139. Researcher Spotlight: Carter Buschardt 3

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Welcome back to the infinite.
Rabbit-hole podcast, I'm your

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host Jeremy and today we're
going to dive into the minds of

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the quantum Bigfoot yet again
with a special guest.

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You know, we know him.
Everyone knows him.

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Don't show twice already.
But before we get to him, we're

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going to go ahead and introduce
our co-host for the night back

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for the second time in a row.
It's like he wants to be here or

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something.
Jacob, what's up, man?

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Hey, I'm not back.
I'm just hanging out now.

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Nothing much man, just excited
excited for this episode.

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I like all this stuff.
Yeah.

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So Jake heard who I was talking
to you today and he, he raised

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his hands and volunteered his
time.

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Hmm.
All right, so enough Jake.

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Nobody cares.
Yeah, he left us.

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Remember that guys?
Let's talk about our guest.

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Carter push hard.
How you doing, man?

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I'm doing well, more well than I
should.

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But, you know, good and always
always, always pretty good good,

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welcome back to the infinite
Rabbit Hole - thanks for having

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me back very very happy to have
you back a little back story.

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We do have a significant more.
Nificant increase and is

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significant increase of
listeners.

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Now compared to what it was.
Exactly.

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Seventeen months ago today?
Yeah.

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You had like eight listeners.
I think.

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Yes.
I'm stuff like that.

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Something.
Something really silly?

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Maybe good.
Your mom was there or something?

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Yeah, well, yeah.
But yeah, we are we're we got a

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little bit more so, you know,
hopefully we can help out a

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little more and get your get
your voice out there a little

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bit more than what we were able
to do last time.

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But either way your voice
travels man, you have a great

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story.
Re and you have great books.

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And today, we're going to talk a
little bit about your most

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recent book.
Sasquatch evidence of an enigma

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3.
This is your third edition right

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from 2023 and I just got done
reading it actually just a

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couple days ago, I've been kind
of poking at it here and there

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while I was doing research for
other stuff, and I knew I had to

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finish it up before.
I got got a chance to talk to

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you again.
Here, we are.

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We're going to talk about this
and it's good stuff.

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Yep.
To be a test.

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So, that's good thing you
finished it because I'm going to

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be grading you right here.
Good.

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Great.
Damn it.

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Okay.
All right, so first, let's catch

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up with Carter so Carter.
What's new man?

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What's going on?
Well, I'm up.

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Started a fourth book.
It is kind of a compilation, but

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it's some of the people I've got
about.

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Like I was telling you earlier,
I've got 10.

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Habituation families that I
monitor.

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They keep in touch with me.
They feel me in and they are

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pretty much right in the book.
I'm just spell checking it and

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getting it in there.
So, but I picked up three new

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families in the stuff, they're
telling me.

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It's just, you know, it's not
even Quantum or metaphysical,

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you know, they're hearing
conversations.

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Yeah.
You know, speaking conversations

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among two or three Sasquatch on
their property was two different

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people that are happy.
Hearing conversations.

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I mean, you know, and that's not
even paranormal or or anything,

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you know, birds chirp dogs bark,
Sasquatch talk.

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We talk to me.
They had their own language, you

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know, you're the Ron Morehead,
you know, tapes fills you all in

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on that.
So that's just been fascinating

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to me and they're just, they're
so the the information is just

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copious it.
Just keep coming out because

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they're so mesmerized by and
nobody.

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Eddie will talk to him.
That's the whole reason I do

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these books is because nobody
will talk to these people when

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they start talking about Colonel
Quantum type things.

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You know, whether you know
they're morphing, they're

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dissipating into an orb and
flying out the window and

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bizarre stuff, but, you know,
Multiple people are telling me

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the same types of stories, so
it's not like, I'm just running

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into Old Lee crazy people, you
know, these are like, rational

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people there.
You know, something lawyers,

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doctors cops, you know, retired
Executives.

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I mean, they're not like, people
looking for anything, you know,

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they just want to get it out.
They want to talk to somebody

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who's not going to laugh at it.
Make fun of that's my whole

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thing is these people really
don't have anywhere to go

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because, you know, the Only
crowd will talk to him with any,

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you know, any depth?
Oh, you saw someone disappear.

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How was school?
Okay, let's go back to the road

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crossing, you know, it's more to
it than that, you know.

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And I know, you know, that and
it is just, you know, you have

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to wrap your head around, you
have to have an open mind about

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this stuff and I do, and I've
had some things happen to me,

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which tells me these people are
full of crap, you know.

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And so it's just, it's just mine
bulb, glowingly awesome, that

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there.
They're sharing the stuff.

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I feel really privileged to have
these people reaching out to me

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but they've been laughed at and
left off of other shows and you

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know the relatives their spouses
they'll right honey.

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Yeah when you decide you don't
see Sasquatch anymore you don't

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have to sleep on the couch
anymore.

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I'm eating up with it because
it's daily.

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I'm getting a call or an email.
You know, I got one yesterday.

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From a lady who had a couple of
chickens stolen out of her.

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She raises his kind of ornate
chickens, you know, they're gray

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and white and black and red,
they got, you know, I don't know

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what they call our off their
bantams but they're really, I

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don't know what you're talking
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Yeah.
Yeah.

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They're really ornate and she
sent me a picture, and there's a

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whole about Big as my thigh
punched through chicken wire

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perfectly round hole just
punched and there's a pile of

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feathers.
The chicken's gone and this lady

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has more guts than I do.
She followed the trail of

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feathers to a cave by her house
which is on the side of a

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mountain in Tennessee.
And she went into the into the

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cave and she got chased out by a
Sasquatch.

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So we're in bonus content right
now.

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Everybody who's listening to
this right now.

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She's she was so upset, and so
yeah, I had to tell her a couple

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times.
You'll just calm down, calm

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down.
It's okay.

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We're going to get the story.
I just, you know, but she's so

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upset number one that they
killed her chickens more upset

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over that.
But and the, the Sasquatch

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sighting and being chased back
or secondary because she was

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still, she went back a second
time and got scared away.

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Way, before she got there
because they got another chicken

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is she okay?
I've had enough of this.

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You know, she just an old
Fireball old lady that lives on

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by herself on the side of a hill
and Timothy and that took my

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chickens.
It's like taking somebody's pet

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cat or your little lap dog.
You know I'm going after it and

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so it just stuff like that.
Just comes flying at me you know

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out of left field.
You know.

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Well you're the man for it.
Yeah I don't know if that's a

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good thing or not but It's it is
a good thing because you have a

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really awesome approach to it
for those that are listening to

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this conversation and have not
heard our previous conversations

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with Carter.
The first episode came out on

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January 14, 2020 to go check
that out.

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And check the one out
immediately right after their

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back-to-back episodes.
Check them out because we're

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going to build on some of the
vocabulary that we use back

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then.
Carter is very good at using

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specific vocabulary in.
Is in his writings and real

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quick.
Carter just for Refreshments.

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Let's let's let's talk about the
two big terms that you use.

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Visitation and habituation.
So can you kind of dumb that

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down for everybody and let them
know exactly what you mean by

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visitation and habituation?
Well visitation this this really

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is mostly for Rural isolated
properties whether you're on a

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farm land or, you know, you
Farmland butts up to heavy woods

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and things of that nature.
But visitation Versus

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habituation, visitation is where
and I have a couple of

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properties like this, would they
see them every now and then they

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see them walking through the
property around the property.

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See him walking deep in the
woods but there's no real

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interaction.
It's like their property is on

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the way to somewhere else that
they either live or hunt, you

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know?
And one of these properties

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where there's pictures on the
third book came from there.

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No, they hunt there, the
Sasquatch hunt there, but

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there's virtually no cover.
No caged, no heavy, heavy Woods

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that there's trees and woods,
but there's very little scrub.

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So there's no place to really
hide and secure your family, you

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know, it's got, its got some
water, it's got a small Creek,

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that's not like rivers and
plentiful with fish.

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So I delineate between the two.
Habituation is where you are

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seeing them daily, weekly or
monthly.

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You're interacting your gifting
your hearing conversations.

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Maybe some of your food is
disappearing, off your trees and

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your Gardens, some of your
animals, your livestock, you

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know, like we were talking about
earlier will disappear, you

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know?
And so that's a situation and,

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you know, most people that have
a habituation.

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They talk to the Sasquatch, just
say, hey, quit stealing my food.

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Quit killing.
My animals, quit stealing, our

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animals.
You won't take a little food

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here and there, that's great by
me.

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And if you just talk to him
because you're actually in a

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relationship, which is really
strange to say, but you're in a

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relationship with maybe a
primordial creature, you know.

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And so they understand that they
want to interact with humans are

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trying to get us, to be better
people and take care of the

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planet and all this hate and
racial racial stuff and all the

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garbage that's going on in
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They want us to just get back.
To Nature.

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Like we probably used to be a
long time ago.

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And so they understand these
things, you know?

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And and so that, that's how I
differentiate between the two is

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the visitation that, you know,
you see Amir every now that on

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your property, but, you know,
their Farmer Joe down, the road

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is, they're living on his
property, he's got caves, he's

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got a big river over there, he's
got a huge creep, he's got

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ponds, he's got all this, you
know, all this going on.

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And in place to raise a family,
hide a family, secure them,

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Versus what we got to go by, you
know, Bob and Betty's place to

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get to Bob's so, but that's the
two terms I use and, you know,

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pretty the not really
interchangeable is it's either

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one or the other.
So the cover of your book, this

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is actually an update on
something that you touched on

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and in your evidence of enigma
to book.

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This is the story of Jimmy and
preacher.

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Do you want to give us a quick
update because we did talk about

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that.
In the second episode that we

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did together.
Do you want to kind of fill us

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in on what kind of hate you have
there?

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So, on this book you can't
really see it.

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The picture small here.
But you know, picture such a

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bummer.
Yeah.

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Do you Jake.
Do you notice anything on here

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when you see the cover?
Yeah.

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The the time is only like four
seconds.

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It's just a guy and it's a hand
and everyone say, that's

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Bigfoot's Hannah.
And I certainly thought that now

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it's like oh, It's that guy with
his chubby fingers.

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Yeah.
Well, it's not, if it's, they're

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not, they're not the type to do
that, you know.

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And when I got the photo from
him, he told me at the time, I

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said, you know, I've got a
picture somewhere of me, I think

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it's about 10 or 12 seconds
later is when that handprint

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showed up.
So he was trying to find the

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picture, well, it wasn't 10 or
12 seconds with four seconds.

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So if you count Out 1 2 3 4.
That's how close it was.

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Now I feel and we all agreed
that it bumped the camera

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because you see the if you see
the shadowing here, you see the

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horizontal tree back here.
That's fallen.

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And in the trees are all
straight up and down back in

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here on this handprint.
The shading is a little bit

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different because it hit the
camera.

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If it's in a different position
than than the Sun and these

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trees up here in this corner,
look like they're blowing, well

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that should be bumped.
The the creature bump, the

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camera.
So you mean to tell me that

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that's that that's not his
fingers that that's just how

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close they were together.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
That's gold.

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Here's how I get not about it.
I run it through some programs

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and I'm not a photo expert, but
I know enough to run with it.

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Some programs to see if there's
any tampering.

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So, the really interesting
backstory was I had another.

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I've had 100 reports published
to BFRO.

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And so one of my other reports,
this film crew wanted to do a

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story on this family, in
Arkansas.

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Well, they decided we want
money.

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We want this, we want to be, we
want, you know, we want to be

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treated special and all this
eyesore.

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Really, where's this coming
from?

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You know, so the producers went
up.

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Screw that.
So they're going to go somewhere

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else.
I said, well, just so happened.

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I got this report from Jimmy and
the preacher.

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And so, I said, I've got a photo
here and before I drag you out

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here you need to see this photo.
I want you to tell me, you run

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it through your, you know, your
photo programs and see if it's

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been tampered with, or edited or
Faked.

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And about an hour later, the
call me back said, we're on the

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way.
Coming.

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So we taped the show that never
got off the ground.

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It was for who lose a Sasquatch.
It's good.

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They're going to get their hands
wet in the Sasquatch world but

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it due to infighting with the
production people, the creative

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people.
It was It was it was

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Abomination.
So we just it never happened,

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but they loved the film and they
made the love the video.

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So that's, it's a legit photo.
You just have to decide if this

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creature.
He never saw it.

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He never sensed it or heard it.
It just showed up on the camera.

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And so, and what they were doing
was going back every but two

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months, they go, they have about
30 cameras, they go out and

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change the batteries.
If they have to change the SD

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cards, get all the photos out,
put the new cards in and do the

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whole thing and redo it in two
months.

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So that's what he was doing.
Just walking, I've been to this

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private benefit of this property
twice, and it's a fascinating,

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the piece of land.
And so, when we When we, when I

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left the first time I went out
there, I made a gifting area and

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with three kids and some fruit
and some toys and animals and,

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you know, beads and necklaces
just a little gifting area.

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Well, somebody didn't like it
because they tore up one of the

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cameras that was out there.
They just ruined Cambridge and

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threw it right in the middle of
my pile of gifting stuff.

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So I'm only going to guess one
person would be responsible for

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that and be a Sasquatch that
just weren't happy with you

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know.
Becoming in their tinkering with

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their Placid little world.
So, but that's the backstory and

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they have other things going on
there, not just that.

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And I, you know, when I, when I
put this out, I got a lot of

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crap, oh, that's fake.
How dare you have, could you put

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that out, you know, better than
that.

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And I'm still, it's not fake,
you know.

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And that's the problem with
Sasquatch world is, you know,

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and the Paranormal field really
good.

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It's fake.
And if it's blurry well, It's,

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it's nothing.
Yeah, well, you know, I've been

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with people who I've seen, what
they took a picture of I've been

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with them when they took poet
blurry photos and it is blurry

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but that's because they're
freaking out and maybe these are

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the Sasquatch are changing their
vibrational frequency so they

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don't show up on the film you
know and and there's a precedent

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for that if you go back to the
Native Americans and the

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Sasquatch, if they had a
symbiotic relationship, which I

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think they did way back when you
know the Native Americans When

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the white man took their photos,
they saw their pictures on a

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piece of paper and they thought
you stole my soul, how to

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handles.
I'm not here.

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I'm here.
I'm not here.

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How did you do that?
You stole my soul.

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This is evil.
And so there, you know, that's

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documented.
So if you go back and there were

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some kind of symbiotic thing
where they traded food and

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materials that that philosophy
was shared amongst the two.

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And so cameras became a
diversion you know and so but

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you know then again a camera and
the woods just like sticking a

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camera in your living room
you're going to notice it.

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As soon as you walk in the front
door, you're going to see this

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camera up on the corner.
You go, where'd that come from?

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Same thing with a camera in the
woods a Sasquatch to go up.

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Stupid humans, what are you
doing?

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Putting the cameras in my my my
living room.

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I mean take all your crap back
here have this.

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Yeah.
So what's something something

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destroyed.
One of the cameras I still have

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the camera because Is there
might be something on the SD

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Card.
Unfortunately it's going to cost

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about a thousand bucks to get
someone to rebuild that SD card.

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I don't have that kind of money
laying around so it was messed

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up.
Yeah, yeah, well something and I

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think what happened was the SD
card was squeezed.

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It was crushed or something,
because you stick it in and

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nothing it's damaged.
It wouldn't have been damaged

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from just Throwing it against a
tree.

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I mean it wouldn't have it
didn't damage the insides it

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look, it was opened and
something was done to that card.

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I think they have the knowledge
that that is where the photos

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are, because a lot of people
say, I've had SD cards taken out

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of my cameras.
I've had batteries ticket out of

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my cameras so the Sasquatch are
doing that because they don't

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want to mess with it.
You know.

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Well you got to figure if
they're sitting there watching

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people and they're watching this
family.

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Go to each and every Single
camera, pull out something

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inside of it, swap it out, and
put the camera back, repeat

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Behavior.
They've got enough something's

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up with that, right?
It's not rocket science, you

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know, it's really the simple
act, the only thing that kind of

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befuddles me is that the size of
their hands?

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Getting that Little card out of
there, might be problematic,

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maybe you have to use a twig of
your fingernail or something,

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but you know, but that I've
heard that so many times that

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it's a real thing, you know,
they're they're slamming the

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back of the camera and the
batteries pop out or they just

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open it up and take the
batteries out or take the card

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out and throw it on the ground.
You know.

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It could be looking at these
things as living creatures to

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and they're just trying to get
the guts out of it.

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Yeah.
Sort of like one of the stories

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I want to talk to you about
today, okay?

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What is hold on, bear with me
here, Rebecca, Rebecca story.

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She has, she has a habituation
story that is out of this world.

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It's crazy.
It's got better.

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I mean, you know, has in the
book, halfway through, writing

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her story.
I'll set it up, she and her

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husband, they're retired.
They live out in the western

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state.
They live with their adult on.

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He's 14.
And maybe 50.

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Now he's on the autistic
spectrum and but he communicates

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pretty well.
He works around the house, he

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does a lot of chores.
He works out in the woods and

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the farm and all that stuff.
So they have a nice life out

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there but the husband was a
skeptic.

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And so for a couple of years it
was just you still missing with

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that stuff honey, come on.
I mean really there's no such

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thing you know so you know how
this is going to end but anyway

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so but she's gotten into this
gifting thing.

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Thing where she is gifting, I'm
giving Dollar Tree a whole lot

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of business.
I hope I get a kickback you know

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because people want to buy some
cheap baubles to gift, you know,

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necklaces, little dolls, little
toy Furniture marbles, those

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kind of shiny rocks that people
put in planners and stuff.

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We're just really cool little
the loud trinket e, kind of

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stuff.
She's put all that.

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A tree and mirrors.
And so what's happening now is

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that they don't like the mirrors
she'll strap three or four

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mirrors to the tree just the
hang them on the side of the

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tree.
She'll come back out the next

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morning, they're all turned
where the mirrors facing.

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The tree should have turn them
back out and then the next day,

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they're all facing the tree.
It's wild because obviously this

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is, this is one of the the
latter chapters in the book.

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So it's one of one of them.
That's like really fresh in my

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memory right now.
She had her husband Mark, I

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believe he's referred as in the
book.

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Now, as kind of a just like a
note for the listeners car,

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doesn't use anybody's actual
names now, that's appropriate.

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Nice.
So the names that were using

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here right now are not the
actual name so you can't go look

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them up by their name.
The only way you're gonna be

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able to hear their Story.
By these names isn't Cars book.

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Yeah.
Is it occasions are also dubious

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you know that yeah right who it
is and where it is does not

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matter.
Right.

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There's the event whatsoever.
Having a nice nice pot of

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property.
If everyone's going to be

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crawling all over it this
happened, you know we're it was

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the witnesses.
One of the people in my first

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book they told a bunch of people
that they thought were friends

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and sure enough.
They Ended up having people

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driving by their house, you
know, looking and, you know,

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cameras and binoculars really
and it's rare that that happens

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because, you know, that's how
you want to if you want to get

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shot.
That's weird Buddy's property,

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especially after dark, you know?
Yeah.

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So.
But anyway.

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Yeah, so the everything's
everything's fake and just to

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protect the identities.
Yeah.

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So Rebecca had her husband climb
up on a ladder and put screws in

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the trees about 7 to 8 feet
tall.

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And they were hanging necklaces,
the mirrors and, and actually a

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sack of apples.
Yeah, and there's been a couple

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times where these beads have
they've been removed.

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They've been Twisted tied, and
then replace back onto a screw.

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And then the one that really got
me, Carter was the one where the

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apples were eaten and the cores
and the chunks that were

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leftover, were put back into the
bag.

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That was Nick crazy.
That's absolutely Wild.

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That's the Sasquatch message of.
We want to take care of the

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earth, don't trash, the Earth,
put your trash away, maybe it

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sounds very simplistic and kind
of silly, but it, that's what

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they do.
You know, that's this

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relationship.
So, but it back to the gifting.

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So, now, what's happened is with
the mirrors.

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They took them off and they
threw them on the ground.

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And then she put some back up,
then they put them back on the

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tree.
But they wrapped a Vine around

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it, like five or six times a big
long Vine and they put the

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mirror against the tree so you
couldn't see it.

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They don't think they like the
reflection.

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I don't think they have the
sense of self that we do.

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You know, we're always making
sure we're all put together and

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they don't care.
They live in the woods.

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What do they care?
You know, so I think that our

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vanity, in our compulsion to
always be looking good and

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checking your logo, your
reflection.

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Ananda mirror is not something
they relate to.

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I think it I don't think they
liked it, but so, but they would

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wrap a Vine around these
mirrors, and then she'd go back

449
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,700
and undo it, and she'd hang them
up high and then one by once,

450
00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:27,700
they take them, and throw them
on the ground and break the

451
00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:33,300
glass and then she replaced him.
It's a never ending thing with

452
00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:36,100
with that.
In the beads are the same way,

453
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:40,000
but they'll take the beads and
they'll move them from the tree

454
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:43,000
to a tree trunk in though.
Weaver.

455
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,900
So it's kind of a decorative
thing, like, you know, like

456
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:49,600
drapes or something, they play
with them and decorate with

457
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,200
them.
And then she goes back out and

458
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,500
she said, me, tons of pictures.
I've got new pictures since the

459
00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:58,400
ones that are in the book which
is just bizarre stuff.

460
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:05,100
Now the other thing and this
just shows a sentient Sapient,

461
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:10,600
being one that feels and reasons
and thinks and in has compassion

462
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,200
They, they have a plum trees and
their backyard, all of a sudden,

463
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,500
all their plums, from the middle
of the tree up or gone.

464
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,200
They're stealing all the fruit
off the trees, and also their

465
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:27,400
the gardening, you know, the
squash and stuff like that.

466
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,800
She went nuts instead quit
stealing our food.

467
00:26:30,900 --> 00:26:37,100
Aisle will give you some take
some, but don't take our food.

468
00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:39,300
This is how we're feeding
ourselves.

469
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,600
You know granting yourself,
we're feeding ourselves.

470
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,200
She's In these conversations
with them.

471
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,000
And so a couple of days later
they have these little Koi pond,

472
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,100
you know, it's a little green to
be, you know, that.

473
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:54,700
Yeah, little circles.
You know, looks like the Olympic

474
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:59,300
rings and he holds, you know, 30
gallons and they have it out

475
00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:03,600
there that's where her son does.
A lot of work out there, he has

476
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,300
his little Babbling Brook out
there.

477
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:10,600
Well, he goes out there after
she chided them and in the pond

478
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:14,900
is a Rabbit with the head pulled
off.

479
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:19,100
It's been gutted and it's been
all nice and cleaned and washed

480
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:25,300
out, and it's floating in the
pond That was an apology for

481
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:30,500
stealing the food.
I mean it was just the Sun Goes

482
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:31,500
running back.
Whoa!

483
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:32,400
Whoa!
No!

484
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:34,800
Look at this.
I mean it would be freaking out

485
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:39,500
and it was it was it was a gift,
they were, you know, nothing was

486
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:41,000
said but they just took it that
way.

487
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,500
They know that that was the gift
two or three days later.

488
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,900
I know, you know where I'm going
with this.

489
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:53,200
I do hurts a little six-inch
perch was found swimming in this

490
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,600
little Pond.
There's no way that there's no

491
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,900
Creek or Ponder anywhere near
this.

492
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:03,300
That were that perch could have
come from and her husband who at

493
00:28:03,300 --> 00:28:06,200
the time was a skeptic is goes.
Well, you know, it's probably

494
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,300
one of the Heron flying over and
oh, it dropped a fish.

495
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,300
It just caught and it would get
filtered down through the trees

496
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:14,300
and bounced around and ended up
in the pond.

497
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,000
She's doing.
You really believe that really

498
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,400
you're gonna want me to believe
that story.

499
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:23,700
My story makes more sense that
the Sasquatch gifted it to us as

500
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:28,300
another gift, and an apology for
stealing food and in In your

501
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:31,900
book, you have a picture of the
location of this and it's not

502
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:33,800
big.
This is like a little, I'm

503
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,300
assuming like a six foot by six
foot little area.

504
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:40,600
Right?
And yeah, it's I think it in

505
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,500
your book.
You you quoted Rebecca is

506
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:46,100
saying, well, that's the
luckiest fish I've ever known.

507
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:50,400
Yeah, no I mean it's laughing
but he was that much of a

508
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,200
skeptic you know in It's usually
the men that of the Skeptics

509
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,900
because you know the men are
gone.

510
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:03,300
All the whole women are home
during the day and so she's home

511
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:06,000
all day.
You know, in she's had her name

512
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:14,100
called by her husband except
he's not there, it's the exact

513
00:29:14,100 --> 00:29:16,800
the imitation.
Yes his voice.

514
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,000
We actually talked about
something like this in the last

515
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,400
one to forgive me, I may forget
but I want to say, it was the

516
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,500
zap story zap.
The one that that used to say

517
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,700
and he used to call out Buddy's
name.

518
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:32,100
So we did talk about a story.
Yeah.

519
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:37,000
That was in Missouri, here in
Missouri and her name is Cindy,

520
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,300
and her husband calls her since
in.

521
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:42,300
Yes, yes.
Yeah.

522
00:29:42,300 --> 00:29:46,400
That would the Sasquatch was
calling her name.

523
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,600
She's home alone all day while
he's at work.

524
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,200
Yes, sin.
So see ya.

525
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,900
We we see parallels as you were
talking about earlier, you know

526
00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:59,000
you're seeing the same things
pop up and and Different states

527
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,300
where these people don't know
each other and yeah they don't

528
00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:04,900
know each other.
They don't want anything.

529
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:06,500
They don't want any money, fame
or Fortune.

530
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,900
They just want to tell it and
get it off their chest and they

531
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,700
want to talk to somebody who
believes them or will at least

532
00:30:12,700 --> 00:30:17,000
discuss it with him, you know.
And I don't blindly believe all

533
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,300
these people.
I mean but you know when you

534
00:30:19,308 --> 00:30:23,300
start hearing stories like this
repeat each other just different

535
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:27,100
location at different people but
the same events these people

536
00:30:27,100 --> 00:30:29,200
don't know each other.
And they're not.

537
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,900
They're not into it enough to
want to go.

538
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:35,100
Boo.
I just saw this really cool

539
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:37,300
story.
Let's let's just jerk jerk

540
00:30:37,300 --> 00:30:39,600
around with this researcher and
see if we can prank.

541
00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:42,400
And who does that?
You know?

542
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,900
I mean if you're going to hope
something you want to be there

543
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,500
to get your jollies, you want to
be there to see the effect of

544
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,900
your hoax, you know, this
long-distance kind of stuff it?

545
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:54,200
Nobody's hoaxing.
Here, this is real stuff, real?

546
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,000
People having these events, you
know, whether if you can't wrap

547
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,600
your head around it, I'm sorry
folks, but that's just what's

548
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,700
going on.
Ah, but the one here in

549
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:08,000
Missouri, it calls her name and
she called her husband, you

550
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,200
know?
Chuck, are you messing with me?

551
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,500
Are you here?
And and the other you know

552
00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:16,300
Rebecca did the same thing she
called her husband.

553
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:22,100
Are you here somewhere?
You just call me know, what are

554
00:31:22,108 --> 00:31:24,300
you talking about?
Because he's a skeptic at the

555
00:31:24,308 --> 00:31:28,800
time.
So but deal but the parity and

556
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,400
none of this is so Quantum or
paranormal.

557
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,300
This is they have a language,
they speak.

558
00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,900
We did a bad thing.
We took your food, we're going

559
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:42,300
to apologize for it and bring
you something in return.

560
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,500
You know, here's a dead rabbit.
We pull the head off and get it

561
00:31:45,500 --> 00:31:46,700
for you.
So I got to do is put her on

562
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:49,000
the, you know put it in the
stove and cook it, you know.

563
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:52,700
So you're welcome very much
Givens, you know, in the same

564
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:57,000
with the perch, you know.
But you know, the thing that you

565
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:06,500
know is going on now is orbs
that are morphing into Sasquatch

566
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:07,200
beings.
Yes.

567
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,900
And here's the womb everybody.
Yeah.

568
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:16,300
But you know in her husband
during the because in the book

569
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:20,400
he about halfway through, he
finally had a sighting and he

570
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,100
couldn't deny it anymore.
You know, he had a knee

571
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:29,200
replacement, I think it was and
he didn't like the opioids,

572
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,800
they're giving him.
So he couldn't sleep.

573
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,100
He's waking them up by two or
three or more, and he's sitting

574
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:35,700
in the living room just watching
TV, just trying to get sleepy

575
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:39,200
again. disease, when walk right
through the picture window, just

576
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,100
walks right by the house and the
motion lights go on, it's just

577
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:46,800
kind of walking along just, you
know, look back at the house and

578
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,400
just he's going.
You kidding me.

579
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:56,700
Okay, so he's been baptized yo,
he's no longer a skeptic, you

580
00:32:56,708 --> 00:32:58,500
know, the guy who's gonna get
your nuts honey.

581
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,100
Suddenly he's going, honey, I
got something to tell you.

582
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:07,300
You're so um, you know, I'm my
tail is between my legs and yes,

583
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,900
I believe you, I still don't
believe it, but I saw one and

584
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:15,500
I've seen another one and he is
seen them come in through the

585
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:20,300
window in an orb and then it
will enlarge and then it It

586
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:25,300
blossoms into a Sasquatch that
is kind of floating in front of

587
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:32,400
him and just letting him take a
look and then it goes up, you

588
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,100
know, I got so many stories like
that.

589
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:40,100
And so again, Am I just lucky or
unlucky enough to be speaking

590
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:43,400
with out of the 400 people?
I've got all these nutjobs.

591
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:48,500
No, you know, it's real stuff
that's really happening, you

592
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:53,100
know, she's with the gifting
tree, she's gifted.

593
00:33:53,100 --> 00:33:56,100
Now were she's a gifted a couple
of teddy bears and put them in a

594
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,400
plastic bag and the bag is
hanging on the tree.

595
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,500
One night, she couldn't sleep
because her husband snores, they

596
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:04,700
sleep in separate bedrooms a lot
because he snores.

597
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:11,800
And so she sees these, this
mother and her baby, she's

598
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,199
holding him.
And in the baby's hand, is the

599
00:34:15,207 --> 00:34:23,300
bag with the stuffed animals,
and it's a vision because

600
00:34:23,300 --> 00:34:28,199
there's two was an orb, and it
just turned into, you saw the

601
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,800
mother from the waist up.
Up and you see the little child

602
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:36,199
Juvenile and it's other hand.
It's taking its hand and

603
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:40,699
tickling her with a branch from
a tree or fuhrer, a piece of fir

604
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,699
tree.
And she goes, well, we only have

605
00:34:44,699 --> 00:34:46,199
a couple of fir trees in our
yard.

606
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:47,400
There's not really right in
here.

607
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,300
I hear there's one up there by
the driveway.

608
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:51,699
I said, well, why don't you go
check that tree and see, if

609
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:56,199
anywhere from six feet on up,
you see a missing Branch just on

610
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:58,500
a whim.
There was a missing Branch.

611
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,100
She And where that Branch was
taken by the kid.

612
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,500
It was tickling the Mama.
She's not doing this.

613
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:09,000
Just like a pesky little
two-year-old.

614
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:12,800
If your mother your wife is
holding the baby, you know, and

615
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,700
they're holding and trying to
cook dinner and his plan with

616
00:35:15,700 --> 00:35:19,300
your face.
It's the same thing we go

617
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:25,100
through, just a different being,
it's so crazy.

618
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:30,100
I mean the the similarities are
just if it wasn't for the

619
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:33,400
language barrier, there'd be
some really interesting

620
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,800
conversations going on because
but they're seeing all this

621
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,700
stuff and it matches what other
people are telling me now and

622
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:45,600
it's coming in in droves and
it's, it's real stuff, you know.

623
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,800
And but they Don't talk to
anybody because who's going to

624
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,300
believe that you know you just
you hear you're going.

625
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,300
That is so freaking awesome.
I can't believe it.

626
00:35:57,300 --> 00:36:01,700
Carves, I'm envious.
Yeah, and sometimes she goes,

627
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:06,900
it's a, it's a chores tedious,
they have orbs of all kinds of

628
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,500
flying through at night, the
cameras, pick them up orbs.

629
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,900
She's got the orbs in the
daylight, a lot of the photos

630
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:17,600
that the cameras are taking or
Right into the Sun.

631
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,700
So you're going to get those
sunspots and little things that

632
00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:25,100
look like orders, but they're
just relics of light and the

633
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:29,600
prisms.
So but it's just bizarre and it

634
00:36:29,607 --> 00:36:35,900
continues to go on.
And just all about two months

635
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:38,600
ago, she sent me some more
photos and some more stuffing,

636
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:45,900
this stuff just continues her
son, the autistic son, she knows

637
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:49,000
he's In them.
But he won't say that he has and

638
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,800
for the sake of conversation of
her, and her husband are talking

639
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,200
about Sasquatch, they call them
all George.

640
00:36:55,100 --> 00:36:57,800
So that the sun will understand
that they're talking about,

641
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,500
who's George Will George's any
Sasquatch generic word for all

642
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:04,400
Sasquatch George?
We see George.

643
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:07,100
So because you can get the
childlike mentality.

644
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,800
So you know, that he's
nonverbal.

645
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,800
No, he talks, okay.
Yeah.

646
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,600
In his pictures were the book,
he was so proud of himself for

647
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,400
being in a book.
He was just like, oh Mom, look,

648
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,600
I'm in a book and he was so
proud of himself, you know, is

649
00:37:20,607 --> 00:37:23,700
really cool.
Maybe he made me proud to that.

650
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:27,100
He was affected by it, you know,
he really thought, oh, I'm at

651
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:28,600
her book.
It's pretty neat.

652
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,300
You know, the school.
Very, you know, he is started

653
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,600
pulling his blinds tight in his
window.

654
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,000
They never come up anymore.
So she knows he's seen something

655
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:44,400
Her.
But he won't say that yet he

656
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,800
won't say that.
He's seen what they've asked he

657
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,000
goes no no not really but you
know that action tells you that

658
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,800
he is seeing something right.
But he may not have the words

659
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,500
for that or he may think he
might be in trouble.

660
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:02,600
I don't know.
He's 45, 4950 somewhere in that

661
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,000
range and so I would think he's
past the point of thinking, he's

662
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,600
going to get in trouble but who
knows what the mindset is.

663
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:14,400
But anyway, so that's And and
they've had other, they have a

664
00:38:14,408 --> 00:38:17,000
lot of orb activity, where
they're coming in and out of the

665
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,400
house Through the Windows.
These orbs, the orbs sounds

666
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,500
weird to people.
But, you know, in the Paranormal

667
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:29,100
world of your Ghost Hunter, orbs
or like, it's a staple, it's a

668
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:33,500
staple, it's accepted, you know,
beat potatoes, orbs go.

669
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:36,700
Just, you know, it's just it's
it is a staple.

670
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:38,800
It's, it's part of the
landscape.

671
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,400
But when you get into the
Sasquatch thing.

672
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,800
Well orps Sasquatch.
Really the right.

673
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,000
Okay now you're not you're not.
You're yakking neck him.

674
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,200
I changed?
Well no we're not.

675
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,700
You know, I've seen my wife has
seen one here in the house when

676
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:59,800
I had the meeting of this book
with the.

677
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,300
Yeah, that one.
Well, that was happening to me.

678
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,200
An orb was flying through our
bedroom 325 miles away.

679
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:13,400
I called my wife to tell her
about the event on this book and

680
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,000
what time was that?
Well, I don't know.

681
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,300
But it would have had to been
probably after seven or eight

682
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:20,500
because we left and it was
getting dark.

683
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:23,200
And there was covid-19, was out
in the woods, so it was just one

684
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,500
of those weird things.
And well, just so, you know, I

685
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:30,700
saw an orb come flying through
the bedroom and it, I saw it

686
00:39:31,100 --> 00:39:33,900
physically, I saw it.
I also saw the reflection in our

687
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:37,700
bedroom mirror on a dresser and
it was it around for a little

688
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:41,300
bit, then it flew to The back in
the left, she never saw it, but

689
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:46,500
that happened nearly within an
hour or two of when I had been

690
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:52,400
made contact with with this clan
in Illinois, just crazy bizarre

691
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,700
stuff.
But it's, it's, it's happening,

692
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,200
you know.
Now, you know, I don't get

693
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:02,600
invited to the big Sasquatch
conference because of your just,

694
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,300
you know, fresh important.
Yeah.

695
00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:08,000
Well there's, there's more to it
than that.

696
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,800
You know, but no you speak to
Dead Horse but that this is

697
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,800
going on and she's going to be
put her in the book.

698
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,400
She's got some new stuff and
it's just it continues, because

699
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,700
both are embracing it.
You know, a lot of people will

700
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,600
ignore it and don't want to
interact with them.

701
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:30,600
And they have the option of
interacting or not it.

702
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,400
She's fascinated with, they're
just all eat.

703
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,400
No.
But now, the husband is been

704
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,400
baptized.
He's like, what can I do this?

705
00:40:38,500 --> 00:40:40,700
Is this is crazy.
This is weird.

706
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:45,400
It's cool.
You know, and so but you that's

707
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,600
that family and they are just is
honest and is forthcoming.

708
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,500
As you can possibly get.
I mean, they're just real

709
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:55,500
people.
I, you know, and I don't want

710
00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:58,400
these stories to be true because
I want to put them at a book.

711
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,800
I want them to be true because
they are true.

712
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,900
It's not that I want them.
They just are true.

713
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:07,500
You can tell the sincerity and
the emotion you know a couple

714
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:10,000
people start bawling.
After they, you know, finally,

715
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,500
they get the talk, and they go.
Oh, thank you so much for talk.

716
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:14,200
Oh my God.
You don't believe how much crap

717
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,400
I've gone through.
Oh my God.

718
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,900
They're so grateful.
You know, to be able to just get

719
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:22,800
it off their chest and nobody
thinks, you know, I don't think

720
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,600
they're nuts, you know, their
husband or wife or family.

721
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:29,200
Grandpa says they saw a
Sasquatch.

722
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,500
Let's have him over for
Thanksgiving.

723
00:41:30,500 --> 00:41:34,600
Let's give him some crap.
You know, that's not what you do

724
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,300
to somebody who's had a
life-changing event.

725
00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:43,700
Well, I thought his number is
probably still got a rotary

726
00:41:43,700 --> 00:41:47,200
phone on the wall, the wall.
No, that's how do you want to

727
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,300
hear their stories because some
of those stories are going to go

728
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:52,900
to the Grave with them.
Yeah.

729
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,900
If they've been ridiculed one
time.

730
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:57,400
Too many.
You know, and you just, you just

731
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,800
shut up.
You just don't want to go

732
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,400
through it.
I'll just keep it to myself.

733
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,500
I feel this because I too like
we talked about before and the

734
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:08,100
listeners have heard plenty of
times.

735
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,600
I also went through a lot of
really cool when I told my story

736
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,700
and mine doesn't have a wou
aspect to it, you know my is

737
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:17,400
just I saw this thing walking in
the woods doing its thing,

738
00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:19,500
right?
Scared the living piss out of me

739
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:22,800
and that's it.
And that enough is enough to

740
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:24,900
make people look at you like
you're fucking weird.

741
00:42:25,300 --> 00:42:27,800
Yeah.
And I couldn't even imagine what

742
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:31,500
what these people who are going
through this, you know, how cool

743
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,300
it's above us cruel.
I mean, it's nonstop.

744
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,400
It's like you've always got
that.

745
00:42:38,500 --> 00:42:41,100
Erk in the room who's like more
like a co-worker.

746
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:43,800
Hey Bob come over here by a
beer.

747
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,500
Hey tell us about that.
Giant gorilla you saw on on your

748
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:52,500
back foot and he's got well am I
thirsty enough to go through the

749
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:55,300
humiliation of having a free
beer or do I just want to turn a

750
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:59,700
walk away, you know, so you
know, flip a coin, you know?

751
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,400
But but that's just that's
cruel.

752
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:10,200
Yeah, it in the whole mindset,
is that We are taught from the

753
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:16,600
day were born, how to think how
to view the world science,

754
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:21,100
government religion, education
the value from the time, your

755
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:22,700
come out of the birth canal to
the time.

756
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:25,600
You're 18 to 22 degrees.
Again, if you go to college,

757
00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:29,400
you're handed books and you're
taught how the world is.

758
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,300
There's no UFOs.
There's no ghost.

759
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:33,800
There's no Sasquatch.
Oh, wait, the government was

760
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,800
lying, there is UFOs.
What would get back to you on

761
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,700
that, you know?
They know these things but they

762
00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:45,100
don't want us to know and why
what's the big deal about an

763
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:49,500
Undiscovered ape.
If that's all it is, and be a

764
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:52,800
fascinating story, an alien
living in North America.

765
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,800
But once you get over that,
what's the big deal?

766
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:59,100
I mean, it's incredible and
makes us rethink things.

767
00:43:59,100 --> 00:44:02,900
But there's things going on with
these beings and they are

768
00:44:02,900 --> 00:44:05,900
beings.
They are a people, they are, you

769
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:11,500
know, they have a language.
I Been made to see things that

770
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:15,200
were not there.
That were not real.

771
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:20,300
And my wife was with me during
one of those events freaked her

772
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:25,200
out to no end.
But now she knows that I'm on to

773
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,300
something because this is real
stuff.

774
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:29,500
You know, she saw me
hallucinating seeing something

775
00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:32,200
that was not possible to be
seen, but I was seeing it.

776
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,000
She was standing right there.
So it's a funny story, but the

777
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,900
whole point is this stuff is
going on and you're just told

778
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,700
Told how the world really is.
So therefore when you see

779
00:44:42,700 --> 00:44:44,700
something you automatically,
fill it in with something else.

780
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,500
Well, the guy in a Ghillie suit,
it's a bear standing up.

781
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:51,800
It's a deer standing up on her,
hind legs, eating fruit from a

782
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,000
little Hanging Tree.
It's a guy, you know, somebody

783
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,100
trying to prank me whatever you
fill in the blank and if you're

784
00:44:57,100 --> 00:45:00,000
not really, really concerned
about it, you just blow it off

785
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,500
and go on about your way.
And so that's why your initial

786
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:08,700
reaction somebody who has no
interest one way.

787
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:12,900
The other is just a discount it
or explain it away and go go on

788
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:16,000
and it doesn't Intrigue them.
Others are going well.

789
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,100
And that was weird but you still
go, I can't explain it.

790
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:22,900
You just you got things to do,
you gotta, you know, a job and a

791
00:45:22,908 --> 00:45:25,400
wife and a kid in the house and
things to do.

792
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,500
That's not of no concern to you.
Someone like me, I got too much

793
00:45:29,500 --> 00:45:32,800
time on my hands and stuff.
It just fascinating to me, you

794
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,700
know, and you know, I saw one
disappear on my thermal camera

795
00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:39,100
one night.
It just Took me from the ape

796
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:42,900
only to the dark side.
That's what we call it.

797
00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:45,300
But you know, once you see some,
you know, you know, Jeremy you

798
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:50,300
once you see it it affects you
and you know that you're looking

799
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:54,200
at something that doesn't make
sense, doesn't fit in and I got

800
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,500
to figure this out.
It's been a lifelong Obsession

801
00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:58,500
for me.
Be honest with you.

802
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,300
Yeah, it's okay.
I'm going, you know, I mean, you

803
00:46:01,308 --> 00:46:05,000
know, you know, I had an event
happened to me when I was 10 and

804
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,300
that's when I kind of got into
the the The, the Paranormal

805
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:10,500
stuff and I was 10, I care.
I already kind of knew that the

806
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,900
world was not as they were
telling us because I had seen an

807
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,600
experience something.
And when I first saw the In

808
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,200
Search of with Leonard Nimoy,
the the Patty film is my first,

809
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,300
you know, initiation into seeing
that I was going.

810
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,900
Oh my God, that is freaking
awesome.

811
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,100
Yeah, the world is a cool place
and so that I just always had

812
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:32,900
that in the back of my head.
But you know, when you see your

813
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:38,700
experience something that's just
prohibited You know, you can't

814
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,500
tell anybody if you tell the
people you think you trust and

815
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:47,300
they dumped on you, well, your
your silenced forever, you know,

816
00:46:47,300 --> 00:46:52,000
I mean and so my main thing with
writing these books is getting

817
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,500
them out.
I want people to tell me the

818
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:58,100
things they've seen, and if I
get their permission, I put them

819
00:46:58,100 --> 00:46:59,300
in the book.
They get a free book.

820
00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:01,800
That's all they want.
They want a chance to talk to

821
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,100
get a book with their story in
it, and they can show their

822
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:07,000
friends and family.
At some time, we'll see this.

823
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,100
Bob Carol.
That's really, that's really Ted

824
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:11,600
and Linda, that's us, that's
just your parents.

825
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,000
We had a sighting and you know,
that's us.

826
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,900
This is our story and we've told
you the story before when I was

827
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:19,300
in a book.
We're disguising their names

828
00:47:19,300 --> 00:47:22,000
because we don't want any
bearish moment for you.

829
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,500
Kids at school, making fun of
you all that kind of stuff.

830
00:47:24,500 --> 00:47:29,000
We so we're being anonymous.
So that's why, you know, when it

831
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,500
comes into your head you just go
that's baloney it that can't be

832
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:34,600
I must have had a bad tuna
sandwich or something.

833
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,200
I mean, you know, I mean
something's making me.

834
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:38,500
See that?
Because that's not real.

835
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:40,400
It can't be real.
All right?

836
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,200
Let a what it is, but it is.
All right, Travelers.

837
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,300
That's all we have for tonight.
No worries on July 25th, we're

838
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:54,800
going to go ahead and drop part
2 of Jacob myselves conversation

839
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,300
with mr.
Carter Bush hard and dive even

840
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:59,900
deeper into the world of the
whoa Bigfoot.

841
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:02,600
We'll see you, then Travelers,
have a good one.

842
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:09,800
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