Skinwalker Ranch Part 3

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Yeah, this is the Fresno
Nightcrawler.

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I've been listening to your
guys's show for quite some time

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and I got to say me and my two
friends feel horribly

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misrepresented by your podcast.
Let's start with the obvious.

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One saying that a Fresno
nightcrawlers.

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Fake is just ridiculous.
We are totally not fake.

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So I just wanted to throw that
out there that we hate your

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show.
This show sucks.

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Anyway, keep up with whatever it
is that this show does besides

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being wrong because the Fresno
nightcrawlers, real, we exist

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and we matter Bye.
Welcome back to the infinite

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Rabbit Hole.
I'm your host Jeremy.

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Today, we're going to dive into
the conclusion of our

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presentation on Skinwalker
Ranch.

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Today's gonna be a good one.
We are going to dive into some

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of the theories behind what's
actually going on.

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And we're going to get into our
feels about the subject

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ourselves.
This can be a lot of

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conversations tonight.
And of course, Jeff will

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probably try to convince us that
it's all the government.

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Without further Ado, let's go
ahead and invite Shadow band.

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Podcasts own Jeffrey.
Fernandez, Jeffrey.

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How are you doing today?
Thank you very much, Jeremy.

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It is, I Jeffrey.
Space is fake, Fernandez, quite

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well, thank you.
How are you, sir?

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Oh man, I've had better days.
They are, we are getting our

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bathroom torn up.
I don't even want to talk about.

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This is a happy place right now.
We're gonna be happy.

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Happy happy joy joy.
So are you ready, man?

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I'm ready dude.
I think you're gonna You're

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Gonna Shine today.
I think everybody knows what I'm

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going to say today, but I'll say
though, anyways, just for

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everybody's pleasure later.
Alright, let's go ahead and

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bring in the child of the group.
Sausage nipple.

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Jake.
What's up dude?

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Red flag, red flag.
Okay.

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Hey Jake.
Let's see.

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We'll see them nips, man.
Look at the nips.

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I shouldn't have gotten the red
shirt.

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It just takes away from how
glorious these big giant Pink

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pepperoni nipples are but here
they are.

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There's them nipples.
Good old thumbs up, smile little

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thumbs up, thumbs up smile
Neville's.

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It's like one thumbs up and two
nipples down.

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That's right, that's not it's
not the greatest shirt.

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Doing all right man.
Yeah, yeah.

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I'm ready to get into this.
I right before this.

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I was watching the hunt for the
skinwalker and I've got I didn't

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finish it.
I got almost halfway through.

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I got a couple interesting
tidbits that I want to bring up

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that actually somewhat changed
my opinion on the events of the

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ranch.
So when we get into it, I'll

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I'll pop those out.
So, that would be really cool,

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cool.
Well, let's move on.

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Two.
What's Due West will save will

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save ladies for last today.
Wesley believes in space king.

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How are you doing today?
But I'm doing great.

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How are you doing doing good?
You ready to dive into what we

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believe is going on here?
Absolutely.

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Have you go Vin to Skinwalker
Ranch, son. / recording.

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Yeah, I actually was watching
the same documentary that Jake

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was.
I didn't get quite all the way

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through it that much of stuff
going on this weekend but I'm

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ready to hear everyone's
opinions on everything.

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So the, the documentary that
Jake's talking about everybody

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is basically the brother or The
Sibling to the book rights by

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the same people, George Knapp,
and, and call Mikela her.

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And basically it is, I don't
know exactly if it's a follow-up

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to the book or it came out the
same time, but there is some

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additional information.
I have watched about 10 minutes

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of it and I was like, I can't do
this.

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I already have my script can't
do this right now.

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So at some point, when we all
get through the documentary man

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will come back and revisit the
topic and we'll talk about the

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stuff that's in there that
Jake's not gonna be able to get

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to today because the only
halfway through, all right,

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moving on kid.
How are you today?

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Fantastic.
I was almost a little offended,

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almost a little offended, but
we're cool.

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It's okay.
Thought I called you a child.

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Yeah, I made it look like one
but then, come on.

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Jump into conclusions together.
I mean, I am the kid.

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After all, you are the kid but
you're not the child.

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Yeah, that's awesome at once on
me already.

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So you blame me, I guess.
Not.

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I guess not.
All right.

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Have you dove into Skinwalker
Ranch since last time we do?

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I was about neck.
Deep in my research project this

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weekend.
So true I think we're doing it

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next week, right?
Sure.

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Oh, wait, no, possibly.
And possibly not, I might have a

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guest.
I still have to confirm that

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they're that they're still
coming but we'll talk about that

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when we get there.
Gonna throw ins are right in the

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trash and grab some Rando.
That's so before we get into my

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script for the night doesn't
Anybody have anything to build

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on from the last couple
episodes.

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I'm good.
But well, let's dive into some

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of the cool stuff that I found.
Now, the format for today is

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going to be Slightly different
than what we normally do for the

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back end of episodes because
there's so many different

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theories out there about
Skinwalker Ranch.

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Basically, what we're going to
do is we're going to or I will

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read off a theory, a popular
Theory, talk about a little bit

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and then we will discuss before
we move on to the next Theory,

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everyone understand.
Could go Gloria store and then

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at the end, if I fail to hit on
a theory that one of you guys

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have heard or what are you guys
believe?

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Feel free to bring it up then
and then afterwards, we'll talk

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about our true feels and we'll
get all emotional and probably

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have to cry.
No, I'm just kidding.

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Will be good.
Alright, let's jump in and let's

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start the night off with the top
of the page because I'm at the

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bottom, the media Frenzy.
Z.

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So when Terry Sherman decided to
go public in 1996 about what was

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happening on his Ranch, his
decision, landed on relying are

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relaying the details to a
reporter by the name of Zach.

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Van Eck of the Deseret News this
newspaper that Terry decided to

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confide in was Utah.
Second largest newspaper at the

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time.
This of course, would Propel

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what seemed to be an outrageous
story Into the Associated Press.

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And eventually around the
country newspapers and radio

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stations from every corner of
the u.s. reported on the now

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known UFO, hotspot, that was the
Sherman Ranch?

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Terry's reasoning for telling
his property story was to ensure

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that if this was a military or
black ops entity may be the

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publicity would force them to
move somewhere else.

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Another thing he wanted out of
going public was help from

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anyone who may have answers
about the activity he and His

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wife had been witnessing.
This would ultimately bring upon

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the arrival of Robert Bigelow in
the mids team.

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And with the arrival of Ned's
rumors about what was really

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happening on the ranch began to
run rampant throughout the local

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area.
One such rumor, was that a

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scientific team was brought in
to investigate the reptilian

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aliens that were discovered on
the Sherman Ranch and in one

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large National scientific
magazine and article was

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published spreading false rumors
that the Nevada Military base

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known as Area. 51 was moving to
a remote location in

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northeastern Utah and that the
needs team at the Sherman Ranch

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was really there to make
preparations for the shift in

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2002, George Knapp was given
permission and completed two

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articles for publication about
the happenings on Skinwalker

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Ranch and the involvement of the
needs team.

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The two-part article titled path
of the skinwalker was published

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back was published in
back-to-back issues of the Las.

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Review-Journal Nevada's largest
newspaper at the time.

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This once again propelled the
topic of Skinwalker Ranch into

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the Limelight of the country and
the rest of the world.

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The Articles would end up being
reprinted in England.

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Brazil, France, and Portugal,
and would also cause an influx

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of spin-off, articles to be
written in various other forms

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of media, such as magazines,
radio shows and private online

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chat rooms.
This was the most dangerous

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thing that happens at a ranch.
One particular chat room began

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spreading rumors about the needs
team and their board members

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saying that they were a part of
a secret cabal known as the

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Aviary.
The sole task and duty of this

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secret cabal was to count was to
control the information about

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the extraterrestrials on Earth,
but the rumors wouldn't stop

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there.
Another round of scuttlebutt

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arose that the needs team had
made contact with a Spaceman and

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that they were now.
Actively experimenting with

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genetic engineering, as a way to
explain uptick in cattle

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mutilations in the area.
And the really scary thing is

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that some well-known news
outlets begin to report on these

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ideas in a way that caused many
people to believe that what they

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were reporting was factual
information about the Rants and

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about the ranch and the needs
investigations.

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Throughout all of the beatings,
the ranch and the knids

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investigative team would take by
the media.

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The ranch did become extremely
famous, in many circles.

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The needs team suffered a long
almost year-long drought, which

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they easily pointed the finger
at the waves of amateur

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researchers and quote-unquote,
professional reporters that

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showed up on and around the
ranch to do a little bit of

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research for themselves.
But as months went by and the

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huge influx of new Strange
visitors to the ranch and the

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Basin receded activity.
Once again, began the spring up

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on, Skinwalker Ranch.
But the argument that many

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people make about Skinwalker
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the stories coming from the
ranch are just that stories.

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A decent amount of people do
believe that the lore behind the

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ranch is no more than publicity
brought on by rampantly

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spreading and growing false
narratives spun by Terry

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Sherman, himself.
Others blame George Knapp and

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his articles while Oh some more
recent disbelievers.

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Think that the influx in books
magazines TV shows and podcasts

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on the subject.
Do a disservice to the

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Paranormal Community for even
reporting on such an outlandish

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topic.
So what do you guys think?

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Do you think that the media And
entertainment business might be

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to blame for the popularity and
the happenings at Skinwalker

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Ranch.
Yeah, dude, 100%.

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I mean we're doing it right now,
right?

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But for sure things like the
Discovery Channel or the History

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Channel or whatever channel
right like that.

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It's going to bring a lot of
attention to.

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This is a the problem that I
have with a lot of different

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things, right?
People might call A lot of them

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conspiracies.
But when you're talking about

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things like Ancient Aliens or
You know, like lost history or

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anything like that.
It goes through this mainstream

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filter and becomes some weird
diluted version of what it

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really is.
And I feel like a lot of the

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stories that we could probably
find about Skinwalker Ranch are

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just people kind of even if they
believe it.

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Like, they're, they're
experiencing something through

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that filter that they've already
been fed through the media Wes.

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What do you think van?
Do you think that the The media

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and US podcasters or the reason
why this thing has blown up so

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much.
Oh, for sure.

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I mean, even back in in the 90s,
there had, to have been, you

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know, rumors and stuff.
You know, all throughout the

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town, you know, the closest town
to them and I'm sure even back,

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then it probably Traver traveled
way further than just their, you

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know, the city they lived
outside of.

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And I'm now or from then till
now you know, media's reach and

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growth has been exponential.
So with that things like this,

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that really capture people's
imagination are just blown up

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constantly and just never going
to stop.

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Now, we'll go to Kidd, Kidd, do
you think that the media may

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actually Be the reason why these
things are happening not

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necessarily why it's so popular,
but do you believe that maybe?

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No.
Okay, no.

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My But as you were asking that
question, I just thought back to

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the owners before the Sherman's,
there wasn't a whole lot on

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their story but their entire
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inside and outside.
All dead-bolted.

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So there I don't think media had
much involvement as to what was

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going on, but it is like a game
of telephone So the moment, the

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media got involved, things be
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blew up and media.
In my opinion, is the reason

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Skinwalker Ranch is so popular
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But it's not the reason things
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It's not the reason things
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happening.
There was something going on

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beforehand.
Jake, what do you think about

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this layer that the media ads,
100%?

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I think it has to do with it.
So I'm watching this documentary

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by George Knapp.
And what's interesting to me is

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that I'm also watching the show
right the skinwalker show.

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It's like three seasons or
whatever, both of them are on

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Hulu and in the show they're
constantly they're seeing UFOs.

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They're doing with like they're
getting all their readings,

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their radiation exposure, all
the sort of stuff, right?

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And George Knapp says, within
the first 30 minutes of his of

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his Whatchamacallit his
documentary that the legend is

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that when new people come on the
ranch, there's an increase in

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activity and he said right off
the bat while I was there, I

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experienced zero paranormal or
otherworldly type events.

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It just didn't happen.
Although he was able to

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interview people all over the
town that had seen stuff and had

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experiences and he's able to
interview people from the

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original needs team.
They one of them even makes a

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presence.
The the TV show as well and I

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have to wonder what the
motivation is right?

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Because I agree with what Jeff
said that you know you have an

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already send Stone bias, you
might see things through that

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lens of that bias, but then when
it comes into like the TV show,

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right?
I'm sitting here watching it, I

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just got into season two and I
mean they have seen all kinds of

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stuff, but how much of it is
actually real and how much of it

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is edited.
And the reason why I ask that is

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because what's the motivation is
the History Channel paying the

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owner of the ranch now?
To be there to shoot the show.

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Is there a motivation money-wise
to get as many seasons out of it

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and in which case increase on
the flare in the pizzazz because

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no one wants to see a show where
literally nothing happens,

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right?
It would last maybe a season and

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then it would be, you know, torn
apart so is any of this stuff,

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you know, flubbed, you know, and
whatever.

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But it's like even like they're
showing the UFO.

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It's a bright light in the sky
and they're showing it and then

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What would have been originally?
The stillest camera in the

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world.
It's on a tripod, it's panning

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around.
You see these people.

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And then when it's focused on
this UFO, it's just going like

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this, the whole time, it just
shaking around, and then there's

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this point where this UFO is.
And they keep saying it shows up

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in the exact same spot, and it
doesn't move.

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And then the camera goes like
this, it whips down real quick

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and they're like, there it goes.
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afterwards, I say, oh it's back.
It's right there, it's in the

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exact same spot, so it didn't
move at all.

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But the camera jerks really
quick, just make it appear that

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it just shoots out of the screen
when reality nothing actually

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happened.
So did that was that thing even

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existing?
Did they send something up into

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the atmosphere like that weather
balloon in the first season 2

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with reflective lining on it, to
make it look like something is

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out there reflecting the sun,
like a UFO.

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How much of this thing is
actually real people have their

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own stories and experiences and
all sorts of stuff.

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But I think when it comes to
adding media, Into that and

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money and contracts, and all
kinds of stuff.

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The level of craziness goes
right through the roof.

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So, when you get, you get out of
this level of, this is a place

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where weird stuff happens all
the time, too.

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Well, I don't know if any of
this is actually happening at

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all.
Like, any of this is actually

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real because if there's money
involved, there has extreme

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motivation to start just goofing
off and doing whatever to make

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contents.
Right.

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So like I said that there's
there's things from the

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documentary that have changed my
opinion on what's going on.

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But it's still hard for me to
grasp, you know, what's actually

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happening versus what's being
made up or what's being

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exaggerated due to the media's
presence and the, you know,

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extreme, you know levels of
interests that are included now.

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So here's my problem.
I'll just kind of take a side

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note here to talk about the TV
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My problem with the TV show is
that the Sherman's owned the

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property from 94 to 96, right?
94, 95, and 96 roughly, three

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years.
And what we get is a couple

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books off of it, but still the
happenings kind of come in these

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Pockets, like there are vast.
Amount of time like up to a year

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where there's just nothing.
There's there's gaps of months

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and weeks of just nothing but
you show up to this television

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show on History Channel and
every episode something's

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happening.
As if it's just conveniently

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happening every week or every
day, I think, I think that

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they're only there for about a
month out of the entire year,

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for every season, could be wrong
with that.

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But I know it's a A limited
amount of time.

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And within that limit amount of
time, you have more stuff happen

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than, you know, what would
happen in a year for the

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Sherman's.
All right?

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And that's that's where I find
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Find it hard to believe that the
the TV show is as legitimate as

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it claims to be not necessarily
just because of the money factor

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because that does add a layer to
the bullshitter e, obviously.

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But I just find Believe that
something's happening so much.

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Especially when the the owners
after Bigelow took over, it

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dived, way down didn't
disappear, it still happened,

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but it almost almost went nil.
That's my two cents and it does

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anybody else have anything to
add before I move on to the next

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one?
I would say.

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Jake has definitely hit on the
head, I mean, but I don't think

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that's necessarily the ranch
that's in it for the money, the

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media, whoever it is, they're
going to make their own money.

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And I think that's really what's
pushing it.

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Probably more than anything
nowadays but yeah, and I have to

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agree.
Definitely agree with you.

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Jeremy with a, you know, the
things ramp it up at all.

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When there's a TV show being
filmed there, you know, when

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there's been however many amount
of time, between whatever events

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phenomena, whatever you want to
call it, I mean it's

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everything's dramatized because
people people love drama.

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Yes.
So that's going to be that's

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going to literally be in
anything you see on TV.

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It doesn't matter if it's
History Channel HBO or, you

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know, even pick your favorite
News Channel, you know, things

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are going to be ramped up a bit
because that's what draws people

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in tell you what, though, as
much as I look at, like, the TV

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show versus the, I mean, I
didn't read the book, but Jeremy

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went pretty thoroughly through
it.

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West went thoroughly through it.
I'll tell you.

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There are some parts that have
really bothered me like as far

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as like freaked me, right?
The heck out.

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Like, last night, I went to bed,
right?

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After watching, I think it was
season 2 episode 2.

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And basically what happened was
they were doing this, they had

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this Jewish guy or a rabbi that
was doing a bunch of prayers and

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stuff at night and they had the
homestead to focused on with

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what was it, like a heat lens or
whatever on the camera.

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You know, and you see the entire
house and everything around this

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house, but pretty much like you
know, was it bright or dark red

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is or light.
Red is the hottest and purple

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and black are the coldest and
you see the trees and the

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surrounding area and it's all
relative.

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So it's like, you know, the
temperatures may be just so, but

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my hand would probably be red
and then everything expanding

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outward from my hand would get
darker and darker and darker.

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Sure because it would be you
know less hot right than my body

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temperature so it's all relative
to each other as far as I know.

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But basically the trees and the
surrounding area, the rest of

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the house was red because it was
warmer than the focal point,

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which was the doorway.
And it was just deep oil.

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Slick black with purple around
it like an eyeball or if you

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could imagine it a being
standing in that doorway and

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Even as they're approaching the
house, everyone goes running

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over there to go investigate and
see, you know why this is doing.

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This is the is the equipment
messing up or whatever.

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You can see their read images.
Their silhouettes of these four

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individuals running towards this
point.

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And you can see them, all right
here, and they go in there.

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They say it's like, you know,
20, 30 degrees colder, it's like

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it's crazy cold stuff.
That one creeped me, right?

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The heck out.
And then I had to go to bed

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afterwards and it kept me awake
for like, Like 45 minutes where

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I'm just like, something's gonna
jump out at me, you know, like

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there are some points where I
don't entirely disbelieve that

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there's craziness going on in
that ranch but again it's hard

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for me to know what is real and
what's going on and then what

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what is fake and made up or at
least exaggerated?

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Because I mean just the simple
fact of if you guys have seen

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any movies in the last couple
years, Is most of what you're

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seeing is CGI.
Like these people are.

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It's the actors in front of
green screens.

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Like everything is CGI with the
exception of like the Top Gun

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movie, where they're actually
flying in Jets, like everything

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is CGI now.
So even if it looks so real, you

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could look up the behind the
scenes and stuff and it's all

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like, you know, there's no
buildings back there, it's all a

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green screen.
It's nuts.

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So really, we've come into this
area where, you know, Patterson

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gimlin Bigfoot film from, you
know, the 60s or 70s whenever

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that one was shot is just like,
you know, 67.

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I think it's just like, you
know, it's not that anymore.

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Where that's an actual River.
That's an actual surrounding

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area, you know, we can dispute
whether or not the Is actually

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real, but everything else around
it is real nowadays, you'd see a

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video like that and literally
nothing could be real.

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It could all be CGI, it could
all be made on a computer and,

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you know, and there we go.
So I can't I have the hardest

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time seeing that stuff and being
like, this is actually

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happening.
Because as far as I know the

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scientist right there could just
be getting paid to pretend like

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there's a UFO right there and
they could just have a spot, you

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know, in editing that they put
inside the, you know, Whatever.

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It's like it's rough.
It's hard to know, you know.

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Yeah.
Kinda to add onto that to like

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you were saying, they're only
there for like maybe a month, I

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don't know the exact time frame
but I know it's limited time.

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Okay.
So it's a short period of time.

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I have a hard time believing
that in this month, two months

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time span that that's just it's
like that's the season for

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things to happen.
I don't I don't think that's

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happening.
I don't think it's that

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frequent.
It's very, I think it's more

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sporadic.
So for all we know like Jay said

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they're just exaggerating a
bunch of things and embellishing

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a bunch of stuff and they're
only getting maybe two episodes

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worth of footage of two months,
three months Expedition.

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So yeah.
No.

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I'm I'm having a hard time that
believing that Media.

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Is telling the truth about
Skinwalker Ranch, but it's

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definitely, it's definitely
pulling attention to Skinwalker

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Ranch, which is usually the
point of what of media to pull

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attention of something.
All right, we go think move on.

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Yeah, I'm satisfied.
All right.

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It gets fun from here.
I think this is.

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This one's for old Jeffery
military psyop.

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It is no surprise that many
believe that Skinwalker Ranch in

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the Uintah Basin, lay home to a
playground for experiments of

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top-secret military weaponry,
gear and techniques aircraft

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that defy physics cloaked
figures, stealthy, lights and

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crafts.
Gateways into other dimensions,

450
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:15,400
Chimera like creatures and
highly lifelike, holographic

451
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,400
displays, this explanation goes
back to the original owners of

452
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,600
the ranch before the The Myers
family were the owners of

453
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,100
Skinwalker Ranch this
well-documented hotspot for all

454
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:30,700
things paranormal and
Supernatural seem to not be an

455
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:33,900
issue for the Myers family.
Could the Myers have signed an

456
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:36,700
agreement with the US government
that allowed the use of their

457
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:40,400
rural property for top-secret
experiments, many believe, yes.

458
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,700
Again, Conrad Bauer comes to
play hardball by bringing up the

459
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:50,400
facts that secret and public
nuclear testing took place in

460
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,600
remote areas of the region.
In the world's most famous

461
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,300
secret military facility Area.
51, settles just over the state

462
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:00,400
lines in group Groom Lake
Nevada.

463
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,700
The government seems to have a
soft spot for remote desert

464
00:30:04,700 --> 00:30:07,900
locations for their secret
doings Garth Myers, who

465
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:11,700
inherited the property from the
original owners famously I told

466
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:15,400
Terry Sherman to not dig on the
property, those who are familiar

467
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,200
with the TV show secrets of
Skinwalker Ranch on the History

468
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,700
Channel know that the current
research crew members are still

469
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:23,900
wary about the concept of
digging on the property due to

470
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:25,800
documented issues that happen
when they do.

471
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,800
Could there be a top secret
underground military facility

472
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,800
under the property of Skinwalker
Ranch nuclear bump?

473
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200
Bunkers were speckled all
throughout the country during

474
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,700
the years of the Cold War many
of which were made into bases

475
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:43,400
and bunkers and many of of those
were in the remote desert areas

476
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800
of the West one.
Common occurrence of the

477
00:30:45,808 --> 00:30:48,800
Sherman's famously complained
about was the sound of machinery

478
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,300
and banging coming from what
they thought was under their

479
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:55,500
feet Kelleher an app made a
claim in their book hunt for the

480
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:58,600
skinwalker that the needs team
employed top-notch remote

481
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,300
viewers from various backgrounds
to view the ranch at different

482
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:05,900
points.
In time, knids claimed that many

483
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,800
of these remote viewers came
back saying that there was a

484
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,300
constantly, a military presence
on the And and that they were

485
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,800
doing some very bad things there
and we're primarily working out

486
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,500
of the Southeastern portion of
the ranch as a side note to

487
00:31:19,500 --> 00:31:24,000
this, a few of them pointed out
the central Homestead as a

488
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,700
hotspot for various degrees of
strange and are evil activity

489
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:30,700
and to clear that up a little
bit there.

490
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,500
Yakov, the central Homestead is
Homestead to uh-huh.

491
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,900
So what do you think Geoffrey?
Yeah man.

492
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:43,500
I'm with that, dude.
I mean honestly when you said

493
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,700
gateways or portals to other
dimensions, that's totally what

494
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:50,600
I think is going on.
And I think that because it's on

495
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,400
a Ley line.
I think you said it was on or

496
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:57,600
around a Ley line, right?
You have remote viewers seeing

497
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,700
this which I fully have no
problem.

498
00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:06,200
Believing just getting into all
the You know, MKUltra and the,

499
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,100
you know, the Gateway process
stuff and project Star Gate, and

500
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:12,000
all these different programs
where they were using remove

501
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800
viewers and all kinds of stuff.
So that's totally real.

502
00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:17,700
Yeah man, I could totally see
that.

503
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,700
There's some probably in secret
underground base.

504
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:24,300
I mean, okay, so like the
Montauk project.

505
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:27,700
This is a perfect example.
They did this project, the

506
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:31,100
secret project using the Montauk
chair and all this stuff at Camp

507
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,900
hero.
But Camp hero was a supposed

508
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,100
idli an abandoned military base
of the time.

509
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:39,700
So if you have the country
dotted with these secret

510
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:43,100
underground facilities, some of
them are no longer in use.

511
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:46,100
Then you have some black budget
program who it's not really the

512
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:52,200
military, it's, you know,
unknown contractors or even

513
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,700
exactly a in entity higher than,
right.

514
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:57,400
Correct.
And they're down, they're

515
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,800
probably doing some kind of
portals think, stranger things

516
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,500
or something, you know.
I'm with it.

517
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:09,600
So just to make a connection for
those that are new to the

518
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,800
infinite Rabbit Hole.
Those that may not understand

519
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,400
what remote viewing is.
It is basically the use of

520
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:23,000
correct me if I'm wrong.
Scientific are psychic means of

521
00:33:23,008 --> 00:33:27,300
being able to view a location
separate from your own by

522
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,700
psychic means is that that's
roughly correct, right?

523
00:33:31,100 --> 00:33:32,500
Yeah.
Pretty much in the government's

524
00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:35,200
even done things.
Like psychic assassin programs

525
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,600
where they would use remote
viewing to locate somebody like

526
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000
a dignitary or somebody from
another country and they'd be

527
00:33:42,008 --> 00:33:43,800
able to pinpoint pretty much
where they were on the other

528
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,900
side of the world project start
here somewhere.

529
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,800
Yes, exactly.
Project.

530
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,700
Star Gate was a really big one.
We talk a little bit more about

531
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:53,900
that.
We actually, I actually am the

532
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,100
only surviving member of that
episode but we went on to

533
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:01,800
another for dead and we went on
to another podcast and I bring

534
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:07,400
that up in my little spiel.
But moving on, let's go Wes.

535
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:14,800
We think, man.
Hope your your meeting.

536
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,400
So I'm an idiot.
Totally Pro.

537
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:24,800
Anyway, I'm with Jeff.
Where this, or this Ranch is

538
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,400
located?
It's basically just like a tear

539
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,800
between, you know, some other
dimension, or maybe multiple

540
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,600
Dimensions, who knows?
I don't know, who knows, how any

541
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:40,800
of that works.
But you know, What leads me to

542
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,800
believe that it's maybe multiple
is just out of all the

543
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,199
phenomenon described there is
multiple that are very similar

544
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:49,500
to each other.
There's the giant you know

545
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:53,500
wolf-like creature or the
multiple wolf-like creatures,

546
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,500
the flying orbs that were
usually blue or red in color and

547
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:03,900
then you had like the predator
predator thing, you know and

548
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:07,200
whatever was invisible to the
naked eye running through the

549
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,000
heard you know.
I'm like a shark in the school

550
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,500
of fish I don't know.
There's just multiple things

551
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:19,300
coming out slipping through into
our world for, you know, short

552
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:23,100
periods of time and yeah, I
don't know.

553
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,600
Yeah, it's it's strange because
everything that has happened on

554
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,800
the ranch.
I'm going to jump a little head

555
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,400
right now.
I'm not going to give you my

556
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,600
full view on this, but
everything that's happened on

557
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,700
the ranch can kind of be
explained by some sort of

558
00:35:38,707 --> 00:35:42,700
military black.
IT project, right?

559
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:47,600
So, like West was just talking
about the Predator, like,

560
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,100
creature.
That's walking through the

561
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:55,700
cattle, or the ones that jumped
up in front of the guy who was

562
00:35:57,300 --> 00:36:01,900
meditating or outside the
Sherman household and got

563
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:05,100
screamed at right in his face
cloaking, right?

564
00:36:05,100 --> 00:36:07,000
That's something that we know
the government spends money on

565
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:14,400
this, spend money on cloaking
devices, drone Gates to other

566
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,100
dimensions.
You know, that a hot spot that

567
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,900
has that could possibly be a
thin veil between Dimensions is

568
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:25,900
going to be an attractant to
military or other government

569
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:29,100
entities.
So I mean, that's my aesthetic

570
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,100
genetic testing, right?
Thank you, squares.

571
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,200
Exactly.
As far as we know that they

572
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,300
might be creating a creature
that has the ability to cloak

573
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:39,900
and so they might be literally
creating skinwalkers and some

574
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:44,200
secret base underground.
I mean, how do we know So Jake,

575
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,500
what do you think, man?
I disagree almost entirely good.

576
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:53,800
I don't believe that the u.s.
government has developed a way

577
00:36:53,800 --> 00:37:02,300
to cloak individuals or crafts
like that - whoa if if it was

578
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:09,000
possible, I wouldn't assume that
every time is like a Seal Team

579
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,600
or a ranger, whatever team
Battalion, I don't know.

580
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,200
What they call them.
But every time Squad every time

581
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,400
they are sent in to do
something, like, take a

582
00:37:18,408 --> 00:37:23,100
high-value Target.
We would have zero casualties

583
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:31,300
there wouldn't be any You know,
there wouldn't be any I mean can

584
00:37:31,300 --> 00:37:33,800
you shoot something that you
can't see that just, you know,

585
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,900
unless you just spray randomly
and wildly but I think it'd be

586
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:40,700
utilized, you know?
I mean there's for the last two

587
00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:48,500
weeks we had dozens of crazy
aircraft on my base.

588
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,900
I couldn't talk about while
they're here but we had f-35s we

589
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:56,400
have had f-117's you know taken
off all day.

590
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,100
Long.
They were doing drills.

591
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:01,000
They were shooting off Rockets
into the bay, all kinds of

592
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,500
stuff.
Those things would be cloaked.

593
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:05,600
We wouldn't be able to see him,
you know, if they're so

594
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,100
secretive that they're telling
us we can't take pictures of

595
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:12,600
them, we wouldn't be able to see
them those things, right.

596
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,200
There is no way to me that they
actually have that set it to

597
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:18,100
sort of Technology.
Now that not saying that they're

598
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:21,700
not working on it but they can't
actually do that.

599
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,400
Now, you know, the idea that
there's a base underneath there

600
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:31,600
R.
In on my base, we can't dig in

601
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,400
our own backyards.
I live on base.

602
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,100
We can't dig on our own
backyards.

603
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:39,100
They say that anything more than
six inches, and we might hit

604
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:43,100
unexploded Ordnance because this
base used to be utilized for

605
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:45,800
bombing runs here in Southern
California.

606
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:48,200
It was house is right on top of
it.

607
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,100
Yeah, I mean, they're like they
declare it to be savings cheap,

608
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:54,200
bro.
Yeah, I mean, but that would, I

609
00:38:54,207 --> 00:38:58,100
mean, this this base, I think
came around during World War To

610
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:01,800
and, you know, they used to
utilize it for bombing runs and

611
00:39:01,808 --> 00:39:04,200
all kinds of stuff.
And so to me, that would make

612
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,200
sense with the whole radiation
zones that they keep

613
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,400
experiencing, right?
I'm not saying that they were

614
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,200
drop a nukes, you know, because
that place probably wouldn't be

615
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,100
habitable for quite some time.
But that doesn't mean that there

616
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:21,300
aren't other types of
radioactive Weaponry, that could

617
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:23,500
have been utilized or things
like that, right?

618
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:29,800
And then, so, that's in itself.
A A situation that for me it

619
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,700
there could be a base.
Sure.

620
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:36,100
But I would see it more as like
there's actually a hazard to

621
00:39:36,100 --> 00:39:38,300
digging.
They're not a, you're going to

622
00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:40,900
find our secret because if
there's such an issue where

623
00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:43,500
they're going to find a secret
like that, I don't think that

624
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:46,300
that area would be available to
be sold.

625
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,600
Right?
Because say they find some

626
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:52,300
underground concrete bunker, who
cares, right?

627
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,400
If it's so secretive that they
can't dig because they might

628
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,300
discover something that stuff
isn't going to be available.

629
00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:02,700
Some random Joe Schmo to come
across right now a rift in time

630
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:07,200
or a portal I believe because
I'm more focused on like this

631
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,900
might be a increase in demonic
activity.

632
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,800
Why it's focal or focus on this
location?

633
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,400
I don't know.
But those beings in my mind are

634
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,900
way more powerful than needing
some Rift or some portal between

635
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:24,600
Dimensions to travel across if
they're not, if they're not

636
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,500
bound to our physics and our way
of things.

637
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,600
He's working because they're on
a different dimensional plane,

638
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:34,600
then they should be able to go
in between with no issues

639
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,800
without having to rely on some
government portal or some, you

640
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,400
know, void opening up or they
can just travel in between the

641
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,000
two.
So I almost entirely disagree

642
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,800
with everything that was said
right there.

643
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,400
Jeffrey is jumping on his pants.
Go ahead.

644
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,200
Yeah, I just think that Jake.
I think you're thinking about

645
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,800
this all wrong, man.
I don't think that the

646
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,500
government is doing this at all.
I think that it's totally

647
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,300
contractors, it's black budget
stuff is not on the books.

648
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,100
It is not.
Our government is, it's probably

649
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:11,200
taxpayer-funded but, you know,
it's totally off the radar and

650
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,200
and they probably they most
likely do have this technology

651
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,500
and they just haven't been
offered the role.

652
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,300
Amount of trillions for it, from
any government or they are just

653
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:25,000
working on it.
But, you know, there's so much

654
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,900
there and then like the portals
and the demons and that, like,

655
00:41:28,900 --> 00:41:31,200
yeah, I totally think that
you're right.

656
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:35,300
But also, that doesn't mean that
we are not peering into other

657
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:39,100
dimensions and other data or
information or entities are

658
00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:43,900
coming through that might be
Skinwalkers, man.

659
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:47,500
How many trillions do you need?
We watch our government.

660
00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:50,100
Print off print out money like
it's toilet paper.

661
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:53,500
It's like, here's some more
toilet, paper saying that, just

662
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:57,300
because just because of the
stuff that we know about, isn't

663
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,700
cloaked with this, type of
Technology doesn't mean that

664
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:04,200
it's not being utilized, the
secrets, the real secrets that

665
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,700
are happening, especially with
like you know Special Forces or

666
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,000
something like that.
We do we don't know what is

667
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,000
really going on, you know.
And I'm not just saying like

668
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,700
your Delta Force, Navy, Seals
guys.

669
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,500
But if there's something that
really has to get done with zero

670
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:22,200
casualties guarantee, you
they're cloaked and they're

671
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,000
probably super soldiers and all
the rest of it and we just have

672
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,800
no idea that this Unity would
exist.

673
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:34,400
So I just want to point out that
if you're above the government,

674
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:39,800
if you're someone of these
secret Black Op entities, that

675
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,900
money probably isn't what you
need.

676
00:42:42,100 --> 00:42:43,900
I don't need.
They're using money to do what

677
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:47,200
they need to do.
Probably data data lesser

678
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:53,100
services and data is literally
the value because I believe, you

679
00:42:53,100 --> 00:42:57,300
know, now that I'm no longer a
shill, I can say some some of my

680
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:01,100
truths Thoughts here instead of
she'll Jacob over here, just not

681
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:03,600
believe any go, Durham, he's
about to go to prison for this.

682
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,600
Here we go.
This year?

683
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,100
No answer.
I won't go too deep into my

684
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:14,100
thoughts but I don't think money
has a value to these entities.

685
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,500
I don't think that any, any
value any, any quantity of money

686
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,600
is worth anything to them.
They don't use it, I mean, they

687
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,200
want something done, they just
do it.

688
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:27,600
I mean, how do they get the
goods?

689
00:43:27,700 --> 00:43:30,000
And what not yes that's when the
government comes in and print

690
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:35,100
off Hunting and uses it because
the you know the dogs that are

691
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,300
out there making these things or
whatever, the materials used to

692
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:44,500
produce this stuff needs money
and like we need money to live,

693
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:51,000
we're just you know eating out
of the government's hands but if

694
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,000
you're one of these Black Op
institutions, they don't use

695
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,400
money dude, there's no way.
And services what they need and

696
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,800
honestly Services isn't really
been a problem and that is not

697
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,100
even a fucking problem.
I don't even think they really

698
00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:08,500
have a currency, they're never
going to get rid of their stuff.

699
00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:14,000
As for, you know, why is this
this property even for sale?

700
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,000
Well, I mean, if it depends on
what they're doing, if this is a

701
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,100
hot spot for all of this
quote-unquote, paranormal,

702
00:44:20,100 --> 00:44:25,200
military psyop stuff, why not
put somebody on top of there to

703
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,400
make it look as average as
possible?

704
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,100
Why not sell it to the to the
owners before the Sherman's and

705
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,300
say, Hey, you know, just live
your lives.

706
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:36,300
What if they were part of the
deal?

707
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,400
This is why, you know, if you're
going to dig on this property,

708
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:46,500
you need to let them know
because they're literally fed by

709
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,200
this entity that lives right
below them, whether it's there

710
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,800
or not anymore.
Because part, you know, another

711
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:59,300
little spoiler for my opinion on
this is that The more recent we

712
00:44:59,300 --> 00:45:03,900
get the the more unlikely that I
believe, Skinwalker Ranch is

713
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:06,700
really anything.
I think that during the

714
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:11,800
Sherman's and during like up to
five ten years ago, I think we

715
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,900
were dealing with some pretty
cool stuff there at Skinwalker

716
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:15,100
Ranch.
I don't think it's completely

717
00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:20,200
gone but the more we dive into
the History Channel show, the

718
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,100
more or less believable, I think
it is for recent and I'll be I

719
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,100
don't think that government
entities there anymore.

720
00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:29,900
I think I want Ron I want to
hear Ken's our thoughts and then

721
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:32,800
I have a small sorry kid I'm so
sorry.

722
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,500
I have a small follow-up that
case you guys have pretty much

723
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,600
said everything that was going
through my head except one thing

724
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,200
that I latched onto I'm really
stuck on these deadbolts.

725
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:50,300
Okay guys why I couldn't tell
you but maybe that's why kind of

726
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:55,100
adding to the whole the Myers
and on the whatever was going on

727
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:59,800
there, maybe that's why there
were V on the other side of

728
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:05,000
everything was so that
Government or whoever Black Op,

729
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,900
whoever is, is doing some
experimenting on the land

730
00:46:07,900 --> 00:46:09,300
tonight.
We're going to lock you guys in

731
00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:14,800
the house or maybe it was given
to them the to the Myers as a

732
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,300
way to protect themselves or
that.

733
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:21,700
Yeah.
Like I think that's what this

734
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:23,700
is.
Your only like this is one way

735
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:26,200
you can help protect yourself.
Well let you know what we're

736
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,800
doing stuff, like yourself in.
I think that it was.

737
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,400
It's possible that the first
owners, maybe it was even

738
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:33,800
something.
Simple as like witness

739
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,500
relocation like, oh, you guys,
we got put you somewhere.

740
00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:38,300
We got this program happening
over here.

741
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:39,900
We'll just plant you on top of
it.

742
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,000
Build your little Rancher.
You go, right?

743
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,100
You shut the fuck up when we
provide protection, exactly.

744
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,600
And then you get multiple owners
open, and people just don't know

745
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:50,700
the situation.
And like Jeremy said, maybe

746
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:53,900
they're gone now, so I don't
know.

747
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,500
I'm with follow-ups, anybody
before I move on?

748
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:02,100
No, I looked ahead.
You're going to be covering this

749
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:03,300
topic.
That would probably be more

750
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:06,200
appropriate to drop it in.
So OK, Google.

751
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:09,000
All right, well, let's let's
move on to the next part.

752
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,000
We dive into some Native
American curses.

753
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:16,500
So in the oral histories of both
the Navajo and the you tribes,

754
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,500
this is how the skinwalker is
burned into reality.

755
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:24,400
The two neighboring, tribes
famously killed stole and fought

756
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,500
with each other for years before
Europeans ever set foot in the

757
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:30,500
region.
The Navajo were forced from the

758
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:32,800
area of the Uintah Basin by the
Utes.

759
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:36,800
But before they left, they said,
a curse upon the land that

760
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,900
brought the dreaded Skinwalker
to torment the Utes.

761
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:43,200
This curse is still believe
heavily to this day by The

762
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,200
Local, Natives in the region.
But although the phenomenon has

763
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,800
claimed the lives of many
animals on the property, there

764
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,100
has never been a report of a
human being dying due to one of

765
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:56,100
these phenomena.
Yes, it is true that people have

766
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:58,500
been hospitalized or have gone
missing.

767
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:02,800
But nobody has ever died that we
know of why is this important?

768
00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:06,300
Well because the skinwalker is
known as a brutal and

769
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:09,600
unforgiving which that will not
hesitate to slaughter anyone, it

770
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,000
comes across.
So if nobody has ever been

771
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:17,300
recorded as dying, how can it be
the curse of the skinwalker that

772
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:22,400
is to blame.
So, Skinwalker Ranch everybody.

773
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,000
Let's start with kids.
Since we put her on the back

774
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,700
burner, the last two times kid,
what do you?

775
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:35,000
Think about the, the name
Skinwalker Ranch and the

776
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,300
relation to the native lore of
the skinwalker.

777
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,200
I don't, I don't I really like
the story.

778
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:48,100
I think the relation might just
be because it's There could have

779
00:48:48,100 --> 00:48:52,100
been some.
For all, we know, it could be a

780
00:48:52,107 --> 00:48:56,900
native burial ground and that's
just what's happening, is that,

781
00:48:56,900 --> 00:49:01,300
and they put this curse
Skinwalker curse on them and

782
00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:03,700
they just ran with it.
And that's why it Skinwalker

783
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:09,300
Ranch.
But I really like This one, this

784
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:11,400
one's fun.
This is the one that a lot of

785
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,700
people really latch onto its the
a lot of people call them flesh

786
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:22,000
pedestrians because the whole
you you talk about something and

787
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,000
you manifest it and it starts to
show up and help us Opie.

788
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:27,800
Yeah.
So people don't want to say

789
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,800
Skinwalker because they're
afraid that it'll show up so

790
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,100
they call it a flesh flesh
pedestrian instead, which I

791
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:37,200
think is honestly ridiculous but
it's way worse.

792
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:46,800
I really like this story because
it's it to me is just It's

793
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,400
another windigo story, but kind
of cooler.

794
00:49:49,500 --> 00:49:55,200
Honestly, I don't.
That's but anyways, that's when

795
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,300
I hear the skinwalker creature.
I, I kind of think of a windigo

796
00:49:59,300 --> 00:50:03,900
at the same time, they're just,
they're similar but completely

797
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:09,000
different.
So the the skinwalker is a

798
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,400
witch, right?
Basically, somebody who has

799
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:16,300
killed somebody in their own
blood earning the right, Evil

800
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:21,500
practitioner of magic and the
windigo is basically cannibal

801
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:23,700
zombie.
Well, yeah, but I mean, in the

802
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:27,400
sense of like, It's your buddy
Spirit.

803
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,200
Yeah yeah.
The whole paranormal aspect of

804
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,300
it, they're they're they're
similar but they're different

805
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:34,700
and that's what it kind of
reminds me of.

806
00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:38,600
And that's why I kind of like
this this store this portion of

807
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,700
it.
Something different.

808
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:45,700
Yeah, I don't know if there's
something out there, but it's

809
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:49,800
kind of cool to think,
gentlemen.

810
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,100
Free-for-all who wants up.
Yeah, I think I think there's

811
00:50:54,100 --> 00:50:57,300
something to that.
Honestly, I think the fact that

812
00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:01,300
it's on a Ley line tells me that
there's something going on there

813
00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:04,300
and has been something going on
there for probably a million

814
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:06,000
years or more millions of years,
I don't know.

815
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,000
So to think that going back a
few hundred years Civilization

816
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:15,600
of people were aware of some
energies in this area.

817
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:20,400
So they would, you know, cast
this curse upon somebody else.

818
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,400
In this area makes sense that
maybe there was some power to

819
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,700
that, maybe there was some some
power to that curse and

820
00:51:27,700 --> 00:51:30,300
something was happening.
And then later down the road

821
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,700
with technology and all this
research and shit.

822
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,300
Then we come in and, you know,
at this is a perfect place for

823
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:39,400
us to do our experiments with
this interdimensional, whatever.

824
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,700
Our Whatever it is right, so I
can see a connection between the

825
00:51:42,707 --> 00:51:45,800
two being a thing.
Again, it's a great movie, this

826
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:49,100
would be a great, I'm sure it's
a movie but just that aspect of

827
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:51,800
it would be a great movie, like
the Native Americans.

828
00:51:52,100 --> 00:51:56,600
And then they put the curse and
then like 200, 300 years later,

829
00:51:56,900 --> 00:52:00,100
you have, you know, scientists
in a deep underground bunker

830
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,500
fucking around with some
entities you know, in the same

831
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:08,200
spot.
Yeah, about the other two, boys.

832
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:16,500
Wes don't speak.
Don't everyone.

833
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,100
Speak at once.
Hey, flip that one Wes.

834
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:28,200
I'm tied over here.
Okay, I was going to say, I

835
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:35,000
think I still believe that it's
just some interdimensional

836
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:42,100
Crossroads and is bleeding over
into our world and maybe it's

837
00:52:42,100 --> 00:52:45,000
been happening within a certain
window and say that window was

838
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,900
before Native Americans in the
area.

839
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:51,600
And that's where they where they
end up witnessing you know this.

840
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:58,200
You know crazy events you know
in this in this area and you

841
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,400
know that's where those Tales
came from you know, of the

842
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:09,100
skinwalker I don't know.
I believe a lot of old you know,

843
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:12,500
Tall Tales or I don't know.
Another word for it.

844
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,900
Lures and mythologies.
Lures, and yeah, Laura's and

845
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:20,500
mythologies.
They all there is some truth in,

846
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:25,600
you know, where they came from.
It's not just pulled directly

847
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,600
out of nothing, you know,
there's always something

848
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,000
inspiring something else, you
know.

849
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:36,900
And I think their their tails of
the skinwalker is just things

850
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:39,900
that they have experienced.
And now we're finding out that

851
00:53:39,900 --> 00:53:43,000
others that lived on the wrong
in that area.

852
00:53:43,700 --> 00:53:47,100
They experienced similar similar
things, you know.

853
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:53,700
Yeah.
Jacob, I think that okay, couple

854
00:53:53,700 --> 00:54:02,900
things so if I'm going with the
idea that I have of demonic

855
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:09,500
activity, It literally like, at
the beginning of the Bible, the

856
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:17,200
the angels that became demons,
basically tried to follow Satan

857
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:21,300
into becoming like God and they
were cast down to the Earth,

858
00:54:21,300 --> 00:54:24,200
right?
So before people even started

859
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,700
spreading out, there was demons
all over the Earth.

860
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:34,800
Not in Hell, there's actually
held vacant right now, but So,

861
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:38,100
the Native Americans would have
had to have run-ins with demonic

862
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:41,900
activity, probably quite
frequently because they engaged

863
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:44,900
with things like Witchcraft and
all kinds of stuff, right?

864
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:47,600
And rituals, and not all the
time.

865
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,400
But certainly there's there was
that sort of stuff that sort of

866
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:59,600
aspect to their belief system.
So, you know, why would they not

867
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:05,600
have some sort of lure, or Jen's
to describe the things that they

868
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,600
saw or the things that they
experienced, and if these things

869
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,000
are happening on this Ranch,
than it makes sense, that they

870
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:16,500
would attribute it to, you know,
their explanations for the

871
00:55:16,500 --> 00:55:21,500
things they were experiencing or
the things that they saw or, you

872
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,700
know, whatever it may be, it's
just happy circumstance and

873
00:55:24,707 --> 00:55:27,900
maybe it's, you know, there's
some legitimacy to it.

874
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:34,200
Hmm.
I forgot what the other point

875
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,100
that I was going to make was but
funny thing I actually I'm

876
00:55:37,100 --> 00:55:39,600
following since I'm running the
shows Instagram or at least I

877
00:55:39,607 --> 00:55:42,000
post on it.
I have as following hashtag

878
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,700
cryptozoology and to Ken's ours
point of these of the not

879
00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:52,200
Skinwalker.
The windigo, a tattoo artist

880
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:58,400
posted a tattoo, he did this
crazy like half sleeve of this,

881
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,200
you know, when to go like you'd
see in any movie where it was

882
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,100
covered in, fur had the deer.
On it and stuff.

883
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:06,700
And it was like ripping
something apart as all splayed

884
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,600
out like this.
And everyone's like all super

885
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,900
cool tattoo, super cool tattoo
and he's like hashtag windigo

886
00:56:12,900 --> 00:56:16,400
and all this stuff and I almost
posted the comment won't it suck

887
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,500
when the person who has that
tattoo finds out.

888
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:24,700
That's not even close to what a
win to go looks alone.

889
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:26,700
I left alone but I was thinking
about it.

890
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:30,100
I was like, oh yeah, that's a
cool.

891
00:56:30,100 --> 00:56:32,900
Dear monster has no relation to
the windigo.

892
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,400
Whatsoever.
Oh, kind of what I was getting

893
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:41,000
at though is like people don't
really People don't really

894
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,900
understand the like they won't
go out of their way to

895
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:47,200
understand the difference.
So they a lot of people you just

896
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,400
say Skinwalker and they
immediately they intertwine.

897
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,300
The to a skinwalker is a win to
go when to go as a skinwalker.

898
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:59,000
Like I like the stories, both of
them because they're both very

899
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,900
cool stories.
And the Paranormal aspect of

900
00:57:00,908 --> 00:57:03,600
both of it, the spiritual aspect
of all of it.

901
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,000
And then it ties back into
native Laura.

902
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:10,200
I think that alone, I think Just
awesome.

903
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:13,000
So that's kind of why I like
this story a little bit more.

904
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,600
That's why I kind of like
compared the two to each other

905
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,700
is both native lore.
They both share some sort of

906
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:24,400
evil looking creature.
Whether that be a paranormal

907
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,400
thing or a, which does not like,
doesn't matter.

908
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:32,000
It's, but again, to add to that
is people, don't they just

909
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,800
intertwined the to it was
Skinwalker is a wendigo went to

910
00:57:34,808 --> 00:57:37,800
go as a skinwalker.
They're all the same two people.

911
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:42,800
Which is kind of sad, honestly.
Well yeah, I remembered what I

912
00:57:42,808 --> 00:57:48,800
was going to say to what if The
reason for being told they can't

913
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,700
dig is not because of a military
base but because it was

914
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:57,000
discovered at some point that
that is an Indian burial ground.

915
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,100
Now whether or not that area
could be sold and purchased, I

916
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:07,600
don't know, but I know that if
something is discovered to be

917
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,500
and Native American burial
ground, that it cannot be dug

918
00:58:11,500 --> 00:58:15,400
up.
So, that would be an interesting

919
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,600
thing or for Jeff, what if it
was discovered that there was

920
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:26,300
giant bones on that property
because I was watching this this

921
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:30,200
documentary by George Knapp and
they said right away that that

922
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:36,100
area is known for having was it
liquid carbons and dinosaur

923
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:39,200
bones.
So if it was discovered that

924
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,900
there was giant bones in that
location, that would be another

925
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:45,200
reason to have the motivation to
tell them.

926
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:51,500
Don't go digging around.
Maybe we can't contain a 700

927
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:56,400
acre piece of property from
being purchased or sold or

928
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,200
whatever it is you know, or
something like that.

929
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,600
But I mean to go towards the
Native American side.

930
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:09,200
I mean it shows in the show that
there was pictographs on the

931
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,200
Rocks, they get into it and
season 2, they show that hey

932
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,000
this looks like the skyline and
stuff.

933
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,300
This looks like the Big Dipper.
This looks like the

934
00:59:16,308 --> 00:59:18,800
constellation Draco.
Also there was pictographs on

935
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,300
there, so it was inhabited by by
the Native Americans at some

936
00:59:23,300 --> 00:59:25,500
point.
So, could they be buried there?

937
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:27,500
Sure.
You know, could there be

938
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:32,600
something more to that like
giant skeletons and that has to

939
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,900
be tightly Under Wraps?
I don't think they could own

940
00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:39,800
and, well, maybe they could they
write the big they own and

941
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,100
control every single area where
giant skeletons ever been found

942
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:45,900
because of cording to, you know,
local sources.

943
00:59:45,900 --> 00:59:47,400
It's like everywhere.
Air.

944
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:52,700
But that would be a motivation
to tell the original owners of

945
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:55,400
the property.
You can own this but you can't

946
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,000
dig or else.
Something bad will happen and

947
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,500
just leave it at that.
Maybe it was originally, if you

948
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:04,100
find something while you're
digging around here, we're going

949
01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,700
to come kill all of you.
You know, something bad will

950
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:09,200
happen or something like that, I
don't know.

951
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:13,000
So does anybody else have
anything to add?

952
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:15,600
Because this is a great segue
into thanks Bart.

953
01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:21,100
Nope, okay.
Jeff, here's another one for

954
01:00:21,100 --> 01:00:22,800
you, buddy.
It's because I love you.

955
01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:25,600
It's the beard trying to try to
become dear brothers.

956
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:30,000
All right, you ready Jeff?
Let's go.

957
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:31,300
Jeff.
I think you're like this one.

958
01:00:31,300 --> 01:00:34,100
I don't know if you're gonna
come like, jump on board or be

959
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:37,900
against it, but I think this is
interesting because I found this

960
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:42,700
in one source and I wasn't going
to include it but I kept it for

961
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:46,200
you buddy.
Let's go Freemasons.

962
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,300
The secret society, / fraternity
known as the Freemasons are, a

963
01:00:52,308 --> 01:00:56,400
mysterious group with branches,
all over the world in time, one

964
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,400
of the biggest ties between the
Freemasons and the Uintah Basin

965
01:00:59,700 --> 01:01:03,100
is the presence of one of the
post-civil war.

966
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,900
All native, African American,
regiments of the western

967
01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:14,500
expansion, effort, established,
in 1866, these all-black units,

968
01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:17,000
became known to the plane,
Indians of Utah.

969
01:01:17,100 --> 01:01:20,500
As the Buffalo Soldiers and were
known to have been almost

970
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:24,500
completely free mason, which was
strange for the time as

971
01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:27,200
Freemasons were typically older,
rich white men.

972
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:31,200
Nevertheless, the majority of
the Buffalo Soldiers were devout

973
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,500
Freemasons.
I know that we haven't had a

974
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:37,900
chance yet to really dive into
the background of Freemasons.

975
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:41,800
But as a very quick outline of
their past, that may have a

976
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,900
slight connection to the
happenings of Skinwalker Ranch.

977
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:48,500
It has been long theorize that
the The Freemasons are tied up

978
01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:52,200
in a cult practices and that
happenings in the UN to Basin

979
01:01:52,700 --> 01:01:55,100
holds a secret connection to the
society.

980
01:01:55,600 --> 01:02:00,000
The best argument for this is as
symbol etched into a nearby

981
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,100
Ridge that has recently been
described as Skinwalker bridge

982
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:09,200
that resembles a known popular
Masonic symbol the symbol in

983
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:13,700
question has the letter V with
an inverted fee overlaid on top

984
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,500
with one V made from an
engineering compass and the Made

985
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:21,300
by a tool known as a square.
Get this, the famous symbol is

986
01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:26,200
known as the square and Compass.
The location of this etching is

987
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,500
so far up that no man could
stand and conduct the etchant,

988
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,000
even with a tall ladder, but
someone could do it.

989
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:36,600
If they were suspended off the
side of the ridge, it is

990
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,200
theorized that this double v
etching was left by the Buffalo

991
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,500
Soldiers.
During one of their many stays

992
01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:46,000
in the UN to Basin and is over
100 years old.

993
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:50,600
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Dude, to be honest with you, I'm

994
01:02:50,700 --> 01:02:55,400
kind of beyond the Freemason
thing to a point there.

995
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,100
Everywhere, everybody is a
Freemason.

996
01:02:57,100 --> 01:02:59,900
I mean, I know people were
Freemasons and most Freemasons

997
01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:03,500
have no idea like what they're,
what the deal is, you know what

998
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:06,800
I'm saying?
So well, your real high level to

999
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,200
know anything, right?
So let's talk about those guys

1000
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:13,400
because you're right, there is a
lot of Freemasons out there.

1001
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,300
And a lot of people don't even
know what.

1002
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,100
The history of Freemasonry is
and what's really going on

1003
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:24,600
within the organization.
But what about the higher-ups?

1004
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:28,400
I mean, occult practices has
been tied to Free Masonry.

1005
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,800
Yeah.
I mean, you know, it's, it's my

1006
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:36,000
opinion that these secret
societies, not just Freemasons,

1007
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,200
but there's a lot of them.
What they do is they purposely

1008
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:44,000
put people in positions to, or
they recruit people who are in

1009
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:49,100
positions.
That are around interesting

1010
01:03:49,100 --> 01:03:51,100
things to them.
Now since they're into a cult

1011
01:03:51,100 --> 01:03:54,700
practices, they might very well
be interested in this area that

1012
01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:57,600
may have a long history of
weird.

1013
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:02,300
You know, entities, and and
rituals being done or whatever

1014
01:04:02,300 --> 01:04:05,100
the case is.
So it wouldn't surprise me if

1015
01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:07,700
they knew about this and were
doing everything they could to

1016
01:04:07,700 --> 01:04:10,800
get their members in that area
or in positions that would be

1017
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,300
involved in that area, one way
or the other and probably still

1018
01:04:13,300 --> 01:04:15,900
to this day.
But I wouldn't say that this is

1019
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:20,500
like a Mason run operation as
much as it's more, like they

1020
01:04:20,500 --> 01:04:24,000
just like to have their hands in
everything, you know.

1021
01:04:25,500 --> 01:04:27,800
What about anybody else?
Anything on the Freemasons.

1022
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,000
I just want to say that, I'm not
surprised they're involved.

1023
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:35,400
They got their hands and
everything.

1024
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:41,900
So, yeah, I don't think it has
any relation because I mean,

1025
01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:44,000
like, even like the Masonic
temples, right?

1026
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,200
Most Freemasons probably have no
idea.

1027
01:04:46,300 --> 01:04:49,900
Like there's a lot of Freemasons
in the Navy like in the E7 and

1028
01:04:49,900 --> 01:04:52,300
above club, right?
You see a lot of them on license

1029
01:04:52,300 --> 01:04:54,100
plates.
Now, I don't think that they're

1030
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:58,000
most people really know what is
going on at the top levels, but

1031
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:01,400
you'd have to assume that they
the people that are running like

1032
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,000
the Masonic lodges, they
probably know quite a bit more

1033
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,100
about what's going on and stuff.
I don't think you could be

1034
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:11,600
Running a lodge and not have
access to certain information

1035
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,500
but you got to figure how many
Masonic lodges are there all

1036
01:05:15,500 --> 01:05:17,300
over the place.
I mean, there's three within,

1037
01:05:17,300 --> 01:05:22,700
you know, a few miles of me here
in SoCal, but this area in

1038
01:05:22,700 --> 01:05:27,200
Southern California, isn't
anything like Skinwalker Ranch

1039
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,100
for the activity that's being
gone that's going around it.

1040
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:33,000
So if there's the same sort of
practices being done all over

1041
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,100
the place but there's only one
Skinwalker Ranch.

1042
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,600
I don't think it.
Has any relation to whatsoever

1043
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,700
besides that these people
existed in the same location as

1044
01:05:41,700 --> 01:05:45,200
Skinwalker Ranch.
Now, the reason other than Jeff

1045
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:48,800
that I did include this and why
I find it there's importance

1046
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,800
here is because of the time
frame.

1047
01:05:52,200 --> 01:06:00,300
So these this militarized unit
was created to push natives out

1048
01:06:00,300 --> 01:06:06,900
of the area and you go back to
the curse that was put on by.

1049
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:13,600
One native group to another
native Group by way of the

1050
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:19,700
skinwalker curse.
Now if you see this picture of

1051
01:06:19,700 --> 01:06:22,500
the Petroglyph, that's why I
thought this was a good tie in,

1052
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:30,200
it does look like the may see on
Masonic compass and square, R

1053
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:34,600
square and compass.
Can it I mean is it there's not

1054
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:39,400
a hundred percent and again I
wasn't going to include this if

1055
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,200
it wasn't for old Jeffrey here
just because I found it one

1056
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:45,400
source and I don't like
including things that I can only

1057
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,900
find a One Source because
usually it's little sketchy.

1058
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:53,000
But I find it interesting
because of the time period and

1059
01:06:53,300 --> 01:06:56,100
what the, what the task was by
the group.

1060
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,200
Yeah, I think like Jake said
they're probably they just

1061
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,400
probably happened to be there,
you know, this is more of a

1062
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,600
happenstance than not but it
also might be that somebody

1063
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,100
higher up put them there in that
they were just there by

1064
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:13,800
happenstance.
But I don't think that there's

1065
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,800
any real significance to that
other than they just like to be

1066
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,700
involved in literally,
everything.

1067
01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:21,000
I gotcha.
Wes you got anything there, man.

1068
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:27,400
I don't think the Freemasons are
anything with anything.

1069
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:31,600
There's anything Left of what
they originally was mean.

1070
01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:36,500
And I see all kinds of people
that are Freemasons and I'm

1071
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:39,300
pretty sure to have no idea what
it's really about.

1072
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:43,500
So I don't really lend any
Credence to them really have any

1073
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:45,500
involvement.
Gotcha.

1074
01:07:45,900 --> 01:07:47,100
All right.
Good to move on.

1075
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,800
Good.
I was get back to the weird

1076
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,700
shit.
Parallel, world Gateway.

1077
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,700
Here you go.
Wes will come to you first on

1078
01:07:55,700 --> 01:07:56,400
this one.
All right.

1079
01:07:57,300 --> 01:08:01,300
Could the location be an area
that nears a parallel world on a

1080
01:08:01,308 --> 01:08:03,300
dimensional level?
That we cannot perceive?

1081
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,100
Eat remember there have been a
few documented reports of

1082
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:09,800
Windows, or portals opening up
before someone or something

1083
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,200
comes out of it.
In the book hunt for the

1084
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,800
skinwalker Kelleher, an app
quote, the physicist Michio Kaku

1085
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,500
is famous analogy of the Ant
Hill next to the superhighway to

1086
01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:22,399
paraphrase, mr.
Kaku, he explains that not a

1087
01:08:22,407 --> 01:08:26,500
single ant, an ant colony can
perceive the idea or even notice

1088
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:29,899
the multi-lane superhighway
being created and used right

1089
01:08:29,899 --> 01:08:32,300
next to them.
That not one of them could

1090
01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:34,800
understand the usefulness.
Honest, and purpose of it and

1091
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,700
that most likely none of them
even notice it in their everyday

1092
01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:40,300
lives.
Could we be an ant colony with

1093
01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:42,399
higher dimensional beings
conducting their everyday

1094
01:08:42,399 --> 01:08:46,399
business right next to us could
Skinwalker, Ranch, be right next

1095
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,000
to another Dimensions
superhighway.

1096
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:56,100
You think Wes?
I think that could be a pretty

1097
01:08:56,100 --> 01:09:00,600
good explanation.
I mean, Yeah, it's just were

1098
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,399
seeing things that we just have
yet to understand, you know.

1099
01:09:03,399 --> 01:09:08,399
So of course, it's going to be
like, I don't know chimp seem

1100
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:14,800
fire for the first time or
something on our, it's just

1101
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,300
like, you know what, in
tarnation, what the hell is it?

1102
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:26,899
Yeah, I don't know.
I think, definitely, dimensions

1103
01:09:26,899 --> 01:09:29,500
are crossing over, something
like that because you know all

1104
01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:31,399
the different things we're
seeing it.

1105
01:09:31,399 --> 01:09:35,000
Just, I don't know.
There's two, there's too many

1106
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,500
different things, you know, I
don't know.

1107
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:43,300
Yeah, I agree set it already
thousand times, I guess me, I

1108
01:09:43,300 --> 01:09:45,000
wasn't both pretty much said it.
Jake.

1109
01:09:45,100 --> 01:09:49,100
I mean, we've all said it really
that this is a possibility, but

1110
01:09:49,100 --> 01:09:50,899
it did.
The thing, when I think about

1111
01:09:50,899 --> 01:09:54,500
this, the thing that sticks in
my mind is like Image one of the

1112
01:09:54,508 --> 01:09:59,000
Marvel movies, forget which one
it was, but it was like the big

1113
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,100
war, right?
And all the portals opened up

1114
01:10:01,100 --> 01:10:04,700
and all the characters are
coming out and game, right?

1115
01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:09,600
So I imagine like this this Rift
opening and one of the stories

1116
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,700
from the last episodes for this
cloaked, Predator was parting

1117
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:16,500
these, you know these cattle.
Right?

1118
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:19,500
As it was walking through, and
I'm like, okay, this thing's

1119
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:22,400
probing us, right?
It's testing and maybe it's been

1120
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,100
doing this for a Thousand years,
right or whatever.

1121
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:28,600
And then one day, the freaking
endgame portals are going to

1122
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:32,000
open and it's just going to be
an army of these cloaked

1123
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:37,500
werewolves just coming through.
Maybe this happens like every

1124
01:10:37,500 --> 01:10:40,200
30,000 years, man, like, that's
all I can think is that.

1125
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:45,100
You, are you explaining the plot
of my God?

1126
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:47,300
I just forgot the name in the
movie, one with the giant

1127
01:10:47,300 --> 01:10:52,200
robots.
Fighting the monsters, Pacific,

1128
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:57,500
Pacific Rim, You're explaining
the problem that I resolved that

1129
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:01,500
but it's coming.
You guys remember?

1130
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:05,200
The first was the fog, the Mist,
the missed.

1131
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:06,000
That's what it was.
Yeah.

1132
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,200
When the Mist would come over
and then like these beings were

1133
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,100
basically coming from another
dimension and like eating

1134
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:13,500
everybody project Arrowhead was
the name of the project.

1135
01:11:14,900 --> 01:11:18,100
See I've seen all kinds of
strange paranormal supernatural

1136
01:11:18,100 --> 01:11:22,900
movies but never seen Star Wars.
Okay, we can't be friends.

1137
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:29,200
I quit everybody.
Never seen Star Wars.

1138
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:35,500
Never seen Lords of the Ring.
Once again, delft never seen

1139
01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:40,700
Potter Henry.
I am offended Jeremy.

1140
01:11:40,700 --> 01:11:41,400
Yeah.
All right.

1141
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,400
Listen to put in the comments if
you want us to make your me, sit

1142
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,100
down and we'll do it one day in
the Discord server.

1143
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:52,200
Something that every single Star
Wars, We'll be starting with

1144
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:58,700
Tusk will watch test crew, watch
all the extended editions of The

1145
01:11:58,700 --> 01:12:03,200
Hobbit and Lord of the Rings.
Yeah yeah I just recently

1146
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,200
re-watched.
The whole.

1147
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,300
Yeah me too.
So good.

1148
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:08,800
So good movie month at Jeremy's
house.

1149
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:11,100
I'll read a book while we're
watching a movie.

1150
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,300
No we're going to have you in a
chair like this we're gonna have

1151
01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:20,000
to tie you down to the chair guy
who your eyelids open.

1152
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,400
You can send one of the fans
dude.

1153
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:25,400
That's just disrespected.
The miss.

1154
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,800
The miss is like one of my Loki.
Favorite movies though.

1155
01:12:28,300 --> 01:12:29,000
I love that.
Okay.

1156
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,800
So getting back to the point.
Yeah that's kind of like with

1157
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,600
what's going on here and they're
not necessarily like that's what

1158
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,900
I think but you know like I can
see that that being a thing and

1159
01:12:39,900 --> 01:12:44,100
I don't know why I'm talking
about it but it's fun side.

1160
01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:45,600
Know it.
I mean, when's the last time

1161
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:49,600
someone saw the missed here?
I seen it recently and like

1162
01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:52,400
years.
The CGI is Fucking horrible.

1163
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,200
Well, it was, it was like a
budget, but yeah, it didn't have

1164
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,800
a big budget or anything.
But me is still based off a

1165
01:12:59,808 --> 01:13:02,800
Stephen King novel.
You know, it's shoes like a one

1166
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,700
step above a Sci-Fi channel
movie.

1167
01:13:05,900 --> 01:13:08,000
Oh yeah, yeah, definitely
definitely.

1168
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:13,700
But man, what a, what a shit
show of CGI, it's just

1169
01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:15,600
absolutely horrible.
Like when they're in the loading

1170
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,200
dock in that tentacles coming
through and they're hitting it

1171
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,000
with the acts as it's got the
movies.

1172
01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,600
Most great movie.
I love, I get the point across

1173
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:24,900
as long as you get the point
across.

1174
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:29,000
I'm okay with your shitty CGI.
Like if it's at least acceptable

1175
01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,200
and like I get what you're
doing.

1176
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,000
Okay, we're I'm in.
I'm here.

1177
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:37,200
I love it.
And I sometimes anyways, I'm

1178
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,300
sorry.
So yes, except it's not, you

1179
01:13:40,300 --> 01:13:43,400
know, one Highway intersecting
with another Highway like that.

1180
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,200
Like there's the two roads and
then there are touching each

1181
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,400
other at some point.
This point and this point is

1182
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,300
Skinwalker Ranch, it's more like
this, just Or twine fingers

1183
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,900
because the Angels the demons,
they're around us all the time.

1184
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,800
They expect, they are the reason
for most of the stuff that's

1185
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,900
going on in the world right now.
I'll get into more of a deeper.

1186
01:14:02,900 --> 01:14:07,500
When you force me to do like,
Revelation type, you know, or

1187
01:14:07,500 --> 01:14:11,600
Matthew 24 type topic.
But keep in mind, we're probably

1188
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:16,200
gonna get cancelled when I do,
but it just, you know, because

1189
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:19,200
I'm going to go, you know, hard
into it and you know, should all

1190
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,900
the fish is doing overall
Shadow, Man.

1191
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,600
This Earth is is pushing away
from right, but it's more like

1192
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:27,900
this, right?
It's it's everywhere, it's not,

1193
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:30,700
you know, the ants and then the
highway is going past them.

1194
01:14:30,700 --> 01:14:34,000
They don't notice it.
It's that the ants are on the

1195
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,300
highway in the highway, the
highway is everywhere around the

1196
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:39,400
ants.
So basically, our worlds are

1197
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:44,400
completely intersected and every
which way, it's just that we

1198
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,400
can't see it.
Because it's invisible, because

1199
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,700
it's not an hour.
You could say dimensional plane,

1200
01:14:49,700 --> 01:14:52,600
or you could just say that.
Actual beings without a physical

1201
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,800
body.
Can't be perceived, insane,

1202
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,200
maybe they can be seen through
technology sources.

1203
01:14:57,200 --> 01:14:59,500
Maybe that's what we see in the
show and stuff, I don't know.

1204
01:14:59,500 --> 01:15:03,800
But even then, I think that's
kind of a stretch, right?

1205
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:06,200
Something's not bound by our
physics.

1206
01:15:06,700 --> 01:15:10,900
It would be able to escape our
instruments that are bound by

1207
01:15:10,900 --> 01:15:15,600
our physics, right?
So I don't necessarily know if

1208
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:21,900
that's even a thing, but yeah, I
don't think that in that, Regard

1209
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:26,000
Skinwalker Ranch would have any
sort of like special qualities

1210
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:29,700
to it, because it would be
literally everywhere.

1211
01:15:30,300 --> 01:15:34,400
Although, back to my original
point, I do believe that there's

1212
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:38,000
increased activity there, the
question that I have is why and

1213
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,700
I researched it, you know, why
would that be?

1214
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:43,700
And I came up with nothing,
right?

1215
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:48,800
So it's just like, I don't know,
maybe it's just more focused on

1216
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:53,400
that area because there's A lot
less stuff going on.

1217
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:59,000
Anyway, you know, like like
Jeremy we talked about with the

1218
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,200
town that you just move to that.
I'm thinking about moving to

1219
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:07,100
after the Navy and their biggest
like thing in the last month or

1220
01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:14,600
so, was that there was a Victor
from the the national mullet

1221
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:18,600
Championship that got first
place there, and that's huge

1222
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,000
news there.
So if you could imagine Ian, any

1223
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:26,100
sort of alien activity or
demonic activity or even

1224
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:29,100
strange, natural phenomenon,
whatever happening in that area,

1225
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:32,600
it would be so focused on
because there's really, you

1226
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,200
know, if you look at all the
other stuff, there's not much

1227
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,100
else going on and that's what
draws me to the location because

1228
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:42,700
I want some dang, peace and
quiet, but maybe this is similar

1229
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:47,600
to that other other than, if you
took all the skinwalker stuff

1230
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:51,000
and you just kind of put it on a
shelf and you looked at the town

1231
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:56,000
Or the location or the county,
the you enter base encounter.

1232
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,500
You went to County.
I think it is, there would

1233
01:16:58,500 --> 01:17:02,700
really be nothing going on, but
because this is going on here,

1234
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:06,000
it's such a huge news versus
other areas where that stuff

1235
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:11,000
also occurs, but it's mixed in
there with constant carjackings

1236
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,700
or constant murders or something
like that, right?

1237
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:17,600
So yes, it appears in the news
but it's brushed over with other

1238
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:19,300
things that are constantly going
on.

1239
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:23,300
So maybe it's just that.
Lowell of activity is a focal

1240
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:28,000
point for that, you know, that
or the focus of it is then, you

1241
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,400
know, all the stuff that happens
everywhere else as well.

1242
01:17:31,700 --> 01:17:33,300
Okay.
To talk about the really

1243
01:17:33,300 --> 01:17:37,700
important thing that you said,
yes here in Bumfuck, nowhere

1244
01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:42,600
middle of Wisconsin.
Menomonie Wisconsin, a kid.

1245
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,900
I'm not going to say his last
name because I don't know, the

1246
01:17:44,900 --> 01:17:50,600
rules and everything, but the
kid named Emmett one when I saw

1247
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,600
the picture.
He yeah, he's cool.

1248
01:17:52,700 --> 01:17:57,500
USA had more Championship Was
Won by a kid named Emmett right

1249
01:17:57,500 --> 01:18:01,200
here in my new hometown of
Menomonie Wisconsin.

1250
01:18:01,500 --> 01:18:06,100
Fucking kid is a an absolute
stud mullet is a absolutely.

1251
01:18:06,900 --> 01:18:10,700
He's got a, he's got a mullet /
Mohawk, and it's like, holy

1252
01:18:10,700 --> 01:18:13,000
shit.
Like, what are you like, who's

1253
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,100
gonna beat that?
Nobody, that's why fucking

1254
01:18:15,100 --> 01:18:16,700
Emmett one.
Because it's a battered, your

1255
01:18:16,700 --> 01:18:26,400
mom's It's coming through.
All right, we'll give them will

1256
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:32,200
give you 10 years, but then it's
gonna be just tearing it up.

1257
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:35,500
But I wanted to say, kind of
like to add on to what Jake was

1258
01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:39,400
saying, the highway like, being
more intertwined, like fingers.

1259
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:42,700
It's as you were explaining that
I thought, almost like a nesting

1260
01:18:42,700 --> 01:18:45,700
doll situation.
Every time you get deeper and

1261
01:18:45,700 --> 01:18:49,600
deeper into it, you're finding a
new highway which is covered in

1262
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:53,400
a different dimension and it,
you just keep opening up

1263
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,100
different layers or opening up
the next doll and you find a new

1264
01:18:57,100 --> 01:19:01,900
dimension and That's just how I
was relating to it in my head.

1265
01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:04,300
Was you playing with a nesting
doll?

1266
01:19:06,700 --> 01:19:08,700
All right, you guys ready?
Move on.

1267
01:19:10,100 --> 01:19:13,700
Yep.
All right extraterrestrials and

1268
01:19:13,700 --> 01:19:18,500
intra terrestrials, the basics
behind this explanation is that

1269
01:19:18,500 --> 01:19:22,300
is almost identical to the
military Side Up Theory, except

1270
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:25,300
it is an alien race conducting
such experiments.

1271
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:27,800
What about another idea
involving ETS?

1272
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,400
The idea that they also know,
there is something very

1273
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,200
interesting about Skinwalker
Ranch, and they are there to

1274
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,500
investigate as well.
Yet, another idea involving

1275
01:19:36,500 --> 01:19:39,700
alien beings is that they are.
They're in search of a very

1276
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,900
Material known as gilsu night.
Gilson night is a lightweight

1277
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,200
solid black material, that is
the solidification of petroleum

1278
01:19:47,500 --> 01:19:50,600
and is found naturally in very
select locations in the world.

1279
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,100
The Uintah Basin being one of
these places.

1280
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,800
And what about intro
terrestrials beings that are

1281
01:19:56,900 --> 01:20:00,700
either ancient or Subterranean
that live within the old caves

1282
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:02,400
caverns and tunnels throughout
the basin?

1283
01:20:03,300 --> 01:20:06,100
Could the instruments that were
deployed by the nazim and many

1284
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:09,400
teams since be picking up on
technology from Far underground.

1285
01:20:09,700 --> 01:20:12,300
And could this technology look
like orbs, UFOs?

1286
01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:16,400
Dogman, cloak beans, and orange
tunnels connecting parallel

1287
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:22,600
worlds, No, yes I'm going to say
yes.

1288
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:25,700
I'm going to say yes on the
intro terrestrials and possibly

1289
01:20:25,700 --> 01:20:32,200
even crypto terrestrials.
That's it.

1290
01:20:33,500 --> 01:20:35,000
Yeah.
Oh, okay.

1291
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,000
Yes, quick.
Answer my Jeff.

1292
01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:40,700
You just must play in.
What interests real was do.

1293
01:20:40,700 --> 01:20:43,300
I need to explain again?
What a crypto dress real is know

1294
01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:46,100
you touched on that the other
day, but good, I mean, it must

1295
01:20:46,100 --> 01:20:52,400
be close to his bedtime because
I was quick, You are correct,

1296
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:56,400
but it was just a quick thought.
I just got an update on my phone

1297
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,200
that says watch Star Wars on
something I just flick through

1298
01:21:00,300 --> 01:21:02,800
listening.
They're listening to us is

1299
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,900
actually much deeper than that.
We have time to get it.

1300
01:21:04,900 --> 01:21:08,100
No, we can't get in there.
Save up for an episode.

1301
01:21:08,100 --> 01:21:10,200
It will save a report on the
lapis owed on it.

1302
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,700
What we sought to do the birds
aren't real, it's terrifying,

1303
01:21:13,700 --> 01:21:19,000
but okay, I'm gonna say no to
extraterrestrials but yes to

1304
01:21:19,100 --> 01:21:25,800
Eject blue beam, what a what a
great focus, a great spot to

1305
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:30,000
focus this idea and this
brainwashing of the masses of

1306
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:34,000
the UFOs and all this crap
halogens man, just test them.

1307
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,600
Just keep putting out there.
I mean, shoot like shoot.

1308
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:43,200
What if what if this is a black
budget project area, right, why

1309
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,300
would they then invite the
History Channel to come and film

1310
01:21:47,300 --> 01:21:50,500
and record all over it?
Not tell them what the vehicles

1311
01:21:50,500 --> 01:21:54,300
are, but let them assume that
their you AP is, or UFOs or

1312
01:21:54,300 --> 01:21:57,500
aliens, or something like that.
If not to accentuate.

1313
01:21:57,500 --> 01:22:00,800
This idea that the
extraterrestrials are here and

1314
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,500
they're visiting us whether
that's to cover up military

1315
01:22:03,500 --> 01:22:07,500
vehicles, or to push this idea
of like a project blue beam type

1316
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:10,200
scenario, where they know
something's coming and they want

1317
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,300
to have a plan B to say, hey,
this is why this happened, it's

1318
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:17,200
because of the aliens, For more
information on Project blue

1319
01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:26,500
beams.
Check out that going to back

1320
01:22:26,500 --> 01:22:28,600
pedal into it.
Right into it, right?

1321
01:22:28,700 --> 01:22:30,500
Right into my I got you right
here man.

1322
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,700
Yeah West kid.
What do you guys think?

1323
01:22:34,100 --> 01:22:36,300
I got nothing on this one,
honestly.

1324
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:44,900
I can lean more towards the
inner turret and treacherous

1325
01:22:44,900 --> 01:22:48,800
Trails just because that that
seems to make a little more

1326
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,100
sense there.
If especially if it's like you

1327
01:22:51,108 --> 01:22:54,900
can't dig in the ground.
Well why somebody's got to know

1328
01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:59,900
what's going on there but I
really don't know what to think

1329
01:22:59,900 --> 01:23:02,400
about this one.
I don't buy into the

1330
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,300
Extra-Terrestrial stories for
this.

1331
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:14,000
All right, Wesley King.
I had a thought and just went is

1332
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:19,200
gone and I cannot I'm like
always something to do with what

1333
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,900
Jake was talking about in the
last part of his thing but I

1334
01:23:21,907 --> 01:23:23,500
can't remember what the fuck
that was now.

1335
01:23:23,500 --> 01:23:26,600
It just don't fully match card.
Was it like that the

1336
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,000
intersection of the dimensions
like like a the fingers

1337
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,500
intersecting.
I'll keep saying stuff until it

1338
01:23:32,500 --> 01:23:34,800
jogs your memory.
Like like what I did with Ken's,

1339
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,800
are it, was it a rest after it
was after that it was after

1340
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,200
that.
Project is ahead of them.

1341
01:23:42,300 --> 01:23:49,700
The Miss was the mullet all this
time that happens.

1342
01:23:49,700 --> 01:23:53,800
Just interrupt you or me and
just or whatever, I got it for

1343
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:58,400
real.
Oh my God, I mean, it's all

1344
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,200
right, with your whole with your
whole inner dimension thing,

1345
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,500
that was like, what I was trying
to describe.

1346
01:24:03,500 --> 01:24:06,400
I don't think it's just, you
know, one over here, one over

1347
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:11,400
here and they're crossing paths,
you know, across the If you

1348
01:24:11,407 --> 01:24:16,400
will, was it in relation to like
the, the sleepiness of the Town

1349
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,300
versus the activity and then
other places where there's more

1350
01:24:19,300 --> 01:24:21,800
activity now.
I remember, so, you're talking

1351
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,700
about, thank you.
Thank you.

1352
01:24:24,500 --> 01:24:27,100
You're talking about how the
government is going to have like

1353
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:29,300
a plan to throw people off the
trail, right?

1354
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:35,200
And oh yeah have them.
You know not think that Stuff's

1355
01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:37,400
going on there.
For me, I think it's kind of

1356
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:45,400
like a I don't know conspiracy
Inception where, you know, these

1357
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,200
types of things, they are
testing it there but throw

1358
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,200
people away off the trail,
they're going to put stuff out

1359
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,500
there.
That's somewhat convincing to

1360
01:24:53,500 --> 01:24:55,600
make people think that.
Okay, there is something going

1361
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:59,000
there but it's not military, you
know, because it's just, I don't

1362
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,400
know, it's so Random all the
different events that are

1363
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,100
happening.
So I don't know.

1364
01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:09,400
Maybe that's just there, you
know, I don't know.

1365
01:25:10,500 --> 01:25:14,500
They got they have their like 10
moves ahead of us, you know, you

1366
01:25:14,500 --> 01:25:20,400
mean like maybe there are say
People walking around and

1367
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:24,400
cloaking devices, chimeras all
kinds of stuff focused in this

1368
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,900
point.
But instead of saying, well,

1369
01:25:27,900 --> 01:25:30,000
obviously, this is what we're
working on, they're just

1370
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,600
allowing people to discover it.
And then people just

1371
01:25:32,700 --> 01:25:35,700
imaginations are running rampant
everywhere, every direction

1372
01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:38,300
except for black budget or
government activity.

1373
01:25:38,300 --> 01:25:40,700
Yeah, yeah.
It's done except for, that's

1374
01:25:40,700 --> 01:25:49,500
exactly where I'm going.
You know, that, like, I think

1375
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:52,700
that's totally plausible.
I think I'm sure that their

1376
01:25:52,700 --> 01:25:56,800
government is doing that and for
a lot of different things on

1377
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:01,200
purpose because you know, I
don't know, I can't think of an

1378
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:06,400
example of top of a head butt.
It's I don't know.

1379
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:10,000
It basically takes care of
itself, you know, that there's

1380
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,600
very little, the government has
to do except get the initially

1381
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:15,200
going and then it just kind of
feeds on itself in a

1382
01:26:15,208 --> 01:26:19,100
self-sufficient after that.
You know, what's there?

1383
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:23,200
This is more of a Jeff question.
Maybe Jeremy to was there any

1384
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,000
The Philadelphia Experiment
though?

1385
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:29,500
You know, I guess theories
surrounding that.

1386
01:26:29,500 --> 01:26:31,500
Was there.
Anything that came about that

1387
01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:34,300
that pointed away from the
government or is that mostly

1388
01:26:34,300 --> 01:26:36,900
like know We looked at them in
there like that was the

1389
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:39,000
government.
The Philadelphia Experiment is

1390
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:41,500
well, documented, government
experiment.

1391
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,800
Are you talking about the
Montauk project?

1392
01:26:44,900 --> 01:26:47,300
Or make me like, like Heather
really?

1393
01:26:47,300 --> 01:26:50,600
Has there been any like, getting
away from like the UFO?

1394
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,100
UAP thing.
Has there been any like

1395
01:26:52,100 --> 01:26:53,900
government experiments that have
happened?

1396
01:26:54,100 --> 01:26:58,100
Where it really LED people into
these other just random

1397
01:26:58,100 --> 01:27:01,100
locations versus immediately
pointing out the government

1398
01:27:01,100 --> 01:27:04,700
saying this was a this was or a
black budget project or

1399
01:27:04,700 --> 01:27:06,200
something.
I like that like where it was

1400
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,900
successful in like you know, all
these people away.

1401
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:13,600
It's will false flags are well.
I mean, cuz, you know, I mean

1402
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,100
yeah I agree with with Wes, you
know what's a specific example

1403
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:21,300
and personally, I have none but
you guys are doing, I mean, any

1404
01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:23,200
false flag.
That's exactly what it is.

1405
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:28,700
I mean, the details will change,
but I mean like the Gulf of

1406
01:27:28,700 --> 01:27:32,600
Tonkin, for instance, you know,
did that was we totally thought

1407
01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:37,300
that this was some That went
down and we went over there to

1408
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:38,800
handle business.
Come to find out.

1409
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,600
It was totally, not some shit
that went down.

1410
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,500
So, the government totally had
us looking over here at the left

1411
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:44,800
hand.
While the right hand was pulling

1412
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,800
a magic trick and that's one of
you with that is.

1413
01:27:47,500 --> 01:27:49,100
That's the reason we went to
Vietnam.

1414
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:51,700
Yeah, yeah.
No.

1415
01:27:51,700 --> 01:27:57,600
I'm sorry.
Pick up a history book but I

1416
01:27:57,700 --> 01:28:00,700
can't read.
Didn't teach me how to read in

1417
01:28:00,700 --> 01:28:04,500
AD school anyway, it's true.
They don't know.

1418
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,400
This literally affects the
branch of military that you're

1419
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:08,800
in.
You know.

1420
01:28:08,900 --> 01:28:15,300
This was this was a time.
I am a Aviation Navy, I'm not

1421
01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:17,100
some boat donkey.
All right, started.

1422
01:28:17,100 --> 01:28:19,100
One of the biggest events.
I know.

1423
01:28:19,100 --> 01:28:22,400
It's not the biggest events in
the last century.

1424
01:28:22,500 --> 01:28:26,800
All right, come on.
But it's just wrong.

1425
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:33,100
So you know, any false flag is
look over here.

1426
01:28:33,100 --> 01:28:37,500
Why do something over here?
Okay, he be no boat, Chuck shoe.

1427
01:28:37,500 --> 01:28:39,800
Okay, that's right.
But I don't know how to read.

1428
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,800
So if there's about donkeys that
know how to read, well, you got

1429
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:47,600
me, they said, this is what I
torque value is.

1430
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,700
Can go get em, tiger.
I can't help it.

1431
01:28:50,900 --> 01:28:55,100
I've tried, you're beyond help.
Yeah, yeah, you got me.

1432
01:28:55,700 --> 01:28:57,700
Are you guys ready to move on?
Yep.

1433
01:28:57,900 --> 01:29:01,700
All right, we're just a little
over halfway done.

1434
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:02,600
Jeff.
You ready?

1435
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:04,300
Don't do it.
Shit.

1436
01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:08,000
You're so full of shit.
All right here, I'll pop off.

1437
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:12,800
Let's see the next one's pretty
long but I can do.

1438
01:29:13,700 --> 01:29:19,200
Okay, here we go.
I'll just I'll pop off the next

1439
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:23,000
two together.
Okay, so natural phenomena.

1440
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:26,300
What if the property is on a
plethora of magnetic Metals,

1441
01:29:26,300 --> 01:29:29,400
causing people to see things
that may not actually be there

1442
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,000
with the large amounts of Rare
Minerals in ramen Metals in the

1443
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:36,000
UN to Basin one of the most
common theories about the ranch

1444
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,700
is that everything that happens
is either due to or for the

1445
01:29:39,700 --> 01:29:42,900
natural build of landscape.
Magnets have been known to cause

1446
01:29:42,900 --> 01:29:46,200
many harmful strange, and
beneficial effects on humans,

1447
01:29:46,200 --> 01:29:50,100
could it be that the Regular
magnetic readings commonly

1448
01:29:50,100 --> 01:29:52,900
recorded on the ranch could
actually be what is causing us

1449
01:29:52,900 --> 01:29:55,100
to one.
See something that is not really

1450
01:29:55,100 --> 01:29:57,600
there to causing something to be
there.

1451
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,100
That is not naturally attracted
to other parts of the world or

1452
01:30:01,300 --> 01:30:04,600
what a Skinwalker Ranch is the
one place on Earth that we can

1453
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:09,000
get proof of Michael Persinger.
And John has ders tectonic

1454
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,100
String Theory, which predicts
that luminous phenomena and

1455
01:30:12,100 --> 01:30:16,100
Associated physical effects can
be produced by maintained by

1456
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:20,100
manifestations of tectonic.
Strain that often perceived, by

1457
01:30:20,100 --> 01:30:23,800
weeks to months of seismic
events with a region in layman's

1458
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,100
terms, the theory claims that
UFOs.

1459
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:29,500
And orbs can be created by the
movement of tectonic plates and

1460
01:30:29,500 --> 01:30:34,500
the actual visual effects.
We see, as these UFOs or orbs

1461
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:37,600
are actually just residual
energy given off from the force

1462
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:41,400
of gigantic rock, formations
rubbing or colliding together,

1463
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:46,000
moving on directly into the next
one mirages and hallucinations.

1464
01:30:46,300 --> 01:30:49,400
What if we looked at the other?
Of things here, instead of

1465
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,900
looking at the property as a
cause for hallucinations.

1466
01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:55,300
What if the effects were caused
internally to our own minds?

1467
01:30:55,300 --> 01:30:58,700
Instead, in the hunt in the book
hunt for the skinwalker

1468
01:30:58,700 --> 01:31:02,600
Kelleher, an app mentioned, that
one possibility is often brought

1469
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:07,100
up is that the Sherman suffered
from a folio do like case of

1470
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:11,000
paraphernalia time, for some
definitions, according to the

1471
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,700
National Library of Medicine,
the phenomenon known as Folly at

1472
01:31:14,700 --> 01:31:19,300
U is defined as in identical.
Or similar mental disorder,

1473
01:31:19,300 --> 01:31:21,400
affecting two or more
individuals.

1474
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,800
Usually the members of a close
family.

1475
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:27,800
And according to net meds.com
pair of her renia is a type of

1476
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,800
mental disorder characterized by
paranoid delusions, the affected

1477
01:31:31,800 --> 01:31:35,900
individual experiences imaginary
fears or anxieties that are

1478
01:31:35,900 --> 01:31:39,900
often exaggerated, but do not
undergo significant loss of

1479
01:31:39,900 --> 01:31:44,100
intellectual capabilities such
as memory and daily routine

1480
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:47,600
habits, could the Sherman's have
been sharing a case of paranoid

1481
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:52,400
delusions, Through fear and
anxiety over the then recent

1482
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:59,800
shift in their lies.
No, no, to both.

1483
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,300
Basically, the first one is
about magnets and the second one

1484
01:32:07,300 --> 01:32:08,900
is mental errors.
Yeah.

1485
01:32:08,900 --> 01:32:15,400
I mean, I can see the magnet
thing being possible, perhaps,

1486
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:19,400
but paranoid delusions shared by
multiple people.

1487
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:24,700
And not just them, right?
I mean still to this day

1488
01:32:24,700 --> 01:32:29,800
apparently yeah I'm not I'm not
buying that yeah ever like what

1489
01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:32,900
I said in that one episode maybe
everybody's huffing and some

1490
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:35,900
pollen off some psychedelic
plant that's growing that

1491
01:32:35,900 --> 01:32:39,200
nobody's at is something that
they looked into the needs team

1492
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,400
did actively look for
hallucinogenic plants in the

1493
01:32:42,400 --> 01:32:44,800
area to see if that could be
effect.

1494
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,300
Went out there smoking peyote in
the desert.

1495
01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:54,300
Everyone, the entire town men,
women children, smoking peyote

1496
01:32:54,500 --> 01:32:57,900
and being like, Oh yeah, I
thought is actually kind of

1497
01:32:58,300 --> 01:33:02,000
thought that was actually kind
of ridiculous idea, but I guess

1498
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:04,700
it's actually quite scientific
of an idea.

1499
01:33:04,700 --> 01:33:08,900
So it was looked into by the his
team and they found nothing that

1500
01:33:08,900 --> 01:33:12,100
was going to be.
My question, were they smoking

1501
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:14,500
something?
Then just so happen to share a

1502
01:33:14,508 --> 01:33:16,800
trip for like what was going on
here.

1503
01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:20,900
So, thank you for answering my
question without having basket.

1504
01:33:22,900 --> 01:33:27,300
Anything else anybody?
I think that that's I think

1505
01:33:27,300 --> 01:33:30,900
that's a stretch help me out
here.

1506
01:33:30,900 --> 01:33:38,200
The the Gentleman, that first
conducted all, the research for

1507
01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:42,400
the ranch he passed away
recently and Junior something or

1508
01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:44,400
other.
Yeah, Junior Hicks, Junior

1509
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,800
Hicks.
So he when he first started his

1510
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,700
research, according to the
documentary, he had like a

1511
01:33:50,700 --> 01:33:54,300
thousand UFO sightings that he
was going through and right

1512
01:33:54,300 --> 01:33:58,400
away.
He was able to get rid of most

1513
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:01,400
of them until he was left with
about 400 UFO.

1514
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:05,800
Sightings I couldn't right away
be documented as just Fake

1515
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:09,300
nonsense, right?
And then he went into actually

1516
01:34:09,300 --> 01:34:11,700
interviewing people that seen
UFOs and things like that.

1517
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,900
I think that with the amount of
things that have been seen on

1518
01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:19,200
that ranch by so many different
individuals and not just people

1519
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,600
who've lived on the ranch or
lived around the ranch.

1520
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:25,800
But people in the town that's
near it that it's been decades

1521
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,200
and decades and Decades of
stuff.

1522
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:34,100
I think that you could say that
a lot of it is probably, you

1523
01:34:34,100 --> 01:34:37,600
know, To get your 15 minutes of
fame.

1524
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:42,300
A lot of it could be, you know,
as a practical joke or just

1525
01:34:42,300 --> 01:34:45,300
deception, or whatever it is or
just shut out the flat out lies,

1526
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:48,700
right?
But certainly, some of it, a

1527
01:34:48,700 --> 01:34:52,900
certain percentage of it has to
be some people actually saw

1528
01:34:52,900 --> 01:35:00,100
something, and I don't think
that if that, that percentage is

1529
01:35:00,100 --> 01:35:04,500
spaced out across an entire
County, or a state of people

1530
01:35:04,500 --> 01:35:07,500
that know, Know about this
location that you could really

1531
01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:12,100
chalk it up into everyone's,
having some similar trip which I

1532
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:16,000
think scientifically.
There's never been two people

1533
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:19,000
that have shared a trip that has
been exactly similar.

1534
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:23,000
So, because of the way that your
brain works as an individual,

1535
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,000
your own experiences, your own
emotions blob.

1536
01:35:25,000 --> 01:35:28,000
All this sort of stuff, even
people on like shared DMT trips,

1537
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:31,500
like they may see the same
figure but they don't have the

1538
01:35:31,500 --> 01:35:36,200
exact same trip.
Now, DMT Has been trials where

1539
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,100
people have had the same trip,
the exact same one that that's

1540
01:35:40,100 --> 01:35:43,300
the, that's the only thing that
I can come up with, as an

1541
01:35:43,300 --> 01:35:46,300
argument to what you said there.
I know you have more started

1542
01:35:46,300 --> 01:35:50,800
happening, but there have been
trials with DMT, where people

1543
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:53,400
have had the exact same trip.
I'm looking at now.

1544
01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,100
Tim, I can see Devin.
They all are having the exact

1545
01:35:57,100 --> 01:36:01,800
same trip space across decades
and Decades of time, know if so

1546
01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:03,400
still sticking with it.
I don't.

1547
01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:05,300
So I think that there is some
legitimacy See.

1548
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:10,200
Now again, is that legitimacy
without, you know, beaten, this

1549
01:36:10,200 --> 01:36:12,600
horse even more dead?
Is that legitimacy?

1550
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:15,400
Because they're seeing UFOs, I
doubt it.

1551
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,800
Or at least in their perception,
it would be a UFO, right?

1552
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,700
But is it aliens?
I doubt it.

1553
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:25,600
You know, are they seeing the
Predator monster?

1554
01:36:25,900 --> 01:36:30,400
Very highly doubt it, right?
More likely it's something,

1555
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:34,300
whatever that that saying is, or
that, that theory that it's more

1556
01:36:34,300 --> 01:36:39,000
likely the The easiest thing to
explain Occam's razor Occam's

1557
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:39,800
razor.
There you go.

1558
01:36:40,500 --> 01:36:43,000
So I think that there's
definitely more truth to it than

1559
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:46,900
just to just chalk it up to it's
a shared experience or there's

1560
01:36:46,900 --> 01:36:51,700
everyone's tripping out or it's
some sort of like hallucinogenic

1561
01:36:51,700 --> 01:36:56,200
delusions that somehow an entire
town or county is suffering from

1562
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,200
because that's a lot.
That's a huge Mental Health

1563
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,600
crisis.
If there's there's like a poison

1564
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:05,200
water supply, if everyone's, you
know, freaking out and Our

1565
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,100
brains melting and stuff that's
like lead in the water.

1566
01:37:08,100 --> 01:37:09,900
You know they need to figure out
what's going on.

1567
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:11,900
That's like that River in
Michigan.

1568
01:37:11,900 --> 01:37:14,400
That's on fire right now.
Sort of you know, levels of

1569
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:16,200
pollution that people are
drinking, right?

1570
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,600
So Flint Michigan.
So that's not that's wouldn't be

1571
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,700
something to be, you know,
laughed at her on a podcast for

1572
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:24,700
and I think they would have been
found out, right?

1573
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:30,200
Sure, maybe also, who knows?
Are you ready to move on?

1574
01:37:31,700 --> 01:37:36,200
Yeah.
Okay, deception and hopes.

1575
01:37:37,300 --> 01:37:40,400
What if the Sherman's we're
making this up from the get-go?

1576
01:37:41,200 --> 01:37:44,500
Some disbelievers have come to
the conclusion that the

1577
01:37:44,500 --> 01:37:48,500
Sherman's may have realized that
they bought Dead Land to conduct

1578
01:37:48,500 --> 01:37:51,800
a business that required land.
That would provide grazing for

1579
01:37:51,900 --> 01:37:53,300
the animals that they were
raising.

1580
01:37:53,900 --> 01:37:57,700
Although it does rain in the UN
to Basin the annual average is

1581
01:37:57,700 --> 01:38:00,700
only about 8 inches per year,
where the national average is

1582
01:38:00,700 --> 01:38:05,000
roughly 38 snow on the other
hand is different. 22 inches on

1583
01:38:05,000 --> 01:38:06,600
average.
Will fall every year in the

1584
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:11,000
area, just 6 inches shy of the
national average, but is this

1585
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:14,500
enough to support the business
of raising high quality Black

1586
01:38:14,500 --> 01:38:16,400
Angus?
Honestly, I don't know.

1587
01:38:17,000 --> 01:38:20,500
I do know that some people have
made it work in the area, but

1588
01:38:20,500 --> 01:38:23,000
are they doing so with the
generations of experience on

1589
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:26,400
these lands, passed down through
their lineage, did the Sherman's

1590
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,900
fall victim to the shock of
running a ranch in the UN to

1591
01:38:28,900 --> 01:38:31,000
Basin?
Did they attempt to get their

1592
01:38:31,300 --> 01:38:35,000
Back to business or home
insurance by blaming a strange

1593
01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:38,400
set of experiences on the Lander
itself.

1594
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:42,300
Or were they attempting to wipe
away a bad investment by turning

1595
01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:45,600
the ranch into a researchers,
amusement park one?

1596
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,800
That would be sought out by a
billionaire, investor, or

1597
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,900
government entity.
Eager to investigate

1598
01:38:49,900 --> 01:38:56,400
otherworldly technology.
Now, with the price that they

1599
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,800
sold it at, they didn't make any
money off of it Isabel.

1600
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:05,500
And I'm sure they're not
profiting anything now at also

1601
01:39:05,500 --> 01:39:07,700
Sherman's know.
Yeah, exactly.

1602
01:39:07,700 --> 01:39:12,300
So I don't think that he He very
well, could have been making

1603
01:39:12,300 --> 01:39:17,400
stuff up for the I'm not
doubting that whatsoever, but I

1604
01:39:17,407 --> 01:39:24,900
don't think it was out of means
of profit, or save his Rancher,

1605
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,500
his business or whatever that
may be essentially, it was a

1606
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:34,400
means of profit.
No for what he sold the ranch at

1607
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,500
and the fact that he hasn't
written a book, they didn't go

1608
01:39:37,500 --> 01:39:40,800
out of their way to try and make
money off of this entire thing.

1609
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,700
It to me gives more plausibility
that it's real.

1610
01:39:46,700 --> 01:39:52,400
So I don't believe that this is
the case, but I can see it being

1611
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:56,800
a possibility, you know, I don't
get necessarily hung up on how

1612
01:39:56,800 --> 01:40:01,500
much they sold it for because
plans fail sometimes, right?

1613
01:40:01,500 --> 01:40:04,400
So, Could they have said, you
know what?

1614
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:08,600
We fucked up this place sucks.
Let's try to get our money back

1615
01:40:08,600 --> 01:40:11,200
by Insurance.
Kill off a couple Cows.

1616
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:14,800
Say we want to get out of here,
we don't feel safe and let other

1617
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:19,900
entities move us possibly right?
They could have said that and it

1618
01:40:19,900 --> 01:40:23,200
could have failed you know the
insurance could be my ya jackass

1619
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:27,900
know and it came back and bit
them in the ass.

1620
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:32,800
I think that if this is the case
that's It happened obviously

1621
01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,100
because they didn't sell it for
for very much.

1622
01:40:36,700 --> 01:40:40,300
But this is, this is not what I
believe happened, but I think it

1623
01:40:40,300 --> 01:40:42,500
does.
It could hold some plausibility

1624
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:52,100
I think that there's definitely
some stuff going on again.

1625
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:55,300
Again, again, again,
piggybacking off myself, a lot

1626
01:40:55,300 --> 01:40:57,700
of it could be, you know, and
bala's you back off?

1627
01:40:57,700 --> 01:41:00,100
What Jake said.
Yeah, it could be embellished

1628
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:02,700
and fluffed, and Jamal, wessels
front, all that sort of stuff,

1629
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,000
but I don't think that all of
its made up.

1630
01:41:06,100 --> 01:41:10,300
I think that there is a either a
focal point of activity, or it's

1631
01:41:10,300 --> 01:41:13,600
just the, really, the only thing
that's going on because, I mean,

1632
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,900
we've talked about, Their places
in the in this show were some

1633
01:41:16,900 --> 01:41:20,200
crazy stuff happened.
And if you look up the news that

1634
01:41:20,200 --> 01:41:23,000
area, there's other things that
go on constantly, it's not the

1635
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,300
front page news every single day
versus this thing, which if

1636
01:41:26,300 --> 01:41:28,800
there's nothing going on,
otherwise besides a bunch of

1637
01:41:28,900 --> 01:41:33,500
cattle ranches than this would
be top news every time something

1638
01:41:33,500 --> 01:41:37,500
happened, right?
So yeah, I don't know.

1639
01:41:37,500 --> 01:41:41,200
I think I think that there is
some strangeness and I'll get

1640
01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:44,000
into it more in my final
thoughts Westwood.

1641
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:45,200
You think man, we have heard for
me.

1642
01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:50,500
I mean, I've been saying all
along, I think is something

1643
01:41:51,300 --> 01:41:55,700
something's actually happening,
something not of this world or

1644
01:41:55,700 --> 01:42:01,300
universe, or Dimension, whatever
you want to call it, and we have

1645
01:42:01,300 --> 01:42:05,400
no involvement whatsoever other
than trying to maybe monitor it.

1646
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:13,800
I don't think we're nearly smart
enough to take on something like

1647
01:42:13,800 --> 01:42:20,700
that and have control of it.
Alright, two West's point.

1648
01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:26,400
What do you guys think about the
idea that the reason?

1649
01:42:26,400 --> 01:42:30,600
Why because the needs team, they
didn't they own the ranch at

1650
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,400
some point?
Yes, they okay.

1651
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:36,600
Everyone's, well the Robert
Bigelow bought it but he is the

1652
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,000
owner of knit the right
destination team.

1653
01:42:39,500 --> 01:42:44,500
So technically yes, Tech maybe
the reasoning for this.

1654
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:49,000
If there was black budget or
government type experimentation

1655
01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:54,700
going on in this area is because
Of the increased in activity

1656
01:42:54,800 --> 01:43:00,200
from inner dimensionals if we're
if we call them that or demonic

1657
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:03,400
activity, or something like that
because I can't, I can't look at

1658
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:09,000
the government right now and say
that they aren't really really

1659
01:43:09,000 --> 01:43:14,300
into this whole demonic activity
type stuff and you know the

1660
01:43:14,300 --> 01:43:17,600
media and all sorts of stuff.
So if it was already happening

1661
01:43:18,500 --> 01:43:22,000
And it was happening at a higher
frequency than other places.

1662
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:26,100
This might be a really cool
place for a government agency or

1663
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:30,700
a black budget agency, to try to
set up shop and do their

1664
01:43:30,700 --> 01:43:35,000
experiments.
You know, what sort of, you

1665
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:38,200
know, discoveries could be made
in an area that has.

1666
01:43:38,500 --> 01:43:42,400
Let's just call it a
interdimensional rift or

1667
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,400
something like that.
That's no, that's known about,

1668
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:50,200
you know, laser-focused from a
An agency to go over to that

1669
01:43:50,200 --> 01:43:52,500
location to try to do some
experiments.

1670
01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:55,500
That maybe can't be done,
anywhere else because the

1671
01:43:55,500 --> 01:43:58,200
physics there might be different
or something, right?

1672
01:43:59,900 --> 01:44:03,300
Or I don't know, I'm just kind
of spitballing craziness

1673
01:44:03,300 --> 01:44:07,600
because, you know, I feel like I
have to up it, you know, but I

1674
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,000
feel like we're all just holding
on to our final thoughts because

1675
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:14,600
we don't want to let anything
go, which is helping as I go.

1676
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:22,700
I have one.
I'm way more, I got one more and

1677
01:44:22,700 --> 01:44:26,500
then I have my final thoughts
and then we'll break into

1678
01:44:26,700 --> 01:44:29,600
everybody's.
All right, all right.

1679
01:44:29,700 --> 01:44:34,700
Precognitive intelligence
throughout the time that the

1680
01:44:34,700 --> 01:44:37,100
needs team was actively
investigating the ranch.

1681
01:44:37,100 --> 01:44:40,300
They came to the conclusion that
they were dealing with what they

1682
01:44:40,300 --> 01:44:43,300
called a precognitive
intelligence.

1683
01:44:43,300 --> 01:44:46,500
What this basically means is
that they believe that the

1684
01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:49,300
intelligence behind the
happenings in the ranch was

1685
01:44:49,300 --> 01:44:52,200
actually able to predict what
the team was going to do, before

1686
01:44:52,200 --> 01:44:57,200
they even knew what they were
going to do author, Conrad Bauer

1687
01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:00,400
makes an interesting argument in
favor of Of the Nerds team

1688
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:03,200
decision in his book.
The Skinwalker Ranch he

1689
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:06,100
describes that Quantum.
Physicists have made many

1690
01:45:06,100 --> 01:45:09,400
fascinating discoveries and one
of those is that the world on

1691
01:45:09,407 --> 01:45:13,000
the quantum level, reacts to our
observations before you fight

1692
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,900
this concept, understand that
this has been proven many times

1693
01:45:16,900 --> 01:45:20,400
all around the world.
Light waves have been witnessed

1694
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,700
becoming particle spontaneously
due to our observation, if the

1695
01:45:24,700 --> 01:45:27,900
quantum world can adjust and
react to our two observation.

1696
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,100
What is this a that part?
The visible world can't do that.

1697
01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:35,900
Same this all leads us to a man
by the name of Colonel.

1698
01:45:35,900 --> 01:45:39,000
John Alexander during the
Vietnam war.

1699
01:45:39,200 --> 01:45:41,800
Colonel Alexander was the
subject of a secret military

1700
01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:45,800
unit attempting to conduct Spy
Games by the use of metaphysical

1701
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:48,600
means sidenote Colonel.
John Alexander was the

1702
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,500
inspiration for the characters
in the movie Men Who Stare at

1703
01:45:51,500 --> 01:45:54,200
Goats and you can listen to a
really fun and awesome breakdown

1704
01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:57,200
of the movie and the secret
government projects.

1705
01:45:57,200 --> 01:45:59,500
It all covers by heading on over
to our good friends.

1706
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:03,500
Podcast called talking with
Shadows episode 59, April,

1707
01:46:03,500 --> 01:46:07,100
Twenty, Ninth, twenty Twenty-One
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1708
01:46:07,100 --> 01:46:09,600
Goats with infinite rabbit hole
and check out CJ.

1709
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:13,700
Andrew and I break all of these
down besides that Colonel,

1710
01:46:13,700 --> 01:46:16,900
Alexander would go on to
continue his career with Vietnam

1711
01:46:16,900 --> 01:46:19,600
as an intelligence officer,
working on classified studies of

1712
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:24,100
UFO phenomenon, it was Colonel.
Alexander that first described

1713
01:46:24,200 --> 01:46:27,300
the he believed that the entity
behind the happenings at

1714
01:46:27,300 --> 01:46:30,600
Skinwalker Ranch.
Was what is known and referred

1715
01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,700
to as a trickster author
conrad.bear.

1716
01:46:33,700 --> 01:46:36,700
Again, makes connections to
these claims by presenting the

1717
01:46:36,700 --> 01:46:39,200
history of trickster entities
through folklore in history

1718
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,500
Loki.
Leprechauns elves and by a thin

1719
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:45,700
margin, Navajo, legend of the
skinwalker all deal with

1720
01:46:45,700 --> 01:46:50,100
Supernatural are otherworldly
beings as seem to exist to trick

1721
01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:51,700
and scare those in their
crosshairs.

1722
01:46:51,700 --> 01:46:54,400
Tricksters have been talked
about all around the world from

1723
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,800
all walks of life.
Although they go by many names,

1724
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:00,700
once you here, Their
descriptions and mannerisms is

1725
01:47:00,700 --> 01:47:03,700
clear that this trickster entity
is what they are all talking

1726
01:47:03,700 --> 01:47:06,500
about.
And side note, here it is the

1727
01:47:06,500 --> 01:47:08,600
character mr.
Mixie yet.

1728
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:13,300
Spit lick from the DC Universe.
Superman comics is based

1729
01:47:13,300 --> 01:47:17,300
directly off the idea of the
interdimensional trickster and

1730
01:47:17,300 --> 01:47:20,100
actually did a really good job
at Epic not so not.

1731
01:47:20,100 --> 01:47:23,400
So I'm very happy with myself.
So, what'd you guys think the

1732
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:27,000
cosmic trickster?
Yeah, definitely with that.

1733
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,600
This idea as well because I
totally I believe that there are

1734
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,600
these entities, I, you know,
back to something that was said

1735
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:36,300
earlier that, you know, these
IDs, ancient ideas of whatever

1736
01:47:36,300 --> 01:47:38,400
it is like this.
Had to come from something.

1737
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:40,800
Whether you're talking about a
mythology or religion, or

1738
01:47:40,808 --> 01:47:43,100
whatever it is, something
happened.

1739
01:47:43,500 --> 01:47:49,100
And these people created these
these mythologies to pass down

1740
01:47:49,100 --> 01:47:52,300
to, you know, record these
events that were happening and I

1741
01:47:52,308 --> 01:47:54,600
believe it.
Most of these events were the

1742
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,200
interactions with these
different entities.

1743
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:01,600
I don't know if there's 10
entities or billion as these, I

1744
01:48:01,608 --> 01:48:05,900
have no idea but the architect
archetypes of these entities,

1745
01:48:06,900 --> 01:48:09,500
Carry across cultures across
time, right?

1746
01:48:09,500 --> 01:48:14,100
The tricksters, you know, the
shapeshifters, you know, like

1747
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:18,300
Genies, you know, different
entities that you can find

1748
01:48:18,300 --> 01:48:20,600
everywhere.
So could this be one of these

1749
01:48:20,700 --> 01:48:22,800
trickster entities?
Just fucking with people,

1750
01:48:23,100 --> 01:48:30,700
totally could be I'm in line
with Jeff on This one or maybe

1751
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:35,200
go even further what people saw,
they just create it.

1752
01:48:35,200 --> 01:48:37,700
That's what where the trickster
came from, you know?

1753
01:48:37,700 --> 01:48:42,100
I don't know.
But it can't all these tales and

1754
01:48:42,100 --> 01:48:45,300
and myths the mythologies.
They all came from somewhere.

1755
01:48:46,700 --> 01:48:51,000
So yeah, I like the story.
I like this one.

1756
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:55,500
A lot and my travels and the
internet.

1757
01:48:55,700 --> 01:48:58,300
What not every once in a while
come across a story.

1758
01:48:58,300 --> 01:49:02,000
It's like oh I think I heard a
skinwalker outside my door.

1759
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,500
They were mocking this person
that I see all the time but

1760
01:49:05,500 --> 01:49:07,900
there's no way this person could
have been outside while blah

1761
01:49:07,900 --> 01:49:10,300
blah blah blah or I heard a
crying baby blah blah, blah,

1762
01:49:10,300 --> 01:49:16,000
blah, stuff like that.
Now just makes sense, they're

1763
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:20,000
hearing tricksters, it's not,
it's not the skinwalker that

1764
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,200
they're thinking it is.
It's just a trickster of some

1765
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:29,800
sorts. all right, Jake Okay, so
here we are not.

1766
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:34,400
Not your final thoughts just on
the cosmic restriction or the,

1767
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,300
don't believe in that.
I do believe in precognitive

1768
01:49:37,300 --> 01:49:39,600
intelligence.
I think that that would be more

1769
01:49:39,600 --> 01:49:44,200
of a way to explain like the the
idea of God knows everything.

1770
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:45,700
How do we actually have free
will?

1771
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:50,000
And to that I would say Jeremy.
You like football, say a game

1772
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:53,400
happened, a game happened and
you had to go to work for it.

1773
01:49:53,400 --> 01:49:56,900
So you recorded it on your DVR
or whatever, right?

1774
01:49:57,300 --> 01:49:59,400
And then while you're at work,
the game is finished.

1775
01:49:59,400 --> 01:50:03,200
And someone tells you what the
score is who threw what pass,

1776
01:50:03,500 --> 01:50:05,700
who made a touchdown or
whatever.

1777
01:50:05,900 --> 01:50:10,100
Does that mean that when you go
back to watch that, that show

1778
01:50:10,100 --> 01:50:14,000
that or that was a game that you
recorded because you still want

1779
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:15,800
to watch the game, right?
It's still something that you're

1780
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:17,900
interested in, so you go back
and watch the game.

1781
01:50:17,900 --> 01:50:19,400
But you already know what
everyone's going to do.

1782
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:21,600
Does that mean that those
players when they were playing

1783
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:25,800
that game had no Free Will.
And so, that's kind of when

1784
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,000
people say, well, God knows
everything.

1785
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:31,000
If he has this precognitive
intelligence, he knows what

1786
01:50:31,000 --> 01:50:32,900
we're going to do before we do
it and how could we possibly

1787
01:50:32,900 --> 01:50:35,100
have free will?
But he's outside of time and

1788
01:50:35,100 --> 01:50:36,900
space.
And he just knows because he's

1789
01:50:36,900 --> 01:50:40,000
seeing the end.
That doesn't take away from our

1790
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,200
free will, he just knows what we
were going to do right in that

1791
01:50:43,300 --> 01:50:47,900
analogy, that I gave.
Now whether Angels and Demons,

1792
01:50:47,900 --> 01:50:51,000
also have that precognitive
intelligence, I would say no

1793
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:54,600
because they're created beings,
and there's no record anywhere

1794
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,400
of the book.
That talks about them that says

1795
01:50:56,400 --> 01:51:02,000
that they do, That the only one
that is that way would be the

1796
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:05,700
try head God, you know,
Godfather or father son.

1797
01:51:05,700 --> 01:51:09,200
Holy Spirit, right?
The three attributes of God but

1798
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:16,200
that they were he has that
everyone else does not right

1799
01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:19,000
outside of time and space
because he's not a created being

1800
01:51:19,100 --> 01:51:21,400
all the Angels and Demons will
be.

1801
01:51:21,400 --> 01:51:25,000
And so would we be where the
mythologies could have come

1802
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:26,700
from?
I don't know.

1803
01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,800
I'm sure like you know, these
two said they came from

1804
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:36,100
somewhere, right?
But you know I don't think that,

1805
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:43,600
I think that what Jeff says
quite often is that we aren't We

1806
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:48,100
aren't creative enough to just
wing it and just make up most

1807
01:51:48,100 --> 01:51:50,300
things that it comes from
somewhere within us.

1808
01:51:50,300 --> 01:51:52,500
This understanding of this
knowledge that we have.

1809
01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:56,200
Whether it's passed down or
probably maybe maybe maybe not,

1810
01:51:56,600 --> 01:52:01,000
maybe more focused on like our
cultural upbringings and things

1811
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,500
like that and past belief
systems.

1812
01:52:04,500 --> 01:52:08,300
But I think that it probably
came from somewhere.

1813
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:14,300
Now, whether there's demonic
activity, where they're screwing

1814
01:52:14,300 --> 01:52:18,100
with people.
Sure, why not, you know, if

1815
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:23,600
because I do believe that that's
what's going on here, but as far

1816
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:31,700
as like, Things changing because
like, I'm trying to like get my

1817
01:52:31,700 --> 01:52:35,900
head around the circumstance
here for this of just like, what

1818
01:52:35,900 --> 01:52:38,500
circumstance in this is a
question for you, Jeremy, what

1819
01:52:38,500 --> 01:52:43,000
circumstance, where they would
there be, where there would be a

1820
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:48,900
perception of precognitive
intelligence for this particular

1821
01:52:48,900 --> 01:52:51,700
area?
Like what happened where they

1822
01:52:51,700 --> 01:52:55,000
would point to that and say, oh,
this is because they already

1823
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,300
knew we were going to do.
Is it?

1824
01:52:56,300 --> 01:52:58,100
Because, you know, they were
film.

1825
01:52:58,100 --> 01:53:00,400
They're about to start filming
and then the aliens showed up

1826
01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:02,400
and then the second they started
filming they didn't are they

1827
01:53:02,400 --> 01:53:04,700
went away.
Like, like I don't know what

1828
01:53:04,700 --> 01:53:08,000
the, what's the example, the
best example would be the goals.

1829
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,100
They were on their way to the
bowls, are they left?

1830
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:15,300
The bowls with intentions, of
returning to the Corral where

1831
01:53:15,300 --> 01:53:17,900
the Bulls rat?
And as they returned, the bowls

1832
01:53:17,900 --> 01:53:19,800
were all locked up in the
trailer.

1833
01:53:19,900 --> 01:53:22,100
There's one right there to would
be.

1834
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:29,200
The calf calf is another one.
Three would be I mean shit.

1835
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:33,200
But I would say that that's less
of precognitive intelligence and

1836
01:53:33,200 --> 01:53:36,700
more of observing, right?
If I'm observing that you are a

1837
01:53:36,708 --> 01:53:39,200
cattle rancher, I can probably
make a good.

1838
01:53:39,200 --> 01:53:44,200
Guess that if you whatever
whenever you return maybe it's

1839
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:48,000
a, you know, an hourly basis or
maybe it's like, hey, this is

1840
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:50,200
when the chores are, this is
what I need to feed the cattle.

1841
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,600
This is when I need to move them
from one pasture to another,

1842
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:55,900
whatever it may be, I can pretty
reasonably guess.

1843
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,800
That in the same way, Jeremy you
come home from working.

1844
01:53:58,800 --> 01:54:00,800
Put your car keys somewhere.
Eventually you're going to come

1845
01:54:00,800 --> 01:54:02,000
back to get your car keys,
right?

1846
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,600
So if I did something with your
car keys, like threw them in the

1847
01:54:04,608 --> 01:54:07,700
oven, you're going to come back
and be like, oh my gosh, where

1848
01:54:07,700 --> 01:54:09,700
are my car keys at?
It's not precognitive

1849
01:54:09,700 --> 01:54:11,800
intelligence.
It's just knowing your pattern

1850
01:54:11,800 --> 01:54:13,300
and what you're going to be
doing throughout the day.

1851
01:54:13,300 --> 01:54:17,200
So if they left the bowls, and
then eventually they're going to

1852
01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,400
come back to the bowls and
regardless of, whether they find

1853
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:23,100
the bowls locked in the shed
stacked on top of each other and

1854
01:54:23,100 --> 01:54:26,600
they're alive or dead, and
rotting is Besides the point,

1855
01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,800
the fact is that they have for
Black Angus, steer that are

1856
01:54:29,800 --> 01:54:32,700
stacked one on top of another
stuffed inside of a shed.

1857
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,200
That's a weird circumstance and
itself, regardless of the level

1858
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:39,700
of living or dead that those
steer were than at, right?

1859
01:54:39,700 --> 01:54:41,400
Right.
So I don't think that it has

1860
01:54:41,400 --> 01:54:44,500
anything to do with this notion
of like they knew that we were

1861
01:54:44,508 --> 01:54:47,700
going to do this like because
they had some Supernaturals

1862
01:54:47,700 --> 01:54:49,800
ability ability.
They knew we're going to do this

1863
01:54:49,800 --> 01:54:52,900
because after a week of
observing your patterns, they

1864
01:54:52,900 --> 01:54:55,000
could say this is exactly what
they're going to do.

1865
01:54:55,700 --> 01:54:58,500
Or They put this one out here to
isolate it for some reason,

1866
01:54:58,500 --> 01:55:00,100
they're going to come back to it
eventually.

1867
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:03,500
Now what if that's 45 minutes or
a day from now?

1868
01:55:03,700 --> 01:55:06,200
Yeah right.
So I think you make a good

1869
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:07,100
point.
You know.

1870
01:55:07,100 --> 01:55:09,200
If your cattle rancher there's a
good chance.

1871
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:14,500
You know, you get into a rhythm
jokes on you, I put my keys in

1872
01:55:14,500 --> 01:55:17,800
the oven all the time, then I'll
put them in the microwave,

1873
01:55:17,900 --> 01:55:22,400
really trippy out that threat
intelligence and because metal

1874
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:24,500
and microwaves.
Just don't work but others

1875
01:55:24,500 --> 01:55:29,000
aren't No.
I mean you make a good point.

1876
01:55:29,100 --> 01:55:32,400
You do.
I believe fault.

1877
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,000
This is get into my final
thoughts real quick.

1878
01:55:35,700 --> 01:55:39,700
Okay.
And then and then we'll just

1879
01:55:39,700 --> 01:55:42,900
have a an open conversation
after ones, final thoughts,

1880
01:55:42,900 --> 01:55:45,300
because I know Jeffrey's getting
tired.

1881
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:49,000
All right, I can't even go to
bed anyways because I've still

1882
01:55:49,000 --> 01:55:52,100
have to export and upload this
video so I'll be up till like,

1883
01:55:52,100 --> 01:55:53,500
2:00 in the morning.
Nice.

1884
01:55:53,500 --> 01:55:56,400
Yeah, good.
Do you want you want someone to

1885
01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:58,300
talk to you?
Nope.

1886
01:55:58,300 --> 01:56:05,600
Good call your mom.
There's a rumor that Jeffrey is

1887
01:56:05,700 --> 01:56:09,900
famous with moms anyways.
My final thoughts.

1888
01:56:11,300 --> 01:56:16,200
Hey, get that rumor?
I find the idea of Skinwalker

1889
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:20,100
Ranch to be truly incredible and
fascinating to think that there

1890
01:56:20,100 --> 01:56:22,500
is a place in the world where
the Paranormal and Supernatural

1891
01:56:22,500 --> 01:56:25,200
come to play together in a
smorgasbord for Terror and

1892
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:28,000
trickery blows my mind in more
ways than one.

1893
01:56:28,700 --> 01:56:30,300
This led.
Of course, to me not fully

1894
01:56:30,300 --> 01:56:32,700
understanding what my true
thoughts and feelings on the

1895
01:56:32,700 --> 01:56:36,100
subject actually were.
So, I broke the concept down to

1896
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:39,000
a few questions for myself to
really create an opinion on this

1897
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:42,000
difficult.
Topic, 1 do I think that there

1898
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:44,000
is something going on at
Skinwalker Ranch.

1899
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:47,500
My answer is yes.
I can't believe that out of the

1900
01:56:47,500 --> 01:56:49,700
Decades of reported activity
from the ranch and the

1901
01:56:49,700 --> 01:56:52,700
surrounding area that there
isn't some form of high

1902
01:56:52,700 --> 01:56:56,500
strangeness taking place due to
do.

1903
01:56:56,500 --> 01:56:59,300
I think it's all legit.
No, as I ask myself these

1904
01:56:59,300 --> 01:57:01,800
questions, I found it harder and
harder to answer, but for this

1905
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:05,100
particular one, I would have to
say that not a hundred percent

1906
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:07,300
of what has been reported is
factual.

1907
01:57:07,700 --> 01:57:10,200
Although I do believe in a
portion of what happened nailing

1908
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:12,600
down, exactly, which ones are
real and false was honestly

1909
01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:15,100
probably the most difficult
task.

1910
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:19,900
Remember it is in our nature to
want to have experiences and

1911
01:57:19,900 --> 01:57:22,800
with that the more people that
show up at the ranch expecting

1912
01:57:22,800 --> 01:57:25,800
to have an experience, they
cannot explain increases.

1913
01:57:26,500 --> 01:57:29,700
But expectation is often not
reality, more times than not

1914
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:33,700
someone would walk away from the
hunt with a fabricated story in

1915
01:57:33,700 --> 01:57:36,300
order to fill the void from
their disappointment.

1916
01:57:36,900 --> 01:57:40,900
Unfortunately, this is very
common and three which Theory do

1917
01:57:40,900 --> 01:57:43,900
I believe?
Honestly there are a few that I

1918
01:57:43,900 --> 01:57:48,200
think have a legitimate chance,
the dimensional trickster a thin

1919
01:57:48,200 --> 01:57:51,300
veil between parallel worlds.
Secret military testing from a

1920
01:57:51,308 --> 01:57:54,400
base underground, Native
American curses and a dash of

1921
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:57,700
natural phenomena.
All mixed in with a bid with a

1922
01:57:57,700 --> 01:58:00,900
bit of exaggerated, from the
many layers of media and

1923
01:58:00,900 --> 01:58:04,100
entertainment all mixed together
for a perfect auction that we

1924
01:58:04,100 --> 01:58:07,800
call Skinwalker Ranch.
So, yes, I do believe that there

1925
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,500
is something paranormal
happening here, and I do believe

1926
01:58:10,500 --> 01:58:13,200
it very well.
Could be more than one thing,

1927
01:58:13,400 --> 01:58:17,800
but I also believe that a lot of
it has been exaggerated, but by

1928
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:21,200
no means do, I think this place
is invalid fraudulent or normal,

1929
01:58:21,700 --> 01:58:24,500
Skinwalker Ranch will always
piqued my interest and I fully

1930
01:58:24,500 --> 01:58:28,000
believe that there is or was
something going on here that

1931
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:31,000
screens for further legitimate
investigation.

1932
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:38,100
A lot of big words right there.
Very well, I'll keep mine short

1933
01:58:38,100 --> 01:58:41,400
and sweet because I've already
said it 10 times, but yeah, I

1934
01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:45,400
just think there's probably like
Wes is saying some

1935
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:50,800
interdimensional bleed through
happening here and other places

1936
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:55,700
and there's probably some black
budget operation or has been

1937
01:58:55,700 --> 01:59:00,500
some black budget operation to
investigate this, or observe

1938
01:59:00,500 --> 01:59:04,300
this, or whatever the case.
Is, and I think these people,

1939
01:59:04,700 --> 01:59:07,200
most of them are probably seeing
nothing.

1940
01:59:07,200 --> 01:59:10,400
They're just seeing things
because that's what the Mind

1941
01:59:10,400 --> 01:59:12,800
does.
And for the ones who are

1942
01:59:12,800 --> 01:59:15,800
actually experiencing something,
they're probably just sensitive

1943
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:22,100
to this phenomena or, you know,
maybe maybe they're just in some

1944
01:59:22,100 --> 01:59:25,800
physical shit happening in our
realm in our realm and that's

1945
01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:27,100
it, man.
So I'm with it.

1946
01:59:27,200 --> 01:59:29,600
Definitely something going on.
Let's go camping trip.

1947
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:32,000
I'm down.
Laughs, what do you think?

1948
01:59:32,100 --> 01:59:38,800
Man, like I said, time time
before I'm right in line with

1949
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:43,000
Jeff, I just don't think our
government has any direct

1950
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:47,500
involvement there.
More of just just observing it

1951
01:59:47,500 --> 01:59:49,600
like, we are.
But, you know, with a lot more

1952
01:59:49,608 --> 01:59:52,500
attracted like moths to a flame.
Yeah.

1953
01:59:53,000 --> 01:59:56,000
Yeah.
They just have better or like

1954
01:59:56,000 --> 01:59:58,400
light to flies for all my
Trivium fans out there.

1955
02:00:00,700 --> 02:00:04,900
Great song by the way.
They just have better equipment.

1956
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:09,700
They're better suited to try to
observe what's going on, but I

1957
02:00:09,708 --> 02:00:12,400
don't think they have any real
direct involvement.

1958
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:17,400
Well good.
What do you think's?

1959
02:00:17,400 --> 02:00:19,800
Really Goin hot goin on down
there and Skinwalker Ranch?

1960
02:00:24,200 --> 02:00:27,500
Like you said, I think it's a
little sprinkle of everything,

1961
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:31,900
but the one I'm leaning towards
the most right now is the

1962
02:00:31,900 --> 02:00:39,000
trickster theory that one just
stories of people claiming

1963
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,200
they're seeing a skinwalker and
all of that.

1964
02:00:41,200 --> 02:00:44,400
I just The relation of it is
fun.

1965
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:48,700
It's interesting.
I like the that that whole story

1966
02:00:48,700 --> 02:00:54,600
that you presented there, But it
just makes sense to me.

1967
02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:57,300
That something might be out
there playing tricks on us.

1968
02:00:57,300 --> 02:01:01,600
Because why not for again, that
something could just be our own

1969
02:01:01,600 --> 02:01:06,700
mind's playing tricks on us but
I'm like, I love the lure.

1970
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:13,000
The military's got to have or
the government or whatever has

1971
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:16,000
got to have some sort of
involvement, but are they in

1972
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:17,900
charge of everything?
No, I don't think so

1973
02:01:19,000 --> 02:01:22,000
hallucinations, they can't buy
into at all.

1974
02:01:22,700 --> 02:01:25,400
I don't really think it's
interests.

1975
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:28,800
Really extraterrestrial stuff at
all.

1976
02:01:29,500 --> 02:01:31,000
I really like this trickster
one.

1977
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:32,400
That's the one I'm sticking
with.

1978
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:40,700
Don and Jacob like Old Second
hostage nipples like insects to

1979
02:01:40,700 --> 02:01:46,500
a light source.
All right, so, so okay.

1980
02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:50,300
I said, I said right in the
beginning that I had discovered

1981
02:01:50,300 --> 02:01:56,600
some stuff because of the
documentary is like the

1982
02:01:56,608 --> 02:01:59,400
documentation, the documentary
that kind of tripped me out a

1983
02:01:59,407 --> 02:02:05,600
little bit right in episode 1.
I Heard this whole story of the

1984
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:08,300
wolf and I was like, this is
baloney.

1985
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:14,500
I think I even may have said
that that it was baloney and nay

1986
02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:19,200
now I say nay.
So they're so okay so this is A

1987
02:02:19,208 --> 02:02:21,500
Perfect Graphic so don't freak
out.

1988
02:02:21,500 --> 02:02:28,500
I am an artist found out because
of that documentary that the the

1989
02:02:28,500 --> 02:02:31,900
Sherman's after they had their
wolf encounter, a couple weeks

1990
02:02:31,900 --> 02:02:37,400
later, they They were approached
to give a description of what

1991
02:02:37,400 --> 02:02:42,200
they believe the wolf look like,
as far as I get size and stuff,

1992
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:46,100
they're given a line up of three
different Silhouettes.

1993
02:02:46,400 --> 02:02:50,600
One was a pony, one was a wolf
and one was of a direwolf, and

1994
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:54,500
they said, point to what you
saw, and they pointed directly

1995
02:02:54,500 --> 02:02:56,900
at the direwolf.
Now, this is pretty much based

1996
02:02:56,900 --> 02:02:59,700
off of that lineup, That
graphic, that was displayed on

1997
02:02:59,700 --> 02:03:03,200
the TV, keep in mind, excellent
picture.

1998
02:03:03,500 --> 02:03:05,400
Yeah, but this was about the
size.

1999
02:03:05,500 --> 02:03:08,800
They said Pony, wolf direwolf
direwolves cut off because I ran

2000
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:12,200
out of paper because I didn't,
you know, open it up like, like

2001
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:16,400
this anyway.
So they pointed at this one, the

2002
02:03:16,400 --> 02:03:20,400
size of the pony, you think that
people that deal with large

2003
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:22,300
animals all the time, wouldn't
know?

2004
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:27,300
The size of a regular wolf
versus a Pony versus a direwolf.

2005
02:03:27,300 --> 02:03:29,800
And they didn't tell them, they
didn't say, this is a direwolf,

2006
02:03:29,800 --> 02:03:32,500
they just said, point at the
silhouette and they point out

2007
02:03:32,500 --> 02:03:36,000
that and we've gone into that in
other episodes of this

2008
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:38,600
possibility that direwolves
could still exist.

2009
02:03:38,700 --> 02:03:41,500
And then I looked into the area.
And the area is riddled with

2010
02:03:41,500 --> 02:03:47,300
caves with abandoned gold mines
with Canyons, all kinds of crap,

2011
02:03:47,300 --> 02:03:49,400
right?
All kinds of hiding areas.

2012
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,600
And if we're going to go into
other Cryptids that are in other

2013
02:03:52,600 --> 02:03:58,100
areas, You know whether that's
was it the Tasmanian Tiger I

2014
02:03:58,100 --> 02:04:04,600
believe right now the devil but
the tiger is supposedly extinct

2015
02:04:04,600 --> 02:04:07,800
even though went extinct in like
the 30s and it could still exist

2016
02:04:08,700 --> 02:04:10,000
and it's still seen all the
time.

2017
02:04:11,400 --> 02:04:15,500
Now, I'm not saying that wolf
still exists, but could it have

2018
02:04:15,500 --> 02:04:19,000
existed during this time, right?
Especially if this area is so

2019
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:24,000
unpopulated and the way it went
is said, no, to the humans went

2020
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,600
right for the, the calf, right?
As almost as if this is a

2021
02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:31,100
tunning pattern, is to go after
the weak or smaller animals, not

2022
02:04:31,100 --> 02:04:32,400
the humans.
They're going to give it a bunch

2023
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:37,700
of issues now, did it take?
Six shots with a, you know, 357

2024
02:04:37,700 --> 02:04:41,800
Magnum and then two shots with
the 30.6 and Really nothing

2025
02:04:41,800 --> 02:04:43,300
happened.
I don't know.

2026
02:04:43,500 --> 02:04:47,900
But Maybe with an animal that
size, would it be like if you

2027
02:04:47,900 --> 02:04:49,500
went after a grizzly, bear right
now?

2028
02:04:49,600 --> 02:04:51,700
Because that's pretty much the
size we're talking about.

2029
02:04:51,700 --> 02:04:55,600
If you shot at a grizzly bear
right now or a, you know, a

2030
02:04:55,600 --> 02:04:57,300
small grizzly, bear large, black
bear.

2031
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:02,300
How many shots could you shoot
into the side of it before it

2032
02:05:02,300 --> 02:05:05,800
stops, what it's doing?
You know, I don't know because I

2033
02:05:05,808 --> 02:05:10,100
don't hunt those things a
well-placed shot right in its

2034
02:05:10,100 --> 02:05:11,900
heart.
Probably, you know, effectively

2035
02:05:11,900 --> 02:05:14,800
one, because I my pastor goes
bow hunting.

2036
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:18,500
For Black Bear, right?
But in its shoulder blades or

2037
02:05:18,500 --> 02:05:21,700
just shooting randomly into its
body, right?

2038
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:24,100
Especially how fat these things
have one.

2039
02:05:24,100 --> 02:05:26,300
Right.
But there's a loose, we're

2040
02:05:26,300 --> 02:05:28,600
Bears.
Yeah, so, but I'm sitting here

2041
02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:32,800
thinking about was like, so this
wolf story could be real,

2042
02:05:32,900 --> 02:05:34,900
especially with the black
coloring because we have that

2043
02:05:34,900 --> 02:05:37,100
other video from, like, Montana
or something.

2044
02:05:37,100 --> 02:05:40,600
Where that big old German
Shepherd was going after a real

2045
02:05:40,600 --> 02:05:44,500
soda, Minnesota, it is bigger
than any wolf I've ever seen in

2046
02:05:44,500 --> 02:05:45,600
my entire.
Higher life and wolves.

2047
02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:47,700
Get really big, but this thing
looked like a straight-up

2048
02:05:47,700 --> 02:05:51,100
direwolf, right?
It's in the few and we should,

2049
02:05:51,300 --> 02:05:54,300
you know, make a point to put a
link to that in the description.

2050
02:05:54,300 --> 02:05:57,200
I'll try to you know, remember
that for this episode but it's

2051
02:05:57,200 --> 02:06:02,200
just like it's freaking nuts and
so it just like maybe this thing

2052
02:06:02,400 --> 02:06:03,900
has some truth to it.
Right?

2053
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:09,100
So that tripped me out then you
know going into the Phenomenon

2054
02:06:09,100 --> 02:06:12,900
with the TV show where they're
seeing the heat signatures and

2055
02:06:12,900 --> 02:06:16,400
stuff from you know the Second
home set or whatever.

2056
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:20,900
And you know, they see that
crazy decrease in temperature

2057
02:06:20,900 --> 02:06:23,800
suddenly, and they showed the
screen literally, like, the

2058
02:06:23,800 --> 02:06:28,800
whole thing went like dark black
and purple, and then, everything

2059
02:06:28,800 --> 02:06:31,900
else was right around it,
because it was the focal point

2060
02:06:31,900 --> 02:06:35,600
of that, crazy, you know,
temperature drop, right?

2061
02:06:35,700 --> 02:06:37,200
And it was right where they said
it was.

2062
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:42,000
They had the, they had the
walking around with the 3D

2063
02:06:42,000 --> 02:06:44,400
mapping technology and stuff and
they're walking around inside

2064
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:45,700
the house.
I'm not saying they could have

2065
02:06:45,700 --> 02:06:49,600
turned the thing off to add, you
know, drama to the show but they

2066
02:06:49,600 --> 02:06:52,200
showed that there was this big
black spot where it didn't, you

2067
02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:57,800
know, pick up anything so I I
can't I hesitate to say that

2068
02:06:57,800 --> 02:07:00,100
this is all made up and there's
nothing happening here.

2069
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:03,800
I definitely think there is
something happening here, but at

2070
02:07:03,800 --> 02:07:08,000
the same time I think there's a
lot of nothing, a lot of drama,

2071
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:13,500
that's added especially with the
rise of Technology because even,

2072
02:07:13,600 --> 02:07:17,800
you know, even I think it was
George Knapp said in the

2073
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:21,100
documentary that really nothing
happened in the 70s.

2074
02:07:21,100 --> 02:07:25,500
It was very small as far as like
the sightings that were going

2075
02:07:25,500 --> 02:07:27,200
on.
There were some UFO stuff, there

2076
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:30,700
were some whatever and then the
way more disturbing stuff

2077
02:07:30,700 --> 02:07:35,100
started happening in the 90s and
that was when we saw this boom

2078
02:07:35,100 --> 02:07:38,800
and Technology, you know shortly
afterwards, you know, in the

2079
02:07:38,900 --> 02:07:42,200
2000s, the internet would really
just kick up and all sorts of

2080
02:07:42,200 --> 02:07:44,600
stuff, you know, all the sort of
all these sort of things.

2081
02:07:44,900 --> 02:07:49,400
But we were in that phase, there
was all that stuff coming on up

2082
02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:54,800
online and how convenient is it
that suddenly all these crazy

2083
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:59,700
stories start coming out, you
know, and it's just like so I

2084
02:07:59,700 --> 02:08:02,200
don't think that there is
nothing, but I think it's way

2085
02:08:02,200 --> 02:08:09,000
over play it now and I believe
it would be likely that there is

2086
02:08:09,100 --> 02:08:13,000
black budget type stuff going on
or government type stuff going

2087
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:16,700
on in that area as well.
I hundred percent believe that

2088
02:08:16,700 --> 02:08:21,000
this UFO phenomenon is
completely, you know, just

2089
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:25,500
fabricated, it's fabricated
hysteria to distract from other

2090
02:08:25,500 --> 02:08:28,000
things.
It really seems like you know,

2091
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:31,600
it could be coincidence which I
don't believe in but it seems

2092
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:35,200
like every time there's some
major like hey this is what

2093
02:08:35,200 --> 02:08:37,400
we're talking about, the UFOs
were having some Congressional

2094
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:39,800
hearing or something like that,
to give out more information.

2095
02:08:39,900 --> 02:08:42,400
There's also some other
craziness going on in the world

2096
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:44,700
that would you know the focus is
drawn.

2097
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:48,300
Over here sleight of hand
perfectly timed.

2098
02:08:48,500 --> 02:08:53,000
Or it's, you know, purposefully
timed is probably what I'm

2099
02:08:53,000 --> 02:08:56,000
getting to.
But that there is, you know,

2100
02:08:56,000 --> 02:08:59,900
this distraction that's going on
a major distraction right for

2101
02:08:59,900 --> 02:09:04,400
whatever reason, you know, I
don't know, but but I don't

2102
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:05,900
think that there is nothing
going on.

2103
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:08,400
I think that there's probably a
Cryptid stuff going on.

2104
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:13,500
I think there's probably demonic
stuff going on black budget, Ops

2105
02:09:13,500 --> 02:09:16,600
going on and stuff.
Testing and why not?

2106
02:09:16,600 --> 02:09:19,800
Let's let the media in here and
let them go wild with the the

2107
02:09:19,800 --> 02:09:22,800
craziness and accusations
because honestly we none of us

2108
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:25,100
can point at some black budget
agency.

2109
02:09:25,100 --> 02:09:28,100
We don't even know what they're
called and say those are the

2110
02:09:28,100 --> 02:09:32,100
people responsible who cares if
people think that it is right?

2111
02:09:32,200 --> 02:09:36,700
No one can prove that it is so
let them run wild with it.

2112
02:09:36,700 --> 02:09:41,700
Especially since, you know, this
is during the timeframe of us of

2113
02:09:41,700 --> 02:09:45,300
the government announcing.
Oh, there's aliens and we don't

2114
02:09:45,300 --> 02:09:47,600
know what they want and they
have technology that's far.

2115
02:09:47,600 --> 02:09:50,200
Superior to ours and everyone
just running rampant with it.

2116
02:09:50,200 --> 02:09:51,400
They see flares out in the
ocean.

2117
02:09:51,400 --> 02:09:53,700
They're like these aliens.
You know, everyone's just

2118
02:09:53,700 --> 02:09:55,500
brainwashed.
These days are a lot of people

2119
02:09:55,500 --> 02:09:58,300
are and so yeah, why not just
let them in and then they're

2120
02:09:58,300 --> 02:10:01,000
going to immediately think that
it's the aliens and all kinds of

2121
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:02,700
stuff and we could just keep
doing what we're doing.

2122
02:10:02,700 --> 02:10:05,300
Who cares if people really see
it anymore, right?

2123
02:10:05,400 --> 02:10:08,700
It doesn't need to be at a
military base in the middle of

2124
02:10:08,700 --> 02:10:10,300
nowhere, where no one's a lot
access.

2125
02:10:10,300 --> 02:10:13,000
It could literally be over San
Francisco and everyone's gonna

2126
02:10:13,000 --> 02:10:14,700
be like delians.
Oh gosh.

2127
02:10:14,900 --> 02:10:18,500
The aliens known very rarely are
people going to say that's the

2128
02:10:18,500 --> 02:10:21,100
government or that's black
budget and even so who's going

2129
02:10:21,100 --> 02:10:25,000
to believe him it's like you
know five Schmucks on a podcast,

2130
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:27,000
just talking about it.
No one's going to believe us,

2131
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,800
right?
So maybe Danny but that's about

2132
02:10:29,800 --> 02:10:31,800
it.
I don't know who your conscience

2133
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:36,500
anyways, but that's no.
But that's what I'm that's,

2134
02:10:36,500 --> 02:10:40,300
that's what I think is that
there is craziness, there is

2135
02:10:40,300 --> 02:10:44,800
strangeness, but it's not.
When it comes to like the alien

2136
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:48,400
stuff that's all just because
they can, right?

2137
02:10:48,500 --> 02:10:51,300
I mean who's going to stop him
for one who's going to prove

2138
02:10:51,300 --> 02:10:55,400
that it's them, you know, and
you know especially with the

2139
02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:58,900
narrative going on right now,
most people are going to look at

2140
02:10:58,900 --> 02:11:02,300
the aliens and then attribute.
Most of everything else that's

2141
02:11:02,300 --> 02:11:07,800
going on to the aliens.
I mean the Predator monster vs.

2142
02:11:08,500 --> 02:11:11,500
You know like what you guys were
talking about a cloaking device.

2143
02:11:12,700 --> 02:11:16,400
Oh Yeah.
Alright.

2144
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:25,000
So Wes Wes has like, no, no, you
know, I just want to point out a

2145
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:29,500
post from June 15th on the
infinite Rabbit Hole Facebook

2146
02:11:29,500 --> 02:11:33,600
group by tagger Wyatt, Wyatt,
tagger Wyatt.

2147
02:11:33,600 --> 02:11:37,200
Thank you to every.
I really appreciate this because

2148
02:11:37,300 --> 02:11:39,700
this is the video of the wolf in
Minnesota.

2149
02:11:40,300 --> 02:11:43,300
I just sent it to our group
chat, the infant, right, whole

2150
02:11:43,300 --> 02:11:45,500
group, just so you guys can look
at it if you want to.

2151
02:11:46,300 --> 02:11:48,400
But take a minute, I'll do you
one.

2152
02:11:48,500 --> 02:11:53,300
Other than what Jake said,
instead of posting a link to it,

2153
02:11:53,400 --> 02:11:55,200
we're gonna make you guys go to
the infinite Rabbit Hole

2154
02:11:55,200 --> 02:12:00,700
Facebook page and go to June
15th Taggart wire Wyatt posted

2155
02:12:00,900 --> 02:12:05,400
this video that we've talked
about Jake and I have do Vince's

2156
02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:09,100
video before many of times, it
is an unbelievably awesome video

2157
02:12:10,200 --> 02:12:12,200
thing.
Scares the living shit out of me

2158
02:12:13,300 --> 02:12:17,700
and I don't know who recorded
this, but letting their dog next

2159
02:12:17,700 --> 02:12:20,300
to that.
Nothing is complete idiot.

2160
02:12:21,700 --> 02:12:26,900
It's huge, huge, absolutely
huge, and it's a fucking dark

2161
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:32,400
pitch, black wolf and learning
matches the description of the

2162
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:37,500
wolf from the Skinwalker Ranch.
And I don't even know it because

2163
02:12:37,500 --> 02:12:39,500
of the distance.
If that thing is big enough to

2164
02:12:39,500 --> 02:12:42,300
be considered a direwolf, that's
just a big wolf if they did.

2165
02:12:42,300 --> 02:12:45,800
In fact, see a direwolf then I
mean, literally, we're talking

2166
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:49,100
like face level at the shoulder.
Right.

2167
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:51,900
Acute a six foot tall human
looking.

2168
02:12:51,900 --> 02:12:55,100
At this thing shoulder is maybe
you're looking right at it or

2169
02:12:55,100 --> 02:12:57,300
it's just below that.
So it's maybe like 5 feet tall

2170
02:12:57,300 --> 02:12:58,800
at the shoulder or something
like that.

2171
02:12:58,900 --> 02:13:03,900
It's they're freaking massive
and so maybe this is one maybe

2172
02:13:03,900 --> 02:13:05,400
it's not.
I don't know because of the

2173
02:13:05,400 --> 02:13:07,300
distance and you know you'd have
to go out there and measure the

2174
02:13:07,300 --> 02:13:10,600
trees and see, you know, it was
it standing in Tall Grass, you

2175
02:13:10,608 --> 02:13:13,700
know, whatever it was.
But still if that if they

2176
02:13:13,700 --> 02:13:16,600
actually did see this wolf and
it was that big and they think

2177
02:13:16,600 --> 02:13:20,100
it was a direwolf, that's a
monster.

2178
02:13:20,300 --> 02:13:23,000
And yeah, it might make sense
that they could put a bunch of

2179
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:25,300
rounds into it.
And maybe not affected

2180
02:13:25,300 --> 02:13:27,400
especially if they're just
shooting into its bones or

2181
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:29,100
something, you know, I don't
know.

2182
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:34,100
All right, so that has been our
weight.

2183
02:13:34,100 --> 02:13:36,100
Does anybody else have anything
else out here?

2184
02:13:37,100 --> 02:13:38,700
Good to go.
No.

2185
02:13:39,000 --> 02:13:40,500
All right.
Well, that's been our coverage

2186
02:13:40,500 --> 02:13:43,800
of Skinwalker Ranch.
I know that we've talked for

2187
02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:46,500
probably over six hours, total
with it in these last three

2188
02:13:46,500 --> 02:13:49,400
episodes.
Jeff, would love to murder me

2189
02:13:49,900 --> 02:13:53,600
but he can't because he also
loves me conflicted.

2190
02:13:55,400 --> 02:13:58,600
That is the bulk of Skinwalker
Ranch.

2191
02:13:58,700 --> 02:14:03,100
If you want more stories, I have
more stories.

2192
02:14:03,100 --> 02:14:06,700
I can go into.
I can go into the stories of a A

2193
02:14:07,900 --> 02:14:13,800
security officer that did
security for the ranch for quite

2194
02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:15,900
a while.
I can go into stories of a

2195
02:14:15,900 --> 02:14:20,300
gentleman who snuck onto the
ranch quite often and has come

2196
02:14:20,300 --> 02:14:26,100
out with 10 books on his own
personal experiences with the

2197
02:14:26,100 --> 02:14:29,800
unknown on Skinwalker Ranch.
There's a lot out there, there's

2198
02:14:29,800 --> 02:14:35,400
a lot now, whether or not, it's
all real no idea, but if you

2199
02:14:35,400 --> 02:14:38,600
guys would like to hear More
from the stories of Skinwalker

2200
02:14:38,600 --> 02:14:39,900
Ranch.
Let us know.

2201
02:14:40,300 --> 02:14:44,400
If it rabbit hole at gmail.com,
shoot us an email.

2202
02:14:44,700 --> 02:14:49,100
Hit us up at facebook.com and go
to the infinite Rabbit Hole

2203
02:14:49,200 --> 02:14:53,600
Facebook group Simple as that.
We also have a website and can

2204
02:14:53,600 --> 02:14:57,600
grab whole.com, where we have a
contact us link.

2205
02:14:57,700 --> 02:15:00,400
Just go ahead and fill that out
and go straight to our email.

2206
02:15:00,800 --> 02:15:05,000
We get emails all the time by
the way, if you sent us an email

2207
02:15:05,300 --> 02:15:07,700
and you're wondering why we
haven't replied, check your junk

2208
02:15:07,700 --> 02:15:09,300
mail.
I think that's where it goes.

2209
02:15:11,100 --> 02:15:14,100
I'm fairly certain because we
get we get emails quite a bit

2210
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:17,400
and only one or two will reply
to our reply.

2211
02:15:17,800 --> 02:15:21,100
So check your junk mail.
Pretty sure everyone.

2212
02:15:21,300 --> 02:15:25,800
So we're spam, but we're not,
we're just people or not food,

2213
02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:28,600
right?
So and send it to voicemail.

2214
02:15:29,000 --> 02:15:33,000
Is it as a voicemail Danny.
Send us a voicemail Daddy needs

2215
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:35,100
to see any.
Why is he?

2216
02:15:37,500 --> 02:15:39,300
You feel like Danny, come on
Danny.

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02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:44,000
Come on, Danny Danny, any
voicemail Danny voicemail.

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Jeff.
I'm Danny.

2219
02:15:47,900 --> 02:15:51,700
No, we love Danny with us.
All right, great.

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02:15:51,700 --> 02:15:53,700
That's it.
Thanks for joining us on this

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episode of the infinite Rabbit
Hole podcast.

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02:15:56,100 --> 02:16:02,800
We will see you next branch and
the rabbit infinite whole thing.

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02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:09,300
I ready?
Bye-bye, bye-bye.