Sept. 16, 2022

Skinwalker Ranch Part 2

Skinwalker Ranch Part 2
Skinwalker Ranch Part 2
Infinite Rabbit Hole
Skinwalker Ranch Part 2

In the fall of 1996, the NIDS team set up their electronic devices around the ranch and whatever was behind all of the strangeness of Skinwalker Ranch was now on the opposite side of the game of cat and mouse. On today's episode we dive into the investigation of this historical investigation into the unknown! Welcome back to Infinite Rabbit Hole and The Paranormal Network!

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SOURCES

  • Book: The Skinwalker Ranch by: Conrad Bauer
  • Book: Hunt for the Skinwalker by: Colm A. Kelleher Ph.D & George Knapp

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Greetings everyone, I'm
Declassified Dave, 1/3 of the

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hush-hush society conspiracy our
podcast and you're listening to

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infinite rabbit hole.
Last week on infinite rabbit

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hole.
If I shot this thing six times,

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and it didn't do anything.
And then I shot it with a third

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out, six.
And then it showed some visible

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signs on the second one.
I wouldn't, then go take my

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rifle and my son and go
gallivanting into the brush to

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go chase this thing down, I just
let it go and be like everyone

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get the F inside the house.
It's just incredibly

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fascinating, it's just wild, you
know, it's just a hotspot for

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crazy shit, you know.
Awesome, a future far off in the

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future.
There's like a genetic issue

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where I would be too much
genetic crisper shit, and the

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genome is just messed.
So us in the future, come back

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in time to harvest DNA, and all
kinds, of other things from

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select individuals, of course,
blah, blah, blah.

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But those are the beings that
most people are seeing when

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they're seeing UFOs, if they're
not, like, Lockheed Martin's

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stuff or whatever.
But, you know, like, a lot of

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them are these crypto
terrestrials that are kind of

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stuck here in this part of the
timeline.

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I will say, I like sending a
drone in first would be, what we

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would do, you know?
So it doesn't seem out of the

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realm of possibility that
another technologically advanced

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race.
It doesn't seem far-fetched at,

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that's what they would do.
Also it is us.

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That's what I'm saying, dude.
It's us from the future man.

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I mean I would have been out of
that place when I saw the wolf

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the first time personally, but
that's just me.

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This guy's a lot braver than I
am.

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He's stuck it out much much
longer.

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So It's I already I think you
already know where my mind is

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going to go with this but like
I'm definitely thinking that

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it's not what everybody thinks.
Welcome back to the infinite

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Rabbit Hole.
I'm your host Jeremy.

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Today we're going to dive into
part two of our Saga on

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Skinwalker Ranch.
What is it guys?

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What is Skinwalker Ranch but
your answer don't answer.

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Don't you bologna don't answer
so last time on this last month

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that's just baloney, your
Abalone?

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Yes.
Last time on infinite rabbit

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hole.
We jumped into the history of

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the Sherman's.
And their time on the ranch

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today, we're going to dive into
the need steam under mr.

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Bigelow.
And then, we will be doing a

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part 3 where we go over and
discuss the possible theories

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behind what's actually going on
there.

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And we'll get into our personal
opinions of the place.

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But before that let's go ahead
and bring everybody in since

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everyone.
You just loves talking over each

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other and me kid, you're the
only one that didn't do it.

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So So it's because I'm polite.
I know.

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So Jeff, how are you doing?
I'm great, thanks.

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How are you?
Good man?

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God, I'm sorry kid.
How are you?

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Okay.
I'm I'm fantastic good, thank

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you for asking.
You ready to jump back in the

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Skinwalker Ranch?
I am, I'm stoked.

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So I know that the three
gentlemen, that we have with us

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today.
All Dove deep into the

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Skinwalker Ranch Rabbit Hole in
between these two episodes.

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Did you?
I'm slightly embarrassed because

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I did not.
Oh, shame, not black.

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I came, I did.
However, I really want to watch

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this show and in Canada.
We can't get Hulu without a VPN.

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So I did.
Go VPN hunting.

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So I tried criminal.
Well, there's about four more

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days until part 3 gets recorded.
So you have no time at all.

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Never.
So there's never any time will

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bring the other guy in since we
already did who I also did not

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watch anything on the Skinwalker
Ranch, Jeff.

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We're bringing you back in.
How does I know?

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I know you didn't and he did
nothing.

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Nothing.
Well, that's a little.

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Am I wrong?
No wrong.

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No, you're wrong Emily.
You're half-right have Ryan did

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not watch anything about
Skinwalker Ranch but I also did

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not do nothing.
Did not yet did not do nothing.

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So, I'm not wrong.
Yeah, right either.

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Yeah, you didn't know y'all are
wild.

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Hey anyways, Wes couldn't we
until today?

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He had to go and buy the book
that we basically did.

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Most are I did most of my
research off of not the only

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book that I did, but he went
ahead and listen to the entire

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thing.
So, Wes, how the hell you doing

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today and thanks for jumping to
the end.

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Jump into the end.
Yeah, we mean jump at the end,

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you know, all the secrets of
Skinwalker Ranch?

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Now, I already knew most of it.
I just was brushing up on it and

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I hasn't I hadn't read that
book.

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So I had a long drive, the drive
to my sister's wedding.

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So I bought the audible version
of it and I listened to it on

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the drive out there.
It's got to be a horrible Auto,

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audiobook.
Wait a minute.

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No, it's a guy named you shamed
Ken's are for not and now you're

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shaming Wes for Well, no, I'm
Shannon.

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Yeah, we're going too far.
Okay, he didn't go into the

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whole thing.
He jumped to the the last page

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of the podcast and he's ruining
it for himself.

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Now he's going to sit there.
Oh my God, it's you know, Jeremy

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is deflecting Jeremy's
deflecting because he's a giant

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scumbag.
So I mean, that's why right back

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to affect what your say, it was
actually a great body.

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A book like the person who read
it or whatever, you know,

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audible like it was actually
really good.

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I thought really, yeah, great
delivery really sucked me in.

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And when I was out in the middle
of nowhere and for West

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Virginia, it was like there's I
forget what part they're talking

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about.
I don't want to spoil it but

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there was like it was like
really creepy kind of give me

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like hairs on the back of my
neck standing up kind of feeling

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you know and like literally I'm
Like when I say I'm in the

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middle of nowhere and West
Virginia like there's I haven't

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seen any other cars.
I haven't seen any lights on

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side of the highway or anything,
no buildings, the no type of

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civilization for like a couple
miles or probably 5 10 minutes

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and then, I'm around this
corner.

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It's like midnight.
And there's like, just a dude

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standing on the side of the
highway, like, just my head

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lights, illuminate them, and I'm
just like, yeah.

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In case you don't know that,
that was another goal.

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But anyways, as Wes is anyways,
a drink.

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Let's go ahead and bring in the
guy who dove into the TV show

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because that my bestie.
Oh.

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Yes, Jacob.
Well just for the occasion, I'm

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wearing the probe and time
T-shirt.

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As I totally believe, this is a
government thing but that does

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not exclude the possibility for
some good old-fashioned probe in

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so definitely definitely that
lengthens the fact.

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Yeah oh yeah just just to you
know really seal the deal you

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gotta get probed but yeah I
don't know I don't know what to

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believe anymore because I've
seen some really convincing like

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documentary type TV shows that
are strictly

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entertainment-based.
They're all a bunch of nonsense

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but I don't know.
It's like because I want to get

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really big and into this TV show
and everything that's going on

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but it's really hard for me to
buy everything that's going on

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and that nothing is scripted.
And nothing is you know CGI and

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all this sort of stuff because
I've seen all of that Other

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things like we were talking
about.

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I'm just going to say it Todd
Standing and his TV show his

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Finding Bigfoot TV show,
whatever.

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We're he's filming these Muppet
creatures, right?

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And you just like these are big
feet and it's just like, no.

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It's like ending Todd Standing.
Wasn't.

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I don't think it was on finding
Bigfoot, I don't know.

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I don't really watch.
It will burst was some kind of

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Finding Bigfoot shows what I'm
saying.

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Yeah, it was a documentary.
He does a documentary where he

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has like a drone Going home and
he's running through the stream

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in a Ghillie suit.
And he looks like a like a cat

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dumbass.
Yeah, so you horrible anyways,

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we'll talk about Todd Standing
in the day because that's a

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whole other episode.
Well, now, but that's just, I

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just mean like that style of
documentary where he's claiming

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that this is like a real thing
real phenomenon that he's he's

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found in there's pictures side
by side.

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One of the one of the What is
it?

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One of the Bigfoot pictures and
then I think it's a picture of

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him right next to it.
You know, to, to pictures fate

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head-on, and you can totally see
the outline of his face and his

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facial features perfectly
encapsulated inside this

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Bigfoot.
So it's like, obviously this guy

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Josh was just dressed up and in,
you know, latex costume makeup

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and all this sort of crap and
it's just like, right so, but I

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see the exact same pattern of
documentary journalism.

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Whatever emulated in this and I
agree.

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There's other parts where it's
like did they just Hack That

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llama up or that emu and just
there like you see it I did one

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with the it's not an illness you
know but now packing their you

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know you know this bird or
whatever but now they do they

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hack it up or did you know,
something actually attack it,

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right?
So it's just like, okay, there's

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some things that I could buy but
other stuff I'm just like, I

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don't know, it's but yeah I'm
enjoying the show, I think it's

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pretty interesting but I don't
What to think about the actual

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episode?
And I actually got some dirt, I

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got some dirt, just from just
from editing the last episode,

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good, because it on your upper
lip, I don't know dude, good

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looking at him, look at him,
look at him.

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It's beautiful.
It's beautiful Jake.

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Don't listen to him.
Yeah, I gotta give him a little

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little What let them know Hair
Club over there and play with

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themselves?
I don't know where I hear common

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are right here on my face.
It just migrated down.

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Yeah, anyways, it is.
It's a, it's a, it's one of

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those, it's one of those shows
where it's like, what do you

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believe?
Right now, it's not in life into

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this.
It's not like other

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documentaries of this kind of
stuff.

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Where you walk in thinking that,
you know, this is just going to

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be BS.
Of course, you start the show

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secrets of Skinwalker Ranch and
you think this is all going to

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BBS, but then you see the signs
that they put behind it and

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techniques of the do you like
em?

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Okay.
Maybe then they actually get

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some of the evidence on film
you're like, man, I don't know.

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Possibly did a dickau.
Literally just die underneath a

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UFO.
Right.

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Is that something that actually
happened?

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It's strongly Charming.
Show, makes you want to believe,

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but at the same time, you're
looking at it, you're like,

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there's got to be some kind of
entertainment factor to this,

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right?
And undoubtedly, they're using

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real scientists and the real
Attorney General of Utah was

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there, right?
There's real people.

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But that doesn't mean that
they've never utilized a

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political figure or a scientist
for a TV show or a movie, like

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they've never Use Barack Obama
for any of the movies that came

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out while he was the President
right brother.

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Like we need you to fake a press
conference and say this thing so

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we can put it in the beginning
you know introduction to this

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movie or whatever because
there's a lot of that, right?

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And so I'm fun.
I'm sure that Jeff would come

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out and say that that's never
happened.

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I don't answer questions.
I can neither confirm nor deny.

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But not very well.
All right, boys, let's move on

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to knit all the way we do that.
Can I clarify something from the

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last?
The last episode, 20 bucks.

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And then I want to clarify to
Jeff, always wants money notes.

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Oh my God, look at that
notebook.

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All right.
Yeah, you know what?

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Will let's start it this way.
Go ahead, Western Jake.

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Go, sorry, I told you
beforehand.

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I want to do this but yeah so
and don't count had the whole

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head the whole spiel about
trying that like why didn't this

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guy was?
It was Terry.

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Sherman, write his name.
Yep, Terre Eastern, why didn't

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he try to take a picture or get
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And I was like because he was
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did he tried multiple occasions
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whatever you want to call it
these this phenomenon happening

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on the ranch CH like it somehow
knew whenever he was trying to

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like, yo film it or take
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going to get going to get into
that seems to be a reoccurring

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theme that likes to play hard to
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And I would have taken that
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wasn't interested in that sort
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Because I was, I was going,
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interested.
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literate to technology.
I didn't say that.

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I ranchers and whatnot, your
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He was a dumb farmer.
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Oh my God, you're not dead.
You said they were rioting from

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people.
They don't want, they don't want

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anything to do with technology
plus there to say did what your

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it out.
Even if they did, the whole

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reason they moved out here,
Skinwalker Ranch was because

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they did want to get away from
people and Jerry should be able

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to back me up on this.
I was like the whole reason they

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moved out there.
I come up.

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That's, that's why.
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Oklahoma any case Arizona, I
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hour.
Definitely the last episode I'm

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sitting here and I'm recording
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last episode just a couple hours
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I said in the last episode
Jeremy said that Terry Sherman

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believed that there was a black
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being done on in the basin.
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or dog, or whatever it was, and
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that was, hovering and stuff.
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that.
I was like, what?

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He said that he had this wild
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this black budget craft being
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maybe gene-editing to explain
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And I was like, that is quite
the theory from somebody that

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I'm being convinced right now.
Would have no reason to carry a

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camera on him ever.
Like it was just like what a

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wild Theory from a simple,
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it was.
It's like so that's the guy that

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you're going to try to tell me
just oh, he's so busy working

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all the time carrying around a
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ridiculous for this person I'll
just like because I found out

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about that stuff.
I don't know a year ago like who

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knew about that sort of stuff
Gene editing in the Is, if they

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weren't really deep into that
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just like, so it's but I want to
say again, thank you have to be

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deep into it, the know about it.
I mean, in the 90s, I mean, your

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old internet, I like in the 90s
I mean, there's other things

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besides right internet.
There's movies and TV shows.

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I mean, you know which ones that
were any to Gene editing and

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black budget going to make me go
to this.

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But it was just like it was One
of those things where but on the

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other side of it you know we
know from different episodes

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that generally speaking, it's
okay like injured cold for

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example, right?
Or not in your cold, but maybe

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Kecksburg Kecksburg UFO or
something like that.

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But that people try to go around
these mysterious crafts and then

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they're their technology or
whatever just starts, just

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flubbing it just, you know, they
can't get a good picture.

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They turn out why it's right
because they like, radiate, the

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film, all that sort of stuff,
Randall.

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There you go but they're only
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I have to that one.
Is that I'm watchin this TV show

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and the yeah some of their stuff
is messed up but they're filming

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the entire time and you're going
to tell me that, you know, this

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basic technology of whining to
the next slide and then clicking

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it to it.
You know, expose the camera

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light.
That's the thing that's messing

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up, not all of this camera
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So looks like this is you know,
that's a good point.

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M and all kinds of writings,
they were reading the Wacom and

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right matters are draining.
Yeah, the TV cameras were going

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just fine and this is something
to think about, right.

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That's a good point.
That's right.

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I don't know.
Yeah.

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What is your name?
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But at the same time, you know
that is a pattern that we see

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often to West's point is that
people try to take videos and

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pictures of these sorts of
phenomenon and things tend to

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Now, whether that's a government
thing and they're trying to

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just, you know, wipe all the
evidence and stuff.

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They, we just want to expose
ourselves to people don't allow

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people, take pictures, whatever,
you know.

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I don't know, or it's an alien
thing, right?

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But that seems to be a pattern
that's very consistent across

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the board.
So if that's the reasoning then,

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I mean, I have nothing else to
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not some weird outlier, right?
Right.

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So Jeff do you know any patents
out there for?

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Agha teed micro EMP bursts that
they could use or Something

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where they're like, I'm gonna
stop that Mouse but the computer

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will work but not the mouse, not
off the top of my head, but I

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guarantee you there probably is.
I mean, if you're thinking of it

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there's probably a patent for
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Let's just be real, right?
You know what I mean?

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Targeted.
Jamming systems.

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Something ain't right.
A logical jamming.

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I mean, we've had signal jammer
did biological for a long time.

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Yeah, but signal Jammers are
not.

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You're not so condensed you
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They're they're sharing range
isn't so not as be focused on

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one thing, right?
That's what you say right.

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Kind of I mean right I mean I
think it's possible that that I

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think that it's possible for
that to be a thing.

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I mean I don't know.
We can focus any any other kind

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of signal?
Why wouldn't we be able to focus

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something like that?
I don't know.

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I don't know.
I just feel like that, that

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lends to the yo, what they were
saying, you know, this whole

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during this whole ordeal that it
felt like it was a intelligent,

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you know, thing, whatever it
was, that was out there, you

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know, it's aware of him and his
family and aware of what they're

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trying to do.
And what not?

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But yeah.
I swear, I've seen something

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like that in a movie before
that.

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Hold jamming.
Yes Spaceballs.

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Yeah, it just sounds so much
like a movie.

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It looks like, alright, guys, we
are, we are aiming at a for our

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episode right now.
So rash, Jeff's bedtime sake.

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Let's move on and get started
with the episode that time.

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It's Friday, it's Friday.
Jeff's trying to get signal.

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I was taking a big enough.
I just had and, you know, the

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little promoting.
I just want to add one little

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thing I saw.
I watch that movie note the

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other night and it's heavily
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Oh absolutely.
And and it was it was a great

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movie.
I thoroughly enjoyed it because

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we know, hi everyone.
So let's put this out there,

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right?
So this requires no research.

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Jen's at four hours to cover.

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We have 13 pages.
So The Mughal and the Rancher.

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Robert Bigelow was a billionaire
from Las Vegas.

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Nevada who made his fortune as
the owner of the Budget Suites

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Hotel chain before.
Growing his Empire with the

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establishment of Bigelow
Aerospace a company aiming at

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the future Fortune to be made
with space tourism and Leisure

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mr.
Bigelow's interest didn't end at

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these two Endeavors a year
before the Sherman rash stories.

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Hit the news, Bigelow had
founded knids.

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The National Institute For the
discovery of research science.

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I fucked that up the national in
every every search cow wasn't

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gonna say nothing, I was gonna
let you roll with it.

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Totally fucked it up the
National Institute for Discovery

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Science which focused on many
parapsychological,

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parapsychological and paranormal
topics such as the continuation

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of Consciousness after death
UFOs and many others, as a major

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win for this needs team, mr.
Bigelow purchased the Sherman

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Ranch in September of 1996.
And one of his first editions,

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he made to the needs team was,
was hiring Terry Sherman himself

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as a farmhand in researcher of
the ranch that he loved so much.

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Terry Sherman was extremely
happy to be given the

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opportunity to not let the ranch
get the last laugh and was

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assigned to investigate a string
of cattle mutilations on the

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ranch.
It was now Ranch Hand, Terry

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Sherman's, belief that whatever
was to blame for all the strange

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phenomenon Skinwalker Ranch
Skipping that because whatever I

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wrote here doesn't make sense.
He stated his belief student ID

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Steam on multiple occasions and
recommended that, if the team

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wanted to get the best results
that more primitive techniques

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would be the best way to see the
phenomenon.

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This is a little nod to the
conversation that we had

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earlier.
In this episode, his

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recommendations included, the
building of more observation

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decks spread out throughout the
ranch and closed-circuit

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landlines built-in for
communication purposes.

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Terry claim that wherever Was
that whatever was behind all the

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action.
Here is seem to not like modern

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technology and that when Terry
attempted to introduce cameras

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and other recording equipment to
his Arsenal, the phenomenon

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seemed to slow down.
Of course, the needs team did

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not listen to these
recommendations and soon added

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CCTV cameras with 24 hour, live
recording capabilities to every

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nook and cranny of the ranch.
And as Terry predicted, the

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phenomenon went dormant for many
months now.

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He said well that's because
there was nothing there.

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No that before the introduction
of all this technology, many

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members of the needs team
claimed to have had various

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experiences with the unknown on
the Ridge and in the early days

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of the investigation, almost a
year later, this string of bad

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luck.
Finally ended.

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Terry Sherman was on, watch when
three of the cameras went

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offline, Terry was surprised to
find out that the three cameras

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in question had all the cables
and wires ripped from the back

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of them.
The cameras were all placed on

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15 foot, wooden poles, and would
be nearly impossible for any

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known creature to do such feet
but the strangeness really takes

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off when one of the surviving
cameras on the property

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successfully records, all three
red recording lights from the

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damaged cameras, going out
simultaneously at 8:30 that

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morning.
So now we have three cameras

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that were placed 15 feet on top
of a wooden pole.

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All going out at exactly the
same time.

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All three had suffered the same
damage which was caused by the

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wires and cables being pulled
out, not nod, not sliced, or

441
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,600
properly removed.
No, they were pulled out one

442
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,300
cable, even had the connector
still attached to it, but the

443
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:24,400
camera's not, but the cameras
only were able to show the

444
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,200
recording lights going out.
So whatever did this wasn't able

445
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:36,000
to be About camera.
Wes has something to say, go

446
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,200
ahead with.
Sorry, I thought it was at 8:30

447
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,200
at night.
I remember them specifically

448
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,000
saying that there was just
enough light out still at that

449
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,200
time.
The bill to see if anyone had

450
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,300
approached that camera.
It was one of them was it

451
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:52,800
filmed?
This is why I gave you shit for

452
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,100
reading a book.
What an asshole?

453
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:58,900
No, ok.
So I'm not exactly sure what a

454
00:27:58,908 --> 00:28:02,300
hunt for Skinwalker book said,
but I do have multiple sources

455
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:05,400
as I have a center.
It was that evening time.

456
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,400
So I have three other books and
a couple documentaries that said

457
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,000
morning.
So I went with the morning just

458
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,100
because more sources said
morning, if skin if hunt for the

459
00:28:18,108 --> 00:28:19,800
skinwalker said night, I know
that's more.

460
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Probably reputable Source, but I
went with the one that was more

461
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:30,700
common.
So there were cameras there at

462
00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:35,600
all that what you want when one
got there once?

463
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:43,000
But yes, stuff, as I dove into
the mid steam it became apparent

464
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,200
that yes, Terry Sherman did
attempt to have cameras on the

465
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,300
property during his stay at
points.

466
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,600
There were no specific stories
about him and cameras that I

467
00:28:54,608 --> 00:28:57,800
came across.
But When we started diving into

468
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,300
the needs team in retrograde, we
find out that.

469
00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:07,100
Yes, he did attempt to have
cameras And in the book, they

470
00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:10,100
actually don't go into that
until like towards the end, like

471
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:12,400
they talked about all his
encounters and stuff, all the

472
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,000
things that he experienced with
his, you know, and by himself

473
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,900
with his kids and with his wife
whatnot and they don't really

474
00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:22,500
mention it like at all.
And then towards the end,

475
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:26,400
they're like, oh, by the way,
basically he had tried on

476
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,400
multiple occasions like or that
I think they that were in that

477
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,100
uses many occasions that he
tried, you know, different

478
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,700
things to try to you.
That's their attention.

479
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:42,100
He even at one point had like
crawled, you know, through the

480
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:46,200
field on the ground, like laying
prone, like slowly like taking

481
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,400
an hour or so, to get to a
vantage point, you know, where

482
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,900
certain for towels caption, you
can tell them all.

483
00:29:53,300 --> 00:29:57,300
Yeah, it's almost.
This is what exactly has

484
00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:58,900
happened before.
It's got there.

485
00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:01,200
What you talking about?
All this is doing right now.

486
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,400
Is keeping Wes and I from going
at it again just arguing.

487
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,900
Nothing because clearly we would
be arguing about something.

488
00:30:08,900 --> 00:30:13,200
That was something that took
place, it would just be a wasted

489
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600
conversation.
So now we can argue about things

490
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,800
that we don't know about like
what was his hair color, you

491
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,600
know.
Yeah.

492
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Or electric vehicles and
warranties.

493
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,600
Yes.
Yes.

494
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:35,400
Anyways, what I told you that I
am making a clarification.

495
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:39,900
Like I found information that
yeah, goes with what you're

496
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:44,400
saying and I admit it that's
what he that he is tried.

497
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:48,800
And I'm not opposed to changing
my opinion or what I thought

498
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,100
happened, if I come across
something, tell me.

499
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,300
Oh this is what happened?
Okay, yeah, same, that's no

500
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:57,900
problem for me.
All right, anyway, so what does

501
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,100
oh, go ahead.
Sorry You know, Jeremy

502
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:06,600
interrupted me when I was
saying, but he, you know, during

503
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,900
the times that he tried to get
video evidence or pictures or

504
00:31:09,900 --> 00:31:13,200
whatever, you know, this was
before, and it's even got there.

505
00:31:13,500 --> 00:31:16,300
So I'm not trying to like spoil
nothing.

506
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:19,500
I because I thought we were
discussing what the needs team,

507
00:31:19,900 --> 00:31:24,200
you know, during their time
there pacifically, but you know,

508
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,800
he literally tried everything.
He could think of, at least two

509
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:36,400
like, Pull one over on the
phenomenon, you know like he

510
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,400
said in the book they were like
if he if he like you know crunch

511
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,800
to leave for some he literally
lay there still not moving for

512
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,200
like an hour, just to make sure
that you know, whatever is out

513
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,900
there wasn't on to him, trying
to sneak up on it.

514
00:31:50,900 --> 00:31:54,900
But but, you know, like he, he
went to Great Lengths to try to

515
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:58,200
catch this stuff but, you know,
it still wasn't enough.

516
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,600
It seems like, Like I understand
the caution, right?

517
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,200
But at the same time, They
couldn't have been that

518
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,500
sensitive.
I mean, it was being happy, it

519
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:13,500
was happening on a cattle farm.
So you're hearing, you know,

520
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:19,200
animal noises animals.
I don't, I don't know what cows

521
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,600
sleep schedules are right, but I
don't think it just it.

522
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,800
I understand that there would be
like, this like sense of like,

523
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,700
like, I really want to figure
this out, you know, and I'm

524
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,400
being really cautious and like
that Army crawling across the

525
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000
ground and stuff, but crunching
on a leaf, and then sitting

526
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,500
there and laying prone and
waiting.

527
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:42,200
It's just like, I mean, I think
I was cows in the background

528
00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:55,400
but also at the same time.
No one's ever experienced

529
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,300
anything like this, you know,
like this is that's why this

530
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:02,000
place is considered one of the
UFO.

531
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,300
Hot spots in the hottest hot
spots in the world, you know.

532
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,700
But, you know, he does it.
He had no idea what he was

533
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,000
dealing with, you know, he just
he just want to try to prove the

534
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,500
people I guess to like this is
what's happening.

535
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:21,300
This is actually happening and I
wanted to stop.

536
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:23,600
That was his biggest thing.
He's like, I don't care what it

537
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,400
is.
I just I want to stop but

538
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:32,400
anyways back to you here's the
question I have in regards to

539
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:38,100
this these wires being ripped
out of the cameras we're talking

540
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:41,500
about like the wires being
pulled out of the connectors.

541
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,800
Yeah, so okay, so we're there
any was there any droop in The

542
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,200
Wire so that may be an animal,
like a really big heavy animal,

543
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,400
could have stolen cross it.
And here's, here's how You know,

544
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,800
either.
How does that work out?

545
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,200
Listen, they're one of the
cameras, caught, all three of

546
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,100
the red recording lights, going
out at the exact same time,

547
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:07,400
right?
So whatever happened, whatever

548
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,199
happened.
I mean, one of them, if one of

549
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,100
them happens.
Yeah, and you get like, a really

550
00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,900
fat squirrel that hops on some
wires and it's like, oh shit.

551
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:17,800
This fed a squirrel.
Pulled out the wires, it's not

552
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,800
going to happen.
All three at the same time I'm

553
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,100
sitting, I'm so dumb.
I'm sitting here thinking about

554
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:29,699
like, As with all their members
for sitting in a row, maybe if

555
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:31,300
there were like all on a pole,
right?

556
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:33,600
And they're all good reactions,
but they're all mounted on this

557
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,500
Pole, right?
And then they were separate

558
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:40,699
together, right?
Are you are you going to bring

559
00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:46,100
up the tape?
No, no, I thought of that as

560
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:49,100
sort of a small detail and I
just kind of left it out.

561
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:50,800
Remember we learned by small
details Jeremy.

562
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:52,900
Yeah.
I mean I think it's pertinent

563
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:57,800
because it went to show they at
least in Hunt for a skinwalker.

564
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,700
They, what's thing calm.
I already forgot.

565
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:06,600
Phone calendar.
Yeah, he talked about, he

566
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,600
specifically mentioned a tape
saying that the wires going into

567
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,400
the camera from the pole.
Whatever was They wrapped with

568
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,600
tape that was a total pain to
get on and it would have been a

569
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:20,300
total pain to get off and like
it would have been quick and

570
00:35:20,308 --> 00:35:23,700
easy by any means.
But here's here's the thing, the

571
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:27,600
reason why I left that off is
because you know I mean Wes you

572
00:35:27,607 --> 00:35:30,400
probably know a little bit but
Jake and I are weilert.

573
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,800
We worked him avionics and me
electrical wiring.

574
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,200
And aircraft tape is used for a
couple different things,

575
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,100
insulation for the Covering
shakes reduction.

576
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:48,700
That's the big one, right?
The the reducing of chafing?

577
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Yeah.
You know, it's not really like

578
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,600
why why would you use it?
There's so many other techniques

579
00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,100
that would have been used
better, you know, because you're

580
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:04,700
dealing with something that's
outside its external and you

581
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:07,300
have elements.
So why would why would tape be

582
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:13,100
used on an electrical component
outside you would use It is

583
00:36:13,100 --> 00:36:18,400
something it's better than as
well but the estimate conduit is

584
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,900
what you would use.
If you're trying to protect

585
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:22,500
something which they use, they
use PVC is what they said.

586
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,000
Right?
But but the thing is, is if

587
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,300
they're trying to like they said
that, they taped it with really

588
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:34,300
good tape to a pole, right?
But first rainstorm, this shit's

589
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:35,600
gone dude.
It doesn't matter what kind of

590
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,200
tape use.
I mean, unless you're using it

591
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,800
will therefore, there's there
for months though and never had

592
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,700
an issue.
Oh, does it does like that?

593
00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:48,600
I use PVC as conduit, you know,
and the cables inside the PVC

594
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,800
were also wrapped.
And another detail was that the

595
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,800
PVC was like when they went to
inspect the cameras.

596
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,300
It was just like broken and
hanging off as if something

597
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,300
possibly a hit but how is it?
Something on all three, get hit

598
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:05,900
and broken at same time.
You know, I just I've looked at

599
00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:09,600
it from a electricians point of
view in and I just said, this is

600
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,900
bogus, I just did.
I mean to It doesn't sound

601
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:16,100
bogus.
I've had plenty of experience

602
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,300
with all that as well.
You know, I said, 50/50 with

603
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:23,600
this because I know, I know, a
couple electricians who go out

604
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,500
of their way to do really nice
tape, jobs on certain things,

605
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:31,300
just because it inside or
outside Kinser, depends on the

606
00:37:31,308 --> 00:37:34,700
job.
If you, if, if I have to tell

607
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:37,100
like fishing, if I pay an
electrician and they tape

608
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:39,600
something outside, I'm fired,
that's dumb.

609
00:37:39,700 --> 00:37:42,600
That's gonna need to be use it.
You should be using On do it

610
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,500
outside because I just makes
sense, but I'll do it or Shrink.

611
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,800
You have to use one.
You can use shrink I think

612
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,000
we're.
We're missing the whole point.

613
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,300
Why I brought it?
That's so.

614
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:55,200
Okay.
Is the fact that all three

615
00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,500
cameras had it and also had the
PVC conduit around it and the

616
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:03,500
tape was completely gone and
Connor was broken on all three.

617
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:07,000
So, it's one thing to say, one
camera it was broken ripped out.

618
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,400
Okay.
Maybe a big-ass bird or out just

619
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,600
like rammed it mid-flight.
I don't know, tore it out.

620
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,700
Okay.
One thing but three cameras at

621
00:38:15,707 --> 00:38:18,800
the same time, that's a whole
nother thing, you know.

622
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,200
Okay.
So I want to just quickly go

623
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,900
over something so sorry.
Jake, just I wanna make sure

624
00:38:25,900 --> 00:38:30,800
something here but I'm not said
that he there was a few months

625
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,900
of nothing before this all
happened, right?

626
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:40,000
Yeah, so who's to say, somebody
on this needs team said, I'm

627
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,000
bored.
Let's let's rig something up.

628
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:44,500
And just because the knids team
was in Las Vegas.

629
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,100
That's where there are K.
Well, how was was a warning

630
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:49,600
there?
Say somebody else wasn't and it

631
00:38:49,607 --> 00:38:52,300
could have been a terrible day
and said I'm exactly.

632
00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:57,300
Terry said I'm bored and I want
something right, was, right and

633
00:38:57,900 --> 00:38:59,500
Jake go.
Okay?

634
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,600
These, I don't know why you
would tape up a perfectly good.

635
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,000
Can you put your hand down
unless they were really bad?

636
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,700
Cables.
That were really well used.

637
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:17,500
And And the shielding, whatever
the shielding was probably

638
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:21,900
rubber was broken so they taped
it up with duct tape, really

639
00:39:21,900 --> 00:39:24,700
good strong tape to withstand
the elements.

640
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:30,800
So you know I mean months of it
sitting in the weather whether

641
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,600
that's the Sun or rain or
whatever, just the environment

642
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:39,100
in general, and then maybe it's
not as sticky and then something

643
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,400
now there's three of them so
that's different right?

644
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,600
That's that's That's the
outlier, but here's the

645
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,600
connector.
And here's the cable coming out

646
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,100
of the connector like this, but
it's broken somewhere around

647
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:51,400
here.
So they tape it.

648
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:54,400
And then this tape is suddenly
not sticky and stuff and then

649
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,200
something pulls it.
And then the only thing that

650
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,600
that's pulling on is no longer
the shielding, right?

651
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,300
The thick rubber that that
covers up wires for a cable.

652
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:09,000
It's just the wires going into
the connector, which are not

653
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000
very strong.
The pens alone.

654
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,500
Don't provide that much strength
to keep the wires in there.

655
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:17,600
That's why the everything is
coated in rubber, but something

656
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,500
pulls it.
And then the wires, just rip out

657
00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:22,400
of the connector and the
connector still there, we just

658
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,600
did a poor tape job versus just
covering it with more heat

659
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,300
shrink.
And then a lot of Av connectors

660
00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:32,400
are those quarter turns you, put
them in, you twist them and they

661
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,800
got the two little yeah, ends
with the grooves and you just

662
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,500
turn and twist.
That's not good.

663
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:39,500
That's not going to be easily
disconnected.

664
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:43,000
Some of those are pretty tough.
But I'm gonna be honest with

665
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,700
you, I think we completely
wasted about five minutes of

666
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:48,500
this episode talking about
taping over, 20 minutes, easy?

667
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:51,000
Yeah.
Well, I think it's amazing

668
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,600
because you guys are focusing
on, on the tape in the, for the

669
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,100
wrong reasons.
But anyways, they taped it

670
00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:59,700
because I requested Genki
electrician.

671
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:02,100
It doesn't, it doesn't matter
what I think is an electrician

672
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,100
the matter why they taste it.
Just the fact that they said

673
00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:09,000
that they did and that it would
have been a pain basket off.

674
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,200
You know what that was inside
the conduit and all three

675
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,000
cameras.
It was gone.

676
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:14,200
It's one thing.
If it's shitty tape.

677
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,200
Tape job.
Whatever.

678
00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:17,500
Sure, one of them, it can come
off.

679
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:19,000
Absolutely.
Anyway.

680
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,500
That's three.
That's Jake why I brought it up.

681
00:41:22,700 --> 00:41:25,300
Jake made a good point.
They are not electricians.

682
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:27,000
Their scientists.
So did they use tape?

683
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,900
Yeah probably but maybe you see
they got Jeff to save Jeff

684
00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:34,600
because he's bored and hasn't
said a word in 20 minutes.

685
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:36,900
We have to move on.
Where is your background?

686
00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:40,900
Where's all your your stuff?
What are you talking about?

687
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:43,400
Your stuff, your Sphinx?
And all that crap behind you.

688
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,600
Oh I put it all in the bathroom,
my bathroom is like an Egyptian

689
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Spa now.
So all the Egyptian stuff in

690
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,200
there you know I hear that
ladies.

691
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,700
Yeah, come over ladies.
Look at the Egyptian Spa come

692
00:41:56,700 --> 00:42:00,100
over and you can have rocks
staring at you while you don't

693
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:03,800
undress.
And this walk-in shower with the

694
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,900
removable, head on it, I get in
there.

695
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:11,900
I feel like I'm in the an oasis.
All right.

696
00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:14,600
Yes, let's carry on.
We still got about 12 and a half

697
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:19,300
pages left.
Yep, we're 40 minutes in.

698
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:21,900
Yeah, we went through the first
part.

699
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,500
All right, we're going to have
to cut this into four episodes.

700
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:30,900
This is going to suck anyways.
Um, for those that are watching

701
00:42:30,900 --> 00:42:33,400
or listening if you hear me,
say, hey, put your hand down.

702
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:37,000
Like I said the Jake because the
the program that were using we

703
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,800
hit a little button.
Says, Hey, I want to talk and

704
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:43,600
they constantly hop it on down
there image out of just trying

705
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,100
to explain it.
So they don't scare.

706
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:48,600
Nobody can like know what, I've
just whatever.

707
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:54,700
Anyways whatever moving on.
Shut up, Jeremy and read.

708
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,100
Hopefully.
Hopefully I can actually read

709
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,700
will see.
As you can see, I did not

710
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,100
proofread this one.
Okay.

711
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:06,000
That's no Institute of Discovery
and science research institute.

712
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:10,500
Yes, that's it.
Who-who is knids.

713
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,400
The national is team discovers
science was a team of scientists

714
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,900
created by Robert Bigelow, set
to research the Myriad of his

715
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:21,500
paranormal and Supernatural
interests.

716
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:25,200
One thing to understand about
this, I mean, is that they knew

717
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,600
that they were tasked to
research a place believed to be

718
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,300
in epicenter of a plethora of
different Supernatural

719
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:35,600
activities, but they always
approach the matter and a very

720
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,100
professional and scientifically
acceptable manner.

721
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,000
The team consistently use the
scientific method throughout

722
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,900
their research, as well as never
settling for the easy answer to

723
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:48,000
the events that would unfold in
their time on the ranch.

724
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,500
All of the needs teams members,
suffered serious hits, their

725
00:43:51,500 --> 00:43:53,000
professional lives due to their
time.

726
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:54,900
I'm investigating Skinwalker
Ranch.

727
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:59,300
Many of whom were very serious
researchers and other scientific

728
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:01,600
topics such as one of the
authors of hunt for the

729
00:44:01,607 --> 00:44:05,100
skinwalker Colm.
A Kelleher who is a PhD in

730
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:08,200
Biochemistry where the
concentration cell and molecular

731
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,700
biology in the fall of 1996.
The needs team set up their

732
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:15,700
electronic devices around the
ranch and whatever was behind

733
00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:17,200
all the strangeness is going to
walk around.

734
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,400
Chh-chh was now on the opposite
side of the game of cat and

735
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,300
mouse.
Whereas when the ranch was But

736
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:26,700
the Sherman's, the ranch was in
charge now that the Science and

737
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,100
Technology stepped into the
ring.

738
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,400
The ranch was the one being
hunted, the needs team made

739
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,100
history as being the biggest
operation that included

740
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:39,700
extremely valued Professionals
in various Fields coming

741
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:42,900
together to investigate and
study a paranormal phenomena.

742
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,700
Many of these members attempted
to remain anonymous Ned's began

743
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:51,000
the investigation of Skinwalker
Ranch with three researchers on

744
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:55,900
the property, a physician A
veterinarian and column Kelleher

745
00:44:56,100 --> 00:45:01,200
microbiologist.
The team moved into a research

746
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,200
trailer that Bigelow had paid to
have put on the property and

747
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,700
began their studies with setting
up recording devices from

748
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:10,000
magnetic, electromagnetic and
visible ultraviolet Spectrum.

749
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,600
Readers other minor equipment.
That was first used on the ranch

750
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,100
were night vision binoculars
video cameras with night vision

751
00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:22,200
radiofrequency, analyzers and
microwave, detectors soon after

752
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,700
research began the needs team
grew by a few, more members

753
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,700
enough people were now in
Investigating the property, the

754
00:45:28,700 --> 00:45:32,700
form, two teams for nightly
research Expeditions these teams

755
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:36,600
consisted of one of the original
researchers scientists and one

756
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,000
or two investigators.
The goal of these teams was to

757
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,400
gather, as much evidence of
paranormal or Supernatural

758
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,800
activity with the tools listed
before as they could, so that

759
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:51,400
the needs 15-member science
Advisory Board, which was

760
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,400
external to the field.
Researchers could dissect the

761
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,300
evidence and determine new
investigative strategies and

762
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:02,300
That could be useful for the
field team on September 16th

763
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:06,000
1996.
At 01:30 one of the members

764
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,600
witnessed a light over a row of
cottonwood trees, just outside

765
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,000
the window of the research
trailer.

766
00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:14,100
The light was so bright.
That at first, the collective

767
00:46:14,100 --> 00:46:16,900
thought was that it was a flare
floating over the tree line.

768
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,000
The team watch as the light
seemed to float downward into

769
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,900
the trees and all of a sudden
the like shot back up to the

770
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:28,000
Treetops photos and video that
captures the 10 minutes of Of

771
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,600
the team's first Collective,
anomaly seem to only show a

772
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:35,700
distant light that did not look
abnormal at all other than the

773
00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:39,300
unnatural movements.
But to the naked eye, the bright

774
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:42,400
bluish tinge and blinding
illumination.

775
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,800
Was something special to every
member.

776
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:49,200
This was important to the
investigation and set the

777
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,500
excitement to extremely high
levels, seemingly right off the

778
00:46:52,508 --> 00:46:56,900
bat, the team had witnessed, its
first unidentified, flying

779
00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:59,000
object.
Although the team agreed that

780
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,600
this meager light barely
Quantified, something

781
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,600
Supernatural, the team began to
feel excited and more accepting

782
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,200
of Tara Sherman stories, but
there was still a lot of work to

783
00:47:09,207 --> 00:47:12,700
be done.
All right.

784
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:15,900
Was it in the last episode that
I had said that?

785
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:19,000
I don't put a lot of weight into
orbs and we started talking

786
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,100
about that one.
What was that place that you

787
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:25,700
said that people observation
deck who can go and look at all

788
00:47:25,707 --> 00:47:30,600
the orbs and stuff?
Because I look that I don't

789
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:34,300
remember which one I said, but I
know there's, there's Marfa.

790
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,000
I think we don't want that.
Yeah, Marfa.

791
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,700
So I had looked at up and
apparently, there was a team of

792
00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:46,600
Scientists that went to go and
explore, what's going on with

793
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,400
that Marfa area.
And they determined that all of

794
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,300
those orbs that people see were
headlights being reflected from

795
00:47:55,300 --> 00:47:59,900
the road as the cars pass by,
and then citizens, except for

796
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:03,400
the closest highway was
extremely far away.

797
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,100
And they said that the
reflection actually beans due to

798
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:11,500
the the heat, the heat rising
off.

799
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:14,000
The And you know how it gets
swamp gas?

800
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,700
Yeah, well, no, no, so like if
you're looking at a hot road,

801
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:19,900
you can see like the heat waves
coming off the ground.

802
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:22,500
They said that that has some
deal to do with Mirage.

803
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:28,800
Yeah they said somehow that was
reflecting the lights but come

804
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,200
on man as well.
I mean but they're scientists

805
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:35,300
anyway.
And they circumstance hate on

806
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:39,400
cameras external to any not
certified electricians, right?

807
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,100
They're scientists because they
have added Like a PhD in

808
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:46,000
biology, doesn't mean they can
go wire up a house, they're not

809
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,100
waived certification because
they're, you know, super smart

810
00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:53,200
and some areas.
But anyway, I'm curious if this

811
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,600
circumstance would have an
explanation similar to that like

812
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,400
a reflection off of, I don't
know.

813
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,600
Someone's watch or something
like that, you know, if there's

814
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:08,200
fog or something, you know,
large giant areas that have lot

815
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,300
of fields and stuff generally,
there's a lot of fog that kicks

816
00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:14,900
up In the evenings because of
the temperature of the ground

817
00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:16,300
versus the temperature of the
air.

818
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:20,100
If so, if there's a red light or
whatever being reflected off of

819
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,200
someone's watch and they're just
like, they're just standing

820
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,600
there like looking at this thing
and they just, you know, there's

821
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,500
wiggling their their wrist and
they don't realize it like, when

822
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:31,600
you're in your car and, you
know, you're the sunlight beams

823
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,000
off your wrist watch and it's
just dancing around the car.

824
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:36,100
I wonder if there would be
something that would have an

825
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:39,200
explanation like this or the
lens of a camera, right?

826
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,500
It's reflecting off of the lens
and We towards where they're

827
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:45,400
pointing at which would be
following this light.

828
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:48,100
I just a curiosity for me
credit.

829
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,800
Yeah, I mean I guess yeah
because I mean that's a super

830
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:56,900
simple explanation but still it
could be something that would be

831
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,500
looked over or because it's so
simple, right?

832
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:06,400
It'd be like, like wow we all
saw this thing but I don't know

833
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:10,000
it.
It could be passed over and just

834
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,100
not thought about as Maybe this
is a reflection of something

835
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:15,800
because a lot of cameras show
red lights when they're

836
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,400
recording, right?
So if a red light is near

837
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,300
another spot and it's being
reflected out and it's hitting a

838
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:25,800
backdrop of fog.
I don't know.

839
00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:29,800
Yeah, I don't know.
Possibly, another researcher,

840
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,700
Occam's razor right.
Possibly could happen.

841
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,200
I mean, it sounds like a pretty
simple explanation.

842
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,600
All right?
So cattle mutilations cattle,

843
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,500
mutilations became a fairly
common occurrence on the ranch

844
00:50:41,500 --> 00:50:44,100
after Bigelow and the mids team
took over the property.

845
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:48,100
The first such incidents
happened to two members of The

846
00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:52,300
Herd within feet of each other.
The animals were found shoved

847
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:55,500
under the fence the property and
served as the event that Cause

848
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:57,700
mr.
Bigelow to install a ton of

849
00:50:57,707 --> 00:51:01,700
security cameras all around the
property, as well as fenced-in

850
00:51:01,700 --> 00:51:04,700
observation decks for
researchers to conduct stakeouts

851
00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:07,100
and watch the happenings of the
ranch live.

852
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,200
As if the unknown entities of
the area knew that they were now

853
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:14,800
under surveillance all
activities stalled until one day

854
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,400
in January of 1997, just after a
massive snowstorm had taken

855
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,000
place.
Terry had noticed that a couple

856
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,800
of calves near the observation
deck has strange marks around

857
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,700
their eyes and ears, the team
called in a local veterinarian,

858
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:32,500
who insisted that.
He had never seen anything like

859
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:35,500
the marks that were on the young
calves, but when another

860
00:51:35,500 --> 00:51:39,300
veterinarian, a more senior than
Aryan had come to the property

861
00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:42,100
for a second opinion.
He had said that the injuries

862
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:45,900
were caused by a wildcat or
coyote with the lack of tracks

863
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:49,700
in the snow from either a feline
or canine Intruder, the team

864
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:52,700
concluded that this was most
likely not the answer.

865
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,000
This small event would be the
purpose.

866
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,600
In the strangest of the area
needed to return in full force

867
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:01,900
and one particular event that
involved.

868
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:03,400
The mutilation of one of
Terry's.

869
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,000
Calves on the property, a calf
was ripped apart in broad

870
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,200
daylight just a few feet away
from Terry and a few other

871
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:14,000
researchers, the body seemed to
have been ripped right open and

872
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,600
one leg removed from the rest.
Oh and all the legs removed from

873
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,400
the rest of the body with ease
along with these gruesome

874
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,400
injuries.
The calf also had all of its

875
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:28,200
organs removed one ear missing
and like many, other mutilation

876
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,300
cases.
It was completely drained of its

877
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:33,000
blood.
And as if this, couldn't get any

878
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,900
weirder, once the needs team,
placed the flesh from a move to

879
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:39,500
your under a microscope, it was
clear that what had done this

880
00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:41,900
had done.
So with Precision, only capable

881
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:45,800
of being made by a seasoned
surgeon with a steady hand and a

882
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,400
scalpel.
Question.

883
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:54,300
Yeah, it was ripped apart right
in front of him so he saw it

884
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:56,100
being ripped apart.
No.

885
00:52:56,900 --> 00:52:59,800
So we get into it.
We dive a little bit deeper into

886
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:04,600
this right away.
So if you want, I can I can jump

887
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:09,500
right into the next section.
This was more of an introduction

888
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:13,300
to the story of the calf and the
net.

889
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:17,700
Very next section does much
deeper into the Story.

890
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,900
Now because I have another
question real quick.

891
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:26,200
What's up?
So they found that these calves.

892
00:53:26,500 --> 00:53:33,700
The, the original ones had, they
claim that it was from a feline

893
00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:37,400
or canine Intruder because
there.

894
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,800
But they said probably not
because there was no tracks but

895
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,500
this was just after a massive
snowstorm.

896
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,900
So at what point during the The
storm where they attacked where

897
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:52,400
these researchers could claim
that.

898
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,100
Well, that's not the case,
because there's no tracks after

899
00:53:55,100 --> 00:53:58,600
a massive snowstorm.
I find that one hard to believe.

900
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,600
This other one is kind of is
very strange, but that first one

901
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,900
is like, yeah.
Okay.

902
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:07,100
Calves are an easy target, you
know, the sick the Cavs, all

903
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:08,100
right?
Those are the ones that get

904
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:10,000
attacked by stuff.
Should it could have been taken

905
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,000
by a Thunderbird.
I think the whole thing with the

906
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:18,200
footprints is is that they were
able to see the calf footprints

907
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:21,800
in the snow, but there was no
other footprints around it

908
00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,900
indicating a predator of some
sort had come and attack that

909
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,400
point.
I think that's, I think that's

910
00:54:27,500 --> 00:54:30,900
that in the, you know, when I
listen to the book that that was

911
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:35,800
how they they mentioned it, you
know, it was obvious, if the

912
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,600
calf's foot prints of their the
should, if there should be a

913
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,700
predator Footprints as well.
But it wasn't and That's what,

914
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:44,900
that's why it was, you know,
where the cabinet as a either

915
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:48,900
incident, really so alive.
Well, the one that was split in

916
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:52,300
half the Jeremy's talking about
was just one well well not that

917
00:54:52,300 --> 00:54:54,800
one.
I mean the other two to her

918
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,000
life.
Okay.

919
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:00,000
Well in that case are going on
the hands underneath sense or no

920
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,600
no, the other two that had the
the ears and like the or the

921
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,900
face, and the neck, like that
sort of damage the stuff if

922
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:08,300
there's no footprints around
them.

923
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:09,800
But there were still alive
walking around in.

924
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,200
That makes perfect sense, right?
Predators going to came and went

925
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,500
and this cow is obviously making
Footprints because still alive

926
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:16,800
and it's moving around and
stuff.

927
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,200
But the other one I agree, very
strange was anything missing.

928
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:26,600
The anus.
Well from if you don't mind me

929
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:31,400
stepping in Jeremy.
When I read the book, that I

930
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,200
thought there was just the one
leg that was actually, like,

931
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,700
detached from the calf and it
was like, you're right, is, he

932
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,800
seemed like, it was placed.
I think I was mixing.

933
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,500
It makes that order that I think
I was mixing stories there.

934
00:55:42,700 --> 00:55:45,700
I did not prove read this very
well, but not gonna lie.

935
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:49,300
I had a lot going on this week.
Yeah, essentially, you know, we

936
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:54,100
ripped in half at the rib cage.
All the organs entire, you know,

937
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,000
carcass was pretty much empty.
Another thing was no blood, no

938
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,100
blood on the ground, which
should have been There can I

939
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:02,700
come in this next picture real
quick?

940
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:09,500
Yeah I mean I'm sorry I don't
want to that prepared this but

941
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:11,700
not very well.
He didn't proofread it right?

942
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,100
Yeah.
Knock amateur yeah.

943
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:18,400
All right.
Thanks so on March 10th 1997,

944
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,200
while acting as a member of the
needs team.

945
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,200
Calm Kelleher, received a phone
call from Terry Sherman, Terry's

946
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,800
voices, frantic as he told
Kelleher about what happened

947
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:32,500
with his new prize Angus, calf.
On February 21st, Terry decided

948
00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:35,900
to move his cattle from his
personal Ranch back to

949
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:39,600
Skinwalker Ranch, a few or I'm
sorry, a week and a half later,

950
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,100
one of his newly born Black
Angus calves would be

951
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:47,200
dismembered in broad daylight
leading him to contact and his

952
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,600
team for an impromptu
investigation.

953
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:54,300
Five hours after, Terry called
column Kelleher, a team of Three

954
00:56:54,300 --> 00:56:57,400
Investigators, were standing
over the body of the calf or

955
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,200
what was left of it.
At least as a team, Over the

956
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,300
body of the calf.
That weight, 84 pounds.

957
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:06,100
Just two days ago, images of
what could have possibly taken

958
00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:10,500
place ran through everyone's
head, the dismembered corpse lay

959
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,000
downs, back with the chest
cavity.

960
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Splayed open with the points of
the ribs Point, reaching Towards

961
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,000
the Sky.
All four limbs were found feet

962
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:22,200
and one even yards away, all of
its internal organs were gone

963
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,700
and any sign of blood was
nowhere to be found, not a

964
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:29,000
single drop was found on the
grass, snow or hide.

965
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,900
Terry story consisted of him
tagging the animals shortly,

966
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:35,100
before finding it in the shape.
It was in.

967
00:57:35,300 --> 00:57:38,400
When the team got there, he
claimed to have walked a few

968
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,100
hundred yards in another
direction to conduct another

969
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:45,400
chore that had to be done when
his dog began to snarl in the

970
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,800
direction of the calf and the
other cattle.

971
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,400
Just after that, the blue heeler
took off in the opposite

972
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,300
direction and was still not
back.

973
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:58,600
Six hours later as Terry was
telling us the team his story in

974
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,200
fact this dog would never be
seen again as Terry was

975
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,500
finishing up, how he eventually.
Walked back to the area, the dog

976
00:58:06,500 --> 00:58:08,800
was alarming to the
veterinarian.

977
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:12,100
That was a part of the knids
investigation team pointed out.

978
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:13,900
That one of the ears of the
Dead.

979
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:17,800
Calf was sliced off with a very
clean cut as if it were made

980
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,200
with a scalpel.
Ear that had once been pierced

981
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,100
with a yellow identification tag
had now been gone and seemed to

982
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:29,300
be the only part of the animal
actually missing other than its

983
00:58:29,300 --> 00:58:34,000
organs and blood as night fell.
The three-man needs team and

984
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,200
Terry set out to try to find
more clues.

985
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:38,700
As to what may have happened as
they passed.

986
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:42,400
The kind of dogs that properly
kept that, the property kept for

987
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:46,900
security and alarm purposes.
The dogs stayed silent in Erie

988
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:48,900
event.
As dogs were always loud.

989
00:58:49,100 --> 00:58:51,600
When the team was round.
But since they had arrived, the

990
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:56,200
dogs just stayed in the count
not making a peep after a failed

991
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,100
night.
Search for any clues, the team

992
00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:01,400
retired for the night, the
entire day of the eleventh, and

993
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:04,700
the daylight hours of the 12th
gave up no details about the

994
00:59:04,707 --> 00:59:06,400
mystery of what actually
happens.

995
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,400
If calf, but in the late hours
of the 12th, the team and the

996
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,300
rejuvinated dogs were in the
observation trailer.

997
00:59:13,500 --> 00:59:17,800
When all three of the remaining
dogs began barking, howling the

998
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,300
team jumped up with Carrying and
Kelleher jumping in Terry's.

999
00:59:22,300 --> 00:59:25,700
Farm truck with a powerful
Spotlight on its driver side.

1000
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,600
The entire herd seem to be in
the northeastern section of the

1001
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:33,000
ranch, and when the duo began
searching the fence line, they

1002
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:36,600
cross the beam of light across a
shadowy figure that looked like

1003
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,100
a cow for a brief second.
In the tree line, near the

1004
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:43,200
Southeastern Corner, Terry
turned towards the animal and

1005
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,700
sped quickly towards where the
men thought they had sought just

1006
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:51,500
as the truck straightened out.
Out both men spotted two orbs

1007
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:55,000
hanging in the tree line just
over where they thought they saw

1008
00:59:55,008 --> 01:00:00,500
a lone cow but as it got closer,
they realized that these orbs

1009
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:03,600
were not words, they were the
eye-shine of a gigantic black

1010
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:05,800
creature in the tree about 20
feet off the ground.

1011
01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:09,300
Terry stop the truck with the
driver side window facing the

1012
01:00:09,308 --> 01:00:12,800
creature, reach behind the seat,
grabbed his rifle and very

1013
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,800
quickly fired at the creature,
the light shining from the eyes

1014
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:18,800
disappeared and Terry thought he
had killed the damn thing once

1015
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:22,200
and for all.
All quote, I wasn't going to let

1016
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:24,300
that son of a bitch.
Get another one on my animals.

1017
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:28,500
Terry old Terry, put the truck
in drive and stopped about 40

1018
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:31,900
feet away from the tree that the
creature was sitting in the two

1019
01:00:31,900 --> 01:00:35,100
men.
Jumped out and split up, not

1020
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:39,200
long after Colin, Cowie her
heard the quick 12 reports from

1021
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,300
Terry's rifle as he yelled, I
got them.

1022
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:46,200
When Colin caught up with Terry,
there was no animal just pissed

1023
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,200
off and Confused Terry, sure.
Sherman, who claimed to have hit

1024
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,800
the creature, point-blank from
40 feet away, Terry was upset

1025
01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:58,500
and confused as to how it could
have gotten away after being so

1026
01:00:58,500 --> 01:01:01,500
close to it.
Quote sucker must have weighed

1027
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:04,800
400 pounds.
Terry, would tell comb the two

1028
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,000
men split up to search once more
at the location.

1029
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:12,500
The Beast last sighting comb
held onto a camera, hoping to

1030
01:01:12,508 --> 01:01:16,500
get footage of whatever the
animal may be, or at least a

1031
01:01:16,508 --> 01:01:19,500
foot print.
And just as he was ready to But

1032
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,000
there was a large 6 inch
circular footprint.

1033
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,200
The footprint was strange as it
was nothing like anything, any

1034
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,800
of the four men at ever seen, it
had two long finger like

1035
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,600
appendages coming out of the
back of it as if it were from an

1036
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:41,100
inverted bird of prey foot.
And the top looked faintly,

1037
01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:45,600
canine the team, only found one
other print 20 feet away before

1038
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:50,600
they gave up for the night.
So the team Called it the only

1039
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,100
evidence that this ever happened
are some photos from the

1040
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:57,100
investigation and a videotape.
There was never a casting made

1041
01:01:57,100 --> 01:02:00,400
of either footprint.
When it was all said and done

1042
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,300
Terry, actually, claimed that
there were two animals that

1043
01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:07,100
night, one of the tree that he
fired one round into and one on

1044
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:09,900
the ground that they had
originally spotted and Terry

1045
01:02:09,900 --> 01:02:12,700
would eventually hit twice with
his rifle from 40 feet away.

1046
01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:17,300
He said that if he were to say
that the creatures looked like

1047
01:02:17,300 --> 01:02:21,400
any animal, he knows of You
compare them to a very, very

1048
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:26,200
large wolf, but one that can
walk on two legs, sort of like a

1049
01:02:26,207 --> 01:02:29,000
werewolf.
With the lack of physical

1050
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,000
evidence, the needs team decided
that although they had seen

1051
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,700
something and the footprints
were documented on video.

1052
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:37,900
This encounter failed to meet
their requirements for proof of

1053
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:41,400
anything paranormal or
Supernatural due to the lack of

1054
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,000
physical evidence, IE blood, a
body or video of the animal

1055
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,900
itself.
This would not be an event that

1056
01:02:47,900 --> 01:02:50,600
would be written about in any
peer reviewed article created by

1057
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,000
the knids team for the
investigations in the Skinwalker

1058
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,100
Ranch.
I mean, such an incredible

1059
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:02,000
investigation going on, and
they're not going to take a cast

1060
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:07,300
of the footprint, I mean, that's
just Amateur hour, hmm, right?

1061
01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:11,400
They have that much stuff going
on, where they have a whole team

1062
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,000
of researchers over there, you
know, various scientific

1063
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,300
degrees, all trying to study
this thing.

1064
01:03:17,300 --> 01:03:21,700
And then suddenly there's this
quote, you know, must have been

1065
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:25,300
400 pound animal that he shoots
at leaves this crazy looking

1066
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:27,000
Footprint.
That's different than anything

1067
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,300
anyone has ever seen before.
But somehow they're not going to

1068
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:32,900
take a cast of it and then also
he's going to go back and stay.

1069
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:35,400
Start saying, well there was
another 12 and all sorts of

1070
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,700
stuff.
This is where they tend to lose

1071
01:03:37,700 --> 01:03:39,400
me.
Like the story is interesting in

1072
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,300
itself until, you know,
something really crucial is left

1073
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:47,400
out or you know, the person or
people that are involved.

1074
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,700
Then start adding extra stuff
that wasn't originally in the

1075
01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:55,400
report it's like, okay well,
Either either something happened

1076
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,500
and then you're just imbue no
embellishing it and flub it and

1077
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:02,400
making it you know add fluff to
it like an eval or nothing

1078
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,200
happened and you're just trying
to make content because you know

1079
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:08,000
this will be a really cool story
one day.

1080
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:16,700
I don't disagree.
I think that this was a very

1081
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:20,600
interesting story and I lost a
lot of respect for the needs

1082
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,800
team because of this.
But one thing stood out to me,

1083
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,600
right?
So you had Terry and calm who

1084
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:34,200
had this encounter with this
creature or creatures but the

1085
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,900
whole four-person team including
Terry himself three from the

1086
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:39,000
mids one.
Terry.

1087
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:44,000
Who saw these prints now?
Why they took why they didn't

1088
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:45,400
take the test?
I don't know, because we're

1089
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:48,300
about to talk about another
story where they did, in fact,

1090
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:52,600
take a cast of something, no
idea.

1091
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:55,100
That's like, that's a huge red
flag right there.

1092
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:58,900
Why didn't you take a cast?
Did it's kind of, that's kind of

1093
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:02,700
what I got stuck onto because I
can understand maybe not having

1094
01:05:02,700 --> 01:05:07,800
a Tracker there to help track
this animal, but you've also got

1095
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,900
Three scientists sitting there
and not one of them thought.

1096
01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:15,900
Hey, we need to take a casting.
We need to document this

1097
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:20,100
footprint like Smashley
especially because one of them

1098
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:23,400
to PhD biologists and this is
Prince, never seen in his life.

1099
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,100
Just leave it.
Leave it to get destroyed by the

1100
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:30,400
ground.
Yeah it makes no sense to me

1101
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,600
whatsoever.
The other thing I have a

1102
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:37,500
question kind of a gross
question, but hopefully I don't

1103
01:05:37,508 --> 01:05:40,800
know if combined skills right
here, some will be able to

1104
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:44,600
answer it for me.
The idea of something being

1105
01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,000
found dead and no blood being
and its body, right?

1106
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:54,300
So I know that as soon as your
dead dead, your heart stops

1107
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:57,700
beating your blood stops
circulating inside your body

1108
01:05:57,700 --> 01:05:59,700
right?
Or for an animal or whatever it

1109
01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:02,200
is.
But at what point point does it

1110
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:07,900
start to coagulate and clot to
wear then you could cut an

1111
01:06:07,900 --> 01:06:10,500
animal open and no blood would
come out of it.

1112
01:06:10,500 --> 01:06:13,700
Is it a couple hours, right?
Because saying that there's no

1113
01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:17,200
blood doesn't necessarily mean
that it was drained of its

1114
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,900
blood, it could just be that it
was, you know, ripped apart, or

1115
01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:27,800
cut apart some time after its
death because that blood there

1116
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:32,100
is no longer puppet.
Pumping is now, you know, Old,

1117
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,500
right?
So it wouldn't be leaking out.

1118
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:37,600
Like there was a heart pumping
with pressure behind it, like a

1119
01:06:37,607 --> 01:06:40,800
hydraulic system when you cut a
line and start spraying out,

1120
01:06:40,900 --> 01:06:42,900
that's what happens when you get
an injury, right?

1121
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:46,100
Because there's pressure inside
your veins but when that stops

1122
01:06:46,500 --> 01:06:50,600
and everything slows down and it
starts to coagulate, you could

1123
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,600
just as easily say, well there's
no blood here but it could be,

1124
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,700
you know, doesn't necessarily
mean that the animal died and it

1125
01:06:57,707 --> 01:07:00,000
was immediately cut apart.
It just means that sometime

1126
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:04,700
afterwards, right?
That, that animal then was cut

1127
01:07:04,700 --> 01:07:07,500
or you know, things were removed
from it from a surgical

1128
01:07:07,500 --> 01:07:10,200
perspective, you know, all these
sorts of things but I don't know

1129
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,700
what that timeframe is or what
that looks like.

1130
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,000
So that I never really get hung
up on that whole like oh there

1131
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,300
was no blood on the ground.
It's like okay so the animal

1132
01:07:19,300 --> 01:07:22,400
could have died of natural
causes been left there for a day

1133
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,900
before it had time to start
bloating and then hacked apart

1134
01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:29,000
and stuff.
And there would would they be

1135
01:07:29,008 --> 01:07:33,600
any blood on the ground but but
the Me, not say that Terry went

1136
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,500
in tagged the calf.
Not too long before hand the

1137
01:07:37,500 --> 01:07:39,300
same day.
So I don't know.

1138
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:42,400
I got hung up like a footprint,
like I had this and then I was

1139
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,900
just like, this is stupid.
Or am I making things up?

1140
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,400
Yes.
Oh no, it was about I think it

1141
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,600
was about 45 minutes where he
had his eyes on wasn't so yeah

1142
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:54,100
there is no way that the blood
would have coagulated that

1143
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:57,300
quickly.
I I don't think that's unless

1144
01:07:57,300 --> 01:08:01,600
you're trying to freeze the
animal which Isn't the case here

1145
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,800
either, I don't know.
As you were asking a question.

1146
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:09,000
I was just thinking of the show.
Dexter one of the one of the

1147
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,900
serial killers in the show,
literally, drained the blood out

1148
01:08:11,900 --> 01:08:14,200
of their victims and that like
as you were asking that

1149
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,600
question, that's all I was
thinking.

1150
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:20,800
I don't think that there's any
reason to think that there's not

1151
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:25,399
some form of like,
interdimensional portal or

1152
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:31,100
beings that are somehow just not
of this Dimension or And they

1153
01:08:31,108 --> 01:08:36,200
must be coming in here and maybe
they have the ability to pause

1154
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,200
time in a weird kind of way,
right?

1155
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:41,700
So 45 minutes goes by but it was
long enough for them to sit

1156
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:46,399
there and surgically remove the
organs from this calf without

1157
01:08:46,399 --> 01:08:50,600
spilling, any blood, write the
whole thing, and then go back

1158
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:52,300
through their portal into their
own Dimension.

1159
01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:56,000
Maybe they've been here forever
and they've just been doing this

1160
01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:59,700
kind of thing forever.
They just feed on organs of cat

1161
01:08:59,700 --> 01:09:07,300
of calves and cows.
And Analysis and anus.

1162
01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:10,399
Is there you go?
Yes, now by it.

1163
01:09:10,899 --> 01:09:17,899
West did I forget anything?
I thought that he was working

1164
01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:22,000
like a hundred yards away at the
time to when he didn't have his

1165
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,300
eyes on it.
Yeah, I did mention not

1166
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:26,200
mistaken.
It was a, it was a couple

1167
01:09:26,700 --> 01:09:31,800
hundred yards.
He was near enough that, if

1168
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,800
something was attacking it, he
would have known because he

1169
01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:36,200
would have heard it.
Yeah, because actively attacking

1170
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:40,100
him because he had walked Terry
our, I'm sorry.

1171
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:46,000
Terry had walked home.
Out to where he was when when

1172
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:51,300
his dogs Allah alerted to
something over in the direction

1173
01:09:51,300 --> 01:09:54,800
of the cows and I believe it was
quite a distance.

1174
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,700
It was it was multiple hundred
yards.

1175
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:04,800
I mean, your sources, probably
said that for a single property.

1176
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,000
Sure.
They met, they specifically,

1177
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,600
said, 100 yards.
But either way, I mean, you can

1178
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,200
be pretty far away from an
animal.

1179
01:10:11,700 --> 01:10:14,900
That is upset and you're gonna
hear, you know.

1180
01:10:15,100 --> 01:10:18,300
Yeah.
You could be multiple football

1181
01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:23,800
fields away and hear that but
also the one leg that was torn

1182
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,200
off at least in his first game.
Walk.

1183
01:10:26,200 --> 01:10:29,400
They met they specifically said
that like where it had separate

1184
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,200
it from The calf there is
multiple ligaments and whatnot

1185
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:38,100
that like they said that the the
force required to just rip that

1186
01:10:38,100 --> 01:10:42,600
off would have been greater
than, you know, the majority of

1187
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,200
predators are even in that area
could apply.

1188
01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:50,700
They did dive into that.
And they specifically got a

1189
01:10:50,708 --> 01:10:56,000
little bit into the anatomy of
the socket that in which the the

1190
01:10:56,000 --> 01:11:03,500
hip would have been attached to.
So, I want to say it was in

1191
01:11:03,700 --> 01:11:06,000
office going to walk away.
I said all four of them but I

1192
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,600
could definitely be wrong.
Is it also possible that this

1193
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,800
guy is being?
You know, he's being visited and

1194
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,900
because of these visitations,
there's time dilation and all

1195
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:21,600
kinds of other things, so maybe
it wasn't 45 minutes.

1196
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,000
Maybe he was experiencing
something for fuck.

1197
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,900
Could have been 2 days, right?
For all we know, and that could

1198
01:11:27,900 --> 01:11:30,500
absolutely be a fucking
Possibility.

1199
01:11:30,500 --> 01:11:34,700
Is that I mean, missing time is
something that has been

1200
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:39,300
documented or not documented but
at least reported to happen

1201
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:44,300
around the Uintah Basin.
Not necessarily on Skinwalker

1202
01:11:44,300 --> 01:11:49,900
Ranch but they external to the
ranch, the residents of the area

1203
01:11:49,900 --> 01:11:52,700
and the natives have reported
missing time.

1204
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:56,600
Yeah, I've had three hours of
missing time before is wild.

1205
01:11:56,800 --> 01:11:59,900
Yeah, and if you're out in the,
in the, in your Ranch, you know,

1206
01:11:59,900 --> 01:12:02,900
in the woods at the tree line on
a bit of field somewhere and

1207
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:07,200
like an hour to slips by like
you wouldn't even notice, you

1208
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:13,700
know, Well, for me, from what
how they describe Terry, you

1209
01:12:13,700 --> 01:12:17,200
know, he's when it comes to
raising cattle and doing this.

1210
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,600
This is this is what he loves.
It's been in his family.

1211
01:12:20,900 --> 01:12:25,200
He's very, very good at it.
You know his cattle is prize for

1212
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:30,600
you know, How good they are.
And you know, he Prides himself

1213
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:37,300
on, never losing more than one
percent of, you know, his herd

1214
01:12:37,300 --> 01:12:41,600
ever, you know, each year from
predators and whatnot and he's

1215
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,200
very you know, what you say
Street Smart.

1216
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,500
When it comes to working on a
ranch of what not working with

1217
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:50,300
these kind of animals and
protect them, what that would

1218
01:12:50,300 --> 01:12:52,900
be?
Rash, Mart Ranch my okay.

1219
01:12:52,900 --> 01:12:57,200
Whatever BrandsMart.
He's very rare me, such a Whole,

1220
01:12:57,300 --> 01:13:01,000
I know, I'm just kidding.
And I'm not, like, it seems

1221
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,100
like, I feel like he would be
the type of person that would

1222
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:08,000
notice, if all said an hour had
slipped by, you know, I don't

1223
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,100
know, because he's literally
from sunup, to sundown, he's

1224
01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:15,300
doing something, you know, he's
got a schedule, the things he's

1225
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:19,600
doing and what not?
And I don't know for time to

1226
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:24,200
slip by, for just him.
I mean, for me it's like,

1227
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:27,300
wouldn't the cattle move and
that time period, if If for

1228
01:13:27,300 --> 01:13:30,400
whatever reason, time froze for
him, unless they were victims of

1229
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:34,000
into they could be victims of
single you know, you do that.

1230
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,900
The moment that the cattle was
killed, it could have been the

1231
01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:39,900
start of this experience for
him.

1232
01:13:39,900 --> 01:13:45,100
A 23 hours could have gone by to
him as 45 minutes and then by

1233
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:47,600
then these other these beings
could have been doing more than

1234
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:51,400
just experimenting or
interacting with him but also

1235
01:13:51,900 --> 01:13:55,500
the cattle and whatever else we
do forging for fucking mushrooms

1236
01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:56,100
as well.
I don't know.

1237
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,900
Well, What if, what if it was
more like, you have, you know,

1238
01:14:00,900 --> 01:14:04,700
we've talked about this could be
beings From Another Universe

1239
01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:07,300
Dimension.
Let me finish what I'm saying.

1240
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:11,900
Quick while I have it in my
mind, what if instead of

1241
01:14:11,907 --> 01:14:15,900
freezing time in our reality,
they're reaching in grabbing

1242
01:14:15,900 --> 01:14:18,800
this pulling it to theirs and
then you know, they had they can

1243
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,400
take whatever time they want.
And then when they're done

1244
01:14:22,500 --> 01:14:25,500
doing, whatever the hell they
want, they just place it right

1245
01:14:25,500 --> 01:14:26,700
back.
Yeah, I could drive you.

1246
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:32,400
A Time, differential somehow in
the between the dimensions, you

1247
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,800
know, 45 minutes to us could be
a week to them, you know, or

1248
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,400
whatever.
That could be a possibility as

1249
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,300
well, Drew to what West said
with him.

1250
01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:50,400
This boasting of I only lose 1%
of my herd and you know, all

1251
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:55,500
this sort of stuff, could it be
that maybe there was way more

1252
01:14:55,500 --> 01:14:58,900
than 45 minutes worth of time
that had passed between the last

1253
01:14:58,900 --> 01:15:01,500
time he saw this calf and it was
out of embarrassment that he

1254
01:15:01,500 --> 01:15:03,400
just said I just had my eyes on
it.

1255
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:08,000
Well how how long they would see
it off 45 minutes or so or That

1256
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:11,900
he may have been lying about the
amount of time like purposefully

1257
01:15:11,900 --> 01:15:14,000
because now there's all this
attention to stuff, the only

1258
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:17,800
thing that trips me out about
this is that because we talked

1259
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,200
about in the first one that
Terry didn't ever, they didn't

1260
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,700
sell the ranch for a large
profit actually looked it up,

1261
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,600
the ranch was bought by the next
person for only two hundred

1262
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,100
thousand dollars in.
It's very, very low right

1263
01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:36,000
midsole 200k.
Okay, so that was just like and

1264
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,400
then the Skinwalker Ranch, I
show the new guy now.

1265
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:43,400
Owns it right there and billions
of dollars, right?

1266
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:46,200
Yeah.
So so they made a profit but

1267
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:51,200
Terry did not and then also
actually went to another, it

1268
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,800
went to a couple before it was
bought by the current owners

1269
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,300
now.
So there there wasn't owner in

1270
01:15:56,300 --> 01:16:02,600
between who had very little
strange occurrences but they did

1271
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:08,900
have it.
It wasn't as As present as it

1272
01:16:08,900 --> 01:16:12,200
was for the Sherman's or even
for the Midstream.

1273
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,200
Well, there were a few to my
point is that there wasn't a

1274
01:16:16,208 --> 01:16:23,200
profit made by them.
Yes although that's not to say

1275
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:27,100
that there couldn't have been an
effort to maybe stir up enough,

1276
01:16:27,700 --> 01:16:33,000
enough of a good look.
I mean, I personally know a

1277
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:37,700
cattle rancher like in Kansas
right now.

1278
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,900
And he makes a good living,
right?

1279
01:16:40,900 --> 01:16:44,200
It's a lot of work.
He's works, you know, crazy

1280
01:16:44,200 --> 01:16:46,800
hours.
You know when he's not dealing

1281
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,800
with all that stuff.
He's also I think he he grows

1282
01:16:50,700 --> 01:16:56,000
soybeans but there's he's
constantly working now.

1283
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,900
If there was an opportunity for
him to sell his property and all

1284
01:16:58,900 --> 01:17:02,700
of his cattle and make way more
money than he does with his

1285
01:17:02,700 --> 01:17:07,700
current job, You know.
Maybe that could be a motivation

1286
01:17:07,700 --> 01:17:11,900
to add a little bit or two, you
know, now I didn't happen.

1287
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:13,800
Right.
And that's, that's weird and he

1288
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,900
didn't, I don't think he went
and wrote a book about it, so

1289
01:17:16,900 --> 01:17:20,400
that's weird.
So there wasn't any effort for

1290
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,200
him to, you know, make money off
of his own experiences, which

1291
01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,500
you would expect, you know, if
someone had a bunch of crazy

1292
01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:31,000
experiences and there's a bunch
of weird incidences and stuff

1293
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,100
and then they wrote a book about
it and they're constantly

1294
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:38,900
pressing their book that Would,
you know, there would be reason

1295
01:17:38,900 --> 01:17:41,700
to believe that some of the
stories may not have been as

1296
01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:45,800
truthful as they laid it down as
but that didn't happen the

1297
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:47,700
circumstance.
So that that's throwing me for a

1298
01:17:47,700 --> 01:17:52,100
loop, but maybe from the
perspective of the sky, as, you

1299
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:56,600
know, boasting, whether that's
ego or whether that's, you know,

1300
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,200
some sort of Pride level that he
has that, I only lose so much of

1301
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:04,300
my heard every single season,
you know, I'm such a good, you

1302
01:18:04,300 --> 01:18:07,200
know, I'm such.
A good Rancher, blah, blah,

1303
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,700
blah, all this sort of stuff, I
raise the best beef, you know,

1304
01:18:09,700 --> 01:18:14,400
everything and then suddenly one
dies and it's like, man, I just

1305
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:19,000
saw that thing, you know, that
was, I just had my eyes on that

1306
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:22,300
thing, you know, true, is that
true?

1307
01:18:22,300 --> 01:18:25,400
I don't know because, you know,
here we are just the section or

1308
01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,600
just before this, he's talking
about, you know, some animal

1309
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,400
that he shot at and then
suddenly after, you know, this

1310
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:34,000
cast isn't taken.
And then now he's saying that

1311
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:35,800
there was actually two of them,
you know?

1312
01:18:35,900 --> 01:18:40,000
Psych is what he's saying,
honest and truthful if no one

1313
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:44,300
else is around you observe and
to say yes it was 45 minutes.

1314
01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:50,300
I was with him, you know, Well,
calm did see the creature as

1315
01:18:50,300 --> 01:18:54,000
well.
So whether there was two of them

1316
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,300
or not, I don't know.
But the creature was spotted by

1317
01:18:57,300 --> 01:19:01,300
two different people.
Terry was the only person him

1318
01:19:01,300 --> 01:19:08,100
and his dogs that with that, you
know, first person witnessed,

1319
01:19:08,900 --> 01:19:13,900
The Killing from afar of the
creature are of the, the cast,

1320
01:19:13,900 --> 01:19:15,200
right?
I mean, it wasn't even

1321
01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:16,900
witnessed.
It was heard, right?

1322
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,800
More or less.
He heard is dogs alerting to.

1323
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:23,400
It was brought his attention to
it.

1324
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:25,800
He didn't.
As far as I know he didn't

1325
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:29,900
really hear like the calf
bleeding or writing or like the

1326
01:19:29,900 --> 01:19:35,700
the mother cow bleating John.
Oh yeah I mean all of these are

1327
01:19:35,700 --> 01:19:41,200
perfectly reasonable.
I don't, you know, I mean when

1328
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,600
you're talking about missing
time and stuff like that or

1329
01:19:44,700 --> 01:19:50,100
paused time or time I'm
dilations between multiverses

1330
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:54,300
that says, you know, as much
sense as you can make out of

1331
01:19:54,308 --> 01:19:57,900
that stuff, right?
So there's a level of

1332
01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:03,200
unbelievable - to it that you
got to take with a grain of

1333
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,900
salt.
I mean, at the same time, I've

1334
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:07,100
been watching this show and
there's apparently a nuclear

1335
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:10,200
radiation leak, leaching out of
the ground and affecting

1336
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,800
people's like giving people
tumors in there, you know,

1337
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,400
skulls and stuff.
So I mean, yeah, I mean there's

1338
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:19,200
a bunch of weird stuff going on.
Here that I do believe could be

1339
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:21,600
happening, right?
And the whole dish idea that

1340
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,900
it's a big, you know, a big
satellite dish, but on the

1341
01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:27,200
ground, right?
But so yeah, a lot of weird

1342
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:30,600
stuff going on but interesting
so far it's okay.

1343
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:32,200
I can't wait to do the last
episode.

1344
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,700
I think that's going to be the
funnest when we get to dive into

1345
01:20:34,700 --> 01:20:37,300
some of the theories behind
Skinwalker Ranch like what's

1346
01:20:37,300 --> 01:20:39,600
really going on?
And then we dive into our own

1347
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,000
opinions.
I think that that's going to be

1348
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:45,300
the the real golden episode of
this series.

1349
01:20:45,300 --> 01:20:46,800
It's going to be fucking
fantastic.

1350
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,700
Let me guess he bought this
property to make a cattle ranch

1351
01:20:50,700 --> 01:20:53,000
on because it was so cheap
because it used to be used for

1352
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:57,400
nuclear weapons testing out the
aware and he's just like, I

1353
01:20:57,400 --> 01:20:58,900
don't know.
There's an acre.

1354
01:20:58,900 --> 01:21:04,200
Yeah, you give me money to buy
this here, right?

1355
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:08,900
No.
Um, the Bulls one of the most

1356
01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:12,600
infamous incidents that happened
on the ranch happen when Gwen

1357
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,100
and Terry were driving back to
the area of the ranch, the held

1358
01:21:16,100 --> 01:21:19,800
their prize bull.
The couple were just there

1359
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:24,800
looking after their to Black
Angus and two black sentimental

1360
01:21:24,900 --> 01:21:28,900
Bulls, but as they returned, 45
minutes later they were gone.

1361
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,700
The Corral where they were left
was empty and Silent, no signs

1362
01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:37,900
or evidence left at all as to
what could have happened as

1363
01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:40,600
Terry walk, past an old white
lock trailer.

1364
01:21:40,900 --> 01:21:43,900
Next to the Corral that hasn't
been used in years.

1365
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:46,800
He was shocked to find that
through the cutout window.

1366
01:21:46,900 --> 01:21:51,100
On the side there, stood, the
four bowls fitting perfectly and

1367
01:21:51,100 --> 01:21:56,100
methodically into the cramped
trailer, that was still locked.

1368
01:21:57,300 --> 01:22:00,600
The Bulls seem to be in a trance
almost as if they were frozen in

1369
01:22:00,608 --> 01:22:04,500
time.
Terry was very happy to see them

1370
01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:08,400
and yelled out for Gwen as Terry
began to get really excited and

1371
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:13,100
started messing with the lock to
let them out the Bold spring,

1372
01:22:13,100 --> 01:22:17,900
back to life and began to kick
and belt their frustrations with

1373
01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:19,500
in the heated moments of their
Awakening.

1374
01:22:19,500 --> 01:22:22,300
One of the Bulls kick so hard.
That one of the walls of the

1375
01:22:22,300 --> 01:22:26,900
trailer fell over and the for
Animals ran out several hours

1376
01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:30,700
later when and Terry had their
bowls rounded back up in the

1377
01:22:30,700 --> 01:22:33,900
Corral and head.
Home 20 miles away to sleep for

1378
01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:36,000
the night.
A few days later.

1379
01:22:36,100 --> 01:22:39,300
The needs team showed up to
investigate, Terry's claims a

1380
01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:43,200
few very interesting points that
were made from the team was that

1381
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:45,600
indeed.
The only way into the trailer,

1382
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,500
would have been through the
still locked door, at the back

1383
01:22:48,500 --> 01:22:51,700
of the trailer cobwebs were
still in place near the middle

1384
01:22:51,700 --> 01:22:54,900
of the section that the two
doors would close in to each

1385
01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:58,000
other which helped the case that
however, the poles gotten to the

1386
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,900
trailer in the first place, it
wasn't through the intended way.

1387
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,700
Ways feces and damage were very
present in the trailer and the

1388
01:23:05,700 --> 01:23:09,700
team held, no concern that the
animals were in fact, in the

1389
01:23:09,700 --> 01:23:13,400
trailer, a few things that they
also found that didn't seem

1390
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,700
right about the story was at the
space seem to be too small to

1391
01:23:17,700 --> 01:23:19,400
fit.
All four animals that weighed

1392
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,400
over 2,000 pounds each and how
would they get into the trailer

1393
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:25,900
in the first place?
The team got to work

1394
01:23:25,900 --> 01:23:28,800
investigating the area and found
something very interesting.

1395
01:23:29,300 --> 01:23:32,500
The metal bars closest to the
trailer or Sighs.

1396
01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:35,400
What?
When one of the investigators

1397
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:38,800
passed by the area with the
trailer, the handheld magnetic

1398
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,800
field detector went crazy but
was perfectly silent.

1399
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,700
In other areas with similar
structures as the metal bars in

1400
01:23:45,700 --> 01:23:49,800
the Corral after.
Hourly periodic testing the

1401
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:54,100
magnetic force in the bars, had
completely diminished as a team

1402
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:56,900
closed up their investigations.
The Corral where the bowls were

1403
01:23:56,900 --> 01:23:59,300
kept.
And when the sun went down, they

1404
01:23:59,300 --> 01:24:01,000
began heading back to the
trailer.

1405
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,800
A member Of the team noticed and
mentioned that the dogs were

1406
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,700
once again in their kennels
being very quiet.

1407
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:15,300
One of the dogs was even
whimpering So sorry about the

1408
01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:20,400
poles.
So in order to Make steel

1409
01:24:20,500 --> 01:24:25,500
magnetic don't you have to like
put a bunch of electricity

1410
01:24:25,500 --> 01:24:27,700
through it.
Yeah that would probably charge

1411
01:24:27,700 --> 01:24:29,800
this probably the quickest way
to do it.

1412
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,800
Though there is natural ways of
doing it as well, obviously

1413
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:38,800
because there are natural
magnets but I mean it is it is

1414
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:44,300
an odd occurrence though, it is
very I missed a good chunk of

1415
01:24:44,308 --> 01:24:47,000
that because I had to step away
to get some water and give my

1416
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,300
cat water.
So unfortunately I'm I don't

1417
01:24:50,300 --> 01:24:51,400
really have much for you on this
one.

1418
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,200
Thanks Jeff.
Sorry.

1419
01:24:57,300 --> 01:25:01,500
I don't know, man.
Wes kid.

1420
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,300
I keep coming back to the dogs
first.

1421
01:25:07,300 --> 01:25:11,500
This guy keeps losing his dogs
like that sucks.

1422
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:16,900
He's a terrible pet owner.
Well, obviously can't keep his

1423
01:25:16,900 --> 01:25:18,400
cows.
Can't keep his dogs.

1424
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:24,300
He's just not have animals, but
this is now the second time

1425
01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:27,000
that's but that it's been
mentioned, the dogs, being

1426
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:32,700
completely silent and like,
cowering in their kennel and

1427
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:36,700
that To me is a sure sign that
whatever's around is not

1428
01:25:36,700 --> 01:25:40,000
friendly because not even the
dogs want anything to do with

1429
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,400
it.
Dogs act.

1430
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:48,200
That way around Bigfoot, they do
they do there but nobody said

1431
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:50,700
Bigfoot was friendly.
Well, this is why I keep saying

1432
01:25:50,700 --> 01:25:53,900
like interdimensional like every
time we do an episode as because

1433
01:25:53,900 --> 01:25:56,500
I think even Bigfoot is like one
of these creatures that just

1434
01:25:56,500 --> 01:25:59,900
doesn't quite exist in this
Dimension, you know?

1435
01:25:59,900 --> 01:26:03,800
And that's why it's so evasive.
So maybe these meet maybe Dogs

1436
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:06,300
were just aware of this in some
kind of way and they're like,

1437
01:26:06,300 --> 01:26:07,900
because dogs are go after Bears,
dude.

1438
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:11,100
Dogs go out for beers, you know,
they'll chase a freaking

1439
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:13,900
mountain lion you know like
they're not some of them were

1440
01:26:13,900 --> 01:26:15,800
afraid right?
But some dogs aren't and if

1441
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,700
you're a Rancher you got dogs
that aren't scared.

1442
01:26:18,100 --> 01:26:22,800
So maybe they're just like whoa.
This is some otherworldly shit.

1443
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,700
That's true.
Yeah, I had reason Ridgebacks

1444
01:26:26,700 --> 01:26:30,300
African lion hounds like
literally made to hunt lions and

1445
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:33,200
stuff or bread.
So yeah, you're right or her

1446
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:38,300
Something has asserted its
dominance over the dogs.

1447
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,400
Could ya?
I am pack leader.

1448
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:48,600
You stand down mean, like
something mounted, a dog.

1449
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,900
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe most of these beings are

1450
01:26:53,900 --> 01:26:57,100
millions of years old and dogs
have evolved knowing that these

1451
01:26:57,100 --> 01:26:59,500
things have existed in their
just terrified of them from

1452
01:26:59,500 --> 01:27:06,900
genetic memories.
I love you, Jeff Wes, you're

1453
01:27:06,900 --> 01:27:12,400
right, man.
Yeah, I think, I think that dogs

1454
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,800
are just more sensitive to
things happening around them.

1455
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:19,700
Most animals are very sensitive
to their environment.

1456
01:27:19,700 --> 01:27:23,500
You know, whether it's you know
Birds freaking.

1457
01:27:24,300 --> 01:27:27,700
I don't know, just any any wild
animal they almost it's almost

1458
01:27:27,700 --> 01:27:31,400
like they have a sixth sense
when it comes to just crazy shit

1459
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:35,300
happening, you know?
It put a lot of places where

1460
01:27:35,300 --> 01:27:38,000
like volcanoes are about to
erupt or whatever out of

1461
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,000
nowhere.
You know, animals are fleeing

1462
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:45,800
the area beforehand, you know.
There's just multiple examples

1463
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:48,100
of things like that happening.
I think that's why the dogs are

1464
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:50,100
just going nuts because they're
just like, there's something out

1465
01:27:50,100 --> 01:27:53,500
there.
And they don't like it, you

1466
01:27:53,500 --> 01:28:00,200
know, they feel as a threat and,
you know, so far this presence

1467
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:03,400
on the ranch has shown itself to
be a threat to them, you know.

1468
01:28:04,300 --> 01:28:08,300
So yeah.
That's my, that's my thoughts

1469
01:28:08,300 --> 01:28:09,600
on.
Why the dogs going nuts?

1470
01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:16,700
I agree with Wes, you know,
animals, you know, whether their

1471
01:28:16,700 --> 01:28:21,100
household pets or birds or
whatever it is act.

1472
01:28:21,500 --> 01:28:25,900
Attic and flee when it comes to
weather events, you know,

1473
01:28:25,900 --> 01:28:30,200
hurricanes tornadoes natural,
occurring, events, if we're to

1474
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:36,400
assume that, it's because of the
change in like magnetic fields

1475
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:40,000
or something like that.
And this property is just

1476
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,100
pulsating that crap just
constantly, right?

1477
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:47,400
And constantly having some sort
of a natural or other than

1478
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,700
natural occurrence on it, where
it's just emitting all this

1479
01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:52,900
energy and Radiation and stuff
like that.

1480
01:28:52,900 --> 01:28:55,000
Like we've seen on the show,
right where they have all the

1481
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,200
beams and stuff and they have a
focal point and everything.

1482
01:28:57,700 --> 01:29:02,600
Then the dogs acting erratic
could have really nothing to do

1483
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,900
with any sort of beings on the
thing.

1484
01:29:05,100 --> 01:29:09,500
It could be just simply because
maybe they're trapped on a, they

1485
01:29:09,500 --> 01:29:12,700
have this desire to flee and you
escape, but they're trapped

1486
01:29:12,700 --> 01:29:16,200
because there's at some point
fences around their location.

1487
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:20,200
There's nowhere to go to escape
this, you know, impending doom.

1488
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:24,100
That they seem to All animals
seem to sense that we're just

1489
01:29:24,100 --> 01:29:27,600
completely dumb too.
Mmm.

1490
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,000
Yeah.
Yeah, Wes.

1491
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:32,700
I think hit it pretty well.
Animals.

1492
01:29:32,700 --> 01:29:35,300
Know, better, simple as that
right.

1493
01:29:35,900 --> 01:29:38,900
We don't know.
Yeah, we're dumb idiots.

1494
01:29:38,900 --> 01:29:42,500
Yeah I just morons just standing
around looking at the tornado.

1495
01:29:42,500 --> 01:29:44,900
Like Wow.
Let's Take a Selfie West is like

1496
01:29:44,900 --> 01:29:47,300
I could have done a better job
at this guy sucks.

1497
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,400
The entire there was she right
now?

1498
01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,300
I'm all right.
Oof.

1499
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,200
Sure.
Yep.

1500
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:01,400
All right man, I love you.
Okay, thank you Father.

1501
01:30:03,500 --> 01:30:07,500
Alright, another magnetic,
anomaly the day.

1502
01:30:07,500 --> 01:30:10,800
Immediately after the bowls were
stuffed into a locked trailer

1503
01:30:11,100 --> 01:30:14,100
and the same day that the needs
crew showed up to investigate,

1504
01:30:14,100 --> 01:30:18,300
how the bowls completed, such a
feat, the Sherman's witness,

1505
01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:22,100
another strange event as Terry
and Gwen Sherman were driving

1506
01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:24,700
around the ranch, doing their
daily checks on all of the

1507
01:30:24,700 --> 01:30:28,700
animals, they notice one cow
standing in front of a light

1508
01:30:28,700 --> 01:30:33,200
blue Look on the edge of a tree
line staring into the trees.

1509
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:37,700
They watched as the animal began
backing away slowly towards the

1510
01:30:37,708 --> 01:30:40,700
rest of the herd out of the
corner of Terry's.

1511
01:30:40,700 --> 01:30:44,100
I a compass that he began
carrying on him as a way to tell

1512
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:47,800
that there was an entity around
began to point in the direction

1513
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:52,300
of the cows stare as the lone
cowboy joined in with the

1514
01:30:52,300 --> 01:30:55,400
others, they all began to split
into two groups.

1515
01:30:56,000 --> 01:31:00,100
One moving West, one moving East
as if There were a school of

1516
01:31:00,100 --> 01:31:06,300
fish moving swimming away, fish
swimming away from a shark.

1517
01:31:06,500 --> 01:31:10,100
That chose the swim on through
the compass continued to follow

1518
01:31:10,100 --> 01:31:14,100
whatever was forcing the herd to
split the Sherman's continued to

1519
01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:17,900
watch The Herd and the compass
and track whatever was bothering

1520
01:31:17,900 --> 01:31:22,300
to cattle for 11 minutes but it
simply continued on pasta heard

1521
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:23,900
and the compass went back to
normal.

1522
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,800
This story was passed down to
the ninja team for both Terry

1523
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,700
and Gwen as the hole.
Crew went back to the trailer

1524
01:31:30,700 --> 01:31:33,400
for the night after
investigating the bowls and

1525
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:38,600
noticing that the dogs were once
again scared and silent.

1526
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,100
So, I was short one.
What do you guys think?

1527
01:31:44,300 --> 01:31:48,200
Same thing?
Like I was invisible creatures,

1528
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:51,200
man.
You know, they're not quite

1529
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,400
here.
Yeah, they're like Predators.

1530
01:31:54,100 --> 01:31:57,200
They're not quite in this
Dimension but maybe they just

1531
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:04,300
kind of can somehow, you know,
I'll be honest when I was, you

1532
01:32:04,300 --> 01:32:09,100
know, in every instance that I
read about this, or listen to it

1533
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:14,100
in the hunt for a skinwalker, my
first take was what made him

1534
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:18,100
instantly go for the compass
that just seemed out of.

1535
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,200
Hmm, I don't know, it was just
like, what, why would he think

1536
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,300
the do that first?
But then, you know, for all I

1537
01:32:25,300 --> 01:32:28,900
know he he seems like a very
smart guy, you know?

1538
01:32:30,200 --> 01:32:32,800
You know, he's Ranch smart, but
like, things like this happening

1539
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,300
are things that don't happen to,
to, even the average person, you

1540
01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:40,200
know, having these kind of
phenomenon and weird things

1541
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:43,100
happening.
Maybe at some point, he noticed

1542
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:49,000
that, you know, there was
magnetic anomalies, you know, I

1543
01:32:49,008 --> 01:32:52,300
don't know, and he just kept the
compass around, from there on

1544
01:32:52,300 --> 01:32:56,700
out, you know, but maybe think.
Okay, he just put two and two

1545
01:32:56,700 --> 01:32:59,900
together whenever stuff happens.
I can kind of see the direction.

1546
01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:03,100
It's at, you know, I think that
it might be something as simple

1547
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:07,600
as that but it is pretty wild.
That Not only was he able to

1548
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,300
see?
I was Compass but you know like

1549
01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:13,800
you said it was just like a
school of fish parting for the

1550
01:33:13,808 --> 01:33:16,100
Predator like a shark or
something, I'm swimming through

1551
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,900
and you know, I don't know for
all, we know this could be a

1552
01:33:20,907 --> 01:33:24,800
real creature that you just
can't see in in the spectrum of

1553
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,700
light that we as humans are able
to see for all we know.

1554
01:33:27,700 --> 01:33:30,600
Yeah, I don't know.
So you should Have been here for

1555
01:33:30,600 --> 01:33:34,500
the Carter Bush heart episode.
It was Bigfoot simple as that.

1556
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:41,500
We saw this in the put it out.
We saw this in the in the show

1557
01:33:41,500 --> 01:33:45,500
too, like all the cows grouping
together scared like they were

1558
01:33:45,500 --> 01:33:48,600
packing in so tight that there
then fighting and ramming into

1559
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,600
each other and they're all
freaking out and stuff.

1560
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:53,000
Wasn't that the same time that
they saw that UFO?

1561
01:33:53,900 --> 01:33:58,000
It's not like right above them.
Yeah, I've seen a couple of UFOs

1562
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:00,600
in that show.
I haven't watched the show and

1563
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,100
probably over a year, but it's
just like, you know.

1564
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:06,600
So I'm glad that they at least
brought it up or that you

1565
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:11,000
brought it up in this, because I
thought that was strange, right?

1566
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:12,900
That's one of those things from
that show where I'm just like,

1567
01:34:12,900 --> 01:34:15,700
why are they doing that?
You know, if this is all, you

1568
01:34:15,700 --> 01:34:20,300
know, hokey and fake and stuff,
that all the cows were bunching

1569
01:34:20,300 --> 01:34:23,000
up together.
And, and fighting and, you know,

1570
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,000
going crazy and stuff, then then
they saw the UFO above it.

1571
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:32,400
So yeah, but I guess my opinion
on it Remains the Same that I

1572
01:34:32,407 --> 01:34:39,400
think that it's a response to a
magnetic or some sort of a

1573
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:45,900
frequency anomaly versus a
creature or interdimensional

1574
01:34:45,900 --> 01:34:48,700
type being something like that.
You know.

1575
01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:50,600
Yeah.
Why not?

1576
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:52,700
I mean, you believe in demons,
right?

1577
01:34:52,700 --> 01:34:54,000
Jake.
Yeah.

1578
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,200
That's the same would say that.
You can say that humans are

1579
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:58,800
interdimensional.
That's exactly what I thought.

1580
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:02,000
It's the same playing, right?
It's the same, it's the same

1581
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,100
plane.
Except one of them is visible on

1582
01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:05,900
one of them is invisible right,
right.

1583
01:35:05,900 --> 01:35:08,500
You could call them frequencies.
Yeah.

1584
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:11,100
And it's the same thing as what
West was saying, with not being

1585
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:13,200
able to see them because they're
in a different light with light

1586
01:35:13,200 --> 01:35:16,500
frequency, maybe they just exist
in like a different frequency

1587
01:35:16,500 --> 01:35:17,800
band.
That's why the scientists

1588
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,400
couldn't see anything with all
their equipment and shit either,

1589
01:35:20,700 --> 01:35:22,700
right?
So maybe it's just on a wire,

1590
01:35:22,700 --> 01:35:25,400
they frequency that we just
don't even know about but they

1591
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:27,100
have the ability to kind of
phase in and out.

1592
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,200
That's why people see them once
in a while.

1593
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,100
But why are they grouped in that
area?

1594
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:39,300
Then the Earth is covered in
spotted in all kinds of places

1595
01:35:39,300 --> 01:35:42,300
that were considered portals to
other dimensions by ancient

1596
01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:44,000
cultures all over the planet,
you know.

1597
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,900
So it's like maybe this is just
one of them.

1598
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,400
Maybe there are just a spice.
The threshold is thinnest.

1599
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:51,600
Right?
What's that thing that you

1600
01:35:51,608 --> 01:35:55,300
always talk about the Ley lines?
Yeah, like Ley lines and shit.

1601
01:35:55,300 --> 01:35:56,400
Yeah.
Is there a walker?

1602
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,600
Wear a trench intersection here?
Yep.

1603
01:35:58,600 --> 01:35:59,800
It's on a Ley line.
Look at that.

1604
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:00,400
Perfect.
Boom.

1605
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:03,300
Right on a fucking game over.
Shut it down.

1606
01:36:03,300 --> 01:36:06,400
We're done.
I'm home now.

1607
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:10,600
What's that?
Smell is the smell sulfur.

1608
01:36:11,900 --> 01:36:14,100
Jake Jake's following on with my
notes.

1609
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:18,700
No I wanted to take a step back
and kind of comment on or

1610
01:36:18,700 --> 01:36:20,300
piggyback.
I'm a piggyback off of West

1611
01:36:20,300 --> 01:36:21,800
here.
No, don't do that.

1612
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:27,500
Yeah, something you back in.
So What West was talking about

1613
01:36:27,500 --> 01:36:29,600
for the listeners.
If you haven't read this book

1614
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:34,000
before I remember specifically
in this book, it the way that

1615
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:38,500
they had brought the compass
into the story was very

1616
01:36:38,500 --> 01:36:41,300
matter-of-fact.
It was just like, oh and then,

1617
01:36:41,300 --> 01:36:43,000
no way.
Yeah, you just like grab the

1618
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:44,500
compass.
He was like, oh wait, there's

1619
01:36:44,500 --> 01:36:47,200
something right there.
Let me grab a compass, right?

1620
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:51,900
I know, it's really weird.
I think it was in this bar right

1621
01:36:51,900 --> 01:36:55,500
here, baby.
Come on Tom, and you really need

1622
01:36:55,700 --> 01:36:57,200
Find your direction on your own
ranch.

1623
01:36:57,200 --> 01:36:57,900
Come on.
Stop it.

1624
01:36:57,900 --> 01:37:00,700
Listen, if you're an outdoorsy
guy, right?

1625
01:37:00,700 --> 01:37:03,900
There's outdoorsy people and
part of their EDC is like a

1626
01:37:03,900 --> 01:37:09,700
compass and up naive and you
know gone and like a guy that

1627
01:37:09,700 --> 01:37:14,000
knows it walks at night, you
know, with no.

1628
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:18,900
Anyways maybe it's a size.
I believe it was in this book by

1629
01:37:18,900 --> 01:37:23,000
Conrad Bauer.
I could be wrong, but I believe

1630
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:25,500
it was in this book where they
actually do Vin to.

1631
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:30,100
To the compass a little bit more
and explained that it was due to

1632
01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:34,900
him just like West was saying as
he was, you know, trying to make

1633
01:37:34,900 --> 01:37:40,100
sense of the compass.
Wes is right, it was due to one

1634
01:37:40,100 --> 01:37:44,300
anomaly that was magnetic and he
was like, you know, I know that

1635
01:37:44,300 --> 01:37:48,400
compasses act strange to Madness
and started carrying a compass

1636
01:37:48,700 --> 01:37:53,600
as a primitive tool to be used
instead of more modern ones like

1637
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:57,300
video cameras too.
Try to capture evidence of an

1638
01:37:57,300 --> 01:38:01,200
anomaly.
So that answers that hunt for

1639
01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:04,400
the skinwalkers, great book, but
they did a piss-poor job for him

1640
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:10,000
to compass into the story.
Um, so just wanted to clear that

1641
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:10,900
up.
All right.

1642
01:38:10,900 --> 01:38:12,300
Good to go guys.
Ready to find out what that

1643
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:14,200
smell is Jake.
Yeah.

1644
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:17,800
What's that smell?
This is actually probably my

1645
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:21,000
shortest section in this entire
Series.

1646
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:22,500
So we'll Breeze through this
real quick.

1647
01:38:22,500 --> 01:38:25,300
Two days went by without
anything happening.

1648
01:38:25,300 --> 01:38:26,100
All right?
We're all done.

1649
01:38:28,700 --> 01:38:31,400
No, I'm just kidding.
I wish we had a sound clip of

1650
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:37,700
that smell just for that moment.
What's that smell two days went

1651
01:38:37,700 --> 01:38:40,500
by without anything happening,
but on the third day, when the

1652
01:38:40,500 --> 01:38:45,900
team was taking plaster casts,
there, it is of strange prints

1653
01:38:45,900 --> 01:38:49,100
on the ground, a horrible
stench, filled the air and

1654
01:38:49,100 --> 01:38:52,100
members of the team claimed to
feel the hair on the back of

1655
01:38:52,100 --> 01:38:56,000
their neck stand up Kelleher
claimed that this was one of the

1656
01:38:56,000 --> 01:39:00,000
few times during his Time on the
ranch that he felt immediately

1657
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,600
threatened.
Nobody on and his team saw

1658
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:05,500
thing.
But Terry would later claim that

1659
01:39:05,500 --> 01:39:08,700
the same smell has been around
plenty of times during his days

1660
01:39:08,700 --> 01:39:12,400
on the ranch often, it is
followed up by an event.

1661
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,700
Nothing came that particular
night, but this would not be the

1662
01:39:15,700 --> 01:39:19,100
last run-in.
Let would not be the last

1663
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:21,100
running with this horrible
smell.

1664
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,200
There would be times in a
future, that smell would come

1665
01:39:23,200 --> 01:39:27,600
and stronger and even inside of
the Each trailer.

1666
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:29,800
So that's it.
We actually don't talk about the

1667
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,700
smell anymore like Brimstone to
me.

1668
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:38,800
Oh, well, so cover and you're
talking about specifically the

1669
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:41,200
when the kids were small and it,
right?

1670
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:45,300
Yeah.
Because the podcast at first

1671
01:39:45,300 --> 01:39:49,100
listen to the first person I
ever listened to it or heard

1672
01:39:49,100 --> 01:39:51,500
anything about Skinwalker Ranch
with do another podcast listen

1673
01:39:51,500 --> 01:39:55,200
to and they crack me up.
It was probably one of my

1674
01:39:55,200 --> 01:39:57,400
favorite parts of that episode
particular episode, they're

1675
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:00,300
talking about the smell and how
it suddenly appeared in their

1676
01:40:00,300 --> 01:40:05,600
research trailer.
And when I was like, oh yeah,

1677
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:07,300
you told me all these
researchers are sitting in here

1678
01:40:07,300 --> 01:40:10,000
for hours eating junk food.
What not forgetting.

1679
01:40:10,300 --> 01:40:12,400
Something like smell didn't
appear out of nowhere.

1680
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:18,100
We're at the bowling and
suddenly smell a terrible smell.

1681
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:21,800
What is that?
I think it's pretty easy to

1682
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:26,000
solve where that one came from.
You know, that's funny, that's

1683
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:32,000
hilarious, because they're, he's
like, oh yeah, I've smelled that

1684
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:42,100
before.
We're just blowing it up.

1685
01:40:42,100 --> 01:40:46,100
Yeah.
Good one, good one?

1686
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:50,100
Yeah, that movie.
Yeah, I didn't catch that, but

1687
01:40:50,100 --> 01:40:56,400
yeah, it was probably just fart.
Yeah, they brought they brought

1688
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,800
it up in that and like, there's
moments and that, that they say,

1689
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:01,900
the, what?
Wowed, off-the-wall shit in

1690
01:41:01,900 --> 01:41:03,400
that.
Just like, caught me off guard.

1691
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:07,600
And I was, I was dying laughing.
Oh man, but I mean, I was like,

1692
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,700
man that's that's that's a
pretty simple explanation to

1693
01:41:10,700 --> 01:41:13,000
that.
I feel like Don't know.

1694
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:19,300
You know, it's funny as I wonder
if researchers that write books

1695
01:41:19,300 --> 01:41:24,300
and even hunt for the skinwalker
in that book came across the

1696
01:41:24,300 --> 01:41:29,000
same conclusion because it is so
briefly talked about in every

1697
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:32,400
book like it happened in a short
period, right?

1698
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:35,500
And then it was there and it was
gone and that was this Gone With

1699
01:41:35,500 --> 01:41:44,100
the Wind after the most
Aggressive pot of chili that

1700
01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:50,600
everyone had ever eaten.
A ominous smell wafted through

1701
01:41:50,600 --> 01:41:54,300
the trailer.
You don't say, I want to claimed

1702
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:58,800
ownership because indeed,
whoever smelt it had dealt it.

1703
01:42:02,900 --> 01:42:07,900
Oh, that's a good theory
problem.

1704
01:42:07,900 --> 01:42:11,700
Solved that mystery of
Skinwalker Ranch the longer

1705
01:42:11,700 --> 01:42:13,500
mystery.
Yep.

1706
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:19,000
The only only the people who are
downwind of Terry Sherman

1707
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:20,200
smelled.
That smell.

1708
01:42:20,900 --> 01:42:24,500
It's right.
All right, all right, moving on,

1709
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:29,400
not much to talk about there.
We are watching you.

1710
01:42:31,100 --> 01:42:34,200
Quote, there's a huge black
thing in the trees, just in

1711
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:36,000
front of us.
It's moving North.

1712
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:40,100
This is what one of the Ned's
member said as a team was staked

1713
01:42:40,100 --> 01:42:42,200
out, one night in response to
viewing.

1714
01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:46,500
A large creature through the
night vision goggles, aloof the

1715
01:42:46,500 --> 01:42:49,700
men and dog stood up and gazed
at the tree line.

1716
01:42:50,100 --> 01:42:54,300
The researcher is pointing at
the investigator who spotted the

1717
01:42:54,300 --> 01:42:58,000
creature continue to point out,
that, whatever it was it was

1718
01:42:58,000 --> 01:43:02,400
huge and that he couldn't tell
if it was in front Behind or in

1719
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,600
the tree line but whatever it
was it was blocking out the

1720
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:09,300
stars as it walked.
When the same man seemed to stop

1721
01:43:09,300 --> 01:43:15,800
moving completely and said in a
calm voice quote we are watching

1722
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,700
you.
Then whenever it was the man

1723
01:43:19,700 --> 01:43:23,900
continued to say that it was
shrinking and that it was gone.

1724
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:28,000
When asked to elaborate on what
he witnessed the man told the

1725
01:43:28,008 --> 01:43:31,600
crew that whatever it was it was
physical as he witnessed the

1726
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:35,700
stars behind it disappear and
reappear as it moved and talk to

1727
01:43:35,700 --> 01:43:40,200
him in his mind and let me know
that they were watching us.

1728
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,900
And when it did I literally
could not stop myself from

1729
01:43:43,900 --> 01:43:49,000
repeating beings exactly what it
was saying to me bro.

1730
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,000
That's that Bigfoot.
Mind speak, that's the Bigfoot -

1731
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:54,100
speak.
That's what Carter Bush heart

1732
01:43:54,100 --> 01:43:55,900
talks about, right?
Your mind speak.

1733
01:43:58,000 --> 01:43:59,300
Jeff.
You were in that episode with

1734
01:43:59,300 --> 01:44:04,200
us, right?
Yeah, I was and yes, that's

1735
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:05,600
interesting.
I like this.

1736
01:44:06,700 --> 01:44:09,100
Yep.
Cool.

1737
01:44:09,500 --> 01:44:10,900
Telepathic it were you with us
done?

1738
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,800
I hope not.
I was long time ago.

1739
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,300
Those are good episodes, if
everybody's wanting to dive into

1740
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:23,700
paranormal Bigfoot stuff, you
know, the woo side of Bigfoot.

1741
01:44:23,700 --> 01:44:27,500
Check out our interviews with
Carter Bush heart, who is a

1742
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:35,300
Quantum Bigfoot researcher?
He's done work with Ron Morehead

1743
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:39,900
done, some really good stuff.
Has to awesome book. out books

1744
01:44:39,900 --> 01:44:43,900
that he personally filled with
photos taken from his own

1745
01:44:43,900 --> 01:44:48,000
investigation, stories from his
investigations and stories of

1746
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:54,400
other other people's stories
that have come to him to get his

1747
01:44:54,700 --> 01:45:01,000
theories and and Takes on what
could be possibly happened.

1748
01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:04,900
There was one particular one
about a Sasquatch.

1749
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:10,000
What if I'm not, if I'm
remembering correctly, Jake, it

1750
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:14,400
was a mouse, right?
There's a Bigfoot mouse and a

1751
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:18,400
big, like bundle of sticks or
something or like a bomb fire

1752
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:21,500
pit, right?
Remember that?

1753
01:45:22,400 --> 01:45:25,900
It was insane.
Now, I don't know, I'd have to

1754
01:45:25,907 --> 01:45:28,100
go back and listen.
It was a long time ago, man

1755
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,400
learning.
It could have been a couple

1756
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,800
months ago, we have so many
episodes in between that it's

1757
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:38,000
hard to keep track you know,
true true like well like we said

1758
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:42,600
before, a lot of this stuff man
we just have to we have to dump

1759
01:45:42,900 --> 01:45:44,900
just so we can make room for the
next thing.

1760
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,800
All right, let's move on.
Anybody else have anything to

1761
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,100
say before we move on to the
next bit?

1762
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,500
Nope.
Okay, let's talk about this

1763
01:45:55,500 --> 01:45:59,700
smudge again.
On the night of August 25th,

1764
01:45:59,700 --> 01:46:04,600
1997 to scientists would
Bigelow's need steam were six

1765
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:08,200
hours into a Stakeout on one of
the observation decks.

1766
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:12,200
When one of the team members
notice in orange, glow out in

1767
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,900
the distance, what they
originally thought to be

1768
01:46:14,900 --> 01:46:19,300
reflection of some sort slowly
grew in the two men, the two man

1769
01:46:19,300 --> 01:46:22,600
team became much more interested
in the anomaly.

1770
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:26,600
Once the orange light grew to
about a foot wide, one of the

1771
01:46:26,700 --> 01:46:29,900
Researchers handed the other.
The only pair of night-vision

1772
01:46:29,900 --> 01:46:34,000
goggles amongst the two and
quickly began setting up a

1773
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,700
time-lapse shutter camera to
attempt to get the orange light

1774
01:46:37,700 --> 01:46:39,900
on film.
Now, I want to make a correction

1775
01:46:39,900 --> 01:46:42,800
here, it was, they were not
goggles, they were binoculars,

1776
01:46:43,300 --> 01:46:47,600
just wanted to correct that.
As one investigator was setting

1777
01:46:47,600 --> 01:46:50,500
up the camera.
The other man yelled something

1778
01:46:50,700 --> 01:46:54,000
is in the tunnel.
The tunnel began to grow even

1779
01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,000
larger in the man, with the
binoculars begin to Drive a

1780
01:46:57,008 --> 01:47:02,000
large dark, no faced bipedal
creature climbing out of the

1781
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,400
light, the same man would later
describe that.

1782
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,300
While looking through the night
vision, binoculars, the orange

1783
01:47:09,300 --> 01:47:13,500
light seemed to look more like a
three-dimensional tunnel.

1784
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:17,600
The other man could not see the
creature coming out of the light

1785
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:22,000
and never saw a tunnel without
the binoculars that the other

1786
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,600
was using.
But he was able to witness the

1787
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:26,600
light growing to the size of
about 2 feet.

1788
01:47:26,700 --> 01:47:29,500
In diameter before beginning to
shrink back to nothing.

1789
01:47:29,900 --> 01:47:33,000
The investigator with the
binoculars described a roughly

1790
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:36,000
six foot four hundred pound all
black creature with a

1791
01:47:36,008 --> 01:47:40,400
distinguishable face while
without a distinguishable face

1792
01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:44,700
standing in front of the tunnel.
It crawled out before walking

1793
01:47:44,700 --> 01:47:47,100
off and eluding, the
researchers, the rest of the

1794
01:47:47,100 --> 01:47:50,100
night.
Unfortunately, for the team, all

1795
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:52,800
of the equipment around the
ranch failed to capture anything

1796
01:47:52,800 --> 01:47:58,000
abnormal, it camera set to take
a photo every 30 seconds in that

1797
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:01,500
general direction as well as
measurement tools used for

1798
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:05,400
capturing data on, x-rays gamma
rays beta rays and infrared

1799
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,700
lighting.
All failed to capture evidence

1800
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:12,700
of the two investigators claims.
The only physical evidence from

1801
01:48:12,700 --> 01:48:17,100
that night, is a single photo
that shows what seems to be a

1802
01:48:17,100 --> 01:48:20,500
very faint light source.
The picture was taken with a

1803
01:48:20,500 --> 01:48:24,300
90-second shutter from the
camera used by the man that was

1804
01:48:24,300 --> 01:48:28,900
not used in the binoculars at A
later date, the needs team would

1805
01:48:28,900 --> 01:48:33,600
have another strange event, and
with another orange portal this

1806
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,000
time, the team would be hot on
the trail of the bigfoot-like

1807
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:40,400
creature on the outskirts of the
ranch, just as a team, felt like

1808
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:43,200
they had the creature corner and
we're on the verge of making a

1809
01:48:43,200 --> 01:48:46,500
gigantic Discovery.
One of these orange portals

1810
01:48:46,500 --> 01:48:50,300
appeared in the bipedal creature
walkthrough before, collapsing,

1811
01:48:50,300 --> 01:48:55,200
on itself and disappearing.
Unlike in previous episode, or

1812
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:56,600
in the previous episode, I've
included.

1813
01:48:56,700 --> 01:48:59,700
Another story of an orange
smudge showing up in other parts

1814
01:48:59,700 --> 01:49:00,700
of world.
You guys are going to love this

1815
01:49:00,700 --> 01:49:03,100
one, because we talked about
this briefly in another episode.

1816
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,900
This event is much more famous
than the one from the last

1817
01:49:06,900 --> 01:49:08,400
episode about a small-time
farmer.

1818
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:12,100
In Wisconsin, this time, we are
heading to Malmstrom Air Force

1819
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:16,100
Base in Montana, where a 1975 in
orange light was seen over.

1820
01:49:16,100 --> 01:49:18,700
The base is heavily, guarded,
nuclear missile, silos.

1821
01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,100
A group of fighter jets were
dispatched in the bright,

1822
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:23,700
orange, light raised higher,
into the sky until is no longer

1823
01:49:23,700 --> 01:49:26,900
visible.
Then the event was over the

1824
01:49:26,907 --> 01:49:30,100
nuclear codes are I'm sorry.
When the event was over the

1825
01:49:30,100 --> 01:49:32,500
nuclear codes for the missiles
and the silos were change and

1826
01:49:32,500 --> 01:49:36,600
within a few weeks for other
nuclear bases along the u.s. and

1827
01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,800
Canadian border which suffer the
similar events.

1828
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:42,600
This event at Malmstrom Air
Force Base has been verified via

1829
01:49:42,600 --> 01:49:46,300
the Freedom of Information Act
and on a public Congressional

1830
01:49:46,300 --> 01:49:52,300
hearing on UFOs and you APS and
May 17th of 2022.

1831
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:56,100
Good tie-in.
Right, love it.

1832
01:49:58,300 --> 01:50:04,400
And we just talked about that
during that damn Congressional

1833
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:06,500
hearing.
We had a special where we talked

1834
01:50:06,500 --> 01:50:10,000
about it because it was brought
up in that Congress Channel,

1835
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:13,600
hearing the, the public one.
At least I'm sure it was brought

1836
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:18,700
on by 12 where they had talked
about this particular thing.

1837
01:50:19,000 --> 01:50:22,500
And the people who were being
questioned by Congress about it

1838
01:50:22,800 --> 01:50:25,600
didn't know anything about it.
So I did like they had no idea

1839
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:27,900
like what never heard of that
before their eyes.

1840
01:50:28,100 --> 01:50:32,600
Really it's verified via Freedom
of Information Act.

1841
01:50:32,600 --> 01:50:36,600
The biggest event ever happened
on us soil or, you know,

1842
01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:40,900
documented on us soil, via UFO
or you AP or whatever the fuck

1843
01:50:40,900 --> 01:50:42,600
you want to call them.
You know nothing.

1844
01:50:42,900 --> 01:50:48,000
Come on Chuckles.
Yeah, bullshit, just say, we'll

1845
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,700
talk about it in the privately
story.

1846
01:50:53,900 --> 01:50:56,500
I don't think they do but I was
talking about portals man they

1847
01:50:56,500 --> 01:50:58,600
were you know They.
Yeah.

1848
01:50:59,100 --> 01:51:02,300
So there you go man.
Maybe they really are some,

1849
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:08,400
their opening portals man.
I mean, dude, it's the whole

1850
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:11,500
reason we even can conceive that
idea.

1851
01:51:11,500 --> 01:51:13,400
I feel like it's just my belief,
right?

1852
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:17,600
Is because there's some reason
that thought exists, like we

1853
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:21,600
must have experienced something
along the way that has embedded

1854
01:51:21,600 --> 01:51:24,500
itself, so that we can come up
with something, right?

1855
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:29,200
So just like an idea of portals,
you see the Using games all the

1856
01:51:29,200 --> 01:51:31,700
time, right?
Where Portal opens and some

1857
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:34,400
beings come out that you've
never some aliens come through,

1858
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,100
right?
It's like, where does that idea

1859
01:51:37,100 --> 01:51:39,400
come from?
And it's like, well, maybe it

1860
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:43,400
comes from the fact that these
things have always been around.

1861
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:47,100
And you know we're just
constantly single, we just now

1862
01:51:47,100 --> 01:51:50,000
got the internet.
We just you know it really if

1863
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,700
you look at the grand scheme of
humanity we just now got like

1864
01:51:52,700 --> 01:51:59,700
radio You know, so and podcasts
podcasts, you know, but even if

1865
01:51:59,700 --> 01:52:02,300
you go back a couple hundred
years, you know, you got

1866
01:52:02,300 --> 01:52:04,300
nothing.
So this could have been

1867
01:52:04,300 --> 01:52:07,400
happening forever and we're just
now talking about like you know,

1868
01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:11,200
this is portals of these
invisible dog like creature

1869
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:14,600
beings that come through and eat
shit.

1870
01:52:15,700 --> 01:52:19,700
Yeah, the anuses out of care.
How terrifying is that dude?

1871
01:52:19,700 --> 01:52:23,000
What if they're just probing,
what if they're just probing

1872
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:27,900
like See where we're at this.
Try to see which things like

1873
01:52:27,900 --> 01:52:29,800
things, shoved up their asshole
and what doesn't?

1874
01:52:29,900 --> 01:52:34,600
And once every twenty seven
thousand years, right?

1875
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:38,100
Like the just the portals open
everywhere and it's just armies

1876
01:52:38,100 --> 01:52:44,700
of invisible, dog men.
Yep, cows great own.

1877
01:52:44,700 --> 01:52:49,200
I mean they like it dogs don't
really care for people or

1878
01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:53,000
whatever Some Like It some don't
Bears don't like it.

1879
01:52:56,700 --> 01:52:59,000
All right, let's move on ready?
Yep.

1880
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:06,200
Hyena or uh Nina in July of
1999, Terry, and Gwen Sherman.

1881
01:53:06,200 --> 01:53:08,900
We're heading back onto the
ranch when they noticed that

1882
01:53:08,900 --> 01:53:12,300
their horses were running scared
and causing a dust cloud to

1883
01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:14,900
form.
In one of the Corrals as the

1884
01:53:14,900 --> 01:53:17,600
Sherman's approach, they saw a
reddish brown fur, covered

1885
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:20,800
animal running on all fours,
hurting and nipping at the

1886
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:25,900
horses Terry was pissed because
what he It was just a dog,

1887
01:53:25,900 --> 01:53:28,000
having fun was not funded a
horses.

1888
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:32,000
But as they got even closer when
commented that she didn't think

1889
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:34,900
that was a dog.
And she was right, what the

1890
01:53:34,900 --> 01:53:38,100
Sherman's described to have seen
that day was a very large and

1891
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:41,800
muscular hyena, like animal with
a rather Fox, like fluffy tail.

1892
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:45,000
It was very clear to the
Sherman's that this was no house

1893
01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:49,000
dog, fox coyote or wolf and that
they were fairly certain.

1894
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:53,300
This was not a hyena either but
that is exactly what they said

1895
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,700
it best resembled.
Old very Loosely as they

1896
01:53:56,700 --> 01:53:59,900
approach the animal as they
approach the animal quickly ran

1897
01:53:59,900 --> 01:54:01,800
away.
But left both of his horses

1898
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:06,700
bloody on their Hawks as a side
note, in addition to the siding

1899
01:54:06,700 --> 01:54:09,700
of a hyena, like animal, there
were a few other sightings of

1900
01:54:09,700 --> 01:54:13,000
such an animal post, 1999 in the
area.

1901
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,700
In one case, the witness was an
employee of the ranch and in

1902
01:54:16,700 --> 01:54:19,600
another, it was a resident of
the area, a few miles away.

1903
01:54:20,700 --> 01:54:24,100
Another creature that we have
talked about on this show in

1904
01:54:24,100 --> 01:54:27,600
this region of the u.s. is the
Shuka work in which we talked

1905
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:31,600
about for a little bit in the
Beast of Bray Road episode or

1906
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,600
series.
Actually, the Shuka work in is

1907
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,600
thought to have been a known
prehistoric relative of the

1908
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:39,600
hyena.
Typically refer to as a ring

1909
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:44,100
doukas that was black or dark
brown color, High, shoulders,

1910
01:54:44,100 --> 01:54:46,300
the back the slope down to its
hind quarters.

1911
01:54:46,700 --> 01:54:50,300
The creatures name to the ioa
natives shoot?

1912
01:54:50,500 --> 01:54:53,000
I work in means, carrying off
dogs.

1913
01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:55,600
There have been stories all
around the northern midwest

1914
01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:58,800
states of creatures, matching
the descriptions of the ring

1915
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:02,000
doukas in the bat, and the book
cryptozoology.

1916
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:06,200
A, to Z by Loren Coleman and
Jerome Clark, they reference a

1917
01:55:06,200 --> 01:55:09,300
cryptozoologist by the name of
Mark, a hall that has

1918
01:55:09,300 --> 01:55:13,300
documented, sightings of a quote
mean-looking, near wolf-like and

1919
01:55:13,300 --> 01:55:18,100
hyena, like animals from
Alberta, Nebraska, Iowa,

1920
01:55:18,100 --> 01:55:20,800
Illinois.
There is even a mouse, Outed

1921
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:25,300
Taxidermy re doukas in existence
and currently at the Madison

1922
01:55:25,300 --> 01:55:29,700
Valley, History Museum and is
owned by the Idaho Museum of

1923
01:55:29,700 --> 01:55:36,400
Natural History.
And I should have taken a cast

1924
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:42,000
of that footprint.
That's why she's smart if it

1925
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,500
looks awesome.
But you know what?

1926
01:55:43,500 --> 01:55:47,400
The sounds like, this sounds
like the show where the alpaca

1927
01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:50,100
got attacked.
Oh yeah.

1928
01:55:51,300 --> 01:55:55,000
When that be interesting.
Just like monks all the other

1929
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:59,600
stuff going on here.
They also have at least one.

1930
01:56:01,700 --> 01:56:05,200
Possibly non extinct Cryptid
that's running around in that

1931
01:56:05,200 --> 01:56:07,600
area.
Yeah it's like not saying that

1932
01:56:07,600 --> 01:56:11,100
those two things couldn't happen
at the same time but that is

1933
01:56:11,400 --> 01:56:14,600
that is pretty cool because.
Yeah absolutely sounds like they

1934
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:21,200
saw this thing which is new
enough to the extinction list

1935
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:26,000
that there's taxidermied remains
and stuff which could lead that

1936
01:56:26,000 --> 01:56:27,800
there could be a few of them.
Right.

1937
01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:29,400
Right.
So that's that's pretty cool.

1938
01:56:29,700 --> 01:56:32,000
Plus that area D does seem very
Remote.

1939
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:33,700
I was like looking at the
terrain and stuff.

1940
01:56:33,700 --> 01:56:35,600
I was like, I mean, it's like
perfect.

1941
01:56:36,100 --> 01:56:41,800
Well when you think of mesas
right or basins, such as the

1942
01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:46,500
Uintah Basin, the cave systems,
is something that is referenced

1943
01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:49,600
quite a bit.
You have to believe that there

1944
01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:51,800
are tons of them throughout that
area.

1945
01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:57,300
I mean, the ring doukas was, I
believe that the one that is in

1946
01:56:57,300 --> 01:57:00,200
Idaho on display was shot in
Illinois.

1947
01:57:01,500 --> 01:57:05,100
I could be wrong about that but
this was a creature that was

1948
01:57:05,100 --> 01:57:11,400
said to have been living around
the area as recent as during the

1949
01:57:11,500 --> 01:57:15,500
Native American, you know times
before, right?

1950
01:57:15,500 --> 01:57:20,000
But what Eastern world came
over.

1951
01:57:21,300 --> 01:57:27,100
So I mean, could could they have
one of these ring doukas has or

1952
01:57:27,400 --> 01:57:31,100
should go work in run around
Skinwalker Ranch or around the

1953
01:57:31,108 --> 01:57:33,100
area?
I think they could.

1954
01:57:37,000 --> 01:57:38,300
For sure.
That's awesome.

1955
01:57:38,900 --> 01:57:41,200
That's really cool.
Yeah, that's the first thing I

1956
01:57:41,208 --> 01:57:45,600
truly by, in this whole thing
probably just like, yeah, that

1957
01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:48,400
makes sense.
Are you guys ready to move them?

1958
01:57:49,900 --> 01:57:51,400
I am.
Yeah, we know, Jeff is.

1959
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,500
All right, moving on.
What about the locals?

1960
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,600
The needs team had many goals
when it came to the ranch.

1961
01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:01,400
One of those was the document
historical and recent sightings

1962
01:58:01,400 --> 01:58:04,700
from the locals, the local
youths and non-native residents

1963
01:58:04,700 --> 01:58:07,900
of the Basin came forward with
many stories of multiple colored

1964
01:58:07,900 --> 01:58:11,800
balls, light cattle.
Mutilations In a particular

1965
01:58:11,900 --> 01:58:16,600
triangular craft in one
particular story outlined in the

1966
01:58:16,608 --> 01:58:18,300
book.
Hunt for the skinwalker

1967
01:58:18,300 --> 01:58:20,300
Kelleher.
An app tell of mr.

1968
01:58:20,300 --> 01:58:23,800
Gonzalez, and the time he found,
one of his cows laying on the

1969
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:27,700
ground, with two broken legs in
a field that she should not have

1970
01:58:27,700 --> 01:58:32,400
been, he left her to go home and
get a blanket to cover in.

1971
01:58:32,700 --> 01:58:36,700
And on his way out, he checked
to see how she could have gotten

1972
01:58:36,700 --> 01:58:40,200
out of the pasture.
There were no broken or bent

1973
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:42,700
fence And all of the other
animals were accounted for

1974
01:58:42,700 --> 01:58:45,400
inside the gates.
As you return, five minutes

1975
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:49,700
later to the spot, he had left
her, she was gone later that

1976
01:58:49,700 --> 01:58:52,000
evening.
He happened to look out his

1977
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:55,700
window to see the cow 50 yards
away from her original position,

1978
01:58:56,200 --> 01:58:58,900
this time when he approached
sure, he saw that all four legs

1979
01:58:58,900 --> 01:59:02,100
were now snapped mr.
Gonzalez, made the decision to

1980
01:59:02,100 --> 01:59:04,700
put her out of her misery, but
the question of what happened to

1981
01:59:04,700 --> 01:59:06,000
her?
Still bothers him.

1982
01:59:06,300 --> 01:59:09,100
Another story highlighted by
Kelleher, nap.

1983
01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:13,000
Dean dear Hawk.
Or Derek was visiting his

1984
01:59:13,000 --> 01:59:16,500
uncle's house that board
Skinwalker Ranch in 1980, when

1985
01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:20,000
he witnessed his silver sphere
sitting on the ground Dean

1986
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:23,100
claims that the sphere was 30 to
40 feet wide and resembled an

1987
01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:29,100
upside-down Bowl, most stories
from the people in and around

1988
01:59:29,100 --> 01:59:32,500
the Yuan to Basin and with just
a sighting of something, they

1989
01:59:32,500 --> 01:59:35,200
cannot explain.
Unfortunately, to go over all

1990
01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:38,200
the stories in the strangeness
is that happen outside of

1991
01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:41,400
Skinwalker Ranch, but still
within the Unknown, this do you

1992
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:45,800
into Basin would take far too
long, but one thing is for

1993
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:49,400
certain the needs team easily
came to the conclusion that the

1994
01:59:49,400 --> 01:59:53,200
ranch did not hold a magical
invisible border, where

1995
01:59:53,200 --> 01:59:57,300
strangeness in the unknown.
Stop the entire Basin was the

1996
01:59:57,300 --> 02:00:01,900
home to a plethora of uncanny
activity.

1997
02:00:04,200 --> 02:00:07,800
Sweet.
I do have one last section.

1998
02:00:08,300 --> 02:00:10,000
Let me just go ahead and finish
it up real quick.

1999
02:00:11,600 --> 02:00:14,200
Yeah, sure.
Tie.

2000
02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:18,700
This bow.
By the end, there was not much

2001
02:00:18,700 --> 02:00:21,900
to show for the research.
The team had built many, small

2002
02:00:21,900 --> 02:00:25,400
observation, buildings and dog.
Housings, the team learned that

2003
02:00:25,400 --> 02:00:28,800
the dogs were the best alarm for
anything about to happen.

2004
02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:32,700
And the team felt like there was
so much left to uncover about

2005
02:00:32,700 --> 02:00:34,500
the mysteries of Skinwalker
Ranch.

2006
02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:38,600
On top of all, we talked about
today and in the past few

2007
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:41,400
episodes, there were some
instances that we did not talk

2008
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:45,100
about during this period
instances such as items going

2009
02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:49,400
missing within seconds to
someone Again down a 2,500-pound

2010
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:52,800
ditch digger was lost and found
of a tree damage to the inside

2011
02:00:52,800 --> 02:00:55,700
of buildings that were locked
strange, lights in the middle of

2012
02:00:55,700 --> 02:00:58,300
rainstorms.
And another magnetic anomaly

2013
02:00:58,300 --> 02:01:02,300
which seemed to be emanating
from Gwen Sherman until she

2014
02:01:02,300 --> 02:01:07,400
exited the trailer and it
disappeared, and as well, a one,

2015
02:01:07,400 --> 02:01:09,700
small Red, Orb, that attacked
cows horses.

2016
02:01:09,700 --> 02:01:13,100
And the Sherman's, son,
Skinwalker Ranch was not the

2017
02:01:13,100 --> 02:01:16,300
only place under the
investigation of the mids team.

2018
02:01:16,600 --> 02:01:19,700
The summer of 1997, the needs
team split their time between

2019
02:01:19,700 --> 02:01:25,200
the terms Ranch and the area
known around Dulce, New Mexico.

2020
02:01:25,600 --> 02:01:27,800
But more on that, in another
episode of the infinite Rabbit

2021
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:31,600
Hole, Robert Bigelow pulled the
plug on the mids research team

2022
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:35,800
in 2004 the grants from the
government for research dried up

2023
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:38,200
and we're never renewed.
There you go.

2024
02:01:38,200 --> 02:01:41,800
That's a big clue right there.
At least for me and I'm sure for

2025
02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:47,200
Jeffrey and for Jake for Wes and
forget money was no longer

2026
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:50,400
flowing in for Bigelow and he
simply lost interest in the

2027
02:01:50,407 --> 02:01:53,800
ranch, but that wasn't the end
for Robert Bigelow.

2028
02:01:54,600 --> 02:02:01,000
In fact, Immediately after
shutting down of research on

2029
02:02:01,000 --> 02:02:03,800
Skinwalker Ranch, Bigelow
Aerospace began to really blow

2030
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:07,700
up.
A contract with NASA was one for

2031
02:02:07,700 --> 02:02:11,800
the creation of special modules
for the International Space

2032
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:14,300
Station.
Another interesting contract,

2033
02:02:14,300 --> 02:02:18,800
the Bigelow was awarded, was for
a part of the pentagon's UFO

2034
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:23,400
study known as the advanced
Aviation threat initiative.

2035
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:31,500
AKA a vti in 2007, this program
was classified top secret, till

2036
02:02:31,700 --> 02:02:36,900
December 2017 and was founded to
have a Budget, 22 million

2037
02:02:36,900 --> 02:02:42,300
dollars between 2007 and 2012
for Bigelow Aerospace for their

2038
02:02:42,300 --> 02:02:45,800
contributions.
The end.

2039
02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:55,500
Mmm, good.
What about what about the

2040
02:02:55,500 --> 02:03:00,600
closets with the double locks?
That was from three Sherman's.

2041
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:05,600
That was from before this
restaurant answers.

2042
02:03:06,100 --> 02:03:09,900
Yeah, yeah.
There's a there's still a lot

2043
02:03:10,500 --> 02:03:13,200
that I want to know.
I would I would like to just go

2044
02:03:13,400 --> 02:03:15,300
let's just go.
Yeah.

2045
02:03:16,500 --> 02:03:20,500
Yeah well you say can't but you
know we're Sovereign citizens.

2046
02:03:20,500 --> 02:03:23,900
Let's just go right.
What's the problem?

2047
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:25,100
Sure.
Fuck it.

2048
02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:28,600
Let's do it.
I mean they stormed Area 51,

2049
02:03:28,600 --> 02:03:29,800
right?
We could do this.

2050
02:03:33,700 --> 02:03:37,500
Did they run by a private person
just trespassing?

2051
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:40,900
You know, just let them know.
Be like listen, hey man, we're

2052
02:03:40,900 --> 02:03:42,700
doing a podcast.
We want to come to research

2053
02:03:42,700 --> 02:03:44,500
team.
We're going to come, stay like

2054
02:03:44,500 --> 02:03:46,900
three nights, four nights hour.
We're going to camp out on the

2055
02:03:46,900 --> 02:03:48,500
ranch.
What's up?

2056
02:03:49,700 --> 02:03:51,100
Yeah, fuck it.
Go ahead.

2057
02:03:51,100 --> 02:03:53,900
You do, do the reaching out and
I'll take the time off work.

2058
02:03:56,100 --> 02:03:58,600
All right.
It's not.

2059
02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:02,100
I would love to we'll see you
would be really cool.

2060
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:05,700
You'll be surprised really cool.
I had Tommy Chong on my podcast.

2061
02:04:05,700 --> 02:04:12,100
Don't test me bro.
I'll get in touch and he was

2062
02:04:12,100 --> 02:04:14,900
supposed to get Tommy Chong for
our podcast to you, but he

2063
02:04:14,900 --> 02:04:18,600
doesn't love us.
I gave you the foot are there

2064
02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:22,100
more sections to this this
series?

2065
02:04:23,000 --> 02:04:29,300
Just the theories behind
Skinwalker Ranch and are

2066
02:04:30,300 --> 02:04:33,400
Thoughts and opinions, honestly.
I mean we could talk about

2067
02:04:33,400 --> 02:04:36,500
thoughts and opinions right now
but without going through all

2068
02:04:36,500 --> 02:04:39,800
the theories because there is a
fuck ton of them, that's a

2069
02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:43,500
two-hour conversation B.
Yeah, right.

2070
02:04:43,700 --> 02:04:45,800
So just making sure, yeah, don't
worry.

2071
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:48,000
There's there's more to go
through that.

2072
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:52,600
This is, this is about it,
story-based wise, like I said,

2073
02:04:52,600 --> 02:04:55,100
in the first episode, I'm not
really going to dive into the

2074
02:04:55,100 --> 02:04:58,400
current stuff because that
current stuff is all on the

2075
02:04:58,400 --> 02:05:00,600
History Channel.
You know, if you want to go And

2076
02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,300
I've been to the History Channel
and learn about the current

2077
02:05:03,300 --> 02:05:05,500
stuff that's going on right now
as we speak.

2078
02:05:05,900 --> 02:05:09,400
That's the place to go.
We can't do it better than it

2079
02:05:09,900 --> 02:05:10,900
go.
See them fake it.

2080
02:05:10,900 --> 02:05:14,700
Yeah.
Currently I'm on board with Jeff

2081
02:05:15,300 --> 02:05:19,800
for the most part.
Like I think he and I are

2082
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:23,900
driving through, he's dealings,
bro, he made the parallel for me

2083
02:05:24,700 --> 02:05:28,100
of, you know, getting away from
interdimensional beings into

2084
02:05:28,100 --> 02:05:32,600
something and More in my
wheelhouse and, you know, made

2085
02:05:32,600 --> 02:05:34,600
those bridges in the thought
process.

2086
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:39,400
And I'm like, yep, yeah,
probably now why is there so

2087
02:05:39,400 --> 02:05:42,400
much?
You know of this magnetic

2088
02:05:42,700 --> 02:05:45,800
anomaly or this, you know,
radioactive these are

2089
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:48,100
radioactive knowledge.
Or whatever it is.

2090
02:05:48,100 --> 02:05:52,500
Why is this a hot spot for it?
No clue II.

2091
02:05:52,500 --> 02:05:58,400
Don't know if I buy into the
whole ley-lines thing, you

2092
02:05:58,400 --> 02:06:02,400
should know that doesn't mean
that I can't be wrong, right?

2093
02:06:02,700 --> 02:06:06,800
But I just don't, you know, I
haven't looked into it enough to

2094
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:09,500
have a good opinion, formulated
about it.

2095
02:06:09,500 --> 02:06:17,100
But definitely seems to be a
high amount of craziness.

2096
02:06:17,200 --> 02:06:23,900
Is going on whether that is
psyop related or just, you know,

2097
02:06:23,900 --> 02:06:27,200
it's a big old, expansive,
nothing out there except for

2098
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:30,600
some ranches and stuff.
So not the worst place in the

2099
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:35,600
world to conduct, you know,
militaristic drills.

2100
02:06:37,300 --> 02:06:42,100
You know, maybe there's
Increased seismic activity right

2101
02:06:42,100 --> 02:06:44,800
there, but not in the form of
earthquakes and stuff.

2102
02:06:44,800 --> 02:06:48,400
But more in the form of
radiation coming up from, you

2103
02:06:48,400 --> 02:06:51,900
know, the bowels of the earth,
maybe there's a frickin tunnel

2104
02:06:51,900 --> 02:06:54,700
to the inner earth, right there.
The the hollow Earth for Jeff,

2105
02:06:54,700 --> 02:06:58,000
you know, I don't know.
But certainly I believe that

2106
02:06:58,000 --> 02:06:59,600
some of its going on.
Yeah.

2107
02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:02,000
Right.
There's Mel's home and I believe

2108
02:07:02,000 --> 02:07:07,300
that there's some of it going
on, but I think that there's

2109
02:07:07,700 --> 02:07:15,200
very a very high dosage or at
least a sprinkling of Bologna,

2110
02:07:15,500 --> 02:07:20,100
just inside of their mixed in
with the stories and the, you

2111
02:07:20,100 --> 02:07:22,600
know, not including the research
teams, right?

2112
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:24,600
The research teams are doing
their science and everything

2113
02:07:24,600 --> 02:07:27,600
else around that seems to be
like, oh and then this happened,

2114
02:07:27,900 --> 02:07:31,100
but there was Zero evidence of
it, the stuff, you know, the,

2115
02:07:31,600 --> 02:07:35,300
the literally the first time
this biologist has ever seen a

2116
02:07:35,300 --> 02:07:37,300
footprint like this.
His life.

2117
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:41,200
But we didn't take a cast
because I don't know, we just

2118
02:07:41,200 --> 02:07:45,600
you know it's just like it's
there's some definitely some

2119
02:07:45,600 --> 02:07:49,500
like all right this is this is
made up or this is flubbed or

2120
02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:55,100
this is, you know, really was
that red flags.

2121
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:56,700
Yeah.
Red flags, you know?

2122
02:07:56,700 --> 02:08:05,400
Or it was just like, you know,
obvious either, I don't want to

2123
02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:08,900
say it was like things were
looked over, but maybe things

2124
02:08:08,900 --> 02:08:17,100
were concealed We'll see.
Does anybody else have anything

2125
02:08:17,100 --> 02:08:20,400
to say before we sign off?
But I got a lot of theories, but

2126
02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:23,400
I'll save it for the next one.
Yeah, I've got, I've got a

2127
02:08:23,407 --> 02:08:29,000
couple ideas but I want to hear
the next episode first copy

2128
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:30,900
that.
All right.

2129
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:38,900
Well, I have one thing I mean
I'll have more of a an opinion I

2130
02:08:38,900 --> 02:08:42,700
guess more to say at the end.
But I mean so far from what

2131
02:08:42,700 --> 02:08:46,900
everything's happening and from
what we know today so far still,

2132
02:08:49,700 --> 02:08:53,100
you know, there's a lot that we
don't understand and I don't

2133
02:08:53,100 --> 02:08:56,600
know, I don't necessarily buy
that this is demons or anything,

2134
02:08:56,600 --> 02:09:03,800
but the whole Multiverse Theory,
you know, or you know, visitors

2135
02:09:03,800 --> 02:09:05,500
From Another Dimension.
I don't know.

2136
02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,800
It's just, it's just crazy, but
from everything, Terry Sherman

2137
02:09:09,800 --> 02:09:13,000
had told that Ned's about, you
know, what had happened prior to

2138
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:15,800
them arriving.
And then a lot of that similar

2139
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:21,900
things happening afterwards.
Being witnessed by them, I think

2140
02:09:21,900 --> 02:09:26,700
is pretty pretty cool.
Something definitely that, you

2141
02:09:26,700 --> 02:09:32,000
know, been happening on that
ranch and I can't wait to really

2142
02:09:32,500 --> 02:09:36,800
flesh out what I think about
that but you know it's pretty

2143
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:40,400
cool so far I didn't next
episode is gonna be a blast just

2144
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:44,500
being honest with you.
I got a lot me too.

2145
02:09:46,900 --> 02:09:52,100
I will go ahead and just point
my side at least and say that I

2146
02:09:52,108 --> 02:09:54,200
do believe that there's
something strange going on.

2147
02:09:56,300 --> 02:09:58,100
Is it paranormal?
I don't know.

2148
02:09:58,100 --> 02:10:02,300
I'll hold that opinion for
later, but I don't believe that

2149
02:10:02,300 --> 02:10:06,700
this is all 100% people just
fucking around and and

2150
02:10:06,700 --> 02:10:12,100
bullshitting.
And but not saying that it

2151
02:10:12,108 --> 02:10:15,800
doesn't happen, okay?
Definitely some.

2152
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:18,500
Some of the things that we
talked about tonight, we're in

2153
02:10:18,900 --> 02:10:21,400
during the last episode,
probably did not really happen.

2154
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:29,900
But there's so much here and so
much more that there's got to be

2155
02:10:29,900 --> 02:10:33,000
something with that.
Being said, if you made it all

2156
02:10:33,000 --> 02:10:36,100
the way to the end of this
episode, I do want to go ahead

2157
02:10:36,100 --> 02:10:40,200
and throw out a couple ideas for
some future episodes.

2158
02:10:40,200 --> 02:10:45,500
If you liked what we talked
about today in or today and in

2159
02:10:45,500 --> 02:10:48,200
the last episode about
Skinwalker Ranch, you want to

2160
02:10:48,208 --> 02:10:52,000
hear more stories from other
people other than Terry Sherman.

2161
02:10:52,300 --> 02:10:55,400
And It's team.
Some of those Fringe stories

2162
02:10:55,400 --> 02:10:57,100
that aren't really talked about
a lot.

2163
02:10:57,600 --> 02:11:01,800
Let me know.
Okay, leave a comment and

2164
02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:05,600
YouTube or shoot us an email at
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2165
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:09,900
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2166
02:11:09,900 --> 02:11:13,800
Rabbit Hole Facebook group.
Let us know, send us a message.

2167
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:17,000
Make a post, do what you got to
do, to let us know you want

2168
02:11:17,000 --> 02:11:22,500
this.
Because I have a couple books of

2169
02:11:22,600 --> 02:11:28,300
other stories and there is a
whole series 10 part series of

2170
02:11:28,300 --> 02:11:34,500
books, from one particular
person who claims to have snuck

2171
02:11:34,500 --> 02:11:39,400
onto the ranch enough times to
write Ten fucking books.

2172
02:11:39,600 --> 02:11:46,200
So it's easy, then let's go.
That's the same as doing a shot.

2173
02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:50,300
Ya know.
I don't Dragon to come after me.

2174
02:11:52,700 --> 02:12:03,200
Oh, dragon from I was so high.
I literally wrote the high so

2175
02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:04,400
hard.
I fell over.

2176
02:12:04,600 --> 02:12:08,000
We went near only says, every
single time they call for Dragon

2177
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:11,700
over the radio.
I'm like I know it makes this

2178
02:12:11,700 --> 02:12:14,300
argument extremely difficult
man.

2179
02:12:15,900 --> 02:12:18,400
He's dressed in all black, you
know, they're out in the fuck.

2180
02:12:18,700 --> 02:12:19,900
Out there in the middle of the
day.

2181
02:12:19,900 --> 02:12:22,300
It doesn't matter what the
temperature is, is in all black.

2182
02:12:22,700 --> 02:12:25,700
I'm like, oh my God, I wearing a
legislated for a shotgun out of

2183
02:12:25,700 --> 02:12:28,100
here just carrying it around
like a dork.

2184
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:33,500
Yeah.
Anyways, this has been another

2185
02:12:33,500 --> 02:12:37,100
episode of the infer Rebel
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2186
02:12:37,100 --> 02:12:38,900
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2187
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2188
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2189
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2190
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2191
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2196
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2197
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2198
02:13:20,500 --> 02:13:24,300
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2199
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2200
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:31,900
Tune in next time, we dive into
the theories behind Skinwalker

2201
02:13:31,900 --> 02:13:36,300
Ranch, and our personal opinions
about what could be behind the

2202
02:13:36,300 --> 02:13:39,300
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Thank you, everybody and good.

2203
02:13:39,308 --> 02:13:43,300
Bye bye.
Bye bye.