April 1, 2022

Storming Area 51! w/ Brian Moreno

Show Notes
Transcript

Remember when the world sat eagerly waiting for a group of people to "Storm Area 51"? We sure do, and so does our guest. Brian Moreno the Writer and director of Dreamland: A Storming Area 51 Story joins the cast as they discuss what it was like when he was filming the documentary about the craze that dominated the US in 2019. What did he see, who was there, and what actually happened at the gates of Area 51? Welcome Back to Infinite Rabbit Hole!

Brian's Links:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15513114/
https://www.brianmorenocomedy.com/
https://www.instagram.com/morenothealien/?hl=en
https://twitter.com/morenothealien

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Welcome back to the infinite
rabbit hole that you guys

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weren't expecting me to say that
this time, usually that's

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Jeremy's job.
Now, I feel special.

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But today we have something a
little different for everybody.

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Something, I'm actually pretty
excited for.

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We have a super special guest on
today to talk about some pretty

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cool stuff that he's got going
on and some other topics as well

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fair warning.
This is kind of a last-minute

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guest here.
So you know, we're just going to

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shoot from the hip.
Before I get too deep into it

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before, introduce the guests.
I'm going to bring on my new

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co-hosts for my new show since I
won the lottery.

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If you guys remember from the
last episode, that's not true.

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We got Jeremy since you wanted
to chime in and say it wasn't

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true Jeremy.
What's up bud?

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Not much.
I'm excited to listen to you

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trip.
Over yourself is going to Great.

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Okay, thanks, I appreciate that.
Also we got Ken's are the new

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kid cans are, what's up?
Guns are hello!

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What's up?
Not a whole lot to me.

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Fair enough.
Jake.

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What's up, brother?
Oh, it's a great day here in

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Southern California.
I just got home from work rode

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the bike today.
It was fantastic, super stoked

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that you're actually doing the
intro this time and not having

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me cover for you.
So you're welcome.

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I was getting ready to wing it,
like I was ready now.

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Now children.
It's all right, I'm good at

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winging.
It's what I do and then last but

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definitely not least our super
special guest for the day.

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This man, he is a comedian.
He is a director.

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He is a filmmaker a writer this
guy.

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Hopefully we'll have some some
mind-blowing information today.

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I'm sure that we'll get into
some crazy stuff but this is

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Brian Moreno.
The director and creator of

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Dreamland a storming Area, 51
story.

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Brian what is our brother?
Hello hello hello pleasure to be

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here and thank you and your
entire crew here.

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Here, you got a whole baseball
team.

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Oregon this podcast?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely man.

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We like to have a lot of voices
on this show sometimes, you

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know, we like to talk over each
other but that's what we've got

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me.
We don't do that at all.

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No, we don't know.
Never not once.

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Yeah, I actually have my sound
board in front of me.

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That was me.
I just had to make sure it still

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worked in case I was started
bombing.

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Like, I always have that genius,
dude, I need to do that.

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If I would have too much fun
with that, Jeremy be going off

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on these tangents about this.
You know, he'll write up a

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script full of notes and stuff
kids.

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Yeah.
Are you guys were like who the

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hell brought a laugh track?
That's crazy.

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Actually that was Jeremy.
What?

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I thought it was Jeff?
Yeah, I thought it was Jake.

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Pavelka now with no.
Oh man.

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So anyways, yeah, Brian.
Tell us tell us a little bit

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about yourself man.
You know your background tells

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just yeah give us a short
biography.

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Who are you?
Sure.

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Sure.
I don't have not just the guy

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that comes in a podcast with
with an audience clapping I am

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about a 12 years and this will
be my 12th year doing stand-up

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comedy before that I was a
failed actor.

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And then before that I was the
West Coast public relations

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manager of the Wall Street
Journal.

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So I've had like a crazy career
to get to where I'm at

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throughout the course of my
comedy career.

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I started doing shorter videos,
you know, comedy sketches.

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Ever, you want to call them?
Some of them went pretty viral

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and the last one we did, it was
an exact replication of Ancient

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Aliens.
It was called Ancient, Aliens,

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aliens and comedy, and you can
find it on my YouTube.

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It hit like between funny or die
and a few other websites, it hit

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like 25, 30 million views.
Um, you know, Giorgio Tsoukalos

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started following me on Twitter,
you know, it was like at the

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time was one of the highlights
of my life and at that moment in

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time I stopped doing sketches.
And that's where the whole idea

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of me starting to make movies
like I since I was a kid I

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always thought I was going to
make films.

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But once I started getting real
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knew to break through.
I was going to have to like

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really take a chance.
Jean something.

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And for about 23 years, I
formulated a few ideas and then

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the storming of Area, 51 event
happened and that was the

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vehicle for my film, Dreamland a
storming Area, 51 story.

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It's a Curb, Your Enthusiasm
style documentary but it is a

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real documentary like by the
letter of the law, like it is a

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true documentary.
But I have had interjected a lot

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of comedy and a lot of a lot of
excitement. and in order to tell

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a story about the people, not
only who stormed Area 51, but

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all the people who really
believe in things that are like,

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unseen or not easily understood,
Awesome man.

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Yeah and I just came across your
YouTube channel.

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It's Brian Moreno comedy right,
right?

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Yes, sir, yes, sir.
Yeah, yeah, check that out.

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I'm going to definitely watch
this Ancient Aliens.

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F old am, I can't wait.
Yeah, that one's pretty awesome.

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And then there's another one I
did on there called true

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comedian.
I don't know if you remember the

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show.
True Detective on HBO?

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Yeah.
Yeah, well, we matched HBO.

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Exactly like the graphics guy
even got a cease and desist

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because we use like they're
interviewing sounds and stuff.

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But then they because this was
the time when Vince Vaughn still

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had a Twitter.
He tweeted out the original link

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to it and he's like, this is
what our season should have

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been.
And so that's when, you know,

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that's when I kind of knew I had
to like, because I wanted to

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tell real stories, like long
form and like the biggest, as a

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comedian your I mean, at least
I'm kind of doing that.

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Like some people are much better
joke writers than I am by far,

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but I'm I think and I'm not
trying to toot my own horn, but

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I think I'm a little more
interesting than some of them.

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So I've had to to marry comedy
with interesting in order to

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keep, you know, I keep people
keep people on their toes and

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keep them laughing, but also
keep them thinking and that's

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what my movie is also trying to
do.

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And so that's That's why like I
say it's Dreamland Area. 51

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movie.com is the website for
anyone who wants to check out.

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And you can see the trailer on
there were, you know, going

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through the Festival circuit
right now.

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I've had four different offers
to purchase the movie but so

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far.
Nothing that I think is worthy,

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I don't know, I don't know where
the best home for the movies

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gonna be.
But I do have faith in the

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universe on this one because
like, this movie had no script

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it had.
It had just an idea in my brain.

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I gave all the players within,
you know, within the film.

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I gave them all Beats to hit but
I didn't have any type of script

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and for some of the stuff I just
had to put Faith in the camera

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crew that they were capturing
this stuff, because this is a

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very run-and-gun type of film.
And when I say run and Gun, I

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mean, you have a camera crew and
cameras and you're going, you

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don't have Sets, you don't have
set design.

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You're working with whatever
Lighting and Sound conditions

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are are thrown at you.
Yeah.

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It's pretty cool, man.
She's wild.

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That is awesome.
Yeah, I mean there's a good

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there's a lot of good reasons on
people.

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Don't make movies like this.
Trust me.

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Trust me.
I'm I'm thankful to whatever you

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want to be thankful to, you
know, whatever you want to call

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it.
But I am thankful because there

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are so many things that could
have gone wrong in this from The

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tires being low on the because I
rented two RVs and a sprinter

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and one of the RV's had
basically bald tires when we got

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back, I'm like how did this make
it through the desert and back?

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Like it was not when I say bald,
it was slick.

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Like like a head.
You're like, it's forecasted to

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rain for the next week.
It's like film film.

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What are you waiting on?
Yeah, so it was a labor of love

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and You know, I put everything I
had into it and now I just hope

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to find it the right home, but I
believe it's a very good product

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that yeah, this film Dreamland
is it is about, it's about

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inclusion.
It's about showing people that

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were not all that different in
some of the beliefs and some of

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these esoteric things because
there's a lot of parallels I try

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to make in this film even though
it is a comedy Entry.

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There's a lot of parallels I try
to make about people who are say

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religious like altered like from
just barely religious to alt

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religious.
Like they're believing in things

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that are like unseen and they're
getting down and praying the

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things that are invisible and to
some of these people aliens and

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extraterrestrials and their
whatever their energy beings

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that they see like it's the same
thing to them like They believe

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in things that aren't easily
explained, or understood or it's

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just, it's a faith-based thing.
And no one group is right or

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wrong, like so many people so
much smarter than me, have tried

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to explain this and have failed
miserably.

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So this is, you know, this is a
documentary that kind of shows

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the parallels while also
entertaining and that's, you

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know, and that's a hard thing to
do.

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And that's why I believe in my
heart and my mind's eye that

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this movie will start.
In the test of time.

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Like it's very early like I
really just finished it three,

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four months ago and people think
about when you finish a movie

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get no it's a very long tedious
process to sell the movie to get

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a especially when you're an
unknown, like I am like I may be

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doing comedy and acting for, you
know, better portion of my life

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but I'm still rather unknown
until you have more money behind

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you.
Then what I do, you gotta, you

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gotta, you gotta grind and you
got to push and every day you

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got to to be marketing yourself
and it's not easy, but it's

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nothing is, right?
Yeah, that's the truth man.

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So I saw the trailer for the
film and at first watching The

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Trait, like, I watched it the
first time and I was like, is

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this like a satirical comedy
about the storming of Area?

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51, because that's kind of how
the trailer played to me.

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The first there were two
different trailers.

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There's an alternate an early
version and then there's a more

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serious one that we went with
gotcha.

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So, I might have seen the, the
first one then possibly, but

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then I heard you on Brian's are
not prime Brandon's.

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Cast, the expanding reality
shout out to him and heard you

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explaining that it's not.
I haven't seen the film full

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disclosure for everybody
listening.

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I haven't seen the film yet but
you know, super excited to

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actually watch it.
But then I heard you guys

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talking about how you do all
these interviews with people and

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how it's even though it is, it
has the funny element.

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It's not like a satirical.
Comedy.

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It is a documentary.
No, it's it's closer to

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something.
I don't know how much you like

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your into film, but there's a
filmmaker Verner hertzog.

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He he was a great inspiration to
me in this because he was able

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to make in his early days he was
able to make films and he used

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all of his surroundings to tell
the story, like, whoever was

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around or whatever was there.
And I felt like I could do that

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with this.
Is storming Area 51 event

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because I had a pretty good idea
that the event was going to be a

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failure.
So to make a movie out of a

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failing event, you have to make
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Like there has to be a level of
personal connection to, to

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something within the film in
order to get people to watch it

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because I think we all pretty
much know that the event didn't

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turn out as expected.
But that being said, the event

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would have been Even less
without me and my crew and the

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things that we did there and
what we were able to capture

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you'll see is definitely a piece
of American history and maybe a

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small piece but it represents
this ever-growing subculture

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within the mainstream and that's
the ufo-ologists and that's the

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ce-5 people.
And that's the, I guess just the

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alien heads, as I like to refer
to him as as you know, and those

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are the people that and I say
alien has usually people that

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just want to believe in
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You know, they want to believe
in some but they have no basis

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for any of their beliefs except
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anti-religion or
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And that's fine.
You know, like you can you find

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you'd be like people find their
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But but my movie highlights all
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And I think the characters that
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represent a lot of these colors
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like the whole UFO ology rainbow
like there's these individual

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colors like there's the hot like
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there's the people that just
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There's three people that
believe the whole rainbow like

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there's the people that think
they're Been Among Us.

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There's the people who have
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and there's the non-believers
within that that subculture

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also, the people that are like,
oh yeah, I believe that there's

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more life out there but I just
don't know what form it so on

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that.
Let me ask you this what is your

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idea of like what the UFOs?
The you a pizarra?

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Brian?
I would say nine times out of

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ten.
It's It's reverse-engineered

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military stuff, maybe eight out
of ten but you know, like

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there's always the exception but
most of them just by the design

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and how how they are.
It's some type of military

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military craft because there's a
point is brought up in the film

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from a theorist that I
interviewed and he brought up a

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great point that I think about,
Hurley about how segmented the

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government is, how the Navy, and
the Air Force have no idea what

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each other is doing.
And what better way to test your

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equipment, then to test it on
American Military, you know, on

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a different branch of the
military.

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So I think a lot of it probably
starts there, You know what

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other countries including Russia
and China, have in that type of

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that type of aerial vehicle is
really in question, but will let

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me because we can actually get a
little inside, on on that idea

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because we have our two resident
Navy pogs who are part of the

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show?
Oh, that's great.

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No, that's great.
I mean, I can tell you this, for

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sure.
Like the smartest person that I

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know, Know who works for the
government was this is 10-15

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years ago.
He was contracted to develop a

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radar system that tracks things
that go over 700 miles an hour.

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Radar for Jess things ago, over
700 miles an hour like what goes

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over 700 miles an hour you know
it's that is not like you know

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it's not missiles.
It's not you know what do you

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think?
What do you think about that

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Jeremy?
The the Navy and the Air Force,

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you know, not knowing what's
going Here's here's the thing.

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Brian is absolutely correct to a
point.

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Right?
The military in general is very

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segmented.
He's at Jake and eyes rank.

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We don't know shit about what's
going on with other branches.

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Now, there are a lot of joint
operations and of course, when

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you get a lot higher, there's
going to be, you know, more talk

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between each other.
Especially when you get to the

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secretaries and stuff, Brian is
on definitely onto something.

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Thing where let's say the Air
Force is testing something

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something that's
reverse-engineered.

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Let's fly that bitch near
Norfolk Virginia.

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You know, the biggest Naval base
and see, we'll see what happens.

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That's interesting.
That's very, very interesting

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because not they can get a lot
of stuff tested.

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They're not just the ability of
the aircraft but also the

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ability of their defense systems
their radar tracking systems,

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shit.
Even flir's, that, I mean,

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everything on a navy base has
Freaking Flair on it.

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Yeah, I never really thought
about that.

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I'm under the same kind of
belief.

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Is you though.
Brian that most, if not all of

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the UFO sightings were probably
some black budget, you know,

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craft that's being built or
maybe another country, who

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knows.
But, you know, I'm pretty much

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the spaces fake guy and the UFOs
aren't, okay.

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Well there's one thing that I
hate to always point out to

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people but if these Interstellar
Beings are traveling that far to

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get here.
Why do they need like LED lights

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on their spacecraft?
I love that question.

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That's a great argument actually
mapping technology that needs.

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It doesn't need front.
LED lights like that is that is

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a very military thing to put on
your spacecraft, okay?

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It's just it's a very human
thing to have on your your

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vehicle.
It's just if there are

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Interstellar beings and this is
how it's been explained to me

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that our planet is, like one of
those small tribes in Africa.

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They like we see them as these
primitive beings that don't even

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have the internet that barely
have, you know, have any type of

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established Society or culture
and our planet is simply a way

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station, they stop.
They refuel they do whatever.

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It's more than likely underwater
in the it's more like the in the

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oceans and mountains or the the
pole polar regions.

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But we are nothing but a A
Primitive being 22, whatever may

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be out there and some of the
people that do tell me these

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things, eh You know I've really
picked and prodded and they are

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individuals that you know,
they're not just Believers.

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There's a lot of scientific, you
know, backing behind their

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theories, and that's what and
that is the most logical way.

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It's been explained to me.
And that is the what I lean

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towards.
But then again, like there's

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certain experiences that people
have that do make you pause and

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make you wonder.
And who am I to say it's wrong?

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Just because I don't.
Experience it, you know, right?

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Yeah for sure.
And let me ask you this mad

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because you were at the the
storming of Area 51 event which

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I actually thought about going
to in selling water because in

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my mind, I was thinking these
people are dumb enough to go

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raid Area. 51, they're probably
too dumb to bring water and I

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think about that.
But what what do you what was

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like?
The maybe the wildest thing that

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you saw like what was the thing?
We'll see you.

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That that question I I can't
wait for you to To see the

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movie.
Because the wildest thing we saw

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was stuff that we did there late
and you'll see like I'm not

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gonna ruin, I'm gonna run it for
you but fair enough.

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But the people that did go cause
I got all the way to the gates

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and I interviewed some people
there and And the wildest thing

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that I thought there was is that
only right on the other side of

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the gate, there's like this
little Shack type thing.

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You know, that that cars have to
check in with to go by and there

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was like a dude dressed in all
black taking photos and videos

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of everyone out there.
Hmm.

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Yeah.
And that's, you know, that's the

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whole big brother thing the
government like, you know, you

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see like a Will Smith movie and
they immediately map your face

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and Have your credit score next
to you.

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And, you know, you're out of the
ending bills and you saw it.

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You saw an actual Men In Black.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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So that's pretty cool though,
man.

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Honestly, you get it.
Did you catch the the Naruto

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run?
Yeah, means of the all the gap

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for well yeah it's in the movie.
Yeah, that's why I was like

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maybe you know but we won our
first vessel.

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We're in a sci-fi and fantasy
Festival, best narrative, which

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is a, with an honor.
Now we're in the Malibu Film

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Fest and because of certain
regulations are still doing a

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virtual this year, but people
can screen it for like, you

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know, two three days.
You know, and to check the movie

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out and everyone like everyone
who's seen it has been very,

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they've been very surprised and
I can't wait for you guys to

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watch it because it's, you know,
it's a, it's a very good movie

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and I'm not just saying that
because I gave my life for it.

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It's, you know, when movies are
good, you know, it like your

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eyes and your ears like when you
see really powerful art it like

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you feel it, vibrate
differently.

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Whatever it may be.
Whatever type of art, like story

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is Art poem painting.
Like, when you're in the

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presence of great art.
It you like, you feel it, you

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genuinely feel it in your bones.
And this is something that, you

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know, people feel it.
And I makes me happy.

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I don't want to give away too
much.

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I don't want you to give way too
much about your about your

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movie, but obviously, I have
some questions here at that time

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to ask.
First thing is, what were these

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people that Were storming Area.
51.

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What did they think they were
going to get like, what do they

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think that they were going to
find her?

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Or what did they think?
Was at the end of this, this

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path that they were trucked at
they were on?

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Well, first off, let me be clear
as A lot of that storm Area, 51

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stuff, that was legitimate, fake
news.

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Like, are we?
The news was building up this

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story and it kind of snowballed
and I heard because we got there

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Friday night, but didn't get to
the gates of Area 51 till

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Saturday, we heard that there
were on Friday night, some

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people out there and then some
drunk lady walked right past the

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gay.
Some old Ice shows, an older

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woman I guess you just hammered
and you know but it's a pretty

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one.
Yeah, but it was like desert

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people, you know, I like she
was, you know like in pairs if

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you ever been on the desert it's
like these huge.

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Yeah, well the night in jail
like what's the big deal?

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So nobody was really storming.
I mean some and it's in the

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movie, there were some some Guys
got arrested doing something but

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they're for the most part.
Most of the people there were

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very peaceful and very They're
just for a good time, you know,

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they were prepared, they didn't
really have any intention of

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getting arrested, you know, I
think most of the people were

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there just to see what was going
to happen.

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And that Hill gate party.
Yeah, it makes for a very you

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know uninteresting film unless
you have apples story.

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So yeah there's a lot to my
there's a lot more to my film

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than just that.
So you didn't like sir pay some

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kid to go up to like to the
Garden, punch him or anything

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like that and try to stoke the
fire.

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I mean, I didn't still get that
way.

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I still looked at more with the
movie.

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Yeah.
Like, you know, I prefer not to

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break federal law when stoking
fires.

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Yes.
Was there?

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Anybody that was just flat-out
arrested just for being closed?

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Or were they having to do stuff?
No.

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You had to really cross and
really make an effort to get

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arrested.
So I've always had this dream.

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I'm right.
I think I'm going to have to

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bribe somebody, but I've always
had this dream where I, it's a

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military base, right?
If I know anything about

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military bases, they have a gas
station and in that gas station,

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they sell Area, 51, patches and
coins, and I need an Area, 51

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challenge coin for my
collection.

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So I'm out driving up to the
gate with a, with a coin for my

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current command and be like,
hey, you want to trade?

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No way, I don't know.
It's just like, I've heard,

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they're super cool.
They're rare my way to find out

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and they have better, would me?
Yeah, out there and Rachel it's

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I don't know what, town of 50
people or something.

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But there's one little in and
you can see, there's a little

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breakfast place that you can get
a decent little breakfast.

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And then they also have these
wonderful, tequila bottles that

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are in the shape of alien heads.
Oh, I wish I would have gotten

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more.
It's the coolest.

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Yeah, it's somewhat old one.
Yeah.

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It's the little alien in little
alien, then I don't alien how

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they grammatically.
It's not spelled correctly.

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But that's what Lee had little
alien in.

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00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,500
Yeah.
So it looks kind of like the the

441
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:39,700
skull tequila then.
Yes.

442
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:41,300
Yes.
But it's the alien head.

443
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:45,000
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
That's pretty cool.

444
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:50,000
So am I had a question and it
totally slipped my mind?

445
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,700
Like, right as I open my mouth?
You think about the challenge?

446
00:27:52,800 --> 00:28:03,000
Now so I, you know, I don't know
anything about the geography and

447
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,500
you know, the layout of Area 51,
Groom Lake whatever you want to

448
00:28:06,508 --> 00:28:10,100
call it, but where everyone was
at.

449
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:13,800
Like with all the news, channel,
cameras, and everything, where

450
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,700
you were where you closer than
most people were able to get to.

451
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:21,900
Because I know there's there's
like these rumors about cameras

452
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:26,700
being like Randomly out in the
desert infrared cameras and trip

453
00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:32,400
wires and everything.
Okay so when you see the movie

454
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,600
you'll see that there were two
different groups and one of the

455
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,600
girls in the party, thank
goodness.

456
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,200
She had to go pro and everything
out there but she got to this

457
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,400
point where it's called snipers
point.

458
00:28:46,100 --> 00:28:49,000
It's out there in the middle of
the desert and supposedly your

459
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:52,800
you're supposed to believe.
You're already on the if you

460
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,900
make it there, you're further
than what you should be, because

461
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,600
she crossed the.
The sign says no trespassing,

462
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:02,000
that a DA.
So that's where I think she made

463
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,100
it.
But me, I just got to the actual

464
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:10,500
Gates, the front Gates.
It doesn't say Area 51, but it's

465
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:14,300
the famous, you know, the famous
one, where they have the, the

466
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:19,600
stop poles and Hmm.
And that's where they said

467
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,100
people were going to storm.
But, you know if if you're into

468
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:27,900
like there's nowhere to go, you
know, you got to drive a long

469
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:32,300
ways to get anywhere out there.
You negate is miles from

470
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,600
anything interesting.
That's for sure.

471
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,100
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, the event like I say,

472
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:41,600
the event itself was an event
that was big enough because for

473
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,500
the movie to work, this had to
be an event that people People

474
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:52,700
remember, you know that people
really knew about when people

475
00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:59,900
knew about this event but it was
such, it was squashed so much by

476
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,100
the government because they
didn't want it to have, you

477
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:04,900
know, obviously right.
They didn't want.

478
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:10,100
It was squash so much and so
thoroughly that because the

479
00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:12,900
original guy who planned, it
tried to move the festival to

480
00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:18,300
Vegas and changed everything.
All up, And I knew the event was

481
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:21,400
like I said probably going to be
a bust but the event was more of

482
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:27,000
a vehicle to tell a story about
this group because three years

483
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,400
ago the sub the the alien UFO
subculture was big I think it's

484
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,900
even bigger now and as you know
like the trajectory is going,

485
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:39,100
you know, to become to becoming
extremely mainstream.

486
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Yeah, if you don't think it is
already, you know, you still

487
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,500
have a lot of podcasts and a lot
of other people that will ask a

488
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:49,800
question and it bothers to shit
on me now.

489
00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:52,500
They'll say, Do You Believe In
UFOs?

490
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:57,200
And it's dumb because the
government, you know, you're I

491
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,800
am Pas going away, right?
And Harlan away, but the

492
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:06,200
government has has come out and
said, yes, UFOs are real, right?

493
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,600
But you still have those people
that are asking the question.

494
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,400
Do you believe in UFOs?
Bows.

495
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,900
And there's still a lot of
people out there and under the

496
00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:20,700
cover of the c-word, the
pandemic that happened or is

497
00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:25,600
happening or whatever, the the
area of entertainment that we

498
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,800
are in and the subject that we
cover, this was huge news and

499
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,200
they got swept underneath the
rug and nobody heard it.

500
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,700
Absolutely.
Nobody heard it and nobody,

501
00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:41,200
there's a couple points.
I want to make That go for it.

502
00:31:41,500 --> 00:31:49,400
That I think a lot of people did
hear it, but But the government

503
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:54,800
is very calculated and its
release of any type of

504
00:31:54,800 --> 00:32:02,200
information.
So I think It was may be swept

505
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,000
under the rug because it's not a
it was yeah, maybe an

506
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,800
acknowledgment but it wasn't a
substituent subsistence enough

507
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:15,500
like acknowledgement.
Like there's no substance to it,

508
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:22,200
you know, it it didn't say it
was any type of alien or alien

509
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,700
technology like UFO like the
difference between a UFO and an

510
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,100
alien is the apples and oranges,
you know?

511
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,100
No, it's not even close.
So, but they still came out and

512
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:38,900
said, we don't know where
they're from, what the origins

513
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:44,700
are now, you know, Jeff are I'm
sorry, Jake and I are military.

514
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,900
And when we hear that, you know,
I'm military in also interested

515
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:55,400
in UFOs and the Mystery behind
them, right?

516
00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,100
It's it's sexy knocking a lot.
So when I hear that our military

517
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,500
Our government doesn't know
where some of them are coming

518
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:06,500
from.
Like you said, it could be other

519
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:09,300
governments testing out their
technology for what?

520
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Exactly.
And that's where the military

521
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,400
interests of my brain comes in
as like, okay is this is this

522
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,600
another country that or is this
something different?

523
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,700
And that's where my new interest
is shifted like okay, it's been

524
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,500
been revealed.
Now, we need to figure out what

525
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:30,500
it is and people are still
talking about Out.

526
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:33,000
You know, do you believe that
UFOs as well?

527
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,500
But there's also just like
anything else.

528
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:43,600
I mean, there's a when you're
conditioned for so many years to

529
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,200
think something isn't real, or
it's just Hollywood adore.

530
00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:55,300
Or it's for crazy people.
It takes a lot of reverse

531
00:33:55,300 --> 00:34:00,500
conditioning to get that out and
I worry when the government does

532
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:06,400
release information because it's
always so calculated and for a

533
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:15,600
very self-serving interest.
So I find that weary I find a

534
00:34:15,607 --> 00:34:18,300
lot of b.
A lot of pause when I hear these

535
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,900
things because There's always a
reason and I'm not clear on the

536
00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:26,900
reason why they even said that
why they may be who, you know,

537
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:32,000
maybe the people doing the study
again are super biased and they

538
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,600
had limited access to whatever
it may be.

539
00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:40,400
But the bigger thing about the
Tic Tac video that I'd like to

540
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,800
bring up to people, is the fact
that whatever type of craft that

541
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,300
was it was able to manipulate
gravity mmm and the manipulation

542
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:52,400
of gravity.
She is like you're almost a god

543
00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:54,300
at that point in time.
Yeah.

544
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,900
Waiting when we don't even know
what gravity is yet.

545
00:34:57,300 --> 00:35:03,200
No, I mean you and I don't know,
I mean there's there's a lot of

546
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,200
physicists.
I mean, their fists, there's a

547
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,400
ton of visit but we have no idea
what the military what they've

548
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,100
developed in order, true what?
Whatever propulsion system that

549
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:17,800
vehicle had.
It was able because if you can

550
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,400
control gravity, you can Like a
shield around yourself so that

551
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,900
you can stop and start on a dime
in the people inside.

552
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:27,200
Don't like explode.
Yeah, right.

553
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,600
You can do a ton with gravity.
I mean, there.

554
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,300
There's even theories.
You know, when you talk about

555
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:37,100
Einstein's, theory of special
relativity about how you can

556
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:41,300
control time when you deal with
gravitational force.

557
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:43,000
Sure.
Absolutely.

558
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,700
And the way we understand
gravity now without, you know,

559
00:35:47,700 --> 00:35:51,900
without a giant body, We have no
idea what it even is.

560
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:56,000
Jake, we do that but see I
didn't I didn't trust that

561
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,300
answer for a second.
It's just like okay,

562
00:35:58,300 --> 00:36:01,300
everything's ramping up.
Its getting way.

563
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:04,200
Too much attention us
government's like let's just

564
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,800
tell them that we don't know.
You know just like just oh I

565
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,100
don't know.
We're do you know my focus off

566
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:15,200
of me and just like it's, you
know, there's too many weird.

567
00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:19,200
There's too much weird stuff
that goes on throughout the u.s.

568
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,500
government and all the little
you know, sections of it and

569
00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:26,000
stuff like Brian was saying
earlier where you know the Navy

570
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,100
doesn't talk to the Air Force
like yeah I mean I totally agree

571
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:32,400
like why wouldn't they just say
yeah we don't no stop stop

572
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,100
asking us questions you know
it's like it's not your

573
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,400
business.
We're not going to tell you in

574
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,600
the same reason why they don't
broadcast every military

575
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,100
aircraft that they're trying to
come up with.

576
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:49,200
Like they're not out there
throwing F-35, you know, pubs

577
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,700
out there on Google so that
everyone can look it up and all

578
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:54,900
of our enemies can see, Exactly
how the F-35 works and all that

579
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:56,100
stuff.
They're just like, yeah, it's

580
00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:57,900
none of your business.
We're not going to tell you how

581
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:00,700
it but so that's 90% of the time
you mean?

582
00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:02,400
Yeah.
So I'm just like sitting here.

583
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,100
I'm like, I'm like, all right so
you know, that's a lie and then

584
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,900
Jeff comes at us with all those
different patent numbers from

585
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:12,200
that one, you know, UFO episode
that we did.

586
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,500
And I was like, okay, cool.
So they have patents for Gravity

587
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:20,500
manipulating craft fantastic.
You know who makes a patent for

588
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,100
something?
They'll never be able way.

589
00:37:22,100 --> 00:37:24,700
So silly.
You have those patents like I.

590
00:37:24,700 --> 00:37:27,100
Yeah, I have that has like a few
different.

591
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,500
People told me that and one of
the people I interview in the

592
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:31,900
film is name is lotus.
He just goes by lotus.

593
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,900
You guys are going to love him.
No, I mean, like, the people, I

594
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:37,300
interviewed seriously, the
people, I interviewed.

595
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:42,700
Like, it's a, it's a very good
representation of all the things

596
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:48,700
we're talking about.
And I think not just the patents

597
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:51,500
of the government holds on
gravity, like stuff, they hold

598
00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:54,800
on free energy.
Has been there for a long time.

599
00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:02,300
We just don't Whatever whatever
they want us to have.

600
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:09,400
We have an unfortunately science
gets stymied by by government

601
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,400
and outside influences that, you
know, it's very unfortunate

602
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:16,900
because the, like, if a
scientist could actually figure

603
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:21,900
out what what gravity is and the
way we could use it, you know,

604
00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:25,100
it would change the world, but
unfortunately, the people who

605
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,300
may have any idea, they're going
to keep that.

606
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:33,400
So close to the chest.
Yeah, I so for everybody,

607
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,800
listening, if you want to look
that up, the patent is u.s.

608
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:42,700
2006. 0145. 01 981 that's for
the Triangular spacecraft.

609
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:45,700
Antigravity spacecraft that is
an actual patent.

610
00:38:45,700 --> 00:38:49,700
When was it?
When was it, does it say?

611
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:53,400
Yeah.
Public 8 application filed by

612
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,300
John St.
Clair, which is an important

613
00:38:56,300 --> 00:38:57,200
name.
Yeah.

614
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,600
In 2004.
Want to go ahead and tell us why

615
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,700
that's an important name.
Jeffrey well, st.

616
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:07,700
Clair is.
So there's the whole idea of the

617
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:10,600
13 Bloodlines 13, families of
the Illuminati.

618
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,300
There's actually a CIA document
that's called the 13 families or

619
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:19,200
the 13 Bloodlines of the
Illuminati and st.

620
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,000
Clair are.
I can't remember the name that

621
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,800
it comes from but there's a name
on that stainless and Claire,

622
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,700
isn't it?
Yeah, it's like something very

623
00:39:26,700 --> 00:39:29,600
similar saying Clare became st.
Clair.

624
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:34,800
And yes, so that's one of the
you know Illuminati bloodline

625
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,100
families according to the CIA
document, which could be

626
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,600
misinformation, who knows?
But you know just take it face

627
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:46,300
value.
But I have a theory on on why

628
00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:49,700
this got kind of swept under the
rug when the government put out.

629
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:52,900
When the Pentagon put out the
whole UAP thing and you know

630
00:39:52,900 --> 00:39:55,600
like Brian you were saying, you
know, the government didn't want

631
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,500
people to go and raid Area 51
obviously.

632
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,000
But then you have Like the news
like you were saying, pumping it

633
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,200
up, and pumping it up, and
building it up and all this kind

634
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,600
of way.
So that makes me think that they

635
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,400
really did want people to go out
there.

636
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,900
I think that there's like a
cultural aspect to the whole

637
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:15,000
thing where you know, they
normalize the UFOs and aliens

638
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,500
ideas for decades and decades
and decades just being more and

639
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:23,300
more normalized every day and
then they have an event like at

640
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:26,000
Area, 51, right?
Where you send all these people

641
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,800
out and you know, I wasn't
there.

642
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,900
So I don't know who or what kind
of people were there.

643
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,300
The most part, but I can
imagine, you know, it was a

644
00:40:32,308 --> 00:40:34,700
bunch of, there's probably a
bunch of different type of fuel

645
00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:38,800
Stoners, you know, people, you
know, the owners are out there.

646
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,500
Yeah.
You know what I mean?

647
00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:42,200
Like and I'm sure there was
important intellectuals there as

648
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,600
well, but you know, it makes me
feel like they just seeded the

649
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,200
culture with this idea so that
when they dropped the UAP

650
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,500
information, people were just
like, okay, whatever because

651
00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:57,800
we've already been so
desensitized to the idea of

652
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,100
these things being out there.
So, you know, I almost I feel

653
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:02,300
like they pushed it out on
purpose and got people to go

654
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:04,300
there on purpose that in my
opinion.

655
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,900
Hey buddy, bear with us while we
take this quick break.

656
00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:18,000
Well, let me give you a little
piece of information, I made

657
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,700
change your theory on it, so the
narrative for the storming of

658
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:32,000
Area, 51 event, it changed.
So I basically got the idea for

659
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:40,100
the film 23 days before.
So the event basically, it

660
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:43,700
started so it would have been 30
days out.

661
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:53,400
Seven days after the event, the
Facebook event gets made the

662
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,700
event starts to really get news
coverage.

663
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:02,500
I would say, I start to put the
crew and everything together, 21

664
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,900
days out.
And then, in the next seven

665
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:11,800
days, all The Narrative changed,
the they were saying how it was

666
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,100
going to be a fry Festival.
They're telling people not to

667
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:18,500
go.
They were actually like all the

668
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:22,600
news outlets were warning people
and you'll see this in the film.

669
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,900
The Narrative chains, like,
you'll see something they were

670
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,100
threatening to shoot people.
If they went, and they got the

671
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,200
guy Matty Blake who created the
event?

672
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:37,800
They got him to do it. his hip
his event, change it to in Las

673
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:43,300
Vegas and the interview that
like he was terrified, the guy

674
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:48,300
got totally scared out of it so
I can tell you without a doubt

675
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:58,900
that the event was It was a
cultural phenomenon or 14 days

676
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:05,000
and for the next 10 to 12 days,
it was it was literally bad,

677
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,100
bad, bad, bad bad, don't go,
you'll die, you're not going

678
00:43:09,100 --> 00:43:11,300
like it's bad, bad, bad, bad
bad.

679
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:16,200
So I think there were some
outside forces that change the

680
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,300
narrative and I can tell you
from someone who is prepping to

681
00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:23,600
film a movie there.
Like for sure than the narrative

682
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:27,500
change so I can see that but it
makes me wonder if that was like

683
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:30,300
some kind of weird.
Siop you know it's like you it's

684
00:43:30,300 --> 00:43:32,700
like telling the kid not to put
his hand in the cookie jar and

685
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:37,700
you know he's going to do it.
I mean I think this II was

686
00:43:37,700 --> 00:43:40,500
psychology thing.
Well I think the siop was

687
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:45,300
getting that just to minimize
whatever was going to happen and

688
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:50,000
they did a good job they
definitely stymied it but But

689
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,700
they did, you can't stop
anything like that completely.

690
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:58,800
But in it's a huge difference in
controlling fifteen twenty

691
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,400
thousand people as it is to
3000.

692
00:44:02,500 --> 00:44:04,800
You know, that's a huge effort.
I mean, and then you get up to

693
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,800
100,000 people, you can't do
nothing.

694
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,900
You can't control a mob like
that.

695
00:44:08,900 --> 00:44:13,200
Well, the only reason I say any
say that as my theory is

696
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,200
because, you know, like, if they
really didn't want any attention

697
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,300
on it, then the media wouldn't
have put any of Tension on it,

698
00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:23,400
you know, I feel like there's
got to be, you know, again I'm

699
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:27,100
I'm the conspiracy guy here.
So I like to think that whatever

700
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:30,000
media narrative there is
whatever they're saying the

701
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:34,200
opposite is probably true.
So you know, I have this and

702
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,800
also that they're in cahoots
with government organizations.

703
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,000
So you know I see you can hold
on.

704
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Everything is a good who's like
one way or the other?

705
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:46,200
Yeah, for sure.
But it just makes me wonder, you

706
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,300
know?
Like did they try to like maybe

707
00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:51,200
less in the crowd but But still
give it enough attention knowing

708
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,500
that it would send a few
thousand people over there.

709
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:56,600
Well, but sometimes he
understand that like Avalanches

710
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,600
occur just because there's so
much pressure built up true and

711
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,000
this this was an avalanche, you
know, wasn't like and it's

712
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,600
something that just has to has
to happen.

713
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:10,300
And, you know, if you can just
control the Avalanche a little

714
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:14,000
bit than they did their job, and
I think that's kind of what it

715
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,500
was about an avalanche occurred
because pressure had built up

716
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:22,100
but they, you know, They
controlled it to the best of

717
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:24,500
their ability.
And that's why I like I can't

718
00:45:24,500 --> 00:45:26,300
wait for you because you're
actually going to see you're

719
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:28,900
going to see footage like you
never have of this event.

720
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,300
Like you can't you go trust me
when we got home.

721
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:36,100
I had 33 hours of footage to
edit and because of you know,

722
00:45:36,107 --> 00:45:38,700
the pandemic all kinds of you
know all kinds of stuff.

723
00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:47,500
The the editing of the movie
took years years but I watched

724
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:49,400
every piece of news footage that
was out.

725
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:53,800
Out there and nothing really
encapsulates.

726
00:45:53,800 --> 00:46:00,000
What the event was and what
these people even were there

727
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,600
for?
Then what I did and and it

728
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,800
wasn't just me.
Let me give credit before we go

729
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,200
any further Jeffrey McNeil the
editor of the movie.

730
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,300
I've been working with him for
years and I knew that if I got

731
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:18,800
this footage he could he could
really put it over the top.

732
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:24,800
And this film, look the the
budget, working budget this

733
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,800
movie is about a hundred eleven
thousand dollars.

734
00:46:27,300 --> 00:46:30,100
What you're about to see most
people on the planet couldn't do

735
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:34,800
for a half million and I'm very
proud of that and it's because a

736
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,400
lot of people like a lot of the
crew, they worked really hard.

737
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,500
And everybody, everybody that
was on it.

738
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:46,500
I push them just hard enough to
help create some greatness but

739
00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:51,100
without quitting, you know, And
that and that to me like that's

740
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:54,800
something that I don't know if
people are going to when they

741
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,700
watch the movie.
I don't know if they're going to

742
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:59,000
be able to see other not going
to be able to see that I can

743
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,400
they're not, I don't even know
what I'm saying.

744
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:06,800
But I would like to express that
because it's, it's in this alien

745
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,500
UFO conspiracy subculture.
As you guys know, there's a lot

746
00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:13,600
of hatred, there's a lot of
animosity.

747
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:17,300
You know, people like if you
step out on a limb, people are

748
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:20,600
so quick to tear you down.
And I knew if I was going to

749
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:25,200
make a project for this
community, like it had to be,

750
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,600
you know, it had to be able to
handle the firing squad.

751
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,000
So many actions.
It's like any of these theories

752
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,900
really are showing two columns.
They, there's so many factions

753
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:43,400
of, you know, like ask Jeremy
about the Bigfoot factions can,

754
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,800
can I My go down the line and I
want to ask because I really

755
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,100
think this is a wonderful
podcast and you guys all bring

756
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,400
something very unique but I'm
very curious.

757
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,800
I'll guy just want to hear what?
Every one of your guys is what

758
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,800
your number one conspiracy
theory or number.

759
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,300
One, kind of esoteric thought is
like the thing that like kind of

760
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:09,700
maybe haunt you or keeps you up
at night or something that

761
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:12,500
nobody but you believes in, like
I just had it done.

762
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:15,100
I don't need a dissertation but
I'm Very curious.

763
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:17,200
Yes, I like Jeremy.
Go ahead.

764
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:18,700
Let me hear.
What's yours, Jeremy?

765
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:22,600
Well, the listeners will be very
familiar with this, but I'm a

766
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,000
humongous Bigfoot believer
because I saw when I was 9 years

767
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,600
old.
Okay, okay, so my question is

768
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,200
no, no, and the big thing is a
great Theory.

769
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,400
Now, my question is, do you
think Bigfoot is a humanoid or,

770
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,400
or Or just another another
species.

771
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,700
Like, what do you think it is
that because you have to have an

772
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:49,300
explanation for what it is?
It's it's such a tough question.

773
00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:54,700
Honestly, I don't but I you
know, I want to go with the

774
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:59,700
Occam's razor, you know thing
and just say this is just an

775
00:48:59,700 --> 00:49:03,400
animal that lives in the woods.
It's a little smarter than

776
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,100
everything else out there and
just doesn't want to be found.

777
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,000
That's why we haven't found.
Okay, well you did.

778
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,700
I what where's that evolutionary
tree on this was it because so

779
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:15,900
there's got to be some human
aspects to it.

780
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:20,100
So then at some point in time,
genetically, some animal was

781
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:22,400
mixed with human DNA.
Is that way?

782
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,700
I know, I don't think so.
I did things than others.

783
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:28,900
You see all together it.
Well I mean you know there's the

784
00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:33,500
whole theory about
gigantopithecus Blackie and how

785
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:36,600
you know it could have came over
through the barren land straight

786
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,200
from Russia to Alaska and down.
You know, this pretty much same

787
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,900
path is Native Americans.
Took lot of people don't know

788
00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:45,200
this, but Native Americans
actually share a lot of the same

789
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,700
DNA and blood lines as as early
Asian cultures in the

790
00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:50,900
Mongolians.
Yeah.

791
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:52,100
In the Mongolians.
Exactly.

792
00:49:52,900 --> 00:49:55,500
And they also took that trip
through the barren Land Street

793
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:57,400
and this could be just another
another creature.

794
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:01,300
I mean, if you look over in
that, that area of the world you

795
00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:08,500
you have the yeren and the yeti
that also are plaguing the, the

796
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,600
you know, the the forest and the
creativity, the creative minds

797
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:15,300
over there.
You know, the the people that

798
00:50:15,300 --> 00:50:19,200
are looking into the Shadows are
trying to find upright.

799
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,000
Walking Perry people out in the
middle of the woods to when they

800
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,900
have their own names is.
Don't call him Bigfoot or

801
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,300
Sasquatch.
And if you follow the path, that

802
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:31,900
the natives were supposed to
have taken, you know, I mean

803
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:35,400
what's to say that
gigantopithecus black, you

804
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,900
couldn't have taken that same
path and we know that

805
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:45,200
gigantopithecus lived, it lived
in Asia, you know, it was there,

806
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:49,300
could it just be a very small
population of gigantopithecus?

807
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:53,800
It could, could it be a?
I mean, do we know for a fact

808
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,800
that the Neanderthals Were
hairless.

809
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,000
You know, for the most part.
No we don't mean shit to me.

810
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,900
It could even be into the
Neanderthal.

811
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:04,600
I'm not too big.
Where were you when you saw it?

812
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,800
I was in New England.
Well because it changed your

813
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,200
life, huh.
It did it did and that's why I

814
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,800
built this podcast.
Beautiful.

815
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:21,300
Jeff, what about you, man?
That's that's a tough question,

816
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:23,800
man.
But I have to say, probably

817
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:28,700
something along the lines of
like Project Blue beam, refresh

818
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:30,500
my memory, what's blue?
But I know I've heard this

819
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:34,800
project, blue beams where the
governments of the world, fake,

820
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,600
some sort of second coming or a
The Invasion.

821
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,400
Sure sure.
False flag an alien false flag.

822
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:45,800
Sure, bring about the One World
Government all that good stuff.

823
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:48,100
That's probably one of my
favorite.

824
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:53,100
Now, I wasn't going to go too
far down the rabbit hole but

825
00:51:53,100 --> 00:51:56,600
then when I brought up the
government, releasing that

826
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,900
information.
But that's what scared terrifies

827
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:02,600
me the most.
Because I think it's a big setup

828
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:07,700
for alien, false flag, right?
And, you know, I mean that's

829
00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:14,900
It's like I have again no no
reason like no factual reason to

830
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:19,500
think that other than
historically speaking it's that

831
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,600
the government usually has its
own self-interest in my not

832
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:27,900
actually the people right?
Which is why I brought up that

833
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:32,100
theory a few minutes ago about.
It just being some weird psyop

834
00:52:32,100 --> 00:52:35,900
because I do believe that the
government has been you know,

835
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:39,400
seeding the Not just are
populated by the world's

836
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,800
population.
The world's governments have

837
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,400
been seeding.
The world's populations, with

838
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:46,300
this idea, of aliens
extraterrestrials, when they

839
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:51,400
very, well, could be beings from
inside the Earth or they could

840
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:55,100
just be craft or drones or who
knows, you know what's crazy is?

841
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,900
I always tell people, I'm not a
conspiracy theorist, but I know

842
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:03,400
every conspiracy theory in and
help with that door, Mackinac,

843
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,400
come hang out with me for a few
shows and I'll get Yeah, we're

844
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,100
too.
Poor to God knew it.

845
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:12,900
Jake.
What about you?

846
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,700
I'm surprised Jeff.
Didn't talk about the dinosaurs

847
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:21,200
being fake.
That's well that's one of our

848
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:26,700
shows that are coming up were
but yeah I might argue that one

849
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:34,200
but I mean you're so old.
The Earth is just so so old like

850
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,900
the history that has been the
amount of knowledge Judge that

851
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:40,900
has been lost on.
This planet is incredible.

852
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:47,100
That like, it's it's
mind-boggling that we like it's

853
00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:51,300
literally taught that prior
civilizations civilizations were

854
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:53,700
barely.
You know, where stick carrying

855
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:56,400
people that, that could barely
communicate.

856
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,600
And that's not only a lie, it's
constantly disproven.

857
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:05,300
And, and just shoved, you know,
into some closet or some Museum

858
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:08,100
basement because it can't be
Rised.

859
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:16,200
It's it's really sad that that
people aren't taught to look a

860
00:54:16,207 --> 00:54:18,600
little deeper like about what
has happened.

861
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,200
What has and has not happened on
this planet because there's so

862
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:26,300
much now, the dinosaurs I'd need
to know your timeline of when

863
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:30,400
you think it didn't happen.
But, you know, there's been a

864
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:37,000
lot, a lot of stuff on this
planet, that that has been lost

865
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,000
or forgotten.
Gotten to Never Be Remembered.

866
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,500
And that's a point before, I
would love to argue in the

867
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:45,300
dinosaur Gondor.
So we could do that in the

868
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:47,500
future that the yeah, yeah,
yeah.

869
00:54:47,500 --> 00:54:51,700
This is your problem with
evolutionary theory because it

870
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:53,600
is a theory.
There's a lot of assumptions and

871
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,700
that just saw down a long hold.
Well, there's a hundred percent

872
00:54:56,700 --> 00:55:03,600
of our DNA The progress of our
Evolution has been exponential

873
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:05,900
instance in the last hundred
years or so.

874
00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:12,200
Did your what, you know, I'd say
200, you know, the way our DNA

875
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:20,200
and from from Early times and
now there's been some type of

876
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:26,200
adjustments and I don't believe
that evolutionary timeline makes

877
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,900
sense with how we actually
evolved.

878
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:35,500
So, A missing link somewhere.
I would I would say that would

879
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:40,200
be the alien influence.
If you want to know, like the

880
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,700
far out there that would be like
if aliens ever did come to the

881
00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:46,900
planet, it would be the whoever
would be the Anunnaki.

882
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,900
It would, they would have
somehow altered our DNA for us

883
00:55:51,900 --> 00:55:54,900
to become some type of worker,
bees for them.

884
00:55:54,900 --> 00:55:57,900
For some reason whatever me on a
whole other show man will be

885
00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:59,300
here all night.
Sure sure.

886
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,100
Assuming that I mean it's for
evolution really make sense.

887
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:08,900
Someone has to alter our DNA You
know, and for their, you know,

888
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:13,000
for whatever reason, you know,
maybe in their same image, I

889
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:18,900
did, you know, again, this is,
you know, this is something that

890
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:22,000
I, you know, time and time
again.

891
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:23,900
It's been brought to my
attention.

892
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:29,800
But how to actually for someone
like me to actually make that

893
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:36,400
Missing Link, you know, viable,
you know for other people to And

894
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,400
that is really there.
It's, I would love to do that.

895
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:43,500
Like, if I could do another
knot, I don't know.

896
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,400
Like, I would like to move into
real movies, but if I could do

897
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:51,500
it another documentary, I would
love to do it about science,

898
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:56,400
that gets brushed under the rug
science that gets because the

899
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,500
scientific Community used to be
all about Innovation now because

900
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:05,300
it's so funded by big business.
It's about grants and getting

901
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:08,800
published and continued funding.
It's not about Innovation

902
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,600
because Innovation means someone
in the past was wrong and that's

903
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:19,700
very hard to do when University
money so dependent on, you know,

904
00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:22,700
studies.
Well, I've got some some plugs

905
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:24,600
for you.
We'll talk after the show.

906
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,300
I'll send you some people that
you could probably make a

907
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:28,800
kick-ass movie.
Yeah.

908
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,700
See that again.
You know, the universe presents

909
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:35,600
you the things, you know, right?
When you need them, Jake what's

910
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,500
yours?
Yeah, what's your big thing?

911
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,500
You know, I'm on board with
Jeremy on this one.

912
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:46,900
It's it's Bigfoot to bigfooters?
Yeah, I didn't, I didn't care at

913
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:48,100
all.
I didn't think about it.

914
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:51,900
Prior to Jeremy approaching me
with his story, but it was a

915
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:54,500
crazy and visceral.
And I still didn't really

916
00:57:54,500 --> 00:57:57,700
believe him too much.
And we started doing this

917
00:57:57,700 --> 00:58:00,200
podcast and stuff, and we
started meeting with people.

918
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,000
That kind of showed me what to
look for and stuff.

919
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:06,700
And this last camping trip, I
had like five months, Ago, had

920
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:09,900
some pretty crazy experience,
has got all the tree knocks and

921
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:13,900
the screaming in the woods and
saw footprint like just like all

922
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:16,000
sorts of stuff.
So for me I'm just like, I'm

923
00:58:16,008 --> 00:58:19,000
like, all right cool.
You know, let's let's see, one,

924
00:58:19,500 --> 00:58:22,900
hold the horses.
Okay, there's two things that I

925
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:26,700
want to ask first.
Did you really if you really

926
00:58:26,700 --> 00:58:30,300
wanted to experience all that
stuff, the mine has a very funny

927
00:58:30,300 --> 00:58:37,300
way.
So here's the thing, so There

928
00:58:37,300 --> 00:58:40,600
was 10 adults there and everyone
heard the exact same thing.

929
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,600
They all start talking about it.
The next day, they're like like

930
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,900
I have this huge game, right?
This is like, yeah, if I saw

931
00:58:46,900 --> 00:58:48,400
Bigfoot of blah, blah blah,
blah.

932
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,100
I couldn't breathe or move while
this was going on, right?

933
00:58:52,100 --> 00:58:56,800
I was in my sleeping bag.
Just locked in and the people

934
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,300
the drunk people that were, you
know, maybe three-quarters of a

935
00:58:59,308 --> 00:59:01,700
mile or so away from us in the
next campsite over because it's

936
00:59:01,700 --> 00:59:04,500
pretty much a, just find a spot
and stay there sort of a thing,

937
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:07,700
you know out there.
The boonies and they were out

938
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:09,700
there screaming.
They had their music and you can

939
00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:12,900
hear move and then this started
happening and they went dead

940
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,000
silent.
And then the music turned off

941
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,900
and it was just tree knocks.
And these loud guttural sounds

942
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:22,000
like really deep throated
screams out into the woods.

943
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,700
Just like it was crazy.
And then the next morning,

944
00:59:27,700 --> 00:59:30,800
everyone was just just chatting
about like, oh, my gosh, did you

945
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,900
hear that?
That was crazy.

946
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:33,800
Like no one.
No one was.

947
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,600
Shut up about it.
And it was so Some dude on meth,

948
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,300
right?
I mean it is California but we

949
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:41,100
were way far away from Fresno.
Okay.

950
00:59:41,100 --> 00:59:45,000
You know like way out and so I
grew up in Fresno and yeah

951
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:46,900
definitely would have been meth
in Fresno.

952
00:59:46,900 --> 00:59:50,700
Yeah.
But that's usually what I

953
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:53,500
attribute.
It was it was up in up and Dinky

954
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:56,900
Creak.
Where's this just passed?

955
00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:59,400
Shaver just passed Shaver Lake.
Okay.

956
00:59:59,700 --> 01:00:03,500
So basically in it's crazy too
because we went up there and

957
01:00:03,500 --> 01:00:07,300
Shaver Lake you know, two years
ago I hit That massive fire that

958
01:00:07,300 --> 01:00:09,800
whole area burned up.
Yeah Shaver Lake is just

959
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,400
matchsticks.
It's crazy but just passed it

960
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:18,100
like 10 miles more North you hit
dinky Creek and it's Lush and

961
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:22,600
green and you know we had so we
had the pandemic that shut down

962
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,700
all the the forestry areas
because they couldn't get

963
01:00:24,700 --> 01:00:26,400
employees to go work there and
stuff like that.

964
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:30,500
So I replace was closed up and
we had two fires.

965
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,700
So for two years, these animals
just pushed up into that area

966
01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:35,800
and we're just chilling out.
Lee.

967
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:39,300
We were shooting my hunting
rifle at a tree and we turned

968
01:00:39,300 --> 01:00:41,900
around in this big old gnarly.
Buck was just standing there.

969
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:43,700
Staring at us like 30 yards
behind us.

970
01:00:43,700 --> 01:00:47,000
There was no fear whatsoever.
Just like oh hey it just kind of

971
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,000
hanging out.
It was so weird but like like

972
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,100
that was like the area where it
was experiencing it would make

973
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:56,200
sense.
Like if this is a you know

974
01:00:56,300 --> 01:00:58,100
another animal that's out there
I believe it is.

975
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:00,900
I'm a Christian guy, right?
I believe that God created

976
01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:02,800
everything, that's no
evolutionary anything that's

977
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,800
just another type of animal.
Like we have all the Various

978
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,700
types of great apes that they
look similar, but they're

979
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,900
slightly different right
chimpanzees.

980
01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:14,300
You know, gorillas orangutans.
All that sort of stuff.

981
01:01:14,500 --> 01:01:16,200
They could just be another one.
I believe that.

982
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,500
Gigantopithecus existed, I'm
going to let Jeff try to say

983
01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:24,300
that dinosaurs aren't real.
I do I'm gonna let him go but

984
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,800
but you know, I don't think that
we evolved from anything.

985
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,700
I think this is just another
type of animal, but why would it

986
01:01:30,700 --> 01:01:33,800
be not where the food source is?
And in that case, it would be

987
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:35,900
the untouched unburned areas.
Area.

988
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,000
But it was, it was absolutely
mind-blowing and it was like,

989
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:41,400
but I agree with you, right?
If you're out there and you're

990
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:45,000
just like I'm gonna see one, you
know anything, you know like you

991
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:49,200
know I saw holy fits proof you
know but it's just like it was

992
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,700
it was pretty nuts.
It was crazy.

993
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,900
How much of a Christian are you
very you believe Jesus walked on

994
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:59,500
water?
Yeah, he's God I mean no create

995
01:01:59,500 --> 01:02:03,200
if he could create so I'm not
saying anything's wrong with me.

996
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:12,000
If I believe that God created
all this heat, put the physics

997
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,100
and place.
He put the way the universe

998
01:02:15,100 --> 01:02:18,400
works together in place.
Then why couldn't he be outside

999
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,900
of that and defy those laws that
he created as God?

1000
01:02:22,300 --> 01:02:27,200
Because the Bible says that
Jesus made all this in the

1001
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,400
beginning was the word and the
Word was with God.

1002
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,000
And everything was made
everything that I'm really.

1003
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:37,500
I'm not saying if you want to
say, I've studied religion very

1004
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:42,500
thoroughly but my point that I
usually bring to the table on

1005
01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:47,100
this as I.
So the story tells you the

1006
01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:50,500
beginning.
Well, the beginning is a lot

1007
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:54,000
further back, but the stories
talking about.

1008
01:02:54,200 --> 01:03:00,000
And so that is where a problem
for me in this.

1009
01:03:00,100 --> 01:03:03,900
Ticular story comes in just
because I believe the history of

1010
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:08,100
this planet and he this human
form.

1011
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:14,000
As we know, maybe very, you
know, it may be very, very new.

1012
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,500
Like, what was occupied the
planet before, who knows?

1013
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,600
I mean, I'm not smart enough to
explain but I know the history

1014
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:24,300
of the plant goes back much
further than what, I believe.

1015
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:28,100
The Bible and anything in any
interpretation.

1016
01:03:28,100 --> 01:03:32,900
It's there's there's a pastor An
apologist, really smart guy

1017
01:03:32,900 --> 01:03:36,500
named, Frank Turek, and he put
it really well, he does this

1018
01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:39,800
like little YouTube shorts, this
show is called cross-examined.

1019
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,700
Basically, he does college
campuses people ask questions q

1020
01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:45,600
a sort of stuff and whether
they're Christians or other

1021
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,300
faiths or atheist or whatever it
is.

1022
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:50,700
He and he does debates and
everything but he you know,

1023
01:03:50,700 --> 01:03:53,200
someone was really going hard
into the like theory of

1024
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,500
evolution and stuff and he said,
you know, even if evolution is

1025
01:03:57,500 --> 01:03:59,900
real, it doesn't take anything
away from Christ.

1026
01:04:01,500 --> 01:04:06,800
If if we, you know, and probably
a cool dude and now he's like it

1027
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:08,900
was probably her.
Yeah.

1028
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:12,000
I mean but you know, and I was
sitting here like like, you

1029
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,500
know, there's two sides of the
fence.

1030
01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:15,900
There's either the creationists
and evolutionists, and he was

1031
01:04:15,900 --> 01:04:18,100
like, even if you believe in
evolution, it doesn't take

1032
01:04:18,100 --> 01:04:22,300
anything away from Jesus, right?
Even if you died for your sins

1033
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:24,200
and all that stuff, it doesn't
take anything away from that.

1034
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,400
So, You know, if it comes, when
it comes down to it for me, the

1035
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,600
whole where do we come from?
Is the creation story?

1036
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,700
Like, oh, geez.
All the sex in Christianity that

1037
01:04:35,700 --> 01:04:38,500
believe that either.
It was a literal seven days, or

1038
01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:40,900
it was seven time frames.
All that sort of stuff.

1039
01:04:41,500 --> 01:04:44,400
It makes no difference to me,
because as it's just like, it's

1040
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:49,800
a fun talking point, but it's
like, but it's just like, but at

1041
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:51,700
the same time, I can agree with
you.

1042
01:04:51,700 --> 01:04:54,300
You know, there's also sects of
Christianity were there.

1043
01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:58,100
Like, no, it was seven.
Is and this is a young Earth

1044
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:00,700
that's made to look old.
And then there's other people

1045
01:05:00,700 --> 01:05:05,300
that say, well, it was seven
periods of time and this is an

1046
01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:09,800
old Earth and maybe the
dinosaurs and all those sorts of

1047
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,400
things.
In the sloths, the size of

1048
01:05:11,408 --> 01:05:15,700
minivans were all made just
prior to man being created.

1049
01:05:15,700 --> 01:05:18,300
So yeah, there's a lot of, you
know, Division and all that sort

1050
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:21,000
of stuff when it comes down to
it, you know, I'm pretty

1051
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,700
hardcore my faith and bigfoots
just another animal.

1052
01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:30,800
A big scary, hairy beast, that
screams, and ruins, campers

1053
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,000
sleep.
When when you see something

1054
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,200
like, Gobekli Tepe, what do you
think?

1055
01:05:36,300 --> 01:05:37,700
You know anything about good
bugs?

1056
01:05:37,700 --> 01:05:41,500
Have been in Turkey.
Jeff mentioned something about

1057
01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:43,800
it, in one of our episodes
educated.

1058
01:05:43,800 --> 01:05:45,300
You bro, you don't remember,
dude.

1059
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:47,400
I brain dump yesterday.
All right.

1060
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:51,100
Go back.
We tap a man.

1061
01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:55,600
This is what they do.
Go up this pot and turkey and It

1062
01:05:55,600 --> 01:06:00,200
was apparently purposely buried
what 11,500 years ago or 11,000.

1063
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,500
Yeah, probably 11,000 years ago.
Yeah.

1064
01:06:02,700 --> 01:06:07,700
But it was sophisticated and but
it was intentionally obviously

1065
01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:15,600
constructed with 50 70 ton rocks
with with and yeah, and they

1066
01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:18,000
great.
Carvings from animals that

1067
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,800
weren't even indigenous to the
area.

1068
01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:25,900
Yeah, so when it comes to that,
That kind of goes into my belief

1069
01:06:25,900 --> 01:06:32,400
about the level of intelligence
and sophistication in society.

1070
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,300
I guess I don't know if I'm
explaining this right.

1071
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:39,600
That people were pre-flood like
what could cause people to be so

1072
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:41,500
bad.
That God flooded the Earth and

1073
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:44,300
killed everybody except for one
family, you know?

1074
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:52,400
And that's I have no issue
believing that prior to most of

1075
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:56,600
because I mean that was in
Genesis prior to Exodus and

1076
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,100
Leviticus and Deuteronomy and
Moses and you know, the

1077
01:06:59,100 --> 01:07:01,000
Israelites and all that stuff.
I think that there were

1078
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:05,000
societies on the earth that were
41 plagued with sin.

1079
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,200
So God killed them all after,
giving them generations, and

1080
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,300
generations, generations to
repent, but they never did.

1081
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:14,900
But also, I think that, if
people were allowed to just do

1082
01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:18,300
whatever they wanted to and have
their Endeavors and just go for,

1083
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:20,900
I think that people have always
been as smart as they are.

1084
01:07:20,908 --> 01:07:23,000
They are now.
There's always those outliers

1085
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,300
the people that are super duper
smart like if my phone hardcore

1086
01:07:26,300 --> 01:07:29,100
broke today like I replaced the
screen but if it hardcore broke

1087
01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:31,700
today I'd have no idea how to
fix it.

1088
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,900
And if all those people died
right now that knew how to fix

1089
01:07:34,900 --> 01:07:38,300
that phone, we would go back to
the oldest crappiest model of

1090
01:07:38,300 --> 01:07:40,400
phone because we'd have nothing
else, right?

1091
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:42,300
I think those people have always
existed.

1092
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:46,100
They've always been able to have
the resources at their disposal

1093
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:50,600
and be able to do amazing,
incredible things or horrible

1094
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:51,300
things.
Them.

1095
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,900
I think that civilizations like
that probably existed and there

1096
01:07:55,900 --> 01:07:59,000
are all over the place and they
were, you know, just

1097
01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,500
mind-bogglingly intelligent more
so than people give them credit

1098
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:07,100
for.
But then they that history that

1099
01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:11,100
technology, all that stuff was
lost and maybe buried underneath

1100
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:14,800
a hundred miles of sediment and
now and then we had to start

1101
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,300
from scratch.
Well, I can totally agree that

1102
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:20,800
like, well, I can agree with the
point that there was definitely

1103
01:08:20,899 --> 01:08:24,200
A flood of major flood on this
planet that wiped out a lot of

1104
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,700
stuff.
What caused that flood?

1105
01:08:26,700 --> 01:08:29,800
I mean you and I will probably
always disagree.

1106
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:33,600
I would never believe in a God
that murders an entire planet

1107
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:39,700
but but whatever caused the
flood did change the course of

1108
01:08:39,707 --> 01:08:45,600
this planet and I just hope that
I never see that in, you know,

1109
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:50,300
in my days and I'm going to go
historically speaking since it

1110
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:51,399
hasn't happened.
Happened.

1111
01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:54,300
And however, many thousands of
years I'm going to hope we can

1112
01:08:54,300 --> 01:09:00,500
make it You know, because I feel
like the world that you're

1113
01:09:00,500 --> 01:09:03,000
describing.
They got destroyed is very close

1114
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,399
to the one that is now.
Yeah, I would say.

1115
01:09:06,399 --> 01:09:09,399
So I would say that I'm shocked
that you didn't eat.

1116
01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:13,200
I had State still exist as we
know it because Sodom and

1117
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,000
Gomorrah only got so bad before.
They are burned up.

1118
01:09:16,500 --> 01:09:20,200
And we're at least we have to be
getting somewhere close.

1119
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,600
But at same time.
Have you looked into close?

1120
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,000
What is closed?
Here's really what it like you

1121
01:09:27,300 --> 01:09:29,500
have no idea this could be it's
good.

1122
01:09:29,500 --> 01:09:33,500
This could be the hundredth
iteration I mean yeah.

1123
01:09:33,899 --> 01:09:36,500
Have you checked out the
Yellowstone supervolcano that

1124
01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:40,200
could go up tomorrow and then
98% of the earth is gone.

1125
01:09:42,700 --> 01:09:50,800
Again lately a few times.
No this one.

1126
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,100
This one could happen at any
time.

1127
01:09:52,100 --> 01:09:54,500
It could happen in the next ten
minutes, of course and this is

1128
01:09:54,500 --> 01:09:57,300
what I always.
Tell people the same thing it

1129
01:09:57,300 --> 01:10:01,600
could happen, but historically
speaking, it hasn't and that's

1130
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,400
why predicting, the end of the
world is so difficult because it

1131
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:09,500
only happens one time.
Yeah, if it's from a Christian

1132
01:10:09,500 --> 01:10:13,600
perspective, saying that this is
when the world is going to end

1133
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:18,900
like what was 2012, was a big
one, right there, is definitely

1134
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:21,800
a very well-known passages in
the Bible that says no one knows

1135
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:24,700
the day or the hour, not the
angels in heaven, only the

1136
01:10:24,700 --> 01:10:27,500
father.
So, for anyone to say, well,

1137
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:30,500
this is what it's going to end.
I mean they just need to crack

1138
01:10:30,500 --> 01:10:34,100
that Dusty Bad Boy open and read
then couple verses and just be

1139
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:36,000
like, oh never mind, I'm
probably wrong.

1140
01:10:36,300 --> 01:10:38,900
Yeah.
What about you Ken Czar was

1141
01:10:38,900 --> 01:10:40,600
like?
Don't tell me Bigfoot.

1142
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,100
I'll be so sad.
If you say Bigfoot, I wouldn't

1143
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:48,700
ago.
So, I've always been into a

1144
01:10:48,708 --> 01:10:53,300
little bit of everything Bigfoot
does interest me, but not as

1145
01:10:53,300 --> 01:11:00,700
much as it interests everybody
else here apparently lately, I

1146
01:11:00,700 --> 01:11:03,500
find myself getting really into
Flat Earth.

1147
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:09,500
Yes, dude, I'm really digging
flooded the Flat Earth theory

1148
01:11:09,500 --> 01:11:11,700
and the whole idea around that
lately.

1149
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,400
I love the idea of the Arctic,
Ice wall, or the Antarctic Ice

1150
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,500
wall.
Whatever that is like.

1151
01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:22,600
There's just so much.
There's so much to it.

1152
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:29,500
It's so interesting.
Well, I think the most

1153
01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:37,900
incredible thing about about
that is, is magnification from a

1154
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:42,700
distance.
Like when they say you should be

1155
01:11:42,700 --> 01:11:46,300
able to see the curvature from a
boat all the way out.

1156
01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:52,300
Well, you can magnify something,
however, you know. 500x and you

1157
01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:55,200
can still see it.
Well, you should really only be

1158
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,200
seen the top of the boat.
You a flat earther.

1159
01:11:58,200 --> 01:11:59,500
Brian.
No.

1160
01:11:59,500 --> 01:12:03,000
But I'm just saying that's of
all like I say I know every

1161
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:06,300
conspiracy theory in and out
like I can tell you the high

1162
01:12:06,300 --> 01:12:10,100
points of them all and I would
say that is the high point of

1163
01:12:10,100 --> 01:12:12,400
that theory for me.
Yes, I feel that.

1164
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:15,400
I'll just say I go back and
forth between being a flat

1165
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:17,900
earther and not a flatter
through probably on The Daily

1166
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:21,900
and you It's big foot above
that.

1167
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:23,600
I didn't pick Big Five picked
up.

1168
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:29,500
Oh no, sorry, sorry.
So wait, why do you go back and

1169
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:32,200
forth day?
Like what is the because for me,

1170
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,800
because me, here's the thing is
knowing the proper Flat Earth

1171
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:40,400
model.
There's so many like

1172
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,000
disinformation Flat, Earth
models out there like the Flat

1173
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,800
Earth Society, definitely
government opposition and it,

1174
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,100
our government controlled
opposition and it's just like

1175
01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:52,000
if, you know, the Proper model
not to say that it's like

1176
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:56,300
correct but like if you know the
proper Flat Earth model, it's

1177
01:12:56,300 --> 01:12:58,300
really, really hard to debunk
those things.

1178
01:12:58,300 --> 01:13:02,200
And all I ever see like online
is people debunking the bullshit

1179
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,900
model and nobody even knows the
proper model.

1180
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:07,700
So when you sit down and
actually figure out what that

1181
01:13:07,700 --> 01:13:10,700
proper model is, it's super hard
bone.

1182
01:13:10,900 --> 01:13:14,600
So I like space I play Space
video games, all of space

1183
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,700
movies, I'll think that worries
me.

1184
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,400
You know what I mean?
But then like how but its fake.

1185
01:13:20,300 --> 01:13:23,700
The I tell people that space is
fake and by that I mean it's not

1186
01:13:23,700 --> 01:13:26,100
what we're told.
We're not given the whole truth

1187
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:29,900
and nothing but the truth about
space and you know, sometimes I

1188
01:13:29,907 --> 01:13:34,600
wake up and I'm like bro it is
flat and I'm like maybe not I

1189
01:13:34,608 --> 01:13:40,600
don't know like I lean more
towards with Jeff on a lot of

1190
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:46,000
things actually like I don't
know if it's actually flat I

1191
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:50,000
don't I would love to know the
answer to that question though.

1192
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,100
But is still.
So very interesting to look into

1193
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:58,100
and like, like Jeff said, space
is definitely not what they tell

1194
01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:02,200
us.
It is Welcome to the dark side

1195
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,700
cancer, you know?
I clatters movie, bro, I will

1196
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:15,100
world.
You know, my I would absolutely

1197
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:24,100
love to see for myself.
I think this planet is such a

1198
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:29,900
beautiful place and I've had the
fortune of traveling to remote

1199
01:14:29,900 --> 01:14:34,500
places.
And, and I can't.

1200
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:41,600
I in my mind, like I understand
the Flat Earth theory but I just

1201
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:48,000
can't imagine that we're not,
this Celestial body in floating

1202
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:52,100
in space because of you know all
the astronomy that I've studied

1203
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:56,700
and I've actually seen, you
know, Alpha Centauri, you know,

1204
01:14:56,700 --> 01:15:04,400
like I've seen the galaxies,
I've seen them and to think that

1205
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:10,100
we are just A flat disk.
And that is some remote.

1206
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:14,200
That is just some thing put in,
I don't know.

1207
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,700
We're just like a tiny little
video game or something.

1208
01:15:16,700 --> 01:15:18,700
I don't know.
The Flat Earth theory would have

1209
01:15:18,700 --> 01:15:23,500
to lead into us, just maybe
being in a simulation of some

1210
01:15:23,500 --> 01:15:26,200
kind and some kind of biodome,
right?

1211
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:31,500
And then like the the remote
galaxies at him scene or just

1212
01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:35,300
like wallpaper like you know how
you'd put those stars on your

1213
01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:37,100
ceiling.
He's a kid that would glow in

1214
01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:40,600
the dark like that.
Like so that's what I'm looking

1215
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,200
at.
I just find that I can't.

1216
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:46,800
I just can't make that jump.
You think of The Truman Show?

1217
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:52,100
It's the seating seating or the
indoctrination.

1218
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:55,400
That's the argument against that
particular thing is, you know,

1219
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,700
yeah.
We all see the lights of The

1220
01:15:57,700 --> 01:16:00,800
Luminaries in the sky, but only
because we were taught that

1221
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,200
their celestial bodies in an
infinite space.

1222
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:07,800
That's what we automatically
assume that they are Our but who

1223
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,600
knows?
I mean for thousands of years

1224
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,300
people those were the gods or
those were the Angels where

1225
01:16:12,300 --> 01:16:15,200
those were the luminaries, or
whatever the case may be.

1226
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:19,200
So you know, it's just about
whatever that perception is

1227
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,000
given to.
You are a small child is what

1228
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:25,600
your you think you're seeing,
you know, because I see it too.

1229
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:27,500
Don't get me wrong.
You know, I had a telescope at

1230
01:16:27,500 --> 01:16:30,100
one point I'd be and it wasn't a
good telescope, a little cheap

1231
01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:31,900
bucket telescope.
You could look up and you can

1232
01:16:31,900 --> 01:16:34,400
see stuff and you be like, oh,
you could see the rings around

1233
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,800
Saturn but it's like Is that
rings around a planet?

1234
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,100
Or is that a luminary that just
represents something?

1235
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:44,800
And because of the way that it's
shaped and looked these

1236
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:49,300
astronomers have told us that
that is a, you know, spherical

1237
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:53,000
body with rings around it.
And it's like, who knows nobody

1238
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,500
will ever know the answer that
question just like most of these

1239
01:16:55,500 --> 01:17:03,200
questions I mean it's hard a lot
of smarter people than us have

1240
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:08,200
tried to explain and of failed.
So don't feel bad if you don't,

1241
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:12,900
don't get to a conclusion today.
But I think searching for the

1242
01:17:12,900 --> 01:17:16,100
answers is always the way.
Yeah, for sure.

1243
01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:17,900
But it is super fascinating, I'm
with Ken's.

1244
01:17:17,900 --> 01:17:21,100
Are that's probably like, in my
top three, you know, it's a

1245
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:24,800
super fascinating idea, you
know, even if it's complete

1246
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:28,000
bullshit, just the idea that
there's more Or Lands Beyond the

1247
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:30,600
Antarctic Ice walls and the
extraterrestrials are just

1248
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,500
beings from other lands out
Beyond, you know, we're allowed

1249
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:39,500
to go like that would make a
great like good Sci-Fi.

1250
01:17:39,500 --> 01:17:43,500
Give me some CGI like there's
some there's some deep stuff

1251
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:45,500
there.
I think so too.

1252
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,700
Oh I absolutely think so.
I hope and pray.

1253
01:17:48,700 --> 01:17:53,900
I'm able to make a real sci-fi
movie one day like a real.

1254
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,700
Yeah.
You know make you think kind of

1255
01:17:59,700 --> 01:18:04,700
keep you on the edge of your
seat sci-fi and you know, if I

1256
01:18:04,700 --> 01:18:11,200
don't ever get there so what?
But I hope and I when you guys

1257
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:14,600
watch this movie, I just want
you to know, like, all this

1258
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:19,500
stuff that I'm talking about.
Like this is this is stuff that

1259
01:18:19,500 --> 01:18:24,000
I took years to kind of think
about and formulate and

1260
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:28,500
research.
And find my own opinion.

1261
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:32,400
And the whole thing about
Dreamland, it's simply an

1262
01:18:32,407 --> 01:18:37,500
expression of that.
In just this one area in the

1263
01:18:37,500 --> 01:18:42,800
area of like UFO ology and kind
of touch on religion space and

1264
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:48,300
the government.
So I just, you know, I when I

1265
01:18:48,308 --> 01:18:51,300
say some of these things I just
want to let you know that a lot

1266
01:18:51,300 --> 01:18:53,700
of it to me.
It's like it's about having

1267
01:18:53,700 --> 01:18:57,800
faith in yourself because I
believe we're the gods, I

1268
01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:04,200
believe that we are able to
create and do sometimes magical

1269
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:08,500
things but you have Have to
believe that you have to believe

1270
01:19:08,500 --> 01:19:13,000
on a level that's almost
unexplainable and your faith

1271
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,700
like you were talking about
before is something that I am

1272
01:19:17,700 --> 01:19:23,400
very, you know, I'm a priest of
of and cognizant because having

1273
01:19:23,700 --> 01:19:29,700
a certain level of Faith, like
it takes, it takes a very

1274
01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:33,200
thoughtful person to get there,
you know?

1275
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,700
And Sometimes.
Yes, like there's there's bad on

1276
01:19:37,700 --> 01:19:39,400
everything.
It's the bell curve, you know?

1277
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:45,900
But to have a but to have an
open mind and be able to discuss

1278
01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:54,000
topics and a very in a very
inviting way is something that I

1279
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,100
think is really wonderful.
And you guys have a great

1280
01:19:56,100 --> 01:19:58,700
podcast here.
That's has such a interesting

1281
01:19:58,700 --> 01:20:01,400
combination of individual.
So you guys should be very proud

1282
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,600
of yourself.
This is all about this has been

1283
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,000
really wonderful.
Now, oh, I appreciate that.

1284
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:09,600
We pride ourselves in not being
an echo chamber, we have our own

1285
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,900
ideas.
You know, when ideas I only put

1286
01:20:12,900 --> 01:20:15,500
stuff.
Yeah, well he's convinced me and

1287
01:20:15,500 --> 01:20:18,800
then and then Jeff told me that
all the images of space are fake

1288
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:22,800
and I looked it up and it just
destroyed my my like I had to

1289
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,800
delete all my space pictures off
my desktop.

1290
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,300
I thought I was the coolest
thing, all these galaxies

1291
01:20:26,300 --> 01:20:33,600
pictures all fake CGI.
Yeah exactly it's our best

1292
01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,300
interpretation.
Of the light waves, the

1293
01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:39,900
transition color by numbers is
what?

1294
01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:44,000
Yeah, one is blue because red
it's really funny.

1295
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,200
There's this new, it was
supposed to be this telescope

1296
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,500
technology like five, ten
thousand dollar this telescope

1297
01:20:50,500 --> 01:20:54,500
that you can bring out anywhere
and it's like it connects

1298
01:20:54,500 --> 01:20:58,800
Bluetooth with your phone and
you can like point on the Galaxy

1299
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,800
and it sits there and it
supposedly taking like these

1300
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:08,300
images and I I have this Theory
like that it's simply just a box

1301
01:21:08,300 --> 01:21:11,600
that looks like a telescope and
it's downloading the shit.

1302
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,200
You just sends it to your phone
and it's like here I took this

1303
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,300
photo thing about that is this
there's a guy out there of some

1304
01:21:20,300 --> 01:21:24,100
people may know him crow triple
seven, he is the guy who filmed

1305
01:21:24,100 --> 01:21:26,300
the lunar wave.
He's got one of those super

1306
01:21:26,300 --> 01:21:28,300
nice.
Like the best telescope that

1307
01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:35,000
civilians can buy and he has
time and time again shown Of

1308
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:37,700
things like the moon, having
refresh rate.

1309
01:21:37,700 --> 01:21:41,800
And in the what we call planets
The Luminaries in the skies have

1310
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,500
refresh rates, like, they're
either a hologram or there's

1311
01:21:44,500 --> 01:21:47,200
some kind of something, I don't
know.

1312
01:21:47,500 --> 01:21:51,000
But, yeah, well, I mean, there's
something that I mean, there's

1313
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:54,800
stuff on the moon.
Like, it's, there's stuff on the

1314
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:58,300
moon.
That Chinese Romans crazy.

1315
01:21:58,700 --> 01:22:03,700
There's definitely something
going on up there and all of,

1316
01:22:04,100 --> 01:22:09,400
and all of of the planetary
Story, the moon size shape.

1317
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:12,700
It's, you know, it's usage to
the Earth.

1318
01:22:13,300 --> 01:22:17,000
Youthfulness of the earth is
highly unexplainable.

1319
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:21,200
Like, that's that it's almost
too perfect.

1320
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,700
Like the intelligent design of
it, the way.

1321
01:22:23,700 --> 01:22:26,100
It affects the tides perfect
size.

1322
01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:28,000
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.

1323
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,500
Like, it's very strange, it's
very, very strange.

1324
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:35,400
Simulation broke.
We live in a city And I can

1325
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,700
totally get behind the
simulation Theory.

1326
01:22:37,900 --> 01:22:40,600
My thing with the Moon is I
always see the same side of it

1327
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,800
and I've read up on how the moon
spins around us and blah blah

1328
01:22:43,800 --> 01:22:47,400
blah but I don't buy it.
I don't buy it.

1329
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:52,000
It's doesn't make a whole lot of
sense in my head.

1330
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,000
The only celestial object that
rotates in the direction that it

1331
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,500
rotates, if that's what it is.
Yeah.

1332
01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:06,900
If it's Again, remember science,
as I was talking about before,

1333
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,200
it's not, we're in a time,
that's very scary for

1334
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:17,200
progression of thought, because
real scientists aren't promoted

1335
01:23:17,500 --> 01:23:22,700
for for showing that someone
else was wrong.

1336
01:23:22,900 --> 01:23:26,200
Like, they're usually, you know,
especially in today's society

1337
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,600
and this is kind of always been
the case for when, you know,

1338
01:23:29,900 --> 01:23:32,300
Innovation is made.
Scientists are maligned, and

1339
01:23:32,300 --> 01:23:36,900
they're, and they're called, you
know, Heretics or, you know,

1340
01:23:36,900 --> 01:23:40,700
devil horns or whatever it may
be science.

1341
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,300
Now, has gotten to the point
where it's been so suppressed

1342
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:49,000
because big business funds, it,
and it's all directional

1343
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,000
science.
It's like we want you to study

1344
01:23:51,000 --> 01:23:55,500
this and get this result.
So, especially some of that

1345
01:23:55,500 --> 01:24:00,800
planetary stuff if there's real
science behind it, we're not

1346
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,000
going to hear About it because
the scientists are called quacks

1347
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,600
and they're, you know, they're
laughed out of their Industries

1348
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,900
and you know, people have Judd,
people have jobs to keep and

1349
01:24:11,900 --> 01:24:16,400
families to feed.
And and unfortunately, that's I

1350
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:20,600
don't know how I hate to express
a problem and not have a

1351
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:26,400
solution or at least an idea for
solution, but this one's a

1352
01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:31,100
really tough one because science
is so dependent.

1353
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,900
Pendant on funding and where
does the funding come from

1354
01:24:34,900 --> 01:24:36,800
anymore?
It's like Vanguard opens

1355
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:40,900
everything.
Mmm, you know, it's like you

1356
01:24:40,900 --> 01:24:47,500
can't get away from who funds
the science and that doesn't,

1357
01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:51,200
you know, that's time.
He's Innovation completely like

1358
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,400
it does.
I could people people aren't

1359
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:56,700
going to call out bad science
because they're afraid of what

1360
01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:58,300
it's going to do.
Their career.

1361
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,000
Hey Brian.
I have a quick question for you.

1362
01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:03,800
Round back to your, your movie
real quick.

1363
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,900
I've had this question on my
mind for a minute now.

1364
01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:09,500
I kind of want to get it out
there so you put a tremendous

1365
01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:13,300
amount of work into this project
and you had mentioned how like,

1366
01:25:13,300 --> 01:25:15,400
you know, the news reports
started coming out and then you

1367
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,600
guys got there and then you just
started shooting and you're just

1368
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:25,600
like, let's just go, did you
have an idea of doing something

1369
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:29,700
I do alien or UFO related prior
to this?

1370
01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:31,100
And this was just like the
perfect storm.

1371
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,300
I'm of events where you're just
like fantastic.

1372
01:25:33,300 --> 01:25:36,000
Let's go with it.
Or was it more like I want to do

1373
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,600
a project and I want to figure
out what's the best project for

1374
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,300
me to do.
And then suddenly this popped up

1375
01:25:41,300 --> 01:25:49,500
in your like that'll work.
Well, I'm a very I work on this

1376
01:25:49,500 --> 01:25:55,400
every day and I'm not always as
greater than as I think I am.

1377
01:25:55,400 --> 01:26:00,200
But I try to be very open to the
signs of the universe, you know.

1378
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:04,500
And I'm, I like to be busy.
I like to be working on things

1379
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:10,600
and I knew, I knew I had a
chance to make my own movie.

1380
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:17,400
I just I didn't know exactly
what it was going to be.

1381
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,900
I knew I could do a Curb Your
Enthusiasm cell movie where

1382
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,800
where there was no script I just
if I go right cast together I

1383
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,200
could give them Direction and
beats to hit.

1384
01:26:27,700 --> 01:26:32,600
And they you know, behave how
they're they're, you know, how

1385
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,800
they choose to because you're
going to see some things in this

1386
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,400
film.
I just want you guys to be

1387
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,500
clear.
I did not instruct these people

1388
01:26:38,500 --> 01:26:40,900
to do or say, some of the stuff.
This was all on them.

1389
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,800
That would like I say there
wasn't a script and And some of

1390
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,400
the some of the stuff I had no
idea how I was going to make a

1391
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:50,100
coherent story with it, we're
but it, but it worked out.

1392
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:54,800
So stands your question.
I knew that I could make a film.

1393
01:26:55,700 --> 01:26:58,700
That was running gun, I just
didn't know.

1394
01:26:59,300 --> 01:27:02,000
I didn't know what was going to
be the driving force and the

1395
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,100
area 51 thing.
I was literally at a bar in a

1396
01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:09,800
small town, in Ohio, like a bar
called janki's.

1397
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:15,200
I swear, I swear that was the
name and This guy was sitting

1398
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,100
next to me.
He, you know, I tell him I'm

1399
01:27:17,100 --> 01:27:18,600
comedian.
He looks me up.

1400
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,500
He goes to the bathroom.
Come back.

1401
01:27:20,500 --> 01:27:22,100
You all the sudden.
He's my biggest fan.

1402
01:27:23,700 --> 01:27:26,700
We're talking about like is my
Instagram is Moreno?

1403
01:27:26,700 --> 01:27:29,300
The alien.
So we start talking about alien

1404
01:27:29,300 --> 01:27:33,100
stuff and he's like you should
go to Area 51 and interview

1405
01:27:33,100 --> 01:27:36,400
people.
And I and that was literally the

1406
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,100
seed and you know how some seeds
grow a lot, a lot faster,

1407
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:42,600
yellow, some ideas grow at a
much faster rate than other

1408
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:47,700
units and that one, it just
exploded and that was 24 days

1409
01:27:47,700 --> 01:27:51,100
before the event and 23 is when
I got the idea because I'm like,

1410
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:55,200
should I just hire a film crew
to sit in my backseat and dry?

1411
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,000
And I'm like, that sucks.
Like that's a YouTube, you know?

1412
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,300
Yeah.
A YouTube and I'm like, I it for

1413
01:28:00,300 --> 01:28:03,200
me to make a real movie and I
was told by everyone, you can't

1414
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,100
make a movie this fast
impossible.

1415
01:28:05,700 --> 01:28:09,100
Well, that go that inspired me
even more.

1416
01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:11,700
That's awesome.
Alemany can't do something

1417
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:13,100
because then you'll go and do
it.

1418
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,400
No, that's awesome.
Yeah, that's cool man.

1419
01:28:19,500 --> 01:28:22,700
But yeah, man, probably going to
wrap this up because it's past

1420
01:28:22,700 --> 01:28:24,700
my bedtime.
I'm an old man over here.

1421
01:28:24,700 --> 01:28:28,200
But before we go Brian, if you
want to take a minute and just

1422
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:31,000
plug all your shit real quick.
So everybody knows where to find

1423
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,000
you and all that good.
Well, I'm pretty easy to find.

1424
01:28:34,600 --> 01:28:39,300
Moreno comedian, Moreno.
The alien on all social media

1425
01:28:39,300 --> 01:28:45,100
Mor Eno, but the really great
things to support right now is

1426
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:50,000
dream land area, 51 movie.com.
We have some really great

1427
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:53,200
merchandise on there.
We make some great shirts,

1428
01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:58,500
anything, any any support you
have is is much appreciated, but

1429
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:00,800
keep your eyes out for this
movie.

1430
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:05,200
Follow The Dream Land Area, 51
movie on RAM and helps the

1431
01:29:05,200 --> 01:29:07,700
algorithm.
And that's what I try to post.

1432
01:29:07,700 --> 01:29:11,800
All my alien stuff, or whatever.
Was on that Instagram or or you

1433
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:16,700
know, whatever it may be, I who
I say alien, but I don't even

1434
01:29:16,700 --> 01:29:22,400
know what that is.
Well, that was that was awesome.

1435
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:27,100
You know, we, we had a curveball
thrown at us today and cheese

1436
01:29:27,100 --> 01:29:29,500
Jeff's.
Slammed it right out of the

1437
01:29:29,500 --> 01:29:32,600
park.
Ryan, what an interview, thank

1438
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:33,800
you so much.
Ha ha.

1439
01:29:34,500 --> 01:29:36,200
You guys, this was a generally
meant.

1440
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:37,900
What I said, you guys have a
great Dynamic.

1441
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,400
You all are have a very
interesting take on things.

1442
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:46,700
And I think I thank your
listeners and I think they, they

1443
01:29:46,700 --> 01:29:49,400
really have a great.
You guys have a great podcast

1444
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:53,100
here and they probably get very
enlightened through all of you

1445
01:29:53,100 --> 01:29:55,500
and that is, you know, that's
beautiful work that you're doing

1446
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:57,100
well.
Thank you very much.

1447
01:29:57,500 --> 01:30:02,400
Will do anyways.
Well, I guess I got to close it

1448
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:04,300
out since I opened it up, huh?
Yeah.

1449
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:05,200
Yep.
You got.

1450
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:11,200
You have to get a der.
Okay, well thanks everybody for

1451
01:30:11,300 --> 01:30:15,000
listening to this.
Awesome episode of infinite

1452
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,900
Rabbit Hole.
Thanks again to Brian, thanks

1453
01:30:17,900 --> 01:30:20,400
again to Jeremy.
Jake and Ken's are for joining

1454
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:26,400
me on my show.
It's Jeremy loves that joke.

1455
01:30:27,700 --> 01:30:29,600
Now, it's been fun.
It's been real.

1456
01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:32,000
The next topic.
Should I give him the next

1457
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:34,100
topic?
Do we have the next topic?

1458
01:30:34,500 --> 01:30:38,200
I mean am I doing my thing next
weekend or next week you are you

1459
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,500
are tasting next week.
Next week we touched on it a

1460
01:30:41,508 --> 01:30:44,800
little bit here, I'm doing
Dinosaurs never existed.

1461
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:49,000
Episode dinosaurs are fake.
So keep an eye out for that.

1462
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:52,000
I've got plenty of it to go
around.

1463
01:30:52,100 --> 01:30:56,000
I might be bringing on a guest
who's an quote-unquote expert in

1464
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:58,300
this topic?
Still to be.

1465
01:30:58,300 --> 01:31:00,100
Determined you going to bring on
Brian to?

1466
01:31:00,700 --> 01:31:08,900
Yeah, we're gonna fight, I might
have some counter points.

1467
01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:12,400
That's cool man.
Yeah everybody make sure you

1468
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:15,900
check out Brian on all this
socials, make sure you follow

1469
01:31:15,900 --> 01:31:20,100
the area 51, storming Area, 51,
Dreamland film.

1470
01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:25,800
When it drops, that's it,
anything else, right, buddy.

1471
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,700
Nope, that's pretty much it.
Thank you for joining us on this

1472
01:31:28,700 --> 01:31:30,500
path of the infinite rabbit
hole.

1473
01:31:30,900 --> 01:31:32,800
We will see you next week.
Bye.

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