

1694
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,500
why would there not be any video
evidence of it.

1695
01:46:32,500 --> 01:46:35,000
I mean I grew up in the 90s
that's not always the cameras in

1696
01:46:35,008 --> 01:46:36,500
the 90s.
There was no camera.

1697
01:46:36,500 --> 01:46:38,400
No.
I know, I'm not saying that but

1698
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:42,200
they're ranchers.
They live off the land or off

1699
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,800
raising livestock.
You know, they're not, they

1700
01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:50,200
people that are in that are work
on farms or Ranch hands or

1701
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,500
anything like that.
Don't tend to be the most Now

1702
01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:57,500
technologically, savvy people,
right canceled canceled.

1703
01:46:57,500 --> 01:47:01,900
He's saying that ranchers are so
I'm just saying back then like

1704
01:47:01,900 --> 01:47:07,800
you were like he's back with his
do that from sunup to sundown, I

1705
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,500
mean I've been there done it
myself, like you don't got time,

1706
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:14,700
you don't got time for that at
the very least, cattle

1707
01:47:14,700 --> 01:47:19,800
mutilations dead dogs, some sort
of Craft on your property.

1708
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:22,500
I would think that there is
Criminal Trespass going on at

1709
01:47:22,500 --> 01:47:26,300
the very Very least yet.
You know what are you going to

1710
01:47:26,300 --> 01:47:28,200
go to?
You're going to go to the local

1711
01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:30,700
law enforcement and tell him, I
seen this giant.

1712
01:47:32,100 --> 01:47:33,500
So you're going to take my
through, you're going to take a

1713
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,600
photograph of it or video of it
and you're going to say this is

1714
01:47:37,600 --> 01:47:40,700
what I thought but but let this
is the this is the have you

1715
01:47:40,700 --> 01:47:45,400
power unit and these things
happen is they're they're doing

1716
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:47,900
these other things on the ranch
when it happens, they're not

1717
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:52,900
everybody just has a cell phone
and a camera in there.

1718
01:47:53,000 --> 01:47:54,900
Pocket.
No, I grew up in the 90s.

1719
01:47:54,900 --> 01:47:57,500
I am aware of how, how video
cameras worked.

1720
01:47:57,500 --> 01:48:03,000
But these things were happening.
Often enough that there were

1721
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:05,900
like, and this was the final
straw because these orbs kept

1722
01:48:05,900 --> 01:48:08,100
coming back, or we kept seeing,
what aren't shimmery, what am I

1723
01:48:08,100 --> 01:48:10,900
trying to say?
What I'm trying to say is, is

1724
01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:29,000
they're not going to go.
Thought is okay, this thing's

1725
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,700
attacking a calf.
Let me take a picture of it.

1726
01:48:31,700 --> 01:48:34,300
No, that's not their first
thought the first thought when

1727
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:36,700
they see this thing isn't.
Oh my God.

1728
01:48:36,900 --> 01:48:39,500
It has such big paws.
They're probably just like, oh,

1729
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:42,200
I'm talking about the events,
you know, like over and over and

1730
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:43,600
over and over and over again.
Yeah.

1731
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:46,400
But what about well, what I was
trying to get to was, they're

1732
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:50,800
out doing other things and then
this these events happened while

1733
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:54,100
they're like just randomly you
Like they're not sitting around

1734
01:48:54,100 --> 01:48:57,500
all the front porch waiting for
with a freaking giant.

1735
01:48:57,500 --> 01:49:00,500
You know, my dad's video camera
he had back in the 90s was

1736
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,200
massive you know you fucking
hold it on your shoulder, you

1737
01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:06,200
know?
Like I'm not going to be I don't

1738
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:09,800
I can't imagine just this guy
you know freaking having this

1739
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:13,000
giant video camera just sitting
on his front porch, waiting for

1740
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:17,000
something to happen like you
know do we even know if they had

1741
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,800
electricity like On the Ranch at
the time.

1742
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:25,700
Like, come on, like it's all
right, refrigerator.

1743
01:49:49,100 --> 01:49:51,400
All check out this picture of
this, this flying fridge.

1744
01:49:51,400 --> 01:49:55,100
I saw, they know they're not
going to go tell people that I

1745
01:49:55,100 --> 01:49:57,800
mean come on they told them
their name eventually

1746
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:02,500
eventually.
Yeah eventually but back then

1747
01:50:02,700 --> 01:50:05,800
what do you think it would have
done to the reputation you know

1748
01:50:05,800 --> 01:50:08,700
the say that they're trying to
make a living off, you know

1749
01:50:08,700 --> 01:50:11,900
livestock and whatnot and then
they're going to start talking

1750
01:50:11,900 --> 01:50:14,200
about all this crazy shit
happened on the ranch.

1751
01:50:14,200 --> 01:50:17,000
See, this is be like, I don't
want nothing to do with anything

1752
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:20,900
you're doing or selling or
whatever this podcast people are

1753
01:50:20,900 --> 01:50:23,500
gonna say your cows are now
haunted.

1754
01:50:23,500 --> 01:50:27,100
And if I take that cowl, Where
they become haunted?

1755
01:50:27,200 --> 01:50:34,800
No, I mean The best, the best
cow butt holes around like

1756
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:38,400
you're gonna pass that up.
But all I'm saying, this podcast

1757
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:43,000
is, this podcast has got me in
such a way that I'm actually

1758
01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:48,700
looking at purchasing a decent
amount of property when I get

1759
01:50:48,700 --> 01:50:51,700
out here in like a year.
And if any of this craziness

1760
01:50:51,700 --> 01:50:55,800
happens on that piece of
property, like it's getting shot

1761
01:50:55,900 --> 01:50:59,100
before I even find out what it
is like, I'm just gonna be is

1762
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:02,800
momentum in this day and age.
So in this, I mean, just talking

1763
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:04,800
about all this stuff is just
it's going to put me in this

1764
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:09,300
moment of just like it's the
aliens and they're coming for me

1765
01:51:09,700 --> 01:51:12,800
and in this day and age, that
that would be a lot of people's

1766
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,900
first thought is, oh, let me
take my phone out and record

1767
01:51:15,900 --> 01:51:17,800
this or whatever or whatever I
have with me.

1768
01:51:18,100 --> 01:51:21,900
Let me try to gather some
evidence of some sort, you know?

1769
01:51:21,900 --> 01:51:24,500
Like this is crazy.
Like I need to post this online.

1770
01:51:24,700 --> 01:51:26,800
People aren't going to believe
this unless they see it back

1771
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:30,600
then they're probably had the
opposite thought, like I ain't

1772
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:32,900
tell him.
Nobody about anything I saw

1773
01:51:32,900 --> 01:51:35,000
because they're going to think
I'm fucking crazy inside me to

1774
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:40,100
the loony bin.
Yeah, like there was an elephant

1775
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:42,200
and a picture would change all
of that.

1776
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:46,500
If you had an image of it, not
true, not necessarily, because

1777
01:51:46,500 --> 01:51:49,000
look, what's on my property?
Look, how many pictures are

1778
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,800
Bigfoot.
I was Yep.

1779
01:51:51,800 --> 01:51:53,100
Well this is just a picture
though.

1780
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,600
It's just like me.
We have the patterson/gimlin

1781
01:51:55,600 --> 01:51:58,400
filmed and people still believe
Bigfoot doesn't exist.

1782
01:51:58,900 --> 01:52:02,700
Well that's beside the many, how
many pictures and videos of UFOs

1783
01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:07,900
are there, you know like that
and people like oh that's BS.

1784
01:52:08,100 --> 01:52:10,100
What happened in the government
finally comes out as the

1785
01:52:10,100 --> 01:52:13,400
government is not going to look
at the Pirates and gimlin

1786
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:17,400
Bigfoot Film which is good.
We brought in Bigfoot but or

1787
01:52:17,400 --> 01:52:19,900
like the picture of the UFOs or
whatever and you could say I

1788
01:52:19,900 --> 01:52:22,100
don't believe.
That that is what people are

1789
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:27,100
saying it is, but unless it's
obviously CGI, you can't say,

1790
01:52:27,300 --> 01:52:30,500
but there was no object there.
So in this circumstance even if

1791
01:52:30,500 --> 01:52:32,800
they had an image of it, if no
one believed it and they're just

1792
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,200
like or it was like me and I'm
like, I don't believe that ball

1793
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:37,900
lightning is real or whatever.
You know, I could be wrong, I

1794
01:52:37,907 --> 01:52:40,000
don't care.
But, you know, I could see an

1795
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:45,100
image of a light over a over
field and say, you know, yeah

1796
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:49,200
but you're whatever it is but it
would remove the light from the

1797
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:51,600
field where you're, you know,
You're talking about you taking

1798
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:54,300
a picture of this thing with a
disposable camera with a fixed

1799
01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:56,900
aperture.
Fixed lens fixed book, better

1800
01:52:56,900 --> 01:53:00,000
than just the word Mound.
Everything the in this thing is

1801
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:04,200
apparently moving and and moving
in an intelligent way, they're

1802
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:05,500
going to try to take a picture
of it.

1803
01:53:05,500 --> 01:53:08,400
It's going to end up being like
a squiggly line, like people

1804
01:53:08,500 --> 01:53:12,300
like to say, oh look at this.
You have people like dude.

1805
01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:15,300
That's like, I don't know.
I mean it certainly could but

1806
01:53:15,300 --> 01:53:19,200
unless they tried never know.
Now, let's say that they had.

1807
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:25,100
Recorder a video, a video camera
and they set that up outside.

1808
01:53:25,100 --> 01:53:27,900
Who's to say that this thing is
not messing with that and every

1809
01:53:27,900 --> 01:53:30,400
time it passes in front you just
get a fuzzy picture.

1810
01:53:30,600 --> 01:53:32,600
It's just messing with the
frequency.

1811
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:34,800
It's actually funny.
You bring that up, I'm sure

1812
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,300
Jamie's going to get into it.
I don't know about being in this

1813
01:53:38,300 --> 01:53:42,300
episode because we're already on
nearly two hours but they're

1814
01:53:42,300 --> 01:53:43,800
all.
We have at least another hour

1815
01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:48,300
and a half on this episode.
I'm just kidding Jeff laughs.

1816
01:53:48,300 --> 01:53:49,600
I'm just messing with you not
with me.

1817
01:53:49,700 --> 01:53:53,600
Me at all.
I don't want to spoil nothing

1818
01:53:53,600 --> 01:53:57,000
but there is some things with
video cameras later on, I'm

1819
01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:02,100
hoping, Jeremy covers.
It needs needs gets pretty

1820
01:54:02,100 --> 01:54:06,600
technology-driven.
They bring all this in Jake,

1821
01:54:06,600 --> 01:54:10,100
just so, you know, and crazy
shit happens.

1822
01:54:10,100 --> 01:54:14,000
And yeah, that's all I'm going
to say, look, all I'm saying is

1823
01:54:14,000 --> 01:54:16,200
that both of your circumstances
that you just threw out there?

1824
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:19,500
Were just both what-ifs, right?
What if he took a picture and

1825
01:54:19,500 --> 01:54:22,300
then you got this streaky line.
And what if If what if they try

1826
01:54:22,300 --> 01:54:25,200
to video, you know, videotape it
and they got like, the all this

1827
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:27,700
fuzz and solid stuff.
The point is I'm trying to make,

1828
01:54:27,700 --> 01:54:30,600
is that this was a circle, a
bunch of different things were

1829
01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:35,200
happening, all that all the time
and we don't know if that would

1830
01:54:35,200 --> 01:54:37,500
have been the case.
Because as far as we know, they

1831
01:54:37,500 --> 01:54:42,000
didn't even attempt to because
in even if you were, took away

1832
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:45,700
all the crazy paranormal stuff
away and just said in the night,

1833
01:54:45,700 --> 01:54:48,100
there could be someone's
screwing with my property

1834
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:51,300
attacking my livelihood, I need
to do something.

1835
01:54:51,500 --> 01:54:54,700
That I have legal representation
to say this is what's on my

1836
01:54:54,700 --> 01:54:56,800
property.
Even if it's just like a light

1837
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:58,900
and you could say, I don't know,
it's a helicopter light, you're

1838
01:54:58,900 --> 01:55:00,200
good.
You got to tell someone who

1839
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:03,800
works works a ranch for a living
that they need to get legal

1840
01:55:03,800 --> 01:55:05,700
representation.
Most of those guys are going to

1841
01:55:05,708 --> 01:55:09,200
take into their own hands and
handle it themselves.

1842
01:55:10,100 --> 01:55:13,400
Nine times out of ten did he
call the even evil moving?

1843
01:55:13,500 --> 01:55:17,700
Even to this day?
These guys that's what they

1844
01:55:17,700 --> 01:55:21,200
that's what they do.
Like I'm not going to call the

1845
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:23,700
cops.
Ops for I think someone's on my

1846
01:55:23,700 --> 01:55:26,500
property whatever I'm going to
have my gun, I'm gonna light

1847
01:55:26,500 --> 01:55:28,900
them up if I get the chance you
know, I don't know.

1848
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:31,500
I'm going to do something that's
for.

1849
01:55:31,500 --> 01:55:34,600
Damn sure.
And obviously they weren't just

1850
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,000
sitting around just letting this
stuff happen, they were trying

1851
01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:43,600
to like figure it out in their
own way but I mean back then

1852
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:47,200
your I don't think people's
first thought is oh man, there's

1853
01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:49,700
a floating light over there over
my property.

1854
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:51,300
Let me go get legal
representation.

1855
01:55:51,500 --> 01:55:56,200
Should not add a forget, prove
him so I can you know my shirts

1856
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,200
want to be the person in this
picture.

1857
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:00,600
At least it doesn't look like a
person so that I'm not liable

1858
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:03,000
for their death.
You know, like come on now, I'd

1859
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:06,100
say more along the lines of this
is this is this ridiculous.

1860
01:56:06,800 --> 01:56:09,700
Well, not the first one, but if
this is a common enough thing

1861
01:56:09,700 --> 01:56:13,400
that it's just like it's
becoming a bothersome events,

1862
01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:18,800
technically what like methane
because all a majority of these

1863
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:21,300
events are different, different
things.

1864
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:23,600
And just to be on the water
cool.

1865
01:56:24,500 --> 01:56:30,100
Dude, he's gonna be like I just
sit there and listen to two

1866
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:33,300
shows argue for like right.
Let's projecting the show thing

1867
01:56:33,300 --> 01:56:36,800
on making sound.
One simple question, if there

1868
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,900
was any physical proof and here
we are 20 minutes.

1869
01:56:41,600 --> 01:56:44,100
So the answer is no.
Because other things may have

1870
01:56:44,100 --> 01:56:46,700
happened to the physical proof.
We've got rad we got them know

1871
01:56:46,700 --> 01:56:51,900
right off the bat because a
couple of children Argue about

1872
01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:54,800
it.
I'm not saying that okay look

1873
01:56:55,000 --> 01:56:58,500
just because there's no just
because there's no pictures or

1874
01:56:58,500 --> 01:57:00,800
videos doesn't mean.
I don't think that the things

1875
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:02,300
weren't happening.
I believe these people were

1876
01:57:02,300 --> 01:57:04,900
experiencing things.
That was just curious if there

1877
01:57:04,900 --> 01:57:08,200
was something more than the
modern shit that we have not

1878
01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:09,900
because he has, I can go watch
the show.

1879
01:57:09,900 --> 01:57:13,100
And yes, I have seen things that
people have documented on

1880
01:57:13,100 --> 01:57:17,500
Skinwalker Ranch, but I was
curious if like they had it at

1881
01:57:17,500 --> 01:57:21,100
the time and I can understand
why they wouldn't, but Because

1882
01:57:21,100 --> 01:57:22,800
they're making it up.
It's right.

1883
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:27,900
Let me, let me take this.
This lump of Firkin mass of

1884
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:31,200
Flesh and Bones.
That's all just in a pile in the

1885
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:33,000
woods.
Let me put it in a bag and put

1886
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:34,900
it in the freezer.
So I can show the someone, then

1887
01:57:34,900 --> 01:57:38,300
people are gonna think I fucking
like round up my damn dogs.

1888
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:41,900
All right, Invincible wolf.
That would be something that

1889
01:57:41,900 --> 01:57:44,800
you'd want to save and be like,
what the heck is this?

1890
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:51,500
Let's move on.
We did it.

1891
01:57:51,500 --> 01:57:56,200
We did enough.
Okay, let's move before Jeff

1892
01:57:56,200 --> 01:58:00,300
quit.
It's my bedtime last one.

1893
01:58:00,700 --> 01:58:05,500
All right, last one.
A few more before you go, the

1894
01:58:05,500 --> 01:58:09,600
unknown entities, that haunt the
property, had a victim, another

1895
01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:13,500
family from Land, the Sherman's
would break their Silence about

1896
01:58:13,500 --> 01:58:18,000
what had been going on.
And a story was published A 1996

1897
01:58:18,000 --> 01:58:22,600
edition of the desert newspaper.
There was this article that

1898
01:58:22,608 --> 01:58:24,400
would bring in the next owner of
this.

1899
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:28,700
Now, famous haunted, famously
haunted, property, billionaire

1900
01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:31,000
and Las Vegas.
Businessman mr.

1901
01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:34,500
Robert Bigelow, but a few days
before.

1902
01:58:34,500 --> 01:58:37,000
Mr. Bigelow would take ownership
of the property.

1903
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:42,100
The Sherman's would have one
more Unforgettable incident for

1904
01:58:42,100 --> 01:58:47,700
their final farewell, the day
was quiet and the last the

1905
01:58:47,700 --> 01:58:52,100
chores, they would ever perform
on their dream property were

1906
01:58:52,100 --> 01:58:57,800
done Terry and Gwen Sherman went
to sleep like any other, but

1907
01:58:57,800 --> 01:59:00,600
when they woke up, they were
shocked to find that the sheets

1908
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:03,800
that they were fast asleep on
were covered in blood.

1909
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:08,100
They soon realized that a scoop
of their own flesh was missing

1910
01:59:08,100 --> 01:59:09,700
out of each of their right
thumbs.

1911
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:13,400
Although many would hear this
final story of the Sherman's, as

1912
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:17,000
the owners of the ranch, as
nothing more than a story about

1913
01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:19,800
injuries on their thumbs from a
long day of chores on a rough

1914
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:23,200
Ranch Utah.
But many researchers in alien,

1915
01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:27,100
abductions have pointed out that
this is a common sign of a visit

1916
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:31,200
from an extraterrestrial entity
Soon, after the release of the

1917
01:59:31,200 --> 01:59:34,800
Sherman Ranch story in the
desert News newspaper, a man

1918
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:38,500
come knocking on the door of the
Sherman's asking for permission

1919
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:42,800
to meditate on their property.
The man had read the article and

1920
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:46,100
thought that what was happening
on the ranch was not spiritual

1921
01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:49,800
are not Supernatural in nature,
but rather spiritual and wanted

1922
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:52,200
the opportunity to connect with
the phenomenon.

1923
01:59:52,900 --> 01:59:55,700
The Sherman's, reluctantly
allowed, the man to do what he

1924
01:59:55,700 --> 01:59:59,100
wanted to do.
This man chose a place in the

1925
01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:02,100
field.
The edge of the tree line here.

1926
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:06,200
The man raises hands to the sky
and closes eyes a few minutes

1927
02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:08,900
pass in the Sherman's watched.
As they believe the foolish man

1928
02:00:08,900 --> 02:00:12,300
was wasting his time.
Terry was first to see the

1929
02:00:12,300 --> 02:00:15,400
movement in the tree line.
It was as if something was

1930
02:00:15,400 --> 02:00:19,000
walking along the bushes and
Tall Grass, but nothing was

1931
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:22,300
there.
Mr. Sherman argued that there

1932
02:00:22,300 --> 02:00:25,700
was in fact, something there and
that in the area in which the

1933
02:00:25,700 --> 02:00:29,000
plant matter was moving, he
could see the pixelated outline

1934
02:00:29,000 --> 02:00:33,100
of a no Upright, being whatever
it was shortly after the

1935
02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:35,600
Sherman's noticed.
It, it began to move very

1936
02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:39,200
quickly towards the man and
stopped just inches away from

1937
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:45,100
him, then an awfully loud, yell
belted from the anomaly and the

1938
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:48,100
meditating man fell over
backwards and sat frightened

1939
02:00:48,100 --> 02:00:51,300
lie, still on the ground.
The Predator esque.

1940
02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:55,000
Anomaly quickly, retreated back
into the wood line and Terry

1941
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:58,600
random and Terry and his son,
help the man, get back to his

1942
02:00:58,600 --> 02:01:01,900
car.
He was never seen again but this

1943
02:01:01,900 --> 02:01:04,800
was it.
The Sherman's finally sold the

1944
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:08,900
ranch to Robert Bigelow and took
the proceeds from the sale and

1945
02:01:08,900 --> 02:01:13,600
purchased another Ranch about 20
miles away and then the man

1946
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:17,800
started the Predator franchise.
Actually, I want to say the

1947
02:01:17,808 --> 02:01:23,500
Predator came out before this
Yeah, Jake sounds like it was

1948
02:01:23,500 --> 02:01:29,400
fake then, I mean make sense.
Dude, in my opinion, the inter

1949
02:01:29,400 --> 02:01:32,500
dimensional realm, and the
spirit realm or one in the same.

1950
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:38,200
So, Well yeah.
You know this guy saying it was

1951
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:43,800
this is spiritual.
You know, whatever Predator came

1952
02:01:43,800 --> 02:01:47,700
out in 87 for the record.
Such a good movie, good baby.

1953
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:52,600
So if you got a plate being
somewhat got no, I'm late again.

1954
02:01:53,700 --> 02:01:56,500
Anyways.
So what'd you guys think, first

1955
02:01:56,500 --> 02:01:59,000
episode of Skinwalker Ranch is
in the books?

1956
02:02:00,200 --> 02:02:02,200
I dig it and it's good.
I still want to go.

1957
02:02:02,200 --> 02:02:04,200
Let's go field trip.
You can't.

1958
02:02:05,200 --> 02:02:07,600
Yeah, it's a yes.
Because there were you'll see

1959
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:11,700
the wires you can't.
I Ham.

1960
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,500
I can do whatever I want to do
my parents.

1961
02:02:14,500 --> 02:02:21,200
Don't, I'm a sovereign citizen
rules, don't apply to me.

1962
02:02:21,700 --> 02:02:24,300
That's right, that's right.
I'm Michael Cera, I can do

1963
02:02:24,300 --> 02:02:31,200
anything, probably the way it
that to Moses was good.

1964
02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:34,600
I definitely think that it is
some sort of interdimensional,

1965
02:02:35,300 --> 02:02:39,500
you know, entities tampering
with people for who knows what

1966
02:02:39,500 --> 02:02:42,800
reason could speculate all All
day long, but a lot of the

1967
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:45,300
sounds a lot to me.
Like, it's nuts-and-bolts

1968
02:02:45,300 --> 02:02:49,400
technology.
Seems like magic, you know,

1969
02:02:49,400 --> 02:02:53,400
because it's so Advanced.
But in my opinion it's some form

1970
02:02:53,400 --> 02:03:00,800
of technological manipulation.
Probing experimentation.

1971
02:03:00,900 --> 02:03:02,200
Who the fuck?
Knows?

1972
02:03:03,200 --> 02:03:07,800
That's what I think yeah dude
heinous probing in the the cow

1973
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:14,400
but yet yeah you know good old
rectal probe Geo farming.

1974
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:16,900
I don't know Jake you're not a
not a big fan of this one, huh?

1975
02:03:17,800 --> 02:03:26,000
No I am.
Oh yeah I couldn't tell Jake I

1976
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:32,300
got danis her danis I got Dennis
Rader freaking attacking me over

1977
02:03:32,300 --> 02:03:38,300
here.
About 800 dramatic.

1978
02:03:38,300 --> 02:03:42,000
What the fuck is it?
That's a call for I'll take it.

1979
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:50,500
Michael Cera over the BTK killer
any day but now II dig it it's a

1980
02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:52,500
I'm gonna where can I find the
show?

1981
02:03:53,000 --> 02:03:56,100
First of all, History Channel.
I mean you got Hulu you got, you

1982
02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:56,900
got.
All right.

1983
02:03:56,900 --> 02:03:58,600
Well then I'm going to binge
watch all of it.

1984
02:03:58,900 --> 02:04:01,200
I'm going to watch all of it
because I want to see because

1985
02:04:01,200 --> 02:04:04,600
you were talking about like The
llamas are the alpacas or

1986
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:06,800
whatever being black because
that's exactly what it was.

1987
02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:11,700
I want to see if this is like
Because I don't know, I've never

1988
02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:15,400
seen any sort of like a Cryptid
show or an alien show, where

1989
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:18,300
things weren't like this is,
what could have happened, you

1990
02:04:18,308 --> 02:04:21,300
know, sort of stuff, like, where
it's actual investigative

1991
02:04:21,300 --> 02:04:24,100
report.
You know, that's not, that's not

1992
02:04:24,300 --> 02:04:26,700
like Ghost Hunters, right?
Where they're just like, you

1993
02:04:26,700 --> 02:04:30,200
know, the camera man pushes the
host into the wall and he's

1994
02:04:30,200 --> 02:04:33,300
like, you know, or something
like that or they just pretend

1995
02:04:33,300 --> 02:04:37,400
to see something, you know, I
mean all those actually have

1996
02:04:37,400 --> 02:04:44,100
right has a bit of extra drama
at to like that without a doubt,

1997
02:04:44,200 --> 02:04:47,200
I don't think there's a single
show out there on any major

1998
02:04:47,200 --> 02:04:50,700
Network that doesn't have some
form of that in it.

1999
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:57,800
And there is some some, you
know, like secondhand cringe in

2000
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:00,300
that show, you know, from when I
was watching it.

2001
02:05:00,300 --> 02:05:05,100
But there is some like, really
weird stuff that you know, if If

2002
02:05:05,100 --> 02:05:08,600
it's true, you know is actually
happened.

2003
02:05:08,600 --> 02:05:12,300
It does it is like really weird.
It makes you think what in the

2004
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:16,200
hell is gone?
When they pull out that magnet

2005
02:05:16,200 --> 02:05:20,600
that rolling magnet, the thing
that Maps out the ground

2006
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:24,400
underneath your feet and they
found those humps underneath the

2007
02:05:24,400 --> 02:05:25,400
ground.
I was like, huh?

2008
02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:27,500
It's perhaps that's pretty
interesting.

2009
02:05:28,500 --> 02:05:32,500
And then there's a couple times
where a UFO spots comes up and

2010
02:05:32,500 --> 02:05:34,400
they actually show it to you on
the show.

2011
02:05:36,200 --> 02:05:41,000
Where there was one time where
the cow died and there was a UFO

2012
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:45,000
right over its fucking head,
man.

2013
02:05:45,000 --> 02:05:49,100
I got to get a VPN so I can
watch this and they have it

2014
02:05:49,700 --> 02:05:53,500
expressvpn.
They, they show you that they

2015
02:05:53,500 --> 02:05:57,200
show you the, the security
camera of the thing fucking

2016
02:05:57,200 --> 02:06:01,400
bleeding.
You know, its head off and a UFO

2017
02:06:01,400 --> 02:06:03,100
is just above the tree, right?
Above it.

2018
02:06:04,100 --> 02:06:06,300
So, I mean, there's some
interesting stuff.

2019
02:06:06,300 --> 02:06:09,100
I don't I can't say that
everything on there is real

2020
02:06:09,100 --> 02:06:10,500
because it's fucking
entertainment.

2021
02:06:10,500 --> 02:06:15,600
It's on TV, right?
But you know, I don't know, man.

2022
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:17,600
It be.
Yeah, I'll check it out.

2023
02:06:17,700 --> 02:06:20,600
I mean, and I like the, I like
the topic I liked the episode

2024
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:22,700
but you know me, I don't believe
in any of this stuff and I'm not

2025
02:06:22,700 --> 02:06:25,200
going to change just because
they might have been, you know,

2026
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:27,900
dumb Farm hands didn't know how
to work a digital camera.

2027
02:06:28,000 --> 02:06:32,400
Oh geez unless it was how much
do they pay you to say that?

2028
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:34,800
Jake.
I'm not going to change for

2029
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:39,000
anyone gets offended, I just
because of that, but that's what

2030
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:43,700
you said, but that's not what I
said to figure it out and it

2031
02:06:43,700 --> 02:06:50,600
even have like but electricity
was no.

2032
02:06:51,500 --> 02:06:54,600
But you know I yeah, I'm digging
it.

2033
02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:56,100
Because it's like, it's like
anything, right?

2034
02:06:56,100 --> 02:06:57,900
It's like the Kecksburg UFO and
stuff.

2035
02:06:58,300 --> 02:07:00,600
There was towards the end of it.
It's like, all right.

2036
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:03,000
Well, here's the story.
And here's all the stuff going

2037
02:07:03,000 --> 02:07:04,900
on.
Now let's actually break this

2038
02:07:04,900 --> 02:07:08,500
down to stuff that we know, you
know, it could be a possibility

2039
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:10,400
for the circumstance or
whatever.

2040
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:12,800
So that's you know what I'm
doing and I have to find the

2041
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:14,600
holes and the holes in this
circumstance.

2042
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:18,800
Is if it was such a huge issue
that it was a constant thing,

2043
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:23,000
then they're in my mind would
have been some effort to have

2044
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:25,900
said, well I'm going to try.
It's a picture of anything

2045
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:27,400
because as far as I know, all
I'm saying.

2046
02:07:27,400 --> 02:07:30,400
Is that you're currently signed?
Yeah.

2047
02:07:30,900 --> 02:07:34,000
But that's what I have.
No qualms of what is your I

2048
02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:37,800
ain't going to pay.
Come on, I can go back in time

2049
02:07:38,200 --> 02:07:41,200
and ask someone what their state
of mind was.

2050
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:44,500
I have my own personal, you
know, Viewpoint of stuff.

2051
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:48,900
All right, Gentlemen, Just
because you're 50 and, you know,

2052
02:07:48,900 --> 02:07:54,700
Jeff is, I don't know, right
now, every word you speak Nails.

2053
02:07:54,700 --> 02:07:59,400
Another nail into his coffin.
Welcome DED.

2054
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:03,700
DED Dead.
All right.

2055
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:05,700
Well, that's been another
episode of the infinite realm,

2056
02:08:05,700 --> 02:08:08,800
whole podcast.
No input from Jeff.

2057
02:08:09,800 --> 02:08:17,200
Thank you for accepting our
bullshit for two years, Jake.

2058
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:19,200
I can't believe we've done this
for two years man, it's pretty

2059
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:21,300
cool.
We should kill it.

2060
02:08:21,300 --> 02:08:26,900
We just cut it off, I'll dig and
we got, we have a ton more to go

2061
02:08:27,000 --> 02:08:30,500
an absolute fuck.
Ton of content left to go.

2062
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:33,700
We still haven't even done
anything on my list.

2063
02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:36,100
That made for everybody.
None of it's been done.

2064
02:08:37,000 --> 02:08:40,900
So that's good because everyone
has been doing topics that

2065
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:43,300
relate to them and not to me,
which is great.

2066
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:47,200
Yeah, that's it feels great to
be back everybody.

2067
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:51,100
Thank you for listening.
And we'll see you next week when

2068
02:08:51,100 --> 02:08:55,200
we cover part, 2 of Skinwalker
Ranch, when we dive into

2069
02:08:55,200 --> 02:08:59,900
technology in the mids team, the
National Institute of discovery

2070
02:08:59,900 --> 02:09:06,000
of science visits and owns
Skinwalker Ranch with multi

2071
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:12,200
billionaire, Mogul.
Robert Bigelow Bigelow are

2072
02:09:12,200 --> 02:09:18,700
spaces, Aerospace, just to kind
of give you a heads up, Jeff?

2073
02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:22,000
He has ties to NASA, of course,
he does.

2074
02:09:22,300 --> 02:09:25,300
Of course, he does, do they
finally install power on the

2075
02:09:25,300 --> 02:09:26,700
ranch?
Yes.

2076
02:09:29,500 --> 02:09:33,300
And they give him refrigerator.
Jake a fridge.

2077
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:40,600
We can have cold water now, but
yeah, you're being way more

2078
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:45,500
offensive than I ever was.
No, no, that's all, it's all

2079
02:09:46,100 --> 02:09:48,200
good and fun.
This was a great episode

2080
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:51,300
everybody.
Thanks for providing 2 hours and

2081
02:09:51,300 --> 02:09:53,100
10 minutes worth of
entertainment.

2082
02:09:53,700 --> 02:09:56,700
But anyways, thank you for
hanging out with us on another

2083
02:09:56,700 --> 02:09:57,700
episode of the infinite,
retinol.

2084
02:09:57,800 --> 02:10:02,700
Podcast, until next time,
travelers will see you the next

2085
02:10:02,700 --> 02:10:04,900
path of the infinite Rabbit
Hole.

2086
02:10:05,600 --> 02:10:07,900
Bye-bye, bye-bye.