140. Researcher Spotlight: Carter Buschardt 4

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Welcome back to the infinite.
Rabbit-hole podcast.

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I'm your host Jeremy and today
we're going to dive into part

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two of our interview with
Carter, Bush hard.

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So, get ready.
You're going to join me.

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My old co host Jacob and Carter
or a dive into more of the

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Bigfoot.
Whoo.

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Enjoy everyone.
I want to talk about another one

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real quick, this one, you
actually start the book off with

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it.
So it's chapter chapter 1, Bob,

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Carol & Ted.
Now this one was why I left.

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Yeah, this is in the newest one
evidence of anything with three.

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I'll go ahead and and and tell
you what I have written down as

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your summary here.
Bob had a vision of a dream

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being in space and viewing the
early own and ringed planets

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through.
Yeah.

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You already know where I'm going
with that, right?

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We come next week.
Um friends.

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Yeah, and here's something I get
visions.

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Once a month, maybe twice a
month.

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I will be shown this Gully this
long deep ravine and it could

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either be one of two places.
It could be the place in

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Illinois, a leather, a little
Expedition for BFRO and 2019 in

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Murfreesboro.
And and and the place that I use

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here in Missouri one in
Eminence, Missouri is another

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Search area.
They both look identical.

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But I am shown I'm going down
this Ravine really slow but the,

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the landscape is going by much
much, much faster than I'm

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going.
It's it, but I think it's their

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concept of time their their time
and space logic is far different

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from ours.
So but it matches with Ted who

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was shown a triangle and that's
in the book, I think.

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I got the drawing in here.
Yes.

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Yes you do the first chapter,
not your introduction of that.

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Unfortunately, this is a we're
down to only being only audio

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podcast now Carter
unfortunately.

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But if you want to send me a
picture of it, I can post it

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with the posting of this
episode.

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Okay, I'll have to try find it
lower anyway so no rubber.

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He he contacted me from a
podcast and he lives Out near

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monkey mountain, where I've
taken a couple of these prints

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in Missouri, and he was telling
me and it's a triangle with

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three planets, the Earth, the
moon, and probably Saturn, it's

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a planet with rings around and
then their stars.

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And he is just shown, and he's
kind of moving through this.

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He's moving, it's moving at him
and he's just shown, he's been

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shown this.
I think just twice.

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And he's figure somebody is
trying to communicate with him

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then all of a sudden they were
getting glyphs.

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Left on the ground, you know,
glyphs which are, you know, made

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with branches and twigs to
delineate, you know, shapes the

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clips.
And so they started showing up

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on the, on the side of the
house, where all their bedrooms

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are him and his wife and their
son.

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They have one boy.
And so there are all showing up

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on this one, side of the house
on the ground bones, driven into

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the ground and just bizarre.
Stuff.

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The one that's my favorite that
they've shared is that he and

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his wife, they both work from
home.

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So they have the option of just
kind of hanging around the

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house, they have lunch together
and go stand out on the deck

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when afternoon they were
standing on the deck, she's at

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the edge of the deck and he's
back, kind of toward the house.

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He had just come outside from
getting some food and they see

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this shimmering.
Predator.

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It's the shimmering glowing
gelatinous Mass but it's a

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humanoid shape and its walking
across the yard and she's going

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do you see that?
And he's looking and he sees it

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from a different angle because
yeah, what the heck they see, it

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was about five seconds and I've
been to their house several

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times and it walks from
underneath the deck.

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Deck or from around the side of
the house, they couldn't tell,

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but it looked like it came from
underneath the deck.

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They walked across the yard past
his pile of wood and then into

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some Woods.
Three, these wild three seconds.

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They both are seeing it.
Yeah, and she's like

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Straight-laced.
She is come to embrace all this

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but At first she was like, I
don't know what the heck but you

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know, I don't like this.
I don't, I don't know what any

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of this is.
This is, but now she's embracing

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it because they've heard calls.
They've got handprints with the

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big waxy, you know, the waxy
film on the handprint.

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You know, that's it.
That's touch called Alba vernix

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by the way?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
It's a think it's a Latin for

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sticky shit. sorry to cut
everybody, we know you're good

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but you know but so it's like
she knows it's happening and

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she's a very realistic
down-to-earth person you know,

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and I've sent there and talk to
her and she's like I mean, I

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want to believe but I just the
way I was brought up and

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everything I just I can't seem
to grasp that that could really

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be happening.
They have orbs coming in and out

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of a pet door in Jackson with
her cats.

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I've got some videos of that,
just odd stuff, you know,

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structures calls, whoops.
Voices they've heard gibberish.

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Hmm.
What do you do with that?

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In this guy?
Is a former government worker.

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He's by the book.
Rational he's a no BS guy, you

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know, he's not a BS or he didn't
want any attention, you know,

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none of these, none of them do.
I keep saying that just to make

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sure everybody knows that these
people are quacks and nuts, you

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know, they don't want anything,
they just what is going on.

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And so, It's crazy but you know
he's showing this he's seeing

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this, he's never experienced
anything like this in his life,

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his life's been pretty routine
and dull, you know.

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But when he all of a sudden
experiencing floating through

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space, in this giant triangles
coming at him and showing him

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these three planets you go.
They're trying to talk to you.

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I don't know what they're
saying, but they're trying to

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communicate to you, they're
trying to, you know, and then

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all these other things, the
glyphs and the bones being

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driven in the ground, you know,
something about drops bones off

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and they have glyphs left.
I mean, they're really some

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ornate stuff and so you just it
keeps coming at me, it's and

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it's real people, you know, if
it's I'm so privileged to have

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really.
I just I'm so privileged to have

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the certificate keep coming.
They're sharing it with me and,

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you know, he sent me about 23
weeks ago, he sent me a another

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photo of an orb.
It's a video comes through this

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doggy door and Zips around the
cats and their, the cats are all

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doing this, you know, where
they're trying to eat.

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It's at night, you know, it's
late at night and they're not

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even awake, they don't just
catch it on the camera and the

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warrant.
So and the cats are like They

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see it, you know, and it's kind
of zipping around messing with

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them.
So, I mean, what do you do with

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that?
You know what, what is, what am

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I to do with that?
What do you do with it?

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When you hear it, or see it as,
as somebody on the outside,

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looking in, you've had
experience.

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So you, you know what I'm
talking about?

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And this is real stuff happened
to real people.

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It's just You know, I'm just
constantly, I'm constantly

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flattered that.
They're sharing it with me, you

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know?
And I'm having my own stuff.

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I mean, it's not like, you know,
I'm just, you know, I'm having

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my own events, you know, with, I
told you the one about me seeing

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my car somewhere, where we?
Yes.

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Well, so, OK.
Let's see, let's see if how my

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memory is here.
Carter, you and your wife wear

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out investigating.
Because she was, she was some

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sort of us.
Skeptic.

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Yeah, it was kind of like, I'm
glad you have your, because she

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sees all my evidence and photos
people see me August spread all

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the desks and she's, well, I'm
glad you got a little.

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Some she's being playful, and
don't you get a hobby as you

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don't you patronize me.
Some some distance ahead of you

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and she did not, she told, you
know, our cars back over there

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and you both look back.
She saw the car, but you didn't.

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And then you are like, know,
what?

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Are you looking at our cars?
Met is down there.

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They Som something somehow.
It ended up down there and she's

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like, no, it's right there.
You guys both see in the car at

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two different directions?
Yeah.

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Yeah.
It is that correct?

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That does basically, Yeah.
Yeah, it's so, you know, this

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Ravine that as my research area
it, I'll preface it by saying

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this area.
I can have something happen.

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Probably 90% of the time when I
go out there, they know really,

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they are used to me.
When you get out there, you get

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that sense of something
watching.

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You, your the pair in the back
of your neck sticking up, you

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know, there's you're in their
living room, you know, they're

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there and so and she had never
experienced that she was going.

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I've had enough I believe Let's
leave a like two minutes.

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Okay, I'm done.
Okay, let's go as a no, no, no,

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no.
We're just going to go down to

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the bottom, it's about a hundred
yard walk, right down to the

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bottom of the Ravine, because at
the bottom of the Ravine and

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around a curve, is where I saw
that one disappear.

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When I was leading an expedition
on my thermal camera about 45

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years before that and so that
pay my research area and that's

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what why I wanted to take her
there.

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And so there's a big metal gate.
You cannot drive down this

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Ravine.
It's way too narrow.

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For a car.
Anyway, I had an issue via

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silver SUV and so I parked the
car there and we're walking down

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and every two or three, four
steps.

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I'm going back, I'm going back
to the well, no, you're not

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because I got the keys in my
pocket.

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You're not going to experience
its and taking nothing's going

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to happen and she's flipping.
Look the cars just right up

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there.
I Shine the Light And my car is

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gone.
Who wears the word my cargo.

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She goes, what do you mean?
I'm looking right at it.

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You're shining the light on your
car.

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Sit right there said, no, it's
gone.

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Where is it?
And I just turned just is a

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reflex.
I went I shined it down to where

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we were going and there's my
car.

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The bottom of the Ravine is
impossible.

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It is no way.
And she goes, what are you

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looking at your car's?
Not there your, there's nothing

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there, it's just Woods.
No, look at my car.

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How to get down there, she's
going.

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What are you?
What the heck is wrong with you?

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I shine it back up there where
we're was in a say, it's go.

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Look, she goes.
No, it's right there.

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I'm looking right at it.
And so I go back and forth about

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four or five times.
She's going.

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What's wrong with you?
You're something wrong with you.

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I know you guys are jacking with
me.

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I knew exactly.
Why not right away, but I knew

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that the Sasquatch I was taking
her to show her and they showed

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me it was like you know, shove
it up, your butt, big daddy,

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this is where we can do.
You want to go show her?

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So this was an assumption on my
part but it sure fits the

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narrative because, you know, and
after about four or five times,

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I shine my light back up where
the car wasn't there was and

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that's when they realized they
were messing with me, they were

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making me.
They were implanting Vision in

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my head of my car being down at
the other end of this Ravine,

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which is totally impossible, and
you have a term for that being

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Zapped, right?
Yeah, Zach.

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Yeah.
I got my Carter dictionary here.

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Yeah, it's good for sound, or
some kind of mental telepathy

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infrasound is, is a tone it's
above and below the human range

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of hearing yolk lions tigers,
Some gorillas dolphins, whales

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elephants, lot of animals use it
to communicate.

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Actually infra is lo all true as
high as the ultrasound high and

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for low.
Yeah, so it's above and below

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the range of human hearing so
but you know, they use it

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Europe, a lot to quell Riot
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they will bombard is crowds with
sound and they've just tears

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your guts of it earlier.
You know, when you can be made

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to hallucinate, you can also be
made the shit your pants.

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Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

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The brown note in the name of
science I'll be glad to take one

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for the team.
We got a pinch one off of the

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wood just to make a fool of
myself

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magic.
Get Zapped by a Sasquatch with

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with the brown, note be right
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Did you just shit yourself?
It was it was, it was a

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Sasquatch.
It's a big leave me please.

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Human, you knew your true your
car, but either telepathy or

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infrasound where I was made to
see something.

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And that's how they build.
A lot of times people would

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describe seeing deer running,
amok in an open field of they're

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just running around crazy.
Like they don't know where

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they're going.
They've been zapped with

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infrasound.
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They don't know where to run.
So they just start running amok,

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and they end up running into the
arms of the waiting.

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Sasquatch, they Place their
alleged break the neck, and they

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got a meal.
And that's, that's something

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that even the Flesh and Blood
Community has trouble defining

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that it seems that the woo
Community can Define just fine

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as you just did right there.
Is this weird Sensation that a

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lot of people report and
actually this is actually part

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of my story as well, where these
Sasquatch, just have this

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ability.
To sneak up on a freaking deer

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and kill it.
It like it's nothing or that the

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deer start acting erratic and
they start running right towards

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a single or a group of Sasquatch
and it its life is ended that

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way and it is extremely weird
and infra sound would that would

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that would definitely answer
some of that because that is

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something that has been proven
on humans.

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Subjects that does cause
confusion, that's so cool.

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Yeah.
And so, you and I did a show

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with the Russell Jones in Bride
Keenan, you know, and they're

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pretty much a, you know, all
they do believe in ghosts.

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Ah, but you know, but so, but
that's their mindset.

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And part of it is, you know,
he's a doctor.

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So, he's has a scientific.
Upbringing or education and so

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science that Sasquatch doesn't
exist you know.

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So anything esoteric it has to
be it has to be provable and

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repeatedly provable when things
happen and they can't do it with

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Sasquatch.
Not yet, you know, part of

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science is also disproving and I
think that's a lot of what

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people need to understand is
like yeah.

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Okay.
Well can you disprove my

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theories?
That's that's the interesting.

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I mean you you can disprove to
me that the sky is green, right?

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If I say it's green and you're
looking up there like no

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definitely blue.
Dude let me go ask some people

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have them look up there and
we'll see we'll see who wins

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this.
This this pole, you know, but

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the that's kind of one way to
prove your point and I think

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that's where the scientific
Community kind of gets mixed up

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a little bit because they're so,
so set on proving the existence

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instead of disproving the
existence, right?

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So how can You disprove, the
existence and I, I'm sorry, I

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kind of went off on a little
side.

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No one would hear what you're
saying?

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No, it's damned if you do,
damned if you don't, you know,

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there's there's no there's no
consensus, right?

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No.
You know, I take it to the point

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where science gets most of their
grant money from the government

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Government doesn't want us to
know.

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So yeah, you take our money.
You say there's a Sasquatch.

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The checks are going to stop
coming in.

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Whoa, what's my man?
That might be enough to switch

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somebody, let's be honest.
Yeah.

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You start collecting those
paychecks?

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Yeah.
And your pension, you know, and

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your reputation in Academia, you
know.

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So, but it's crazy.
So but, you know, when that

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happens, you know, you have to
I'm realistic, but I'm also

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going.
I saw that I experienced this.

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Whatever it is, that's my
reality.

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You can't take it away from me.
You can scoff at it, and you can

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try to convince me, but I saw
that when I saw that one

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disappear on my thermal, I'm
watching for some lost hikers

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that were on our Expedition and
it just, it was like a flash

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bulb.
We just poof, if vanished and I

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went like, from that moment on I
went to the dark side.

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Like I said earlier I know when
I was with a bunch of papers

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that's all they believe was just
they're just dumb Apes.

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They know dumb ape they can do
some of the things that people

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are describing is just flat out
there.

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Not just dumb Apes, you know,
I'd love to be able to prove it

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but other than these incredible
Tales, I have nothing except my

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personal experience.
In my wife was there.

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The one time she's going, you
know, that was what she is

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still.
You know, when someone I bring

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it up, she's like going That was
the weirdest thing I have ever

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seen and she's seen go, she's a
sensitive, and she is sensitive

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to certain things just seem
thing she sees and sensors

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things before I do.
So that's, you know, that was

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her way of convincing herself.
I said, well, I can't believe in

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this in deny that.
Yeah, her getting the

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heebie-jeebies.
She's got Mo's when she's been

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in the presence of spirits.
So you know she couldn't deny

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it.
She just flat-out couldn't and

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she saw me and I was sincere.
I was totally baffled for about

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five minutes.
I was just like, how did my

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would you know?
I used some very colorful

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language arts just like how did
my car that just no

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blankety-blank boy.
What the?

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It's just hilarious when 11:00
in the woods in the middle of

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nowhere and she can go get it.
She's you know you can sense

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their there and she knows
they're there.

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She knows there's Something else
for boating for her and it's one

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that I'm going to hurt you that
this this is just the vibe that

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they have because we want you to
know that they're here and don't

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come any closer, our families
over here.

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So just so.
But yeah.

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It's just what do you do with
that?

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You know, when you run into
that, what do you do with it?

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You can't just go.
That's a bunch of crap, you

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know, you can't, you can't say
that.

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I mean, you can but you know,
I'm experiencing this stuff and

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you know, it My Witnesses or my
habituation people my

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experiencers, they're all going
through that stuff, it's just

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mind-boggling, you know, and a
guy up in Canada.

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David Allen.
He's in that second book. thirty

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years of Indoctrination, by the
Sasquatch with him and his

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father. thirty years and he
fought it forever, and it got

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almost Violent or painful.
And some of the things he had to

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go through because they, they
were assigned to him, to show

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him the way, he's up living
there with the indigenous,

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peoples up in the hinterland, to
British Columbia in the middle

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of nowhere, you know.
And he kept, he was just a party

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animal.
He just wanted to have a good

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time and any time he had a clue
or something or go bump in the

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night, he would just write it
off as anything but what they

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wanted it to be.
And so, but that's that's a

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whole nother show, right in and
of itself.

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He's 100 pages in this book and
it just some of the stuff that

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he went through, just crazy.
You've got this one, don't you?

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Oh yeah, I got it right here.
Yeah, but the one that got me

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and this is a nice tie-in.
Okay, this this log here, Olivia

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Expedition.
There's 2019 I had For people.

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And this is right when right
before covid.

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It was a, the expedition was
scheduled with another

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researcher and he canceled had
to cancel at the last minute for

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some family problems or
something.

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So they had to cancel the
Expedition.

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Well, these four people said you
got my money.

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I don't want my money back.
I want to go on an expedition so

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they sent out an all-points.
Bulletin and researchers want to

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do an expedition in Illinois,
that's only 350 miles away from

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me.
I said, well, you know, I've got

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a good buddy that lives there.
My Sasquatch partner Harold

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lives in Murfreesboro, and so I
said, I'll go what the heck?

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And so long story short, we,
there's only four people myself

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makes five and Harold was there.
He makes six Because He Lives

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real close.
So I went to the mom and pop

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cafes because Wes what I
normally do and I'm scouting an

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area for an expedition.
I go to the little mom-and-pop,

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places work everybody, their
mother.

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It meets and everybody tells
everybody stories and everybody

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knows everybody and that's how
you find out, you know, they all

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look at you when you walk in and
because they will know your

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stranger, you're sitting here,
you're not from here, are you?

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So I go in and I asked, you
know, say hey, I'm looking

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there.
Already knew who I was as I'm

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looking for a place that's kind
of active for Sasquatch.

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Does anybody have any ideas?
Well, not really, but I'll tell

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you place, you don't want to go.
Here's, you know, there's some

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spooky stuff going on there,
nobody, but nobody goes there

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after night.
It is Hunter, and the town will

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not go there at night.
There's a weird stuff going

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there, nobody goes there.
Well, thank you.

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That's where I'm going to like,
that's like you don't tell me

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that's where I can't go.
That's where I don't want to go

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because that's where I'm going.
So there's a history with the

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Trail of Tears, you know, that's
where a lot of Native Americans

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died when they were doing the
March.

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The acara line has all the way
across to the west and so 90 for

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Native Americans died.
At this spot that I pick, I

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didn't know that when I picked
it, but I found out later.

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So anyway, we had a very
Successful Expedition.

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We got about a half a dozen
Footprints.

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Very nice Footprints of people
were really happy with that.

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We had some activity.
We went down at night and Harold

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could not go with us because
he's had a stroke in cancer.

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And so he can't do uneven
terrain at all and this is a

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downhill slope just like my one
in the Ravine.

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Yeah.
And so he stayed in.

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His truck in the parking lot.
While I took the for

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expeditioners down and we had
they were throwing a little

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sticks and Pebbles at us.
They were following as we're

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doing this deep ravine.
And up on top, you could hear

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them walking along and watching
this and, you know, bipedal

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walking, heavy footfall,
snapping Twigs, breaking

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branches.
You know, it's just plowing

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through the underbrush and all
that is dark at night and all

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that kind of stuff.
So we had some really

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interesting activity, I could
not get them to interact with

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this, that was the weird part of
couldn't get them.

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To interact with this by, you
know, a grunter whoopee-doo Loop

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and return.
They just would not communicate,

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probably.
Because then I wonder who he's

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crazy.
People are down here because the

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humans know better than to be
down here because this is where

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weird stuff happens.
There's the wonder who these

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people your said probably with
their kind of thinking there's

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something wrong with me.
Anyway, we go down there, we had

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a nice event for the night, we
went back home.

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We went back the next Saturday
night Harold stayed back at

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camp.
Instead of in his truck because

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he was just trying to relax and
you know, and so I went with the

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people, Saturday night was the
first day of hunting season and

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it was October.
So there was nothing going on.

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It was dead because there was
gunfire Hunters were up in the

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trees and stuff.
All day, I went back there

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during the day, check on the
print.

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See if they dried everything,
there was hunters, will all over

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the place so it was uneventful
that night, but overall it was

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very successful.
So we went back home and That

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was it 2019 2020 hit, and I
start writing my books and

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Harold and I decided you know, I
want to go back because that was

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really kind of a magical place
in the vibe there with the, the

444
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,200
murder and Mayhem that had with
the Native Americans added to

445
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,500
the, to the vibe, you know, she
was going to go back and see if

446
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:17,100
it still had the magic because
he lives there and he's going to

447
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:21,300
go back if there is some magic,
so we went back.

448
00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:26,800
And we went back on the day,
exact day a year to the day of

449
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,600
when we were there the last
time, like an anniversary and we

450
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,500
went back and we walked down.
He went as far as he could go

451
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:39,200
and we decided, you know, this
is cool.

452
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,800
There's there's something here.
This, this is who they should be

453
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,200
good for another adventure down
here sometime.

454
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:45,700
So I said, you know what I want
to do?

455
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:48,800
I want to leave a camera just in
case, you know how trail cameras

456
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:49,900
are.
You never get anything on them,

457
00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:51,200
but if you don't leave, when you
never will.

458
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,200
Well, except for the For the
gorilla, very sensible finger

459
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,900
there so that that one didn't
get the memo.

460
00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:01,100
Apparently, you don't walk in
front of a camera.

461
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,100
So I put my camera by that log,
that's on this cover.

462
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:09,000
I put my camera by the log and
so that way I could find it and

463
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,600
that that log is actually where
we stopped the year.

464
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,400
Before on the night, Ops we stop
there because they didn't want

465
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,400
to go any further because one of
the women was kind of freaking

466
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,800
out a little bit with all the
The activity.

467
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,300
And so we didn't go because I
didn't want her running amok

468
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:28,600
and, you know, just panicking
and running off what she might

469
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,800
have done.
So, anyway, I left I left my

470
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,200
camera by this law.
So we left there about 2:00 in

471
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,400
the afternoon, it was October,
it was covid.

472
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:44,800
There was nobody out in by 5:00,
5:30 is getting dark, so there's

473
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,700
nobody out and then we was, we
saw 20.

474
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:51,100
People course, nobody goes to
this particular area anyway, and

475
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,200
which we never saw anybody there
ever.

476
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,200
I've been there three times.
Never saw anybody there anyway.

477
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,600
Leave my camera.
We go back to spend the night at

478
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,500
camp and I'm go back and get
grab my camera on the way back

479
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:06,000
to Kansas City.
And so, I go back down there to

480
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:12,500
get my camera and I'm looking at
that log, I'm going What is

481
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,900
Rocks come from?
I just know there's nobody out

482
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:18,300
who would be putting these rocks
here and I was just looking that

483
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:21,400
I was going, that's just weird.
If there's nobody out here, it's

484
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,900
covid.
It's nasty and cold, and is

485
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:27,500
doing.
Whoo, wait a minute.

486
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:32,200
Wait, I'm looking at I get so I
get I get kind of Misty eyed

487
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,900
because this was them
communicating with me that

488
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:41,100
pointed rock is me before people
behind it or the for Expedition,

489
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:46,900
goers on the other end of the
log is a short fat round rock

490
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:50,000
that's Harold because kind of a
short round guy.

491
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:55,800
He was there but wasn't there?
Yeah it was it was you know and

492
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,600
I Could have just seen that and
gone.

493
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600
Well, maybe I just didn't see it
yesterday, but that was not

494
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,200
there.
It was not there.

495
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,800
And it is in that that pointed
rock is what told me?

496
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,400
I'm the leader.
I'm leading the Expedition and

497
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,800
there's four rocks behind me.
Those are the four people.

498
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,000
I was just, I was going eight
crazy.

499
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,500
No, pun intended.
I was just you know this oh my

500
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:19,900
God, I can't believe it.
Oh, oh shit.

501
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:25,000
You know it's a so I called my
wife and I'm telling her I said

502
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,700
this is with Orb thing happened
the night before she said, what

503
00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:30,900
time did it happen?
And I told her.

504
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:35,300
Well, I don't know, exactly.
But we left here at 2:00 and it

505
00:30:35,308 --> 00:30:37,000
got dark.
So it had to have been probably

506
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,300
sometime after dark.
I mean, I don't know well last

507
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:43,300
night.
Before you went to bed, I was

508
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:46,100
going to bed in an orb come
flying into the bedroom.

509
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,900
We've never had an organ a house
ever.

510
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:52,000
If we told you that story about
the oral, yeah, that was them

511
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,900
going.
I know where you live.

512
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:57,700
Gotcha.
And we're friends, you know,

513
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:04,500
your we're friends now.
And since 2019, I've started a

514
00:31:04,508 --> 00:31:09,300
list of all the weird things
that are happening in our house.

515
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:13,600
Voices.
Someone calling our name was

516
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,700
watching TV with my wife.
One night.

517
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,200
Something tap me on my head
three times.

518
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,200
I'm sitting on the sofa with my
wife.

519
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,200
Did you do that?
Do what?

520
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,800
You know, she's got her phone.
She's got our fire and we're

521
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,000
watching TV.
She's like media Queen.

522
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,000
She's gone.
She's not even paying attention

523
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,800
to anything, so I didn't do
that.

524
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,200
What are you talking about?
I said, we're something just

525
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,700
tapped me on the head.
The next night we were watching

526
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:44,400
TV, the TV goes off on our
coffee, table is the remote.

527
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,700
It Jules just a little bit in
the TV goes off.

528
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,000
I can hear it.
Kind of got out of rattling.

529
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:55,100
All the would somebody push the
button and turned our TV off?

530
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:02,700
Voices, knocks on the door,
someone pulled a pillow out from

531
00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:04,700
under my wife's head.
While she was sleeping one

532
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:09,300
night, something reached under
my legs and was Lifting me up

533
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,800
and carry me off to the side of
the bed.

534
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,700
All kinds of weird stuff.
I've started, this thing's

535
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:17,200
called strangest at home.
It's a Word document 3 pages

536
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,200
right now.
All kinds of bizarre things, you

537
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,800
know, lamb lamb goes flying off
the table, a little small,

538
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:31,800
little cheesy gland from Vegas,
you know, and I'm just trying to

539
00:32:31,808 --> 00:32:35,400
think of all the things, but the
voices, the electronics, you

540
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:41,200
know, knocks something calling
my name Carter Carter just

541
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,600
bizarre stuff yet.
And we hear this.

542
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,400
And we've had about 25 incidents
there, communicated with me.

543
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,400
And then, like, at night, we'll
get those.

544
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,600
I get the vision where I was,
they're showing me where there

545
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,200
live, and the kids are like,
chasing bugs, eating bugs,

546
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,500
they're playing with Uh, digging
in the dirt and couple of adults

547
00:32:59,500 --> 00:33:01,600
are just laying around and
they're showing me like a day.

548
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,500
In the life, I get these things
in my head, I'm not stoned, I'm

549
00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:07,100
not crazy.
You know?

550
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,400
And we both meditate we're
taipei's and so we kind of

551
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:14,800
meditate to get hits calm down
because we the day is always

552
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,200
rattling around in your head.
So as I get into that

553
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,000
transitional, you know, sleep
mode.

554
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,700
That's when I'm start seeing
these things in the coming at

555
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:26,900
me.
I'll see 45 faces, they're all

556
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,700
Of like kind of looking like
they're all looking into a

557
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:31,800
camera lens and they're all
trying to get their all

558
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,400
squeezing into.
Look at each other and look at

559
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,800
me and they're all trying to
squeeze into this one little

560
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,900
space apparently.
It's like a portal or something

561
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:44,600
where they all have to get in
one spot to where they can see

562
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:51,100
me just bizarre stuff, but it's
happening, you know, and I just

563
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:53,500
accepted it.
I said, well, thanks and I even

564
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:57,800
asked him what time is this?
This doesn't look like my

565
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,900
Missouri.
Is this your home?

566
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:04,400
And they said home.
This is home.

567
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,400
What.
Okay, cool.

568
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,100
So that they're showing me like
a day in the life.

569
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:12,500
Bizarre.
Yeah.

570
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:15,100
But you know, I've got people
telling me the same things, you

571
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:18,100
know, my, my guy with the, the
triangle, with the three

572
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:21,800
planets, you know, all of that,
he seeing things, they're

573
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,300
communicating with him, they're
showing him something, they want

574
00:34:24,300 --> 00:34:28,900
him to focus on, they're showing
me where they live a day in the

575
00:34:28,908 --> 00:34:30,600
life.
I've had this happen probably

576
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,900
somewhere in a seven to ten
times over three years.

577
00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:39,500
Okay, I've lost track of some of
the things that, you know, I

578
00:34:39,507 --> 00:34:41,100
could look it up.
But I mean, there's some of the

579
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:46,900
things that are going on.
I can't remember some of them

580
00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:53,400
door opening and closing you
know, tapping on a window lights

581
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,400
flickering but you some of that
really sounds like Poltergeist

582
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,200
stuff, you know?
I mean it does have like

583
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,200
Poltergeist but if they're in
here in a spiritual form that

584
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,200
could be them, you know?
But it started in earnest.

585
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,900
When I had that.
Real relationship announcement

586
00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:14,700
with this, the rocks on that
log.

587
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,700
That's when it started.
That's how I have to deduce.

588
00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:23,400
That that is them.
Just let me know.

589
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,200
We're here.
Good, that's awesome.

590
00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:31,500
It is just yo and it sounds
Fantastical you know in Jake's

591
00:35:31,500 --> 00:35:33,300
going.
All right, get me out of here.

592
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,200
Yep.
Well the problem is is that, you

593
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,900
know, I haven't had okay.
So I always Talk about that one

594
00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:42,600
camping trip.
I had up in dinky Creek,

595
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,700
California.
I heard the tree knocks, right?

596
00:35:45,700 --> 00:35:48,000
They're all around us.
It caused the drunks.

597
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,800
Like a, like maybe half a mile,
you know, or so away from us in

598
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,600
these secluded campsite stall.
Shut up when the knock start

599
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,900
happening and then the the yells
the really loud guttural screams

600
00:35:59,900 --> 00:36:02,200
and stuff.
Yeah, they shut up turned off

601
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,400
their music, we heard a rifle
shot and that didn't do anything

602
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,400
to deter what was going on
around us.

603
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,600
The next day, you know, keep in
mind, the whole area was super

604
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,100
Dusty.
And I mean, because it was just

605
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:22,200
bone dry up there, right?
But there is a huge footprint

606
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,000
behind my tent and I sent Jeremy
a picture of it.

607
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,700
And sure enough, you know, we
had six kids with us, like, you

608
00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:32,400
know, ten and under so over
there looking for other

609
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,300
Footprints.
But in the middle of, we're all

610
00:36:34,300 --> 00:36:37,300
of our tents are set up there.
Just kicking up all the dirt and

611
00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:38,900
dust and stuff.
There's nothing but little

612
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,400
Footprints over there.
And then, on the other side of

613
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,500
the tent going further, it just
went straight into Woods, right?

614
00:36:44,500 --> 00:36:46,700
So we had this little like,
clearing area, kind of had to

615
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:49,200
climb up in there with your
vehicle's, but it just like, so

616
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200
I had those experiences.
But other than that, I haven't

617
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,400
seen anything.
I haven't experienced anything,

618
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,700
you know?
Like we woe or anything like

619
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:58,900
that.
I mean, like, I'm not going to

620
00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:01,800
say that.
It's that I don't believe it's

621
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,300
possible.
I'm just hoping that I know.

622
00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:06,700
Jeremy, never wants to have an
experience with Bigfoot ever

623
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:09,900
against because he watched it
smash it a deer head into it.

624
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Tree.
And then drag the screaming

625
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,700
thing off into the woods.
But I'll, I wasn't screaming

626
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:18,000
after that.
Well, it was a discretionary

627
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,500
with its fact hanging over its
shoulder, and then it grabbed it

628
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:24,600
and just start smashing into a
tree and then rolled out, right?

629
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:26,500
Yeah, I know.
He says it all the time he's

630
00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:28,600
like I never want to see this
sort of stuff again.

631
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,000
Saw it once and changed my life.
I'd like to see that because

632
00:37:32,300 --> 00:37:37,500
until I see it I'm not going to
really pursue any of the, you

633
00:37:37,500 --> 00:37:39,900
know, extra type stuff.
Yeah.

634
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,100
No, I just want to.
I just want to see one straight

635
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:44,500
up.
But, yeah, I mean, you know, I

636
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:47,900
very much enjoyed listening to
you and, you know, yeah, it's

637
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:50,700
just, it's you said it
perfectly.

638
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:57,000
You said, well, you know, You'll
consider it it's it's on the

639
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,200
table.
I mean you at least go.

640
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:03,300
Well, you know, you know, people
are having these experiences,

641
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,000
you know.
And you know, Jeremy's wasn't a

642
00:38:06,008 --> 00:38:08,700
paranormal thing but at least
you know, they exist, right?

643
00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:11,900
You do you believe?
So, so they're so least that

644
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:17,200
Parts over with so you know and
you may get yet you may see or

645
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,400
hear something not for me or
something with some, somebody

646
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,900
else, some other books, some
other video that pops up.

647
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,800
Up.
Wow okay that's compelling.

648
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,200
I you know you know it makes you
think you know if you're

649
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,800
rational intelligent person was
into somewhat of an open mind,

650
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,500
even just a little bit, you
know.

651
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:39,300
I don't think that guy's full of
crap.

652
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,600
I don't think she's full of
crap, you know, but I can't

653
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,100
relate to it because it hasn't
happened to me.

654
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:46,800
But once it does, it's all over,
right?

655
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,300
You know, it just takes one one
thing and it just, it happened

656
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:56,800
to me multiple times and it was
just like, I was baptized by

657
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,700
fire.
I just, I had to see that they

658
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:05,300
wanted me to see it, or I would
just happen to be the random guy

659
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:08,500
that did see it.
And I could have been a neighbor

660
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:12,600
and just decided, Well, this
damn camera, you know, because I

661
00:39:12,607 --> 00:39:14,800
knew when I saw that one
disappear when I was watching on

662
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,700
thermal, you know, I wasn't
stoned, wouldn't High drinking

663
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21,500
my camera.
I have the top-of-the-line flare

664
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:23,600
equipment.
So it's a thermal camera, it's

665
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,700
working.
It just it's like a flash

666
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:27,400
moment.
Exploded fact, when I pull the

667
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,100
camera way, I was just going
right God?

668
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:37,700
You know, and so but It would
take something like that for

669
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:43,200
you, too.
Consider things because it until

670
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,600
I can tell you all day long.
Jeremy can tell you.

671
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:47,800
Anybody else could tell you all
day long.

672
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,700
I've been doing all my all these
Fantastical events but until it

673
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,700
happens to you and you're
probably very methodical guy and

674
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:58,900
so it you have to show me show
it to me.

675
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:00,600
I want to I want to show it my
logical.

676
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,200
Mind will comprehend it and
decide if that could be

677
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,900
something else or that's the
real thing.

678
00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:09,200
And so until that happens, you
know, but least you have at

679
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:10,700
least an open.
And you're sitting here

680
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:13,300
listening to all this and, you
know, and, you know, you made

681
00:40:13,300 --> 00:40:15,300
me, you know, say bad things
about me when we hang up.

682
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,300
No, he's along the rock, man.
You know, is actually really

683
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:23,500
cool is that after, after
Jeremy, and I had you on talking

684
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:26,700
about your Enigma to book, and
you had all the different

685
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:30,800
pictures in there, like the exes
in the tree, branches and stuff

686
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,700
and, and the hoops and stuff.
I actually went out to Jeremy's

687
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:37,700
house in Wisconsin because I was
considering moving out there,

688
00:40:37,700 --> 00:40:39,800
like, after I get out of the
Navy here in about six months,

689
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:42,900
It's plans fell through, but I
hung out with him for a week and

690
00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:47,900
his mom lives on was a 38 40
acres, so problems.

691
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:51,600
It's a spot.
There's like, there's apple

692
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,900
trees that are planted right
next to her house and where

693
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:56,900
they're actually totally ripe.
When we were their kind of

694
00:40:56,900 --> 00:40:59,000
towards the end because there's
only a few of them left on the

695
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,200
tree or whatever.
And they always get deer over

696
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,500
there, eating all the apples
that have fallen and everything,

697
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,500
but he and I went back there and
explored and we actually took

698
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:09,800
like probably ten minutes of
video on my cell phone because

699
00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:13,000
After reading your book and
seeing all the different

700
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,900
examples of things to look for,
it was filled with that crap.

701
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:19,700
I mean, I'm talking about
saplings that are probably 30

702
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:22,600
feet tall but they're completely
bent over in their end.

703
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,400
Their tops are stuck into the
ground.

704
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,600
Yeah, it's stuck.
Like they're, they're driven

705
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,200
into the ground.
Yeah.

706
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,700
There wasn't any something and
it, you start to think, well,

707
00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:36,000
maybe it grew like that and then
you just, you know, yank it and

708
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,500
just a Springs up right?
Or, you know, we're looking at

709
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:40,900
it.
And we're like, okay, here's the

710
00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:43,600
bend Point.
How much weight has to go into

711
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,700
this thing to bend it down?
Is it enough for a tree branch

712
00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,000
to fall?
Because I mean there's tons of

713
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,500
that to right there was like
this tree fell.

714
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:56,100
This big tree fell and it broke
apart into sections and then

715
00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:58,100
this one is just pinning down
the sapling.

716
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:01,400
But then there's other areas
where it's like, well, there's

717
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,600
nothing Fallen around this.
There's nothing pinning it down.

718
00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,500
The end of this tree is
literally stuck into the ground.

719
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000
And this is also An area where I
don't figure, there'd be a lot

720
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,700
of trespassers for one.
It's kind of out there and for

721
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:18,100
to they got really good gun
rights.

722
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,400
So I'm just like, I don't think
that would be a lot of

723
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,900
trespassing, like, goofing off
and stuff, but we had, you know,

724
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,700
10 minutes of just, I think we
probably had in the ballpark of

725
00:42:27,707 --> 00:42:32,900
maybe 20 different examples of
like hoop trees, X's, you know,

726
00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:34,200
areas where.
All right.

727
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,900
There's a big tree branch that
snapped off up here.

728
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,200
Now, let's find the evidence of
another tree falling on On it,

729
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,900
there's nothing around to show
that that actually happened.

730
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,400
You know.
And this is a very green tree,

731
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,000
right?
And so we had a lot of those

732
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,400
sorts of situations.
So even having that sort of

733
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,700
experience of being like, wow
there's you know there's a lot

734
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:56,100
more to this than we're thinking
and you know, this would be a

735
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:59,400
really good area for that
because there are some very

736
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,900
dense you know, secluded woods
around there with good water

737
00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:06,900
ways, you know, that sort of
stuff and a lot of natural

738
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:12,000
vegetation for like We could eat
like apple trees and Barry treat

739
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,700
it.
Very bushes stuff.

740
00:43:13,900 --> 00:43:15,900
Right lot of deer, lot of
Wildlife.

741
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:18,300
And so we're just looking at
where like and, you know, they

742
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:20,900
get black bear all the time.
They had one trying to break

743
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:25,100
into their, to their McDonald's,
in the family, you know.

744
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:26,800
It was crazy.
It was all over the, the

745
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,300
Facebook page for that town.
But yeah.

746
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:31,300
So being able to see all that
stuff and then have that

747
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:35,300
experience, so that just made me
more encouraged that, you know,

748
00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:39,500
eventually especially now I live
in California, my wife and I got

749
00:43:39,500 --> 00:43:44,200
a A trailer because we want to
go and get those those family

750
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,400
camping trips before we get kids
in the mix so it can be a active

751
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,600
thing.
Like hey, let's do her every six

752
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,500
months or every quarter type
trip and, you know, get the kids

753
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:55,000
off the screens and into the
woods to go hang out and have

754
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,600
fun.
But we're we've been exploring

755
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,300
that stuff we're about to go on
a hiking trip this weekend into

756
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:05,800
some like waterfall type areas
but it's just like getting

757
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,500
ourselves out there for the
possibility.

758
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:10,700
You know?
I So I want to spend time with

759
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:13,900
Whitney my wife, but but also
for the possibility that, you

760
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:17,100
know, all these sightings that
happen all over California.

761
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:19,700
It'd be really cool.
If I ran into one and I'll tell

762
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:22,800
you what.
If by chance I had my phone out

763
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,100
and I was taking a video.
I don't think people realize

764
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:28,500
that if you're not expecting
something like that, would be

765
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:30,300
the same thing.
If you weren't expecting a

766
00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:33,000
mountain lion to jump out of a
tree in front of you, the

767
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,300
likelihood.
You're going to have a perfectly

768
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:37,100
still camera and not shaking
because the adrenaline going

769
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:39,600
through you is s 0 is
ridiculous.

770
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,300
So yeah, I could probably take a
video if I if I was lucky enough

771
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:47,400
or if I had my insta 360 camera
or something like that but I

772
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,800
couldn't tell you that on its
little Boomstick.

773
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,800
I wouldn't be just shaking like
you're like a sapling in a

774
00:44:53,808 --> 00:45:02,200
hurricane or so right now.
So yeah, I mean, but I'm open to

775
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,300
have an experience and I loved
being on this episode.

776
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:07,100
I know people kind of give us
crap.

777
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,400
Sometimes I go why was the other
person on there if they didn't

778
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:09,900
say?
Thing.

779
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:12,300
It's like well I just like
listening to having the

780
00:45:12,300 --> 00:45:14,000
opportunity to engage if I want
to.

781
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:17,400
Yeah, the sorting and you know
and that's the that's the cool

782
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,900
thing.
So you know and you know, if, if

783
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:23,700
you're in an area where you
know, they're there or you've

784
00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:27,700
heard that, they've been there,
they'll come to you, if you just

785
00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:30,400
you and Whitney to sit around
the campfire at night, have a

786
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,300
couple of beers and Cook couple
of hot dogs and they'll come to

787
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:38,600
you, you know, you can, you
know, mentally talk to them.

788
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,500
Said, if there's a Sasquatch
here, can you give me a sign?

789
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:43,900
And I don't think they're
really.

790
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,300
I don't think they really react
really well too.

791
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:50,200
If you're out there whooping and
banging on trees and stuff,

792
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:54,800
respectful of their their area
and where they live, kind of

793
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,600
love this shit.
I want to experience you.

794
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,900
That's what I do.
I don't do that anymore.

795
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,300
Unless I'm returning a call, if
I get a knock I'll return it to

796
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:07,400
let them know in case they were
communicating with me versus

797
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,700
another member of their group or
Clan.

798
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:13,600
So, but, you know, if you, if
you just sit and enjoy the

799
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,500
night, enjoy the company of your
spouse and just the, the, the

800
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:21,100
woods, and the smells and all
that and just if they're there,

801
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:24,300
you may hear a twig snap.
You may hear of snort or a

802
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:29,000
grunt, you know, I mean you just
don't know but it's as easy to

803
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,800
have an experience if you wait
for them to come to you is if

804
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,300
you go out.
Look at, but seeing all those

805
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,300
structures and things when
they're driven in the ground

806
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:39,500
even snow, wait, does not do
that.

807
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:44,300
That is an intentional act, you
know, headed Neal 40, 50 pounds

808
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:48,400
of snow on a tree where it just
bent over, you know, you see

809
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,300
that a lot, but that's usually a
really big tree, but they're

810
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:53,400
driven into the ground.
The only other thing that I've

811
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,300
seen quite often is that they'll
use a law to pin it down when

812
00:46:57,300 --> 00:46:58,900
they don't drive it into the
ground.

813
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,700
And we saw that a lot.
Yeah.

814
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:07,200
Yeah, we saw that a lot in
relation to it was not from a

815
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,600
nearby fallen tree.
Yes.

816
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:12,700
So we saw ones where it was
like, okay, this obviously this

817
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:16,000
tree fell and it's snagged.
All these little ones in the way

818
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,400
and it's pinned.
Mm.

819
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,600
But we saw ones where it's like
this log.

820
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,200
Looks like, it went to that tree
but there's no way that there's

821
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,500
a 50 foot or 100 foot gap
between all these sections and

822
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:29,300
then this portion of it.
Yeah.

823
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:33,300
How did how did that base of
this tree get Away from where it

824
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:34,900
snapped, right?
It?

825
00:47:34,900 --> 00:47:37,100
And it's the part of the tree
that's up in the air.

826
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,600
Yeah.
You know how is your that's your

827
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,000
only answer and opposable thumb
and some fucking crazy upper

828
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,800
body strength.
Yeah.

829
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:49,900
Lifting some of these things.
Some of them are, you know,

830
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,900
100-plus pounds, you know there.
Yeah, denser wood.

831
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,100
Yeah, yeah.
And then in the first book I've

832
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:58,000
got all those structures and
stuff and some of them are so

833
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,700
complex.
I mean, they're not structures

834
00:48:00,700 --> 00:48:05,900
their art and like, I've said
before the stuff that's woven in

835
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,300
inter, inter woven right?
That'll never happen that you

836
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:12,500
could take.
Five, take five pool cues or

837
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:14,700
five yard sticks and throw them
up in the air.

838
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:17,400
How many times are you do that
before?

839
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:24,100
They will land into an inter
woven pattern you'll die they're

840
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:27,300
made, they're made right?
You know?

841
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,300
Yeah and if they're woven and
new, when you've got the

842
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:32,000
different species of trees, you
know.

843
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,100
You've got an aspen of birch, a
cedar tree right here.

844
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:41,900
And you've got this really
intricate woven structure that

845
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,100
has an oak tree and couple of
weeping willows in it.

846
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:47,900
Weird that come from.
Well, there's a tree over there

847
00:48:47,900 --> 00:48:52,100
like, you were talking.
Yeah, there's there's one over

848
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:54,500
there, but that had to have been
carried over because there's

849
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:57,000
nothing here.
It doesn't fall into bounce, 50

850
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:01,600
feet, you know, it's made, it's
made for a reason, you know,

851
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,000
it's just You know, they're and
they're they're communicating to

852
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,600
each other under our nose.
They're communicating with these

853
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:10,400
structures.
What they mean and we don't know

854
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,900
exactly you know the trees
driven in the ground upside down

855
00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:16,300
with a root balls up in the air.
That's a serious warning.

856
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:19,300
You stay away.
This is our area that if you

857
00:49:19,308 --> 00:49:21,900
ever see something like that,
that is a serious warning.

858
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,500
Don't come over here, not going
to hurt you, but this is like

859
00:49:25,500 --> 00:49:28,700
our clan maybe the two clans
don't get along very well.

860
00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:32,000
This is how our area so well
yeah, let's take a look.

861
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:34,900
See, you're observing things
like that so you know, it's a

862
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:36,300
real thing.
Yeah.

863
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,100
How real it is.
We don't know.

864
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:41,500
You know, I'm, you know, I'm
telling you all these stories

865
00:49:41,500 --> 00:49:44,400
that people would call me with.
I've got three calls to make

866
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,500
tomorrow or call the somebody
back with, you know, another

867
00:49:46,508 --> 00:49:49,700
crazy story, what's not crazy,
you know, right?

868
00:49:49,900 --> 00:49:52,500
Why I was every one of these
people they don't want to be

869
00:49:52,508 --> 00:49:54,800
known as the crazy Bigfoot
people.

870
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,200
So that's another thing.
There's a stigma to being

871
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,500
labeled a nutcase.
You you're seeing these things

872
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,100
that can't be Possibly happen,
you know?

873
00:50:04,500 --> 00:50:08,000
Well, it is happening.
And so, you know, if you met

874
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,400
some of the people, I mean, you
would know as soon as you sat

875
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,800
down and talked to these people,
how sincere they are, you know,

876
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:18,600
some of the have missing time,
some of them see craft flying

877
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,300
over their property right before
or after a that Squatch event,

878
00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:26,000
not all the time.
But just every nerve, you know,

879
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,700
get a guy in New England states
six hours of missing time with

880
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:36,300
the Sasquatch event.
Six hours before his name.

881
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,600
That's a long time for that
Library over there.

882
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:44,800
Oh, I have I have quite the book
collection.

883
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:49,800
It's I'm looking for a book
right now, but it's not my big

884
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,600
foot section.
So it's right here.

885
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,900
Stand Gordon.
Yeah you're right Stan Gordon?

886
00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:00,800
Yeah yeah he's got a lot of he's
like I have this silent

887
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,400
Invasion.
It's a great book, that's an

888
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,000
awesome but I have managed.
Some water is the Bible there?

889
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,600
That's the Bible is some wild
shit in here for anybody lives

890
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,100
in the Stan Gordon silent Vision
but by by cars book first.

891
00:51:14,700 --> 00:51:17,400
Yeah, yeah Miami.
Yeah.

892
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:24,300
But my guy in the New England
states he is a Very successful

893
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:28,800
business owner, he owns a
computer company.

894
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:36,000
He makes software and he
manufactures and makes parts for

895
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,700
computers, you know, but they're
really upper end stuff.

896
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,500
He goes and lives in the woods
on 100 acres or so in the middle

897
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:45,400
of nowhere, because he wants to
get away from the crazy Rat Race

898
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,700
world, and he had a Sasquatch
event one night.

899
00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:50,000
I won't bore you with it.
We're running out of time, I

900
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,800
think.
But anyway, the he Barricaded

901
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,300
himself in his very expensive
guard, dog.

902
00:51:57,300 --> 00:51:59,400
That was not doing any Guardian.
What's the?

903
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,600
You know, you next to an album
Predator, dog was snapped off.

904
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,600
The he, we decided that that dog
had been turned off because it

905
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,500
was a very expensive, like, five
grand just in training for this.

906
00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:13,100
German Shepherd.
Oh yeah.

907
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:16,200
Now where he has to he has to
say German commands to it, to

908
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,000
get it to listen to a sort of
training, dancing.

909
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,100
Yes, safe words, kill words and
all this stuff.

910
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,100
The dog was just staring at.
It was leaning up against his

911
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:29,400
leg, like he was just, he wasn't
himself, he was snapped off and

912
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,900
the Sasquatch was walking toward
him as all the workers were

913
00:52:31,900 --> 00:52:33,500
going home.
One night, it was walking toward

914
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:37,500
him and saw him in the dog Hall
acid, to go live of hiding, the

915
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:39,100
travel trailer that he's living
in.

916
00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:41,400
While they're working, on
remodeling his house and adding

917
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:46,200
on half of a house.
And so, he runs in barricades

918
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,200
himself in the dog in this
travel trailer and it's about

919
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:55,200
10:30 11:00 at night and he he's
a Sasquatch walking around the

920
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,900
trailer kind of looking in the
window and rattling, the door

921
00:52:57,900 --> 00:53:00,600
and just looking in.
And he's going, oh my God, I

922
00:53:00,607 --> 00:53:02,500
don't, I didn't bring my gun.
What am I going to do?

923
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:04,400
So it goes to the kitchen finds
a butcher knife.

924
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,900
Do him in the dog?
Go barricade himself in the

925
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:08,600
bathroom at a 30-foot travel
trailer.

926
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,300
You know how the big that
bathroom is about?

927
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:14,100
Three by three.
You standing like this with a

928
00:53:14,107 --> 00:53:16,800
knife in his hand pointed at the
door.

929
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:20,600
If you're coming in to eat me,
I'm going to do it again.

930
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,400
I'll kill you.
And the dog is just sitting

931
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,400
there doing nothing.
It's like, leaning up against

932
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,600
him.
It's almost asleep with his

933
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,700
eyes, open.
All right.

934
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,600
He wakes up at 5:30 in the
morning.

935
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,700
This is about 10:30 11:00 at
night.

936
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:37,000
Six hours later he wakes up to
the sound of the workers.

937
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:39,400
Coming back to work on the house
the next day.

938
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:44,500
He still like this six hours
later.

939
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:50,100
He still like the same position.
He was in six hours earlier, but

940
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:52,600
he's completely refreshed.
She's not tighter tents like her

941
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,100
and sit there all night, like
that.

942
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,500
But again, six hours to him
versus Sasquatch time.

943
00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:04,100
If it was Sasquatch It is an
entirely different thing, you

944
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:07,800
know.
And so he had no explanation, he

945
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,300
didn't even want to know.
He has the wherewithal to be

946
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:15,700
regressed hypnotically.
He says in this was a quote.

947
00:54:15,700 --> 00:54:18,700
He says I don't want to find out
I had a Travis Walton moment, I

948
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:23,200
don't want to know who I'm happy
to not know that I don't want to

949
00:54:23,207 --> 00:54:27,300
no maybe later but I have a
wife, a newborn baby and one on

950
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:30,200
the way I don't want to get
complicate my life, a trying to

951
00:54:30,207 --> 00:54:34,400
figure that out.
It And he told me the story and

952
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,600
it's, you know, he said, I just
don't want to know, you know,

953
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,000
I've been hit not actually
regressed.

954
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:43,200
You can you can get stuff out.
You know, you if you've had an

955
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,300
event you want to know.
If you're one of these people,

956
00:54:47,300 --> 00:54:50,100
that can't be hypnotized.
Well, that's too bad but most

957
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:53,800
people can and said my wife
can't be hypnotized but I went

958
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,000
under anyway.
So what are you doing?

959
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,700
Something like that?
This guy's an upper tier

960
00:54:58,700 --> 00:55:00,300
executive.
He's got a million-dollar

961
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:02,600
company.
He's running and he just didn't

962
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,300
want to hear it happened to him
but he just don't want to know

963
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,600
what happened.
Other than the part.

964
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,000
He remembers physically.
See it coming at it.

965
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,200
It was wasn't running after
because I wasn't doing this, it

966
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:19,100
was just walking and it was
coming straight at him just

967
00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:21,100
walking in a leisurely way.
The dog was getting his

968
00:55:21,100 --> 00:55:24,200
commands, and dog were sitting
here doing nothing.

969
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:28,700
It was switched off.
So, So that kind of stuff, you

970
00:55:28,707 --> 00:55:33,200
know, it's happening all across
America and all around the world

971
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,100
and people just started talking
about it because there's too

972
00:55:35,100 --> 00:55:38,100
much of a stigma, you know.
Karen, yeah.

973
00:55:38,700 --> 00:55:41,200
I'm trying to get these stories
out.

974
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,200
So more people will read them
and won't, you know?

975
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:48,500
That was a cool book you know
didn't Grandpa have a story like

976
00:55:48,500 --> 00:55:49,900
that.
Remember he used to tell us that

977
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:51,300
story.
Quit talking about it and he

978
00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:58,100
passed away somewhere right now.
Somebody, you know, is having or

979
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:00,700
just had an experience and
they're not going to tell

980
00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:03,300
anybody.
We're both of you guys know

981
00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:06,200
somebody.
You just don't know it because

982
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:08,300
nobody wants to talk about this
stuff.

983
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:12,000
It's the dirty little secret.
I know a bunch of woods people.

984
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,800
They said yeah probably.
No, but it is bizarre stuff, you

985
00:56:16,808 --> 00:56:18,900
know.
And if it's never happened to

986
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:20,800
you, it's hard to wrap your head
around.

987
00:56:20,900 --> 00:56:22,300
Give me if you have an open
mind, you do.

988
00:56:22,300 --> 00:56:25,300
So, I just point I just, I just
don't know if I can do that but

989
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:28,600
you know, it's a real thing.
It's real plan.

990
00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:31,800
All right Carter it's been a
pleasure, man.

991
00:56:31,900 --> 00:56:37,900
We got to start wrapping her up.
Yeah, it's perfect.

992
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,900
You're easy, it, you're easy to
interview.

993
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:42,100
We're going to do the same
thing.

994
00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,300
We did last time where to cut
this into episodes, you're going

995
00:56:44,300 --> 00:56:46,200
to You get two more out of us
here.

996
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:48,600
Know, it's been great,
unfortunately.

997
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,600
Whatever.
Yeah, well we'll be in touch.

998
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:54,700
In fact, I want to talk to you a
little bit after the recording.

999
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,100
So, so hang by but Zen Caster,
unfortunately, limits us at two

1000
00:57:00,100 --> 00:57:03,400
hours.
So sure, before it kicks us off

1001
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,600
and were unable to do our outro
and everything.

1002
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,900
Before we dude you that do
Carter, where can everybody

1003
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:16,700
follow you buy your books?
So, where can they contact you?

1004
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:18,900
If they need that?
They have anything that they

1005
00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:24,500
would like to pass on to you?
Yeah, my website is SQ.

1006
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:31,500
Explorer.com pretty original
Hub, does SQ, Explorer.com

1007
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:37,800
www.desktoplearn.com.
My email is SQ Explorer at

1008
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,000
gmail.com easy.
Again, pretty creative that

1009
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:45,600
Squatch.
And, you know, I I've got three

1010
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,700
books for sale, I'm
self-published so you can buy

1011
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:51,500
the Kindle versions on Amazon
but I don't my books would be

1012
00:57:51,500 --> 00:57:53,900
way too expensive because
they're full color and all that,

1013
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,900
you know?
And so Amazon would sell them

1014
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,300
for probably almost double what
I'm charging for them.

1015
00:57:59,300 --> 00:58:01,900
So but I'm self-published I do
all my own work and I think I

1016
00:58:01,900 --> 00:58:04,300
have a printer that prints and
for me, but no, the very nice

1017
00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:08,100
books so you can go to my
website and you can order them

1018
00:58:08,100 --> 00:58:10,000
off the website if you want to
buy all three, I'll give you a

1019
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,300
special price.
Just contact me with the email.

1020
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:18,000
Also, if you go to the media,
Section on my webpage, there's

1021
00:58:18,500 --> 00:58:23,700
50 or 60 of my most favorite
podcasts and I know you're to on

1022
00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:26,200
there, but there's podcasts on
there.

1023
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,400
You can just peel them off and
cut and paste them into.

1024
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,400
Put them on your desktop and
listen to whatever you want.

1025
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,400
We've got a bunch but you know a
bunch of my do I'm doing for

1026
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,900
this way.
I knew about 60 or so every year

1027
00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:42,000
podcast, I love doing them, you
know?

1028
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,900
So that's how you can get ahold
of me, you know?

1029
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,000
And I respond to everybody if
you call me email me.

1030
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:49,700
I'm all over.
You know.

1031
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:54,500
Yeah you don't hear from me.
I'm quite Hands-On with all that

1032
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:57,000
stuff.
So well that's awesome.

1033
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,700
I am also going to check out
some some of that stuff on the

1034
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:04,200
website as well I can endorse
Carter.

1035
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:06,400
I have all three of his books
right here.

1036
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,700
All three of them are here.
Thank you.

1037
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,000
And they are fantastic.
This last one evidence of a name

1038
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,800
with three.
This book is thick.

1039
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,600
I mean thick.
Vic and you're getting quite a

1040
00:59:16,607 --> 00:59:20,200
lot for what you pay.
And I bought the, I bought these

1041
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,300
books directly from Carter and I
would highly recommend you guys

1042
00:59:24,300 --> 00:59:31,900
do so too, because the pictures,
I every one of his books is full

1043
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:34,700
of pictures of everything he's
talking about.

1044
00:59:34,700 --> 00:59:37,000
So it's not like one of those
things where you're reading a

1045
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,100
book and you're like, man, you
know, I'm visualizing it,

1046
00:59:40,100 --> 00:59:44,300
visualizing it.
But and these books you can see

1047
00:59:44,300 --> 00:59:45,900
it.
Yeah they're there.

1048
00:59:46,100 --> 00:59:49,500
The evidence is there all the
evidence he's talking about is

1049
00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:51,100
right there, right in your
hands.

1050
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,600
Perfect.
Wonderful stuff.

1051
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,600
And I really like something
else.

1052
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:59,800
Carter, I like how you take the
words from the people who come

1053
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,100
to you and you use those in your
books.

1054
01:00:02,100 --> 01:00:07,700
I love that I love hearing it.
Coming out of the reporting

1055
01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:13,200
person's voice and then you have
your Is in there, which is just

1056
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,700
fantastic.
Well, thank not it works and you

1057
01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:20,300
know and they write the book.
Yeah, because I want it in their

1058
01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:22,400
words.
I don't want to say, well I saw

1059
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:27,100
a Sasquatch Thursday night said
that I have to take that one

1060
01:00:27,100 --> 01:00:30,800
sentence and turn it into two
pages, right?

1061
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,600
You know, they're telling me and
their emotion is in it.

1062
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,200
So that's that's what I want is
the emotion and the sensitivity

1063
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,600
and the effect that it has on
them and their family.

1064
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:42,900
That's that's why.
Why I tell them to send me a

1065
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,600
five-page email.
I'll make it just send me stuff.

1066
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:50,200
You can't flood me, right?
And then, right after that, you

1067
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,000
have Carter's breakdown of what
they're talking about and he

1068
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,000
kind of make some connection
with some dots that you may not

1069
01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:00,600
have really thought about, and
it's just awesome.

1070
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,600
Awesome stuff.
Thank you.

1071
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,600
Appreciate it.
No, I I will.

1072
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:05,900
Bye.
Every book that you're put out,

1073
01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:07,100
sir.
I'll just let you know that

1074
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:09,000
right now.
Almost are 14 books tomorrow.

1075
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,500
That's fine.
I will buy 14 books when they

1076
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,700
Jake you got anything before we
head out man?

1077
01:01:16,500 --> 01:01:19,700
No thank you for for coming on
and blowing our minds once

1078
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:21,100
again.
I appreciate it.

1079
01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:25,500
Yeah and you know like I said
you know it's crazy.

1080
01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:27,200
I don't want to use that word to
describe.

1081
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,600
Why?
It's off the charges?

1082
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:34,800
It's totally Star.
Trek dystopian bizarre, it's

1083
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,100
just like, this can't be
happening.

1084
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,400
But it really, really, is it
just, you know, buddy?

1085
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,100
It's a dirty little secret about
just talk.

1086
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,100
If you guys like the stories
that he talked about on this

1087
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:46,000
episode and the previous one,
because we're going to cut this

1088
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,700
into two, that's just the tip of
the iceberg.

1089
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:53,300
Trust me with a lot more lot,
more content in these books that

1090
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:56,000
you guys need to know about
last.

1091
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:59,300
Call everybody anybody?
I'm good.

1092
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:01,300
All right.
Well that has been another

1093
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:03,300
episode of the infinite Rabbit
Hole podcast.

1094
01:02:03,300 --> 01:02:07,600
I'm your host Jeremy and we'll
see you next path of the

1095
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,600
infinite Rabbit Hole.
Bye everybody.

1096
01:02:10,100 --> 01:02:11,600
Bye.
Yes.

1097
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:20,500
A by Carter?
Yeah, I bet I would like to

1098
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:23,700
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Subscribe button where for $5 a
month, you'll get access to all

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our old episodes that will never
see the free Spotlight ever

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again.
It's horrible stuff, but if

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you're into that kind of thing,
and go check that Second head on

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over to infinite rabbit
hole.com, and click on the irh

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merch, shop Tab and grab
yourself, a sweet t-shirt

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sticker or whatever else you see
that, you wouldn't mind own

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until next time.
Travelers, I'm Jeremy.

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And I'll see you at the next
fork in the path of the infinite

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rabbit hole.
This point in time.