Dinosaurs Are FAKE!?

0:34 Welcome back to the infinite route. Whole everybody I'm cancer. Let's introduce the guys get right to it. Let's bring in the guy who's presenting today. Jeff, how's it going? I quit. Oh! That was, that was fast. All, I guess we're looking for a new host Jeremy. What do you think about that? Nope. Oh, he has to do it. I think we should bring on. Grayson, this is his opportunity, but I have to do. What? Welcome wig. Hey, what's going on?

1:15 How you guys doing? So, those are super awkward introduction. So, anybody that doesn't know that was kind jars. Very first introduction. Just threw a right. And there's a kinds are take it because Jeff doesn't like to do his own. Introductions, you know, and randomly hit record and left me hanging there. Yeah. So We like to be the first to apologize for that. She was not ready. It's not her fault, although it's not easy here on the, if it Rabbit Hole podcast and we like to make it sure. It's not easy, especially for the new person. They're very mean to me. I thought it was a great intro. Ken's argue did a fan. Thank you, Jeff. You're welcome, Jeff. Your well, she didn't blow my mind.

1:57 It was just as good as the intro that I had to do for him. That once we are, we're talking about something that he's going to talk about anyway. Yep. Yeah we are talking about some funds today. We're talking about the fun stuff. The fun stuff that everyone's been waiting for Patiently. I'm so excited today is the day we're getting there. Has everyone been waiting for it? If everyone. Wait everyone, everybody that I know my mom's been waiting for this mom. Today is the day I'm I can't stop talking about it. I am so excited for this. We are use on. I don't know what he's gonna present.

2:37 I mean I know the topic that he's going to present but I don't know where he's going with this so I have I'm not ready. For it. So there probably will be a part to once I can think and research all the stuff where I, you know, I know he's pulling all the shit out of his ass but Go ahead, Jeff. Tell them exactly what you're going to be blowing our minds with today. Dinosaurs are fake man. That's it. Today's the day everybody we're going to do it. We're going to talk about how dinosaurs are fake by order Jeff of Jeffrey Hernandez. Yes, dinosaurs are fake dinosaurs, never existed, dinosaurs are a hoax and I already believed this based on prior.

3:23 Research, right? Just over the years of whatever. But doing this research to like put it down in writing, you know, it's one of those things you like research it, you type it up, you read it back, three or four times, proofread things. Well, Jeremy doesn't know anything about proofreading, but the rest of us who've read things, I proofread before I go on to the podcast, I don't proofread before I send a text or an email to some guests, to bring a moment, A logical stupid things you could possibly write down. Just everything smashed together. Weird spaces. I have a very, very bad habit of not proofreading before some text message or an email, very, very bad. So, if you ever get a text from me or message or email just know, whatever is on, there is probably not what I meant to say.

4:12 He's not drunk, probably just normal normal. Jeremy types, like a drunk Jeremy and I get some some Twist on here, thinking they're coming onto a three-year-olds podcast. But yeah, so before I do this, the Jeremy, you want to plug the stuff or do you just want to do that later? What do you want to do? How do you want? What stuff? I don't know if he's a good to go to the thing here. Check this thing out. I know it's getting, you know, we need help with, we help with reaching new people. So our buddy, Danny everyone want to throw a Danny out there. So our buddy, Danny over on Twitter, does a really good job. As friend, the word for the infinite Rabbit Hole, I just want to say thank you to Danny for that. Hey Danny, you know, please take some time, you know, if you really do appreciate the podcast and the work that we put into it, just let us know.

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5:50 So we put a lot of work into this and there's only so much growth that we can do on our own. You know, we can I can I can keep plugging the same people over and over and over again with with the episodes and everything. But the real growth is when people start talking about show. So if you guys start talking about weird shit like Bigfoot or how dinosaurs aren't real, just throw our names out there. Throw the infinite Rabbit Hole podcast name out there and let them know that they can listen to some what pretty good. Huh. Guests were the world's okay estate podcast. There it is. Yeah, that's perfect. That's a great description. The world's. Okay. This podcast we're going to make sure but no that's it. Make sure you check us out over at Facebook and join our group. The just search for infinite rabbit hole with the black logo. But white logo is the page where you can catch up with all the news and information on the show. The Black logo is we can get in on the conversation. Thanks, Jeff.

6:47 You're welcome. You could have done that too, by the way I could have. All right, so let's do this thing. I know everybody listening this probably thinks dinosaurs are real, so I'm already the crazy one just for bringing up this topic but that's a Playa I'm used to so excited. Oh, you're crazy. Well, I know that but you know I'm about to make everybody think twice, so artists So, everybody's heard me say a lot of crazy things, right? It's kind of my role as the conspiracy guy on this podcast. Sometimes I speak in generalities or very hyperbolic way.

7:44 It's usually to get you to think about something you might otherwise never consider and to do it in a way that either funny or just extreme enough for you to actually look it up. So you've all heard me say, things like space is fake or we live in a hologram and without much context to back it up, those things sound ridiculous today, however, want to talk about this, other topic dinosaurs are fake, but this time I want to give way more context and evidence to back that statement. And up fit. So let me say, for the record before we get too deep into this, I'm not an expert on this topic, nor my an expert in paleontology, but I like to think I'm somewhat of an expert. You conspiracy. And I want to try to connect a few of those dots or at least make everyone think for more than two seconds out the possibility that what we know of as dinosaurs isn't the whole truth and nothing but the truth as it's been presented to us since we were little kids.

9:05 So, let's talk about the current media and films about dinosaurs. And the indoctrination of kids, whether we're talking about dinosaurs the shape of the earth, history or even, Santa Claus. Deep indoctrination always begins with kids. So let me ask you guys this. Can you guys name a movie? You saw as a kid that had dinosaurs in Land Before Time for time. All of them. Dinosaurs. Yes, bark. Catatonia, I mean the show at the time before time came up but it didn't want to be an echo chamber. I play Arc.

9:45 Yeah, hark Godzilla. The one of the monsters on Godzilla, wasn't it? Tara Don. Godzilla himself was a dinosaur. No, no, he's a radiated iguana. Everyone knows that okay, whatever? Yeah. From the Bikini Island, nuclear testings. Everyone knows that Jeff. Carl didn't know. All right, for the record. Carl is the Cat. My cat for anybody listening? Like, who the hell is Carl? Charles cat. So nice, anyway. So, most people obviously think of Jurassic Park or The Land Before Time but even those movies, Full of misinformation used to indoctrinate people into believing and dinosaurs. First off both of those franchises are owned by Universal Studios which is owned by nbc/universal Otherwise Known as Comcast.

10:37 Why is this important a quick search of the top institutional, institutional holders and Comcast stocks will show you the infamous Black Rock and also the Rothschild own Vanguard group. They're the top holders of Comcast. Not I want to turn this into an entire episode, you know, into a deep dive on Vanguard in Black Rock. But if you don't know why, that's interesting, I'd refer you to another podcast where I did a full breakdown of these financial institutions. You can look up NY Patriot with Shadow band podcast and you'll learn everything you need to know about Black Rock and bangle. Now here's another Connection in regards to the Rothschilds, many people don't know this, but the Rockefellers and the Carnegie's played a huge and critical role in today's Educational Systems.

11:24 Back in the day, they spent millions of dollars influencing politicians and Foundations to change the entire way. We go about educating our kids, and introducing things like standardized testing and completely doing away with the traditional ways. We would educate the population. again, I don't want to go off on another deep ass rabbit hole, but just know that Bruce Rothschild has more than two hundred and twenty-eight Publications over at the Carnegie Museum of Natural History with over 5,700, citations, in the field of vertebrate paleontology, the study of dinosaurs, So for the small brains out there, that means he is quite a bit of influence on quote, the science and connection with this field and the promotion of the theory of evolution, which is also bullshit.

12:11 And just to finish up with this thread National, Geographic is owned by Rupert, Murdoch's news Corp. Which also owns 20th Century Fox with titles, such as Ice Age. Discovery channel is owned by Discovery Communications. And before I say it, can anyone guess who is the acting financial advisor for Discovery Communications? Rothschild Vanguard, BlackRock Universal Studios. The Rothschilds, a woman named Lori Rothschild, served on the production and development teams at the Travel Channel and the Discovery Channel. So I think we all get the point. The Rothschilds have not only a vested interest in keeping you entertained but also in controlling what you think. You know, and all of these companies have aired many films and documentaries about dinosaurs.

12:58 So, let's go to Jurassic Park for a second and long. Well, okay go, let's talk a little bit. Throw it at me. So, how long you said, 20th century? Okay, Comcast, let's go to that. Comcast has been owned by what? Comcast hold on. I gotta go back up. Here is owned by the Rothschilds or Vanguard right Black Rock right for how long? I mean, is this something since the initiation of Comcast because I know would you say it was CNBC nbc/universal NBC Universal. They were separate identities before they got bought out, aren't they?

13:42 Hmm. So, when The Land Before Time came out, this is a long time ago where they owned by Comcast at the time, I don't think they were owned by Comcast but black rawr BlackRock. And Vanguard group have been the main shareholders in literally almost everything. Yeah. Decades Vanguard literally owns everything in the fucking world. Yeah, well, either them or BlackRock it's like, hmm. They're the top to shareholders of a dude there's there are connections between the two as they're the same identity. Anyways sure. Yeah. Or that BlackRock actually owns vanguard's BlackRock is like big big right back. Black Rock goes back to like even ties into a lot of religions which like you said, we don't have really have the time to go through that, right? That's a whole episode, right?

14:33 So, but if you go, look up that NY Patriot episode with Shadow, Man podcast, like I did a whole breakdown me and creamer. Listed out all the institutions that they're the main shareholders in. Basically the point is these two financial institutions, own, pretty much everything in the world and that includes media, movies television, all that good stuff. And there's a reason I bring that up, but even the media is that you think would be on separate sides of of a coin. They're actually all owned by the same thing, right? Like they own the most Coca-Cola shares and the most Pepsi shares of scumbags. McDonald's and Burger King has he's better but, you know, dirty, dirty dirty, I agree. Pepsi.

15:17 But so my question basically is Because there's a, there's a time frame for everything, right? So is it consistent that everything that you just put out as you put out a lot of information, right? And there's a lot with the Rothschilds and then the was it the 12 families writing 13 families that control the world or are the secret society? Families are the Illuminati or whatever? Yeah, it's even above the Illuminati, isn't it? There's a CIA document that's literally called the 13 families of the The emblem on Salem, it's absolutely crazy. And the Rothschilds one of them, right? Right. And the wrong Miller's Rockefeller.

15:57 Thank you. So, just so everyone that's listening. That's kind of the level that Jeff is talking about right now. He's not just talking about somebody with a, it just happens to have the last name. Now, do you know if this Rothschild had any paleontology degrees or any sort of Dressed professionally in this enemy. Don't get ahead of me here. Okay. All right, all right. You shall continued unless you may also ask questions. All right, I'm just going to jump in no not as you're getting some sick tribal over that. Whatever that intro was though let me tell you cool man like a dinosaur growls. So back to Jurassic Park, Okay?

16:48 The beginning of the film. We see dr. Alan Grant and dr. Ellie Sattler at a dig site uncovering. A beautiful skeleton of a Velociraptor. The scene is a perfect example of how movies can warp the way people think about certain things. Can anyone guess what? The biggest problem with this opening scene was it didn't have feathers. Don't get ahead of me it. Nobody, I Glee. Nobody actually had shovels. That's a good point. I didn't even think about that. There are using toothbrushes to get through Rock, okay. The biggest problem is the fossil that they're uncovering.

17:28 This Philosoraptor is fully intact. I was just. Yes. That was going to be my guess. Is it was all in one piece, right? The whole thing was intact. So Cambridge University. Okay. According to Cambridge University, only one complete skeleton of a dinosaur has ever been found. It was found over 160 years ago, and of course, was sent to the controversial. Sir, Richard Owen of the British royal Society. The man who invented the word dinosaur. Why did I use the word controversial? Sir, Richard Owen has been described by some as a malicious dishonest and hateful individual. He has been described in one biography as being a social experimenter with a penchant for sadism, addicted, to controversy and driven by arrogance and jealousy. Others have stated that Owen possessed an almost fanatical egoism with a callous delight and savaging, his critics in Oxford University Professor.

18:27 Once described Owen as a damn liar, he lied for God. And for malice quote unquote, Sir Richard Owen has been accused of claiming many discoveries as his own and even ignoring the genuine scientific content of his peers. Let's just say he was a dick and full of shit, which is a conspiracy theorist comes at no surprise to me. Me once I learned about the British royal society and all of their Shenanigans. But again that's an entire episode in itself. So just go look into that. It's kind of the same thing with the black rock, Vanguard Rothschild Rockefeller Carnegie, the British royal Society. These are all the major families and institutions that have fabricated, all of the narratives that we live under, right? Okay.

19:12 Where was that? Another key thing to point out from that opening scene in Jurassic Park is when dr. Grant is explaining how dinosaurs evolved into Birds. This is also bullshit. It may come as a surprise to many of you considering that idea has been around for a long time. And even many museums still hold this narrative is truth. Many artists have depicted Velociraptors is having feathers and some of you may be familiar with the arkeo Raptor, a fossil found in China and the 1990s that many claimed was The Missing Link proving dinosaurs had feathers and thus adding to the theory that birds evolved from dinosaurs. Guess what?

19:56 That fossil was later determined to be a fake. It was created from various fossils to help push a narrative. In fact, a Chinese scientist named Chongqing who had initially helped identify. The fossil was the one who blew the whistle on a being a hoax, and now goes by the nickname piltdown bird. The name piltdown bird has some significance to this hoax. You guys ever heard of the piltdown man, no - there's also a negative for me too. Wow. I thought Jeremy would have heard of the piltdown man. Yeah, Jeremy. What the heck? Okay, I'm fucked up. So in 1912 and amateur archaeologist named Charles Dawson claimed to have found the remains of what was considered a previously unknown early human.

20:48 These remains were widely accepted to be a missing, link between ape and man furthering Darwin's theory of evolution. Once again this was a hoax like almost all of Charles, Dawson's discoveries. It was a combination of eight bones and human bones carefully, constructed and aged to look much older than they actually were. And it wasn't until 1953 that this was determined to be a fake and took until 2016, but the blame to be placed at Dawson's feet. Okay? So that was a long time for them to take this idea of this piltdown, man, and pushed his theory of evolution, right?

21:28 It was in museums and everything. God didn't hear this. I just didn't know the name of it. I didn't know it had a name, be honest with you, built down man, which is why they call, the archeo rapper, the piltdown bird because it was the same kind of hoax where they just merged bones together and faked. This whole thing, they said, the idea that dinosaurs evolved into chickens because of this one false, where they found feathers and dinosaur fossils was a hoax. So that whole idea there's no proof for but even still to this day you can go to And see that narrative being pushed. Are you going to go further into the evolution is BS? Line, a little bit?

22:10 Okay, that's not the main topic which I could do another show on that but I'm just trying to like bridge the gap because the theory of evolution hoax is like parallel to the dinosaur hoax because I just want to say that like it has always bothered me. me that the idea of evolution, right? That there's a timeline of like dinosaurs two chickens. Makes me crazy because it's supposed to be like a billion years or more like a hundred million years or something like that, that, cause that evolutionary chain. But that would mean that if there's such small itty-bitty changes along the way that you'd have hundreds of billions of these animals. Like literally, if the Earth was that old, and we have animals that breed the same as they do today. There'd be so many fossils would be tripping over them like as we walk or along the ground.

23:08 It doesn't make any sense that they would never have that sort of blank. And it wouldn't be such a dramatic. Here's a dinosaur, and here's one with feathers and here's a chicken. There it is. It would be you'd see them changing, you know, they get smaller and smaller and smaller and more feathers. And here's ones with you. No more pronounced wings and blah, blah blah. You see that entire scope versus just like, hey, here's a weird tooth that we found this Build a whole skull around and call it a caveman. You know, it just, it's always made me crazy. I'm so glad you said it is actually and that it's so true and that they're even doing that now currently with the human evolution, right? So for I don't know what century or more, maybe they've been telling us like, oh we found this type of early human and this type of early human and we have this whole thing, you everybody knows the picture where it's like a monkey, you know, evolving into a person writes on shirts and all kinds of shit. The like, literally you can look it up now. Where most most, what's the word I'm looking for? Like, I guess paleontologist.

24:11 I don't, I'm not sure if that's the exact same study of science, but most of the experts would agree. Now, that that's not the evolutionary line, we're seeing when we find these different humans, but they were just other types of humans. Right? Right. Yeah. Types of environments, you know, different whatever. Right. Right. Because now they're also finding Cities. I mean I brought up Gobekli Tepe that one time that's that doubled. The age of civilization. Just one Discovery, one place doubled the length of time from when we thought people were making cities and shit, right? So those types of discoveries, throw off the whole timeline but I'm going to get more into the timeline thing in a little bit so that's crazy. I always thought that it was just another type of velociraptor.

24:58 If anything that this one had feathers was like why couldn't they have all had feathers? He's right. It was, it was just her something like that to Nauticus. Yeah. You know, yes, it's like why we couldn't just have to be another type of dinosaur, so I'll fake to go over the fossil thing, right? It there is special. Circumstances that need to be in place in order for something when it dies to be fossilized. So a lot of times, you know, things die all the time, right? And they get heated and they get moved and they get decomposed and they don't get turned into fossils.

25:40 But usually, I know like whether they're in an environment that is extremely hot such as a tar pit or or even Very pressurized as in like a, like a rock slide or a Mudslide can cause fossilization basically, if it's open to oxidation then fossilization has almost zero chance of actually happening. But over time the fossil again dinosaurs are fake, right, but fossils, turn into more of a stone. Yeah. You know, and instead of a bone, yeah, fossils that are of that older petrified, right?

26:27 Same thing. That happens, the wood would actually turns into more of a stone after went once it's put into a similar environment. Yeah, as fossils, you know, it's the same way fossils are wood, gets fossilized by being petrified. so, the whole argument about us, tripping over a whole bunch of fossils and stuff like that, it would have to be extremely The, you got to think about this, the storyline where, what the environment was like, back then, where we were more volcanically, active and things were living around.

27:13 These hotbed areas to stay away from the growing cold, right? Because you also were you are On The Fringe of the Ice Age, then the Ice Age, didn't just happen like this, you know, it's something that Slowly spread south and we eventually got into one of the ice ages. A lot of people don't know this, but we went through multiple ice ages. It's not just one, but fossilization may have been extremely rare with between one time period, the next. And I'm not saying that I absolutely 100%. He's 100% believe in evolution. I am actually more on board with adaption. This is something that we've talked about or Jake and I think revolutio versus macro.

28:07 Yeah, right. Because even in the time frame that they're, they push with how old the world is or how old it can be even with these new discoveries that are happening every day, Evolution would still need more time. Right? And you would have to Evolution. I believe has a bad definition, you know, people look at a monkey and they're like how do people come from monkeys? Personally, I think there's more to it, more of a woo side to it than that. I don't believe that we directly descended from Monkey, but if you take a whole bunch of adapted traits by let's say 10, 20 adaptive traits that took thousands and thousands of years to adapt combined to them together, you know, you look at what it looked like before, it adapted what it looked like after.

29:13 Are adapted a couple thousand years. After you may see something that is completely different like that from a grizzly bear to a polar bear. They're the same, you know, technically DNA very, very similar. They can breed But they're not and you look at it you're like well. so when did a brown bear evolve into a polar bear, It's not necessarily Evolution. It's a bunch of adaptations that were grouped together and you're seeing these two species side by side and you're like, there's no way that a polar bear came from a brown bear.

29:56 But if you look at the genetics, they did, I think that we should put a pin in this, get back to how dinosaurs are fake and we should break this thing down because I'm going to start going into Consciousness and how that separates us from the monkeys and the eight. Oops. Well this is a really good point and obviously it helps it helps my argument regardless. So I'm going to dig into this a little bit because let's take it all the way back like way way back to when there was no life on the earth. Okay. How could you have certain proteins and amino acids just floating around freely adapt into a single-celled organism? I actually know a little bit about this, so there's two different.

30:41 And theories about how life got here on Earth, scientific theories. Right there is the primordial ooze, where a whole bunch of proteins amino acids, which is a protein, you know, got super heated and then Super chilled. Superheated superchill, and he eventually created one cell are single cell organisms, which slowly adapted or evolved into multiple cell up whatever. Then you go all the way up to human beings. Then there's the transporter Mia. Believe it's called any of you guys familiar with about panspermia panspermia. Thank you. Yes.

31:21 Meaning that life actually like these microorganisms were actually hitching rides on Old chunks of planets such as Mars like, alright, sir, asteroids, I mean they all come from something, right? They come from some sort of body if you believe space is real. Just add that to the list of stuff that Jeff needs talk about at some point and let's say like Mars. Right, let's say it. Asteroids slap Mars, real good. And at some point it did have single or multiple multi cell organisms on it and those organisms travel through space which we know can happen because a tardigrades tardigrades, also known as water bears are microscopic. Did we just lose Jeremy just lose it. Thanks for the information anyway. Yeah, but we still have, we don't know. I don't want to cut him off, but we still have those microorganisms.

32:26 We still have tardigrades like, how long have they been around and they haven't evolved into anything else besides more tardigrades, more single-celled, organisms. It's like it can't be replicated. It's just a adult fairy tale. That's all I'm hearing is, it's like everything. It's just like all these theories are just adult fairy tales that can't ever be replicated, you know, it's like that heating up and cooling down. All right, we'll do it. Show us how it turns into something, Ivan kravec, theory of evolution for so many reasons, and panspermia have a problem with because we can't, we can't travel through the Van, Allen radiation belt now. So, why would single-celled simple organisms be able to travel through the Van, Allen radiation belt to get here, too. Begin right and say like the ones that came from Mars or some other planet, it's like, okay, cool. Well, where's their life?

33:15 You know, where's where's all the animals and stuff that are on Mars because of all the single-celled organisms that apparently just evolved, right? It doesn't make any sense or the idea that the fish decided to walk on land one day, if a fish comes out of the water, it's dead within minutes, it would require A hell of a long time of it existing on land in order to adapt and evolve to where it was breathing oxygen from the air and walking around on the ground. Every fish that would crawl out of the water or Flop onto the beach would be dead before it had the opportunity to develop, that's why the Apes walked into the water and didn't come out their Maids. But like, I mean, we do have fish, right? That was, it's a specific type of catfish that can travel from one mud pit to in them.

34:03 The other mud pit, and they can kind of flap their their fins around and quote unquote, walk to the next area and stuff. And I don't know. Just based off top my head, I don't know if they're, they're breathing air or if they're just holding their breath and not having to breathe, but in any case but we've known about those Fisher forever. They haven't done anything else. Besides exist as that one type of fish, you know, right? They didn't evolve into a freaking mountain lion right there. Still, we lost you there, Jeremy Gosh, you were so gone. I should have, I should have screamed out Jeremy. No, but the the conversation is riveting. We're talking so much. Crap about you is great. I'm sure you were basically. We're just continuing on with the evolutionary thing and how it's probably bullshit.

34:52 Anyways, unless you want to finish a thought that you got caught, I don't remember where I was at. We're talking about the target tardigrades anyways. Yes, I'll tardigrades tardigrades can live in the vacuum of space. It's been proven blah-dee blah blah blah. So if there was something similar to a tardigrade or Target raise themselves from Mars and Mars got slapped by an asteroid and one of those rocks happen to land on Earth. And Earth at the time had temperatures that could house those kind of creatures. Then that's where the, the panspermia Theory comes from.

35:34 That's the only thing I brought up really to combat that panspermia idea, is the Van Allen radiation belt. I don't think that tardigrades are well, at least from the radiation that we can safely measure. Because I want to say that after Why am I drawing a blank here that nuclear facility that blew up? Her Noble Chernobyl. Thank you, even after Chernobyl went down. They were, they found living animals, like, animals and it definitely tested oils and stuff. And found some, some small even multi cell organisms. So I think I think tardigrades are good. I wouldn't say that tardigrades would be completely killed off by the by the radiation field.

36:32 But I was like, I don't know for sure my comment on it was that if they did in fact come from Mars or one of the other planets in our solar system than, where's the life that they would have evolved into? Or if they were tardigrades, we still have tardigrades so they never evolved past being tardigrades. So, either way, even like that whole Heating and Cooling of the the proteins and stuff, it's still Can't be replicated. So I mean in my mind it's just a cool idea. That's now preached as like truth, right? It's just like they call it a theory but it's taught as if it's the truth and it's just like well if it's just something that you made up that you can't ever replicate then why are we talking about it?

37:21 Like it's you know, this is how it happened. Well this goes back to the Carnegie's and the Rockefellers, creating the entire educational system and all of what we Everything we learned in school comes from the Rockefeller and Carnegie education system, and they have deep connections to this dinosaur. Hopes to, that was why I brought that up again. Mmm. But anyways, so Damn it, Carl. He's making muffins on my leg hurts. So the two examples, you know, the piltdown man, piltdown Burr, right. There's a lot more than just these two hoax examples. Okay. And I brought those up just simply to prime your mind to the idea that what is and has been widely accepted as facts regarding the discoveries in the field of paleontology and archaeology have a history of being faked and distorted the maintain control over the narrative surrounding. Not only Our own human history but the history as presented to us of evolution as a whole.

38:21 So that's just what we were just talking about. So let's talk about carbon dating. One of the biggest reasons I think dinosaurs are fake is because many of the discoveries that are made are given extremely elaborate explanations as far as their Origins and evolutionary, history problem with that is most of the explanations have a foundation built on assumptions and even worse, outright fraudulent discoveries. So let's go through a few examples. First off carbon dating it's widely accepted that one of if not the most common way to Eight findings in archaeology or paleontology is with carbon dating.

39:04 Unfortunately, it's not an accurate way to measure the age of many discoveries in order for carbon dating to be accurate. We must know the ratio of carbon 12 to carbon-14 what the ratio in the environment in which the specimen lived during its lifetime. Unfortunately, the ratio of carbon 12 to carbon-14 has yet to reach a state of equilibrium in our atmosphere. There's more carbon 14 in the air today than there was thousands of years ago. Furthermore, the ratio is known to fluctuate, significantly over relatively short periods of time. And example, during the Industrial Revolution, more carbon-12 was being produced offsetting the ratio.

39:48 Now, take this into account when we think about things like cataclysmic events, such as the younger dryas event, that I mentioned back in the Atlantis episode or such events like Pompeii or the Kraken. Eruptions. There have been many events in just the last few thousand years that could and would offset the carbon 12 to carbon-14 ratio, there are bunch of other factors that go into the accuracy of carbon dating. But generally speaking, we can get quote, reasonable accuracy up to about 50,000 years and better accuracy more recently. So, in a nutshell, the methods used for determining, how old something is isn't as reliable as many people would think. Especially when we're talking about time spans in tens or even hundreds of millions of years.

40:37 I have a question about carbon 14 just to clarify. So I've heard that that's this is how we figure it out. Is that the half-life of carbon-14 is like 7000 years or something like that. But I don't know what that is based on like what was initially initially measured to say that. This is the half-life of carbon-14 if this is only been something we've studied probably for the last hundred years or so, probably even less. It's like, how would they know that it's not Three thousand years like it if it deteriorates to a certain point consistently and then rapidly deteriorates.

41:27 Like it's just like one of the issues I have with science is that a lot of the stuff a lot of the science that are the the theories and the experiments that we do. There's no long-term studies because we've just become Advanced enough to look at these. These things and look at things out in the universe and look at things on the earth and just say, like, like, oh, cool, let's start studying this, and let's start looking at that to make wild assumptions about something that happened, or that takes thousands of years, to do. When you have no proof of. That is interesting to me. I mean, I guess it's a you got to start somewhere, right? You can't just say, well, We have no idea, really, how long it takes to work, carbon-14 to, to completely deteriorate, we have no idea what the half-life is. So we're just not even going to bother, I guess. You have to start somewhere and it can get proven wrong, you get proven wrong, and then you readjust, right? But it just seems weird to me that. There's, no, we have zero long-term evidence of this actually occurring.

42:35 A base, you know, a lot of that off of the sun's radiation. Okay. The problem is a get, just like you're saying they bait, they base it on a lot of assumptions. That the Sun, the sun's radiation output has been consistent for all of time, essentially, right? And, and most of these scientific studies are actually at odds with each other. So, when the younger dryas, you guys remember, the younger dries event that I talked about? Out with the Atlanta story. That wasn't even accepted for a long time. Couple decades, it wasn't even accept and now it's accepted. So, you know, they based all of these things like carbon dating and everything else, but they didn't even take into account things, like younger drivers or the Krakatoa eruption, which would have had a massive effect on everything. Whether you're talking about, like the boundaries in the Earth, where they're digging under and saying, oh, it was under this layer.

43:33 So it must be this old like they're not even Into account. All of the events that have happened. There are only looking at it from one perspective and that perspective, is this theory of evolution and it's based off of assumptions and fraud. So totally understand where you're coming from there, Jake, it is a good question. It's, you see what I'm saying? I have a hard time articulating it because I'm not, you know, fluent in this sort of stuff, but that's just the thoughts rattling around in my brain to its kind of cleared up, right science, always changes. And I'm just making excuses for science. I used, are you heavy? I mean real heavy believer in science. I was when I moved to Florida from Connecticut I live with my aunt and uncle who were very, very heavy into science and I learned a lot.

44:22 I learned a lot. I had to study certain things all the time and constantly ask some questions, my uncle who has a turtle, biologist a turtle bite. Ologist. Yeah, nice, that's cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Jill got out Turtle Joe. That's his that's his nickname man. Yeah, that's a great man. Like Joe Exotic but for turn oh no. He's my turtley enough for the turtle club. So you know, Growing up science was was right, right. It is his kind of kind of like growing up where science was the religion in my household.

45:10 And, you know, now that I'm a little older and I kind of can see through the writing and see what's really on the wall. It's it's questions. Like what Jake does ask that kind of open you up and you're like, hmm, okay. Well see what they're really doing here is they're guessing and, They're saying that. Carbon-14 dissolves or degenerates or whatever you want to call it. Degrades will go a degrades mhm. Right?

45:51 This much any in the the time span of a year, okay? So how long do we have to wait for it to be all gone? I don't know what was the answer, right? How what's the half-life on? Seven thousand years or something said that I wasn't here. So, like okay, if by math, Standards, it would take 14,000 years for carbon. 14. Yeah, it's Half-Life right then it cuts in half from there and cuts in half from there. What? It's like, exponential degree of Integrity, right? No fucking idea. Great or they don't know, it could be. I mean, they keep the 3,000 years old and simply just disappear crumble. I mean, think of like any other physical substance in the world, right?

46:39 We'll just take bones. For example, bones will will literally Lose all their moisture and crumble away and then now they're just dust and dirt and with the rest of the world and then like literally after a good couple years you can sift through a dirt pile, where the bones were? You can't tell the difference between dirt and Bone. I like what Jeff was saying with the, the different levels of carbon-12 and carbon-14 because say, like the Dead Sea Scrolls, for example, we have a pretty Any good idea of like almost a really good idea of when certain Scrolls were written by the Apostles of Christ and stuff like that.

47:26 This is how you know theologians date the Bible and stuff. When did Paul Live? When did John live? You know, did they live around? The time Christ was here, you know all this other stuff when were these writings taking place And we can say that from like they're right, 32 ad or 33 ad when, you know, Christ was killed and resurrected. Until now we can say this is the time frame and then we can look at the Dead Sea Scrolls, or Scrolls that were written in that time by his Apostles, or whomever rotor the copies that were written. After, you know, people try to wipe them off the face of the Earth. And we could say like, okay well let's test these things and say Say you know what's the level of carbon-14 carbon-12 and these and then use that as you know or any sort of like known archaeological, things like say if you had stuff from the Greeks or the Romans or whatever. Right?

48:22 And say okay well we're going to use this as our example to then say well this is the way it is but I agree with what Jeff was saying if no one was around to. Study the fluctuations of how much is dumped in the atmosphere and all that stuff. Because Pompey was a huge cloud of cataclysmic event that. I don't know may have blown Ash worldwide, you know I could have done all kinds of crazy stuff when that mountain exploded but like all these different changes of the earth and stuff like that, it goes into a lot more issues that I have. That it aren't doesn't belong in this episode but it's like II like that. That would Jeff said that if that's not taken to account it, can drastically offset, this known, this is how old things are.

49:13 Yeah, you know especially if it's past that point past our archaeological realm. You know, if we get to this area where Jeff was talking about Atlantis, all these ancient civilizations that just blew our minds with how old you know, people are Are after that then you know it go back, 100 million years, right? It's like I mean like how many Like earth-shattering events, do we have multiplied over the years? Like, I'm not talking about like, like asteroid crashing to the Earth, killing all the dinosaurs, or an ice age, or something like that. But small events that Where I guess they would be big events but not like extinction-level events, right?

49:58 I'm going to stop talking. I can't like articular was sort of stuff. I got one thing then one thing hat and that's just you know, there's the ugly side of science where you know, science gets ahead of itself, right? But there is also a good thing of Science. And when science is done how science is supposed to be done. Science can be a really awesome tool. Oh yeah and the the whole thing about science is that whatever they're trying to It is a puzzle and they're finding pieces. Like for example, if we're seeing layers and in the ground, right? And we come across a really dark layer and looks like everything's fucking toasted, right? Or a layer of obsidian.

50:39 And we're like, okay, there was lava here, right? And they take it right, and we see an inch of this obsidian here, and 3 inches. As we cart start moving this way, couple miles and then we get 100 miles there. Now, we have a foot of obsidian And we can get to a point where boom now, there's no Cydia gone, right? And we measure around, we can get a pretty good idea that the volcano is right here. Yeah. Right. And that's that's kind of where science does it and I don't know all the pieces when it comes to carbon-14 and all that stuff, but I would assume that there's somebody somewhere doing their job as a scientist in the carbon field. Sitting down and saying okay we have all these pieces right? But the problem is that we have all these pieces that were missing.

51:33 So my best guess. Is 14,000 years or 7 thousand years for Half-Life, right? That's that's how science Works problem. With people is looking at science as is a absolute certainty and it doesn't really matter what we're talking about science in general. Okay, science We're looking at things to learn about it. That's why I hate when cryptozoologists get, it's such like ugly looks and stuff. Why are you looking at Bigfoot? Hey, we did it. Yep, I knew was coming Bigfoot's, right? So people look at people that are interested in the topic of Bigfoot, and they're like, well, what the fuck are you doing, right?

52:23 Why are you looking for a mythological creature? The purpose of science is to Fill in all the blanks, we're just looking for that missing piece, right? Well, here's the. All right, I'm going to go to other ever know. That's that's pretty much it. Yeah, I just didn't want people listening to this, you know just turning their back. Science deniers, fuck you science. You stupid. Fuck the problem isn't necessarily science in is in and of itself. The problem is the indoctrination of unknown things that are based on assumptions, right? So when you have like, Carnegie's the You have somebody like Bruce Roth child right? Who's cited 5700 plus X invertebrate paleontology.

53:05 Okay, so he's one of the Thirteen family Bloodlines. He's already sketch in my book. He's sus okay, he's excited. Super 6,000 times in this particular field that we're talking about with dinosaurs and paleontology, okay? He can literally say something and it'll get put in museums. Right. Not only does he have the social credit Nation because of his sightings in his Publications through the Carnegie Museum, but he has the money in the funding and the political and scientific ties in the people. And this is just one example of people throughout history of had these types of connections and pull in our society, to be able to say, let's make a dinosaur exhibit right?

53:53 And for 50 years, 75 years or 100 Years. Everybody looks at that as if it is the truth and is the fact of the matter until science does its job in 100 years and they decide oh we fucked up in the archeo wrap. There was a fake. Sorry this will get you all riled up. Me and my wife went to a dinosaur exhibit, a couple months ago and the children's it was turns out I was for kids, I didn't know. They just said, you know, 100 dinosaurs blah blah. I was like, oh that sounds cool. It was for kids but we went over there they're all animatronics and stuff but the main event meeting a dinosaur. It was one of those dinosaur type costume things for the person walks around in it and they got the, they got the, the leggings.

54:43 So you can't really see the legs. And it's like running around like biting it people and stuff. It was a velociraptor completely covered in fur in, not Fur and Feathers. Perfect. Exact perfect example, right? So how many kids are going to go to that exhibit or even adults are going to go to the exhibit and walk away from that thinking that science figured it out, they had feathers. Hmm right. And then this guy now these kids grow up to be professors and the it just goes on and on and on so we could stuck in this deep and Doctor nation multi-generational duck and opted not to mention all the tick-tocks and whatnot that go around about this sort of stuff as well. To like I saw I want the other day. Why are T-Rex is arm so short.

55:28 Well, because they're not arms their wings. Yeah, I'm sad. So it's deep and that's the problem. That's, that's why I laid out the first part of this, the way I did was to just kind of again to prime your mind for the idea that the Deep level indoctrination is deep, right? Could you imagine the T-Rex flying around? That would be hilarious just like running around like you know, just like wings and just like, and these Hunters laughs, like it's gonna remember you and it's like, alright, clucks, like a chicken instead of like the sound that they make in Jurassic Park, it's just like a chicken Zone. It's ridiculous.

56:11 Absolutely ridiculous. There's something doc, there's no hard evidence to show that they had feathers or that they evolved into birds in Act IV. I didn't write this one down. I should have but I didn't but anybody can go look it up. There's a study. That was done. I think it was from, I want to say Oxford University but I could be wrong on that. Where they a team analyzed? All of these dinosaur bones because they were kind of like, really, they were going back to double-check the, the bird Evolution Theory and they discovered, and I think it was the femur. I don't I, again, I didn't write this down, so I might be having some of these things wrong, but you'll get the idea. They analyzed and showed that That birds have a specific bone structure. I think, in like their femur that allows them to fly and to tuck their wings and all these types of things.

56:58 And when they looked at all the dinosaur fossils, quote-unquote, dinosaur, fossils, none of them had those characteristics. So they concluded that, that was not true at all. Not only because of the archeo wrap their hoax, but just in general, dinosaurs did not evolved into birds. So, So if the Rothschilds and all these like high-level families are controlling the narrative, how many areas do we have? Studying the opposite where they're like? So no that's not how it happened. And all sorts of stuff, is it just a couple different places? A couple a couple? You know, Christine you know, good colleges and stuff where they're just like hey let's argue against you know let's continue with what science should be which is someone makes a theory. Someone makes an imposing.

57:46 Theory, there is something which one lines up, right? It's actually really interesting, and this is a whole other episode again, but some of those same institutions like the Carnegie's, right? They actually have counter-arguments to a lot of this stuff, as well. So, there's studies that are funded by the Rothschilds, or by the Carnegie's or whoever you want to take your pick, that will actually go against the theory of evolution go against dinosaurs. So it's like a controlled opposition thing. They're doing this 21 create confusion, right? Into, there's like a it's like the universal karmic law. They have to in some way, give you the truth or insinuate the truth so that when they give you the LIE, they're not held responsible for it.

58:32 Whether it be by Karma or by judgment or whatever, whatever you want to frame it as so they give you the truth on one hand and the hoax, on the other hand and they just let us fight. About the whole thing is the dress. Blue and gold, or is it? Yeah. Anyway. So let's get, let's get into this a little more, right? So we talked about a couple frauds, right? The piltdown man piltdown Bird, right? And trust me, there's a, there's a lot more. There's a shit ton more frauds out there that I'm not even going to bring up, because we'll just be here for days. But anybody could just look, you're interested in this. Just go look for paleontological frauds or archaeological frauds. Not on Google. You can do it. All right.

59:12 I wouldn't suggest goo But let's get into another important piece of the Frog, the bone Wars or the great dinosaur Rush, okay? The bone Wars took place in what's known. As America's Gilded Age from about 1870 and 1900 us was going through massive changes and advancements and economic growth scientific discoveries and industrialization I could go on for days about why this time was important in the mass indoctrination of the population. In many things I like to use the term Um, this was the birth age of scientism. So I know Jeremy, you know, you're familiar with this term. I think I've brought it up on the show before something. I don't know.

59:57 But the, it's just the idea that science is the new religion scientism, okay? And the Golden Age was the birth of this scientism religion, right? I don't really have much else to add to that. You're right. Science scientism is I'm not gonna talk about it. I'm gonna leave that one alone. We get it right. Everybody gets it. So during this time period, a couple of important figures were balls deep in a rivalry to discover the most dinosaurs their names were othniel. Charles Marsh and Edward Drinker, cope, there's some super interesting connections with these two dudes in relation to the British royal society, and with their predecessor, Joseph lady who actually gave up paleontology citing the lack of funding and interest.

1:00:46 Although I would argue he gave it up due to all the fraudulent work being done in his field by his peers. So, OC Marsh and Edward cope would go as far as the fake findings, or even claimed the others findings as his own, they would plant fake. At each other's dig sites, Forge reports destroy digs and do pretty much whatever they could to discredit the other. They would even destroy their own digs. They would find a bone set and they would destroy it so that nobody else could find it. Now, I have all of the conspiracy theory about why they were doing that. But what kind of get to that at the end? So again, this is why we call it the bone Wars, right? Because of all of the shenanigans between these two, there really isn't much.

1:01:37 I can personally stand behind to say that they weren't completely full of shit. And just like Charles Dawson much of what was considered amazing discoveries by these two, guys turned out to be fakes. I take a little bit of a turn here, okay. Fossil fuels. So, I've stated not only on this show, but my other show the term fossil fuels is a way to alter our perception of our primary energy source, right term fossil fuels, most people don't know this, but there are no fossils in fossil fuels, I believe this term was invented to add to the idea that what we drill out of the ground, has a limited Supply and we could run out at any given moment.

1:02:28 Fossils are rare. Does fossil fuels must be pretty limited, this allows the controller's of the world. Or as I like to call them the parasite class the ability to put a price tag on crude oil. That goes far beyond the labor cost for drilling and refining, think supply and demand and scarcity verse abundance. If we think this fuel source is becoming increasingly scarce, the justification for the rise in fuel prices is baked, right in. This is kind of a side rail from dinosaurs but I figured, I'd take The opportunity to plant the seed and everybody's Minds. Any questions before I get to this next part, man. I, I saw a video not too long ago where they were totally breaking. I think down and one of the comments of it was just like this guy said that he retired after 20 years in the oil industry it was crazy.

1:03:18 Everyone knows that petroleum is an element and that it's so plentiful. He's like he's like we would dick drill a hole in the ground. We'd find like a mile of oil and then just say, all right, well, Not this spot and then cap it off with concrete and move on somewhere else. Like like there's just video so much of it there and they're not only bad. They would they would empty or a reserve, right? They would drill down, they would empty the oil Reserve that's down there they would come back. Five ten years later and it would be full again. So this idea of a limited fossil fuel is bullshit. So yeah.

1:04:01 Are you trying to say that they use the term fossil to try to basically catch dumb, people being dumb? Yeah, pretty much cuz also the word fossil fuel. If if I'm remembering correctly, comes from the idea that this is very, very old plant and in a smaller case, animal matter. Mmm. That went through a form of fossilization where was superheated and they have high carbon counts in them. Apparently that whole narrative is just that it's a narrative. Like there's more Petroleum in the earth than there is water. That's that's not yes.

1:04:49 On on the surface. Yep. Yeah, there's more oil under the under the crust of the Earth are under the ground, then there is water on the surface. The seventh. And that the idea is by saying fossil fuel, it makes it seem like it's hard to get and there's a limited Supply because everything is like everything's based off price, right? You can't price something at whatever you want. If everyone thinks like it's on, you know, it's supply and demand. Yeah, I could just go to a stream and get a cup of it. You know, and then filter it myself and everything's good like you have to make it seem like it's difficult to get. In order to hike up the price to what is LA right now, $8 a gallon. Hey here's my thing with the whole fossil fuels I very vividly.

1:05:39 Remember in school being shown and told that fossil fuels were plant and animal base but you get shown pictures of dinosaurs and plants and this like tar pit and and you're told this is dinosaurs and whatnot but have broken down and created oil and blah, blah blah and you just growing up. That's all I believed. It's not the first time I've heard this The whole petroleum, we're not actually running out of fossil fuels because it's not true fossil fuels, and it makes sense that it would seem so scarce, if that's the whole, we can't find anymore. Like we can't find dinosaur bones because they're all breaking down into this fossil matter. Well fossil fuel is is now becoming so scarce because there's no more fossils breaking down. Well, that's the exact narrative I was taught in school too. So All right, I don't know about this, okay? I was just going to be honest here, so an oil. Well, right picture, we dig down the ground, it's not just a bulb of oil, it's actually sitting on top of water. If I remember correctly.

1:07:06 You know, the first thing that they'll start sucking up is oil, right? And then they'll keep going down until they hit water and that'll give them sort of a depth of how many feet or how many miles of oil that they have there that they can pull off when they do, is they suck. The top of it, like you're sucking your whipped cream off of your ear. Mocha frappe from from Starbucks, right? And just like, and just suck. Look the whipped cream the oil on top of the oil floats. Once they suck up all that, that oil i-i've never heard of in a well, becoming refilled, like once it's done, it's done.

1:07:49 I don't have any examples of that in particular, right at hand, I'm sure, I guess what they tell you. That's what that's what they tell you. Spurs wonders done, it's done. I got a so I'm just throwing this out there, right? I've already got A couple ideas. We need to get archaeologist on here. We need to get an oil rig worker. That's Matt. That's only one way that they get oils. They also like know, if you boil real Shale, you know, where you go talk to him. Hands are so there's a lot of different things to it. But anyways that again that was just kind of a side rail just want to plant that seed let everybody kind of stew on that. It does have a little dinosaur connection. Like Ken's are was saying you know, nothing about.

1:08:31 So come back to that at some point. Talk about museums. Oh, okay, are we gonna talk about the Smithsonian? Not not in particular covering up head of giants. Oh, I like these. So let's talk about all the bad ass lies, all the badass do penis or skill lies that we see in museums around the world. None of the bones. You see our actual bones, surprise? All the bones, presented to us, on display, are nothing more than plaster. Plastic models that they've apparently dug up. Never mind the fact that they never find complete bone sets.

1:09:14 And mostly infer what a dinosaur looked like based on just a few bones or bone fragments in museums, we are given these massive displays of fully intact bone sets that clearly show how these things look. But the problem is that nobody actually knows. It would be like if you found a bone in your backyard and magically were able to map out an entire 40-foot skeleton based on that. One bone or even just bone fragments. Now you can find articles saying that quote, nearly complete skeleton found or things like 99% complete skeleton found. But I would argue, this is a form of doublespeak or wordplay, so they can lie to us mostly and try to avoid any negative Karma like I was saying earlier. Also, I want to ask a question that most of us have pondered thanks to some viral memes.

1:10:09 How did dinosaurs mate? Let's assume they could somehow get around a giant tail successfully. How could a male Mount of female without crushing her? Speaking of that, how could the bone structures? We are presented in museums support the weight of a multi-ton animal. While it's running or jumping, these will these bones would shatter under that weight. According to many biologists, unless the Earth's gravity was much lower 100 million years ago which would also throw off that carbon dating. We spoke about earlier. That is true. It would now the whole gravity being weaker. It's a possibility.

1:10:52 Probably not too much. That's good question. Yeah, they probably have to like that. Let's use T-Rexes as an example right there and it fat tail. Little arms are you can't manipulate you know your partner maybe they have to like lay down on their side, get to go. Yeah I mean how do you lizards do it today to like iguanas cloaca? Maybe they do it like worms. They're both male and female and I haven't I haven't seen it. And again, like snakes research. I didn't see any good explanation for it. Like I was expecting when I did this search to see like, oh, they were, they were like a sexual, right? Like they just the females just laid eggs that were already fertilized, but that's not even an explanation. Hmm.

1:11:43 Well, Jake Jake has a really good question. How do you lizards do? Now, this is something we should have CJ on for t.j. building. Answer this, he watches lizards Talk all the time, but even the lizards that we have. Now don't have supposedly those super long legs. Like the dinosaurs Did Standing 30 40 feet tall, right? So, could a Rex as we quote, unquote know them today to look like could they even get back up off the ground if they had to lay on the ground to mate? And then stand back up. You would think so. They don't have you are things that are you long a person's life, they'd have to have some sort of way of getting up. You don't think that multi-ton animal falling on its side would shatter?

1:12:32 It's rib cage. I'm sure all I'm sure definitely would cost damage for sure but I don't think it's a death sentence. Maybe it's just a like a turtle on its back struggling for a while until it finds even. It's not a flip itself over here, but even Turtles like they use their tails to get themselves. But that's something that that they eventually learn how to do. Or they die. Yeah, but there's still a struggle. It about maybe, maybe, maybe the dinosaur extinction was just a big earthquake and they'll fellow maybe if there was actually dinosaurs paleontologist would have given us a reasonable explanation of how they fuck. Instead of us just sitting here instead of only one else around here, deserve it spinning our Wheels about, you know what I'm saying?

1:13:20 So, anyways, I'm gonna get to the last little section here. Okay, fake bones. So believe it or not, fake dinosaur bones or a huge business. You can go to websites and order a order fake skeletons for the low price of say a hundred thousand dollars for a T-Rex bone set, right? Anybody can go to T-Rex kohls.com, one of many examples where you can buy full gigantic, dinosaur bone, Skeletons replicas they're not real, they're fake. They don't make any, you know, they don't bullshit me. They tell you that they're fake. But this is the give you an idea that there's a lot of money and a hundred thousand dollars for a T-Rex bone said, on that website. So in fact, the entire dinosaur fallacy and all of its inner workings as an industry is worth billions of dollars from museum, tickets to fake, bones, movies and documentaries Theme Park attractions and even paleontology itself. There is so much money and keeping this hoax alive. You don't even have to buy into the idea that all of history is a lie.

1:14:29 And the Deep reasons, the parasite class would want to change history. You could just look at the dollar bills and see why this is kept up at such a high level. In my opinion, all of the bones dug up and labeled as dinosaurs are either extinct megafauna piece together. To give us this dino story or some of them could be what would be considered biblical Giants. Obviously if they dug up a Biblical giant they couldn't tell us because we have been so indoctrinated in the new religion of scientism and new findings. That could prove any truth to biblical events have to be discredited or explained Away by the new Priests of this New Age religion, the end.

1:15:13 So do you think in this Dinosaurs Aren't real? Does this include all prehistoric animals? Not like those massive sloths and saber-toothed tigers and all kinds of stuff, which is why it's just absolutely possible that most of our, a lot of these digs because they are out there digging, excuse me, bones up, right? I'm not saying that, there's not people out there digging, right? But I think that they're digging up extinct megafauna. The giant sloth or the, you know whatever take your pick, okay? And in order to further this narrative, see what happens is, let's say you go out and you digging in your yard, you want to build a farm or garden and you hit a bone shit, you have to report that and then what do they do?

1:15:59 They send. Yeah, you know, archaeological team usually headed up by somebody quote important, like, let's say, Bruce Rothschild and Associates somebody, right? Mmm, they send them out there, they take control of the dig site. They send the bones off to a museum. Let's just say the Smithsonian. And then years and years later, it come out and say, oh, fucking T-Rex was found and Jake's backyard. Bye, Jake. So there's an argument out there where people say why is that only paleontologists and archaeologists people with a vested interest? Are they the only ones who discovered dinosaur bones and people like Trevor Veil who's been on Joe Rogan's podcast?

1:16:41 He did like a debate with Alex Stein on the conspiracy Castle about this. He would say oh well that's not true, you know Farmers find them and and a little girl found Found a dinosaur bone, but it's like, no, they didn't find. Yeah, and say this is this dinosaur. They just found some fucking bones and they called the big man in the big man came in and they said, this was a dinosaur. But, yeah, I was going to say, I think that there was something I saw on Rogan where it was a paleontologist that was talking about like, people that they're building, you know, massive complexes in la la. And every time they hit a whale bone, they have to stop everything and call the the big people to come out and The whale skeleton because it could, you know? But again, that construction is cool. He does.

1:17:25 Yeah. All he knows is I hit something, maybe he even knows it's a bone, a big-ass. Yeah, right. And then again, Trevor Veil, whoever the fuck it is comes out and they do their whole Spiel and they send it off, and then they come back later on and say this was a dinosaur. Congratulations, you found a dinosaur, you know what I'm saying? So again, it all goes through this filter, it goes through this Rockefeller Rothschild, Carnegie filter, Before we're told it was a dinosaur which is why I don't think that they were all dinosaurs or any of them for that matter. I think they were all other things other and they could be ancient. Like you said, prehistoric megafauna other animals right dragons?

1:18:09 I don't know, but they can't tell us that they found a giant because that's just Doesn't fit, you know what I mean? Right? So, I don't know any of the standards when it comes to, you know, digging and finding a bone. I never heard any of that, that's pretty interesting stuff. I could see it. I could see the cover-up. It's interesting. I came into this this episode thinking I was going to not believe anything said becomes and be quite honestly, I know I think you're fucking crazy but I love you but But no, you definitely have me kind of thinking sort of that's my job bud. There's a you know I am not one to believe that all scientists are evil.

1:19:01 I think there's their scientists out there. That really do think that they're doing a really good job. And I think they're scientists out there that are doing a very good job at what they're doing. Perpetuating a full credit I think Jamie's absolutely right you know, like take your take your regular paleontologist or archaeologist for example they just get out of school, maybe they're 25 years. Into their career. Okay. And they're out on a dig somewhere. And somebody strikes gold, right? They hit a bone. Okay? So everybody starts shifting away at the dirt and uncovering more fragments of bone, right? Again, it's not like in the movie Jurassic Park, where they find a whole fucking skeleton. It's just a little tiny thing here and there fragments, maybe a couple of bumps, right? To things are going to have one.

1:19:41 They're going to send again, the big guy, right? They're not going to let this newbie just say. That this is what this is. They're going to send somebody who's way more important and they're going to have the new guy over here. Go sift the dirt over there or something, right there. They're gonna close off the area with the new team or a smaller percentage will be bribed or threatened with their career and their lives. Amen, you like being an archaeologist, right? How would you like to be part of the Whatever Carnegie history of natural, Carnegie Museum of Natural History. I would you like to be cited 67 hundred times, like Bruce, well, that's what you want. Get a nice pay, raise, you can't tell anybody that this was a giant.

1:20:30 You have to go along with this dinosaur near not saying all of them, but here in there that tap, that happens more likely, it's just, hey, you did a good job Jake. You found a bone, let the big guys handle it for you. What do you think about the idea that because, I mean, the very first one of the very first things you brought up was carbon-12 carbon-14 and we kind of broke it down for a little bit. Just yammering on about it. But if this narrative that's being pushed is that the Earth is however, many hundreds of millions or billions years old. But there really is no way to know, right? Especially after I think I think it was like after 50,000 years, you just have no clue. It's just guessing.

1:21:18 Yep. It's just like oh it's probably this probably that because there is no carbon 14 left, right? And so it's just like, it's just like, oh well, this is probably how old it is because we've already said that this thing lived. This many millions of years ago. So this thing must have led this many hundreds of millions of years ago especially for perpetuating a Narrative of evolution and stuff. And one thing led to another led to another led to another What if dinosaurs are real but they're a heck of a lot younger than anybody's willing to say, write it. Because I mean I'm just going from the perspective of being a Christian guy.

1:21:59 I truly do believe that at one point human beings and and dinosaurs were together on this Earth, You know, with such small, populations of people, it's even likely that They were never in contact. They just existed together on the earth. I'm not saying people were running screaming from the dinosaurs that were eating them and stuff like that. Maybe a couple with that idea know that no ancient civilization at least that we've discovered to this point. There's no cave drawings or impressions of humans and dinosaurs you can find impression areas of aliens and Bigfoot, aliens, yes.

1:22:40 But even that expression of Will and Bigfoot, But the aliens might not be from outer space and in Earth or in our Dimension, who knows a whole long thing. But you don't see cave art of a person standing next to a fucking T-Rex anywhere. But you have writings and you have Legends the had to have come from somewhere, maybe dragons existed. And would, which would go right along line with the Giants? You can't tell people that dragons. Well, what if people were miss? Her seeding pteranodons as a dragon.

1:23:20 Marc Wetzel. I could see how that's possible, but I think that there that's a deep thing too because every ancient civilization has some form of a snake. God, right? A reptile reptile got which is why you get into like reptilians or you get in the like dragons themselves or anything like this, but I don't know. I don't I just don't think that dinosaurs as which is, Why I stated this in the presentation as were presented the whole truth and nothing but the truth about times M. So here good, I just want to know.

1:24:02 Well, I just want to throw this out as a talking point if the whole idea that you're throwing at us right now is that there's a narrative being pushed right. The evolution is true, even though it can't be proved and that dinosaurs existed, even though the billions and trillions of dollars that Into all the dinosaur crap around the world. You know, it's perpetuating this narrative, right? That both of these things are just untrue narratives, that hold, no weight in themselves. What's to say that there isn't a cave paintings of people and dinosaurs, but every time they're discovered their erased and destroyed to keep pushing this narrative, that dinosaurs are billion or hundreds of millions of years old. And that we evolved from them.

1:24:47 If it's the same group of people that are discovering as yours, Saying discovering these dinosaurs or discovering these bones and saying they're dinosaurs and what's to keep it from being the same group of people that are discovering these ancient biblical writings for they're talking about you know and those things holy books are in a totally different category because people will snatch those things up and you know of any world religion that says anything Dragon s core dinosaur like like in job. It's pretty dang. Sure that Describing a dinosaur right there with Cedars, four legs, and drinking up a whole river, and, you know, a tale. You know, that a big sweeping tail and all this sort of stuff.

1:25:29 They're talking about. Leviathan, they're talking about dragons, you know, all that sort of stuff. The Chinese are talking about dragons. All these ancient cultures are talking about giant snakes and dragons, and all sorts of stuff, right? Those things are really snatched up and, and held by those groups, like people can't get in there to to study in and do what they want. To do, but when it comes to a new cave is discovered and there's artwork in there. What's to say that that group of archaeologists aren't rolling up in there and being like holy moly? This says, you know, this has pictures of X, Y and Z dinosaur or whatever it is or dragons or Giants.

1:26:11 And we're just destroying that side of the wall and being like, hey look at look at its stats and figures happened. Gazelle hundred, you know. Now I don't know if there's Drawings of dinosaurs. I don't know, but like as far as Giants or something for that example. Yes. That how I surely? I would I would bet everything that I own that, that kind of thing happens. Okay. I have a whole list of examples that we can get into in another episode about that but it's it's either that the dinosaurs just did not exist as were presented. What dinosaurs are or human history goes back, millions of years which I'm more inclined to believe and that maybe we Did coexist with some megafauna Caribe tiles which I would hesitate to use the term dinosaur because of the indoctrination you automatically think of what you've seen about dinosaurs and moved but it's possible then intelligent humans in this form not Neanderthal or whatever the fuck, right? But humans in our form now may have existed millions of years ago and we're building Advanced civilizations millions of years ago.

1:27:20 In which case they would be running into big fucking animals, so that's possible. And I have no problem, you know, going with that. So, so I got a question What happens when they bring back one of these creatures using their DNA? So they've already created chimeras and Laboratories. They've already spliced different genetics from different animals and humans and made animal-human hybrids, okay? That used to be a conspiracy theory but it's fact. So if one day a Jurassic Park comes about, right, they bring back dinosaurs based on DNA, right? That would not be them.

1:28:10 Just pulling old ancient DNA, it would be them. things together to create a dinosaur in order to push this narrative like a like a ostrich and topic. There's actually an example. I didn't even bring it up. Let me pull this up again, really quick. I was reading they have do do DNA, and they plan on splicing that. Well, the dodo wasn't even necessarily around in the same time as, like, the Jurassic and Triassic. This was something closer to like, 10,000 BC or something. I wasn't. Yeah. So even then something that that's still, like, may not be the same time period. But even even then, that's absolutely insane. Like yeah, well, that's possibly me that It's like it's like the woolly mammoths, right?

1:29:05 They want to bring back the woolly mammoth, so using the African elephants because they're pretty much the same and they're like woolly. Mammoths are not as crazy extinct. As you think like they were around at the time of the Egyptians but they also have the DNA for that because it wasn't a hundred million years ago. Yeah. And all of the biological tissues and things like that. Have completely decomposed from anything, 100 million or 65 million years ago, right? But like so, in the Jurassic Park movie, remember the fly that was stuck in the Amber. And that's how they got the DNA from the dinosaur to create all the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park. Well, that came from the funny a fly and the finizio Fly.

1:29:48 Was this archaeological find the fly and Amber, right? That's where that story came from. This was in the 60s, so they took that put that in the movie, turns out ephiny a fly. Was another fake. It wasn't an ancient fly. It was it was a current thing. You know, in the 60s are in the 50s that this fly was trapped in Amber. So it's just like big. If they build a dinosaur out of genetic material, it'll be new genetic material that they spliced together? Absolutely, it won't be like they just sucked it out of something and then created more dinosaurs. You could do that with the dodo because again, it wasn't that long ago. They could potentially find DNA Frozen in a glacier somewhere. Something like this but not 65 million. Everybody bear with us while we take this quick break. One of the things that bothers me about The Narrative of the age of the Earth is that there was a story that I read about years ago.

1:30:56 That was a I'm going to use quotes. Now, dinosaur leg bone that like fell from a helicopter and in broken half broken to pieces and they found red blood cells inside of it and then I cool. This thing died out 80 million years ago. How did this happen? And so I was just doing a search, I was just quick to Google search to be like, red blood cells and Rex bone. And if I find that one, but I found a bunch of different articles on Different bones that have been found from 75 million years ago, 80 million years ago, that have blood cells in them connective tissue inside of the, you know, connecting the bones and stuff like that. It's like, if everything's supposed to be deteriorated and gone because of, you know, it's all turning into, you know, from bone into stone and all that sort of stuff. Those sorts of outlier things that happen would completely. Blow that narrative out of the water that stuff shouldn't even exist anymore.

1:32:01 I would argue they took that you know, and it's like those bones and they just created whatever that DNA is right in the lab, it would probably be again, an extinct megafauna Mammoth. Something that died out 10,000 years ago or five thousand years ago or it would be something like a big giant or something like this. But of course, they have to tell us the dinosaur so that's it. I mean, that's that's where I'm at. so, Okay, so we talked about it, right? What was it? You said it was Oxford. University was going against a dinosaur chicken narrative and some University right? So the example right but it's how easy is it say like people want to go research this stuff right because I'm sure I hope that some of our most of our listeners. Don't just listen to us talking and rambling on with conversations like this and they're like okay cool and you know on to the next But they actually take the time to like, look into this stuff for themselves. How easy is it or how difficult is it to find this sort of information?

1:33:08 It's easy. If is it? But it is a lot of like you have to parse through the bullshit at the same time. So like the way I started this was I knew about the bone Wars, so I just searched bone Wars and I got the Wikipedia and I do not trust Wikipedia for a shit, but it gives you enough information. So it gave me a, it gave me OC Marsh and the other guy's name, right? So then I look them up. So yeah, it's right about there that I like learn about the pill. Down man. So that I look up piltdown Man hoax comes out that it's fake and I don't just look for any article saying that I actually scroll through the results and look for something that is like a legitimate quote-unquote legitimate Source, right? So I'll look up for that to study by whichever University is and read what they had to say about and I just go down the rabbit hole like that.

1:33:55 So when I'm doing this research, I got 30 tabs open in order. So then when I'm done with that. Yes. Yeah I delete all those tabs and I'm back to the first tab. Then I go down further and I see piltdown bird, so I look up the whole piltdown bird, archeo Raptor thing the feathers. Boom, boom, boom, it's not hard. It just takes time and you have to be able to sift through the bullshit because for every article that will tell you that dinosaurs don't have feathers, there's still 100 articles that will tell you that they did have feathers. So you have to find like credible sources. While sifting through this bullshit. So it's not easy, easy, but it's easy, easy enough, it can be done. I'm just a fucking dude. I'm not an expert.

1:34:36 Like I said, beginning that not an expert in this topic even but just with a couple of weeks, couple hours a day not even everyday just you know, when I got the time just dig into it a little bit and you start and it goes through anything, space is fake or whatever you want, right? There's a problem with the system is that it's really hard to determine what's bullshit and what's not. I mean you can look at the stuff, right? And everything that I know of is false, then you get fucking crazy. Start wearing tin foil hats, then you start selling beanies with silver and you just go absolutely nuts, right? But you know, where where's the line? Where's the line?

1:35:24 Where it's like, okay, this is the bullshit. And this is, this is good stuff. This is this is real right? Or are you teetering just on the other side of the fence of the bullshit fence? Right. I play in that side of the fence. That's thing is, you have to be willing to dip your toes into the bullshit side of the fence deep enough to where you can understand the arguments at very least. No, I'm saying is like, you know, there's The metaphor is offense, right? Got one side of the fence where it's all bullshit, right? This is all the stuff they're feeding you. All of all the walk, then you have the other side of the fence which is just people overreacting to the shit that they're being fed.

1:36:06 And then you have that thin layer of wood, which is the fence and that's the stuff right there. That's the good stuff reality, right? This is really what's going on, but the them is, nobody can find the fucking fence. That's the problem because just as much just as much people that are telling you all this stuff, they're feeding you write that that everyone is starting to really starting to realize that all shit. There's just as many people out there that are combating, this stuff with even equally shittier shit, you know, same. Yeah. So what I would say is that there's no way to know for sure what the truth is.

1:36:51 You can't I don't claim to know what the truth is II know what I believe to be the truth, right? But like, I understand that there's no way to walk that fine line and know for sure which side you're on, right? And you can go crazy with a lot of this kind of shit, you really can't. There's an old saying that when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares back at you, right? And to me, that means that you have to do a lot of internal work. While doing even a research on dinosaurs are fake, Why you have to like look within yourself to kind of determine like how far am I willing to go? You know, and I'm I fully accept being the conspiracy guy. I fully expect expect to be ridiculed, right? What I do but I still have to walk that line and determine for myself.

1:37:43 Like we're how far on either side of my willing to go and it's just like that's just a personal thing. Some people go hella far. Some people like to try to walk a fine line, I like to try to walk a fine line so I understand on one hand that universities are all bought and paid for to some extent. So when I go and site a University study, I'm telling you, this is what they said. But in the back of my mind, I know even that could be disinformation. So who knows? Serving, you're pretty fucking crazy guy, right? But you're you're one of those crazies that I trust. Like you did some pretty good deep diving man and I know you do your work. So you know when you say something I know you're going to bring some shit to the table that's going to make me think and you did that tonight.

1:38:35 So y'all Applause for you, thanks pal, not saying that. I believe that dinosaurs are fake fair enough. But thinking about it, like I am definitely gonna think about it. This is gonna be what I'm going to say to you. Tonight is just looking up shit on my phone about carbon and fossil fuels and it's just like dumb shit. That I would not normally look at what's like the weather modification episode. Oh yeah. Yeah. That one had me like me while. Yeah. And then I I saw your posting memes about how, like they're creating clouds, I was like, I got it, you know, but that's not even the point. Like I'm not trying to convince anybody. I'm just planting seat. So you go, look it up yourself. If you want to believe, dinosaurs are real good for you.

1:39:17 I could give a fuck less. Yeah, I don't think they are. So the problem that I have with this thing, That. Oh yeah. But this thing specifically is that Your viewpoints and things you brought up about why dinosaurs are fake aligns with my belief of why evolution is being pushed as hard as it is. It's not because it's a, it's a fun topic or it's just like, you know, I mean, sure. I mean it's interesting, right? The reason why this theory that can't be proven is being pushed so hard, really lines up hard with, you know, my faith. I 100% believe the biblical story. I 100% that Jesus believed that Jesus is who he says he is, right?

1:40:15 I mean like, like, our last episode, Our Guest asked, you know, do you believe that Jesus walked on water how hard core you about your faith? Like, I mean, 100%, right? If we can convince the People of the world that they are nothing more than primordial scum, that they evolved from monkeys and stuff like that, you take away people's Humanity to take away their, their difference from everything else that exists on the earth. You lesson us to animals. You, take away morality, right? There's no more objective morality, it's all subjective. There's no uniqueness to people, right? The Honest.

1:40:57 We all came from pond, scum sort of mindset takes all that stuff away to where it's just survival. That this, why couldn't someone just genocide entire country? You know, it doesn't matter. Anyway, we don't we're no different than the animals. We kill all the cattle inside of these slaughterhouses. Why couldn't we do this to people? Yeah, I'm 100% with you. It's the, that it's the degradation of morality. That's the whole point, right? So it's just like, so, I'm on the fence of just like, I want to believe that dinosaurs exist, not like it wouldn't mean anything if they didn't, you know, it would be weird, but it wouldn't, you know, wouldn't destroy my world of dinosaurs didn't exist.

1:41:40 I mean, this isn't like my study, that my lifelong research and stuff like that. Like, I all I need to find the most complete, rex skeleton. And then I find out that Rex has never existed, right? But it's just like, I'm not in that sort of spot. So, I mean, this is an interesting conversation, all that sort of stuff, but your chain that you're kind of bouncing along is paralleling. My chain of why I believe things are the way that they are, this breakdown of society. This breakdown of morality this turning people into or making people believe this, that they are not unique. That they're not creating the image of God that they don't have souls, that there is no religion, there's no purpose, you know, people exist by accident all that stuff. It makes it easier for people to do some pretty horrible. Horrible despicable things, if you take away, all that stuff, all that morality, all that stuff. Because then what, you know, if there's no basis for all, that sort of stuff, say like what Jeremy decides is good and bad and what's evil and what's not is totally different from someone else's.

1:42:45 We all just kind of go based off our own ideas and stuff. Then what keeps those top people in the world from deciding that Cash. We have a lot of people on this Earth everyone with brown hair needs to die. Whoa, right. Why would that be an issue? If there's no reason. Anyway, you know, it's like no real moral, right? Or wrong because, you know, it's all subjective. It's all based on the person You know, I say that murder is wrong because I go up based on biblical views, but this guy over here doesn't feel that way, you know. And if I have no way to tell him that he's wrong for feeling that way, because there is no right or wrong, there is no morality, there is no intrinsic value to people. I think that's the reason why it's Evolution ideas being pushed.

1:43:32 But yeah, it's I'm in a weird spot. Ran down. Thanks gentlemen. What do you think ends? Are you think dinosaurs are fake it? I don't know, I don't know. I'm definitely questioning it now though. It got me thinking. So for the listeners right now, we're trying out the video aspect of this that we hope to get into one day. And I've watched Ken's are this entire time squinting at her computer like as if she's looking at all. That's big. I don't believe anyone. Thinking I'm taking it information questions and Jeff's, right? This whole time that she hasn't been speaking. he's been glaring at all of us on our individual little you know, screens thing like these bunch of like a moment to process something sometimes so Sitting here, contemplating.

1:44:24 What you guys are saying? What are those final thoughts? You had to have come to something. You were right, really even do it. I'm now question, I do. Berta the Albert and me had, I grew up in Drumheller, Drumheller has Dinosaur Provincial Park, that's where they found the Albertosaurus. I'm I'm questioning my entire childhood now. Thanks Jeff. I don't know if drum Heller's legit anymore. I don't, if you think this was bad, wait till we do, space is fake. Oh, you've already got me questioning that one, you don't even have to do the episode yet. So if we're going to go deeper into this idea, that dinosaurs are fake and that means that Ogopogo and Nessie doesn't exist.

1:45:14 Either not necessarily they could have been megafauna creatures, not necessarily dinosaurs again, it's just that the problem is the term dinosaur. It automatically gives you a mental image, right? It's like I mean, take anything that you're indoctrinated with, right? Somebody says Earth you have a mental image of what you've seen on TV of what Earth is dinosaur. Same thing, God same thing. A lot of people have a immediate image of like a person that they would imagine what God looks like or any take your pick, right? And that's the problem I have with the term dinosaurs. So yes, we're there. Other creatures, ancient creatures. Sure where they big as fuck.

1:45:58 I'm sure they were Worthy. The dinosaurs as they are presented to us? No. Hmm. So what they look like, Jeff. The guy with all these arguments to make you think. But no real answers. I'm not going to claim to know everything. I'm just presenting a question. You know. I just want everybody to think longer than row. Dinosaurs are definitely real. You fuckin retarded. Like no, just think for two seconds and maybe your perception of dinosaurs isn't correct. I think the biggest thing that people can take away from this conversation, the the side conversations, the, the side things was just like, yeah, I mean, all right. So there's like two families that own everything on Earth. That's pretty big information 30. What can we do about that?

1:46:53 What can we do about that? Nothing right, you know, um, or like Noah's, it was a couple corporations that own everything armoire and what can we? What can we do about that, nothing right? Is the The way it is the idea that dinosaurs are you know, real and perpetuated throughout everything. What can we do about that? Nothing. Even if we all decided that we know that they're not real, or show us clean, heart, cold hard evidence. There's nothing we can do about that. Really, we can't do anything about any of these topics. Gosh, they are so dang interesting. It's an intern like thing. It's a good thing that you have to.

1:47:34 It's a in my opinion of the most conspiracies. It is a form of internal like finding yourself. Let's just say right. Like we don't live in ancient times where we could just go live out in the woods or like the Spartans would send their 12 year. Olds out to live for our along in the wilderness to find themselves before they came back as Warriors, right? Like we don't do Our society anymore. So this is my wave is questioning all the narratives and coming to my own conclusions based off of what I find and in doing that. I have to do deep internal Soul searching. Mmm. And like, that's the way that I find myself. So now I'm that's why I'm comfortable being ridiculed for saying spaces, fake shit, because I know who I am and I know why I came to these conclusions.

1:48:17 I don't have to convince anybody. It's fun to debate people and make them think and make them feel stupid. Sometimes make them angry. You know. I do this for me more than anybody you know. Yeah you want to do it happens. Yeah. Really piss people off. I'm also feeling Those are aligned oh Todd Jeff. I'm sure you have punja information on it, but just do a whole episode on black, right? Be fun. Yeah, I've got a whole presentation that I did on another show. It is I got you. Did one on another show. I got all this in there. Ya go to go to NY Patriot that's his podcast and wipe a tree like New York, New York Patriot and then you just scroll down the feed will see new or Patriot with Shadow band fog.

1:48:59 I'm not the check that out. Is that whole the whole thing about Black Rock, the history of it, the religious aspect of it, the symbolism of it is insane. Yeah. It's crazy rough. Everything's fake. But anyways, yeah, it's past my bedtime everybody. I have to die stops. Take a shower. I mean, taking a shower. I haven't either. I got to do to, I'm disgusting. I'm an animal. Well, that was Jeff's presentation on why he believes that dinosaurs are in fact, fake and not real nor were they ever nor does he have believed in dragons or any kind of megafauna he believes enough, nothing exists to Jeff.

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